I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
First!
trud
Spy on me!
let's keep the foliage out of it, 'kay?
From a satellite? Well Blue-Freaking-Thunder, meet Tom Clancy!
Open up your gullets libs and get ready for some pancakes straight outta gammy's kitchen.
Well, I hope this sinks Hayden's nomination for good. Bastard rat-turd!
Shocked? No... As someone on this blog said some time ago, "And this time next year, our shit will be blue, the sky will stink, and Republicans will still all be criminals."
there's just no end to it, is there?
Shocked?
As in a cattle prod to the nethers by the NSA?
you can count on Joe Lieberman to propose changing the law to make satellite-based spying on Americans legal...
They're hoping the market will lose 120 points so we won't notice. Oh, right, it did.
As in a cattle prod to the nethers by the NSA?
As in a cattle prod to the nethers of the NSA?
I fixed your typo.
So is Bill Bennett laying odds on Tice making it to next week in one piece?
Just remember to look skyward and wave.
No pancakes or kool-aid for me. Don't you have a housefull of stray cats to attend to, "grandma" or are you going to just let them crap all over the place? Someone really ought to call the authorities - I mean, it's a real health hazard.
We shouldn't rush to be shocked at new revelations of the Administration's wrongdoings. He's our president and deserves our support.
Ooh Jeff Koinage, the man with the lovely accent on CNN.
. . . and yet 63% of Americans will say it's OK if it keeps the boogeyman under the bed from biting their toes at night.
It's Friday, 4 pm Central.
What fresh hell hath the Bush Administration unleashed?
What devious activities have they tried to slide past us this week?
So that's what that glinting thing was over the backyard when I was sunbatheing nude, hmmm?
So, will we GET to hear the details in order to be shocked, or will all this be kept classified?
Amigos,
May I present:
¡Maldiciones!
A modest proposal for incivility.
so.
NSA Whistleblower To Expose More Unlawful Activity: ‘People…Are Going To Be Shocked’
CongressDaily reports that former NSA staffer Russell Tice will testify to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week that not only do employees at the agency believe the activities they are being asked to perform are unlawful, but that what has been disclosed so far is only the tip of the iceberg. Tice will tell Congress that former NSA head Gen. Michael Hayden, Bush’s nominee to be the next CIA director, oversaw more illegal activity that has yet to be disclosed.
--From "Think Progress" 
In other news four more U S soldiers died today protecting our way of life.
Marines Killed in Tank Accident in Iraq
By THOMAS WAGNER
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Four Marines drowned when their tank rolled off a bridge and plunged into a canal, the military said Friday, adding that while the accident occurred in a Sunni insurgent stronghold, it was not the result of an enemy action.
see just an accident - happy mothers day.
Since there's no recent open thread, this is WAY off-topic:
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This quite possibly could put bush's approval ratings in the teens with Darth Vader. Can't wait to hear what Mr. Tice, has to say. Wonder how the repukes will spin this one?
“I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It’s pretty hard to believe,” Tice said. “I hope that they’ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn’t exist right now.” …
I wonder if they saw the giant "Suck it, Bush!" sign on my roof.
Ah, the good old economic system set up by our imperial administration, the region of Nigeria rich in oil is an area that is dirt poor. The citizens see virtually no benefit.
Well, that could explain the e-mail problems I've been having with liberal organizations and some activists, and hell, even with certain people from Eschaton.
I'll admit to a sad feeling about this. How many times have we told each other in the past five years, 'This is it! They've gone too far! The scales will fall from their eyes, and the forces of right will triumph!', only to be told a few weeks later that it's Ok, and if it isn't, it's Saddam's, Osama's or Clinton's fault?
Nothing much to do but keep showing up, is there?
Oh man! I just posted this link in the last dead thread!
Do I get a gold star?
“I hope that they’ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn’t exist right now.”
"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order."
So, whose basement is this guy going to hide in until next week?
I'd volunteer, except my house probably is under surveillance already.
“I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It’s pretty hard to believe,” Tice said.
Goddam, somebody get this guy a few bodyguards, and tell him to stay away from small planes and elevators.
I have to go soon here, but to what do you all speculate he's referring?
Tapping in on phone sex? Or something more diabolical? Like tapping into political opponents in 2004?
Or something worse?
I fell off a bridge on a sled one winter -- but fall off a bridge in a TANK? Oy!
God fucking damn it. Congress, get off your collective ass and kick these freaks to the curb. For the rest of us, if Congress won't do it's job, then elect people who will.
19%, here we come!
The President knows best.
The President knows best.
Oh help me mommy
The President knows best.
The president knows best.
This Fascist Dictatorship Brought to You by the Republican Party!
I'd clutch my pearls in shock if I had any.
no Fitzivus today?
I bet political opponents
Beyond the tipping point.
I'm having outrage fatigue
Fuck Fitz. He's just blowing smoke up our ass.
Well, I hope this sinks Hayden's nomination for good. Bastard rat-turd!
I hope so too, but we know that a lot more than that needs to get sunk along with him. He's just a facilitator of the Administration's regime.
Just what is it going to take for the sheep to smell the shit?
And cue the Lee Greenwood...
And I proud to be an American,
Where at least, I know, I'm free...
Wonder how the repukes will spin this one?
"It's always tragic when a man takes his own life..."
So I presume the papers have Tice's obituary on hand.
Oh man! I just posted this link in the last dead thread!
Do I get a gold star?
You can get a gold star after we get the unicorn ponies wearing crotchless panties and carrying hecklers carrying heads on pikes.
We're at 29%!!!
Where are the unicorn ponies wearing crotchless panties and carrying hecklers carrying heads on pikes???
I am deeply disappointed.
Maybe this Tice fellow will tell us, Vicki. That's what I want to know, too. Exactly what have they been doing? Because nobody is buying this mindless "fightin' terra!" bullshit.
No Rove indictment and Deadwood gets canceled, even though the HBO cocksuckers had previously greenlighted another season. Bummer.
At any rate, it's a good day for...
Catblogging!
Sure, we might be shocked. The question is, will we think it's funny?
I'd clutch my pearls in shock if I had any.
NTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents.
Because nobody is buying this mindless "fightin' terra!" bullshit.
(Auggy and David are.)
I'm not certain I understand what kind of troll grandma is ...
Perhaps grandma is cooking some meth in her kitchen and that's why she never makes any sense.
Ooh Jeff Koinage, the man with the lovely accent on CNN.
attaturk
Jeff Koinage? That can't be his given name.
I wonder what Tice is talking about.
If it's just wholesale vacuuming, or massive databases and data mining, or listening in on the top guys at the IAEA or foreigners, etc, that's not too shocking.
If they're listening on reporters, political activists, the Kerry campaign, then that would qualify.
Perhaps not to people here, but regular people.
What would be worse than torture and rendition? i don't think that can happen.
19%, here we come!
Is that a challenge?
Are you up for more frilly wear?
And cue the Lee Greenwood...
And I proud to be an American,
Where at least, I know, I'm free...
Free to go to work and to Church and to raise your children to be good god-fearing obedient Americans, that's what Lee meant, Mr. SmartGuy.
What's with all this bullshit haloscan warnings telling me I have too many empty lines? My original post had all of two sentences in it with a single blank line in between then. Thus technically the warning should have said too many blank line, not blank line(s).
I don't know but Haloscan keeps getting suckier and suckier!
MYOB'
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Perhaps grandma is cooking some meth in her kitchen and that's why she never makes any sense.
and smells so funny
NTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents.
Stunt Woman
His protective force field might get in the way.
Well,I say Godwin's Law is dead and gone, and any comparisons of Bushco and his rightwing media whores to Hitler's Reich and Goerring are in danger of becoming unfairly harsh to the Krauts. Glen beck and the other bloviators would be in favor of ovens for Muslims and Mexicans, and if Shock and Awe wasn't genocidal, then I just don't know.
Could y'all ease up on the "Cocksucker' stuff?
/cocksucker
Deadwood gets canceled, even though the HBO cocksuckers had previously greenlighted another season. Bummer.
Oh, Mr.Litz will be verklempt. Me, I hated that show. I call it the Cocksucka Show. I never got the point of it.
I miss "Dead Like Me." That's another show that was supposed to have a second season and they yanked at the last minute.
This fella better stash himself somewhere far away and reeeeealllll hard to find for a while, hmm?
Am I correct in understanding that the government has records of those phone calls people are making that you hear in the check-out line or on the bus -- you know the long, pointless, narrative kind. All the communications between teenagers chattering and texting endlessly about the subtle nuances of youth culture are part of this huge government database?
Well, with any luck, any sort of AI program designed to analyze that crap will probably just throw up.
Matthews is amazingly coherent today, regarding the CIA: It seems like Bush wants to use the CIA to confirm what he already believes, then when it doesn't work out he blames them for it. He's trying to stifle them first with Goss and now maybe with Hayden.
Good for you Chris.
Are you up for more frilly wear?
smalfish, terrorist
You should see my closet!
Jeff Koinage? That can't be his given name. -Holden
He's money and he doesn't even know it.
I hope the NSA releases Hayden's phone records.
How bout some choice bits from America's Taliban to make you day complete?
Oh hell fucking no. Too many eyes are looking at them. If something were to happen to Tice, for instance, the whole thing might blow up. I doubt that even Bushco and their corpo-fascist pals are crazy enough to try something like that.
Going to be Shocked
That's what the farmer said before I pissed on his electric fence.
"NTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents."
--Stunt Woman
I was sure it was a quarter. Maybe he's having a sale this week?
Could y'all ease up on the "Cocksucker' stuff?
Sorry.
I'm betting that this regards to the surveillance of political opponents, possibly during the '04 presidential campaign. Subversion of Democracy, anyone ?
Somebody put this guy in a safe-house this weekend !
Well, have a fun evening.
I'm off to visit some friends and avoid Italian men who make confessions to me like the plague.
Later, gators. I'll prolly be back around prime time...feeling prime (maybe).
Wonder how the repukes will spin this one?
"It's always tragic when a man takes his own life..."
dave™©
Could be this is why he gave a small statement about what his testimony would be about. I am thinking it keeps him a bit safer.
I hope the NSA releases Hayden's phone records.
We can still buy them for $100.
That's what the farmer said before I pissed on his electric fence.
Holden Caulfield
And he was proven fucking right.
Oh hell fucking no. Too many eyes are looking at them. If something were to happen to Tice, for instance, the whole thing might blow up. I doubt that even Bushco and their corpo-fascist pals are crazy enough to try something like that.
B1 Bummer
Word. And if Tice knows, others know.
I'm not certain I understand what kind of troll grandma is ...
grandma is a 'dith' kind of troll. since calling it dith, it has gone away.
Tice is a little disgruntled weasel, couldn't take the heat, going for the easy media cash-out now.
Hey, Vicki - this one's for you!
Conservatarians are people who trust faceless bureaucrats to respect self-monitored limits on their use of spying techniques.
the rights smeat will be "he was recently fired as coach of the minnesota vikings"
Nothing, and I mean nothing, shocks me coming from this administration.
Let's hope Russell Tice lives through the weekend.
i look forward to my daily shock treatments.
I was sure it was a quarter. Maybe he's having a sale this week?
mer
He's always charged me a quarter. If he's been giving Stunt Woman a discount I'll sue.
Oh, Mr.Litz will be verklempt. Me, I hated that show. I call it the Cocksucka Show. I never got the point of it.
Well the third season is about to start, its the next season that got whacked. So you do have more Cocksuckas to sit through 
Matthews is amazingly coherent today, regarding the CIA:
Matthews and Hitchens once had a thoughtful discussion of the death penalty, and Tweety, typically couldn't quite bring himself to admit how fucked up it was,and Hitchens pointed out that XX percentage of people now opposed it (in the forties, I think it was), and Tweety responded, completely out of his ass, "Well yeah, those are probably the people who think Clinton shouldn't have been impeached."
It is always on his mind.
Dave, that's great! I love you for that!
I tell you, my favorite tee shirt of all time is the Moonbat tee shirt I bought from NYMary at EschaCon.
She did a great job all around!
I will wager that Russell Tice will have an accident or be taking up unknown residence at the NSA'a expense before he actually gets a chance to testify.
Did Tice get an invitation to go quail hunting this weekend?
Well, with any luck, any sort of AI program designed to analyze that crap will probably just throw up
"ohmygawd he was so, like, totally awesome!
"ohmygawd I like, so, totally, get it!"
"ohmygawd it's like so, totally gross!"
"ohmygawd, like, I know!"
"like, yeah!"
/barf
Mrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments; towards the end of each 30-day period it starts to wear off and he starts making sense; then he gets his shots and turns back into the wingnut we know and loathe.
You should see my closet!
I'm betting that door is usually FIRMLY closed, tight.
Koinage
long A, hard G, long E.
Affectionately christened (by who, I've forgotten) "Swamp Thing" during his Katrina coverage.
He's always charged me a quarter. If he's been giving Stunt Woman a discount I'll sue.
I've never been paid to clutch anyone's pearls.
I have been paid to let go of them, however.
Consider that your first warning.
Beyond the tipping point.
Holden Caulfield
I'd hope so...
But folk still ain't literate of things like COINTELPRO.
Granted, this is obviously a more intense, less body-orientated operation, but it...it....*KABOOOM*
Franny is gonna take over for Zap for awhile.
Litz,
I see you know teenagers!
but impeachment seeking is a purely liberal instinct. -- twaty
So you do have more Cocksuckas to sit through
Crap.
I guess I have something to look forward to: no Sopranos OR cocksuckers next year. Woo hoo.
Chris Matthews appears to me to be a human weathervane.
Timmeh sucks up to power.
Matthews dodges with the polls. That makes him a man of the people.
¡I got jour Gato-blogging right here!
Ahhhhh, my very first blogwhore.
(sneeff, sneeff)
¡No! I promised myself that I would no get all weepy-eyed...
¡por favor, joo must excuse me!
(turns face away, runs from room)
so!
Haw! That was Mike Tice. Not to be confused with Mike Tyson. Although Mike Tyson himself is pretty much confusion incarnate, but whatevah . . .
Remember when the committee asked Gonzales about this crap and he was unable to deny that they had actually killed and renditioned (did I make up a word?) Americans as a result?
NTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents.
If you have a Tastee Freeze Frequent Fluffit Card, there's an additional nickel discount.
Remember John Titor.
I see you know teenagers!
I grew up in L.A. Same speech pattern.
The term "cocksucker" kinda goes hand-in-hand with any discussion of Deadwood -- I'm sure no offense was intended. After all, many of us... 
I miss Dead Like Me, too. Have both seasons on DVD, but it was just starting to look like it could get really interesting -- and then it got the boot. They wrapped it up pretty well though, considering. I miss The Old Days -- Six Feet Under, Queer as Folk, all this great stuff to look forward to on Sunday nights.
Ahhhhh, my very first blogwhore.
Joo deed a lovely job, el Gato.
Remember Bush rule #1.
...that's great! I love you for that!
It'a all yours, gratis... put up an Eschacon II Cafe Press site on your never-updated Eschacon blog and charge whatever... I think Walter Neff has contacted you about doing some stuff, hasn't he?
...hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. …
Oh my.
And who would these U.S. citizens be?
Here's what I wonder. The feds went to the phone companies for land lines, it seems. No cell carrier that I've read about has confirmed they participated.
But would the NSA need to talk to them about it at all? Could they log all cell calls (or listen) remotely, and the cell carriers not even know about it?
Grandma knows insane when she sees it.
"But Tice, branded “paranoid” by agency doctors before he was stripped of his security clearance five months ago, making him unemployable by any intelligence agency, was warned by NSA that that he had to first provide the agency and its parent, the Department of Defense, with the information he intended to disclose and the names of people he wanted to talk to."
Perhaps a teenage argot codespeak would serve the Masters of Terrorism well in their cellular conversations. The Navajo would have nothing on 'em...
BUSH: Whatcha' eatin' there Dick?
CHENEY: Red beans and Tice.
BUSH: You mean redbeans and rice, right?
CHENEY: Uh, yeah.
The big battle will be if Tice can testify, and if so in public.
The administration will scream national security, but with Bush losing 7 in 10 people, a teetering Congress and a media that finally has woken up, will that fly?
Remember when the committee asked Gonzales about this crap and he was unable to deny that they had actually killed and renditioned (did I make up a word?) Americans as a result?
ErinPDX
wow..
but impeachment seeking is a purely liberal instinct. -- twaty
jello
You know only repukes can impeach, and only for blow jobs...
"ohmygawd, like, I know!"
"like, yeah!"
/barf
Litz
SQUARE PEGS!
OT: Recently lb0313 very kindly sent me a copy of Chris Rose's collection of post-Katrina columns.
I got the book in the mail today. Reading it is making me cry, and laugh, and cry some more.
If you want to learn a bit more about the human side of what Katrina refugees and those who returned to NOLA have had to deal with, buy his book. It is $13.00 and a portion of the proceeds go to the Tipitina's Foundation, which is helping musicians return to their home, repairing damaged homes and replacing lost instruments, among other things.
The term "cocksucker" kinda goes hand-in-hand with any discussion of Deadwood -- I'm sure no offense was intended. After all, many of us...
That's why I waded through three days of it before saying anything..........
Mrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments;
Just yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"
Complete 180 in 24 hours.
Mrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments;
Just yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"
Complete 180 in 24 hours.
Are trolls too stupid to link to their sources or would that just make it obvious they're full of shit?
Good, el gato negro, kerplunkee to the potty mouth jar.
'renditioned (did I make up a word?)'
it's elf speak.
but impeachment seeking is a purely liberal instinct. -- twaty
jello
That can't be a quote. It just can't be...
The term "cocksucker" kinda goes hand-in-hand with any discussion of Deadwood
Indeed. on the TWOP Deadwood forum, cocksucker and whore are terms of affection, not unlike moonbat here.
Dead man walking!
You should see my closet!
Holden Caulfield
Really, Holden, how many times do we have to reassure you that you don't need to hang out in there? You're safe with us. ntodd notwithstanding.
Cook up a link there, will ya' gramma?
NthDodd,
Did eu see Zaph's "pliedge"?
I miss Six Feet Under, too.
I really didn't think the last season was all that depressing.
Grandma will not tolerate being called a troll by unbridled libs.
None of this would be possible in a nation where people didn't love being lied to.
Loved the end of 6 Feet when everybody ages to the end of their lives.
Me, I've got an 8 year old and a 9 year old, so they watch 'High School Musical' a lot...
"insane" you mean Tice believes that god chose him for his position?
See, in the past, there was nothing like the internets. So if you are some kind of heavy operator in the spook industry or elsewhere in government, you can no longer control the flow of information about things you may want to hide. As long as someone gets the information and gets it on the net, there's no stopping it. It's out there forever, and way to many people will see it to ever keep all inquiry away. Slowly but surely, the post WWII government secrecy cult is going to be undermined, whether they like it or not.
"But Tice, branded “paranoid” by agency doctors before he was stripped of his security clearance five months ago, making him unemployable by any intelligence agency, was warned by NSA that that he had to first provide the agency and its parent, the Department of Defense, with the information he intended to disclose and the names of people he wanted to talk to."
Unfortunately, all those folks have an agenda.
wapo has a new poll:
66% say whatever the unlawful activity is, it's OK.
Wouldn't you know Ntodd would be first to step up to the plate and as a volunteer to boot. Who is next? Simels? Phila? Atta?
"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"
That's such an easy question to answer: NO.
Likewise, it wouldn't be "worth it" to put cameras in everyone's house hooked up the police station to prevent John Wayne Gacy's crimes.
Matthews question is vile and the only appropriate response is to say: "Fuck you, Chris, you fat rich white cocksucking whore. You're an idiot."
http://public.cq.com/public/
2006...1_homeland.html
Grandma will not tolerate being called a troll by unbridled libs.
grandma's own cooking
If the tag fits, you old biddy, wear it.
I'm probably the only person on the planet who liked it, but I really was upset when they cancelled "The Comeback."
"grandma's own trolling"
Where can I buy one of those swear jars?
I do so hope they're full of new and dreamy cuss words.
Be nicceth.
Purrrrrrr....
Second-to-last season of 6FU was pretty bad, though--I got to dislike Nate a lot when he was the dog-walking single dad. Plus, I always liked Brenda.
Grandma knows insane when she sees it.
Looking at mirrors again, eh?
Are you telling me that Rove has had all those phone records, and hasn't looked up the logs on Seymore Hersh?
Why would Bush spend any time tracking down terrorists? Unless there's a clear and immediate political benefit, I don't see the motivation. There solution for everything is A) Give Bush more power B) Give more money to my contributors.
NSA doesn't do nearly as much for tracking down terrorists as it does leakers, journalists and Democrats.
"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"
Funnily enough, they say it WAS in place in 2001 and no, it hasn't prevented jack shit.
And who would these U.S. citizens be?
pie
The 10 million murkin taliban.
wapo has a new poll:
66% say whatever the unlawful activity is, it's OK.
Discredited already.
Anyway, they wouldn't have needed this program in 2001, Bush got a PDB titled "Osama Determined To Strike Inside U.S." and basically did nothing since he was on vacation and couldn't be bothered.
"Now watch this drive."
SQUARE PEGS!
A fine, fine program.
Grandma will not tolerate being called a troll by unbridled libs.
grandma's own cooking
Bob Dole will not have trolls infringing on Bob Dole's trademarked use of referring to himself in the third person.
Cease and deexist.
Indeed. on the TWOP Deadwood forum, cocksucker and whore are terms of affection, not unlike moonbat here.
That's so sweet. For some of us, it has a lot of real-world baggage. Call folks nigger a lot, do you? I asked nicely.
NSA doesn't do nearly as much for tracking down terrorists as it does leakers, journalists and Democrats.
Memekiller
they should release the numbers and when they are shown to be DNC headquarters...
Plus, I always liked Brenda.
except for that Billy thing she had going. That was creepy.
Grandma seems to have wandered away from the Active Living Assistance wing.
