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Part One of our award-winning* series observing the sad decline of some Americans' ability to critically think on even a third grade level:
Myth America
*no actual awards given out as of yet
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"How are people going to have faith in America and its system of laws if you keep reporting that we laugh at law in the White House?
There oughta be a law against you!!"
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Peace on earth, goodwill toward all.
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And yes, most of those dumbassified 'murkins could be model conservatarians. They do not mind the Finger Of Freedom™ tickling their prostate, though they naturally prefer it be everybody else's.
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BLOWJOBS on Mars bitches while wearing a blue dress.
MYOB'
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Yeah, but Tiki Barber just broke 4 tackles.
Surely that must count for something.
okay, maybe not.
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They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Bastards
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I love how they're concerned by the fact this is being leaked, not about the fucking illegality of the act itself.
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The law is what they say it is, not unlike, say, Uzbekistan. Can't wait for the murals of Great Uncle to start cropping up in the vaunted heartland.
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Tiki Barber? But today is Saturday?
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from below:
They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Hecate Malificent | Email | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 6:25 pm | #
no kidding. which just goes to show, it wasn't intelligence failure so much as redirection. when it's something they actually are interested in learning, no problem.
they just weren't very curious on the iraq issue, having already made up their tiny fascist little minds.
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Bingo.
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OKay, off to the laundromat. Bye bats!
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(but who gives a shit if karl rove reveeaded a cia agents indentiry)
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Why shouldn't conservatives be concerned about this? This is a time to rally around the President, not criticize him in attempting to execute the War on Terror to the best of his ability.
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They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Yeah, but so did everyone else.
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This is now the anti-wingnut card.
If anyone says, "The President would never do the things you're accusing him of", just say, "Then why did he admit to illegal wiretaps on American citizens? A person who would do something like that would probably do anything. Steal elections. Torture. And God knows what else."
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Reindeer Blogging again! 
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They see every message Howard Dean gets on his blackberry. They know who Kerry talks to on his cell phone. They have been snooping on the Dems since well before 9/11 .
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This is a time to rally around the President, not criticize him in attempting to execute the War on Terror to the best of his ability.
shoelimpy™
"the bets of his ability" does not include the geneva conventions or the fourth amendment
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I love how they're concerned by the fact this is being leaked, not about the fucking illegality of the act itself.
Exactly. And they did the same damn thing with the secret European gulag thing - got more pissed off at the people who revealed it than at what Bush was allowing to be done.
Really points up their sense of "morality".
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This is a time to rally around the President, not criticize him in attempting to execute the War on Terror to the best of his ability.
ok, how badly does he need to fail or how egregiously does he need to break the law before it would be wrong to rally around him?
can he shoot suspected terrorists point blank on the subway? if the guy just "looks funny"?
c'mon - what's the breaking point?
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They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Yes, and they still had to steal the election in order to "win".
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"rally around the presidenT"
why cause he pissed on the rights of americnas?
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War On Terror, War On Xmas, hatred of Dear Leader. Jeebus, Santa, Great Uncle. It all just blurs together after repeated screaming from O'Falafel and his minions.
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Goddamned Conservative conspiracy to stifle free speech!
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This is a time to rally around the President, not criticize him in attempting to execute the War on Terror to the best of his ability.
If he has to destroy the Constitution and mock the laws of the American people to do it, then the war ain't worth winning.
The only thing different about such a tyranny, as opposed to the tyranny of the terrorists, is that our tyranny would wear red, white and blue and keep its lawns mowed.
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Tiki Barber? But today is Saturday?
See? War on Saturn'sday. People refusing to acknowledge my religion. I feel persecuted.
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"We are very concerned by the fact that people are exposing illegal acts by the government to the press."
Does this imply it should be a crime to report a crime?
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Really points up their sense of "morality".
Pere Ubu
and the levels of Bush worship that exist
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""the bets of his ability" does not include the geneva conventions or the fourth amendment"
Yes it does, however if these things get in the way of the greater common good, then as has always happened in history they must be put aside in order to defeat the crisis.
shoelimpy™ |
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TKK,
Channel 2.
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They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Yes, and they still had to steal the election in order to "win".
Jonny Quest
That and Ole yeller Kerry rolled over and played dead.
Promises promises.
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Don't like leaks? Can you say Plame?
(now take off, etc. etc.)
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Hecate,
I acknowledge your religion on this special Saturn's Day. I even went into a wiccan store in your honor today.
