I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

First


Second


Halloooo...


sorry to spoil your run, Al!


Hello Deere... Merry Xmas Eve


It's that darned 20 second limit...


Dammit, I just posted on the last thread!


Merry Xmas Eve to you, as well. What's going on? I haven't been on all day...


I'm shooting for...

First

Second

Third

Where will it end?


But so far, I've only made it to "Third."


Gravatarthirteen!!!!!


GravatarMerry Xmas Eve to you, as well. What's going on? I haven't been on all day...

First posts for me today. Just got lucky.

Was on till after midnight yesterday. Me and Marcia Brady. Lots of trolls, kal being the most demented. Was talking in tongues at one point.


GravatarLittle Brøther, I agree w/your post on last thread. Surely, we can, as a country, actually walk and chew gum at the same time, figuratively speaking.


GravatarThis poll on Bush job approval ratings still shows very low ratings.


Gravatarlove to you all

((((((hugs)))))



GravatarI had to accuse him of being a Druid and reciting pagan incantations. It had no effect.

I figured he was in a religous trance, not holy rolling necessarily, but dancing with rattlesnakes and free associating most certainly.


Gravatarkal being the most demented. Was talking in tongues at one point.

No kidding??? I'm almost curious enough to see what that looks like to go back and find it.


GravatarEvening, MoonBats...


GravatarMay I add my wishes for each and everyone here to have a pleasant day tomorrow, and more importantly, a 2006 that we can get out country back closer to what it should be.

Love all you people.
mer


I'm bringing this up from the thread below, because it really is important. This country of ours will never be perfect, there will always be winners and losers. Probably the best we can hope to attain is that there are more winners. We are just too big and diverse to create a nirvana for every citizen, but every citizen should have the right to seek his/her own nirvana, and there is nothing wrong with government aiding in that effort.

And yeah, I know there are limits.


Gravatarhi her eyes!


Gravatarkal reminded me of Robert DeNiro's Max Cady character in Cape Fear, right when he's about to go down.


GravatarRead the letter at informationclearinghouse.info



Letter From a Military Mom: Domestic Spying & Incident of Intimidation of Military Families


By Jack Dalton

12/24/05 "ICH" -- -- It wasn’t that long ago that the military command in Iraq started pulling computer access to various units. Seems some of the troops were writing emails home to family, to friends, to various anti-war groups and the like, and the military was getting a bit disconcerted by that. After all, can’t have your own troops pretty much turning the “official news” on its head now can you? So what do you do? You shut them up and any way that you can. Let them know they are monitored works pretty good.
But, what about the “moms” back home that are writing on the internet? Moms like Robin Vaughan, whose letter detailing her recent experiences with the Department of Defense and the Army is below.

Moms writing back and forth to “sons and daughters” in Iraq, who might “slip” and tell “mom” what life is really like in Iraq; Can’t have that now, can we? What if the “moms” start telling others what their sons and daughters are telling them (at least the ones that are still able to access a computer). Can’t have that people might turn against the war ON Iraq. I guess we better threaten and intimidate the moms so they’ll keep their mouths shut, stay off the internet and just go home and be a mom. Doesn’t matter to the military these moms only wanted to do what moms do, especially military moms, worry and take advantage of the internet to chat with sons and daughters.

This is pretty much what has happened to Robin Vaughan, the mother of a young man who was in Iraq. We have a DoD and Pentagon (military) that has become the foreign policy ‘setter’, and enforcement arm for the Bush/Cheney cabal--(you know, the guy who said, with a smirk, that he broke the law then pretty much asked, what are you going to do about it?)--that is now attempting to eliminate the rights, the very speech of a group of mothers with sons and daughters in Iraq.
(snip)


Gravatarql in ny, amen.


Gravatarhi Sara Deere with the pretty name!


GravatarMerry Christmas everybody! (Iam going to open presents now.)


Gravatarkal reminded me of Robert DeNiro's Max Cady character in Cape Fear, right when he's about to go down.
Al Swearengen

Ah. Great. Horrible, then.


GravatarNo kidding??? I'm almost curious enough to see what that looks like to go back and find it.

Maybe someone can explain something. He kept asking for a new thread, over and over. It was at 650, so it was full. But, when I checked this morning, he barely posted after the new one appeared.

At one point I questioned whether the trolls are getting paid based on the number of threads they post to. Weird.


GravatarJohn posted a great highlights video clip on Jeff Gannon/Guckert at Crooks and Liars. I'm dying for more answers on this one.

"You know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims' families? Took me about a year." -Glenn Beck 9/9/05


GravatarHey Sarah, we're both on at the same time and it's not 4:00 a.m. Of course I'll be off before too long, but I think this is a first.


GravatarAnyway, gotta go buy a present. Just stopped in to check and saw "0" in the thread. Toodles bats...


Gravatarql in ny, damn why did I spell our "out". But you knew what I meant, so thanks. And I do mean it. Half the country (or more) are in our camp. Maybe not active, but I can't see this country being taken over by this administration.


GravatarHey!

Back from dinner at the Italian restaurant. I spent the last half hour watching mass, live, starring Pope Rat.

The Italians love the guy ~ or maybe it's just that the love il Papa.


Gravatari'm going to eat bad food and watch bad television and hopefully go into enough of a comatose state and be able to sleep through the insufferable insomnia that has plagued me since the stolen election.

peace to all

and to all a good night.


GravatarEditoress

that piece about Robin Vaughan is appalling.


GravatarI made my own IMPEACH bumpersticker...just used a huge font and printed it on paper. So, of course it doesn't stick, and will go in the back window instead of the bumper. So, ok, it isn't really a bumpersticker I guess, but it will do the job until we get stickers that say "Impeachment-not just for blowjobs".....


GravatarI thought it was pretty cool when the singing reindeers link in the last thread led to Santa belting out 9-inch nails. Then I realized my son's profile was still running and when I turned off mute, it went to his playlist.

Hahaha.


Gravatarbe able to sleep through the insufferable insomnia that has plagued me since the stolen election.

No food after 5 pm. Exercise to point of fatigue are two things that work very well for me.

Unfortunately, anger and resentment don't succumb to those remedies very well. Hope it's not that.


Gravatarwhat percent of world gdp goes to defend ourselves from ourselves? if you put a lounge chair on the moon and looked down at earth you would have to laugh. like bucky fuller said. the technology exists so that everyone can be rich. we can't all have the mona lisa. but free food and shelter, definitely


GravatarOkay, I'm off. Dinner will be coffee cake and dried apricots. Shall I have beer or wine. Decisions, decisions. May I can find a Christmas Carol on the tube.


Gravatarher eyes - peace - and may you sleep blissfully, deeply, fully!

'Night, Al. I'll check to see if I can find that kal post.

ql - yeah, I know. Good to "see" you, though, if only for a while!


GravatarSo there's a new thread.

Merry christmas to all of you leaving! Thanks you for being here!


Gravatarmena, back at you. I'll be on and off, mostly lurking. You can see what a scintillating conversasionalist I am...


Gravatarhrrm. relatively content-free day. been listening to good blues while finishing the xmas shopping.

I'd be interested in seeing Atrios back up his assertion that "(o)nce upon a time good jobs came with good pensions". It's my impression that retirement is a relatively modern phenomenon coincident with the dramatic increase in life expectancy in the 20th century.

I agree that the ultimate issue here is actuarial soundness. But we should be careful not to develop a mythological history of "good jobs with good pensions" extending indefinitely into the past.

One particular reason for being careful about advocacy of lavish pensions is the generous pensions granted to retirees from the armed forces, many of whom are just approaching the peaks of their careers when they leave the military after twenty years' service. In my opinion it would be far more just to scale back military retirement pensions and concomitantly increase disability pensions and medical funding for the Veterans' Administration.


GravatarSame here Sarah. And, as a matter of fact, yes, you are.

Merry christmas!


GravatarHere is some cheese to feed the stinking trolls.


GravatarFriends, please don't tell our little rocket scientist friend (Ferris Valyn) there's a new thread.
He's busy arguing with himself on the previous one. Thanks.

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GravatarHello from the monastery, vespertilionis lunae!

I've been too busy to stop by today & now should go off to help with the tree & try to take a brief nap before Midnight Mass (beings with Nocturns at 11:30 & followed by a pittance in the refectory -- Angelus, Lauds & the Day mass of the Nativity @ 9:10 -- you are alll invited!)


GravatarAgent Orange - three letters. W. T. F.



GravatarHappy Christmas Prior!



My goodness, it's like I've got the place to myself, almost. *skipping around, humming*


GravatarHappy December, everybody!


GravatarHappy christmas to you Prior Aelred!


GravatarSometimes I find myself in awe that I ever found Eschaton. All you smart, funny, off-the-wall people are just grand. Makes me feel okay that I still live in America.

Off to eat some dinner. Feel-ease-knob-ee-dob.


GravatarHappy Holidays!


GravatarMan spends 15 months in custody without a lawyer -- for contempt of court. Only in Bobo's World:
....And Justice For All


GravatarHappy Holidays to all!

Gotta go; I'm helping Santa wrap gifts...


GravatarMan spends 15 months in custody without a lawyer -- for contempt of court.

Wow. I would think you would have to literally wipe your ass with the court to get that much time.


GravatarThe Italians love the guy ~ or maybe it's just that the love il Papa.
Vicki


Well, he lived across the street from the Vatican for 10 years when he was working there. He's become somewhat familiar with the Roman way of living.

Also, he LOVES cats. He was followed around by strays all the time, because he was the softest touch in Rome for the stray cat population.


GravatarHappy Holidays!
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Haven't you got anything without meat in it?


Possibly the meatloaf.


GravatarWASHINGTON (AFP) - The former top aide to then-secretary of state Colin Powell has reportedly emerged as an increasingly high-profile and vocal critic of US administration policy at home and abroad.

Lawrence Wilkerson, who was Powell's chief-of-staff, "says his decision to speak in the open about the policy wars of the first Bush term was slow in coming, but a major factor was the revelations about Abu Ghraib, which he said he realized ... had resulted from decisions on prisoner treatment and intelligence set shortly after September 11, 2001," the New York Times reported.

"What I saw was a cabal between the vice president of the United States, Richard Cheney, and the secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld, on critical issues that made decisions that the bureaucracy did not know were being made," the paper recalled Wilkerson saying in a speech at the New America Foundation in October.

"And you've got a president who is not versed in international relations and not too much interested in them either," he added, according to the Times.

The report said Wilkerson has been "assailing the president as amateurish, especially compared to the first President Bush, and describing the administration as secretive, inept and courting disaster at home and abroad. Nor has he spared his former boss, who he says was overly preoccupied with 'damage control' for policies set by others."

A retired Army colonel, Wilkerson "has also attacked the Bush administration for allegedly condoning torture and setting lax policies on treatment of detainees that led, he charges, to the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and the black eye they gave to the United States Army," the report said.

if this has already been posted i appologize. i just can't get enough of real military personnel, (not rapists and fucking sickos), who want to puke shit over what the cheney administration is doing.


