Ooh, goody! Hopefully, the decline of the the quite corrupt Ohio Rethugs will continue. I'm still waiting to see what happens with Coingate.
Of course, while in my dreams the Dems take back Ohio this year, the party is still not capable of taking as much advante of this as they should be.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.07.06 - 11:50 am | #
Has Faux apologized for calling Amanpour an al-Qaeda spokeswoman?
kei & yuri |
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01.07.06 - 11:50 am | #
What will the Busheviks do now?
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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01.07.06 - 11:51 am | #
Does that mean he loses his job as an ethics professor?
res ipsa loquitur |
01.07.06 - 11:51 am | #
Hitlery returned ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS!
IMHO, a good talking point if Dem's participation is brought up is why with Republicans controlling congress and the white house, has there been a doubling of lobbyists in Washington since Bu$h took office?
(courtesty of the News Hour last night)
FeralLiberal |
01.07.06 - 11:51 am | #
Impeach--Convict--Hand over to the Hague.
Again: Can you get them to say that on Fox? Please!
whiskeyina |
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01.07.06 - 11:53 am | #
From that Houston Chron story:
Before they take their seats in the House of Representatives, newly elected lawmakers come to Washington for a weeklong orientation that includes a briefing on congressional ethics.
Presiding over their instruction is the chairman of the House Administration Committee, who since 2001 has been Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio.
Now, Ney could have ethical difficulties of his own.
In the deepening investigation of former lobbyist Jack Abramoff, Ney is none other than "Representative #1," the lawmaker who received gifts and campaign donations in exchange for helping Abramoff and his clients 11 times, according to court documents.
I love the smell of indictments in the morning. Smells like...victory.
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere |
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01.07.06 - 11:53 am | #
Does that mean he loses his job as an ethics professor?
Do you believe that shit? Defiant to the last.
pie |
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01.07.06 - 11:53 am | #
Do you reckon Ohio will still vote red after that?
As long as there's Diebold, yes, I afraid.
Sweet Sue |
01.07.06 - 11:54 am | #
Comedy gold, kids!
dave™
good one dave
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 11:54 am | #
MSNBC just had a local commercial (I think) for "UrineGone" - a urine stain and smell remover.
Invest now. I suspect there's going to be a run on it before all this is over.
watertiger |
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01.07.06 - 11:54 am | #
maybe MoveOn could organize a fund drive for a TV campaign.
Tom DeLay: Indicted
Randy Cunningham: Indicted
Bob Ney: Indicted
Jack Safavian: Indicted
Larry Franklin: Convicted
the GOP; corrupt criminals running the country into the ground. Isn't it time for a change?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.07.06 - 11:55 am | #
"The congressman from Louisiana is certainly welcome to voice his opinion," Walsh said. "I would point out, however, that he has no firsthand knowledge of the issues involved here, and I would further note that the constituents in Congressman Ney's district recognize ... that one is innocent until proven guilty."
Unless it's the Clintoons.
Lime Rickey |
01.07.06 - 11:55 am | #
Throw them all in a near-bottomless pit and give them dead rat meat to live on, if that.
BlakNo1 |
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01.07.06 - 11:56 am | #
Guess I'm not expecting Ney to do a Cunningham rending of garments and donning of the hairshirt. But he could surprise me.
pie |
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01.07.06 - 11:56 am | #
The Democrats response to Repub corruption has been feeble. Rather than Culture of Corruption the stronger phrase would be Most corrupt government the past 100 years
Regarding Ohio, the Democratic Party structure has imploded the past 25 year. The only hope is for grassroot activists to take the party over. Opportunities like this come once every 50 years.
Carter |
01.07.06 - 11:56 am | #
What bothers me is that IOCIYAR--If a Democrat had come out and said Ney would be indicted, then it would be taken as having no credibility. Argh.
At least there was good news about the poll showing most people would vote for a Democrat...
vaughan |
01.07.06 - 11:56 am | #
Unless it's the Clintoons.
Lime Rickey
Fucking goddamned word.
I am so pissed.
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 11:57 am | #
I bet Nixon's smiling from his hot seat in hell.
pie |
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01.07.06 - 11:58 am | #
I wish a blogger somewhere could put up a nice leaderboard with a running total of Republican indictments throughout this administration, maybe even contrasted with Dem indictments. I'm afraid I might start losing track soon.
LOL |
01.07.06 - 11:58 am | #
Does the GOP have the chutzpa to say :
"Ok, you've indicted us all. But, if we were all convicted, you would shut down the Federal Government, because we are the majority. And of course, only indicting Republicans for the actions of a Republican machine is partisan. So, are you gojng to be partisan and shut down the government - in wartime, no less? Why do you support the turrsts?"
Nixon is probaly creating some space for the indicited goopers.
plus a welcome party......
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 11:59 am | #
Carter's right - this is an opportunity and it means taking control right now and the Democrats are just milling around, like they're waiting for someone to tell them what to do.
I'm just so pissed. The amount of corruption and criminal activity by this WH should have reached critical mass a long time ago.
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 11:59 am | #
I bet Nixon's smiling from his hot seat in hell.
Nixon hated (hates?) Bush and supposedly got screwed by him.
kei & yuri |
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01.07.06 - 11:59 am | #
... maybe MoveOn could organize a fund drive for a TV campaign.
I was thinking of that... along the lines of "When corruption charges overwhelmed the Republican majority in Congress, who did the Republican Congressional Leadership call upon to instruct its members on ethics? A man who was indicted on 11 counts of bribery in the Abramahoff scandal.
The Republican Party: the most corrupt political body our nation has ever endured..."
dave™ |
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01.07.06 - 11:59 am | #
Or, you could introduce them all to Mussawi, the character from Syriana.
My, what lovely fingernails you have...
BlakNo1 |
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01.07.06 - 11:59 am | #
The Democrats response to Repub corruption has been feeble
They've been at the trough too. Abramoff's list of recipients is extremely long, and bipartisan I might add.
function() |
01.07.06 - 12:00 pm | #
Convict them all. Let god sort 'em out.
left field |
01.07.06 - 12:00 pm | #
Did I say "Abramahoff?"
I regret the etc...
dave™ |
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01.07.06 - 12:00 pm | #
I wonder if Mr. Abramoff, by dint of assiduous efforts, put other Republican fund raisers out of business.
If so, how will sleazy money get to the Republican Party.
Perhaps some of the more colorful sources of campaign finding will dry up for the Republicans.
I suppose that Republican gay brothel in Georgetown could have a cookie sale.
Additionally, it's harder to raise money for a corrupt and failing business.
shawk |
01.07.06 - 12:01 pm | #
Abramoff's list of recipients is extremely long, and bipartisan I might add.
Awwwwww... the first moronic brownshirt fuck of the day.
Piss off, motherfucker. It's a lie, you know it, we know it, and so do your handlers.
dave™ |
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01.07.06 - 12:01 pm | #
considering the Goopers are weakened, now is the time to up the ante.
