The UK is about to run out of its own natural resources and become dependent on supplies from abroad, a report says.
A study by the New Economics Foundation (Nef) and the Open University says 16 April is the day when the nation goes into "ecological debt" this year.
It warns if annual global consumption levels matched the UK's, it would take 3.1 Earths to meet the demand.
In 1961, the symbolic "ecological debt day" was 9 July; in 1981, it had shifted forward two months to 14 May.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:07 am | #
That WaPo story on "Angry Left" bloggers really pisses me off.
Excessive Bastard
I'd be mad, except she didn't seem to mind it apparently.
Attaturk |
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04.15.06 - 10:07 am | #
Re: Angry Left bloggers -
the Plan is, as always
1)Marginalize
2)Demonize
3)Exorcize
Seperate your opposition from the community, then lead the community in the witchburning.
-From "A Neolithic Chieftan's Guide to Keeping Power", countless reprintings and updates.
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:08 am | #
# 1450 - Battle of Formigny; Toward the end of the Hundred Years' War, the French attack and nearly annihilate English forces, ending English domination in northern France.
# 1755 - Samuel Johnson's A Dictionary of the English Language published in London.
# 1802 - William Wordsworth and his sister, Dorothy come across a "long belt" of daffodils, inspiring the former to pen I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud.
# 1865 - Abraham Lincoln dies after being shot the previous evening by John Wilkes Booth.
# 1865 - Andrew Johnson becomes the 17th President of the United States.
# 1927 - Douglas Fairbanks, Mary Pickford and Norma and Constance Talmadge become the first celebrities to leave their footprints in cement at Grauman's Chinese Theater in Hollywood.
# 1940 - The Allies start their attack on the Norwegian town of Narvik which was occupied by Nazi Germany.
# 1942 - George Cross awarded to "to the island fortress of Malta - its people and defenders" by King George VI.
# 1989 - Hillsborough disaster: A human stampede occurs at Hillsborough, a football stadium in Sheffield, England, resulting in the loss of 96 lives.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:10 am | #
"mildly retarded jesus chick" is a great name for an album.
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:10 am | #
That mildly retarded Jesus chick is everywhere
Jesus was a chick? It would explain some things......
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:11 am | #
[looks directly at attaturk]
watertiger
(looks to see if my fly is open)
Attaturk |
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04.15.06 - 10:11 am | #
WT,
ql was raving about some pastries of yours this morning!!
I settled for cornflakes.
UNE™NTodds Id! |
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04.15.06 - 10:11 am | #
That mildly retarded Jesus chick is everywhere (here, Kos, TPM, etc.) and she creeps me out.
Jennifer |
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04.15.06 - 10:12 am | #
That mildly retarded Jesus chick is everywhere (here, Kos, TPM, etc.) and she creeps me out.
S in Mich
She's stunned by the frightening Godzilla teeth on the right.
Attaturk |
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04.15.06 - 10:12 am | #
Libya has marked the 20th anniversary of the US bombing raids on Tripoli and Benghazi with a high-profile concert.
US soul singer Lionel Ritchie and Spanish tenor Jose Carreras performed in front of the bombed house of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in the capital.
About 40 people died in the attacks on 15 April 1986, including Col Gaddafi's adopted daughter, Hanna.
President Ronald Reagan ordered the strikes, accusing Libya of involvement in bombing a nightclub in Berlin.
Two US soldiers and a Turkish woman were killed and least 230 people injured in the explosion.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:13 am | #
That zombie in the upper left corner is giving me the willies.
Matt | 04.15.06 - 10:00 am
You know, if the eyes didn't appear to open into an infinite vacuum, and weren't nestled under a ridged sloping brow of Neanderthalian proportions...
elkal |
04.15.06 - 10:13 am | #
Uh, sorry. I have no idea why it didn't observe my close tag or the sentence following. Which was:
Check out the 70s era powder blue eyeshadow she's wearing, too.
Jennifer |
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04.15.06 - 10:13 am | #
okay, i just clicked through that retarded jesus chick ad, and SHE DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP IN THE AD!
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:14 am | #
Did someone say blogwhore?
[looks directly at attaturk]
watertiger
I think of you more as a blog-lady-of-the-evening, Watertiger.
Uncle Smokes |
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04.15.06 - 10:14 am | #
US soul singer Lionel Ritchie and Spanish tenor Jose Carreras performed in front of the bombed house of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in the capital.
That's certainly a unique double bill.
Attaturk |
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04.15.06 - 10:14 am | #
UNE,
I know, I know, I'm worrrrking on it!!
