I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Strawmen suck.
Frist?
Turkey
So does Beinhart
thrid
I've thought about this many times in the last couple of years. Clinton was doing his job. No big surprises, which is how it should be. But then, no big heady news either. Government running as it should.
I am so sick and tired of waking up every morning and thinking, what's going to happen next? Truly sick of it.
Prime Fighting Age Beinart is a Serious Grownup New Republican Editor not a Dirty Hippie Uncivil Blogger.
That's the difference.
These pundits have to suffer, themselves. Obviously seeing their blather turn to a bloodbath doesn't make an impression. It's all about their position in the DC-NYC pundit universe to them. The blood of millions, the honor and respect of the United States, the entire treasury of the country, count for nothing if they can get the right invitations and speaking engangements.
And the "liberal" pundits are the worst because they are providing the fake media system with "liberals" to spout the fascist line that liberals wouldn't.
They have to suffer, they have to be discounted. You don't get to be as wrong as they have about something this important and get to keep being taken seriously.
The "Democrats have no vision" on issue x (or, more generally "for America") and that they must establish said vision (but it Must Be Serious, as far from Dirty Hippie as possible) is the first of the canards that has to die.
Or at least one of them.
But..but...
Thinking long term requires, um, you to think! We don't have time for that! We've got cocktail parties to attend to, and corporate dick to suck!
Anyone have a dustbuster that vacuums out sinuses?
Eli, what's on tap for Scifi Saturday Night Original Pictures?
Sallyh,
Does Spring trigger allergies for you?
I'm not Eli, but tonight's feature is "The Monkey King", which appears to be some sort of Asian mythology thingy.
When Clinton went to Belfast, Northern Ireland after Senator Mitchell (Dem) had brokered the peace agreement, half a million people turned up to see him. When he went to Dublin, there were even more people cheering.
To this day Clinton is considered a God in Ireland.
Beinart doesn't know his arse from elbow. He has now been cursed by the Irish.
A President said that?
An American President said that?
Without trite pseudo-religious reactionaryism?
Without uttering stumbling bumper sticker absolutisms?
Wow.. That would be awesome.
Sallyh, Sandy-LA, I am an hour away from taking two benadryl and passing out for the night.
I've never tried a neti pot, I'm not sure I'd be brave enough but my brother swears by it.
doesn't count.....that was before 9/11
SallyH, haven't seen Eli round yet, but the Monkey King is on for a full four hours this eve. A story of an American Scholor of Chinese History who somehow has until midnight teusday to save the world.
And all of those army of soldiers that they uncovered in the seventies are alive and will no doubt be of tremendous assistance.
Not so much of the manimal or alien visiting a human smorgasboard kind of theme.
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I'm beginning to believe Clinton was never president. Seems like such a distant, fake memory...
To this day Clinton is considered a God in Ireland.
I met my sister-in-laws cousin, a nun from Dublin. She said, I can't believe that they're bringing up that stuff (his affair). That's no one's business. It was about a year after the treaty was signed.
olvlzl,
My internist doctor recommended use of something similar to the neti pot. But the gist of it was to use sterile water, I think -- something you can buy at the drugstore to aerate (sp?) the nasal passages. Supposed to be helpful for healing sinus conditions.
_The Spy Who Came In From The Cold_
Richard Burton
TCM
Anyone have a dustbuster that vacuums out sinuses?
right there with you...
"And then Peter Beinart decided that going to war with Iraq was a good idea"
gee, I dunno, "atrios". I just have this vague little feeling that something significant might have happened between 1997 and Peter's great idea.
Gosh, what was that thing? umm, errr. Oh well, it can't have been very important, because you didn't mention it.
Anyone have a dustbuster that vacuums out sinuses?
Bad over here too. Let me recommend one of those neat steamy face things meant to make your complexion fresh and dewy. Sneak a little oil of eucalyptus into it and go to town.
Sandy--spring does kick them up, and I have chronic sinus problems anyway.
Clinton has no Cheetos in his beard. Neither did Al Gore, when he had a beard.
Clinton had no plan! Bauk, bauk! No plan! No plan! Dems need a plan! Bauk, bauk! Go to war! War! War! Bauk, bauk!
hola...
I just have this vague little feeling that something significant might have happened between 1997 and Peter's great idea.
Bush and the Republican-fascist Supremes ended democracy in the United States.
Ted, the troll of a thousand faces that still are uglier than a shaved dog ass.
