I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Ist-fray?


Bush presidency: FIERY WRECK!


GravatarDva!


Gravatarthird?


Gravatarblast you, NTodd, Only Child!!!


GravatarChyort vozmi!


GravatarWell, Susan has it about right:

Susan Sarandon on Sen. Hillary Clinton's White House hopes: "I find Hillary to be a great disappointment. She's lost her progressive following because of her caution and centrist approach. It bothered me when she voted for the war. There were brave people who didn't. She's not worse than other politicians, but I hoped she would be better. What America is looking for is authentic people who want to go into public service because they strongly believe in something, not people who are [just] trying to get elected."


GravatarNobody yells "Owls" anymore?

Assholes.


Gravatar blast you, NTodd, Only Child!!!

It's Lenore's fault.


GravatarCould NTodd spell Concorcet correctly, or is the misspelling (God knows why) deliberate?


GravatarShe's not worse than other politicians, but I hoped she would be better.

I'm not a Hillary hater, but I gotta say I never expected much from her, either.


Gravatar Nobody yells "Owls" anymore?

Wasn't my turn today.


GravatarJFTB,

Amen to that Sarandon comment re: Hillary. It is exactly how I feel about her. I really feel strongly that we need to weed out the career poiliticians, that is, people who are only looking out for themselves. I don;t mind some self-interest, it's only human and natural. But not this "me first and me only" shit.


GravatarCould NTodd spell Concorcet correctly, or is the misspelling (God knows why) deliberate?

Use your brain. No, the other one.


GravatarClinton = Singlehandedly brought the forces of Radical-Islamo-Facist-Narco-Turrism to heel.

Chimpy = Let Clinton's victory slip through his idle paws.


GravatarCould NTodd spell Concorcet correctly, or is the misspelling (God knows why) deliberate?

I don't even know what it means.


GravatarFRIST!!!


GravatarYeah, I guess you can only be disappointed if you had high hopes. I really was so excited when Hillary went to the senate.

That's why I was stunned at her war vote. Well, she's dead to me now and has been for a long time.


Gravatarblast you, NTodd, Only Child!!!

It's Lenore's fault.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket

Nobody yells "Owls" anymore?

Wasn't my turn today.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket

All right, young man. You've been watching too much tv news and preznitial press conferences. You're busted. No more tv for two weeks, and as of right now, you can just go take a time out on your room by yourself. No Mex, no Sam, and - no Pod!!!


Gravatarand the correct spelling is Condorcet. He was kind of the Andy Sullivan of the Revolution, wasn't he?


GravatarThe day started out to be so beautiful here, and now it's just dark grey rain. I was going to crawl around underneath my house and put in a new water line for the frig, but this gives me anexcuse to come in and visit. It's nice to be inside.


GravatarHot chocolate chocolate caramel chip cookies now being served.


GravatarWhere do meercats live anyway? I want to see some in nature!


GravatarWoist president eva

R2K


GravatarOh shoot!


GravatarHot chocolate chocolate caramel chip cookies now being served.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


Hey, I'll take the caramel cookies without chocolate! Any of those????

I love caramel.


GravatarJenny--not yet, but stick around and it could happen


GravatarWho's coming out for the wedding in October? I need to fill up the groom's side of the aisle...


GravatarYeah, I guess you can only be disappointed if you had high hopes. I really was so excited when Hillary went to the senate.

I was happy when she was elected, only cause I knew it made Tweety and all the other Tweetys plotz. Likewise if by some miracle she makes it to the Oval Office, that will be the only reason I'll be actually happy, other than the fact that in that improbably scenario, St McCain will have sold his soul for naught.


GravatarCould NTodd spell Concorcet correctly, or is the misspelling (God knows why) deliberate?

I don't even know what it means.


Marquis de Condorcet.

Funny that somebody bitching about my spelling can't spell it right. I'm guessing it's the same person who demanded I spell "philsophizer" correctly last year. Lighten the fuck up.


GravatarWhere do meercats live anyway? I want to see some in nature!
Jenny from the Blog

a very inhospitable part of Africa...if memory serves.


GravatarSorry about the dreary weather, mena. What a drag.


GravatarI don't even know what it means.
Zap Rowsdower


I think he's trying to spell concertina, a musical instrument in the squeeze-box family.


Gravatara very inhospitable part of Africa...if memory serves.
Sarah Deere


Oh, well never mind!


GravatarV/Evey '08


Gravatarmomma's got a condorcet?


GravatarIn mena's honor I'll go out to enjoy this beautiful southern ca day.

It's the least I can do!


GravatarGood evening, all.

Did I miss anything irksome since
earlier today when Haloscan went
batshit?


GravatarJenny--man, it's ugly up here!


GravatarWomen - "Direct" victims of Agent Orange
03/17/2006 -- 22:23(GMT+7)

Ha Noi (VNA) - The war ended more than 30 years ago, yet its consequences still rule the lives of many of its victims, including not only those who were directly exposed to the Agent Orange sprayed by the US troops onto southern Viet Nam during the war, but also mothers and wives who are suffering because their husbands and children are affected by Agent Orange.

http://www.vnagency.com.vn/newsA...& NEWS_ID=191047


GravatarIt's okay Jenny. Like I said, it's nice to be in here.


GravatarFor those of you who do not know American history, for a while I was King of Prickistan, but then there was a coup d'eTodd and I had to flee. Fortunately, I found asylum and conned the nation of Dorkestein into giving me a title.


GravatarFor those of you who do not know American history, for a while I was King of Prickistan, but then there was a coup d'eTodd and I had to flee. Fortunately, I found asylum and conned the nation of Dorkestein into giving me a title.


GravatarI think he's trying to spell concertina, a musical instrument in the squeeze-box family.

nope, it's deliberate and funny. Sez me.


GravatarAmen to that Sarandon comment re: Hillary. It is exactly how I feel about her. I really feel strongly that we need to weed out the career poiliticians, that is, people who are only looking out for themselves. I don;t mind some self-interest, it's only human and natural. But not this "me first and me only" shit.
Sarah Deere |


The problem is the career politicians know how to win elections. I'm sorry, anyone who actually reaches the heights of legitimately going after the WH has to be motivated almost exclusively by ambition. That goes for their spouse as well.


GravatarSorry....jack just then was me. I
really gotta remember to look at what
name I'm posting......


GravatarDid I miss anything irksome since
earlier today when Haloscan went
batshit?


Change your name back, steve.


GravatarBiscuits - Not Bombs!


GravatarSorry, NTodd. Fingers skipped a "d". I'm happy that it never happened to you.


GravatarNTodd--they say Condorcet, you say Condorket...


GravatarHot chocolate chocolate caramel chip cookies now being served.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


I'm in love.


GravatarSo what's with meercat blogging? Not that there's anything wrong with that.


Gravatargoing away now for a while (grabs one of the warm and fresh chocolate chocolate carmel chip cookies off Sallyh's cooling racks as she goes.....)


GravatarNTodd--they say Condorcet, you say Condorket...

I'm assuming it's one of those duck/chicken/turkey/condor things John Madden serves for Thanksgiving...


GravatarThe art of washtub bass playing is dying.


GravatarGood evening, all.

Did I miss anything irksome since
earlier today when Haloscan went
batshit?

jack | 03.18.06 - 5:30 pm | #
===





GravatarLenore---I'm not sure, but I think meerkats are native to Madagascar.


Gravatar but then there was a coup d'eTodd and I had to flee.



GravatarEli--what's on tap for tonight on Scifi?

And are you now writing Kate O'Beirne fanfic?


GravatarThe dingo dog is indigenous to Australia.


GravatarSteve, do you know jack??


Gravatarbut then there was a coup d'eTodd and I had to flee.
==

Zap - the state - it is him!


GravatarAnybody see the new Dr. Who last
night?


GravatarThey have puffins in Norway.


Gravatarthe siren call of Trader Joe's is strong...


GravatarEli--what's on tap for tonight on Scifi?

And are you now writing Kate O'Beirne fanfic?


Freddy Vs. Jason. I think I'll give it a miss. The 7:00 is Shallow Ground, which is unusually strange and good as direct-from-video-to-Sci-Fi movies go. Bit incoherent, tho...


Gravatar Anybody see the new Dr. Who last
night?


Wouldn't miss it.


GravatarRatman!


Gravatar"momma's got a condorcet?"

And daddy never sleeps at night....


Gravatarwatertiger--you should make another pass--you never know what you might have forgotten yesterday.

If they have fresh raspberries in your area, the crop is excellent right now at TJ's.


GravatarGary Cohen's head seems too narrow to support that baritone voice.

And he's lost alotta hair since I last saw him.


Gravatarthe siren call of Trader Joe's is strong...

Didja finish the mystery movie?


Gravatarthe siren call of Trader Joe's is strong...

Have you tried their new pappadum chips (in tandoori and yogurt and dill flavors)?

Addicting doesn't begin to describe it...


Gravatarwhat's not to love?


GravatarWT - whadjaget?


GravatarEli--I'm so not into Freddy v. Jason. It's bad, but it's wrong for Scifi Saturday night.

The earlier one sounds like a possibility.


GravatarWow, the non sequiturs are flying
thick this evening.


GravatarI'm sorry, anyone who actually reaches the heights of legitimately going after the WH has to be motivated almost exclusively by ambition. That goes for their spouse as well.
ql in ny

ql, I know. Ain't gonna change, but I can hope.

And some candidates are more human and less self-serving than others. I like to think of two desirable qualities: intelligence and a conscience.

Later!


GravatarGary Cohen's head seems too narrow to support that baritone voice.

And he's lost alotta hair since I last saw him.


I miss Bob Murphy. A lot.


GravatarAnybody see the new Dr. Who last
night?


You know, I watched the first few minutes, and then popped in the documentary on Edward R. Murrow I got from Netflix.

I dunno... modern sci-fi and me just ain't friends...


GravatarLenore---I'm not sure, but I think meerkats are native to Madagascar.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes

National Geographic shows them in a range in Kalahari Desert.


GravatarWT - whadjaget?

haven't been there since our little group foray last night.

The crowds are going to be deadly.


GravatarIf yer comments are falling apart, don't despair. Just kneed them until they form a ball.


Gravatarthe non sequiters always return to capistrano in March.


GravatarI'm off...


GravatarTwo morons in a zebra suit attacked by lions.


Gravatar Sorry, NTodd. Fingers skipped a "d". I'm happy that it never happened to you.

Point is: you're being a dorc about the name, and couldn't even take the time to make sure YOU spelled it correctly. Just lighten the fuck up. You'll live longer.

And I know that because I'm a sykiatrist.


GravatarAnd I know that because I'm a sykiatrist.


Aha! NTodd is really Charles Crauthammer!!


GravatarI dig the Dr. Who palette of situations and concepts.

And I like his calm in the midst of massive inexplicabilities.
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GravatarFeingold/Boxer '08!


GravatarHilliary is a neocon and is trying to outflank Bush as a war-mongering fascist.

Iraq, Syria and most of all Iran, she leads the charge for war. I hope she rots in Hell, along with her asshole husband and the rest of the Zionist mofos in the AIPAC.


GravatarI miss Bob Murphy. A lot.

No more happy recaps. But I like Cohen, especially when he's paired with Ed Coleman. They can't not be smartass'd.

The new WFAN Mets crew ... meh.


Gravatarhow feingold/harkin: We take the heartland!!


Gravatarhow feingold/harkin: We take the heartland!!
DemByDefault | 03.18.06 - 5:42 pm | #


I'm with you. That is so a winning
ticket.....


GravatarWow, the non sequiturs are flying
thick this evening.
steve simels | 03.18.06 - 5:36 pm


the landlady knew judo, cuz the roomers were flying!!!


GravatarJug playing has also been relegated to yesteryear.


GravatarOkay, it's high time we had a few rules:

1) All open threads will have an assigned topic from one of these areas: sex, recipes, puns, scifi or catblogging.

2) No incorrect spellings will be tolerated, deliberate or accidental.

3) There is absolutely no flirting allowed, unless it is wrapped in bacon.


Gravatar the rest of the Zionist mofos in the
AIPAC.
Lou | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 5:42 pm | #


You might want to ratchet the
rhetoric down a bit....

Just sayin....


GravatarHilliary is a neocon and is trying to outflank ...

Worked for the Clenis.

I'm with those who don't expect the Clintoris to be anything but another politician. After all, the political parties exist simply to get people elected; they're only about policy tangentially, so far as they have financiers to coddle.


Gravatar how feingold/harkin: We take the heartland!!

Ick. Two Senators on a ticket? NFW.


GravatarI am new here....does anyone know anything about air america radio going off the air in april? I have a reliable source and I don't want to believe what they have told me.


GravatarOkay, it's high time we had a few rules:

I didn't vote for you.


Gravatarso far as they have financiers to coddle.

Mind you, some bankers can be very coddly...


Gravatar3) There is absolutely no flirting allowed, unless it is wrapped in bacon.

Roumaki flirting?


Gravatar*wrapping self in bacon*


You left out kitties.


GravatarOh, I almost forgot -- for the New Yorkers...

An Insider's Guide to Trader Joe's

http://tinyurl.com/g7lzq

*


GravatarEdwards/Feingold


GravatarI am new here....does anyone know anything about air america radio going off the air in april? I have a reliable source and I don't want to believe what they have told me.

Hmm ... smells like ... mendacity.


GravatarOh...I forgot to mention it only pertains to New York City's WLIB.


Gravatar*wrapping self in bacon*

Mmm... MLT...


GravatarIt would help your case if you spelled "dork" correctly.


GravatarPHOTOS - Fayetteville/Ft. Bragg Rally & Protest Pics
http://www.democraticunderground...& mesg_id=696061
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GravatarA sample:

Adopt a Soviet Mentality. This is the first thing nearly every regular TJ's shopper mentions: Products appear suddenly, work their way into your daily routine, and then disappear with no warning. Example: no-boil lasagna noodles. Here one day, gone for months. If you really like something, hoard it. You never know when it will vanish.

Best Bargain: Orchids. Every shopper I surveyed had a different best bargain, so I'll give you mine—beautiful, long-lasting orchids for $8. I can't tell you how many last-minute gift fiascos these have helped me avoid.

