I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
SHA-ZAMMMMMMMMMMM! Argh!
why isn't the fact that abramoff was the head of college republicans the suffix to his name? Shouldn't everyone say that everytime he is mentioned, be it on atrios, dailykos, or dean on tv? He was the head of college reupblicans turned lobbyist, not some non partisan hack... attach it to his identity.
Question: Do these morning shows ever fact-check Republicans after their disputed claims? If not, can we start expecting to see them do so?
And the growing irrelevance of the MSM continues apace... you're doing a heckuva job, brown nosers!
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Looks like Saturday morning thread overload has set in.
Question: Why does anyone watch these morning shows. They are the most insipid, factless, useless, well you get the picture, waste of time on this earth.
Disney/Viacom/General Electric infotainment wurl.
They want us to just eat cheetos and google britney.
Technically, the US press are a bunch of wankers.
"Today's invasion of Iran is sponsored by Disney."]
The decline will be televised.
ql, good question.
I have never been able to sit down for more than a minute or so to watch the morning shows.
Even when I was stuck at home with two broken ankles.
See Josh Marshall this morning; he linked to an analysis that shows Abramoff's clients' giving to Democrats went down after they became his clients.
The Corporate Owned News Media is PRAVDA!
Nothing more nothing less.
Technically, Matt Lauer is still a flaming pimp of the mainstream media.
Question: Why does anyone watch these morning shows. They are the most insipid, factless, useless, well you get the picture, waste of time on this earth.
Beats the hell out of me....Well, I guess there is some value in finding out just how the corporate propaganda machine is distorting the truth, but I prefer to have it filtered and synopsized for me by people like Atrios. Beyond that, I think it is pretty important that any person who considers him/herself liberal should stop tuning in to this crap. It is one of the few bad things in this world that in fact will go away if enough people ignore it.
Also note that the NY Times Poll left out any mention of the word "illegal" when referencing the wiretaps.
The issue of whether the wiretaps were actually authorized by Constitutional authority, is still a point of disagreement between scholars, but the administration's decision not to seek the necessary warrants is, as a matter of fact, illegal. So why wasn't that aspect included in the wording of the questions?
http://medianeedle.blogspot.com/
...uestioning.html
It is one of the few bad things in this world that in fact will go away if enough people ignore it.
blerb
I thought the same thing myself, once. Now I don't agree. If ignored - it will only get much worse!!
Re: Olbermann's smackdown of
Hayden bullshitting about the
Fourth Ammendment.
Why isn't it front page news?
The head of the NSA lied about
the Fourth Ammendment. Claiming
he was an expert on it.
Where's the liberal media?
When I was an editor at Army Times, I kept wanting to see each "battle" during the Iraqi invasion have a corporate sponsor.
One day I suggested to my boss that we decorate the newsroom in the style of a Victorian whore house. I think she thought I was kidding. Those gannett chain gangers have no sense of humor. Smart but not deep, know what I mean?
If Matt Lauer has ever shopped at a supermarket which has at some point sold a pint of milk to somebody guilty of having sex with a minor (as chance would suggest he has), would it be technically correct to say that "Matt Lauer frequents establishments catering to child molesters"?
Lauer is always "full of shit". frankly, he seems to derive the most glee from being so. he is repulsive slime.
Don't dismiss the MSM - they are a cannon. Remember - they VRWC army of the undead sup on their offal every night. And it's all aimed at us. They are coming for us. They understand the danger we represent to them far better than we understand the danger they represent to us.
Some soundtrack like the clarion trumpets from monday night football...
"This Battle of Falluja is brought to you by FORD. At FORD, we drive on!" and some such.
Is there an appropriate gripe line for the Post and for the Today Show? I wrote them both but will be very happy to write or call them again.
If we could send, oh, twenty or thirty thousand angry letters to these people on a moment's notice, I think we'd see some corrections.
Let's overflow their ability to keep up, as we did before. Remember: polite, firm, no unnecessary obscenity, but call them on their lies. Repeatedly.
Don't let them get away with it.
Not. One. Damn. Lie.
What do these people not understand?
Why would Abramoff hand a check to his enemy? GET REAL!
Such statements are also implicitly bigoted against Native Americans
Don't dismiss the MSM - they are a cannon. Remember - they VRWC army of the undead sup on their offal every night. And it's all aimed at us. They are coming for us. They understand the danger we represent to them far better than we understand the danger they represent to us.
reallygonecat
Yes!!!
Look over there! It's the space shuttle crashing 20 years ago!
And why we're talking accountability. Why isn't the media all over the fact that the lead prosecutor in the Alito case has been appointed a federal judgeship and so will be stepping down from the investigation. And guess who gets to name the new lead. Why our friend Gonzelez, who the fuck else. Motherfuckers.
Now I don't agree. If ignored - it will only get much worse!!
portia
Isn't television a ratings-driven medium? IF nobody watches, their advertizers won't pay their bills.
I think those photos of Bush and Abramoff could be of more use to us if they never see the light of day. Face it, they probably only show the usual receiving-line handshakes (I doubt that there would have been a photographer present for any of the real meetings). But properly played up, they could be made out to be far more damning than they really are. If we only had a prominent Democrat who was willing to get on the issue ("there are photos of the President consulting with a convicted felon!")they could be potent tools. I know a photograph is worth way more than a thousand words, but if we don't have them, yet know they exist, we should still use them.
A skillful strategist could play the whole thing out for a week or two, eventually forcing the White House to release the photos to quell the furor, and then imply that there must be something more to hide because the White House stonewalled for so long.
I just don't think we have any skillful strategists.
As RonK on Next Hurrah points out, it is the case that in some cases tribes increased their donations to both parties when Abramoff took over. He argues correctly that we have to be careful not to be Rathered on this.
But in terms of what is technically correct, it is safe to say that the proportion of giving to Democrats almost always went down, and that Abramoff *redirected* donations from Democrats and to Republicans.
My metaphor on this is: if I turn up the volume, it increases both the bass and treble, but it would still be misleading to say I "turned up the bass."
Perhaps technically correct, but misleading, just as Blitzer and Lauer's response to Dean have been. Buffoons like RonK still want to say this shows he directed money to Democrats, but this misses the forest for the trees: as a K Streeter, everything he did was to promote one-party rule, and that's why the proportion to Democrats almost always went down.
That's not an apology. Lauer should have said "Katie Couric was wrong"
Portia:
An item in proof is Alito's refusal to be frank about Roe v. Wade. Ginzburg came right out and said she agrees with a woman's right to choose, and was confirmed by a Republican-majority senate.
The Republicans know they're in the minority on a lot of issues, and that fact isn't, indeed mustn't be, acknowledged. That was Molly Ivins' point: if a firm majority of Americans in every poll agree with national health insurance and disagree with the Iraq War and the proposition that Bush is leading an ethical administration, well, why not fight 'em? What's to lose?
Technically, Matt Lauer is a "human being". In actuality, he's a walking anus.
That Miz Katie sure does have the perkiest colon I've ever seen.
Abramoff is on record, quoted,
as saying his goal was to
destroy the Democratic party.
Why are we even arguing about this
shit?
Don't dismiss the MSM - they are a cannon. Remember - they VRWC army of the undead sup on their offal every night. And it's all aimed at us. They are coming for us. They understand the danger we represent to them far better than we understand the danger they represent to us.
reallygonecat
Yes!!!
portia
Butttttt... having run with that crowd I know them and they are not at all scary. the MSM comprises individual weenies and weenetes who individually have no backbone. Separate them from each other and squash. They talk tough but are horrified of being called on real issues of truth.
But what horrifies them even more is when their coverage creates a ruckus that reverberates up to their advertisers.
It's all about the money. I know this sounds obvious, but that fact is the key to turning them back upon themselves.
The Today show has been unwatchable for years and years.
I suppose it's "technically correct" to assert that Lauer and Couric are journalists.
Exact same implication.
It isn't hard to dump on Katie, but whe may have actually saved lives with her colonoscopy shtick. She's been guilty of far worse.
Also note that the NY Times Poll left out any mention of the word "illegal" when referencing the wiretaps.
This is one, like the 'bipartisan' Abramoff thing, that we'll have to keep hammering away on.
Keep up the noise. It will stick eventually.
Matt Lauer = Michael Bolton.
To be TECHNICALLY correct we should have an INDPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
Hmm...I guess I should've saved my blogwhore for this thread.
Anyway, the only time the msm pushes the WH even a little bit is when the WH refuses to give them even a little info. And the push back is so weak as to be negligible.
Isn't television a ratings-driven medium? IF nobody watches, their advertizers won't pay their bills.
blerb
We should go after the advertisers, too. Cable news has horrible ratings. They want to keep the Rs in ppower - THAT helps the bottom line.
It isn't hard to dump on Katie, but whe may have actually saved lives with her colonoscopy shtick.
Hmmmmm.....
Nah, too easy.
Steve, Steve, you're trying to make sense. Next you'll be telling me that there have been great American rock bands or something...
you fear them, they have won. they are opportunists, growling beasts who can be distracted with a sausage tossed across the yard.
Really. Trust me: they suck and care only about getting paid, keeping their mortgages in the Virginia burbs.
Has anyone figured out what exactly Chimpy's hands are doing on the cover of Fred Barnes' book?
I already blogwhored this point but implicit in this WHOLE point of "both did it" is this...
NATIVE AMERICAN MONEY IS MORE TAINTED THAN OTHER MONEY
And that's Bigoted!
Has anyone figured out what exactly Chimpy's hands are doing on the cover of Fred Barnes' book?
P O'Neill
Pissing on the Constitution?
Atrios,
A tip of the hat to you.(Again) Truth be known I am so tired of the endless lies and promotion of the Bushits that I avoid it at nearly all costs. I cannot even find it in my heart to watch television anymore for the grievous wounding of the truth that occurs moment to moment. Yet, you maintain the fight and that is a good thing.
I guess maybe the hopelessness is the emotion they are trying to foster. Truth is not something to be spun: yet it is. Lies will be found out: if anyone in the media gave a shit about them.
Thanks again, you are a stalwart warrior for the truth.
Anybody else wonder why Atrios chose e as his incorrect sum of 2 and 2?
Matt Lauer with KC and her Sunshine Band are technically whores.
It isn't hard to dump on Katie, but whe may have actually saved lives with her
colonoscopy shtick. She's been guilty of far worse.
ProfWombat | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:14 am | #
I know people who absolutely hate
her for that.
I don't get it...I think it was
sort of brave and a good thing to
do.
Not that I'm excusing everything
else she does, but that particular
move was commendable. IMHO.
I reckon it's technically correct, that if you've seen one colon, then you've seen 'em all.
Here's an analogy that might work.
You're driving down a street in your home town, and you see a couple of policemen hustling a guy out of a house.
the thing is, the policemen aren't wearing their badges, and they're hustling the guy into an unmarked vehicle.
Now, it being your home town, you recognize the officers. Officers Murphy and Murgatroyd, no doubt about it. They're perfectly entitled to take someone out of their house in handcuffs.
So are you going to say, "Well, everything must be on the up and up because they're the police!" and think no more about it?
Hell no!
You think, "Why the fuck are they dragging a guy out of the house with their badges off and into an unmarked car? What the hell is going on here?"
And you think how much do I really know about Murphy and Murgatroyd?
Because---
--because it smells. It smells reall bad.
Base of natural logs. Makes sense to me...
Has anyone figured out what exactly Chimpy's hands are doing on the cover of Fred Barnes' book?
P O'Neill
Undoubtedly spelling his name wrong.
OT, as always, of course Atrios in on point:
I badly injured myself last night, leaving my whole face bloody--chin, forehead (especially), left eyebrow, nose in 3 places. I look like a car crash victim, though it was only my bedframe and carpet.
Showering didn't help. What might? I'm eating carrots, supersticially.
Matt Lauer = Michael Bolton.
steve simels
no talent ass clown.
Showering didn't help. What might? I'm eating carrots, supersticially.
Draco | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:18 am | #
Good lord...feel better.
The only use for the Democratic Party these days is to provide cover for the corruption of the Republicans.
That "hotie" matt lauer and "America's sweetheart" katie couric should be relegated to the dustbin of history. Instead the "hotie" and "America's sweetheart" are very well paid whores for their gop friendly corporation.
Remember when everybodys favorite uncle, charlie gibson of GMA, used his show to attack Kerry with gop talking points?
We ignore them at our peril.
A thoughtful and brilliant journalist like Matt Lauer comes only once in a generation, if at all. You guys can slime him all you want, but the people at large like him for his attention to detail and the truth. We need a Lauer more than a politician like Dean. Politicians are dime a dozen.
Draco,
Hope you are feeling better and the injuries aren't too bad.
Now, if I were you I'd lay off the Bush impressions for a while. 
Next you'll be telling me that there
have been great American rock bands or something...
ProfWombat | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:15 am | #
Hah!!!!!
Hell no!
