I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
afternoon moonbats 
second, but I try harder.
I dont mind bringing up the rear. Someone has to protect and defend ya know.
so the whistleblower law does not help you if you are in the CIA?
soo far to go, us people...so far to go
Hopefully the troll will stay below.
Thanks for the heads-up Jennifer!
Thirsty China looks to Saudi oil deals
The president of China has arrived in Saudi Arabia at the start of a visit designed to strengthen ties between the world's leading oil supplier and a nation fast becoming its biggest consumer.
Underscoring the growing bilateral importance of the relationship, Hu Jintao was welcomed at Riyadh airport by Ali al-Nuaimi, the Saudi oil minister.
During Hu's visit a series of cooperation agreements will be signed after Hu holds talks with King Abdullah.
The Saudi king himself made a landmark visit to China in January, the first ever by a Saudi monarch.
Flying in from the US, Hu is also scheduled to meet Saudi businessmen and call on petrochemical giant Saudi Basic Industries Corporation (SABIC).
Good afternoon Moon! Are you in Swansea?
Good morning, kids. So what are we thinking about the allegations that Condi Rice leaked national defense information to a lobbyist with the pro-Israel AIPAC? Are they gonna say it's not leaking if Condi did it?
Good morning all. Whatsay we declare the American Experiment a catastrophe and undeclare our independence to England. They seem to be a bit saner these days and we'de get national health care and parlimentary democracy.
Kid Charlemagne yepb for 7 weeks
Litz, Condi leaked only historical information!
Pelosi: Talks like a Dem while she quietly dismantles Sarbanes-Oxley in the background for her husband.
Moon,
We are coming up on final exams at the University I work at. Only two more weeks 'till the end of the semester!
All these leakers should get crates of Depends shipped to them.
mogwai--I said last night that I much hope this CIA whistleblower case goes to court. Imagine the amount of muck the defense team can rake in discovery.
If you've been following the AIPAC spying case, it's fun to see how the defense has turned on Condi, a political ally of the defendants. Part of their defense is "But this is the sort of thing Condi did all the time!" Hahaha
If that's how the neocons' FRIENDS defend themselves, picture what their adversaries might do
Pelosi: Talks like a D--
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I wish they'd turn on AIPAC.
we are murkans - we dont need no national hippie healthcare - all we need is tax cuts and then our health will take care of itself - that and our rotting bridges will fix themselves - we only need enough taxes to build and drop bombs
/wingnut
Dave's narcolepsy kicks in like clock-work whenever he doesn't have an answer.
Where's a fuckin' troll? I'm in a bad mood and looking for a bit of dust-up.
Bring the pain.
Other than that, mornin' all...
Greetings Bob.
Crates of large corks and 55 gallon drums of Super Glue. That'd fix those damm leaks - one in every orifice.
atrios, that chili peppers link is righteous
Gotta go!
And remember, stop haulin that Dem water, they only Repub-lites anymore.
" I'm in a bad mood and looking for a bit of dust-up"
bad mood? the fucking tribe beat KC last night, the cavs open the playoffs today. it's a little gloomy here today, but it's warm
what's there to to be in a bad mood about, besides the country going to hell?
"Zeus is usually portrayed as bearded, middle aged but with a youthful figure."
---So, you're kinda like a cross between Regis and Tony Danza with a beard?...
Here's the thing, though: they've been for months denying the existence of the secret gulags, and now by firing someone for talking about them, by saying the information was "classified", they've admitted that the secret gulags exist.
What's needed is a law stating that a leaker can't be prosecuted for leaking information about illegal, unconstitutional activities. Because that's essentially the argument here - that they can do whatever they want, whether within the law or not, and then keep it classified to avoid prosecution. And not only that, but they have the legal right to punish those that reveal their illegal activities.
Bullshit. I hope if they go after the leaker legally, the defense will make this issue.
Cleveland Bob -- My daughter just got a gig as a bike messenger up there. So keep a special lookout for two-wheeled, auto-powerd travelers up there, k?
Pussy.
CS,
Will do.
Bike messengers are the most! I'll remind the other motorists to keep a watch out.
Bob
Cleveland Bob -- Thanks you do a worried mom's heart good.
CS
She'll be fine. I grew up here and have since lived all over the lower 48 and Europe. When I returned to NE Ohio, my dad said that the nicest folks he ever met are here.
After 8 years since my return, I'd tend to agree.
Not that there aren't pleasant people everywhere, just sayin'.
cs
My kid was messenger for almost two years in Seattle. She'll do fine.
In case you've heard of the 14 permanent bases the US intends to keep in Iraq, but didn't know where they were going, here's an article with a map, along with some intriguing descriptions:
Some US bases in Iraq are huge, e.g., Camp Anaconda, north of Baghdad, occupies 15 square miles, boasts two swimming pools, a gym, a miniature-golf course, and a first-run movie theater. The $67.6 billion emergency bill to cover Iraq and Afghanistan military costs includes $348 million for further base construction
Scroll down for map
Jennifer - there is a whistle blower law, but since everything is cloaked in "national security" it's pretty easy to get around it.
what's there to be in a bad mood about, besides the country going to hell?
jdw
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You're right, jdw. There's still plenty to be cheerful about.
It's just that I gotta go to another funereal of a friend's parent. An all too common event these past few years.
what better way for freedo to illustrate his own special take on constitutional rights:
Feds lower boom on Hu's Falun Gong heckler
BY TRACY CONNOR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
U.S. authorities are taking a hard line against the New York doctor who heckled President Bush and Chinese President Hu Jintao - hitting her with a federal charge that carries six months in prison.
Wenyi Wang, 47, a devotee of the Falun Gong movement, was originally booked on a disorderly conduct charge after she crashed Thursday's White House ceremony.
But the U.S. attorney's office later decided to charge her with harassing, intimidating and threatening a foreign official for yelling at Hu that his "days are numbered."