And what evidence do we have that Tice is "insane?" Your say-so? You do know that's the oldest smear trick in the book, don't you?
wapo has a new poll:
66% say whatever the unlawful activity is, it's OK.
hadenough
They are asking the wrong question.
Let's try: "How do you feel about Karl Rove being able to use the NSA wiretap information against Democrats?"
That's the angle I'm not hearing. Hey, the guy knows who's a NOC and who's not in the CIA, so I'm sure he can access this NSA info also. I'll come in real handy for disrupting Democratic local caucuses and primaries.
Thanks for th elink, gramma.
As CQ reported on April 15, Mark Klein, a retired AT&T worker, gave a sworn statement that he saw NSA technicians set up a room at the company’s San Francisco switching station to tap into the phone calls and e-mail traffic carried by the telecommunication giant.
""If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?""
If we had a program in place that was sanctioned by law, with protections, limitations on retention of data, defined procedures and accountabilities?
You mean that kind of program? Not including the fact that the people who put it into motion are supposed to not be idealogical nut cases with rampant desires of totalitarian conquest.
A fine, fine program.
NYMary
I concur
Plus, I always liked Brenda.
Eh, I liked her better when she was the fucked up sex addict than the Caitlin Flanagan-wannabe mom.
Apropos of nothing, did I mention that I quit smoking cigarettes* while simultaneously going away for summer school and moving into my crappy student apartment and being alone way to much, and my medal must have gotten lost in the mail?
*mostly. I've been smoking one per day. and I have a certifiable need for a coupla drinks tonight, so all bets are off until tomorrow. But still.
Would you like a tissue, El Gato? Or should I just lick your tears off as your mama would have done?
Could y'all ease up on the "Cocksucker' stuff?
No offence to suckers of cock intended by any means. As others have mentioned you can't talk Deadwood without mentioning c_________s.
wapo has a new poll:
Dismantled that one hours ago.
The NSA is under the eye of the DoD?
I thought it was a presidential task force?
But if there where bad witches with armies of flyling monkies, then wouldn't everybody want a wizard to protet them, whether or no he was really just a little man behind a curtain.
I tell ya I wish I had those sparkly red pumps to carry me back home safe and sound. I wouldn't wear'em with the blue gingham dress though, that color makes my hair look too yellow, and the interent kooks will all start calling me Tweety again, but I do like a nice full skirt to hide my...what...oh shit..those are on...?
We'll be right back with Peggy Noonan and Charles Krauthammer to discuss whether or not Al Gore is off his meds.
{{Bwaha bwaha bwaha}}
here is insane granny
(pimped from mediamatters)
BECK: Blowing up Iran. I say we nuke the bastards. In fact, it doesn't have to be Iran, it can be everywhere, anyplace that disagrees with me. Hang on just a second, is there any more [former "American Idol" contestant] Clay Aiken? Maybe we should just listen to them. We should listen to -- we should listen to the president of Iran. We should listen to President Tom [Beck's nickname for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]. And say what, what, what do you want? How can we be friends? Why can't we just all get along? Who was your favorite on American Idol, President Tom?
All these former Bushies need to get together for a giant press conference/photo op and go on the record now, not just dribble out their complaints. They need to scream from the steps of the Capitol.
Sucks when your source disproves your point, don't it gramms?
Nobody's been covering this, so what the hell. The Yes Men punked Halliburton.
Second-to-last season of 6FU was pretty bad, though...
Yeah, I esp. disliked that final episode revelation regarding who killed Nate's wife. Talk about out of the blue!
Season 5 was a big improvement. Nate's death scene = greatest TV death scene EVER!
Grandma knows insane when she sees it.
Guess how.
It didn't prevent 9/11 Chris, so it's a totally bgus question.
'You're safe with us. ntodd notwithstanding.
Virginia, grizzled'
He's safe while he's not yeswithstanding.
"grandma" shouldn't you be setting the table? Cletus should be getting home from reform school any minute.
You're welcome little Holden. Now go and be a good boy and don't play with those hookers anymore.
"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"
I don't recall ever reading in the papers of the Founders of some absolute, non-negotiable choice between rights and safety. It's a balance, a matter of acceptable compromise, an art which has been smashed to death in the past half-decade.
Plus, I always liked Brenda.
NYMary
Me too. Ditto on Square Pegs.
Eh, I liked her better when she was the fucked up sex addict
That goes without saying.
Grandma knows insane when she sees it.
Guess how.
Virginia, grizzled | 05.12.06 - 5:34 pm | #
I can't decide if my grandma is insane or just a lush.
Maybe both?
That can't be a quote. It just can't be...
DemByDefault
here you go, from thursday's show:
MATTHEWS: John, do you think that the president is going to pull this thing with Karl Rove? according to the online column in “Newsweek” by Howard Fineman, I read it late last night, he says if these numbers continue to go south on the president, they‘ve got a doomsday plan which is to just scare the heck out of people about the Democrats, about impeachment, investigations, all kinds of left-wing behavior.
Eh, I liked her better when she was the fucked up sex addict than the Caitlin Flanagan-wannabe mom.
Yep. There was that great moment when he figured out what was going on and said "Who the hell are you?" and she answered "I'm the woman who fucked you in a closet two hours after we met without knowing your name."
Busted, Nate. Totally busted.
Plus, I always liked Brenda.
They made their most interesting character more boring as the show went on, I thought
NSA doesn't do nearly as much for tracking down terrorists as it does leakers, journalists and Democrats.
See, who says our spooks can learn?
This is old tricky dick stuff.
Shocked, but most likely, not surprised.
He's safe while he's not yeswithstanding.
Ruth
You made me LOL.
this is also an example of insane
( I apolgize but it's too good)
Drudge says: "SOURCES: BUSH PLANS NATIONAL GUARD ON BORDER"
All I gotta say is..
It's about time!
As long as he doesn't propose amnesty too, this should be a magic bullet that will send his job approval up to 45% by June.
Gary
I miss Six Feet Under, too.
I really didn't think the last season was all that depressing.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:28 pm | #
Best. Finale. Ever.
Maybe both?
VV, ready for anything
Maybe one as a result of the other. Chicken, or egg?
Maybe both?
VV, ready for anything
most of the lush's i know are a little meshughanah
It's a mad mad world, and you can't really blame Tice for going a little under now can ya?
I'm half ways to batshit crazy myself sometimes, that is until I fire up some grits and browns and get my coffee up.
Ummm. with 29% approval ratings I am not sure that scaring people about impeaching the bastard is that good of a strategy.
Seems to me that this is what people WANT.
Yep. There was that great moment when he figured out what was going on and said "Who the hell are you?" and she answered "I'm the woman who fucked you in a closet two hours after we met without knowing your name."
That was such a great scene. I liked the whole "See Emily Play" vibe of early Brenda.
Call folks nigger a lot, do you? I asked nicely.
and I was offering an explanation, not persisting. Kindly back away from the vehicle.
most of the lush's i know are a little meshughanah
olexicon,Sir Humpty | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:37 pm | #
My grandma is fond of wine in a box.
thanks jello, I'm copying that for my email.
Who do you thiink reads Tweety's emails?
I am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.
' he saw NSA technicians set up a room at the company’s San Francisco switching station to tap into the phone calls and e-mail traffic '
gotta stop gay marriages before the Rapture.
And what evidence does Twatty Tweety offer to support his tacit claim that whatever the NSA is doing now would have stopped 9/11? That is meaningless, garbage rhetoric. It's entirely hypothetical to claim it would stop a similar attack now, for pete's sakes. Much less one that happened!
You do know that's the oldest smear trick in the book, don't you?
grandma's senile.
Mrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments; towards the end of each 30-day period it starts to wear off and he starts making sense; then he gets his shots and turns back into the wingnut we know and loathe.
Gummo
Best explanation I've heard so far.
'I am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out'
Careful reading at the description of the poll will show you it was taken Thursday.
"I'm the woman who fucked you in a closet two hours after we met without knowing your name."
Eli, are you fantasizing again???
My grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything
I once spent an afternoon in University driunking Wine from a Box in a coffee mug and listeneing to sinatra, there were other people there,however
lmakes it less lushy
I am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out
Wait 'til you tell them bank records are next. Then pause, then tell them it's already happening.
So, Tweety, Bush should get credit now for having a spying program that nobody can say would have stopped 9/11, and nobody can say will stop any future attacks, either? How's that, again?
Since when is calling for impeachment "left wing behavior"? Don't tell Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde.
I don't recall ever reading in the papers of the Founders of some absolute, non-negotiable choice between rights and safety.
That's right.
Matthews' vile question is just script-reciting on behalf of the fundies because (they never cease to claim) each human life is "priceless."
It's a total pile of crap, of course. Always has been.
I am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government. -Sallyh
Sallyh - the merest glance at their sample size, methodology and wording of questions will reassure you.
Just yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"
I so wanted to bitchslap my tv while that was on. In what universe could that have POSSIBLY happened? Surely not the one where those same people didn't think "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US" was important enough to, y'know, read.
let the discovery begin!
excellent.
Ruth--true. But it may take a bit of time to sync up disapproval of Chimpy and disapproval of illegal activities, which is important.
My grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything
So is Stephanie Miller.
My grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything
So is Stephanie Miller.
""If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?""
or if we had a competent national security advisor who took the warnings seriously;
or if we had a vice president who had convened any meeting of his national security team in the 9 months preceeding the wtc attacks;
or if the fbi had taken the threat analysis of its local agents seriously;
or ... well, you get the idea. there were many other alternatives that negate the need to spy on americans. not to mention that the datamining being done now is more useful after the fact, and highly unlikely to be useful in preventing a terrorist attack.
I'm probably the only person on the planet who liked it, but I really was upset when they cancelled "The Comeback."
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:29 pm | #
Oh, I loved 'The Comeback.' Talented but rather desperate woman squeezed out by network idiots. Too good to last, I guess.
And what evidence does Twatty Tweety offer to support his tacit claim that whatever the NSA is doing now would have stopped 9/11? That is meaningless, garbage rhetoric. It's entirely hypothetical to claim it would stop a similar attack now, for pete's sakes. Much less one that happened!
Exactly So!
I'm half ways to batshit crazy myself sometimes, that is until I fire up some grits and browns and get my coffee up.
grandma's own cooking
Funny (ymmv) thing about that. I have been drinking a pot of espresso every morning. The last few days I've been going back to bed and sleeping like a log for an hour or two after coffee -- unprecedented.
I think I bought decaf espresso by mistake. I'm lucky I'm not in a coma.
Sallyh, I think the question was framed poorly. If the question had been:
Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?
Might have had a different percentage, you know?
JeffCO--you're right. I just peeked.
Talk about lame.
That'd fail my intro class.
I miss Six Feet Under, too.
I really didn't think the last season was all that depressing.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:28 pm | #
Best. Finale. Ever.
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:37 pm | #
Agreed on both counts. TV viewers need more tolerance for honest real life darkness/sadness/difficulty.
I once spent an afternoon in University driunking Wine from a Box in a coffee mug and listeneing to sinatra, there were other people there,however
lmakes it less lushy
olexicon,Sir Humpty | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:39 pm | #
That sounds delightful, actually.
I miss college. Thinking of going back, actually . . .
I loved "Oh, Madeleine!' with M.Kahn. Talk about your brief runs!
Maybe Tice is a nice man, we should give him the benefit of the doubt.
I am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out
If the questions were asked over the phone wouldn't that fundamentally undermine the honesty of the answers? It's just so creepy. Even if right now, we're only being told it's just call data - who calls whom - so many must suspect there's more. Lots more.
Sallyh, I think the question was framed poorly. If the question had been:
Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?
ecks-fucking-zactly, can we commission a poll? I'll chip in, with Zogby or somebody?
Sallyh, I think the question was framed poorly. If the question had been:
Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?
ecks-fucking-zactly, can we commission a poll? I'll chip in, with Zogby or somebody?
You know, this "Frist" bs is getting old.
Oh, I loved 'The Comeback.' Talented but rather desperate woman squeezed out by network idiots. Too good to last, I guess.
PSR
Holy shit I thought I was the only one!
I thought there was a lot of satirical stuff going on there related to pop culture.
Mr. Litz hated it though. But then, he likes Deadwood.
Sallyh - the merest glance at their sample size, methodology and wording of questions will reassure you.
JeffCO
and the fact that the story broke as people were off to work and the poll was taken last nite. hardly enough time for the respondents to be informed of the particulars.
Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?
Might have had a different percentage, you know?
DWD
I can make it easier than that:
"Are you comfortable knowing the government has this information but not knowing who they are letting look at it?"
Headline of the Day:
Christian Virgins Are Overrated
Over a Morford column, natch...
Oh, and that hightly-touted Conference Board's consumer confidence bullshit just took a hit:
The University of Michigan consumer sentiment index fell to 79.0 in May -- it's the lowest level since October's 74.2 reading -- from 87.4 in April. Economists expected a much smaller decline to about 86.4, according to a survey conducted by MarketWatch.
"We think this drop reflects the sudden surge in gas prices," said Ian Shepherdson, chief U.S. economist for High Frequency Economics. "If sentiment stays at this level -- it might even decline further -- you should expect a serious slowing" in consumption.
Not me, Daddy - I expected it. I think there are all kinds of things going on that once the air hits them they will smell so bad that Mr. Bush is going to run away run away...
Let's hope this guy doesn't have some kind of car accident comeing up here. Stay alive, man.
Bushco is very good at branding their critics as insane or unbalanced. They learned it from Krauthammer, who was only self-diagnosing. Bush has dismantled most of the apparatus needed to defend us against terrorism, including the CIA and the NSA, as well as his now-famous apppointments of those most like him (incompetent boobs) to run FEMA and other once-important lifesaving agencies. Nobody hates like a Bush family member, especially the sociopathic failure that has stolen the White House and used his power against American citizens far more effectively than against non-domestic enemies. We have a president that hates Americans unless they are rich and white and suck him off publicly. Grandma is just an idiotic sychophant without an original thought, full of the fear that Bush has created by his own incompetence.
I'm probably the only person on the planet who liked it, but I really was upset when they cancelled "The Comeback."
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:29 pm | #
Oh, I loved 'The Comeback.' Talented but rather desperate woman squeezed out by network idiots. Too good to last, I guess.
PSR
I liked it a lot, too. It made me uncomfortable, and in general I think that happens with things that authentic in some way. Plus I think she's pretty damned good.
I so wanted to bitchslap my tv while that was on. In what universe could that have POSSIBLY happened? Surely not the one where those same people didn't think "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US" was important enough to, y'know, read.
And I'm sorry to say all of you guys have better responses than the one Ben Veniste garbled out. He was totally mealy mouthed.
I so wanted to bitchslap my tv while that was on. In what universe could that have POSSIBLY happened? Surely not the one where those same people didn't think "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US" was important enough to, y'know, read.
And I'm sorry to say all of you guys have better responses than the one Ben Veniste garbled out. He was totally mealy mouthed.
Even if right now, we're only being told it's just call data - who calls whom - so many must suspect there's more.
Using traffic, and social networking analysis software, you can do a lot with just that.
Mr. Litz hated it though. But then, he likes Deadwood.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:42 pm | #
I love, love love LOVE Big Love.
Beyond good TV. It's pretty much all I watch anymore.
Mr. Litz hated it though. But then, he likes Deadwood.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:42 pm | #
I love, love love LOVE Big Love.
Beyond good TV. It's pretty much all I watch anymore.
Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?
The base will simply retort, "Well, if you don't have anything to hide, what's the problem?"
"Oh, I loved 'The Comeback.'"
Holy shit I thought I was the only one!
Nah, I got a kick out of it, too.
I also like "Entourage" - can't wait for "Aquaman" to open!
Has anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?
Never again. 
i wonder if any of us would be shocked if we found out the NSA was spying on us?
in the past i've expressed this, and some have poo pooed that notion. why would they care about us?
but bush is a mean, petty, vindictive bastard, and i'm sure he does not take kindly to being called a war criminal, and a fuckwit hundreds of times daily.
if i had to bet money i'd say all the communications here are catalougued. why not, i have some of them on my own hard drive.
My grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything
I once spent an afternoon in University driunking Wine from a Box in a coffee mug and listeneing to sinatra, there were other people there,however
lmakes it less lushy
olexicon,Sir Humpt
'
Ah, nostalgia!
Do these Dubya attaboy pundits ever realize what we had to pay in blood and treasure to get us to the point where wholesale pilfering through telephone records is not cool?
Oh, but Dusty Foggo's buddies would never sell that valuable information to insurance companies, or the like.
That'd fail my intro class. -Sallyh
Exactly - they didn't even include the standard question asking how familiar the respondent was with the topic. They gave them forced choice false dichotomies and the only information they provided were WH claims of what's being done. Plus a sample size less than half of what's normally done. No legitimate excuse for publishing it.
A friend of mine is considering having an affair.
If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11...
But that's what I keep saying! We didn't NEED it! We already had FBI agents warning about known terriss learning to fly planes but not land them, and PDB's saying Osama wanted to strike in the U.S. and all sorts of other stuff!
BushCo doesn't give a shit about protecting Merkins. They want to grab more power, plain and simple.
Using traffic, and social networking analysis software, you can do a lot with just that.
Doug
Sadly, No! had a good post about "Enemyster."
Fresh Loud Obbs:
QUICKVOTE
Do you support using the United States military to secure U.S. borders?
Yes
No
The Bush answer for everything.
Hahaha.
Mr. Litz on the news that Deadwood has been cancelled:
"That sucks. Maybe something new and profane and ultra-violent will come along."
So will we ever find out the details of these "programs"?
Just yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"
Didn't the program allegedly start BEFORE 9/11? I seem to recall reading that...
CongressDaily reports that former NSA staffer Russell Tice will testify to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week ...
If he lives that long.
I love, love love LOVE Big Love.
My wife likes it. I'm glad to see Bruce Dern working.
But I don't see how they can keep it going, story-wise, much beyond two seasons.
'You made me LOL.
Virginia, grizzled'
i confess to conscionable behavior.
Sallyh, it took forever for Nixon finally to be detested, dispised and dethroned, but it finally happened.
Oh, heck, gotta run off now.
Joe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!
Has anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?
Never again.
A friend of mine told me how she went to visit her mother shortly after Mother's Day and saw some awful looking flowers. She asked, "What are those?" And her mom said, "Those are the flowers that you send me every year."
That was the end of that practice.
Jenny--Proflowers is excellent.
Doug -
I know that call info can tell a lot. I've seen it used in law enforcement - it's a very powerful tool for breaking up organized crime. Unfortunately, it can also be used to crack down on other organiziations (Democrats, quakers, random dissidents) and if the gov't doesn't care about the 4th amemdnment controls, it's utterly totalarian.
VV,
I am also a huge fan of Big Love, which has Thers a mite concerned.
Joe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!
catalexis
so he;s saying run like you always have even though people are sarting to hate it
Never again.
Jenny from the Blog
You know who is great? Calyx and Corolla. Gorgeous stuff delivered in perfect condition when promised. A little pricey, but worth every dime.
You know, this "Frist" bs is getting old.
Best of luck ridding us of the Worst Scourge Ever To Face Humanity. Lemme know how your War on Prostituion works out, too.
VV,
I am also a huge fan of Big Love, which has Thers a mite concerned.
NYMary |
O me too. I love that show. I just love it.
I am sick and tired of lazy trolls who won't even bother to deny the criminal behavior of their cult leaders. We already know everyone not in their cult is insane or liars - why won't they tell us something new?
"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11...
"Prevented 9/11! Hell, they had nine months of warning, what the hell makes you think THIS would have made any difference?"
Easy answer. Yet somehow Tweety never faces anybody with even that much sense.
I'm watching "Nixon". If Baby Bush's administration is twice as corrupt as Nixon's was, we're in for some hellacious impeachment hearings.
My grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything
Whine in a box? She likes Chris Matthews?
BTW, for all of you "Deadwood" fans mourning its apparent cancellationa after this season, I have three words for you:
"Deadwood: the Movie."
dave--go to www.glackware.com
They have a "Abstinence is for Virgins" T shirt.
I got my granddaughter the "Dingo Snack!" one.
Sick, but funny.
A friend of mine is considering having an affair.
If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse | 05.12.06 - 5:45 pm | #
Just say no is all I got on that. I've no tolerance for cheating.
NYMary (if you're still here)
How are your children?
You know who is great? Calyx and Corolla. Gorgeous stuff delivered in perfect condition when promised. A little pricey, but worth every dime.
Virginia, grizzled | 05.12.06 - 5
I get their catalogs - you aren't kidding. Those are the most gorgeous flower arrangements I've ever seen. They are pricey, but Wow!
I also like "Entourage" - can't wait for "Aquaman" to open!
Yeah, I like it OK. I think Adrian Grenier is teh hot.
I love, love love LOVE Big Love.
VV, I started watching it 'cuz of nothing-else-on syndrome. Kept watching it because I hated the whole premise and wanted to keep watching these people suffer.
Now I am having sympathy for Barb, Wife #1. And Bill Paxton always knocks me out -- even when I don't like the character he's playing.
They have a "Abstinence is for Virgins" T shirt.
That's right up there with "Rehab is for quitters."
"the War oN mother's daY"
Satellites, huh?
I wonder if they saw me do that thing to that person that time.
Has anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?
Never again.
Jenny from the Blog
Okay, need a new strategy quick.....
Tena and VV,
Aparently, we haven't even begun to see the nastiness of Nicki.
And how long until Ben sleeps with Marjean?
I'm watching "Nixon". If Baby Bush's administration is twice as corrupt as Nixon's was, we're in for some hellacious impeachment hearings.
Monica_A: Bon Vivant
My fellow Americans,
We are at war. During war time, intelligence gathering is a necessary and important part of my Article II powers. That is why I have sent a crack team of operatives into the Wategate Hotel to bug the offices of the enemy, the Democratic party.
VV,
I am also a huge fan of Big Love, which has Thers a mite concerned.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:47 pm | #
My sis looks a bit like Chloe Sevigny . . .
But I would probably sell an ovary to have Jean Tripplehorne's hair. Lovely.