GravatarHiya, bats.
Not really here, hiding from family party.

Happy holiday!


GravatarMerry Christmas, rational people, or, if you prefer, happy Saturday night.


GravatarNYMary,

upstate or downstate?


GravatarFerris is typing away upstairs and I'm keeping him busy.

Merry Merry Happy Happy Joy Joy


GravatarHappy Krimble to you
Happy Krimble to you
Happy Krimble, Happy Krimble
Merry Rudolph, me too!


GravatarFerris is typing away upstairs and I'm keeping him busy.

Merry Merry Happy Happy Joy Joy
arabella


Oh bless you. I think the young man has been sniffing the airplane glue again.
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GravatarMerry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, festive Festivus, joyous Yule, and happy Kwanzaa to all, and may all our dreams of love, peace, and joy come true.

I've got a pot of chili simmering on the stove for a little later; spouse is taking a nice long nap (and so are the kitties). We'll be heading out after while to sing Midnight Mass (which really is at midnight in our parish) and then drink champagne with the fellow choristers. And it's 37 and rainy in Chicago tonight.

That's what's going on here. How's by you all, my batties?


GravatarHappy Winter Solstice.

Pray that the Goddess brings hhooror into Bill O'Reilly's world


GravatarArabella,

You are a saint. Allow me to help with your normal tasks:

Bush: drf.


GravatarThat pesky little James Madison burns the bush administration argument 217 years (Jan. 19, 178 before they make it.


Gravatarhi tena


Gravatarfunny... that smiley is supposed to be 1788 and then a close paren )


Gravatarhey sarah, i got brand new puppy dawg for christmas.


GravatarMerry christmas/happy holiday NYMary et al!


GravatarThank God they're getting serious.

"Pricing of Music Downloads Is Probed"


Gravatari got a kitty cat too.


GravatarEverybody was still at the news (I've refused to watch network news since BushBoyz stole the 2000 election), so I'm back for a bit

mena -- did you ever get to see the pictures of our kitties? I can always try posting a link here (as I did a few nights back)


GravatarSteve - What kind of dog did you get? Rescue?


GravatarOK.....beat the shit out of me, but why is it bad that the Feds have been looking for nukes in a low-key fashion that does not involve kicking in doors and hurting people?

This is not about the illegal communications intercepts, which I have despised since the days of J. Edgar Hoover, and still do -- this is just about the search for nuclear materials in places where they shouldn't be.

If you're going to shred me, do not mistake any ensuing silence from me as chagrin; I have to go to the market, and won't be back for awhile.


GravatarHappy December, everybody!


Hiya Eli!

Happy holidays everyone. I'm cooking and watcing Ghost Busters.

Still a great film.


Gravatari'm so excited, this is the best christmas ever.


Gravatarhey sarah, i got brand new puppy dawg for christmas.
steve simels


Really? How wonderful for you! What kind?

Jeez, you must have really been good.


Gravatarhi four legs, merry christmas.


GravatarThere really IS a Santa Claus!

Everybody got something.

The Mashpee Wampanoags, famed for greeting the Pilgrims at Plymouth, will probably be named a nationally recognized tribe -- a designation they've sought for 30 years to benefit from federal aid programs.

Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist embroiled in a Washington corruption scandal, and his firm championed the Indians' cause and pocketed tens of thousands of dollars in tribal money.

And Rep. Richard Pombo, R-Tracy, chairman of the influential House Resources Committee, landed a lucrative source of political donations: the small group of American Indians whose ancestral lands are about as far from his Northern California district as one can get in the United States.

The trifecta of money, politics and power that quietly came together over the last several years has attracted the attention of a federal law enforcement task force investigating the burgeoning Abramoff scandal.

FBI officials have visited the tribal offices in Mashpee to obtain financial documents, and other task force investigators in Washington are reviewing what role political leaders and others played in the Mashpees' success.

Where the investigation will lead is unknown. But several people close to Abramoff already have pleaded guilty in other aspects of the wide-ranging scandal. In recent days, several Capitol Hill lawmakers, including Pombo, have returned donations from Abramoff or turned the money over to charity.

Officials do know that the flow of cash from the Mashpees to Abramoff and Pombo is a textbook example of the kind of cases of alleged influence-buying that the task force is assembling...


GravatarArabella,

Now ask him what his grades are like...GPA and all that stuff.
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Gravatarhi fondook.


Gravatarhey everybody, we can all watch the pope together tonite. it'll be great. i can't wait.


GravatarNot really here, hiding from family party.


I'm considering blowing off my family and mailing their presents instead.

I know, that's bad.


Gravatar6:00! Time to make me a drink.

Then wrap Melissa's presents, some time before 8.

***HAPPY HOLIDAYS*** all, y'all!

* ** ***
** *** * (snow flakes)
*** * * **

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GravatarPrior - nope. Hasn't come through. The shift supervisor must still be passing it around. Happy christmas, if you didn't see it above.


GravatarOK


Gravatarhi dave, fondook.


GravatarOK.....beat the shit out of me, but why is it bad that the Feds have been looking for nukes in a low-key fashion that does not involve kicking in doors and hurting people?

Um, because they were entering private property without a warrant to do so?

That pesky fourth amendment keeps getting in the way of fascist dirtbags.


GravatarSimels without an email and funny carriage returns?

Call me suspicious...


GravatarI think that's a fake simels.


Gravatarmy puppy and kitty cat are playing together.


Gravatarmerry christmas dave.


GravatarIt's fake simels, forgot he went out an hour or so ago.


GravatarTell us about the puppy dawg & kitty cat, steve simels! We all want to go awwwww . . . .


GravatarSince hell-o-scan is messing with me I think I'll go back to cooking.


Gravatarthis is the best christmas ever. i don't want it tend.


GravatarIt's the same idiot who was namestealing me last night.

Merry christmas!


Gravatarif it's a fake simels at least it seems benign so far.


Gravatarhi chris


Gravatarthe whole family is having grandma's peacan pie. mmmmmmmm


GravatarOK.....beat the shit out of me,

If you insist...

but why is it bad that the Feds have been looking for nukes in a low-key fashion that does not involve kicking in doors and hurting people?

It's better than knocking in doors, but it's still going way beyond their authority. People might not be so sensitive to it if it weren't of a piece with Bush's "We don't need no stinking warrants" approach to electronic surveillance.


Gravatarmerry christmas strawhat.


Gravatarthat is a fake Steve Simels folks


Gravatari got my nephews remote controll cars. were outside playing with them. the kitty was scared of it.


GravatarIf he is, at least he's a pleasant and relatively innocuous drunk.

Greetings, gang! Merry Whatever!


Gravatarsimels envy


GravatarArabella

Three questions for the little rocket scientist...

If he was stuck on Mars for one year with one person, who would that person be?

Who's his favorite astronaut?

Even though 1 out of every 50 astronauts who's boarded the shuttle has been killed (that'll make his head explode) would he take the chance and go?
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Gravatarthat is a fake Steve Simels folks

i knew Steve Simels wasn't real, i hate this holiday...


Gravatari just got another piece of pie.


GravatarOfficials do know that the flow of cash from the Mashpees to Abramoff and Pombo is a textbook example of the kind of cases of alleged influence-buying that the task force is assembling...
dave™ - 7:07 pm


personally i'd rather see DICK Pombo's shark-severed head wash up on Stinson Beach...

but this'll do


GravatarNow, if s/he was namestealing Chauncy Gardiner....


Gravatarhey sarah, i got brand new puppy dawg for christmas.
steve simels

awww!!!! What did you get, what kind of pup? Color? Going to be big or medium or small critter? Name??


Gravatarif it's a fake simels at least it seems benign so far.

it's the kal-2000


Gravatarsteve - and a k itty, too?? Geez, you really WERE a good boy!!


Gravatarfilkertom, did you say Saucy Gardiner?
Now she was a hand full of woman


GravatarMUCH wooman!


Gravatarhey everybody, we can all watch the pope together tonite. it'll be great. i can't wait.
steve simels |

Okay - crap. This is not steve s. NOT his format.


Gravatarok, gotta take nanna home. merry christmas everyone!


Gravatar"Imagine Karl Rove on methamphetamines"



MUST we?


GravatarAgent Orange - I can't do that to the guy.


Gravatarhey everybody, we can all watch the pope together tonite. it'll be great. i can't wait.
steve simels |

Okay - crap. This is not steve s. NOT his format.
Sarah Deere



He doesn't give a flying fuck about Pope Ratzo, either!


GravatarI offer my fond good wishes to those who celebrate Christmas tomorrow

within the ambit of the well-nigh universal festivities that accompany the seasonal notices...

joy to all of you (you shitwhistling trools excepted)
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Gravatarmena--

well pooh!

try this

Abbey Cats

AND

David Derbes points out that I SHOULD have said, "lunae verspertiliones"

I was always terrible at classical languages -- you all know the story of Oscar Wilde who was doing his orals in "Greats" ("classics") & was reading aloud and translating from John's Gospel -- Jesus before Pilate & the don says, "Very well, Mr. Wilde, that will do," and Oscar holds up his hand and says, "Pray, let us see what becomes of the unfortunate man."


GravatarAgent Orange - I can't do that to the guy.
arabella |


Yeah I think it's reached the point where the cat stops playing with the dead mouse and just walks away.
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GravatarDammit. Where's shoelimpy when you need him. I'd love it if annieangel showed up to talk to rocket scientist Ferris. He'd love annie.

Gotta run back upstairs.


GravatarHappy christmas John. Mucho amor.


GravatarHappy Merry, WGG. Dunno how much everyone's gonna be here the next couple of days, including me, but it's nice to say hi to everybody.


GravatarDiane, how is it in your part of the world?
It does not look as if I will make it much farther than AZ. nd Utah this coming year.


GravatarTeddy probably should have waited a week before using this story as fact. And maybe slowed down on his drinking as well.

http://www.boston.com/news/local..._tale_revealed/


GravatarBush Job overall approval ratings

Approve 40%
Disapprove 56%

The way Bush handles the economy

Approve 36%
Disapprove 59%

Pretty bad, but not surprising.



So WHY are 39-40% of the country STILL so STUPID?


Gravatarif it's a fake simels at least it seems benign so far.

"so far" being the operative words.

Fuck.

Of course, this just reflects real life where there is precious little peace because there's always some shitheel who wants to come foul it up.

I don't particularly care for CS Lewis, but it's mainly because I am not Xian. He meant well in many ways. However, I did read his sci-fi triology, and in Perelandra, he portrayed the devil (or Evil) as something just fouling things mindless, for no particular reason, like when he (it) ripped open these beautiful rainbow frogs with his long sharp talons methodically, like one would snap beans.

So, for me there's a parallel here, with trolls who want to come in even on Xmas eve just to fart or throw up or do something stupidly foul just for the sake of doing it.

Anyway, b leeding, itching hemorrhoids for them, just as I daily wish for Boosh et al.


GravatarDavid Corn is making Linda Chavez look like the goon she happens to be.


