I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
YO datz shiiiit
Dumbassity beyond compare.
Whiskey Science? Now what am I supposed to do?
when will NASA stop hiding all their research on Intelligent Design? I mean, really....
Hola, never trust anyone under thirty or anyone in the Bush administration.
Contrary to popular wingnut opinion, there is no evidence to suggest that Bush administration policies are a result of intelligent design.
Buncha retards. It is neither science nor religion; it is pure politics.
Wanker of the Week: Marshall Wittman.
So, has CNN offered Deutsch his own show yet? Has the WaPo interviewed him to take over as ombudsman? If not, they probably just haven't been able to schedule it yet.
BTW, I'm pretty sure Deutsch is pronounced as "douche".
Bush thinks "cosmology" is the science of making cosmopolitans.
Holy shit. Just holy shit.
I mean, I always knew that actual expertise wasn't a valued commodity in this Administration, but this is freakin' crazy.
Dear Jeebus.
For every 24 yr old fundie employed by the gummit there is a corresponding shitload of $$$ contributed to the party by the usual suspects.
Mr. Douche needs an asskicking.
The Big Bang memo came from Mr. Deutsch, a 24-year-old presidential appointee in the press office at NASA headquarters whose résumé says he was an intern in the "war room" of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign.
This guy thinks the "big bang" is what he gets from the new boner on the block.
Dire consequences are what the rest of us are going to pay for this bit of censorship
24 year old Gooper = Frat boy one year out of college.
whiskeyina
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About freakin' time those bunwads got busted for screwing up science in this country.
It's nice to see newspapers actually reporting something, but even nicer when we get the details from someplace.
Science is not about the corporate bottom line.
kei & yuri
Link to your story
Woman's Arm Severed In Car Accident
http://www.wlextv.com/Global/sto...y.asp?
S=4449021
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It could be worse. The Bushies could have inexperienced young Republicans, who just post on-line resumes, be placed in positions of power in the multi-Bliion$ rebuilding of Iraq.
What's that? Oh crap!
What a bunch of fuckbags.
A 2003 journalism graduate of Texas A&M, he was also the public-affairs officer who sought more control over Dr. Hansen's public statements.
Which one of the twins is he nailing?
Can we find out if he was the dark-haired boy in the room with the family on Election Night 04?
fucking outrageous
You know it's bad when something like this is normal operating procedure. Worst administration ever.....
Bush thinks "cosmology" is the science of making cosmopolitans.
watertiger - - 3:41 pm
betcha big bucks he thinks it's about hair and makeup...
The Taliban was also made up mostly of young go-getters.
Deutsch...that name means something to me. Is he the son of somebody GOP-ish?
Hurray for Dr. Griffin, may he avoid small planes.
Scienciness, actually.
Let us revisit the 3rd International...
Is there any depth to which these scumwads won't sink? They have effectively politicized every single level of government. I can't wait til they implement their tax policy based on party affiliation.
I, for one, welcome our adolescent overlords.
The Taliban was also made up mostly of young go-getters.
R.McGeddon - 3:46 pm
so were the SA in Germany, in the 20s and 30s
Um, it's *not* the place of NASA to talk about the origin of the universe?
Mayberry Machiavellians
Well, at least Brownie is older than 24. Competent, not so much.
That a fucking 24 year old is arrogant enough to tell a scientist what he can say is way beyond incompetence. It is criminal negligence. It is truly mind boggling. And of course the fucker is refusing to answer any questions. probably hiding underneath his desk, sucking his thumb, crying for his mommy.
Really, words just can't justify how fucked up this whole thing is.
Deutsch...that name means something to me. Is he the son of somebody GOP-ish?
curiouser
Ex CIA head guy.
Caught with classified stuff on his home non secure computer.
.
Um, it's *not* the place of NASA to talk about the origin of the universe?
Halfdan - 3:48 pm
of course not...they're supposed to talk about shuttles and satellites
and MARS, beyotches...
Has the WaPo interviewed him to take over as ombudsman? If not, they probably just haven't been able to schedule it yet."
i think he'd be great as the science editor at the nyt's!
Lysenkoism In the USA!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Jesus H. Christ in a chicken
basket.
I'm finding it increasingly
difficult to recognize the
country I'm living in...
Well, at least Brownie is older than 24. Competent, not so much.
And Condi's in her fifties, Rummy well past seventy, Cheney about sixty-five....
Unironic headline from the rapidly declining Washington Post (new motto: Racing CNN to the bottom!!)
"Science Moves to Center Stage
Bush's Fascination With Technology Is More Evident"
By a gomer named Peter Baker
O-kay, that's it.
Where do I go to take down the little pissant?
"It is not NASA's place, nor should it be to make a declaration such as this about the existence of the universe that discounts intelligent design by a creator."
Yeah, you scientists, stop doing all that sciency stuff and make more Tang(tm)!
jee-zus-christ. I hope these snot-nosed lil' ideological dumbshits really appreciate it when China and India build the first Moon colony and we're busy trying to figure out how to rebuild those "plane" things that we used to fly around in.
Who is this young man who is so wise in the ways of science?
Next they'll be telling us it's not the job of the NIH to tell us to use condoms.
Bush thinks "cosmology" is the science of making cosmopolitans.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 02.04.06 - 3:41 pm | #
I've said it before, but I'll
say it again....
I'm not worthy!
"Who is this young man who is so wise in the ways of science?"
:LOL:
You just know Mr. Deutsch was copying boilerplate from p. 23 of the Karl Rove Talking Points Guidebook, Christian Fundamentalism Vs. Science chapter, which reads:
"This is more than a _______ issue, it is a religious issue. And I would hate to think that young people would only be getting one-half of this debate from ________. That would mean we had failed to properly educate the very people who rely on us for factual information the most."
The "we" is just too much arrogant Borg-speak for a 24 y.o., journalamism major or no.
The scientists should all quit. Let Pat Robertson design the next angel-powered rocket.
BTW, I saw a story the other day that one of our astronauts had to hitch a ride with the Russians to get to the ISS.
Didn't we used to have, like, a space program of our own or something? With rockets and all?
Um, it's *not* the place of NASA to talk about the origin of the universe? -- Halfdan
No. Just like it's not FEMA's job to coordinate disaster relief or EPA's job to assess air quality.
Where do I go to take down the little pissant?
GWPDA,
Pissant. Wonderful. Fits him to a tee. Much better than fucker.