I needed some sage to smudge my Tarot deck.
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Yes it does, however if these things get in the way of the greater common good, then as has always happened in history they must be put aside in order to defeat the crisis.
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We aren't destroying the Constitution. We're keeping it in this box for safekeeping.
We'll bring it out later. You can trust us.
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The question that needs to be asked: Would the conservatards be upset if they were caught in this spying net?
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"rally around the presidenT"
rally around THIS, pink boy!
(grabs crotch)
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Remember when the thugs were caught breaking into the Dem's computers a while back? What ever happened there?
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"If he has to destroy the Constitution and mock the laws of the American people to do it, then the war ain't worth winning.
The only thing different about such a tyranny, as opposed to the tyranny of the terrorists, is that our tyranny would wear red, white and blue and keep its lawns mowed."
He's not destroying the Constitution. The Constitution is still intact, strong as ever, thank you very much. I think you give our Founding Fathers too little credit to believe that their Constitution could be destroyed by any single man.
The Constitution will be destroyed if we allow the terrorists to win.
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They see every message Howard Dean gets on his blackberry. They know who Kerry talks to on his cell phone. They have been snooping on the Dems since well before 9/11 .
So they are like Jeebus and Santy Claus. Hmmm....but what's the upside in spying on sheer incompetence? "Yep, they're still a bunch of uncoordinated fuck-ups." I mean, you don't exactly need a lot of high-tech gadgets to see that the Dems don't remotely have their shit together (though Feingold was masterful in filibustering the Patriot Act. More of that, por favor.).
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Yes it does, however if these things get in the way of the greater common good, then as has always happened in history they must be put aside in order to defeat the crisis.
shoelimpy™
so the war on terror never ends
so americans lose roghts and tcna torture people at will indefinetley
if this is true
are you proud to be an american?
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the president does this because he loves you, each and every one of you.
ken mehlman
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The Constitution will be destroyed if we allow the terrorists to win.
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the Constitution is being destroyed because Bush won
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""the bets of his ability" does not include the geneva conventions or the fourth amendment"
Yes it does, however if these things get in the way of the greater common good, then as has always happened in history they must be put aside in order to defeat the crisis.
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no, it doesn't you cowardly little pussy.
real americans would be ashamed to run scared from the constitution over a little threat. what the fuck are you protecting, anyway? your own puny little life?
"give me liberty or give me death" means nothing to sniveling facsist cowards, i guess.
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Remember when the thugs were caught breaking into the Dem's computers a while back? What ever happened there?
Jonny Quest
Good question. Absolutely nothing, except that Hannity, as I recall, was trying to blame it on the outrageous actions of the Dems going against the president.
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es it does, however if these things get in the way of the greater common good, then as has always happened in history they must be put aside in order to defeat the crisis.
shoelimpy™
You know how many of these
Dec 16 1950
To fight "world conquest by communist imperialism" in Korea, President Truman declares a state of National Emergency. The order is still in effect, one of four current states of national emergency granting extraordinary powers. We must be fools.
Are still in effect?
I bet Bushco counts on them.
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We aren't destroying the Constitution. We're keeping it in this box for safekeeping.
More like "we ran out of toilet paper".
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The question that needs to be asked: Would the conservatards be upset if they were caught in this spying net?
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If the conservatards ever found themselves in such trouble, they'd turn so liberal that it would make Michael Moore look like Mussolini.
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america: bringing freedom round the world while supprsessing it's own people
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the conserivtards are the type who would hand in their grandmother to the gestapo because they love their 'dear leader' so much.
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They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Hecate Malificent
Well, that certainly explains how they were able to release the SB video on the Monday after the Democratic convention and the book on the Wednesday after.
(H-did I use the correct terminology for the days of week, I really don't want to offend thee.)
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The Constitution will be destroyed if we allow the terrorists to win.
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We had to destroy the Constitution in order to save it.
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"give me liberty or give me death" means nothing to sniveling facsist cowards, i guess.
Exactly. I have no idea what American value they're supposed to be protecting at this point -- their freedom to shop relatively unmolested and drive a fleet of gas-guzzlers, I guess.
Freeedomocracy™ -- smell the anal vapors!
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couldn't get back into the long thread, put a half a ham & made scalloped taters w/ extra onion & cheese in the oven. swilling non'elitist wine spritzers (burgundy = pinot noir, same grape).
he was down, go chiefs.
impeach the chimp.
