Damn. Foiled again. I would have succeded in killing Christ too if it hadn't been for you meddling kids.
SWR |
12.24.05 - 10:32 am | #
Impeach?
Fuck that...
Execute!
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka |
12.24.05 - 10:32 am | #
Bush =(drf*fw)^2
arabella |
12.24.05 - 10:32 am | #
Just in time for Christmas.
geor3ge |
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12.24.05 - 10:33 am | #
What a nice present for me!
Echidne of the snakes |
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12.24.05 - 10:34 am | #
arabella, can you translate for those of us who can only count to four?
geor3ge |
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12.24.05 - 10:34 am | #
I don't subscribe to Barron's, so can't see if this is an editorial or an op-ed by some token commie librul.
R.McGeddon |
12.24.05 - 10:35 am | #
Uh-oh, didn't have the term paper done on time again, eh?
"NEW BEDFORD -- The UMass Dartmouth student who claimed to have been visited by Homeland Security agents over his request for ''The Little Red Book'' by Mao Zedong has admitted to making up the entire story. The 22-year-old student tearfully admitted he made the story up to his history professor, Dr. Brian Glyn Williams, and his parents, after being confronted with the inconsistencies in his account."
Armando |
12.24.05 - 10:36 am | #
Fasten your seat belts - 2006 is going to be a bumpy year.
Stinky |
12.24.05 - 10:37 am | #
Bush is toast.
Put a fork in him. He is done.
Hecate Malificent |
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12.24.05 - 10:37 am | #
Hecate, how was your Solstice?
geor3ge |
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12.24.05 - 10:38 am | #
"Uh-oh, didn't have the term paper done on time again, eh?"
cool...so this means if i'm curious(i've never read it but probably should) and checked it out thru a library, the gvt won't come visit me or i won't end up on an enemies of the state list somewhere?
jdw |
12.24.05 - 10:38 am | #
Execute!
Now WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka, we've got to do things in the correct order. excecution, happens sometime after either an impeachment or (maybe better maybe worse) when the impeachment happens and the doofus, trys to do an Andrew Jackson, ("I'm the presimedent, and you can't make me").
Doug, It from outer space |
12.24.05 - 10:38 am | #
Some ancillary responsibility, however, must be attached to those members of the House and Senate who were informed, inadequately, about the wiretapping and did nothing to regulate it.
Let's do Chimpy first and worry about the others later.
Lime Rickey |
12.24.05 - 10:38 am | #
Here's to 2006 being a Rethug Whack-A-Mole year.
Max Planck |
12.24.05 - 10:38 am | #
It's (fw) times (drf.) Take the product and raise it the second power. Example:
2 x 3 = 6
6 x 6 = 36
At least that's how it is in the world of Excel spread sheets, assuming I got the formula right.
In other words, bush is really, really in trouble and his troubles are increasing exponetially.
arabella |
12.24.05 - 10:39 am | #
Max,
I like "Whack a Rove", myself.
He has that subterranean lifestyle look about him.
watertiger |
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12.24.05 - 10:39 am | #
Barron's?!
Perhaps the worm is turning. My not-yet SO mention that one of his card playing buddies, very much the politically inattentive sort of person who might thing Faux News is telling the truth, this buddy mentioned the 'I' word. Popular wartime president, my arse!
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
12.24.05 - 10:39 am | #
"Why are reporters so incapable of seeing what the other side does as being intentional, or, if intentional, being driven by a strategy and a purpose? They seem more content to leave it described as purpose-less chaos and violence." - Ranting Profs, 12/24
And some wonder why we don't trust the media.
Major Flap |
12.24.05 - 10:39 am | #
"Bush is toast.
Put a fork in him. He is done.
Hecate Malificent "
wish i shared your optimism...looks to me like the msm doesn't even want to use the 'i' word, they don't wanna even poll if it's appropriate, the dems are too namby-pamby to bring it up, and there will be no consequences for the repugnants to not hold hearings or whitewash them...
jdw |
12.24.05 - 10:40 am | #
I actually got the second power, but the variables lost me.
geor3ge |
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12.24.05 - 10:40 am | #
Drumbeat, drumbeat, drumbeat on the path to impeachment!
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 10:41 am | #
A liberal lawyer in Los Angeles is threatening to throw nearly three dozen homeless center residents back on the streets because of something he finds indefensible: The center's founder is a Republican and voted for President Bush."
Armando |
12.24.05 - 10:42 am | #
gepr3ge,
It was lovely; thank you for asking. And the days are starting to get longer, so that's a good thing!
Hecate Malificent |
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12.24.05 - 10:43 am | #
Typical asshat troll: provides no citation.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 10:43 am | #
Typical Lib.// Armando
Without a cite,
You must Bite
ME
Doug, It from outer space |
12.24.05 - 10:43 am | #
"Is the War on Christmas hurting stocks?"
Faux News graphic, wholly without merit. The discussion is worse than the graphic, except for that Jimmy guy, who sometimes is logical if not lucid.
-
QuentinCompson |
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12.24.05 - 10:44 am | #
from the Oakland Trib: send us your used "1984" books for lawmakers
Snip from an editorial in the Oakland Tribune:
Bush is unapologetic. The president believes he has the legal authority to spy on American citizens without a warrant, and he plans to continue to reauthorize the program "for so long as the nation faces the continuing threat of an enemy that wants to kill American citizens." But when the enemy is poorly defined, who determines when the threat is over? In this case, the same government that secretly taps our phones.
Turns out the truth is no stranger than fiction. We think it's time for Congress to heed the warning of George Orwell. To that end, we're asking for your help: Mail us or drop off your tattered copies of "1984." When we get 537 of them, we'll send them to every member of the House of Representatives and Senate and to President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.
Feel free to inscribe the book with a note, reminding these fine people that we Americans take the threat to our liberties seriously. Remind Congress that it makes no sense to fight a war for democracy in a foreign land while allowing our democratic principles to erode at home.
Remind President Bush that ours is a country of checks and balances, not unbridled power. Perhaps our nation's leaders can find some truth in this fiction and more carefully ponder the road we're traveling.
Off to the store before the pagan ritual closes down everything for the day.
Later moonbatinators.
attaturk |
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12.24.05 - 10:50 am | #
"I would be delighted to roast your chestnuts in my open fire,"
i call 'em 'jeff's nuts'.....
jdw |
12.24.05 - 10:50 am | #
Lucky me. I don't have to do a thing today. My husband and I are staying home today and tonight by ourselves having a cozy romantic Christmas Eve. We spent the smallest amount ever on Christmas this year so no financial stress. We're spending a limited amount of time with our families, so tolerable emotional stress.
When the money press starts murmuring (and we'll discount the batshit brigade of the WSJ editorial board) then it's time for the rest of the press to take it seriously.
pseudonymous in nc |
12.24.05 - 10:51 am | #
Yo, arbusto. Cherry picking horse shit as such is really cute, but it is extremely weak in light of what your government is doing in the lawbreaker department, capiche?
Billy B |
12.24.05 - 10:52 am | #
"Life is good.
arabella"
god that sounds like the perfect way to spend the day...good for you...
jdw |
12.24.05 - 10:52 am | #
i call 'em 'jeff's nuts'.....
jdw
Has a nice ring to it.
I have a friend, named Chet, and everytime I hear "Chestnuts roasting on an ...," I think "Chet's nuts roasting on an ...."
Because I'm immature like that.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 10:52 am | #
the new symbol of the Republican party, the Dodo bird. Ugly, Worthless, and soon to be extinct.
This is, by far, the clearest, best-articulated summation of the situation I have seen.
Turkee to Barron's.
Brautigan |
12.24.05 - 10:53 am | #
I guess I take my job to seriously.
Never. Higher math is not my forte, but I love the mathemetician's sense of humor.
geor3ge |
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12.24.05 - 10:54 am | #
It is important to be clear that an impeachment case, if it comes to that, would not be about wiretapping, or about a possible Constitutional right not to be wiretapped. It would be about the power of Congress to set wiretapping rules by law, and it is about the obligation of the president to follow the rules in the Acts that he and his predecessors signed into law.
Ding ding ding. I want that coming out of every elected Dem's mouth.
'Rule of law.'
Oh, sorry. There wasn't a blowjob.
pseudonymous in nc |
12.24.05 - 10:54 am | #
my brother has come home to spend a couple of days with us over the festive period.
his ladyfriend and daught (Seity) are popping round on Boxing Day
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 10:55 am | #
It's amusing when the media whores who reveled in the details of Clinton's impeachment pretend that it's something they never encountered before.
Lime Rickey |
12.24.05 - 10:55 am | #
I still am having a hard time getting over the fact that the NY Times sat on this nugget for a year.
I want Bush out of there and I want him out of there by the end of 2006.
Hecate Malificent |
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12.24.05 - 10:57 am | #
"impeachment, what's that precious?"
--Republican
Doug, It from outer space |
12.24.05 - 10:57 am | #
Vicki | Email | 12.24.05 - 10:56 am | #
You best believe "The Liberal NYT" is officially a dead meme.
geor3ge |
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12.24.05 - 10:57 am | #
"cool...so this means if i'm curious(i've never read it but probably should) and checked it out thru a library, the gvt won't come visit me or i won't end up on an enemies of the state list somewhere?"
Exactly. Our security forces have bigger fish to fry than looking out for some nitwit wasting their time reading Chairman Mao.
Armando |
12.24.05 - 10:58 am | #
Fitz is a man who believes in the rule of law. He prosecuted the mafia. He prosecuted the terrorists responsible for the 1983 WTC bombing. The terrorists were the most afraid of Fitz of all the govenment people. They said that Fitz is dangerous because he believes "in his heart" that justice must be served. We need more people like him.
Fitz embodies The Rule of Law in a way that everyone can relate to.
rule of law, rule of law, rule of law
arabella |
12.24.05 - 10:58 am | #
you can smack me if you want, but i'm glad that they called out Rockefeller for his "respectful" behavior.
n69n |
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12.24.05 - 10:59 am | #
it is about the obligation of the president to follow the rules in the Acts that he and his predecessors signed into law.
Shrub: But, but, if I have to follow these so-called "rules", I'll be just a lowly schmuck like you people. I answer to a higher authority. I thought I told you people that, already.
Max Planck |
12.24.05 - 10:59 am | #
It's been time to consider impeachment. We have a common criminal occupying the Oval Office.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.24.05 - 11:00 am | #
Our security forces have bigger fish to fry than looking out for some nitwit wasting their time reading Chairman Mao.
Stupid kid, wanting to do a report for class...
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 11:00 am | #
"This is an administration that has corroded the legal framework of American society and corrupted the legal process for its own petty and political advantage."
-- David Brooks and William Kristol
On Clinton, natch.
pseudonymous in nc |
12.24.05 - 11:00 am | #
Gee, Republicans, you know that whole lowering the bar for impeachment thing? Not looking too bright about now, is it?
Hecate Malificent |
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12.24.05 - 11:00 am | #
So, when do we declare Alito's nomination dead (it's now connected to the wiretap issue), and declare a constitutional crisis?
That designation, after all, must be officially made by the MSM before it can be accepted as real.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus |
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12.24.05 - 11:00 am | #
you can smack me if you want, but i'm glad that they called out Rockefeller for his "respectful" behavior.
Me too. He fucking abdicated his responsibility as a Senator and person of conscience, just like all those assholes who voted for the IWR.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 11:01 am | #
Shrub is able to catapult the propaganda and the Constitution in a single bound.
Max Planck |
12.24.05 - 11:03 am | #
RJM,
I hope the Dems have the ovaries to bork Alito. First, because he has no business being on the Supreme Court and, second, because it will weaken Bush even more and hurt Republicans running in '06.
We don't have a constitutional crisis. We have an unelected criminal in the WH and the constitution provides a way to get rid of him.
Hecate Malificent |
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12.24.05 - 11:03 am | #
"Strict Constructionisnm" is a phony game that some judges play when it suits them. Do not be fooled, they will abandon it just as soon as it does not meet their needs in a specific situation--and having done so they certainly will not be labeled "activist" by the "base." It is only "activism" when you do not like the outcome!
The biggest difference between "us" and "them" is that they know they are at war, and we often behave as if reason and logic are sufficient enough for our side to prevail, history has proven otherwise.
Cochise |
12.24.05 - 11:03 am | #
RMJ: now we know why Harry was nominated. I don't think she was a stalking-horse. She was the one in the Gonzales-Miers dynamic duo who the wingnuts could stomach, and was on a mission to grant imperial power to her beloved chimp.
