I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Wanker.
COCKPUNCH!
17, 1971: Nixon, Haldeman, and Ronald Ziegler, 2:42-3:33 P.M., Oval Office Conversation #524-7; cassette #775
Nixon: We can kill these people with this. "Knowingly publishing stolen goods." That's what the Times is doing. "Knowingly publishing stolen goods." "Giving aid and comfort to the enemy." That's the way you have to play it. "Giving aid and comfort to the enemy." That's the way you have to play it. "No cause justifies breaking the law"
What about the leakers?
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And an asshole.
And a whiny ass titty baby.
Anything that makes Bush look bad is a threat to national security.
Hey, maybe the schoolbus is full of bloodpeople.
Or he's going to infect a bunch of kids with his evil bloodiness.
Someone call a Waaaaaaahhhmbulance!
Okay, THAT was gruesome.
Yeah, but ticking time bomb blah blah blah
/wingnut
Anything that makes Bush look bad is a threat to national security.
Considering he considers himself to be the "state," I suppose that makes a fucked up kind of sense.
Oh- I would be soooooo evil with the Prince of Persia game.
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OT: Eli, without Tiki you are NOTHING!
The law does not apply to King George, eh?
Is this, finally, enough to impeach the son of a bitch?
Is this variations on a theme blog?
I mean, really.
When you think about it, that's entirely their argument- no one but chimpy can lead us during this time of emergency, so therefore, anyone who attacks him is damaging national security.
I'll retire to bedlam now.
Do you understand impeachment?
OT: Eli, without Tiki you are NOTHING!
Without TKK, I am less than nothing.
Bush is a lying criminal. And a wanker.
Film at 11.
Is this variations on a theme blog?
Can you think of anything more important to talk about?
Besides blood boy that is?
A question for the gallery, related to something Rohrabacher kept saying in the transcript posted below. How many Americans died in the 9/11 attacks? Three thousand is the typical answer, but I recall on the day of the attacks there was mention that many people of other nationalities were killed as well, for a total of 3,000.
Anyhow, I've googled it and can't find an answer. If anyone knows, or can point me to a website, I'd be grateful.
Atrios, why do you hate America? I'm sure Dear Leader...umm, Dubya, was only spying on them A-rabs, not real 'Murkans like me. And just look, them Eye-racki women don't have to wear the burqa no more, and freedom is on the march....
Abandon all hope.
Can't the mother fucker just be dragged out of the White House kicking and screaming, and put in a place where he won't harm himself or others?
Well, maybe just others.
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
CNN.com, December 18, 2000
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
--U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 4
more here...
http://www.law.cornell.edu/backg...ach/
impeach.htm
I'm the Preznit, damnit!
Ooooh! that's some skid mark.
Our security has been jeopardized by Bush. Not by the NYT.
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
He really wanted to tell the latest fart joke but was afraid it wouldn't be appropriate for the POTUS select.
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Bloody bus.
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Is that a short yellow bus?
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Is this, finally, enough to impeach the son of a bitch?
David Derbes
Apparently, a blow job needs to be involved.
Driver looks a bit like Anthony Quinn.
I'm a WAR PReznit! hehehehehehe1
Shit, how much blood does that kid have in him?
Looks like they're choking in the clutch.
Uh oh.... she is REALLY, REALLY fucked.
Is this the tipping point where American says ENOUGH?
Ok, who's in charge of the framing in this pic?
Ok, who's in charge of the framing in this pic?
It was a lot better for the first girl.
I'm a WAR PReznit! hehehehehehe1
There's never been a declaration of war, by this President.
Sometimes I wonder who the real Useless Timewasters™ really are...
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Fuggin DONKOS!!
Congressional authority to investigate is concomitant with its authority to legislate. It is necessary, then, to have unfettered access to executive branch information in order to be able to make sound legislative judgments. It is exactly the `uncoordinated,' `deliberative,' `internal,' and `pre-decisional' documents of an agency that Congress needs in most cases. These documents can provide unique insights into the full spectrum of thought on any given issue pending before an agency and Congress. Without access to such documents, Congress would be left only with the `spin' the executive branch agency opted to provide to the legislative branch. This result, without question, would only serve to undermine the legitimate authority of Congress to conduct independent oversight.
Porter Goss regarding the lack of information he was receiving as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee from the NSA back in 2000.
what must it be like to know that nearly every instinct you have is wrong and yet you persist in leading with your peanut
The grown-ups are in charge. Double-super-secret passwords only for those who know the secret handshake!
If they don't know the handshake, then it's naked-man pile time!
Bill Clinton said that he took advantage of Monic "Because I could."
I submit that Junior is using the same logic, except he ain't getting a blowjob out of the deal.
I'm not sure. Is the republic doomed or is this just another round of Groundhog Day?
An estimated 500 foreign nationals from 91 nations were believed to have been killed in the trade center attack.
From CNN archive
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I'm a WAR PReznit! hehehehehehe1
There's never been a declaration of war, by this President
Don't make me declare you an illegal combatant! It's off to Gitmo for you!
Okay, so he's not the bad guy?
I am so hopelessly confused.
Bush is a lying criminal.
And a wanker.
And not even Wanker of the Year!
GWBush is a traitor to his country, and he deserves - at the very least - to be impeached.
What he really deserves is to be dragged from the Oval Office in chains, tarred and feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail.
Most of us know this.
This little pissant has come as close as anyone has in 200+ yrs to ruining the dream our founding fathers had. And, he may yet succeed. The raw power of the privileged and the wealthy are tireless in their desire to return us to the feudal system.
I hope we have enough strength to fight them and beat them back - rather than, say, off, which is what too many seem too eager to do these days.
Okay, so he's not the bad guy?
I am so hopelessly confused.
I either keep looking away, or the editing is really vague & unhelpful...
Bill Clinton said that he took advantage of Monic "Because I could."
I submit that Junior is using the same logic, except he ain't getting a blowjob out of the deal.
And that knobby didn't kill thousands of people either
Nobody told me there was a menacing oily bohunk in this movie.
Bush is a wanker. But the Broncos tie it up.
these blood boys are like deer at dusk, always jumping in front of moving vehicles.
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I sure hope they're going to explain what's going on at some point, or this is basically just low-rent David Lynch...
editing is really vague & unhelpful...
That the one.
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mmmmmmmmm.... bohunks! ....
Wow - Chrissie Hynde is in it too?
That the one.
Something sudden just happened!
I'll retire to bedlam now.
four legs good
Sorry, the renovation and expansion is behind schedule and waaaayyy over budget.
Nobody expected demand to spike the way it has recently.
RMJ is going to pay a visit to the project site and see what the new timetable for occupancy will be.
We regret any inconvenience this may cause you.
GWBush is a traitor to his country, and he deserves - at the very least - to be impeached.
What he really deserves is to be dragged from the Oval Office in chains, tarred and feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail.
Most of us know this.
This little pissant has come as close as anyone has in 200+ yrs to ruining the dream our founding fathers had. And, he may yet succeed. The raw power of the privileged and the wealthy are tireless in their desire to return us to the feudal system.
I hope we have enough strength to fight them and beat them back - rather than, say, off, which is what too many seem too eager to do these days.
Sarah Deere | 12.17.05 - 10:16 pm | #
Sarah, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
cheney's going on a pr tour of where we are hated most. if i were cheney, i would be packing my own shoot.
what the hell was that?
If I were Fitzgarld I would assume my phones have been tapped with Rove recording every word.
This is so very serious.
IMPEACH!
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."
-- Thomas Jefferson
too buzzed to think for myself, so i let tommy take over for a bit.
think i'll go pass out now.
peace and humptiness forever
Nothing should astound us anymore, but, having just arrived, I have to say that Rohrbacher's comments below are absolutely stunning. Not only proud but grateful. As long as the sheep bray loud enough, and in unison, most of the other animals (including especially the stenographer animals) won't be able to distinguish any other sound ...
low-rent David Lynch...
So that was Leland Palmer watching the video? Is Bob in there somewhere?
The trees are not what they seem.
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The Hills are alive with blood boooooys...
What's going on in them there backwoods?
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sorry, got caught up in that amazon dvd blowout sale.
If I were Fitzgarld I would assume my phones have been tapped with Rove recording every word.
I would imagine Fitzgeral routinely has his phones checked for wiretaps.
I sure hope they're going to explain what's going on at some point, or this is basically just low-rent David Lynch...
Yep. At the moment I can't imagine a coherent explanation for any of this.
As long as the sheep bray loud enough, and in unison...
Well the good news is that many of us are not woolgathering.
sorry, got caught up in that amazon dvd blowout sale.
Hello, what?
sorry, got caught up in that amazon dvd blowout sale.
watertiger
Heh. Added all five to my Wish List.
Bush is a wanker and so is the NYT. If this story had be published last year, Bush would have lost the election and President Kerry would be signing legislation extending the protection of the Whistle Blower's Act to members of the intelligence community. National security had nothing to do with delaying the release of this story. Keeping Bush in office had everything to do it.