GravatarPrior - oh, thank you. What a lovely christmas present - to meet those lovely kitties. What a lovely life you must lead.


GravatarAlgonquin J. Calhoun



Like your boy, Bush, doesn't drink.


Gravatarbill -- where? Link?


GravatarDavid Corn is making Linda Chavez look like the goon she happens to be.
bill



Linda Chavez = Reagan Regime Double Token


Gravatar"lunae verspertiliones"
==

I've always wished I'd studied Latin. So 'bats' means 'livers in twilight'?


GravatarLinda Chavez
I'd fuck her.


GravatarWishing everyone a merry co-opted Pagan holiday, and a happy arbitrary acknowledgment of the passing of time.


Gravatarwith trolls who want to come in even on Xmas eve just to fart or throw up or do something stupidly foul just for the sake of doing it.

Anyway, bleeding, itching hemorrhoids for them, just as I daily wish for Boosh et al.
Sarah Deere


They have to be the turds in the punch bowl.


GravatarWishing everyone a merry co-opted Pagan holiday, and a happy arbitrary acknowledgment of the passing of time.
S in Mich
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Perfect. Yes!


Gravatari knew Steve Simels wasn't real, i hate this holiday...
focus, wisher of well - 7:14 pm


any decent waves today?

when i was married, the (last) mrs-prof-dr. wgg and i would frequently visit her parents in morro bay either for christmas or newyears, in alternating years (my parents were along the way). we left CA in '84, but i remember catching big surf at the rock at xmas '83...

i also caught a skeg in the leg that morning, which started to really hurt about Santa Maria, and was really unpleasant by the time we hit goleta...emergency room; 7 stitches, three deep, to close it up...still aches in that cold north pacific water...


GravatarHe doesn't give a flying fuck about Pope Ratzo, either!
Terry C, Elitist Know It All

well, yeah, THAT, too


Gravatarstill aches in that cold north pacific water...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar

yes, dear, we become human barometers, don't we? And very wx-sensitive.

I, myself, worry about Xtreme sports people, and those skateboarders!!! Geez!!! Are they ever gonna be sorry they have beat the living crap out of their joints.....


Gravatar'livers in twilight'

'dwellers' might be a less visceral interpretation???

luv ya too, roadie...


Gravatarspeaking of slowing down someone's drinking:


http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...2/ 24.html#a6459


Gravatar"Like your boy, Bush, doesn't drink."

Not for many years.


Gravatarpersonally i'd rather see DICK Pombo's shark-severed head wash up on Stinson Beach...

Stinson Beach! One of my favorite places of yore. Spent many a fun day there in the early '80s, body surfing mostly. Did lots of salmon fishing offshore later in the '80s. Miss Stinson, and the drive up past Olema and over to Marshall and Tomales Bay.

Two words, BBQ Oysters!


GravatarI think Ferris is done for the night. Poor guy. Spending Christmas Eve on a blog where he doesn't know anybody talking about space colonies.


Gravatar"speaking of slowing down someone's drinking:"

Now there's a credible source. Reinforces my position on not even possessing a television set.


Gravatar"City Confidential" is doing a story on the murder of an Ethiopian man by white supremacists.

What a bunch of cowards Skinheads are.


GravatarHi, uh......Steve.

You were kal and me early this a.m, weren't you?


GravatarWoody - I thought so too, once I saw it.


GravatarNow there's a credible source. Reinforces my position on not even possessing a television set.
Algonquin J. Calhoun



Oh, you're SOOOOOOOOOOOO superior!


GravatarBUSH SPENDS ALL DAY ON PHONE WITH TROOPS.
RUMSFELD SERVES DINNER TO TROOPS.


GravatarAnybody give/get any cool presents yet?

Got some socks last nite and Santa (me) got us some nice and need dinner plates.

Mellisa's gonna get a Targus LapTop carring case tonite and torrow morning, a silver Braclet with Rubys and tiny Diamonds.

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GravatarRe: the holiday. I came across a cartoon I loved not too long ago that showed a fountain with geezers wading in it, and the caption was "The Wonderful Fountain of However You Happen to be at the Time".

I think that's kinda how I view Xmas (and other holidays): The Wonderful Holiday of Whatever you Happen to Believe.

I realize this would be - unfortunately - offensive to the deeply and uncompromisingly religious, but it makes sense to me.

Anyway, in this pluralistic light, I wish each and every one of you the very very best, with extra special good wishes for the coming year.

And - thanks so much for the privilege to be among you.

You guys have been a wonderful refuge for me in these weird times. And a terrific resource, as well.


GravatarTwo words, BBQ Oysters!
Al Swearengen - 7:35 pm


two more: Great Whites

they hunt the sea lions around in between there and the Farallons.


Gravatar"Like your boy, Bush, doesn't drink."

Not for many years.
Algonquin J. Calhoun


And what color is the sky in YOUR world????????????


GravatarNow there's a credible source. Reinforces my position on not even possessing a television set.

Um, you did see the humour in that... right?


GravatarBUSH SPENDS ALL DAY ON PHONE WITH TROOPS.
RUMSFELD SERVES DINNER TO TROOPS.
queef



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!


GravatarSpending Christmas Eve on a blog where he doesn't know anybody talking about space colonies.

Have no idea who this is, but try this:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/luf-team/


Gravatar"So WHY are 39-40% of the country STILL so STUPID?"

I don't know, ask your friends.


GravatarNow there's a credible source. Reinforces my position on not even possessing a television set.

Um, you did see the humour in that... right?
SteveNS



Dude, you're talking about someone who actually believes that Bush is no longer a pathetic drunk.


GravatarNSA Web site says it's a violation of the 4th Amendment to spy on Americans

Merry fucking xmas George.


Gravatarevening moonbats, and a festive annual orgy of christian psychological excess to you all.

the days are getting longer, and the hours of enforced herd merriment are getting very short indeed. reasons to celebrate!

the family is here. we will all be going to see king kong as our way of celebrating; then home to a meal of home made pasta sauce and gallons of duvel.

no tree, no gifts, a few lights, and plenty of hanging out together and enjoying one another's company for the next couple of weeks.

peace on earth, moonbats.


Gravatar"So WHY are 39-40% of the country STILL so STUPID?"

I don't know, ask your friends.
Algonquin J. Calhoun


My friends and I are among the 60-61%, trollie!


GravatarA nice sentiment, beautifully expressed, Sarah Deere.

The same to you in return!


GravatarSpending Christmas Eve on a blog where he doesn't know anybody talking about space colonies.





Can we send all trolls there?


GravatarI sign on to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays and Al is trolling?!

Geez.


Anyway, Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone here.

And the best and happiest New Year.

Love, pie


GravatarIt does not look as if I will make it much farther than AZ. nd Utah this coming year.
Johnjs


John,

Beautiful summer day here (upper 80's), not bad for Christmas Eve.


GravatarIt does not look as if I will make it much farther than AZ. nd Utah this coming year.
Johnjs


John,

Beautiful summer day here (upper 80's), not bad for Christmas Eve.


GravatarWhat does Bill O'Reilly have against me?


GravatarOoh, BBQ oysters = NW springtime. Mmmmmm....


Sarah - I hope you realize how much you're valued here.


GravatarHello...
back for a moment.

Cranberry bread is in the oven.

Cherry bread just requires me to mix it up ~ the cherries and pecans are chopped.

Need to wait for my baby bread pans to recycle themselves from the cranberry bread.

I have Lawrence Welk Christmas on the tv. It reminds me of my grandma and grandpa.

Have yourselves a merry little Christmas now.


GravatarI'd wish all of you a merry Christmas but I'm not a Christian, so.....

Here's hoping you all have a lovely evening.


GravatarChecking out the thread downstairs.

Old Ferris sure killed that, didn't he?


GravatarAl, Ferris was a guy who showed up on the thread upstairs. He wanted a "serious" discussion of his idea that the colonization of space should be part of the Democratic platform.

That yahoo link was amazing. I know that there's all kinds of interests, but...

Ferris needs a place on the internet where he can hang out and be comforable. He seems to have thought that this place was part of the Democratic base, and that he could get his platform "plank" into general discussion.

Poor, poor guy.


Gravatartwo more: Great Whites

they hunt the sea lions around in between there and the Farallons


Grew-up surfing from Santa Cruz north. Body surfed Stinson, which never felt that comfortable because there's shark warnings there fairly frequently (or were during the early '80s). Dead seals would wash up half eaten now and again.

Never saw a GW, even when fishing outside the gate. Saw a thresher once, but that's about it. One thing though was certain when out on the boats, however, you knew you didn't want to go in the water.


GravatarHappy Holidays.

If Bill O'Wanker doesn't like that, too bad!


GravatarMerry christmas Pie and Vicki! Keep warm up there!


GravatarHappy Holidays or Merry Christmas.


GravatarSteveNS

((thanks))


GravatarMena, Merry Christmas back at you! And pie, too!

We actually saw 44 degrees today!

Yes!


Gravatar'livers in twilight'

Are you disparaging my drinking?


GravatarHugs, pie and Tena, Sarah and mena!


GravatarHappy Christmas/etc. to all those on the eastern side of the Pond!


GravatarHaloscan ate my ost (sigh!)

mena -- you can navigate from that link to information about the monastery -- you can also click my Homepage & then the Abbey Letter link & turn pages until you get to the kitties

Xena was very rambunctious today (not that that today special) -- she cannnot stand it if another cat is getting attention & she isn't!


Gravatarmena, it's been warm today, but having my family home would make it downright toasty, regardless of the temperature.


GravatarAnd agave - you and Melissa seem to be blessed with each other. Thank you for sharing it with us. And goodnight for at least a while, everybody. Happy whatever you celebrate, and Peace!


GravatarBuddy the Pink Nosed Pit Bull/Full-Time Truck Dawg gave me

that ($135) 18v ryobi combo package with the folding tool kit...

Mischief and Dix went halfsies and got me a small flask of the Glenfiddich...

Hanna/Stella, queen of the night, graciously agreed not to pull so strenuously when we go for walks because resisting her pulling stresses my already troublesome sciatic nerve...

i may go and finish installing a bunch of hardy-backer tomorrow; or not...

and my chance of gettin' lucky tonight is diminishing by the hour...

altogether an unexceptional state of affairs...
.


GravatarAnd more hugs for Vicki, Prior, and Terry C!

And anyone else who wants hugs. Even the trolls and name stealers. What the hey -- it's Christmas.


Gravatar"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is NOT being spied on by a pack of fascist thugs for the "offense" of NOT worshipping their vacuous twit of a figurehead as a deity.

Perhaps I came away with different impressions from MY school civics classes.

"They hate us for our freedoms."

So, hey, let's give those freedoms all up!

Sure makes perfect sense to me!


GravatarAnd more hugs for Vicki, Prior, and Terry C!



Right back at ya!


GravatarAnd anyone else who wants hugs. Even the trolls and name stealers. What the hey -- it's Christmas.
filkertom


I love your sense of reason!

Hugs to you, my dear man!


