I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Oh my.
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I read that earlier this morning. So who hired him?
I do believe that n69n is downstairs in one of the open threads reading comments to one of the folks mentioned in the General's post.
I don't think Metheny works for Air America; I'm not even sure Springer does. Springer show, I believe, is syndicated out of WTAM in Cleveland. Metheny has been an executive with Clear Channel in Cleveland for some time. He's been here since before AA existed, I know that. He also has oversight over a number of stations, not just WTAM.
i love that think progress ferreted out bush's meeting with abramoff back in 2001... with that amount of money involved, how could bush have NOT met with scorpion jack...? it's also good to see that scotty coming on strong in the new year, lying his ass off...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
Holy Shi'ite thhat Genrul sure does save the best last with his posts.
the closing line is absolut genius(90 proof)
So at what point will he say to Springer, "You're the Anti-Christ, you know that? You are the motherfucking Anti-Christ!"
n69n is an associate of Lizz Winstead's, whose "Weekends with Maury and Connie" just aired.
Her talents are being wasted.
I need to type faster.
I posted a nice analysis of intercepts and the NSA below and now were talking about pig vomit.
They is a relationship, I guess.
See you later.
I've listened to Springer.
The show's biggest sin is that it's boring. Jerry is a nice guy, which was a surprise to me, because having never seen his TV show, I just assumed he'd be an asshole.
That said, he does often try to be "reasonable." He's always saying things like, "I think the president is probably a very nice man, but ..." or "There are probably very good reasons for the domestic spying, but ..."
A lot of wingnuts call Jerry. He takes the "I'm going to reason with them approach," but he usually winds up conceding a few points to them. Unlike Mike Malloy, who nukes every wingnut who calls, Jerry gives them (yet another) fucking platform.
And J's General is right: having Jerry on there makes a lot of sense when you consider that they canned Winstead and Maron.
That's my two cents.
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Well where ever he came from he's doing a great job. The Springer and Ed Schultz's broadcast are the best produced two of the bunch.
And count me in as someone who could care less about Howard Stern.
I've never listened to Springer's radio program though I've seen the tv show a few times.
Maybe that's why.
Springer's okay, but he certainly attracts the crankiest of the cranks to his radio show -- carry-overs from his TV show. He's polite to them, way too polite for my tastes.
In any case I MISS MARON!
I too have no doubt that fabulous Minnesota native Lizz Winstead is being wasted on Maurey & Connie. Nevertheless I hope it is successful for her sake.
Actually, I don't find that Springer gives that much quarter. I think he serves a purpose, just as velvet-voiced (ooh!) Malloy does. He seems to be trying to earnestly educate the morons, which may or may not work. Occasionally, I think he gets someone to see the light, and, if you're a teacher, those small victories matter.
Rachel rules AAR!!!
Steph rules too, but she's not technically AAR even though she's broadcast on their affiliate in Boston.
The rest of 'em? Eh.
Springer actually is smarter than his TV show would suggest.
But the TV show does serve as a not-so-subliminal deterrent to listening to his radio show.
They canned Unfiltered which was good and informative for Jerry Springer which is neither.
Franken solo is sleepy making.
And I can't afford to be asleep from noon to 3.
I'm sure that Mark Riley is a very nice guy and I'll give him a little longer. But he's an old pro so I don't understand how he can be floundering so.
Rachel Maddow is the best thing they have and now she comes on during my commute time so I really don't get a chance to listen to her.
I think Janeane Garafalo got bored with it all and she's hardly ever on anymore.
So basically I don't even listen to AAR anymore.
It's a shame.
We really need them this year and Danny Goldberg seems intent on destroying it.
Blak--I love Stephanie Miller, but since I got XM, I can't bring her in on the local affiliate. I do miss her iconoclastic humor.
Franken rambles too much. I enjoy Randi Rhodes because it's like having coffee with a girlfriend over stuff that matters. And Mike Malloy's terrific.
Springer actually is smarter than his TV show would suggest.
I'd hate to think it would actually be possible for anyone to be dumber than his TV show.
Andrew--Springer even makes fun of his TV show.
Mike Malloy is the kind of guy you want to listen to just before you storm the barricades.
I'd hate to think it would actually be possible for anyone to be dumber than his TV show.
Oh, I think that happens on a regular basis. There are a lot of folks in teevee news who appear intelligent and reasonable just by being able to string sentences together and by being all tidied up and slick on camera. But when you actually listen to what they're saying you wind up saying, "WTF?" on a regular basis.
Media Matters has created an entire business around exposing this sort of shite.
Mike Malloy is the kind of guy you want to listen to just before you storm the barricades.
Easily the crankiest guy on that network. And I love him for it.
"Have I mentioned yet tonight how much I hate these people?"
I've never listened to Springer's radio program though I've seen the tv show a few times.
Maybe that's why.
Someone needs to do a big, fat treatise on the schizophrenia that is Springer.