Oh, it's time to photoshop the David painting of Napoleon crowning himself.
pseudonymous in nc |
12.24.05 - 11:04 am | #
alright, batses. off to spread holiday cheer the best way I know how.
and given that it's supposed to be sunny and 52º today, i think a long, leisurely walk back downtown, knowing that I can get on the subway if I want, may be in order.
watertiger |
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12.24.05 - 11:05 am | #
The biggest difference between "us" and "them" is that they know they are at war,
Wrong. If we don't discuss the program and the lack of authority for it, we are meeting the enemy -- in the mirror.
i'm not as highly edumacated as the some of you moon bats, but i did reference Pogo yesterday.
i hope this crisis has a resolution better than i expect it will.
charley |
12.24.05 - 11:05 am | #
We don't have a constitutional crisis. We have an unelected criminal in the WH and the constitution provides a way to get rid of him.
Actually, we do have a crisis.
In the sense that the Founders assumed that those in Congress of the president's party would follow their self-interest and vote to impeach.
This bunch of GOPpers doesn't want its decade of grifting exposed.
pseudonymous in nc |
12.24.05 - 11:05 am | #
Shrub is able to catapult the propaganda and the Constitution in a single bound.
I hope he's wearing a cape.
watertiger |
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12.24.05 - 11:06 am | #
Drive by hi!
Gotta atone for various regressions against Zapette by being commercially active and contributing to the well being of the economy...
And I really didn't even know that Barron's was still around.
Zap Rowsdower |
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12.24.05 - 11:06 am | #
Where's the kryptonite?
arabella |
12.24.05 - 11:06 am | #
OT festivus driveby to discuss in my recurring absence:
Been reading about Michael Brown and wondering why he isn't in jail. Instead,as you all probably know, his "emergency preparedness consulting business" (just him) was paid $148,000. by FEMA. to evaluate FEMA's response to Katrina. This two month project happened to be the same price as his previous annual salary. And his conclusion was that the problems were state and local government failures.
Does this remind anyone of Cheney being paid $150k (i think it was) to locate the best VP candidate to run with Bush in 2000? "Surprise! It's Me!"
impeachment's too good for them.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
12.24.05 - 11:06 am | #
"Me too. He fucking abdicated his responsibility as a Senator and person of conscience, just like all those assholes who voted for the IWR.
NTodd"
agreed, he's been useless...and he also did nothing while the goopers blew off reports about pre-war intelligence...if he's gotta go, so be it...
jdw |
12.24.05 - 11:07 am | #
Shrub is able to catapult the propaganda and the Constitution in a single bound.
I hope he's wearing a cape.
Just a codpiece.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 11:07 am | #
And a bicycle helmet.
arabella |
12.24.05 - 11:07 am | #
we are meeting the enemy -- in the mirror.
Bush is the enemy of America. The harm that he and his allies have wrought on the USA is irreparable. This country will never be united again.
xegar |
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12.24.05 - 11:08 am | #
well, THAT "Incredibles" reference just went by the wayside.
sigh.
And now, the great outdoors.
watertiger |
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12.24.05 - 11:08 am | #
old story, i know, but it still pisses me off and i don't know why it doesn't get more coverage.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
12.24.05 - 11:09 am | #
Just a codpiece.
A stuffed codpiece. Think Spinal Tap.
Good morning, moonbats. Mrs. Gummo twisted her ankle yesterday so we won't be venturing far today. But like arabella, our Festivus weekend is going to be small & romantic, so maybe no venturing will be needed...
Gummo |
12.24.05 - 11:09 am | #
old story, i know, but it still pisses me off and i don't know why it doesn't get more coverage.
When you've 2 or 3 scandals a day, some just fall by the wayside....
Gummo |
12.24.05 - 11:10 am | #
Recent e-mail intercepted by NSA...
Son, looks like you're F**ked. I burned down your ranch and your mother has changed the locks. We shipped your swing set to Baghdad. Enjoy Iraq!
My sympathies to Mrs. G. I've twisted, sprained, and broken my ankles. No fun. Hope she's feeling better soon.
Hecate Malificent |
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12.24.05 - 11:11 am | #
"This is an administration that has corroded the legal framework of American society and corrupted the legal process for its own petty and political advantage."- Bobo and Kristolnight
On Clinton, natch.-pseudonymous in nc
The only difference is that there's nothing "petty"
about about the advantages that Bush seeks.
xegar |
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12.24.05 - 11:11 am | #
Gummo - I'm sorry about your wife's ankle. At least you can have fun spoiling her a bit. A small celebration with a loved one is so lovely.
arabella |
12.24.05 - 11:12 am | #
Think Spinal Tap.
Excellent suggestion!
"This one goes to 11."
Teen LaQueefa |
12.24.05 - 11:13 am | #
Thanks, Hecate. She says to let everyone know her drinking is just fine. Which doubles as her bong hand, because she's just so versatile -- she is a Gemini, after all.
Gummo |
12.24.05 - 11:13 am | #
ok, off to do some shopping so the neices and nephews will have christmas, too.
later i'll be stuffing some stockings, if anyone (vicki?) is interested.
have a happy, batses.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
12.24.05 - 11:13 am | #
My six year old is peppering me with Santa questions. I think he's onto me.
xegar |
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12.24.05 - 11:13 am | #
rule of law, rule of law, rule of law
arabella
another quote that's been goin thru my head lately, think'n of beavis and butthead chanting judas preist,
Break'n the law, break'n the law...
charley |
12.24.05 - 11:13 am | #
Merry... Stuff, everybody!
It was heartening to see a rather long story on MSNBC this morning about how widespread the NSA wiretapping has been -- and even Pat Buchanan admitting that Preznit should have sought changes in the law, if (as he insists) it's not fast enough ::cough:: bullshit ::cough::. I didn't expect to see anything but fluff on the news.
(Finished the last bit of my shopping last night. Got home to discover -- I'm out of toilet paper. Yeah, I WANT to go out in that mess today and buy TP, boy howdy.)
Silleigh |
12.24.05 - 11:13 am | #
Aiie, Gummo. Even just overusing your ankles isn't comfortable (as I learned in the transit strike). Oh well, hope that doesn't prevent Mrs G making the most of events.
Further OT, what sort of temps are people getting? NY seems to be getting highs in the 50s, without which we'd've infallibly had a white Xmas but instead will have a rainy one...
TheaLogie |
12.24.05 - 11:14 am | #
off to toledo...
I kinda miss Toledo. We used to go to concerts at the art museum a lot this time of year.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 11:14 am | #
My six year old is peppering me with Santa questions. I think he's onto me.
That was the age I set out a tape recorder to catch Santa in the act.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 11:14 am | #
there's nothing "petty"
about about the advantages that Bush seeks.
Oh, well, you see then that makes it all okay -- if you're a Republican.
Toonscribe |
12.24.05 - 11:15 am | #
Fitz is a man who believes in the rule of law. He prosecuted the mafia. He prosecuted the terrorists responsible for the 1983 WTC bombing. The terrorists were the most afraid of Fitz of all the govenment people. They said that Fitz is dangerous because he believes "in his heart" that justice must be served. We need more people like him.
Fitz embodies The Rule of Law in a way that everyone can relate to.
rule of law, rule of law, rule of law
arabella | Email | 12.24.05 - 10:58 am | #
This is part of his great appeal, that he appears to be incorruptable, that he believes in rule of law.
That and his nice long fingers and cute little bald spot.
I'm sorry, what was the topic again?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
12.24.05 - 11:15 am | #
Fitz is a man who believes in the rule of law. He prosecuted the mafia. He prosecuted the terrorists responsible for the 1993 WTC bombing.
Seriously? That's one busy dude.
TheaLogie |
12.24.05 - 11:16 am | #
Hey Gummo,
I'm very sorry about your wife's ankle. I echo what Hecate said ~ I've twisted, sprained and broken my ankles. I know it's no fun.
I broke both ankles at the same time back in 1994, ended up in the hospital for 5 days and out of commission for three months. It was in August, and I was moving to a new house in September. Talk about humility ~ my family had to come and pack me up and move me because I was in a wheelchair. And then they had to clean the old house.
I was mortified of what my mom would find in the bedroom (love dust, books, etc.), but I discreetly had one of my sisters do the packing up there...
Anyway, it's no fun. But it does provide a lot of still time and time for reflection.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:17 am | #
Boy, I have no problem with the Barron's article: I agree; someone should have screamed bloody murder at this encroachment.
So, the Congress lied by omission
The NYTimes Lied by omission
The American people got a good fucking in the last election.
God bless Amerika
DWD - Listener in the Snow |
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12.24.05 - 11:17 am | #
Strange how they gave Sen. John D. Rockefeller kudos for actually showing the integrity of keeping it a secret once he knew.
This in itself is a weapon the pussy dems can use to defend themselves against the likes of Limbug and Ann-thrax Culture when they accuse Dems of wanting to see us lose the police action on terror or see our soldiers die, etc.
That was the age I set out a tape recorder to catch Santa in the act.
NTodd
He's asking some pretty complex questions, and my efforts to suspend the myth are getting lame. (ie. "Because he's magic.")
xegar |
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12.24.05 - 11:18 am | #
Detainees held by the British army in Iraq have been involved in disturbances this week in protest at being held without charge or trial, the Guardian has learned.
The governor of Basra has made representations to the British after complaints by family members who say that their relatives have gone on hunger strike in the Shaiba detention facility south of Basra.
Families of the men say that they were prevented from visiting their relatives on Thursday and blocked the road to the base in protest. They say that when a few did gain access they heard allegations of beatings and of men being attacked by dogs.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 11:19 am | #
He's asking some pretty complex questions, and my efforts to suspend the myth are getting lame. (ie. "Because he's magic.")
Ask him why he wants to know. Ask him what he thinks. Ask him what he wants to be true.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 11:19 am | #
what sort of temps are people getting?
It's going to be about 80 here in the San Fernando Valley today. A few degrees cooler closer to the coast. I figure Sallyh will probably have about 74 or 75.
Toonscribe |
12.24.05 - 11:20 am | #
Damn. Foiled again. I would have succeded in killing Christ too if it hadn't been for you meddling kids.
SWR | 12.24.05 - 10:32 am | #
My six year old is peppering me with Santa questions. I think he's onto me.
That was the age I set out a tape recorder to catch Santa in the act.
I was getting my hair washed by my momma when I was 8, and I asked her if the tooth fairy was real. She said no. So I asked her if the Easter Bunny was real. Again, no. So then, I mustered all my courage and asked her the biggie ~ about Santa, and she said no.
And I started to bawl.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:20 am | #
I really need to get moving on stuff, and am so unmotivated.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.24.05 - 11:20 am | #
what sort of temps are people getting?
bob, from account temps.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
12.24.05 - 11:20 am | #
xegar
Surely there is a blog out there that you can direct your child to that will answer all his questions.
Or maybe Wikipedia has some data that will satisfy him.
Heck, bet there is even an 'Official' Santa's Web Site.
Boy times have changed.
EkCenTriK |
12.24.05 - 11:21 am | #
(see? i didn't leave yet - had to come back for my misletoe belt buckle. now i'm going)
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
12.24.05 - 11:21 am | #
Toons--our expected high on this lovely day is 77. Seriously, I do not need cold and snow to feel in the mood. I got a massive dose of cold and snow last week in Boston.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.24.05 - 11:21 am | #
I found out Sanat did not exist when i located a big box full of individually wrapped presents in our garage.
i must of been 11 years old.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 11:22 am | #
Ask him why he wants to know. Ask him what he thinks. Ask him what he wants to be true.
NTodd
What a great answer! God, I love you. I wish you were ten years older. That you weren't in Vermont. That you didn't wear a wedding ring. That's what I want to be true.
Ask him why he wants to know. Ask him what he thinks. Ask him what he wants to be true.
that's either amazingly wise, or the way bush decided to go to war.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
12.24.05 - 11:22 am | #
Vicki--NTodd understands this because he is a kid
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Si si puedes.... Clinton Jencks, 87; Organizer Who Led Mineworkers Strike Later Taught at San Diego State
By Myrna Oliver
Times Staff Writer
December 23, 2005
Union organizer Clinton Jencks, who led New Mexico mineworkers in a McCarthy-era strike chronicled in the classic 1953 motion picture "Salt of the Earth," has died. He was 87.
Jencks died Dec. 14 in San Diego of natural causes, according to his daughter, Linda O'Connell.
An organizer for a progressive union, Jencks led a 15-month strike begun in 1950 near Bayard, N.M., against Empire Zinc Co. by the Amalgamated Bayard District Union of Mine, Mill and Smelter Workers Local 890. The largely Latino strikers sought pay equal to that of white workers, improved safety conditions and healthcare goals they eventually won with great effort.