Whoever the six Congressmen involved in hookergate are, I hope someone's digging up everything they said about Clinton's blowjob. Goddess knows, the DNC won't bother.
Apparently someone just blew his/her nose rather successfully in here. Somebody get a Kleenex for that, huh?
I'm beginning to believe Clinton was never president. Seems like such a distant, fake memory...
Living in the wilderness during the Reagan Years is almost looking like Shangra La!
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Anyone have a dustbuster that vacuums out sinuses?
Tell Chimpy you just snorted an once of coke and give him a straw.
Clinton had no plan! Bauk, bauk! No plan! No plan! Dems need a plan! Bauk, bauk! Go to war! War! War! Bauk, bauk!
Hecate, Grammar Fa
Echidne, you've got to make a sampler with this on it.
Hecate, that's brilliant.
Draft the pundits. That's a law I could get behind. First in line: Trannie Annie, Kathleen Parkwhore, Dictation Deb Saunders and the rest of the "girls": Beinart, Jonah Goldfat, Assrocket, etc.
rkrider beat me to it.
The Bushistas just drone "9/11 changed everything."
I'm beginning to believe Clinton was never president. Seems like such a distant, fake memory...
NT'dizzle,
Damn, if that isn't the fucking truth.
I keep wanting to get a bullhorn and drive up and down the streets of Dallas yelling: "That blow job doesn't look so bad now, does it?"
I'd like to say: "does it, motherfuckers!?" but that's probably not a good idea with a bullhorn.
is it not stunning how stupid people can be?
gee, I dunno, "atrios". I just have this vague little feeling that something significant might have happened between 1997 and Peter's great idea.
What? The Blow Job That Ended Western Civilization?
Imagine...listening to a President who could speak in coherent sentences...
tena - I'm the kind who wouldn't give 2 shits if I said it in a bullhorn or not.
Truth is truth, no matter if it hurts or not.
High Vicki - glad to see you could join us.
hat, just leave. Now. I have no tolerance for dumbshits any longer. Leave.
I don't have alergies, but even I was sneezing today while working in the yard. There are drifts and drifts of these fluffy things that come from the oak trees. Oak sex, I call them. The guys who came and cleaned my gutters pulled pounds and pounds of them out of the gutters. I do wish I could have you all over to see my yard tonight.
A cruel drunk imbecile being handed the keys to America's car changed everything.
"hat" is Billy Graham, BTW.
Peace.
is it not stunning how stupid people can be?
Yes. It. Is.
You could provide conclusive proof that Cheneykins plotted 9/11, provide incontrovertable video evicence of Dear leader Sodomising a Goat in the oval office, while felating an AlterBoy, and being spanked by a leather-clcad LauraBot2006, and the idiots would still wish it away.
Nice Cult they got going.
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"That blow job doesn't look so bad now, does it?"
I'd like to say: "does it, motherfuckers!?"
I have a feeling people would throw money and flowers at you.
Imagine...listening to a President who could speak in coherent sentences...
Diane | Homepage | 04.29.06 - 7:44 pm | #
Diane,
I seem to be agreeing with you today, Diane.
I would feel much safer if I thought the man running the country had some brains in his head.
hat" is Billy Graham, BTW.
Nah. We proved conclusively some time ago that hat is Drudge, jealously trolling Atrio's blog.
I assume someone here has the stomach to watch the white house correspondents dinner and report back
Imagine...listening to a President who could speak in coherent sentences...
Imagine is about all we can do these days.
Atrios--not tonight, dear, I've got a headache.
The future "Joint" Chiefs won't take this shit.
Angry cadets riot following drug search
West Point - Cadets angry over a drug search rioted for more than an hour last week, throwing fireworks and garbage from their barracks in an uproar one officer described as "shameful."
I would feel much safer if I thought the man running the country had some brains in his head.
What is truly sad, is that everyone in this room is at least twice as smart as the bumbling fool some refer to as the commander in chief, save one.
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Atrios,
res ipsa should get, shall we say, a first-hand report.
Clinton put himself on the line in the Northern Ireland dispute, in the Middle East. He never hesitated to invest his moral capital, knowledge and intellect. In retrospect, he looks better and better. Doesn't Carter, who got laughed at for wearing sweaters but was blanking right, utterly right?
Worth pointing out that Carter, perhaps the most scientifically literate man to occupy the White House, a well-trained nuclear engineer, is also a devout Christian...
Nah. We proved conclusively some time ago that hat is Drudge, jealously trolling Atrio's blog.