If you've ever heard the guy seriously talk about politics, he's sharp, intelligent, well-informed, and seems to know exactly what's going on. I've only heard brief snippets of his AirAmerica show, and he's a solid, well-spoken communicator (I'm not gonna comment on his content, since as I said, I've hardly heard him).
Then you look at the TV show. What. The. Fuck. Is. That??? By this point, he has to know it's the most totally embarassing thing to ever air on "free" TV, he has to know that his association with it is a ten million pound millstone around his neck if he ever wants to be taken seriously in the political arena, and he has to have made more than enough money from it to keep him comfortable for the rest of his life.
And yet, he's still hosting it.
There's some serious mental shit going on there...
lizz thinks that hilarious!!!
Lizz rules too, BTW.
HoneyBearKelly, my sentiments EXACTLY!!!!
Mike Malloy is the kind of guy you want to listen to just before you storm the barricades.
Especially when he speaks softly. The anger under that satiny voice is palpable.
Malloy on WLS was the zenith of talk radio. Millions listened as Mike railed against the flying monkeys. Lyons and Conason got him fired.
n69n,
Say hi to Lizz for us and tell her we miss her far more than we miss Kilby (not even close)
And tell her Ms. Watertiger and I think she may like this.
We put the brow, into lowbrow.
n69n,
Say hi to Lizz for us and tell her we miss her far more than we miss Kilby (not even close)
And tell her Ms. Watertiger and I think she may like this.
We put the brow, into lowbrow.
Atrios , i listen to you all the time on najority report radio... your awesome. You could have a great show on AAR. You and KOS... how great would that be ??
You know how good seder is and how awesome AAR can be as a platform for progressive ideas.
Jerry springer is a good liberal and a natural democrat... if he has a major flaw its::
Sometimes he can be too non confrontational and too congenial towards the right wing trolls who call his show...
Attatiger and Waterturk--have I mentioned how much I enjoy Rising Hegemon After Dark?
I'm lying of course. Malloy's departure from 'LS was completely amicable, don't let 'em tell you otherwise.
morning batties - how's everyone?
There's some serious mental shit going on there...
dave™
Yes, providing a forum for the Jethro Bodines of the world to participate in a slugfest whilst airing their dirty laundry on tv? If Springer is really that smart, it's the broadcast equivalent of slumming.
Tena--good morning! What can I do to help with Eschacon II?
n69n
Please tell Lizz we love her and miss her.
Unfiltered also had the best AAR blog.
:sigh:
As for Connie & Maury they seem stiff.
They're old pros too so maybe they'll loosen up.
n69n,
and don't forget to tell Lizz that you helped us!
I always enjoyed Atrios and Seder together; I think they make a good team. Majority Report was better when Atrios subbed for Janeane, IMHO.
Attatiger and Waterturk--have I mentioned how much I enjoy Rising Hegemon After Dark?
Well, that's ONE.
We're on a roll, atta.
Air America is an oasis here in Dallas where we are blessed with 3 24/7 right wing talk radio stations, not to mention 3 or 4 Christian stations that do their take on the news and overtly advance the Bush agenda.
Frank Wilkinson died, Monday. Speaking of government eavesdropping....
Springer was in his prime when he was here, too. God, I love this city![Ghostbusters]
I listen to Franken every day because he's the best, and funnier and smarter than the others. And he rarely takes callers which is a definite plus.
Randi Rhodes can be funny, but she can also be incredibly irritating. And she has no idea how to argue her case against the wingnuts. It's too painful to listen to.
I tried listening to Rachel Maddow when she subbed for Franken - boring!
And yeah, too many wingnuts on Springer. But he does kick ass once in awhile.
So Air America doesn't please everybody all the time, but it has something for almost everybody.
Attatiger and Waterturk--have I mentioned how much I enjoy Rising Hegemon After Dark?
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere
Thanks Sally, we try to make it funny (okay MEAN) without any substantial loss to our regular slightly more respectable blogs.
I listened to Springer's first show on AAR for about ten minZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
watertiger and attaturk - oh it's more than one - I read RisingHegemonAfterDark every day.
But the Karen Huge stuff is deeply disturbing and I can't gaze too long at that body hair without having nightmares.
Well, that's ONE.
We're on a roll, atta.
watertiger
Right one.
Because lord knows we are far too shy to ever promote our work ourselves. 
Well, that's ONE.
We're on a roll, atta.
watertiger
Right one.
Because lord knows we are far too shy to ever promote our work ourselves.
But the Karen Huge stuff is deeply disturbing and I can't gaze too long at that body hair without having nightmare
heh.
maybe we should think about liability insurance, atta dear?
Attaturk--since when did you worry about being respectable? 
Attaturk and Watertiger - Y'all better do something because if you warp my little psyche, I might sue you two.
maybe we should think about liability insurance, atta dear?
watertiger
Better update the disclaimer.
You're doing a heck of a job, Danny.
My vote for Sam Seder-he's funny, passionate, adorable and when he gets mad, he sounds a lot like Barney Fife.
You know, this old boomer is gonna respond to that voice with a smile.