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:14 am | #
Manchester 9pm, Friday April 14 2006. Jesus Christ is about to tuck into his last supper, at a fish and chip van close to the cathedral and M&S. "Take, eat. This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me," he says, before offering his disciples some chips. "This is my blood, it will be shared among many for the forgiveness of sins." He hands round his drink before launching into song. We've been here before, of course. Bach, Handel, and Andrew Lloyd Webber have been playing Jesus the Musical for years. Actually it all goes back to the 8th century when the story of the Passion was first chanted. By the 1200s different singers were playing different characters and it had become drama.
(snip)
The chosen music is usually the soundtrack to student bedsit miserablism - Joy Division's Love Will Tear Us Apart (surely the most desperate song ever written), the Smiths' Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (probably the second most desperate song ever written) and New Order's Blue Monday (very possibly the third most desperate song ever written). To top things off, the actor cum hardman Keith Allen is the narrator.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:14 am | #
Great line from i don't remember where -
"The sparkle in her eyes was the sunlight streaming through the hole in her head".
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:14 am | #
Excellllent, another saterday morning Attatiger and Watersnark show!!
UNE™NTodds Id! |
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04.15.06 - 10:17 am | #
plantsman no i don't think I have.
tonight Britain will be glued to their TV sets as the new series of Dr Who in on tonight at 7:15pm
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:17 am | #
I think of you more as a blog-lady-of-the-evening, Watertiger.
The Blogwhore of Mensa, p'haps.
watertiger
I'm putting on XTC and listening to "Blogwhore of Simpleton" for my inspiration.
Attaturk |
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04.15.06 - 10:18 am | #
Is a TV set like a sweater set?
Lenore |
04.15.06 - 10:18 am | #
tonight Britain will be glued to their TV sets as the new series of Dr Who in on tonight at 7:15pm
KEWL!!!
(Anyhoo, it's supposed to be quite the comedy.)
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:18 am | #
"Blogwhores of Mensa" - now THAT'S a name for a band!
Wellums, time to be moving on and out of your way. Later, perhaps.
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:18 am | #
Moonb, have you seen The Kinky Boot ?
plantsman
Das Kinky Boot? About naughty hijinks on a swingin' submarine? Yeah, baby!
elkal |
04.15.06 - 10:18 am | #
I think of you more as a blog-lady-of-the-evening, Watertiger.
More a kind of thread escort service.
spinoza |
04.15.06 - 10:19 am | #
Re: the mildly retarded Jesus chick: I went and watched the video trailer, and I just have to ask, what is the point? The whole object seems to be an attempt to prove that Jesus never lived. Maybe he didn't. So what? Whether it was a guy named Jesus or a guy named something else, or a lot of people who formulated the philosophy, it doesn't make it any less of a revolution in ethics. Trying to take on the idea of Jesus as the literal son of god essentially misses the boat, opting instead to inflame the literalists.
Jennifer |
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04.15.06 - 10:19 am | #
UNE,
I look silly in this straw boater, don't I.
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:19 am | #
Naw, About a black transvestite who inspires the revamping of a staid British shoe factory and its owner.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:20 am | #
As Azerbaijan’s economy booms, public debate is growing about how the government should spend the country’s oil revenues. Experts, repeating past admonitions, are urging the government to expand a strategy that emphasizes safeguarding the country’s economic future. The government, meanwhile, points to a newly created state-run company that will invest in Azerbaijan’s non-oil economic sectors as proof that it has its eye on the long term.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:21 am | #
More a kind of thread escort service.
"Are you lonely? Is your evening conversation with your s.o. less than sparkling?"
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:21 am | #
dipshit
who did this
Just Another Zero |
04.15.06 - 10:21 am | #
A revolution in ethics? I don't think so. There have always been ethical people and there have always been evil hypocrites.
Partisanpoet |
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04.15.06 - 10:22 am | #
Trying to take on the idea of Jesus as the literal son of god essentially misses the boat, opting instead to inflame the literalists.
Jennifer
Quite right. Sort of like the idiocy of researchers proposing Jesus actually walked on ice, not water. WTF?? First of all, no one, ever, is going to know whether it was ice, the backs of fishes, slippery rocks or salty water. And second of all.... that's not the point.
elkal |
04.15.06 - 10:22 am | #
Remember when Rummy took a swipe at Maureen Dowd last month? Well, today, MoDo getsa her revenge.
jurassicpork |
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04.15.06 - 10:23 am | #
I think of you more as a blog-lady-of-the-evening, Watertiger.
