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Ragger!
Ragger again in my right name!
new thread, new assholes
Guess I should run downstairs and tell everybody...
"closed-lip"
"hush-hush"
"on the q.t."
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Ooohhhh....all clean and fresh and pretty......
Already soiled...
It's too late...
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ish...except for the trool splooge in the corner over there....
Cry me a river.
Should I blogwhore up here too?
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today is the first day of the rest of your life
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No balls, no brains, no service.
This has been a public service announcement for our troll neighbors.
I'm going night-night. Will someone tuck me in?
Sweet dreams.
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Fleischer added that he thought the lunch was "kind of weird" because the normally "closed-lip" Libby was sharing confidences and remarking that the information was "hush-hush" and "on the q.t."
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looks like Fitz has his eyes on the prize.
Cheney first, then Commander Codpiece. PDB's and the hand written annotations on them. all the presidents men, all over again. Fitz!
how sweet.
"today is the first day of the rest of your life"
No, tomorrow will be, this is just practice.
sallyh -
you know that pretty soon Sam will forget about Mommy the Abandoner.
I read in Science mag about 20 years ago that cats have a 6-month memory lifespan...
Lester Burnham:
Still jerkin' off in the shower?
troll has a short memory--we're the same assholes we were downstairs 
I'm going night-night. Will someone tuck me in?
Oh yes. And a light kiss on the cheek as I bring you a glass of water...
Still jerkin' off in the shower?
It's the high point of my day!
Walter, that reminded me, anyone see that Western Union has sent it's last telegram?
NTodd--don't know. You've indicated that the boy isn't exactly a rocket scientist.
I give him 3.
Walter, that reminded me, anyone see that Western Union has sent it's last telegram?
Yup.
NTodd: I read in Science mag about 20 years ago that cats have a 6-month memory lifespan...
Really? Wow. I better spring for that 4GB memory upgrade for Curly, then!
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for those in the Eastern Tornado Zone, colbert coming up next on Conan.
just saying
KittyRAM!
NTodd--don't know. You've indicated that the boy isn't exactly a rocket scientist.
I give him 3.
Well, yeah, I think the study included average cats, not savants like Sam.
Opps... let me rephrase
That reminded me Stop Anyone see that Wstrn Union has sent its last telegrm stop
Hey...
Bikini clad women sitting around Saddam-shaped pools, yo!
I'm in!
remarking that the information was "hush-hush" and "on the q.t."
Okay, so he saw 'LA Confidential.'
I better spring for that 4GB memory upgrade for Curly, then!
Not worth it. They can only address the lower 640k because of OS constraints...
maybe ari fleischer really is the New Deep Throat?
I'm cleared for LA Top Secret...but only on a "need to know" basis
Candygram!
Hey, Walt, you never mentioned you were almost in "Sunset Blvd!"
Montgomery Clift, signed to play the part of Joe Gillis, broke his contract just two weeks prior to the start of shooting. Billy Wilder quickly offered the role to Fred MacMurray, who turned it down because he didn't want to play a gigolo. Marlon Brando was considered, but the producers thought he was too much of an unknown as a film actor. Gene Kelly was then approached, but MGM refused to loan him out. Reluctantly, Wilder met with William Holden, whose films to that time had not impressed Wilder. They eventually worked together on several films and became longtime friends.
Good thing you got all that money from "My Three Sons"!
"SEISEIEHSISISEEEIE"
NTodd
Cats are only 286's and single taskers?
Everybody, please consider reading this. A vet with PTSD wrote it and killed himself shortly afterwards.
Cats are only 286's and single taskers?
Evolution works in mysterious ways.
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"Cats are only 286's and single taskers?
Evolution works in mysterious ways.
NTodd, "
But that means they can address more than 640K, page memory eh?
Wow, it is has been long enough that I am not sure if that is the right terminology now.
Cats have very little RAM, from what I've observed. It appears that most of their circuitry is hardwired.
64K of RAM should be enough for anybody.
64K of RAM should be enough for anybody.
As long as you've got a 10MB hard drive.
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Are cats little endian or big endian?
RIP, Douglas Barber.
Heh. Have you guys seen this?
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...02/
amazing.html
Wingers on parade in the NY gubnatorial campaign.
Wait it is slowly coming back. EMM, Page Frames, bank switching and HMA.
Okay I had to look it up again.
owls again
"As long as you've got a 10MB hard drive."
That will last you forever, nobody has that much data.
Cats have very little RAM, from what I've observed. It appears that most of their circuitry is hardwired.
Same with threadbots and owls.
Are cats little endian or big endian?
Let's not start a civil war. Although clearly one must always break open your hard boiled bits on the big end...
Cats have very little RAM, from what I've observed. It appears that most of their circuitry is hardwired.
Oh, I don't know.