GravatarAl,
Re: Great White Sharks

Hiked Ano Nuevo with some other tourists one time to see the elephant seals and their pups. One lady asked the docent why the seals were so stupid as to whelp where there were great white sharks...

When I remember that, I understand better how things have gone so awry in general.


GravatarOoh, BBQ oysters = NW springtime. Mmmmmm....

Tony's, in Marshall as I recall. Great "fresh" oyster stew. BBQ's too, right off the grill.

My fave was a restaurant farther on, near the mouth of Tomales on the north side. Not the Marshall Inn. Was used as location in Bandits. Great place to drive for a Sunday seafood dinner. Rustic, quaint and out of the way and on the water.

Had to be there.


Gravatar"dwellers in twilight" seems a pretty good description of bats, don't you think?

Vicki -- you say you have Lawrence Welk on the TV -- I would just like to ask, WHY?


GravatarMaybe this moment requires a solemn hit off the penis bong.


Gravatarfilkertom, hugs!!!!


GravatarOne lady asked the docent why the seals were so stupid as to whelp where there were great white sharks...

LOL. Same question why those Iraqi civilians keep getting under U.S. bombs.


GravatarSpeaking of sharks, I saw Open Water the other night.

Really terrifying.


GravatarNollaig shona duit, all


Gravatarmena

You're welcome.

Posole is looking good. Getting deep red, almost looks dangerous.

.


GravatarKeep it up, Bennie.

Keep on driving women out of there.

VATICAN CITY - Pope Benedict XVI offered a Christmas prayer for peace in the Holy Land on Sunday and made a special mention of children, including the unborn, as he led his first midnight Mass in the splendor of St. Peter's Basilica.

Benedict's reference to the unborn in his homily was a clear reference to the Roman Catholic Church's opposition to abortion.

"God is so powerful that he can make himself vulnerable and come to us as a defenseless child, so that we can love him," Benedict said, referring to the birth of Jesus. He said that "something of the splendor" of Christmas "shines on every child, even on those still unborn." Reading his homily slowly, Benedict stressed the word "every" in his reference to children.

"On this night, when we look toward Bethlehem, let us pray in a special way for the birthplace of our Redeemer and for the men and women who live and suffer there," the pope said. "We wish to pray for peace in the Holy Land."

At the start of the service, a dozen children brought flowers up to the center altar, placing them near a statue depicting baby Jesus as a choir of adults and youths sang hymns.

Benedict wore gold-colored robes and blessed the crowd when he arrived, striding up the central aisle of the basilica, which was packed with pilgrims, tourists and Romans.

For the overflow, two giant screens were set up in St. Peter's Square, which was made festive with a 100-foot high Austrian fir, shimmering with decorations. In his homily, Benedict said a flame lit in Bethlehem accompanied the tree.

It was Benedict's first Midnight Mass since being elected April 19, and the first major public engagement of the Christmas period at the Vatican for the 78-year-old pontiff.

On Christmas Day at noon, Benedict was scheduled to deliver the "Urbi et Orbi" message (Latin for "to the city and to the world") to pilgrims and tourists in St. Peter's Square and offer holiday greetings.

His predecessor, Pope John Paul II, used to delight the crowds by delivering holiday wishes in dozens of languages. John Paul also would use the "Urbi et Orbi" message to review conditions around the world, often lamenting conflicts, poverty and the excesses of consumerism.

John Paul's longtime aide, Stanislaw Dziwisz, recalled Saturday the late pope's final Christmas last year, saying "we saw a very tired Holy Father and we were aware that maybe it would be the last."

Despite his ailments, "the Holy Father showed his guests warmth, and with the same love he shared the wafer and he even sang carols," Dziwisz told a television station in Krakow, Poland.

John Paul died on April 2.

On New Year's Eve, Benedict was to preside over an evening prayer service and, the following day, was to celebrate Mass in St. Peter's Basilica to mark the Catholic Church's World Peace Day.


GravatarAhhh, me darlin' pie. You still at KP? I should come visit.

Vicki -- anything more definite about Lansing?


GravatarHello moonbats


GravatarFerris needs a place on the internet where he can hang out and be comforable.

Who knows, he may find a home there. No haloscan (real-time) though.


GravatarWhen I was in my twenties I used to love raw oysters. Such a sensuous experience. Back int the 70's the water wasn't so polluted as it is now. You could go to an oyster bar in Boston and taste different varieties of oyster. I was great. I had so much fun. Met a lot of good looking men too.


GravatarHey, Moonbootica! Merry X-Men! *snikt*


Gravatarhappy holidays filkertom


GravatarI'd wish all of you a merry Christmas but I'm not a Christian, so.....

Not a Christian?

Not... a Christian?

I-- I don't understand...


GravatarGenuinely can't say I've ever had oysters. Or good lobster. (Red Lobster and fake lobster don't count.) Love love love mussels. Especially in a garlic tomato broth.


GravatarIn his homily at midnight Mass, Benedict mentioned no other area of conflict on the globe other than the Holy Land.

Benedict ended his homily with this appeal to God: "Where there is conflict, give birth to peace. Where there is hatred, make love spring up! Where darkness prevails, let light shine."

Earlier in the evening, Benedict appeared at his studio window briefly to light a candle and bless the crowds below who had gathered to watch the unveiling of the Vatican's Nativity scene.





Nothing about Iraq.

Just the same pie in the sky "a collection of cells" is more important that people already here" bullshit.


GravatarGood evening all, and Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas.


GravatarI have Lawrence Welk Christmas on the tv. It reminds me of my grandma and grandpa.

Have yourselves a merry little Christmas now.
Vicki

There's a wonderfulness to that. Innocent times.

Even if there were all kinds of horrible things going on, there have ALWAYS been times throughout human history that could not be ruined by the awfulness than human beings seem doomed to repeat. There are precious moments, frozen in time, perhaps crystallized in the heart, where hope for goodness and decency for all lies.

When we are - even if perhaps rarely - fed, clothed, warm. We have enough to give to others without worrying we will starve. We huddle together for sweet moments of warmth, of love, of the best this conflicted species can be.

And, for a moment or two, maybe even a string of them, we simply *are*.

But, fuck, no way am I sentimental or maudlin.....


GravatarGood evening, my beautiful bats.

A wondrous Yule, a Merry Christmas, a Happy Hannukah and a _____ ________ (other) to you all!

Mrs. Gummo is icing a twisted ankle so we stayed put today.

We watched King Kong (1933) ; we followed it with the "real" (i.e. cartoon) Grinch.

Now we're going to watch Bernard & the Genie, a BBC Christmas thing from the early 90s, with Alan Cummings, Lenny Henry and Rowan Atkinson. It should join the other perennials, 'cause it's a lot of fun & sweet without rubbing your nose in it.

Hope you all find your hearts' desires (even the trolls -- maybe then you won't be so bitter & twisted!) and let go of all anxiety, at least for the next couple of days.


GravatarJumping on the seasonal bandwagon here...

So I'm sending warm wishes for happy holidays to all you fine people out there, wherever you happen to be, and the hope that you are spending them with the people you love.

May the new year bring peace and enlightenment to us all.

Even the trolls, whether they want it or not


GravatarPrior,

Re: Lawrence Welk.

Two reasons.

1. When I used to work at Herpolsheimers in Grand Rapids, all of the elderly ladies asked me if I was "Ralna." My vanity gets the best of me.

2. More importantly, my maternal grandparents loved Lawrence Welk, and they loved Christmas. I always try to catch Lawrence Welk on Christmas if I can, in honor of their memories. They brought wonderful Christmas traditions to my family. In fact, my maternal grandfather was Jewish, but became a Lutheran and then a Catholic when he moved to the United States. My grandpa loved the tradition of winter wheat at Christmas time....

Just memories, that's all. Good ones.


GravatarEvery time I see someone eating raw oysters, I always think they're going all the way down and out and land on the floor.


Gravatar 'Bin Laden deputy' lauds Taleban

Al-Qaeda's deputy leader has claimed the Taleban still control large parts of Afghanistan, according to a tape broadcast on a Arabic TV channel.

The speaker, said to be Ayman al-Zawahri, said the Taleban was "waging a sustained guerrilla campaign against the crusaders and apostates".

Al-Arabiya satellite television said it had only just obtained the tape and could not tell when it was recorded.

More than 1,400 people have died in unrest in Afghanistan this year.

It is the worst toll since US-led forces ousted the Taleban in late 2001.


GravatarOne lady asked the docent why the seals were so stupid as to whelp where there were great white sharks...



Bush voter, I presume?


Gravatarand my chance of gettin' lucky tonight is diminishing by the hour...

altogether an unexceptional state of affairs...
.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar


Welcome to the club my friend.


GravatarMaybe this moment requires a solemn hit off the penis bong.


GravatarVicki:

When I think of Christmas and television specials when I was a kid, I can't help thinking of Andy Williams.


Gravatar Williams sermon on 'forgiveness'

The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams will pay tribute to the families of Abigail Witchalls and Anthony Walker in his Christmas sermon.

At Canterbury Cathedral he will praise the way they responded to horrific violence with Christian forgiveness.

They show the difference made possible by the "miraculous love" offered by God to the human race, he will say.

Anthony Walker was murdered with an ice pick in July and Abigail Witchalls was paralysed in a knife attack in April.

Mother of 18-year-old Anthony Gee Walker - a devout Christian - said she would follow Jesus' example and forgive his killers.


GravatarI just had a delicious dinner of steak and shrimp fajitas. It was so mild today, we took a walk by the ocean, and barbequed afterwards.


GravatarI like fried oysters, though.


GravatarVicki -- anything more definite about Lansing?
filkertom


I need to hook up with Barndog. He's doing Christmas with the family today. More tomorrow or Monday? Is that okay?

I still have your number programmed into my cell phone, I do believe.


GravatarMERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS!


GravatarMoonbootica! merry christmas. How was the pub crawl?


GravatarVicki -- you say you have Lawrence Welk on the TV -- I would just like to ask, WHY? Prior Aelred - 7:50 pm



GravatarI'm about to wind down the online portion of the evening. I've got some cookies, cider, and my copy of A Christmas Carol to read aloud to myself.


GravatarI-- I don't understand...



I have my parents to thank for that.


GravatarWater heater now replaced here at ChezX... I guess that's MY fuggin' Christmas present.

Santa hates my guts, apparently.
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GravatarI like mussles especially in garlic butter.

tiger prawns are nice as well with seafood dip.


GravatarI like just about anything if it's fried. The only fish I like is fried.


GravatarWhen I think of Christmas and television specials when I was a kid, I can't help thinking of Andy Williams.
Terry C, Elitist Know


That's so funny, and so true. My sister called me last Sunday to tell me Andy Williams was on.

He reminds me of my dad.


GravatarVicki -- didn't think we were gonna suddenly do it now. Tomorrow and Monday won't work for me. Tuesday and Wednesday are great.


GravatarMost excellent, NTodd! And a Chappy Channukah right back atcha.


Gravatararabella it was ok, didn't stay out too late, had 1 red bull and vodka and 1 vodka and coke.

the nighlife is much poorer in Devizes than Swansea.