Before any of you moonbats respond to shoelimpy or annieangel, please check this out first.
Massive props to Carpbasman.
The FOXNews cabal, Tweety and the others should be especially insufferable tomorrow morning.
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Nothing should astound us anymore, but, having just arrived, I have to say that Rohrbacher's comments below are absolutely stunning. Not only proud but grateful. As long as the sheep bray loud enough, and in unison, most of the other animals (including especially the stenographer animals) won't be able to distinguish any other sound ...
Rohrbacher is just like good old B-1 Bob Dornen - A good old fashioned right wing nutjob. As long as it is your freedoms he buries, it's OK. He needs to be sent to China and put into a camp for political dissidents.
That is Roxy that is what that is.
"No, that is UGLY."
that was pretty fucking funny.
I would imagine Fitzgeral routinely has his phones checked for wiretaps.
Probobly for secure communications, a one time pad. Unless they know what you are using for that, not even the NSA has enough computational power to break those. And, they can be used over the phone.
sorry, got caught up in that amazon dvd blowout sale.
watertiger
Bought the Humphrey Bogart boxed set for Mrs. Lane to give me for Fitzmas - Casablanca, Key Largo, Maltese Falson, Big Sleep. At + 60% off no less!!
You know that Dennis Hastert and others must realize that the only way Republicans can keep the House is to desert this ship and impeach both Bush and Cheney (and the Senate would convict, if they refuse to resign) BEFORE November 2006 elections.
Otherwise, the Dems will win the House, impeach them, and if they're convicted in the Senate, the Dem House Speaker will become president.
You know what I like? This picture.
http://tinyurl.com/auok9
George Bush in front of Teddy Roosevelt, a man Gore Vidal called "American Sissy," who also embellished his war record. That war, by the way? Sold to the public on false evidence.
God, that picture is PERFECT.
Bears repeating:
Well, it's actually an elaborate, supernatural battle to keep Dormammu from taking over our planet. The recent atmospheric and lithospheric disturbances over the past few years are phenomena indicating the friction resulting from the caustic forces of Dormammu's time-twisting, multi-dimensional attempts to enter our realm.
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...makes as much sense as anything else.
watertiger -
Buy anything good?
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Why did the Times come out with it now? Is wall street deciding to get rid of George?
This could have come before now, who decided ?
Bush is a great man and a heroic president, who is only trying to keep us from being harmed by terrorists.
Why can't you whiny-ass titty liberals stop hating America and love our leader like he should be?
Stop hurting our troops and being unpatriotic.
The Hills are alive with blood boooooys...
What's going on in them there backwoods?
"The hills are alive/And it's pretty frightening..." -- Barbra Streisand
If this story had be published last year, Bush would have lost the election and President Kerry would be signing legislation
ah - who can forget "we can't air that, because we don't want to affect the outcome of the election."
yes, wouldn't be good for people to know what the fuck is going on before voting - who knows what mischief might result!
figure skating on oxygen. (what a cool sentence fragment)
If this story had be published last year, Bush would have lost the election and President Kerry would be signing legislation
ah - who can forget "we can't air that, because we don't want to affect the outcome of the election."
yes, wouldn't be good for people to know what the fuck is going on before voting - who knows what mischief might result!
figure skating on oxygen. (what a cool sentence fragment)
If this story had be published last year, Bush would have lost the election and President Kerry would be signing legislation extending the protection of the Whistle Blower's Act to members of the intelligence community.
So who at the NYT makes the publish/don't publish decision - Pinch alone?
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install, evil laugh. (contact the daily show for sound effect)
Internal Medicine doctor
Probobly for secure communications, a one time pad. Unless they know what you are using for that, not even the NSA has enough computational power to break those. And, they can be used over the phone.
Now that would be fucked up if the prosecutor had to resort to using one-time pads to keep his own government from spying on him.
And how much of a geek am I that I know what a one-time pad is?
I am still scattered on this issue, been dashing about all day. Riddle me this...
The fact this was happening was already known by the times but held for almost a year? Or am I confusing that with another story? And am I correct or again muddled with something else that the times was asked to hold the story by the administration?
Did I hear Bush indicate today that the 'leak' would be investigated?
If that is the case, why did he indicate it would be investigated in the future tense? Why didn't they start looking into it a year ago?
Again, I have bits and pieces so I may be totally off base.
4lg sez:
And how much of a geek am I that I know what a one-time pad is?
Apparently I'm a geek, too.
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And how much of a geek am I that I know what a one-time pad is?
four legs good, in this day and age, it's just basic crypto literacy.
The fact this was happening was already known by the times but held for almost a year?
No, more than a year.
So what's this I hear Cap'n Bunny Pants has demanded time to speak to the Nation tomorrow night?
Did I hear wrong? Is this when He (notice the delightful cap on 'He') declares his dictatorship?
So who at the NYT makes the publish/don't publish decision - Pinch alone?
Judging from that New Yorker article, Pinch probably did without giving it much thought.
Bush is a great man and a heroic president, who is only trying to keep us from being harmed by terrorists.
Why can't you whiny-ass titty liberals stop hating America and love our leader like he should be?
Stop hurting our troops and being unpatriotic.
Pro-Fascist | Email | 12.17.05 - 10:26 pm | #
Stepping slowly on the troll-roach, listening to it's exo-skeleton crack and watching it's guts squish out.....
Did I hear wrong? Is this when He (notice the delightful cap on 'He') declares his dictatorship?
I think that happened when he said the "accountability moment" had passed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One...ki/One-
time_pad
Thanks for the incentive to look up a new term. I just learned something with which I can impress people.
I don't think Helen's okay.
I just had a happy, albeit completely far-fetched, thought:
Wouldn't it be nice if Bush resigned tomorrow night?
Bush is a lying criminal.
And a wanker.
And the people who continue to support him are even bigger wankers!
I think I liked Digby's accessment of this situation best. They had the tools to do it all legally but didn't, and it doesn't make sense why they wouldn't unless they deliberately went outside the FISA system in place because they didn't want FISA to know what they were doing. Which makes it pretty clear they were using this to do more than they are letting on.
I should think that the democrats should say f*ck it! And subpoena the records now of who was being tapped.
Do it now cause the lights in my house just went dim and it's probably because the WH just plugged in 2000 paper shredders and is sucking the life away from the power grid.
MYOB'
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This movie looks like a winger vision of America.
"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy."
Same bullshit, different century.
Why didn't they start looking into it a year ago?
Because then it lacked any political value. Now they can keep the maroons energized hating liberals and treasonous war critics.
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The one-time pad is covered together with Caesar cypher at some point in intro to networking.
Cheney and Rumsfeld, sittin' in a tree...
c.o.n.s.piracy.
Wouldn't it be nice if Bush resigned tomorrow night?
[spork goes off to a happy place for a moment.]
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oh, please don't tell me the killer is the old lady.
Blogwhore Alert!
Anyone interested in the Bolivian Presidential election tomorrow?
Here's a snip from the end of the article:
As the sun sets against the serrated peaks of Villa Fatima, the rock trio give voice to the anger and expectation that will make managing Bolivia such a tightrope-walk for their hero. The singer grabs the microphone and screams: "The place to eradicate coca is in the noses of those gringo sons of bitches!"
I thought a one-time pad was a feminine napkin.
...& did ya'll see that BUSH™ has nominated viveca novak's huzband for the FEC?
Wouldn't it be nice if Bush resigned tomorrow night?
watertiger
Better to buy some PowerBall tickets, your chances are a lot better there.
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oh, please don't tell me the killer is the old lady.
Prolly possessed by Blood Boy or something.
Wouldn't it be nice if Bush resigned tomorrow night?
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 10:31 pm | #
president cheney?
impeach. remove. jail.
...& did ya'll see that BUSH™ has nominated viveca novak's huzband for the FEC?
FEC is right.
oooh. a corpse tea party.
Yikes - she's feeling a bit stabby tonight.
Well, I guess it *is* her.
Interesting.
HA HA HA HA
WTF kinda goofy-ass movie is this!!!
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...& did ya'll see that BUSH™ has nominated viveca novak's huzband for the FEC?
no! really? god, this group is SO cynical, i'd almost admire them if i didn't hate them so much.
so very, very much.
president cheney?
IED while on his secret tour of Iraq.
He can call him Ray, or he can call him Jay...
oooh. a corpse tea party.
"Thank you, Helen - you are tough *and* cool!"
WTF is going on in this movie?
oooh. a corpse tea party.
"Thank you, Helen - you are tough *and* cool!"
What about you, Polly Prissypants?
You go to the school of flat affect acting.
Yeah - you too.
Yeah.
" Why didn't they start looking into it a year ago?
Because then it lacked any political value"
Agent, I would have to disagree on that for the simple fact this issue is a killer for them. Are you saying my basic understanding of events is correct or close then? Becasue if Bush is bouncing the leak will be investigated meme, it comes down to a simple question, to simple to avoid. Why the fuck Mr. President didn't your people look into it instead of now? Basic competency is involved as well as desire to perform duties in an upfront manner. I am hashing this up damnit, but basically, Why now versus earlier Mr. President?