At a court hearing in Washington, defense lawyer David Bos said she shouldn't face any criminal charges because she was exercising her free-speech rights. "It's making the First Amendment rights of all Americans just evaporate," he said.
Prosecutor Angela George argued that because Wang's tirade was personally directed at Hu, it wasn't protected speech.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front...0p-
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I'm not so fond of bike messengers. When I lived in DC, there was one who used my subway stop, having taken his bike on the train.
During rush hour he would clear the steps by riding straight up the center with his eyes shut giving Tarzan yells.
"An all too common event these past few years."
yea, sorry. jeebus, getting old sucks.
Yet another Saturday morning when I feel no volition to turn on Scott Simon. I guess when you've heard everything he has to say, you've heard everything he has to say.
There is plenty to be cheerful about. Like the job I started at the end of January. It's going great guns and I haven't run into any of the "gender issues" I was apprehensive about when I started the job. Aside from a pissy carpenter, who's pissy with everyone, it's been really smooth. And even the pissy carpenter is manageable now that I've learned to just dish it back to him.
Cleveland Bob & ql Beale -- Thanks, guys. It's just hard biting my tongue when I want so badly to ask her if she rides with a helmet on!
olvlzl, smart move. He just finished an interview with Joe Klein. I don't know why I punish myself.
So, you're kinda like a cross between Regis and Tony Danza with a beard?...
Cleveland Bob
Tony Danza with a beard? Speaking of which, what's Cathy Lee Gifford up to these days? Please, don't tell me that she's singing.
olvlzl, smart move. He just finished an interview with Joe Klein. I don't know why I punish myself.
mer
You've made my morning mer. Thank you for your sacrifice. I am greatful.
Joke Lyin'. Should be the standard spelling, shouldn't it?
Cleveland Bob -- Sorry about your friend's parent. Your friend will appreciate having you there . . .
Cleveland Bob & ql Beale -- Thanks, guys. It's just hard biting my tongue when I want so badly to ask her if she rides with a helmet on!
cs, art is bread
I had lunch with some new parents yesterday. It's amazing the things they don't know they are in for. And it never stops.
Prosecutor Angela George argued that because Wang's tirade was personally directed at Hu, it wasn't protected speech
Huh?
So "Chimpy should be tried for war crimes" isn't protected either, by that logic.
Good luck in court with that one Angie. Let's hope you get a judge with a sense of humor.
Klein was so full of himself, I wanted to throw a shoe at the radio. But, lately, I want to throw a shoe at many things and many people.
Sure. We no-one'll tell you shes's singing...
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Sure. We no-one'll tell you shes's singing...
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I posted this way earlier, but nobody seemed too interested. Maybe I'll have better luck now that everyone has had some coffee.
It occurred to me that with it costing some people $80 to fill up their tanks, families are going to have to start figuring out ways to cut corners. Most people have no savings to dip into and are maxed out on their credit cards. This is a crisis. And as usual, w is nowhere to be found. We need some leadership on this. Not platitudes. W wants to get credit for the economy, well let's give him credit. Explain to your children why they are having macaroni and cheese, again, that it is all due to the w economy. Credit where credit is due.
Scott Simon's such a pimp!
scottie's typical tongue-laving of Joe Klein was absolutely repellant...scott simon is usually repellant, but this was excessive...these two are/were clearly 'asshole buddies'...
That short stint at NBC gave Scott Simon the unrealistic hope that someday one of the TV networks would discover him and make him ultra rich. His work used to be just syrupy and cloying but since then he's added Republican bromides to the mix.
No, Scotty. You've reached the highest point you are ever going to reach. Making sappy people weep at sappy stuff while they endanger other drivers.
This is a crisis. And as usual, w is nowhere to be found.
he's spending all weekend in california.
there were several stories yesterday about people hocking their shit at pawn shops to get $$ to purchase gas. i suspect the walmart supercenters are getting nervous.
Seriously, when it costs a minimum wage earner 2 hours of his pay to get to and from work...how long is he going to be willing to do that job for minimum wage?
Seriously, when it costs a minimum wage earner 2 hours of his pay to get to and from work...how long is he going to be willing to do that job for minimum wage?
That Bush guy should be doing more better decider-ing...
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Morning,again
It occurred to me that with it costing some people $80 to fill up their tanks, families are going to have to start figuring out ways to cut corners. Most people have no savings to dip into and are maxed out on their credit cards. This is a crisis. And as usual, w is nowhere to be found. We need some leadership on this. Not platitudes. W wants to get credit for the economy, well let's give him credit. Explain to your children why they are having macaroni and cheese, again, that it is all due to the w economy. Credit where credit is due.
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Oh yes! He deserves credit for all of it. I mean, how else will he take responsibility for anything unless we push it on him.
I read at Capital News he intends to push Hydrocarbon fuel today to celebrate Earth Day. I mean, he wouldn't dare call for a fuel cost limit or anything like that.
PP
He has to stop with all this theory crap. People are going to be looking for some practical answers on how to get jane to soccer practice. They're not gonna wanna hear about hydrocarbons being developed for use ten years down the road.
I swear, it is almost as if KKKarl is deliberately bringing the regime down.
just saw a program on biodiesel........it is interesting...be good for the farmers if their are any left
Hey DWD - Did you catch Kent earlier. He's reading your book and enjoying it.
Open thread post times always end in three. What's up with that?
I swear, it is almost as if KKKarl is deliberately bringing the regime down.
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You're right. People want something now, and like NOW! And, yes KKKarl is bringing it down, unintentionally. He has no clue how real people live on a day to day basis. He keeps himself in the throne room and therefore knows nothing of peasant life.
Ride a bicycle, deprive a republican of a Rolex.
That's my motto. Pure, simple. Never let the psychos enjoy being psychos. Stay on their cases. They'll do it as long as it's the path of least resistance...