I would hate to think that young people would only be getting one-half of this debate from NASA.
He shoulda stopped after the fifth word.
That young man should fuck right off.
Lysenko was right, just once, with soviet winter wheat...
he drew the wrong conclusions from his experiments, but the experiments did improve (actrually doubled) the supplies of winter wheat during the siege of Stalingrad...
he was also justly famed for his plan to loose poultry in the grain fields to eradicate an insect pest that threatened the Ukraine harvest in '42...
he was a hortoculturist, mainly...
Bush new science initiative:
Earth is flat
Rain is tears of God
Thunder is God moving his funiture
Oil is a renewable energy source
Earth is only 10,000 years old...
of course not...they're supposed to talk about shuttles and satellites
And telescopes that look back in time to the Big Bang
:LOL:
jdw
Lower case
And Bush thinks "Big Bang" is what happens when women get pregnant.
Where do I go to take down the little pissant?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar, damn, I thought at first glance this was written by WGG or barndog. Now I'm scared when 104 year olds are ready to get into fisticuff.
Its not gravity, its Intelligent Falling.
When do we start teaching college students about the "Green Cheese" theory of lunar formation?
Equal time, y'know.
The scientists should all quit. Let Pat Robertson design the next angel-powered rocket.
Lime Rickey
Actually, a lot of them have.
In October 2005, Mr. Deutsch sent an e-mail message to Flint Wild, a NASA contractor working on a set of Web presentations about Einstein for middle-school students. The message said the word "theory" needed to be added after every mention of the Big Bang.
I've got a theory: all conservatives are complete stupid fucking assholes.
But of course we're not living
in a fascist dictatorship because
(as the Little SociopathTM has
informed us) Bush hasn't locked
up Michael Moore yet.
"Where do I go to take down the little pissant?
GWPDA,"
I've got a relative who works at nasa. Now, you'd think that the engineers would march down to this fuckstick's office and beat him senseless with their sliderules.
However, it truns out that a lot of them are fucking whackjob chimpco fundies that supported the chimp in 200 and 2004.
They get what they desrve, imo.
"Who is this young man who is so wise in the ways of science?"
"Tell me again, Mr. Deutsch, how you use sheep's bladders to predict earthquakes?"
The scientists should all quit. Let Pat Robertson design the next angel-powered rocket.
Sure, he'll pray the payload into orbit.
"Lower case"
Science!
But can the Super Bowl claim to be "live" if there's a five second tape delay?
Oh, for god's sake.
It seems like the wingnuts are training the next generation of suckcessors for dumbya. It is the power and the money that they are interested in... not what good they can do.
And Bush thinks "Big Bang" is what happens when women get pregnant.
With his daughters, it was just a Little Whimper.
Hey, how many comments are there? My counter says only ten.
The lunatics are in charge of the asylum (& Bedlam is now the Imperial War Musuem) -- is it too early to start drinking yet (& what happened to all my posats on earlier threads?)
Oh, for god's sake.
Exactly.
I hate these people.
I've got a theory: all conservatives are complete stupid fucking assholes.
NTodd, Land Shark
It's not a theory, it's a fact.
You can look it up.
"Who is this young man who is so wise in the ways of science?"
"Tell me again, Mr. Deutsch, how you use sheep's bladders to predict earthquakes?"
DUBYA! I WANT YOU TO FIND THE HOLY GRAIL! IT'S IN IRAQ!
AND STOP AVERTING YOUR EYES, YOU STUPID FUCKING WORM.
aiiiiy!!! idiots.
Obviously this kid was not taught the scientific method. A theory is not a hypthesis.
I think their political strategy is to drive the us insane with their stupidity.
mena --
The comment counter ALWAYS lies -- part of the charm of haloscan
Oh, for god's sake.
Exactly.
==
Exactly.
I'm not even going to tell my nearly 17 year old daughter about this. She gets so pissed off when she hears about the unscientific dumassery this administration spews that I'm afraid she's going to have a stroke before she gets her driver's license.
And this is a kid who has gone to Catholic grammar school and is going to a Catholic high school, but she knows her science.
E = JC squared
Einstein, pffft
George Deutsch's tel. # is (202) 358-1324
His email is:george.deutsch-1@nasa.gov
Paging Thomas Dolby
hypothesis! Hypothesis!
Oh, for god's sake.
Yes, exactly. The young man's god can't protect itself from the scary scientist in scene 36.
However, it truns out that a lot of them are fucking whackjob chimpco fundies that supported the chimp in 200 and 2004.
They get what they desrve, imo.
jdw - 3:55 pm
Los Alamos is the only 'red' county in the NM 3rd Cong. Dist...
it is also the county with the highest average annual income of any in the country, according to recent analyses i've seen...
fucking shitheels!
AND STOP AVERTING YOUR EYES, YOU STUPID FUCKING WORM.
Down in BVI, I said that every night the sun set behind a cloud - "Arrrrrrr-thuuuur!"
The comment counter ALWAYS lies -- part of the charm of haloscan
Must've been designed by Diebold.
Did you know that there's no word for "science" in Newspeak?
You know, at least the fuckin Original Flavor Nazis did SCIENCE when they weren't busy slaughtering people. Remember Peenemunde? Werner Von Braun?
These guys, on the other hand, are looking ever more like Stalinists and Lysenkoists and who the fuck cares if the masses starve to death as long as our science matches Dear Leader's ideology.
Oh, and by the way, how exactly does someone who's working for NASA have the right to talk about a religious issue? Does he have the faintest clue about what the agency does? Hint, Mr. Deutsch: read the charter; there's no religion involved. You want to teach people about your religion, volunteer at Sunday School. Don't do it through NASA.
"Obviously this kid was not taught the scientific method. A theory is not a hypthesis"
Would they care?
There is the core to all of this, they have a machine built on those who see one way and only one way. They do not think, do not want to think for if they do, they will have to analyze and suddenly begin seeing the cracks.
Damn it just dawned on me that a new code phrase is in place.
It used to be people said "What you are thinking is wrong". But then that fell out of favor.
I have had several people lately tell me when discussing politics, god, science and other topics that I "Think too much".
Same thing. Just said differently.
george.deutsch-1@nasa.gov
gotsa a ba in journalism from Texas A&M...
whoa, baby!
They hadda drop two classes recently at the Texas Aggie demonstration school...
yup
Driver's ed and sex ed...
the mule died...