GEORGE BUSH THE ZEN PRESIDENT WILL PROTECT US FROM THE TERRISTS BY GIVING UP THE FREEDOMS THEY HATE US FOR! NOW THEY WILL LOVE US AND WE MUST ALL LOVE BUSH. YING YAM! ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE!
Stuart must have been a baaaaaaad boy...
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IED while on his secret tour of Iraq.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 10:36 pm | #
how many have to be in his entourage before we work down to a non-criminal?
i'm thinking john snow is the highest level marginally acceptable. he's a plutocrat, but not evil beyond sycophantic greed. and wouldn't get much accomplished, anyway.
So... They're like vigilante zombies or something?
Sarah, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
Keystone Blues
your point would be...???
What a week - W admits he started the war based on faulty intelligence and knowing what he now knows would invade Iraq again, admits he has totally violated the constitution by authorizing no-warrant wiretapping and domestic espionage that would make the KGB look like the ACLU -- and still no one in the house or senate will call for impeachment.
Not only that but my six year old has the fucking mumps
oy gevalt!
Bush is a great man and a heroic president, who is only trying to keep us from being harmed by terrorists.
Why can't you whiny-ass titty liberals stop hating America and love our leader like he should be?
Stop hurting our troops and being unpatriotic.
Pro-Fascist | Email | 12.17.05 - 10:26 pm | #
Has to be a parody.
Who would call themselves "pro Fascist"?
That's like calling yourself "Pro Pedophilia."
Why are they beating up Bob Dylan?
And how come the junkie gets his own bloody zombie instead just being part of a composite one?
Wouldn't it be nice if Bush resigned tomorrow night?
watertiger
He won't.
The real problem here is the fact that the congress signed over their rights of oversight when they signed the Patriot Act which actually allows Bush to do exactly what he did.
our leader like he should be?
YOu're right.
He SHOULD be a leader.
But he isn't.
I'll have what you're drinking Atrios. You're fired up!
Another black eye for Bush...how many can he withstand before we call TKO?
what's with pulling the shirt up? nuthin' special going on there.
And how come the junkie gets his own bloody zombie instead just being part of a composite one?
not only that, he's got BACK-UP!
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George Carlin once said he had a friend in government who knew the FBI was tapping his calls. Therefore, every time the phone rang he'd answer, "Fuck Hoover, hello?"
WE MUST ALL LOVE BUSH.
Merkin Patriot
Er, no.
WTF is going on in this movie?
Beats the hell out of me.
what's with pulling the shirt up? nuthin' special going on there.
I think there was a bullet hole.
Or a third nipple.
what's with pulling the shirt up
He wants beads thrown at him?
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Sarah, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
Keystone Blues
your point would be...???
Sarah Deere
it's not good to hold in your feelings, thats all
What about you, Polly Prissypants?
Drunkee
FRIST is here????????
George Carlin once said he had a friend in government who knew the FBI was tapping his calls. Therefore, every time the phone rang he'd answer, "Fuck Hoover, hello?"
Peter Fonda supposedly trained young Bridget to answer the phone, "Fuck the CIA!"
what's with pulling the shirt up?
Must........ aerate..... xiphoid.... process....
If you want to see a little example of how much the press has changed since Jack Andersaon's heyday, then go read my obituary on him.
Here. A a moment NOT about Bush.
my six year old has the fucking mumps
sounds communicable
I am hashing this up damnit, but basically, Why now versus earlier Mr. President?
EkCenTriK
The political value is as a catalyst for ratcheting up more of the treasonous liberals crap. Bush doesn't care who leaked this. They may already know.
There won't be any investigation but a whole lot of NYT liberal media bashing. They had to wait for the NYT to play its hand. Now send your hacks out to vilify the Times.
Watch them tomorrow morning...it'll be special.
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Did the Patriot Act give the White House the right to disclose the identity of an undercover CIA operative?
Peter Fonda supposedly trained young Bridget to answer the phone, "Fuck the CIA!"
I've always wondered how she ended up working for Section.
WE MUST ALL LOVE BUSH.
Merkin Patriot
That's Laura's (aka THE JOKER) job
And how much of a geek am I that I know what a one-time pad is?
four legs good
Geekiness must run in the family. I knew what it was too.
Here. A a moment NOT about Bush.
watertiger
awwwwwwwww!
thanks, wt. now i'm going to bed while i have a pleasant pic in my head. quick, before the next bush nightmare is announced.
It's cold here tonight and the themometer is dropping like a rock.
It's 0F right now, It was forcasted to get to -15F, but I'm predicting -25F
Bill Clinton said that he took advantage of Monica "Because I could."
SHE wasn't "taken advantage of."
Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, she wasn't.
Another black eye for Bush...how many can he withstand before we call TKO?
I remember the weekend before the 2000 election, saying to myself, "This 1970s DWI arrest story is going to be the end of Dubya."
Trust me -- if I had a nickel for every story I thought was going to bring down George W. Bush, I could probably qualify for one of his tax cuts. He's Rasputin. He's Michael Myers in the Halloween movies. Nothing can derail this guy.
To call Bush a wanker is a slur on wankers.
Okay, so the spirits of the dead displaced by the building of the dam have come back to claim the land.
right?
Trust me -- if I had a nickel for every story I thought was going to bring down George W. Bush, I could probably qualify for one of his tax cuts. He's Rasputin. He's Michael Myers in the Halloween movies. Nothing can derail this guy.
Sad but so fucking true.
Amy Underhill? I've been charging everything to her dad's tab!
Peter Fonda supposedly trained young Bridget to answer the phone, "Fuck the CIA!"
I used to answer the phone "Fuck Nixon!"
Until my mom persuaded me to "modify" it to "Impeach Nixon."
He's Rasputin. He's Michael Myers in the Halloween movies. Nothing can derail this guy.
...I think there's a song in there somewhere!
Okay, so the spirits of the dead displaced by the building of the dam have come back to claim the land.
So it's Chinatown with zombies.
Huh.
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Who's beating up Bob Dylan?
Hey you punks, leave Mr. Zimmerman alone, or by god I'll show you what "no future" really means.
And get the hell out of that Jello Tree unless you want an ass full of rock salt!
I used to answer the phone "Fuck Nixon!"
Until my mom persuaded me to "modify" it to "Impeach Nixon."
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 10:45 pm | #
my brother used to answer the phone "my father campaigned for goldwater!"
a very dysfunctional family.
too late, the nightmares return.
They had the tools to do it all legally but didn't, and it doesn't make sense why they wouldn't unless they deliberately went outside the FISA system in place because they didn't want FISA to know what they were doing.
No, IMHO, they did it just to prove that they could. They want the preznitcy - the so-called *executive branch* to be completely without oversight. They want to trump everything.
The country is at perpetual war, so the preznit becomes, in effect, KING/EMPEROR.
And no one - NO ONE - has the right or the means to question any fucking thing he does, ever,. at all.
This is utter screaming bullshit. If we allow it, we are done. Toast. History. Fucked.
SHE wasn't "taken advantage of."
And Bill was just in the thong place at the wrong time.
I trust George W. Bush to keep us safe from the terrorists who want to take away our way of life.
We need to support everything Mr. Bush does, as he is the only one who can protect us.
Quit hating America and either love it or leave it.
that helen sure knows how to string people up.
Amy Underhill?
frodo's neice.
You are an idiot. And a liar. Who are you going to hate in '08?
It would be nice if Bush resigned tomorrow. Of course I'd still like to see him frog walked out of office kicking and screaming all the way to the Hague.
They had the tools to do it all legally but didn't, and it doesn't make sense why they wouldn't unless they deliberately went outside the FISA system in place because they didn't want FISA to know what they were doing.
This is exactly what I've been saying all day. FISA was set up to let the gubmint do EXACTLY what the Bushies are saying they had to do -- secretly monitor *evil* people that couldn't be investigated in the normal manner. The only reason you wouldn't use FISA to do EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS FUCKING DESIGNED TO DO, is because that's not what you're really doing.
You're monitoring people you have no fucking business monitoring and the FISA court would tell you to go fuck yourself.
Ah, I get it. Helen used to run a hotel, but thanks to the dam, her business failed.
Hence, payback.
"This 1970s DWI arrest story is going to be the end of Dubya
You've forgotten who "broke" the DUI story...it was FOXNews. It was planted to make the Democrats appear desperately trying to sling dirt at Bush at the last minute over something that happened 25 years earlier.
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Denver 14
Buffalo 7
And fuck Bush
BEER ME!
It is becoming increasingly evident that the GOP desires nothing less than the suspension of the constitution, a one party state and the end of democracy in the United States. All that stuff just gets in their way.
Problem with a one time pad is that both ends have to have it. The code is unbreakable by any amount of computing power as all valid messages of that length are equally likely, but you still have to somehow communicate the key.
Seriously, Boosh has killed more americans than Osama. Does that mean we the people can spy on him extralegally?
"Welcome to the family, Jack. *mumble mumble mumble mrmf*"
Grrr...