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Bush isn't breaking the law; he's allowing the agents of the NSA to practice their love on the American public.
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We are very concerned by the fact that people are exposing illegal acts by the government to the press.
Sure they are. Because they fucking know that the names on that list are not arabic sounding. Let's face it, most Americans wouldn't get too terribly worked up if all Shrub was spying on were Muslims.
They're shitscared because they know damn well that list contains democratic politicians, independent journalists, and other liberal voices.
So they're very, very concerned its existence was leaked.
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They see every message Howard Dean gets on his blackberry. They know who Kerry talks to on his cell phone. They have been snooping on the Dems since well before 9/11 .
I like it. Prove to me that you're not reading my email.
Can you imagine the gaggle?:
Q: "Scotty, is the President reading my email?"
A: "I already answered that question."
Q: "No you didn't."
A: "Yes I did."
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shoelimpy,
You don't seem to understand "who" the terrorist really are.
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They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Yes, and they still had to steal the election in order to "win".
Jonny Quest
That and Ole yeller Kerry rolled over and played dead.
Promises promises.
Wonder what they used to blackmail him.
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Who were they spying on? Kerry? Tom Daschle? Every democrat involved in a close House or Senate race? Governors?
Heck, anybody involved in an effort to defeat Republicans could be considered a "terrorist" by these bastards.
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Would the conservatards be upset if they were caught in this spying net?
They're firmly convinced that as long as they keep loyal to the Party, their sweet lil' asses will be safe.
Now, what are they going to be saying if we get in a Democratic President like Clinton who has these same powers...?
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Bush isn't breaking the law; he's allowing the agents of the NSA to practice their love on the American public.
watertiger
and avoiding activist judges and trial lawyers
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I am always proud to be an American. I trust George W. Bush, he is a good and honest man. This is part of the purpose of electing moral people into the Executive Office, you know that you can trust them. We couldn't trust Clinton.
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Wonder what they used to blackmail him.
Hecate Malificent
live boy or dead girl
or possibly a fish like troy mcclure
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oh god,
the jeebofascists are still about?
the conservatards are scared i think. i'm pretty sure they are aware bush crossed a line.
moreover bush is scared, why else interupt his nice guy act to come out and play strongman today.
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The Constitution will be destroyed if we allow the terrorists to win.
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i am not afraid of the terrorists. not one little bit. screw them! they are only terrorists if we are terrified.
the constitution is destroyed if it is ignored. and for that matter, fuck the constitution. how about the bill of rights?
without freedom there is no america. just a giant fucking wal-mart for our chinese overlords to sell through.
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the Bush Junta have a wacky idea about what 'freedom' means.
freedom to spy on you
freedom to lock you up without even telling you what your charged with
freedom to ignored domestic and international law
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Shorter liberal blogosphere:
-- 'Releasing' publicly available information that Joe Wilson was married to Valerie plame = Impeachable
-- Releasing national security secrets = Patriotism.
Not anti-war. Just on the other side.
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I trust George W. Bush, he is a good and honest man.
he is a liar and a criminal and a murderer.
look it up.
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I trust George W. Bush, he is a good and honest man. This is part of the purpose of electing moral people into the Executive Office, you know that you can trust them.
I vote "parody troll".
This shit is just too over-the-top.
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Time to eat batsies. That monster thread tired me out.
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an. This is part of the purpose of electing moral people into the Executive Office, you know that you can trust them. We couldn't trust Clinton.
shoelimpy
wait
bush
whoi admitted today that he broke the law is "moral"
boy you really need a blowjob to loosen up
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This is a time to rally around the President, not criticize him in attempting to execute the War on Terror to the best of his ability.
If this war is so important, if these 'terrorists' are so dangerous that the President must be allowed to break the law -- that must mean that this country is in mortal danger, right?
And yet -- we're not in enough danger for you to have enlisted in this war.
At what point do things get dangerous enough for you to enlist?
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I am always proud to be an American. I trust George W. Bush, he is a good and honest man. This is part of the purpose of electing moral people into the Executive Office, you know that you can trust them. We couldn't trust Clinton.
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I believe in George W. Bush. I don't believe thatin Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, or the Rule of Law. Those are the weak concepts of the West. America needs a strongman that can protect them.
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utterly OT.
he really IS a cyborg.
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we could win the WOT if we would learn to play nice. This is playground rules.