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:01 pm | #
Uh Dave, I'm on your side.
function() |
01.07.06 - 12:02 pm | #
OT (and maybe already mentioned) but one of the good guys has died.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.07.06 - 12:03 pm | #
considering the Goopers are weakened, now is the time to up the ante.
Moonbootica | Email | Homepage | 01.07.06 - 12:01 pm | #
Absolutely, right on the money. Go for the kill. You have to have the killer instinct to win in the big time.
left field |
01.07.06 - 12:03 pm | #
...I'm on your side.
Oh, I'm sorry - I meant a concern moronic brownshirt fuck - the cutest, most bestest brownshirts of them all!
Did I say piss off, motherfucker? Thanks in advance...
dave™ |
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01.07.06 - 12:04 pm | #
I don't give a fuck if they are dems or repubs, anyone who is tied up with this fuck needs to go NOW!!!
BlakNo1 |
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01.07.06 - 12:04 pm | #
Dave,
I don’t subscribe to the lock-step, blind loyalty practiced by the opposition and neither should you.
function() |
01.07.06 - 12:05 pm | #
...the stronger phrase would be Most corrupt government the past 100 years
Yes, and in their honor let's replace Ulysses S. Grant on the $50 bill with their demi-god, Ronald Reagan.
[Even though I think Reagan would be more fitting on the $100 bill, the preferred currency of drug smugglers.]
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01.07.06 - 12:06 pm | #
Do you reckon Ohio will still vote red after that?
As long as there's Diebold, yes, I afraid.
Sweet Sue | Email | 01.07.06 - 11:54 am | #
Diebold maybe, but the incompetence of the Ohio Dems helps a great deal.
I am happy with the big nominations candidates: Strickland for Gov, Hackett and Brown running for Dem nomination for Sen. But this has got to be a bottom up operation, we've got to get control of the state houses. This means better candidates, and better campaigns.
Also, unless you live in Toledo, the scandals haven't been in the daily papers that much. Abramoff's plea made the headlines here in Dayton-because of the Ney link-so someone there is paying attention. But until there are actual indictments, people aren't paying that much attention.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.07.06 - 12:06 pm | #
If Nixon were alive today he would say... Get me out of this coffin.
apeman |
01.07.06 - 12:06 pm | #
The only person in the "media" that spoke about miner's safety before this tragedy was Bobby Kennedy Jr.
And nobody likes listening to him because he has something wrong with his larynx.
HoneyBearKelly |
01.07.06 - 12:06 pm | #
didn't i read this morning that hastert has nye teaching remedial ethics classes?
Dammit, it keeps coming back to the question, "Why is the Democratic 'leadership' so spineless and useless?"
Are we seeing the effect of NSA monitoring of their private lives? A deal that, if they make no trouble, they get Diebold guarantees of perpetual re-election? Sheer uselessness? Utter cowardice?
Any Republican campaigner from 1979 onward would have so much fun & success trumpeting similar Democratic ineptitude and corruption that he'd probably rupture and die grinning. Why does the Democratic party shy away from aggressive use of events?
Speaking of going... Charles Kennedy has stepped down as head of the Lib Dems.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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01.07.06 - 12:06 pm | #
OT but oh so funny (from the NY Daily News)
Nuge shoots
off his mouth
'I go for walks late at night in high-crime districts, and just hope," says Ted Nugent, gun nut, guitar legend and would-be Michigan governor.
He's also a budding reality-show star, which is why he was in town last week, reminding pinko journalists like me why we live in NYC.
"I first started coming here the summer of '67," he said on a sofa at the Ritz-Carlton. "Nothing has changed. Still garbage on the streets, still scaffolding and construction everywhere."
But apparently New York is just nuts for The Nuge. "I love it, and they love me. The painters and the doormen and the three-piece-suit guys and the cops and the undercover guys - I mean all the undercover guys just blow it for me. They wave and show me their guns. I consider us blood brothers."
Nugent - a four-term NRA director who's a Michigan sheriff and a Texas constable - says he wants to take another shot at the Lansing governor's mansion in 2010.
"I could have won in '06," he said of the election, won by Democrat Jennifer Granholm ("She is not doing an ugly job, but as the perfect woman, she is scrotumless.")
So why did he pull out? "I figured the last thing I need with my multiple TV shows, my children's charity, my activism, my board of directors on all kinds of organizations, was the governor responsibility in a scrambling cleanup, damage-control situation, as Michigan is."
Apart from the sexism and homophobia (gays get likened to drug addicts and devil worshipers), there's also plenty of stuff that wouldn't pass Al Sharpton's smell test. Nuge doesn't like "the pimps and whores and welfare brats" who think they've "got the right to my [money] because Jesse Jackson represents [them]."
"The average person who qualifies under the poverty level in America has [bleep]ing cell phones!" he continues. "And Tommy Hilfiger clothes! And bling-bling! I've seen them ... gold and jewelry and crack and meth! This is poverty?
"A topless grandmother in a sofa surrounded by dog feces? If you're poor, you can't have a dog! You start by eating the [bleep]ing pets! Am I out of my mind?"
Survey says?
(Season two of "Wanted: Ted or Alive" premieres tonight on cable network OLN.)
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:06 pm | #
Buchanan was indicting all of them just before on MSNBC.
If you've lost Buchanan, you've lost, uh...the Nazis.
NTodd |
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01.07.06 - 12:07 pm | #
Buchanan was indicting all of them just before on MSNBC.
If you've lost Buchanan, you've lost, uh...the Nazis.
NTodd |
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01.07.06 - 12:07 pm | #
Tom yeah, the Lib Dems were mad to attack him, since he is a fairly popular leader.
his frontbench team were all grasping for power, so they are happy he is gone.
they are power crazed!
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:07 pm | #
MSNBC just had a local commercial (I think) for "UrineGone" - a urine stain and smell remover.
Invest now. I suspect there's going to be a run on it before all this is over.
watertiger
LOL - thanks for the laugh! - Its been a tough week for all of us.
portia |
01.07.06 - 12:08 pm | #
And nobody likes listening to him because he has something wrong with his larynx.
And yet Rita Cosby has a job on television.
watertiger |
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01.07.06 - 12:08 pm | #
from the link the troll provided:
• Don Manzullo (R-Ill.) received a total of $1,000 from the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians, not $3,000.
• Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) received money from the United Keetoowah Band Cherokee Indians, not the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. Thus, Coburn has been removed from the list because the Keetowah Band did not retain Abramoff as their lobbyist.
• The leadership PAC of Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.) received $5,000 from the Tigua Indian Reservation and $5,000 from the Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana, both in 2002.
• The National Republican Congressional Committee received $40,500 from the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians in 2004, not $20,500.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.07.06 - 12:08 pm | #
""Ok, you've indicted us all. But, if we were all convicted, you would shut down the Federal Government, because we are the majority."
It isn't already? Are we seeing the nations business truly being acted upon?