My late cat Zachary was afraid of getting hit by an ice cube his entire life. Once, and only once, I dropped an ice cube in the kitchen and hit him (which I'm sure hurt. A lot) For the rest of his life, anytime I opened the refrigerator he'd skedaddle.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari: ..-. / / / ... ???
4LG
One of ours, Sarah is like that with toy balls. She played her heart out with them. She was excellent at snatching them out of mid-air when I would toss them to her. One day, a slightly hard one beaned her on the nose. If I toss one now, she leaves. Mice in mid-air, that is okay.
the owls are screeching
I don't know about the supposed 6 month memory life on a cat. I've gone back to visit friends in citys where I used to live, and the same cat remembered the way we use to interact, including one cat called snake, who roughhoused with me and no one else.
Felinical Furmware is always an interesting topic.
I read in Science mag about 20 years ago that cats have a 6-month memory lifespan...
NTodd
They presume, when you do not return, that you have probably been eaten by predators. That they give you 6 months indicates an admirable level of optimmism.
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Low-quality oil shale is handled recently by a Shell official at the Mahogany research project in Rio Blanco County near Rifle.
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By Gargi Chakrabarty, Rocky Mountain News
September 20, 2005
Eight U.S. companies have filed applications with the federal government to lease land in Colorado for oil-shale development, a sign that oil producers again are ready to gamble some 23 years after the last boom went bust.
The U.S. Bureau of Land Management, the arm of the Interior Department that manages federal lands, has received 10 drilling applications, including three from Shell and one each from Exxon Mobil and Chevron. The companies want to develop technologies to extract oil from shale on 160-acre federal tracts in Rio Blanco County in northwestern Colorado.
The government said it will tread carefully, since it doesn't want to repeat the oil shale boom-and-bust cycles of the 1970s and 1980s that almost devastated the Western Slope's economy.
But with crude oil above $66 a barrel at the close of trading Tuesday, oil shale is a promising alternative to crude. The Green River shale deposits in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming are estimated to contain 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil, and while not all of it can be recovered, half that amount is nearly triple the proven oil reserves of Saudi Arabia.
Many residents of western Colorado still remember "Black Sunday," or May 2, 1982, when oil giant Exxon (now Exxon Mobil) announced the closure of its $5 billion Colony shale project in Garfield County and laid off 2,200 workers.
A team of BLM and state officials will review the applications, with a final decision by February 2006.
"We had an oil shale program in 1973-74. There was a spurt of development then, but the economic viability of the technology was not adequately established, and communities in the Western Slope were affected in a negative way," said Heather Feeney, BLM spokeswoman in Washington, D.C. "We are trying to learn lessons from that. This time, we are taking a phased approach."
Feeney said the team would evaluate the lease applications to determine if the companies would be able to advance shale technologies and reduce impact on the environment and local communities.
A successful company - with a viable technology - also would have the option of leasing an additional 4,960 acres in the next 10 years.
Meanwhile, the recently passed Energy Policy Act of 2005 requires the BLM to begin leasing tracts for commercial shale production by August 2007, after it completes an environmental impact study in the previous six months.
Environmental activists have denounced the government's move as too rash, given that a viable technology has yet to be established and the Western Slope already has witnessed the perils of shale hype. Even U.S. Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo., has expressed concern about the pace of shale development in his state.
"The lessons we learned in Colorado in the 1980s and other booms is . . . it is a difficult challenge to be able to develop oil from oil shale," Salazar said when the energy bill passed in August.
A year after Black Sunday, property foreclosures in Grand Junction and Mesa County were more than four times their 1980 numbers, and bankruptcies had doubled.
"That project was initially driven by high global price expectations based on projected oil shortages in the early 1980s and beyond," said Exxon Mobil spokesman Len D'Eramo from Houston. "When global oil prices dropped, and oil price expectations dropped even further, the Colony oil shale technology was no longer economically viable.
"The current BLM program favors a phased approach to developing oil shale extraction technologies."
Exxon Mobil, Shell and Chevron are among six companies that will develop an in-situ technology to extract shale oil, Feeney said. Two other companies - Natural Soda Inc. and Kennecott Exploration Co. - will use a traditional process in which shale is mined, crushed and then heated in giant ovens called retorts to extract the oil.
Shell is a pioneer of the in-situ process, in which it drills holes and inserts heaters in target underground zones to slowly heat the shale layers.
Once the shale is sufficiently heated, a chemical reaction starts and releases the lighter hydrocarbons, which rise. The heavier hydrocarbons remain within the formation. The lighter hydrocarbons, almost a gasolinelike product, are subsequently pumped from the ground through conventional means.
The advantage to in-situ is that it eliminates the problem of waste disposal and enables higher recovery of oil, Terry O'Connor, Shell's vice president of external and regulatory affairs, has said.