You think, "Why the fuck are they dragging a guy out of the house with their badges off and into an unmarked car? What the hell is going on here?"
And you think how much do I really know about Murphy and Murgatroyd?
Because---
--because it smells. It smells reall bad.
pbg
Smells like a 400-yard head shot to most of the hunters across the country. Two hundred million firearms in this country. I'm just sayin'.
Draco, sounds like my accident. Watch for the neck pain tomorrow or the day after. Hope you feel better soon.
I've said it before and now again:
Rags like the National Enquirer are held at a higher plane for truth in reporting than our MSM. They get sued if they lie.
steve simels--You don't quite offer me a feel-good pill, but it;s good to know you even care. Thanks
Dragged away? Showing No badges? Showing No warrants? No problem. Self-defense rules apply.
It is about time someone pointed out the racism involved with Abramoff media coverage. It seems like it is the Naive Indian stereotype again ` those Indians are sure cute, but they just can't deal with civilized laws and steal any chance they get so we gotta keep 'em on the res.
Imagine if this scandal involved African-Americans and was covered by the press in this manner. And then all of the congressional representatives who took money from black groups gave it back nbased on the fact they were black groups.
Here is what has happened - the left is scared of being accused of playing the "race card". Look, even Atrios has meticulously avoided the racial issue even though it is the elephant in the livingroom.
You don't quite offer me a feel-good pill, but it;s good to know
you even care. Thanks
Draco | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:24 am | #
If I could offer something more
practical, believe me I would.
DWD--I doubt your accident looks so bad and bloody. I was horrified after my shower how bad I still looked
the problem is more the type of dem leaders that we have than the whoredom where the russerts and the lauers live.
in last week's MTP, obama was so equivocal in his statements ('mone is a bipartisan problem') that one could almost forgive russert for thinking that he can get away by saying anything against the deams.
such weak performances by the dem leaders are what we should focus on.
Last thought for the day (because i have to get going):
All these actions - by Bushco, the GOP, lobbyists, the MSM, whoever - they are all directed at the people who scare them - us. That is the more liberal-thinking first, then any of the Great Unwashed Masses so foriegn to their elite.
Fear is not rational. You cannot appease fear. Fear will take actions to be relieved no matter how silly or unlikely the basis of the fear.
These manipulators, unchecked, WILL persist until you are disenfranchised, dispossessed, marginalized, rendered serf or slave or fodder to the ovens. That is the pattern of history.
But the fearful, opposed, can be made afraid enough to NOT act. Be the nightmare. Fight back.
Even as the kid who fights back against the school bully ends up no more beaten, and lives happier with himself, your opposition is.
We may lose Alito. We are likely to lose many times in the next years, swimming against the tides of declining empire.
But history also says that it has always been better to be warrior than serf. "Cry Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war!"
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Troutski
See above, I agree totally.
NBC and WaPo could just freakin explain what they mean, instead of just deliberately obscuring the truth. If you asked most people on the street they wouldn't even know wtf Abramoff did or why he's tainted, and what it actually means that he gave money, cuz everyone gives money, right?
In NBC's case I think it's clear they have an agenda. A deliberate agenda to avoid making BushCo look bad, at any expense. They have zero credibility left, if they ever had any.
There's no reason, especially in print, that someone can't just explore in detail what exactly is going on here in a way that people understand it.. without all the he said/she said crap..
Oh, no wait that would could require journalizing!
Republicans. The American Hezbollah.
A good op-ed in the NYT points out that Chimpy created the Iran crisis by calling for a boycott of the Iranian presidential election last year:
The rise of Mr. Ahmadinejad, and the threat he poses to the stability of a volatile region, demonstrates that promoting apathy in a semi-democratic system can only strengthen the radical anti-democracy forces. And it raises a question as to whether that is what hawks in Washington actually wanted.
That was Molly Ivins' point: if a firm majority of Americans in every poll agree with national health insurance and disagree with the Iraq War and the proposition that Bush is leading an ethical administration, well, why not fight 'em? What's to lose?
ProfWombat
brilliant point!! And - Americans are looking for leadership - that means that Dems need to take up these issues and fight like hell for them - that's leadership!
The point that Lauer seems to miss is that if Dean was "technically correct" in saying that no Democrats received money from Abramoff, then when Couric said that Democrats received money from Abramoff she was "technically incorrect", or, put another way, "technically lying".
The only use for the Democratic Party these days is to provide cover for the
corruption of the Republicans.
pk | Email | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 11:20 am | #
True, but it sort of behooves
you to suggest a solution.
Don't ya think?
Since George W. Bush has an anus and walks more-or-less upright, it is technically correct that he is a walking asshole.
i've discussed the racial issue before
Republicans. The American Hezbollah.
Wrong. Hezbollah clearly cares about the Lebanese shi'ites it was formed to defend against Irraeli occupation. The Republican party gives a shit about nobody besides a tiny elite.
Thanks steve simels for anything--I still remember reading you in the 70s and how you informed my musical vocabulary--and I'm sure many others who've never had the chance to thank you
A thoughtful and brilliant journalist like Matt Lauer comes only once in a generation, if at all. You guys can slime him all you want, but the people at large like him for his attention to detail and the truth. We need a Lauer more than a politician like Dean. Politicians are dime a dozen.
american manhood
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Abramoff did indeed give money to both parties.The Republican Party and the Mugwump Party.
Draco - try some vitamin E cream. It's supposed to help healing.
I'm sure many others who've
never had the chance to thank you
Draco | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:30 am | #
Oish.
It's so much fun to be an aging
has-been.
The problem isn't Atrios mentioning the race issue, he's right he's mentioned it before.
It's the failure of the Democratic Leaders to shove it down the media's throat and put these fuckers off balance for once.
But history also says that it has always been better to be warrior than serf. "Cry Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war!"
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Cynicus
Hear! Hear!
BTW:
Fuck Matt Lauer.
Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.
If you know what I mean.
i've discussed the racial issue before
Obviously not with enough force then since I do frequent here more than I frquent real life and I sure can't recall anything. But then again I am the average moron.
Look A, the stereotypes that created the res system were :
Indians = Savages
Indians = Naive cute children who just can't understand the civilized rules.
All Native Americans are being treated as the same by the press.
These media whores are racist plain and simple. Call 'em on it.
HUZZAH!
I don't watch the morning news. I read my favorite blogs and then I go to work. This way I get everything I need to know.
It's so much fun to be an aging
has-been.
steve simels
Not to worry. I never heard of you til I met you here. So for me, you're still on the ascendancy. Smooch.
Anybody else wonder why Atrios chose e as his incorrect sum of 2 and 2?
blerb | 01.28.06 - 11:17 am | #
Hmmmm.
He did once link to (and therefore 'own' [but not in the sense of 'pwzn']) a page about '1 + e^(2.pi.i) = 0' being the greatest, bestest ever mathematical equation.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
ql in ny:
Thanks, babe!
Smooch right back at ya!!!!
A thoughtful and brilliant journalist like Matt Lauer comes only once in a generation, if at all. You guys can slime him all you want, but the people at large like him for his attention to detail and the truth.
This holds true until the exact instant that he dares to even mildly question anything Bush does. At which point he becomes a tool of the liberal media. And he knows this full well.
morning shows cause brain damage.
Draco,
You might also consider taking a couple of OTC ibuprophen tablets to keep the inflammation down in any muscles you bruised or stretched.
If anything's swollen, ice might help as well.
Finally, as your lawyer, I recommend you take it easy all day.
morning shows cause brain damage.
Mostly from banging your head against the wall hoping the "pain" will stop.
Mostly.
Matt 'Shinehead' Lauer - technically full of shit.
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did katie's make up crack?
has this dour and humorless woman ever said anything gracious in her life? she should host masterpiece theatre before the news. what a foul spirited, distasteful sack of puke.
The problem isn't Atrios mentioning the race issue, he's right he's mentioned it before.
It's the failure of the Democratic Leaders to shove it down the media's throat and put these fuckers off balance for once.
Attaturk
Goddamned right. It took those asholes about 20 seconds to accuse us of being anti-Italian when we criticized Scalito.
Thanks to anyone who's tried to stop my bleeding. It's a real pain, and a result of near-blindness, not quite blindness, and I've never adjusted
Abramoff directed his new indian tribe clients to give less to the Democrats than they had been giving in the past and give that money - and more - to the Republicans.
its not rocket science, but apparantly it has stumped the great minds in the NBC News Division.
So when Lauer calls something "technically correct" in a way which implies it's somehow misleading he's full of shit.
==
Well, yeah.
Good morning. I am here to reoprt that Knob Creek packs quite the next-day headache.
smarty, out of doobies?
I am here to reoprt that Knob Creek packs quite the next-day
headache.
mena | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:44 am | #
I'm not quite sure what that means.
Is that a wine reference?
Oh, and steve simels, you're too modest--You should Shake Out! like Wilson Pieckett
What was the name of the Democratic congressman who was smeared for taking money from the Cherokees, when he actualy is a member of the Cherokee tribe?
Seems like repeating that one a few times when lil' Katie gets up to her tricks ought to be effective.
Atrios - you should made your post stronger, starting off with prospect link instead of ending with it.
American Prospect hired a professional agency specializing in political contributions and shared their findings.
From Prospect link:
The analysis shows:
# in total, the donations of Abramoff’s tribal clients to Democrats dropped by nine percent after they hired him, while their donations to Republicans more than doubled, increasing by 135 percent after they signed him up;
# five out of seven of Abramoff’s tribal clients vastly favored Republican candidates over Democratic ones;
# four of the seven began giving substantially more to Republicans than Democrats after he took them on;
# Abramoff’s clients gave well over twice as much to Republicans than Democrats, while tribes not affiliated with Abramoff gave well over twice as much to Democrats than the GOP -- exactly the reverse pattern.
“It’s very hard to see the donations of Abramoff’s clients as a bipartisan greasing of the wheels,” Morris, the firm’s founder and a former investigations editor at the Los Angeles Times, told The Prospect.
This should debunk wapo/NBC/Rove line once for all.
ou should Shake Out! like Wilson
Pieckett
Draco | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:46 am | #
Poor bastard just died.
I hope that's not what you're
suggesting for me.
steve simels - 'Tis better to be a has been than a never was.
Draco - Aloe and Vitamin E, cold compresses, and ibuprofen for the swelling. A shot of whiskey wouldn't hurt either.
"When I think of people who come to this country from other countries - they speak Italian. Hardest working people, they're extremely entrepreneurial if it's just owning a flower shop, it's owning a small business-a bodega-right?
Italians come to this country to start business. The hardest working people in the United States are people who just got here from Italy-the first day they get here. Everybody knows they don't want a big social democracy. They want free enterprise and entrepreneurialism don't they?" /makeup call
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should made -> should have made
Lauer is a pimp; Katie is his whore.
Caring 'bout serious stuff is just hard work.
Serious News At Risk
Aaron Brown
Former CNN 'NewsNight' anchor Aaron Brown said important issues, such as the war in Iraq, are being clouded over by 'mud-wrestling' that skirts substance. Brown spoke Tuesday at The Society of the Four Arts.
The anchorman whose boss once characterized him as ice compared with his successor's fire was anything but chilly in the impassioned speech he delivered Tuesday at The Society of the Four Arts.
"Truth no longer matters in the context of politics and, sadly, in the context of cable news," said Aaron Brown, whose four-year period as anchor of CNN's NewsNight ended in November, when network executives gave his job to Anderson Cooper in a bid to push the show's ratings closer to front-runner Fox News.
He's shocked "by how unkind our world has become," he said. E-mail and talk radio appear to have given people the license to say anything, regardless of how cruel or false it may be, he said.
Bourbon, steve. Ouch.
Everybody knows they don't want a big social democracy. They want free
enterprise and entrepreneurialism don't they?" /makeup call
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QuentinCompson | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 11:49 am | #
Tweety.
Heard him say that the other day.
What a shithead.
page about '1 + e^(2.pi.i) = 0' being the greatest, bestest ever mathematical equation.
I guess he's a Feynmann fan, then, since that whas what he said about Euler's equation.....
Goddamned right. It took those asholes about 20 seconds to accuse us of being anti-Italian when we criticized Scalito.
Doc | 01.28.06 - 11:41 am | #
The question is, is the Republican meme that "Indian money is dirty money" or is it only "money from Indians who hired Abramoff as a lobbyist is dirty money". The first is racist (unless further qualified as, say, "Indian money from gambling is dirty money" in which case Indian money is no different from Vegas money), the second not.
Lauer is a pimp; Katie is his whore.
NBC is the pimp; Matt and Katie are the whores. Cheap whores, at that.
arnica cream is great for bruising.
How stupid!
And fundies BELIEVE this crap!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&
type=printable
Nothing against decent, hardworking whores, of course.
Oh, and Draco, witch hazel will help with the bruising, also.
matt lauer is cute, but not very bright. he really should do gay porn.
Technically correct? Sorry, shoe belongs on the other foot. I've been peddling this analogy elsewhere, so I might as well do it here. Apologies if you've seen it before.