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That and Ole yeller Kerry rolled over and played dead.
Promises promises.
Wonder what they used to blackmail him.
Hecate Malificent
I think Iowa was rigged. There was out of state tallying of the votes.
even if it had not been done by Kerry or the Dems they still would have looked bad if it slipped out.
Imagine how the pissed off Deaniacs would have taken it.
That could be the reason for the Bush telling Kerry he wanted to talk to him after the debate rumor.
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Not anti-war. Just on the other side.
Gaheris Rhade
shorter shorter troll
you dont like bush
you are a traitor
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This is a time to rally around the President, not criticize him in attempting to execute the War on Terror to the best of his ability.
shoelimpy™
don't you tire of living in a constant state of scaredshitlessness and daddy worship? and is there any crime commited by these thugs you can't swallow?
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They're very concerned about people exposing classified information, so am I. And how is Karl Rove doing?
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I vote "parody troll".
This shit is just too over-the-top.
I agree with you.
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Gaheris Rhade
Etruscan for "dumbshit", I believe.
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Reposting from below - the House on c-span2 now.
Apparently the D's with the help of some R's have gotten a resolution attached to the defense authorization (Must Pass) bill which calls for the redeployment of US troops in Iraq to begin in 2006. R's Jones from NC, Gilchrest and Ron Paul are at the mike with Abercrombie, Meehan et al.
My, my.
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so valerie plame wasn't a cia agent preventing proliferation
therefore george bush was never president legally
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no, it doesn't you cowardly little pussy.
real americans would be ashamed to run scared from the constitution over a little threat. what the fuck are you protecting, anyway? your own puny little life?
"give me liberty or give me death" means nothing to sniveling facsist cowards, i guess.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
It really is breathtaking and out of proportion how scared they are of terrorism. I'm sure there is more of a chance of dying by slipping and falling in the shower then by terrorist attack.
If you live outside the target cities, the threat is laughable.
I guess that's why they call it terrorism.
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Who were they spying on? Kerry? Tom Daschle? Every democrat involved in a close House or Senate race? Governors?
Pelosi?
Murtha?
Dan Rather?
How many weird things would start to make sense if (1) the Repugs knew it was going to happen before it happened and (2) the Repugs knew every single one of their opponents' financial embarassments, wive's abortions, sex preferences? Would the press and the Dems suddenly start to seem overly compliant?
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-- 'Releasing' publicly available information that Joe Wilson was married to Valerie plame = Impeachable
-- Releasing national security secrets = Patriotism.
shorter fool:
i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about, so i just make shit up.
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It really is breathtaking and out of proportion how scared they are of terrorism.
Which is why their defenses of George W. Bush sound more and more like justifications for a "benevolent dictatorship".
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a resolution attached to the defense authorization (Must Pass) bill which calls for the redeployment of US troops in Iraq to begin in 2006
Could it be possible that Lil' Boots might actually VETO a bill for the first time, here?
And a Defense authorization bill, at that?
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Does this imply it should be a crime to report a crime?
HalfFastSkier
Up is down, BITCH! Boosh is one twister mofo.
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And how is Karl Rove doing?
Getting fitted for his jumpsuit, one hopes.
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They aren't scared of terrorism so much as losing power.
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You are not a traitor if you don't like Bush. Lots of people don't like Bush. Hell, I don't even like the man. But I do trust him. He is a Christian, and that says a lot to me, and I don't think that he would do anything to harm America. No matter what he is doing, you know he always has America's best interest at heart.
Don't you people ever watch Star Trek? Sometimes you have to violate the Prime Directive in order to uphold it.
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Bush needs to resign, frankly.
Anyone who supports a chief executive who believes he has the power to unlawfully spy on American citizens is a traitor.
Period.
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The question that needs to be asked: Would the conservatards be upset if they were caught in this spying net?
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That's an interesting question. Because I'll just bet this bunch is paranoid and defensive enough that some high value conservatards -- who might be noisy enough to be viewed as competition of Imperator Georgie -- might just be on the list.
James Dobson. Pat Robertson. Hegel. Even loony toones O'Lielly.
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Powell raps Europe on CIA flights
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell has indicated that Europeans are being disingenuous when they deny knowledge of the rendition of terror suspects.
Mr Powell said the recently highlighted practice of moving people to places where they are not covered by US law was neither "new or unknown" to Europe.
A number of countries where flights allegedly stopped have said they were unaware of their land being used.
