HULK SMASH!!!
Amen. He is a criminal, and he has admitted that he broke the law.
This is the litmus test for Republicans, right there. "Do you support a president that openly mocks the law? Yes, or not." If they do, their feet should be held to the fire at every chance.
wiretapped!@
I am loving Russ Feingold. Way to go!!
Fuck Bush!
When the President made his admission, the Republican Party can no longer call itself the party of "law and order" anymore.
The law is for little people.
If you're an American you must be guilty of something, right? The question is what?
I can't blame Bush for ordering secret spying. He simply is trying to find out who stole his stash.
How about next election, somebody ask the candidates some simple questions about the Bill of Rights - nothing hard, just say, what rights are protected under the 4th amendment?
Now this is frightening:
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
I didn't know 'terrists' read Mao Tse-Tung.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/d...05/
a09lo650.htm
"A policeman's job is only easy in a police state."
- Charlton Heston to Orson Welles, "Touch of Evil"
Pity he didn't do it after he had that memo saying Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US.
But of course, he was never interested in going after his Saudi friends, only American Liberals.
l'etate c'est mois
-louis XIV
The president is a criminal
As if the denials of due process and the right to an attorney to American citizens wasn't unconstitutional.
Martin Garbus at HuffPo:
Today, for two separate reasons, has been an incredible day in America. First, the United States has legitimized torture and secondly, the President has admitted to an impeachable offense.
First, the media has been totally misled on the alleged Bush-McCain agreement on torture. McCain capitulated. It is not a defeat for Bush. It is a win for Cheney.
Torture is not banned or in any way impeded.
Under the compromise, anyone charged with torture can defend himself if a "reasonable" person could have concluded they were following a lawful order.
That defense "loophole" totally corrodes the ban. It is the CIA, or the torturing agency, who will decide what a "reasonable" person could have concluded. Can you imagine those agencies in the interrogation business torturing on their own in trying to decide what is reasonable or what is not? What is not "reasonable" if the interrogator (wrongfully or rightfully) believes he has a ticking-bomb situation? Will a CIA or military officer issue a narrow order if he knows his interrogator believes, in this case, torture will work?
The Bush-McCain torture compromise legitimizes torture. It is the first time that has happened in this country. Not in the two World Wars, Korea, the Cold War or Vietnam did the government ever seek or get the power this bill gives them.
The worst part of it is that most of the media missed it and got it wrong.
Secondly, the President in authorizing surveillance without seeking a court order has committed a crime. The Federal Communications Act criminalizes surveillance without a warrant. It is an impeachable offense. This was also totally missed by the media.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
ma...er_b_12392.html
The President does not get to pick and choose which laws he wants to follow.
Give 'em the chair!
Impeach. Convict. Hand Over to the Hague.
"Do you support a president that openly mocks the law? Yes, or not."
They'll say 'Yes'.
And if their favorite team's star player was busted for steroids, the first thing they'd do is check out the perp's ERA or QB rating or shooting percentage.
Any ERA under 3.00, any QB rating over 100, any FGA over 50% and they're going to give you the stupid look and say 'So?'
Trick #7: "If you're caught red-handed, admit openly what you've done but claim that it doesn't matter."
-it's for your benefit
-someday you'll understand
-let's look forward not back (unless it's a Democratic President who got a blow job and 15 years earlier was screwed out of $100,000 dollars from your buddies in a land deal.)
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Like shrub said, "that is the thing, I am the pResident I don't have to answer anybody's questions."
At least that is what he believes. When you get to be res.. you are above the law.
In fact like his pal Delay says, "i am the law."
It's kind of a reverse Nixon moment. Your president IS a crook, and he's willing to admit it, and he doesn't think we can do anything about it.
I have a pitchfork.
"bages we don't need no stinking badges"
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
The only book he should have been reading is the bible.
Freedom.
Smell it.
Apparently, Iraqis voting partly out of a hope that the occupiers will leave soon afterward is supposed to justify this--at least, that's what I gather from the nationalists and Bush-worshippers. Freedom is not just being able to choose a ruler, though I'm starting to get the feeling this is the definition promoted by warhawks. Anything is justifiable, as long as you can say someone was able to cast a ballot afterward. As someone who doesn't view voting once every few years as the be-all and end-all of freedom, I find this not just patronizing, but repulsive. Freedom does not begin or end at the ballot box.
On another note... anyone know there are elections ongoing in the Palestinian territories? Anyone know there are parliamentary elections next month? Anyone hear that the House passed a resolution threatening to cut off aid to the PA unless they ban Hamas from running?
l'etate c'est mois
-louis XIV
The Disorderly Orderly
-GWB
And now, Republican trolls everywhere will gather around, hold hands, grab their Bibles and being a rousing rendition of "God Save The King".