EkCenTriK |
01.07.06 - 12:09 pm | #
OT: Mine Safety Enforcement Seen Slipping Under Bush
That story gets worse and worse, too. I read this morning that the miners didn't know it, but they could have walked 2000 feet to safe air. There's no communication down there and they followed the rules, which say "stay where you are so you can be found." That's one of the contributing factors, if not the factor that lead to their deaths. They ran out of air, and there was breathable air not far away and nothing was blocking their access to it except they didn't know.
Someone tell me why there is no communication down in those mines when this happens? That makes no sense to me - we can communicate all over the fucking world and they can't figure out how to get communication to people underground? Goddamn it, there has been so much death since Bush took over that I just almost can't stand it anymore.
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 12:09 pm | #
Well Bobby Kennedy Jr. also deals in uncomfortable truth.
'I go for walks late at night in high-crime districts, and just hope," says Ted Nugent, gun nut, guitar legend and would-be Michigan governor.
I'll bet he does.
Lime Rickey |
01.07.06 - 12:10 pm | #
I give a fuck what a washed-up, never-was "rock star" has to say.
BTW, Tool does a better version of "stranglehold" than he does.
BlakNo1 |
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01.07.06 - 12:10 pm | #
'I go for walks late at night in high-crime districts, and just hope," says Ted Nugent, gun nut, guitar legend and would-be Michigan governor.
And so do we. Because most people are killed with their own guns.
watertiger |
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01.07.06 - 12:11 pm | #
they are power crazed!
Moonbootica
the Libs are afraid, just like Labour, of the new Tory leader. They can't beleive the tories found someone "electable". So they'll be lookink for their own tony now: all appearances, no content.
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:11 pm | #
What ever. I’m a troll now. If we are incapable of looking at our party’s own shortcoming we are surely fucked.
function() |
01.07.06 - 12:11 pm | #
but, but, but, the repukes were for the constitution before they were against it.
tbsa |
01.07.06 - 12:11 pm | #
'I go for walks late at night in high-crime districts, and just hope a thick negro will skewer me like khalool khalash," says Ted Nugent, gun nut, guitar legend and would-be Michigan governor.
kei & yuri |
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01.07.06 - 12:11 pm | #
watertiger,
HaHaHa!!!! I love your comments!!!
portia |
01.07.06 - 12:11 pm | #
MSNBC just had a local commercial (I think) for "UrineGone" - a urine stain and smell remover.
Invest now. I suspect there's going to be a run on it before all this is over.
watertiger
I overheard a commercial like that this morning while making breakfast: The announcer says "urine" with disturbing frequency--not to mention the unfortunate phrase "an appetite for urine."
Eewww.
Last night I saw an ad for some Kraft product involving cumbly bits of cheddar, using the old EMF pop tune "Unbelievable," but with the lyric changed to "You're Crumbelievable!"
I groaned, thinking how much money people get paid to be so stupid.
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01.07.06 - 12:12 pm | #
"Invest now. I suspect there's going to be a run on it before all this is over.
watertiger "
Let us not be hasty. One method of house breaking a pet is to rub their noise in their own stool before cleaning it up.
I think the same can apply here.
EkCenTriK |
01.07.06 - 12:12 pm | #
Plum P yep they want to become NuLab.
they had a real chance to become an alertantive to the Tories and Labour.
I am saddened.
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:12 pm | #
Not only do the Democrats normally suck, but if they won't go on the attack now, with the Rethugs tripping over their ankled pants, severe party restructuring is in order.
kei & yuri |
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01.07.06 - 12:13 pm | #
If we are incapable of looking at our party’s own shortcoming we are surely fucked.
Morning all. That's all. I'm working with all I've got.
Oh, I do like the perky background music on the UrineGone ads. Catchy.
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:14 pm | #
And so do we. Because most people are killed with their own guns.
watertiger
I was searching for a way to say that I hoped to hell he was jumped by about 10 guys and disarmed and taken out - you said it so succinctly.
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 12:14 pm | #
at least in British politics i am tired of parties trying to grasp the mythical centre ground.
it doesn't exist, have some fucking prinicples for a change!
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:15 pm | #
I am saddened.
Moonbootica
and when is Labour getting rid of Blair again? I think i hate the bastard more than I did Thatcher. And that's quite something cause i had murder fantasies about Thatcher back in the 80'S
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01.07.06 - 12:15 pm | #
hey, mena!
i'm just trying to motivate to get the hell outta the house.
not that I am saying that Hillary shouldn't twist in the wind for playing footsie with Abramoff. any DLC types who allowed themselves to be played by Jacko ought to go down. especially Hillary.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.07.06 - 12:15 pm | #
Plum P he keeps saying he will step down, but a man like that finds it hard to lose control.
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:16 pm | #
wt - is it as gray and miserable outside there as it is here?
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:16 pm | #
Atrios and other economists in the crowd: I'm not exactly blogwhoring, but trying to figure something out. The Fed is discontinuing reporting of M3. I think that could tie in both to the Debt Bomb scenario and to some people's desire to start the government investing public dollars in the stock market. But I'm no economist, and I don't like conspiracy theories in general.
but that isn't making it any easier, for some reason.
watertiger |
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01.07.06 - 12:17 pm | #
Ibrahim,
Yes continue the meme. If you manage filter out all of Abromoff’s proxy and surrogates the Dems are squeaky clean. Disingenuous, but correct.
function() |
01.07.06 - 12:17 pm | #
considering the Goopers are weakened, now is the time to up the ante.
Moonbootica | Email | Homepage | 01.07.06 - 12:01 pm | #
So true. But both here in the Buckeye State, and nationally, the dems are afraid to take off the gloves.
Something tells me that if enough Dems started making noise, there might be people out there to listen, not just people like us, who pay attention on a regular basis.
While Ohio is presumed to be red, it's really much more purple. While not much is going on at the surface, I am beginning to sense some unease among some folks where I work. They may watch Fox, but they still have to get there local news, and if local news starts covering it, it may get interesting.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.07.06 - 12:17 pm | #
Function:
Abramoff helped DeLay create the K Street Project, whose ultimate goal was to kill off the Democratic Party by totally starving them of corporate donations (a goal that would have succeeded if not for Howard Dean's energizing the small-money donors over the past three years).
(to be continued in the next post, since Haloscan won't allow more than three links per post)
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01.07.06 - 12:18 pm | #
but that isn't making it any easier, for some reason.
==
Must be the stars. I'm in the same boat.
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:18 pm | #
the concern troll seems upset that every penny Jack and Pamela donated between 2000-2006 went to Republicans. wonder why?
probably something about petards and hoists.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.07.06 - 12:18 pm | #
Moonbootica as a great American (Molly Ivins, I believe) said "the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and roadkill" (not the exact quote but close).
HoneyBearKelly |
01.07.06 - 12:19 pm | #
(Part 2)
As I noted in my post of 12:18 pm, none of Abramoff's own money went to Democrats -- it ALL went to Republicans.
Some Democrats got cash from some of Abramoff's clients, but you have to remember: Abramoff's Indian-tribe clients weren't his partners in crime, but his main victims. He hosed them for over $66 million in fees, fees that were outrageous, even by Capitol Hill lobbyist standards -- and then he turned around and lobbied AGAINST them.