Uncle Smokes
Quite fitting since we saw "The Notorious Bettie Page" last night, which I like more, the more I think of it.
ql in ny |
04.15.06 - 10:23 am | #
Re: the mildly retarded Jesus chick: I went and watched the video trailer, and I just have to ask, what is the point? The whole object seems to be an attempt to prove that Jesus never lived. Maybe he didn't. So what? Whether it was a guy named Jesus or a guy named something else, or a lot of people who formulated the philosophy, it doesn't make it any less of a revolution in ethics. Trying to take on the idea of Jesus as the literal son of god essentially misses the boat, opting instead to inflame the literalists.
Jennifer | Homepage | 04.15.06 - 10:19 am | #
I dunno. I think that speaking to the origins of the Christianity and calling bullshit is a valid point, in and of itself. I don't think the authors' intent was to take on the whole Christian enterprise in its totality.
S in Mich |
04.15.06 - 10:24 am | #
Biblical literalism has swept the "heartland." The high-minded discissions here do not reflect that reality.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:24 am | #
"The sparkle in her eyes was the sunlight streaming through the hole in her head".
A line I sort of remember,
"The futillity that the photon had traveled 93 million miles to land on her face."
spinoza |
04.15.06 - 10:24 am | #
Watertiger, your favorite Di-Tech ad is on.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:26 am | #
Quite fitting since we saw "The Notorious Bettie Page" last night, which I like more, the more I think of it.
YAY! I really enjoyed it.
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:26 am | #
"The futillity that the photon had traveled 93 million miles to land on her face."
"a guy named Jesus or a guy named something else, or a lot of people who formulated the philosophy, it doesn't make it any less of a revolution in ethics."
Whoops, sorry, just caught this as leaving. But i must say, it was no revolution in ethics. The ancient world of the time had countless cults of the dying & returning god-man: Mithras, Osiris, Orpheus, Castor-Pollux, Attis, Heracles, etc. And was working on religious unitarianism via concatenation of similar gods - plus the basic belief that there was on power or god beyond all others and beyond all knowing -the Zeus Pantocrator - who made all gods, ran all things, and the role of the dying god-man was to bridge the gap between the unknowable Creator and the mortal.
Christianity assigned this historical context and the Jewish mileu. But it had no revolutionary ethics, only existing ones simply and powerfully restated.
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:26 am | #
"The futillity that the photon had traveled 93 million miles to land on her face."
spinoza
Eight minutes of the photon's lifetime that it's never gonna get back...
elkal |
04.15.06 - 10:27 am | #
Cynicus - not anywhere near approaching my point.
The Judea of Jesus' (alleged) time was under the heel of the Roman boot (sandal?). The ancient world revered the winners and conquerors and placed no value on the losers. In this context, the philosophy attributed to Christ is indeed revolutionary.
Jennifer |
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04.15.06 - 10:29 am | #
opting instead to inflame the literalists.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
JR |
04.15.06 - 10:29 am | #
dipshit
who did this
Just Another Zero | 04.15.06 - 10:21 am | #
****
It was Al-Qaeda terrorists in their failed attempt to ignite a civil war. Why do you ask?
dipshit |
04.15.06 - 10:29 am | #
I liked The God Who Wasn't There. However, it seemed to me more a video essay than a documentary, a polemic by a man who was brought up as an evangelical Christian and is exploring his cognitive dissonance, his disaffection with a mythology made limited and unworkable by the insistence on historiocity and exclusive rights to "spiritual truth."
Uncle Smokes |
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04.15.06 - 10:30 am | #
"Are you lonely? Is your evening conversation with your s.o. less than sparkling?"
Is it by the hour? Also, how much extra for your hyperlinks?
spinoza |
04.15.06 - 10:30 am | #
the Roman and British Empires were very simliar i've found.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:31 am | #
Eight minutes of the photon's lifetime that it's never gonna get back...
But it was a pretty cool trip!
RaiNTodd |
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04.15.06 - 10:31 am | #
I'll be heading out soon for Easter on NC. Bad news--I'm in the back seat with the kid, and he's got a $&%^* Scooby Doo movie. He's finally old enough to watch Scooby vs zimbies....
Draco |
04.15.06 - 10:33 am | #
dippy fails to perceive that we do not find its sources credible.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:34 am | #
I always hated Scooby Doo as a kid. I considered it an insult to my 7 or 8 year old intelligence. Every episode involved a ghost that turned out to be a guy with a projector. How goddamn stupid were those kids that they never figured it out?