And, I know how to use it.
Usually when the perp admits committing the crime as Bushboy has, they are then offered some kind of prison "deal."
I would settle for Bushboy (& Cheneychins) resigning from office and leaving the country.
They could be exiled in Iraq or Saudi Arabia (where most of their money has come from).
Why does Feingold hate America so much?
Bush was a criminal long before this...he stole the 2000 election, remember?
When will this long nightmare be over?
i am henry the eight iam
Thanks for the tune, dave! I didn't have it, believe it or not, though someone played it for me once many years ago.
My prediction: This will be the straw that breaks the elephant's back. Maybe not right away, and not until we have a preponderance of wailing and gnashing of teeth, but eventually - Bush will fall.
I didn't know 'terrists' read Mao Tse-Tung.
um
Actually, the Tamil Tigers, the very first group to use suicide bombing exclusively many years ago, are not Muslims, but Maoists.
He should have to bed Coulter for this one.
I'm damned proud of my future ex-husband, Russ Feingold. He walks his talk.
Any ERA under 3.00, any QB rating over 100, any FGA over 50% and they're going to give you the stupid look and say 'So?'
Yeah, but Bush's ERA is at a good 7.00+, he's shooting bricks from the free throw line, and his name in the NFL is "Mr. Immobility."
I think it's time to sack the quarterback.
This is one of those historical moments where the left could really help topple a president. But to do that the left would have to be unified and focused, and that's not going to happen. Within a matter of days the left will have lumped this in with the war in Iraq, gay marriage, FOX News, the WTO, and everything else, effectively making it impossible for anyone in the middle or on the right to link hands.
Bush has broken the law and breached the Constitution. That's the ONLY message that the left should be pushing. If the left does that, Bush may just be ground under the wheels of our democracy - which would be truly fitting.
Clip of Feingold on the House floor yesterday...
http://dissent.blogspot.com/
#113...483857981597483
CNN has the speech transcript here.
And for illustrative purposes only.
"Do you support a president that openly mocks the law? Yes, or not."
They'll say 'Yes'.
Cuz, ya see, he ain't lettin' them thar queers git hitched.
maybe this is how they get the goods on dems...will we ever really no?
Can we trust the preznut if he says he would never spy on the opposition party?
Didn't think so.
_
Let's see how long it takes the Democratic party to stifle him as they did dean and Murtha on Iraq.
I'm more of a true marxist
(groucho)
i am henry the eight iam
olexicon, arbitrary carp
How's my tuuked partner in socialism?
Is Russ Feingold not a beckon for the truth, or what?
Bush was a criminal long before this...he stole the 2000 election, remember?
There is no statute of limitations in the Uniform Military Code under charges of "desertion under apprehension".
BTW AWOL becomes desertion after 30 days.
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"As a result, our enemies have learned information they should not have," he said. "The unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk."
Anyone who doesn't like that asshole is the enemy, so far as he and his fellaters are concerned.
I think all these press appearences by the Res have more to do with his being exposed as the traitors liar that he is than anything else.
Feingold for President
So, Vicki, you'll be a Steingold-Feingold?
Snappy.
Even better:
First Lady Steingold-Finegold
Jack Anderson is dead.
Refresh my memory - wasn't there an advertising campaign a few years back where a man was arrested for taking out a library book... and it was a warning about what would happen if the terrorists won?
Does anyone else remember these ads, or am I crazy?
Is Russ Feingold not a beckon for the truth, or what?
Vicki Steingold, NMU, '82 |
well now i await the swiftoboating
and calling him a traitor
thats what happens to patriots
9/11 changed everything™.
He said it like 8 times in his radio address.
And you know the wingnuttia is going to concur.
Bush has broken the law and breached the Constitution. That's the ONLY message that the left should be pushing. If the left does that, Bush may just be ground under the wheels of our democracy - which would be truly fitting.
Amen. This is the point that should never be let up. It was the point that they hammered Clinton on "he broke the law!" "it's not about a blowjob, he broke the law!!"
Now, Bush has broken the law. If Republicans want to apologize for the president, let them.
Just make sure their apologies are on record.
Can we trust the preznut if he says he would never spy on the opposition party?
No. His cronies have already said critics of the President empower the terrorists. Sounds like a conspiracy of treason.
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Jack Anderson is dead.
Hecate Malificent
long live jack anderson
I'm sending Feingold a check today.
This better come up with f*(&%*%ing ScAlito, too. We all get lost in abortion and forget that Bush is nominating people to the courts who hold the notions of separation of powers and checks and balances in contempt (and before anyone feels compelled to stick up for Roe v Wade because I mentioned teh A word, I say on demand and without apology.)