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You know, when the MSM was showing Exxon's CEO last night I wondered about the retirement package for rigg workers.
I wonder if they support his package and get a satisfactory retirement as well.
Yeah, I saw that. I said hello but everyone had disappeared. (I took the opportuninty to head back to bed. Hope all who read it,enjoy it - a pretty safe bet, I think.)
Is there a quick and dirty way to reckon the amount of "profit" going to big oil per gallon of gas from the gas pump price?
Iraq parliament meets to vote on PM
The Iraqi parliament has begun meeting to vote on the appointment of Jawad al-Maliki as the country's new prime minister.
Adnan Pachachi, the acting speaker, opened the only second session of the parliament since it was elected in December.
Hopes of ending four months of political deadlock have been raised after Shia politicians agreed to nominate al-Maliki in place of the incumbent, Ibrahim al-Jaafari.
The nomination of the tough-talking Shia leader has won initial approval from senior Sunni and Kurdish representatives - support the Shia alliance needs if it is to build a unity government.
Speaking of Earth Day, Kerry's giving a big speech at Faneuil Hall today. I had email from him this week that said he'd be rolling out something big . . .
Shrub as Mr. Dangerous. Morning all. Beautiful morning - guess I'll go out and fill up the gas tank before the price doubles.
Ya know, I wasn't all that crazy about the 70s the first time around. Re-living their various low points, in compressed version, isn't going to be much fun. And I'm afraid that platform shoes may come back into style.
Child obesity has doubled in a decade
Junk food and lack of exercise have created 'public health timebomb'
More than a quarter of children in English secondary schools are clinically obese, almost double the proportion a decade ago, and an official survey released yesterday also showed that girls were suffering more than boys from a crisp and chocolate-fuelled life of too much eating and too little exercise.
Colin Waine, chairman of the National Obesity Forum, said that the figures showed a "public health timebomb" in the making: children who were obese in their early teens were twice as likely to die by age 50, he said.
Researchers measured the height and weight of 11-15 year olds, and found 26.7% of girls and 24.2% of boys qualified as obese - nearly double the rate in 1995. Among children aged 2-10, 12.8% of girls and 15.9% of boys weighed above the obesity threshold - also well up on 10 years before.
The nomination of the tough-talking Shia leader has won initial approval from senior Sunni and Kurdish representatives - support the Shia alliance needs if it is to build a unity government.
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I read that Turkey in the meantime is building a baracade on the southern border. They state they anticipate an attack on Kurds.
Speaking of Earth Day, Kerry's giving a big speech at Faneuil Hall today. I had email from him this week that said he'd be rolling out something big . . .
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Good morning, peeps.
Speaking of gas prices, did y'all see the stuff about potential gas shortages in the not-too-distant future? I was just a baby during the 70s gas shortages so I don't remember the lines, but I'm thinking we are not prepared for this at all.
Morning, rational people.
Hey, WGG, is being 60 treating you well? I hit that milestone this coming August, so I'm starting to prepare.
Before the energy crisis of the 1970s I was able to buy chicken for $.29/pound. The exorbinent price increases for fuel will herald in a new wave of inflation. And without leadership, it will be worse this time around. W has got realize that being prez means more than winning elections and handing out goodies to your pals.
TJ, I remember it: it was ugly.The idea that someone is paying half of their wages in order to get to work is an interesting one. In my situation the gas costs are annoying but not catastrophic. But there are many who will find this untenable. What they gonna do? That is the question.
Ya know, I wasn't all that crazy about the 70s the first time around. Re-living their various low points, in compressed version, isn't going to be much fun. And I'm afraid that platform shoes may come back into style.
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You and me both! What I do remember is the shortage ended fairly quickly when the price of food and goods rose too high for consumers. It was one of those gas or goods situations. Well, mortgages got paid.
Hey, WGG, is being 60 treating you well? I hit that milestone this coming August, so I'm starting to prepare.
Diane - 9:09
As do former President Clinton and Dubya.
sittenpretty -- I like and admire both.
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TJ, I remember it: it was ugly.The idea that someone is paying half of their wages in order to get to work is an interesting one. In my situation the gas costs are annoying but not catastrophic. But there are many who will find this untenable. What they gonna do? That is the question.
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nobody that CAN fix the situation,gives a damn...we need a revolution ...now!
GOP has been caught using subliminal messages in campaign ads.
Ooops. Somebody leaked again.
tj -- there's already spot shortages in ny/nj; and corzine has just issued an emergency order relaxing intrastate trucking regs to allow greater flexibility in delivery to stations. there's going to be a major effort to eviscerate any and all remaining federal regs; and a new push for offshore drilling in florida and california, along with anwr. and environmentalists are going to be blamed for the current situation.
my dad turns 60 on the 9th June
sittenpretty -- I like and admire both.
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me too...but kerry should pull a Sidartha at spend some time with non-billionaires...or get a speechwriter that will do it
I think prices may go down a bit after the spring break session is over across the country.
But, summer vacation time for the working class will bring it back up again.
It's time to pay heed to the political bloggers
Oliver King
WGG, my dad turns 60 on the 9th June
Moonbootica, Easy Rider
Does this make you feel any better?
We have a new teacher across the hall. She is a quite attractive young woman (she is special ed - the only way kids get into the old teachers' school) All I can think of are fatherly thoughts - honestly. It is HELL getting old
My feeling is that now that the oil companies have us used to the magical $3 per gallon number, we can expect a push towards $4.
More bad news came down here in SoCal when our MTA announced a hike in bus fares to cover the cost of natural gas that powers most of the fleet.
bkny--we are so fucked. gaswise, we are normally okay--I drive a Corolla, and Mr. TJ tries to bike everywhere he can. right now our problem is that Mr. TJ is in Chapel Hill and me and the kids are in South Carolina--a three and a half hour drive each way. So if we want to see each other even every other weekend, that's a big chunk out of our already-strained budget.