For at least the past five years, at Shell's 20,000-acre Cathedral Bluffs property in Rio Blanco County, the company has been testing its patented method of burying heaters encased in pipe hundreds of feet underground, then liquefying the oil trapped in porous rock so it can be pumped to the surface.
O'Connor said earlier this year Shell hoped to have a commercially viable operation in the area by 2010.
Seeking alternatives
• Eight companies have submitted applications to the BLM to mine for oil shale on federal land in Colorado:
Natural Soda
EGL Resources
Exxon Mobil Corp.
Kennecott Exploration Co.
Independent Energy Partners
Phoenix Wyoming
Chevron Shale Oil Co.
Shell Frontier Oil and Gas (three applications submitted)
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Environmentalists, others rip BLM oil-shale plan
By Greg Griffin
Denver Post Staff Writer
Environmentalists and other Coloradans with long memories criticized a government effort to revive oil-shale production on the Western Slope during a meeting in the Denver area Thursday, as industry representatives generally stayed quiet.
"There's no indication today that oil shale is any more economically viable than it was on Sunday, May 2, 1982," when Exxon closed its oil-shale project near Parachute, laying off 2,200 workers, said Kevin Markey, who lives near Lyons.
Markey and others warned that the oil-shale industry took a heavy toll on Colorado's environment and economy, and said they see little reason to believe a new round of exploration will be different.
"Even the staunchest advocates of oil-shale development ... acknowledge that the development of a strategic-scale oil- shale industry will have dramatic impacts on the human environment," said Joseph Santarella, an attorney for the Rocky Mountain Environmental Labor Coalition.
The U.S. Bureau of Land Management is soliciting public comments until Jan. 31 on its effort to open to commercial extraction oil-shale deposits in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming within two years. Two meetings in Golden on Thursday followed meetings in Rifle on Wednesday. The BLM is rushing to complete its environmental-impact statement by summer 2007.
About 70 people attended the afternoon meeting in Golden, including a few from the oil industry.
"We're just gathering information," an energy-company representative said after the meeting. He declined to identify himself or his employer. Of the issues raised at the meeting,
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he said, "There is a lot of concern, and a lot of opportunity."
With gasoline prices rising, extracting oil from sedimentary deposits, a process that ultimately proved too complex and expensive in the shale boom and bust of the 1970s and early 1980s, is again attractive for energy producers.
Estimates of recoverable oil in Colorado's Piceance Basin near Rifle alone total 1.2 trillion barrels, of a total of 2 trillion barrels of reserves in the state, BLM solid-minerals specialist Jim Edwards said.
"Colorado has the thickest, richest and most barrels of shale oil," Edwards said.
But those who experienced the boom and bust remained skeptical at Thursday's meeting. John Rold of Lakewood, a former federal geologist, said the economics and politics of oil shale remain a bit of a mystery for oil companies and the government, and that Edwards' reserve estimates are too high.
"I've often said that oil shale is at least five years around the corner," he said, "and I've been proven right for the last 40 years."
Staff writer Greg Griffin can be reached at 303-820-1241 or ggriffin@denverpost.com .
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Congressman's mom held heritage dear
By Claire Martin
Denver Post Staff Writer
Adeline Tancredo, mother of Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo, prized her Italian culinary heritage. (Tancredo family)
Adeline Lombardi Tancredo, who died Tuesday at age 92, took pride in being the "Americanized" daughter of Italian immigrants, with a patriotism that helped shape the famous nativist tone of son Tom Tancredo's political career.
She was the middle child of three daughters born to immigrants who resettled in Denver after leaving San Miguel in Abruzzo, Italy. She relished the bounty of her native country and kept a firm embrace on the Italian culture she inherited.
At age 16, she walked from her West Denver home to her job as a sales clerk at Joslins Department store in downtown Denver, earning $1 a day. She remained at Joslins for 45 years, always tidily garbed in a dress or skirt, with her red hair carefully coiffed.
At home, Tancredo kept the strict culinary tenets instilled by her mother. She eschewed American convenience foods and preferred Italian specialty shops to supermarkets.
Even after she became too elderly to do her own shopping, she gave her children and grandchildren exacting directions about which North Denver butchers, bakers and cheesemongers to patronize.
"We went all over North Denver to get the ingredients for her Easter pie," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Littleton. "We had to get the sausage at Belfiore and get the cheese somewhere else. She gave us not just the directions on how to make it but where to get the ham, the sausage and the ricotta cheese. Lots and lots of ricotta cheese."
A strict Catholic, she annually gave up chocolate for Lent. Otherwise, whenever someone gave the Tancredos a box of Russell Stover candy, she routinely pilfered a few to hide from her husband, who otherwise easily devoured a pound or more in less than two days.
Adeline
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Tancredo expressed doubt when Tom Tancredo decided to use her Sunday spaghetti-sauce recipe on the campaign fliers marking his 1976 debut in politics. She worried that "it was a little too ethnic," he said.
