what does the atmosphere smell like on Planet Cocktail Party? is it the same atmosphere found on Uranus? bet it is.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.28.06 - 1:36 pm | #
It's coming from
a newspaper, a traditional media outlet that is charged with reporting facts and news. Instead, they've decided to use their
pages to mount a political campaign against progressive bloggers, who they've apparently decided are their sworn enemy. It's
absolutely paranoid and ridiculous.
Boy, do I disagree with this.
steve simels |
01.28.06 - 1:37 pm | #
Stoplight Nosepicker Steve Elmendorf's GOTV:STFU strategy will be a surefire loser in '06.
"The bloggers and online donors represent an important resource for the party, but they are not representative of the majority you need to win elections," said Steve Elmendorf, a Democratic lobbyist who advised Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign. "The trick will be to harness their energy and their money without looking like you are a captive of the activist left." (01/28/06 WaPo / VandeHei)
(He's no doubt one of those hand-wringing 'Some Dems' Anonymice on VandeHei's speed dial, who are always complaining that Dems aren't being Republican enough.)
Peanut |
01.28.06 - 1:37 pm | #
i think VandeHei should be made into Vindaloo...
poppieprong (fka seaxneat fka |
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01.28.06 - 1:38 pm | #
(He's no doubt one of those hand-wringing 'Some Dems' Anonymice on VandeHei's speed dial, who are always complaining that Dems aren't being Republican enough.)
And that's where Dean needs to be pretty fucking tough on WATB Dem lobbyists. If you are a 'some Democrat' on VanDePissBoy's speed dial, then your pink slip is on the way by express courier.
pseudonymous in nc |
01.28.06 - 1:39 pm | #
what does the atmosphere smell like on Planet Cocktail Party? is it the same
atmosphere found on Uranus? bet it is.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari | 01.28.06 - 1:36 pm | #
Did you know that there's a great
unreleased Monkees track from their
glam period called "I'm Gonna
Shove My Venus Up Uranus"?
steve simels |
01.28.06 - 1:39 pm | #
So Vandheine's a wingnut-well,it's good to know who your enemies are.
Sweet Sue |
01.28.06 - 1:40 pm | #
Vicki's getting lucky today?
Hmm.......
Morning all.
And Atrios really needs a "Lifetime Achievement in Wankery" page.
flory |
01.28.06 - 1:40 pm | #
steve elmendorfer, the lobbyist for Fannie Mae, Verizon, and the Colaition For Fair Timber Imports, that lobbyist?
nothing like a loser (Gephardt's fixer) telling us what the party really needs.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.28.06 - 1:40 pm | #
"activist left?" Hmmmm. I'd consider myself a recovering centrist who had an awakening.
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01.28.06 - 1:40 pm | #
Too bad, Vandenhei actually did some halfway decent reporting on the Plame case.
ql in ny |
01.28.06 - 1:41 pm | #
what's so funny about saying "your innis?"
poppieprong (fka fka fka) |
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01.28.06 - 1:41 pm | #
You know, on the one hand I'm disgusted that what used to be a fine newspaper has sunk to this level.
On the other hand, I've got a deep and abiding sense of satisfaction that the wingnut "mainstream" seems so completely out of touch with the majority opinion, and so utterly misunderstands the nature of the blogosphere.
The WaPo's goes into total freakout over some blog comments. Today goes deer-in-the-headlights over the response to Katie Couric's whoring of the "bipartisan Abramoff" meme. Is it just me, or does it look like the corporate media is utterly unprepared for even the smallest bit of pushback? That's a promising sign that they're persuadable.
Dr. Wu |
01.28.06 - 1:42 pm | #
steve
didn't know that. will have to dig it up, that title sounds too delicious.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
01.28.06 - 1:42 pm | #
"activist left?" Hmmmm. I'd consider myself a recovering centrist who had an awakening.
the funny thing is that i always considered myself just slightly left of center. i certainly wasn't some molotov-swilling marxist or anything like that. either the country has moved to the right, or i've been pushed out of my comfort zone from the erosion of our constitution. or both.
poppieprong (fka fka fka) |
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01.28.06 - 1:42 pm | #
"activist left?" Hmmmm. I'd consider myself a recovering centrist who had an awakening.
have skunk
That's me. And they say it like people participating in their country's politics is a bad thing.
ql in ny |
01.28.06 - 1:43 pm | #
In every case, they have portrayed party leaders as gutless sellouts.
see Lauer, that is how to blow some rove-cock. divide them then mock their division. Bravo. here's a Cert.
focus |
01.28.06 - 1:43 pm | #
"The trick will be to harness their energy and their money...