The Shopping-List Guarantee. If you go to TJ's with a shopping list for a dinner party or even a moderately complex recipe, you are guaranteed to leave the store without finding at least one item on the list. Just accept the fact that you will have to hit one or two other stores on the way home. This raises a bigger issue: TJ's has great prices on many staples, and it's easy to forget that its selection is tiny compared to a real supermarket. It is not a one-stop shopping solution.

Fan Favorites. Here's a random sampling of some items my survey participants recommend: Simmer sauces; spices; beer and wine other than Chuck; frozen hors d'oeuvres (mini quiches, mushroom turnovers) to have on hand for surprise guests; unpasteurized orange juice; vitamins; canned turkey chili; Fage nonfat Greek yogurt; refrigerated pie crusts; bottled juices.


GravatarOh...I forgot to mention it only pertains to New York City's WLIB.


The whole station, or are they just dumping AA?

Could AA survive on webcasting?


Gravatarthe siren call of Trader Joe's is strong...

Have you tried their new pappadum chips (in tandoori and yogurt and dill flavors)?

Addicting doesn't begin to describe it...
dave™© | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 5:36 pm


Ooh, yes! Goes great with hummus, as well.

could you pick me up a gingerbread loaf and some roasted cashews, please and thank you. And maybe some cane sugar cola, as well.


GravatarI am new here....does anyone know anything about air america radio going off the air in april? I have a reliable source and I don't want to believe what they have told me.

Your anus is not a reliable source. Neither is Howie Kurtz who, as it turns out, is also an anus.

I didn't vote for you.

You don't vote for dorcs.


GravatarAll These Crooks are Connected

Knight-Ridder ties together the Duke Cunningham scandal with the controversy over the Pentagon's Joint Counter-Intelligence Field Activity's (CIFA) spying on anti-war activists.


GravatarOkay, it's high time we had a few rules:

You're not the boss of me now
And you're not so big


Gravatar It would help your case if you spelled "dork" correctly.

No, it wouldn't, actually, you stupid, humourless git.


GravatarIf Senator Clinton becomes president, Tweety will crawl to the WH on his knees for an appointment.

President C: You've GOT to be kidding!

Tweety: I'll do anything. ANYthing.

President C: Weellll, how about Deputy Assistant to the Undersecretary for DOING MY LAUNDRY???

Tweety: You are a great person, my empress. Everybody loves you, except for a few whack-jobs on the extreme right.

*curtain*


GravatarWow.. I wish there was a Trader Jones near here.


GravatarOh...I forgot to mention it only pertains to New York City's WLIB.
susie o | 03.18.06 - 5:46 pm | #


O'Reilly's flogged that story, so
it's probably bogus.

Don't know fer sure, however....


Gravatarhumourless

Fourinner!!!


GravatarOh...I forgot to mention it only pertains to New York City's WLIB.
susie o |


I heard that from a wingnut at work. He gets his news from limpdick oxymoron.


GravatarYou're not the boss of me now
And you're not so big


Settle down, Francis.


GravatarJust got done seeing Good Night and Good Lucky. Very good film. David Strathairn did an excellent job.

But Capote was still a wee bit better, overall.


GravatarYou're not the boss of me now
And you're not so big
Rmj, Wandering Aengus

I miss that show on Sundays.


GravatarHow about bacon-wrapped kitties?


GravatarI'm sorry, anyone who actually reaches the heights of legitimately going after the WH has to be motivated almost exclusively by ambition. That goes for their spouse as well.
ql in ny


True, but there's nothing new about that. It's always been that way. It just seems to me that there is ambition and there's ambition. One can be ambitious for power for more than just ones own gratification.


GravatarDo any of you guys have an opinion of Bill Richardson? I think he'd make one hell of a candidate.


GravatarIf Senator Clinton becomes president, Tweety will crawl to the WH on his knees for an appointment.

Is it true that he turned on Dems 'cause Clinton turned down his offer to come work for the Big Dog?


Gravatar If Senator Clinton becomes president, Tweety will crawl to the WH on his knees for an appointment.

And she'll be impeached for getting head from him in the Oval Office.


GravatarGood Night and Good Lucky
==

Sounds like the subtitled for China version.


GravatarA Saint Paddy's Day poem (from Yeats) for Duh Preznit. For some reason, I doubt he'd get it.


Gravatar How about bacon-wrapped kitties?

Well, that's rather flirtatious and we'll need to get a ruling from our judges...


GravatarHow about bacon-wrapped kitties?
catnip

AKA Kit and Caboodle?


GravatarI dig the Dr. Who palette of situations and concepts.

And I like his calm in the midst of massive inexplicabilities.
-
QuentinCompson


The interesting change is, in the "original" series he was kicked off Gallifrey for interfering with other planets, and traveled in a wonky and unpredictable TARDIS.

Now he's the last Time Lord, wandering homelessly in a TARDIS that seems to work just fine, thank you.

Not sure what the shift says about the zietgeist, but it says something.


Gravatar"O'Reilly's flogged that story, so
it's probably bogus.
"

The O'Reilly Factor is a NO SPIN zone. He tells it straight, without partisan spin.


GravatarDo any of you guys have an opinion of Bill Richardson?


I used to like him, but wasn't he making some "we democrats have to stop shunning people of faith" noises the other day? Smells like a candidate....


GravatarI live very near to NYC...one of the minor shows members has told one of my co-workers (two degrees of separation) that AAR did not get the renewal on their contract. I was just wondering if anyone else has heard if they have found another source for broadcasting.


GravatarYou don't vote for dorcs.

you're a loony.


Gravatar"Sounds like the subtitled for China version.
mena
"

lol. My fingers get a mind of their own at times.


GravatarThe O'Reilly Factor is a NO SPIN zone. He tells it straight, without partisan spin.

If he's good enough for Altmouse, he's good enough for me!


GravatarWhen a clarinetist has to play a saxophone selection, shouldn't he quickly shuffle over to the brass section, since saxophones are clearly made of brass?


GravatarIraq war protest pics from NJ
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2520987
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GravatarI didn't vote for you.

You don't vote for dorcs.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 5:48 pm


What about orcs?


Gravataryou're a loony.

I'm invincible! The Blac Cnight always triumphs!


GravatarBut Capote was still a wee bit better, overall.

I saw Capote this morning. Thought it was better than Crash.

Haven't seen Good Night, and Good Luck or Brokeback Mountain or Munich.


GravatarAnybody see the new Dr. Who last
night?
steve simels

yep, enjoyed it , thought it would be cheesy, but it was good.


GravatarWow, the non sequiturs are flying
thick this evening.
steve simels

It's the spring migration.


GravatarWhat about orcs?

They're actually made from elves, with just a dash of torture.


GravatarHey, I'm with Lou. We've been racheting the rhetoric down for too long, time to call a spade a spade, and a neocon a traitor, even if it's the beloved Hillary, who never saw a position she couldn't equivocate.


GravatarIs it true that he turned on Dems 'cause Clinton turned down his offer to come work for the Big Dog?

Hmmmm, that's interesting, if true. Had Tweety gone to work there, and being the suck-up to power that he is, he would have had the Big Dog's Big ONE in his mouth so often that the Big Dog wouldn't have needed Monica, saving us all that fun during Inspector STarr's investigation and the subsequent impeachment follies.


Gravatarmy gutters are clean and my mack is killing me.


Gravatarhello moonbats


GravatarLime Rickey | 03.18.06 - 5:53 pm

The sound originates from wood. Or (yecch) plastic.
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Gravatarback - not mack.

my mack is fine.


Gravataryep, enjoyed it , thought it would be cheesy, but it was good.
1watt Hermit | 03.18.06 - 5:55 pm | #


Yeah, that was my feeling as well.
Plus I really like the new tootsie....


GravatarI'll go with Molly Ivins rather than Lou. Molly called Hillary a worthless triangulating son of a bitch.


Gravatar Wow, the non sequiturs are flying
thick this evening.
steve simels

It's the spring migration.


On my way to the store this evening I had 3 wild turkeys fly in front of me.


GravatarI used to like him, but wasn't he making some "we democrats have to stop shunning people of faith" noises the other day? Smells like a candidate....
DemByDefault


Well, the "framing" is stuck in: fur it, or agin it. And I mean that on a spectrum from James Dobson to Michael Lerner to many of the commenters here.

Very hard to have a calm, non-passionate discussion of religion on this blog without several parties starting to screech and throw feces. Which I figure reflects the body-politic in general.

But Bush (via Reagan) has made the subject impossible to ignore. Kevin Phillips has a book, American Theorcracy being released on the 21st. He combines the GOP, religion, and oil, and says it's an unholy mix. He's right. I'm anxious to read it.


GravatarHad Tweety gone to work there, and being the suck-up to power that he is, he would have had the Big Dog's Big ONE in his mouth so often that the Big Dog wouldn't have needed Monica, saving us all that fun during Inspector STarr's investigation and the subsequent impeachment follies.

Not sure how anything would have been different other than a much, MUCH higher ick factor...


GravatarI agree with ronjazz. Hillary has sold out and is unworthy of further consideration.


GravatarHere’s another typical mainstream media omission and free pass given to Mista Boosh. NBC News correspondent Kelly O'Donnell blunts Bush's low poll numbers by describing his "warm" reception at public speaking engagements, but "forgets" to mention all audience members at these events are pre-screened, questions scripted and protesters abruptly led from the proceedings.

The accumulative effect of such reporting, ubiquitous in the mainstream media, is both direct and subliminal. It not only deflects deserved criticism - pulling Bush back from the precipice when he has more than earned his right to fall – but breathes new life into the illusion that he is likable, and due to this likeability entitled to a wider margin of error. (Could it be any wider?)

Consciously or not, the mainstream media is the enabler in this dysfunctional relationship between the administration and the citizens it purports to represent. The enabling spouse who points out minor flaws every now and then of the abusing or abusive counterpart, but always settles on blind devotion, always avoids mentioning the unmentionable: in this case, that the emperor has - for several years now - no clothes.

http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/ 200603170004


GravatarI forgot to mention it only pertains to New York City's WLIB.

Did WLIB get bought up by one of those religious stations? That seems to be happening a lot to AA's outlets... wonder why???


Gravatar my gutters are clean and my mack is killing me.

You should switch to PC.


GravatarTake 11 min and 19 seconds out of your life and watch this.

Trust me
http://us.video.aol.com/video.in...& pmmsid=1472048


GravatarAnybody see the new Dr. Who last
night?
steve simels


it was quite good imho (i'm a huge and finicky fan). i'm sure scifi will rerun it at least a million times.


GravatarOn my way to the store this evening I had 3 wild turkeys fly in front of me.


You shouldn't drink and drive


Gravatarmy gutters are clean and my mack is killing me.

Whatcha need is a good mackdaddy. Sadly, I gotta go run errands.


GravatarThe sound originates from wood. Or (yecch) plastic.
-
QuentinCompson


That's an explanation, albeit a piss-poor one.


GravatarNBC News correspondent Kelly O'Donnell blunts Bush's low poll numbers by describing his "warm" reception at public speaking engagements, but "forgets" to mention all audience members at these events are pre-screened, questions scripted and protesters abruptly led from the proceedings.

Hitler got warm receptions all the time, too, in front of the party faithful.


GravatarTrue, but there's nothing new about that. It's always been that way. It just seems to me that there is ambition and there's ambition. One can be ambitious for power for more than just ones own gratification.
Tena | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 5:50 pm | #


I agree. In order to run for president, a person has to be extremely arrogant. I would prefer someone who is arrogant because he (or possibly she) thinks his (or her) ideas about policy are the best. I'm not impressed by people who want power for its own sake and are arrogant enough to think they deserve it. Clinton is definitely in the second category. The only belief she is not willing to compromise is the belief that she should be in power. Yech.

Sean Patrick for president in 2044!


GravatarOh, and BTW,

Happy fuckin' anniversary, George.


GravatarStop the War Demo.


Gravatarronjazz:

References to Zionist mofos in AIPAC
are a little too close to references to
the International Jewish Conspiracy.
Rhetorically speaking.

For my taste, anyway.


GravatarAKA Kit and Caboodle?
footloose


!


GravatarOn my way to the store this evening I had 3 wild turkeys fly in front of me.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket


three wild turkeys - that would be just about right.


GravatarYou shouldn't drink and drive

Oh, it's okay: this is Vermont. It's expected, especially when hunting.


GravatarOn my way to the store this evening I had 3 wild turkeys fly in front of me

Interesting - I'm flying on my way to a few wild turkeys my own self....


GravatarYeah, that was my feeling as well.
Plus I really like the new tootsie.... -steve simels


Having already watched the series (being both computer literate and copyright flexible) I can say there are some damn fine episodes in store. The next one is one of the best of the season in fact.


GravatarI had 3 wild turkeys fly in front of me

What did they want?


GravatarAnybody see the new Dr. Who last
night?
steve simels

it was quite good imho (i'm a huge and finicky fan). i'm sure scifi will rerun it at least a million times.
dirk gently,sociopathetic


We need an index to these comments.

As I was saying:

The interesting change is, in the "original" series he was kicked off Gallifrey for interfering with other planets, and traveled in a wonky and unpredictable TARDIS.

Now he's the last Time Lord, wandering homelessly in a TARDIS that seems to work just fine, thank you.

Not sure what the shift says about the zietgeist, but it says something.


GravatarYou shouldn't drink and drive
DemByDefault |



GravatarI never had sex with that bird.


GravatarOn my way to the store this evening I had 3 wild turkeys fly in front of me.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 5:57 pm | #
==


I got to see two bald eagles playing and diving along the river here the other day, as I drove on the river road and kept up with them. It's not an unusual thing to see here.


GravatarI'm invincible! The Blac Cnight always triumphs!
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket


i've cut your leg off!


GravatarReferences to Zionist mofos in AIPAC
are a little too close to references to
the International Jewish Conspiracy.
Rhetorically speaking.

I read something the other day, I think in Salon's review of K. Phillips' new book, that in the eighties a large plurality of farmers blamed "international Jewish bankers" for the rash of rural bankruptcies. And yes, I do mean the 1980s.