Her ultimate acquiescence marked a departure for a woman accustomed to getting her way by inducing guilt in a deceptively meek guise.
Adeline Tancredo and her husband, Gerald, routinely stumped for their son's legislative and congressional campaigns. Adeline Tancredo's strategy relied more on emotion than on logic.
Admitting she knew little of statecraft, she fell back on the guileless antiphon invoked by countless Italian-American mothers.
"I don't know about politics, but he's a good boy," she would say.
Her service will be held at 10 a.m. Friday at St. Joan of Arc Catholic Church, 12735 W. 58th Ave. in Arvada, followed by entombment at Crown Hill cemetery.
Survivors include sons Jerry Tancredo of Lakewood, and Ralph Tancredo and Tom Tancredo, both of Littleton; sisters Rose Franks and Eleanor Galterio, both of Arvada; 10 grandchildren; 17 great-grandchildren; and four great-great-grandchildren.
Staff writer Claire Martin can be reached at 303-820-1477 or cmartin@denverpost.com .
http://www.denverpost.com/obitua...ries/
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Shale Oil News
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Vision for meeting energy needs beyond oil
Jeroen van der Veer, Financial Times
Shell CEO is confident that enough investment will ensure that new extraction technology, LNG, oil shale, and more new technology, will provide enough green fossil fuels; no numbers included.
first published January 26, 2006.
Oil shale may be fool's gold
Randy Udall and Steve Andrews, Denver Post
Buried underground in western Colorado are a trillion tons of oil shale. For a century, men have tried and tried again to unlock this energy source. But the rocks have proved stubborn, promising much, delivering little.
first published December 19, 2005.
The Illusive Bonanza: Oil Shale in Colorado
James R. Udall, Steven B Andrews, internet
Why oil shale is unlikely to become a major supplier of liquid fuels.
first published December 5, 2005.
Other energy - Nov 12
Staff, Energy Bulletin
UK buys into next generation of nuclear power / New Internationalist issue on nuclear power / Ethanol is the future for public transport / The cultural roots of UK's energy gap / Green fuel plan 'will destroy rainforests' / Will Canadian oil sands save the USA? / Cleaning up coal: new, cleaner technologies / Oil shale shows promise; towns have seen it before
first published November 12, 2005.
Depletion
Byron W. King, Agora Publishing Co., Whiskey & Gunpowder
After you discover oil, you can only produce it out of the ground one time... You have depleted the pores of the rocks, emptying them of the oil and gas that were formerly contained within. There is no "inflation" when it comes to the supply of oil. There is only depletion.
first published October 8, 2005.
Other Energy Headlines - 17 September, 2005
Staff, Energy Bulletin
US Oil shale - 20 years before reach 1mil/b/day / At Time of Epic Storms, Oil Industry Thinks Anew / US Dept Interior says onshore damage 'major hindrance' to Gulf oil recovery / Matt Simmons steps down as CEO of Simmons & Co. International
first published September 17, 2005.
Other Energy Headlines - 26 August, 2005
Staff, Energy Bulletin
A Question Of Shale / Canadians Gear Up for Protest against Natural Gas Projects in Maine / Underground Coal-Gasification, Coal-to-Liquids Project in Australia / New chips lower PC power use
first published August 26, 2005.
Turning tar sands into oil
Thomas J. Quinn, Cleveland Plain Dealer
Huge, tarlike deposits in Canada and Venezuela will be critical over the next 50 years to the supply of liquid fuels as the world's production of easily pumped oil plummets. Yet, turning this nonconventional oil source into synthetic oil is not likely to be the solution to our energy crisis, as some claim. Canada is no Saudi Arabia.
first published July 22, 2005.
Oil: Caveat empty
Alfred J. Cavallo, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Without any press conferences, grand announcements, or hyperbolic advertising campaigns, the Exxon Mobil Corporation, one of the world's largest publicly owned petroleum companies, has quietly joined the ranks of those who are predicting an impending plateau in non-OPEC oil production. Their report, The Outlook for Energy: A 2030 View, forecasts a peak in just five years.
first published May 25, 2005.
Survey of Energy Resources: Oil Shale
Walter Youngquist, World Energy Council
A background briefing on the vast scale of oil shale resources but the problems producing oil from them. Youngquist writes, 'The term "oil shale" is a misnomer. It does not contain oil nor is it commonly shale.'
first published April 24, 2005.
US: Caution warranted on oil shale
DP Editorial, Denver Post
With crude-oil prices inching toward $60 a barrel earlier this month, renewed talk of tapping Colorado's vast oil-shale resources wasn't surprising. This time, federal lawmakers are wisely urging caution in possible shale development to avoid the dislocations of the frenetic oil-shale boom and bust of the early 1980s.
first published April 18, 2005.