I got my granddaughter the "Dingo Snack!" one.
Have you seen the "They Shake Me" shirt? I was going to get it for my son, but Mr. Monica objected.
And Bill Paxton always knocks me out
He had me at "Aliens".
"GAME OVER, MAN!"
I love, love love LOVE Big Love.
Ditto.
Joe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!
Hence Monday night's speech.
I'm watching "Nixon". If Baby Bush's administration is twice as corrupt as Nixon's was, we're in for some hellacious impeachment hearings.
Monica_A: Bon Vivant
Nixon didn't have 9/11 to back him up. We may be too much a nation of bedwetters these days for Bush to have to face the music.
RIP not only irony, but the quaint Ye Olde Searche Warrante.
I actually heard an apologist on radio today say, "No worries! It's only the numbers. Not the names"
First off. That's a damn shitty way to ID terrorists, if you don't even bother to figure out who the phone number is connected to.
Secondly. It's the same level of galling stupidity as someone claiming it's only the Social Security numbers. We don't deal in names.
How much of this nonsense are we going to take?
DembyDefault -- Quick! To the pajamagram or Vermont Teddy Bears site!
If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse
Don't fall in love!
And I'm sorry to say all of you guys have better responses than the one Ben Veniste garbled out. He was totally mealy mouthed.
Neponset
and that is why he, deedee myers and bob shrum are repeatedly booked to represent the democratic side.
And how long until Ben sleeps with Marjean?
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:50 pm | #
Heh. I was wondering about that. I don't think it will ever really happen but I like how they use him to show just how young Marji really is.
Has anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking
organicbouquets.com
He had me at "Aliens".
"GAME OVER, MAN!"
watertiger | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:50 pm | #
"We're on an express elevator to hell... going down!"
Wayne Madsen was reporting on a NSA employee stripped of clearance and forced into psychiatric examination because of refusing to go along with spying programs.
Madsen also reported during the Bolton hearings that Hayden was using satellites to spy on American citizens, claiming NSA was conducting training exercises, but then passing the conversations and other electronic communications along . . .
.
republicans:
Defiant Ney gets ovation from fellow Republicans
House Republicans gave Rep. Bob Ney (R-Ohio) a standing ovation after he told them yesterday that he has no plans to resign and will vigorously fend off a likely federal indictment.
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/e...1106/
news2.html
This is too funny:
“Dead man walking,” one Republican lawmaker said afterward.
sallyh,
Proflowers also support Air America.
Not trhat I'm going to get multiple mortgages or use ProActive zit cream based on this, but still.
So will we ever find out the details of these "programs"?
Halfdan
From the link I posted:
...Afran said that he and Mayer will also ask for documents dealing with the origination of the program and President Bush's role in the program.
in other words, no.
And Bill Paxton always knocks me out
He had me at "Aliens".
"GAME OVER, MAN!"
Hopefully that will be the NeoCon line next week.
I wonder if they saw me do that thing to that person that time.
I hope I can get video of that.
Don't fall in love!
swampy mcfeverish | 05.12.06 - 5:51 pm | #
Would that it were so easy to command our feelings, no?
OK... "glackware.com" just takes me to a parking site. Try again?
And what evidence does Twatty Tweety offer to support his tacit claim that whatever the NSA is doing now would have stopped 9/11?
If Bushco didn't cancel the active FBI investigations into terrorism that were going on (the FBI were looking at very suspicious financial transactions of certain rich Saudis, as I recall) and the powers that be actually used the LEGAL powers that were already had available to them, then one could say the same thing- 9/11 would have been stopped. They were aware of who many of the bad guys were. They just didn't do anything to stop them.
I love Big Love, too. Hubby seems to like it, too, but he's an honorary lesbian so you can't go by him.
My baby's momma is an LMT and very much into essential oils. As I was trolling last night, I vaguely recall her saying she wanted something that smelled good for Mother's Day.
Any suggestions, seriously, I'm at a loss.
I can only mix so many Mother's Day CD's and get away with it.
scout is also a Big Love fan.
Wayne Madsen was reporting on a NSA employee stripped of clearance and forced into psychiatric examination because of refusing to go along with spying programs.
What happened to our country?
If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
Constant worry over being busted? Disease issues? Expensive divorces?
"We're on an express elevator to hell... going down!"
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:51 pm | #
I liked on Family Guy when Stewie went into the whole "Game Over Man" schpeil.
Classic.
Joe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!
Not if you are a Democrat.
A friend of mine is considering having an affair.
If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse
It's never worth it unless the person really is looking for an excuse to end their marriage. Even then, it is terribly unfair to at least one person out of the 3, and it usually hurts all 3.
O me too. I love that show. I just love it.
Tena
It basically is nothing more than a soap.
(I love it)
He had me at "Aliens". "GAME OVER, MAN!" watertiger
He didn't win you over with his star turn as Chet in Weird Science?
Cheating is nobody's business but the cheaters'.
I love Big Love, too. Hubby seems to like it, too, but he's an honorary lesbian so you can't go by him.
Virginia, grizzled | 05.12.06 - 5:52 pm | #
For a while there, I was calling it the "Bill Paxton's Naked Ass" show.
But dang, for however old BP must be by now, he has an award-winning ass.
I'm with ror. That's the ultimate in selfishness.
I'm with ror. That's the ultimate in selfishness.
Has anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?
What I've found is the best way to do it is to go directly through a local flowershop. They always have really talented people who are just dying to get the chance to do something creative and fun. Just give them vague instructions and your price range. It's a winner every time.
I hope I can get video of that.
Check with Negroponte.
Wow, just fucking rain already! My head can't take the pressure no more!
Bush wanted to protect America with a Missile Shield before 9/11.
Now he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.
If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse
Watch that scene in Unfaithful when she compares it to taking a pottery class and her friend corrects her, pretty emphatically.
Any suggestions, seriously, I'm at a loss.
French lavender.
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Would that it were so easy to command our feelings, no?
You can have the Emotion Chip removed from your Positronic Brain.
"' -- you should expect a serious slowing" in consumption.'"
--pie
We certainly have cut back, and we don't even have much debt.
It basically is nothing more than a soap.
(I love it)
ql in ny | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:53 pm | #
Me too- It's my mormon soap.
If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
Too much work.
A friend of mine is considering having an affair
Your friend has already made their first mistake.
If two people know a secret, that is one too many.
Not trhat I'm going to get multiple mortgages or use ProActive zit cream based on this, but still.
NYMary
Sometimes I'm afraid that Wendi Friesen is going to *get* me.
Just say no is all I got on that. I've no tolerance for cheating.
rorschach
I'm a one woman man and am only interested in love but it wasn't always that way - there was a time in my life when my hormones got the better of me (and a few others I might add)
Now he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.
cheney_usa
Does this mean the brain cloud didn't work?
.
I'm thinking we should encourage the debate on the facist thinking that is doing the frog boil thing. Hey, I got it let's let cops be cops, you have nothing to hide right? The police should just do a full house by house room by room through the whole country till we get those bad guys! RFID chips for everybody! You have nothing to hide right? What do you mean too far? Why do you hate America?
The hemming and hawing would be hilarious!
Wayne Madsen was reporting on a NSA employee stripped of clearance and forced into psychiatric examination because of refusing to go along with spying programs.
I'm seriously considering sending copies of 1984 to some folks in gov't with key passages highlighted for them.
Has anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?
1-800-Flowers has always given me good service.
"When they look at you, they see what they want to be. When they look at me, they see what they are."
Great line! I actually feel sympathy for Nixon. It's probably Sir Anthony's portrayal.
But dang, for however old BP must be by now, he has an award-winning ass.
hey, ease up. he's only 50. That's the new 30, apparently.
It's not like he's Michael Douglas.
What I've found is the best way to do it is to go directly through a local flowershop. They always have really talented people who are just dying to get the chance to do something creative and fun. Just give them vague instructions and your price range. It's a winner every time.
I was just gonna say that... so let me reiterate it.
Ditto!
Jenny from the Blog, after having some bad luck with online or national florist services, we started calling local florists. We were able to get first-hand info, and it felt like more of a personal touch.
For our daughter's grad school graduation, I called Winston Flowers in Boston for an arrangement to be sent before we got there. They were incredible.
All Your Phone Records Are Belong To Us.
Now he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.
The "cone of silence" from "Get Smart" is what they rate.
It basically is nothing more than a soap.
(I love it)
Oh absolutely. To be fair, most series are, but some are more so than others and that one definitely is. But I cannot stop watching it - it is compelling.
That and Entourage - I love that damn show so much. There are HBOs shows I can live without, but it hurts me terribly to lose Deadwood, and losing Entourage would just kill me.
Verizon being sued for $5 billion over NSA.
French lavender.
Anything by L'Occitane.
Um...where are you again?
It's never worth it unless the person really is looking for an excuse to end their marriage. Even then, it is terribly unfair to at least one person out of the 3, and it usually hurts all 3.
Tena | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:53 pm | #
God, that's so sad.
My grandfather cheated on my grandmother (my dad's parents- this isn't box wine grandma, this is jilted fundamentalist tightwad grandma).
They got a divorce in 1965. Not a great year to be divorced in middle America.
But then, the issue was not really the infidelity- the infidelity was caused by my grandmother's depression, which caused her to choose celibacy in her marriage, which caused grandfather warren to screw around.
Sad sad sad. But at least today maybe they could have gotten some counseling . . .
Infidelity, if you ask me, is a symptom.
Then of course, there's Julia Roberts' Love is Nice:
Homer: "Hey, don't blame me, this movie is tired and predictable. You know she's going to wind up marrying Richard Gere." (audience gasps in surprise)
Dr. Hibbert: "I thought she was going to wind up with that rich snob."
McAllister: "Ably played by Bill Paxton."
Homer: "That's Bill *Pullman*, you fool!"
NYMary,
Really! How are the kids?
French lavender.
.
Grand Moff Texan
I'm interested. Please tell me more. Worst. Present. Buyer. Ever.
I was just gonna say that... so let me reiterate it.
I did, and so I did.
Too much work.
Heh. That's what Thers says.
Tena's right; an affair is only worth it if you're out the door anyway. Otherwise, it's just hurting someone more than you need to for your own sanity.
in other words, no.
Thanks.
OT: What I've been waiting for: Helen Thomas vs. Tony Snow Round 1.
When Helen Thomas asked what he'd do to make President bush more "credible," he replied curtly, "I'm not going to answer questions about credibility."
I'm a one woman man and am only interested in love but it wasn't always that way - there was a time in my life when my hormones got the better of me (and a few others I might add)
swampy mcfeverish
O me too - and many more times than a few and that's how I know it isn't conducive to good marriages when one of you is dating, too.
Let's hope the guv'ment is more competent at keeping this guy alive until he testifies than they have been in the rest of the war on terror, or Irag, or Afghanistan, or Al-Queda (you pick).
The Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.
Defiant Ney gets ovation from fellow Republicans
House Republicans gave Rep. Bob Ney (R-Ohio) a standing ovation after he told them yesterday that he has no plans to resign and will vigorously fend off a likely federal indictment.
Normally, I admire moxie; this time, not so much.
You know who is great? Calyx and Corolla.
That's true, I used to order stuff from them all the time.
Keep in mind when you are ordering flowers, however, that a lot if not most flowers are grown and harvested in Third World countries where the workers are mostly women and they suffer under really inhumane working conditions. Plus, a lot of these big operations use all sorts of environmentally damaging chemicals that have been illegal here for years.
Hate to be a buzzkill, just sayin' ...
Cheating is nobody's business but the cheaters'.
ronjazz | 05.12.06 - 5:53 pm | #
Um, and the one who's being cheated on, yes?
hey, ease up. he's only 50. That's the new 30, apparently.
It's not like he's Michael Douglas.
watertiger | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:56 pm | #
He's 50, Marjean is 25.
Holy cow.
The Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.
They'll use it as a perk, soft duty, the way German soldiers were offered the camps. If they objected, it was off to the Russian front. Now, of course, we have the revolving, never-ending Middle East Wars.
Verizon being sued for $5 billion over NSA.
That explains the call left on our answering machine offering this great new deal.
We have Vonage, but many of us, including the immediate family, have Verizon for cells, which we decided to do for the free-calling option.
Flip-side, loves. IT'S FRRRIIIIIIIDAY NIGHT!
That and Entourage - I love that damn show so much.
We discontinued HBO when our local cable co. required a digital gizmo on every TV in the house on which you wanted to watch it. For a small fee. My wife and I agreed we'd get the Sopranos, 6FU, Entourage, and Curb Your Enthusiasm seasonal DVD's.
We haven't yet. It's been 2 years.
Would that it were so easy to command our feelings, no?
VV, ready for anything
Yeah. It'd be nice if as you got older you had more control o=ver them - I have more control over myself but not my emotions - they still rage like when I was 17 -
Thanks, all. I had a bad feeling about it, but their whole schtick is their network of local florists. I figured how hard would it be to deliver a dozen roses to my mom? Lots of florists in Boca Raton, for cryin' out loud. Or West Palm Beach, or wherever.
They shipped the flowers fed-ex from memphis to gainesville to ft. lauderdale back to gainesville and they're still sitting on a truck somewhere.
What a joke. They will arrive dead or nearly dead. I'm asking for my money back. Cripes, I could have called a local florist myself, for crying out loud.
I miss Clinton so much!
The Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border.
In that case can someone explain to me why Hispanic radio hosts in L.A. are encouraging their listeners to name their children after him?
Verizon being sued for $5 billion over NSA.
Bust 'em down to a single phone booth in Provo, Utah!
NSA Whistleblower To Expose More Unlawful Activity: ‘People…Are Going To Be Shocked’
What would rate as "shocking"? If it turns out Bushco was using the information they were getting to spy on political opponents and reporters.
I personally wouldn't be surprised, but that certainly would be an atomic bomb as far as scandals go.
NYMary,
Did I anger you in some way? I swear I haven't flirted with Thers.
There's a major difference between having control over one's feelings and one's behavior. Just sayin'.
Infidelity, if you ask me, is a symptom.
VV, ready for anything
Her first sights were set on me..., me? Says alot. Anyway, once she realized how much I dig Wife #1 the most, she backed off.
Problem is, her husband is teh awesome. Great friend, father and husband as far as I know.
The whole situation sucks. I generally dislike people and their dramas. Secretly I want her to get caught...thinking about planting a few Milwaukee's Best in their fridge the next time the husband is out of town, watch the sparks fly and laugh.
I had to keep Halfhalfdan home from school today, so we made Mama a Mother's Day card using the color printer and some construction paper. For an actual present, hmmm. Haven't thought that far ahead. There's a bottle of champagne in the fridge.
(Actually, I made the card and she ate the glue. Fun anyhow.)
thanks for the therapy bats - gonna' go cook supper and try to be funny tonight - wish me broken legs!
jenny from the Blog: You're quite right. With online Yellow pages, you can find a good florist, local to your recipient, in a jiffy. For the cost of a call, magic!
You know, most people don't like George Bush. Except for a few whack jobs on the right.
What would rate as "shocking"? If it turns out Bushco was using the information they were getting to spy on political opponents and reporters.
Are you kidding me? Rove, et al, grew up worshipping the Plumbers, and the only thing they reviled Nixon for was giving up.
There's a major difference between having control over one's feelings and one's behavior. Just sayin'.
JeffCO | 05.12.06 - 6:02 pm | #
Surely, surely.
A friend of my dad's "fell in love" with his current girlfriend while his wife was newly pregnant with their second daughter.
Some of the most depressing delivery room photos I've ever seen.
Now he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.
cheney_usa
Does this mean the brain cloud didn't work?
Mr. Litz and I are installing a Cone Of Silence over our home.
I'm a one woman man and am only interested in love but it wasn't always that way - there was a time in my life when my hormones got the better of me (and a few others I might add)
friend of mine, who's been married 7 months (with her spouse for 6 years prior to the wedding), discovered "polyamory" through a book called "The Ethical Slut." Now, with the grudging acquiescence of her husband, she's experimenting with sleeping with another guy. She claimed it gives her a Zen attitude about relationships, and she enjoys a certain detachment. She is now slowly realizing that it may not be all that and a bag of chips.
Y'know, you invite another person into your marriage and you're multiplying the problem you're not addressing tenfold.
Yes, some people can live like that, in a commune of love and sex, swapping partners and reveling in their freedom, but a fair majority of people are not socialized in that way.
The Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.
The idea of this president using military troops within the borders of the country for any reason scares the crap out of me. Bad precedent. Bad, bad, bad.
Monica_A,
No! Sorry, chica, didn't see your comment. We're fine, mostly, though we're having night-waking troubles. The kids seem to have inherited Thers's seasonal alergies, and they're bad this year, so Rosie, for example, wakes herself coughing about once an hour.
Poor kid. And I'm not as sympathetic as I should be because I'm sleep-deprived.
Bush is announcing "the global war on mexicans" on monday
eah. It'd be nice if as you got older you had more control o=ver them - I have more control over myself but not my emotions - they still rage like when I was 17 -
swampy mcfeverish
Mine too, but in a way that's preferable to the alternative.
I go through protracted periods where I really chafe at being married and I fantasize about getting into trouble like I used to.
I guess the saving grace is that I don't have the offers all the time like I used to.
By the way, I haven't kept up with comments since I'm still on the phone with FTD, but I'll look back and write down all your suggestions!
Thanks guys... and for the moms out there...
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!
The whole situation sucks. I generally dislike people and their dramas. Secretly I want her to get caught...thinking about planting a few Milwaukee's Best in their fridge the next time the husband is out of town, watch the sparks fly and laugh.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 05.12.06 - 6:03 pm | #
Oh, man. That's so sad . . . here's hoping you don't get too caught up in it. It's so unfair of someone to tell you a secret like that- eventually her husband is gonna find out that you knew of her intentions and that is not gonna be fun.
You know, most people don't like George Bush. Except for a few whack jobs on the right.
Heh. Indeedy.
No legitimate excuse for publishing it.
JeffCO
or repeating it dozens of times today.
why does the press so kiss his ass?
since i will only be here briefly on sunday
HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL THE MATRIOTS
Drunk drivers kill a lot more folks than terrorists ever did. How 'bout we bring back Prohibition and enforce it with NSA tapping?
Wonder if that would finally bring the point home?
Nah, probably not.
watertiger,
I've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
You know, most people don't like George Bush. Except for a few whack jobs on the right.
catalexis
Unfortunately every damn one of them has a talk show.
Y'know, you invite another person into your marriage and you're multiplying the problem you're not addressing tenfold.
So true, and so is your last observation in that comment that people aren't socialized that way. If you grow up where something like that is a norm, you probably develop a different psychological reaction to it. We're programed from the beginning it seems to me to be monogamous by western culture.
Bush is announcing "the global war on mexicans" on monday
OMG stock up on tequila PRONTO! Er, I mean, NOW!
This is too funny:
“Dead man walking,” one Republican lawmaker said afterward.
hadenough
Anyone who wants to help my congressman, Bob Ney, make that long walk can donate to Zack Space's campaign.
From what I know he's a pretty good guy; met his wife while working as a public defender, shared a law practice with his dad that specialized in consumer protection law -- not bad progressive credentials for someone from our conservative area . . .
Hate to be a buzzkill, just sayin' ...
Litz |
Damn you, Litz! Damn you to hell!
Now, with the grudging acquiescence of her husband...
That makes a big difference. Take the lying and sneaking around out of infidelity and then it's more a relationship choice. Probably a poor one most of the time, but informed at least.
I guess the saving grace is that I don't have the offers all the time like I used to.
This aging shit is a mixed blessing, indeed.
All right, batties. I'm outta here.
Gotta go cheat on my wife! (Yeah, right.)
Halfdan: loved your comments on local florist's dying not to make another FTD "Mums in a coffee mug" bouquet. For gardeners, a gift Cert or card from anice local nursery can make someone very happy, too. I miss my Mom.
I've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
The movie "Kinsey" is a good lesson in that. Sex can satisfy us or destroy us.
The Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.
Where do we keep getting all these troops? Mexico? Oh, wouldn't *that* be ironic in a brainier age!
thinking about planting a few Milwaukee's Best in their fridge the next time the husband is out of town, watch the sparks fly and laugh.
That could backfire. I'll never forget the story of the perfect couple, high school sweethearts, with great children in their teens who lived in Ankeny, IA. She started an affair with her hubbie's best friend. Hubbie set up a hidden video camera in their bedroom, where sshe and the guy met during the day (Oy). One morning, he got up, shot her, his two kids (son and daughter), called the cops, and then killed himself.
He not only knew what was going on.
He watched a damn video.
Affairs? No fucking way. Heartbreak and tragedy.
So ...Let's review ... Doug Feith, the leading edge of our developing response policy to terrorism in the early days following the hijacked take down of "several" buildings at and surrounding the World Trade Center, at the Office Of Special Plans seriously suggested "we" the people of this sovereign nation, through our Department Of Defense of the United States of America, first focus and strike target locations in Paraguay. His support and attempted sale of these "ideas" was based on his reasoned belief it would surprise international terrorists organizations throughout the world and put them on notice that United States was serious when dealing with terrorism. Ohhh Boy! Am I surprised the NSA management personnel has been continually instructing staff to circumvent reliable oversight mechanisms within the intelligence field of american government? ... nope ... but it is just another example of what a pathetic shambles this freedom loving and promoting country really is and has become.
So ...Let's review ... Doug Feith, the leading edge of our developing response policy to terrorism in the early days following the hijacked take down of "several" buildings at and surrounding the World Trade Center, at the Office Of Special Plans seriously suggested "we" the people of this sovereign nation, through our Department Of Defense of the United States of America, first focus and strike target locations in Paraguay. His support and attempted sale of these "ideas" was based on his reasoned belief it would surprise international terrorists organizations throughout the world and put them on notice that United States was serious when dealing with terrorism. Ohhh Boy! Am I surprised the NSA management personnel has been continually instructing staff to circumvent reliable oversight mechanisms within the intelligence field of american government? ... nope ... but it is just another example of what a pathetic shambles this freedom loving and promoting country really is and has become.