Cynicism is a life-long condition it would seem.
Jennifer |
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04.15.06 - 10:35 am | #
Morning, party people. How's Open Threadfest '06 going?
Noam Sane |
04.15.06 - 10:36 am | #
More a kind of thread escort service.
spinoza
I bow and yield to the better, funnier joke.
Before it starts storming here, I've got to grab a bus downtwon to get a ticket to see David Sedaris this coming Thursday.
My cup runneth over and staineth the carpet. Who shall cleaneth this mess?
Catch y'all later, and take care of your good selves!
Uncle Smokes |
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04.15.06 - 10:36 am | #
The scope of the lying from Ken Mehlman's RNC on this immigration stuff really almost defies belief. I'm genuinely curious if any talking heads are going to call them on it. We'll be bringing you a bit more info on this shortly. But basically you have a bill that a Republican chairman introduced and one that was passed overwhelmingly by Republicans. Now the GOP is trying to find a way out from under their screw-up which they're afraid is going to damage them grievously at the polls among Latinos. So they're saying the Democrats are for making illegal aliens felons when they were the ones against making it even a misdemeanor. Mehlman's committee is running these ads. He was on CNN last night preening about how everyone knows how ethical he is and today he's caught in a flat out lie.
Note to Ken: If you run the ads in Spanish, it's still a lie.
Late Update: Here's some more on just the caliber of lies we're talking about.
People were doing a really good job of ignoring the troll in the thread below.
res ipsa loquitur |
04.15.06 - 10:37 am | #
dippy needs to seriously consider therapy.
ql in ny |
04.15.06 - 10:37 am | #
In this context, the philosophy attributed to Christ is indeed revolutionary.
Jennifer
Which is why those oppressed Judeans flocked to it, abandoning their old religion.
Erm, wait, they didn't. The oppressors did.
Christianity took over pagan Europe for several very good reasons, but being the guardian of the oppressed was not at the top of the list.
Nor was it particularly revolutionary in that regard, check out Zoroastrianism.
JR |
04.15.06 - 10:37 am | #
I always hated Scooby Doo as a kid. I considered it an insult to my 7 or 8 year old intelligence. Every episode involved a ghost that turned out to be a guy with a projector. How goddamn stupid were those kids that they never figured it out?
Wait, the ghosts were fake EVERY time?
RaiNTodd |
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04.15.06 - 10:37 am | #
Here is the exact quote with citation:
The fact that that late day light had traveled 93 million miles to land on her face made me sick, made me sympathize with the wasted trip of a lot of photons.
Goya's Lo Peor Es Pedir (The worst thing is to beg)
spinoza |
04.15.06 - 10:37 am | #
N'DJAMENA, Chad -- Chad on Saturday threatened to cut off its flow of oil unless the World Bank releases funds frozen in a dispute over how the central African country should use its oil revenues.
The announcement followed a late night meeting between President Idriss Deby and his Cabinet ministers to discuss their response to a rebel attack on the capital. The rebels were repulsed but they are believed to be regrouping nearby and the threat of a violent overthrow of Deby's government has not diminished.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:37 am | #
The ancient world revered the winners and conquerors and placed no value on the losers. In this context, the philosophy attributed to Christ is indeed revolutionary.
State cultic religion had this attitude (and gee, isn't it different from today's common wisdom), but the religion of individual participation was the Mystery Cult, and those had the same ethical positions as Christianity save in some details (such as the morality of bull-sacrifice, for example). Philosophers who are known to be initiates of the Elusinian Mysteries speak of the essential humanity of slaves, for example. and the flip side is that, once Pauline Xtianity became the Imperial Religion in 310, it became a celebrator of winners and a despiser of the 'losers' of life.
It's just not unique. Most of the picture we hold in our heads about paganism is the result of absorbing a Christian (rival) Church take on it. See Peter Brown's " The World of Late Antiquity" for example, or any of his other works on late Empire religion.
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:37 am | #
Who gave Iran the bomb?. If you said Clintoon, go to the head of the class.
dipshit |
04.15.06 - 10:38 am | #
God must be in favor of birth control. Otherwise, why would He create the erect penis in such a shape that it fits perfectly into a condom.
Lime Rickey |
04.15.06 - 10:38 am | #
would Christanity of spread so fast without a unified Roman Empire?
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:38 am | #
Cynicism is a life-long condition it would seem.
Jennifer
I was the one telling my fellow kindergardeners the truth about Santa Claus.