All hat and no cattle...
Nah. We proved conclusively some time ago that hat is Drudge, jealously trolling Atrio's blog.
All hat and no cattle...
It's really sad that Bush has zero tolernace for Diplomacy.
I would feel much safer if I thought the man running the country had some brains in his head.
C'mon, now. The man running the country has brains in his head.
'course, he's about to be indicted... and we'll be left with chimpy
WH 'ho's dinner is tonight?
Never have I been so happy to have the tube commandeered by munchkins playing Smash Bros. Melee.
Sallyh: have some tylenol, then some champagne. Works for most headaches I or my significant others have complained about...
Billy Graham, Drudge, it's all one to me.
As a proud Intellectual in the grand French tradition I'd like to say to anyone who disagrees--
Blow me.
Otherwise, you know, peace.
I'll tivo it but I don't think I have the stomach to watch it without having some filter first.
Besides, someone was kind enough to put the latest doctor who episode on the internets already. I love the internets.
Say what you want about Clinton,
He could meet with any foreign leader and keep the conversation civil while building bridges of understanding.
All Bush knows how to do is blow up bridges and start civil wars.
ProfWombat,
Not only a devout xian, but a Sunday school teacher, even when he was in the WH. Didn't flaunt his faith the way Bush does, just showed up and tried to practice it. His new book is great.
UNE ThreadZeus (tm):
No, what is truly sad, is that even as I posted that I was a tiny bit afraid -- have begun to feel a tiny bit afraid lately (especially since Sallyh's incident with the airlines), that what we post here is being monitored and that someday down the road, our freedom to say what we believe, will be eroded and we will be caught in the backlash.
It's really sad that Bush has zero tolernace for Diplomacy.
PoliShifter
Diplomacy isn't manly.
Blowing things up is.
QED
WaPo
Cadets Vent at West Point After Drug Searches
All hat and no cattle...
NT'dizzle, Liberal Buttizzle
And some folks here would love this blog to be all cat and no hat.
Is "filter" what the kids are calling chronic these days?
Think of it... even in the 60s the cadets at West Point never rioted. I have lived long enough, I can die happy. America is safe.
hat: another cowardly lyin who can't find his local recruiting office.
Sheets upstairs.
Hecate: yup. Christianity is big enough that, despite the Holy Willies out there, someone will occasionally come up and give the old beliefs a good name.
I'm in a bit of a quandary about that, actually. I try to resolve it by noting that those Christians who I feel honor their beliefs have little to say about others, and reluctantly, but honestly, confront themselves. Note Carter, again, made fun of for noting in a 'Playboy' interview that he lusted after women other than Rosalynn in his heart. Nobody in possession of an XY chromosome can honestly deny knowledge of what Carter was talking about, yet he was savaged for it.
And some folks here would love this blog to be all cat and no hat.
Heehee!
Is "filter" what the kids are calling chronic these days?
Silleigh, aka Furiousleigh
Da' chronic, and I have no idea. Who can keep up with those crazy kids.
This smoking bowl of evil bears the choking stench of sin /
It burrows like a weevil under tender Christian skin /
Teenagers across the land are glazed and oversexed /
If you fail to draw the line, YOUR babies will be next /
OHHHHH! Reefer madness, reefer madness...
No, what is truly sad, is that even as I posted that I was a tiny bit afraid
Absolutely, and the irony is that we have managed to accomplish in reflex to one horrible day what the terrorists might have only dreamed in their wildest imagination: The fundimental destruction of American Ideals.
Unfortunately we all pine, on every ideological spectrum for an America that never truly existed, but to destroy the Ideals, I don't believe to be "accidental".
One of these days I would not be suprised to find us pining ala "Casablanca" "We'll always have Gitmo" or whatever name they give to the holding pen de jur.
"Anyone have a dustbuster that vacuums out sinuses?"
Try frequent use of colloidal silver used like nose drops.
I know who each and every one of you is. I know what you write. I know what you think. I control the horizontal I control the vertical. Wait by the door while some Federal employees come to ask you a few questions.
France had a revolt by senior generals and they survived. I wouldn't worry too much about some cadets.
There is nothing to be alarmed about. Please remain indoors.
Invading Iraq was the best thing to happen to Isr...I mean, The Free World. And bombing Iran will be the second best thing to happen to Isr...I mean, The Free World.
Only Islamofascist lovers like Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan think otherwise. They do not have the best intersts of Isr...I mean, The Free World at heart.