But I sure do miss Marc Maron-he and the MS skits were laugh out loud funny.
Springer pays Air America for carrying his show, that got posted up in a lot of angry discussions about a month ago when Maron was on his way to the door. He made the list of AAR affiliates quite a bit bigger when he got them to pick him up; of course, a lot of them only carry Springer (like the Clear Channel outlet in Sarasota/Bradenton, which is otherwise wall-to-wall flying monkey right). It will be a long time before the wisdom of that trade-off can be judged, but dumping Unfiltered, which lead to dumping Lizz, probably left Dubious Danny Goldberg with a mouthful of bile for the funny, sequencing his contorted rationalization for dumping Maron. My take is that he's a shortsighted asshole, but like I said, only the fullness of time will tell.
The vacation replacement over the holidays was Jay Marvin, who's dynamite - an unapologetic, get-angry bleeding heart liberal who does mornings on 760am, the Air America outlet in Denver.
Marvin has roughly ten times the talent as Springer.
Kevin Metheny has been indeed working as a program director for several Clear Channel stations operating out of Cleveland. He produces Springer's show, although I believe Springer broadcasts either from his home in Cincinnati, or from a studio in Chicago, when he's there doing his silly TV show.
Actually, Metheny has filled in for Springer on occasion. I personally have heard him fill in twice for Springer, and he did a pretty fair job for not being "on-air talent." He had a very listenable voice, didn't have as strong a Southern accent as the Kenny character in "Private Parts" and he could actually reel off a good strong liberal rant when he wanted to. So you can make fun of him for his "Pig Virus" rep, and he IS an employee of Clear Channel, but he also is committed to liberal politics.
However, he is in the Springer "grant a wingnut the occasional point" style of radio talk. In fact, he is probably in part responsible for making that part of Springer's style. And there is probably room for that on Air America. It's interesting hearing the talent on AAR in their own unique voices. Malloy and Rhodes are in the "give no quarter" style, Franken is the star who gets all the star guests (and frankly, I had serious doubts about him as a solo act, but I think he's improved his game a lot since Katherine Lampher left). Rachel Maddow is a rising star. And if you have to have a "reasonable Liberal", it might as be someone who carries ratings in his pocket like Springer.
I have no doubt of their sincerity about their desire to infiltrate the Right Wing Radio monopoly with a liberal voice, but it's clear Franken is using AAR to prepare a path for a Senate run, the way Ventura used talk radio to make himself a viable political figure in Minnesota.
Perhaps Springer is doing the same. His name was floated a couple years ago as a Dem nominee in Ohio, but since people only related him to his TV show, that notion was dismissed quickly. Perhaps he is using his radio show to reconnect himself with Ohio voters as a serious political figure, with an aim to take one of the Ohio seats in the US Senate. Remember, not long ago at all, Ohio was represented in the Senate by a very liberal Dem (Howard Metzenbaum) and a moderate Dem (John Glenn). With the collapse of the Ohio GOP, the time is ripe for a Dem resurgence there. The problem is, the Dem party in Ohio has been a joke, and the opening may have been there for a "celebrity" Dem candidate. However, with the emergence of Paul Hackett and Sherrod Brown, they may find themselves winning those Senate races in consecutive elections, and Jerry will be left out in the cold with his zillions of dollars.
Anyone have any cats?
I had great hopes for Springer but have found his capitulations to the right really too much. Whatever his reasons are, I have lost respect for what I thought were democrat leanings. Right at the moment I would rather watch the TV show than the radio show and since I can't stand that there are three hours in the morning I have found nothing much to listen to.
Springer's show sucks, it is as dry as 2 week old toast. Marc Maron was a loss, a very funny and poignant man.
Jerry Springer has the best show on Air America. He has a great ability to clearly and reasonably state his positions, instead of just parroting every rumor he hears about Bush like most other non-conservative hosts. I rarely find it boring.
As a teenager in NYC in the early 80's I remember PV's programming of WNBC vividly - and Giamatti's portrayal of him was dead-on.
somebody mentioned Jay Marvin upthread, yeah I heard him sub with Springer, great voice and delivery, they need him syndicated.
I love Mike Malloy - and I loved the subs Werbe and Hartman - would love for AAR to find permanent spots for them.
I have to agree with the general concensus - Springer is smart, well-intentioned, occassionally funny, but that is easily the most boring show on radio. It is better when he does interviews, but not much.
I do tend to prefer the shows that do not take calls, like Franken. I would rather hear interviews with people who know something.
And I miss Maron like crazy!!!!
They fired Marc Maron?
Geez ...
As far as I'm concerned, AA imploded into utter obscurity when they brought Springer on board. The coup d'grace was screwing over SIRIUS to sign an exclusive deal with the ClearChannel cretins at XM.
R.I.P. AA. The Jones Network is the new hotness.
Marc and Mark was the best show on AAR. Only some kind of money grubbing, coin shaving, self important, greasy New York hippie ass wipe would have cut a show as excellent as Morning Sedition.
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