'It's time to pay heed to the political bloggers'
How else are politicians going to know what's really going on in the world?
Oil's top brass talk prices at summit
DOHA (Reuters) - Chief executives of the world's top energy companies met ministers from the biggest producers on Saturday with record oil prices of above $75 a barrel speeding the race for supply investment.
A four-year rally, fueled by supply constraints from the oilfield to the refinery gate, has left both sides with bumper profits. This year, worries over Iran's exports and crises in Iraq's and Nigeria's industry have pushed oil to levels that threaten economic growth.
Consumer governments are urging the likes of Exxon Mobil (XOM.N: Quote, Profile, Research), BP (BP.L: Quote, Profile, Research) and Royal Dutch Shell (RDSa.L: Quote, Profile, Research) to spend money building refineries. The companies want major producers like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and UAE to drill for more oil.
And I'm afraid that platform shoes may come back into style.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
http://store.nordstrom.com/
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My feeling is that now that the oil companies have us used to the magical $3 per gallon number, we can expect a push towards $4.
More bad news came down here in SoCal when our MTA announced a hike in bus fares to cover the cost of natural gas that powers most of the fleet.
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blame W every dhance you get...oh and shoot em-up Dick too. while your at the gas station
my dad was telling me how the older he gets the more he seems to forget things, because at work they were naming all their former girlfriends,he couldn't put names to faces.
Consumer governments are urging the likes of Exxon Mobil (XOM.N: Quote, Profile, Research), BP (BP.L: Quote, Profile, Research) and Royal Dutch Shell (RDSa.L: Quote, Profile, Research) to spend money building refineries. The companies want major producers like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and UAE to drill for more oil.
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That's what I don't get. They are shutting down refineries. Does a refinery have to be owned and operated by an oil company? Is there no end to the monopoly here?
Iran has "basic" enrichment deal in Russia
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's ambassador to the U.N. nuclear watchdog said on Saturday that Iran had a basic deal to enrich uranium in a joint venture in Russia but said details were still being worked out, Iranian state radio reported.
Ali-Asghar Soltanieh, the envoy to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), did not say if the joint venture enrichment was an alternative to enriching inside Iran, although Iranian officials have insisted they would defy U.N. demands and continue to enrich on Iranian territory.
"He ... announced the basic agreement on a joint uranium enrichment firm on Russian soil and said that there are only some issues regarding technical, legal and financial matters that need more assessment or exchange of ideas," radio quoted Soltanieh as saying from Russia.
Iran previously said in February that it had reached a "basic agreement" with Russia on jointly enriching uranium.
Gas prices - this is where the West will revolt. You simply cannot live out here without driving, and driving some pretty fair distances - that's the nature of life out here. Public transportation is available, but mostly only to a small proportion of a major city and not intercity to any degree - that's what flying was for. If I want to go to Tucson, as I must in a couple of weeks, the only way I can get where I need to go is by driving. That's two hours and a bit to the nearest city. If I live in California, my job may very easily be a hundred mile commute from my house - Sacramento to Walnut Creek for example. THat's where the house is and that's where the job is. No choices.
There are no options here.
Fortunately we were in Boston during the fuel lines. Never drove a car -- though we rode with friends on rare occasions -- while we were there.
That's what I don't get. They are shutting down refineries. Does a refinery have to be owned and operated by an oil company? Is there no end to the monopoly here?
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what exactly dont you get....more money for less oil and toil...simple.no?
blame W every dhance you get...oh and shoot em-up Dick too. while your at the gas station
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I DO! My repug neighbors got it when they complained about the gas prices. I reminded them of their President's Energy Policy and Tricky Dicks secret Energy talks.
bkny - ouch
The one nice thing about growing older is you stop torturing yourself to look pretty.
Scott Simon could be replaced by a warm lump of snot...
and when and why was Dan Schorr considered an adversary worth being on an enemies list???
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what exactly dont you get....more money for less oil and toil...simple.no?
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Oh, I get that. What I mean is where is the free market in this situation? Why are there no private owners of refineries?
a three and a half hour drive each way.
two of my sisters each have 45mile drives to their jobs from their mcmansion homes, in addition to the extra driving they have for their kids' activities. me, being the hennypenny of the family, attempted to have these conversations even a couple of years ago, but they couldn't quite wrap their minds around the idea that cheap gas isn't an american birthright. and their willful ignorance of international politics has compounded that outlook -- as i imagine the vast majority of americans are now discovering.
Oh, I get that. What I mean is where is the free market in this situation? Why are there no private owners of refineries?
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monopoly is a great game
What I mean is where is the free market in this situation? Why are there no private owners of refineries?
this IS the free-market at work...
GWPDA is right. When we lived on Long Island there was no way to exist without a car. There were days when I spent five hours chauffering the kids where they needed to be. That's what got me thinking that diets were going to have to be changed. You have to pay the mortgage and you have to fill up the car. Since most people don't have savings and the credit cards are maxed out, where else ya gonna cut.
There are no options here.
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None in Georgia, NC, or SC either.
PeasantParty:
Arizona refinery set back - oil deal missing - Mexican company won't commit to supplying oil for planned site
Ken Alltucker
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 19, 2006 12:00 AM
Mexico's government-run oil company told an Arizona group that it will not commit crude-oil supplies to the local company's planned 150,000-barrel-a-day refinery east of Yuma.
Without a source of oil, Arizona Clean Fuels Yuma won't be able to raise money to build the $2.5 billion refinery.
"It's a Catch-22," said Ian Calkins, spokesman for the Phoenix-based group. "In order to give our investors some certainty, we need a contract in hand. Since we've been unable to get that to date from Mexico, we must seek other alternatives."
Petroleos Mexicanos is unwilling to tie up its limited oil supply for a yet-to-be-built refinery, Calkins said.
The Mexican oil company did not rule out the possibility of eventually striking a deal with the Arizona group, possibly after Mexico expands production by tapping offshore reserves.