GravatarYou still at KP? I should come visit.

Do that! It was crazy before Xmas, but it will settle down now.

I'll keep in touch, and we'll have that lunch.


GravatarNow we're going to watch Bernard & the Genie, a BBC Christmas thing from the early 90s, with Alan Cummings, Lenny Henry and Rowan Atkinson. It should join the other perennials, 'cause it's a lot of fun & sweet without rubbing your nose in it.


Gummo:

What channel in your area?


GravatarOne lady asked the docent why the seals were so stupid as to whelp where there were great white sharks...

By chance did the docent suggest that it wasn't so much the seals' stupidity as the sharks' smarts?


Gravatarand my chance of gettin' lucky tonight is diminishing by the hour...

altogether an unexceptional state of affairs...
.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar


Welcome to the club my friend.
Johnjs


This is making me sad.

WGG, WTF? You are a way interesting guy with and air about you, that I can't see how you don't have women lined up!

Merry Xmas, tho.


GravatarHey Incog! First of all, Merry Christmas, if it ain't out of keepin' with the situation.

Second of all, I read earlier this week that String was doing fine.

I wondered how you ever resolved the problem of String putting herself in harm's way with the cat-eating dog.

It sounded like doom was at hand. I'm glad you apparently got past it.


GravatarMERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS!
NTodd


Beautiful dog.


GravatarTerry C, Elitist Know It All | 12.24.05 - 7:59 pm | #

Sorry, Terry, no channel -- we have an old prerecorded videotape of it. Mrs. G. saw it way back when so a couple of years ago we went online & tracked down a copy.


GravatarMoonbootica - how did you find atrios and what got you interested in a US political blog?


GravatarHere's my favorite one for Eli...

During the height of the Cold War a Soviet meteorologist named Rudolph Marakevich was attending an international conference in Washington DC. Being that he was an important guest, the Chief Protocol officer of the US and his wife were assigned to host the Russian’s stay.
One evening they were leaving the house to go to dinner, when Marakevich looked up at the clouds and said, “Excuse please, but looks like it will be rain. We must take umbrella”. The Chief of Protocol looked at the clouds and said “Nah, I’ve lived in DC all my life, those aren’t rain clouds, we don’t need an umbrella.” His wife objected saying the Russian was an experienced meteorologist who knew bad weather signs. But to no avail, they left without the umbrella.
A few hours later upon leaving the restaurant, they were greeted with a massive downpour. The protocol officer’s wife turned to her husband and said, “see honey, I told you”. He replied, “Told me what!” She said, “Didn’t I tell you that Rudolph the Red knows rain dear!”
.


Gravatarpeace and festivus forever


GravatarI'm not sure that there's enough alcohol in the world to make wrapping presents around indoor cats pleasant.


GravatarTuesday and Wednesday are great.


That's what I was thinking, too. Good!

Oooh...I can smell the cranberry bread as it bakes, permeating throughout the house.

Delicious!


GravatarMy mother is doing both a small turkey and beef joint for christmas dinner, as her parents requested it (the maternal grandparents are round for christmas dinner and so they prefer turkey see), so it will be like a carvery!

my dad refused to spend £43 on a turkey and the meat is pretty bland and dry in his opinion.

he would rather spend £20 on a good beef joint.

tho he got one off his farmer friend for free.


GravatarEvening, Atriots


Gravatararabella i believe it was my brother, he mentioned it and said i should check it out.

so i lurked for a couple of years before finally this year in the spring plucked up courage to post, started with Friday cat blogging and went on from there


GravatarI just had a delicious dinner of steak and shrimp fajitas. It was so mild today, we took a walk by the ocean, and barbequed afterwards.
Karin



The daughter and I had our usual Saturday dinner at a nice restaurant about a block and a half from our house.

Had some great shrimp!


GravatarLittle Brøther, she stopped darting outside. I think she got spooked.


GravatarI like fried oysters, though.

Was the specialty of the house at the restaurant I mentioned. A bit rough on the waistline, however.


GravatarTerry C, Elitist Know It All | 12.24.05 - 7:59 pm | #

Sorry, Terry, no channel -- we have an old prerecorded videotape of it. Mrs. G. saw it way back when so a couple of years ago we went online & tracked down a copy.
Gummo


The reason I asked is because they never show it anymore, and I saw it the one time.

I loved it!

I'll have to look on e-bay for a tape or DVD.


GravatarWater heater now replaced here at ChezX... I guess that's MY fuggin' Christmas present.

Santa hates my guts, apparently.
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MisterX


And a hot Xmas morning shower.
(cold showers are brutal)

.


Gravatarmy mother cooked the turkey tonight so saving time.

she also prepares the vegtables and lays the table.

her aim is to spend less time in the kitchen and more time with family.

as the scouting motto sez - Be Prepared!


GravatarTerry C --

I just searched for Bernard & the Genie at amazon & it's out on DVD!

Thought you'd like to know...


GravatarVicki -- excellent. E-mail me, and we'll set it up.

Agent Orange -- up until this time last year, there was an Indonesian peninsula which was home to a village of food craftsmen. They had one product: the best damn soy sauce on the planet. Unfortunately, the tsunami shifted ever-damn-thing around, and destroyed the land bridge, cutting the village off completely. And, if you went there tonight, you could hear the people on the main island as they mournfully sing, "We miss you, Tamari Ithsmus, we miss you, Tamari Ithsmus...."


GravatarHam tomorrow, cooked with pineapples chunks "stuck" to it with cloves.


GravatarHey, DWD! I'm getting out of here in a few minutes, but it's great to see you! Merry Happy 'n' stuff.


GravatarVicki--

Honoring the memories of loved ones -- I salute you

Now Andy Williams I liked -- not just "Moon River" or his amusing variety shows where he always poked fun at himself but when his ex-wife was arrested for murdering her boyfriend, he immediately traveled to be at her side

Moonbootica--
Rowan is always impressive when you can understand what he says (I liked his wife better -- when she wrote for the Church Times I used to steal sermon ideas from her regularly)


GravatarTerry C --

I just searched for Bernard & the Genie at amazon & it's out on DVD!

Thought you'd like to know...
Gummo


Cool!

Much thanks!


Gravatarchristmas dinner is followed by Marks and Spencers mince pies and Sainsbury Christmas pudding.


GravatarOooh, Santa's going to hand out stockings now! Gotta go...


GravatarMoonbootica, perhaps one of us here will be moved by your culinary tale, and instruct the local poulterer to deliver the prize Turkey that is hanging up there-- not the little prize Turkey; the big one-- to your home on Christmas morning.

God bless us, every one!


Gravatari think Rowan proves that there are still sensible voices in the church.

he offers hope Prior Aelred.


GravatarMERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!


GravatarSanta hates my guts, apparently.

If Santa hated your guts you'd have been taking cold showers for another 4 days.


GravatarThe oysters only made you think they were good looking.


Gravatarhttp://www.13wham.com/news/natio...60- 21C8818788D4

Ex-Marine Says Public Version of Saddam Capture Fiction

A former U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated.

Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday, Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

"I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as announced," Abou Rabeh said.

"We captured him after fierce resistance during which a Marine of Sudanese origin was killed," he said.

He said Saddam himself fired at them with a gun from the window of a room on the second floor. Then they shouted at him in Arabic: "You have to surrender. ... There is no point in resisting."

"Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well," Abou Rabeh said.

etc.
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Well well.
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GravatarI am a jinx. I should be banned.


GravatarI'm sitting at work watching the police pull people over on the interstate for drunk driving. It gets worse the later it gets.


GravatarMan, my old high school girlfriend didn't send me a Christmas card this year for the first time in decades. Wonder what I did to piss her off now?


Gravatarwe start the morning off with Bucks Fizz and nibbles.


GravatarOooh, Santa's going to hand out stockings now! Gotta go...
NTodd


Oooh, I hope NTodd gets the nice silk seamed ones...


GravatarSaddam was hiding in a hole like a cowardly animal.


GravatarHam tomorrow, cooked with pineapples chunks "stuck" to it with cloves.
Terry C, Elitist Know It All


A Rib Roast (3.99/lb).
We had a ham like yours last year. Do you use brown sugar also.

.


GravatarSaddam was hiding in a hole like a cowardly animal.


GravatarEx-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh was there.

Boosh is toast. Don't fuck with the spies.
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GravatarMerry Christmas AnnieAngel, I put on your wish list that Santa come and sit on your face.


Gravatar Muslim group issues Kember plea

A British Muslim group has appealed for the safe release of Norman Kember and three other peace campaigners taken hostage with him in Iraq in November.

The appeal, from the Muslim Association of Britain, was broadcast on al-Jazeera TV channel in Arabic and followed media appeals from the 74-year-old's family.

The men remain missing two weeks after their captors threatened to kill them.

The Swords of Truth group demanded all Iraqis detained by coalition forces be freed by 10 December - a call not met.


GravatarApparently you have to be British to celebrate the Yuletide properly...


GravatarEx-Marine Says Public Version of Saddam Capture Fiction

Of course they were lying.


GravatarSaddam was hiding in a hole like a cowardly animal.


GravatarWGG

Elephant seals and great white question--it was a very awkward moment. To point out the obvious was to rub her nose in it. She was quite huffy about how dumb the seals were, you see, sort of like how some Republicans are about poor people just lacking motivation to better their lives.


GravatarOh, you're fine, arabella. It was inevitable.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, moonbats and trolls and namestealers alike, I wish you a Very Merry Holiday Of Your Choice. Hugs and hot chocolate all around, and I'll catch you tomorrow or the next day.

"And I heard him exclaim something wondrous and awful,
'Merry Christmas to all! And to Bill O'Reilly, some falafel."


GravatarGeorge our abbie managed to this morning drag the beef joint off the plate and onto the floor without smashing the plate.

clever bugger!


GravatarI'm sitting down to rejoin the thread that isn't burned down yet.

Damn, Incog, I am so happy to see you here again. I missed you sorely.


GravatarOooh, I hope NTodd gets the nice silk seamed ones...
Marcia Brady ∞


Oh! Now I get the no pants thing!

(and a garter belt?)

.


GravatarHUSSEIN WAS QUIVERING IN A RAT HOLE LIKE A SCARED ANIMAL.


GravatarAgave, merry christmas to yourself and the ever-delicious melissa

and i appreciate your assessment...

i think it has to do with my beard... it signals the extent of my non-conventionality...when a woman takes on a man-project, she needs to think she can succeed...i think my beard suggests a formidable impediment and is a symbol of resistance to arbitrary transformations.

or im just rationalizing...


GravatarI was speaking to a woman I've known since high school. We bump into each other on the holidays. She is a lively woman with a good head on her shoulders - fun to be with. She is one of these women who would rather be with a group of guys with no other women. Every time I see her she has more tales of woe about her love live. Shame, really. She's an amazing person. It was odd to see her today.


GravatarNot... a Christian?

I-- I don't understand...
Little Brøther |



I get the same reaction when I say I'm an atheist.