It's very interesting that the ever-compliant GOP/Media Axis counts as "Abramoff-related cash" every single cent donated by Abramoff clients to Democrats -- even when it manifestly isn't part of Abramoff's money-laundering machine -- yet they don't apply that same counting standard to the monies raised by Abramoff for Republicans, especially George W. Bush.
Not to sound unfeeling but isn't the coverage of the surviving minor excessive?
CNN just mentioned his favorite music and deordorant
scout prime |
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01.07.06 - 12:19 pm | #
Throw them all in a near-bottomless pit and give them dead rat meat to live on, if that. | BlakNo1 - 11:56 am
Better yet, give 'em live rats, then stand back and see which lives on which.
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 12:19 pm | #
Must be the stars. I'm in the same boat.
i just stripped the bed so that I couldn't crawl back under the covers.
fn() -- Note that the list you link to lists " Abramoff's lobbying, and political contributions from Abramoff, the tribes that hired him, and SunCruz Casinos, since 1999."
He's a thug fundraiser and lobbyist and gave no money to Dems. After he was hired by the tribes in question, they were the only ones who donated more money to republicans than to Dems.
Virginia |
01.07.06 - 12:19 pm | #
OHIO HAS A REPUBLICAN FELON GOVERNOR AND YET HE IS STILL IN OFFICE AND OTHERS CONVICTED AND REQUIRED TO RESIGN FROM ONE OFFICE ARE ALLOWED TO REMAIN IN OTHER PAYING SPOTS
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01.07.06 - 12:20 pm | #
Before I go, I also want to add that those who think all dems shit ice cream and piss coca-cola are as useless to this country as the repubs who fellate the chimp no matter what.
BlakNo1 |
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01.07.06 - 12:20 pm | #
Cynicus:Any Republican campaigner from 1979 onward would have so much fun & success trumpeting similar Democratic ineptitude and corruption ... Why does the Democratic party shy away from aggressive use of events?
We're behind the 8 ball. The right wing has control of the media, they overwhelm us in raking in the campaign contributions. So the news does not really get out about the extraordinary levels of corruption. And, progressive Democratic reps, knowing this, are cautious.
Think, for a moment, what the news reporting would have been like if this were Clinton & the Democratic Party.
Carter |
01.07.06 - 12:21 pm | #
For those of you that don't know Minnesotan politics, we don't have a state Democratic party per se. We've got the DFL (Democratic Farmer Labor); the merging of Dem's and the more populist FL's back in the 40's.
But this is how they fundraise.
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01.07.06 - 12:21 pm | #
I can see why he had to go, but i have never seen such shabby behaviour from all invovled.
Moonbootica
yep! And the young turks are all on the right of the party. The left seems to be done in major parties in the UK. Tony highjacked labour, made it this right-centre-right slime, ahh, don't get me started, i loathe my mister blair...
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01.07.06 - 12:21 pm | #
Not to sound unfeeling but isn't the coverage of the surviving minor excessive?
CNN just mentioned his favorite music and deordorant
God knows it's more important to report his taste in music, deodorant, etc, than to investigate why mine safety standards are so lax.
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01.07.06 - 12:22 pm | #
Thanks for the parting laugh, WT, I needed that.
BlakNo1 |
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01.07.06 - 12:22 pm | #
'I go for walks late at night in high-crime districts, and just hope," says Ted Nugent, gun nut, guitar legend and would-be Michigan governor.
Well, Ted "The Nougat" Nugent always says he eats what he kills--maybe an act of urban cannibalism will help get votes, and make "must-see" reality TV.
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01.07.06 - 12:22 pm | #
i'm just trying to motivate to get the hell outta the house
I've been at work for 6 hrs already...get your ass in gear girl
FeralLiberal |
01.07.06 - 12:23 pm | #
those who think all dems shit ice cream and piss coca-cola are as useless to this country as the repubs who fellate the chimp no matter what.
uncle smokes....got your CD. Thank you!
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01.07.06 - 12:23 pm | #
I was standing in line at the bank yesterday, watching CNN in the lobby. The entire 20 minutes was devoted to the one miner. How many people were killed in Iraq yesterday?
Moe Szyslak |
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01.07.06 - 12:23 pm | #
I've been at work for 6 hrs already...get your ass in gear girl
FeralLiberal
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Yeah, but you have wine!
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:23 pm | #
shitting ice cream puts a whole new spin on Felching.
did ya'll know there is an actual town in Vermont called Felchville? look it up!
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.07.06 - 12:24 pm | #
Prof. Phillip E. Johnson is a Professor Emeritus of Law at UC Berkeley and the cofounder of The Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture and a senior wingnut par-excellence who wrote the excrebale Darwin on Trial.
Not to sound unfeeling but isn't the coverage of the surviving minor excessive?
scout prime
yes it is, again an indecent use of tragedy so CNN talking heads look like they have a heart inside their whore-selves.
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:25 pm | #
all dems shit ice cream and piss coca-cola...
Anyone showing those symptoms should get to a doctor immediately.
Ba'al |
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01.07.06 - 12:26 pm | #
Yeah, but you have wine!
Hey mena - Not here I don't
Been grey here too, just set a new record for consecutive overcast days. 15 and counting with no sun, really adds to my mood...
FeralLiberal |
01.07.06 - 12:26 pm | #
Those UrineGone ads really piss me off.
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 12:27 pm | #
Comments Pat Robertson?
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This schizo attitude toward death - that it's going home at the same time it's a horrible punishment. I know religion has nothing to do with logic, but still....
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:27 pm | #
I've been at work for 6 hrs already...get your ass in gear girl
Between 2001 and 2004, Abramoff gave more than $127,000 to Republican candidates and committees and nothing to Democrats, federal records show. At the same time, his Indian clients were the only ones among the top 10 tribal donors in the U.S. to donate more money to Republicans than Democrats.
Bush's comment about Abramoff in a Dec. 14 Fox News interview was aimed at countering Democratic accusations that Republicans have brought a ``culture of corruption'' to Washington. Even so, the numbers show that ``Abramoff's big connections were with the Republicans,'' said Larry Noble, the former top lawyer for the Federal Election Commission, who directs the Washington-based Center for Responsive Politics.
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01.07.06 - 12:27 pm | #
Bolivia's president-elect, Evo Morales, said yesterday he would cut his salary in half to fund social programmes. The leftist Latin American leader, on a visit to Paris, also said he would halve the salaries of lawmakers in his party.
Mr Morales's pay will drop from 28,000 bolivianos (£2,000) a month to 14,000 bolivianos. "If Evo Morales cuts his salary, it could pay for the salaries of 10 teachers," he said.
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:28 pm | #
Moonbootica as a great American (Molly Ivins, I believe) said "the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and roadkill" (not the exact quote but close).
HoneyBearKelly
I believe Ms. Ivins' is quoting her friend, Mr. Jim Hightower, who had a book, There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos.
Uncle Smokes |
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01.07.06 - 12:28 pm | #
How many people were killed in Iraq yesterday?