GravatarOn my way to the store this evening I had 3 wild turkeys fly in front of me

I have a whole damned herd of them in the backyard. Wake me up at first light.


Gravatarwatertiger ...

Friend just tried to go to Trader Joe's. Said she literally could not get in the store. They were not letting more people in: fire hazard.


GravatarI got to see two bald eagles playing and diving along the river

I read that as "driving" and thought WTF?


GravatarThe natural habitat of morons is GOPland.


GravatarWhich I figure reflects the body-politic in general.

But Bush (via Reagan) has made the subject impossible to ignore.


Whatever happened to all the Republicans that where afraid of JFK and his Catholicism in 1960?


GravatarTake 11 min and 19 seconds out of your life and watch this.

Link's hung up. Seems to be /.'d


GravatarI'm pretty sure that condorkets are related to ocelots.


GravatarI read something the other day, I think in Salon's review of K. Phillips' new book, that in the eighties a large plurality of farmers blamed "international Jewish bankers" for the rash of rural bankruptcies. And yes, I do mean the 1980s.
DemByDefault


Spend a little time in the "heartland." It's not so strange a concept.

Offensive. Irrational. Dead wrong. But not strange. To them.


GravatarFrom Wikipedia.

Marie Jean Antoine Nicolas Caritat, marquis de Condorcet (September 17, 1743 - March 28, 1794) was a French philosopher, mathematician, and early political scientist who devised the concept of a Condorcet method. Ahead of his time in many respects, he advocated a liberal economy, free and equal public education, constitutional justice, and equal rights for women and people of all races. His ideas and writings embodied the ideals of the Enlightenment and rationalism, and remain influential to this day.


Gravatarn the eighties a large plurality of farmers blamed "international
Jewish bankers" for the rash of rural bankruptcies. And yes, I do mean the
1980s.
DemByDefault | 03.18.06 - 6:01 pm | #


Absolutely true.

Ah, the Reagan years -- good times!!!!


GravatarNow he's the last Time Lord, wandering homelessly in a TARDIS that seems to work just fine, thank you.

how can one be the last time lord? think about it.

i quite liked the plastic invasion of earth. seemed a deliberate parallel to me, but then i'm oversensative.


GravatarWLIB will still be on the air I don't know which shows will be on.


GravatarFriend just tried to go to Trader Joe's. Said she literally could not get in the store. They were not letting more people in: fire hazard.

Isn't today the first Saturday that it's open?


GravatarI liked the new Dr. Who also. They spent more on special effects in those two shows than they did in the entire previous 30 years of the show (and they weren't that great last night).


Gravatardirk gently,sociopathetic:

I thought the bit where the garbage
can ate the guy was priceless.


GravatarWLIB will still be on the air I don't know which shows will be on.


At this opint, I think Franken is just using AA as a platform to run for Senate. Janeane Garofolo seems to have lost interest. I do like sam Sader though


GravatarLink's hung up. Seems to be /.'d


Sorry - works for me. Its a Katrina video from, of all people, the great wine shop I go to in the American Can Company. Mid City.


Gravatar They spent more on special effects in those two shows than they did in the entire previous 30 years of the show

which was almost disappointing. glad they didn't mess with the theme music too much.

the only issue i had with it was how he dealt with cassandra at the end. very un-doctorish. tom baker would have offered her jelly-babies.


GravatarKelly O'Donnell always finds a good word to say about our extremely unpopular, never duly elected, court appointed, illegitimate bastard president-of-sorts.


GravatarWhat about orcs?

They're actually made from elves, with just a dash of torture.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 5:55 pm


Genetic engineering gone very, very bad.

Mmm, maybe I should take a break from Buffy and watch Fellowship tonight ...


GravatarJaneane Garofolo seems to have lost interest.

I hope she hasn't lost interest in me.


GravatarIf Al Franken is just using his show as a platform we might listen again; it would be an improvement. Seder's pulling three times his weight.


GravatarReferences to Zionist mofos in AIPAC
are a little too close to references to
the International Jewish Conspiracy.
Rhetorically speaking.
==

I can understand that, but they do seem to be almost uniformly ardent in their Zionism, it does appear to be one of the motivators of their policy decisions, and I don't think it helps anything to not acknowledge that. Perhaps not to call them mofos at the same time would be more sensitive, but then they are that too.


Gravatari enjoyed the new Dr Who last year.


Gravatarthe great wine shop I go to in the American Can Company. Mid City.
lb0313 | 03.18.06 - 6:06 pm | #


Oh, how I miss my city!


GravatarSean Patrick with a rattle vs. Ditka with a tireiron.

Tough to call.


Gravatar i enjoyed the new Dr Who last year.

Well la-di-da!



Gravatar His ideas and writings embodied the ideals of the Enlightenment and rationalism, and remain influential to this day.
Doug


Should read "and had remained influential up until this day."


GravatarAt this opint, I think Franken is just using AA as a platform to run for Senate.

Is he from Minnesota?


Gravatarhow can one be the last time lord? think about it.
Yeah, it put me in mind (for the first time ever in that series) of the Tralfamadorians.

Surely the Time Lords saw that one coming? (the war that wiped them out, I mean.)


Gravatar They were not letting more people in: fire hazard.

holy crap!


Gravatar They spent more on special effects in those two shows than they did in the entire previous 30 years of the show

i was a bit put off by the only black guy being the first to die.


[no spoilers!]


GravatarI do like sam Sader though

Seder?

Rachel Maddow, though she's a bit in love with herself, has a pretty good show [I'd enjoy it more if she'd dump some of the annoying sound effects and not say her names 100 times each day], as do Mark Riley and Laura Flanders.


GravatarAmen, evacuee, amen

I just tried the link from here still works for me.....


Gravatari enjoyed the new Dr Who last year.
Moonbootica, Praetor


I suspect I was enjoying it before you were born.

So there.



Gravatari enjoyed the new Dr Who last year.

live in england? or have a tardis?


GravatarRats.

I meant enjoying the "old" series.

It's time to retire, obviously.


GravatarMarie Jean Antoine Nicolas Caritat, marquis de Condorcet (September 17, 1743 - March 28, 1794) was a French philosopher,

Are you saying that NTodd is a girly man?


GravatarIf Al Franken is just using his show as a platform we might listen again; it would be an improvement. Seder's pulling three times his weight.

I've just been listening to him again after a long pause, he seems to devote teh entire first hour to his gags. He gets off about three in sixty minutes, with labored set-ups and commercials. Shame to, since he lands such good guests.

Oh, and Al: We heard you do USO tours. Its great, now shut up about it.


GravatarOops - didn't realize they showed two eps last night. Is Sci-fi running the Doctor Who Confidential series as well?


Gravatarthe only issue i had with it was how he dealt with cassandra at the end. very un-doctorish. tom baker would have offered her jelly-babies.

True enough. Overall it was still Dr. Whoish enough for me to like it.


GravatarI was happy with the new Doctor Who. Was all that stuff about his planet being destroyed part the last series that I missed?


GravatarI suspect I was enjoying it before you were born.

RMJ is a Time Lord!


GravatarWe have wild turkeys pass through here often. They act like they own the place.

NTodd, do you also go hunting for elderly Texas lawyers?

I would highly recommend to those who are disturbed by the idea of religion mixed with politics to pay a visit to www.sojourners.com I am very impressed by Jim Wallis and his work.


GravatarGenetic engineering gone very, very bad.

Just sloppy mass production. If Sauron or Saruman, would reduce the number they made by even 10 percent, and add on an competent QC department, they'd be almost as well constructed as elves.


Gravatarand can't wait for the new series this easter


GravatarSurely the Time Lords saw that one coming? (the war that wiped them out, I mean.)
Rmj, Wandering Aengus |


yeah, hadn't any of them gone that far into the future? and why doesn't the doctor just go back?

more interesting question - what about the master?


GravatarRMJ is a Time Lord!



Jelly baby?


GravatarOn c-span2 now:
The Reckoning: Iraq and the Legacy of Saddam Hussein
Sandra Mackey

Description: Sandra Mackey asserts that defeating Saddam Hussein is not the answer to Iraq's problems. She sat down in 2002 to discuss her book "The Reckoning." Ms. Mackey chronicles both the history of Iraq and the career of Saddam Hussein and explains why she believes it is a bad idea for America to invade the country.

Author Bio: Sandra Mackey has appeared as a commentator on Middle East events on CNN, BBC and CBC. She is the author of "The Saudis: Inside the Desert Kingdom," "Lebanon: Death of a Nation," "Passion and Politics: The Turbulent World of the Arabs" and "The Iranians: Persia, Islam and the Soul of a Nation."


GravatarI read something the other day, I think in Salon's review of K. Phillips' new book, that in the eighties a large plurality of farmers blamed "international Jewish bankers" for the rash of rural bankruptcies. And yes, I do mean the 1980s.
DemByDefault


Yuppers, and it is why Feingold will never be prez. However, if it is a choice between Condi and Feingold. Heehee. Watch a whole bunch of heads explode.

Hillary has been a good senator for NY. She is about my tenth choice, but if she is the nominee, I will vote and support her in any way I can.


GravatarAre you saying that NTodd is a girly man?

Wouldn't be the first time.


GravatarJaneane Garofolo seems to have lost interest.

I hope she hasn't lost interest in me.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket
==

My god you're a glutton for punishment.


GravatarShould read "and had remained influential up until this day."

Lime Rickey, it's from wikipedia, which isn't perfect, just useful.


GravatarWe have wild turkeys pass through here often. They act like they own the place.

Jameson has the same effect.


GravatarJust dropping in to say hello, but, marone, this is a weird thred!



(Mis-spell on porpoise..so there)


GravatarAt this opint, I think Franken is just using AA as a platform to run for Senate.

Is he from Minnesota?

He did get off a good one the other day on Letterman, he said if he runs against Coleman, Franken will be the only New York Jew in the race who was born in Minnesota.

So the answer to your question is yes.

I like Rachel Maddow, but that's too early in the am for me. i like to see her on Suckwadder Carlson, 'cause she scares him and they both know it.


GravatarNTodd, do you also go hunting for elderly Texas lawyers?

No, they can't survive in our environment in VT. Instead, we hunt carpetbaggers from MA.


GravatarSteve, I understand perfectly, but I am not one to conflate Jews with Zionists or AIPAC, which have their share of non- or even anti-semitic supporters, with ulterior motives of the most nefarious kind. Lately, I've finally realized that the folks that run the world care not about religion, color, creed or race. They all hang out with each other and the common bonds are MONEY and power. Ancient family dynasties have established control over the banks, and the International Jewish Conspiracy is the same whipping boy that the Mason or Catholics or whatever are, just jealousy and hatred on the part of outsiders. Soliciting votes from any religious bloc should be worth instant ejection from the electoral process, and it's way past time that the churches, synagogues and mosques paid their fair share of taxes.


Gravatarholy crap!
watertiger


You'd think we never saw a grocery store. But the truth is, we have had shitty choices: either scummy, smelling stores like D'Agostino or Gristedes or Met -- or (y)upscale uber-pricey food temples a la Holier-Than-Thou Foods, Balduccis, or Citarella. Now, with Trader Joe's and Fairway we have some affordable options.


GravatarMy god you're a glutton for punishment.

You're just figuring that out?


Gravatar(Mis-spell on porpoise..so there) -revenant, wanderin' wraith

Must be a dauphin.


GravatarIsn't today the first Saturday that it's open?

Yes, it opened yesterday. Tigre and I and HoneyBear K. and Kenosha were there last night. It was semi-crazy, but manageable, by NYC standards anyway.


Gravatarres ipsa:

Where is this Trader Joes of which
you speak?


Gravatarthe Tesco here in Swansea has a lock down on the student population

it is right next to the bus station


GravatarWe watched The History of Violence last night. I liked it.


Gravatarrevenant, wanderin' wraith

Great nom de blogue


GravatarWorst. President. EVER!


GravatarMaybe the Time Lords were all retroactively erased from the time line (except for this iteration of the Dr)?


GravatarHolier-Than-Thou Foods,

I remember it when it was a little store in Austin that flooded so regularly we called it "Whole Floods." Used to love going in there to get something for lunch, when it meant walking down the hill from the office.

Then it went public.


GravatarAnybody hear about Spitzer being razzed for comparing NNY to Appalacia?

You don't solve problems by ignoring him. People up here are poor, ther are few jobs, and little opportunity. I have a very good job, but would have an impossible time trying to replace it. I'm glad he called it like it is. Maybe Albany and NYC will pay attention...not.


Gravatar(Mis-spell on porpoise..so there) -revenant, wanderin' wraith

Must be a dauphin.


Prince of tides?


GravatarHe did get off a good one the other day on Letterman, he said if he runs against Coleman, Franken will be the only New York Jew in the race who was born in Minnesota.

Oh. I came in as Letterman asked him to explain Jesse Ventura. Great answer and the audience went wild when he said something to effect of "Clinton was president and all was right with the world" Ha!


GravatarThen it went public.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:14 pm | #


Whole Foods is publicly traded?


Gravatarsimels ...

14th Street, between 3rd and 4th. South side 'o the street.


Gravatari have a bunch of william hartnel and patrick troughton episodes on vhs. and a poster in my office of 'dr qui dans tardis', with tom baker posing in this talouse lautrec composition.

i'm a geek.


GravatarI watched The Apostle last night, at least the first hour of it (meds---sleepy). It's even better than I thought it would be so far.


Gravatar...it opened yesterday. Tigre and I and HoneyBear K. and Kenosha were there last night. It was semi-crazy, but manageable, by NYC standards anyway.

My wife works right next door to a Trader Joe's. Many are the times I've wandered the nearly-deserted aisles waiting for her to get off work...

Not trying to rub it in or anything!


GravatarArmitage may come under scrutiny in CIA leak trial

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A former top State Department official suspected of being the first person to discuss the identity of a CIA official with reporters is expected to testify in the perjury trial of ex-vice presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby, a court motion says.

The filing by Libby's defense team late on Friday asks Judge Reggie Walton to force prosecutors to turn over material they have about likely witnesses including former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.

Others who are expected to testify include White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, former CIA director George Tenet and former Secretary of State Colin Powell, the document says.