I've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
NYMary
Ummm, I've seen one that did. Not indefinitely, but for a period.
Been afk for a while, and just saw the thread about John Gibson below.
I realize it's after the fact, but I think it's worth mentioning that John Gibson is an asshat.
That's all. Thanks.
Boy, the last sentence in that last comment of mine really sucked. I'm sorry. It sucked so bad it didn't make sense, ultimately.
Bah.
wait ...the guys whoi come back from three prolonged tours of duty in Iraq...would then work the borders?
This aging shit is a mixed blessing, indeed.
NYMary
yeah it sucks, but there are more than a few saving graces along the way.
If there weren't, who'd do it?
So true, and so is your last observation in that comment that people aren't socialized that way
I picked up a copy of the book so I could at least understand where she's coming from.
I appreciate the authors' attitudes about sexuality, but as far as the whole "open marriage" thing goes, it's not for me.
I mean, unless you're getting married for tax purposes or for a green card, why bother?
I guess the saving grace is that I don't have the offers all the time like I used to.
no it's not..
it's my own problem, but i resent getting older.
then again there is the titty bar, where all the girls like you.
for the record i don't really hang out there much, but sometimes the other old guys force me... yeah, that's the ticket.
Gotta go cheat on my wife! (Yeah, right.)
Oops, that's my cue to leave!
[kisses Miriam chastely on the cheek]
Well, I see I didn't miss fitzmas while I was at my board meeting today.
GODDAMNIT!!
indict the fucker already.
If you grow up where something like that is a norm, you probably develop a different psychological reaction to it. We're programed from the beginning it seems to me to be monogamous by western culture.
Tena
Well, that's what's interesting about Big Love to me. Barb wasn't socialized to polygamy and Nicki was (Marji wasn't, but her background is different, I've read), but I don't see that Nicki's better at it, or less jealous. Barb really sems very calm and accepting, though sad for what's been lost. Nicki plays the politics, including the fake attempt to get pregnant.
watertiger,
I've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
NYMary
Ditto, someone always winds up getting hurt. Let's face it, one of the main perqs of being married is that you have someone firmly, undividely in your corner. Adding a third party necessarily dilutes that relationship.
Maria del Nueva York,
Have joo tried procuring honey from a local apiary, (or local store that carries same) and giving the leetle one two teaspoons per day?
Thees regimen has done wonders for a humano of my acquaintance.
so.
This is going to be such a tar baby. Militarizing the southern border ineffectively is going to backfire, doing so with the numbers to be effective will be confrontational as all get out. Did KBR finish building those concentration camps yet?
Speaking of dating woes . . .
I have an offer (already?!) for a beer date in a week or so (Next weekend).
Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?
It's so unfair of someone to tell you a secret like that- eventually her husband is gonna find out that you knew of her intentions and that is not gonna be fun.
Exactly - anyone not wanting to get caught keeps it to him- or herself. My response to being put in those kinds of positions is to say that depending on the issue I am fine not volunteering information, but asked a direct question I'm not going to lie about it. I'm generally in favor of encouraging intra-relationship communication, in particular *before* someone decides to violate trust. Afterwards I don't have a 'right' answer.
Halfdan: loved your comments on local florist's dying not to make another FTD "Mums in a coffee mug" bouquet.
Thanks. I learned that one from an ex-girlfriend who worked in a flower shop.
Sorry about your mom, though.
I realize it's after the fact, but I think it's worth mentioning that John Gibson is an asshat.
Besides, sometimes it's just fun to mention the obvious.
In case anyone forgets.
I mean, unless you're getting married for tax purposes or for a green card, why bother?
Exactly. And it may work *for a while*, but there's something to that saying: two's company, three (or more)'s a crowd.
we do it nice cause we do it twice ...must be haloscans motto
i gotta go put food on my family. back in a bit.
Affairs? No fucking way. Heartbreak and tragedy.
pie
The Milwaukee's Best was an inside joke. This would never happen, the guy's first wife cheated on him and it nearly crushed his soul.
I've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
NYMary
I think the couple has to stop sleeping together and have a really big mortgage with both of their names on it.
For a duplex.
I don't mean to sound prissy or sanctimonious but I have made it a cornerstone of my personal philosophy to not interfere in other people's relationships and family life if at all possible.
I do not tell secrets.
I correspond by email with the youngest daughter of one of my closest friends. They both know I will not reveal anything to her mother that she doesn't want me to.
I do not stick my nose in even where I see something I think is wrong - like substance abuse. I do not believe in interventions outside of family only. It's none of my business.
Ditto, someone always winds up getting hurt. Let's face it, one of the main perqs of being married is that you have someone firmly, undividely in your corner. Adding a third party necessarily dilutes that relationship.
ql in ny | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:13 pm | #
Unless both people somehow are able to completely dehumanize sex, I doubt that it's possible.
And I really doubt that you can truly dehumanize sex.
Ummm, I've seen one that did. Not indefinitely, but for a period.
Yeah, I guess. The divorce usually comes down the road a piece, from what I've seen. Someone usually wants to stop before the other person does, however, and that's never good.
I do know one pair of couples who did this, and all four of them (and their kids) lived together for a while, then both couples divorced and remarried the other direction. I guess that's sort of successful....
Heh. Randi playing Bush saying "I don't e-mail, however. And there's a reason: I don't want you reading my personal stuff."
I have an offer (already?!) for a beer date in a week or so (Next weekend).
Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?
Nope. You can only slow down your reaction to it. So say no.
Speaking of dating woes . . .
I have an offer (already?!) for a beer date in a week or so (Next weekend).
Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?
Quit whining, dearie. Soon enough time will creep up on you (like the rest of us old fossils) and the highlight of YOUR week will be sci-fi blogging too.
The Milwaukee's Best was an inside joke. This would never happen, the guy's first wife cheated on him and it nearly crushed his soul.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 05.12.06 - 6:15 pm | #
Oh my God. Poor guy.
Here's hoping it works out in the best way possible for all involved . . . which will probably still suck a lot . . .
"Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?"
--VV, ready for anything
Not if you're hot. And it seems you are.
If you want to go say, yes. If you don't say, no.
And I really doubt that you can truly dehumanize sex. ~ VV, ready for anything
*ahem*
Joo mean "de-personalize" eet?
eh?
Milwaukee's Best
What a coincidence. I'm writing a piece about Milwaukee's best. For next week.
Well, I don't have much advice to give on the subject of marriage.
I'm singularly bad at being married.
Nope. You can only slow down your reaction to it. So say no.
NTodd, Pervizzle | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:17 pm |
We'll see how I feel next week . . .
a'ight
peace and humptiness forever
have a fabulous weekend
Not to be sanctimonious either but I've found that there are very few things in life I do perfectly. I'm a lousy cook, a lousy housekeeper, a terribly absent-minded father, and sometimes distracted at work.
But if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.
* S: (v) dehumanize, dehumanise (deprive of human qualities) "Life in poverty has dehumanized them"
* S: (v) dehumanize, dehumanise (make mechanical or routine)
I think that works.
The Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.
The idea of this president using military troops within the borders of the country for any reason scares the crap out of me. Bad precedent. Bad, bad, bad.
Neponset | 05.12.06 - 6:05 pm | #
How much do you want to bet they'd also "control the border" with Mexico on this side, too, meaning people approaching it from the north would have to explain what they're doing or go through some extra controls? Earlier today, I read something about a film director who's having trouble going to Cannes because the Dept. of Homeland Security has put some sort of hold on his passport. What kind of crap is that?
Clinton gets higher poll ratings than Bush on honesty
.
We could all go vote 'no' and tourture Loud Obbs just for old time's sake. Huh? Huh? Can we?
eh?
¡El Gato Negro!
one last thing
is el gato secretly candian?
El Gato,
I have not, but perhaps I will. I thought honey was a really common trigger, though?
Anyway, Sean's done nursing and the sun is making my screen glare, so I'll sign off. Besos, all!
What is Ralph Reed hiding?
.......... Lobbyist and Lt. Governor candidate Ralph Reed keeps telling Georgia voters he wants to discuss his "past work as a consultant" "squarely and forthrightly (Source: Ralph Reed, Remarks to TeenPact, December 9, 2005)." However, Ralph's public activities show he continues to do everything possible to avoid answering any real questions about the clients he has worked for and the services he has performed as a multi-million dollar lobbyist.................
http://www.theweekly.com/news/
20...interviews.html.
And I really doubt that you can truly dehumanize sex. ~ VV, ready for anything
*ahem*
Joo mean "de-personalize" eet?
Well, gato, santorum and cornyn have been able to dehumanize it. I think they prefer it that way.
Well, that's what's interesting about Big Love to me. Barb wasn't socialized to polygamy and Nicki was (Marji wasn't, but her background is different, I've read), but I don't see that Nicki's better at it, or less jealous. Barb really sems very calm and accepting, though sad for what's been lost. Nicki plays the politics, including the fake attempt to get pregnant.
I agree and one of the show's subtexts I think is how this kind of situation plays out exactly like one imagines it would, with a constantly shifting two against one energy and lots of jealousy.
Could you explain something to me? Is Nicki taking birthcontrol? It sure looks like it. She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
This aging shit is a mixed blessing, indeed.
NYMary
yeah it sucks, but there are more than a few saving graces along the way.
If there weren't, who'd do it?
Tena
"Grow old along with me, the best is yet to be,
The last of life, for which the first was made."
Yeah, but what did Browning know?
"Old age that is tied to me as to a dog's tale."
That's more like it.
I think that works. VV
You're such a speciesist.
Well, see you guys later.
Could you explain something to me? Is Nicki taking birthcontrol? It sure looks like it. She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:20 pm | #
Yeah, she's requesting more nights with Bill (meaning more power and an edge over the other wives) because she claims she is trying to get preggo. But she's on the pill, so she can keep doing it as long as possible.
The Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.
Those idiots have any idea how long that border is, and what it looks like? River bed. Mountains. High desert.
Troops? From Brownsville to San Diego? Don't make me laugh.
Troops? From Brownsville to San Diego? Don't make me laugh.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:22 pm | #
You and your facts.
Facts have a liberal bias, you know.
Could you explain something to me? Is Nicki taking birthcontrol? It sure looks like it. She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena |
She's pretending to be trying to get pregnant, but obviously she's not. It was definitely birth control, and definitly hidden. But as long as they think she's trying, she gets all kind of leeway.
But then last week she told him she spent the night in a shelter, and then she pulled out a receipt from a hotel. Which means she not only lied, but must still have held a credit card back.
A joke, bonita.
perrrhaps made too soon, yo disculpeme.
so.
Someone usually wants to stop before the other person does, however, and that's never good.
NYMary
I think it's generally not a great idea. A lot of the difficulties might be dependent on the power differential in the relationship. I'm just saying, anecdotally (and unlike that HUD guy I know what the word means) that if people are securely attached and not inclined toward jealousy, that it can work.
Again, I'm not advocating it.
BTW, I think Ang Lee's The Ice Storm (though not generally well-received) does a nice job on the infidelity issue with its 70s era key party scene.
But then last week she told him she spent the night in a shelter, and then she pulled out a receipt from a hotel. Which means she not only lied, but must still have held a credit card back.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:23 pm | #
Oh, THATS what that was about?
I thought it was that she and Bill had stayed in a hotel together, like when he and Barb had their affair.
That makes so much more sense.
What a bitch!
What is Ralph Reed hiding?
Laugh of the day!
"Big Love" sounds like the opening to "Anna Karenina." Don't remember where, now, but I heard an interview with a wife in a polygamous marriage. She was very happy, as were the other wives. She said new wives got along with the old ones, or they didn't last long.
Somehow I don't think you could play many games in such an arrangement and have peace. Either everyone would leave, or someone once in a while would realize they weren't welcome.
I'M SHOCKED! Shocked.
Just saying.
What a bitch!
Oh, yeah. She's her father's daughter.
We're programed from the beginning it seems to me to be monogamous by western culture.
Tena
but not by biology, there is the rub.
chimps are the most promiscuous ape, humans are second.
gorillas don't count, they keep harems.
BTW, I think Ang Lee's The Ice Storm (though not generally well-received) does a nice job on the infidelity issue with its 70s era key party scene.
JeffCO | 05.12.06 - 6:24 pm | #
I love that sex scene in the car. Brief, awkward and unsatisfying- and they both realize how totally not worth it the whole thing was.
rmj, I prefer this from a plaque we bought on our honeymoon 32 years ago:
Do remember - to forget
Anger, worry, and regret.
Love while you've got love to give.
Live while you've got life to live.
-Piet Hein
For you, VV.
Oh, yeah. She's her father's daughter.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:26 pm | #
Roman makes me squirm. Especially with that young wifey of his. *squirm squirm*
Ugh.
final wash out on infidelity. dont promise things you're unqualified to promise.
Brief, awkward and unsatisfying- and they both realize how totally not worth it the whole thing was.
I like it when he tells the hippie minister he shouldn't be there and he admits he's right.
Roman makes me squirm. Especially with that young wifey of his. *squirm squirm*
Yep, they don't get much creepier.
BTW, I think Ang Lee's The Ice Storm (though not generally well-received) does a nice job on the infidelity issue with its 70s era key party scene.
JeffCO
pretty depressing film eh? lot of alienation.
that if people are securely attached and not inclined toward jealousy,
Not inclined toward jealousy?
Then either they don't truly care for that person, or they're not human.
OK BOBO.......JUST QUOTED THE WAPO POLL ON MERKINS 66% WANTING TO BE SPYED ON............................EVIL EMAILS TO HIM.........NOW HE JUST SAID ABRAMOFF WAS ONLY AT THE WHITEHOUSE TWICE........................L......I........A....
.R!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OT:
In between Verizon's pre-existing crapulence and the latest data mining abomination, Jen and I have been shopping around for an alternative.
We just signed up for Vonage VoIP and will be punting Verizon. If anyone else is considering going to VoIP, we will be happy to report on how the service is. So far, setting it up was a breeze. Not many phone calls yet, though, since the new phones need to be charged first....
Does feel good being able to ditch Verizon though...
For you, VV.
pie | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:26 pm | #
Thanks, baby.
David Brooks is so full of shit I can smell it from here. He is in rare form even for him. Oh my god.
Oh, VV, that young wife is bad news. She's a thief and a liar and totally amoral under that face.
lot of alienation.
but we now know what to do with alien nations, have more babies.
"I married a slut for christ" is one of the best films about infidelity.
pie--I'm glad one of us is dealing in sage advice.
I was just being grumpy.
But then last week she told him she spent the night in a shelter, and then she pulled out a receipt from a hotel. Which means she not only lied, but must still have held a credit card back.
NYMary
Oh yeah.
I know she went to a hotel which means she has a card. I just could not figure that birth control thing out, but I guess we'll find out.
I say Kos last night at his appearance here. He was really good. I watched him with people and spoke to him briefly, and I thought he was quite genuine and generous with people. Haven't read the book yet.
Cancel your Verizon, ATT&T, and BellSouth.
Is that a terrible sacrifice?
Then write to your representatives, Repub or Dem, and tell them to suck it. They'll know why.
This is an emergency. Am I wrong?
I ask you, AM I WRONG?
Peace.
I love that sex scene in the car. Brief, awkward and unsatisfying- and they both realize how totally not worth it the whole thing was. -VV
It's all in the timing. Like, for example, taking a minute to have that realization beforehand and then not going through with it can make for far less pain. Of course there are some experiences we really need to go through to figure out that we don't want to keep going through them, but I suspect there are far far fewer of those than we like to tell ourselves.
"I married a slut for christ" is one of the best films about infidelity.
earl 'cliche' guevera
The story of Hosea, right?
(Sorry. Obscure and slightly off Biblical joke.)
The story of Hosea, right?
(Sorry. Obscure and slightly off Biblical joke.)
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
oh yeh i remember that one now!
She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena
Yup. I think she is just using this pregnancy thingy to get extra time and try to gain an advantage. That is one cynical woman. She lies more in one episode than I have in a lifetime.
She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena
Yup. I think she is just using this pregnancy thingy to get extra time and try to gain an advantage. That is one cynical woman. She lies more in one episode than I have in a lifetime.
David Brooks is so full of shit I can smell it from here. He is in rare form even for him. Oh my god.
Neponset
On NPR earlier I thought he was approaching sounding like a sane person, although a person who had an ideology firmly implanted in his ass.
Do remember - to forget
Anger, worry, and regret.
Love while you've got love to give.
Live while you've got life to live.
-Piet Hein
My greatuncle (who just passed away) loved Piet Hein. He was a great man.
Thanks.
Oh, VV, that young wife is bad news. She's a thief and a liar and totally amoral under that face.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:29 pm | #
Yeah, those super-privileged Mormon girls tend to be like that.
I'm wondering- the show is soooo well researched. As someone who lived near Mormon communities for most of my life, I wonder what the background is on the writers. They have it DOWN!
I'm going to eat something and watch my Netflix movie.
'night, all!
http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/12/...dex.htm?
cnn=yes
'Stocks sank for the second straight session Friday as inflationary concerns weighed heavily on investors, with the Dow industrials down more than 260 points over the two-day drubbing.'
I was just being grumpy.
We all feel like kicking and screaming on a given day.
Tomorrow will be better.
BOBO...JUST SAID HE WENT TO CAPITAL HILL AS...............WAIT FOR IT.....................MR. SUNSHINE
i watch so you dont have to
sittenpretty,
are joo watching Lerher?
So I don't have to?
gracias.
I suspect there are far far fewer of those than we like to tell ourselves.
JeffCO | 05.12.06 - 6:30 pm | #
I think some people are just less able to make decisions like that- they have to just let things happen to them and deal with the consequences.
Thankfully I'm a pretty cautious person . . .
Do remember - to forget
Anger, worry, and regret.
Love while you've got love to give.
Live while you've got life to live.
-Piet Hein
Let us go, then, you and I
when the evening is spread out against the sky
like a patient etherized upon a table.
...
I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas
It's not getting any better, is it? Drat!
Nim, keep me appraised, please.
Nim, keep me appraised, please.
DWD
Okay. You're down by a buck and a half.
If you want that in writing, you'll only be down by a buck and a quarter.
Let us go, then, you and I
when the evening is spread out against the sky
like a patient etherized upon a table.
...
That one's my favorite.
Sigh. What a beautiful poem . . .
Thanks.
You're welcome.
I've looked at that hundreds of times when times were tough, and it's helped me to keep my perspective.
Wow, I just read the gaggle transcript at First Draft. This is Holden's fondest wet dream. Snowjob is completely incompetent. Just at the time that the administration is self-destructing, too.
Just wow.
Sigh. What a beautiful poem . . .
VV, ready for anything
And I have seen the Eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker
Let us go, then, you and I
when the evening is spread out against the sky
like a patient etherized upon a table.
Oh, that's a keeper to be sure.
Keep it to yourself.
Heh. Big Love thread.
I don't watch the show, but I saw Anderson cooper do a whole special about mormons and polygamy and this nut on the FBI 10 Most Wanted List.
I was trying to explain to my friend who just arrived from India what Mormonism is and who this loon is and the "10 Most Wanted List," and got on to talking about Waco and Koresh and what happened there.
Then Anderson Cooper asks a cop what would happen if federal agents try to arrest this psycho at his compound in Texas, right now.
He gave a one word answer:
"Waco."
Totally creepy.
I think some people are just less able to make decisions like that- they have to just let things happen to them and deal with the consequences.
There's a qualitative difference between going with the flow mindfully and with awareness versus allowing oneself to be swept along by the current by default. We're free to do anything along that spectrum, but I tend to think we do what we do until we decide to do something else. That is, it's all choice.
You beat time on my head
With a palm caked hard by dirt,
Then waltzed me off to bed
Still clinging to your shirt.
Are you kidding me? Rove, et al, grew up worshipping the Plumbers, and the only thing they reviled Nixon for was giving up.
Max Planck
Why the hell do you think I put the word shocking in quotes and added the comment "I personally wouldn't be surprised, but that certainly would be an atomic bomb as far as scandals go" ?
sittenpretty,
are joo watching Lerher?
So I don't have to?
gracias.
¡El Gato Negro! | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:35 pm | #
**************************
Si pretty kitty
BRIAAAAAAAAAN williams is speak with forked tounge
no wonder the merkins dont know shite from shinola
newshour is no better sigh
Nim, we did have some preliminary problems with Vonage. Email me and my husband can fill you in if you have questions.
God save Friday Nudibranch Blogging!
I mean it, man.
Ok, I see that ql and VV answered the birth control thing while I was saying hi to my husband.
Thanks - I get it now. D'oh - how can I be so dense?
But if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.
Halfdan
I don't know if you are still around, but that is just damned beautiful.
Si, Newshour used to be a beet better when MacD=Neil was there.
Eet may take years to clean PBS of all the hacks foisted on eet by el Chimperador.
so.
C'mon RMJ, I am tired and it is Friday and my kids was bad and the administration is evil. Should I have used apprised?
Oh well, what the A.
C'mon RMJ, I am tired and it is Friday and my kids was bad and the administration is evil. Should I have used apprised?
Oh well, what the A.
DWD
Just enjoying the vagaries of the language.
But if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.
Halfdan
I agree with Tina. Very nice.
But if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.
Halfdan
I feel the same way, but didn't realize it 'til you expressed it so well. Thanks.
Paraphrasing but I read this two-line poem in my literature book I read during teachers;' meetings.
The English lady is so kind
But no bosom and no behind.
On NPR earlier I thought he was approaching sounding like a sane person, although a person who had an ideology firmly implanted in his ass.
According to His Boboness this whole NSA thing is fine with the folks. He had that 63% approval number ready to whip out. Security is a good issue for Bush. He may have some other issues but this is gonna blow over. May even help a bit.
Si, Newshour used to be a beet better when MacD=Neil was there.
Eet may take years to clean PBS of all the hacks foisted on eet by el Chimperador.
so.