Went and googled "neti pot" and damn if there isn't a perfectly current story Explaining It All For You in the Hampton Roads VA Daily Press, of all things.
I myself will stick to sneezing for now, but as an overall system this aryuvedic stuff doesn't sound nearly as outlandish as expected.
It was a good idea. At least as I explained it...
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ProfWombat--how's Dr. Mrs. Wombat feeling? She's probably not ready to celebrate yet, but, according to my analysis, the odds of better times at the WombatCave have vastly increased 
ah, some more spreading of "democracy" BS. such as clinton's support of enron's gouging of india, just to cite one hypocrisy. but hey, i'm sure he felt their pain.
OT I guess I should feel like a loser being excited about the WH Correspondents' Dinner, but really, how many times will I get the chance to watch Scalia walking around swigging a bottle of Corona?
(AP) Pakistan on Saturday successfully test fired its longest-range nuclear-capable surface-to-surface missile, the military said.
The ballistic Missile Hatf VI (Shaheen II), with a range of 1,555 miles, can carry "nuclear and conventional warheads with high accuracy," a Pakistan military statement said.
The upgraded and new version of the Shaheen II missile was carried "to validate additional technical parameters beyond those that were verified in the last test fire in March 2005," it said.
The statement said the Shaheen II missile is Pakistan's longest-range missile.
An earlier version of the missile was tested in March 2005 and proved capable of hitting major cities in neighboring India.
Pakistan informed all its neighbors, including India, in advance of the test, said an official at the foreign ministry, adding that the missile test would not damage improving relations between the two.
"No, it will not hurt the peace process," said the official on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
The military statement did not disclose where the latest test was conducted.
After witnessing the missile test, Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz congratulated the scientists, engineers and the technical staff for "achieving yet another milestone on the road to success."
Aziz also said Pakistan's strategy of credible minimum deterrence was fully in place and served as a guarantee of peace in the region.
In a separate statement, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf congratulated Pakistan on its successful missile test.
Pakistan, which became a nuclear power in 1998 by conducting underground tests in response to similar tests in India, has a variety of short, medium and long-range missiles that officials say have been developed indigenously.
Pakistan and India have a history of bitter relations and have fought three wars since gaining independence from Britain in 1947.
I wonder if Beinart ever knows of this new search tool on the web called Google...It's pretty neat...
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Clinton:
"America has always been a nation of immigrants. From the start, a steady stream of people, in search of freedom and opportunity, have left their own lands to make this land their home. We started as an experiment in democracy fueled by Europeans. We have grown into an experiment in democratic diversity fueled by openness and promise.
My fellow Americans, we must never ever believe that diversity is a weakness -- it is our greatest strength."
bush:
President Bush yesterday said "The Star-Spangled Banner" should be sung in English, not Spanish
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6042801036.html
Clinton left more on a blue dress than that dunce, moron, metaphysical idiot bush will ever have.
hello
bush:
President Bush yesterday said "The Star-Spangled Banner" should be sung in English, not Spanish.
-Well they can't sing it in Iraqi, either.
Fucking media!
Any gossip about Clinton could be told to the sheep, the media saying "we're doing our job",
Under Dubya, "we've got to stand with OUR PRESIDENT while fighting The Global War on Terra!"
Damn you got post happy!
That Congress, led by Republicans like Senator Arthur Vandenberg, answered President Truman's call. Together they made the commitments that strengthened our country for 50 years. Now let us do the same. Let us do what it takes to remain the indispensable nation -- to keep America strong, secure and prosperous for another 50 years.
Most people don't realize the degree to which the foundation for Bush's extremist foreign policy was laid by Clinton. Read that quote again with the knowledge that what Truman began was the largest military buildup in world history as a direct response to the preceived threat by the Soviet Union.
Clinton was arguing we do the same thing, and for what? So America can continue in its role as the "indispensable nation." Yeah, right. We're indispensable, if you consider starting a war every few years to be indispensable.
Clinton was also disingenuous by saying only 1% goes to foreign policy. American foreign policy, since the Truman days, has been largely carried out by the military. And the military is NOT 1% of the US budget.
Clinton and Bush are very different kinds of imperialists. Clinton's imperialism was economic, multilateral, and only used the military as the option of last resort. But imperialism it was.
Bush's is unilateral and militaristic. We were much better off under Clinton. But we need to recognize how deeply imbedded in American politics imperialism has become before we have a prayer of doing anything about it.
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