When company officials obtained an injunction barring the men from picketing, their wives and children took their place. Arrested and jailed, the families made such a noisy clatter in the jail that a harried sheriff let them go.
Hollywood could not ignore such drama, and blacklisted producer Paul Jarrico, director Herbert Biberman and screenwriter Michael Wilson decided to make a movie about the conflict.
Because of the anti-Communist scare gripping Hollywood, the filmmakers had no financial backing and little professional help. They hired blacklisted actor Will Geer and Mexican actress Rosaura Revueltas, who was deported for her participation.
Otherwise, they had the Mexican American mineworkers and their families portray themselves. Jencks, a tall blond man called "El Palomino" by the Latinos, played Frank Barnes, a character based on him, and Jencks' first wife, Virginia, played Barnes' spouse, Ruth.
The movie is one of 400 selected by the Library of Congress for the National Film Registry, and film historian Leonard Maltin's Classic Movie Guide says: "This film is particularly impressive considering its history made under difficult conditions (and on a shoestring), with many nonprofessional actors, by blacklisted filmmakers."
When the movie came out, it was certainly no box office success.
Under McCarthyism pressure from the House Committee on Un-American Activities, the Screen Actors Guild and the International Alliance of Theater and Stage Employees not to mention a boycott led by Howard Hughes the film was shut out of all but 13 theaters across the country.
Jencks, along with Revueltas and the filmmakers, suffered for the project. The labor organizer was convicted of perjury in El Paso in 1954 and sentenced to five years in prison. The charge stemmed from a requirement under the Taft-Hartley Act that union officials sign an affidavit swearing they were not members of the Communist Party a document Jencks had signed in 1950....
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12.24.05 - 11:23 am | #
i am at a loss to explain MYOB......
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....
Jencks, along with Revueltas and the filmmakers, suffered for the project. The labor organizer was convicted of perjury in El Paso in 1954 and sentenced to five years in prison. The charge stemmed from a requirement under the Taft-Hartley Act that union officials sign an affidavit swearing they were not members of the Communist Party a document Jencks had signed in 1950.
Jencks said he signed the affidavit truthfully, but the federal government accused him of lying. It was relying on testimony by Henry Matusow, an aide to Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-Wis.). Matusow, who subsequently wrote the book "False Witness," later recanted his testimony, but the Texas judge ignored his turnabout.
In 1957, however, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Jencks' conviction in a landmark opinion that established the right of criminal defendants to obtain prior statements made to authorities by witnesses against them. The government opted not to retry Jencks rather than open its FBI files containing Matusow's statements.
Despite the court victory, Jencks was dogged by rumors of association with Communists and had trouble getting or keeping jobs.
He was working as a mechanic in Albany, Calif., in 1959 when the conservative Woodrow Wilson Foundation awarded him a graduate fellowship to UC Berkeley. The foundation said it had found no evidence that Jencks was then or had ever been a Communist.
After earning a doctorate in economics, Jencks taught at San Diego State from 1964 until his retirement in 1988.
A native of Colorado Springs, Colo., he served in the Army Air Forces in the Pacific Theater throughout World War II. He later worked in a smelter near Denver, before he was sent to southern New Mexico as an organizer for the International Union of Mine, Mill and Smelter Workers.
In addition to his daughter, Jencks is survived by his second wife, Muriel; three stepdaughters; and three grandchildren. His son, Clinton, died in 1995.
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12.24.05 - 11:23 am | #
I hope the Dems have the ovaries to bork Alito.
rest assured, they don't...
if the simpering, scampering, swaggering, smirking Chimp's approval ratings is anywhere near 50%, Alito's a done deal...
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12.24.05 - 11:23 am | #
Shrub is able to catapult the propaganda and the Constitution in a single bound.
I hope he's wearing a cape.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 12.24.05 - 11:06 am | #
Here's hoping that cape catches on something.
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12.24.05 - 11:24 am | #
Hi guys.
I'm away from home and I forgot to wish you all happy holidays before I left.
See you all on Tuesday (some of you in person even).
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12.24.05 - 11:24 am | #
From the thread below: (I had to visit the chiro to have my neck whacked again) but Kevin Drum is full of shit (again) and I wish he would keep his anti-people thoughts to himself.
The question then becomes, what is the purpose of living?
Those in power and sympathizers like Drum apparently think it is to work to make our corporatations, schools, and businesses more productive.
Have they really thought of this? I doubt it.
In four years I will be sixty years old with 30 years of teaching behind me. I will retire and I will not think twice about it. Whether I take some other job or not is my business. At least I can look forward to a year or two of doing exactly what I want, where I want to do it before I croak.
Damn! People who measure themselves by their jobs are really and truly sick motherfuckers. Stop, think: measure yourself by what you know and the kindness you can bring (or the outrage as the case may be) Do not let the corporatilists judge you by their standards, you judge them by yours.
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12.24.05 - 11:24 am | #
I hope the Dems have the ovaries to bork Alito.
I say we just poke him with a coathanger till he goes away.
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12.24.05 - 11:25 am | #
Christ never existed.
He must have. I keep hearing his ads on the radio.
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12.24.05 - 11:25 am | #
Toons--our expected high on this lovely day is 77.
Wow. Can't beat that. Here in Berkeley, we're only expected to get into the upper 60's, with thin sunshine. After today, though, it appears we're in for a serious hosing down. Forecasters are using a fair number of superlatives in their description of the system headed our way mid-week. Should be fun battling our way to the mountains through that....
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12.24.05 - 11:25 am | #
Sallyh
I didn't think it would be that high, but it's been a while since I looked at the forecast. If you get 77, I'll probably get over 80 -- say about 82. That's fine with me. I had my fill of chilliness when we had those two cold weeks and my heater was kaput.
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12.24.05 - 11:26 am | #
And I started to bawl.
Vicki | Email | 12.24.05 - 11:20 am | #
It probably hurt her to say it. I think most parents, including myself, would like our kids to stay innocent and believe in innocent things for their entire lives if possible.
32F. Should be getting more snow, too.
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12.24.05 - 11:26 am | #
Can't remember how old I was when I found out about Santa. It was no big trauma by that time, so I must have been older.
I prefer to think of it this way: There is a Santa. Santa's a spiritual concept that involves giving. And Santa works through your parents.
One of the best surprises in life, for me, was realizing how much more fun it was to watch my kids dig into their presents than it EVER was to dig into my own as a kid. (We never wrapped the "Santa" presents.)
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12.24.05 - 11:26 am | #
I hope the Dems have the ovaries to bork Alito.
rest assured, they don't...
if the simpering, scampering, swaggering, smirking Chimp's approval ratings is anywhere near 50%, Alito's a done deal...
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WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka | Email | 12.24.05 - 11:23 am | #
i will be surprised if you are wrong. still, i'm hoping to be surprised.
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12.24.05 - 11:27 am | #
Toons--our heater went out during the 'cold snap' as well. It's a conspiracy among furnace repair people, I tell you.
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12.24.05 - 11:27 am | #
71° today in Morro Bay, suckas!
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12.24.05 - 11:27 am | #
We're looking at 35 with a rain snow mix for Christmas in Grand Rapids.
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12.24.05 - 11:27 am | #
Can we as American citizens sue George Bush (and Gonzalez I guess..) over the domestic data-mining? Pehaps a massive class action suit. We could get the ACLU to sue BushCo on behalf of us all (or 49% or us or a few hundred thousand or whatever). The harm would be the violaton of the right to privacy established in Griswald and affirmed in Roe and codified into the FISA law and laws against unreasonable search and seizure (these laws against warrentless searches come from the the 4th amendment I'm being told). The remedy would be they would have to tell what Americans they have a file on and if any of those files were a result of warrently searches or taps, they would have to pay and destroy the file.
Since they're data mining everybody, we all have standing. The harm or this monitoring of American without cause would be easy to show..,
What do you think? Certainly 40 million or so suing Bush for a violation of their constitutional rights would be a helluva news story.
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12.24.05 - 11:28 am | #
Close to 40° here. Happy Almost Festivus, Moonbats!
Don't make me break out my Festivus bat.
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And now I need to go shovel before my folks arrive. Later, batses! Peace and Humptiness to you all.
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12.24.05 - 11:28 am | #
Santa was always just pretend at our house.
On the other hand, Mummy saw the Easter Bunny's paw prints leading up to the front door on Easter morning.
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12.24.05 - 11:29 am | #
Low 70's tomorrow. Was hoping for something chillier to make a fire worthwhile. Would feel like an idiot setting one up and then using AC because it got too warm.
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12.24.05 - 11:29 am | #
i am at a loss to explain MYOB......
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist | Email | Homepage | 12.24.05 - 11:23 am | #
I have to admit I'm more disappointed in learning that British soldiers were involved in possible atrocities than I am my fellow americans. Mainly because I figured that with our peppered past of slavery, genocide against the native americans, and pretty much our entire behavior during the cold war, that I figured the British would try to set themselves on a higher mantlepiece of example. Of course the problem with the IRA is a slight taint on that as well, I always figured that it was a far different story than what we endured here.
Gotta go prune the shrubbery before going out to the PO. Be good.
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12.24.05 - 11:30 am | #
OT
Recent fundraising probes bring scrutiny to Doolittle's spouse.
By David Whitney -- Bee Washington Bureau
Published 2:15 am PST Saturday, December 24, 2005
Page A1
WASHINGTON - A business operated by the wife of Rep. John Doolittle has pumped more than $136,000 into the family's finances over the last three years from commissions on fundraising for the Roseville Republican's federal political action committee.
Julie Doolittle's company has been paid commissions amounting to about 15 percent of the $905,000 the congressman's PAC has received in contributions over the last three years, a figure the congressman's office did not dispute. At that rate, more than $10,000 of her company's earnings would have come from a handful of large contributors linked to ongoing corruption investigations.
The arrangement between Julie Doolittle's company, Sierra Dominion Financial Solutions, and her husband's Superior California Federal Leadership Fund is not illegal. More than a dozen congressional spouses are similarly paid.
But in the aftermath of the resignation of Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, who pleaded guilty in federal court to accepting bribes from defense contractors, and the ongoing investigation of former high-flying Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff, for whom Julie Doolittle's company also worked, her business is drawing greater scrutiny.
Thanks, everyone, for your good wishes. She says it's already feeling better than yesterday.
And I AM pampering her, dammit.
I passed your wishes along and she said, "Aw. Liberals are caring people."
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12.24.05 - 11:31 am | #
Britain as just as much nasty history as America I guess MYOB.
you would be suprised how many Brits see the Empire through rose tinted glasses.
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12.24.05 - 11:31 am | #
Do you think these guys had enough self-control to not wiretap their political opponents?
Do you suppose that they would wiretap their political supporters as well?
Should any of this be true, political opera.
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12.24.05 - 11:31 am | #
measure yourself by what you know and the kindness you can bring (or the outrage as the case may be) Do not let the corporatilists judge you by their standards, you judge them by yours.
I agree 100%.
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12.24.05 - 11:32 am | #
On the other hand, Mummy saw the Easter Bunny's paw prints leading up to the front door on Easter morning.
We got soot from the fireplace smeared on our foreheads (just a touch) before our parents would wake us up to tell us Santa had come. They'd wake us up around 1AM for this -- after setting up, because Mom couldn't stand the idea of not being awake to see us get into the presents.
First thing we'd do was rush to the mirror to see "Santa's kiss."
Sometimes Dad would make ash boot-prints right outside the fireplace, too. It was cool.
Silleigh |
12.24.05 - 11:32 am | #
Do you think these guys had enough self-control to not wiretap their political opponents?
She's watching a show on tv right now about protecting First Amendment rights.
It's talking about how important those rights are, even if they aren't popular with people who want to silence dissent.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:32 am | #
I have to admit I'm more disappointed in learning that British soldiers were involved in possible atrocities than I am my fellow americans. Mainly because I figured that with our peppered past of slavery, genocide against the native americans, and pretty much our entire behavior during the cold war, that I figured the British would try to set themselves on a higher mantlepiece of example. Of course the problem with the IRA is a slight taint on that as well, I always figured that it was a far different story than what we endured here.
MYOB - I used to take Granta, a literary journal. They did an issue on the Troubles once and I'm afraid that some of the psychological torture the US is using they learned from the British.
Sorry Moonbootica, but the British have been torturing IRA prisoners for years, according to what I've read. They were big on the black hoods, sleep deprivation, cold, and strained postures that have to be held.