¡El Gato Negro! | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:45 pm | #
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pretty kitty
it has become the comedy news hour
because,they cant be for real
eh comedy is tradgedy and visa-versa
too bad we are living it
or we could laugh more,no?
Sundays too my father got up early
and put his clothes on in the blueblack cold,
then with cracked hands that ached
from labor in the weekday weather made
banked fires blaze. No one ever thanked him.
I'd wake and hear the cold splintering, breaking.
When the rooms were warm, he'd call,
and slowly I would rise and dress,
fearing the chronic angers of that house,
Speaking indifferently to him,
who had driven out the cold
and polished my good shoes as well.
What did I know, what did I know
of love's austere and lonely offices?
-Robert Hayden
For some reason, every time I take a particular bus in the evening, two Mormon missionaries get on it too and bug the rest of the passengers 'witnessing'. Man, are they aggressive! And as far as I know they haven't converted anybody yet.
RMJ( My bad, btw. I thought they were spelt the same way with pronunciation dependent on situation.)
Phila like the George Herbert.
In case you missed it earlier, Friday Baby Blogging
RMJ( My bad, btw. I thought they were spelt the same way with pronunciation dependent on situation.)
DWD
Someday the difference will be no difference at all.
Thus is the perversity of language.
RMJ, I always like purify and putrify.
God fucking damn it. Congress, get off your collective ass and kick these freaks to the curb. For the rest of us, if Congress won't do it's job, then elect people who will.
B1 Bummer
-Republican Congress: Support the President!
Democratic Congress: We're going to fight for you...in the 30th Century...well, we can't do it NOW 'cause that wouldn't be civil.
Phila like the George Herbert.
Ya got me dead to rights.
"I mean it, man."
--Phila
Friday Nudibranch Blogging! One of the most gorgeous creature sites on the internet.
I don't know if you are still around, but that is just damned beautiful.
Thanks.
I just wrote to Lou Dobbs. What an idiot I am!
I wrote something like,
"Yeah Lou! That's great! The Kent State solution! Send the troops in and kill a few people. It ended the war in Vietnam, and maybe now it will end the fear of the scary brown people and their spicy food. Because as even the simpleton Ronald Reagan might have learned, you can't 'kill 'em all.'"
Really we've got to use the power of the internets to tell these whores to suck it. Otherwise we're just pissing in the wind. No offense to anyone, but this could be a powerful tool....
Love you all. Peace.
-Speedy
Remember the Will Smith/Gene Hackman film Enemy of the State?
I remember thinking it was overly alarmist.
Of course, that was back during the Clinton presidency, when a haircut taken at the wrong time and place was the cause for outrage in the media.
To summarize: breaking the law to spy on the American citizenry - OK.
getting a haircut on Air Force One- utterly despicable.
What are you thinking? What thinking? What?
I never know what you are thinking. Think.
I think we are in rat's alley
where the dead men lost their bones
20 bucks say Tice does not make it to the hearings next week
And Lou Dobbs is an incredible xenophobe.
I hope someone offs the traitor.
.
I will be back with some more pronouncements later
I hope his threat holds and his evidence is good, because I want to see this Administration get the true justice it deserves for the harm it has inflicated upon this nation and the world. Before I start to celebrate, however, the cynic in me wonders why would someone leak that he has bombshell information before he actually gives testimony of same. I should think if he witheld his information this long, why not wait one more week? Why give the enemy an inkling of your intentions?
Hopefully my cynicism will be misplaced this time and the information bears fruit, so that they all get sent to Abu G. on the Potomac.
Katherin Harris: Pistol-packin' mama!
Bill Bunting, the Pasco County Republican leader and the course instructor, said he has been encouraging Harris for months to take the class.
"During the first Bush (presidential) election, people forget how quickly she had all those death threats on her life," Bunting said. "You never know if there's a nut out there."
Nope. You never know.
I am a traitor.
the Right tells me so.
I am hate-fueled and angry.
the Media has so described me.
And now, finally...
sekmet, I have had a Jehovah Witness woman follow me around from three moves over the last 28 years. She is really nice, and I usually answer the door when she comes by and chat, but today I hid in my office. I couldn't handle it.
I am a terrorist
Thus has the security apparatus of my country accused me.
Like a child called "Bad boy", a description becomes prediction.
Harris has a great bod, but that interview appearance she made right after she got enhanced was the most disturbing thing I've ever seen.
I guess the National Guard will stand down as the border patrol stand up. Or something.
I keep repeating:
"I have nothing to hide. What do you?"
You have LOTS to hide.
Liberal secrecy in the face of the biggest threat this nation has ever faced will not be tolerated by most right-thinking Americans.
.
Often beneath the wave, wide from this ledge
The dice of drowned men's bones he saw bequeath
An embassy. Their numbers as he watched,
Beat on the dusty shore and were obscured.
And wrecks passed without sound of bells,
The calyx of death's bounty giving back
A scattered chapter, livid hieroglyph,
The portent wound in corridors of shells.
God save Friday Nudibranch Blogging!
I mean it, man.
Phila
Cool nudi, Phila.
But don't forget to ask people to scroll down to Friday Hope Blogging, which is right below the nudi.
A Time for Heresy
Bill Moyers
March 22, 2006
.......fundamentalists; they believe in the absolute inerrancy of the Bible and the divine right of preachers to tell you what it means. They also believe in the separation of church and state only if they cannot control both. The only way to cooperate with fundamentalists, it has been said, is to obey them. ....................It was in the name of Jesus that the young priest John Ryan – ten years before the New Deal – crusaded for child labor laws, unemployment insurance, a minimum wage, and decent housing for the poor. And it was in the name of Jesus that Martin Luther King Jr. went to Memphis to march with sanitation workers who were asking only for a living wage.
This is the heresy of our time – to wrestle with the gods who guard the boundaries of this great nation’s promise, and to confront the medicine men in the woods, twirling their bullroarers to keep us in fear and trembling. For the greatest heretic of all is Jesus of Nazareth, who drove the money changers from the temple in Jerusalem as we must now drive the money changers from the temples of democracy.
http://www.tompaine.com/
articles..._for_heresy.php
There is a very loud amusement park right in front of my present lodgings.
Fantastic poem, Jeffers.
I hope someone offs the traitor.
David Patterson | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:57 pm | #
That ees no way to talk about jour President.
Stop that right now.
so.
I hope someone offs the traitor.
.
David Patterson
Be careful for the karma
Little Brother,
Do you know that you're quoting my favorite novel?
"we must now drive the money changers from the temples of democracy."
--
And that would be the Clintons, the Reids, The Pelosis of this world.
.
I ain't shockable anymore.
But I'm sure these fascist bastards will come up with something to make me take that statement back.
Everytime I think they've done their absolute worst, they turn around and dig a little deeper into the bag of dirty tricks!
carl to be indicted
Parodyson's Web site is as valid as his parody viewpoint.
Liberal secrecy in the face of the biggest threat this nation has ever faced will not be tolerated by most right-thinking Americans.
STFUAD!
Mr. Patterson,
Now that the media and my government have defined me as an traitorous, angry, hate-fueled terrorist, I'd be careful if I were you.
How this for shocking, liberal: you and your kind rounded up for treason in wartime. I am glad the surveillance of the people will expose the traitors among us.
.
Okay. Boca Raton Florist. Lovely little shop.
And FUCK YOU FTD!!! Can I have the last hour of my life back?
Ahem.
I've written down all your great ideas for the future... And why I didn't ask y'all for advice in teh first place I'll never know.
Lou Dobbs is a tool as all the major media heads are tools or they wouldn't be there. And that includes Keith O., whom I love.
Oh fucking jesus, "Heroes" now on CNN.
Heroes=It's YOUR MONEY!
It's your money. It's. Your. Money. Your. Money. Your. Money. It's your money. You're a hero with YOUR MONEY. You're a hero. It's your money. It's your money. It's your money. Your money. Your money. Your money. Heroes. Money. Your money. You're a hero. It's your money.
I'm a hero and it's my money.
I'm NOT a hero and it's your money. It's everybody's money. Everyone's a hero. Take your fucking money. Now. Take it and go. With peace.
The Anonymous was mine.
Damn HELL-o-scan!
Harris has a great bod...
I'd hit dat!
apologies for last post -
karl rove to be indicted.
there, thats better.
anyone hear this on randi rhodes. i didn't get the source
you and your kind rounded up for treason in wartime
Ain't gonna happen, Davey Boy.
Give it up!
You think if I could print up 25 million t-shirts with the words "I Am a Terrorist" I could get Americans to wear them?
Any heads on pikes yet?
Goddam, somebody get this guy a few bodyguards, and tell him to stay away from small planes and elevators.
Dave J.
Somebody tell him to keep away from microphones. I dunno...I hope I'm wrong, but I'm getting a bit of a publicity-seeker vibe from this guy. He supposedly was demoted and then fired for doggedly insisting a coworker was a Chinese spy. We need a good reporter on this one. Sy? Peter? Dana? Anybody?
karl rove to be indicted.
there, thats better.
anyone hear this on randi rhodes. i didn't get the source
GORT | 05.12.06 - 7:05 pm | #
--
There's your source RIGHT THERE! The left liberal fever swamp!
Haaaahahahahahaahahaaaaa.
.
Checking out a DVD I bought on e-bay the other day:
A 1951 Bette Davis flick called "Payment on Demand."
apologies for last post -
karl rove to be indicted.
there, thats better.
anyone hear this on randi rhodes. i didn't get the source
GORT
I heard this too, but also didn't get the source.
Now as I was young and easy
under the apple boughs about the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
the night about the dingle starry,
Time let me hail and climb
Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the
apple towns
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
Trail with daisies and barley
Down the rivers of the windfall light.
Oh boy. Saddam has a book, the wingers heads will spin anew that such as he might have his words appear in any place but a court transcript.
In other news, we're getting real good at taking out #3's, just got one of ours too. --heh
You think if I could print up 25 million t-shirts with the words "I Am a Terrorist" I could get Americans to wear them?
Pope Ratzo
I'd wear one.
not the shocker!?!
Anyone know if Cingular is a subsidiary of ATT or did ATT sell that cell biz to Cingular? I want my $1,000. Thanks
"Saddam has a book"
I'll bet he's more lucid than Bush.
Seeing as it's Friday, would it be wrong to start cocktails an hour early?
"Saddam has a book"
I'll bet he's more lucid than Bush.
Terry C, One of the 71% | 05.12.06 - 7:08 pm | #
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Liberals worship terrorists and dictators who gas their own people.
.
Tweety sux and is stoopid.
Aright, folks- I'm out . . . for my first Friday night solo in about 7 months.
Hm.
I'll fill y'all in later.
Love,
VV
oh davie -truthout.org has is the source. read and weep backwash of america
"Anyone know if Cingular is a subsidiary of ATT or did ATT sell that cell biz to Cingular? I want my $1,000. Thanks
ErinPDX "
Cingular got assimilated into the borg.
Parodyson's Web site is as valid as his parody viewpoint.
That asshole has a website?
Wire services are reporting that Saddam's Nukes have been found buried in the Syrian desert.
Here's the Jason Leopold story saying Rove has told Bush he'll be indicted:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/
051206Y.shtml
Just like Guy Fawkes, we should all get t-shirts or buttons that say "I am a Terrorist".
I swear to God it's time for us to start tearing this entire system down. The more I try to find something good about it the more disappointed I become.
No election is going to get us there. No blogs, no op-eds. It really is time for lots and lots of people, in the street.
Maybe it'll shock the 'bottie?
evening moonbats
Friend of mind has a credit card bill that comes to:
His Name
TERRORIST
street address
city, st zip
The handiwork of an offshore CSR who didn't understand "Terraces", the name of the apt complex, when she took his change of address.
VV, good luck. That nesting urge is something, eh?
I guess that is what we all want: a place of solace where you can just be yourself.
Seriously, hope that magic finds you. When it does, it will probably be in the most unlikely place.
Tweety was sucking up to Imus this morning, and told him that Karl might be indicted today. Rawstory has a transcript.
Not sure if I'd put much stock in that. Just more spittle.
Sallyh, is the sun past the yardarm where you are? It is here.
Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, did not return a call for comment Friday.
He's been surprisingly silent for weeks now.
Or maybe, it's not so surprising.
extremly lovely Friday Cat Blogging
Seriously, hope that magic finds you. When it does, it will probably be in the most unlikely place.
DWD | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 7:12 pm | #
Thanks, DWD . . .
Now I'm really leaving . . .
C'mon, Tweety. You mentioned cigars. You know you can't resist trashing Clinton.
May I say how much I would love to cockpunch Tweety?
"Nim, we did have some preliminary problems with Vonage. Email me and my husband can fill you in if you have questions.
pie "
You said you're pretty happy with it overall, right?
So far I haven't had any trouble getting everything set up, made a few test phone calls. Seems OK so far, but it's only been one afternoon.
is the sun past the yardarm?
It hasn't come soon enough for me.
Before alcohol becomes outlawed for the working class...
Atriots, Salut!
"Anyone know if Cingular is a subsidiary of ATT or did ATT sell that cell biz to Cingular? I want my $1,000. Thanks
ErinPDX "
Cingular got assimilated into the borg.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
I had AT&T cell, now Cingular. I had SBC landline, now AT&T. I'm getting dizzy...
The supreme court ruled that americans don't have an expectation of privacy with regard to phone records.
Therefore no 4th amendment issue.
This is why polls are showing americans aren't concerned with this issue.
Here's the Jason Leopold story saying Rove has told Bush he'll be indicted:
HOLYFUCKINGSHIT!
VV, sometime - when you have the time and I have the inclination - I wrote a long series of thoughts about love and stuff. It is decent but I copped out and when I rewrite I will have to steel myself to handle the pain as well as the pleasure that goes with the territory.
So far I haven't had any trouble getting everything set up, made a few test phone calls. Seems OK so far, but it's only been one afternoon.
The second call had a lot of static on it, don't you think? Or were you just eating some Doritos?
Baudelaire opened up a hamburger stand
in San Francisco,
but he put flowers between the buns.
People would come in and say,
“Give me a hamburger with plenty of onions on it.”
Baudelaire would give them a flowerburger
instead and the people would say,
“What kind of a hamburger stand is this?”
Richard Brautigan from: The Pill Versus The Springhill Mine Disaster
so.
A Need For Hell
Let there be hell again! -
That virtue thought to do without,
Confusing goodness with rash plenty.
The evil have a right to live
In the freedom conferred on fools.
But give them back their hell,
And may it be the home of fools as well.
These NSA phone logs are just content with all personal identity elements stripped out.
There is not enough of the good things
To go round among so many.
The virtuous persuaded virtue
To be a providence to all
And, for a fairer name,
To stop hell's meats and harvests,
Nourishing the fat foreigners herself.
You said you're pretty happy with it overall, right?
We've had a couple of calls dropped.
Lately, nothing, and on balance, with all the features it offers, we're not looking back.
They have indeed been nourished,
They gleam with flesh as richly as before;
While virtue's own, for hospitality,
Renounce the democratic board
That once a table was of friends.
Meals to the foul, and scraps to the fools -
The sign of virtue is to starve.
Therefore let there be hell again.
Virtue cannit herself and those maintain.
--Laura Riding
Tweety, your calls to Chimpy and Ghouliani have been taped. For shame, sir!
The NSA spying program currently in place
would have prevented 9/11.
Well, that was really fucking stupid. Thanks a lot, fy...can't even post a short poem in one piece thanks to year.
May ye be ten years a-dyin'.
The supreme court ruled that
Got a case citation? I'll take S.Ct. or L.Ed. if that's all you got. By the way, how bout you throw me a link to that Saddam story? Couldn't find it on my AP ticker. Thanks ever so much.
jack loves George Bush more than Jesus.
"The second call had a lot of static on it, don't you think? Or were you just eating some Doritos?
NSA Agent "
Sorry, I'll speak up next time =(
I had no trouble hearing Mr. bin Laden though.
Phila that was beautiful, and well worth it.
Wheee! Late to the party. So, Foggo bit it! ME SOOOOOOO HAPPPPPPY!
This poem was found written on a paper bag by Richard Brautigan in a laundromat in San Francisco. The author is unknown.
By accident, you put
Your money in my
Machine (#4)
By accident, I put
My money in another
Machine (#6)
On purpose, I put
Your clothes in the
Empty machine full
Of water and no
Clothes
It was lonely.
(so)
Richard Brautigan from: The Pill Versus The Springhill Mine Disaster
so.
¡El Gato Negro!
I tried reading some Brautigan--highly reccommended by my somewhat chemically altered brother--and came away with the feeling that unless you were on the same drugs Brautigan was on when he wrote it, it might as well be the phone book.
Benediction
From the candle of liberty
so brightly shone
To the darkness of enmity
We are alone.
Out of nothingness we came
Hastening the light
To the eternity of shame
In the darkest night
The enticement of need
The harbor of hate
The desires of greed
America, the late.
Here's the Jason Leopold story saying Rove has told Bush he'll be indicted:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/ 051206Y.shtml
attaturk
Suddenly, my flu symptoms are bothering me a lot less.
On Jason Leopold:
See here.
Caveat emptor, in other words. I'd like confirmation from other sources before I pop the Champale.
Foggo: "Yeah, Trixi, bring the whole stable. We're gonna have a big crowd tonight."
All this data is anonymized.
Here's the Jason Leopold story saying Rove has told Bush he'll be indicted:
HOLYFUCKINGSHIT!
watertiger
And his sources were more than a dozen WH staff and two republicrook party insiders.
Wop bop a loo mop
alop bam BOOM!
The NSA spying program currently in place
would have prevented 9/11.
They couldn't even connect the dots between "Bin Ladin determined to strike in US" and "Tomorrow is zero hour." What makes you think a list of every phone call I've ever made to Barnes and Noble would have stopped hijackings in Boston?
By the way: they were spying before 9/11. Thanks for sucking.
The supreme court ruled that americans don't have an expectation of privacy with regard to phone records.
Therefore no 4th amendment issue.
This is why polls are showing americans aren't concerned with this issue.
jack
care to cite that case, bubba?
you have to be a parody because trying to connect a poll and the SCOTUS is wiggety wiggety wack. But I'd still be interested to see that SCOTUS case.
DWD, I'll buy your book if you tell me how you did that.
Richard,
In a previous life, jack was a pithed frog.
My opinion of Jim Lehrer and the News Hour has declined precipitously in recent years.
It seems to me that Lehrer may have had the same epiphany Dan Rather had when he burbled (I paraphrase) that if the President told him to do X, he'd salute and say, "Yes, sir!" To me, Lehrer actually diminished and devolved into a hack. Still competent and authoritative, but now... corporatized?
I was first turned on to MacNeil-Lehrer by one of those cool and gifted high school history teachers who included critical thinking and current events in his classes. And I think I was impressed with Lehrer as a savvy and good-humored interviewer and reporter. Remember, this was the first real "no-nonsense" national news show, or at least part of the original PBS lineup.
I saw him as incipiently subversive-- a maverick, even-- and a straight-shooting and authentic professional. Sort of like McCain, eh? It's hard to shake that settled perception.
So is it me, or has Jim Lehrer indeed become the Fat Elvis?
Lately, nothing, and on balance, with all the features it offers, we're not looking back.
pie
That's the way I feel about it. My voip is not perfection all the time, but it's pretty darn good. I'm really happy with it overall. I can live with the glitches.
My service was also able to port over my existing number (took a couple of weeks) and that also made it a great and painless transition.
Oh, another fun thing mine does is send you an MP3 of your voicemail to your email if you set it up that way. So just in case the line drops out for a moment you can always get your messages!
I loves me some VoIP!
I tried reading some Brautigan--highly reccommended by my somewhat chemically altered brother--and came away with the feeling that unless you were on the same drugs Brautigan was on when he wrote it, it might as well be the phone book.
Elmer, PHD
It wasn't drugs so much with him. And he wrote some great poems, as thus:
I walked across the park to the fever monument.
It was in the center of a glass square surrounded
by red flowers and fountains. The monument
was in the shape of a sea horse and the plaque read
We got hot and died.
Used to know the guy, actually.
Halfdan, what'd I do?
HOLYFUCKINGSHIT!
watertiger
My thought exactly.
Well I recommend hees poetry over hees prose.
Some of hees prose sucks the giant spiny one.
¡Koff! ¡Koff! Hawkline Monster ¡Koff! *SPLATT*!!!
*ahem*
so.
Rova Bend-Dova
(puts down umbrella to say) hey there!
Oh, it's Poetry Nite is it?
Oh, Mighty Fitz, oh, mighty mighty
Indict the fuck, indicty dicty
No Tena, I was just quoting a wingnut on the Jim Lehrer Report.
Tweety, the only "feverish activity" is when you and Ghouliani play strip poker.
Wop bop a loo mop
alop bam BOOM!
Little Richard
How's Daisy?
Do you know that you're quoting my favorite novel?
Pope Ratzo - 7:02 pm
No-- not until just now, that is.
It's certainly a favorite of mine. 
HOLYFUCKINGSHIT!
watertiger
My thought exactly.
I'm shocked, all right.
DWD you posted a poem with more than three blank lines.
Well, even Tweety's been making noises about Rove's indictment, so I don't think piling on Jason Leopold is entirely warranted.
Love you all, but I'm gone--into the streets. Enough talk. TV tonight has sent me over the edge. 9/11. Osama. Saddam. Mexicans. BULL FUCKING SHIT.
These BushCO bastards and their corporate enablers have got to go. Act now. Everything else is dope for suckers. ACT PLEASE.
Peace y'all.
Democrats will never win as long as these wingnuts can go on national television and just make shit up.
Nuts, I was NSA Agent, above...
Look, J. Leopold has had source problems before. He may be right as of now, but before we all fling off the panties let's just have a nice cool Busch Light. That's all I'm saying.
Oh, do keep the parisol up, dear. You don't want to get sunburn.
Heyji, EPDX.
¡Koff! ¡Koff! Hawkline Monster ¡Koff! *SPLATT*!!!
*ahem*
so.
¡El Gato Negro!
"Willard and His Bowling Trophies." That was appallingly bad. And kind of tragic, too.