Moe Szyslak
exactement. It's been one of the worst week since the war started in Irak, but thank god for those dead miners, screams the cable news producers, we don't have to put that damning war back on air
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:28 pm | #
Not to sound unfeeling but isn't the coverage of the surviving minor excessive?
scout prime
Isn't news coverage in general a bit excessive, considering the veracity of the content?
ben |
01.07.06 - 12:29 pm | #
RE: Chris Matthews --
Remember that one of Abramoff's Potemkin charities was the Capital Athletic Foundation?
Well, GUESS WHO helped Abramoff and DeLay do a little fundraising for them?
None other than Chris "Tweety" Matthews. Check it out!
Phoenix Woman |
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01.07.06 - 12:29 pm | #
Been grey here too, just set a new record for consecutive overcast days.
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It gets to me much more than the rain or the cold. A bad winter here can make a person suicidal by the end of Feb.or so. I'm sorry you're having it too. What happened to the unnatural heat you guys were having?
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:29 pm | #
Not to sound unfeeling but isn't the coverage of the surviving minor excessive?
There's an old story about an English dinner party where everyone started talking about what they think happens when you die: heaven, hell, purgatory, reincarnation, nothingness. One of the guests, an elderly Anglican clergyman, finally says, grumpily, "I am quite certain that when we die we go to a Heaven of unspeakable bliss where we spend eternity with our Father and Lord Jesus Christ. Now, can we start talking about something more pleasant?"
T2 |
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01.07.06 - 12:30 pm | #
Buckeye: You're absolutely right. Ohio news reporting is very conservative & the state Democratic Party exists in name only. Our only hope is for Ohio activists to get the word out on radio talk shows, in conversations in hair palors, PTA meetings & other public events.
What's the word on the Repub state legislature's vote to make it more difficult to challenge ballot voting results. Boy, these guys are evil.
Carter |
01.07.06 - 12:30 pm | #
uncle smokes....got your CD. Thank you!
scout prime
Thanks for my list of victims, er, listeners!
Uncle Smokes |
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01.07.06 - 12:30 pm | #
I'll be done soon, we're getting huge new printing press installed and early this am they were shutting off the power to the entire building. I had to do an orderly shutdown on all the servers, and make sure all the other computers were shut down, now I'm bringing everything back up.
FeralLiberal |
01.07.06 - 12:31 pm | #
Hahahahahaha. DeLay agrees to stop his pathetic effort to keep his *leadership* roll. Idiot. He calls it quits. He must know he's about to get indicted again.
bigvic |
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01.07.06 - 12:31 pm | #
very nice here. for several weeks now. In Houston!!! Go figure.
Ba'al |
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01.07.06 - 12:31 pm | #
Well, fuck me! It wasn't a Lookit Troll!
watertiger |
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01.07.06 - 12:31 pm | #
watertiger : not a troll, look at CNN now!
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:31 pm | #
Delay must reaslise he is finished.
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:32 pm | #
Ooh, some celebrating is in order!!
Please Mr Bugman, feel free to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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01.07.06 - 12:32 pm | #
Moonbootica,
Do think that, quietly, some libdems are thinking 'maybe we could get Paddy Ashdown back now that he's finished with his job in Bosnia'?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.07.06 - 12:32 pm | #
DeLay must REALLY be in trouble.
bigvic |
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01.07.06 - 12:32 pm | #
Ha ha! /Muntz
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
01.07.06 - 12:32 pm | #
Not to sound unfeeling but isn't the coverage of the surviving minor excessive?
scout prime
Isn't news coverage in general a bit excessive, considering the veracity of the content?
ben
And by the way, Walter Cronkite was a newscaster -- just about everyone today is a spinner, a puffer, a distractor, an editorialist, a propagandist, and a paid shill for someone.
ben |
01.07.06 - 12:32 pm | #
Really going this time, I mean it.
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01.07.06 - 12:32 pm | #
Morning/afternoon, 'bats. I got nothing to add, 'cept I thought we'd straightened out all this stuff about Democrats not having received money directly from Abramhoff. If people reading HERE who are "on our side" haven't gotten the message, that seems rather a problem. (Besides, if crooked Dems get caught in this, good riddance.)
Abramhoff is like having a huge, lovely present in the corner bearing a tag that reads, "Do Not Open Until Some Undetermined Date In The Future." Arrgh.
(I'm slow today. I blame, and bless, the Vicodin.)
Silleigh |
01.07.06 - 12:33 pm | #
Oh, this is so great. That smile's been wiped off his ugly bug mug.
I'm surprised McCrery went on the record.
Culture of Truth |
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01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
Buckeye i'm not sure.
I think that his frontbench team ambitions proved too big for Charles Kennedey.
he had to go but they have done it in a sneaky underhanded way.
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
Let the reform of Congress begin without DeLay!
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
Is it true?
mena
yes yes yes! more after the commercial cnn says
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
'I go for walks late at night in high-crime districts, and just hope," says Ted Nugent, gun nut, guitar legend and would-be Michigan governor.
In his dreams, maybe. Because gun or no gun, that dumb stringy-haired, road-kill eating cracker would last about 3 seconds.
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01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
He calls it quits. He must know he's about to get indicted again.
bigvic
In the coming months there'll probably be a few who will "take one for the team," in order to give the appearance of the GOP cleaning house, allowing the reliable process of "reform" to keep the gravy train flowing.
Uncle Smokes |
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01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
OK, stop gloating now. Shift gears fast. The public already knows he's a crook. They have short memories and it won't help us in November. Now we must stop him from transferring his power and money contacts to someone else, and take down the new "Al Quaeda No. 3".
We should crack open the bubbly!
bigvic |
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01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
Abramoff, Jack A. and Pamela gave NOT ONE SINGLE PENNY to Democrats between 2000 and 2006.
So, algebraic one, what you think about that?
If you've been paying attention the general thought around here is that, if Dems are implicated, then they deserve to go down.
However, the media have focused on the "bipartisan" aspect of the story instead of the fact that the scandal is repuke in nature.
Billy B |
01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
DeLay (R-Indicted) Done, Ruined, Fucked.
And one of the candidates to replace him is Blunt (R-Under Investigation) I'd love it if they pick a replacement who has to step down in, oh, say, September thanks to Abramoff.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
Good riddance.
nick carraway |
01.07.06 - 12:34 pm | #
An allegory in Newsweek about Jack.
'My Boy' Had Become a Threat to Our Safety
Jack was smart, obedient—and growing more aggressive. If only we hadn't ignored the signs.
By Jonathan Cooperman
Newsweek
Jan. 9, 2006 issue - Sometimes there are no words—just a look. Upon my command, my Doberman, Jack, sat obediently in the vet's examining room. .... He sat between the vet and me, wagging his tail.
When I gave him the instruction "paw," he offered that big foot to the vet, who placed a tourniquet on his leg. The medicine was drawn into the syringe and pushed into Jack's vein. Two seconds elapsed, and it was during this extraordinarily brief space of time that Jack gave me that look, one I'd never seen before. I couldn't turn away. Then all that bulk went lifeless, and he was gone.