Did anyone hear someone talking about Bush taking us back to pre-Magna Carta England? Was that Feingold, too?
If articles of impeachment are not introduced in the House on Monday, then the US, like Rome before it, has crossed its Rubicon. When Caesar led his legions out of his province to Rome (the Rubicon was the border river), the Republic died. Now our country faces its Rubicon. May God have mercy on all of us if we do nothing.
First, the media has been totally misled on the alleged Bush-McCain agreement on torture. McCain capitulated
Of course, McCain capitulated.
McCain has no fucking balls.
Wasn't it the Magna Carta that first suggested kings were subject to law? That they couldn't do just anything they wanted?
We need another one of those...
It's kind of a reverse Nixon moment. Your president IS a crook, and he's willing to admit it, and he doesn't think we can do anything about it.
I have a pitchfork.
I do to. 
It's very, very sharp.
This is one of those historical moments where the left could really help topple a president. But to do that the left would have to be unified and focused, and that's not going to happen. Within a matter of days the left will have lumped this in with the war in Iraq, gay marriage, FOX News, the WTO, and everything else, effectively making it impossible for anyone in the middle or on the right to link hands.
Bush has broken the law and breached the Constitution. That's the ONLY message that the left should be pushing. If the left does that, Bush may just be ground under the wheels of our democracy - which would be truly fitting.
Fugitive
Sorry here but the "left" is unified.
The so called opposition party the DEMOCRATS are being obstructionists.
Cynthis McKinney went after Bush and no one in the party supported her. Murtha and Dean talked about Iraq and Emmanuel shut them up.
Hillary can only tell Cheney to visit Iraq.
Levin supports Torture.
Many of the Dems supported that bill to limit "anit-american" teachers at the college level.
I could list more but my stomach is turning.
hey charlotte
Moe Syzlack and i have been throwing around the idea of
EH-schaton
the Canadian equiveilnat
would you be a willing bloggette?
It has come to my attention that some of you have been referring to today as Saturday, as part of your war on Saturn'sday. I'm going to feel persecuted if everyone does not mention my religion every time they say the name of the day. It's Saturn'sday damnit. Worship Saturn!
It's time for the Democrats in Congress to start saying "impeachment."
Yes, I know we're the minority party, but we should be calling for impeachment ever day. I thought no one was above the law in this country.
What did Scottie say about this yesterday in response to questioning?
It was the point that they hammered Clinton on "he broke the law!" "it's not about a blowjob, he broke the law!!"
How do you break the law by getting a blowjob?
I know these asshole Repugs would like to make all non-babymaking sex illegal, but I don't get this.
I'm sure over at Little Green Snotballs the big story is another serious leak jeopardizing our safety and our troops.
.
It's Saturn'sday damnit. Worship Saturn!
Hecate Malificent
the god of war
the republicans already do
Happy Saturn's Day, Hecate! Best Wishes from Jen, High Priestess of Selune!
The Neocon repukes will never allow articles of impeachment to reach the floor. no matter how valid they are. the crooks are in charge. we gotta vote them out to start the impeachment
the king is an idiot and his court a pack of self-serving thieves and now i fear that the queen has gone mad?
God, I can't believe this is happening in my lifetime.
But I digress. Why did Bush's handlers have him say this? You know he never writes his own stuff -- he just stumbles over words someone else thought up and wrote down. Do you think that, since nothing else seems to be working, this is Rove desperately trying to change the subject from Fitz and the pending indictment?
What did Scottie say about this yesterday in response to questioning?
Gimlet
"next question"
Every day that Bush walks free is a bad day for America and the rule of law. He needs to be tried for his crimes and locked up. I would say he should be forced to watch movies of all the death and destruction he has caused, but he might enjoy that.
BTW, have you voted in the Kippies yet?
It's hard! So many worthy recipients...
It has come to my attention that some of you have been referring to today as Saturday, as part of your war on Saturn'sday. I'm going to feel persecuted if everyone does not mention my religion every time they say the name of the day. It's Saturn'sday damnit. Worship Saturn!
Hecate Malificent
OMG.
A known witch is posting here.
Where's that sanctimonious bee-yotch "Marge"???????
Once again Bush has handed us a gift on a silver platter-- he has hand-delivered the rope with which he should be hung. Will the Dems do anything about it?
Cue Joementum and MBNA Joe saying why "eavesdropping" and trashing the constitution are necessary.
I believe that this nation sits at a crossroads. One direction points to the higher road of the rule of law. Sometimes hard, sometimes unpleasant, this path relies on truth, justice and the rigorous application of the principle that no man is above the law.