I walked across the park to the fever monument.
It was in the center of a glass square surrounded
by red flowers and fountains. The monument
was in the shape of a sea horse and the plaque read
We got hot and died.
Used to know the guy, actually.
Phila
I can't help reading poetry like that in Garrison Keillor's voice. Too many Writers' Almanacs, I guess.
Morales attacks 'Western pillagers' at EU summit
A summit of European and Latin American countries was blown off course before it began yesterday as Bolivia's President claimed that nationalisation of energy resources was a natural reaction to five centuries of foreign pillaging.
At the start of the biggest diplomatic event in Austria since the Congress of Vienna, Evo Morales, the new Bolivian leader, defended a decision to bring natural gas resources under state control, saying foreign firms had "betrayed" Bolivia.
"For more than 500 years, our resources have been pillaged. This has to end now," he said at the beginning of a meeting expected to be dominated by energy and trade issues.
The Bolivian President said he was "not going to limit ourselves to oil resources", adding: "We are also to finish with huge land ownership, especially on unproductive lands."
"The Pill Versus the Springhill Mine Disaster", by Richard Brautigan
When you take your pill
it's like a mine disaster.
I think of all the people
lost inside of you.
I just heard the news on Mike Malloy...don't we trust Jason Leopold? New name to me.
Phila,
how do joo feel about "Troufishing in America"?
(the book, no the recreational activity)
eh?
I can't help reading poetry like that in Garrison Keillor's voice. Too many Writers' Almanacs, I guess.
Elmer, PHD
Oh well. Lots of other poems in the world, God knows.
I'll bet there are a lot of Republicans secretly rooting for Fitzgerald
Leopold's credibility aside, I'm going to wait for word from Fitz before I start to celebrate.
Leopold's credibility aside, I'm going to wait for word from Fitz before I start to celebrate.
I just called the local FBI office to alert them to Patterson's threat against Tice.
Not the Fox police, but still, I wouldn't want them knocking on my door.
Okay gotta run--la nina is waking from one hell of a nap. See you all later!
Haldan, dunno. It was my poem, I copied it out of the word processor and pasted it.
(Does that count, btw?)
I have had three wingnuts extol the virture of my very liberal (could have been written by ANYONE - not a troll - here if they had a year to waste) book. I hope they think a little.
The NSA spying program currently in place would have prevented 9/11.
So why didn't Bush pay attention to the August 6th PDB and push Congress to change the law making such a necessary program legal? Why did he fail to act?
Phila,
how do joo feel about "Troufishing in America"?
(the book, no the recreational activity)
eh?
¡El Gato Negro!
I like it, basically. I agree with you about the poetry, but I do like that one.
Which isn't to say that there aren't moods where it rubs me the wrong way. True of all his stuff, really, but the prose especially. And some of it just brings back bad memories...
Oh, it's Poetry Nite is it?
Oh, Mighty Fitz, oh, mighty mighty
Indict the fuck, indicty dicty
Elmer, PHD
¡Gracias!
¡Muy divertido!
so.
SEVENTY-FOURTH BIRTHDAY
What is new? I've been mortal all
my life. It's only that now I suspect
where I have lived is where I live.
Ancestors are many layers deep,
too deep, too many for me to count.
A voice in the cool of evening searches
through a faulted garden. It nags
at the eroding gravestones: "What
was your crime? "We were for many years
alive but at last got caught."
--Ernest Sandeen
El Gato -
I loved "Trout Fishing in America". Really, I'm crazy about all of Brautigan, but that one is a particular favorite.
No Tena, I was just quoting a wingnut on the Jim Lehrer Report.
jack
Some White House staffers said it's the uncertainty of Rove's status in the leak case that has made it difficult for the administration's domestic policy agenda and the announcement of an indictment and Rove's subsequent resignation, while serious, would allow the administration to move forward on a wide range of issues.
"We need to start fresh and we can't do that with the uncertainty of Karl's case hanging over our heads," said one White House aide. "There's no doubt that it will be front page news if and when (an indictment) happens. But eventually it will become old news quickly. The key issue here is that the president or Mr. Bolten respond to the charges immediately, make a statement and then move on to other important policy issues and keep that as the main focus going forward."
So the administration actually wants Rove indicted so they can move on? Watch out what you wish for boys, you just might get it.
So why didn't Bush pay attention to the August 6th PDB and push Congress to change the law making such a necessary program legal? Why did he fail to act?
Well, the database wasn't in place yet. Otherwise he would have immediately flown back to Washington and *personally* reviewed every single phone call ever made, looking for terrorists.
And he would have found them too, 'cause he has gumption.
(Or Gumpishness, I get them confused...)
Has Randi Rhodes reported the Rove has said he would be indicted? Anybody? Bueller?
That's all I'm saying.
Thers is the wise one.
( Good grief. I sound like Papa in I Remember Mama
eventually it will become old news quickly.
The Bush administration: Where language goes to die.
Feds search ex-CIA official's home
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Federal agents on Friday searched the home and office of the CIA's former third-highest ranking official who is under investigation because of ties to a figure in a congressional bribery scandal.
Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, who announced his retirement from the CIA on Monday, is being investigated by five agencies due to his long-standing friendship with defense contractor Brent Wilkes, an unindicted co-conspirator in the bribery case that landed former U.S. Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham of California in prison, officials said.
Foggo's lawyer was not immediately available for comment but Foggo, formerly executive director of the agency, has denied any wrongdoing.
Foggo had been appointed by CIA Director Porter Goss, who himself resigned a week ago. Administration officials were unhappy with Goss over publicity surrounding the Foggo case after his ties with Wilkes became public in March.
My favorite Brautigan is still "In Watermelon Sugar." Followed closely by "Trout Fishing."
Quite fanatical about Brautigan in high school. Read and re-read "The Abortion" over and over again. Mostly for the adolescent fantasy aspect of being a bookish type who got to sleep with Vida.
Hey, I was 16.
Nevermind... I need a drink...
The NSA spying program currently in place
would have prevented 9/11.
I've been wondering, would the Patriot act/NSA spy program have prevented any act of terrorism ever? Even one? All the way back to the first bus hijacked to Cuba? Frankly I have my doubts, and I'd love to see 'em try to show it.
Would it have stopped McVey? Oops, I forgot we're not supposed to mention him and terrorism in the same sentence. My bad.
I dislike poetry in general; it's effete. Most literature, as well.
And academics. Those people are jerks.
So the administration actually wants Rove indicted so they can move on? - Neponset
They're whistling past the graveyard.
Heads on pikes! Heads on pikes! Heads on pikes!
Good evening, bats! All done cheating on my wife.
How's tricks?
The NSA spying program currently in place would have prevented 9/11.
NOT!
Shields: Repubs think they may lose 30 seats in the House...
Leopold's credibility aside, I'm going to wait for word from Fitz before I start to celebrate.
The Old Man From Scene 24
The champers is in the fridge, but is as pure as K-Lo in her big flannel nightie: Untapped.
And academics. Those people are jerks.
Especially tenured academics.
Hey, I was 16.
Rmj, Hippie Wannabe
That's it, isn't it? I was so young when I gobbled up everything Brautigan.
I'd almost hesitate to read him again now. I wonder if he knew how he captured the fancy of the very young...
Sallyh, did you ever get your book back?
Thers, kind of figured that.
Thers is the wise one.
I am also winsome, in a manly way.
I dislike poetry in general; it's effete. Most literature, as well.
And academics. Those people are jerks.
I think I just had an orgasm.
Quite fanatical about Brautigan in high school. Read and re-read "The Abortion" over and over again. Mostly for the adolescent fantasy aspect of being a bookish type who got to sleep with Vida.
Some day, in a non-public forum, I'll have to tell you a couple of odd Brautigan stories.
atrios- the Bush solution to border control- repeal posse comitatus and send the guard there...
That's it, isn't it? I was so young when I gobbled up everything Brautigan.
Look on the bright side. Could have been Ayn Rand...
I am also winsome, in a manly way.
I'm more of a losesome kind of guy.
..as pure as K-Lo in her big flannel nightie: Untapped.
DemByDefault
Ack! Spewage! (literally)
Shields: Repubs think they may lose 30 seats in the House...
The Old Man From Scene 2
Oh, I won't get excited about that till after Halloween
Shields: Repubs think they may lose 30 seats in the House...
The Old Man From Scene 24
May they all lose their asses.
HICA!
I'm typing this on an ancient Toshiba laptop (Pentium I, 90MHz), Win95, 16MB/RAM, no USB, no CD-ROM... can't have more than two browsers runnin', even.
But... I'm kinda back!
.
I'm more of a losesome kind of guy.
Lonesome dove?
Tweety is such a little fucker
I dislike poetry in general;
No problem on my end: more for me.
it's effete.
I'll ask James Dickey to give you a call from the afterlife. If anyone could convince you otherwise, he could.
I am also winsome, in a manly way.
I'm more of a losesome kind of guy.
I'm situated somewhere between troublesome and bothersome.
Look on the bright side. Could have been Ayn Rand...
Thers, Cold Water
If she had, her comments would be a lot lengthier, and a lot less charming.
I encourage Bush apologists to push the line that the NSA program would have prevented 9/11. It only brings up the issues about Bush's complete lack of interest in terrorism, despite warnings from Clinton, Richard Clarke, and the infamous PDB.
They. Got. Nuthin'.
I am also winsome, in a manly way.
you do look fetching in that little sailor's hat with the ribbons down the back.
I suspect that our preznit's calling of the National Guard to the border, which will create riots all over the damned country probably, is just his way of creating more chaos and he will get his chance finally to declare martial law. Jeebus I hope I am just paranoid.
Where the fuck are we going to get up to 10,000 National Guardsmen to patrol the border?
Hey, suckers. Join the National Guard.
You'll see a border, all right.
Sand will be involved.
If the Truthout story is true, Rove resigning immediately upon the announcement would be doing Dubya a huge favor.
Lonesome dove?
This is what it sounds like when doves cry.
...but before we all fling off the panties let's just have a nice cool Busch Light. That's all I'm saying. | Thers, Cold Water - 7:27 pm
(looks down; blushes)
I demand to know how my post ended up on this site.
Gawd, I need a smoke.
you do look fetching in that little sailor's hat with the ribbons down the back.
watertiger
They call that kid a cracker jack!
And here I was already feeling pistol-whipped.... Good thing there's a weekend to rest up.
Look on the bright side. Could have been Ayn Rand...
Thers, Cold Water
er, well, um... there was Rand too. But I didn't want to crawl inside her books like I did Brautigan's. I mean, I wanted to eat every page. I wanted to live in his books. Ayn Rand - not so much.
and phila, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when you tell your Brautigan stories.
I have become cumbersome
in my old age
Nigeria pipeline blast kills up to 200 people
INAGBE BEACH, Nigeria (Reuters) - Up to 200 people were burned to death on Friday when an oil pipeline exploded on the outskirts of Lagos after thieves tapped into it to steal fuel.
The huge blast left about 100 blackened, unrecognizable corpses strewn across a beach where young men were siphoning fuel into jerry cans for sale on the black market.
The explosion burned everything within a 20 meter (60 foot) radius.
Only gray skulls and bones, incinerated to near powder, remained of the five people closest to the pipeline, which had been dug out of the sand and bore marks of drilling.
Look on the bright side. Could have been Ayn Rand...
While a teen I read "atlas shrugged".
The fucking in the book interested me, but I've never since been able to finish any other of her books.
I'll ask James Dickey to give you a call from the afterlife.
Ugh. What a hack.
Tucker bowtie, Joe Scaremonger and Rita missing white women discussing politics. Which one of these names is liberal again?
Blitzer has pose cvomitatus in test flight pattern on situation room...
Por nada, ¡El Gato Negro!
I'm situated somewhere between troublesome and bothersome.
It's a very short walk from losesome to loathesome.
I'm situated somewhere between troublesome and bothersome.
rorschach
Who were you cheating on Miriam with, anyway?
I demand to know how my post ended up on this site.
Zap Rowsdower
Aw, geez, Zap, now everybody will know you're a whore.
I encourage Bush apologists to push the line that the NSA program would have prevented 9/11.
It also is a lovely contrast to how under Clinton, the Millennium Plot was prevented. Without such a program. Odd, that.
repeal of posse comitatus* is the Bush 'soultion'
sounds like a final solution
"atrios- the Bush solution to border control- repeal posse comitatus and send the guard there...
Mr.Murder"
Gosh, Mr. Murder, you are paranoid, too, I hope.
Where the fuck are we going to get up to 10,000 National Guardsmen to patrol the border?
Hey, suckers. Join the National Guard.
You'll see a border, all right.
Sand will be involved.
pie
Waaaalllll, I kinda think they ain't gonna be from AZ or NM.... We've already done our bit. Maybe Michigan?
Who were you cheating on Miriam with, anyway?
Phila | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 7:41 pm | #
A fine question, that. I forgot to ask.
No Tena, I was just quoting a wingnut on the Jim Lehrer Report.
jack
Has it ever occurred to you, jack, to actually mention that you are quoting someone else when you post things out of the blue?
Do you think we all have the psychic powers of professor X and can see what's going on inside that peculiar brain of yours?
If Rove resigns, the neocons will take over.
WEEEE! ROVE GO POP!!!!!!
I'm so happy!!!!
You guys keep this up and I'll start on Robert W. Service.
Effete, feh.
Tweety, your so-called "hotshots" are twisted perverts. Try to put a few humans on your show for a change.
GWPDA, as nearly as I can tell a lot of people in Michigan need the jobs.
did any one mention the letters P D or B when Tweets started chirping about this program preventing 9/11?
I demand to know how my post ended up on this site.
John Aravosis namestole Zap.
If Rove resigns, the neocons will take over.
jack
-----
GOOD THAT WILL SPEED UP THE PROCESS!!!
If Rove resigns, the neocons will take over.
jack | 05.12.06 - 7:42 pm | #
Moron.
Who were you cheating on Miriam with, anyway?
Phila | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 7:41 pm | #
A fine question, that. I forgot to ask.
I didn't think it was that forgettable...
A fine question, that. I forgot to ask.
rorschach
Maybe it was Miriam in a wig.
so I take it Keith's ratings don't qualify him for "Hotshot" status. I wonder why.........
Bring me a shrubbery.
If Rove resigns Fitzgerald will let the whole trial file out and the public will try the Bushes in the court of opinion. Bad as the Fitz indictments will be, they cannot control it outside the sphere of court.
Lets say you know A called B Tuesday at 3:00pm and talked for 6 minutes then C called A Monday at 1:00pm and talked for 2 minutes.
How the hell does that roll up a terrorist cell? It doesn't. You would have to know if A, B or C were a terrorist otherwise you just have a bunch of call data.
If you don't know if A, B or C is a terrorist tracking their calls does nothing for you.
Now if you know A is a terrorist fine, track A's calls. The other 10s of millions of phone numbers won't help.
richard,
the source for wingnut talking points is unknown.
I didn't think it was that forgettable...
NTodd, Pervizzle | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 7:44 pm | #
I was just being discreet, sweetie.
a lot of people in Michigan need the jobs.
Someones got to protect us from those rampaging Canadians.
so I take it Keith's ratings don't qualify him for "Hotshot" status. I wonder why.........
DemByDefault
Perhaps they refer to a hot gooey shot in the face.
John Aravosis namestole Zap.
NTodd, Pervizzle
BTW: The "Bart's Inner Child" episode of the Simpsons is on right now...
"Food goes in here"
"It surrre does"
Perhaps they refer to a hot gooey shot in the face.
From Dick?
I don't wear no Stetson
But I'm willin' to bet son
That I'm as big a Texan as you are
There's a girl in her bare feet
Assleep on the back seat
And the trunk's full of Pearl beer and Lone Star
Couldn't find the Sesame Street Singing video, so I gave the girls a choice of a Bruce Sprigsteen or Robert Earl Keen DVD (both of which we've never seen--and I don't know if they've heard of either of 'em). Just based on the cover, they chose Robert Earl Keen.
WEEEE! ROVE GO POP!!!!!!
Ooh, that's gonna hurt!
Say, you gonna eat that piece if corndog there by your foot?
From Dick?
Eli
Naturally.
a lot of people in Michigan need the jobs.
Someones got to protect us from those rampaging Canadians.
Doug,
I for one will welcome our health insurance-having Canadian overlords.
Truthout.org has the story on Rove...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/
051206Y.shtml
HAPPY FITZMAS! OHMAHGUD!
BREAKING | Jason Leopold: Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/
051206Y.shtml
Karl Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him.
WEEEE! ROVE GO POP!
I'M SO HAPPYYYY!!!!!!!
so I take it Keith's ratings don't qualify him for "Hotshot" status. I wonder why.........
DemByDefault
Perhaps they refer to a hot gooey shot in the face.
LittlePig
Oh, and I made spewage with one innocent K-Lo metaphor?
Has threadbot been indicted?
Eli--what's this about a closet, a young woman, and not knowing her name?
the source for wingnut talking points is unknown.
jack
So the "wingnut on the Jim Lehrer Report" you claimed to have quoted doesn't exist?
Terry C, I am lucky enough to have my friends share their cottage in the Les Cheneaux Islands in Lake Huron with us for vacations. The area had a big reputation during prohibition as the locations to run booze into the US. Lots of islands, easy to hide, fast boats - wooden Chris Crafts - maybe it will be used by the terrorists?
HAPPY FITZMAS! OHMAHGUD!
No Fitzmas will be when Fitzgerald actually indicts Rove, and Rove actually resigns.
Tucker bowtie, Joe Scaremonger and Rita missing white women discussing politics. Which one of these names is liberal again?
Jack Welch is a very liberal kind of guy. I, for one, thank Allah every day that a liberal heads General Electric.
why do I get the feeling that Fitz, will be the good re pug and let Rove walk...
I for one will welcome our health insurance-having Canadian overlords.
Terry C, One of the 71%
Heard on NPR this morning the Canadian online pharmacies are fighting to keep business from Medicare Part D. They have set up toll free numbers where older folks can call and do a price comparision.
Per NPR, as a result the Canadian pharmacies are almost back up to pre-Part D rollout levels.
Bwahaha...undercutting Big Pharma's profits with the free market. Have a steaming slice of Adam Smith there, Georgie-boy!
Eli--what's this about a closet, a young woman, and not knowing her name?
Eh?
Rover...
Hey Rover...
Over here...
Good boy-
WHACK!
http://tinyurl.com/r4lpd
BTW: The "Bart's Inner Child" episode of the Simpsons is on right now...
"Food goes in here"
"It surrre does"
Zap Rowsdowe
Double your pleasure Springfield!!
AAaaarrgghh. That'll keep me warm, on those cold nights at sea!
Think Progress needs a new web server.
Every time Atrios links to their site, it crashes.
Has threadbot been indicted?
Patrick Fitzgerald IS threadbot!
robinhood would like to see rove head on pike.
Oh, I meant to throw this in last week. If anybody's really interested/desperate/keen on starting anew, take a look at www.phoenix.gov for City jobs. There are a whole slew of really, really fine jobs going wanting - and the City is a fine employer.
why do I get the feeling that Fitz, will be the good re pug and let Rove walk...
animal, Bush roadkill
my understanding is that lying to a prosecutor is like kicking a bear in the balls
Stop the presses! Matt Cooper wants to know if the latest scandal will finally turn the public against Bush.
Matt can ask this question with Bush approval polling at 29%? This must be what they mean by "the new jounalism."
.
NTodd -
Now you're *pervizzle*? I can't keep up!
robinhood happy.
Frog March Frog March Frog March.
The March of the May Frog will commence next week, I do believe.
I do I do, dear batses.
Okay, HAPPY FITZMAS EVE!
why do I get the feeling that Fitz, will be the good re pug and let Rove walk...
Because you haven't been paying attention.
Every time Atrios links to their site, it crashes.
And God kills a kitten.
An Update on President Bush's NSA Program: The Historical Context, Specter's Recent Bill, and Feingold's Censure Motion
By JOHN W. DEAN
President George Bush continues to openly and defiantly ignore the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) -- the 1978 statute prohibiting electronic inspection of Americans' telephone and email communications with people outside the United States without a court-authorized warrant. (According to U.S. News & World Report, the President may also have authorized warrantless break-ins and other physical surveillance, such as opening regular mail, in violation of the Fourth Amendment.)
"Soon after, President Bush authorized the National Security Agency to begin conducting electronic eavesdropping on terrorism suspects in the United States, including American citizens, without court approval. Meeting in the FBI's state-of-the-art command center in the J. Edgar Hoover Building, the lawyers talked with senior FBI officials about using the same legal authority to conduct physical searches of homes and businesses of terrorism suspects--also without court approval, one current and one former government official tell U.S. News. "There was a fair amount of discussion at Justice on the warrantless physical search issue," says a former senior FBI official. "
Patrick Fitzgerald IS threadbot!
NTodd, Pervizzle | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 7:50 pm | #
I am Spartacus!
Evening, freethinkers
TGIFFF !!
Waaaalllll, I kinda think they ain't gonna be from AZ or NM.... We've already done our bit.
People who get suckered into joining the National Guard for Mexican border patrol are suckers.
Waaaalllll, I kinda think they ain't gonna be from AZ or NM.... We've already done our bit.
People who get suckered into joining the National Guard for Mexican border patrol are suckers.
Is NTodd on a Neighborhood Pervizzle Watch List?
Okay, HAPPY FITZMAS EVE!
That's more like it
The champagne is chilled, but still in the fridge.
And God kills a kitten.
NTodd, Pervizzle | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 7:52 pm | #
I am God!
Now you're *pervizzle*? I can't keep up!
I'm like the wind, baby.
Stop the presses! Matt Cooper wants to know if the latest scandal will finally turn the public against Bush.
Matt can ask this question with Bush approval polling at 29%? This must be what they mean by "the new jounalism."
.
Al Swearengen
As long as there is Tweety Bukake, the public will be behind the Preznit.
No matter what those ol' liberal polls say.
The champagne is chilled, but still in the fridge.
I still have four Dr Peppers left.