Any baseball fans on Eschaton? How about a sports trivia question?
Which group of brothers has the most career home runs in Major League Baseball history?
A. The DiMaggios
B. The Boones
C. The Alous
D. None of the above
Correct answer is D. The winner is the Aarons - Hank with 755 and his late brother Tommie had 13.
Of course, Hank alone had more than any of these groups of brothers. Tommie's contribution was negligible.
Thus, even if the Post can produce some napkin where Abramoff wrote the name of some Democrat that his tribal client was going to donate to anyway (and after all this time, even that looks unlikely), at worst, that would make the "bipartisan" tag on this scandal "technically correct" in Lauer's apt phrase.
The Post's PERSISTENCE in pushing the bipartisan angle is as "technically correct" as would be a sports fan who said you should never mention Hank Aaron without also mentioning Tommie.
I would think that working near Hannity, O'Reilly and the rest of those fascists would be toxic:
Employees Sue Over Alleged Mold
Faux News
Two Fox News employees have filed a lawsuit alleging they were sickened by toxic molds and pesticides in a building where some of the network's top shows are produced.
The lawsuit, filed Thursday in Supreme Court in Manhattan, alleges the employees fell ill in the building where "The O'Reilly Factor" and "At Large with Geraldo Rivera" are produced, as well as "Hannity and Colmes" and "Dayside." It seeks unspecified damages from Fox News and the building's management company.
Fox News spokeswoman Irena Briganti said the federal Occupational, Safety and Health Administration had declined to investigate, and an onsite probe by the state's Department of Environmental Conservation had "fully resolved" the matter.
Blerb--I'm not sure why Atrios incorrectly stated that equation, but in any event, he's closer than any wingnut will ever be. Call it an asymptotic value.
Draco - bleeding? What happened?
OT - Wesley Clark
http://www.iavapac.org/
As you may know, there is something very wrong in Washington, DC these days. Political corruption scandals are distracting our leaders from tending to the business of state. Deficits are up, job cuts are being announced weekly and the prospect for peace in Iraq seems to be slipping further away, rather than getting closer to a reality..
There is good news! Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) PAC has launched, with great anticipation and enthusiasm throughout the political world. This is the start of a political movement to empower the people who pay the price for bad decisions in Washington: Our combat veterans. Specifically, our unique mission is to promote veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan wars who are running for Congress this year.
etc.
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Ride to the sound of the guns!
-
mena:
You're a bourbon drinker?
That's so wonderfully Raymond
Chandler/film noir romantic.
Suddenly I'm in love.
Terry C--I likes me some Mark Morford.
Goddamned right. It took those asholes about 20 seconds to accuse us of being anti-Italian when we criticized Scalito.
Doc
I have Italian-American friends (including the proprietor of a local pizza place) who hates Scalito.
Are they anti-Italian, too?
OT-
the View From N.J.
Both of New Jersey's U.S. senators said yesterday that it was premature to support the Kennedy-Kerry call for a filibuster, because they had not announced their intentions on the vote for Samuel A. Alito Jr.'s nomination.
Matthew Miller, a spokesman forSen. Robert Menendez, said the country's newest senator planned to announce his intentions on voting for or against Alito, a fellow New Jerseyan, in a floor speech Monday.
Sen. Frank Lautenberg's spokesman, Alex Formuzis, expressed doubt that a filibuster would materialize. "As far as we know," he said, "there will be a vote for cloture on Monday, and that it will pass, and the Senate will move to vote on the nomination of Mr. Alito on Tuesday."
Maybe if the old fuck would join in and support a NO vote it might "materialize". I would think that two home state senators standing up and saying NO might help that cause.
Monday morning these two need to be hammered. The mailbox of all Lautenberg's offices are currently full.
Terry C--I likes me some Mark Morford.
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere
I just love how those fundie assholes think someone can be "turned" gay.
Just like that!
Thanks, guys.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6012701505.html
money from Indians who hired Abramoff as a lobbyist is dirty money"
That one's probably not racist, but it is no more correct than the first one. It's certainly possible that any client of Abramoff would have had a knowledge of what he was doing with their money, but in the case of the Indians, it seems that they were actually cheated. There may well be other abramoff clients who got bilked as well.
why isn't the fact that abramoff was the head of college republicans the suffix to his name? Shouldn't everyone say that everytime he is mentioned, be it on atrios, dailykos, or dean on tv? He was the head of college reupblicans turned lobbyist, not some non partisan hack... attach it to his identity.
sam
The College Repukes need to spend more time with their studies.
The reason they're Repukes is because they're so stupid and ignorant.
OT: Soldiers uneasy about Afghan duty
Rank-and-file soldiers have been talking about their unease at the prospect of being deployed to Afghanistan later this year.
Members of the unofficial but popular Army Rumour Service website have been responding to the announcement an extra 3,300 British soldiers are being sent to help with Nato's International Security Assistance Force [Isaf] peace-keeping duties.
Thanks, guys.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...6012701505.html
Algonquin J. Calhoun
Don't click on the trolls' links.
I never do.
Especially when the troll has a racist name like AJC.
That's so wonderfully Raymond
Chandler/film noir romantic.
===
Bless your romantic heart! My headache is transformed into the burden of cool, and I'm Lauren Bacall.
I just love how those fundie assholes think someone can be "turned" gay.
Just like that!
Terry C, Coldplayer | 01.28.06 - 11:55 am | #
I was straight for 58 years until
I saw BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.
Now I'm screamingly gay.
Really....if incog shows up,
I'll so do him it's not even
funny.
matt lauer is cute, but not very bright. he really should do gay porn.
evangenital
Matt Lauer is a waste of space.
I've never considered himbos attractive.
I'm Lauren Bacall.
mena
She STILL looks great.
terry c, come on. you know you would enjoy him for an hour or so.
He's shocked "by how unkind our world has become," he said. E-mail and talk radio appear to have given people the license to say anything, regardless of how cruel or false it may be, he said.
Terry C, Coldplayer
Cooper got the job 'cause he sobbed on TV. Sobbing didn't help the displaced citizens of NOLA, but that's the new substitute for actually doing something about a problem.
haing a bit of a meh day at the moment.
got nothing to do.
done my laundry and i even hoovered my room.
roll on lectures!!!! heh
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what a foul spirited, distasteful sack of puke.
chris from boca
Well, I wouldn't go that far. The problem is she fancies herself a journalist. I remember when she was brought in to replace Jane Pauly, who they felt was getting too old at 35 or something. Anyway, she was all of 25 at the time. She really had no prior hard journalistic credentials. She was also married to John Cazale and nursed him through his final illness. And proceeded to rais her kis alone. He died of colon cancer and she went on a kind of crusade to make people aware of it. I actually watched her colonoscopy (sp?). As long as she stays with the fluff stuff, she aint so bad. But she aint a jounalist.
When I heard that Washington State had passed gay rights legislation, it turned me gay. I returned to my normal state of irritability soon after.
i wonder how it feels to desire attention for and respect for your "brilliance", but the only ones who show up are brain dead soccer moms from bumfuck because their only desire is to wave hysterically at the camera and see hillary duff perform?? i guess i will have to ask katie and matt.
we need to have protests on these morning shows. dress up like bumfucks and infiltrate the audience, then disrupt their world.
I'm Lauren Bacall.
mena
She STILL looks great.
Terry C, Coldplayer | 01.28.06 - 11:59 am | #
I love her.
Why?
Because -- and this is true -- she
has a rule: She always sleeps with
the leading man.
I think that's so cool.
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Manowar
They're so cute when they first discover Copy and Paste.
She was also married to John Cazale and nursed him through his final illness.
Really? Wow.
So right!
http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item...resident_jonah/
Hi Mena.
Oh dear, a couple of Advil might help.
OT: Iran to fire missiles if attacked
Iran would launch medium-range missiles if attacked, a military leader said, accusing Britain and the United States of arming rebels as international pressure mounts on Tehran over its nuclear plans.
Yahya Rahim Safavi, commander in chief of the Revolutionary Guard, told state television on Saturday: "If we come under a military attack, we will respond with our very effective missile defence."
Moonbootica, Die Walküre
Just wanted to let you know that while someone yesterday was busting your chops for posting different news posts, I appreciate them. I read things you post that I never would go looking around for on my own.
Abramoff referred to tribal members as “trogdolytes” and “morons”.
Report that Matt and KC, please.
I've posted this analogy several times over at firedoglake. First time here:
Let me try to explain it in a way that the media can easilty understand it. Let's pretend that, instead of money, Jack Abramoff was giving out blowjobs. It would be fair to say that Abramoff gave blowjobs to a lot of Republicans. He did not, as far as we know, give blowjobs to any Democrats. As for Abramoff's clients, these are people who were GIVING Abramoff blowjobs, not receiving them from him. While it is true that some of the people who gave Abramoff blowjobs also gave blowjobs to some Democrats, I've seen no evidence that Abramoff was truly directing his clients to give blowjobs to Democrats. In fact, it looks like he was telling them to give the Democrats fewer blowjobs than they had given them in previous years. In any case, it's a hell of a lot different than getting blowjobs from Abramoff himself. Questions?
footloose its something to do heh!
money from Indians who hired Abramoff as a lobbyist is dirty money"
That one's probably not racist, but it is no more correct than the first one.
Yes, well, the issue was about racism, not about correctness. I do not warrant the correctness of any Republican meme.
It's certainly possible that any client of Abramoff would have had a knowledge of what he was doing with their money, but in the case of the Indians, it seems that they were actually cheated.
It also seems that they might have realized that they were paying Abramoff about four times the going rate too. Perhaps one just doesn't question success too closely.
There may well be other abramoff clients who got bilked as well.
This you can probably count on.
Abramoff referred to tribal members as “trogdolytes” and “morons”.
How typically Repukelican!
Wowsers, I actually now have a modicum of respect for Katie Couric. Too bad she's such a corporate ho.
In one email released by the Senate committee, Abramoff wrote to Scanlon, “I have to meet with the monkeys from the Choctaw tribal counsel.”
Please report that KC and Matt
She was also married to John
Cazale and nursed him through his final illness. And proceeded to rais her kis
alone. He died of colon cancer and she went on a kind of crusade to make
people aware of it. I actually watched her colonoscopy (sp?). As long as she
stays with the fluff stuff, she aint so bad. But she aint a jounalist.
ql in ny | 01.28.06 - 12:00 pm | #
Katie Couric?
I'm almost positive you're
thinking of Meryl Streep vis a
vis John Cazale.
Let me once again repeat my comment that trolls remind me of the toddlers who get their jollies out of yelling "shit" in public and having all of the adults stare at them.
"Moonbootica, Die Walküre
Just wanted to let you know that while someone yesterday was busting your chops for posting different news posts, I appreciate them. I read things you post that I never would go looking around for on my own."
TRUE! Breaks up the junk with the real stuff.
Moonbootica, I second footloose in appreciation of your postings. Many times you find something that I would probably never have seen otherwise and that is very interesting. Please don't stop.
Spin Atrios! Spin! The liberals are never at fault! Spin! Spin harder! Spin faster! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DUNCAN! YOU DO IT SOOOOO GOOD.
Manowar
They're so cute when they first discover Copy and Paste.
Dr. Wu
Real brave when they can do that from the anonymity of their momma's basement.
THAT one is a real racist fuck.
Fux news finance show just now ... one of the loon wants to abolish the SEC ...
Report that Matt and KC, please.
Troutski
But our corporate masters told us that Abramoff is one of the good guys! And to help prop him up the way we're doing with Chimpy! Waaaaaah!
She always sleeps with
the leading man.
==
Seriously? What a dame.
QL - Oh, I'll live. I'll be meeting Tena today, if our watches synchronize properly. The headache is small potatoes.
Moon - feel free to come and hoover over here.
Exactly. Lauer's phrase "technically correct" shone like a red light when I first read it, too. You could shove their face right in the pile of shit that the GOP has dropped on the doorstep of America and they'll still insist that it isn't shit.
Steve is correct.
Respect gone.
"And what it has done is it created sort of a backlash in Congress, where now a lot of our members are running pell-mell away from Indian tribes, which denies them the right that everybody else has, which is to have a voice in their own future through the political process..."
BEN NIGHTHORSE CAMPBELL
Hmmm ... congressional representatives refusing to deal with American citizens because of RACE.
I challenge any troll to show me where ANY of us have ever said that "liberals are never at fault."
Spin Atrios! Spin! The liberals are never at fault! Spin! Spin harder! Spin faster!
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DUNCAN! YOU DO IT SOOOOO GOOD.
illuminized freemason | 01.28.06 - 12:06 pm | #
Hi Gordo!!!!!
