I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
They're ALL Communists!!!
please tap this call
shockingly, i was second..
er, third...
Not 97th
All Americans are traitors.
And BTW,
Anybody think Al Zawihiri looks a like Cheney in a beard?
Just sayin'
Have they ID'ed the American female journamalist kidnapped in Eye-raq yet?
I'm sure they're obtaining warrants now.
Yellowcake.
Washington Monument.
Dirty bomb.
Shoe.
Boxcutter.
Weapons grade.
Encryption.
Allah.
Im'shallah.
The People.
I'm not afraid of you, NSA spooks! I'm not afraa..agp CZX J:O
What do they think it's 1917 again? Chuy, these nutters.
But while I'm here, anybody up at this level want to put together my new elliptical bicylcle thingey? Just checking....
I'm sure some right winger blogger will be along any second to suggest that they all be hung from lampposts.
I'm still sad that it's not up near 90%. Damn public schools. What do you think the answer would have been in 1895?
sorry to double post;
Apollo was ending,
It's worse then that. The US now has to contract with the Russians to be able to lift astronauts to the ISS space station.
NASA Strikes $44 Million Deal For Soyuz Flights
By Brian Berger
Space News Staff Writer
posted: 05 January 2006
2:21 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON - NASA will pay the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roskosmos) $21.8 million per passenger for Soyuz rides to and from the International Space Station (ISS) starting this spring.
http://www.space.com/news/
060105...ssia_soyuz.html
This is pleasantly surprising
news...
Owls crapping on Lieberman. And if you've ever seen owl crap, you know that's not nice.
NASA will pay the Russian Federal Space Agency
More outsourcing. Do we do anything here anymore? I mean, even the Czechs are beating us at porn.
I'm sure they're obtaining warrants now.
Yellowcake.
That's just a talking point. Uranium ore isn't that scarce. Now getting there from raw ore, to weapons or reactor grade U235 is difficult.
we could always outsource our domestic spying to china.
It is because they have been misled by the treasonous media into thinking that it is illegal to disobey the law.
God how I want to execute some of those treasonous reporters.
Well, actually, I don't really want to be the one to do the executing. I just want to watch.
Actually, that might make my stomach upset--I pass out if I see real blood.
Just tell me when they're all dead. Thanks.
How do they feel about looking into smail mail?
the belief in a right to privacy (see reaction to Schiavo outrage) must still be pretty strong in the american psyche.
How do they feel about looking into smail mail?
Oh pooh - all I ask is that they put the letter back in the right order and not leave out any pages. It makes it too darned difficult to see what the instructions are!
we could always outsource our domestic spying to china.
pretzelattack
chow mein kampf
More outsourcing. Do we do anything here anymore? I mean, even the Czechs are beating us at porn.
T2
Shockingly, a majority of American think "the government should be required to first get a court warrant to eavesdrop on the overseas calls and e-mails of U.S. citizens when those communications are believed to be tied to terrorism." This is even stronger than what FISA allows for, which is a retroactive warrant 72 hours after the fact.
the liberal majority
The good thing about all this illegal wiretapping is I no longer have to write a letter to the editor for Bush to know what I think of him.
You don't have to write a letter to the editor for Bush to know what you think.
Unfortunately, you still have to be a $100,000+ Bush Ranger for him to care what you think. But, pay enough, and he will let you tell him what to think about you.
Such a nice man.
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Hey, I blogged and whored this earlier today.
[pouts]
Americans tend to think of government action in terms of how it will affect them personally. It's the legacy of Reagan.
That's what's so disturbing to them about this. Bush didn't get warrants because he didn't want a record of who he was spying on. The ones he didn't want to tip off were people who had nothing to do with terrorism and who thus had no reason to suspect their privacy would be targeted.
People like Bush's political "enemies." Dissenters. Democratic organizers. Democratic members of Congress.
People on some level will realize this if it is put to them correctly. That's why this poll is important. It utterly negates the message behind "If you're not a terrorist you have nothing to worry about."
The good thing about all this illegal wiretapping is I no longer have to write a letter to the editor for Bush to know what I think of him.
See? There's always a silver lining...
Hey, I blogged and whored this earlier today.
[pouts]
NTodd
Yes, dearie, that's right. You were showing Mexico what goes on, weren't you? That's nice.
So 44% think the Prez can spy on Americans without judicial oversight?
Yikes!
Or is some unidentified percentage actually aware of the FISA law and thinks warrents are necessary, but the retroactive application is ok?