Now, the other road is the path of least resistance. This is where we start making exceptions to our laws based on poll numbers and spin control. This is when we pitch the law completely overboard when the mood fits us, when we ignore the facts in order to cover up the truth.
Shall we follow the rule of law and do our constitutional duty no matter unpleasant, or shall we follow the path of least resistance, close our eyes to the potential lawbreaking, forgive and forget, move on and tear an unfixable hole in our legal system? No man is above the law, and no man is below the law. That's the principle that we all hold very dear in this country.
--Tom DeLay, October 9, 1998, on the impeachment of President Clinton.
Thanks for the tune...
I was surprised you didn't recognize the name... it's one of my all-time favorite Xmas tunes!
Happy Saturnalia!!!
Magna Carta's just a piece of paper.
"As a result, our enemies have learned information they should not have," he said. "The unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk."
What does this even fucking mean?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I know, absolutely nothing. I'm just really fucking pissed off and frustrated today.
I remember after 9/11 Falafel Bill was saying that he would never submit to any fascistic attempts to keep him from flying without a laptop--this and the end of curbside check-in were high on his list of essential civil liberties. He did not want Terrorists to win the victory of preventing him from publishing any more of his autobiographical softpore cornography. The establishment of a secret Star Chamber, of couse, will not bother him.
I'm going to go play in the snow and pretend he's not our only preznut (I like that one, whoever thought of it).
I would say he should be forced to watch movies of all the death and destruction he has caused, but he might enjoy that.
Mark B.
He'd ask for popcorn.
Cue Joementum and MBNA Joe saying why "eavesdropping" and trashing the constitution are necessary.
JK47
not saying "whining"
The Neocon repukes will never allow articles of impeachment to reach the floor. no matter how valid they are. the crooks are in charge. we gotta vote them out to start the impeachment
pigboy | 12.17.05 - 3:01 pm | #
We might not have the numbers for impeachement, but we must make the attempt.
When people ask why the Democrats are trying to do this, the answer is, "The President commited a felony. He broke the law. He authorized illegal wiretaps."
And any Republican who votes "no" should be asked, repeatedly and persistently, why he supports a lawbreaking president.
This is a pivotal moment in our history. Bush is playing a game of constitutional brinksmanship. In his speech this morning he threw down the gauntlet.
I’m watching to see what the press and other mediums are going to do with this. Maybe, for once, they can forget the “Happy Holiday’s” fluff and lost blondes and report what is going on. If they keep at it they may light a fire under Congress’ butt.
We also have a job to do. We need to contact members of the House and Senate and tell them we don’t want a King. Incurious George needs to be impeached. Now, before it’s too late (if it isn’t already).
Wake up Sheeple!!!
OT - I posted this below where I figured after 500 posts it wouldn't be rude to go off topic. But of course, it killed the thread. Sorry, but this is too good not to share.
Ya gotta love Alan Hevesi, Comptroller of NY. He just may have helped Ford change its mind about advertising in the gay press.
Remember, he was the first to talk to Sinclair about airing the Swift Boat Liars hit piece and helped convince them to show a more balanced piece.
I took two classes with him at Queens College. Ladies, in a very Fitzy way, he is teh hot.
This is the way progressive dems should be behaving. We do have a lot of power. We should flex our muscles every now and again.
freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose
Let them keep trotting out the Chimp. Every time he speaks -- mutters, mumbles, stutters, twitches, fumbles -- he loses people.
My contribution to the War on Christmas -- a technogeek with way too much time on his hands:
http://members.cox.net/transam57...am57/
lights.wmv
http://www.msftlabrat.com/funstu...tuff/
jingle.wmv
I would say he should be forced to watch movies of all the death and destruction he has caused, but he might enjoy that.
He should probably be forced to watch Brokeback Mountain, though.
King George- the pro-torture ,secret prisons , spy-on-americans,law breaking president.
I want to know how spying got to be "eavesdropping."
How do you break the law by getting a blowjob?
He lied under oath while being asked about marital infidelity initiated by a sexual harassment suit that was thrown out of court for lack of merit funded by wealthy Republicans and spending $50 million dollars of taxpayers money to find out he got screwed out of some money by his friends in a bad land deal.
See it's simple. Impeachment was the only way to save the Nation.
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God, I can't believe this is happening in my lifetime.
I thought we'd dispensed with this kind of bullshit when we sent Nixon packing.
the same way global warming became climate change
We are here today because [the President] decided to put himself above the law - not once, not twice but repeatedly.
For these actions he must be held accountable to the only constitutional means the country has available: the difficult and painful process of impeachment.
--Rep. James Sensenbrenner, January 14, 1999, on the impeachment of President Clinton.