Hey NASA guys, I understand China needs astrophysicists:
http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/main_e.asp
Don't need ya here anymore!
I hear the Baptist Church is doing wonderful work in high-energy physics.
Well Mr Deutsch,
See if you can get to the moon on a copy of the Bible, you stupid little shit.
I fucking hate these morons.
Not that it will help these folks:
http://www.apa.org/journals/feat.../
psp7761121.pdf
This may be part of a bigger campaign against NASA.
From Rush and Ann Coulter's love child, Michael Graham
Imagine what FEMA would be like if it had a $100-billion budget, really cool uniforms and the power to blow things up on national television. Congratulations—you just invented NASA.
NASA is FEMA with rockets. Who in the world would want to give them $104 billion?
So why are we going back to the moon today? Well, according to NASA, one reason is to "scour the moon for water, hydrogen and ice" that could be used on a future mission to Mars. That's right: $100 billion to look for water. On the moon.
Look, I'm no scientist. And normally I'd be the first to say, "Hey, who am I to question these scientists?" But we're not talking about scientists. We're talking about government employees.
Couldn't we just put everyone at NASA on welfare? It would cost less and nobody would get hurt.
Then again, math has never been NASA's strong suit. For example, there have been 114 shuttle flights, and two of them have blown up. However, NASA claims that the existing failure rate of the space shuttle program is just 1-in-220.
114 flights. Two failures. Do the math.
Unless you work for NASA, in which case you should ask someone to do the math for you.
However, it truns out that a lot of them are fucking whackjob chimpco fundies that supported the chimp in 200 and 2004.
The feel I get from people that work at NASA, or that are contractors for NASA, is, they vote for whomever is going to keep the money coming for NASA.
While some may be fundies, my feeling is they vote with their pocketbooks (and keeping their jobs). IIRC DeLay has kept the money flowing, and a small part of his district is close to NASA.
Same thing. Just said differently.
I've taken to telling fundies "You're way too afraid."
Not that it will help.
THAT IS SOO DEPRESSING.
Documenting douchbaggery. How quaint. Now if someone would actually give a shit.
(besides us)
And this is a kid who has gone to Catholic grammar school and is going to a Catholic high school, but she knows her science.
Not unrelated, perhaps.
Down in BVI, I said that every night the sun set behind a cloud - "Arrrrrrr-thuuuur!"
watertiger
Ah, ma chere, did you see what's up at the Westminster National Championships? Freestyle dancing! It's not too late to register, ma chere, you, me, the tango.....
i signed the concerned scientists list long ago
You know, one of the only reasons to use switchgrass and other biofuels is the notion that we use plants' absorption of carbon dioxide to offset emissions.
(At least, that's the theory.)
Oh...I forgot...the new biofuel direction wasn't meant literally--and muzzling NASA is further proof.
I would rather think and be wrong than to have never thought at all.
heh.
And from irregular times we get this from the pissant
George Deutsch, a public affairs officer for NASA, told Dr. Hansen that he could not talk to anyone at National Public Radio because NPR was part of the liberal media. Deutsch told one of Dr. Hansen’s colleagues, Leslie McCarthy, that it was his job to make the president look good. Of course, that’s not what any public affairs officer of the federal government is hired to do. They are hired to serve the American people by telling them the truth about what the government knows, not to serve the political agenda of the President.
shouldn't this deluded punk be writing the Baptismal notices for the next generation of christian-manimals?
I "Think too much".
EkCenTriK, I've heard this comment also.
Computer Science? Just set up a blog 'cause I realize that nobody could see the ones on my band myspace page. And we're thousands of threads from "daughters", alas.
Daughter blogging:
http://whiskeyina.blogspot.com/
I guess we have to pray our way to Mars.
Yes , I too have been informed that I think too much.
So last week, my 'supervisor' asked me to tell her something personal about myself. Taken aback, and having been adjured not to think so much, all I could come up with was 4Ls' magnificent paen to Arthur. My doggie had his own fan club.... 'Is he some kind of a champion'? No. No....
I think my supervisor wishes I'd stuck to thinking.
Fred Phelps will be heading up the Jet Propulsion Labs next month.
"While some may be fundies, my feeling is they vote with their pocketbooks (and keeping their jobs). IIRC DeLay has kept the money flowing, and a small part of his district is close to NASA.
chris/tx"
it seems to me that nasa funding is a political football that both sides like to beat around. every turn of the budget calls for cuts, then a senator or a rep comes in like a white knight vowing to 'save' nasa such-and-such, and usually does. the intent was never *really* there to cut the jobs, just to make someone look like a hero by 'saving' it.
but where my contact was working, the fundies campaigned hard for bush, in blatent violation of rules against political advocacy at the agency.
You know, one of the only reasons to use switchgrass and other biofuels is the notion that we use plants' absorption of carbon dioxide to offset emissions.
(Uncle Smokes | Email | Homepage | 02.04.06 - 4:07 pm | #
it doesn't reduce co2. it's released again when you burn the biofuel. it does get one from point a to b.
Deutsch told one of Dr. Hansen’s colleagues, Leslie McCarthy, that it was his job to make the president look good.
==
Honest to fucking god!
I wish I could see past the damage these people are doing. Put it in perspective. I am afraid sometimes I can't see how we repair this, how we can talk to one another after we remove them from power, assuming that's even going to happen.
doug
I am running into it when the debate is getting good, the evidence is plain to see and they have no way out.
Another thing happening is the refusal to have a discussion. The formerly strident who have seen every cotton picking thing this administration they supported fail and grandly now dive away swiftly from any meaningful conversation.
Cowards, unimaginative, covetous little cowards.
Mr. Deutsch was told the scientists would welcome him with open arms; with flowers expressing gratitude for their liberation.
Oh...I forgot...the new biofuel direction wasn't meant literally--and muzzling NASA is further proof."
we need to run our vehicles on faith...
Fred Phelps will be heading up the Jet Propulsion Labs next month.
They are going to harness all the methane jet propulsing from his mouth.
I heard the Evangelicals have gone into the brain surgery bidness, myself.
whiskeyina, after seeing your pictures of your daughters, I now know why you wanted to share this.
Here's a little gem from Mr. Deutsch's college days. Not sure why it's sitting on Gwen Ifill's server. Read it before it's scrubbed:
COLUMN: Rumsfeld not to blame for actions of a few soldiers
By George Deutsch
The Battalion (Texas A&M U.)