People on some level will realize this if it is put to them correctly.
That's, uh...kinda what I said.
I'm boring about this history
Yes, dearie, that's right. You were showing Mexico what goes on, weren't you? That's nice.
He knows who the alpha is, and it ain't Atrios!
i will keep on saying it: Bushco didn't just spy on Democrats and other political enemies. They spied on their own as well. Once you have a spy apparatus, it becomes not just 'what is the enemy up to?' but also 'just how loyal are our people?'
Show Bushco spied on Demos, journalists, etc, and you can impeach them
show they spied on McCain, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, etc, and Bushco will flee the country to escape the shitstorm.
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"Why do Americans hate America?"
Actually, to the right wingers, I that statement actually isn't very far off, they DO think most Americans hate their ideal way of life.
I don't LEE believe any of HARVEY this bollocks OSWALD about the WHERE government ARE spying YOU on its citizens. NOW I mean that's THAT ridiculous, YOUR 1984 is just a paranoid political COUNTRY allegory and Clancy is NEEDS pulp fiction for whiny-ass titty-babies. YOU? This is the USA, goddamnit, not North Korea. Grow up.
He knows who the alpha is, and it ain't Atrios!
NTodd
Cairo, right? Stef? It's okay.
He knows who the alpha is, and it ain't Atrios!
NTodd
Cairo, right? Stef? It's okay.
Surprisingly, I'm the alpha in our pack. Apparently I have a good command voice, though I admit it doesn't work so well on Stef.
He knows who the alpha is, and it ain't Atrios!
NTodd
Cairo, right? Stef? It's okay.
Surprisingly, I'm the alpha in our pack. Apparently I have a good command voice, though I admit it doesn't work so well on Stef.
Fear works, plain and simple. Which makes FDR's quote on the subject more poignant than ever.
My response to the letter from idiot in the Metro (Philly) yesterday.
To: letters@metro.us
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006
Anytime a letter from Ryan Tickner appears on this page, you KNOW it's mindless cheerleading for the Bush Regime.
Tickner says in his January 6 rant that any American who doesn't like the idea of being spied on "should move to Cuba."
Wait a minute -- if you don't like the idea of living in a totalitarian nation, the remedy is to pack up and move to.....a totalitarian nation?
How backward is that?
Someone please tell Tickner that "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" (according to Thomas Jefferson). Bush is NOT America and disliking him is NOT synonymous with treason. Tickner may want to hand over HIS civil liberties but the vast majority of Americans most certainly do NOT.
Oh, and people are NOT going to shut up and go away because Tickner and other Bush supporters SAY so.
THIS is is OUR country, too!
Pandora's box.
Quagmire.
Can 'O worms.
Kettle of fish.
Clusterfuck.
Micharl Jackson to the rescue!
Apparently I have a good command voice, though I admit it doesn't work so well on Stef.
NTodd
Woof.
Mexico! Andelay! Ven aqui!
Good boy.
If you took a copy of the Bill of Rights to a shopping mall, and tried to get people to sign it to put it on the ballot as a ballot measure, you'd get all sorts of comments that it's some sort of commie plot.
This was done in the 60's, and that's what the petition circulators discovered.
All too many Americans are utterly ignorant of the very Freedoms they seem to believe those terrible brown people wearing dishcloths are trying to take away from them.
Why Do Americans Hate America?
And, let us not forget, it's not just Americans, per se -- but the "majority" of Americans!
Clearly, the majority of Americans are with the terrorists!
Moreover, the terrorists obviously share most Americans' preference for obtaining FISA warrants in cases of secret surveillance -- what else could explain such amazing synchronicity? Who knew?
Hence, according to Rovian logic, the majority of Americans hate America!
But, get this straight, you majority of Americans:
The Bush crime family now has the capacity -- and has seized the authority -- to eavesdrop and data-mine land lines, cell phones, internet servers to track web browsing and read the e-mails of the vast majority of Americans --so don't you forget it!
Message from Bush to the America-hating majority of Americans:
Keep your mouths shut!
And we will know, because we are listening....
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Two thirds of Republicans think it's okay to have snooping without warrants. Republicans are anti-American and US Constitution. There is not other way to look at it.
Hey anybody can get a list of all your outgoing and incoming phone numbers for $110. if any one knows the phone number of someone famous or in the policeman, pay $110 and you get the information. Amazing.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/...r-
incoming.html
I don't know how this is playing out on the airwaves in the US (I'm US, but living abroad, my mother still lives in the US and I use her as a touchstone to what the chronically uninformed think) but I just come to the conclusion that the folks that keep abreast of current events know how wrong this is, the others just want to close their eyes and ears and "have faith"....or else they respond "ah..they're all crooks anyway".
