I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Frist at last!
top one hundred?
Thank God Almighty I'm Frist at last!
Oh no... this will undoubtedly release a troll frenzy, especially those nasty English mum trolls.
Blair must be even more delusional tha Bush is if he thinks we're all going to understand his reasons.
Until now, the explanation was that he had a seat on the Carlyle board waiting for him. Now we know he's just plain nuts.
A liberal British religiously insane nutjob helping Bush with his Bush Crime Family wars. WHAT ARE THE ODDS?
Top-10!
Fair?
Blair: NOT SO FIERY AS WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WRECK!
but there's still a problem when he cites accountability to god rather than voters. "let god sort it out" is a licence to do anything.
Blair is worse than Bush cause he's at leat intelligent. I did not think I could hate a british leader more than I hate Thatcher but Blair has done it, and under the "labour" name also. Politics should be religions free all over this fucking planet!
If you don't believe in God, clap your hands
If you don't trust the Lord, clap your hands
If you reject the possibility of a Deity, then, clap your hands
And join the Church of England!
...or the Atheist Tabernacle Choir
I hate Blair so much, i need something to make me feel better...
and here is a kitten named Boo playing in a fridge
http://www.dailykitten.com/
"but there's still a problem when he cites accountability to god rather than voters. "let god sort it out" is a licence to do anything."
Exactly. It's still an appalling quote.
the really scary thing:
according to the Guardian, the man has Christina Aguillera on his I-Pod.
but there's still a problem when he cites accountability to god rather than voters. "let god sort it out" is a licence to do anything."
Exactly. It's still an appalling quote.
John D.
I disagree. Blair's point is that he will not be tormented by doubt, but will accept responsibility, acknowledging that the final judgment is not public opinion (which, after all, blows in the wind), but a higher accountability.
Is he holding himself accountable to a higher authority? Or to a creation of his own desires? That's the issue, and I think Blair can fairly be said to the in the former, not the latter, category. Accountability, for him, in other words, is a serious matter. He is not James Dobson or even George Bush. He doesn't think God speaks to/through him, but he does think he is accountable to God.
Bush, by contrast, thinks God approves of whatever Bush wants to do. The difference is significant.
Blair's position is little different from that of European leaders since Constantine. It is certainly not the view of a religious fanatic.
Whatever the reading mis-comprehension Atrios made, the AP/Yahoo article I read this morning quoted a lot of people who apparently heard it the same way -- as in, God makes the decision to go to war, not God makes the judgement about Tony Blair's actions.
The Second, Um; Coming.
Like I said:
He's been hanging around Prince Fuckwit too long.
The stupidity rubbed off.
Like it did on Pickles.
Kitty in da Fridge...............SCHLAMM!
Cool, cool kitty.
This "Kill them all and let God sort it out the right or wrong," thinking kind of shoots the "If it weren't for religion (God), anything would be allowed" reasoning, doesn't it?
I'd rather have leaders with an enternal moral compass.
Jehovah Witnesses just dropped by, interesting timing! I took one look at the bible and said I'm not interested; she asks with a smile "are you sure?" I say yes, religion has just fucked up the world.
This is so unlike me to be so blunt; I tend toward the polite. I'm just so fed up with religion/fundamentalism and what its doing to our world (still).
I think you were right the first time. Not that Blair comes out and says it, but he's as much a fundie as chimpy.
He's just smart enough to not come out and say so explicitly.
All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.
Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom,
He made their horrid wings.
All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.
Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid,
Who made the spikey urchin,
Who made the shark, He did!
All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.
AMEN.
Thank you, Jennifer.
There seems to be a certain smugness in Blair's words. He has participated in serious crimes against humanity. As a Christian he should repent of his error and responsibly try to ameliorate the damage he has done-- not await the judgment of history or God.
If you don't believe in Jesus, clap your hands!
If you don't believe in Jesus, clap your hands!
If you don't believe in Jesus,
No "God bless you!" when ya sneezes!
If you don't believe in Jesus, clap your hands!
Religion's for dummies. Science done keep the tee vee on.
Oh I dunno, it still reads to me that he's suggesting that God thinks he did the right thing. Furthermore, as he is the leader of a supposedly democratic country, human beings actually do have the right, and for that matter the obligation, to judge him.
So don't be hard on yourself Dr. Black.
There is a reason this is my favoritest blog on the internets. Thanks for the update Atrios.
Terry C has just returned from his meeting with "Allah's Brigade".
Don't meet again with those rug-heads Terry C.
So God and history will judge him in the end. That's not absolution for what anyone does in their lives day to day when they still have control over the manifestations of their decisions.
The whole idea of subscribing to religious tenets is that you act according to them daily. You don't just rampage through life killing people in a war that you knew was illegal and immoral and then write it off to God judging you later. God is judging you right now Tony Blair.
Way to go Atrios. A healthy intellectual diet includes generous amounts of crow.
I'm confused...Blair's still an asshole, right?
I'm confused...Blair's still an asshole, right?
Fast Eddie
Well...it seems that Blair thinks that if he must, in good conscience, behave like an asshole, that he runs the risk that God, in the end, will judge him to be an asshole. What's missing in between there is the concept of government by consent of the people, which makes him an asshole.
In other words, Fast Eddie: Yes.
Also, as I commented in the original thread, Blair seems to feel as if all matters of conscience are judged equally. That is, it's the thought that counts, not the rightness of action.
The problem in the original post was the bizarre distinction drawn between these two camps:
1. Those who believe their decisions are informed by God.
2. Those who believe their decisions are endorsed by God.
Sorry--that's not much of a distinction. It's like drawing a distinction between:
1. Believing that you were advised by a talking unicorn yesterday, and
2. Believing that you were advised by a talking unicorn yesterday who assured you that you were correct.
The problem here is not the additional assurance. The problem is that you believe in talking unicorns at all. Even if you are surrounded by people who habitually claim to believe in talking unicorns, too, that doesn't change the essential nature of the problem.
I know there's a tendency to treat anything religious with kid gloves, but it simply isn't logical. All of the supernatural claims above deserve to be treated as lunacy, and in a healthy culture we would not draw false distinctions between them.
Tony bLIAR's the Jeff Gannon of prime ministers. Makes me think of Linkin Parks version of Pig Face Liar
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