06/02/2004
(U-WIRE) COLLEGE STATION, Texas — A great lie has permeated the international media — including news agencies here in the United States — and it is a lie that, if left unchecked, threatens to destroy the seeds of democracy America is dilligently planting in Iraq. This lie asserts that at the core of the prison abuse scandal in Abu Ghraib lies a structural mandate reaching as high up as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to conduct interrogations through psychological torture, humiliation and sexual perversion.
In reality, nothing could be further from the truth.
[snip]
Lieberman is right. America cannot continue to allow political correctness and the increasingly negative opinions of the international community to overshadow the good it is doing in Iraq — building democracy.
[snip]
The Bush administration has done the right thing by instituting its own investigation into the abuse scandal and fully disclosing what it knows about soldier misconduct. These soldiers must be punished for their crimes, and the U.S. military court-martial system will take care of that. The healing has begun, and it is time for all of America to unite and move forward.
"Fred Phelps will be heading up the Jet Propulsion Labs next month.
watertiger"
Protesting aborted missions?
doug, EK - anyone who would say such a thing in an argument should be shamed and humiliated for being a public ass.
Amigos, the next time someone tells joo that joo "theenk too much"...
Just say to them:
"Well, someone has to make up for all the chingandos estupidos inútil idiotas cabrones like jourself, no? Joo should be thanking me, wankerrr!
...and then bathe jourself at them, dismissively.
so.
NYMary! You're so fast! I was still scrolling to check if the link worked and you've already been there and commented! Thanks for visiting. Let me know if you'd like to inherit the outfits!
By the way, are there any Aurthur fan club T-shirts out there?
What's this little twit's salary. George Bush and his crew are patently insane to do this.
This story evokes images from China's cultural revolution. Young Chinese lecturing their older peers about right and wrong.
Protesting aborted missions?
"No fags in space!"
THAT IS SOO DEPRESSING.
kei & yuri - 4:05 pm
i know you know: you ain't seen nuttin yet...
they've got three more years of uninterruptible access to the infrastructure of democracy...
if there's to be a fucking shred of it preserved, we need to be in the streets with pitchforks and torches...
tip and torch a few hummers here and there...
trash a mcdonalds, and a walmart...
sure folks'd get shot...
but, whether ya wanna believe it or not, that's what it's gonna take...
Fred Phelps will be heading up the Jet Propulsion Labs next month.
What will Pat Robertson head? Dobson?
Fred Phelps will be heading up the Jet Propulsion Labs next month.
watertiger
Somehow, this seems like an ok fit - he generates enough seeringly ignorant hatred to fuel some kind of something.
"No fags in space!"
Faaaaaaags innnnnn Spaaaaaaace!
These dipshits are going to take us right back to pre-1957. And I don't think we'll like the nasty Sputnik-like suprise that'll wake us out of our slumber this time, not that I know what it might be.
"Lieberman is right."
I'm sure Lieberman got goose bumps from this endorsement
Thanks doug. I am really lucky--they are amazing people.
There are certain times when you think, "If they are so wrong about this, how can they be right about anything?"
This is one of those times.
Fred Phelps will be heading up the Jet Propulsion Labs next month.
watertiger
==
Well, he would make a good missile.
uhh, actually we were late to the monty python reference section...
I liked America better when it was land of the free. The latest iteration, land of fat fucking imbeciles, not so much.
And don't get me started on the fact that NASA's been reduced to a courier service for the fucking Pentagon, allowed out every now and then to do a Reasonably Priced scientific thingy.
I am afraid sometimes I can't see how we repair this, how we can talk to one another after we remove them from power, assuming that's even going to happen.
mena - 4:12 pm
this is what i mean when i assert and insist that their REAL mission is to alienate the people from the sources of their own power and the institutions and instruments by which they may exercise this power...
.
Isn't the Big Bang Theory how the rockets go up to space? I mean, like, there's a big bang? And the rocket goes up real fast?
Stupid fucking Aggies.
JeffCO,
I ran across that Rumsfeld piece also. What's weird is it is dated 2004, and Deutsch was supposed to have graduated in 2003.
"There are certain times when you think, "If they are so wrong about this, how can they be right about anything?"
This is one of those times."
For me, this is one of those "bang my head against the wall in frustration times that people can't see what the hells going on" times. This administartion gives me about seven such moments a day. And today's Saturday.
THE DEATH OF THREE GREAT AMERICANS
Coretta Scott King
Betty Friedan
Al Lewis
In October 2005, Mr. Deutsch sent an e-mail message to Flint Wild, a NASA contractor working on a set of Web presentations about Einstein for middle-school students. The message said the word "theory" needed to be added after every mention of the Big Bang.
did 'flint wild' have beatnik parents?
Somehow, this seems like an ok fit - he generates enough seeringly ignorant hatred to fuel some kind of something.
We can hope the foul odour he produces causes a launch pad explosion.
One interesting bit of science history trivia is the origin of JPL. Some of the founders would cause modern fundies would have brain hemroids if they knew what guys like Jack Parsons were like.
quick note; if you are curious about this Jack Parsons is where you should start searching from.
Woody - you think it's all about making a buck off of sowing discord then?
Here's more from Texas A&M's The Battalion. It's clear where Mr. Deutsch's credentials came from. In addition to his wingnuttery, he's also a hack writer.
Commission findings don't contradict Bush
Bush administration never asserted an Iraq-al-Qaida link to Sept. 11 attacks
By: George Deutsch
Issue date: 6/23/04 Section: Opinion
Many of those following the 9-11 Commission hearings in the media have come away woefully misinformed. Newspaper headlines and published reports have misled some into thinking that the commission has found no link between Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime and al-Qaida.
[snip]
But, in reality, Saddam and al-Qaida were linked, and have been since the early 1990s. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and the members of the 9-11 Commission all agree on this point. So, what gives? Why has the liberal media - which Cheney has repeatedly labeled "irresponsible" in it's reporting on commission findings - denied Iraq-al-Qaida ties?
The unfortunate but not-at-all-surprising answer is partisan politics.
[snip]
So, the ties between al-Qaida and Iraq are there, it's simply a question of whether these ties extend to the attacks on Sept. 11. When asked on "Meet the Press" recently about a direct Iraqi link to Sept. 11, Cheney responded simply, "We don't know."