"Truth no longer matters in the context of politics and, sadly, in the context of cable news," said Aaron Brown,
Damn right. What matters is good television. And explaining the ins and outs of Bush's medicare plan is boring. Bad television. Explaining the possible consequences of a war in Iraq is boring. It's much more exciting to show the bombs falling and our brave reporters racing across the desert. The media is a cesspool. My only cause for hope is that maybe, maybe people will start calling them and their sponsors on this crap. And by people I mean us, not politicians. It's clear by now the won't stand up and be as forceful as they need to.
illuminized freemason
Well, that's at least a unique troll name.
Cooper got the job 'cause he sobbed on TV. Sobbing didn't help the displaced citizens of NOLA, but that's the new substitute for actually doing something about a problem.
Lime Rickey
I was actually shocked by that. Journalists are not supposed to become a part of the story.
She always sleeps with
the leading man.
==
Seriously? What a dame.
Seriously.
She's famous for it.
Just ask Anthony Franciosa.
That lucky bastard.
OT: Mongolia names new cabinet
ULAN BATOR (Reuters) - Mongolia named all but one of the members of a new cabinet during a pre-dawn vote on Saturday, offering a short-term solution to a crisis prompted when parliament ousted a coalition government this month.
The new cabinet formed by the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party (MPRP), which ran Mongolia as a Soviet satellite for much of the 20th century, includes three dissident members of the Democratic Party and representatives from three smaller parties.
I challenge any troll to show me where ANY of us have ever said that "liberals are never at fault."
Terry C, Coldplayer
Well the fact that Duncan either completely ignores liberal wrongdoing or makes excuses for it(a la this post) speaks for itself.
Okay, I'm done for now. An illuminated freemason just walked in the door.
see ya Tomorrow...after Face the Preznit show.
i wish that nbc would do an on-air examination of matt lauer's prostate.
i would definitely tune in for that.
Dean is still a moron however.
Spin Atrios! Spin! The liberals are never at fault! Spin! Spin harder! Spin faster! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DUNCAN! YOU DO IT SOOOOO GOOD.
illuminized freemason
In the good old days, every once in a while a troll would come on here with something approximating an argument. I think it's a good sign that this is about the best they can come up with anymore. Apparently the criminal behavior of Chimpy & Co. has exceed the ability of amateurs to apologize for it--it's all in the hands of the professional apologists in the media now.
the media loves itself most of all.
Yesterday afternoon, upon reading on another Atrios thread that Lauer regurgitated the Rove-instigated lie that the Democrats are also caught up in the Abramoff scandal, I followed the advice of another poster and sent a fiery email to The Today Show demanding Lauer's firing (and Couric's as well).
Don't be so hard on little Mattie. If he hadn't lied about the Democrats, Bush might have cancelled their next golf.
If I lived in NYC, the temptation to "freeway blog" during their outdoor filming would be immense. Borrow somebody's cute kid.
poor trolls, that is all they have left, the everybody does it line. is that all you have to cling to?? i understand honey, it is all that is keeping your manhood from being totally decimated. you really should work on yourself, pathetic troll.
It was....interesting when Katie had her colon illuminized on teevee.
Let me once again repeat my comment that trolls remind me of the toddlers who get their jollies out of yelling "shit" in public and having all of the adults stare at them.
Doc
Toddlers, at least, grow up.
how does it fell to be a willing dupe???
From the WaPo, via kos:
"The bloggers and online donors represent an important resource for the party, but they are not representative of the majority you need to win elections," said Steve Elmendorf, a Democratic lobbyist who advised Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign.
Hey, with a track record like that guy's, it's easy to see that we need to really be listening to his advice!
feel the freedom!
Fatah gunmen storm parliament
Fatah gunmen stormed Palestinian parliament buildings in Ramallah today and demanded the party leadership resign following a crushing election defeat by Hamas.
"No partnership with Hamas," gunmen chanted as they fired in the air.
They took over the parliament building for about 20 minutes, shouting demands from the roof before descending peacefully.
Oooooo! sfgate. No credability concerns there.
Well the fact that Duncan either completely ignores liberal wrongdoing or makes excuses for it(a la this post) speaks for itself.
illuminized freemason
Do you need a map to Little Green Balls, or can you find it by yourself? I think they have what you're looking for over there.
All join me for a Duncan circle jerk! Ladies, you can catch.
Just ask Anthony Franciosa.
Uh...didn't he just join Wilson Pickett?
"... out of something like 557 recognized tribes in America, less than half have casinos. And out of the half that do have casinos, in my view, there's only about 10% that are what we would call super successful, making these huge dollars you hear, when the vast majority of Indian people are still dirt poor and struggling every day to try to get an education for their kids or to try to make ends meet from a financial standpoint."
BEN NIGHTHORSE CAMPBELL
I'm almost positive you're
thinking of Meryl Streep vis a
vis John Cazale.
steve simels |
Good grief. You're right. But she was left a widow. Oh lord, unless I have that wrong too!
Well the fact that Duncan either completely ignores liberal wrongdoing or makes excuses for it(a la this post) speaks for itself.
illuminized freemason
Yeah, yeah. Whatever.
(Points index finger towards side of head, spins!)
Atrios, the young turks continues.
Meanwhile, where is Bill Clinton, where is Edwards, where is Clark? These three should make statements in support of Dems who oppose Alito.
They have the support to reinforce Democrats who fear vote loss by opposinbg Alito.
Post Birthday/End of Exam Party
More Photos from Thursday Night
ql in ny:
I don't think Cazale and Streep
were married.
Just dear friends, IIRC.
Following on from the previous post: once the JackOff indictments came down, the whore media essentially swallowed the premise that he was a neutral player, like every Attorney General was expected to be until 2001.
Well the fact that Duncan either completely ignores liberal wrongdoing or makes excuses for it(a la this post) speaks for itself.
aluminuminized freeanus
Awwwww. They're sooooo cute when they imitate language....
how does it fell to be a willing dupe???
capio
I wouldn't know. Why don't you tell me how it feels.
I'm surprised the trolls are up this early.
Coulter in Jail?
http://www.salon.com/politics/wa...lter/
index.html
All join me for a Duncan circle jerk! Ladies, you can catch.
illuminized freemason | 01.28.06 - 12:13 pm | #
Gordon!!!
Good to see you, pal!
Please blow me!
Again!!
I wouldn't know. Why don't you tell me how it feels.
aluminuminized freeanus
So. Mister troll. You've served in the military? Ever fight against fascism?
I don't think Cazale and Streep
were married.
Just dear friends, IIRC.
They were engaged at the time of his death.
With a spritz of hair-in-can Matt's
scalp has been technically corrected.
It's funny to watch the wingnut rubes listen to their political masters. The masters yell that they're "talking" about better education, better jobs, better regulations on greedy, out-of-control big businesses, etc., while the rubes listen in wide-eyed wonder.
Perhaps, someday, a wingnut rube will stand up and say, "When are you gonna quit talking about this shit and do something about it?"
let me see, atrios is supposed to admit to the wromgdoing of democrats because they received less donations from the indian tribes because abramoff, as a rethug agent, told the tribes to???
how do you delude yourself so well??
Doesn't this assclown have a widow's son to go help or somesuch?
OT: Scandals 'won't destroy Lib Dems'
Six weeks of scandals will not destroy 150 years of Liberalism, Liberal Democrat leadership contender Sir Menzies Campbell has told activists.
Speaking at the first hustings for the post, the acting leader dismissed those who had been "quick to write us off".
Lib Dem president Simon Hughes and contender Chris Huhne also took part in the hustings in Plymouth.
Phew. She did have a husband who died of colon cancer.
Her husband, Jay Monahan, died in 1998 of colon cancer, and in 1999 Couric co-founded a non-profit organization for cancer research and education. In December 2001 Couric signed a contract (reportedly worth $65 million) to remain with the Today Show through 2006.
from here
Happy New Year, everyone.
They were engaged at the time of his death.
BlakNo1 | Email | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 12:16 pm | #
I did not know that.
Tom happy new year!
Yeah, yeah. Whatever.
Yeah, yeah. Whatever my ass. Have fun fucking this country up with the same red vs. blue bullshit board game. Who has more pieces these days anyway?
Right, Duncan. They are obscuring the narrative, and that is a fundamentally dishonest thing to do... as you clearly pointed out a few days ago.
One thing I like now is that as the pressure mounts a little bit, we see more of the players' true colors. It ain't pretty, but it gradually becomes clearer just what has been happening and where the structural bones are.
KAtie Couric's husband was Jay Monahan, a NYC attorney. Also a Dem - he was frequently on nightly talk shows during Clinton/Monica saga/impeachment, supporting Clinton. Actually, Katie also comes from a Dem family. Her sister was a Dem state legislator in VA for a long time and a few years ago; announced for Lt Gov position; was diagnosed with breast cancer shortly thereafter; withdrew from campaign and died a few months later.
The link I posted upthread links to Cazale's imdb bio.
these bush followers are truly masochistic.
I wouldn't know. Why don't you tell me how it feels.
aluminuminized freeanus
It's amazing to me how quickly these shitbags run away when i ask them if they've served. It's uncanny!
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...0206/
vonhoffman
let me see, atrios is supposed to admit to the wromgdoing of democrats because they received less donations from the indian tribes because abramoff, as a rethug agent, told the tribes to???
how do you delude yourself so well??
capio
No, it is because the dems accepted them in the first place. Let me make this as simple as possible for you. If you accepted donations from this guy then you are an asshole. Period. Is that simple enough for you?
oh little man, little man, you of all people should know that size does not matter.
33 degrees of assclownery, right here on display.
Yeah, yeah. Whatever my ass. Have fun fucking this country up with the same red vs. blue bullshit board game. Who has more pieces these days anyway?
illuminized freemason
Why do you have to shit in the punchbowl?
It's amazing to me how quickly these shitbags run away when i ask them if they've served. It's uncanny!
have skunk
It's more likely the radical right bloggers like the Ma-ding-a-ling Marriage or PissBang have been served retraction letters by lawyers than they've served in the military.
Hey freeanus, check this out. This is your degenrate nazi leadership who served in the military:
Republicans
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* House Whiip Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Had "other priorities."
Several deferments, the last for wife's pregnancy.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Donald Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as aviator and flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: six-year Nat'l Guard commitment (infour).
Issues of desertion and unfitness.
* Ronald Reagan: made war propaganda movies.
* Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of
Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Bob Dole: Army officer WWII.
* Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Duke Cunningham: nominated for Medal of Honor, Navy
Cross, Silver Stars, Air Medals, Purple Hearts.
* Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-1986
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* G.H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII. Shot down by the Japanese.
* Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve
It's amazing to me how quickly these shitbags run away when i ask them if they've served. It's uncanny!
have skunk
I have, not that you believe anyone who says that(unless they share your views).
I just love how those fundie assholes think someone can be "turned" gay.
Just like that!
Terry C, Coldplayer
The only alternative is that God made them that way. And that makes their heads explode.
India, Saudi Arabia sign declaration
India and Saudi Arabia have agreed to closely and actively cooperate to fight terrorism and other transnational crimes.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud signed a landmark "Delhi Declaration" in the capital on Friday.
Under this, the two sides will work for closer cooperation in the field of information and communication technology, agriculture, bio-techonology and non-conventional energy technologies.
http://nytimes.com/2006/01/29/
sc...artner=homepage
Read this article. This sentence stood out to me in a way that sends shivers down my spine.
"At climate laboratories of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, for example, many scientists who routinely took calls from reporters five years ago can now do so only if the interview is approved by administration officials in Washington, and then only if a public affairs officer is present or on the phone."
What are we? The goddamn Soviet Union, thats what. Or Iraq under Saddam, or Iran, or Communist China for Christ's sake.
The Bush administration and all Republicans are nothing but evil plain and simple. How can any true conservative go along with this kind of censorship?
Draco -
After all the suggestions for the immediate injuries, a suggestion for maybe avoiding future injuries: LOTS of light. Make sure you have LOTS of light in the bedroom and bathroom especially. Also, (I hope this doesn't sound insulting), you might think about using some of the "baby-proofing" products that are available, like some soft plastic edging for corners of furniture and such. Try to make the house generally safer for yourself. It worked for my legally-blind friend.
these bush followers are truly masochistic.
capio
Dumber than a box of rocks, too.
We have a term for those like IF.
I believe we call them 'fools.'
The Bush administration and all Republicans are nothing but evil plain and simple.
Bing Crosby
WORD!
the donations were legal from the indian tribes, donations that were given long before jackoff came on the seen. you don't even know what the fuck you are talking about.
So I guess have skunk thinks that you have to serve in the military to have an opinion about that or anything else...
I don't think Cazale and Streep
were married.
Just dear friends, IIRC.
steve simels
I think they lived together and might have had a child.
I'm relieved that Katie's husband died of colon cancer. It would have really screwed with my mind if I had been that wrong.
BlakNo1 - So you can go back to respecting her a tad. And reading her bio, she actually did have some television reporting experience, so she should know better, so the respect is gone again.
oh little man, little man, you of all people should know that size does not matter.
capio
Old wives tale made up by women married to little men.
another one of Bush's friends...