--Tom DeLay, October 9, 1998, on the impeachment of President Clinton.
Dr. Wu | 12.17.05 - 3:03 pm | #
Those words should be mailed to every member of Congress in the United States.
What did Scottie say about this yesterday in response to questioning?
Gimlet - 3:00 pm
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He should probably be forced to watch Brokeback Mountain, though.
I suspect he might enjoy that, too.
He should be forced to watch the tape of Nixon resigning, over and over.
See it's simple. Impeachment was the only way to save the Nation.
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Agent Orange
Thanks.
It's still stupid!
And I hope Ken Starr dies a slow, painful death for his part in it!
I would say he should be forced to watch movies of all the death and destruction he has caused, but he might enjoy that.
The way German civilians were forced to handle the cadavers of concentration camp victims after the camps were liberated.
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History not learned we're condemed to repeat it or "fool me once ..."
I thought we'd dispensed with this kind of bullshit when we sent Nixon packing.
Terry C, Sublime Bush Hater | 12.17.05 - 3:05 pm | #
Nixon and his gang only WISHED
they could have seized as much power
as these thugs have....
Terry C
You're right: McCain is a eunuch, so is Powell. McCain pathetically thinks Grover Norquist will let him be president, Powell is just pathetic.
I can't wait to hear Lieberman defend this one, in a slow down for the car accident kind of way.
Okay, now I'm really out of here.
Nixon did his best to hide his high crimes and misdemeanors -- Bush proclaims them proudly to the world!
Holy toledo.
I broke the law, SO WHAT !!
so tonite he announces from the oval office that the mining of boston harbor has begun
Dude, it's McCain's JOB to capitulate. Everyone GoOPer has their marching orders. Cryin' John's role is to throw sand in the eyes of the media--he directly said that he won his points, while in fact approving language which did the opposite. His mistake? Uh, no. His job.
Bush makes nixon look like US Grant
Ya gotta love Alan Hevesi, Comptroller of NY. He just may have helped Ford change its mind about advertising in the gay press.
Ford MAY have been influenced by the money they were going to lose.
And Donald Wildmon needs to get a fucking life!
NYMary --
I read the Lowe interview -- it makes me feel old
Also saw your teen -- a very pretty young lady whose poise comes through even in the photos
Feingold keeps hitting them out of the park -- I remember when it was "hopeless" to vote against the "Patriot Act" (who comes up with these up-side-down names?) -- only one person did it -- now he leads the filibuster
A lot of legislative politics is self-fullfilling prophecy
(Hi Vicki! Jen!)
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT I HAVE A LIST!
I suspect he might enjoy that, too.
There was some rumor making the rounds yesterday that they got it for the White House screening room and got into the film before someone figured out what it was about. Reportedly, they had to make some excuse to George for ending the film abruptly 20 minute in.
I'm feeling way too much like WGG these days. Even impeachment and conviction would only mean fascism delayed when you have "men" like Biden & Leiberman sucking the corporate cock and looking up worshipfully to say, "Thank you, sir, may I have another?"
Sometimes I think America actually needs a civil war. All the jokes last year about certain states joining Canada, and the rest becoming the United States of Jebusland? Something like that.
On the plus side: Mrs. Gummo got a job! Woo-hoo!
Thanks, Prior A! And I believe this use of language is, by definition, Orwellian.
Dude, it's McCain's JOB to capitulate. Everyone GoOPer has their marching orders. Cryin' John's role is to throw sand in the eyes of the media--he directly said that he won his points, while in fact approving language which did the opposite. His mistake? Uh, no. His job.
Radio Head
McCain's reputation and family were trashed by those bastards in 2000 and he hasn't stopped bending over and spreading them for Bush & Co since.
Gutless fuck!
b-b-but AssRocket said that his argument was 'crushingly effective'. And he's a lawyer, isn't he?
Btw, any practising lawyer who appears on cablenews today to defend this deserves to have a complaint issued to his/her bar, and to be struck off.
More owls, BTW.
I know these asshole Repugs would like to make all non-babymaking sex illegal, but I don't get this.
Terry C,
He lied about it at a deposition.
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT I HAVE A LIST!
GWBUSH
Ya know WHERE you can PUT that list, don't cha?
This is one of those historical moments where the left could really help topple a president.
A little help from a free press would be nice.
If every time the MSM uses the term "critics of the president" then cough, hack, spit when refering to "the left" how will the swing voters ever understand?
He lied about it at a deposition.
ql in ny
I see.
And Repugs NEVER lie.
Those people make me sick!
Jack Anderson, the Pulitzer Prize-winning muckraking columnist who struck fear into the hearts of corrupt or secretive politicians, inspiring Nixon operatives to plot his murder, died Saturday. He was 83.