There were no words. There was no quote that I could take home and put in a diary. There was just that look.
Ba'al |
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01.07.06 - 12:35 pm | #
mena,
Yep. It's true.
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Well, well. Finally. You sure you don't have a bottle to break out, Feral?
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:35 pm | #
Johnson had a stroke?
Ah, time does wound all heels...
JR |
01.07.06 - 12:35 pm | #
Randy Cunningham: Indicted
Hasn't he been convicted too?
Culture of Truth |
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01.07.06 - 12:35 pm | #
If you've been paying attention the general thought around here is that, if Dems are implicated, then they deserve to go down.
What happened to the unnatural heat you guys were having?
We've actually been unusually warm the past couple of weeks after a month of bitter cold. Last Monday we had thunderstorms, my deck was covered in pea-sized hail!
FeralLiberal |
01.07.06 - 12:36 pm | #
Think, for a moment, what the news reporting would have been like if this were Clinton & the Democratic Party.
Uh, could we perhaps agree on a short code word or abbreviation or maybe just a symbol for this overused and basically useless meme?
Neh? |
01.07.06 - 12:36 pm | #
'I go for walks late at night in high-crime districts, and just hope," says Ted Nugent, gun nut, guitar legend and would-be Michigan governor.
I hope someone takes his gun from him, shoves it up his ass and pulls the trigger until it goes "click".
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.07.06 - 12:36 pm | #
Usually i have a sunday morning spliff to be able to watch the political shows...
I'm lighting myself a HUGE spliff now! Let's celebrate!
Delay is toast, Delay is toast!
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:37 pm | #
Wow, Republicans really do eat their own.
Stinky |
01.07.06 - 12:37 pm | #
Howdy, batties,
McCrery's just stating the obvious, innit he?
The Act for Love chick is so distracting.
smitty werbenmanjensen |
01.07.06 - 12:37 pm | #
function... I'll take your sincerity at word. But, this really is a Republican scandal. Democrats have been completely locked out of Congressional decision making & have no influence.
The Repubs are K Street/the lobbyists. The money Demos received seems to be from the clients, not the lobbyists & there seems to be no record of a quid pro quo.
Carter |
01.07.06 - 12:37 pm | #
Wow, Republicans really do eat their own.
The ship is sinking. To the lifeboats!!!
pie |
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01.07.06 - 12:38 pm | #
That cockroach will take the whole party down regardless. The GOP crooks and liars went to far overbaord there is no going back at this point.
bigvic |
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01.07.06 - 12:38 pm | #
I have to know; how's the right going to spin this?
ben |
01.07.06 - 12:38 pm | #
Uh, could we perhaps agree on a short code word or abbreviation or maybe just a symbol for this overused and basically useless meme?
Neh?
You sure you don't have a bottle to break out, Feral?
Not with me, but I'll be heading home soon, and the breaking out will begin!
FeralLiberal |
01.07.06 - 12:38 pm | #
Do you note, he stepped down at request of other (moderate) Republicans worried about the Abramoff Effect.
What they're saying is, we need a new face and top gun to answer the charges coming down on all of us. Tom, we love you, but this is business, capisce?
Indict, indict, indict. Pressure, pressure, pressure. A political machine is more like a sweater in this one way - get a loose thread going anywhere, and you can get more later, and end up unravelling all of it.
Lets pretend it's the Titanic, and the GOP is locked below deck in third class.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.07.06 - 12:39 pm | #
He was already forced to step down, right? So, this is just him saying he won't come back. Not a big deal in real terms. Now if he resigned his seat....
Moe Szyslak |
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01.07.06 - 12:39 pm | #
Their ship isn't necessarily sinking, and they're not eating their young. They're surgically cutting away the obvious malignancy so they can convince the voters TEN MONTHS from now that they're still a clean party, and keeping us safe from terriss.
Don't count them out. Focus, people, focus. Who's the new worst guy in the House, and who are the traitors inside our own party? Ten months to take both types out isn't long.
T2 |
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01.07.06 - 12:40 pm | #
As I noted earlier (and please don't make me post all those damned links again -- Haloscan hates them), the Indian tribes who were Abramoff's clients were not his partners in crime, but his main VICTIMS.
He soaked them for over $66 million over the last few years -- fees outrageously huge even by DC lobbyist standards -- and then went and lobbied AGAINST them. This, even as he was urging them to support Bush and the Republicans -- which as other posters have noted, they did, much more than other major American tribes.
The money they gave to Democrats wasn't part of the Abramoff scam at all, and the Democrats shouldn't let themselves be cowed into returning any tribal money. (Unfortunately, since letting themselves be cowed is part of too many Democrats' identity -- see Dick Durbin -- some already have, instead of trying to use the opportunity as a teachable moment.)
Phoenix Woman |
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01.07.06 - 12:40 pm | #
So what's next?
T2
come on T2! Give us at least a saturday afternoon worth of celebration, we've been waiting for that news for ages! Let's take the time to sing "nah nah nah nah hey hey goodbye" at least a couple times!
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:40 pm | #
Listen, as long as the donation was legal, there's no legal action that can be taken against a politician.
Now they might want to give the donation back for appearance's sake, but that's their own decision to make. So far, the only people linked to illegal gifts that I've read of are Ney and DeLay. I haven't read much further than that.
smitty werbenmanjensen |
01.07.06 - 12:40 pm | #
Not with me, but I'll be heading home soon, and the breaking out will begin!
FeralLiberal
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Hooray! This really does seem to call for a celebration. I know we've had indictments, but this feels concrete. It's a tangible loss for them. hooray!
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:40 pm | #
Now if he resigned his seat....
Patience, patience......
ben |
01.07.06 - 12:41 pm | #
Last Monday we had thunderstorms, my deck was covered in pea-sized hail!
FeralLiberal
Same here. We had tornado warning and 72 degrees. Thank God it's been warm after getting my last heating bill. Ouch!
bigvic |
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01.07.06 - 12:41 pm | #
the republicans are self destructing.
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:41 pm | #
Why, I'm... I'm... shocked. I expected the Democrats to be more corrupt. When are those damned corrupt Democrats going to start catching up to the Republicans?
DeLay finally steps down cos the pressure from other repubs were building? All I can imagine is the montage from The Graduate when Elaine is trying to figure out at the altar if she should go with Ben or not.
footloose |
01.07.06 - 12:42 pm | #
He plead guilty, awaiting sentencing.
tbsa
As a matter of law, a guilty plea is the same as a conviction. So yes!
Culture of Truth |
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01.07.06 - 12:42 pm | #
But, this really is a Republican scandal. Democrats have been completely locked out of Congressional decision making & have no influence.
Exactly. I have no doubt that there are some congressional Dems who'd love to be as corrupt as a Republican, but the way the Republicans run Congress there is little point bribing a Dem because they can't deliver anything.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
01.07.06 - 12:42 pm | #
I'm sorta amused at Mitch McConnell's $18, 500
From Abramoff, and the opinions I've heard that donating the tainted money to charity does NOT absolve those that accepted it.
plantsman |
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01.07.06 - 12:42 pm | #
Their ship isn't necessarily sinking, and they're not eating their young. They're surgically cutting away the obvious malignancy so they can convince the voters TEN MONTHS from now that they're still a clean party, and keeping us safe from terriss.