Talking to the BBC, Mr Powell also described his difficulties over Iraq.
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Bush sent thousands of troops overseas to their deaths to "defend our freedom".
But to prevent some unknown number of deaths at home, we have to give up of freedom.???
Fucking douchebags.
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Don't you people ever watch Star Trek? Sometimes you have to violate the Prime Directive in order to uphold it.
DEFINITELY "parody troll".
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Anyone who supports a chief executive who believes he has the power to unlawfully spy on American citizens is a traitor.
Period.
Bring back TARRING AND FEATHERING. We fought a Revolutionary War to avoid being ruled by a king.
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Now, what are they going to be saying if we get in a Democratic President like Clinton who has these same powers...?
Pere Ubu
Just what we need four more years of republicans it's been a straight run since 80.
Time for a change.
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It really is breathtaking and out of proportion how scared they are of terrorism.
It's not a fear of terrorism, it's sports mentality run amok. Their team can do no wrong.
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Why shouldn't conservatives be concerned about this? This is a time to rally around the President, not criticize him in attempting to execute the War on Terror to the best of his ability.
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Hell, I don't even like the man. But I do trust him. He is a Christian, and that says a lot to me, and I don't think that he would do anything to harm America. No matter what he is doing, you know he always has America's best interest at heart.
My friend, George W. Bush is about as much a Christian as Khan was.
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"shoelimpy" is just a joker. Ignore.
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They were and are snooping on Dems. They knew everything Kerry was going to say and do before he did.
Bastards
Hecate Malificent
wow, i just realized how true this probably is, wow.
Bastards
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They aren't scared of terrorism so much as losing power.
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In fact they love hyper-anxiety over terrorism cause they need it to retain power.
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Amendment IV:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
It's worth noting.
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Amendment IV:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
It's worth noting.
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If you live outside the target cities, the threat is laughable.
I guess that's why they call it terrorism.
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I know a woman that was so upset about the possiblity of her water being poisoned, until I pointed out that she was on a well. Damn these fundies are so fucking stupid.
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"shoelimpy" is just a joker. Ignore.
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Right, like a dead mouse - no longer fun to play with.
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How many weird things would start to make sense if (1) the Repugs knew it was going to happen before it happened and (2) the Repugs knew every single one of their opponents' financial embarassments, wive's abortions, sex preferences? Would the press and the Dems suddenly start to seem overly compliant?
Hecate Malificent
There have been rumors of such since the Franklin Coverup.
The other thing overlooked is Poppy managed to place old intelligence cronies at nearly every news organization.
CNN had overt CIA people working for them in the buildup to the inavsion.
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George W. Bush -- The Fourth Amendment President.
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Which is why their defenses of George W. Bush sound more and more like justifications for a "benevolent dictatorship".
Sorry, mate. Nothing *benevolent* about Bu$hCo. Screaming fascist sounds about right.
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It's worth noting.
Quaint, that.
Okay off with me!
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George had to fess-up. Otherwise he couldn't go into Tony Blair mode and decry the leakers (and the media in this case- which makes little sense) in order to ignore the underlying story.
Their spin is getting more and more retarded.
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Sooooo... where ees the LFoD?
(crickets)
so.
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The question that needs to be asked: Would the conservatards be upset if they were caught in this spying net?
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you can right quick find that answer at little green fascists.
to save you the time, no.
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Prediction:
Bush to have a heart attack, or a stroke, before the end of his presidency.
You heard it here first.
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Anyone who supports a chief executive who believes he has the power to unlawfully spy on American citizens is a traitor.
Period.
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And there's the Money Quote™
Word up, brother man.
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It's worth noting.
Well it WAS.
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He is a Christian, and that says a lot to me, and I don't think that he would do anything to harm America.
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If professing a love of Christ and being baptized makes one a Christian, then Jimmy Carter is just as qualified to run the country as Bush, by your standards. Do you agree? Remember, you said you don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with him. He just has to be a professed, God-fearing Christian.
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I don't know anymore. This is making me crazy. So, it's wrong to expose illegal acts by the government?
Been said many times, many ways, this is not my government. Or, it wasn't five years ago.