Despite the setback, Arizona Clean Fuels officials remain optimistic that the group can create the nation's first new refinery in three decades.
Arizona Clean Fuels is negotiating with Canadian oil interests, including suppliers of the oil and tar-sand deposits located mainly in Alberta. The oil would be shipped along the West Coast to a pipeline terminal in Baja California, then sent through a planned Mexico-to-Yuma County pipeline.
Securing oil is one of several tasks ahead. Arizona Clean Fuels must complete the purchase of the Tacna-area site from the Wellton-Mohawk Irrigation District, secure right-of-way easements to build a Yuma County-to-Baja California pipeline, and complete design and engineering plans.
The group's most significant milestone has been receiving an air-quality permit in May from the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality. It's the only proposed refinery in more than three decades to obtain such a permit. ...
one nice thing about growing older is you stop torturing yourself to look pretty.
ql Beale
no shit; i was around for the first platform trend and very clearly recall a couple of headers that i shrugged off in the name of being cool. no more -- it's danskos all the way...
CNN has some email feedback on the rising gas prices. This one pissed me off:
No effect whatsoever. I drive about 500 miles per year and bicycle the rest. It's fun to see all the agony when I ride past gas stations full of desperate, mortified and angry motorists. Maybe they can go inside and cool down with a nice Slurpee or something. Happy motoring, America!
David Dutra, Tucson, Arizona
"Fun to see all the agony"????
That's nice Mr. Dutra. Do you have children that have to be driven to school? Obviously you live reasonably close to your job; most Americans do not have that luxury. And unless you live in a major urban center, public transportation is practically nonexistent. As long as the mentality in this country is so egocentric ("I've got mine, screw all the yokels who didn't plan ahead.") how are we ever going to fix these problems?
Same situation in my part of Michigan. No alternative. You must go: therefore.
GWPDA is right. When we lived on Long Island there was no way to exist without a car. There were days when I spent five hours chauffering the kids where they needed to be. That's what got me thinking that diets were going to have to be changed. You have to pay the mortgage and you have to fill up the car. Since most people don't have savings and the credit cards are maxed out, where else ya gonna cut.
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you care, but 100% of congress are millionaires.....and they OBVIOUSLY dont care
ah, now I know bkny is a woman.
For me it's reboks. Even with the business suit and panty hose.
And I'm afraid that platform shoes may come back into style.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
We used to call them "muggers little helpers".
this IS the free-market at work...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka...
Funny, that. Well, not so funny.
The free market and globalization urged on us by the multinationals are turning out to be the root of all our current evils.
Yes, this is a blogwhore, this time on the connection between NAFTA and our immigration problems.
Fortunately we were in Boston during the fuel lines. Never drove a car -- though we rode with friends on rare occasions -- while we were there.
I lived in Ohio in those days. Good times, good times.
Now I live in the fucking boonies. Went to visit friends in town last night and it cost me 6 bucks just to get there. Guess I'll be dusting off the panniers and riding my bike everywhere this summer.
No effect whatsoever. I drive about 500 miles per year and bicycle the rest. It's fun to see all the agony when I ride past gas stations full of desperate, mortified and angry motorists. Maybe they can go inside and cool down with a nice Slurpee or something. Happy motoring, America!
David Dutra, Tucson, Arizona
Live Free or Die?
bkny--when we were in new orleans, I had a ten-minute (if that) commute to work, Mr. TJ walked or rode his bike, and the kids walked/ took public transportation. unfortunately, katrina changed all that and now we are separated until June, when the kids and I will finally join him in Chapel Hill. hopefully for us, we can deal with the gas prices until then...
Dan Schorr's only usefulness is that he reveals just how far to the right you can be and still not be far enough right for the Republican-fascists. Scott Simon isn't taking that chance.
ah, now I know bkny is a woman.
Heehee! So's Thers...
TJ, how did the job interview(s) go this week? I seem to remember you had three.
Thanks, GWPDA.
That article proves the caluclated droppings.
No effect whatsoever. I drive about 500 miles per year and bicycle the rest. It's fun to see all the agony when I ride past gas stations full of desperate, mortified and angry motorists. Maybe they can go inside and cool down with a nice Slurpee or something. Happy motoring, America!
Ah, one of them lovely Greenies working on communication skillz, I see. Fucker.
next week the senate is going to try and pass an "emergency" funding of iraq and afghanistan "wars" of 106.5 billion.
Ntodd, I knew Thers was a woman, but bkny is news to me
not to mention to Mr. Dutra that rising gas prices affect more than just the cost of filling up the tank, as he will soon discover that the price of groceries and other products will be skyrocketing as well...
Now I live in the fucking boonies. Went to visit friends in town last night and it cost me 6 bucks just to get there. Guess I'll be dusting off the panniers and riding my bike everywhere this summer.
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me too...every outing costs a few bucks...6or 7 perdiem....walmart will be happy as a one stop shop
There is an extras casting call today for a big flic gonna be shooting in NM
but the call is being held in las vegas (nm), about 100 miles away from me...
that's a 200 mile round trip, at 30 mpg=7gal @ $3/gal = more than $20 just to go turn in a head-shot...if used, i'd hafta make that 200 mile DAILY round trip to pick up MAYBE $8/hr...
not gonna do it...
Well, oddly right now I have a job which is entirely, one hundred per cent. do-able by telecommuting. There is absolutely no reason for me to drive out to the Borg each and every day. There's even Borg policy supporting telecommuting as the best, most perfect solution.
Then there's the Borg managerette who cannot imagine such a thing. Despite the fact that I drive out to the Borg here in order to telecommute to Florida, it is required that I siphon the Borg's electricity and electrons directly from the Borg repository.
I'll give it another shot on Monday, but I'm not sanguine.