Staring down the barrel of a crisis
Trevor Sykes, Australian Financial Review
The world's oil production may be about to reach its peak - forever. Such apocalyptic prophecies often surface in the middle of the northern hemisphere winter. What is unusual is that this time the doomsday scenario has gained serious credibility among respected analysts and commentators.
first published January 15, 2005.
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Solution...........go daddy...
1) Caught up in the tree by your parachute, simply press fire to
cut yourself free. Once on the ground, immediately walk right and exit
the area. You don't have to kill anybody.
2) Take a couple of steps into the screen and then somersault
over the bowman and his arrow. Alternatively, you could shoot him but
this takes more time. Leave to the right.
3) Stop as soon as you enter the screen. Wait until the bird has
swooped, then jump your way to the other side of the screen. This way,
the deadly plants won't harm you.
4) Take one stride into the screen. Shoot the snake that emerges
from the tree then point your gun at the floor. Shoot the three snakes
that sneak through the fauna.
5) Shoot the armoured guardian of the bridge twice in the head.
When his sword falls to the ground, walk along the bridge. You must
somersault off the end of the screen.
6) Stand completely still. A large bird will swoop close by, but
it won't actually harm you if you remain motionless. Once it has
passed, walk to the end of the screen.
7) Here, you have the option of either shooting the unfriendly
natives or somersaulting over them. Both are equally effective and
allow you to progress onwards.
Draw your gun immediately and shoot the monkey directly ahead.
Next, concentrate on disposing of the natives. Once this is done,
press on into the next screen.
9) Shoot the tribesmen who insist on giving you a hard time. Fire
a volley of bullets and walk onto the next screen uring them as a
shield to protect you against further attacks.
10) When the panther bounds towards you, kneel and shoot it
quickly. Once it's defeated, pull the mounted lever, collect the gold,
and return to the doorway that is three screens back.
11) Reach the ground and face to the left. As soon as the hot
cinder disintegrates, jump across the large gap and climb down the
ladder onto the next playing area.
12) Leap quickly off the platform to the right. Turn left and
then jump. Turn and face right, then very quickly jump up onto the
rope. Climb down to reach new locations.
13) Swing across the ropes to the one on the far right. Don't
worry about the bat as it will not become aggressive unless you
approach it. Climb down to the next screen.
14) Travel left, walking off the ledge that you landed on when
you fell from the rope. That bat will not move. You will now land on
another ledge on the playing area below.
15) Tread on the bridge then retrait. the bridge will fall into
place on the screen below. Climb down the ladder, jump across, knock
the key and collect it. Continue down the ladder.
16) The bats on the left will fly away. Leap across the flames
and grab hold of the rope. When the remaining bat moves, climb down,
grab the other rope, and descend.
17) Get onto the ledge, turn right,
...............Many visitors are unaware that San Quentin housed women prisoners until 1934. Prison labor was used in building roads and they supported the war effort by building metal submarine nets and weaving cargo netting. There is a model of a prison cell, a miniature of the gas chamber, and artifacts from the original gallows and The Dungeon, known as The Hole.
Before you leave stop in at the museum store which offers T-shirts, mugs, and books. In particular, Cooking with Conviction is a cookbook compiled by the Kairos religious group in support of their ministry. At the gate stop in at the store which sells art objects made by inmates.
The prison cemetery was used until 1952. Unaccessible now, it rests on the hill above the prison marked by a grove of Eucalyptus trees. You cannot see it from below where law enforcement officers now have a rifle range.
Details: Visit takes about an hour. Wheelchair accessible. The museum is on prison property through the main gate on the right. Check with the guard before walking through. Cameras are not allowed inside the gate.
Hours: Call ahead to check. M-F 10-4, Sat 11:45-3:15, Sun closed at this time.
Getting There by Public Transportation: Golden Gate Transit Route 40 runs everyday. Every 30 minutes M-F during commute hours. Once an hour during the midday. Every 90 minutes on weekends. From downtown San Rafael Transportation Center (Heatherton between 2nd and 3rd) get off at Main Street San Quentin. From East Bay coming from the El Cerrito Del Norte BART Station get off at Marin Rod & Gun Club and walk under freeway to Main Street San Quentin. Call GGT San Francisco: 415/923-2000, Main: 415/455-2000, Sonoma: 707/541-2000.
Getting There by Car: From the South take 101, Sir Francis Drake Bl exit to San Quentin, pass the back gate, get on Hwy 17 heading East, take next exit which is the last exit before the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge. From the North take 101 to Hwy 17, get off at Main Street exit. From the East Bay take 580 to Hwy 17 West over Richmond-San Rafael Bridge, take first exit (San Quentin, turn left under freeway. Then follow Main Street to the main gate of San Quentin (Post Office is on the right), turn left into the parking lot for visitors.