But what this nation does know is that Saddam's Iraqi regime and the al-Qaida terrorist group stood for the same things: murder, destruction and power at all costs. The war in Iraq, just like the toppling of the Taliban and the continued hunt for members of al-Qaida, is wholly justified. No amount of partisan bickering or misleading reporting can change that.
Those who died on Sept. 11 did not die in vain.
BTW, anyone know how much it'd cost to have Michael Graham have a unfortunate inconveniencing accident which would keep him from writing for the next, say, ten years or so?
Grandpa Munster died??!?!?!!
Last time I saw him he grabbed Beth Littleford's ass on a Daily Show story.
"Lieberman is rightwing."
Fixed yer typo.
Betty Friedan
damn, i missed that
she was a hero...
Can anyone find a picture of this dweeb?
I am afraid sometimes I can't see how we repair this, how we can talk to one another after we remove them from power, assuming that's even going to happen.
I'm afraid that regardless of which party is in power, this new culture will be the reality from now on. By 2008 we're going to have a lot of 30-35 year olds who won't know any other way to run a bureaucracy.
What will Pat Robertson head? Dobson?
NTodd, Land Shark
Department of Killin'-Prayers & Alchemy and Commissioner of Wheel Technology
Jeez,
The last time I was this worried was when Watergate was going on and my Con Law professor said it was possible that the military would support Nixon in his grab of all power in the country.
O.T. - Bigot Alert Central.... Detroit, Super Bowl XL
Beware the haters come Monday... for Warren Moon has just been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Nevermind he threw for almost 50,000 yds in the NFL, but counting his CFL time, over 70,000 yards.
He is most qualified to join the ranks of the elite of the game.
Those who died on Sept. 11 did not die in vain.
God almighty, this sentence is such window into the little pissant's thinking. God's mysterious plan to lead America back to the crusades, so End Times could come!!
Holy Ned Flanders.
What will Pat Robertson head? Dobson?
Los Alamos and the Mayo Clinic, respectively.
what guys like Jack Parsons were like
Jack Parsons - genius, rocket scientist, follower of Aliester Crowley (who felt Jack was never disciplined enough).
Yeah, it'd give dumbasses like Mr. Deutsch the yellow shits to find out about one of the most important people in the early space program.
NTodd, i am trying to leave a comment on your blog, are you have the same troubles as atrios today???
Woody - you think it's all about making a buck off of sowing discord then?
mena - 4:21 pm
no, i think it's a fucking corpoRat coup d'etat...money's nice, but it's about power...they want to drive the people into the 'embrace' of unmitigated corpoRat politics: destroy all regulations, and foster the unrestrained fascism of the 'marketplace.'
WGG
Good take on it. They have created a cultural wall that is going to be tough to climb over.
One thing that can help is that whoever takes over when they are gone must start a full process of investigation and disclosure. If they decide to be polite and let bygones be bygones, it will always be there ready to boil up again.
Warren Moon has just been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Blacks cannot be QBs, let alone HoF QBs. It's just the liberals who would like to see them succeed...
Last I heard Bush wasn't going to have the Hubble serviced. Is that still the case?
The arrogance of these people is unending.
Our favorite story about Jack Parsons -- and there are disturbingly many -- was where he conspired with Lafayette Ron Hubbard (yes, that Lafayette Ron Hubbard) to use sex magick to open an apocalyptic doorway into the spirit world (ie, jack off ritualistically, with Ron taking notes, to bring about the end of the world). Later Ron screwed Parsons by taking all his money, so Parsons cursed him, and the curse worked, and Ron had to apologize and make nice.
Beware the haters come Monday
I'm available to hate on Reggie White, if there's a need for that.
Has anyone done an analysis to see if NYT and WaPo articles critical of the Bush Administration have a statistically significant tendency to come out on Saturdays?
It seems like whenever we finally see honest reporting of the truth about how this administration operates, it shows up in a Saturday paper, which supposedly is a low-readership day.
It's the print version of the Friday dump.
... whoever takes over when they are gone must start a full process of investigation and disclosure. If they decide to be polite and let bygones be bygones, it will always be there ready to boil up again. ~ EkCenTriK
Eef the next President ees no a Democrat, all thees sheet weel go on weethout stopping.
so.
Grandpa Al Lewis:
Just two years short of his 90th birthday, a ponytailed Lewis ran as the Green Party candidate against incumbent Gov. George Pataki. Lewis campaigned against draconian drug laws and the death penalty, while going to court in a losing battle to have his name appear on the ballot as "Grandpa Al Lewis."
He didn't defeat Pataki, but managed to collect more 52,000 votes.
A year later, he was back offering his recollections of a seminal punk band on the DVD "Ramones Raw."
Mr. Deutsch is an arrogant little shit who needs his ass kicked.
But only to enhance his understanding of physics.
it doesn't reduce co2. it's released again when you burn the biofuel. it does get one from point a to b.
moi
Yeah, that's why I added that parenthetical "theory" remark.
It didn't make sense to me, unless we have vast fields given over to switchgrass, land that developers would rather have for the next ex-ex-urban migration (of course, made possible by those lovely fossil-fuel burning cars).
You just can't win, I guess.
Maybe we should muzzle NASA, because we have no intent of changing the profitable lifestyle of the last 100 years. These scientists are just causing trouble, making us worry about the inevitable and affecting consumer confidence.
Let's go drive to the mall. Crossroads bookstore is having a sale on Left Behind books.
I believe Reggie White was elected also this time.
I'm not sure, but I can find out and get back to you with that.
Don't forget Mr. Parsons' "Element of Fire" wife.
There are some in the magick community who are sure that his fucking around with Fire is what led to him blowing himself up with a chemical he should have known how to be careful with.
no, i think it's a fucking corpoRat coup d'etat
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Well, I can't disagree with that. But I don't know about totally unrestrained fascism of the marketplace. They seem pretty happy to have a gov't. around to bail them out when they fuck up.
Hey, did you all know that Poland is on the road to fascism and anti-Europeanism?
Twin brothers, the Kaczynskis, control the country and have signed a concordat with the ultra right-wing Samoobrona and the League of Families. Yee-haw.
Here's more from Texas A&M's The Battalion. It's clear where Mr. Deutsch's credentials came from.
Well, Bush I has his library down there. These Bushes really know how to cover their base's different components. They go right to where they are, and A & M is a hotbed of wingnuttery.