Nothing can derail this guy.
it's not bush, that fool could not withstand Cindy Sheehan, it's the real powers that keep him propped up that and the 30%diots who cannot derail their belief that they are being represented and/or were just duped...
Agent
" Bush doesn't care who leaked this. They may already know."
I really need to sit down tomorrow and go through it all again, I presume there is a transcript of the speech now somewhere. In my thinking, it diesn't matter if he cares about it or not. Is there a firm sequence of events and statements that catch this guy in a bald faced lie?
gun. shoot door open.
Jeez watertiger you nailed it. She did it!
Who are you going to hate in '08?
Wycliffe | 12.17.05 - 10:48 pm | #
i'll still hate bush in '08.
and '09, and '10, and '11 .....
the debacle of his administration will haunt us all for decades.
You are an idiot. And a liar. Who are you going to hate in '08?
Wycliffe
That's nice, dear.
Go take your meds now.
"Trust me -- if I had a nickel for every story I thought was going to bring down George W. Bush, I could probably qualify for one of his tax cuts. He's Rasputin. He's Michael Myers in the Halloween movies. Nothing can derail this guy.
Andrew | Email | 12.17.05 - 10:44 pm | # "
Quick, somebody call Jamie Lee Curtis and tell her to take him out.
So where did grandma and blood boy meet?
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I trust George W. Bush to keep us safe from the terrorists who want to take away our way of life.
We need to support everything Mr. Bush does, as he is the only one who can protect us.
Quit hating America and either love it or leave it.
Pro-Fascist
Definitely a parody troll.
Jeez watertiger you nailed it. She did it!
It's a bad habit of mine. 
If I were Fitzgarld I would assume my phones have been tapped with Rove recording every word.
Speaking of Turdblossom, Wolcott is directing readers to this Counterpunch column claiming Fitzy may have busted Rover destroying evidence:
As Wolcott said, please, please let this be true
Has to be a parody.
Who would call themselves "pro Fascist"?
That's like calling yourself "Pro Pedophilia."
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 10:38 pm | #
You don't have to respond every troll every single time they post.
You are so incredibly annoying.
you still have to somehow communicate the key.
I'm pretty sure that fitz and his team still do lunch. It's a good time to pass on a copy of the Davenport 1953 phone book or a matching out of print translation of Russian fairy tales.
If somehow found with these, they are boring enough to be ignorned.
So where did grandma and blood boy meet?
I think Blood Boy is actually some kind of composite of all her victims, and today is Dead People Getting Revenge On Their Killers Day.
The code is unbreakable by any amount of computing power as all valid messages of that length are equally likely, but you still have to somehow communicate the key.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Email | 12.17.05 - 10:49 pm | #
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i have a little gadget from RSA. it generates a new key every 30 seconds to match the one on the other end.
Hello fellow non-wankers.
Just got back from King Kong.
Awesome!
I'd like to see Kong cockpunch the Chimp.
I used to answer the phone "Fuck Nixon!"
Until my mom persuaded me to "modify" it to "Impeach Nixon."
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 10:45 pm | #
my brother used to answer the phone "my father campaigned for goldwater!"
a very dysfunctional family.
too late, the nightmares return.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
And fuck Bush with a white hot poker.
it's not bush, that fool could not withstand Cindy Sheehan, it's the real powers that keep him propped up that and the 30%diots who cannot derail their belief that they are being represented and/or were just duped...
And it's the well-educated Manhattan Institute types who voted for Bush simply to spite their Pacifica-listening neighbors on the Upper West Side.
I went to a garden party, to reminisce with some dead friends
A chance to share some rotting flesh and kill the living again
When I got to the garden party, they all looked real lame
No one recognized me, I didn't look the same
But it's alright now, I've learned my lesson well
You see ya can't kill everyone, so you'll have to kill yourself
I trust George W. Bush to keep us safe from the terrorists who want to take away our way of life.
We need to support everything Mr. Bush does, as he is the only one who can protect us.
Quit hating America and either love it or leave it.
Pro-Fascist | Email | 12.17.05 - 10:47 pm | #
The only one who can protect us? Are you really as stupid as you sound? Fucking trolls.
Trust me -- if I had a nickel for every story that Atrios wrote 3 obscenity laden Anti-Bush sentences on which he thought would help bring down George W. Bush, I could probably buy one of Ted (The Drowner) Kennedy's houses.
You don't have to respond every troll every single time they post.
You are so incredibly annoying.
Help me out here people
Er, who died and made YOU the boss of the blog?
Here. A a moment NOT about Bush.
watertiger
KITTTTIIIEEESSSS!!!!
Oh -- had a plushy moment there.
And fuck Bush with a white hot poker.
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 10:52 pm | #
How original!
This movie is actually a step above the usual SciFi fare. Which is to say say it's three steps below a good movie.
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Did the Patriot Act give the White House the right to disclose the identity of an undercover CIA operative?
No. But this whole bruhaha will take a lot of the sheen off the indictment of Rove. Fitzmas is sure to come next week but the blogosphere will be neutralized because of this spy story which will be a non-story as soon as the Patriot Act plug is pulled. The big story will be the right pointing and laughing about how the moonbats have been had again.
Is there a firm sequence of events and statements that catch this guy in a bald faced lie?
EkCenTriK
I know I'm repeating myself but you'll learn a lot from the FOXNews circle jerk and Tweety tomorrow morning.
Then go back and read the transcript (CNN and Yahoo have it).
So the President lies to protect Americans, his base will buy it.
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Aaa. I can't type tonight, I spilled sugar all over the kitchen counter, my focus is completely shot.
Maybe more tea will help. Or some gin.
I went to a garden party, to reminisce with some dead friends
- i had the original on 8-track, used to play it in my ford falcon!
And fuck Bush with a white hot poker.
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 10:52 pm | #
How original!
Help me out here people
Fuck off!
Ronald Reagan said, "I know it's hard to understand, but sometimes painful things like this happen. It's all part of the process of exploration and discovery. It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them.
"I've always had great faith in and respect for our space program. And what happened today does nothing to diminish it. We don't hide our space program. We don't keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That's the way freedom is, and we wouldn't change it for a minute."
Somebody's pissed on Reagan's grave.
This movie really does seem like it's had large chunks edited out, doesn't it...
They had the tools to do it all legally but didn't, and it doesn't make sense why they wouldn't unless they deliberately went outside the FISA system in place because they didn't want FISA to know what they were doing.
let's see, rove and cheney with cart blanche over domestic surveillance and they didn't share their plans with the judiciary- i am sure they were circumspect in there application
WE MUST ALL LOVE BUSH.
Merkin Patriot
Ah ha. So... How specifically should we "love" him? Fries? Bed of spring lettuce, with pickle 'n garni and a side of Slaw? Red wine or white?
I favor loving him as a failed, paranoid, delusional, retributive loser who projects twisted internalized sociopathic conflicts through as much of the machinery of government as he can influence.
Every real or imagined insult, every unassimilated exchange with his internalized totalitarian parents, will be forced on a helpless and defenseless population, until it collapses.
He loves himself in that role. He's so fucking good at it.
Oh fuck Daryl,
Reagan pissed on the constitution too for Christ's sake.
i had the original on 8-track, used to play it in my ford falcon!
I believe the appropriate meta-reference would be: HA-ha!
I don't hate America.
I hate Bush.
Big difference.
Bush is NOT America.
It's apparent that some of you will never learn what is going on and will continue to think that elections, letters to the editor, and blogs will change what is happening in America and around the world.
I've learned. I know who is in charge of the world, and it is NOT "We the People."
The US Constitution is irrelevant.
The sooner you accept it, the better off you will be.
I just had a happy, albeit completely far-fetched, thought:
Wouldn't it be nice if Bush resigned tomorrow night?
watertiger
I have a very nice bottle of champagne in the fridge I was going to drink the night Kerry beat bush. It's still in there, but now I'm saving it for whenever that piece of SHIT leaves the White House for the last time...it's going to be so sweet to finally pop that cork...
Darryl Pearce , why don't you keep quotin' Reagan? You'll get to a bunch of stuff real quick, which will piss off most of the nutbags who live here.
his spy story which will be a non-story as soon as the Patriot Act plug is pulled.
um, i think you are making a fundamental mistake. the patriot act did not authorize warrentless surveillence. in fact, it made it so easy to do it within the law that the question of why shrubby bypassed fisa is even more interesting.
Bob Dylan shocked his fans 40 years ago by embracing the electric guitar. Now he's stunning a few more by embracing another technological innovation: satellite radio.
The singer has signed on to serve as host of a weekly one-hour program on XM Satellite Radio, spinning records and offering commentary on new music and other topics, starting in March. The famously reclusive 64-year-old performer said in a statement yesterday that "a lot of my own songs have been played on the radio, but this is the first time I've ever been on the other side of the mike.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/1...5070&
oref=login
WE MUST ALL LOVE BUSH.
Merkin Patriot
Ah ha. So... How specifically should we "love" him? Fries? Bed of spring lettuce, with pickle 'n garni and a side of Slaw? Red wine or white?