Admission: Ages 12-55 $2.00, Seniors, students with ID, State employees $1.00 http://emporium.turnpike.net/
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Things to Do
ALBANY BOWL
540 San Pablo Avenue
Albany, CA 94706
510-526-8818
Fax: 510-526-9584
This 36 lane center is celebrating 57 years in business. It features Tierney's Sports Bar with 4-45 In. TVs, fish tank, Thai Restaurant, billiard hall and lots of parking. The perfect spot for a corporate event and family fun. Bowl opens 9:00am; closes 2:00am every day. Open 365 days a year. Cafe open daily. Breakfast, lunch and dinner Mon-Sun 9:00am-11:00pm. M/C and VISA.
ALBATROSS PUB
1822 San Pablo Avenue
Berkeley, CA 94710
510-843-2473
Berkeley's oldest pub features an outstanding selection of foreign & domestic beers and spirits, six dart lanes, live music, art gallery, fireplace, board games and a comfortable conversational environment. Hours: Sun-Tue 6:00pm-2:00am, Wed-Sat 4:30pm-2:00am. Wed 9:00pm music free; Sat 9:30, $3.00.
Comfortable conversational environment.
BERKELEY HISTORY CENTER
1931 Center Street
Berkeley, CA 94704
510-848-0181
The Berkeley Historical Society celebrates the diversity of its' people by keeping Berkeley's history a part of our lives. The History Center contains space for exhibitions, library, and archives.
GOLDEN GATE FIELDS (ALBANY)
1100 Eastshore Highway
Berkeley, CA 94706
510-559-7300
Golden Gate Fields is where the 'Bay Comes to Play' offering live thoroughbred horse racing in a spectacular setting. Located just off the I-80 at the Gilman Street exit, Golden Gate Fields offers live rracing every Wed. through Sun. during the Spring meet (Feb. 8 through May 7) and the Fall meet (Aug. 24 through Oct. 15). First race is 12:45pm. For more information and Turb Club dining reservations, call (510) 559-7300.
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Memorable Quotes from
Little Big Man (1970 )
Old Lodge Skins : Invisible! I've never been invisible before!
Louise Pendrake : Well, Jack. Now you know. This is a house of ill fame. And I'm a fallen flower. This life is not only wicked and sinful. It isn't even any fun.
Jack Crabb : Do you hate them? Do you hate the White man now?
Old Lodge Skins : Do you see this fine thing? Do you admire the humanity of it? Because the human beings, my son, they believe everything is alive. Not only man and animals. But also water, earth, stone. And also the things from them... like that hair. The man from whom this hair came, he's bald on the other side, because I now own his scalp! That is the way things are. But the white man, they believe EVERYTHING is dead. Stone, earth, animals. And people! Even their own people! If things keep trying to live, white man will rub them out. That is the difference.
Jack Crabb : Mr. Merriwhether, you don't know when you're licked!
Allardyce T. Merriwhether : Licked? I'm not licked. I'm tarred and feathered, that's all.
General Custer : You came up here to kill me, didn't you? And you lost your nerve. Well, I was correct. In a sense, you are a renegade, but you are no Cheyenne Brave. Do I hang you? I think not. Get out of here.
Jack Crabb : You're not going to hang me.
General Custer : Your miserable life is not worth the reversal of a Custer decision.
Old Lodge Skins : Don't worry my son, you will be back with us, I dreamed it last night. I saw you with your wives
Jack Crabb : Wives, Grandfather?
Old Lodge Skins : Yes, there were three... or four, it was hard to tell. It was very dark in your teepee and they were under buffalo rugs as you crawled among them. Anyway, it was a great copulation.
Jack Crabb : Grandfather, I have a white wife.
Old Lodge Skins : You do? That's interesting. Does she cook and does she work hard.
Jack Crabb : Yes, Grandfather.
Old Lodge Skins : That surprises me. Does she show pleasant enthusiasm when you mount her?
Jack Crabb : Well sure, Grandfather.
Old Lodge Skins : That surprises me even more. I tried one of them once, but she didn't show any enthusiasm at all.
Jack Crabb : General, you go down there.
General Custer : You're advising me to go into the Coulee?
Jack Crabb : Yes sir.
General Custer : There are no Indians there, I suppose.
Jack Crabb : I didn't say that. There are thousands of Indians down there. And when they get done with you, there won't be nothing left but a greasy stain. This ain't the Washite River, General, and them ain't helpless women and children waiting for you. They're Cheyenne brave, and Sioux. You go down there, General, if you've got the nerve.
General Custer : Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner. You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really *don't* want me to go down there!
Younger Bear : I have a wife. And four horses.
Jack Crabb : I have a horse... and four wives.
General Custer : Nothing in this world is more surprising than the attack without mercy!
Old Lodge Skins : Today is a good day to die.
Old Lodge Skins : There is an endless supply of white men. There has always been a limited number of human beings.
[Grandfather, who has laid himself down to die, wakes up ]
Grandfather : Am I still in this world?
Jack Crabb : Yes, Grandfather.