JR |
04.15.06 - 10:38 am | #
Who gave Iran the bomb?. If you said Clintoon, go to the head of the class.
If you said Clinton, then you are a dipshit.
RaiNTodd |
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04.15.06 - 10:38 am | #
Why don't we blow up some giant Buddhas while we're at it?
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:38 am | #
Wowza - changing out beds, all of the incredibly heavy solid wood variety. Anybody know where I can get a couple of matelasse' fitted boxspring covers? Twin size?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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04.15.06 - 10:39 am | #
plantsman - they have now gone beyond spin and are just outright lying. That story really depressed me yesterday. Fighting back with the truth just doesn't seem to work.
ql in ny |
04.15.06 - 10:39 am | #
God must be in favor of birth control. Otherwise, why would He create the erect penis in such a shape that it fits perfectly into a condom.
The Intelligent Contraception?
RaiNTodd |
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04.15.06 - 10:39 am | #
God must be in favor of birth control. Otherwise, why would He create the erect penis in such a shape that it fits perfectly into a condom.
You wish to explain God's wisdom for a teenage penis' attraction to raw liver?
spinoza |
04.15.06 - 10:40 am | #
would Christanity of spread so fast without a unified Roman Empire?
Moonbootica
Probably not, but that would be a function of common language, roads, and other infrastructure to a large degree. The evangelist saints went far beyond the boundaries of the Roman Empire quite early on.
JR |
04.15.06 - 10:40 am | #
i've found it helps when studying the ancient world is to reduce our judeao-christian mindset, because back then they had no idea about 'sin' or 'salvation'.
sure they praticed rituals but that was more out of a case of habit and tradition, they did not always have to believe what they were doing.
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:40 am | #
In fact, some oppressed Judeans did flock to it, as did some oppressed Corinthians, Greeks, etc. Like any other movement, it didn't take over instantaneously. The oppressors were the Romans, who occupied a lot of territory where the philosophy took hold - territories where the populace were also under the heel of the Romans.
Jennifer |
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04.15.06 - 10:41 am | #
God must be in favor of birth control. Otherwise, why would He create the erect penis in such a shape that it fits perfectly into a condom.
The Intelligent Contraception?
when they can make a condom that results in Immaculate Contraception, call.
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:41 am | #
Anybody know where I can get a couple of matelasse' fitted boxspring covers? Twin size?
Land's End has a large matelasse collection of bed linens, you might check there.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:41 am | #
Judea was on of those troublesom Roman provinces
Moonbootica, Praetor |
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04.15.06 - 10:42 am | #
The Intelligent Contraception?
IC.
I see.
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:42 am | #
Why don't we blow up some giant Buddhas while we're at it?
That would be fun! I would opt to use a MOAB, but there's something to be said for using DU weapons...
RaiNTodd |
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04.15.06 - 10:42 am | #
You wish to explain God's wisdom for a teenage penis' attraction to raw liver?
spinoza
I'll contemplate that one and get back to you.
Lime Rickey |
04.15.06 - 10:43 am | #
ql: It only succeeds if the Latinos fall for it.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:43 am | #
GWPDA - try pottery barn or the company store. Also garnet hill might have them, but they would be priced higher than if you can find them in the other places. You might consider checking ebay - you can find lots of brand new stuff on there for a lot less.
Jennifer |
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04.15.06 - 10:44 am | #
Anybody seen Moe S. ?
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:45 am | #
GWPDA,
also try www.thecompanystore.com
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:45 am | #
Who the hell is 'Clintoon'?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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04.15.06 - 10:46 am | #
The oppressors were the Romans, who occupied a lot of territory where the philosophy took hold - territories where the populace were also under the heel of the Romans.
Jennifer
Which explains the popularity of Christianity in the non-Roman East how, exactly?
Also, not revolutionary.
Try this, from about 1000 years before Christ:
"I renounce the theft and robbery of the world... I reject any who harm beings. I reject them with my thoughts, words, and deeds. I reject them publicly. Even as I reject the authorities, so too do I reject the hostile followers of evil... I pledge myself to the well-thought thought, I pledge myself to the well-spoken word, I pledge myself to the well-done action."
JR |
04.15.06 - 10:47 am | #
Anybody seen Moe S. ?
plantsman
Last thread he was out to dig out his rock garden.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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04.15.06 - 10:47 am | #
Clintoon is the right wing's imaginary nemesis.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:47 am | #
The fact that that late day light had traveled 93 million miles to land on her face made me sick, made me sympathize with the wasted trip of a lot of photons.