El Gato
I am afraid that will happen if it is a Democrat. Once people get their way lately, they tend to move towards a scenario without conflict. I see it in business every single day. Fix the problem, forget history. I do not believe in that and it is frustrating as hell. Government is no different. We have to push for accountability or the bastards will wander off into retirement or some cushy job and be forgotten.
One thing that can help is that whoever takes over when they are gone must start a full process of investigation and disclosure.
The problem is that they are never really gone -- because they own the government to such an extent that they all but *are* it. And I don't just mean this regime; I mean the institution of the federal goverment.
One thing that can help is that whoever takes over when they are gone must start a full process of investigation and disclosure. If they decide to be polite and let bygones be bygones, it will always be there ready to boil up again.
The 50's red scare, has provided us a precedent on how to handle this.
If you've ever applied for a security clearance, you'll remember some of the questions they asked about you and your family. "Have you or any family members ever been a member or associated with? (huge list of orgs)...
One thing that can help is that whoever takes over when they are gone must start a full process of investigation and disclosure. If they decide to be polite and let bygones be bygones, it will always be there ready to boil up again.
EkCenTriK - 4:26 pm
won't happen either because 1) they are not gonna be gone (and everything they've done so far suggest they think that's a done deal),
or 2) cuz any subsequent administration is gonna have to placate the lickspittles, satraps, and sycophants of the previous regime without THEM rising to overthrow the new Govt...
mebbe we'll get 'councils of reconciliation' where the criminals 'confess to' and 'apologize for' their sins...but ain't shit gonna happen, cuz any new "Govt" will be terrified and obsequious to their former rulers....
La Jeunesse Doree raises its ugly and marvelous head yet again.
Indeed, Reggie is going to the Hall, post mortem.
Some brave soul went to the Corner and got all the Righties predictions on the SB: They all have hard ons for Pittsburgh because it's a real Amurkan city, blue collar and gritty, just like Pantload and little Richie Lowry.
Seattle is the home of Starbucks, a fact of great significance to them.
Isn't the Seahawks QB a gbig Bush fundraiser, with his dingbat bimbo wife from Survivor?
Let's go drive to the mall. Crossroads bookstore is having a sale on Left Behind books.
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Only if we can stop at Starbucks.
búhos
so.
NTodd...are you still here?
it looks like it worked. it was probably on my end...
dammit!
Did you know that there are three types of Aggies?
Those who can count and those who can't.
Eef the next President ees no a Democrat, all thees sheet weel go on weethout stopping.
even if the next president is a Dem (yeah, right), the same shit will continue...nothing EVER goes back, nothing EVER stops. just the camoflage gets better...
or less necessary...
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Here's more from Mr. Deutsch:
For those who are tired of all the whining surrounding 16 disputed words from President George W. Bush's State of the Union Address regarding uranium purchases, a much larger concern remains: capturing Saddam Hussein.
Though some may doubt Saddam's intent to buy uranium from Africa or his alleged al-Qaida ties, his cemented place in history as a fallen, evil dictator cannot be denied. [snip]
He's got a column complaining about those anti-smoking commercials sponsored by "the truth" that mostly seems to suggest that big tobacco doesn't do that kind of stuff anymore; one asserting that Jayson Blair was the inevitable result of affirmative action and politcal correctness; and the requisite semi-libertarian 'pot isn't really as bad as they say' column.
There's plenty more hackery preserved at the paper's site (for now), but that's as much lame-ass wingnut student writing as I can take today.
NTodd, i am trying to leave a comment on your blog, are you have the same troubles as atrios today???
Not that I'm aware of, but who the heck knows. Maybe all blog platforms have been outsourced to China and censored by Google...
Did you hear`about the Aggie and the Stop sign?
He's still there.
The best thing about Jack Parsons is in spite of (or maybe because) some of the wacko things he did, is that he was a real science and rocket engineering pioneer. He got things done.
" (October 2, 1914 – June 17, 1952), born Marvel Whiteside Parsons, was a rocket propulsion researcher at the California Institute of Technology and co-founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and Aerojet Corporation. His research was central to the United States rocket program in the 1930s and 1940s, notably in the development of space-capable rocket fuels and the invention of JATO units for aircraft.
He is less well known than Wernher von Braun or Theodore von Kármán in the rocket program and the origins of JPL. Nonetheless, von Braun remarked that Parsons, and not he, should be regarded as the father of the American space program [1]."
- - from wikipedia
Since everyone is afraid of their shadow nowadays, its a small wonder a 24 year has that much political power to move mountains.
As I see it, the problem is the jerk probably has the power to have anyone fired for whatever reason, true or false, and ruin a professional career in the sweep of a pen on paper. And all because there isn't an opposing political arm that has the power to put a stop to it. And they know it.
All I hear are Democrats disparaging comments...because our elected Party leaders are politically impotent. When Representatives and Senators start to listen to their constitutents and act accordingly, then these political appointee Hitlers will get what they have coming to them. Until then, I'll just have to bear the cross this party is laden with.
"Not that I'm aware of, but who the heck knows. Maybe all blog platforms have been outsourced to China and censored by Google..."
Let me guess where the help desk is/
it looks like it worked. it was probably on my end...
dammit!
her eyes
"Damn your eyes!"
(sorry, was just watching Young Frankenstein)
Let's go drive to the mall. Crossroads bookstore is having a sale on Left Behind books.
Hopefully that's not a bookstore at Crossroads Mall in Salt Lake City, with the underground tunnel system leading to the cities of the deros where they kidnap transients and force them to mine uranium on Mars.
Honestly, I come here to get cheered up cause my own vision is fucking dark.
You people are not helping.
Whistle a happy fucking tune?
(sorry, was just watching Young Frankenstein)
oh, great movie!
frau bleuukkerr!!!
"Whistle a happy fucking tune?
DWD"
Sorry DWD. I am just having an ugly feeling kind of day.
This is beyond stunning.
Barely post-adolescent little brownshirts assigned to bully some of the smartest people in the whole world into comforming to their idiotic ideology. I don't think this sort of theing was even dreamt of in the Reagan administration.
History will not look kindly upon this administration. It will be an episode of national shame.
Honestly, I come here to get cheered up cause my own vision is fucking dark.
You people are not helping.
Whistle a happy fucking tune?
Close your eyes and imagine Peggy Noonan trying to have sex with a dolphin. Or an angel.