Ntodd, I knew Thers was a woman, but bkny is news to me
DWD - Challenging the world | Homepage - 9:36 am
NTodd & panniers
not to mention to Mr. Dutra that rising gas prices affect more than just the cost of filling up the tank, as he will soon discover that the price of groceries and other products will be skyrocketing as well...
Oh, I'm sure Mr Dutra also grows his own vegetables, makes his own clothing out of tofu, and has a deep, deep well.
you care, but 100% of congress are millionaires.....and they OBVIOUSLY dont care
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They are also MAJOR stock holders in the oil companies.
next week the senate is going to try and pass an "emergency" funding of iraq and afghanistan "wars" of 106.5 billion.
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to qote anorexic -Nancy Reagan...JUST SAY NO!
NTodd & panniers
A bit impractical for riding wear, but I'd definitely go for that on a Saturday night!
Ntodd, I knew Thers was a woman, but bkny is news to me
(Pssst! I was joking about Thers.)
(damn! I actually made some good tasting decaf this morning)
DWD--they went well, actually. Hoping for a callback for a second interview from the one firm that I really really liked (great vibes, great atmosphere, nice people, and it has received the "family-friendly workplace award" for the past five years or so). One interview was with a sole practitioner and he tentatively wants me to start a part-time/ contract basis onMay 8 if I can, but we are still discussing pay and how we will handle the kids finishing school, because I'm not going to move them before the end of the school year--this year has been traumatic enough, thank you very much. Ideally I was hoping to start in June. Also If I take this job it will only be on the understanding that I am looking for something full-time in the meantime.
NTodd, Bungholier -- Well, I'm in the Ohio near-boonies now, 3 miles to the closest village, eight to an actual town. My daughter drives 15 miles to work but I understand that's nothing to a lot of suburban, ex-urban, megolopolis folks. My sister lives in Norwalk CT and works in Mamaroneck NY -- as a librarian! I don't know how she'll afford to cope.
Reading upthread:
Zeus, didn't he eat his pregnant wife because he was afraid of wisdom? Perfect name for a Republican troll.
They are also MAJOR stock holders in the oil companies.
PeasantParty
And after just one two year term in Congress they are fully vested in the government health care plan and can purchase insurance at the group rate for the rest of their lives.
Fuckers.
(Psst, NTodd, I know.)
I'll give it another shot on Monday, but I'm not sanguine.
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I've been in a position like that. Let me tell you ahead of time about the manager/managerette. It's a huge jealousy factor with telecommunicates. You know, it's hard for some people to let lower salaried folks work in their pj's.
so, the dankso comment gave me away, huh. 
I'll give it another shot on Monday, but I'm not sanguine.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
watching the news and seeing those miles-long commuter traffic lines, i was wondering if this will encourage more businesses to stagger workhours or more telecommuting. i bet the fallout from this will be more acceptance by business for these adjustments.
coffee good.
consciousness bad.
NTodd, Bungholier -- Well, I'm in the Ohio near-boonies now, 3 miles to the closest village, eight to an actual town. My daughter drives 15 miles to work but I understand that's nothing to a lot of suburban, ex-urban, megolopolis folks. My sister lives in Norwalk CT and works in Mamaroneck NY -- as a librarian! I don't know how she'll afford to cope.
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tbillioaire YANKEES run for the pennant...oh and Katie Couric will be anchoring REAL NEWS all by herself
i bet the fallout from this will be more acceptance by business for these adjustments.
bkny
christ I hope so. because that is one thing about lawyering--fully 3/4 of what I do (research and writing) can be done from home.
cs - well then, the only solution is for everybody in your family to move to a city and live together! That's what our friend LFoD would say, I'm sure...
I think our gas situation is about as good as you can get around here. I live about four miles from work, Mrs DWD is about 1 mile. The only sticky part of the wicket is youngest DWD's steady girl who lives about fifteen miles South of here - and he can take my Honda. Still, we spent 120 dollars on gasoline last Wednesday when it was still "only" $2.70 a gallon. That might last a week or two.
coffee good.
consciousness bad.
conscious coffee badder.
good morning, watertiger.
Dependable Renegade has been on fire this week, btw. Love the picture of Cranky Bush.
And after just one two year term in Congress they are fully vested in the government health care plan and can purchase insurance at the group rate for the rest of their lives.
Fuckers.
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I think if their pensions were threatened and removed like ours, they would rethink the legislation over night!
i bet the fallout from this will be more acceptance by business for these adjustments.
Well that was the argument back in the 70s, but manageretts (damn GWPDA always knows just the right word) as has been noted are too afraid that you might dawdle over your coffee break to give up so much control.
i bet the fallout from this will be more acceptance by business for these adjustments.
Well that was the argument back in the 70s, but manageretts (damn GWPDA always knows just the right word) as has been noted are too afraid that you might dawdle over your coffee break to give up so much control.
I'm seeing a lot more one-car families in the future. The near future.
...if used, i'd hafta make that 200 mile DAILY round trip to pick up MAYBE $8/hr...
not gonna do it...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka...
All the brazillions Holllllywood spends on a pitcher, and that's all the extras get? Bet that leaves a bunch left over for nose toot, donit?
that last post was a bit of snark...but ,if nobody cares....WHAT CAN WE DO 
Zeus, didn't he eat his pregnant wife because he was afraid of wisdom?
Yes, he turned Metis into a fly and swallowed her. Then Athena burst forth from his head, fully grown.
Again, if Clinton (or any Democrat) had been presdident during this gasoline price run-up, do you think the press would not be calling for their head?
conscious coffee badder.
NTodd, Bungholier
You left the l out of bladder, NTodd.
Then Athena burst forth from his head, fully grown.
NTodd, Bungholier
Let's see if this Zeus' head blows. But we shouldn't expect wisdom to come out of it.
conscious coffee badder.
the timing on that is eerie. kettle is whistling in the kitchen.
You know, it's hard for some people to let lower salaried folks work in their pj's.