After four years, Enron's Lay and Skilling to face jury
HOUSTON (Reuters) - Four years after the dramatic demise of Enron Corp., former chiefs Ken Lay and Jeffrey Skilling will enter a federal courtroom in Houston on Monday to face charges linking them to one of the biggest business disasters in U.S. history.
The case against Lay, 63, and Skilling, 52, hinges on whether the two executives, who once enthralled Wall Street by creating a company that became the nation's seventh largest, were aware of Enron's financial shell game that pumped up earnings while hiding billions of dollars in deb
I have, not that you believe anyone who says that(unless they share your views).
illuminized freemason
So why don't you go where someone shares YOUR views?
I mean, why stay here?
If you accepted donations from this guy then you are an asshole. Period.
Yep. You're also a Republican, because Abramoff didn't give any donations to Democrats.
I just love how those fundie assholes think someone can be "turned" gay.
Just like that!
Terry C, Coldplayer
The only alternative is that God made them that way. And that makes their heads explode.
beekabeck
I thought it was because then they could blame someone else for their closeted lives as opposed to accepting themselves for who they are. And blaming other people is always job #1 for the Busheviks, especially when the alternative is accepting reality.
I have, not that you believe anyone who says that(unless they share your views).
illuminized freemason
Maybe you "served" with Lindsey "Clean you cock" Graham for five years in Germany. Studied German history, too.
oh little man, little man, you of all people should know that size does not matter.
capio
Old wives tale made up by women married to little men.
footloose
Then again, one cannot do precision work with a crowbar.
Just sayin'!
no, but you have to have a functioning brain.
So I guess have skunk thinks that you have to serve in the military to have an opinion about that or anything else...
illuminized freemason
If your political party spent the 1990's calling Bill Clinton a draft-dodger,
yeah, you do.
Soldier hit detainees in Afghanistan
KABUL (Reuters) - A U.S. court martial found a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan guilty of mistreating detainees and demoted him and sentenced him to four months in detention without pay, the U.S. military said on Saturday.
Army Specialist James Hayes was accused of punching detainees in the chest, arms and shoulders at a base in Uruzgan province in July.
He was found guilty on Friday of one count of conspiracy to maltreat and two counts of maltreatment, the military said in a statement
So why don't you go where someone shares YOUR views?
I mean, why stay here?
Terry C, Coldplayer
A site that shares my views? Really? Why would I do that? I am not into limiting the views I come across. You should try it sometime. Maybe we can end the BS and get some work done.
India and Saudi Arabia have agreed to closely and actively cooperate to fight terrorism and other transnational crimes.
Whoa - if I remember correctly, most of the 9-11 hijackers were Saudis.
Just ask Anthony Franciosa.
Forgot he just passed away.
Unfortunately for him, I'll always remember him for "The Name of the Game" - a stupid late 60s TV show he was in with Gene Barry and Robert Stack. He did much better work in much better vehicles, but that show was the first thing that leaped to mind when I heard he had died...
Then again, one cannot do precision work with a crowbar.
Just sayin'!
Terry C
Yeah, but at least the equipment is in the toolbox.
ecoast,
karl rove is a dem
Must be wonderful to be like IF.
Have all the answers.
If your political party spent the 1990's calling Bill Clinton a draft-dodger,
yeah, you do.
Doc
Not my party... I don't have a party. I suppose I am one of those uppity idealist assholes who thinks that maybe there is another way...
I'm a Mutualist
Eschaton: Where the stupidest trolls on the internet come to play.
So I guess have skunk thinks that you have to serve in the military to have an opinion about that or anything else...
illuminized freemason
I know for a fact that those who have served and experienced war are the ones LEAST likely to engage in one or lead his country into one. See our current Dick-drippings in Chief.
Click here for Cheetos, troll:
http://www.thenausea.com/element...er/
gallery1.htm
Bush uses Democrats' praise to push Alito vote
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush on Saturday quoted Democratic praise for Samuel Alito in an effort to deter some in the party who want to block nomination of the conservative appeals judge to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Alito is virtually certain to be confirmed next week by the full Republican-led Senate on a largely party-line vote. He could move the country's highest court to the right on abortion and other social issues.
Several prominent Democrats have called for a procedural roadblock called a filibuster to thwart a vote but they lack the necessary support.
Unfortunately for him, I'll always remember him for "The Name of the Game" - a stupid late 60s TV show he was in with Gene Barry and Robert Stack. He did much better work in much better vehicles, but that show was the first thing that leaped to mind when I heard he had died...
dave™
I remember him for the sitcom he did before "Name Of The Game."
It was called "Valentine's Day". His co-star was Jack Soo, who later played Detective Yamada on "Barney Miller."
EEK!! A TROLL!!!
Eschaton: Where the stupidest trolls on the internet come to play.
Atrios
Doctor BLT is pretty amusing as trolls go.
Jeez, this troll is no fun. It just gives the same old boiler room responses, no originality at all besides the name.
The judges say 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.
how can you be an idealist, when you do not even have a clue??
Mutualist Blog: Free Market Anti-Capitalism
i was impressed with maury & connie this morning. they worked in the footage of rumsfeld shaking hands with saddam.
i dont think ive seen that on any other "mainstream" news show.
Must be wonderful to be like IF.
Have all the answers.
Terry C, Coldplayer
Must be terrible to be like TC,C.
Getting my thinking orders from Uncle biased.
Eschaton: Where the stupidest trolls on the internet come to play.
Atrios
Really.
We SHOULD ignore them all, but they say such stupid shit, it's tough to let it go unchallenged.
I think it's precious how trolls feel compelled to go through the whole "I'm not a Republican" kabuki whenever you call them on it. Why are they actively afraid to declare their republican loyalties?
troll stymied. he went for the cheetos.
Then again, one cannot do precision work with a crowbar.
Just sayin'!
Terry C, Coldplayer
Must be terrible to be like TC,C.
Getting my thinking orders from Uncle biased.
illuminized freemason
Oh, yeah - WE get "thinking orders".
There's that projection again.
Just Go after these fuckers. They run away.
Jeez, this troll is no fun. It just gives the same old boiler room responses, no originality at all besides the name.
Another advantage my name has that it isn't from a goth music group. Have you found the origin of feces yet?
Well, my guest has arrived so I must away. Have fun, back later!!
Why are they actively afraid to declare their republican loyalties?
Doc
What do Republicans stand for? Does this current batch even remotely hold up to the standards?
We have a term for those like IF.
I believe we call them 'fools.'
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere |
==
And a good, sturdy old word it is. Why don't they make em like that anymore?
--------
Eschaton: Where the stupidest trolls on the internet come to play.
Atrios
==
That's why they pay you the big bucks Atrios.
Really.
We SHOULD ignore them all, but they say such stupid shit, it's tough to let it go unchallenged.
Terry C, Coldplayer
NO MORE IGNORING. Chop, tag and bag.
Not my party... I don't have a party.
No life either, apparently.
Even Instapundit said on NPR the other day "this is a Republican scandal".
listening to Everbody Hurts by REM at the moment.
monty burns: Excellent
Hmmmm...Now Wouldn't This Be Amusing?
Will Bunch has an intriguing idea. One of those sorts of ideas that make you go, "Hmmmm. That could work."
Nobody asked us, but if Harry Reid had a true flare for politics -- and for the dramatic -- he would try to convince his 43 other members, in the name of party unity, to filibuster Alito...for exactly one day. Why? Because Tuesday night will be the one night in the first half of 2006 when regular folks may actually watch a political event on television.
http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/
...846614685131671
Why are they actively afraid to declare their republican loyalties?
Doc
WORD.
On the political right, it seems there is a lot of magical thinking. It would seem that they believe that if they worship the emperor, no harm will befall them.
hate to break it to them, but this regime cares nothing for you, and will not hesitate to eat you alive if it suits their purposes.
What do Republicans stand for?
footloose
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
re: Katie Couric:
I'd hit it.
big bucks? soros only pays me a million a month, and it isn't enough.
I know for a fact that those who have served and experienced war are the ones LEAST likely to engage in one or lead his country into one.
Or to at least take a little time out from war profiteering to ensure that our troops have armor. Or to care about what happens to them when they come home. Or to listen to all the Pentagon brass, not just the ones who are willing to play along with the wacky neocon fantasy of the day.
On the political right, it seems there is a lot of magical thinking. It would seem that they believe that if they worship the emperor, no harm will befall them.
hate to break it to them, but this regime cares nothing for you, and will not hesitate to eat you alive if it suits their purposes.
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere
Bush Co. doesn't know they exist.
Wouldn't give damn about them if they did know.
Their "loyalty" is not going to be rewarded with McMansions, fancy cars and cushy jobs.
And, if the draft IS brought back, they will be among the first to be shipped off.
hate to break it to them, but this regime cares nothing for you, and will not hesitate to eat you alive if it suits their purposes.
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere
Unless we bite the inside of their mouths when they try to swallow.
No more pussyfooting. Time to take back the agenda.
Since we're talking about "technically correct", I'd like to start some conversation on the verb "to direct". If I stand on the side of the highway and wave my arms from 7 to 9AM, it is "technically correct" to say that I "directed" thousands of people to go to work that morning. It would, however, be more than a little misleading. What can't the Post understand this? Show me a point-by-point connection between Abramoff and the Dems--one that did NOT already exist before Jack came on the scene--or drop it.
As an aside, if they DON'T drop it--which they won't--I hope they're just as determined to maintain their storyline when Tom DeLay's money laundering trial starts.
Dear Doc,
Why do you always fall back on the cliches? Do you really think that everyone belongs to one of two parties? Are you that stupid? Do you think everyone at least belongs to a party? You must be. Either that, or you have nothing to say.
listening to "Everybody Hurts" by REM at the moment.
Moonbootica, Die Walküre
That would have been the theme song for the thread I was on last night.
Everyone telling divorce stories.
No more fear of these fools. There's nothing to lose by standing up to these cowards. TAKE the HEAD shots.
soros only pays me a million a month, and it isn't enough.
==
Clearly, you need an assistant. I recommend me.
i wish Soros would come along and pay off my debts after i leave Uni!!!!!
flix is playing mr.smith goes to washington again tonight.
It's too bad the nonmillionares and the Christian wackos are as dumb as stumps, because if they weren't, they might realize that they never have and never will receive anything in return for their "loyalty."
I remember him for the sitcom he did before "Name Of The Game."
It was called "Valentine's Day". His co-star was Jack Soo
Oh, hell, I remember that! I can see the opening of the show right now - he's standing in his apartment and looks up with a big smile on his face when the credits start!
CNN is doing a piece on New Orleans suicides.
Have you considered that, aluminized free anus?
newsbusters
I think shes throwing shit:
The Dems are doing it . . . for the children!
OR
Taking Dean to the woodshed, she continued: "Why has this become such a poisonous partisan issue?
(because Bush used the terrorism issue to cement his party position?)
Or to at least take a little time out from war profiteering to ensure that our troops have armor.
When I read the story about soldiers in Iraq being forced to get rid of their Dragonskin body armor because it wasn't regulation, it reminded me of the scene in One Day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch when the prisoners are forced to strip off their unauthorized warm shirts before going out into the Arctic winter to lay brick.
Everyone telling divorce stories.
Terry C, Coldplayer
Oh. Explains the crowbar reference?
now i know why rethugs have to cheat, if this is what they have to work with.
Bush uses Democrats' praise to push Alito vote
we KNEW that was coming
the shit should fly all over ANY Dumbocrap fucknozzle who said anything positive about Mussalito...
soros only pays me a million a month, and it isn't enough.
And he's damn slow with the checks. I'm still waiting for my December pay!
Illuminized, do you also spend time on the wingnut blogs, criticizing their blind partisan defense of Chimpy? Or are you a complete hypocrite? Just asking.
yep every morning i expect a check to be posted through my door from Soros....
No more fear of these fools. There's nothing to lose by standing up to these cowards. TAKE the HEAD shots.
have skunk
Have you considered that, aluminized free anus?
have skunk
Wow. Internet threats and name calling. What, are you 8 years old or what?
re: Katie Couric:
I'd hit it.
You know, even a few years ago, I'd agree. But she's not aging well, and that statement comes from a guy who likes older women.
For example - Lauren Bacall? I'd hit it. Today.
It's a sleight of hand trick unparalleled in human history. The wingnut rube political masters have convinced the wingnut rubes that they're doing them them a favor by lowering their wages, stripping away their medical benefits, and destroying their unions and pension plans.
These wingnut rubes should avoid carnivals and games of chance.
Kabuki is such an interesting art form. It's so stylized, and yet it has a quality that would almost lead one to believe it was real life.
Well said!
http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item..._homosexuality/
Oh, and incidentally, Tweety tells "fag jokes" because he has his own issues.
Like his masturbatory fantasies about Prince Fuckwit.
Tony Franciosa is conflated in my mind with late-sixties 'Mediterranean' furniture, dangly earrings, and black eyeliner.