Grandfather : [ groans ] I was afraid of that. Well, sometimes the magic works, sometimes it does not.
Old Lodge Skins : Does she show pleasant enthusiasm when you mount her?
Jack Crabb : [ voiceover ] He believed that he needed one more victory over the Indians to be nominated for President of the United States. That is a true historical fact.
General Custer : A Custer decision impetuous? GRANT called me impetuous, too, the drunkard, sitting there in the White House, calling ME impetuous!
Jack Crabb : Might I ask who I are addressin'?
Wild Bill Hickock : Name's Hickok. Wild Bill Hickok.
Jack Crabb : Oh, uh, pleased to make your acquaintance, Mr. Hickok.
Old Lodge Skins : This boy is no longer a boy. He's a brave. He is little in body, but his heart is big. His name shall be "Little Big Man."
[Sunshine has brought her widow sisters ]
Sunshine : It is very sad. They have no husbands and they cry...............
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quotes.
Goofs: Anachronisms: Following the movie time line, Jack Crabbe should have been rescued from the Indians around 1865. When he enters his gunfighter period around 1866, Jack is carrying two 1873 Colt Peacemakers while Hickock's pistol is an 1882 Colt.(OO)...
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PLANTS TOXIC TO CATS
Plants That Are Toxic For Cats
.... from the TCA Newsletter, November 1996. This lists the plants in each category alphabetically by their Latin Name ; common names are also included.
The Traditional Cat Association
http://www.tcainc.org/
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Plants and Your Cat
.... from The Cat Fanciers' Association. A comprehensive list in easy-to-read columns. Plants are listed in alphabetical order by common (English) name.
List compiled by: Jeffrey D. Rakes / Reprinted from PET Magazine's Cat Care Guide, Summer 1987
http://www.cfainc.org/articles/p...les/
plants.html
Potentially Hazardous Plants
This list includes many plants which may be poisonous or hazardous to your pets.
Sue Pounds, DVM
http://dcn.davis.ca.us/vme/DrSue...e/
poisplnt.html
Common Toxic Plants
Joanne Ezard's list groups the plants by SYMPTOMS with their common (English) name.
Canadian Animal Network
http://pawprints.com/zoo/cats/FI...TCAT/
poison.htm
Toxic Plant DataBase
Select a plant by either Common Name or Scientific Name to obtain a description of that plant and a representative plant image.
Vet Med Library, UIUC
http://www.library.uiuc.edu/vex/...oxic/
format.htm
CORNELL UNIVERSITY POISONOUS PLANTS PAGE
Includes: Alphabetical listing of botanical names by genus and species (with plant images), suggestions for diagnosis and prevention of poisoning of animals by plants. Links to additional sites.
Animal Science at Cornell University
http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/
Pets & Plants: Things to Know
Lists plants which can be poisonous to animals; includes which part(s) of the plant may be harmful; provides descriptions of some common ornamental potted plants (in case you don't know WHAT the plant is); descriptions of symptoms; list includes sections on bulbs and outdoor plants; seeds or pits containing cyanide and other toxic vegetation.
Pets Connection [archived copy]
http://web.archive.org/web/19970.../
petsplant.html
The Toxicity of Plants
This alphabetical list of some of the more common plants, flowers, shrubs and trees provides a numerical code so you can easily determine whether or not a particular plant is poisonous to humans and/or animals, and to what specific degree. Botanical names are included, also.
University of California, Davis, Medical Center, Regional Poison Control Center
http://wellness.ucdavis.edu/
safe..._of_plants.html
GUIDE TO POISONOUS AND TOXIC PLANTS
Listing of poisonous house, garden, ornamental, and wild plants; phone numbers are provided for Regional Poison Control Centers (provided by the US Army Cente...........................http://amby.com/
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Mineral and Energy Exploitation
The extraction and processing of minerals and fossil fuels have had widespread environmental consequences. Mining, drilling, smelting, refining, and other technologies associated with the extraction and exploitation of minerals and fossil fuels produce toxic by-products that can be released into the environment and transported long distances. Mineral and energy extraction activities also physically disrupt habitats and ecosystems.
Table 1. Chemical names, common names, and acronyms of compounds mentioned in text.
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Econbrowser: Oil shale retort
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September 27, 2005
Oil shale retort
A number of observers have been pointing to oil shale as the solution to all our energy problems. If oil shale does turn out to be the resource of the future, then our problems are only beginning.
Instapundit sees a "plan to put Middle East oil producers out of business" in this story from the Rocky Mountain News:
[W]ith crude oil above $66 a barrel at the close of trading [on Sept. 20], oil shale is a promising alternative to crude. The Green River shale deposits in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming are estimated to contain 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil, and while not all of it can be recovered, half that amount is nearly triple the proven oil reserves of Saudi Arabia.