GravatarNTodd:

Please don't pun-ish me!


GravatarRMJ is a Time Lord!



Jelly baby?
lb0313


Well, I had the scarf for awhile.


GravatarHillary has been a good senator for NY. She is about my tenth choice, but if she is the nominee, I will vote and support her in any way I can.
ql in ny


thank you


GravatarAre you saying that NTodd is a girly man?

He does appear to like girls...


GravatarI'm more of a Jack Daniels man myself


GravatarRMJ - The original Dallas Whole Foods started life as a tiny health food place called Bluebonnet Foods. When Safeway left Dallas, Bluebonnet moved into the old Safeway store a block up from where they had been.

Then Whole Foods bought Bluebonnet.

And it was never the same again. Ah well -


GravatarThen it went public.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:14 pm | #

Whole Foods is publicly traded?
Evacuee


Oh,heck yeah.

That's how it spread from Austin, and got so uppity.


Gravatar(Mis-spell on porpoise..so there) -revenant, wanderin' wraith

Must be a dauphin.

Prince of tides?

Peggy Noonan-Streisand?


Gravatarlater gators! Don't forget to shoot plastic people in the face.


GravatarAt this opint, I think Franken is just using AA as a platform to run for Senate.

I have this feeling that if Franken ran and win we'd hate him. I hate how he's always sucking up to his "friends" like Rich Lowry and G. Gordon Liddy. He loves John Dickerson and a lot of other media whores.


GravatarThen it went public.

Same thing with Borders. Used to be a fantastic book shop in Ann Arbor Michigan, staffed by U of M grad students who collectively knew about just every book ever published.

Then it went public.


Gravatar...ex-vice presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby...

Ummmm, shouldn't that be ex-vice presidential chief of staff and advisor to the president? Why does he suddenly seem like such a low man on the totem pole?


GravatarDroppin' back out.

Have a good one, all.

And, you, too, Sundry.


GravatarIn the event anyone wants to know,

I (heart) geeks.


GravatarVery fortunate in Boulder to have not only Whole Foods but Wild Oats (their main competitor, started here) and a couple smaller locals and co-ops. I don't shop there much, but I'll say this for Whole Foods: if you're a trustafarian thirtysomething in the market for a physically and morally flexible Naropa chick, head for the produce section.


GravatarHolier-Than-Thou foods is good when items are on sale. But the rest of the inventory, while good quality and often delicious, is stupidly overpriced, even for here.


GravatarHolier-Than-Thou Foods...

More like "More-Fucking-Expensive-Than-Anywhere-Else -Even-Though-a-Good-50%-Of-Our-Produce-Is-The- Same-Mass-Produced-Pesticide-Laden-Crap-You-Get- At-Safeway Foods".

IMHO...


Gravatarthe Body Shop was recently brought by L'Oreal for £652m


GravatarPeace out - gotta go to work.


GravatarI thought John Brunner convincingly (for me, anyway, in "Times Without Number") demonstrated that a universe that contained both humans and time travel couldn't exist, or at least not for long.

This Dr. Who of whom you speak must be fictional.


GravatarI have this feeling that if Franken ran and win we'd hate him.

I don't know....he's a pretty scrappy New Dealer type, and he gets genuinely angry when he tallks to his Dittohead friend (who's as big an asshole as Rush). I think his biggest pitfall as a campaigner is his tendency to start weeping.


GravatarIn the event anyone wants to know,

I (heart) geeks.
Shaw Kenawe |


geeks (heart) you as well.

this one does, anyway.


Gravatar...but I'll say this for Whole Foods: if you're a trustafarian thirtysomething in the market for a physically and morally flexible Naropa chick, head for the produce section.

Heh, here the Columbus Circle Holier-Than-Thou Foods is a bourgeois fun-fest on a Friday evening. Every stroller-weilding Upper West Sider heads there on Friday night to promenade amidst the organic artichokes.


GravatarI thought John Brunner convincingly (for me, anyway, in "Times Without Number") demonstrated that a universe that contained both humans and time travel couldn't exist, or at least not for long.

This Dr. Who of whom you speak must be fictional.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:20 pm | #


he's not human.


GravatarMaybe Albany and NYC will pay attention...not.
revenant,


NYC pretty much supports the rest of the state, and has never gotten its fair share of the education allocations. Yet we down here always vote blue, while the upstaters vote red. I don't really think you can hang this on us.


GravatarWhole Foods is publicly traded?
Evacuee



Oh yeah.


GravatarI don't know....he's a pretty scrappy New Dealer type, and he gets genuinely angry when he tallks to his Dittohead friend (who's as big an asshole as Rush).

It's hard to believe he's friends with that guy. That guy is utterly dense.


GravatarHolier-Than-Thou foods is good when items are on sale. But the rest of the inventory, while good quality and often delicious, is stupidly overpriced, even for here.
res ipsa loquitur


we are supposedly getting a joe's here soon. i here good things?


GravatarFrench protesters give ultimatum to scrap job law

PARIS (Reuters) - Half a million protesters took to the streets across France on Saturday to demand the scrapping of a new law they fear will erode job security, and trade union and student leaders gave the government 48 hours to comply.

Issuing their ultimatum, the leaders said they might decide on a one-day general strike unless the government withdrew the law by Monday evening.

President Jacques Chirac and Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin would "bear full responsibility for social tensions that might follow" if they failed to meet the deadline, the leaders said.

The marches were mostly festive and peaceful, but dozens of youths pelted police with missiles, set a car ablaze and smashed a shop window at the end of the main protest in Paris. Police cleared them from Nation square with many rounds of tear gas.

Scattered violence was also reported in Marseille, Rennes and Lille, where police also charged and teargassed crowds.


GravatarNYC pretty much supports the rest of the state, and has never gotten its fair share of the education allocations. Yet we down here always vote blue, while the upstaters vote red.

Microcosm of the f**king country if ya aks me.


GravatarDr. Who isn't human? Learn something every day.


GravatarThen it went public.
==

I won't bore everybody with how much I love real hardware stores, but even without my recent appliance drama with one of the big box chains, I haaaaate them. And now there are no more real hardware stores.


GravatarTrader Joe's Web site says of its 142 East 14th Street store: *Wine not available at this location.

That's a shame.


GravatarWhole Foods broke the union in SF by closing down the store.


GravatarBTW, I'm happy to say about a year or so ago, Whole Foods tried to take over a small organic produce store in a neighborhood of San Francisco. They were complete dicks about it - taking over in secret, then pretending the original owners were going out of business, so they could lay off the union employees, then immediately making all the union workers "reapply" for their old jobs at much less pay and no benefits.

The neighborhood banded together and never let the fuckers reopen the store. Chased them out completely.

Fuck you, Whole Foods.


GravatarDr. Who isn't human? Learn something every day.
Moe Szyslak


he's from planet gallifrey.

i went to gallifrey university for four years, but in the wrong order.


GravatarThe original Whole Foods was very much a "hippie" food store. No sugar originally, and then only the unrefined stuff, etc., etc.

I knew it was lost when I found powdered sugar on the shelves.


Gravatar
More like "More-Fucking-Expensive-Than-Anywhere-Else -Even-Though-a-Good-50%-Of-Our-Produce-Is-The- Same-Mass-Produced-Pesticide-Laden-Crap-You-Get- At-Safeway Foods".


Dave, I've looked them up on the different liberal investment sites and that site where you could check different places where you shop for their ratings on a bunch of liberal issues. Whole Foods doesn't lie about the stuff they sell. They tell you when something isn't organic. Yeah, they're expensive.


Gravatarwell, the aleve isn't working. guess i'll try those three wild turkeys.


Gravatardave™© 'splained it better than moi.


GravatarIs Whole Foods Wholesom? Dark Secrets of the Organic Food Movement.


GravatarHeh, here the Columbus Circle Holier-Than-Thou Foods is a bourgeois fun-fest on a Friday evening.

If you time it right, you can manage an entire meal from the free samples. But since my local Costco carries more than a few organic staples I have little need of them. There's a co-op closer and with as large a bulk food section for all my nutritional yeast needs.


GravatarI won't bore everybody with how much I love real hardware stores, but even without my recent appliance drama with one of the big box chains, I haaaaate them. And now there are no more real hardware stores.
mena | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:22 pm | #


I'm with you on real hardware stores. There was a genuine hardware store and a genuine bike repair shop within walking distance of my place in New Orleans. They were fantastic. The hardware guy gave great advice, and the bike guy would do repairs in under an hour for under five dollars. I used to pay him twice what he charged just because I thought he was worth it.


GravatarDr. Who's on first.


GravatarI have this feeling that if Franken ran and win we'd hate him.

Yeah. He'd be an establishment politician, I think.

I haven't been to the Whole Paychecks store at Union Square.


GravatarI thought John Brunner convincingly (for me, anyway, in "Times Without Number") demonstrated that a universe that contained both humans and time travel couldn't exist, or at least not for long.

This Dr. Who of whom you speak must be fictional.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:20 pm | #


Kurt Godel (the greatest logician since Aristotle, author of a Theorem of Incompleteness that re-wrote modern philosophy, and friend to Einstein at Princeton) developed a theory that proved time does not exist. A bit of a problem for relativity theory, which he was working from.

Not sure what that does to Brunner's theory.


GravatarTrader Joe's Web site says of its 142 East 14th Street store: *Wine not available at this location.

There's a wine store. It's not open yet.


GravatarThe Ancient Romans disapproved of trade and it was looked down upon.

but this didn't stop the aristocrats from making money out of it, the just used intermiderties like slaves to conduct their buisness for them.

a class was formed the Equites who had business intrest in various parts of the Roman Empire and when they were threatended they would pressurize the senate to act.

for instance Jurgurth masscred the inhabitants which included traders in Cirta and the Equites demmaned action for their loss of business.


GravatarWhy can't we have a general strike to protest this stupid war in Iraq?

I know. I'm dreaming.


GravatarTrader Joe's Web site says of its 142 East 14th Street store: *Wine not available at this location.

but do they have blue cheese stuffed olives?


GravatarHerr, es ist Zeit.

Auf wiedersehen, mes amis.


GravatarThe Ancient Romans disapproved of trade and it was looked down upon.

but this didn't stop the aristocrats from making money out of i

Plus ça change....


GravatarFranken would be better than Norm Coleman. Of course so would we, or dith, or the period at the end of this sentence, but you know what we mean.


GravatarKurt Godel (the greatest logician since Aristotle, author of a Theorem of Incompleteness that re-wrote modern philosophy, and friend to Einstein at Princeton) developed a theory that proved time does not exist. A bit of a problem for relativity theory, which he was working from.

according to ford prefect, time is an illusion. lunch-time doubly so.


Gravatarwell, the aleve isn't working. guess i'll try those three wild turkeys.
dirk gently,sociopathetic


dirk,

why are you hurtin'?

PS. What is a group of turkeys called? (NYTimes puzzle cue today).


GravatarWhy can't we have a general strike to protest this stupid war in Iraq?


I can't evn imagine a citywide general strike in this country.


GravatarFascinating: Trader Joe's opened in both NYC and ABQ in the same week!


Gravatarwell, the aleve isn't working. guess i'll try those three wild turkeys.
dirk gently,sociopathetic | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:24 pm | #


Aleve is for girls. Take Tylenol and aspirin together with a caffeinated drink. Pain killer for men.


Gravatarres ipsa--I never shop at Holier Than Thou Foods. The owner's a raging libertarian and union buster.


GravatarAnd the Body Shop-- I have an essay around here somewhere, written by a suspect journalist, to be sure (forget the name off-hand), that claims the whole business was a scam. I'll find it if anyone is interested.


Gravatarwe are supposedly getting a joe's here soon. i here good things?

I got 5 dinners worth of food last night, plus a huge can 'o coffee for $18. That is cheap here.


GravatarFranken would be better than Norm Coleman. Of course so would we, or dith, or the period at the end of this sentence, but you know what we mean.
k&y


The same thing I'm saying about Hillary. If it is a choice between Allen and Hillary, are any of you going to vote for Allen?


GravatarWhy can't we have a general strike to protest this stupid war in Iraq?



No, no, no.


GravatarMorton Kondracke appears to think
that Bill Frist could someday be
president.


You're too stupid to live, Mort.


GravatarWhen Whole Foods bought Bluebonnet, and for a number of years afterward, it was still full of goth kids and punks and cashiers with facial piercings and shaved heads(girls). Local musicians and the people who run the local Hare Krishna Temple's vegetarian restaurant shopped there.

Now it's all retirees, and tourists cluttering up the fucking aisles just for the hell of it. It's pathetic.


GravatarWhole Foods was always holier-than-thou (well, it's customers were), but back in the day, the customers were hippies.

Austin has always had a problem with people who were too hip for the room. It's overrun with them.

Whole Foods attracted them, then went upscale, and attracted yuppies. Still does. But I prefer their meat and organic produce and most items (cage free eggs, organic milk, etc.), and just go when it's quiet and the snobs aren't standing in your way as if they own the place.

Nothing gold can stay, after all.


Gravatarthey would pressurize the senate to act.

They would pressure the Senate to act. Pressurizing the Senate is a different process, resulting in exploding or impoding purple-stripes.
It is an experience reading Moon's blog and realizing you can't take for granted that all English are always better than us at English.


GravatarYeah. He'd be an establishment politician, I think.

maybe. but on the other hand, he was paul wellstone's biggest fan (in the media, at least), so maybe he'd surprise you.

his last book was very good, much more from the heart and raised him in my estimation.


GravatarI have an essay around here somewhere, written by a suspect journalist, to be sure (forget the name off-hand), that claims the whole business was a scam

That piece appears in a book called "Killed: Journalism Too Hot to Print." The whole book is worthwhile.


GravatarPS. What is a group of turkeys called?
==

A flock? How many letters?


Gravatargaggle


GravatarYou live and learn. At any rate, you live. --D.Adams


GravatarWhole Foods doesn't lie about the stuff they sell. They tell you when something isn't organic.

Oh, I know that. But they still charge organic prices for the shit that's labeled not organic. And out here, anyway, it's the same crap grown in Calexico they're selling at Safeway.

Having a rabbit, I'm very cognizant of produce prices! I can recite them from memory...