I disagree. The removed earwig was female - and it laid eggs.
Stinky |
01.07.06 - 12:42 pm | #
Plum P: OK, I guess you're right. I'm still in a pissy mood about the Debt Bomb, and feeling the urge to NOT WASTE TIME. These guys keep snatching victory etc. etc. and I don't want to leave even a cell left of their skank that someone someday might clone.
T2 |
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01.07.06 - 12:43 pm | #
Rode my bike this morning. Starting temperature: 28 degrees. Had chemical warmers stuffed in my gloves and my shoes, so stayed fairly comfortable. My water bottle froze, but I had sugary tea in my second bottle, which made it through the ride without freezing.
smitty werbenmanjensen |
01.07.06 - 12:43 pm | #
The only hope is for grassroot activists to take the party over. Opportunities like this come once every 50 years.
Carter
He's right about how rare such an opportunity is. It'll only do the dems good if they are committed to changing Beltway Culture -
the republicans are self destructing.
Moonbootica
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Yes they are, Moonbootica. Their media will do its best to stop this, but I don't think they can. And it's going to be very sweetindeed to watch, after what they've done to this country.
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:43 pm | #
how does giving your dirty money away to charity absolve you of sin?
Moonbootica |
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01.07.06 - 12:44 pm | #
The ship is sinking. To the lifeboats!!!
watch as the Republicans scramble over the women and children to get to the lifeboats first.
watertiger |
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01.07.06 - 12:44 pm | #
TZ: Yep. We gotta go after Blunt, and anyone else they'll dredge up. Start Googling now for oppo!
Phoenix Woman |
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01.07.06 - 12:44 pm | #
To avoid a fit of schadenfreude, here's the bright side: Mr. Delay will get to resume his true calling, gassing insects without remorse. One look at his face, and you understand that job is what God designed him to do.
So here's a toast to Mr. Delay to wish him godspeed while spraying cockroaches in churhes across rural Texas--an honest days' work for and honest days' pay!
Uncle Smokes |
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01.07.06 - 12:44 pm | #
Blak No. 1, function, I don't think anyone here is saying that Dems "shit ice cream and piss coca-cola." Biden, Lieberman, even H. Clinton have been raked over the coals repeatedly.
But in the face of the overwhelming scale of corruption the Rethugs have been perpetrating, to play the Rethug talking-point "Dems do it too" game is ridiculous. Not only that, it defuses the indigation that such nefarious Rethug misdeeds should be generating.
As many of us have said, if there's evidence against Dems, indict them, too. But let's not help build among ourselves that fake equivalence crap.
sister of ye |
01.07.06 - 12:44 pm | #
I'm still saving my champagne for Karl Rove's indictment, but I'll definitely have another cup of coffee and toast the news that Tom Delay is no longer the federal government.
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QuentinCompson |
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01.07.06 - 12:44 pm | #
72 degrees
We've only been in the low 40's but usually this time of year it's in the teens.
FeralLiberal |
01.07.06 - 12:44 pm | #
The Scandal-Plagued Bush Administration.
kei & yuri |
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01.07.06 - 12:45 pm | #
Mitch McConnell is from Kentucky. So dammed poor a state that the Senators hold out for the small change in the bribing, not just accept the round number offer.
Their ship isn't necessarily sinking, and they're not eating their young. They're surgically cutting away the obvious malignancy so they can convince the voters TEN MONTHS from now that they're still a clean party, and keeping us safe from terriss.
Don't count them out. Focus, people, focus. Who's the new worst guy in the House, and who are the traitors inside our own party? Ten months to take both types out isn't long.
T2
Another winner!
As was said after the Democratic wins in the last election, "Not a New York minute for gloating."
The really hard work is still ahead.
OK.....maybe a New York minute, but not weeks of it -- they won't be standing still, and we can't stand still either.
ben |
01.07.06 - 12:45 pm | #
Delay steps down and, according to that story:
Rep. John Boehner (news, bio, voting record) of Ohio, a former member of the leadership, is also likely to run
Crap. He's my rep, and we have no candidate against him. Alas, he doesn't seem to be implicated in any of the scandals. He's just an ass.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.07.06 - 12:45 pm | #
Rode my bike this morning. Starting temperature: 28 degrees.
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It's like you're from some other planet or something.
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:46 pm | #
how does giving your dirty money away to charity absolve you of sin?
Moonbootica
Well, remember it's clean money from a dirty source. Does it absolve you of sin? Well, depends on how you feel about campaign finance as it exists, receiving legal money from somebody who wasn't under indictment (then) but is (now), and how you try to make up for that.
smitty werbenmanjensen |
01.07.06 - 12:46 pm | #
Delay steps down from what?
He already stepped down from his leadership position -
what what what?
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 12:46 pm | #
watch as the Republicans scramble over the women and children to get to the lifeboats first.
...opnly to be stopped when one of the women whips out an Uzi and turns them into shark chum.
(A girl can dream, can't she?)
Phoenix Woman |
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01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
Um,
I saw the sun for the first time in two effing weeks today. I'm typing blind right now.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
So here's a toast to Mr. Delay to wish him godspeed while spraying cockroaches in churhes across rural Texas--an honest days' work for and honest days' pay!
Uncle Smokes
now lets fumigate the rest of congress!
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
I don’t subscribe to the lock-step, blind loyalty practiced by the op--
I feel like I'm living in fucking Australia.
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
OK.....maybe a New York minute, but not weeks of it
Jebus, how about an hour or two?
What a bunch of wet blankets.
pie |
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01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
Wheee! what a glorious morning it has been, and all of the last week, despite some personal physical difficulties that have left me feeling beatup and worn out, every time I open up the powerbook and take a little time to see what's going on in the world outside, I get these wonderful presents of yet another crisis for the Republican party.
DeLay is finished. washed up, and soon to be pleading out on one set of charges or another.
He'll never be able to bully people from his seat of power in the House, and I doubt if he'll even run again. This man has been a virulent pox upon the nation for far too long.
and the news that the "Duke" wore a wire, that Abramhoff had been 'co-operating' with the Feds for several months, possibly wearing a wire, that Ney is going to be indicted too,
well, it's as good as a Lortab and flexaril tonic for my aching heart and body.
Now we just gotta convince the Dem leaders that it's time to hit the Death Star with everything we got.
NMRed |
01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
He was already forced to step down, right? So, this is just him saying he won't come back. Not a big deal in real terms.
Bull! My rep. has taken Abramoff money and so have many others. Giving the dirty money to charity won't erase the stink attached to being a DeLay loyalist. Dems can run a hell of a campaign against rethugs on this issue alone. And more will be indicted in the coming months.
bigvic |
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01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
I rally in support of Plum P, as all fellow spliff-addled Atriots must.