I'd rather have Xian baby.
More tender!
Yeah, things are pretty bad when I've got to quote REAGAN to try and argue against Bush.
But the one constant has been Cheney-Rumsfeld since Nixon's day....
Marcia - I'd go with the Beefeater or the Bombay Sapphire, unless you mean tea in the Beatnik sense.
This movie really does seem like it's had large chunks edited out
That's so the viewers have room to spew their own chunks.
Just got back from King Kong.
YAY! Glad ya liked it!
It's still in there, but now I'm saving it for whenever that piece of SHIT leaves the White House for the last time...it's going to be so sweet to finally pop that cork...
Kinda depends on who or what replaces him, now dunnit?
irrelevant
I don't hate America.
I hate Bush.
Big difference.
Bush is NOT America.
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 10:56 pm | #
Just because you have a keyboard in front of doesn't mean you need to use it.
Do you understand that?
Oh, and BTW, Helen's gonna drown in the dam.
This movie is actually a step above the usual SciFi fare. Which is to say say it's three steps below a good movie....
And I got confused there for a bit- now that is pathetic...
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the posts get so loopy they don't even merit a response
This movie is actually a step above the usual SciFi fare. Which is to say say it's three steps below a good movie.
Does that mean I should watch it?
Eli? WT?
The sooner you accept it, the better off you will be.
Pro-Fascist
Come into the cage with the Panda, little one, and I'll show you exactly how "playful" and "comical" Pandas can be when they're really pissed off...
Just because you have a keyboard in front of doesn't mean you need to use it.
Do you understand that?
Help me out here people '
Looks as though AnalAnnieAsshole is back with us.
Okay, maybe not.
Who would call themselves "pro Fascist"?
That's like calling yourself "Pro Pedophilia."
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat
Hey, most of them are now "pro-torture." Why shouldn't they say they're pro-fascist?
I know who is in charge of the world, and it is NOT "We the People."
He's like albert without the humor and charm.
"I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing."
-- Daniel Webster
don't say we weren't warned.
Agents' visit chills UMass Dartmouth senior
By AARON NICODEMUS
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
Two history professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and Robert Pontbriand, said the student told them he requested the book through the UMass Dartmouth library's interlibrary loan program.
The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for Professor Pontbriand's class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number. He was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said.
The professors said the student was told by the agents that the book is on a "watch list," and that his background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further.
"I tell my students to go to the direct source, and so he asked for the official Peking version of the book," Professor Pontbriand said. "Apparently, the Department of Homeland Security is monitoring inter-library loans, because that's what triggered the visit, as I understand it."
Although The Standard-Times knows the name of the student, he is not coming forward because he fears repercussions should his name become public. He has not spoken to The Standard-Times.
The professors had been asked to comment on a report that President Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to spy on as many as 500 people at any given time since 2002 in this country.
The eavesdropping was apparently done without warrants.
The Little Red Book, is a collection of quotations and speech excerpts from Chinese leader Mao Tse-Tung.
In the 1950s and '60s, during the Cultural Revolution in China, it was required reading. Although there are abridged versions available, the student asked for a version translated directly from the original book.
The student told Professor Pontbriand and Dr. Williams that the Homeland Security agents told him the book was on a "watch list." They brought the book with them, but did not leave it with the student, the professors said.
Dr. Williams said in his research, he regularly contacts people in Afghanistan, Chechnya and other Muslim hot spots, and suspects that some of his calls are monitored.
"My instinct is that there is a lot more monitoring than we think," he said.
Dr. Williams said he had been planning to offer a course on terrorism next semester, but is reconsidering, because it might put his students at risk.
"I shudder to think of all the students I've had monitoring al-Qaeda Web sites, what the government must think of that," he said. "Mao Tse-Tung is completely harmless.
doug, I'm looking forward to hearing what the heck Dylan listens to these days.
Another embarrassing moment for the WH...
Aaa. I can't type tonight, I spilled sugar all over the kitchen counter, my focus is completely shot.
Did you get any writing done?
If not, have a martini, get some sleep and start fresh tomorrow.
No staying up late flirting with Eli.
the patriot act did not authorize warrentless surveillence
The Patriot Act did authorize Bush to do anything he wanted with respect to AQ.
More tender!
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat
Hee hee hee.
I'm looking forward to hearing what the heck Dylan listens to these days.
rev.paperboy it's why I posted it though it has zero relevence to anything but that.
Does that mean I should watch it?
Let me think about it for a second no.
I've spent a lot of time wondering if our trolls and much of the wankosphere are idiots or liars. Some, certainly, are idiots, but some are obviously smarter than that. One of our previous chew toys finally came out and admitted that he was, in fact, full of shit most of the time. Lying in service of a noble cause and all that.
Does that mean I should watch it?
Eli? WT?
I'd say yes. But it does have an unfortunate tendency to omit stuff, or mumble lines that are pivotal to the plot, so good luck figuring out what's going on.
Have all the Xians retired for the night?
Darryl Pearce , why don't you keep quotin' Reagan?
how about this one:
"Man is not free unless government is limited."
"The Patriot Act did authorize Bush to do anything he wanted with respect to AQ."
Sadly, AQ doesn't exist.
No staying up late flirting with Eli.
Dammit, woman!!!
I'd go with the Beefeater or the Bombay Sapphire, unless you mean tea in the Beatnik sense.
rev.paperboy
No, I mean the fine and healthy green tea. Although with my current state of manual dexterity, I may put myself in the hospital trying to make it.
And the cats are no help at all...
Judging by IMDB this flick was cut.
.
What.
The.
Fuck.
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
Guaranteed troll response:
"If the kid wanted a copy of Mao's little red book, he could've asked any of his college professors. They're all commies anyway."
Now blood boy killing blood boy??!?!?!?!
what a world!!!!!
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WTF was with that ending?
Sadly, AQ doesn't exist.
Revlonation Chapter 13 |
And there in lies the rub.
Judging by IMDB this flick was cut.
hardly 8".
I know who is in charge of the world, and it is NOT "We the People."
good thing he knows
Eli
Who the heck was that that took the kid out?
Judging by IMDB this flick was cut.
Very, very badly.
That was one of the more incoherent movies I've ever seen.
Who the heck was that that took the kid out?
Fuck if I know. Just seemed random & gratuitous, or else they're setting up a sequel...
WTF? The only thing worse than two blood boys would be Dennis Miller and Corey Feldman fighting vampire hookers. Thank Wodan that won't happen!
The Patriot Act did authorize Bush to do anything he wanted with respect to AQ.
markers make
well, not "anything he wanted." that's overstating it, and that isn't easy to do.
but not secret surveillence of US citizens. it only had provisions to make it easier. so again, why circumvent those provisions?
that's why the "list" is so important. not that he spied, but who he spied ON. face it, he could have gotten warrents on ANYONE he wanted to. there is just no reason to avoid it, except for the purpose of avoidance.
I trust and support President Bush.
We are at war and fighting a vicious enemy that will stop at nothing at killing us innocent Americans. We need a strong, assertive leader like President Bush to help us win this war on global terror.
There's a new order in charge of the world. Learn to love it.
Darryl Pearce , why don't you keep quotin' Reagan?
how about this one:
"Man is not free unless government is limited."
dirk gently, sociopathetic
and trees cause air pollution.
I've spent a lot of time wondering if our trolls and much of the wankosphere are idiots or liars. Some, certainly, are idiots, but some are obviously smarter than that. One of our previous chew toys finally came out and admitted that he was, in fact, full of shit most of the time. Lying in service of a noble cause and all that.
They are the tweakers, A-man.
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The sooner you accept it, the better off you will be.
Neo, is that you hows Dogstar?
No staying up late flirting with Eli.
Dammit, woman!!!
Eli
She has papers to write. And you're a distraction.
Spork:
I have one 'no' and one 'yes' on the movie -- you're the deciding vote....
midgets already?
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"Lying in service of a noble cause"?
that's being a tool, plain & simple.
Did you get any writing done?
flory
Probably
If not, have a martini, get some sleep and start fresh tomorrow.
I don't actually have anything to drink. Except the dangerous tea.
No staying up late flirting with Eli.
You're not the boss of me!
or else they're setting up a sequel...
NOOOOOOO.......!!!!!!
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Okay that was a freaky script addition then.
Just because you have a keyboard in front of doesn't mean you need to use it. Do you understand that?
Even a Panda knows that in an alleged Democracy, we can use our keyboards -- whether you're Susan Sontag, or a moron like yourself.
We have the right to do so. In some cases, we have the obligation to use our keyboards. Particularly when encountering fascisim.
Does that help you out, there? Or do you need another enema bottle?
marcia, marcia, marcia - whathca drinkin?
guiness and cider here.
Fuck if I know. Just seemed random & gratuitous, or else they're setting up a sequel...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't get that.
And what the hell was up with the old lady? her husband and daughter got killed so she started killing people? was that it?
Weak.
I've spent a lot of time wondering if our trolls and much of the wankosphere are idiots or liars. Some, certainly, are idiots, but some are obviously smarter than that. One of our previous chew toys finally came out and admitted that he was, in fact, full of shit most of the time. Lying in service of a noble cause and all that.