I'm waiting for their heads to explode.


Gravatarthe beef join was on a plate on one of the kitchen worktops.

so how he managed to move the turket without smashing the plate is a mystery!


GravatarMoonbootica,

What is a beef joint? Is it hard to keep them lit?


GravatarMoonbootica--
Some of us has been disappointed at Rowan on gay issues (& pandering to the "Global South" in his official position in spite of his personal beliefs) but he is a brilliant man & holy, I think -- doesn't mean we can't disagree

I'm also very impressed by the new Archbishop of York, John Sentamu -- quite a life story!


GravatarYou know, the Constitution is what defines us. If we took it to Mars we could start the US there.

This country is not the land, the buildings, or even the people. Its the Constitution.

Maybe we should take it and start over some place.

Instant democracy. Just add water.


GravatarMen don't want strong women arabella.


GravatarPrior Aelred thats true.


GravatarShe was quite huffy about how dumb the seals were, you see, sort of like how some Republicans are about poor people just lacking motivation to better their lives.
noblejoanie


Accurate comparison.


GravatarMoonbootica, is a beef joint like a beef roast? What part of the cow is it?


GravatarHUSSEIN WAS ROTTING IN A HOLE WHEN THE ARMY SAVED HIM.


GravatarMen don't want strong women, arabella.
fred


REAL men do.

Whiny Ass Titty Babies don't.


GravatarTHE MILITARY WERE MERCIFUL WITH HUSSEIN.


GravatarLooks like Michigan is in the house, in full force.
Hi, Prior!


GravatarI missed y'all, too.


GravatarIncog yeah Roast Beef

my father has a good friend who runs a farm and he often gives us like half a cow or half a lamb.


Gravatar"Ex-Marine Says Public Version of Saddam Capture Fiction"

Exactly like everything else this administration has done. Fiction. Well, maybe Pulp Fiction.


GravatarEx-Marine Says Public Version of Saddam Capture Fiction

Of course they were lying.
Teen LaQueefa |



They've lied about everything else.


Gravatarsort of like how some Republicans are about poor people just lacking motivation to better their lives.
noblejoanie - 8:12 pm


a very apt and perceptive simile, dahlin...

i have never seen anybody lift themselves up by their own bootstraps...
never, ever...
i been watchin', too...
i know i'da noticed...

but damned if these shitwhistle capitalists dont persist in tossing that chestnut into the stewpot...


GravatarMen don't want strong women, arabella.

My wife can bench about 200 lbs, is that strong?


GravatarAn Eschaton Holiday Poem

Twas the night before Fitzmas and all through the house
The keyboard was silent and so was the mouse

The moonbats were home all snug in their beds
While visions of impeachment danced in their heads

The day was a long one without a bad thread
Even the trolls were contented ‘cause they had been fed

As usual steve simels eloquently voiced his quick wrath
Invariably aimed at the Little Sociopath

Poor NTodd had no stocking to hang up perchance,
Instead, yeah you guessed it, he just hung up his pants.

Fitzmas blogwhoring is watertiger’s favorite trick
Don’t worry, just click it – it’s only a pic

Trolls beware of a slap from our NYMary
If you dopes come around and try patting her belly

Recalling the Sixties to Woody seemed like past fiction
Back then, instead of Fuck Bush, it was Fuck Richard Nixon

And Vicki, still searching for Mr. Right’s friendly dong
She’ll gladly give him a toot on her glass penis bong

And thanks to Moonbootica that’s a hard one to rhyme
But how would we know who died in the year 869.

And the jokesters whose postings are usually too short
My favorite’s res ipsa loquitor’s Blah Blah Blah Report

To that elf whose ‘Caps Lock’ key is stuck and not workin’
Let’s all give a salute to the PATRIOT named MERKIN

Now just at this time when my sleep is so near
Oh what to my wondering eyes should appear
Atrios on a sleigh driven by 8 real dears

He whistled and shouted and called them by name
Now bigvic, now Tena, now scoutprime and mena
On sallyh, on ql, on flory, Athenae

Each prancing and pawing their two lttle feet
Made V V’s shoe porn seem especially sweet

And thanks to the threadbot - resetting’s “hard work”
The threads that were hijacked by some little jerk

So let me exclaim ere we keep up the fight
Happy Holidays you Atriots, and to all a good night!



GravatarREAL men do.
Many, not all, strong people can't bear to be friends or companions with someone stronger than themselves.


Gravatarthis time we got half a cow, with slow and fast roast joints, plenty of chops as well.


GravatarMany, not all, strong people can't bear to be friends or companions with someone stronger than themselves.
fred


Well, then we women can bloody well do WITHOUT males like that, can't we?


GravatarHi Karin!

I really do have to go pretend to help with the tree & then try to get a little rest before the midnight service

Preaching in the mornming -- finished the sermon ths morning (one of the reasons I wasn't here)


GravatarTerry C - I didn't understand freds comment and if I did, I don't care. I'm a strong woman and if men don't like it so what. I mean - who cares. I'm happy that my self worth does not constantly to be affirmed by flirtatious banter and primping. So boring.


GravatarMany, not all, strong people can't bear to be friends or companions with someone stronger than themselves.
fred



Then you have Bush, who can't bear to appoint people smarter than he is.


Gravatarany decent waves today?

WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar


sorry about the delay had to make a firewood run-

waves? not too much today on the central coast but my bro said on thursday they had 15 ftrs in Ventura peaky-lines with few breaks and plenty of takers, those dudes are way crazy- a mucho peligro para mi


GravatarHi, Prior! from me too. Sometimes I am content to read instead of comment. So, I haven't said hi to you in a while. Hope you have a nice holy day tomorrow.


GravatarWell I see the late nite crew has signed in early. Marcia, Todd, and Terry, not to mention Annie.

Found a rare picture of Limpy and Annie together. I think it was taken on their first date.

http://www.fred-roby.com/images/...or% 20vences.jpg


GravatarTerry C - I didn't understand freds comment and if I did, I don't care. I'm a strong woman and if men don't like it so what. I mean - who cares. I'm happy that my self worth does not constantly to be affirmed by flirtatious banter and primping. So boring.
arabella



Word, sister.


Gravatarbloody helloscan


GravatarIncog, where's your symbol? Cuz I liked your symbol. And a very gay and merry holiday to you, my dear man.

Cranberry bread is done. It looks to perfection ~ not over done. Sometimes, when you bake in those babt loaves, you can over bake.

I watch my baking like a hawk.


GravatarDean and Jerry broke up for 20 years. That's what happens between string willed, stubborn folk.


Gravataram I fashionably late ?

Don't worry, anyone


Gravatar Bethlehem a 'prison' - patriarch

Israel's most senior Roman Catholic leader has said Bethlehem has become an "immense prison" since the erection of the West Bank barrier.

Michel Sabbah, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, called for all barriers between people to be dismantled.

He was joined by Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, ambassadors from several countries and thousands of Christians for Christmas Eve mass in Bethlehem.

Israel says the barrier is defensive, but Palestinians see it as a land grab.


GravatarMom's making chicken and cornbread dressing. I would rather have a nice roast beef. I should have asked her prior for that. I love her chicken and dressing but we had that for Thanksgiving.


Gravatar..."string willed, stubborn fork." ???


Gravatarfilkertom - hugs back at you, and hope the very best for you for the new year.


GravatarLooks like Michigan is in the house, in full force.
Hi, Prior!
Karin


There are a hell of a lot of us from Michigan who post here, you know that?


Gravatari have never seen anybody lift themselves up by their own bootstraps...
never, ever...
i been watchin', too...
i know i'da noticed...

but damned if these shitwhistle capitalists dont persist in tossing that chestnut into the stewpot...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka


How do you lift yourself up by the bootstraps if you don't have any bootstraps and can't afford to buy any?


Gravatarfred, our spokesmale?

what were his qualifications again?


GravatarBTW, is Orange still here?


GravatarIncognito, did you tell your mom, you're gay.


GravatarChrist, Nim'll be a Michigander in just a few weeks. And then add my sister, who has been posting recently, and Jeebus H. Grinchmas.


Gravatarmy mother also has straight from the freezer 'Aunt Bessie's' yorkshire puddings to save time again.


Gravatarso, arabella, did you get my email?


Gravatar..."string willed, stubborn folk... oh, I get it now, must be how skinny people relate to each other....


Gravatar. | 12.24.05 - 8:17 pm | #



() () () () () () () () ()

(standing ovation with many hands clapping.)


GravatarIncognito, did you tell your mom, you're gay.
fred



Have you told YOURS that you're nuts?


GravatarIgnore the troll, I beg of you all. It's Christmas, for christ's sake. Just ignore the fuckwit.

Presents under your trees if you do!


GravatarBTW, Agent Orange, did you see my other posts in the previous thread, or not?


GravatarMom already knows I'm in great spirits during the holidays.


GravatarAl, where did you find the amazing picture. Which one is shoelimpy and which one is annieangel?


GravatarPrior, best wishes to you on the holy days.


GravatarA blessed Yule to all the Moonbats of the world. I hope that you are enjoying family and friends wherever you may be.

Cheers!


GravatarMoonbootica, your earlier post just sunk in. £43 on a turkey! Isn't that like over $80 US?


GravatarIsrael's most senior Roman Catholic leader has said Bethlehem has become an "immense prison" since the erection of the West Bank barrier.





Bush & Co. must be SO envious.


Gravatarthey had 15 ftrs in Ventura peaky-lines with few breaks and plenty of takers, those dudes are way crazy- a mucho peligro para mi
focus, wisher of well


We had high surf in SoCal as well. One intrepid surfer had his leg broken when the wave slammed him onto the sand.


GravatarChristmas Eve sales slower than predicted

CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. retailers faced slower-than-expected traffic in stores on the last shopping day before Christmas as extended hours and steep discounts failed to draw a big crowd of shoppers.

"I don't think the day is the kind of day that retailers thought it would be," said Britt Beemer, head of America's Research Group, which surveys consumer spending habits. "Christmas Eve is seldom the big day because of the fact that so many consumers ... want to be home."

U.S. retailers were counting on strong demand on Saturday to make up for solid but unspectacular sales so far this holiday season. The Saturday before Christmas has become the busiest shopping day of the year as consumers hold out for last-minute discounts.


GravatarOff to mix up the cherry pecan buttermilk bread (to die for ~ even little kids gobble it up).

Back in a few.


GravatarMoonbootica --

It's a "defensive land grab."


Gravatari have never seen anybody lift themselves up by their own bootstraps...
I've seen a few. They were good students in high school. That's the only chance the poor have.
However, even the ones that got scholarships and good jobs, now seem to be plagued with problems.
Overall, everyone is around the income level as their fathers. The stupid rich kids from upper class homes, now magically, are upper class.


GravatarPresents under your trees if you do! Vicki - 8:25 pm

Throw in a turn under the mistletoe and I'm there!


GravatarWoody,

sorry about your wound - try a coat of Vitaman E oil before the water


GravatarKarin maths and conversion rates have never been my strong point heh


GravatarFerris - no time to check right now, but I will.