Maybe I'll offer to set up a web cam so she can confirm that I'm wearing Borg standard business casual fashions....
You left the l out of bladder, NTodd.
After a lot of drinking, something does get the 'l' out of my bladder...
TJ,
merci beaucoup. It's pretty easy when you have such a soft target, tho.
Frittatatop of the morning fellow travelers.
U always had a feeling that bkny was female.
Ntodd you might want to look into one of them one wheeled trailers (I personally can't stand riding a loaded up ride, the bike has to be naked)
New potatoe green chile red onion frittat experimentation underway.
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tbillioaire YANKEES run for the pennant...oh and Katie Couric will be anchoring REAL NEWS all by herself
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I think you really meant to say REEL news.
LOL
Morning Bats!
SF Chronicle says regarding yesterday's visit with the Arnold, The Chimp is "resigned to high oil prices"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar.../
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More like this: Chimp DESIGNED high oil prices.
Again, if Clinton (or any Democrat) had been presdident during this gasoline price run-up, do you think the press would not be calling for their head?
Just remember that in 2000, Bush was campaiging against high gas prices and promising to jawbone the Saudis about it...
christ I hope so. because that is one thing about lawyering--fully 3/4 of what I do (research and writing) can be done from home.
TJ
Ah, but most of my practice is litigation, and that requires driving all over SoCal. While I'm reimbursed for trips out of the county, LA is one huge county, and I'm usually in heavy traffic.
Maybe I'll offer to set up a web cam so she can confirm that I'm wearing Borg standard business casual fashions....
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Great Idea! Also, set your alarm for 4:30 am and call her each morning just to let her know you are up and ready. LOL Don't say I didn't warn you.
And after just one two year term in Congress they are fully vested in the government health care plan and can purchase insurance at the group rate for the rest of their lives.
that's what i've been wondering -- if the bennies were lifelong. of course, i should have assumed they were. and don't forget the annual raise they give themselves, cause it's soooo expensive living in wdc. i really detest these motherfuckers who live off the taxpayer tit and bribes and shamelessly dismantle the safety net of the most vulnerable -- who now include the middleclass.
I'm telling you. Someone in the Bush family was watching Goldfinger and got the idea of running the price of oil way up as a way of making them all richer. What better way than to have war throughout the middle east.
SF Chronicle says regarding yesterday's visit with the Arnold, The Chimp is "resigned to high oil prices"
Saw that. AP also using the "resigned" language:
APR. 21 8:03 P.M. ET As oil prices hit a record, drivers worried about $3-a-gallon gas and politicians feared the impact on elections, President Bush on Friday acknowledged the pain but seemed resigned to being able to do little about it.
"I know the folks here are suffering at the gas pump," the president said while promoting his competitiveness initiative at the Silicon Valley headquarters of Internet networking company Cisco Systems Inc. "Rising gasoline prices is like taking a -- is like a tax, particularly on the working people and the small-business people."
But to address the immediate problem, Bush offered only a pledge that "if we find any price gouging it will be dealt with firmly."
Certainly not the kind of coverage the White House would like. oh, and somebody at DailyKos has a good diary up about how it is NOT like a tax.
More Wonderful "Free Market" Reforms From Those Corporate Pirates
don't forget the annual raise they give themselves
Actually, it can't be annual, per the 27th Amendment.
Just remember that in 2000, Bush was campaiging against high gas prices and promising to jawbone the Saudis about it...
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NTodd, Thanks!
That is just perfect. Yes, I remember. I also remember Clinton calling for loads of investigations into the profit mongers.
SF Chronicle says regarding yesterday's visit with the Arnold, The Chimp is "resigned to high oil prices"
"Mah poor buddies in the oil industry are just gonna have to sit back and take it."
Kent, reading anything interesting?
somebody at DailyKos has a good diary up about how it is NOT like a tax.
Well, it's just an analogy, but I think he's right in a sense. He just should've said "regressive motherfucking tax".
Of course, a tax at least goes into the public coffers. These "taxes" go right into his oil buddies' pockets.
How is it that the traitorous CIA leaker does not get big play here? Gonna claim she's a whistleblower? Jail time coming I think. Wonder if they let folks bring their Pulitzers along for cell decoration?
SF Chronicle says regarding yesterday's visit with the Arnold, The Chimp is "resigned to high oil prices"
Saw that. AP also using the "resigned" language:
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new message for the decider
HE NEEDS TO RESIGN
NOT BE RESIGNED
OH EITHER WAY
can we resign him?
"Mah poor buddies in the oil industry are just gonna have to sit back and take it."
"Thank you sir, may I have another?!"
Hamas, Fatah supporters clash in Gaza
Students supporting the Fatah party and the radical Islamic group Hamas have clashed in Gaza, throwing stones at each other.
The clashes on Saturday began when dozens of Fatah supporters at Al-Azhar University, a strongly pro-Fatah institution, climbed on to the roof of a building, unfurled the party's yellow flag and began throwing rocks on students at the Islamic University, next door.
The Islamist students, supporters of Hamas, stoned them back.
The clashes came amidst escalating tensions between Hamas and the Fatah party of Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president.
I've never seen gas stations out of gas. Last night we needed three before we find one that was open, and we passed a bunch more that were out (central jersey).
not good.
How is it that the traitorous CIA leaker does not get big play here? Gonna claim she's a whistleblower?
Yup, she's a whistleblower. And you're a goatfucking bag of anal secretions.
who now include the middleclass.
bkny
If there is a rebellion, that is where it will come from. One professor I had opined that the reason change comes from the middle class is because they have the time to study the matter and to agitate to for change. But with most families now needing 2-3 jobs just to maintain a modest middle-class lifestyle, I wonder it that still holds true.
Of course, a tax at least goes into the public coffers. These "taxes" go right into his oil buddies' pockets.