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12.24.05 - 11:34 am | #
Silleigh, That's a great story. Much loved, I see.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:34 am | #
Jesus H Christ, we are NOT at war and Bush is not a "War President" any longer.
We suffered a criminal act on Sept 11 from a gang.
We invaded a country, but that is over - we won. Now we are occupiers.
Tug |
12.24.05 - 11:34 am | #
Tug, go tug on your dick, You are an idiot.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:35 am | #
Tena no need to say sorry.
a good book I read about the troubles specifically the IRA was The Provos: IRA and Sinn Fein by Peter Taylor.
we also studied N Ireland as one of our modules in A Level Politics.
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12.24.05 - 11:36 am | #
The "I" word is showing up frequently these days in the mainstream media.
Ask him why he wants to know. Ask him what he thinks. Ask him what he wants to be true.
NTodd
tis an excellent answer. i found out from my younger brother, and confirmed with my mom. when i found i'd been lied to for six years i was fk'n pissed.
now if americans would just have the same reaction to this idiot king...
anyway it's christmas. so to all, happy, happy.
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12.24.05 - 11:38 am | #
Sorry Moonbootica, but the British have been torturing IRA prisoners for years, according to what I've read. They were big on the black hoods, sleep deprivation, cold, and strained postures that have to be held.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 12.24.05 - 11:34 am | #
More shattered innocence.
Santa first, now the Brits.
My hopes now lay with the Canadians.
But people who say 'a' every other word don't inspire too much confidence.
Vicki, my folks loved the theatre of holidays. They really did 'em up right.
It's funny how memories rise up and slap you like waves this time of year.
(I'm really amazed at how much time MSNBC is giving to the domestic spying story this morning.)
Silleigh |
12.24.05 - 11:39 am | #
Shawk - On my opinion, they were spying on the opponents. And I'll bet they were spying on one another too. Why do you think Rove, for now, evaded indictment? He probably was listening to Libby and god knows who else. This thing is going to fracture the Republican party by turning them against one another. When some one has power to do something that person inevitably uses that power without restraint.
Moonbootica - well, one really hates to make such a statement, especially about the country that another person lives in.
I don't want to offend you.
Thanks for not being offended.
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12.24.05 - 11:40 am | #
Oh pleeeeeeze - there's no fucking way they weren't spying on Kerry and Edwards and Dean and on and on - you know they were.
you know it
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 11:40 am | #
Silleigh, mine, too. They still do a huge production every year.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:40 am | #
For those I may not see later, Siochain ar Talamh. And for Auntie GWPDA, Air Talamh Sith.
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12.24.05 - 11:41 am | #
well i've never pretened Britain had a rosy history.
after all we were an Imperial power, and that comes with many negative and harmful elements.
of course now we're a backwater ex-imperial power hanging on the coat tails of much more powerful countries to gain influence.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 11:41 am | #
MMM, fresh cherry Struedel - from the store, but still excellent. Perfect accompaniment to my morning coffee and pain pills. (sigh)
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12.24.05 - 11:41 am | #
71° today in Morro Bay, suckas!
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Morro Bay?
I love morro bay...ex-wife lives in Los Osos, her mom a couple of blocks off EsteroBeach, north opf the rock...
any waves today?
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12.24.05 - 11:42 am | #
Hey dirty elephant seals.
Hope everyone has the weekend off of work, is keeping warm and happy, having lots of Holiday Nog, enjoying the company of friends and/or family and/or pets, and falling asleep happy at nights with visions of impeachments dancing in your heads.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
12.24.05 - 11:43 am | #
77 degrees right now. Windows in the house are all open, but the ceiling fans aren't on.
Re: Santa. Our 6-Year-Old is pretty trelaxed with the whole concept. Also, I think he's made the calculation that there's no percentage in risking the presents through an impertinent doubt.
We don't make too much of a big deal about Santa, though, anyway.
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12.24.05 - 11:44 am | #
The Democrats will be enraged. Not about the "constitutional crisis" but about the oppo research.
And mark my words, the Republicans will turn on Bush, and on each other because I bet that Cheney was spying on Republicans too.
Wire tap the average person = OK
Wire tap a Congressperson = Impeach!
She kick your gonads at Scrabble yet?
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:46 am | #
Did I kill this thread by linking to The Onion?
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12.24.05 - 11:48 am | #
No, Kensosha Kid. People are busy today - less time to blog.
arabella |
12.24.05 - 11:49 am | #
It's also unbelieveable that the Times sat on this story for over a year, choosing not to release it before the "election."
Some paper of record.
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12.24.05 - 11:49 am | #
"Hey Nim, how's my sister? Blissed out?
She kick your gonads at Scrabble yet?
Vicki "
Well she seems happy, but I won't speak for her. I am though
And I have avoided any Scrabble massacres.
She did beat my ass at darts though. Apparently butchering my masculinity and laughing at the steaming corpse is fun for her
How you?
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
12.24.05 - 11:50 am | #
Tena, just a long process I guess. Chiro is not sure it will ever be "right" again. What concerns me is that after adjustment it is okay (and I use that word guardedly) for a couple of days, then it reverts again. When I worked two days last week, I could not have done the third. Sucks, but at least I did not break my neck.
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12.24.05 - 11:50 am | #
Arabella - i agree. There's a lot of outrage over this and it's building.
I think it has sunk Alito - thank the goddess, and '06 is going to be the year from hell for the Junta.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 11:51 am | #
Hey, if they were really looking for foreign terrorists with all this. it stands to reason that they would have caught some, right?
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12.24.05 - 11:51 am | #
Moonbootica,
My only reservations about British history had to do with it's occupation of India. Mainly because I happen to be a Mahatma Ghandi .
But my surprise now is as a result of recent events. I had thought that since this whole B.S. with Iraq started that European societies as a whole would have shown some pride at being anything other than what we Americans were.
I guess in the end we're all the same when it comes to how we teat others.
It's not a trait I had hoped the various nations of this world would have in common.
I hope youre country resolves it better than we do cause it looks like we may never get such an honorable resolve.
About thirty five years ago John Prine wrote a little song called, Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore (Carl)
I was just listening and lamenting how little things have changed. Instead of the Reverend Carl McIntyre, we have James Dobson and the rest of the Fundy Fruitcakes.
Just Damn!
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12.24.05 - 11:53 am | #
MYOB i don't know whether Britian will ever get rid of its imperial baggage.
getting rid of the monarchy would be a start, it would not be the solution however.
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12.24.05 - 11:53 am | #
DWD - I'm sure sorry - what a thing to happen.
I really sympathize, because I hurt myself all the time. I'm very clumsy because I don't pay attention to what I'm doing. I can't remember a time when I didn't have some big bruise on me or some wound.
I hope you feel better and better -
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12.24.05 - 11:54 am | #
That should have said "..because I happen to be a Mahatma Ghandi 'admirer'.."
We are fine. I'm trying to coerce Audrey to clean the bathroom and vacuum while I go grocery shopping.
Seems like a fair trade to me.
I have to bring the vegetables and dip to the party tomorrow ~ bland for me, but it's what my mom requested. I'll also be baking Spanakopita from scratch (I fucking love spinach pie) and my world famous cranberry orange and cherry pecan breads.
Aud's working at Sal's tonight, so I'll probably have Christmas Eve dinner there. Usually, I do a feast here, but it probably doesn't make sense, since I'll be the only one eating it.
That's my day.
Cosmo and Puck send their love.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:55 am | #
Hey, if they were really looking for foreign terrorists with all this. it stands to reason that they would have caught some, right?
the capture and conviction issue (lack of) could be used as an albratross to hang on their neck. Along with the other flock of large smelly birds this might be better then tar and feathering.
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12.24.05 - 11:56 am | #
while we have a monarchy it not only unhelds the last vestigies of the class system it also harks back to imperalism.
as i said before you speak to some Brits and they talk about the Empire as if they still wished we had it.
we seem not able to accept we are an ex-imperial backwater.
the Suez Crisis really spelt the end of Britian's independent foreign policy like the use of gunboat diplomacy. since then what America does we have to 'stand loyally by'.
thats just the way it is alas *sigh*.
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12.24.05 - 11:56 am | #
DWD ~
I truly hope that you will feel better. I cringe at the thought of your neck pain. Sending good thoughts your way.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:57 am | #
we are the Greeks to the American Romans
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12.24.05 - 11:57 am | #
If you have no principals and you will do anything to achieve your aims you have no true allies. The whole lot of you will eventually turn on one another. look at history and you'll see that's true. No honor among thieves.
(Banging my drum) The White House staff spied on Republicans and they spied on each other. They probably black mailed people too. They are doomed.
Moonbootica - Personally, I would find it very soothing to live in a country that didn't aspire to world superpower status.'
A backwater would be nice.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 11:58 am | #
I have got to get up and get started - I have to make cookies, beef stew to have here tomorrow and Christmas dinner for tonight.
Talk to you a in a bit, Batties.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 11:59 am | #
All righty, I'm off to face the inevitable.
Peace, bats. I'll check in later.
Vicki |
12.24.05 - 11:59 am | #
I'm sorry, but I don't see how anyone can sit back and calmly post after the Kenosha Kid's vicious and reckless Onion-linking. And on Christmas Eve, no less!
The Kenosha Kid should be impeached.
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12.24.05 - 11:59 am | #
71° today in Morro Bay, suckas!
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...
any waves today?
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Merry Ramachanumas!
69° and sunny in Eastex. No waves in the Pineywoods. Not since Rita, anyway...
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12.24.05 - 12:00 pm | #
Woody,
Huge wave last few days, up to 20' but it's an unsurfable mixmaster out there. Yesterday waves breaking over the jetty/foghorn at the harbor entrance. Very dramatic.
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12.24.05 - 12:00 pm | #
Impeach, convict, remove, imprison!
Mark B. |
12.24.05 - 12:01 pm | #
Thanks, Tena. Me too
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12.24.05 - 12:01 pm | #
Woody, you live in CA?
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12.24.05 - 12:02 pm | #
About thirty five years ago John Prine wrote a little song called, Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore (Carl)
Methinks, George W. has left his saddle in the rain.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The volume of information gathered from telephone and Internet communications by the National Security Agency without court-approved warrants was much larger than the White House has acknowledged, The New York Times reported on Saturday.
Citing current and former government officials, the Times said the information was collected by tapping directly into some of the U.S. telecommunication system's main arteries. The officials said the NSA won the cooperation of telecommunications companies to obtain access to both domestic and international communications without first gaining warrants.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 12:02 pm | #
"This country will never be united again."
Hey, we've always been divided, at least since Andy Jackson, and, if you read Zinn's history,ever since Europeans came over. It's just that with communications so much better now, we have noticed it--that is, us proles. The plutocrats have always known it.
robthehearthrob |
12.24.05 - 12:02 pm | #
He's afraid of horses, but I doubt that's the reason.
What I want to know is what the plan is to recover the BILLIONS of dollars that bush and his cronies have stolen (and continue to steal) over the last 5 years. Remember... this is all about money and power, and the evil one and his minions have both. I don't see much sense in impeaching the sob and letting him go back to Crawford to count the damn money!
If it were up to me I would do my damnest to impeach bush and his entire group of fellow profiteers, take ALL the money back and turn them over to the Haig for war crimes.
If the United States constitution can't manage to do that then we really are fucked.
MOSUL, Iraq (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld wrapped up his visit to Iraq at a Christmas eve dinner with American troops in Mosul, the country's second largest city and one of its most volatile.
Escorted by Apache helicopters to the U.S. regional headquarters in Mosul, Rumsfeld lent a hand serving troops a dinner of lobster tails and steak.
Addressing troops later, he reflected on a year in which, he said, Iraqi security forces had assumed greater responsibilities.
"When you read things and hear things that express doubt about the future here in Iraq, or in Afghanistan, know that there have always been doubts expressed, there have always been those who have suggested that the cause could not be successful, that the cause would be lost," he said.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 12:04 pm | #
DWD Methinks Georgie also climbs the walls while sitting in a chair.
What I want to know is what the plan is to recover the BILLIONS of dollars that bush and his cronies have stolen (and continue to steal) over the last 5 years. Remember... this is all about money and power, and the evil one and his minions have both. I don't see much sense in impeaching the sob and letting him go back to Crawford to count the damn money!
If it were up to me I would do my damnest to impeach bush and his entire group of fellow profiteers, take ALL the money back and turn them over to the Haig for war crimes.
DWD - Listener in the Snow |
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12.24.05 - 12:06 pm | #
I want my mama. Waaaaaa . . . .