I really think we are at the begining of a turning point. Hopefully it is a turning point taking back our country. One thing for sure we need to rethink our priorities. Who we are as a nation. We still have the Constitution and Bill of Rights that really have been battered by this group but it is still intacted and we still have a few hundred years of freedoms backing them up. Hopefully we can change shrubs course of a dictatorial usa.
Do you think we all have the psychic powers of professor X and can see what's going on inside that peculiar brain of yours?
Richard
Only thing going on in his brain are some bad drugs.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
How ya doin'?
Did you see Curly playing tetherbunny?
.
Eli--threadbot has been coopted by the NSA.
http://www.comcast.net/news/nati.../12/
390442.html
A whole 100 Minutemen.
Whoopty shit.
I better order a case of Moxie for Fitzmas.
Have to have it imported from Maine.
Although my son tells me my Southerner status may be revoked because I actually like the stuff.
How much you wanna bet Rove keeps his security clearance?
What a pity! Certified Assholes will have one less way of showing off their Assholeyness.
Eli--threadbot has been coopted by the NSA.
If that were true, wouldn't it be here all the time?
I still have four Dr Peppers left.
Eli
You softball jocks are still the same...
I'm so happy I'm going to clean the sink.
wait, I'll come in again.
They should turn Olbermann loose on the "hotshots" with a flyswatter.
Good evening, everybody. After reading that NYT article about the Foggo raid, my head is spinning. Nine Fingers, Dominican cigars, shoplifted bacon, even Carl Hiassen couldn't make this shit up.
How much you wanna bet Rove keeps his security clearance?
pigboy
Well, hell yeah. He's working on the campaigns, so he's going to need to see the phone pattern analysis on all the Democratic candidates.
I mean sheesh, Diebold can't carry the load all by themselves.
Good evening, everybody. After reading that NYT article about the Foggo raid, my head is spinning. Nine Fingers, Dominican cigars, shoplifted bacon, even Carl Hiassen couldn't make this shit up.
Shoplifted bacon???
I had no idea it was that serious.
The world's largest cruise ship has arrived in New York. According to CNN:
Standing upright on its bow, it would be taller than the Eiffel Tower.
It would also fall over.
my understanding is that lying to a prosecutor is like kicking a bear in the balls
IF fitz has the solid poop on numnuts kicking the bear in the balls...wheresit..
I had no idea it was that serious.
Eli
Sounds pretty ham-handed to me.
Hi Jeffraham Prestonian! How the hell are doing? Missed your comments lately.
If you don't know if A, B or C is a terrorist tracking their calls does nothing for you.
Now if you know A is a terrorist fine, track A's calls. The other 10s of millions of phone numbers won't help.
Pattern theory? Pattern recognition theory. Where's Sallyh, or some advanced programer here might be able to shed some light on this kind of data analysis.
Of course, they've probably established some templates already. They're probably just doing an overlay on all calls made in the USA over the past five years which is a staggering proposition when you consider the numbers involved.
The problem with templates is you can develop them to identify most anything, and likely will if allowed to continue unabated with such unauthorized datamining.
.
Jeffraham!!! Curly!!!
Headed over to watch right now!
sorry if someone has already asked, but
Where Are The HOOKERS?
there must be credit card receipts?
Pattern theory? Pattern recognition theory. Where's Sallyh, or some advanced programer here might be able to shed some light on this kind of data analysis.
Here's some background.
"(CNN) -- In a new poll comparing President Bush's job performance with that of his predecessor, a strong majority of respondents said President Clinton outperformed Bush on a host of issues.
Eat that trolls.
The Old Man From Scene 24"
Clinton was better than Chimpy in SO many things.
We've gone from a Rhodes Scholar to the village idiot.
Where Are The HOOKERS?
there must be credit card receipts?
Anonymous | 05.12.06 - 7:59 pm | #
Or cancelled checks
Al--there are a number of approaches they would probably employ--pattern recognition series, time sequence series, power series, Markov chains, come to mind immediately.
Shoplifted bacon???
Not beacon too! The horror...
Shoplifted bacon???
I never sausage a pack of criminals.
damn cookies. more HOOKERS, and more beatings.
let the beatings begin, again. or, if you prefer, let the beatings continue.
The NSA spying program currently in place
would have prevented 9/11.
jack
Sure it would, jack. You know, he got this bigass thing in writing in August of 2001 and you know what it was titled, jack:
BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN U.S.
How come that didn't get his attention?
I"m out - I"m going to go watch a DVD.
Ciao, batties. I only answered jack because I love pointing out that PDB every single chance I get.
"But in a little-noticed white paper submitted by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to Congress on January 19 justifying the legality of the NSA eavesdropping, Justice Department lawyers made a tacit case that President Bush also has the inherent authority to order such physical searches."
Clinton was better than Chimpy in SO many things.
We've gone from a Rhodes Scholar to the village idiot.
Yup. Its good to see that people are finally waking up to that fact.
Shoplifted bacon???
I had no idea it was that serious.
Horresco referens, Eli.
It's an aside in the Foggo FBI raid story
The man Mr. Goss first selected to become the C.I.A.'s executive director, Michael V. Kostiw, had to turn down the job when it surfaced in the news media that he had resigned from the agency in the 1980's after being caught shoplifting bacon.
Am I wrong about this?
Wasn't shrub claiming there was source in Iraq that confirmed there were WMD's before the war but would not reveal the sources name for fear he would be killed.
And wasn't this during the same time period he was outing Valerie Plame and Brewster Jennings Co. who really was doing work as a CIA spy?
Is it me or is Matthews suffering a conversion?
Bacon!!
Moxie is delicious- but PBS Newshour sucks.
Ray Suarez let a NSA lawyer hack get away w/ saying the phone #s have been "anonomized" & they only way they could get the names was by going to presnit Coocoo Bannanas & getting his permission.
Or by going to 411.com & hitting "reverse lookup.
Actually, now that I think about it -
Bush could have taken that PDB to the FISA court and gotten warrants to tap phones -
The standard is pretty loose for issuing warrants in that court - why didn't he bother to do that, jack?
Huh? Huh? You jackass
The man Mr. Goss first selected to become the C.I.A.'s executive director, Michael V. Kostiw, had to turn down the job when it surfaced in the news media that he had resigned from the agency in the 1980's after being caught shoplifting bacon.
Dang. The story I read mentioned shoplifting, but not bacon. Or else I somehow missed it...
Tweety complaining about the media being embedded with Bush?
OMFG.
is Tweety schizophrenic? "Cindy Sheehan, as far left as she is, is more representative of mainstream America than the media..."
what a putz. Jack Welch's boytoy.
"Or by going to 411.com & hitting "reverse lookup.
tomdurkin "
Somewhere in the NSA someone just said "Oops!"
Is it me or is Matthews suffering a conversion?
EkCenTriK
one quick towel snap from Commander Codpiece and he'll be seeing halos of Sunny Nobility again.
goodnight moonbats
"(CNN) -- In a new poll comparing President Bush's job performance with that of his predecessor, a strong majority of respondents said President Clinton outperformed Bush on a host of issues.
That was a typo. It should read:
"(CNN) -- In a new poll comparing President Bush's job performance with that of his predecessor, a strong majority of respondents said President Clinton outperformed Bush on a hostess.
Well, hell yeah. He's working on the campaigns, so he's going to need to see the phone pattern analysis on all the Democratic candidates.
I mean sheesh, Diebold can't carry the load all by themselves.
LittlePig | 05.12.06 - 7:56 pm | #
I know, once you get used to doing things one way it is hard to change.
pie
From your remark, then obviously I did observe an abnormality in his delivery.
Has he started citing Clinton as all that is good in the world yet?
Al Swearengen,
You would have to know which number belongs to a terrorist.
Nothing else matters unless you which number(s) belong to terrorist.
What's to match without a known terrorists number?
555-5555 calls 666-6666 3 times a week. So what?
Michael V. Kostiw, had to turn down the job when it surfaced in the news media that he had resigned from the agency in the 1980's after being caught shoplifting bacon.
Is that 5 pounds of bacon in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?
Oh dear, Albinos are now climbing on the victim bandwagon. We are fast running out of easy sterotypic villans.
Hasta luego moonbootica.
so.
Markov chains, come to mind immediately. - Sallyh, Long Knives Out
I love it when you talk dirty Sallyh.
Good link Phila.
.
You can pry my albino jokes from my cold white hands.
Time for Olbermann!
he starts with...29%!
Forgive me my misgivings, please.
dalliances
Oh for crying out loud. Just because we have massive evidence of fraud abuse and corruption, does not mean we are at a turning point. We are nowhere near truning anything but more fascist.
Even when rove gets marched out of the whitehouse (which will never be shown), the media is against freedom and democracy. They will spin this however the government wants. Rove will take a back seat, and someone almost as evil will replace him.
Make no mistake, this is not the turning point we are looking for.
MAYBE November will be, but even then, it will only be a start. Years,maybe even decades, will have to go by, before we see a real change.
he had resigned from the agency in the 1980's after being caught shoplifting bacon
Bacon, better than diamonds!
If I keep reading this blog long enough I am going to make a new T-Shirt.
"All I know about Spanish I learned from El Gato Negro"
Tweety is certifiable. A total loon.
Good for Olbermann pointing out the ABC poll containing a loaded question.
Moxie is delicious- but PBS Newshour sucks.
Ray Suarez let a NSA lawyer hack get away w/ saying the phone #s have been "anonomized" & they only way they could get the names was by going to presnit Coocoo Bannanas & getting his permission.
Or by going to 411.com & hitting "reverse lookup.
tomdurkin | 05.12.06 - 8:03 pm | #
What fucking crap. Now they are claiming presnit Coocoo Bannanas is the law of the land. King Coocoo Bannanas
Markov chains, come to mind immediately. - Sallyh, Long Knives Out
I love it when you talk dirty Sallyh.
Sexy!
President Clinton outperformed Bush on a hostess.
Shoplifted Bacon
Oh, please!
Has he started citing Clinton as all that is good in the world yet?
Sorry. We're also watching the Cleveland game, and I came into the kitchen and heard that.
Looking forward to the coming week.
John Dean On Countdown: he KNOWS scandals, he made some himself
A washington Post poll shows that 2/3's of americans find the NSA database 'acceptable'.
You would have to know which number belongs to a terrorist.
Nothing else matters unless you which number(s) belong to terrorist.
That is correct. If used as they claim it's used, it only would be useful retroactively, to gather evidence. Not to predict or prevent a terrorist attack.
How can you determine a pattern is "suspicious" unless you know the identity of the people on either end of the phone call?
John Dean reads Atrios and Think Progress
Sallyh,
If we asked her real nice, do you think we could get Boxer to sponsor a resolution to give Chicken Ceasar the titles of Sun King and Big Brother?
You would have to know which number belongs to a terrorist.
Nothing else matters unless you which number(s) belong to terrorist.
What's to match without a known terrorists number?
I made that exact point.
Spies, spies and damned spies!
What a crock of crap these people spew...
I'm sure someone posted this already, but just in case:
'Darko' Director Investigated Over "Terrorism Links"
Donnie Darko director Richard Kelly could be forced to miss the Cannes Film Festival because his passport is being reviewed by the US Government. Homeland Security is investigating 31-year-old Kelly, reportedly because there is a James Kelly on the terrorist watch list. Fearing he will be unable to attend the premiere of his new movie Southland Tales at Cannes later this month, Kelly has contacted a US senator and has recruited his mother to hunt out documents to help him prove his American citizenship. The Virginia-born writer/director fears the issue could be connected to the plot of his new movie, which is in part about security measures taken by the US Government following 9/11. He says, "The paranoid conspiracy freak inside me is starting to think this has something to do with the film."
Is it me or is Matthews suffering a conversion?
EkCenTriK
Tweety is just looking at Keith's numbers, and sweating.
John Dean: Bush has so outdone Nixon!
I'm just gonna burst in at 800-odd comments and ask HOW RELIABLE is this thing about Rove saying he's gonna be indicted? Oh, and hello!
"Tweety is just looking at Keith's numbers, and sweating.
Shoplifted Bacon"
I bet
Bush's poll numbers will rise on these NSA revelations.
In case anyone needs a shot of cute, I have Friday Cat and Dog Blogging.
John Dean reads Atrios and Think Progress
attaturk
Everybody reads Atrios, TP and GG.
You would have to know which number belongs to a terrorist.
Nothing else matters unless you which number(s) belong to terrorist.
Goes without saying, but there's little doubt they had samples to work from.
Consider, if they've got a record of every phone call made over the last five years, they long ago reconstructed Atta's and every other captured leaders phone history in effort to develop templates.
"Bush's poll numbers will rise on these NSA revelations.
jack "
The undead have arrived.
MAYBE November will be, but even then, it will only be a start. Years,maybe even decades, will have to go by, before we see a real change.
Who's we? And what kind of change are you looking for?
There has never been a better time to study the Constitution.
Silleigh: hello!
want to see a kitten?
http://kitten-picture.blogspot.com/
Al--Wilcoxon nonparametric criteria, characteristic function, Robbin's Inequality...
This, however, was Morin’s response not long ago in a Washington Post online chat:
Naperville, Ill.: Why haven’t you polled on public support for the impeachment of George W. Bush?
Richard Morin: This question makes me mad…
Seattle, Wash.: How come ABC News/Post poll has not yet polled on impeachment?
Richard Morin: Getting madder…
Haymarket, Va.: With all the recent scandals and illegal/unconstitutional actions of the President, why hasn’t ABC News / Washington Post polled whether the President should be impeached?
Richard Morin: Madder still…
(snip)
[W]e do not ask about impeachment because it is not a serious option or a topic of considered discussion –witness the fact that no member of congressional Democratic leadership or any of the serious Democratic presidential candidates in ‘08 are calling for Bush’s impeachment. When it is or they are, we will ask about it in our polls.
http://www.firedoglake.com/
In case anyone needs a shot of cute, I have Friday Cat and Dog Blogging.
Diane | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:11 pm | #
Cute!
Here's some more cute.
I hope a shit load of Americans begin civil litigation against the telecoms.
Wake up threadbot!
Off-topic (BREAKING!):
Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted
by Jason Leopold, Truthout.com
http://www.democraticunderground...p?az=view_all&
a ddress=364×1172571
http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/
051206Y.shtml
Al--Wilcoxon nonparametric criteria, characteristic function, Robbin's Inequality...
Sallyh, Long Knives Out
Tell me you were wearing the pumps when you wrote that sweetheart.
.
Bell's inequality is more important than Robbin's inequality.
"I hope a shit load of Americans begin civil litigation against the telecoms.
tbsa | 05.12.06 - 8:14 pm | # "
If we can just convince those folks who yak on the phone to hang it, we will hit their bottom line where it counts.
Al--I can put them on, if you'd like.
Tweety:I know I told everyone last night that the grand jury in the CIA leak investigation was going to meet today, and that we’d be devoting our entire show to the story tonight. And I know I went on Imus this morning and got everybody pumped. Sorry to say — we got punked. Our sources were wrong, we just read The Note and didn’t realize that the grand jury is scheduled to meet every Friday; whether they do or not is another thing. We apologize for getting everyone excited over nothing, our bad. We’d also like to thank Dusty Foggo for his profound bad judgment so we have something besides dead air for the next hour.
http://www.firedoglake.com/
This is going to sound like a dumb question, but how is Chimpy going to put National Guard on the border if they're all over in EYE-rack?
Or is this the excuse he uses to pull some of them OUT of EYE-rack?
Got to protect Murka against the brown people here first, you know.
Richard Morin: Madder still…
Morin SMASH!!!
Jack doesn't know jack. But you knew that.
I've gotta cat> for you, too...
Gotta go spent time w/ Zapette.
Peace!!
If we can just convince those folks who yak on the phone to hang it, we will hit their bottom line where it counts.
EkCenTriK | 05.12.06 - 8:15 pm | #
I'd volunteer to do so, but I'm already hung.
Al--I can put them on, if you'd like. - Sallyh, Long Knives Out
Followed by a Mobius Strip?
Here's some more cute.
rorschach
you're cheating.we saw those yesterday already. New one, new ones!
"Bush's poll numbers will rise on these NSA revelations.
jack "
And pigs will fly.
There is no good reason in the world for collecting info on every damn call made in the USA. There is no bad reason, there is no reason at all.
Why won't the "liberal media" do their jobs?
If we can just convince those folks who yak on the phone to hang it, we will hit their bottom line where it counts.
I checked the stocks today and they didn't really suffer. Monday may be a diff story. Though, AT&T had a nearly 5MM uptick in trades...
OH BOY IS THIS FUCKED UP....
Fox News Host On NSA Story: Wall Street Won’t Let A ‘Puny Little Traitor…Take Down Our Market’ »
The Dow was down 120 points today, prompting Fox News’ David Ruder to suggest it was because USA Today made “the country less safe” by running its story on NSA’s data mining.
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
http://www.thinkprogress.org/
Tell me you were wearing the pumps when you wrote that sweetheart
If Sallyh has had time to change, she's probobly wearing bunny slippers.
"I'm just gonna burst in at 800-odd comments and ask HOW RELIABLE is this thing about Rove saying he's gonna be indicted? Oh, and hello!"
--Silleigh, aka Furiousleigh
Hello, to you too. We know that he needs to be indicted, so I've crossed every appendage that I can think of hoping it will happen.
Hmmm meant yak on the phone in traffic.
Keith is going to have soooooooo much fun with Tony Snow, only Holden will have more.
Worst Person in the world predition -- John Gibson.
Rova--whatever. It's Friday night.
Anything goes.
Lisa Myers: Sources say the case goes beyond Foggo with more indictments to come.
Farkin' tags...
And still more catblogging!
Al--I can put them on, if you'd like.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out
I was just looking to add to the thrill of the moment. Better that you should be comfortable. I'm thinking whiskered bunny slippers.
This administration is unravelling faster than a Mall-Wart sweater...
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If we can just convince those folks who yak on the phone to hang it, we will hit their bottom line where it counts.
EkCenTriK
No question about that, but it's not going to happen. The next best thing is to hit them where they live, the bottom line for these fuckers is their pocketbooks.
And what kind of change are you looking for?
I'm looking for a change in attitude that has blinded so many people towards letting this government stal the heart of democracy. It's the only way this country can get over the fascism that has invaded. Except via catacylismic disaster.
And in that note, I just got an emergency call, and have to split.
Everybody reads Atrios...
I don't.
Al--I am wearing shorts, if that helps.
Plum, lovely kittens!
(Want one? I got one here pissin' me off right now...)
I ate so much shrimp pasta at dinner Ican hardly move.
There has never been a better time to study the Constitution.
jack
There has never been a better time to defend the Constitution.
You can always read it later.
NSA
Dukestir
Delay
Rove
Scooter
Iraq
The Economy
Another Hurrican season
Democrats take 50 seats.
And so this is Fitzmas,
And what have you done?
One scumbag indicted -
Ten more on the run!
And so Happy Fitzmas -
I know you'll have fun
Watching Karl sweat bullets -
The party's just begun!!!
Damn, where is threadbot when we need it?
Washington Week had the cast playing the RNC/WH talking points to near perfection. Also going big time on the WaPoop poll saying Merkins, 2 to 1, favor having their call records recorded by the government in order to defeat the terrists.
DKos has a diary explaining the poll is really a push poll--by a major MCM outlet!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...5/12/10481/
1427
The question prior to the one getting all the attention sets it up as a false dichotomy: Do you value your safety or your privacy?
Check it out--what's your take?
In case anyone needs a shot of cute, I have Friday Cat and Dog Blogging.
I, of course, have Soon-to-be-abandoned-Samblogging.
Everybody reads Atrios...
I don't.
NTodd, Windizzle™
I just read the comments. Does that count?
down the job when it surfaced in the news media that he had resigned from the agency in the 1980's after being caught shoplifting bacon.
Must have been Canadian back bacon - the only kind worth stealing.
more kittens
http://www.dailykitten.com/archi...17-
Presley.html
Or is this the excuse he uses to pull some of them OUT of EYE-rack? Terry C.
I theenk joo may have thees backwards...
I theenk eet may be a way for trick young minutemen-wannabes eento joining, by telling them they weel be guarding the Arizona border...
and then Ay Presto! they are guarding the Iraq/Iran border.
so.
What did I miss?
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
Oh, Christ on a cruth. Will the next Atriosian to see this woman on the street please slap her comatose.
I encourage Bush apologists to push the line that the NSA program would have prevented 9/11.
It also is a lovely contrast to how under Clinton, the Millennium Plot was prevented. Without such a program. Odd, that.
NTodd, Pervizzle | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 7:41 pm
Plus they passed along warnings to the public.
I theenk eet may be a way for trick young minutemen-wannabes eento joining, by telling them they weel be guarding the Arizona border...
and then Ay Presto! they are guarding the Iraq/Iran border.
so.
¡El Gato Negro
You may be right.
Number 909.
That was a cool tune on Let It Be.
One After 909.
And what kind of change are you looking for?
Under Bush the Bush administration?
Spare change. And shoplifting bacon.
...meanwhile, across the D.C.area, presidential aides were seen to be ravaging grocery and pharmacy shelves and seemed to be in great haste. All anyone knows is that popular antacids such as Tums and Rolaids are not to be found. In the meantime a blackmarket operation has popped up dealing with medications such as Pepsid, Nexium and others.
I, of course, have Soon-to-be-abandoned-Samblogging.
NTodd, Windizzle™
why?
'Roehrkasse points out that Justice Department lawyers have told Congress that the NSA program "described by the president does not involve physical searches." But John Martin, a former Justice Department attorney who prosecuted the two most important cases involving warrantless searches and surveillance, says the department is sending an unambiguous message to Congress. "They couldn't make it clearer," says Martin, "that they are also making the case for inherent presidential power to conduct warrantless physical searches."'
I theenk eet may be a way for trick young minutemen-wannabes eento joining, by telling them they weel be guarding the Arizona border...
and then Ay Presto! they are guarding the Iraq/Iran border.
so.