Anderson died at his home in Bethesda, Md., of complications from Parkinson's disease, said one of his daughters, Laurie Anderson-Bruch.
That's a euphemism. We know what killed him.
"The unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk."
Gee, I thought Tipsy and Co. couldn't comment on l'affaire Plame because it was an "ongoing investigation"...
We might not have the numbers for impeachement, but we must make the attempt.
When people ask why the Democrats are trying to do this, the answer is, "The President commited a felony. He broke the law. He authorized illegal wiretaps."
And any Republican who votes "no" should be asked, repeatedly and persistently, why he supports a lawbreaking president.
Black Adam | 12.17.05 - 3:04 pm | #
You know, I agree. Democrats need to act as if they are in power and really take it to the Repukes. The Repukes may think this is their one party system. We Democrats need to let them know otherwise.
Besides the important thing in doing this is that we citizens will see they are willing to fight for us and the repukes are the ones doing the stonewalling.
I hate, hate, HATE these recruiting commercials!
Is there any way for the Dems to put something to be put out there that the Repukes HAVE to vote on -- how can we get Repukes on record as supported the overthrow of the Constitution? Will that be enough to influence voters who normally pull the elephant lever? Will they just decide that if the Repukes are ready to jetison the Constitution, it must be the right time?
Cue Joementum and MBNA Joe saying why "eavesdropping" and trashing the constitution are necessary.
Biden will do his red-faced thing.
Joementum? I think Bush is basically setting him a test to see how far he's prepared to debase himself.
I have watched on CSPAN, Democrats attempt to bring up buisness and before the Democratic Rep can finish saying his name the Repuke running the show slams down the gavel and crys out, "the gentalmans time has expired"
OK --
I see I'm channeling Black Adam & pigboy (not that's there's anything wrong with that)
What channel are we on?
The phrase "rule of law" is no pious aspiration from a civics textbook. The rule of law is what stands between all of us and the arbitrary exercise of power by the state. The rule of law is the safeguard of our liberties. The rule of law is what allows us to live our freedom in ways that honor the freedom of others, while strengthening the common good.
The rule of law is like a three-legged stool. One leg is an honest judge, the second leg is an ethical bar, and the third is an enforceable oath. All three are indispensable to avoid political collapse.
[...]
We cannot have one law for the ruler and another law for the ruled. This was once broadly understood in our land. If that understanding is lost or if it becomes seriously eroded, the American democratic experiment and the freedom it guarantees is in jeopardy. That and not the fate of one man, or one political party, or one electoral cycle is what we’re being asked to vote on today.
--Rep. Henry Hyde, December 18, 1998, on the impeachment of President Clinton
The phrase "rule of law" is no pious aspiration from a civics textbook. The rule of law is what stands between all of us and the arbitrary exercise of power by the state. The rule of law is the safeguard of our liberties. The rule of law is what allows us to live our freedom in ways that honor the freedom of others, while strengthening the common good.
The rule of law is like a three-legged stool. One leg is an honest judge, the second leg is an ethical bar, and the third is an enforceable oath. All three are indispensable to avoid political collapse.
[...]
We cannot have one law for the ruler and another law for the ruled. This was once broadly understood in our land. If that understanding is lost or if it becomes seriously eroded, the American democratic experiment and the freedom it guarantees is in jeopardy. That and not the fate of one man, or one political party, or one electoral cycle is what we’re being asked to vote on today.
--Rep. Henry Hyde, December 18, 1998, on the impeachment of President Clinton
and one thing I want to know...Bush said those that were wiretapped had "a clear link" to al Queda. First of course, if there was a clear link...why didn't he just get FISA court order? Secondly, if there is a clear-cut connection to al Queda...why are these people not arrested now?
show us all the people we now have in custody for being clearly connected to al Queda!
what is the return on the investment of our civil liberties?
Where is Henry when we need him? Or better yet, good old Henry should have prefixed his statement with 'democrat' because the standard he endorsed back then sure does not include republicans
Saw a bumpersticker the other day:
AMERICA: SHE WAS A HELLUVA COUNTRY, WASN'T SHE"
and one thing I want to know...Bush said those that were wiretapped had "a clear link" to al Queda. First of course, if there was a clear link...why didn't he just get FISA court order? Secondly, if there is a clear-cut connection to al Queda...why are these people not arrested now?
show us all the people we now have in custody for being clearly connected to al Queda!
what is the return on the investment of our civil liberties?
sj | 12.17.05 - 3:19 pm | #
Excellent points. Fisa was set up for these situations.
First of course, if there was a clear link...why didn't he just get FISA court order?
Because breaking the law and getting away with it is what gets them hard.