I blame the dumbing down of our schools partly. People that know history, know things like
empires draw fire, and don't last
Unchecked power is ALWAYS abused
When power is abused, being innocent is no defense
Democracy is not "majority rules" it is "majority rules EXCEPT for certain inaliable rights, which shall not be abused even if the majority wants it to be"
That fascism doesn't announce itself, it creeps in. Starts with ID cards mandatory for everyone for example, then moves on to RFID (radio freq Identification) which means you are tracked baby. Even if you are just shopping next to a bunch of "commie, terror loving demonstrators" when the police scan all the RFID cards, you'll be listed too.
Mainly though, that freedom has a price. You cannot be safe no matter what, even in a police state they have terror, so what is the point of giving up freedom and still being in danger?
You guys know all this. My mom thinks she is "aware", because she "reads newspapers, watches news on TV" but has no clue about basic, known events that have happened under Bush.
And EVEN if we managed to get news to actually report news, with context and examples and explanations about WHY freedoms are important, the most some people would do is say "oh...hmm..that's no good" and never think to demonstrate or even write their congressman.
We've taken liberty for granted. Pendulum is still swinging.
It's getting more and more frustrating and hopeless, even as it all unravels, because the thugs know how to overwhelm, lie, and confuse. I think it is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
Our forefathers faced death, and chose freedom. That didn't get "quaint", that didn't become unfashionable. We just have too many people that think it all should be easy. I have a theory that Bush and the gang are such mutants, (like Germany got in the 30's) that no one knows how to actually deal with him.
OR the democrats are in on it, the way Gore, then Kerry just caved. The way the demos don't make any points about ALL that has come out...just makes no sense to me. Unless it is like World Wide Wrestling and a circus for the rubes.
When you look at the results of the poll more closely, and analyze them using my Solidworks 6.0, you will be surprised by the results.
Mission Accomplished, Dawgz!
http://
frankkoughan.blogspot.com...complished.html
I do have to say that 56% is alarmingly low.
Tom Joad the other, great comment there!
And Dave in NYC, I would have to agree that '56% is alarmingly low'!
I do have to say that 56% is alarmingly low.
Dave in NYC
Indeed! Why isn't it 90% at the very least?
Still, remember how long it took "them" to figure out that there were no WMD and no "reconstituted" nuclear program and no links between Saddam and al-Qaeda?
For those of who knew it was all crap from the very first grave pronouncements about WMD and mushroom clouds and aluminum tubes and the most poisonous and deadly gases ever devised, it seemed like it took most Americans literally forever to finally get it!
On the bright side, though, most of the most reputable and respected pollsters -- Pew, Zogby, and even USA Today -- all reveal that a sizable majority of Americans now report that they no longer trust Bush either to "keep them safe" or in general terms.
They now know that Bush lied to them and rushed them into a catastrophic debacle in Iraq and that he has every intention of remaining stuck there no matter how many soldiers die or are horribly wounded or how many countless Iraqs die -- and all to protect his permanent military bases there and to control the oil.
People no longer even want to have a beer with Bush, so all bets are off!
Let's hope! 
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People no longer even want to have a beer with Bush, so all bets are off!
As I've said numerous times, only if HIS has the ground glass in it!
When you look at the results of the poll more closely, and analyze them using my Solidworks 6.0, you will be surprised by the results.
tbrosz
WTF?
Two thirds of Republicans think it's okay to have snooping without warrants. Republicans are anti-American and US Constitution. There is not other way to look at it.
prabhata
Well, they're stupid, too!
Terry C, Hates Bush!
Could it be that Republicans really like being "watched" and they are just looking forward to being which strip-searched? It's kinda' kinky...and right up their street, so to speak.
HATE BUSH, YES!
IMPEACH BUSH and CHENEY, ABSOLUTELY!
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I just read about this on Kos -- they were a little late posting it.
Finally, a poll to replace that wretched Rasmussen poll that completely missed the point. Unfortunately, since Rasmussen beat Ipsos by releasing their badly-worded and misleading poll, the GOP machine has been hammering away on the first poll for days.
The results of the 2nd poll, I think, show how the wingnutters' use of the 1st poll has turned what should be an American issue into a party-line issue.
Too bad we couldn't have had a better poll than Rasmussen's out first. If we had, I think this story might've gotten the attention it deserved.
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