Illuminized, do you also spend time on the wingnut blogs, criticizing their blind partisan defense of Chimpy? Or are you a complete hypocrite? Just asking.
Dr. Wu
Yes I do. Not that you would know what life outside of this site is like.
re: Katie Couric:
I'd hit it.
What is WITH that gummy smile?
i'm a old lady now heh
Illuminized, do you also spend time on the wingnut blogs, criticizing their blind partisan defense of Chimpy? Or are you a complete hypocrite? Just asking.
The troll doesn't understand big words like 'hypocrite', Doc. You'll have to revert back to Dick and Jane style prose for it to understand you.
I'd hit it.
wŇÓ† - 12:36 pm
mebbe
with Jim Carville's head...
Not that you would know what life outside of this site is like.
illuminized freemason
The Bill Frist school of analysis.
howard dean is supposed to be on air america today. can't remember on whose show though. and on fox news with chris wallace tomorrow.
...do you also spend time on the wingnut blogs, criticizing their blind partisan defense of Chimpy? Or are you a complete hypocrite? Just asking.
Wherever Unka Karl tells him to go, he types in whatever Unka Karl tells him to type in.
Have Head Full of Shit - Will Travel.
Unfortunately for him, I'll always remember him for "The Name of the Game" - a
stupid late 60s TV show he was in with Gene Barry and Robert Stack. He did
much better work in much better vehicles, but that show was the first thing that
leaped to mind when I heard he had died...
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 12:28 pm | #
However, there were two episodes
of that show that were absolutely.
One was directed by Spielberg --
It was called LA 2013. Dystopian
ecological sci-fi show with Gene
Barry. The world has gone to
hell -- fascism, global warming,
pollution, the whole deal.
The other -- I don't remember the
title -- was a
story about a Janis Joplin-esque
rock singer's last
days. With the great Sharon Farrell
as Janis, and Robert Stack as the
straight journalist who tries to
save her.
It really rang true, which was
amazing for a commercial tv show
at the time.
Wish I had DVD's of both of them.
(because Bush used the terrorism issue to cement his party position?)
ccoaler
No doubt. If Bush had ever shown the slightest interest in keeping America safe (say, appointing qualified staff instead of political hacks to the DHS, or prioritizing Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and Afghanistan ahead of his Excellent Adventure in Iraq) I'd be more sympathetic. Bush doesn't give two shits about keeping America safe. Terrorism is just a convenient political tool to keep him in power, and keep the pork and the tax breaks flowing to his rich masters.
currently deciding what wine to buy tonight from Threshers.
either Porta Cabernet Sauvignon, Select Reserve
or
Porta Pinot Noir, Reserve
decisions, decisions
My grandfather didn't spend four years inthe Pacific in World War II just so that these fascist fucks could roll up the country.
Go ahead, aluminized freeanus, don't take a position, stand outside the fray, too afraid to engage. Pee your pants.
Eat Cheetos. Vichy oppotunists like you have made collaboration a fine art throughout history, flexible anuses.
BlakNo1 - So you can go back to respecting her a tad. And reading her bio, she actually did have some television reporting experience, so she should know better, so the respect is gone again.
ql in ny | 01.28.06 - 12:24 pm |
Oh, she knows better. As does Lauer. I remember in the early/mid 90's they actually did their jobs. But starting 97/98, they became full-fledge media whores.
Bush doesn't give two shits about keeping America safe. Terrorism is just a convenient political tool to keep him in power, and keep the pork and the tax breaks flowing to his rich masters.
Dr. Wu
Bush doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself.
Textbook sociopath.
I have a message for IF. You had your chance to dialogue with us, and you decided that there was no dialoguing, only smearing and lying.
I have only one aim, and that is squelching the regime and marginalizing its believers in order that those who believe in rational power may rise.
Yes I do. Not that you would know what life outside of this site is like.
illuminized freemason
One of those technically impossible statements as the radical right bloggers don't allow dissent in their comments sections.
Even the "non-partisan" cowards censor their comments to purge the unwanted truth from invading their truthiness.
i actually do have a life thank you very much, just see my blog for details
Yes I do. Not that you would know what life outside of this site is like.
illuminized freemason | 01.28.06 - 12:45 pm | #
Gordon!!!
Good to see you again.
So are you gonna blow me again
or what?
Matt Lauer, meet the Ducks.
These wingnut rubes should avoid carnivals and games of chance.
The troll needs to pay attention to what the august LR is advising.
My grandfather didn't spend four years inthe Pacific in World War II just so that these fascist fucks could roll up the country.
Not did my dad.
The sound you hear are WW II veterans spinning in their graves.
They fought fascism and 60 years later, it's taken over the country.
Hitler and Mussolini are down in hell laughing their asses off.
But starting 97/98, they became full-fledge media whores.
It beats working. Serious journalism is hard--sailing in 5 minutes ahead of air time and grabbing the RNC talking points off the fax is easy, and guaranteed not to get you into trouble with the management or the advertisers.
If i tied a camera to my hugely engorged male member and ass-fucked Katie
on national tv, would it get the same ratings as her colonoscopy?
Sorry.
NOR did my dad.
I'm sick of Bush and his enablers.
I just called my senator, Ben Nelson, to express my opinion regarding Judge Alito. His voice mail box is full. Full with messages like my would have been or full because he really doesn't want to hear from people like me?
No credability concerns there.
Admiral Moe Howard
I was not around in the good old days - I have never seen a trool advance an argument that wasn't complete dross. Now go look up dross you maroon!
Go ahead, aluminized freeanus, don't take a position, stand outside the fray, too afraid to engage. Pee your pants.
Who said I wasn't? My position? I hate both parties. The political system is ridiculous and you know it. It is beyond absurd. Thanks to people like you who call people anuses in the name of freedom because your granddad fought for that right!
My dad was in the Army AND Navy during WW II.
No credability concerns there.
Admiral Moe Howard
No literacy there.
It's "credibility"
Morning, all.
I see we've caught a case of troll this morning.
i'm a old lady now heh
Moonbootica, I've got socks that are older than you. Oh, to be in my twenties again....
And Chimpy--if you don't like the "partisanship" over your nominations, maybe you should start appointing nominees acceptable to a majority of the American people, rather than nominees acceptable only to whatever extremist fringe you're trying to pander to this month.
My grandfather didn't spend four years inthe Pacific in World War II just so that these fascist fucks could roll up the country.
Neither did my father in law, a lifelong New Deal Democrat.
Does it bother anyone else that Katie did not correct this "technical" mistake herself?
Why did they have to bring in the big guns with charts?
Speaking of Air America....
what's the deal with the
Satellite Sisters replacing
Mike Malloy?
Is that permanent, or is Mike
just on vacation?
The Sisters are kind of
lame. IMHO.
Those against politics are in favor of the politics inflicted upon them. Bertolt Brecht
IF's "position" is coming in and stirring up bullshit.
Apparently, the troll has nothing else to do but annoy everyone.
People are trying to have adult conversations, but the trolls can't stand that.
Thanks to people like you who call people anuses in the name of freedom because your granddad fought for that right!
You forget to preface anus with aluminized.
One of those technically impossible statements as the radical right bloggers don't allow dissent in their comments sections.
Mine are promptly deleted.
Note the theatrical device of moving from incitement to nihilism as the audience displays varied levels of engagement. Not characteristic of the ancient kabuki forms, yet oddly fascinating in its pathos.
They fought fascism and 60 years later, it's taken over the country.
Hitler and Mussolini are down in hell laughing their asses off.
Liberal Observer- 12:49 pm
at least, that's what they thought they were doing...
cuz, as you know, all the wars of the last 100 years were about determining which variety of fascism (monarchical, market, bureaucratic, militaristic) would prevail into the NEXT century.
They fought fascism and 60 years later, it's taken over the country.
==
Nonsense. Fascists wear shiny black boots and smoke their cigarettes funny. Murka is just full of nice, middle-class white people going to church.
Toonscribe my father told me that he realised that he has no teenage children anymore.
they are all grown up.
My 86 year old mom said
yesterday (re:Bush)
"I'm really frightened that we
have three more years of this
asshole."
And she never talks like that.
People are trying to have adult conversations
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... damn, that was good. It's why I come here.
SHA-ZAMMMMMMMMMMM! Argh!
have skunk
That is the first post here. Is that the adult conversation you are talking about?
People are trying to have adult conversations, but the trolls can't stand that.
Liberal Observer
Wingnuttery is predicated on very childish needs--simple slogans, black and white issues, and the benevolent authority of God and Government. To a wingnut, the thought of being in control of their own destiny is terrifying.
...and i need to close my tags.
His voice mail box is full.
i thinking senators opening up their offices to find faxes spilling out of them - could have impact too.
That is the first post here. Is that the adult conversation you are talking about?
Completely devoid of any sense of humor.
The idea that this scandal is "bipartisan" in any way is absurd and nonsensical.
Abramoff's purpose was the destruction of Democrats.
HOW CAN A SCANDAL BE "BIPARTISAN" WHEN THE POINT OF THE SCANDAL IS TO KILL ONE OF THE PARTIES?"
Abramoff and his allies Tom DeLay, Ralph Reed and Karl Rove had two goals: to destroy the Democrats and to enrich themselves and their clients.
Were you aware, Katie? (Tim? Chris? Debbie?) that:
Indian money was directed to NH for phone jamming to kill Democratic chances and high Republican officials were convicted for this?
Abramoff and DeLay's "K Street Project" was systematically designed to elminate or minimize any Democratic influence on legislation, and Corporations were told by the K Street Project to fire their Democratic lobbyists?
Abramoff Indian money was donated to TRM PAC for Texas redistricting to kill Democratic seats?
How can anyone say with a straight face that this scandal is bipartisan?
What can the usual suspect say to that? Well, it's "technically correct" that Republicans used illegal phone jamming funded by Abramoff to steal elections?
[Also posted as a Kos diary]
And she never talks like that.
steve simels
The hell she doesn't! She swears like a drunken sailor on shore leave when I am hammering away at her wrinkled old cunt.
One was directed by Spielberg --
It was called LA 2013. Dystopian
ecological sci-fi show with Gene
Barry. The world has gone to
hell -- fascism, global warming,
pollution, the whole deal.
Written by Philip Wylie - I had no idea Spielberg directed that.
...a
story about a Janis Joplin-esque
rock singer's last
days. With the great Sharon Farrell
as Janis...
BTW, according to imdb.com, Sharon Farrell was also in "LA 2017"...
"Name of the Game" was actually a groundbreaking show for the time - a 90 minute anthology series that rotated between the three stars every week. Kind of the blueprint for the later "NBC Mystery Movie" which had "Columbo," "McMillan and Wife," "McCloud," and "Hec Ramsey"...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... damn, that was good. It's why I come here.
illuminized freemason | 01.28.06 - 12:54 pm | #
Gordon....seriously, why are you
posting under that lame name?
And when are you gonna blow me
again?
Steve--you know things are bad when Mother Simels starts cursing.
My grandfather didn't spend four years inthe Pacific in World War II just so that these fascist fucks could roll up the country.
Neither did my father in law, a lifelong New Deal Democrat.
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere - 12:52 pm
they didn't know that was what they were doing; but it was, really...
they were ensuring the survival of that particular, unique USer kind of fascism; it was never anything but that, since at least 1916... it didn't look like the Axis kind, but the consequences were, eventually, identical: forging an unbreakable alliance between bidness and the State...
what's the deal with the
Satellite Sisters replacing
Mike Malloy?
ugh, puke, are you kidding me.
what did malloy say that got him booted?
[Also posted as a Kos diary]
Upper West
It would be nice to think that either Matt or Katie are smart enough to use the Internet, and that they might actually read a blog someday.
However, I'm guessing that they've been in broadcast television long enough for any brain cells they once may have had to have shut down. At the moment they're no doubt glued to the Hollywood Minute for the latest on Britney.
why the hell should the u.s. be importing chicken from china:
Some chicken imports from China proposed
Critics cite fear over bird flu
By Libby Quaid, Associated Press | January 28, 2006
WASHINGTON -- The Agriculture Department is seeking to allow importing of poultry processed in China, where thousands of birds and several people have died from bird flu.
Critics are urging the department to drop the proposal, and the US industry is raising concerns about how it would affect consumers' perception of chicken safety. The United States does not import poultry from countries where the virulent bird flu strain is present.
Under the department's proposal, the United States still would not accept Chinese chickens. China would have to process poultry slaughtered in the United States or other countries from which it accepts poultry.
The industry did not ask for the proposal, National Chicken Council spokesman Richard Lobb said. Chicken companies test every flock in the nation to reassure people that chicken is safe to eat.
Under the government proposal, the poultry would have to be fully cooked and shelf stable, which basically means it would be canned. ''I'm not defending it, and we are concerned about consumer perceptions, but the fact of the matter is, cooking destroys any virus, so canned food, as long as the canning is done properly, doesn't present any food safety problem," Lobb said.