Rep. Henry Hyde, December 18, 1998, on the impeachment of President Clinton
The philanderer who called HIS affair a "youthful discretion"...
even though he was 42 when it took place.
Fat fuck of a hypocrite.
If the President has the power and authority (supposedly through the power he bestowed on himself when he started a war)to do this....what stops him from calling off an election in the name of "national security"?
I loathe Henry Hyde.
I loathed Henry Hyde long before the Clinton impeachment.
Hyde is responsible for denying federal funding to poor women who cannot afford an abortion (i.e., "Hyde Amendment")
We knew five years ago how stupid this Monkey is.
Now the country is beginning to see it - finally.
All it takes is one member of the House to make a motion and another to second it. Can they be ruled out of order? Sure. But they'll get wall-to-wall media coverage for 48 hours. Remember Harry Reid forcing a closed Senate session three weeks ago. Uh, Harry! Time for another! And how about Murtha, causing an almost instantaneous House vote which, though contrived, again led to wall-to-wall coverage and several Republican defections. Oh, Jack! Mark Dayton voted against the Iraq authorization and is retiring. Yoo-hoo, Mark! Cynthia McKinney will say anything. You go, Girl. Why be in Congress if you can't recognize your moment when it comes?
As long as monkeyboy is arrogant enough to think he can pull off a TV interview in the US we have a chance. When the idiot is on TV he exposes his ineptness, stubborness and stupidity everytime.
Russ Feingold is a great guy and will be the best democratic nominee for 2008. And he has arleady proven that he can beat, at least, Bush.
Seriously, I am wondering if he didnt just have the meltdown? Did he just commit Sepulku right before our eyes because he really is tired of playing President now?
pigboy -- Haloscum ate my response -- "The Impeachment Channel"
Bush has broken the law and breached the Constitution.
And we've go his confession on tape for what it's worth.
Radio Head --
I like the way you think!
SHEETS ABOVE!
pigboy -- Haloscum ate my response -- "The Impeachment Channel"
Prior Aelred
Now that is a great channel. It may have some reruns on it. But there is a new show in development right now. A whole new cast and everything. 
Seriously, I am wondering if he didnt just have the meltdown?
Nope. We're outvoted.
One man with God is a majority.
We may have a chance. Shrub is attempting to think on his own. After all he is the "leader" of the free world and he can do whatever he wants. We just need to "get it" and all will be well. So the more shrub attempts to make us "get it" the better off we will be. Because everyone will see that he is the mad one not the nation.
(December 17, 2005 -- 12:40 PM EST // link)
Another specious argument.
In his radio address today, discussing the NSA domestic wiretapping, the president said ...
The existence of this secret program was revealed in media reports after being improperly provided to news organizations. As a result, our enemies have learned information they should not have, and the unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk.
How can this be true?
If I'm understanding this correctly, this program allowed the president to conduct warrantless wiretaps in cases where he could have conducted the same wiretaps with warrants by seeking a warrant from the FISA Court. If the wiretaps were against the "international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations" then the FISA Court certainly would have issued the warrants.
So it's the same difference.
-- Josh Marshall
I like the way that boy Josh Marshall thinks..
Of course the MSM is concerned with what will happen to their access if they pursue this, not to mention everyone on board knows that they may have been/probably were being monitored, because with the Rovians it's all about media manipulation--with hundreds of millions committed to civilian and military propaganda there's a ton of PR talent now trained to smear opponents. Corporate media are scared, so they'll be running polls to try to figure out if it's important enough to offset the Swiftboating of everyone who tries to dig into it.
It's important that all media, local and national, are flooded with outraged emails and calls--especially those weekly tabloids and "shoppers" in the suburbs where the country club set is totally disgusted with the pack of goobers currently ruining the good name of Republicanism. Rally your troops, and be sure to email the DNC to call on Dean to do the same. I'll be making at least 40 contacts this weekend to activate volunteers on my MoveOn and precinct organizing lists.
Use your holiday card list and get busy saving America.
Nothing more appropo than Bush singing "My United States of Whatever".
sj--
Absolutely -- it is not that hard to get a warrant (especially after that have packed the courts with wingers, for cryin' out loud!)
He is basically saying "Yea I coulda gotten court orders...but I didn't have to...screw your civil liberties..I am G. W. Bush!
um - thank you for that link - as a college librarian myself, I just passed it along to my colleagues...
Avestus?
http://www.internetweekly.org/im...ages/
fester.jpg
If we replace the word "torture", for this new situation, we will not need the hole argument again. Same thing.
"Magna Carta is just a piece of paper."
Thats GOD DAMN piece of paper to you moonbat!
I am the LAW!!