This thread is an informal one, but it will give you a chance to meet some new people.


GravatarAl, where did you find the amazing picture. Which one is shoelimpy and which one is annieangel?
arabella



dicklimpy and analannieasshole are one and the same person, for sure.



Actually, I like Senor Wenches when I was a kid. Used to like to watch him on "Ed Sullivan."


GravatarIsrael says the barrier is defensive, but Palestinians see it as a land grab.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist -8:21 pm


every expansion of a colonial defensive perimeter is , de facto, a land-grab...


GravatarNo owl has ever been eaten by a great white.


GravatarMom already knows I'm in great spirits during the holidays.
Incog, liberl




GravatarLarge-scale US domestic spying program reported

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US government's domestic spying operation is much broader than previously disclosed, involving eavesdropping on vast amounts of telephone and Internet traffic, according to US media reports.

The government's top-secret National Security Agency (NSA) is not only monitoring specific conversations of terrorist suspects but also combing through massive volumes of phone and Internet communications, according to a New York Times report.

The "data-mining operation" by the NSA -- often in cooperation with major telecommunications firms -- includes surveillance of phone calls outside the United States that pass through US-based telephone "switches" or gateways.


GravatarIgnore the troll, I beg of you all. It's Christmas, for christ's sake. Just ignore the fuckwit.

I don't understand why anyone responds to them, ever. It just encourages them to spout more stupid shit and makes the thread unreadable.


GravatarAl, where did you find the amazing picture. Which one is shoelimpy and which one is annieangel?

Started late last night. Seemed increasinly clear annie is limpy's hand puppet, which bought to mind the original hand puppeteer, Senior Wenses.

Annie's seen here ordering Canard a la Orange. Limpy's translating for her because they don't speak French in Texas.


GravatarChristmas Eve sales slower than predicted





No way in hell I go out shopping the day BEFORE Christmas.


GravatarActually, I like Senor Wenches when I was a kid. Used to like to watch him on "Ed Sullivan."
Terry C, Elitist Know It All - 8:27 pm


Our trolls are more like Topo Gigio, I think.

Except they're not cute.


GravatarThe above analysis excludes women. Who have greater opportunity than men at social mobility through marrying money.


GravatarStrong women can be whatever a man wants, when he wants it.


GravatarIncognito, did you tell your mom, you're gay.
fred | 12.24.05 - 8:23 pm | #
******************

i don't think his mom is gay.


GravatarI was referring to Algonquin J. Calhoun in a previous comment!

Al.

(Is that the Al troll from Drum's site?)


I wish you peace.


GravatarAnnie's seen here

Apparently, she gives good head too.


GravatarMy sister who works at Boots was telling us how lots of men were buying perfumes becuase they had left gift giving till the last minite and did not know what to get their girlfriends/wifes/mistresses.

so she found it easy to flog perfume by making suggestions.

she found it amusing.


GravatarIgnore the troll, I beg of you all. It's Christmas, for christ's sake. Just ignore the fuckwit.

Presents under your trees if you do!
Vicki | Email | 12.24.05 - 8:25 pm | #



Out of curiousity, am I the trol/fuckwit? I admit I prolly could've come off better in my first few lines, about more discussion oriented threads, but I admit I lack somewhat when I am trying to be subtle


GravatarArabella: I was just about to try to affirm your self worth with a little flirtatious banter and primping, but instead I'll just wish you and everyone a Merry Christmas, etc.
Now, off to dinner.


GravatarApparently, she gives good head too.

...or is it hand?


GravatarWe had high surf in SoCal as well

hey Diane, hows the Parade prep coming?


GravatarOut of curiousity, am I the trol/fuckwit?


no


GravatarMen think about their careers, women think about the money they will marry. And you call yourself feminist?


GravatarOut of curiousity, am I the troll/fuckwit?


Not you, Ferris!


GravatarMom already knows I'm in great spirits during the holidays.
Incog, liberl



ag_ve | Email | 12.24.05 - 8:29 pm | #
-----

Isn't that suppose to be enjoying great spirits?

I know at my house, thats the only way to get through the holidays


Gravatarwomen think about the money they will marry. And you call yourself feminist?
fred


Hey, asshole.

I have worked since I was 17.

I don't need some male to support ME!


GravatarThis is a real WTF?

The commander of American-run prisons in Iraq says the military will not turn over any detainees or detention centers to Iraqi jailers until American officials are satisfied that the Iraqis are meeting United States standards for the care and custody of detainees.


GravatarSenor Wenches

A real Don Juan, eh?


GravatarStrong women can be whatever a man wants, when he wants it.
annieangel


No, I do what I want when I want.


GravatarI don't need some male to support ME!
good for you. most women dream cinderella stories. I wish it was different. It's not.


GravatarI get through the holidays by reading, relaxing and contemplation. Almost no fuss. Tomorrow dinner with family. Keep stress to a minumum


GravatarOne intrepid surfer had his leg broken when the wave slammed him onto the sand.
Diane - 8:26 pm


fella i knew in santa barbie got his neck broken that way...got really drilled in a beach break and no water underneath..."Lucky to be a live"

i'd need to spend MONTHS solid at the beach to get back into shape to surf again even at the modest level of accomplishment at which i was once able to perform on waves...

i usta love ventura fairgrounds; it was a friendly break, no mad local shit, a lotta fun, between3-7'
...it'd be freaky at 15'...
indicators at Rincon is just starting to get good at 15'...too good for me, actually


GravatarMy sister who works at Boots was telling us how lots of men were buying perfumes becuase they had left gift giving till the last minite and did not know what to get their girlfriends/wifes/mistresses.

so she found it easy to flog perfume by making suggestions.

she found it amusing.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist


Gravatarsomeone is trying to leave milk and troll house cookies for santa.


GravatarToo late in a long day to be using tags, I see.

My sister who works at Boots was telling us how lots of men were buying perfumes becuase they had left gift giving till the last minite and did not know what to get their girlfriends/wifes/mistresses.

so she found it easy to flog perfume by making suggestions.

she found it amusing.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist


Noticed a lot of British accents (English; "RP;" Scottish) accents in the store this evening. (It's an ex-pat by virtue of oil company community. Lots of Shell and other employees in the neighborhood).

Wondering if Xmas Eve shopping was a "Brit" thing, because they don't start the shopping season after Thxgiving.

For obvious reasons.

Probably not, I know realize. But I wondered.


GravatarWhen I was a little girl I dreamed about being a performance analyst. 50 years later all my dreams came true.

I grew up knowing that I would have to work to support myself and that life is not a free ride.


GravatarSanta baby, slip a sable under the tree, for me
I've been an awful good girl
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight

Santa baby, an out-of-space convertible too, light blue
I'll wait up for you dear
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight

Think of all the fun I've missed
Think of all the fellas that I haven't kissed
Next year I could be oh so good
If you'd check off my Christmas list
Boo doo bee doo

Santa honey, I wanna yacht and really that's
Not a lot
I've been an angel all year
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight

Santa cutie, there's one thing I really do need, the deed
To a platinum mine
Santa cutie, and hurry down the chimney tonight

Santa baby, I'm filling my stocking with a duplex, and checks
Sign your 'X' on the line
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight

Come and trim my Christmas tree
With some decorations bought at Tiffany's
I really do believe in you
Let's see if you believe in me
Boo doo bee doo

Santa baby, forgot to mention one little thing, a ring
And I don't mean on the phone
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight

Hurry down the chimney tonight
Hurry down the chimney tonight


GravatarU.S. retailers were counting on strong demand on Saturday to make up for solid but unspectacular sales so far this holiday season. The Saturday before Christmas has become the busiest shopping day of the year as consumers hold out for last-minute discounts.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist

I'd say yesterday was, by far, the busiest day, judging from traffic 'round the local mall.

Pretty ordinary day today, for Xmas Eve.


Gravatarbeing a performance analyst.
good for you. You must come from an upper middle class home.


Gravatarsomeone is trying to leave milk and troll house cookies for santa.
pukebot


Live crunchy frog or cockroach cluster?


GravatarRmj i am not sure.

i guess you do get people who leave everything to the last minute and so rush around in a blind panic.


GravatarDammit!

I give up.

Back to festive drinking.

U.S. retailers were counting on strong demand on Saturday to make up for solid but unspectacular sales so far this holiday season. The Saturday before Christmas has become the busiest shopping day of the year as consumers hold out for last-minute discounts.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist


I'd say yesterday was, by far, the busiest day, judging from traffic 'round the local mall.

Pretty ordinary day today, for Xmas Eve.


GravatarSome get paid more for their 'hard work' than others.


GravatarI grew up knowing that I would have to work to support myself and that life is not a free ride.
arabella



You don't wait for Prince Charming to come along.

There ain't no such animal.

You storm your own castles and fight your own dragons.


Gravatarhey arabella, I have to ask - straight up - considering some of the comments above, is there any chance of my idea being taken seriously? Or is everyone going to assume me to be a barking lunitic? I prefer to know just how deep a hole I am climbing out of


GravatarI don't need some male to support ME!

good for you. most women dream cinderella stories. I wish it was different. It's not.
fred




Someone dislikes women, I see!


Gravatarmoonbootica--just wondered if there is a frantic shopping season across the pond.

Here, it starts (or is "supposed" to) the Friday after Thxgiving.

We've abandoned the 12 days of Xmas, and replaced it with 24 days of mounting tension.

Feh.


GravatarWho have greater opportunity than men at social mobility through marrying money.




Ask Sharon Bush about that.


GravatarFerris, you are not in a hole! I suggest that you hang out here and get used the the people. Nobody is going to be supportive of your idea right away. I am new here too.

But you can't be serious ALL the time.


GravatarLive crunchy frog or cockroach cluster?
Terry C, Elitist Know It All


Ram's bladder cup for the regular trolls.

Spring surprise for the newbies.


GravatarRmj, We spent two hours in beautiful downtown Wimberley and did all of our shopping. I really like supporting the local businesses. Its really what small town living is all about.


GravatarFerris, you are not in a hole! I suggest that you hang out here and get used the the people. Nobody is going to be supportive of your idea right away. I am new here too.

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That wasn't what I was asking - I already know I am an Ass Hole (fact is, I come from a long line of ass holes, and I am proud of my ass holelity)

My point was, reading some of the above posts, well, the phrase barking lunitic comes to mind - as I said, I like to know just how deep a hole?


GravatarFerris?
be authentic
it shows, finally...
but it's a tough crowd...


GravatarWoody,

I honestly thought I was doing a decent job being authentic (and if I am not, well, I am always looking for pointers)

Open for suggestions?


GravatarFerris?

on the other hand, if you start your tenure here by criticizing as barking lunacy some unspecified portion of the posts you have read so far, you may find it uncomfortable to persist long in these parts...

jus sayin..
.


GravatarI don't need a man to support me either, but does that mean I'm supposed to not let a man support me if he wants to?