On the other hand...
Tonight, my love
You'll gaze into the sky
As the light from a far-off star
Is finally passing by
And the ages that it took
Were well worth the while
If it light up your eyes
And you smile
Judea was on of those troublesom Roman provinces
Moonbootica
IIRC, Britain required the largest constant presence of troops, though.
JR |
04.15.06 - 10:48 am | #
Last thread he was out to dig out his rock garden.
GWPDA
I still have money on the rock.
JR |
04.15.06 - 10:48 am | #
I still have money on the rock.
Seems a wise wager.
plantsman |
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04.15.06 - 10:49 am | #
Who the hell is 'Clintoon'?
He lives in Cameroon
and howls at the moon.
His life is so jejune
His only toy's a spoon.
No, wait. That's Bush.
watertiger |
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04.15.06 - 10:49 am | #
"Clintoon" is the cartoon-ish caracature of one ex-President, William J. Clinton, and that caracature is the favorite straw-man target of the Angry Right.
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Cynicus |
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04.15.06 - 10:50 am | #
Aunt Teeter-
Who wrote that?
spinoza |
04.15.06 - 10:50 am | #
You wish to explain God's wisdom for a teenage penis' attraction to raw liver?
spinoza | 04.15.06 - 10:40 am | #
I'm swooning with nausea. Thanks.
S in Mich |
04.15.06 - 10:51 am | #
IIRC, Britain required the largest constant presence of troops, though.
Still, no Masada in Manchester.
driftglass |
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04.15.06 - 10:51 am | #
Someday he's gonna pull out that rock and all of the North Atlantic is gonna go down the drain.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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04.15.06 - 10:53 am | #
JR - that's nice, but it's not "blessed are the meek".
No one is claiming that ethical systems and ideas didn't already exist. Buddhism was already around as well as others that have been mentioned. None of that changes the fact that in the time and place where the alleged Jesus was operating, it was a radical departure from the existing belief systems.
Someone in Judea was saying this stuff, and it had a big impact on some of the people of the time - big enough that they spread the word to others upon whom it also had a big enough impact that they were willing to abandon their existing belief systems. As such, I don't think it matters all that much whether a guy named Jesus ever lived or not. That's tilting at windmills.
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04.15.06 - 10:53 am | #
Aunt Teeter-
Who wrote that?
spinoza
Aunt Teeter did. (Only good line of a crappy song I wrote in back in ought 79).
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04.15.06 - 10:55 am | #
Aunt Teeter-
Who wrote that?
spinoza
Aunt Teeter did. (Only good line of a crappy song I wrote in back in ought 79).
Remarkable! You can bend your words around me anytime.
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04.15.06 - 10:57 am | #
JR - that's nice, but it's not "blessed are the meek".
But it's an ethical system that's honored more in the breach than in the observance, IMHO.
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04.15.06 - 10:58 am | #
Someone in Judea was saying this stuff
Someone had already been "saying in Judea" for hundreds of years. What Jesus (if he existed ) preached was not new. What was new was Roman converts taking it home, where it eventually became the Imperial religion. It didn't do so well in those areas where it did not come to power. The East and the Levant was "immunized" against Christianity becasue they were already montheisms with a strong humanist streak. Rome was still pagan, and therefor "ripe".
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04.15.06 - 11:01 am | #
Rome was still pagan, and therefore "ripe".
In other words, the message of the alleged Jesus in that time and place was revolutionary.
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04.15.06 - 11:07 am | #
Creationism: It's not just for American religious fundie whackjobs, anymore.
I never knew that this shit was being "taught" by the Great British.
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04.15.06 - 11:09 am | #
Otto Preminger was once pitched the idea that jusus as a child he had a dog (collie)....
Remember how Bush served turkeys to the troops in Iraq a couple of years ago?
Now, according to the retired generals he also served up a turkey in the form of Donald Rumsfeld.
You might rememmber too that the turkey George W. served up was a fake turkey that would look good on TV, which is also sort of what he did with Donald Rumsfeld when he appointed him Secretary of Defense. At least according to the generals.
And now George W. is sticking up for his turkey, Rumsfeld.
He's such a joker that George W.!
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04.15.06 - 12:24 pm | #
The Republicans have yet to hold Rumsfeld to the GOP's "Les Aspin Standard." That is, decisions that needlessly cost American lives in battle cost defense secretaries their jobs, but apparently only if Bill Clinton is president.
When you do email the writer, make sure that you sound somewhat sane, otherwise you're justifying the crap in his article.
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