Can you believe the sheer fucking cynicism of this statement?
Let's milk those bloggers for every nickel they've got -- and oh, yeah, make sure they're all out there for GOTV. But for fucks sake, don't pay any goddam attention to them. They're not the "real party" after all.
Jesus fucking christ on a matchstick. Will somebody just nuke all these fucking DLC assholes, please?
I really don't perceive that my own political views are ideologically more to the left than at any other time since the 1970s, and from a long-term historical perspective I have always been an essentially middle of the road Democrat. I very much liked McGovern, McCarthy, and Bobby Kennedy. I am proud to be in the same party as Russ Feingold and John Conyers. I once even voted for a Republican, Robert D. Ray, to be Governor of Iowa.
That means that by the VandeHei standard I am now a dangerously unhinged radical Jacobite.
Ba\'al |
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01.28.06 - 1:44 pm | #
Is it just me, or does it look like the corporate media is utterly unprepared for even the smallest bit of pushback? That's a promising sign that they're persuadable.
either that, or they're just paying closer attention to what LEFTISTS!!! have been saying for the past 5 years. cuz i can't imagine that the amount of feedback they're getting is all that different than what they are used to getting.
poppieprong (fka fka fka) |
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01.28.06 - 1:44 pm | #
I have nothing against the MSM -- if they would just do their fucking job!
Until then, yes, I will be shrill and point out that they are a conduit for GOP lies.
Toonscribe |
01.28.06 - 1:44 pm | #
"The trick will be to harness their energy and their money...
It's going to be a dark day at DLC headquarters when these assclowns realize who's holding the harness.
Dr. Wu |
01.28.06 - 1:44 pm | #
mmmm... I've got a date with Dateline...
poppieprong (fka fka fka) |
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01.28.06 - 1:45 pm | #
Via firedoglake: a one-day filibuster. Have Senate Dems in their own chamber while Chimpy is giving his SOTU.
Win-win. Empty seats as a protest of Bush's circumvention of Congress; no Sobby Mrs Sammy grinning in the front row.
pseudonymous in nc |
01.28.06 - 1:46 pm | #
"The trick will be to harness their energy and their money...
Can you believe the sheer fucking cynicism of this statement?
We insist that we're sick to fucking death of having smoke blown up our collective ass.
The MSM and DLCer's proceed to blow smoke up our collective ass.
We respond with outrage.
They respond to our outrage with surprise: "But the smoke we blew up your collective ass is such a pretty shade of purple!!! We thought you would appreciate it, seriously!!"
Jennifer |
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01.28.06 - 1:47 pm | #
Is it just me, or does it look like the corporate media is utterly unprepared for even the smallest bit of pushback?
Well, they're used to getting treated as Brent Bozo's beeyotches. They're so accustomed to it that they don't consider it pushback. It's business as usual.
Same applies to mAnn Coulter's death threats.
pseudonymous in nc |
01.28.06 - 1:47 pm | #
But that has been extended to the idea that authoritarian is better than authority. Because authoritarian means there's only one authority, and that authority has got to be the President, has got to be the government, and has got to be his allies. What the right-wing in the United States tries to do is undermine the press. They call the press "liberal," they call the press "biased," not necessarily because it is or because they have problems with the facts of the left—or even because of the bias for the left, because it's hard not to be biased in some way, everyone is always going to enter their editorial opinion—but because a press that has validity is a press that has authority. And as soon as there's any authority to what the press says, you question the authority of the government—it's like the existence of another authority. So that's another part of truthiness. Truthiness is "What I say is right, and [nothing] anyone else says could possibly be true." It's not only that I feel it to be true, but that I feel it to be true. There's not only an emotional quality, but there's a selfish quality.
i'll take an owl, man. better make it a double.
poppieprong (fka fka fka) |
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01.28.06 - 1:48 pm | #
Can you believe the sheer fucking cynicism of this statement?
Here's a suggestion to 'Some Democrats' in the lobbying trade:
Do not piss off Kos.
pseudonymous in nc |
01.28.06 - 1:48 pm | #
Is it just me, or does it look like the corporate media is utterly unprepared for even the smallest bit of pushback?
Not you. As Atrios said in the "Fine" post from last night -- these guys have never had to deal with the sheer volume of feedback that is standard in the blogosphere. What Atrios deals with every damn day, the WaPo considers a firestorm of catastrophic proportions.