King George |
12.24.05 - 12:08 pm | #
BS Detector, (For our new media and their damn war mongering/reporting)
"Ain't it funny how an old broken bottle looks just like a diamond ring, but it's far far from me."
DWD - Listener in the Snow |
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12.24.05 - 12:08 pm | #
Escorted by Apache helicopters to the U.S. regional headquarters in Mosul, Rumsfeld lent a hand serving troops a dinner of lobster tails and steak.
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds"
J. Robert Oppenheimer (quoting the Bhagavad Gita)
Enjoy your lobster tails, my dark minions!--Rumsfeld
But I don't want to be a minion, I just want to go home.--Anonymous soldier
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12.24.05 - 12:09 pm | #
MULTAN, Pakistan (AP) - A father angry that his eldest daughter married for love slit her throat as she slept, then killed three other daughters in a remote village in eastern Pakistan, police said Saturday.
Nazir Ahmad, a laborer in his 40s, feared the younger girls, aged 4 to 12, would follow in their 25-year-old sister's footsteps, police officer Shahzad Gul said.
Hundreds of women are killed in Pakistan every year, many by male relatives, after they are accused of having affairs or marrying for love without their families' consent.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 12:10 pm | #
Doozer - Just say no to Louie Gohmert.
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12.24.05 - 12:11 pm | #
A prediction of heaving stores as shoppers rushed to buy last minute gifts ahead of Christmas day failed to materialise on Christmas Eve.
Although shopping centres around the country reported high turnouts early, many peaked around lunchtime as customers hurried home to wrap their presents.
Anne Walker of the Regent Street Association, London, said: "It has not been as busy as it was on Friday, but it has been steady business, the people here are definitely shopping.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 12:12 pm | #
As the sunglassed sage, Jack Nicholson, said of the movie ratings system.
"Kiss a tit; it's rated X.
Chop off a tit with a machete; it's rated PG."
Clinton's impeachment was for kissing...
but the nation may not go for a PG rated impeacment...
domestic spying?...too tame. we see that on TV every night. but sex?! whoa.
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12.24.05 - 12:13 pm | #
We're brining a turkey breast for tom'w. Also we're going to have mashed sweet potatos and roasted mixed vegetables.
I'll just pick out the brussel sprouts. Yuk.
Gummo |
12.24.05 - 12:15 pm | #
The biggest difference between "us" and "them" is that they know they are at war, and we often behave as if reason and logic are sufficient enough for our side to prevail, history has proven otherwise.
Cochise
Jumping in real late, and can't stay, but Cochise's quote says it all. This is a good Christmas gift.
Merry Christmas, fake kal; you need it.
fondook |
12.24.05 - 12:16 pm | #
On the other hand, Moonbootica, if given a choice between getting rid of the Queen or getting rid of Poodle Blair, I would choose the latter without hesitating.
He's a much more ferocious proponent of imperialism than Her Majesty, I'll warrant. And PM Wormtongue apes his master's predilection for absolute and indestructible self-righteousness.
Naturally, as an Amerikan I have considerable experience in identifying the Lesser Evil.
Little Brøther |
12.24.05 - 12:16 pm | #
Naturally, as an Amerikan I have considerable experience in identifying the Lesser Evil.
Our Lesser Evil choices have been measured in micrometers the last few seasons...
Gummo |
12.24.05 - 12:17 pm | #
My Barron's hasn't arrived yet...was that the Editorial Page or Alan Abelson's column. The former would indeed be a sea change....the latter, well Abelson hasn't thought much of the Chimp in Chief since he was "elected" the first time.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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12.24.05 - 12:17 pm | #
Little Brøther to me they are part of the same problem.
get rid of them BOTH!
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 12:18 pm | #
BTW, it's going to be a year for international whack-a-mole, I think.
Heh... my life revolved around one relationship or another for a while... I've been single since early this year, for the longest time since I was 16.
It was strange, then lonely, then bitter going...
Then God pretty much shoved my face into a pile of dung & showed me what a self-centered, silly girl I'd been, and that I'm still way too rough around the edges for marriage or parenthood, and that it was time to focus on having a relationship with him (which I'd never done). When I'm ready, he'll find me someone... but not before.
Yeah, please get your shit together.
Lime Rickey |
12.24.05 - 12:23 pm | #
It's *eh*, not *a* .. can't you hear the difference ?
In my experience, we canuckleheads say *eh* just about as often as many Yanks say *uh-huh*.
Which one has a nicer lilt to it. in your opinion ?
Moonbootica: I take your point; agreed.
Little Brøther |
12.24.05 - 12:24 pm | #
Chocolate truffle cake in the oven. Never made it before. Oh please let it come out.
Neponset
Baby doll, if it doesn't then you spoon it into bowls, put a big blop of whipping cream on it and call it Christmas pudding.
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12.24.05 - 12:25 pm | #
I see. She has to find a God-like man. Someone who will shove her face into a pile of shit.
:::But the measure awaiting President Bush's signature also would limit the access of detainees held at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to federal courts. And it would allow the military to use confessions elicited by torture when deciding whether a detainee is an enemy combatant.:::
:::An amendment sponsored by Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) eliminates detainees' ability to challenge the condition of their detentions through habeas corpus petitions.:::
What the fuck is Levin's name doing on this amendment? And why the fuck does anyone think funneling any and all claims through the DC District would be a measure of judicial balance as they've already coughed up Hamdan and John Roberts?
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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12.24.05 - 12:25 pm | #
James Jesus Rimbaud --
This is from the comments at Atrios's link:
BR: The Op/Ed was not written by Abelson -- it was by THOMAS G. DONLAN, who is the conservative editor of the Opinions page.
Santa lives!
Little Brøther |
12.24.05 - 12:28 pm | #
Tom,
Not Carl, his brother Sander the congressman: My understanding is that he agreed to sponsor and the damned repukes changed the wording to mean the opposite: but his name is still there.
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12.24.05 - 12:28 pm | #
the democracy we are bringing to iraq isn't
Stan |
12.24.05 - 12:28 pm | #
Just a drive-by post to say Merry Christmas, Good Yule, Happy Saturnalia, Happy Hanukkah, and HAPPY FUCKING HOLIDAYS to all you wonderful moonbats.
What the fuck is Levin's name doing on this amendment?
wtf is ANY goddam chickenshit dumbocrap doin cooperating with these fascist shitheels?
seriously...
and given their reliable complicity, what make anyone actually think they'd do anything different?
So, how goes it?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.24.05 - 12:31 pm | #
So, how goes it?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.24.05 - 12:31 pm | #
Sensenbrenner was one of the skeptics about the original PATRIOT Act. He was one of those chiefly responsible for the sunset provision.
What accounts for his becoming such a fanatical defender of the act (going as far as shutting down a hearing,) if not blackmail?
lysias |
12.24.05 - 12:32 pm | #
Thats what I wanted to know. I do read Donlan..I can't stand him...but I do read him. His opinion will carry far more weight amongst the conservatives than Abelson's. I got a subscription to Barron's..but never bothered to register for the online thing. My copy won't arrive for another couple of hours yet.
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12.24.05 - 12:32 pm | #
however the US does not need to have colonies of course, with their numerous air and military bases.
America is a classic empire, only the methods have changed!
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 12:32 pm | #
Woody,
Big waves. I posted earlier that we've had 20 footers breaking over the breakwater into the harbor last few days. The surf is too confused to ride but it it otherwise just frickin' georgous here now.
Los Osos... Oh boy, ever been to the Merrymaker, or as it's called locally the Marriage Breaker?
function() |
12.24.05 - 12:34 pm | #
It appears the union thugs overstepped this time.
RCP; my choice for Truth in News right after Rush Limbaugh.
fondook |
12.24.05 - 12:35 pm | #
BTW, the only reason for subcribing to Barron's, other than the digest form of all relevant financial data...is to read Alan Abelson. He kicks ass.
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12.24.05 - 12:35 pm | #
Not Carl, his brother Sander the congressman: My understanding is that he agreed to sponsor and the damned repukes changed the wording to mean the opposite: but his name is still there.
DWD - Listener in the Snow
Ick. Let that be a lesson to Dems who might be tempted by a Bushevik to sign on to some "bi-partisan thing". Ick ick ick.
and Moonbootica, I was quite dismayed by the coverage by the BBC this week of the vote in Hong Kong's LegCo on Constitutional Reforms. Sounded like it was written by someone with ties too close to the mainlands Foreign Affairs Office, which might mean one of the sinologists in Blair's Foreign Office. ick. ick ick ick.
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12.24.05 - 12:35 pm | #
however the US does not need to have colonies of course, with their numerous air and military bases.
America is a classic empire, only the methods have changed!
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist - 12:32 pm
chalmers johnson
Published on Thursday, January 15, 2004 by TomDispatch.com
America's Empire of Bases
by Chalmers Johnson
As distinct from other peoples, most Americans do not recognize -- or do not want to recognize -- that the United States dominates the world through its military power. Due to government secrecy, our citizens are often ignorant of the fact that our garrisons encircle the planet. This vast network of American bases on every continent except Antarctica actually constitutes a new form of empire -- an empire of bases with its own geography not likely to be taught in any high school geography class. Without grasping the dimensions of this globe-girdling Baseworld, one can't begin to understand the size and nature of our imperial aspirations or the degree to which a new kind of militarism is undermining our constitutional order.
Our military deploys well over half a million soldiers, spies, technicians, teachers, dependents, and civilian contractors in other nations. To dominate the oceans and seas of the world, we are creating some thirteen naval task forces built around aircraft carriers whose names sum up our martial heritage -- Kitty Hawk, Constellation, Enterprise, John F. Kennedy, Nimitz, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Carl Vinson, Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, John C. Stennis, Harry S. Truman, and Ronald Reagan. We operate numerous secret bases outside our territory to monitor what the people of the world, including our own citizens, are saying, faxing, or e-mailing to one another.
Our installations abroad bring profits to civilian industries, which design and manufacture weapons for the armed forces or, like the now well-publicized Kellogg, Brown & Root company, a subsidiary of the Halliburton Corporation of Houston, undertake contract services to build and maintain our far-flung outposts. One task of such contractors is to keep uniformed members of the imperium housed in comfortable quarters, well fed, amused, and supplied with enjoyable, affordable vacation facilities. Whole sectors of the American economy have come to rely on the military for sales. On the eve of our second war on Iraq, for example, while the Defense Department was ordering up an extra ration of cruise missiles and depleted-uranium armor-piercing tank shells, it also acquired 273,000 bottles of Native Tan sunblock, almost triple its 1999 order and undoubtedly a boon to the supplier, Control Supply Company of Tulsa, Oklahoma, and its subcontractor, Sun Fun Products of Daytona Beach, Florida.
Since DWD and WGG are present, I hope, as well as other John Prine aficionados, let me unburden myself.
I mostly know JP's music from his "Greatest Hits" CD, which I have practically worn out. Should I be embarrassed to admit, though, that I have a hard time figuring out what some of his songs are about?
One that comes to mind is "Sweet Revenge". I love the song, and in fact I sing it enthusiastically during the intervals when I rediscover my guitar and pound out songs with simple chord changes.
The song seems to allude to, er, race relations. But I can't find a common denominator to the imagery, e.g. the verse about sitting next to an English teacher on a plane and making up jokes about bicycle spokes & red balloons, visiting the local DJ, etc.
I would appreciate any informed commentary. I've made cursory attempts to find a John Prine site, but not successfully. I don't expect that there are lots of people worrying about 20 year old song lyrics...
Little Brøther |
12.24.05 - 12:36 pm | #
It's not easy to assess the size or exact value of our empire of bases. Official records on these subjects are misleading, although instructive. According to the Defense Department's annual "Base Structure Report" for fiscal year 2003, which itemizes foreign and domestic U.S. military real estate, the Pentagon currently owns or rents 702 overseas bases in about 130 countries and HAS another 6,000 bases in the United States and its territories. Pentagon bureaucrats calculate that it would require at least $113.2 billion to replace just the foreign bases -- surely far too low a figure but still larger than the gross domestic product of most countries -- and an estimated $591,519.8 million to replace all of them. The military high command deploys to our overseas bases some 253,288 uniformed personnel, plus an equal number of dependents and Department of Defense civilian officials, and employs an additional 44,446 locally hired foreigners. The Pentagon claims that these bases contain 44,870 barracks, hangars, hospitals, and other buildings, which it owns, and that it leases 4,844 more.