Atrios
We got one downstairs screaming about another troll being banned.
I have no idea what he's talking about.
Okay that was a freaky script addition then.
Really the costume guys had come up with that guy so they had to shoot the scene.
flory writes:
I have one 'no' and one 'yes' on the movie -- you're the deciding vote....
If you're really bored then "yes". But you could read a book or a magazine of get some cleaning done.
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...us innocent Americans.
The Cherokee might have something to say about that.
Please don't feed the trolls
Guaranteed troll response:
"If the kid wanted a copy of Mao's little red book, he could've asked any of his college professors. They're all commies anyway."
Andrew
I'm betting they don't even know who George Orwell is.
I'll probobly celebrate with what I'm drinking right now, a tall cup of strong coffee. Oddy enough though my diet is restricted to not much these days, my coffee intake is not restricted at all.
What am I eating and drinking?
No fiber unless it's been blasted to microscopic size in a blender,
well mixed smoothies are OK.
yogurt without any fruit.
a little meat (doc said 4oz or less per meal) some white bread, and lots of liquid.
no vegetables unless well over cooked or they are mushy canned ones.
No fresh vegetables ever.
So, I'll toast a resignation with a tall glass of OJ.
You're not the boss of me!
You tell her!
And what the hell was up with the old lady? her husband and daughter got killed so she started killing people? was that it?
Yah, I think so. Tigre seemed to understand it, but it went right over my head. Something about "outsiders".
guiness and cider here.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Tea. And I'm not particularly happy about it...
and trees cause air pollution.
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 11:06 pm | #
heh heh. yeah, he was a monumental wanker. but he was also a master of pithy quotes, and some of them are worth repeating.
like "trust, but verify." not that i trust bushco as far as i could kick them, but i like the verify bit.
Tea. And I'm not particularly happy about it...
Marcia Brady ∞ | 12.17.05 - 11:09 pm | #
share and enjoy!
A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
Well that's pretty fucking scary.
Hey, Secret Police, I own my very own copy of the "Little Red book", and I've also traveled outside the USA (which is where I picked up my copy).
their stupidity is only a cry for attention
Editoress, that is scary just plain scary. I don't think the Chinese police are dogging anyone's step for reading Licoln bios
Ok midget playing with satanic-raisins now on Sci Fi...
I have no idea what that movie was about. Since it's on DVD maybe the uncut version makes more sense. Or not.
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I've spent a lot of time wondering if our trolls and much of the wankosphere are idiots or liars.
I can understand the general public that rely on the mass media and barely follow politics anyway not quite getting what BushCo are doing. But the trolls here are well aware what's going on and what the issues are - they simply choose to be against freedom and democracy. They really are consciously choosing to follow evil and to fight against our country's principles.
I've spent a lot of time wondering if our trolls and much of the wankosphere are idiots or liars.
Some of them are both.
But I can tell you that the bush worship of some of them is real. I see it all the time here in Texas.
It's both weird and frightening.
"One and one is two
Two and two is four.
I feel so bad
Cuz I'm losing the war."
- Chimpy
(a tip of the hat to "The Producers")
Evening, Moonbats:
The thing is, the more they protest, the more they know they are fucked.
Good.
No fiber unless it's been blasted to microscopic size in a blender,
well mixed smoothies are OK.
yogurt without any fruit.
a little meat (doc said 4oz or less per meal) some white bread, and lots of liquid.
i see nothing prohibiting vodka, so it's not all bad.
can tell you that the bush worship of some of them is real. I see it all the time here in Texas.
It's both weird and frightening.
four legs good
And completely baffling.
The only thing more annoying than the trolls are those saying 'don't respond to the trolls.'
Sheesh. Let people do what they want, if for nothing else, just to let lurkers see the trolls being challenged.
Now, scroll with me....
And I have Qadaffi's Little Green Book plus the Anarchist's handbook. Not to mention some commie writings by Orwell.
Workers of all countries, unite!
Hey, what's Ann Coulter doing on Sci Fi?
i see nothing prohibiting vodka, so it's not all bad.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Vodka makes me queasy. My stomach remembers my 16th birthday better than I do.
like "trust, but verify." not that i trust bushco as far as i could kick them, but i like the verify bit.
The Bushies have a very similar motto: "Trash, but vilify."
i see nothing prohibiting vodka, so it's not all bad.
they got me off the antibiotic that had an antibuse effect, and I've read all of the counter indications for the new ones.
Nope nothing about alchol. Interesting...
heh heh. yeah, he was a monumental wanker. but he was also a master of pithy quotes, and some of them are worth repeating.
like "trust, but verify." not that i trust bushco as far as i could kick them, but i like the verify bit.
And when he would recite old movie scenes as if they were something that had actually happened.... you just had to love the poor old demented fool.......
dirk gently, sociopathetic
St. Ronald of the Monster Deficit looks like a MENSA candidate next to Bush!
Hey, what's Ann Coulter doing on Sci Fi?
watertiger
See, now that's the only place I would put her...
And when he would recite old movie scenes as if they were something that had actually happened.... you just had to love the poor old demented fool.......
Keystone Blues
Well, let's NOT get carried away here!
So, I'll toast a resignation with a tall glass of OJ.
doug, smelly bastard
If you don't mind my asking -- what do you have that you can't eat vegetables?
Hey, what's Ann Coulter doing on Sci Fi?
Finally being her true self?
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The Bushies have a very similar motto: "Trash, but vilify."
Eli
I think Barbara has that on a tank top...
"head. Something about "outsiders".
Eli"
Oh that was the sequel eh? Ralph Macchio must have the Kid in Blood.
"Fewer and better troops and simpler administration." Talks, speeches,articles, andresolutions should all be concide and to the point. Meetings also should not go on too long."
How was dinner, dirk. You weren't being unfaithful to me with that wife of yours, were you?
And when he would recite old movie scenes as if they were something that had actually happened.... you just had to love the poor old demented fool.......
Keystone Blues | Email | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 11:13 pm | #
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St. Ronald of the Monster Deficit looks like a MENSA candidate next to Bush!
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 11:13 pm | #
holy crap. we actually MISS reagan. comparitively speaking, of course.
if only nixon were still around.
either of them at least accomplished SOME things. unlike the wanler in chief.
worst.
president.
ever.
Learn to love it.
Yes. Embrace the subjugation of those you don't like. Revel in the almost sexual feelings of power to deny, repress, to hurt anyone you want to.
Yes P-Fascist; you're finally free of feelings that (in the "old" world) -- you were inadequate, 'held back' by -- yes, by a conspiracy of liberals, secularists, 'intellectuals'; Jews, Blacks, Immigrants. Now you can teach them a lesson they'll never forget. And you feel so strong; so vital and alive. You can do anything. You tell yourself you're finally safe.
That's when you'll commit your first murder, P-Fascist. In the 'old world', the police would be pulling bodies out of the crawlspace of your dingy home.
So, how is everyone doing in the War Against Christmas?
Past time for a second American Revolution against King George. Let's get the French to help and keep yer powder dry.
How was dinner, dirk. You weren't being unfaithful to me with that wife of yours, were you?
Marcia Brady ∞ | 12.17.05 - 11:16 pm | #
not yet - but now that you mention it, she went up for a bath a half hour ago... i should really be heading up.
dinner was burgers and beer, light on the burger. not my usual fare, but hey, it's saturday.
Though I disagreed with about 90% of his policies, at least Ronnie Raygun was at heart charming.
He reminded me of a long dead great uncle who I knew was full of shit before I spoke enough english to articulate this. Neverless, we had some grand arguments till he finally passed away from Parkinsons disease. I miss him very much.
Let's get the French to help and keep yer powder dry.
Lafayette, we are here!
if only nixon were still around.
either of them at least accomplished SOME things. unlike the wanler in chief.
worst.
president.
ever.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Nixon did.
I thought Reagan was waste of time and space.
He was all for the rich and the military - fuck everyone else.
And how many in his administration were indicted?????????
Bah! Fuck the Broncos.
The only thing more annoying than the trolls are those saying 'don't respond to the trolls.'
Sheesh. Let people do what they want, if for nothing else, just to let lurkers see the trolls being challenged.
Now, scroll with me....
S in Mich | 12.17.05 - 11:12 pm | #
well, sorry
I think Barbara has that on a tank top...
Marcia Brady ∞
why, why say such a thing?
So, how is everyone doing in the War Against Christmas?
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 11:16 pm | #
i put up my holiday tree today.
Lafayette, we are here!
JeffCO
I'm betting the majority of Bush's supporters never heard of HIM, either!
Bah! Fuck the Broncos.
Would you settle for a Shanahand job?
So, how is everyone doing in the War Against Christmas?
I ate a Virgin Mary peep.
So, how is everyone doing in the War Against Christmas?
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 11:16 pm | #
i put up my holiday tree today.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Me, too!
Well, I was posting on a dead thread...