Gravatarfred - performance analyst is a fancy name for a person who jockeys spread sheet. Like being a clerk.

So what's your question?


Gravatarfred - performance analyst is a fancy name for a person who jockeys spread sheet. Like being a clerk.

So what's your question?


Gravatarferris, half of the regular commenters here were considered barking lunatics when they first started coming around. you have your favorite issues. everyone does. i wouldn't worry about it.


GravatarDon't know if this posted or not, if it did, sorry for the repost

Ferris?

on the other hand, if you start your tenure here by criticizing as barking lunacy some unspecified portion of the posts you have read so far, you may find it uncomfortable to persist long in these parts...

jus sayin..
.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka | Email | 12.24.05 - 8:53 pm | #


- - -
well, if your refering to my first few posts, I honestly didn't intend anything particularly mean - it was intended to see if anyone honestly had anythoughts on why open thread (anywhere I should've added) don't produce much beyond the kind of lovefests, or shouting matches, or those kinds of things. I admit it came off harsh - I apologize.


As far as critizing, well, I can get specific

Comment #1

"Friends, please don't tell our little rocket scientist friend (Ferris Valyn) there's a new thread.
He's busy arguing with himself on the previous one. Thanks.

.
Agent Orange | 12.24.05 - 6:45 pm | #

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Comment 2 and 3
"
Ferris is typing away upstairs and I'm keeping him busy.

Merry Merry Happy Happy Joy Joy
arabella

Oh bless you. I think the young man has been sniffing the airplane glue again.
.
Agent Orange | 12.24.05 - 7:02 pm | #
"


GravatarEvening, dearest moonbats.

I brought a few sprigs of the mistletoe that grows like weeds around here. Kisses for you all.


GravatarFred - this is just teasing banter. I think you're fun to talk to. Don't be so hard on yourself. I just started here, and it helps to have a sense of humor.

Come on, get with the program!


GravatarBTW, in case your still curious Agent Orange
--------
Three questions for the little rocket scientist...

If he was stuck on Mars for one year with one person, who would that person be?
----
Well, honestly, haven't got one particular person - after tolerating some family members I have, I could put up with anyone
----
Who's his favorite astronaut?
-----
Hard to say - I'd prolly pick Bill Nelson, the Florida Senator, since he was smart enough to go into politics as well. I wish I could say Buzz Aldrin, but, well, he endorsed Bush - that kinda hurt him in my opinion
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Even though 1 out of every 50 astronauts who's boarded the shuttle has been killed (that'll make his head explode) would he take the chance and go?
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Not really an option for yours truly - I have asthama, and its not my head that would explode, but its quite possible my lungs would. I can't go scuba diving either


GravatarAunt Bessie my ass, that's sheriff Andy Taylor's Aunt Bea, sure as shit!


GravatarAgent Orange, how'd you get to be such a fucking idiot?
jess askin |


My little friend, you have what's called a selective memory. You left the above response out of your list of historical comments. This preceeded all the comment's you copied.
Or maybe that wasn't you?
.


GravatarFerris - if you don't like this kind of goofing around you won't be happy here. Like people keep saying, this is a tough crowd. Your copying and pasting remarks about yourself is not a good sign. If you want to go back and post about this on the original thread, I'll join you.

It's christmas eve, man. Don't annoy folks.


GravatarOrange, if your asking did I post that - nope.

First rule, don't be an ass when in a thread - no one will take you seriously. So if you thought I posted that, nope, I did not.


GravatarFerris, please don't take this stuff badly.


GravatarPeople are being especially nice to you. It's poor form to be demanding when you are a new comer. You have to earn your bones. Even the old timers know better than to drag grievances around. You just have to suck it up.


GravatarFerris - if you don't like this kind of goofing around you won't be happy here. Like people keep saying, this is a tough crowd. Your copying and pasting remarks about yourself is not a good sign. If you want to go back and post about this on the original thread, I'll join you.

It's christmas eve, man. Don't annoy folks.

---
I could of course point out its also Hanukkah (or is it Chanukkah - never really certain - anyone care to provide direction as to which is correct?)

As far as copying and pasting, well, as I said, the comments kinda point me in the direction of being crazy - I just want to know how crazy people here think I am (I already know what my psyciatric diagnosis is, but popular knowledge is always good)

And as far as being happy here - I can't be happy on general principle, not when we have the Grand idiot in the White house, when millions are straving or dieing unnecassarily, when we have crooks running most of the rest of the worlds, and when God is guilty of 2nd degree manslaughter (I think thats the crime) well, honestly, how much do you think a few bloggers opinions will make?


GravatarArabella, Orange - Actually, I have no intention of holding grudges. Seriously - at somepoint, I hope Orange will read the posts, but if he doesn't, no big - I just thought that final comment, the one about my head exploding, did deserve a response. But it was rather petty, I admit, and as such, I do apologize. And if you did think that one post was me Orange, it wasn't.


GravatarRun Ferris! They've never been nice to me! I just keep getting banned and unbanned and have no clue why!

Jim Lahey is a drunk bastard, btw.


GravatarWell, it's your choice. You have to make up your own mind. People aren't going to have time to convince you to stay.


GravatarRun Ferris! They've never been nice to me! I just keep getting banned and unbanned and have no clue why!

annieangel


Oh, piss off, bitch!


GravatarI don't need a man to support me either, but does that mean I'm supposed to not let a man support me if he wants to?
annieangel


That's YOUR choice.


Gravatarnot to worry - I just because im new doesn't me Im leaving - my point was, I just want to know where Im starting. I will prolly be here for a while.


GravatarThat's fine Ferris. Have a good evening.


GravatarLOL!! I've been here only a few times and from the first word out of your mouth Terry I've been a cunt a bitch whatever you feel like hurling at me.

Be careful Ferris, it's scary here!


GravatarTerry C. Annie is not going to stick around here. No men to manipulate or impress. Annie needs attention, even negative attention. When she get attention she doesn't know what to do about. It's sad that she is so messed up, but it's not our responsiblity.


Gravatarannie - I know that you are a self loathing person. Don't mess with Ferris. He's new here. You are a real shit if you toy with him.


GravatarI'm new here too arabella. I don't want attention, I'd just like to actually debate, no one here does that they just troll and cuss and flame.

Very immature if you ask me.


GravatarArabella, she's welcome to toy with me - it really won't bother me one way or another. I do appricate the thought though


Gravatarannie, You are making a big deal out of nothing. You never debate. A debate implies a back and forth discussion. All you do is fling insults.


GravatarYou have never had a coherent thought, nor have you been able to articulate an idea. You are here to be a shit stirrer and make yourself the center of attention. This is self destructive, don't you agree. It's sad to see such anger.


GravatarAnd why come here if all people do is "cuss and troll and flame you?" Why punish yourself. You must be filled with self hatred.


GravatarNo you are making me out to be some kind of person who would toy with someone you all are being mean to just so they don't find out that unless they toe your little inbred party line here you will be called a cunt by terry and lots of other nice things by everyone else, and by nice things I mean rotten insulting horrible things and you will be banned and unbanned and it's a rollercoaster ride of emotions here at whatever this place is called.


GravatarI know more about Islam than anyone on this board.


GravatarWhat is the basis for your remarks? I have never experienced these things. But I have seen how you behave and you act like a confused angry woman. Do you enjoy provoking people until they heap abuse on you?


GravatarI know more about Islam than anyone on this board.

Why are you saying this? You aren't making any sense.


GravatarShoe me, Arabella. Show me please. Terry C called ma a bitch a few posts up, someone else said something really disgusting, just read it Ferris and she how she's trying to make YOU hate me now.


GravatarDammit. Where's shoelimpy when you need him. I'd love it if annieangel showed up to talk to rocket scientist Ferris. He'd love annie.

Gotta run back upstairs.
arabella | Email | 12.24.05 - 7:23 pm | #

LOL!! I used the search function to find where terry called me a bitch and THIS is the first thing I find!!

Sad.


GravatarMerry Christmas AnnieAngel, I put on your wish list that Santa come and sit on your face.
chris/tx | 12.24.05 - 8:11 pm | #


NICE!!!


GravatarWell I see the late nite crew has signed in early. Marcia, Todd, and Terry, not to mention Annie.

Found a rare picture of Limpy and Annie together. I think it was taken on their first date.

http://www.fred-roby.com/images/...or% 20vences.jpg
Al Swearengen | 12.24.05 - 8:20 pm | #

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WHY arabella? WHY is this post on this board??


GravatarThe people on this board are interested in politics. There are times when people are playful and talk about recipes or pets, etc. But the core of the group engages in serious discussion, not one upsmanship. You haven't demonstrated the intelligence or the discipline to engage in discussions.

So I ask you again, why do you want to be here?


GravatarAl, where did you find the amazing picture. Which one is shoelimpy and which one is annieangel?
arabella | Email | 12.24.05 - 8:25 pm | #

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HOW COULD YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS!!!

I totally missed it till now though!

Let's be friends, HUH????


GravatarAsk al. If something like this upsets you, stop coming here. You aren't smart enough and you aren't tough enough.


GravatarGod there's too much to paste it all.

Hypocrite! I speak politics on here and get FLAMED.

Everyone can see it, you're being a fool.

Merry Christmas, Ferris.


GravatarLet's debate politics then, arabella. You choose the topic.


GravatarAnne, I'm not your friend. I'm not your enemy either. I don't understand your need for putting yourself in situations that make you unhappy. Give yourself a Christmas present - find another place to post. You are making yourself miserable.


GravatarWell, night all - I gotta hit the hay - Arabella, I hope you got the email, Orange, please believe that I have no harsh feeling for you, and I hope you read what I suggested
Annie - I welcom you to read the previeous thread, starting with the things about space colonization.

Anyway, Im headed to bed (I hope - I really don't wanna get draged to church - Im tired)

Nite all


GravatarNo right now it looks like I'm making YOU miserable. Why is that, arabella?


GravatarSuch anger. Such a lack of logic.


GravatarMy boyfriend wants us to go live on some space ark with some lifeboat foundation people.

Nite Ferris. When you wake up it'll be Christmas


GravatarAnd as a parting shot, to demonstrate to me that she is sexually desirable, she sends a smiley faced greeting to the only male remotely in the area. You aren't fooling anyone dearie. You aren't even fooling yourself.


GravatarI agree arabella, why are you so angry and illogical? Let's talk about it.


GravatarYou are the topic here and you know it.


GravatarHey arabella....



GravatarThe medium IS the message!!!!


GravatarI'm not at all angry, annie. I'm logical though.

Why do you keep coming here? What does it do for you?


GravatarI'm waiting for someone to debate without flaming. I'm sure this board goes through stages, I can wait.


GravatarWhat do you mean by "the medium is the message." Explain. Marshall Mccluhan was way before your time;


Gravatarbe serious annie. you don't want to debate anything.


GravatarGood night, annie. I hope you can work your problems out because I can see that you're an unhappy person and that's sad.


GravatarOh arabella, have you stopped beating your kids yet?


GravatarI can't believe, 480 comments! It's a record =)


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