These numbers, although staggeringly large, do not begin to cover all the actual bases we occupy globally. The 2003 Base Status Report fails to mention, for instance, any garrisons in Kosovo -- even though it is the site of the huge Camp Bondsteel, built in 1999 and maintained ever since by Kellogg, Brown & Root. The Report similarly omits bases in Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Qatar, and Uzbekistan, although the U.S. military has established colossal base structures throughout the so-called arc of instability in the two-and-a-half years since 9/11.
For Okinawa, the southernmost island of Japan, which has been an American military colony for the past 58 years, the report deceptively lists only one Marine base, Camp Butler, when in fact Okinawa "hosts" ten Marine Corps bases, including Marine Corps Air Station Futenma occupying 1,186 acres in the center of that modest-sized island's second largest city. (Manhattan's Central Park, by contrast, is only 843 acres.) The Pentagon similarly fails to note all of the $5-billion-worth of military and espionage installations in Britain, which have long been conveniently disguised as Royal Air Force bases. If there were an honest count, the actual size of our military empire would probably top 1,000 different bases in other people's countries, but no one -- possibly not even the Pentagon -- knows the exact number for sure, although it has been distinctly on the rise in recent years.
For their occupants, these are not unpleasant places to live and work. Military service today, which is voluntary, bears almost no relation to the duties of a soldier during World War II or the Korean or Vietnamese wars.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka |
12.24.05 - 12:37 pm | #
GWPDA, that's a great suggestion. I always stress about stuff for the in-laws.
Neponset |
12.24.05 - 12:37 pm | #
however the US does not need to have colonies of course, with their numerous air and military bases.
America is a classic empire, only the methods have changed!
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist
Except for Abramoff and DeLay needing the Marianas and Guam for some good ol' fashioned imperial sweat shop labour.
oh wait, they aren't colonies, they are "territories" claimed from the Spanish Empire during the first run of McKinleyist foreign policy.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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12.24.05 - 12:37 pm | #
My mom told me from the very beginning that Santa wasn't real. She even told who it was. But I refused to believe her.
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12.24.05 - 12:37 pm | #
For their occupants, these are not unpleasant places to live and work. Military service today, which is voluntary, bears almost no relation to the duties of a soldier during World War II or the Korean or Vietnamese wars. Most chores like laundry, KP ("kitchen police"), mail call, and cleaning latrines have been subcontracted to private military companies like Kellogg, Brown & Root, DynCorp, and the Vinnell Corporation. Fully one-third of the funds recently appropriated for the war in Iraq (about $30 billion), for instance, are going into private American hands for exactly such services. Where possible everything is done to make daily existence seem like a Hollywood version of life at home. According to the Washington Post, in Fallujah, just west of Baghdad, waiters in white shirts, black pants, and black bow ties serve dinner to the officers of the 82nd Airborne Division in their heavily guarded compound, and the first Burger King has already gone up inside the enormous military base we've established at Baghdad International Airport.
Some of these bases are so gigantic they require as many as nine internal bus routes for soldiers and civilian contractors to get around inside the earthen berms and concertina wire. That's the case at Camp Anaconda, headquarters of the 3rd Brigade, 4th Infantry Division, whose job is to police some 1,500 square miles of Iraq north of Baghdad, from Samarra to Taji. Anaconda occupies 25 square kilometers and will ultimately house as many as 20,000 troops. Despite extensive security precautions, the base has frequently come under mortar attack, notably on the Fourth of July, 2003, just as Arnold Schwarzenegger was chatting up our wounded at the local field hospital.
The military prefers bases that resemble small fundamentalist towns in the Bible Belt rather than the big population centers of the United States. For example, even though more than 100,000 women live on our overseas bases -- including women in the services, spouses, and relatives of military personnel -- obtaining an abortion at a local military hospital is prohibited. Since there are some 14,000 sexual assaults or attempted sexual assaults each year in the military, women who become pregnant overseas and want an abortion have no choice but to try the local economy, which cannot be either easy or pleasant in Baghdad or other parts of our empire these days.
Our armed missionaries live in a closed-off, self-contained world serviced by its own airline -- the Air Mobility Command, with its fleet of long-range C-17 Globemasters, C-5 Galaxies, C-141 Starlifters, KC-135 Stratotankers, KC-10 Extenders, and C-9 Nightingales that link our far-flung outposts from Greenland to Australia.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka |
12.24.05 - 12:37 pm | #
Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore
Your stupid made-in-China magnetic car ribbon won't get you into heaven anymore, either.
Dr. Pedant |
12.24.05 - 12:39 pm | #
Which one has a nicer lilt to it. in your opinion ?
Jon | Email | 12.24.05 - 12:22 pm | #
I'm reminded of an interview tv star Michael J. Fox gave years ago informing us that when he first entered the business he deliberately omitted his middle initial 'A' and changed it to 'J' on his applications and on his resume because, being Canadian, he didn't want people to hear Michael 'A' Fox for worries that people would instead hear it as Michael 'eh' Fox.
This simply put the whole 'eh' thing in a very humorous perspective. Specially when the Simpsons makes fun of Canadians and watching episodes of 'The Kids in the Hall' which I consider to be one of the funniest shows ever put out.
No offense was meant Jon. Just joking around on this supposedly festive day.
For generals and admirals, the military provides seventy-one Learjets, thirteen Gulfstream IIIs, and seventeen Cessna Citation luxury jets to fly them to such spots as the armed forces' ski and vacation center at Garmisch in the Bavarian Alps or to any of the 234 military golf courses the Pentagon operates worldwide. Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld flies around in his own personal Boeing 757, called a C-32A in the Air Force.
Our "Footprint" on the World
Of all the insensitive, if graphic, metaphors we've allowed into our vocabulary, none quite equals "footprint" to describe the military impact of our empire. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Richard Myers and senior members of the Senate's Military Construction Subcommittee such as Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) are apparently incapable of completing a sentence without using it. Establishing a more impressive footprint has now become part of the new justification for a major enlargement of our empire -- and an announced repositioning of our bases and forces abroad -- in the wake of our conquest of Iraq. The man in charge of this project is Andy Hoehn, deputy assistant secretary of defense for strategy. He and his colleagues are supposed to draw up plans to implement President Bush's preventive war strategy against "rogue states," "bad guys," and "evil-doers." They have identified something they call the "arc of instability," which is said to run from the Andean region of South America (read: Colombia) through North Africa and then sweeps across the Middle East to the Philippines and Indonesia. This is, of course, more or less identical with what used to be called the Third World -- and perhaps no less crucially it covers the world's key oil reserves. Hoehn contends, "When you overlay our footprint onto that, we don't look particularly well-positioned to deal with the problems we're now going to confront."
Once upon a time, you could trace the spread of imperialism by counting up colonies. America's version of the colony is the military base. By following the changing politics of global basing, one can learn much about our ever larger imperial stance and the militarism that grows with it. Militarism and imperialism are Siamese twins joined at the hip. Each thrives off the other. Already highly advanced in our country, they are both on the verge of a quantum leap that will almost surely stretch our military beyond its capabilities, bringing about fiscal insolvency and very possibly doing mortal damage to our republican institutions. The only way this is discussed in our press is via reportage on highly arcane plans for changes in basing policy and the positioning of troops abroad -- and these plans, as reported in the media, cannot be taken at face value.
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12.24.05 - 12:40 pm | #
Just joining the thread, and thinking hard and with great fear, as a lawyer and as a historian, about the new Alito memos. There's a theme to Alito's writings -- incremental shifts toward totalitarian goals -- that is really, really scary.
ATRIOS:
This isn't ordinary blogwhoring; I'm really concerned and haven't seen anyone lay it out yet. I just blogged on this, legally and historically analyzing the remarkable ramifications of what Alito proposes, and how it would affect the domestic spying cases that will be coming. He may be the key vote there, and the wrong decision could be a very huge step towards making our country a totalitarian state. Please take a look.
Part of it says:
Whatever his goal is -- criminalizing abortion, granting immunity to government officials who violate Americans' civil rights, allowing Presidents to exercise whatever powers they feel they need to exercise -- Alito consistenly recommends an "incremental change" strategy to keep people from protesting. It's like the adage about boiling a frog: toss a frog into boiling water and he'll jump right out; put him in cold water and slowly increase the heat, and he won't notice until it's too late. Alito would move our democracy little by little toward the hell of totalitarianism, and we wouldn't recognize we were being nudged that way until, someday in the future, we noticed the flames and wondered how we got there. Every democracy in history has eventually walked, incrementally and willingly, out of fear, from democracy to totalitarianism. This is what it looks like, and true patriots should do what they can to stop it now.
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12.24.05 - 12:42 pm | #
Armando, please go suck off a horse. Thank you.
Tom Tim |
12.24.05 - 12:42 pm | #
The phoniness of the Rethugs 'limited government', 'rule of law', 'strict constructionist' rhetoric is more blatant than ever as they Nuremberg-rally around Chimp's 1984 imperial power grab.
Unprincipled opportunist assholes, and nothing more.
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12.24.05 - 12:42 pm | #
WoodyG - are you familiar with the strategy developed by the Manchu to run their Empire, including the Qing Dynasty in China?
The Manchu allowed their locals to have their own armies and police, but kept ethnically reliable banner armies in various locations around the empire walled off from the locals to avoid issues of familiarity and tainted loyalties. The bannermen were there to ensure the loyalty of the local armies or crush them if they did decide to stray from the empire.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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12.24.05 - 12:44 pm | #
I'm as surprised as you are that Levins name is on that bill. Being from Michigan, in which Detroit has the nation's largest community of arabs and muslims, it would seem that such an act could be suicidal.
That's like a congressman from the Miami area doing the same thing in regards to cubans.
This is what it looks like, and true patriots should do what they can to stop it now.
T2
Exactly. This is what Guillermo O'Donnell calls the "slow death" of democracy -- it becomes simply a shell of democracy, with elections being the institution that gives it a veneer of respectability.
Elections are the easiest aspect of democracy to implement.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.24.05 - 12:46 pm | #
It's raining... but it must be close to 50F.
What up in yo' hood?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.24.05 - 12:47 pm | #
Well, I'm headed to the bookstore. Does anyone need anything?
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.24.05 - 12:47 pm | #
Marcia Brady ∞Well, I'm headed to the bookstore. Does anyone need anything?
Pick me up something from the "Self Hell" section, pls.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.24.05 - 12:48 pm | #
I like this Barry fellow Atrios links to for the Barron's reference. All my little consumer puppies...this Barry and his 6800 call on the DOW is being TOO optimistic. LOL. Amerika and its ubiquitious dollar...its faith in fiat currencies, "democracies", and small minded misanthropic personal God's who they confuse with the actual one. At least when Amerika implodes, it will have the virtue of NOT littering the countrysides with its worthless coinage. Electronic trasfers, you see, fraction reserve banking and all...Yes...it is a good time to be alive.
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12.24.05 - 12:48 pm | #
The members of the House Judiciary Committee who staged the impeachment of President Clinton ought to be as outraged at this situation.
And if they aren't, they should at least publicly admit they are political stooges with no real values except maintaining and expanding power. That would be great, because then it would all make sense.
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12.24.05 - 12:48 pm | #
Just a quick note wishing you all a merry co-opted Pagan holiday, and a happy arbitrary acknowledgment of the passing of time.
S in Mich |
12.24.05 - 12:50 pm | #
I'm not at all sure Alito can be confirmed now. The stuff we're finding out about Alito combined with the stuff we're finding out about administration misbehavior can in combination reasonably be viewed as an extraordinary circumstance.
lysias |
12.24.05 - 12:51 pm | #
Umass Student lied about mao hound.
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12.24.05 - 12:52 pm | #
Festivus!
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Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 12:52 pm | #
Marcia Brady ? Well, I'm headed to the bookstore. Does anyone need anything?
May I have one of these please?
shawk |
12.24.05 - 12:53 pm | #
I made a fortune reading Barron's. Barron's is as good as gold.
kirk |
12.24.05 - 12:53 pm | #
Try again:
Pennsylvania community celebrates Seinfeld 'festivus' for the rest of us
Fri Dec 23, 8:39 PM ET
ERIE, Pa. (AP) - The celebration of Festivus is alive and well in northwestern Pennsylvania, nearly a decade after the bizarre "holiday" garnered pop culture notoriety on the TV comedy show Seinfeld.
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Residents were preparing to celebrate "the festivus for the rest of us" Friday with a night of airing grievances, feats of strength and, of course, the aluminum Festivus pole.
"It's all in good fun," said Jeff Boam, 36, a math teacher from Millcreek Township and longtime Seinfeld fan.
"More than anything else, it's a great excuse to get together with friends and have outrageous fun," said George Klapsinos, 38, a senior technical service specialist for Lord Corp.