Let me guess where the help desk is/
I'll bet you think it's India, but it's actually Toby's basement.
Eh, science is fur figs. Jesus took shop. Guy could really drive a nail.
How many Aggies does it take to eat an armadillo?
Three. One to do the eating, and two to watch for cars.
"Close your eyes and imagine Peggy Noonan trying to have sex with a dolphin. Or an angel.
DemByDefault"
You trying to make him suicidal, not to mention ruing the mental health of the dolphn?
Hi, her eyes. Hope things are well out East.
Kind of cold here but no snow so far.
frau bleuukkerr!!!
[whinney!]
It didn't make sense to me, unless we have vast fields given over to switchgrass
That's the part that drives me nuts. Assuming that switchgrass is economically viable, you'd still need millions of acres just to replace a small percentage of our gasoline. And that's just not realistic.
Whistle a happy fucking tune?
DWD - Challenged |-4:39 pm
back in plantation days, the kitchen slaves ALWAYS whistled when bring dishes to massa's table or when clearing them away...
that's the origin of the idea: whistle while you work...
reason:
it's really hard to whistle and eat at the same time...
"I'll bet you think it's India, but it's actually Toby's basement.
NTodd"
I thought the last support call I made had a bit of odd static on it. Must have been the crunching of the Cheetos.
An Aggie is walking down a creek. While he's looking around he notices another Aggie walking along the other side of the creek. He yells to the other Aggie, "Hey, how do I get to the other side?"
The other Aggie says, "You are on the other side!"
The aggie jokes are working for me, and I've never set foot in Texas.
Barely post-adolescent little brownshirts assigned to bully some of the smartest people in the whole world into comforming to their idiotic ideology
Hell, barely post-adolesent is the perfect age to be a perfect little brownshirt, drunk on power.
I don't think this sort of theing was even dreamt of in the Reagan administration.
History will not look kindly upon this administration. It will be an episode of national shame.
blerb - 4:40 pm
i doubt it...
it was dreamt of in Raygun's day; it was just impractical, what with guys like Brennan and Douglas on the bench, and a few principled people in the Congress...
but that was 20 years ago, folks...
How can you tell the Aggie on location at a drilling rig?
He's the one throwing bread to the helicopters.
Two Aggie builders were working on a house. One Aggie was on a ladder nailing. He'd reach into his nail pouch, pull out a nail, look at it, and either toss it over his shoulder or proceed to nail it into the wood.
The other Aggie couldn't stand it any longer and yells up, "Why are you throwing some of the nails away?"
The first Aggie explained, "When I pull it out of my nail pouch, if it's pointed toward me I throw it away. If it's pointed toward the house, then I can use it!"
The second Aggie got real excited and called him all kinds of names, explaining, "Don't throw away those nails that are pointed toward you! They're for the other side of the house!!"
Owls above.
And on the same day Numb Nuts was out doing photo-ops extolling the need for more educational emphasis on "applied sciences" in, particularly in higher education.
Of course, MSM completely missed the apparent contradiction--some would say irony--because, well, they had their noses so far up Numb Nut's ass they couldn't see the obvious.
An Aggie decides to raise chickens. So, he goes to the feed store and buys some chicks. He takes the chicks home, and plants them with their heads sticking up. He waters them, but they die.
He goes back to the feed store and tells the proprietor that he bought defective chicks, and gets another set. This time he plants them with their heads sticking down. He waters them, but they die.
He then sends a letter to his Alma Mater, describing the problem. They send a letter back asking for a soil sample.
Barely post-adolescent little brownshirts assigned to bully some of the smartest people in the whole world into comforming to their idiotic ideology.
I keep thinking of the little hitleryouth in the excellent film about Hitler's last days Downfall - they are driven by equal parts ignorance, ideology, and fear and hatred. Wee-pricked rat bastards all.
He then sends a letter to his Alma Mater, describing the problem. They send a letter back asking for a soil sample.
BEST ONE YET!!!!!!
aggie joke (to the extent that ain't too redundant)
An Aggie, on his way back to College Station for the Big Game (Texas), stops for gas in a little tank town.
the proprietor knows the guy's an Aggie, cuz he's wearing an Aggie blazer...
the aggie asks the prop where the head is. the prop tells the guy they don't have indoor plumbing but there's a two-holer behind the garage. the aggie heads in that direction...
after a few minutes, the prop hears the aggie shoutin with frustration and rage. he runs back to the two-holer, where he sees the aggie trying to reach through one of the holes. he asks what's going on.
the aggie explains that when he took off his blazer when he got ready to shit, and that it somehow fell into therough one of the holes...
the prop sez, i heer'd all ya aggies were plumb crazy over those blazers, but aint' that going a little far...
the aggie stops, dumbstruck. "Hell, i don't care about the blazer," he explains. "It's just that my lunch is in the pocket."
Lance Link
who they link to?
· Agencia Espacial BrasileiraArrangement
· Russian Aviation and Space Agency
· European Space Agency
· Canadian Space Agency
Listening to Bob Edwards’s interview with Stewart Udall today revealed every message we should be hearing from the Democratic Party.
Udall said "President Bush is a weak President, the weakest ever in my lifetime."
He said "This President and the Republican Congress have no respect for the traditions and values of this country."
Tom Udall for President!
Betcha $1000 the fuckhead Deutsch (a nice Aryan name, no?) was home-schooled.
sciencey or science-like?
The fair and balanced debate continues.
He said "This President and the Republican Congress have no respect for the traditions and values of this country."
Tom Udall for President!
Enslaved - 5:00 pm
i like tom...i know him...
but he's not a fighter...
he's a compromiser...
and where we are now, we don't have anything more to trade away that we can't live without...
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Tony Knowles for President!
Hitler's last days Downfall - they are driven by equal parts ignorance, ideology, and fear and hatred.
Where are the Shai-Hulud when you need them?
Assuming that switchgrass is economically viable, you'd still need millions of acres just to replace a small percentage of our gasoline. And that's just not realistic.
well, what I heard on NPR was that you could get about 1,500 gallons of ethanol per acre of switchgrass. So at 626 acres/sq. mi., that's 973,000 gallons per square mile, 9.73 million gallons/10 sq. mi, 97.3 million gallons per 100 square miles, 973 million gallons, 1,000 square miles, 9.73 billion gallons/10,000 square miles, and 97.3 billion gallons per 100,000 square miles.