GravatarIt's hard to believe he's friends with that guy. That guy is utterly dense. -res

When Franken did his show here his friend Mark came up from Denver with his kids. His son is actually a pretty good fiddle player (you may have heard him promoting the Rocky Mountain fiddle camp). I don't think he's dense so much as typical of the neoRepublican mindset: start with a worldview that you find morally appealing and then selectively attend only to those aspects of the world around you that fit it. Disregard everything else, or, when that doesn't work, fold spindle and mutilate reality till you think it fits. Also, be sure to call everyone who disagrees with you a liar and/or moron.


GravatarPS. What is a group of turkeys called?
==

A flock? How many letters?
mena


6 letters beginning with "r"


Gravatarql in ny | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:29 pm |

Hillary is different. The DLC must be destroyed. It is actively interested in destroying too much so long as it breathes still.


Gravatarres ipsa--I never shop at Holier Than Thou Foods. The owner's a raging libertarian and union buster.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


A perfect description of the weird Texas cum hippie ethos of Austin.

Or part of it, anyway. The part that found money.


GravatarThe owner's a raging libertarian and union buster.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:28 pm | #


Can one person be both? Wouldn't a raging libertarian respect the rights of workers to form collective bargaining units?


GravatarThe same thing I'm saying about Hillary. If it is a choice between Allen and
Hillary, are any of you going to vote for Allen?
ql in ny | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:29 pm | #


If those are my choices, I'm blowing
my brains out.


GravatarBTW, Tena, speaking of organic produce, I have three words for you:

Co-op on Shattuck.


GravatarThat piece appears in a book called "Killed: Journalism Too Hot to Print." The whole book is worthwhile.
res ipsa loquitur


That's the book I have. Yep, great.


Gravatardirk--blue cheese stuffed olives frequent the shelves at Joe's. And many other varieties of olives with stuffing.


Gravatar...and just go when it's quiet and the snobs aren't standing in your way as if they own the place.

That would preclude ever visiting a Holier-Than-Thou Foods here. (Although we don't call them "snobs." We call them transplanted surburbanites feigning native-NYer status.)


GravatarThe same thing I'm saying about Hillary. If it is a choice between Allen and Hillary, are any of you going to vote for Allen?

I said earlier, I'm not a Hillary hater, I just wish she would stop tapdancing. Every once in a while she shows flashes of guts and principle, and I suspect that deep down she's a true believer and a good person, but she watched what Bill did and she's got Bob Shrum (or some odious variant thereof) whispering in her ear, so I'm afraid we'll get shit like school prayer and the jury still beign out on evolution.


GravatarAleve is for girls. Take Tylenol and aspirin together with a caffeinated drink. Pain killer for men.
Evacuee


well, excedrin is the best (programmer's friend). too bad quicktabs aren't available here anymore.

ever try goodys headache powder?

but muscle strain is different, alieve is better for inflammation i'm told.

hey, i've got a jar of corn whiskey! that'll do it!


Gravatar247,000 protesters participated in nearly 200 marches across the country -- a test of strength between France's youth and the conservative government

Paris Protests

Wonder if Chirac was spirited off to some dark, underground 'secret location'? But maybe thats just us...

.


Gravatargaggle
DWD


That, I believe, is a group of white-breasted scottie suckers.


GravatarPS. What is a group of turkeys called? (NYTimes puzzle cue today).

Rafter.


GravatarEvacuee--no, that would contradict the 'free market' and 'every critter for himself' that is seemingly built into their philosophical constructs.


GravatarAAR just played some tape of McCain blathering about how Feingold's censure resolution "could destroy the Democrat [sic] party."

Fuck you, John McCain.


Gravataraccording to ford prefect, time is an illusion. lunch-time doubly so.
dirk gently,sociopathetic


It's true.


Gravatarthe Equites were a powerful pressure group who made a lot of money for the Roma Republic yet they did not even get political represenation which annoyed them no end.

Caius Gracchus put the Equites in charge of the law courts and they acted impartially when their own interests were not threatened.


Gravatar3) There is absolutely no flirting allowed, unless it is wrapped in bacon.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket | Homepage - 5:44 pm


You mean something like, "Hey, baby, why don't you hop on over here and nibble my Texas Tommy until the cheese melts afresh?"

Am I at least headed in the right direction?


GravatarDon't know fer sure, however....
steve simels | 03.18.06 - 5:49 pm


akshully, i think the WLIB part is true...


GravatarPS. What is a group of turkeys called?
==

6 letters beginning with "r"


"Republicans" has 11 letters.


Gravatar6 letters beginning with "r"
Shaw Kenawe |


can't be "rasher" , that's bacon.


GravatarAAR just played some tape of McCain blathering about how Feingold's censure resolution "could destroy the Democrat [sic] party."



but, we agree.


GravatarPS. What is a group of turkeys called?

C-o-n-g-r-e-s-s.


GravatarI got 5 dinners worth of food last night, plus a huge can 'o coffee for $18. That is cheap here.

If you'd gone with tofu, you could have gotten all that, plus the coffee for half the price.

And fed twice as many!


GravatarWouldn't a raging libertarian respect the rights of workers to form collective bargaining units?

Nope, Libertarians are often such because they have a hard time playing nice with the other children and are particularly bad at sharing. They don't like collective anything.


GravatarAAR just played some tape of McCain blathering about how Feingold's censure resolution "could destroy the Democrat [sic] party."

Fuck you, John McCain.
res ipsa loquitur


If a GOP politician says such things, clearly we should continue doing them.

They aren't giving Dems advice for their own good, after all.


Gravatarjive turkeys?


Gravatark&y in my defence i have just drunk a whole bottle of wine so my spelling won't be perfect ok.


GravatarIt's a rafter (I cheated).


Gravatardirk--blue cheese stuffed olives frequent the shelves at Joe's. And many other varieties of olives with stuffing.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


then i for one welcome my new trader overlords.


GravatarThen there's the fact that prices at Whole Foods are insanely high. LA's not cheap, but I've had total sticker shock in the past upon visiting one.


GravatarAAR just played some tape of McCain blathering about how Feingold's censure
resolution "could destroy the Democrat [sic] party."


Dream on, asshole.

The polls show a plurality of
voters are in favor of censure....


Gravatar6 letters beginning with "r"
Shaw Kenawe |

can't be "rasher" , that's bacon.
dirk gently,sociopathetic


So, that would be a group of pigs?


GravatarI'm on no-booze meds and just got an overpowering physical craving for beaujolais. Not cheap red wine, specifically beaujolais. I think I need to go lie down.


GravatarWouldn't a raging libertarian respect the rights of workers to form collective bargaining units?

I could see a self-described libertarian being against regulation of business that benefits workers.


GravatarHillary is different. The DLC must be destroyed. It is actively interested in destroying too much so long as it breathes still.
k&y


I agree with you, but first we have to get rid of the repukes. Then we can worry about cleaning house. Any Democrat is better than a repuke. I've never voted for an anti-choice candidate, but I may have to this time round. And I will. I'll feel like I'm being gutted alive, but I will.


GravatarMutualist Blog: Free Market Anti-Capitalism


GravatarOh, THIS is where you are.


GravatarWhat is a group of turkeys called?

The Whittington family


Gravatark&y in my defence i have just drunk a whole bottle of wine so my spelling won't be perfect ok.
Moonbootica


I knew you were drinking. That's why I like you so. I'm not flirting, btw. Just drinking myself.


GravatarIf you'd gone with tofu, you could have gotten all that, plus the coffee for half the price. And fed twice as many! -dave

That just never stops being funny to me!


GravatarRafter.
masculine_monica_nyc |


no turkeys in my rafters. lots of squirrels, though. mrs g thinks there are flying squirrels up there, i don't know why. although it does sound like they are travelling with a moose.


GravatarThe polls show a plurality of
voters are in favor of censure....
steve simels



never gonna happen.


Gravatarits a Chilean Merlot which is 14.0%


GravatarHoly merde!!

Check out the action in Paris today.

(Clips of protests on news. Tear gas. Water cannons.)


GravatarThe polls show a plurality of
voters are in favor of censure....

not according to Newsweek.


GravatarHeh.


GravatarRafter.
masculine_monica_nyc


Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

Give that lady a drumstick!


GravatarI read that the student riots in Paris have caused far more damage than the 'arab' riots of a few months ago, yet al-Foxeera doesn't seem as interested. I wonder why.....


Gravatarnot according to Newsweek.
Great Scott


the tory press?


GravatarAny Democrat is better than a repuke.

given that jow and zell aren't democrats.

seen in readers digest: an interview with two senators with very different views on iraq. any guesses?









mccain and biden.


GravatarI heard it was 49% for, 46% against.


GravatarI love Whole Foods. Did you see the article in Slate? http://www.slate.com/id/2138176/

I responded to the author that sustainable agriculture can't be bought cheap, and if you go buy the products at an organic (local) farm, you'll have to pay. It doesn't really bother me that Whole Foods teaches people that food's not free if it's done sustainably and with some concern for animals.


GravatarGive that lady a drumstick!
Shaw Kenawe


i'm a leg man myself.


GravatarThe Bubble Squad: Shape-shifting Republican operatives impersonate reporters and the Secret Service.

Don't worry about a thing, though. It's just another parallel Republican institution with unknown authority that works in secret.


GravatarHeh. Those French kids are protesting because the gov't wants to make them at-will employees (albeit after two years).

Welcome to my world, mes amis.


GravatarPrepare to hear from such "liberals" as the Daily Show how the evil Jimmy Carter, who took away our energy and killed all the unicorns, hates Jews.
Alternately you could cruise the top nine lesbian dreamgirls, which is not a minyan because somebody for some strange reason has overweight former rapper Queen Latifah in there.
(First of all, there are black women other than Queen Latifah, and second of all, a great many of them are hotter than her majesty.)


Gravatarthen i for one welcome my new trader overlords.
dirk gently,sociopathetic - 6:34 pm


not "Trader Joverlords"?


GravatarNewsweek poll: 42% back Bush censure, 50% against move; 36% approval rating


GravatarAAR does have a crapload of Internet streamers and XM listeners.


GravatarThen there's the fact that prices at Whole Foods are insanely high. LA's not cheap, but I've had total sticker shock in the past upon visiting one.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


It helps me eat at home.

I can't afford to eat out after shopping there.


Gravatar"I've never voted for an anti-choice candidate, but I may have to this time round."

ql: In new york? Spitzer?

And will Boehlert's seat go Dem now?


GravatarI won't bore everybody with how much I love real hardware stores, but even without my recent appliance drama with one of the big box chains, I haaaaate them. And now there are no more real hardware stores.
mena

There is a little family owned hardware shop in my little town thats over a hundred years old. Sill in the same location. They even passed out rifles and ammo to stop a bank robbery once.


Gravatar Tear gas. Water cannons.

I think that was a different protest. They've changed their labor laws.


Gravatar6 letters beginning with "r"
Shaw Kenawe


A ramble?


GravatarSo for all you new Trader Joe-ites out NYC way (and isn't there a Joe's in Jersey?), here's a few tips:

* They've got several jarred "simmer sauces" that are absolutely essential for quick meals. Cacciatore, marsala, spinach curry, and korma are the standards around here. Cook up chicken, pour the sauce over it, let it simmer - voila!

* I mentioned the incredibly addictive pappadum chips earlier.

* The coffee is cheap and good.

* Tuna for cats is 29 cents a can (out here, anyway), and pretty much all tuna.

* When that wine store opens, get the Two-Buck Chuck. The zin's not bad, the cab is pretty noxious, the chard's OK - they're all good for cooking.

* In the frozen section, check out the albacore tuna filets - another quick and easy meal.

* Also in the frozen section, they're selling a burger stuffed with bacon and bleu cheese - a little messy, but pretty good.

* And the Jo-Jo cookies are awesome!


GravatarJust drinking myself. | Moe Szyslak 06 - 6:36 pm

Drinking yourself?

You mean drinking a Flaming Moe, I suppose.


GravatarWhole Foods attracted them, then went upscale, and attracted yuppies. Still does. But I prefer their meat and organic produce and most items (cage free eggs, organic milk, etc.), and just go when it's quiet and the snobs aren't standing in your way as if they own the place.

Nothing gold can stay, after all.


Oh, the original Greenville store is my grocery store. I get everything there except paper and cleaning supplies and cokes and things. The food's better. I'm with you on the eggs. Those are the only eggs I'll buy. You can get them at Kroger, but Kroger charges a lot more than Whole Foods for organic food.


Gravatarits a Chilean Merlot which is 14.0%
Moonbootica, Praetor

Tried any Chilean Malbec's? Strange little grape.


GravatarI responded to the author that sustainable agriculture can't be bought cheap, and if you go buy the products at an organic (local) farm, you'll have to pay.

Everywhere I've ever lived, organic food at the farmers market has always been cheaper than food, organic or not, at any store. I say this with a bit of experience, as someone who sells at the farmers market.


GravatarEvacuee--no, that would contradict the 'free market' and 'every critter for himself' that is seemingly built into their philosophical constructs.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:32 pm | #

Oh, I see.... My mistake.

I though libertarians were opposed to government interference, not individual behavior. I thought collective bargaining arose naturally within the free market. I also thought collective bargaining was a way for 'every critter' to get what was best for himself.

And I considered myself a libertarian for the longest time.


GravatarWhat is a group of turkeys called?

the Bush family?


GravatarI agree with you, but first we have to get rid of the repukes.

To do that,
you need a party.
The reason you don't have a party
is not the rethugs,
but the DLC.


GravatarA ramble?
Lime Rickey | 03.18.06 - 6:40 pm | #


i used to own a rambler. bought it for $50 at a garage sale and drove it for 2 years.


Gravatarmy dad often says the French Gendarmerie are animals.


GravatarWell, if we lose AAR is will be might sad. I think I'll go get drunk now.


Gravatarbut, we agree.
Hillary W. Reid |


wouldn't want to hold the presidenet accountable under the rule of law, or anything-


GravatarFood's not cheap at my local farmer's market (where I always shop in the summer when it's open). Maybe you live in California?