Speaking of the War on Xmas, gotta kick out of this:
A group of religious protesters demonstrated outside a Wal-Mart superstore Saturday, hoping to turn away customers by calling attention to the retailer's decision to use "happy holidays" rather than "merry Christmas" in its seasonal advertising.
But even shoppers who agreed with the protesters weren't willing to interrupt their quest for holiday deals.
"I believe in Christ, and I don't like the use of 'xmas' or the use of 'happy holidays,'" said Steven Van Noy, 39, as he left the store loaded down with packages. "The bottom line is that they had what I needed at Wal-Mart, so I went to Wal-Mart to buy it."
Shorter moronic brownshirt fuck: Jesus is great and all, but I dearly love my cheap plastic crap assembled by Chinese slave labor!
(BTW, did I mention I won't patronize any store that doesn't greet me with a hearty "Io, Saturnalia"? A man's gotta have his principles...)
I found absolutlely nothing charming about Reagan. He was an imbecilic son of a bitch. I never hated any poltician more till this whiny titty baby came along with his smirk and contempt for America
Fuck WalMart.
what do you have that you can't eat vegetables?
flory a very bad inflamed divirticulum. I'm probobly going under the knife right after Xmas, but the doc thinks he can clean up the infection by keeping me on antibiotics (the WBC finally is staying at or near normal counts.) so that when he snips this out they will have a clean enough field to work on that they can do the operation in one shot.
I found absolutlely nothing charming about Reagan. He was an imbecilic son of a bitch. I never hated any poltician more till this whiny titty baby came along with his smirk and contempt for America
DWD - Chronicler of Evil
I disliked Nixon.
I despised Reagan.
I detested Bush I.
I HATE this son of a bitch!
So, how is everyone doing in the War Against Christmas?
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat
I have followed my usual policy of utterly ignoring the holiday until around the 23rd. Then I buy my dad a DVD and call it a holiday.
why, why say such a thing?
focus
I want to share the pain. Can't you just see her with her red lipstick and pearls in a little, spaghetti-strapped tank with "Trash, but vilify" stretched out across the front?
if only nixon were still around.
At the very least Nixon had a brain. Remember David Frost interviewed him for something like 17 hours on virtually every topic imaginable. Regardless of his spin Nixon was conversant on it all.
Can you imagine George W Bush talking about anything for 17 hours with a video record of the conversation. I think even his most die hard supporters would finally see him as the village idiot and mascot he really is.
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I thought Reagan was waste of time and space.
pretty much. he did stay out of the way when the wall fell, and avoided starting a nuke holocost even though he really, REALLY wanted to (remember the spitting image video?)
toward the end he was just kind of a fumbling jolly wanker who made people feel good. you didn't have the kind of partisan hatred that is the hallmark of bushco. and at least one of his kids turned out ok.
The FOXNews cabal, Tweety and the others should be especially insufferable tomorrow morning.
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Agent Orange
-Betcha Timmeh either does not talk about Bush Administration spying on the American people or he downplays it to spin positive for the Bush Administration.
...and Bush Administration members get softball questions, if any are on Beat The Dems...uh, Meet The Press. 
So, how is everyone doing in the War Against Christmas?
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat | 12.17.05 - 11:16 pm | #
i put up my holiday tree today.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
I have my holiday ornaments up, but no holiday tree. Is that better or worser than having a holiday tree?
and at least one of his kids turned out ok.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
I LIKE Ron, Jr.
Patti isn't so bad.
Michael....well, the WRONG sibling died.
Late to the thread...
How long before you can toss that brainless fuckwit out of office? I keep thinking he can't get any worse, and then he does. How long can it go on?
Worst president ever. Dumbest thing to ever sit in the oval office. Frightening that he was able to attain the position.
Feliz Navidad. Heh.
they can do the operation in one shot.
doug, smelly bastard
Yikes, doug, I hope you'll be well.
I have my holiday ornaments up, but no holiday tree. Is that better or worser than having a holiday tree?
flory
Whatever YOU choose to do.
Though I disagreed with about 90% of his policies, at least Ronnie Raygun was at heart charming.
The only "charming" thing about him was, by the time he became president, he was absolutely, positively brain dead.
For his true personality, see his career as governor of California - a string of brownshirt wet dreams: "If they want a bloodbath, let's get it over with"; "if you've seen one tree, you've seen them all," etc etc etc... all delivered with that nasty snarl he used to such good effect in "The Killers"...
I never liked Reagan, and I disliked Bush I, but I'd be very happy if either one of them were President tomorrow instead of George Worst President Ever Bush.
I found absolutlely nothing charming about Reagan. He was an imbecilic son of a bitch. I never hated any poltician more till this whiny titty baby came along with his smirk and contempt for America
DWD
I thought Reagan was embarrassing. I couldn't believe people actually bought his act.
I didn't know what embarrassing was til Chimpy came along.
How long before you can toss that brainless fuckwit out of office? I keep thinking he can't get any worse, and then he does. How long can it go on?
Worst president ever. Dumbest thing to ever sit in the oval office. Frightening that he was able to attain the position.
Abiel
Chimpy ALWAYS lives down to my expectations.
I hated Reagan's rouge. He looked like a decrepit 18th century liberine.
They really are consciously choosing to follow evil and to fight against our country's principles.
Precisely. If your cause is such that you have to knowingly lie and misrespresent the truth on a consistent basis, that cause is morally bankrupt.
during reagan's reign i used to literally wake up in a cold sweat believing if i looked out the window i'd see mushroom clouds in the distance. it was a relief when his mind finally went completely and he was no longer a danger.
nixon was an evil old fuck, but he did champion some good environmental initiatives, and break the china barrier. his motives may have sucked, but they were good things to do.
I'm hardly a tree-hugger (I happen to love my wood and paper products), but I disapprove of Christmas trees. And Holiday Trees. I see no good reason to kill a tree just so you can decorate your house for a few weeks, then toss it out with the trash. I think it's seeing them tossed out on the sidewalk for the garbage men to pick up that really bothers me. I do, however, fully endorse fake plastic Christmas trees.
doug -- sounds painful.
But as others have pointed out, at least booze isn't on the prohibited list.
Good luck with the surgery.
I liked it when Raisa Gorbatchev bashed Nancy.
The only "charming" thing about him was, by the time he became president, he was absolutely, positively brain dead.
He was no better a president than he was an actor...and sucked at that.
The late, great Bette Davis referred to him as a glorified chorus boy.
She was disgusted that he got elected president.
I have my holiday ornaments up, but no holiday tree. Is that better or worser than having a holiday tree?
flory |
i don't have any holiday ornaments on my holiday tree yet.
dirk, and I honestly can't think of one good thing W. has done.
No Child Left Behind? Not so much.
Afghanistan? Short attention span.
BTW Has Novakula made his FOXNews debut yet? Tomorrow morning would be especially poignant being that he announced he thought Bush knows who the Plame leakers are (is).
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I hope you'll be well.
I felt well enough to drive up to Missoula today with my wife and wander around a bunch of stores. I was feeling a bit wimpy for a bit, but a tall smoothie from Orange julius, brought me enough liquid and fruit to make the rest of the day enjoyable. Actually even when I was in the hospital, all of the indications beside the wbc indicated that I was just being a slacker. The nurses noted that except for when I was sleeping I was trundling around the hospital with my slippers and the so elegant tie in the back hospital gown.
Frightening that he was able to attain the position.
Even more frightening that he was able to retain it, even after 4 years of deadly lies and fuckups.
I want to share the pain. Can't you just see her with her red lipstick and pearls in a little, spaghetti-strapped tank with "Trash, but vilify" stretched out across the front?
Marcia Brady
That was really, really evil.
-Betcha Timmeh either does not talk about Bush Administration spying on the American people or he downplays it to spin positive for the Bush Administration.
a step above tweety, who is prbably sniffing his presidential towel and expending 90% of his time balancing his editorials with fair comment of dems negativity shaped by why not spy questions and fake scenarios?
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Oh my, check out the header of MSNBC!
I liked it when Raisa Gorbachov bashed Nancy.
Nûr al-Cubicle
Dragon Lady Nancy was SO jealous of her.
Because Raisa made it on her own and didn't need to hook on to some man's coattails.
dirk, and I honestly can't think of one good thing W. has done.
No Child Left Behind? Not so much.
Afghanistan? Short attention span.
Marcia Brady ∞
I want the fundie fucks like Robertson and Falwell to tell me again how "blessed" this nation is.
Bush has brought nothing but misery to this country!
Let's all practice our spelling now Bats.
Can you spell I-M-P-E-A-C-H-M-E-N-T?
just a drive-by - impeach bush. worst president ever, don't feed the trolls...
doug, sorry to hear about your guts. my wife had the same condition; they removed 18 cm of intestine. that sucked, but it cleared everything up. i hope it goes as well for you.
night bats.
and I honestly can't think of one good thing W. has done.
me either. i keep asking, even the trolls can't come up with anything.
because there isn't anything. he is a total miserable fucking failure.
speaking of which, i'm drunk and headed for bed. night, all.
Gee, that's not Robert Culp in that I Spy image.