The Agriculture Department proposed the rule, with no announcement, on Nov. 23. The period during which it accepted comments on the proposal ended Monday. The rule still must be finalized before it takes effect.
I write letters:
Dear Today show,
Matt Lauer, in response to Howard Dean disputing Katie Couric's unfactual allegation that Abramoff was a equal giver, claimed that DNC chairman Dean's claim was 'technically correct'.
Given the long, and public affiliation between Abramoff and the Republican Party, it's hard to understand why the qualifier 'technically' applied. All of the claims from the Administration that 'people affiliated with Abramoff' gave to democrats are based in deliberate, and shallow distortions of the obvious facts. Abramoff was a lobbyist. His clients were campaign donors. Before they were his clients, many of them gave to Democrats. After they became his clients, in many cases many of them ceased or diminished their contribution to Democrats. In the mean time, Abramoff is charged with bilking his clients by playing them off against each other, which makes his clients his victims, not his accomplices.
So how was Howard Dean's claim that Abramoff didn't give to Democrats 'technically' correct? The only people claiming that Abramoff (or his 'associates') did are trying hard to distance the republican party from a damaging corruption scandal. Everyone who'd even heard of Abramoff more than a few months ago knew he was a complete and outspoken Republican partisan. So all this pretense that there's uncertainty about who he was bribing and how rings completely false.
Additionally, Katie Couric claimed her assertions were backed by a study that in fact refuted her assertions. Does that mean she didn't read the study, or that she didn't understand it. And if she didn't read the study, who TOLD her that the study proved that Abramoff gave to Democrats? Given that this particular piece of misinformation is newly minted since the charges against Abramoff were filed, I'd like to know who at NBC is either generating or passing along Administration talking points as news? This isn't the first time, this isn't even the dozenth time that your morning show has been armed with the latest talking points.
Here's a suggestion for an investigative story. Find out who in your news room is either a party operative or on the take from one to push false information as news.
And again, what about Dean's statement was 'technically' correct?
Oh, and the answer to...
How can anyone say with a straight face that this scandal is bipartisan?
...is that they're paid a lot of money to do exactly that.
And when are you gonna blow me
again?
steve simels
Just as soon as you roll off of your dad.
"Why does anyone watch these morning shows. They are the most insipid, factless, useless, well you get the picture, waste of time on this earth."
I guess they ran out of ideas like, As the World Turns, A Day in Our Lives, General Hospital, and so forth. What better way to "prep" the soap opera crowd by turning the morning "news" into a real-time soap opera!
Who's this Famous Anus guy?
...a
story about a Janis Joplin-esque
rock singer's last
days. With the great Sharon Farrell
as Janis...
"A Hard Case of the Blues" - she played a singer called Jessie Boone.
imdb is a wonderful thing!
I'm just rarin' to go out and buy me some canned Chinese chicken. Think of the gourmet possibilities for that kind of quality ingredient.
"...he's full of shit." Something you realize every day whan you look in the mirror Black. Liar.
Written by Philip Wylie
I totally forgot that.
Wow...Spielberg and Wylie.
Dang....Universal should really
release that on video.
It was fantastic.
Also starring the great Severn
Darden as a fasicst apparatchik.
What better way to "prep" the soap opera crowd by turning the morning "news" into a real-time soap opera!
HalfFastSkier
I was never into those damn things.
Then again, I've worked since I was 17. The Housewife Thing was never for me.
Just as soon as you roll off of your dad.
Gordo
Oh. A regular Don Rickles.
Gordo has his hands in his pants at this very moment.
Thankful for the analysis of the MSM presented by Haveskunk. It has seemed that way for a couple of decades, but I never had any insider information to go along with my observation-based beliefs. I think the internet-sphere understands the MSM much better than they understand us, after all, they are slow and arrogant, they are lazy and self-satisfied, they are in a crowd where conformity is king. We have Duncan, and Kos, and Somersby, etc., they have their corporate ringmasters. They are by design too slow to adapt. Ecologically we are the bacteria and fungi: fast to adapt and quick to multiply. They are still looking for the stupid 'magic bullet' that will kill all bacteria and make lots of money. They cannot overcome, time is against them. And they are definitely in trouble. That's why evey story about the layoffs at the major papers has the obligatory line about the business still being 'highly profitable'. The down side is that the Democrats in the Senate are even more ossifed than the MSM. They're still trying to yuck it up with ass-clowns who are lying to save their tony mortgages, these Senators don't even realize how diseased their whores are, or their Joe's for that matter.
Hey, Steve, here's a good recap of "Name of the Game," with a publicity photo of the three leads.
Forgot the other reason I remember this show - it was the first time I saw Susan St. James, who played the ditzy secretary in all the episodes. I had such a crush on her!
It's 'technically correct' that Matt Lauer is a human being, though his behavior puts him closer to a barnyard rat.
And again, what about Dean's statement was 'technically' correct?
Michael McLawhorn
The part that was objectively true.
"A Hard Case of the Blues" - she played a singer called Jessie Boone.
imdb is a wonderful thing!
Terry C, Coldplayer | 01.28.06 - 1:00 pm | #
Thanks babe!!
Swear to god, it was emotionally
devastating. At least as I
recall....
Here's a suggestion for an investigative story. Find out who in your news room is either a party operative or on the take from one to push false information as news.
I don't understand why the Dems who go on the wingnut shows won't keep pushing this. "All your questions seem to be GOP talking points, Chris. How'd that happen? Are you being paid by the RNC, or just volunteering?"
Also starring the great Severn
Darden as a fasicst apparatchik.
He was so great in "President's Analyst"!
Gordo is stroking his winker even as we speak.
Who's this Famous Anus guy?
If he tries to hand you a cookie, don't take it...
Out for now.
I don't understand why the Dems who go on the wingnut shows won't keep pushing this. "All your questions seem to be GOP talking points, Chris. How'd that happen? Are you being paid by the RNC, or just volunteering?"
I would pay to see that.
Re: Chinese Chicken
i buy chinese chicken-breas jerky for the dogs' snacks...
there are several jerks herabouts which i would cheerfully feed to the dogs, after chopping 'em into convenient sized parcels...
...
Gordo will never know how vaginas taste.
Some chicken imports from China proposed
the story i heard was a proposal to send over our own US chickens to china to get processed and china would send it back rendered.
Just as soon as you roll off of your dad.
Gordo
See...I told you guys it was
Gordo posting under a really
stupid name.
(Brownshirt G) has his hands in his pants at this very moment.
Don't take a cookie from him, either!
He was so great in "President's Analyst"!
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 1:03 pm | #
Wow....I thought I was the only
person who loved that movie...
Gordo is figging himself with a carrot and wondering why he can't feel the burn.
Gordo will never know how vaginas taste.
wŇÓ†
All he has to do is lick his lips to taste his anus.
my father told me that he realised that he has no teenage children anymore.
That can take the relationship to a new level. My father and I never really got along all that well until I reached my twenties and then things started to improve rapidly. We didn't really fight or anything before. We just didn't seem to have anything in common. Now I think we're closer than ever.
Gordo has his hands in his pants at this very moment.
he's got to do something until the next unemployment check comes in.
chickenhawk, conservative crybaby, collecting welfare, and what would the sisters of Delta Chi think? Geoffy/gordo, wasting a fine eduMacation from the University of Southern Maine.
what a waste, and despite the fact the Army has doubled their enlistment bonus "gordo" is just too chicken to follow through.
what a putz.
Garden bird survey gets under way
Hundreds of thousands of people are expected to play their part in this weekend's annual Big Garden Birdwatch.
Households across the country are being asked to spare some time to count the different species they see, and pass the record on to the RSPB.
The annual count, which has been going since 1979, will reveal the most common winter bird.
I don't understand why the Dems who go on the wingnut shows won't keep pushing this. "All your questions seem to be GOP talking points, Chris. How'd that happen? Are you being paid by the RNC, or just volunteering?"
dean and pelosi did that once. but you're right. challenging gop talking points and their origins, should be reflexive.
They are by design too slow to adapt.
Larry, you're on the right track. Also remember that the TV revenue model is entirely based on advertising. Upper management may not even watch the content of their own news shows--their job isn't to be concerned with what's going out, but what's coming in. Most of their employees, even in the newsrooms, aren't really "journalists" in the sense that their priority isn't informing or investigating--it's filling time slots with content that they think will keep people from changing the channel before their sponsors' advertisements come on. Anyone who expects TV news to exhibit some altruistic interest in balance or investigative reporting is living in a fantasy world.
Would someone mind explaining to be ehat's the differenc ebetween being 'technically' correct' and the truth?
The way i see it, it would like being told while crimson is a "red" color technically is isn't...it's crimson.
Am i close?
Gordo can't even name the Prime Minister of Germany.
The Sisters are kind of
lame. IMHO.
steve simels
I think that is just in NYC. The fuckers. You can get his show the next day from The White Rose Society. If you need a linky let me know.
University of Southern Maine.
Ah yes, a citadel of learning, on par with the University of Morthern Maine, the University of Eastern Maine, and the University of Westrn Maine...slightly better than the University of Southwestern Maine, or the University of Northeastern Maine...
gordo is why the world hates 'murica. He is not the exception - the only solace is that the empire will collapse a whole hell of a lot faster with gordo's heros in charge - as for all you decent types, move north - lots of room and real freedom - not the fake kind you're so used to bitching about
ql in ny:
I thank you!
And she never talks like that.
steve simels
My mom passed away in January of 2002. She never, ever mentioned w with the appendage "rat fucker." In a way I'm really glad she's not around to see the damage. She was always a bit to my left, I'm proud to say, after 5 years of w, I'm probably to her left now.
Yo, Steve, check out the full cast from that "Hard Case of the Blues" episode:
Percy Rodriguez (Reston), Russ Tamblyn (John Earl), Keenan Wynn (Lester), Bill Quinn (Deputy Coroner), Norman Fell (Winston Polk), Sharon Farrell (Jesse Boone), Michael Anderson Jr. (Bobby), Sal Mineo (Sheldon), George O'Hanlon (Manager)
From the episode guide for "Name of the Game" at TV.com...
we almost got lucky yesterday, I hear gordo slipped in the shower unfortunately his father caught him
the troll realizes the rethugs under bushco is a failure, but can't admit it, so he says he belongs to neither party while still defending the party talking points. i have a rethug brother who does this. it is quite sad, actually.
**are a failure
but you're right. challenging gop talking points and their origins, should be reflexive.
They should also be doing preemptive strikes- sending journalists the independent documentation that debunks the circulating GOP talking point in advance of any interviews, so that if the journalist still tries the press the issue, the democrat can respond "Why are you asking me about something you know to be false?".
dave™:
Thanks for that NAME OF THE GAME
link.
Seriously...I wish MCA would
start putting some of those shows
on video.
OT:
may we sometime soon exchange the image of the pretty boy with the too-big nose and the aspiring mullet for something--anything--else?
just askin'
?
may we sometime soon exchange the image of the pretty boy with the too-big nose and the aspiring mullet for something--anything--else?
NO!
OT:
may we sometime soon exchange the image of the pretty boy with the too-big nose and the aspiring mullet for something--anything--else?
You liked that redhead, dincha?
what did malloy say that got him booted?
WLIB wanted the money it could get for selling the rights to the time-slot. Malloy was pretty sanguine about it.
I'm sitting here, taking a break from housework.
Listening to the Indigo Girls sing "Mona Lisas and Madhatters." Beautiful.
They do it better than Elton John.
We are up against an enemy (Rethugs) that does not care what the consequences are as long as it "wins." They will embrace any kind of dishonesty, swallow any propaganda, tolerate any erosions of civil liberties as long as they can stick it in the libruls' faces. They don't care about "winning" within the law and they don't care about holding their own party leaders accountable.
As long as the "fags, spics and niggers" get kept in their place the rank-and-file Rethugs are happy. They are beyond shame. Republicans have no dignity. They are monsters.
I loved The Name of the Game when it was on, especially the last season when it looked like they knew they were not going to be renewed and pulled out all the stops and got wierd. That was the season with LA 2013 and, one of my favorites, an episode called "All the Old Familiar Faces" -- it had a kind of fantasmal Greek chorus that would appear as they shifted from scene to scene, singing a song reflecting on what had just happened and what was about to happen in the next scene. Unusual stuff for American tv.
Also, The President's Analyst is a great flick IMO. One of my favorites from the era.
The reason they're holding on to it so aggressively is probably because they heard it from Abramoff, who is said to have worked aggressively to push anti-Democrat misinformation personally, and so they believe it like they believe Colin Powell's bottle of talcum powder.
I don't understand why the Dems who go on the wingnut shows won't keep pushing this. "All your questions seem to be GOP talking points, Chris. How'd that happen? Are you being paid by the RNC, or just volunteering?"
The fringe benefits are great.
He gets to see Prince Fuckwit in a flight suit with his wonderful "package."
Would someone mind explaining to be ehat's the differenc ebetween being 'technically' correct' and the truth?