G.W.B
President Bush has stated that this program is critical to American security and must go on. How can ordinary citizens defend themselves against such surveillance?
That son of a bitch has been a criminal for a very long time.
His fellow fascists have done nothing about his previous crimes, and they're not going to do anything about these either.
President Bush has stated that this program is critical to American security and must go on. How can ordinary citizens defend themselves against such surveillance?
Anonymous
See my post above,moonbat!
G.W.B.
We don't kill enemies of the state!
We torture them 'till they agree with us.
Then we kill 'em.
I'm rubbin' this shit in your moonbat face.
I'll do what I want,and what Unka Dick tells me!
You can't stop us,you can't stop us
Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa!
G.W.B.
Impeach Bush.
Who's this Fiengold puke?
When's he flyin' somewhere in a small plane?
Heh,heh heh.
G.W.B.
Regardless of what you people think we frozen ice-smurfs are capable of, Parliament Hill in Ottawa would be a smoldering ruin by now if our Prime Minister had done anything like this.
Russ Feingold is, and has been, the man.
BTW, the US Code article 18 cite should be paragraph 2511 not 2518.
Thanks!
Regardless of what you people think we frozen ice-smurfs are capable of, Parliament Hill in Ottawa would be a smoldering ruin by now if our Prime Minister had done anything like this.
Canada
We love the Lefty movement in Canamerika!
But we blame you for Frozen Rain.
Kills hundreds of us every year!
G.W.B.
"You're damn right I ordered the Code Red!!!"
Works for me.
On the other hand, somehow I'm rather glad I didn't call the PRO in Kew the other day and discuss my qualifications as a specialist in military intelligence history in the Middle East. At least not from my home phone.
If there isn't a call for impeachment in the house within the next week, then we will find ourselves in a police state. It is your responsibility to take a break in buying chinese goods for your family and friends, and invest some time in a country that is tumbling into a darkness. The evil comes from Bush, and that should be clear by now. What the democrats should do, is scream bloody murder, and get the thugs in power out of washington. Go to senate.gov, find your senator, and say " I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it any Longer!!"
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The truth? You moonbat fucks can't handle the truth!!
G.W.B.
Sheer, idle curiosity - is there any chance at all that Shrub understands that what he's just confessed to is illegal, -even if he did it-?
Sheer, idle curiosity - is there any chance at all that Shrub understands that what he's just confessed to is illegal, -even if he did it-?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Hell yeah I know!
I don't care!
I am the fucking law, and the constamatushun
is just a goddam moldy piece of paper.
You can't stop me,you can't stop me.
And tell me,did the messboys take the strawberries?
G.W.B.
Via Wolcott:
http://counterpunch.org/
leopold1...ld12172005.html
Looks really significant, but now I'm more confused than ever. ~:o
Looks really significant, but now I'm more confused than ever. ~:o
adios
Karl doin' a heck of a job ratfuckin' you moonbat
lefties.
I needs me mah Turdblossum....
G.W.B.
You mean the DICTATOR is a criminal. You can't call a leader who is so clearly above the law a "President". It doesn't jibe with the definition of "President".
"You're damn right I ordered the Code Red!!!"
Vienna
The truth? you moonbat bastards can't
handle the truth!!
G.W.B.
Somebody ought to tell Feingold to stay out of airplanes with Paul Wellstone.
Is there a loophole here? The statute (18 U.S.C. § 2518(f)) says domestic communications. The spying was international. Not saying it's okay, but does he dodge the illegal aspect?
If my name is on that list, Mr. President, uh, please do not publish it as, I might need to be able to find work again in the future.
Is there a loophole here? The statute (18 U.S.C. § 2518(f)) says domestic communications. The spying was international.
Not quite.
These calls (the ones that were tapped illegally anyway) originated in the US.
I thought every prosecutor and every law enforcement officer had this concept drilled into them repeatedly: get a warrant, get a warrant, get a warrant.
The law in question even permits the wiretappers to get a warrant three days after the tap began. But they still didn't.
What the screaming person said some posts above. It's time to begin shouting, and I mean shouting demands for Bush's impeachment given the illegality of this incident. I like "Impeach. Convict. Send to the Hague." as a slogan.
And really, really consider Feingold as the best of all possible canidate choices in 2008 election. He's just that good.
Another vote for impeachment
I believe the reference [18 U.S.C. § 2518(f)] should be 18 U.S.C. § 2511(f)].
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/usco...11----000-
.html
The President has the power to seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, call reserve forces amounting to 2 1/2 million men to duty, institute martial law, seize and control all menas of transportation, regulate all private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all Americans. It has been that way your whole life you idiot. I think what you are afraid of is victory for America.
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