As he said -- Welcome to our world, kids.
flory |
01.28.06 - 1:49 pm | #
JeffCO: the emphasis of that last bit Colbert said is important:
"It's not only that I feel it to be true, but that I feel it to be true. There's not only an emotional quality, but there's a selfish quality. "
pseudonymous in nc |
01.28.06 - 1:49 pm | #
Of course as Jerry Pournelle points out the real modern Jacobins are the neocons who imagine that "democracy" and "freedom" automatically follow liberation of populations long controlled by autocratic regimes...
kei & yuri |
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01.28.06 - 1:56 pm | #
Perhaps we are now all "sans-culottes'.
Literal translation 'without knee britches', originally a term used to describe the poorer members of the Third Estate during the French Revolution, later to the "extremists" of the revolution.
* Sans-culottes believed in the ideology that all men were equal.
* The sans-culotte were not opposed to the concept of private property, but did despise the indulgent wealth by the bourgoisie and the elite aristocrates.
* Food should be taken from big landowners and grain-merchants and to be given to small workshops.
* They called for a Republic based on Direct Democracy.
* They wanted a tax on the rich.
The depiction of the sans-culotte as a militant savage was commonplace in France at the time.
Ba'al |
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01.28.06 - 2:03 pm | #
The red Phrygian cap evolved into a symbol of freedom, the Liberty Cap.
It was held aloft on a Liberty Pole during the American Revolutionary War. It was also adopted during the French Revolution by the sans-culotte, and to this day the national emblem of France, Marianne, is shown wearing a Phrygian cap. It is also, interestingly enough, on the national emblem of Argentina.
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01.28.06 - 2:07 pm | #
"...but they are not representative of the majority you need to win elections," said Steve Elmendorf, a Democratic lobbyist who advised Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign. "The trick will be to harness their energy and their money without looking like you are a captive of the activist left."
Someone has already pointed thees out, I theenk eet was een los commentarios over at Deegby, yet, I feel led point eet out again...
Eef thees words are appended to jour name: a Democratic lobbyist who advised Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign.
then what joo rrreally need ees how-joo-say "a nice warm glass of shut-the-fuck-up".
Why is the WP declaring war on us? We're on their side. We, too, see print as the last bastion of journalism, which is why we're fighting so hard for them to print the truth in the Abramoff matter.
Where they have chosen to take a stand is just beyond comprehension. The right does everything to undermine journalism's legitimacy, so they rename Froomkin's column? They draw a line in the sand insisting Abramoff is bipartisan? This is how they demonstrate print's relevance?
Unlike the right, we believe in the importance of good journalism and want it to succeed. Stand up for truth instead of GOP narratives, and we'll stand behind you. Declare war on the blogs for demanding accuracy and accountability, and they have no one to blame for their demise but themselves.
Memekiller |
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01.28.06 - 3:25 pm | #
I hope that Keith Olbermann can see through VandeHei, as VandeHei would sometimes appear on Countdown. As someone said, even though VandeHei was reporting on the Plame story, it is like the fox guarding the henhouse.
Erroll |
01.28.06 - 4:42 pm | #
then what joo rrreally need ees how-joo-say "a nice warm glass of shut-the-fuck-up".
so.
¡El Gato Negro!
good to know.
say...weren't you on sabrina?
jello, anti-vichy |
01.28.06 - 4:52 pm | #
Party leaders are not the only ones who are being maligned and quoted out of context.
Dollars to a donut, the quote attributed to the newly installed governor of Virginia, which reads as follows, is totally out context.
"Blogs can take up a lot of time if you're on them. You can get a lot done if you're not bitterly partisan."
All rightie, but exactly what was the original question and what was Kaine's entire response?
Like the hacked job on the Post blog that deleted posts which were not obscene during the Deborah Howell outrage (I know, 'cause they deleted mine and I used no profanity), it seems to me that Republican mouthpieces would like nothing better than to split the cohisiveness of the Democratic party; and they are doing everything they can to bring their hopes to reality.
Let's face it, why would Kaine out the clear blue sky say blogs take up a lot of time? Could it be because someone asked him, "Governor, recently Sen. John Kerry posted on Daily Kos. Would you like to be a regular contributor on a radical left blog that trashes the president day, noon and night?
To which Kaine might have replied, "Blogs can take up a lot of time if you're on them. You can get a lot done if you're not bitterly partisan."
"Of course, there are an awful lot of good progressive blogs out there, and you shouldn't lump them all together."
Oh, if only I could've been al little fly on the wall!
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01.28.06 - 4:55 pm | #
Wanker of the Year: Atrios.
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01.28.06 - 6:38 pm | #