Gravatarand somewhere in the darkness
the rambler he broke even


Gravatar1watt Hermit not yet but I'm sure i will somewhen


GravatarNBC: new poll re Fredo ...

Handling Iraq: 65% disapprove of his handling of Iraq.

Job approval: 36% approval. The rest think he sucks ass.


GravatarI love the S. American Malbecs. Its basically Cahors, isn't it?


GravatarJust drinking myself. | Moe Szyslak 06 - 6:36 pm

Drinking yourself?


if i could do that i'd never leave home.


GravatarMoe, I also buy food directly from farms in my area. Organic food prices are very high around here.


GravatarReally late back, but yes, it is a rafter, as someone said.


GravatarMurtha will be on "Press the Meat" tomorrow per NBC News.


GravatarJob approval: 36% approval. The rest think he sucks ass.

Left-wing wackos.


GravatarThey are just like our National Guard, or were back when it was about "riot" control and not becoming a less trained expeditionary force.


GravatarOkay, Hole Foods is moving into our town. The deal was sealed two days ago. Why should I care? Can they be any worse than Albertsons or Safeway?


Gravatarcould somebody get me a bacon sandwich, please.


GravatarSo many different kinds of wrong.


GravatarThen there's the fact that prices at Whole Foods are insanely high. LA's not cheap, but I've had total sticker shock in the past upon visiting one.

Whole Paycheck.

I get fish from there, because fish from someplace where I don't know when the fuck it was caught freaks me out, but not much else.

Trader Joe's is heaven. Cheap, and the Two Buck Chuck sauvignon blanc is plenty good if it's cold enough. The shiraz blows, though.

A.


GravatarMaybe you live in California?
sola mia


Used to-- Chico, where I discovered farming. But the same situation in Oregon, and even here in Nova Scotia. The price difference will only increase as fuel prices go up.


GravatarCo-op on Shattuck.
dave™©


Um, dave? I'm about 3000 miles from the co-op on Shattuck Ave.

I'll drive 100 miles for groceries, but Berkeley is just a little far. Even with my ice chests I don't think the food would fare too well. I'd have to eat it for provisions on the return trip.


Gravatarcosmosis--they have good quality stuff. But be prepared to pay through the nose for it.


Gravatarciao moonbats

suddenly I feel the need to go play Rome Total War need to conqure some barbarians!


GravatarWoudja pleeze pass the Pig Candy!


GravatarI once got busy in a safeway meat isle


GravatarFinally, the sun has set. I'm off. Nice chatting with y'all.

Sean Patrick for president in 2044!


Gravatarand somewhere in the darkness
the rambler he broke even
olexicon,Sir Humpty


Ramblin' around your city
Ramblin' around your town
I never see a friend I know
As I go ramblin' 'round boys
As I go ramblin' 'round

My mother hoped that I might be
A man of some renown
But I am just a refugee
As I go ramblin' 'round boys
As I go ramblin' 'round


Gravatar Newsweek poll: 42% back Bush censure, 50% against move; 36% approval rating

Yeah, I blogged that earlier today, along with Assmussen's 40%.


GravatarOkay, funsters:

Going out for the ritual Saturday
night quaffing of elitist chardonnay
yada yada yada.

Wang chung in my absence if you're
so inclinded.


GravatarBut what I don't get is how anyone can make a living selling the two buck chuck?


GravatarThe bacon flirtation idea intrigues me.

However, the fact that one usually needs to use toothpicks to secure it gives me more than a little reason to pause.


GravatarWatertiger--awww!


GravatarCan they be any worse than Albertsons or Safeway?

Oh, they'll be better. But you'll pay (and pay and pay and pay) for it.


GravatarSo many different kinds of wrong.
watertiger


And still not enough wrong to touch what's wrong there.

That picture creeps me out no end.


GravatarI'll drive 100 miles for groceries

I have been known to come back from Wisconsin with a trunk full of food. Coffee from my favorite place up in Madison, cheese, sausages, nummy dry cherry wine, beef sticks, you know, the health food.

A.


GravatarI don't mind paying more for organic produce - I expect that. But I do mind paying the same price as organic produce for non-organic produce, esp. when Whole Foods is paying non-union wages.


GravatarFinally, the sun has set. I'm off. Nice chatting with y'all.

Sean Patrick for president in 2044!
Evacuee


Sean Patrick

Our own little blogchild.

Proud to be Sean's blogAuntie.


Gravatarevery major grocery chain is a big rethug contributor, according to BuyBlue.


Gravatarql: In new york? Spitzer?

Spitzer is pro-choice. Very. He's promised to have RU-486 sold in every pharmacy in NYS.

But he is also pro-death penalty.


GravatarTena, maybe we could email Hecate and then call in the strike?


Gravatar The bacon flirtation idea intrigues me.

However, the fact that one usually needs to use toothpicks to secure it gives me more than a little reason to pause.


What have you got against bodypiercing?


GravatarThe reason you don't have a party
is not the rethugs,
but the DLC.
kei & yuri - 6:41 pm


vraiment!
dump the dlc and the Dems'd have a real party again...
.


GravatarI guess I'm lucky out here, where the town adjoins farmland and there are a lot of outlets besides the grocery stores for getting good quality, non-designer organic produce. But still, that's in season only, which I believe in, but that makes it impractical for a lot of places.


GravatarThis one's for Athenae.


GravatarSally: thankx for the heads up. I didn't know if it was simply, we hate them because they succeeded like Starbucks. Fortunately, we have other choices from small co-ops to another regional organic chain.


GravatarSo many different kinds of wrong.
watertiger


what size batteries does that thing take?


GravatarHey, Our local protest was just on the news. There were more people than I thought. At least 1,000+.


GravatarYes, there are actually a number of Trader Joes in New Jersey. And I've also got a Whole Foods not far away, but it's crazy expensive.
We have another chain called Wegman's which has excellent organic and natural foods, as well as gourmet cheeses and coffees, and pretty decent prices.


GravatarI'm about 3000 miles from the co-op on Shattuck Ave.

It was more a nostalgia thing.

The Co-op on Shattuck has been closed for many, many years now. In fact all the Co-ops are gone...


GravatarReally late back, but yes, it is a rafter, as someone said.
mena


That don't make no sense. The only turkey on a raft was the one that Huck Finn stole that had been mistakenly put in a chicken coop.


Gravatarvraiment!
dump the dlc and the Dems'd have a real party again...
.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka | 03.18.06 - 6:48 pm | #


and so will i!


GravatarWhat have you got against bodypiercing?

overheard in the gym locker room earlier:

"We can go to the fabric store, then get our piercings, and then grab something to eat."


GravatarAfternoon, rational people.


GravatarAnother problem is that the very word "organic" has been co-opted by the big corporations. They've made the certification process so onery and costly that it effectively prices out the small farmer.


GravatarAh, shrimp bhuna has just arrived.

I'm off.


GravatarOkay, to be honest, the biggest thing that annoys me about Whole Foods in LA is that it's populated with yuppie-my-body-is-a-temple-therefore-I'm-better than-you types, who then proceed to drive off in their oversized SUVs.

I like the TJs crowd. It's diverse and frequently and a little scruffy, just like in the real world.


Gravatarwatertiger, ZOMG BABY FEERIT!

Oh, that totally made what has until this moment been a spectacularly shit day.

I love you guys, you know that, right?

A.


GravatarNo offense to no one, no how, but this Vicki doesn not care for piercings nor tatoos.

It's just my preferences, mang.


GravatarAnd then there's Stew Leonard's...


GravatarWe have another chain called Wegman's which has excellent organic and natural foods, as well as gourmet cheeses and coffees, and pretty decent prices.
Karin |


i love wegmans. they started in rochester ny, my home town. good ol' danny wegman.


GravatarWhole Paycheck.

I get fish from there, because fish from someplace where I don't know when the fuck it was caught freaks me out, but not much else.


Now, see, living on the coast (and knowing a few good fish stores around), I never buy fish there.

Chili meat, ground beef, chicken, even sausage for gumbo, yeah. No fish.

They mishandle and overcharge for cheese, too. Gotta find a decent cheesemonger around here.

Go figure.


GravatarI'm going to invent a tattoo removal process and finally get rich enough to flee Bushland.


GravatarBut he is also pro-death penalty.

Isn't that par for the course with prosecutors?


GravatarSo many different kinds of wrong.
===


All wrapped up in one little snotty bundle.


GravatarStanding up at podium and looking solemn:

Hi, I'm Shaw Kenawe, and I have pierced ears.


GravatarCahors

I think it's what they call a fox grape, usually only used for blending in Europe. Much smaller than the usual wine grape.

Used to carry one that had rated 92 and could still sell it for about 6 bucks.
Was the inkiest thing I'd ever seen.


GravatarZOMG BABY FEERIT!

I've just found my band's name.


GravatarNo offense to no one, no how, but this Vicki doesn not care for piercings nor tatoos.

i'm with you.

when my youngest turned 18, she got her nose pierced (yes, she asked first). she used the $ her grandparents sent, so she could tell them that they had pierced her nose as a b'day present.


GravatarMena--I'm not going to take it out on the poor kitten, though.

It's the breeders that should be shot.


GravatarGreen Chile, anyone

for the time being, i think i can get quarts of diced NM green chile (hot, but not fiery), sturdily packaged, for $7/bottle; add $7 for postage...

lemme know if there's any interest...
or in any other Suroeste cocinas...


GravatarI like the TJs crowd. It's diverse and frequently and a little scruffy, just like in the real world.

We've been trying to get a Trader Joe's in the blue-collar town I'm living in here in the Bay Area for some time. Unfortunately, they don't think the "demographic" is right, and if you suspect that's a code word for too many black people, you'd probably be right.


GravatarHi, I'm Shaw Kenawe, and I have pierced ears.

Hi, Shaw.

(fingers her multiple-pierced earlobes)


GravatarYeah, Moe, I do love WF but if I can I buy from Farmer's Markets or farms. I even buy raw milk from a local farm.


GravatarI'm going to invent a tattoo removal process and finally get rich enough to flee Bushland.
==

What a very good idea. You know there's going to be a huge demand before long. I'm thinking the college kids I was teaching about ten years ago are just about starting to regret those giant snakes wrapped around their necks and such.


GravatarThe thing about the censure polls is, if they were conducted before or after the Dems dived under the bed. I could see that impacting reactions. Also, I suspect responses depend even more than usual on the exact wording and setup of the questions, as we've seen in the NSA wiretapping polls. The Mystery Pollster has a post up about it here though it's from last Monday.


Gravatardave--that sucks. They're stupid if they continue to only put up stores in affluent neighborhoods; the prices are such that those from less affluent areas travel to them.


Gravatarnothing pierces me but high pitched music.


GravatarI have pierced ears, too. A total of 4 holes in my already holey head.


GravatarUnfortunately, they don't think the "demographic" is right, and if you suspect that's a code word for too many black people, you'd probably be right.

Love of chocolate covered orange sticks has no color, goddamn it.

A.


GravatarOkay, to be honest, the biggest thing that annoys me about Whole Foods in LA is that it's populated with yuppie-my-body-is-a-temple-therefore-I'm-better than-you types, who then proceed to drive off in their oversized SUVs.

I like the TJs crowd. It's diverse and frequently and a little scruffy, just like in the real world.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


Yeah, it went from a "TJ's" crowd to what you describe.

People used to walk to WF in Austin. And one of the guys rode around the store on rollerskates, and took groceries out for people.

Gone, all gone, the way of all flesh.


GravatarGotta find a decent cheesemonger around here.

Murray's delivers.


Gravatarheh heh - she said 'flesh'


Gravatar,i>I once got busy in a safeway meat isle
olexicon,Sir Humpty

Entirely TMI.


GravatarHi, I'm Shaw Kenawe, and I have pierced ears.

Hi, Shaw.

(fingers her multiple-pierced earlobes)
watertiger


Alright, now my ears hurt.


Gravatarwhile i applaud sen. feingold's motion for censure, i really could care less.

i want the senate to investigate. because, as we all know, if the facts were on the table that bastard would be impeached.

and fuck the media, and fuck democrats who aren't howling about this. these asshat republicans couldn't catch a terrorist if osama himself sent a message saying "i'm determined to attack america." then they turn around and attack the wrong f'n country just 'cause they know the dummy american will be hat'n on the arab and it will help them win an election.

round 2 com'n up.


GravatarI keep fucking up today, unintentionally, so I think I'll just go mope in the corner and hope that someone finds me later tonight.

Blech.


GravatarIt's the breeders that should be shot.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes
==

Okay, and the people who buy the misbegotten things.


GravatarI'd suggest that when you go to the farmers market you ask the vendors if they use pesticides. A lot of people don't use chemicals but can't call themselves organic because they can't afford the certification. These are the people we should be patronizing, ahem.


GravatarI'm going to invent a tattoo removal process and finally get rich enough to flee Bushland.

It already exists. Sorry, dude.

And I happen to like my tattoo. I'm contemplating getting another.


GravatarI once expressed disbelief that a freshman girl had gotten a tattoo on her ankle--this trend was in its infancy--and I asked her if the word "permanent" meant anything to her. She looked at me as if I were an idiot and said: "That's why I got it on my ankle so when I'm in the business world I can wear strapless." I resisted teh urge to ask what business she was going to be working in.

Wow, these pills do cause dizziness. Night all.


GravatarI'm thinking the college kids I was teaching about ten years ago are just about starting to regret those giant snakes wrapped around their necks and such.

Don't forget the small-of-the-back tattoos that every third human being on earth seems to have.

They look hot, I'm not denying it. But I forsee a lot of women going Stepford and not realizing that "porn star" tattooed right above your ass does not impress the local chamber of commerce.

A.


Gravatardave--interestingly, the Joes here in SoCal take EBT. Has that not come to your area?


Gravatarso I think I'll just go mope in the corner and hope that someone finds me later tonight.

Blech.
Vicki | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:55 pm | #


1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10


ready or not, here i come!


GravatarLove of chocolate covered orange sticks has no color, goddamn it

Or those gotdamned meringue cookies!!!


GravatarI'm going to invent a tattoo removal process and finally get rich enough to flee Bushland.

It's been done, honey. I worked for a company that manufactured tattoo removal lasers. Sorry.