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No matter what he is doing, you know he always has America's best interest at heart.
once again, i cannot understand people buying into this myth. bush has only his own self interest at heart - either that, or he is so miserably incompetent that i still wouldn't believe people supporting him.
name something, ANYTHING, that this bastard has done for the american people?
tax cuts for the rich? sitting idle and taking vacations while 9/11 was being plotted? wasting hundreds of billions and thousands of lives on an illegal and immoral war against a country which posed no threat while waving the banner of an attack from another source?
he is a total fuck up by any standard of what is good for americans. but he and his closest pals have done quite well for themselves.
he's a thief and a bastard and a psychotic megalomaniac. and he has been all his life. how did you let him get such sway over you? how stupid and scared can you be?
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George Bush - The Torture and Spying President.
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"Paging George Orwell. George Orwell to the bugged courtesy phone...."
Bush: Eavesdropping Helps Save U.S. Lives
(Yahoo! headline)
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George had to fess-up. Otherwise he couldn't go into Tony Blair mode and decry the leakers (and the media in this case- which makes little sense) in order to ignore the underlying story.
Their spin is getting more and more retarded.
Someone said years ago, "It's not the crimes that get you, it's the cover up."
Bush must have learned the wrong lesson. The right lesson is "don't commit crimes" and not "commit crimes, then admit them".
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"shoelimpy" is just a joker. Ignore.
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Right, like a dead mouse - no longer fun to play with.
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Agent Orange
Please, do us all the HOLIDAY favor of ignoring the morons. The last thread was so full of troll shit I nearly broke my scroll key. It will be your HOLIDAY gift to the thread.
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"Bush: Eavesdropping Helps Save U.S. Lives"
Do you have any proof that it doesn't? Since Bush has started eavesdropping, there has not been another attack on US soil now has there?
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Would the conservatards be upset if they were caught in this spying net?
On second thought, if they WERE, I'm sure they'd be the quickest to point fingers and screech "TRAITOR! TRAITOR!" at those who they, until then, had been standing side-by-side with.
No honor among thieves.
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He is a Christian, and that says a lot to me
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter."
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Remember, when the Republicans illegally spy on American citizens, it's strictly in the interests of national security. When Democrats do it, it means the UN's black helicopters are on the way to institute the One Government.
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Help me out here.
Wasn't there some news a while back (aroung the time of the original UN vote on authorization of the war) that we were caught bugging the UN's (Annan's) offices?
Is this part of it?
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Bush: Eavesdropping Helps Save U.S. Lives
Yeah because there are commie infiltrators everywhere!:
http://dieselcreek.blogspot.com/...ibrary-
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"If professing a love of Christ and being baptized makes one a Christian, then Jimmy Carter is just as qualified to run the country as Bush, by your standards. Do you agree? Remember, you said you don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with him. He just has to be a professed, God-fearing Christian."
I have no problems with Jimmy Carter. But you should notice that he isn't the President right now. He has other things to worry with these days.
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If professing a love of Christ and being baptized makes one a Christian, then Jimmy Carter is just as qualified to run the country as Bush,
more so. carter actually IS a xian, unlike the beast bush.
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i personally would like to tell Bush to go fuck himself!
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Please, do us all the HOLIDAY favor of ignoring the morons. The last thread was so full of troll shit I nearly broke my scroll key. It will be your HOLIDAY gift to the thread.
bigvic
I'm sorry, you're right. I don't usually address them and I will try not to again.
Can I talk about them behind their backs?
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this bunch is paranoid and defensive enough that some high value conservatards -- who might be noisy enough to be viewed as competition of Imperator Georgie -- might just be on the list.
Word.
Also Arnold, Hagel, Zell Miller, Donna Brazile. . . .
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these fucking bastards are *desparate*...OMFG, everybody this is game NOW.
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I just wonder if there's a Repub Senator willing to take on the mantle of Goldwater, make the walk up to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, sit down in the Oval Office and say, "YOU'RE FUCKING UP! LEAVE NOW."
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I am always proud to be an American. I trust George W. Bush, he is a good and honest man. This is part of the purpose of electing moral people into the Executive Office, you know that you can trust them. We couldn't trust Clinton.
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The question that needs to be asked: Would the conservatards be upset if they were caught in this spying net?
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Why I remember how upset conservatives were with me for recording my conversations with Monica.
Oh wait...
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What's all thi crap about terrorists winning? Its not as if a few thousands angry muslims were ever in a position to take over a nation of 280 million people.
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Been said many times, many ways, this is not my government. Or, it wasn't five years ago.
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It's nothing but a farce government these days. The GOP has more in common with the Mafia than a Democracy.
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