NTodd, Bungholier
That was the point of the diary. A tax provides public revenue, this money simply goes to fund Exxon's CEO's severance package. So in no sense is it a tax, regressive or otherwise, which by definition is to benefit the public good.
But to address the immediate problem, Bush offered only a pledge that "if we find any price gouging it will be dealt with firmly."
goddamn, the bubble that sonofabitch lives in is fucking impenetrable. let him utter his meaningless statements -- it only adds more nails to the gop coffin.
History channel is showing a doc on the civil rights movement.
The opposition of this miovement has metasticised into todays Republican Party.
Digby had something up in response to the Tomasky piece.....the whole array of narrow special interests being held responsible for the fact that half of this country really resents the hell out of minorities, women and working people getting a fair shake. And the Democrats continue to pay the political price for that resentment.
Also like to bring an example of what it is like to see the world through rose colored glasses, from Tboggs place
RE: WHAT BUSH NEEDS [Jonah Goldberg]
A reader named Joe writes:
Jonah, what YOU need is a big yank back into reality. His low numbers, to a very large degree, are caused by the press. Negative story after negative story. How can you say all he needs is a little time away from the public? Like the press is gonna forget they despise him? Come on, Jonah, you are a better man than that.
Me:I think Joe's right. Though I'm not sure it contradicts what I said. It's certainly true that Clinton's comeback benefited greatly from the fact the press wanted him to make a comeback. I can't imagine the press would do anything but pounce on Bush like a wounded fawn if he tried to act on my advice. Perhaps Rove can figure out a way to go over the Washington media's head as he did in the '04 campaign, but I doubt that's possible now.
Yeah, joe is prolly right......
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More Wonderful "Free Market" Reforms From Those Corporate Pirates
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Shhhh! It's a big secret about the dangers of those GM seeds. We wouldn't want too much discussion about it.
But to address the immediate problem, Bush offered only a pledge that "if we find any price gouging it will be dealt with firmly."
goddamn, the bubble that sonofabitch lives in is fucking impenetrable. let him utter his meaningless statements -- it only adds more nails to the gop coffin.
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which of his firms are benefitting?
But to address the immediate problem, Bush offered only a pledge that "if we find any price gouging it will be dealt with firmly."
He meant it would give him a woody
SF Chronicle says regarding yesterday's visit with the Arnold, The Chimp is "resigned to high oil prices"
As the Desider, he's desidered he's resignered to keepin' that gas high. After all, his base has got bills, you know.
But to address the immediate problem, Bush offered only a pledge that "if we find any price gouging it will be dealt with firmly."
"Just like we did with Enron in California!"
'Digby had something up in response to the Tomasky piece.....the whole array of narrow special interests being held responsible for the fact that half of this country really resents the hell out of minorities, women and working people getting a fair shake. And the Democrats continue to pay the political price for that resentment.'
That is why they/GOP really hate them some John Edwards!
I have no idea why the tags did that. I closed them.
Damn you, haloscan!
But to address the immediate problem, Bush offered only a pledge that "if we find any price gouging it will be dealt with firmly."
And they'll probably find the gouging next to those WMD from Iraq.
Fuck him with one of Big Dick's huntin' trips.
New potato green chile red onion frittata experimentation underway.
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UnitedNegroEmerites
Make sure to have a supply of honey nearby. Trust me....
Of course, a tax at least goes into the public coffers. These "taxes" go right into his oil buddies' pockets.
NTodd, Bungholier
Well, it is a wealth transfer, so I guess it's "like a tax" in that way!
New potato green chile red onion frittata experimentation underway.
oh, fuckin' YUM!
yes we will all be housebound....and then ABU G. will close down the internets 
fyi, lots of good stuff in that CNN email feedback link I posted upthread. More examples:
Due to gas prices we have decided to move our daughter from the excellent elementary school she has been attending to one in our neighborhood that will not offer her the advantages that her current school does. We just cannot afford the gas it takes to daily go that far back and forth.
Shannon Ratzlaff, Tulsa, Oklahoma
I am a full time working mom with a 3-year-old and a husband. I recently had to quit my job (my last day is Wednesday) so i could find something closer to home. Its unbelievable when my son's day care costs less money than my husband's and my gas for the month!
Tiffany, Marlboro, New York, $3.06/gallon
But to address the immediate problem, Bush offered only a pledge that "if we find any price gouging it will be dealt with firmly."
Just like the Plame leak.
I wonder if Arthur'll let me have some breakfast?
can we resign him?
sittenpretty - 9:55 am
D-S H™
That is why they/GOP really hate them some John Edwards!
That is why anytime anyone attempts to discuss issues of class in anything resembling a serious matter, has to be run out of dodge and never again invited to a venue with any serious marketshare.
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Of course, the wingers' response to Tiffany from Marlboro NY is that she should stay home like a good little Stepford wife and take care of her three-year old: Voila, problem solved!
Owls fluttering in the breeze . . . .
I have no idea why the tags did that. I closed them.
Sorry dear, but the source says otherwise.
That is why they/GOP really hate them some John Edwards!
That is why anytime anyone attempts to discuss issues of class in anything resembling a serious matter, has to be run out of dodge and never again invited to a venue with any serious marketshare.
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populist party anyone?
NTodd, curse away, this one's gonna screw you guys up.
NTodd, curse away, this one's gonna screw you guys up.
Who exactly are "you guys"?!?!?
I mean I am a Reds fan (cincinnatti) who are you rooting for?
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You pukes crack me up. Cryin about gas. I smell fear in here. And it's not about gas prices....
I like the Phillies.
cnn has a program tonight 'we were warned' that looks to be a sequel to syriana.
shorter wycliff:
lalalalalala ..
Just remember that in 2000, Bush was campaiging against high gas prices and promising to jawbone the Saudis about it...
NTodd, Bungholier
The jawboning of an ass.
free Wang! that's a call to action, by the way, not an offer...
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