GravatarUnfortunately, they don't think the "demographic" is right, and if you suspect that's a code word for too many black people, you'd probably be right.

Cause black people don't like good, reasonably priced food?


GravatarIt's been done, honey. I worked for a company that manufactured tattoo removal lasers. Sorry.
Shaw Kenawe


i was thinking orbital sander.


Gravatarfwiw: i've had one pierced ear-lobe since about 1980...right now there's a quarter karat diamond in there...
just sayin'
.


GravatarSean Patrick

Our own little blogchild.

Proud to be Sean's blogAuntie.
Shaw Kenawe


He's already been baptized?

That was quick. Virtual holy water, I presume?


GravatarOur local protest was just on the news. There were more people than I thought. At least 1,000+.

Here's ours.

50 or so... not bad, considering there was one 20 miles away, and then the big one in SF, as well...


GravatarI can't wait for this to devolve into a "visual art" vs. "written word" argument.

That's when all the pretense comes right up to the surface.


GravatarTigre ...

I just tried one of those Indian meals I bought. Quite tasty over some basmati. Needed a bit of salt, though, which is fine, b/c I prefer to add salt. Most products like that have way too much.


GravatarCause black people don't like good, reasonably priced food?

Don't get me started!


GravatarEntirely TMI.
Tena


pish posh
i know you once got busy in an elevator


GravatarMmmm, meringues.

BTW, y'all know Scout's gonna be on the radio tonight, right?

A.


GravatarOkay, and the people who buy the misbegotten things.
mena


Like moons...


GravatarThat's when all the pretense comes right up to the surface.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 6:58 pm | #


pretentious? moi?


GravatarThat's when all the pretense comes right up to the surface.
watertiger


I'm Bi-format
meself


GravatarBut I forsee a lot of women going Stepford and not realizing that "porn star" tattooed right above your ass does not impress the local chamber of commerce.

Uh...if the local chamber of commerce is seeing it, they aren't doing "Stepord" quite right.


GravatarBTW, y'all know Scout's gonna be on the radio tonight, right?

SAY WHAT?!


Gravatari love wegmans. they started in rochester ny, my home town. good ol' danny wegman. -dirk gently

Shopped there during my two-year sojurn in Rochester a couple years ago.


GravatarRmj, hee. True.

A.


GravatarAthenae - I go up to Gunnison for groceries in the summer. It's 55 miles up, 110 round trip. I usually go every other week or so. Sometimes I can make it last 3 weeks.

There's a grocery store in Lake City - I used to work there. Y'all don't know what expensive is. And I know how dirty that store is. I don't buy much there if I can avoid it.


GravatarI can't wait for this to devolve into a "visual art" vs. "written word" argument.

That's when all the pretense comes right up to the surface.
watertiger


Don't make me deconstruct this thread, kids!

'Cause I will do it! You know I will!


GravatarTotally OT, but I wish Stanley Kubrick were still alive.

You know he'd be making some fascinating movie about this fucked-up age in which we are living.

Please return to your regularly scheduled programming.


GravatarBTW, y'all know Scout's gonna be on the radio tonight, right?

A.
Athenae


9:00 PM CST.

Go here to click on a link to WORT, the radio station which will be covering the interview.


GravatarHere's a sample price from the grocery store in Lake City - standard size package of oreo cookies - $7 and change.


GravatarDerrida has something to say about this.


GravatarFucking hell, I thought she told everybody.

Scout on the radio info here!

A.


Gravatar I have pierced ears, too. A total of 4 holes in my already holey head.

Three. Left lobe (I'm a traditionalist). One piercing for each decade, which I intend to continue...


GravatarTigre ...

You have plans ce soir? Maybe I will come meet you and we can go back.

I'm serious.


GravatarHere's a sample price from the grocery store in Lake City - standard size package of oreo cookies - $7 and change.
Tena |


i didn't know mormons were allowed to eat oreos.


GravatarNo tattoos, no piercings.


GravatarIt's the breeders that should be shot. -Sallyh

Hasn't Incog being saying that for years?


GravatarHere's a sample price from the grocery store in Lake City - standard size package of oreo cookies - $7 and change.
Tena


One more reason to bake your own. Cookies.


GravatarHere's a sample price from the grocery store in Lake City - standard size package of oreo cookies - $7 and change.
Tena


"Get the fuck outta here!"

--Eddie Murphy in "Beverly Hills Cop"


Gravatar Totally OT, but I wish Stanley Kubrick were still alive.

You know he'd be making some fascinating movie about this fucked-up age in which we are living.


In the podcast I'm doing right now, I'm using stuff from Full Metal Jacket.


GravatarThey look hot, I'm not denying it. But I forsee a lot of women going Stepford and not realizing that "porn star" tattooed right above your ass does not impress the local chamber of commerce.
A.
Athenae - 6:56 pm


well, think of it this way:
as they inevitably pack on the flab whelping their idiot children in mindlessly Stepford suburbs, mebbe they'll be embarrassed enough to keep the offending jellied flesh covered...
so there is a brighter side...


GravatarAthenae - I remember one girl who had to show me her brand new egyptian eye small-of-the-back tattoo that had to have been 12 inches long with inch-thick solid black lines. Of course it was slightly infected. I told her to think of me when she got to 60 and it began to blink. It meant nothing to her, of course.


Gravatarcool. will listen.


GravatarI have pierced ears, which at 16 pegged me as a scandalous woman.


Gravatarolexicon - an elevator isn't the same thing as the aisle where the meat is sold in Safeway. It's food, for heaven's sake.



GravatarCause black people don't like good, reasonably priced food?

In my experience, they are very fussy about quality, and brand conscious.


Gravatar No tattoos, no piercings.

NO FLIRTING!


GravatarSeven freakin' dollars for a bag of cookies?!! Damn, and I thought my area was pricey.


Gravatarto combine the thread topics

"would you buy your piercings at a grocery store?"


Gravatar...interestingly, the Joes here in SoCal take EBT. Has that not come to your area?

I'm sure it has. This town has a notoriously bad reputation. All the businesses bypass it. They never say why, but the fact that there is, at least, a plurality of blacks living here, if not a majority, is, I'm sure, not overlooked.

I don't blame Trader Joe's specifically - they're just doing what everyone else does.

Interestingly enough, because Trader Joe's won't come to town, a high-end "boutique" market is. Weird...


Gravatari spent the first 7 years of my life being stuck w/ needles. i could never get a piercing or a tattoo.


GravatarThe reason you don't have a party
is not the rethugs,
but the DLC.
kei & yuri - 6:41 pm

vraiment!
dump the dlc and the Dems'd have a real party again...


I agree. How do we get rid of them?


Gravatar. It's food, for heaven's sake.


Tena


the aisle
not the meat itself

jeez even i have some class


Gravatar I have pierced ears, which at 16 pegged me as a scandalous woman.

I first got my ear pierced in Helsinki when I was 16.


Gravatarwell, think of it this way:
as they inevitably pack on the flab whelping their idiot children in mindlessly Stepford suburbs, mebbe they'll be embarrassed enough to keep the offending jellied flesh covered...
so there is a brighter side...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar


The tendency to bare one's midriff or lower back is evidently inversely proportional to how slim one is, alas.


GravatarJust have your piercings and tatoos done by reputable people. That's the ticket.

Bad tatoos are worse than bad art, and they can be fatal.


Gravatarthe aisle
not the meat itself


try the rump roast.


GravatarYou have plans ce soir?

I'm a little tired. They're open until 10:00, right? Let me see how I feel in 1/2 hour or so.


GravatarThe Co-op on Shattuck has been closed for many, many years now. In fact all the Co-ops are gone...

Well hell.


Gravatarmy friends a reputable tatttoo artist with both arms completely covered
He does great work


Gravatari spent the first 7 years of my life being stuck w/ needles. i could never get a piercing or a tattoo.
dirk gently,sociopathetic


Moi aussi. Too many needles in childhood. Didn't get over my phobia until I spent years getting allergy shots.

Which did no perceptible good at all, and is apparently a treatment long abandoned.

Still don't like needles.


GravatarOf course it was slightly infected.

Oh, God, see, this is why I'm afraid of getting one. That and I'm a wuss and I'm afraid of pain of any kind. I demand novocaine before a cleaning, fer chrissakes.

Praise the Lord and pass the narcotics, and most tattoo places won't do you if you're obviously loaded.

A.


GravatarBad tatoos are worse than bad art, and they can be fatal.
Vicki


oh, i've seen some art that could ....


GravatarIn my experience, they are very fussy about quality, and brand conscious.
Karin | 03.18.06 - 7:02 pm |


In our experience black people are fussy about brands but not always in a good way -- they are the best victims of advertising and managed information, and would rather have certain names than a certain level of quality.


GravatarThere's a really hot chick who works at the piercing/tatoo shop in Burlington around the corner from where we produce Friday Coffeeblogging.


GravatarI first got my ear pierced in Helsinki when I was 16.
NTodd, Marquis de Condorket


that spunds like the end of a dirty story


GravatarA gal died in Newfoundland last week from getting a tattoo. Toxic shock.


GravatarI also have needle issues.


GravatarTena - what in the world reason is there for such absurd Oreo pricing in Lake City? Is it that hard to get the trucks to? Do people there buy these Oreos? I'm not getting something.


GravatarLove of chocolate covered orange sticks has no color, goddamn it


Oh I wish you hadn't brought those up. I would kill for a box of them right now.

moan moan


Gravatarmost tattoo places won't do you if you're obviously loaded.

A.
Athenae


neither will a true gentleman.


.


GravatarThere's a really hot chick who works at the piercing/tatoo shop in Burlington around the corner from where we produce Friday Coffeeblogging.

You know what would really impress her?

Getting your dick pierced.

Go for it, dude!!!


Gravatara friedn of mine
many moons ago got a tattoo frunk
didn;t feel any pain till the next morning


GravatarI like the TJs crowd. It's diverse and frequently and a little scruffy, just like in the real world.
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


My Trader Joe's at the Biltmore, is where all the Kerry-stickered people gather. It's very much the way Markgraff's Pharmacy used to be - a secret place of democracy and exceptionally nice things to eat.


Gravatarthat spunds like the end of a dirty story

Alas, it's not. Was on a trip through Scandinavia and the USSR, and it was our last day before heading into the lion's den, as it were, so a bunch of us got ears pierced as a final act of rebellious freedom, just in case we get sent to the gulag. This was '86.


GravatarI'm a little tired. They're open until 10:00, right? Let me see how I feel in 1/2 hour or so.

Yeah, 10 PM.

Call me if you want to go. I could come meet you on your corner and we can walk over.


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna go hang with my animals and pray to the candle gods. I've had a shitty few days, and am just not fabulous company at the moment.

If I've been an asshole to anyone, forgive me. If I've said something mean, forgive me.

I need to regroup. Life ain't liking me much at the moment.


Gravatarmoan moan
Tena


you should have been at my kid's prom photo party last night. one of the dads is a french chef, he brought chocolate covered strawberries that almost made me faint.


GravatarPraise the Lord and pass the narcotics, and most tattoo places won't do you if you're obviously loaded.

Walk into a head shop/tattoo parlor, and you deserve the piece of crap tat you'll get.

Go to an artist and you'll get art. You'll also get a professional who will not work on you if you're drunk, high, or have even taken an anti-inflammatory or aspirin, which thins the blood.


GravatarYou know what would really impress her?

Getting your dick pierced.


I think I'll stick to hitting on the chicks at the coffeshop.


GravatarLove of chocolate covered orange sticks has no color, goddamn it


Oh I wish you hadn't brought those up. I would kill for a box of them right now.

moan moan
Tena


Don't forget the raspberry ones.
Or the yardstick of solid milk chocolate.


Gravatarneither will a true gentleman.


.
dirk gently,sociopathetic |


*Sigh.

A man like you in my life right now would be the most wonderful thing...


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna go hang with my animals and pray to the candle gods. I've had a shitty few days, and am just not fabulous company at the moment.

aw, sweetie, you are always good company. that's what we're here for.

have a restful evening.


GravatarSeems an apropos time to mention again my favorite local business name: a tattoo parlor called Scarred For Life.


GravatarGetting your dick pierced.

Fuck that. Get the scrotum pierced and then we'll talk.


Gravatar didn't know mormons were allowed to eat oreos

I think Mormonism is probably the only sect of Christianity that is not represented in Lake City.

Not Salt Lake City, Utah. Lake City, Colorado. It's not a city.


GravatarThe only things I've pierced have been feet, nails & locust thorns.


GravatarMy Trader Joe's at the Biltmore, is where all the Kerry-stickered people gather.

i wonder how they will do here in newt country?


GravatarAre all these people with piercings and tattoos going to not feel and look stupid when they're 90? Or even 35?


GravatarFuck that. Get the scrotum pierced and then we'll talk.

Is that the, um...price of entry?


GravatarBut what I don't get is how anyone can make a living selling the two buck chuck? | sola mia - 6:46 pm

1.) Location, location, location.

2.) Volume, volume, volume.


GravatarOUCH!! Ixnay on the otumscray!!


GravatarGet the scrotum pierced and then we'll talk.

Back in my single days, I once got laid by showing a gal my vasectomy scars.


GravatarFuck that. Get the scrotum pierced and then we'll talk.
watertiger


or do one of those lip-stretching things that african tribeswomen do


GravatarGood evening, Moonbats! What's been going on?


GravatarIs that the, um...price of entry?

For the piercing chick? Probably.


Gravatarmy friends a reputable tatttoo artist with both arms completely covered
He does great work
olexicon,Sir Humpty

'
I wish I was there - I need mine worked on.


Gravataror do one of those lip-stretching things that african tribeswomen do

Or splitting the tongue. Isn't THAT appealing!


Gravatar Are all these people with piercings and tattoos going to not feel and look stupid when they're 90? Or even 35?

I'm already 36, and I don't feel stupid. Actually, I feel kinda unhip because I don't have any in the other lobe. As I said, I'm a traditionalist.


GravatarVicki - do something nice for yourself. You deserve it, and it sounds like you need it. And keep in mind the the right job will come.


GravatarIs that the, um...price of entry?

For me? No, I don't make those kinds of demands.