The "Abramoff gave to Democrats" meme is still playing on the other channels, so Lauer isn't allowed to come out and say it was wrong (both because it would violate his GOP loyalty oath and because it would make Katie look like a partisan hack, which hurts her value as a partisan hack). So 'technically correct' is sort of a non-apology apology that they hope will pacify the reality based community enough to shut us up and let them get back to advancing the next round of GOP talking points.
OT:
may we sometime soon exchange the image of the pretty boy with the too-big nose and the aspiring mullet for something--anything--else?
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Listening to the Indigo Girls
Yaers ago I liveds in a house full of lesbians. They played that stuff so much I felt like Malcom McDowell in Clockwork Orange. I still want to jump out a window when ever I hear it.....
the troll realizes the rethugs under bushco is a failure, but can't admit it, so he says he belongs to neither party while still defending the party talking points. i have a rethug brother who does this. it is quite sad, actually.
I have an uncle that does the exact same thing. Spews out talking point after talking point like a good little German, then when you question him about BushCo he says "I'm a libertarian." What a fucking cowardly puke.
OT:
may we sometime soon exchange the image of the pretty boy with the too-big nose and the aspiring mullet for something--anything--else?
Is that supposed to be the stereotypical effeminate sensitive liberal male, or what? He's kinda creepy if you ask me.
From the episode guide for "Name of the Game" at TV.com...
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 1:13 pm | #
Wow.
If I recall Sal Mineo played
her manager/road manager.
I also recall the fake rock music
was actually believable, which would
be astounding for a TV show back
then. I think Farrell actually
did her own singing, but I could
be hallucinating that.
She was a great actress and really
hot. If she's remembered at all,
it was as the mom in that killer
baby movie Larry Cohen did.
IT'S ALIVE was the title if memory
serves. With music by Bernard
Herrmann.......
That can take the relationship to a new level. My father and I never really got along all that well until I reached my twenties and then things started to improve rapidly. We didn't really fight or anything before. We just didn't seem to have anything in common. Now I think we're closer than ever.
Toonscribe
It's hard for parents to realize that they are not the parents of children anymore, but of adults. My older daughter is 27. I still find it hard not to cluck when she does something of which I disapprove.
They played that stuff so much I felt like Malcom McDowell in Clockwork Orange. I still want to jump out a window when ever I hear it.....
Sorry, blerb.
I love them with all the passion I can muster.
However, I had a similar experience with some folks who listened to REO Speedwagon, Kansas, and Journey. No can do.
what's the deal with the
Satellite Sisters replacing
Mike Malloy?
ugh, puke, are you kidding me.
what did malloy say that got him booted?
jello | 01.28.06 - 12:58 pm | #
it wasnt anything malloy said.
abcradio syndicate made WLIB an offer they "couldnt refuse"
(read into that what you will)
George O'Hanlon (Manager)
George O'Hanlon was the voice of George Jetson, btw.
The Sisters are kind of
lame. IMHO.
steve simels
of all people to replace malloy with.
i know alan colmes gets a lot of crap here, but he does a pretty good radio show. he's better when he has more room to maneuver than what he has to deal with on tv. he knows his shit. whenever wingnuts try to take something out of context, citing this senate report or that british report, colmes is quick to correct them. i used to tune in when my local air america would leave to cover soccer. colmes must have been too good (infuriating the wingnuts), cause he too has been dropped.
Ugh. I hate this nitpicking. Abramoff did not make personal contributions to re-election campaigns of Democrats. That is true. It is also true that in other ways he did direct money to Democrats.
The right is playing up the latter to an extreme, but it is also annoying as hell to see Dems acting so damn literal-minded.
I LIKE Journey.
The White Rose Society.
De nada steverino.
Spews out [Republican] talking point after talking point like a good little German, then when you question him about BushCo he says "I'm a libertarian."
We should have a "Libertarian arm" (only the converted bother with the pretense that it's a separate party) equivalent for the Democrats. The Libertarians share the exact same ideas but are less tied to the religious nuts (a result of their electoral non-viability; if they became a real part they'd get religious overnight).
I thought I was the only
person who loved that movie...
"The President's Analyst" is one of my all time faves. So. Fucking. Prescient.
My father and I first saw it on TV in the late 60s...
i know alan colmes gets a lot of crap here, but he does a pretty good radio show.
I wish just once he would punch Hannity in the mouth.
With all due respect, I really disliked Colmes' show. He may know his stuff, but I felt he was too deferential to the regime and presented his facts poorly.
I was looking at Zogby's site a couple of days ago and I saw they had a poll that said that the belief that abortion should be legal in most circumstances was down to 52% from like 10% higher than that in the '90s. I was pretty well stunned by that one, and severely dismayed. I don't know if this is just because the younger generation doesn't understand why abortion really needs to be legal or if the fundies are really gaining more converts. Either way, it is truly disheartening trend. It kind of shatters my ideas about social progress.
Ugh. I hate this nitpicking. Abramoff did not make personal contributions to re-election campaigns of Democrats. That is true. It is also true that in other ways he did direct money to Democrats.
and your proof for the RNC talking point would be what, troll?
Owls are too wise to be libertarians, especially given their well-known penchant for dropping owl pellets on Ayn Rand's grave.
It is also true that in other ways he did direct money to Democrats.
No, it isn't. He robbed people who donated from Democrats. Looming over all this is the K Street Project, an effort enthusiastically supported by Abramoff to eventually destroy the Democratic party by punishing lobbyists who did not become proprietarily Republican donors. Do not be deceived.
It is also true that in other ways he did direct money to Democrats.
explain this in detail, please. you can't get away with a generalized smear.
My father and I first saw it on TV in the late 60s...
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 1:24 pm | #
The girlfriend/spy chick is
possibly the quintessential 60s
mod babe.
Don't remember her name, and I
don't think she did anything else,
but she was so cute.
Bangs!!!!!!!
She was a great actress and really
hot.
According to imdb.com, she's now on the "Young and the Restless."
Ugh. I hate this nitpicking. Abramoff did not make personal contributions to re-election campaigns of Democrats. That is true. It is also true that in other ways he did direct money to Democrats.
The right is playing up the latter to an extreme, but it is also annoying as hell to see Dems acting so damn literal-minded.
cbb
The point is that Abramoff was, is, and will be, an extremely partisan Republican who's on record as having called for the destruction of the Democratic party.
When the news media starts framing the Abramoff scandal in those terms, rather than outright lying (Abramoff made contributions to Democrats) or simply dissembling (Abramoff directed money to both parties), I'll start being less militant about it. While it is true that Abramoff clients (if you can call them that) made donations to Democrats, it's not clear how many of those were made at his behest, and it is clear that groups that became his clients reduced their contributions to Democrats.
An honest observer would say "Abramoff directed money to Republicans and away from Democrats, although some of his clients continued to donate to Democrats anyway." Let me know if you ever hear anyone in the corporate media put in those terms.
Is that supposed to be the stereotypical effeminate sensitive liberal male, or what? He's kinda creepy if you ask me.
Dr. Wu
I thought the same thing.
Too girly!
Comes needs to get all POSTAL on Sean someday
just grab the fucker and start to slap jack shit outta the little nazi fuckwhistle...
According to imdb.com, she's now on the "Young and the Restless."
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 01.28.06 - 1:28 pm | #
Get out of town!
I'm gonna have to watch that now!
The president has heard the news about a blog commentor:
"I badly injured myself last night, leaving my whole face bloody--chin, forehead (especially), left eyebrow, nose in 3 places. I look like a car crash victim, though it was only my bedframe and carpet.
Draco | Email | 01.28.06 - 11:18 am |
and would like to point out that no one made drunk comments about him. So he wants everyone to apologise for making fun of him when he falls off his bike
NO!
Vicki |
I'm with my friend Vicki. We had to look at that dame with the ribbon around her neck for weeks, while the guys drooled and made comments about her being gay, and how much fun a threesome would be. Now it's our turn.
But I gotta say, he doesn't do it for me.
and would like to point out that no one made drunk comments about him. So he wants everyone to apologise for making fun of him when he falls off his bike
Snotty McClellan
Scotty, you're 'technically correct'
My mom passed away in January of 2002. She never, ever mentioned w with the appendage "rat fucker." In a way I'm really glad she's not around to see the damage. She was always a bit to my left, I'm proud to say, after 5 years of w, I'm probably to her left now.
ql in ny
I would have loved your mom.
Sounds like MY kinda gal!
I've got an 81 year old cousin and she hates Bush with a passion.
FDR New Deal Democrat.
It kind of shatters my ideas about social progress.
blerb - 1:26 pm
'progress' is an illusion...it's an ideological trick which pretends that change is teleological...
An honest observer would say "Abramoff directed money to Republicans and away from Democrats, although some of his clients continued to donate to Democrats anyway." Let me know if you ever hear anyone in the corporate media put in those terms.
An honest observer would also say that Abramoff's operations extended way outside the purview of the FEC database.
I've said it repeatedly: the FEC stuff is the table-setter. It establishes JackOff as a GOPerative. But the real story isn't about campaign contributions, but the network of bullshit charities and under-the-table quid pro quos, and the seamless links between the White House and Congress and those money-gathering enterprises.
The prosecutors will (one hopes) make all this clear, but the Dems can't afford to paint themselves into a corner by saying that only FEC-registered contributions are what matter. That lets far too many GOPpers off the hook.
Colmes needs to get all POSTAL on Sean someday
just grab the fucker and start to slap jack shit outta the little nazi fuckwhistle...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka
I would PAY to see THAT!
The College Repukes need to spend more time with their studies.
The reason they're Repukes is because they're so stupid and ignorant.
Terry C, Coldplayer
The College Republicans need to spend more time getting the shit kicked out of them by the jocks, anarchists, and one or two huge Samoan dudes on campus.
The College Republicans need to spend more time getting the shit kicked out of them by the jocks, anarchists, and one or two huge Samoan dudes on campus.
Buzz Bomb
I would PAY to see THAT, too!
Have you considered that, aluminized free anus?
have skunk
Wow. Internet threats and name calling. What, are you 8 years old or what?
illuminized freemason
AWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Pouuurrrrr Bway Beeeeee!
Did wittle twoll get called a namesy wamesy? Trolly wolly cry FOULY?
Seriously. It's gotten so bad among the survivors of Katrina that suicide is getting airtime segments, even on CNN. As an advocate of governmetn assisted suicide, you must consider that a viable option for yourself. It would beat taking a stand on saving our way of life from these chicken shit anal polyps you from whom you claim to disassociate yourself.
Seriously. It's gotten so bad among the survivors of Katrina that suicide is getting airtime segments, even on CNN.
There are still 3,200 people unaccounted for.
Not that Bush Co. gives a shit.
It is also true that in other ways he did direct money to Democrats.
BULLSHIT.
I demand proof, troll scum. Where are the emails, where are the memos to support this ridiculous Rethuglican assertion?
Fuck you, fascist shit. There is nothing to support this ridiculous assertion. Jackoff is a felonious scumbag. In other words, a run of the mill, everyday GOP operative.
but I felt he was too deferential to the regime and presented his facts poorly.
Sallyh, Madame Poissonniere
on radio? on tv he is too deferential. no argument there.
he had this one feature that was really unique where he would air callers, one after another, lickity split, allowing 10 seconds each, so that it made a weird stream-of-consciousness effect. it was funny and horrifying at the same time.
Yes, we need Malloy site linkie.
I couldn't believe AAR our of NYC this afternoon. There was an interesting environmental hour, primarily concerned with CA issues. Before that the lamish Satellite Sisters (which had been given WNYC time and did not garner many listeners). Now, it's some sort of sports talk show!!! Covering the Knicks sexual harrassment suit.
Okaaaaaaaaaay.
I was hoping to catch up on the weekday regulars, alas.
So when Lauer calls something "technically correct" in a way which implies it's somehow misleading he's full of shit.
He's just being glib.
Actually it was Katie Couric who made the assertion. Howard Dean just pointed out that she was wrong. Why do journalists find it so difficult to be "technically correct"? It is there job to be so.
It's completely beside the point whether former College Republican President Abramoff "did" or "didn't" direct some or a lot of money toward Democrats.
The point is, what was the money *for*? What did it *buy*?
The money sent to Republicans set up a slush fund, it was bribes, it illegally bought influence. That's why so many Republican congressmen are under investigation -- they broke the law!
No Democratic congressmen are under investigation, becasue they *didn't break the law*. They just accepted (some, a little, however much) lobbying money -- which may or may not be sleazy, but it isn't against the law.
The Today Show......PUKE, PUKE, PUKE, PUKEITY, PUKE.
Abramoff is about as republican as they come and would rather cut his nuts off than contribute to a Democrat.
Why doesn't anyone understand this simple fact?
He would NEVER KNOWINGLY GIVE MONEY TO A DEMOCRAT.
If a PAC he gave money to then turned around and supported both parties on a particular issue, it's not Abramoff money. It's the PAC's money.
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