Many people learned of Festivus through Seinfeld but its roots actually go back several decades, when writer Daniel O'Keefe's father started it. He was looking for something more from the holidays, something that wasn't political or religious.
O'Keefe wrote The Real Festivus: The True Story Behind America's Favorite Made-Up Holiday and co-wrote the Seinfeld episode.
In the episode, Frank Costanza, played by actor Jerry Stiller, comes up with the idea for a new holiday after struggling in a tug-of-war for a doll at a toy store.
Festivus' "traditions" differ from those of Christmas.
Instead of a tree, Festivus followers celebrate around a metal pole. Boam's Festivus pole is two metres tall and rooted in bucket of cement.
"No tinsel, no ornaments. Nothing should go on it. It should be bare," Boam said.
Guests also grab the pole and fume about how others have disappointed them in the last year.
"One year, we had a blizzard on the night of the party," Klapsinos said.
"So we grieved about everyone who said they were going to show up but didn't. I mean, we made it, right?"
Finally, the festival features feats of strength.
"This usually means wrestling," said Jack Munch, a real-estate broker.
"I've seen parties where it deteriorates into five people wrestling in the snow in the backyard. The whole thing is a blast."
"You never know what's going to happen on Festivus."
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 12:54 pm | #
my dad just just opened a bottle of champagne.
cause its a family reunion as my brother is here.
and my sister was in Japan last christmas
and of course me being in Swansea, first time in a long time since we were all together.
The members of the House Judiciary Committee who staged the impeachment of President Clinton ought to be as outraged at this situation.
But the spermatozoa that died in Monica's mouth are more valuable than the people who died in Afghanistan and Itaq.
Lime Rickey |
12.24.05 - 12:54 pm | #
Just like the people they admire.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 12:54 pm | #
Fellating aplenty has run rampant in the Bush White House, its just that its gone one in the metaphorical sense rather than the literal one. Clinton asked for and received forgiveness...the Bush monster, on the other hand, keeps whipping his out..waving it in the face of all and sundry. "Suck this," he says, "Or the terrorists will get ye." And to its knees, on uncarpeted floors, falls the nation.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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12.24.05 - 12:55 pm | #
Terry C., I made a fortune reading Barron's.
kirk |
12.24.05 - 12:55 pm | #
Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore
Your stupid made-in-China magnetic car ribbon won't get you into heaven anymore, either.
Following fundie false prophets is guaranteed to send you to hell.
Doug, It from outer space |
12.24.05 - 12:56 pm | #
See ya.
♥
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.24.05 - 12:56 pm | #
I started reading Barron's at age 15. When all the other kids were concerned about fucking. I was learning the black art of capitalism.
kirk |
12.24.05 - 12:57 pm | #
Armando | 12.24.05 - 10:36 am | #
Oh, please shut up.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 12:57 pm | #
Yeah, I know that kid was lying.
arabella |
12.24.05 - 12:57 pm | #
America's version of the colony is the military base.
American military bases are America's version of military bases, which used to be called garrisons.
America doesn't do colonies, unless you count Israel. America does puppet dictatorships.
Gary Sugar |
12.24.05 - 12:58 pm | #
kirk = kal
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 12:58 pm | #
After I got rich, the women fell in my lap like low hanging fruit. Beautiful women are nothing but a by-product of riches.
kirk |
12.24.05 - 12:58 pm | #
his daughter and his ladyfriend will be visiting down on Boxing Day
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 12:58 pm | #
Sure Terry. Every troll is kal.
kirk |
12.24.05 - 12:58 pm | #
Umass Student lied about mao hound.
Yup, which is hardly surprising. The story didn't add up at all.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 12:58 pm | #
Terry C., I made a fortune reading Barron's.
kirk
So...fucking...what?
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 12:58 pm | #
Barron's is using the "i word"!
Yippie-kai-yay to our friends in the White House!
Guess in the next year or two the Washington Post might actually have to poll on that. Whaddya think, Mr. Harris?
Bob Dylan:
All that foreign oil
Controlling American soil
Look around you
It's just bound to
Make you embarrassed
Shieks walkin' around like kings
With their fancy jewels and those rings
Deciding America's future from Amsterdam and-a Paris
There's a slow, a slow train comin'
Up around the bend.
The Impeachment Express is a-gatherin' steam. Big heavy trains are hard to get goin', but once set in motion, are damned hard to stop. And I speak as a physics teacher.
David Derbes |
12.24.05 - 12:59 pm | #
Sure Terry. Every troll is kal.
kirk
Every troll is full of shit.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 12:59 pm | #
Terry C., I admire your quick comment reflexes. You've got presence here.
kirk |
12.24.05 - 1:00 pm | #
About Barrons via wikipedia
Average circulation for the first half of 2004 was 301,230.
Its readership is 90.8% male, average age of 54, 93.8% of whom attended college, 44% of whom are employed in top management, have an average household income of $203,000, average personal income of $171,000, average household net worth of $1,228,000.
nik |
12.24.05 - 1:01 pm | #
Every troll is full of shit.
Every sperm is sacred.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 1:01 pm | #
The trolls are sad because they aren't getting overtime for the holidays.
Like I really believe that kirk has money and beautiful women. Poor schmuck.
arabella |
12.24.05 - 1:01 pm | #
What exactly is Armando's point posting all these BS stories?
As if HIS side NEVER does anything wrong!
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:02 pm | #
I started reading Barron's at age 15.
When all the other kids were concerned about fucking.
I was learning the black art of capitalism.
kirk
I got rich by stuffing envelopes at home. Now I make my two French maids and my Italian sex slave cook do the stuffing.
Lime Rickey |
12.24.05 - 1:02 pm | #
An average household income of 203k? They sound like small businessmen.
Anonymous |
12.24.05 - 1:02 pm | #
Time to consider it? How about time to implement it! Executive totalitarianism must end!
plantsman |
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12.24.05 - 1:03 pm | #
Oh, fuck.
PBS really is headed into the toilet.
"American Experience" Monday night - a wanker fest about St. Ronald of the Monster Deficit.
"American Experience" has become "Fascist Experience."
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:03 pm | #
Moonbootica, I'm guessing that it's called "Boxing Day" because of a tradition that all Christmas presents must be put back in their boxes.
US woman swallows phone in spat
A woman's row with her boyfriend about a mobile phone suddenly went quiet - when she swallowed the handset whole.
Police in Blue Springs, in the US state of Missouri, said they were called out by a man who said his girlfriend was having trouble breathing.
When they arrived at the house, they found a phone lodged in her throat.
"He wanted the phone and she wouldn't give it to him, so she attempted to swallow it," an officer said. The woman was expected to make a full recovery.
The 24-year-old woman was taken to hospital in Blue Springs, Det Sgt Steve Decker told local media.
"She just put the entire phone in her mouth so he couldn't get it," he said.
"This is the first I've heard of this happening," he added.
Plum P |
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12.24.05 - 1:07 pm | #
Donlan wrote this, not Alan Abelson. He's the old, right-wing editor with a libertarian bent.
It's quite extraordinary and it's being noticed this weekend on Wall Street -- Barry Ritholtz of Maxim Investments linked to it today on his blog "bigpicture.typepad.com"
If Wall Street begins to back away from the Preznit, he's really had it...
Slothrop |
12.24.05 - 1:07 pm | #
About Barrons via wikipedia
Average circulation for the first half of 2004 was 301,230.
Its readership is 90.8% male, average age of 54, 93.8% of whom attended college, 44% of whom are employed in top management, have an average household income of $203,000, average personal income of $171,000, average household net worth of $1,228,000.
nik
All Repugnicans, in other words!
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:07 pm | #
I have made a million dollars by reading Barrons,
wait
wait
wait
Shit, where's my million dollars? I typed the words out.
If Hecate sees you comparing a troll to the Willendorf Goddess, she ain't gonna be too happy.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:08 pm | #
Thanks for the Prine info, charley.
As far as that dumb-ass student hoaxer, the worst part about it is that such thoughtless idiocy gives another fig leaf to abusers of power and their knee-jerk supporters.
Expect defenders of unchecked authoritarianism to counter further true reports of governmental abuse by dismissing such reports as more "wolf-crying" by tricksters. Dammit.
Little Brøther |
12.24.05 - 1:09 pm | #
If Wall Street begins to back away from the Preznit, he's really had it...
Slothrop
They're even starting to realize that support for Chimpy is the Kiss of Death.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:10 pm | #
Boxing Day is a public holiday observed in many Commonwealth countries on 26 December. In many European countries it is also a holiday, called St Stephen's Day or the Second Day of Christmas. Strictly defined as the first weekday after Christmas [1], popular usage [2] has more recently maintained that Boxing Day always falls on the 26th, and that its associated public holiday may fall on a different day.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 1:10 pm | #
Well, I'm headed to the bookstore. Does anyone need anything?
Now that the formalities are over with, shut the fuck up already. You assholes calling for impeachment are the same assholes that would be calling for impeachment if the POTUS wasn't doing this and there was another attack. I couldn't be happier that we have leaders looking out for our safety. Besides the absolute foolishness of thinking that this is somehow wrong and, oh my gosh "taking away our civil liberties", you're dreaming if you think most people won't use common sense and say this absolutely required. Oh and btw, all of this bloviating on the "legality" of this is just that, opinions. If it was soooo obviously illegal, where are all the calls for the immediate termination of the practice? How many Dems have stood up and said, stop it right now? ...... That's what I thought.....
"Some ancillary responsibility, however, must be attached to those members of the House and Senate who were informed, inadequately, about the wiretapping and did nothing to regulate it. Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, Democrat of West Virginia, told Vice President Dick Cheney in 2003 that he was "unable to fully evaluate, much less endorse these activities." But the senator was so respectful of the administration's injunction of secrecy that he wrote it out in longhand rather than give it to someone to type. Only last week, after the cat was out of the bag, did he do what he should have done in 2003 -- make his misgivings public and demand more information.
Published reports quote sources saying that 14 members of Congress were notified of the wiretapping. If some had misgivings, apparently they were scared of being called names, as the president did last week when he said: "It was a shameful act for someone to disclose this very important program in a time of war. The fact that we're discussing this program is helping the enemy."..........what a bunch of fucking pussys....We're supposed to rely on these guys to protect our asses.....
Oh, and I guess that the US News and WR's story on monitoring radiation levels is considered illegal and has got your panties in a bunch also.....
please, just STFU already
club Gitmo |
12.24.05 - 1:11 pm | #
There is much dispute over the true origins of Boxing Day, but one common story of the holiday's origins is that servants and tradesmen received Christmas gifts from their employers on the first weekday after Christmas, the day after the family celebrations. These were generally called their "Christmas boxes." Another story is that this is the day that priests broke open the collection boxes and distributed the money to the poor. Another story is that Boxing Day is when all the Christmas decorations go back in their boxes to await next year's festivities.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.24.05 - 1:11 pm | #
Fairy tales pulled off freeper sites (or out of a troll's ass) aren't accurate or worthy of belief in any way.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:11 pm | #
Whaddya think, Mr. Harris?
Somethings happening here
and you don't know what it is,
Do you, Mr. Jones?
Dr. Pedant |
12.24.05 - 1:12 pm | #
please, just STFU already
club Gitmo
Dude, coming in here being abusive, cursing us and telling us to STFU is the same as going to someone else's home and shitting on their living room floor.
Please get lost! You are not wanted here.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:13 pm | #
One student pulls a hoax, so that means it COULDN'T happen.
Bullshit.
Chimpy himself is on record saying he wants this country to be a dictatorship.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:14 pm | #
Are we turning the corner in the war on Christmas yet???
left field |
12.24.05 - 1:14 pm | #
Shorter gitmo in the 1990s:
RULE OF LAW! SQUAWK! RULE OF LAW!
Thers, Second Wise Man |
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12.24.05 - 1:15 pm | #
hello moonbootica
"but one common story of the holiday's origins is that servants and tradesmen received Christmas gifts from their employers on the first weekday after Christmas, the day after the family celebrations. These were generally called their "Christmas boxes."
That's also what I learned in history class!
Plum P |
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12.24.05 - 1:16 pm | #
"Surely the "strict constructionists" on the Supreme Court and the federal judiciary eventually will point out what a stretch this is."
I'll bet Scalia's tounge is bleeding he's been biting it so hard, for fear of having to recuse himself when this shit gets to the court.
Can't wait to hear how he reconciles this with his apolitical interpretive philosophy. My bet: his favorte snap of his, 'Well if people aren't doing anything wrong they have nothing to worry about.'
Orhyvrchcsea |
12.24.05 - 1:16 pm | #
How many Dems have stood up and said, stop it right now? ...... That's what I thought.....