So in theory we could meet approximately 75% of our gasoline consumption (131 bn gal/yr)requirement by putting 100,000 square miles of land under switchgrass cultivation. That might seem insane, until you find out that we already have almost 700,000 square miles of land under cultivation in this country. So that would be 15% of the land we have under cultivation converted to switchgrass. That's quite an investment, but compared to the collapse of civilization, it's not so bad.
Ah, nice 3hr. nap. Now, the coffee!
I keep having dreams that center around a location in my hometown... very odd stuff.
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a bunch of 24 year olds from the Heritage foundation to help fuck up Iraq,
Hitler Youth
So, are all the cool kids over at watertiger's place, on the top secret thread?
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The big mistake here was in referring to Deutsch as 'Mr.' Deutsch - imbuing his pronouncements with the authority that comes with adulthood.
Oh Jesus H. Christ, Mother-fuck my ass! Those fucking arrogant pricks. Please, go fuck up government with your psuedo-religious bullshit, but please for the love of God, leave science the fuck alone.
FUCK!
That pissant's arrogance is simply stunning in its breadth. He probably doesn't even realize that he was publicly embarrassed by the head of NASA. I mean, can you imagine seeing a memo sent to every one of your 19,000 co-workers--and then published for god and everyone to read--that basically says, "pay no attention to that ass-wipe in the corner"? Put that on your resume, you freakin' 24-year-old deutschbag.
Evening all.
An Aggie went to a hardware store where he bought a chain saw on his next door neighbors recommendation. Next day brought it back; "Mr Salesman, sir, this here saw is defective, I'm not getting the amount
of wood cut as promised." The salesman took it to the repair shop, few minutes later, "Seems to be nothing wrong,but do bring it back if your still having problems." Came back mad now, Just give me my money back this thing ain't working like y'all say!' The salesman took the saw from him ,turned away, pulled the cord... "Hot damn now I see!"
Dear God. We really are at war with maniacs, aren't we?
Anyway, I just found out I've been twice nominated for a third Koufax award, this one for Best Post. True, I'm in a field of 222 others, but still...
My nominated posts are at the bottom of Wampum's list...
When one of the earliest proponents of the Big Bang (if not the first), Georges Lemaître, a catholic priest AND physicist, introduced his ideas to the scientific community, many of the established theorists criticized the idea and claimed that Lemaître only proposed it because of his religious beliefs and desire to prove "creationism." My, how the tables have turned.
The Bush administration should take a close look at the data from COBE and WMAP and then stick it all up their Uranus.
None Dare Call Them Zampolit.
This is Trofim Lysenko's revenge, folks.
What's an Aggie's idea of safe sex?
Locking the car door.
The Soviets had Political Commissars to enforce correct thought in the barracks, factories, and laboratories; the Americans have Religious ones.
That a rabid ideologue/non-thinker fuckwad like Deutsch thinks he makes any sense whatsoever, is mind boggling. That he thinks people pay attention to him is scary. That he used the word "whining" when he is describing the "other(s)" who disagree with him in so many of his writings posted here, is a sign that he is projecting his pissy little mind's "misunderestimated" sick image of his own worth. I am so glad I am retired. The way things are going in government, science, religion, international affairs, etc., etc., I want no part of it.
Any bets on just when this littil puke Deutsch will join the ranks of another Bush presidential appointee that had no prior experence whatsoever, you know, that Brown jerk Bush put in charge of FEMA, anyone see a pattern here !!!!!!!!
Remember the officer in Das Boot whose job it was to enforce ideological hygiene, and who was roundly despised and ridiculed by men who had seen battle and were tired of having their time and lives wasted by those of his ilk?
That's this Deutsch kid. Pun intended.
The Big Bang memo came from Mr. Deutsch, a 24-year-old presidential appointee in the press office at NASA headquarters whose résumé says he was an intern in the "war room" of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign.
Oh Jeebus, save us from your followers. Deutsch, what an appropriate name -- rhymes with douche, and resonates with fascism.
Welcome to the American Red Guards.
Public denunciation sessions and re-education camps to follow.
He's a public affairs goverment employee. You can ask him directly about NASA and how many thousand years old the universe is and when the Christian God created it.
George Deutsch
NASA National Public Affairs HQ
(202) 358-1324
george.deutsch-1@nasa.gov
An Aggie, what are the odds.
oh. my. god.
Ho Lee fuck. Actually, probably not too far removed from the "wen ho lee fuck"....
During the Clinton attacks, there was some conversation as to what would be sufficient grounds to impeach, and gross negligence, incompetence and mismanagement were argued by some as falling within the ambit of "high crimes and misdemeanors". This totally incompetent maladministration deserves to be sacked en masse, if not for their criminal acts, just for their complete ineptitude....
Cheers,
Deutsch...that name means something to me. Is he the son of somebody GOP-ish?
I'm hoping it was not John Deutsch, former Bush I Undersecretary of Energy (and Clinton's Deputy Secretary of Defence and CIA director) ... as well as one of my perfessers for Physical Chemistry.... He's a RWer; never liked him much, even when in the CLinton administration....
Cheers,
it's all kind of backwards. Setting asisde the injection of God into government funded science, most politicians justify NASA by relating its work to more knowledge about Earth. The Bush administration directive to make everything tie into space exploration. They want the narrative to be "big ideas".
well, just get porter goss over there and purge all the sciency people over there
we can get by with intelligently designed and guided space shuttles and other such craft, no ??
no surprise coming from a graduate of Texas A&M. it's a little fascist breeding ground down there.
Anyway, I think we should have lowered income tax rates for mathematicians and scientists to encourage more people to go into those fields.
Like the old USSR which had communist party members everywhere to make sure that the orthodoxy was held and there was no dissent, the wingnuts have put wingers in everywhere to make sure that orthodoxy is held that there is no dissent.
Do you think that the communist/wingnuts will next tell the NASA scientists that they must explain that the "fact" that the sun is in the middle of our solar system is only a "theory"?
The people there need jobs, so they can't just resign en-masse, but it would be great if they did.
Sooo, what's the pay grade of this genius?
"religious issue" is not a phrase that should ever be included in a NASA directive to its employees.
So why does Bush want us to educate more high school students in science and math just so when they get a job at nasa they can be fucked over by a little no nothing party hack?
aarrgarggh. fiire baaad.
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