Other influential voices sharing Glenn's enthusiasm include Austin Bay ,GOP Bloggers ,Polipundit , and Econopundit .
American oil companies abandoned oil shale demonstration facilities in the 1980's on the grounds that production was not economically viable . More recently, an oil shale demonstration plant in Queensland, Australia produced 700,000 barrels of oil between 2001 and 2003 , and oil shale remains a major energy source for Estonia . At President Bush's direction and with encouragement from this summer's Energy Bill , the Bureau of Land Management sought applications from companies for small-scale research, development, and demonstration projects, for which 18 companies have applied.
"Oil shale" typically is not shale and does not contain oil , but rather is a rock known as marl containing organic compounds like kerogen. When heated to high temperatures (referred to as "retorting"), one can obtain an oil-like substance from the rock which can be refined to produce a transportation fuel. Bubba of Belly of the Beast , who worked for two years on attempted commercialization of oil shale, describes the process this way:
If you heat this shale to 700 degrees F you will turn this organic carbon (kerogen) into the nastiest, stinkiest, gooiest, pile of oil-like crap that you can imagine. Then if you send it through the gnarliest oil refinery on the planet you can make this s*** into transportation fuel. In the mean time you have created all kinds of nasty byproducts, have polluted the air and groundwater of wherever you have extracted it.
The fact that large quantities of heat are required to obtain a usable fuel from the rock means that this is a far less efficient source of energy than conventional oil. Shell claims it can produce 3.5 units of energy for every unit input, though one wonders whether the energy content of all the inputs is taken into account in such figures. The lower this ratio, the more the cost of producing oil from shale would rise as energy prices go up. Another implication of the high energy needs for processing is that significantly more greenhouse gases are released per barrel of usable fuel produced. Concerns about greenhouse emissions appear to have been the basis on which Greenpeace succeeded in closing down the Australian demonstration plant.
Queensland oil shale mine
The rock expands in size upon heating, meaning you can't put it back in the ground, and it is carcinogenic .Two metric tons of rock are required to obtain a barrel of synthetic crude. Mark in Mexico (hat tip: Ace ) spells out the logistical problems that this raises:
Try to imagine the hole a 33,400,000,000,000 tonne excavation would make. Hello, China. Try to imagine the mountain of waste rock (carcinogenic) because the rock expands, kind of like popcorn, when it is heated to remove the kerogen, so more has to go back than is removed. Hello, Icarus. Try to imagine the poisons produced by the processing of all that shale if it is done above ground, or all the dead fish if it is done in situ. Hello, King of the Wasteland-- the Ayatollah of rock-'n-rolla.
Three barrels of water are needed per barrel of oil produced, and it is not clear how current users of that water might be persuaded to surrender its use for oil shale.
Shell is working on an in situ retorting technology, in which the rock could be heated without being removed from the mountain. They claim to be able to produce oil at a cost of $30 per barrel, and in situ processing should reduce the environmental, energy, and water costs.
Stuart Staniford at the Oil Drum noted another problem with relying on oil shale to replace conventional oil resources-- we may need such replacement very quickly, and it will take a considerable amount of time to develop this resource. A recent Rand study concluded it will be at least 12 years before oil shale reaches the production growth phase. And that is a technological assessment, not a reference to the environmental review process. If it takes 15 years to get an oil refinery built and approved, despite well known technology and well understood environmental issues, viewing oil shale as something that could make major contributions to world energy supplies in the immediate future seems highly unrealistic.
Despite these misgivings, I believe that the applications that BLM has received for oil shale demonstration projects should be approved and pursued aggressively. Given these lead times, we certainly need to be developing the ability to exploit this resource, if need be. Bad as this option is, I'm not certain that we have anything better. But unlike the enthusiastic supporters of oil shale, my hope is that we never have to rely on it.
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I'm old enough to remember when the Canadian tar sands were going to be our salvation in the 1970s.
If the real price of oil is still lower then it was in 1980 why should shale be more of a savior then it was 25 years ago.
It is amazing how so much of what I am hearing now is a repeat of what I heard 25 years ago................http://www.econbrowser.com/
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Did blogger eat the cats?
Mmm. The other white meat.
Um, am I experiencing a timewarp?
Saturday seems to have left.
Gad, we are back to Friday again.
Was all the sleeping I did last night just a dream?
In case anyone is reading, Todays blog entries are not showing up. Yes, have cleared cache, tried a different browser, same results.
I dreamed the post disappeared and took all you guys with it and, after I killed the scroll troll, I was all alone with annieangel...
"Gad, we are back to Friday again. "
Obviously Mr. Black is far more powerful than we ever realized. Could come in handy.
So is this were someone yells "Old Sheets!"
There's some new Saturday threads that now show.
Just saw that Doug. Who is brave enough to live Saturday over again?
Just saw that Doug. Who is brave enough to live Saturday over again?
Let's do the time warp again.
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