(Oh Jeez, I know better than to argue with Karl's boiler room, but I just can't help myself.)
So that makes it ok? Not. 6 Dems were told, three of them protested, three of them were not told the whole story. Even if they had been, they were adjured to secrecy.
I know I'm wasting my time, but I wonder if you've heard of an old buy named Ben Franklin. He said something about liberty and safety. Look it up and get back to me. And why are you such a scaredy cat, anyway?
please, just STFU already
Oh, well, if you say so...
(By the way, you're not off in Iraq protecting America, why? )
Dr. Pedant |
12.24.05 - 1:17 pm | #
how sad and pathetic of trolls to come here and give us shit on xmas eve
war vs xmas indeed.
what a loser
Plum P |
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12.24.05 - 1:17 pm | #
how sad and pathetic of trolls to come here and give us shit on xmas eve
Karl pays time-and-a-half for holidays.
Dr. Pedant |
12.24.05 - 1:18 pm | #
Terry C:
I guess it's ok that when I post I get of bunch of really mature "Blow me' comments etc...
As you say, it's your house, so I'll stop my cursing as of now.... as long as I receive the same treatment
Now that the formalities are over with, shut the fuck up already. You assholes calling for impeachment are the same assholes that would be calling for impeachment if the POTUS wasn't doing this
Oh Fuck You and Fuck You idiocy.
Y'all are the ones who impeached a president for getting a fucking blow job. This is serious shit here - Bush broke the law, violated the constitution and his oath of office.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 1:21 pm | #
And I'm not going to Shut the Fuck Up about it.
I ordered nice new bumper sticker for my back window:
I guess it's ok that when I post I get of bunch of really mature "Blow me' comments etc...
As you say, it's your house, so I'll stop my cursing as of now.... as long as I receive the same treatment
CG
club Gitmo
And where do YOU get off telling US to shut up?
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:23 pm | #
IMPEACH BUSH - in white on black.
IMPEACHMENT - It's just not for blowjobs anymore.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:23 pm | #
club Gitmo
How pathetic.
Is that name supposed to be cute?
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 1:24 pm | #
I ordered nice new bumper sticker for my back window:
I like it. I seriously do want one that says (quoting myself) "your stupid made-in-China ribbon magnet won't get you into heaven anymore".
Dr. Pedant |
12.24.05 - 1:25 pm | #
"So that makes it ok? Not. 6 Dems were told, three of them protested, three of them were not told the whole story. Even if they had been, they were adjured to secrecy.
I know I'm wasting my time, but I wonder if you've heard of an old buy named Ben Franklin. He said something about liberty and safety. Look it up and get back to me. And why are you such a scaredy cat, anyway?"
1) very, very lame excuse, hence my statement of do we want these guys in charge
2) doesn't make it wrong either, just a statement of fact supporting all the dems in both houses, now that the cat's out of the bag, haven't called for an immediate halt. Why? Do they realize that it's legal? Do they realize that it's a grey area and common sense would say go with protecting our nation. 3) seeming to come out against everything protecting our nation is just another sign of Dems weakness on defense and so for political reasons, they are shutting up. 4) combo of 2 and 3.
btw where is all the outrage of the "leaking" of some of the most highly classified programs, which have probably done severe damage to our national security?......
Dr. Pedant - You can design your own bumper sticker at CafePress.'
If you don't feel like it, dave™ will be more than happy to do it for you.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 1:28 pm | #
club Gitmo - keep whistling past that graveyard, you cult worshipper of Bush.
He's broken the fucking law - federal statute prohibits what he has done.
So does the constitution of the United States. You cult members who put Bush above our democracy should be tried for treason along with Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and the rest.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 1:30 pm | #
Why is Gitmo so afraid? Geez.
Scared of a little liberty?
Freedom has always been risky. Some of us are willing to risk it.
Others just want daddy to make them safe.
However, our officers , Constitutionally holding office, have all pledged under Article VI to preserve, protect, and defend, that same Constitution. Those of us who demand they honor that promise to God (oath of office) are being unreasonable in some way?
I loathe the holiday's.
otto |
12.24.05 - 1:32 pm | #
As you say, it's your house, so I'll stop my cursing as of now.... as long as I receive the same treatment
Fuck off, bitch. You come to my house and put your feet on my furniture, I'm still going to kick them off. Don't tell me that I should let you because my dog's allowed on the couch.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 1:32 pm | #
They're scared because they know he's going down.
And he is - Commander CooCoo Bananas has shot himself in both feet.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 1:32 pm | #
Why is Gitmo so afraid? Geez.
Scared of a little liberty?
He's a thumb sucking bed wetter. Still looking for the boogie man under his bed. Give him his teddy bear and read him a bed time story.
chris/tx |
12.24.05 - 1:32 pm | #
Everbodies an alcoholic in my family.
otto |
12.24.05 - 1:33 pm | #
Everyone in my family is a sensitive brute.
otto |
12.24.05 - 1:34 pm | #
I LOVE the holidays.
And these this year are just about right - I"m going to celebrate the end of this nightmare for all it's worth.
IMPEACH THE ADMINISTRATION!
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 1:34 pm | #
Has anyone ever considered how similar the Bush administration is to The Big Lebowski?
jurassicpork |
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12.24.05 - 1:35 pm | #
I LOVE the holidays. You love the holidays because you're a child of privledge.
otto |
12.24.05 - 1:36 pm | #
The problem with the article in Barrons is that same logic would have forced the impeachment of the beloved Saint Ronnie, the patron saint of gippers everywhere.
Congress specifically said "No money to Contras." Ronnie had said "No to dealing with Terrorists (the Iranians who killed 264 marines in Beruit).
Bush2 is doing the same as has been blessed by the chickenshits in congress before. This is why Patrick Buchanon quacks that nothing will happen this time, either. Personally, I think PaddyWhack is wrong in the current case. The Bill of Rights still has mythical power in the minds of Americans...and will continue to have power until the Rove-Trons figure out a way to link the Bill of Rights to pedaphilia.
"Damntarnation!! Why did the FoundingFatherFuckers have to include religion and guns in the Big 10??? Maybe we can argue that they were listed in terms of relative importance. I mean no one gives a shit about the 9th Amendment, especially after RoveTron2bit. All the RoveTrons can now argue it is unAmerican not to ignore #s 3 through 10! Yes, that is doable..." -- RoveTron64
Semper Fi on all your houses!!!
Dead Last |
12.24.05 - 1:37 pm | #
If I was president I would crush the system of privledge in this country.
otto |
12.24.05 - 1:38 pm | #
You love the holidays because you're a child of privledge.
Yes, you know Tena so well, you goatfucking assmunch.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 1:38 pm | #
Gitmo --
If libs are stupid, why even bother arguing with them? You win nothing. Your point will never be made. You will change no minds. Nobody on the Left believes anything that's being said by anyone on the right, and vice versa. Anyway, you aren't arguing with Senators and Representatives -- you're arguing with bloggers.
Why not join the military and fight with the people who really want to destroy America? Nobody on the Left wants to destroy America -- they're not suicidal, and they don't want to see their families and friends die -- not even to prove the Republicans wrong and/or gain ascendancy. If we're were that fucking crazy, we couldn't even feed ourselves, and our numbers wouldn't equal about half the population.
fondook |
12.24.05 - 1:40 pm | #
If I was president I would crush the system of privledge in this country.
Sounds like a good campaign slogan. Run with it.
NTodd |
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12.24.05 - 1:41 pm | #
earlier I asked:
Can we as American citizens sue George Bush (and Gonzalez I guess..) over the domestic data-mining? Pehaps a massive class action suit. We could get the ACLU to sue BushCo on behalf of us all (or 49% or us or a few hundred thousand or whatever). The harm would be the violaton of the right to privacy established in Griswald and affirmed in Roe and codified into the FISA law and laws against unreasonable search and seizure (these laws against warrentless searches come from the the 4th amendment I'm being told). The remedy would be they would have to tell what Americans they have a file on and if any of those files were a result of warrently searches or taps, they would have to pay and destroy the file.
Since they're data mining everybody, we all have standing. The harm or this monitoring of American without cause would be easy to show..,,
What do you think? Certainly 40 million or so suing Bush for a violation of their constitutional rights would be a helluva news story.
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And I guess at about the same time Mr Soto of The Left Coaster fame was writting this:
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Please... somebody... anybody... who knows the law... does anybody have liability here? Could we get the case into court?
The Truth |
12.24.05 - 1:46 pm | #
Suing is one thing -- winning is another. Also, I'm sure the right has judges who would be willing to let the case get as far as a courtroom just so they could toss it out on primetime.
Suing makes a statement, but remember this -- Ford pardoned Nixon, and Cheney would be the President if Bush weren't.
Better to worry about whether or not Fitz is going to be involved in some kind of "tragic traffic accident" before he gets back to Washington. I'd rather spend the lawsuit money on bodyguards and security for people like him.
fondook |
12.24.05 - 1:51 pm | #
Club Gitmo is a Muslim Jihadist, hating us for our freedoms. It's the only exlanation as to why he's not in Iraq, defending his country.
ronjazz |
12.24.05 - 1:52 pm | #
If this fits anyones music taste for Christmas eve, the BBC is streaming (realplayer, if you don't have it, get it at real.com) Bach Christmas music.
So, I'm supposed to hate the holidays because I'm a child of privilege and you want me to feel guilty.
Ha Ha Ha.
Cheer up, otto - life is good.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 2:04 pm | #
"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is NOT being spied on by a pack of fascist thugs for the "offense" of NOT worshipping their vacuous twit of a figurehead as a deity.
Perhaps I came away with different impressions from MY school civics classes.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 2:07 pm | #
Is it too soon to start calling this "Wiregate"?
Handsome Stranger |
12.24.05 - 2:09 pm | #
Club Gitmo is a Muslim Jihadist, hating us for our freedoms. It's the only exlanation as to why he's not in Iraq, defending his country.
ronjazz
"They hate us for our freedoms"
So, hey, let's give those freedoms all up!
Makes perfect sense to me!
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 2:09 pm | #
Terry C - Talk about not supporting our troops - they're over there getting killed for what Bush and the rest claim is freedom.
So by abrogating our civil liberties here at home the Right is showing our troops the highest level of disrespect they can show.
They've sent them to kill and be killed for a pack of lies, including the one about dying for our way of life - our freedoms.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 2:10 pm | #
As you say, it's your house, so I'll stop my cursing as of now.... as long as I receive the same treatment
I don't even want you in my house....or on this blog.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 2:11 pm | #
Terry C - Talk about not supporting our troops - they're over there getting killed for what Bush and the rest claim is freedom.
So by abrogating our civil liberties here at home the Right is showing our troops the highest level of disrespect they can show.
They've sent them to kill and be killed for a pack of lies, including the one about dying for our way of life - our freedoms.
Tena
The Bush fellaters just don't get that!
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 2:11 pm | #
Terry C - Hell, I don't want them in the country anymore, but there's nothing I can do about that.
But I've never seen such a thorough job of brainwashing in my life. It must be really weird to have no mind of one's own.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 2:12 pm | #
Ooh, my Impeach Bush bumpersticker came in the mail just now.
I'm going to go put it on the car right now.
Tena |
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12.24.05 - 2:14 pm | #
But I've never seen such a thorough job of brainwashing in my life. It must be really weird to have no mind of one's own.
Tena
Brainwashing this crew doesn't take much.
There really isn't much brain to wash.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 2:17 pm | #
"We cannot defend liberty abroad by deserting it at home."
- Edward R. Murrow
Terry C, Elitist Know It All |
12.24.05 - 2:18 pm | #
So, can we finally say with all seriousness that Bush has finally "shit the bed"?
Because it sure stinks in the White House lately...
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MisterX |
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12.24.05 - 2:22 pm | #
"They ought to investigate it, consider it carefully and report either a bill that would change the wiretap laws to suit the president or a bill of impeachment."
"you're either with us, or you're against us."
THeDRiFTeR |
12.24.05 - 3:10 pm | #
So, if I feel afraid of what someone might do, it's okay to kill them, spy on anyone who might help them, torture anyone who might have information about them, or just incarcerate them until I don't feel afraid anymore. Are those the rules now?
Steve Brungard |
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12.24.05 - 3:33 pm | #
Bush has always been interested in Historic Firsts... Let's go for first to be impeached and convicted!
George Johnston |
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12.24.05 - 4:13 pm | #
Who said that trolls are full shit?! They are gods! Especially Finntroll
Kate |
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12.27.05 - 7:18 am | #