GravatarFuck that. Get the scrotum pierced and then we'll talk.
watertiger


Well, at least my ears don't hurt anymore!


GravatarAh shit. I've been drinking too much. What the hell was it that Klaatu told Gort? Gort, Klattu nictu meringue?


GravatarIsn't THAT appealing!
watertiger


that or the neck rings that make the neck longer


GravatarWell hell.
Tena - 7:05 pm


yeah, i thought the same thing...well, hell...
.


GravatarAre all these people with piercings and tattoos going to not feel and look stupid when they're 90? Or even 35?

I'm 43 and I don't feel stupid about my body art.


GravatarDid I mention that I was just outside picking some tomatoes? From my own tomato plants? Grown without pesticides (although Arthur occasionally does, um, well, never mind, a good wash is all that's required). Also the fennel is going great guns, and the mustard is about to seed? Trader Joe's provides me with my pasta and pate' - I grow the rest of the stuff.


GravatarFor me? No, I don't make those kinds of demands.

Whew!

[looks down, pats his little buddy, "it's gonna be okay..."]


GravatarBack in my single days, I once got laid by showing a gal my vasectomy scars.
Moe Szyslak


the only elective surgery i've ever had, or ever will.


GravatarGood evening, Moonbats! What's been going on?
Hecate Malificent


The men are getting their scrotum pierced, and we're giving them $7 Oreo cookies as a prize.


GravatarAre all these people with piercings and tattoos going to not feel and look stupid when they're 90? Or even 35?
kei & yuri


And do you imagine for one moment, kei & yuri that any other parts of them will be up to standard? What the hell difference does it make if, like the entire rest of your skin, your tattoo isn't what it was when you were 20. So?

Neither are you, for heaven's sake. It just goes
along with the whole picture, and who the hell will be looking when they are 92 besides the doctor and the undertaker.

Sheesh.


GravatarI'm 43 and I don't feel stupid about my body art.
watertiger


yeah, but you are gorgeous. that helps.


GravatarI had to go to Target today to stock up on shampoo, toothpaste, laundry detergent...the usual stuff. And it was packed. Being the misanthrope that I am, the one thing I can't take is being in a crowded store. You stand and wait while people pick their noses deciding what to put in the cart, then you finally get your chance to pick your nose while deciding to put in the cart, and someone comes up behind you and it tapping their foot like, "get the hell out of my way." Crowded stores make me think that an asteroid hitting the earth and wiping out 99% of humanity would be a very good thing.

At least it wasn't Wal Mart. I decided on the way home that if there are designer Hells - a special one for each individual - mine would be to spend eternity in a crowded Wal Mart. Which means I better start trying harder to love people.


GravatarNTodd, Marquis de Condorket | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 7:12 pm |

The male one ear thing is established through centuries and in such occupations as the Merchant Marine. We're talking about these huge lobe-stretchers, or tongues, or "tribal" tats that peek out.


GravatarAre all these people with piercings and tattoos going to not feel and look stupid when they're 90? Or even 35?

I'm not so sure. I'm 50, and still wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, same as I did when I was 5 (okay, I don't cuff 'em now, but otherwise).

My father in jeans looks silly. I look normal.

So I don't know that tattoos and piercings are per se the province of youth. Probably it'll be an "old person's thing" by then.


Gravatar[looks down, pats his little buddy, "it's gonna be okay..."]

pat the bunny!


GravatarThe men are getting their scrotum pierced

EGAD!!, no we are NOT!!


GravatarThe men are getting their scrotum pierced,

hey now!


Gravatarmena - they charge like that because they can.

It isn't easy for them to make a living - they're open year round, but they don't have any income in the winter to speak of. They have at most 4 months to make their year.


GravatarI was never much interested in drawing on or poking holes in myself, but I don't have much of an opinion about others doing so. Some look cool, but judging from the undergrad women here, combining the giant mass of ink covering a substantial portion of many of their lower backs with ultra low riders and high-backed T-bars should be minimum a fashion misdemeanor.


GravatarNeither are you, for heaven's sake. It just goes
along with the whole picture, and who the hell will be looking when they are 92 besides the doctor and the undertaker.


And the local chamber of commerce.


GravatarWhat is it about Trader Joe's and Whole Foods that brings out the liberals? At the Whole Foods in Arlington, I'm not sure they'll let you in the parking lot w/o a Kerry sticker.


GravatarThe men are getting their scrotum pierced

EGAD!!, no we are NOT!!
BlakNo1


Suddenly I'm reminded of the last episodes of L'histoire d'O.


GravatarAre all these people with piercings and tattoos going to not feel and look stupid when they're 90? Or even 35?
kei & yuri


i won't make 90, kids...75 more likely...just some old hippie dood with a bit o'bling in my earlobe...s'cool, imo...
.


Gravatar Or even 35?
kei & yuri


I didn't get my first tattoo until I was 50. I gave it to myself as a birthday present.


GravatarJennifer, Pasta Nazi | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 7:14 pm |

Working in the service industry you want to kill everyone. They become like children, their hatred of eachother is palpable, and based on nothing more than existence. They nag you about securing privileges for them, advantages over the other customers. It is Ayn Rand's dream: a fighting gagglefuck of selfish individuals holding eachother down.


Gravataryeah, but you are gorgeous. that helps.

Only because I'm feeling cantankerous, I know some unattractive people who have some really beautiful work.

Some people look at it as mutilation; others look at it as a creation of art.

Ain't gonna change anybody's minds by calling them "stupid" or "sagging."


GravatarI'm still planning on getting this eye tattoo my friend designed for me
on the tip of the bicep area


GravatarWhat is it about Trader Joe's and Whole Foods that brings out the liberals? At the Whole Foods in Arlington, I'm not sure they'll let you in the parking lot w/o a Kerry sticker.
Hecate Malificent


then they will be very quiet here in cobb county, but i will know all their customers.


GravatarWhat is it about Trader Joe's and Whole Foods that brings out the liberals? At the Whole Foods in Arlington, I'm not sure they'll let you in the parking lot w/o a Kerry sticker.
Hecate Malificent


In Austin, you had to drive a Volvo. State car of Austin, when I lived there.


GravatarMy father in jeans looks silly. I look normal.

Same thing with hats. I could never picture my grandfather or great uncles without a hat. Me, I look like a doofus in a hat.


GravatarWe had no idea with the 90 or 35 comment that so many here were pierced...


GravatarAre all these people with piercings and tattoos going to not feel and look stupid when they're 90? Or even 35?
kei & yuri


This reminds me of a young woman I saw walking down the street in Hoboken a few years ago. She had a very elaborate, intricate design tattooed all over her upper back and neck. She wore a T-shirt that said:

Yes it's real.
Yes it hurt.
Yes I'll still like it when I'm 60.
Fuck off.

I was with her until the "Fuck off" part.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA--have you ever noticed how democracy and good food go together?


GravatarWhat is it about Trader Joe's and Whole Foods that brings out the liberals?
Fake, limousine liberals.


Gravatarres, you still around?


GravatarFucking shit.

That was me telling the tattooed Hoboken T-shirt girl anecdote.


Gravatarmy daughter is a devotee of Spin mag.

she considered a skull tatoo on her arm. there is one very sucessful israeli model i can thinK of who has this tatoo.

anyway she thinks she's all tough, and punk, and shit, but she's not really, and tatoos last a long time. so subtle as i could i tried to talk her out of it, but i'm her dad so that had no effect.

the next issue of her Spin mag. had an article of about 25 people expressing there regrets about their teenage rebellion. it would be horrible to live with a rock band insignia that at 17 you thought was the bomb, but now realised just sucks.

man, i go on too long. does any one read all this blather?


GravatarThe men are getting their scrotum pierced,

Do we get to watch?


GravatarI'm not sure they'll let you in the parking lot w/o a Kerry sticker.

Heck, in my area, that's the minimum you need. Kucinich or Dean stickers are preferred.


GravatarYes, Tigre.

I am here. For you. And for all.


GravatarAin't gonna change anybody's minds by calling them "stupid" or "sagging."
watertiger | Homepage | 03.18.06 - 7:17 pm | #


for me, it's like all art. not my favorite form, but i've seen some beautiful work. also some awful work - my s-i-l has a bicg shamrock on the back of his neck and a big hollow star on his calf. i call him "luck charm"


GravatarWhen I read Tena's Oreo price quote, the expression, "Get the fuck outta here!" cued up instantaneously. If the statement occurred in a face-to-face conversation, I would've said exactly that (circumstances permitting).

So I think it's public domain.


GravatarSame thing with hats. I could never picture my grandfather or great uncles without a hat. Me, I look like a doofus in a hat.
chris/tx


Know what you mean.

Can't wear a hat to save my life.


GravatarFake, limousine liberals.
jack


Um, darling, no self-respecting person would call it a "limousine." It's a "car," dear.


GravatarI recently was reminded of this film (Dances Sacred and Profane) I saw back in the 80's, way before the piercing and self-mutilation subculture went mainstream. There are a few interesting film clips on the site. It's great if you enjoy seeing guys hanging by their chests from meathooks.


GravatarThe men are getting their scrotum pierced,

Do we get to watch?
Hecate Malificent


I have to go lie down now.


GravatarI would never trust two buck chuck. In fact I don't buy ground meat at all, I buy a cheap cut and put it through the meat grinder myself.


Gravatarlimousine, lieberman liberals.


GravatarThere's no such thing as a fake liberal. We need them all, limousines and not.


Gravatarnon-pierced owls.


GravatarYes it's real.
Yes it hurt.
Yes I'll still like it when I'm 60.
Fuck off.


I love it.

it would be horrible to live with a rock band insignia that at 17 you thought was the bomb,

That's why I'm anti-tattoo. Who knew having "Styx Rules" tattood on my ass would look silly in 2006/


Gravatarfreshly inked owls.

res, i think i'm up for a little saunter.


GravatarWhen I was in Nam, there was a guy from LA. that had a bumblebee tatooed on the head of his dick.

If he aged like I did it now looks like a gnat.


GravatarThis one's for Vicki, if she's still here (song lyrics I'm running together to avoid the scroll troll trap):

Well lucky number 7 passed me by, Lucky number 7 called my name and passed on by, He came back don't you know, With his brother 6 in tow, And that's how number 13 wound up by my side....


GravatarThe problem with permanent body art is that most people are not the same person permanently. The youngster trying to acceptably rebel eventually turns into a worker and/or a parent and/or a senior, and not everybody makes those transistions with their tastes, attitudes, morals, or even personalities intact. So the tattoos, etc. get ludicrous. Of course this isn't true for everybody, if you have a well-integrated personality, strength, self-knowledge, a brain, etc. But that's not most people.


GravatarTigre ...

I will call you in five minutes.


Gravatari think i blew out a kidney with a violent cough.


GravatarCan't wear a hat to save my life.

Got too much hair for that to be comfy.


GravatarDo we get to watch?
Hecate Malificent


you can look, but don't touch. and don't pierce!


Gravatar last episodes of L'histoire d'O.



Gravatar i think i blew out a kidney with a violent cough.

I'd offer you one of mine, but it's spoken for, and I hate your guts.


Gravatarit's either a pulled muscle or an internal rupture.
i feel like passing out.


Gravatargoing out to dinner. i'm going to wear a hat. i like hats. own a stetson and a top hat, used to have a viking style sheepskin.


GravatarHecate--I'm glad somebody got that.

I was beginning to worry.


Gravatar Auntie GWPDA--have you ever noticed how democracy and good food go together?
Sallyh, Vicious Fishes


The lunch counter at Markgraff's Pharmacy was where all the local politicans went when they didn't want to talk to anybody. The mayor or various Legislature types or Senators or whoever. See, Mrs. Markgraff made this incredible cheese bread and would produce these sammitches - pimento cheese with green chile on toasted cheese bread. Followed by a chocolate soda..... Or Fridays, her clam chowder - my lord, nothing but cream, clams, diced potatoes, butter and salt. Or her lemon cake! Chuy. Politics hasn't been the same in AZ since Ed Markgraff retired.


GravatarOf course this isn't true for everybody, if you have a well-integrated personality, strength, self-knowledge, a brain, etc. But that's not most people.

People make decisions to smoke, to marry the wrong person, to stay in a job they hate because they need the health insurance.


GravatarSome friends of mine from Arkansas, their daughter was an extremely talented artist, and got a FULL scholarship to Pratt. The New Yorkers here know what that is. After graduation she went to work as a tattoo artist.


GravatarUnpierced owls...


Gravatari think i blew out a kidney with a violent cough.
jack - 7:22 pm


if ya start peein blood, we'll all applaud you...
.


Gravatarlast episodes of L'histoire d'O.


I got that too - I was just late coming in -


GravatarYou can certainly be in business if you have a tattoo; the secret is to get it somewhere where it doesn't show up if you're wearing a standard business suit. In other words, those women with whatever tattooed above their asses will eventually have to cover those bloody things up (and not a moment too soon, says I, since covering those up would also have the handy side benefit of covering up the back of their damn thong underwear, which is way tackier than any tattoo I've yet seen) if they want to make more money than you can make working at Adults Only Video or running cash at Value Village. You can also wear business attire that covers an ankle tattoo -- I never wear skirt suits, even though I have the appropriate chassis to hang them on, and anyone who's seeing my ankle through my sock and my pant leg deserves it. *grin*

I have pierced ears, but a needle phobia, so tattoos are right out.


Gravatar misremember!

Libby related


Gravatar"The day started out to be so beautiful here, and now it's just dark grey rain. I was going to crawl around underneath my house and put in a new water line for the frig, but this gives me anexcuse to come in and visit. It's nice to be inside.
mena"

You shouldn't have to crawl under the house for that, mena. Just shut your water off and change the angle stop (valve) under the sink for a dualie, one side of which is quarter-inch, and hook up from there. Just be sure you get a dual angle stop with the same thread as your old one, on the other side.


Gravatar"So the tattoos, etc. get ludicrous. Of course this isn't true for everybody, if you have a well-integrated personality, strength, self-knowledge, a brain, etc. But that's not most people.
mena"

How about the boob jobs, down the road apiece? "Hey, nice hooters, Gramma!


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