No way am I watching Bordello of Blood.
nixon was an evil old fuck, but he did champion some good environmental initiatives, and break the china barrier. his motives may have sucked, but they were good things to do.
One other item. He proposed (though it was shot down by the Congress) a national health care insurance system.
In some senses Nixon was as HST said "so crooked that he had to be screwed him into his pants in the morning"
But in some ways in spite of his evil nature, he wanted to do good.
More than can be said about Bush.
Oh my, check out the header of MSNBC!
attaturk
Note the photo, too. Blotchy and definately unheroic. I think that the press gets kind of pissed when Bush starts attacking them.
Gee, that's not Robert Culp in that I Spy image.
No, it's Georgie Culpable.
Oh my, check out the header of MSNBC!
attaturk
Oh, THAT is GREAT!
Look the facial expression. He looks as if he just shit himself.
"Oops!"
Oh my, check out the header of MSNBC!
Holy shit!!
That's brutal.
I guess I am just older but Reagan did his best to break unions (Remember PATCO?) He hated the environment. He eviscerated school funding. He gave incredible tax breaks to the rich and in many ways is responsible for the bullshit we now have to endure.
I never got that saint ronnie shit. He was a useless tool of big business whose belief in individual freedom began and ended with your right to be a serf in the manor.
Fuck him. I am not glad he is dead, I was glad when he left office. His death does nothing for me. But I shed nary a tear
Nixon pissed me off because he was not a stupid man.
He was a lifelong member of MENSA.
He was just so paranoid!
Look the facial expression. He looks as if he just shit himself.
If he hasn't, he will soon.
This one is NOT going away.
That was really, really evil.
flory
Thank you.
America: The snooped and the surveilled.
A squirrel is a Big Mac to an owl.
Clean sheets to the north--
I guess I am just older but Reagan did his best to break unions (Remember PATCO?) He hated the environment. He eviscerated school funding. He gave incredible tax breaks to the rich and in many ways is responsible for the bullshit we now have to endure.
I never got that saint ronnie shit. He was a useless tool of big business whose belief in individual freedom began and ended with your right to be a serf in the manor.
Fuck him. I am not glad he is dead, I was glad when he left office. His death does nothing for me. But I shed nary a tear
DWD - Chronicler of Evil
Who could ever forget the way he fired the air traffic controllers????
Note the photo, too. Blotchy and definately unheroic.
The photo editors have been fucking with little georgie for a while now.
...her red lipstick and pearls in a little, spaghetti-strapped tank
that tank would be a Bradly, but still, i don't think i'll ever be able to look at another 200 year old cereal box the same way...
publishing the fact that Bush has decided he can spy on people without warrants is going to damage national security even though we already had a very public policy which allowed us to do the same by getting a warrant which didn't even have to really be gotten until 72 hours after the spying began?
That's right, since there's only a 99.9% chance (literally) that the FISA court will approve the after-the-fact warrant. King George can have no impediments, however trivial, to his desire to do whatever the fuck he wants -- the Constitution, laws, and treaties be damned.
What about those two floozies Reagan put in charge of EPA: Ann Burford and Rita Lavelle --sweetheart deals with industry, political manipulation of funds, and gutted regulatory procedures.
The photo editors have been fucking with little georgie for a while now.
No, he's been wearing those blotches, since before his first term in office.
Look the facial expression. He looks as if he just shit himself.
"Oops!"
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat
Nah, he always looks like that...
I think he thinks that's his "resolute" face.
No, he's been wearing those blotches, since before his first term in office.
doug, smelly bastard
But they always had him all airbrushed and smooth before. Now he's looking like O'Reilly on the front of Franken's book.
Anyone -- anyone -- who says that it's OK for Bush to authorize these wire-taps is basically saying that, depending on the person in charge, the situation, how they feel, they are willing to dispense with the rule of law. They are willing to subject themselves to a dictatorship because they feel OK about it.
As Benjamin Franklin said, "Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security."
These people either have lost or never had any commitment to the principles underlying the American approach to government. They don't speak for me, and they certainly don't speak for "the national interest".
Josh Marshall has the statistics on the FISA court's rubber-stamping ways:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...ives/
007280.php
Recall that Bush said in 2000 that it would be easier if we had a dictatorship, as long as he was the dictator. He's trying to set up exactly that system of government.
Look the facial expression. He looks as if he just shit himself.
"Oops!"
Terry C. Feminazi Moonbat
Nah, he always looks like that...
I think he thinks that's his "resolute" face.
Doozer
"Resolute" is smelling shit????
Note the photo, too. Blotchy and definately unheroic.
Well, he's NOT blushing, that's for sure.
The son of a bitch HAS no shame!
Bush is a lazy fuck too. That's what this is all about. Plus they are using it for reasons other than national security!
Bush is drinking again. There is a doublewide on the Brush Ranch in Crawford where the illegals used to flop while passing through. That's where he doesn't it. LBJ started smoking on that last Air Force One trip...who would begrudge the Missing Link in Chief his 40 ouncer?
The President remains steadfast in his alcoholism.
Imagine if there where a Fight Club in the old cockfighting ring in the old barn down in Crawford. Booby Woodward and George Dubya, beating the snot out of each other. Cheney gets the winner, but he will be fighting in a mansierre so that his manboobs don't flop around.
Cindy Sheehan is organizing a "Take back the Night" march on Crawford. We will make the ranch safe for cows again.
Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/
article_7779.shtml
Spy on people, or spy on people listed in the 3rd highest Al Qaeda figure's cellphone?
Moron.
Atrios is a lying criminal. And a wanker. But he supports the troops.
The schmuck put his g-ddamn greasy hand on the Bible (you know, the book he pretends to read) and swore to uphold the g-ddamn CONSTITUTION. Last time I check, the 4th amendment to the BILL OF RIGHTS is indeed-- shocker-- a part of the Constitution.
IMPEACH THE CREEP. IMPEACH THE CRIMINAL.
Let me guess: he was crossing his fingers when he made that OATH and the CONSTITUTION he was mumbling about was the Alchoholic Anonymous 12-step program charter.
F U GEORGE.
Wiretap THAT!
Cog is a Good German who would give up everyone's civil rights and jail people who disagree with his Glorious Leader. But he's not a Nazi.
Atrios hit the nail on the head. The only thing the NYT article reveals is the use of a method and it is a method that everybody already knows exists. It's not like the Times printed names of peoplw whom the NSA tapped. Bush is obviously lying.
Kick out the jams and impeach that motherfucker!
Are any reporters going to fucking ASK him the obvious question of HOW this could possibly damage our national security?
You would think the Times would defend themselves.
Wouldn't they?
Next up on 'Theatre of the Absurd'...
The Newt Gingrich Lectures on Marital Fidelity.
The Swan Song of J. Q. Public
S’io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s’i’odo il vero,
Senza tema d’infamia ti rispondo.
Let us go then,
you and I
To that green room in the sky
Where Carson's guests with trembling hand
Await the sound of Severin's band.
On the House floor
the pages come and go
talking of Duke the Cunning Ho'...
Do I dare? and Do I dare?
Do I dare to say, "Impeach?"
No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
Am an attendant lord, one that will do
To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
Deferential, glad to be of use,
Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous—
Almost, at times, the Fool.
My name is Bill Keller, and I approve this message.
Apologies to T.S. Eliot.
what must it be like to know that nearly every instinct you have is wrong and yet you persist in leading with your peanut
you guessed it...
Cog is an ass. And an illiterate one at that.
Warrants can easily be obtained to spy on communications. They don't even have to be obtained BEFORE the spying starts. As long as they are obtained within 72 hours of the spying, the spying is legal.
So why did Bush authorize illegal spying? Because he is tinpot tyrant who believes that he can do whatever the hell he wants. And damn the law and the Goddam Constitution (it is just a goddam piece of paper).
So, you see, Cog the moron, the NYT did not reveal anything that we did not know about spying WITH warrants. They just revealed that Bush committed an impeachable crime by promoting ILLEGAL spying. How that threatens our national security, I do not know.
Bush is a liar, a crook, and an incompetent, and a fascist dictator. Impeach him!
I know, Zubaydah should have the benefits of everything the American legal system can afford him. An American listed in his cellphone, caught as a direct result of the spying Bush authorized?
Nothing to see here, move along.
Fire Bush, although I would be more happy if Rumsfeld and Cheney left. But the Atrios/Kos policy of fighting a war against this non-state entity is a recipe for disaster.
If Atrios takes one incident at Guantanemo, distorts and mischaractizes to the point of absurdity, uses that distortion to discredit the entire US military, and then goes on a 3 week Hitler/Stalin accusation binge, now we should take his foreign and domestic commentary seriously?
Wrong. What you can not see, probably because you are blinded by Bush hatred, is that such exaggerations and distortions discredit any real criticisms, and real discussion of the many grave mistakes Bush and his administration have made.
Shorter Cog:
Atrios and Kos are a cancer for the Democratic party.
Even shorter Cog:
Atrios does not support the troops.
Maybe one day he will have the balls to admit it.
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