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 12:47 pm | #
watch as the Republicans scramble over the women and children to get to the lifeboats first.
More likely they'd try to bribe their way on.
Old habits die hard.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.07.06 - 12:48 pm | #
He already stepped down from his leadership position -
Temporarily. He just agreed to make it permanent.
pie |
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01.07.06 - 12:48 pm | #
Mr. Delay will get to resume his true calling, gassing insects without remorse.
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That went through my mind too. It would be soooo fitting.....
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:48 pm | #
As a matter of law, a guilty plea is the same as a conviction. So yes!
Culture of Truth
He was not convicted by a jury of his peers, he admitted his wrong doing.
tbsa |
01.07.06 - 12:49 pm | #
and the news that the "Duke" wore a wire, that Abramhoff had been 'co-operating' with the Feds for several months, possibly wearing a wire, that Ney is going to be indicted too,
Dirty, rotten lying, stealing crooks. And such good christians, too!
bigvic |
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01.07.06 - 12:49 pm | #
He already stepped down from his leadership position -
He stepped down "temporarily" & Blunt was "Acting" Leader. He didn't really resign then, but has now which means the Republicans will pick another leader. Not sure how they pick, a vote or maybe they just add up the bribes.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
01.07.06 - 12:50 pm | #
Neh?...Uh, could we perhaps agree on a short code word... for this overused and basically useless meme?
You're missing the point - how news is reported becomes the country's reality & there is a sharp slant toward conservatives.
Thus, this story is being soft pedaled. If this were Democrats, this story would be 24/7, there would be a media feeding frenzy, & the public would be focused on whether Clinton -having disgraced the office - should resign. Because of the coverage, Democrats would suffer significant losses in the upcoming election.
Contrast the low level coverage with the big media play on stay overs in the Lincoln bedroom. There never was evidence forthcoming that there was a quid pro quo but yet it was 24/7 & Americans were talking about it as being terribly serious.
Are you with me, yet?
Carter |
01.07.06 - 12:50 pm | #
I esp. liked this:
DeLay intends to remain in Congress, these officials said, and plans to seek a new term in November.
Run, Tommy, run! Keep that seat the rest of the year! We want your smiling face front and fucking center every fucking day!
dave™ |
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01.07.06 - 12:50 pm | #
I'm gonna take a shower and see if it wakes me up. Even the delay news isn't doing it.
mena |
01.07.06 - 12:51 pm | #
This practice of giving ill-gotten gains to charity also strikes me as patently bogus and offensive.
As someone here commented, I think, it's like a busted bank robber grandly offering to donate the dye-soaked bags of cash to charity as a demonstration of good faith and righteous remorse.
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 12:51 pm | #
I Nominate Bob Ney to be the next Republican Majority Leader.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
01.07.06 - 12:51 pm | #
(just pic)
watertiger
Nooo! Delay will kill this cute furry thing!
Little brother: oui! The munchies are starting as well...
If this were Democrats, this story would be 24/7, there would be a media feeding frenzy, & the public would be focused on whether Clinton -having disgraced the office - should resign.
Yeah we'd noticed. And it isn't going to change.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
01.07.06 - 12:53 pm | #
Delay stepping down is a good thing, but it's also just a little more Repub strategy as T2 noted.
Too-little-too-late strategy perhaps, but strategy nonetheless.
Remember: politics is just a tag-team match. the next El Sucio is already jumping into the ring, somewhere.
ben |
01.07.06 - 12:53 pm | #
I rally in support of Plum P, as all fellow spliff-addled Atriots must.
Little Brøther
Wait a second, I'm not completely spliff-addled yet. Let me clean the pipe...
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 12:53 pm | #
Old Man - thank you. I know it wasn't permanent - so he resigned the leadership position - has he resigned from the House altogether?
Tena |
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01.07.06 - 12:54 pm | #
Monday we had thunderstorms, my deck was covered in pea-sized hail!
FeralLiberal - 12:36 pm
Well, if your deck is ever covered in hail-sized pee instead (yes, I wrote "deck"), there's a great product out there called UrineGone that'll do the trick.
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 12:54 pm | #
Never mind - Atrios just posted a link about Delay.
Run, Tommy, run! Keep that seat the rest of the year! We want your smiling face front and fucking center every fucking day!
dave™
The Texas fundies will always be behind him, but I wonder if that Russian oil money will give pause to the "America First" types, with long memories basted in anti-Russian propaganda.
I'm waiting for the other Delay shoe to drop in the form of his shameless gerrymandering scam being declared illegal.
Even in the dead of winter, hope springs eternal.
Uncle Smokes |
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01.07.06 - 12:57 pm | #
everybody must get stoned (like sang Dylan)
I'm making a ton of french bread to feed my munchies, with real québec maple syrup on top. Any takers?
Plum P |
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01.07.06 - 12:57 pm | #
"A guilty plea is a conviction, and, once accepted, nothing remains but to enter judgment and impose sentence."
See Boykin v. Alabama, 395 U.S. 238, 242-43
Culture of Truth |
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01.07.06 - 12:57 pm | #
I'd have liked DeLay to remain in power so he could have brought the Repubs down with him in 06. If Blount takes over, he's another DeLay so nothing changes.
Carter |
01.07.06 - 12:58 pm | #
I Nominate Bob Ney to be the next Republican Majority Leader.
The Old Man From Scene 24 - 12:51 pm
The Neys have it!
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 1:00 pm | #
Plum P, please serve the "french bread"-- toasted, preferably-- upstairs. Thanks.
Little Brøther |
01.07.06 - 1:02 pm | #
I saw the "Breaking News" item about DeLay on CNN just now, and I had to stop and think about whether it was news or not. (Part of the reason I go to CNN at all is to find out what Bizarro/Bobo's World is reading about, so I always have a grain of salt handy.)
If Bizarro World hadn't sprung into existence these last five years, we wouldn't be reading about DeLay's decision not to pursue leadership positions, 'cause there'd be no freaking way someone that blatantly crooked could be taken seriously.
On the other hand, I'm foolishly, naively hopeful that this tiny crocus sprout of decency (bad guys not winning for once) means we might be able to grow some integrity again. I feel kind of silly for daring to hope, though.
Robin |
01.07.06 - 1:04 pm | #
In the Republican version of Lord of the Flies, all the characters are Piggy.
R.McGeddon |
01.07.06 - 1:30 pm | #
Two years too late, I'll say
lezzbo |
01.07.06 - 1:42 pm | #
McCrery is a Big Ol' Closet Queen, outed in The Advocate back in the early 90's. The Rethuglicans just ignored it and moved on
Wonder if there's any "pillow talk" on Randy "Duke" Cunningham's wire.
Or did he agree to get wired up so none of the "pillow talk" between him and his boating enthusiast boytoy leaks out.
David Ehrenstein |
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01.07.06 - 2:34 pm | #
And my own stalwart Congressman, the ever-loyal David Hobson, claims that Ney was 'duped' by Abramoff.
Gotta love those Republicans.
Jon Koppenhoefer |
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