¡El Gato Negro! | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:21 pm | #
Eh. Deserts, brown people... They'll never notice.
pigboy, Fox news can only cover up the shit for so long. When the sceptic tank is overflowing, everyone will have to smell it, whether they want to or not.
I just read the comments. Does that count?
I don't even read the comments. I just come here to blogwhore and hear myself talk.
EGN got it!
Atrios must have gone out to dinner and let threadbot tag along again.
Mer, I've got lots of stuff crossed but it makes it hard to type, and how long is this going to interfere with my sex life anyway???
Tony Snow muck up on now.
And change your last name, geek stink breath.
one time i smoked an entire bunch of banannas peels and all
Is it me or is Matthews suffering a conversion?
EkCenTriK
It's just time to hit the reset button again. He'll be his old self by monday.
Al--I am wearing shorts, if that helps.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out
I'm like where this is going...
What else, or is that all?
.
I theenk eet may be a way for trick young minutemen-wannabes eento joining, by telling them they weel be guarding the Arizona border...
and then Ay Presto! they are guarding the Iraq/Iran border.
I think you're right.
Oh that damn Tony Snow, he's so lovably incompetent that we'll give him a break.
Just like we did with the President -- and look how that worked out.
Tony Snow: honest? Ha!
I, of course, have Soon-to-be-abandoned-Samblogging.
NTodd, Windizzle™
why?
Because I'm heading to the Big Apple!
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
Oh, Christ on a cruth. Will the next Atriosian to see this woman on the street please slap her comatose.
Rova Bend-Dova | 05.12.06 - 8:21 pm | #
Did she scream rant and rave or what? I don't know what she did before fox but I think she should apply for work with Nancy Grace..... speaking of ranting CSPAN is on in the back ground and they are really ranting and raving over border security. Nuts all of em.
Have we won yet?
It's starting to feel a little like we're getting the drop on Bush's mind-slaves.
Fox News has been number 1 for five years.
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
Are the apologists getting a little nervous after a couple of bad days for the market. For people like Butner the market is the beginning, the middle, and the end of the story.
Atrios must have gone out to dinner and let threadbot tag along again.
With the amount that Soros pays him, he should be able to order takeout.
Plum, lovely kittens!
(Want one? I got one here pissin' me off right now...)
Silleigh
sadly, my Henriette hates other cats, totally anti-social to them. so i look at pretty kitten pictures for a fix
Tony Snow---the Harriet Myers of press secretaries.
pigboy, Fox news can only cover up the shit for so long. When the sceptic tank is overflowing, everyone will have to smell it, whether they want to or not.
mer | 05.12.06 - 8:22 pm | #
Oh yeah, this is just what happend as ENRON was going down and networks were giving nothing but glowing news for the stock market.
pigboy, Fox news can only cover up the shit for so long. When the sceptic tank is overflowing, everyone will have to smell it, whether they want to or not.
mer | 05.12.06 - 8:22 pm | #
Oh yeah, this is just what happend as ENRON was going down and networks were giving nothing but glowing news for the stock market.
I just cancelled BellSouth land service, after cancelling Verizon wireless last night. Went with Working Assets wireless. If they whore out too we'll do without a phone. Fuck the corporations--they're running the country, as you know.
Peace out
The President is going to use this case to say everything is cool.
1979 Supreme Court case, Smith v. Maryland, in which justices said the acquisition of basic phone records -- time, date, to, from, length of call -- is not a "search" under the Fourth Amendment and that individuals do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in such data.
Richard Morin. Moron than in.
Fox News has been number 1 for five years.
I do a Number 2 every morning.
My wife, Eastern European beauty that she is, happens to be a Mathematician who specializes in this type of pattern recognition and something called "combinatorics".
I don't understand even a little bit of it, but she says the idea that the NSA is going to determine a certain type of calling pattern is "terrorist" is completely goofy. There are probably thousands of perfectly ordinary situations that would create similar calling patterns.
She agrees with the poster above who said none of it is any good without knowledge of who the terrorists are.
Now, she also says that they might just be doing research to determine what "normal" call patterns look like in the hope that terrorists will do something different, but that's like making a sculpture by chiseling off anything that doesn't look like an elephant.
Stopping terrorism will still come down to human intelligence. It's a weakness of the mind of a neocon that they want every solution to be something that can be turned into a contract that can be given to a favoured company.
What are they doing to Phillip Seymore Hoffman?
Later, good folkses. Off to see if honorable auntie finally got the shopping list done.
Flu schmu. I'm fed up with it.
I blogwhored ny nudibranchs already, didn't I? Maybe it's naptime...
Unrepentant Fenian,
And you know - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that this is all that they are doing?
(I have some property my great-uncle left me in Florida. It is right on the beach and a hell of a bargain at just 30K for 100 feet of frontage . . . .)
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
Now that's what I like to see. Whoo hoo hoo!
*** Fox News has been number 1 for five years. ***
average viewers: 71 years old.
Fox News demographic is dying out...
Oh that damn Tony Snow, he's so lovably incompetent that we'll give him a break.
I didn't see the gaggle. I heard on the radio that he said "the whole thing's a mess", but I didn't get the context. I don't think one is needed, though.
Someone introduce fauxnews to US history, please.
I'm resting currently.
"180 sounds like a good cholesteral number unless it's crept up over time." Then it wouldn't be 180 now would it? Douchebags!
I don't even read the comments. I just come here to blogwhore and hear myself talk.
NTodd, Windizzle™
I should get a blog to whore. Nah... too much like work.
one time i smoked an entire bunch of banannas peels and all
jack shit
I think Jack slipped on those banana peels, banged his head and just thinks he smoked them..
them they weel be guarding the Arizona border...
and then Ay Presto! they are guarding the Iraq/Iran border.
Here's a hint. When you fly out of the Chicago airport? You should be going -southwest-. If you find you're going -southeast- you may have a problem. Also, the Tohono O'odham tend to look like this and do not wear burqas or headcloths.
the idea that the NSA is going to determine a certain type of calling pattern is "terrorist" is completely goofy.
Exactly, nothing to worry about.
That's why polls show americans don't mind.
Stopping terrorism will still come down to human intelligence. It's a weakness of the mind of a neocon that they want every solution to be something that can be turned into a contract that can be given to a favoured company.
Pope Ratzo
Well, Poindexter and the DARPA crowd love these big, insoluble problems that you can throw money at for years...especially if it's a black budget program, like this one. Look at SDI.
average viewers: 71 years old.
Fox News demographic is dying out...
Plum P
It's on life support! Pull the plug!
OK, I've had one cocktail now.
I'm only going to say this once: All that "Alex Jones Prison Planet" stuff doesn't seem all that crazy any more.
But if I ever mention the council on foreign relations, please put me out of my misery.
BTW
IT'S YOUR MONEY!
sometimes when i squeeze my balls real tight i see stars
Pope Ratzo: impressive wife you got there!
Exactly, nothing to worry about.
That's why polls show americans don't mind.
jack | 05.12.06 - 8:30 pm | #
Moron.
sometimes when i squeeze my balls real tight i see stars
jack shit
Who? Tom Cruise?
Bart Simpson is a Scientologist?
You know, jack. It's not even the plan itself that scares me, it's the fact that the Bush Administration wants to do it outside of the law and with absolutely no oversight.
That's a red flag that they're doing something wrong.
I mean, if they're not doing anything wrong, what are they trying to hide?
Hasta luego, murcielagos.
so.
It's on life support! Pull the plug!
Shoplifted Bacon
No, don't! Its eyes are following the balloon!
It's on life support! Pull the plug!
Shoplifted Bacon
No, don't! Its eyes are following the balloon!
Exactly, nothing to worry about.
That's why polls show americans don't mind.
jack
If Americans don't mind about any aspect of the war on terra, then, of course, there is no war on terra.
Tony Snow said "the whole thing's a mess" ?
Is he freaking out?
Oh KEITH!!!!
for reals?????????/
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/
...id=aVreBEdY.5cg
Market only down 120? How's metals?
Bart Simpson is a Scientologist?
Monica_A: Bon Vivant
yes it's true
It's on life support! Pull the plug!
Shoplifted Bacon
No, don't! Its eyes are following the balloon!
Phila | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:33 pm | #
Sounds like we need to get Frist on the case, stat!
Wooooo Hooooo
2 more fucking years, then I can sell my company and move to Tahiti. I hope the U.S. can stay intact for that long.
Tony Snow said "the whole thing's a mess" ?
Is he freaking out?
Balzac
nice first day, eyh?
And that's why I'm a "Family Guy" fan.
This is fucked:
May 8 (Bloomberg) -- Li Yong, China's vice minister for finance, said he had heard a ``rumor'' that the U.S. dollar was headed for a 25 percent drop. If the gossip was true, the consequences would be ``shocking,'' he said.
after cancelling Verizon wireless last night.
THIS is partly why I have been asking the annoying telco questions. What I think I'm hearing is that Verizon Wireless was not involved in the NSA stuff, and that VW is a different company than Verizon.
I have totally limited access options out here; Verizon DSL is it for broadband, and my phone is tied up with that. This is so damn confusing.
Bart Simpson is a Scientologist?
Monica_A: Bon Vivant
Great piece on Scientology by Michael Shermer in Rolling Stone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/
poli...ide_scientology
Is this old news already?
Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted
Sneaking up on 1000 posts.
I wonder how long will Bush's summer vacation be with numbers like 29%...
Stopping terrorism will still come down to human intelligence. It's a weakness of the mind of a neocon that they want every solution to be something that can be turned into a contract that can be given to a favoured company.
Pope Ratzo
I don't think every act of terrorism can be prevented, no matter what steps you take. I think this administration knows this. I think they are just using the threat for political reasons, as they have since almost day one. Americans may just have to accept that or consider a more sane foreign policy with less blowback.
"If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone."
Michael Corleone
The GodFather
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
Aw, fuck, the fraidy-cat loot-oriented free marketeers'll take the market down any time they feel like it (then blame it on the Clenis or something), and all the Faux natiionalismo in the world won't stop 'em. You clean up a bunch of Anarchists, put 'em in suits, put the economy of the country in their hands, don't be surprised when they drop it and break it.
Is this old news already?
Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted
Litz
Never.
Is this old news already?
Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:35 pm | #
Yes but it is still good news.
Silleigh,
Verizon Wireless was NOT involved (thank god). I was all set for a fight with them.
Shaw K!
My wife, Eastern European beauty that she is, happens to be a Mathematician who specializes in this type of pattern recognition and something called "combinatorics". - Pope Ratzo
And I had had to study filmmaking...
Doubtless they're fishing. Since they have the best minds and toys to work with, it's hard to say what they're capable of.
Since communication networks are involved, networks established through procedural training, how could they be anything but recognizable as patterns, assuming they've established precedent patterns for the network, which they surely have given their level of access to data and "rendered" information from leadership?
Yes but it is still good news.
So, are we uncorking the champagne, or are we waiting for the actual frog march?
I think the dollar is headed for more than a 25 percent drop. Investors around the world are seeing formerly healthy and growing America becoming a paranoid wonderland of secret prisons and torturers.
When Iran starts selling oil for Euros, the dollar will turn to shit, and the incredible deficits that Bush has given us will turn into a real national security nightmare because the world will stop financing our stupidity.
Bush is a danger to this nation. He is our biggest national security threat.
I don't think every act of terrorism can be prevented, no matter what steps you take. I think this administration knows this.
Was it the willie pete, or the slew of 1,000 pound bombs dropped here and there over heavily populated areas?
Frankly Mr. Cruise, I'd call Tom Hanks.
Silleigh - cable modem companies have had nothing to do with the current fiasco. Cox, Comcast, whatever - I mean, they're scum, but not scum in the current situation. Then, with cable modem access, you can piggyback with Vonage for Voice Over IP telephone service. Again, there are some political issues, but not involving the current problems.
I wonder how long will Bush's summer vacation be with numbers like 29%...
Plum P
He'll make sure he's too drunk to care.
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed
It's Buttner. I like any Brenda named Buttner.
sometimes when i squeeze my balls real tight i see stars
hee! I like it when you see *sparkles*.
Can I just say, Chloe Sevigny is teh hot!
Verizon Wireless was NOT involved (thank god). I was all set for a fight with them.
The Fella told me last night that I could drop Bad-Verizon, get a Verizon Wireless phone, and get wireless broadband over a laptop. It'd be hella expensive. OTOH, I could be doing this with my ass comfortably ensconced on the couch.
The Fella works for Verizon Wireless, and I imagine he's hearing some interesting stuff these days. He seemed a bit grumpy about it last night.
On Olbermann, they're talking about the high-pressure recruitment of celebrities that the Cof$ does ... it's true, even here in Nashville one of their stupid "Celebrity Centres" is on Music Row. I never see anyone there, though. It's like, people, this is the buckle of the Bible belt. They don't call Nashville the Protestant Vatican for nothing. Give it up, already.
You can't be a cult here unless you're a Christian-Republican one.
Frankly Mr. Cruise, I'd call Tom Hanks.
I'd call Tom Arnold before I'd call Tom Cruise.
Wow, Katie Holmes really is that empty.
Verizon's name was involved. That's enough for me. It's all about BRANDING!
Ask BushCo and the rest of the "people of faith." Fuck it all.
Al, finding the patterns and determining what the patterns mean are two different things.
Or so I'm told.
My degrees are in literature, so I don't really know shit except how to enjoy a good book.
But I'll tell you, when I see my wife with the math books and the equations and what not, it makes me hot. She puts those glasses on and I'm putty.
Yes but it is still good news.
So, are we uncorking the champagne, or are we waiting for the actual frog march?
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:38 pm | #
It depends on what blog you are reading some say wait, others say party on.......... it's friday so you can't go wrong uncorking the champagne anyway.
Phila, I see you picked up on that Surviviball thing. Did you see where someone infiltrated a conference while masquerading as Halliburton reps to give a presentation on it?
And the Yes Men have struck again. On Tuesday, a man claiming to be a representative for the company Halliburton gave a presentation at the "Catastrophic Loss" conference at the Ritz-Carlton in Amelia Island, Florida. The conference included leaders from the insurance industry. The phony spokesperson gave his name as Fred Wolf. He told conference-goers Halliburton had invented the SurvivaBall -- a new orb-like inflatable product to protect corporate managers from the effects of global warming. Wolf said: “It's essentially a gated community for one.”
Somewhere, Abby Hoffman is ROTFL
May 8 (Bloomberg) -- Li Yong, China's vice minister for finance, said he had heard a ``rumor'' that the U.S. dollar was headed for a 25 percent drop. If the gossip was true, the consequences would be ``shocking,'' he said.
pigboy
when Bush started, the canadian dollar was worth 67% of the american dollar, now it's 91%, that's 24% more people!That is very bad for the USA. The canadian economy is booming compared to yours. But sadly, so much of our economy is linked to yours, if you crash, we crash too.
Terrorism is just one tactic in the toolbox.
You can't make war with a tactic in a toolbox.
Unless it's the only tool in the toolbox.
GWPDA: No cable out here, or I'd have it from the evil Time-Warner.
He told conference-goers Halliburton had invented the SurvivaBall -- a new orb-like inflatable product to protect corporate managers from the effects of global warming. Wolf said: “It's essentially a gated community for one.”
I belong to the "Yes Men" -- they just don't know it.
Terrorism is just one tactic in the toolbox.
You can't make war with a tactic in a toolbox.
Unless it's the only tool in the toolbox.
jack | 05.12.06 - 8:42 pm | #
You can't make a point with only one inept metaphor in the metaphorbox.
I cannot describe how much I don't care if the Christian conservatives are experiencing some sort of growing pains/metamorphosis type deal right now. Can you guys leave go of my government while you sort out your afterlife theories?
These Scientologists are fucking crazy!
once i dropped a toolbox on my foot and saw god
So, are we uncorking the champagne, or are we waiting for the actual frog march?
Why not both?
More interesting Rove speculation from Truthout.org
Verizon's name was involved. That's enough for me. It's all about BRANDING!
I did mention to Fella last night that VW ought to consider a name change and that this would be awfully hard to explain to most customers.
Pope, did you try Challenge or not? (I cannot remember)
it's friday so you can't go wrong uncorking the champagne anyway.
I'll compromise and uncork a bottle of sauvignon blanc...
wooo hooo they're all going down!
I cannot describe how much I don't care if the Christian conservatives are experiencing some sort of growing pains/metamorphosis type deal right now. Can you guys leave go of my government while you sort out your afterlife theories?
Max Planck | 05.12.06 - 8:44 pm | #
I wish Howard Dean would quit trying to pander to them...
Phila has a picture of the Survivaball on his blog.
But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
(Tsk tsk - why is she talking about the preznit that way?)
Trust in George Bush. He is a man of God.
I think the dollar is headed for more than a 25 percent drop. Investors around the world are seeing formerly healthy and growing America becoming a paranoid wonderland of secret prisons and torturers.
When Iran starts selling oil for Euros, the dollar will turn to shit, and the incredible deficits that Bush has given us will turn into a real national security nightmare because the world will stop financing our stupidity.
Bush is a danger to this nation. He is our biggest national security threat.
Pope Ratzo | 05.12.06 - 8:38 pm | #
They will take us down for all the decades of interefernce in their affairs and they will not have had to fire a shot in anger. While Herr Shrub will be shooting himself and this nation in the foot......
Old news, I guess. Sorry. Hard to be fresh after 9,495 posts.
Can I just say, Chloe Sevigny is teh hot!
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:41 pm | #
Are you watching her on "Big Love"?
Its all about one man and three wives.
I think two of the wives are teh hot, but then again I only mate every seven years so I might need some extra women to go around.
I cannot describe how much I don't care if the Christian conservatives are experiencing some sort of growing pains/metamorphosis type deal right now. Can you guys leave go of my government while you sort out your afterlife theories?
Max Planck | 05.12.06 - 8:44 pm | #
I wish Howard Dean would quit trying to pander to them...
rorschach
My daughter said she is SO disappointed in him for that.
Al, finding the patterns and determining what the patterns mean are two different things.
Agreed, but they have the tools necessary to transcribe and review virtually every possible suspect communication, and have for well over a decade, which is my point.
But I'll tell you, when I see my wife with the math books and the equations and what not, it makes me hot. She puts those glasses on and I'm putty. - Pope Ratzo
Just when I thought I'd gotten Sally out of my mind, you drag me back. Pumps, probability and tick, tack, toe. That's what I'm thinking.
.
Terrorism is not a 'tactic'.
Bush is a danger to this nation. He is our biggest national security threat.
Pope Ratzo
He's a danger to the world.
I wish Howard Dean would quit trying to pander to them...
rorschach
That one needs 'splainin, and right now. What a supremely unnecessary blunder.
Are you watching her on "Big Love"?
Its all about one man and three wives.
I think two of the wives are teh hot, but then again I only mate every seven years so I might need some extra women to go around.
spocko | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:46 pm | #
I think all three are teh hot.
But I tried the multiple-partner thing, and it drove me nuts...
I wish Howard Dean would quit trying to pander to them...
rorschach
mee too, Dean on the 700 watt club is a BIG turnoff. Actually i'm not impressed by Dean anymore
You can't make a point with only one inept metaphor in the metaphorbox.
rorschach
It occurred to me upon reading jack's 'verse' that he is toking on some potent boo.
Terrorism is not a 'tactic'.
jack
Neither is stupidity.
Shut the fuck up, jack!
"...saying that Wall Street would “not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.”
Well sweetie, something did. What, down 260 in two days?
I suspect USA Today had little to do with it.
They are chanting "GO TO HELL" on cspan they want mixed race citizens to leave........ yeah.... maybe he should leave instead..... go to hell yourself asshole........
GWPDA: No cable out here, or I'd have it from the evil Time-Warner.
Silleigh, aka Furiousleigh
You know, i hear stuff like this, and I flash to a couple places in absolutely back of beyond backwoods Canada - I mean utterly away. Both come equipped with high speed, fibre optic connexions provided as part of the public utility by the Province - both have cable TV to the door, both have satellite dish access as alternatives - public utility versus the free market. What a deal.
Wow, Katie Holmes really is that empty.
Honestly, I am so heartsick to see what's happened to her. I don't think she used to be empty, until she discovered Tom and the Cof$. Honestly, "Pieces of April" was a great, heartfelt performance, and I never took her for a Hollywood bimbette. They got her at a vulnerable time, pyschologically, and now she's gone for good.
one time i ate forty-three boxes of wintergreen tic-tacs and when i peed it was minty fresh
Terrorism is not a 'tactic'.
Yes it is. It's not strategic--simply a weapon in 4GW.
Iran Sought Advice in Pakistan on Attack
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20060...akistan_nuclear
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan's former army chief says Iranian officials came to him for advice on heading off an attack on their nuclear facilities, and he in effect advised them to take a hostage — Israel.
Retired Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg said he suggested their government "make it clear that if anything happens to Iran, if anyone attacks it — it doesn't matter who it is or how it is attacked — that Iran's answer will be to hit Israel; the only target will be Israel."
Since Beg spoke in an interview with The Associated Press, echoes of his thinking have been heard in Iran, though whether they result directly from his advice isn't known.
Mohammad Ebrahim Dehghani, an Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander, was quoted last week as saying that if "America does make any mischief, the first place we target will be Israel." The threat was disavowed the next day by Brig. Gen. Alireza Afshar, deputy to the chief of Iran's military staff, who said it was Dehghani's "personal view and has no validity as far as the Iranian military officials are concerned."
And on Tuesday, Israel's vice premier, Shimon Peres, warned that "Those who threaten to destroy are in danger of being destroyed."
In the AP interview that took place several weeks before these threats were exchanged, Beg said a delegation from the Iranian Embassy in Pakistan had come to his office in January, seeking advice as Western pressure mounted on Iran to abandon its nuclear effort. Beg said he offered lessons learned from his experience dealing with India's nuclear threat.
He said he told the Iranians, whom he did not identify, that Pakistan had suspected India of collaborating with Israel in planning an attack on its nuclear facilities. By then, Pakistan had the bomb too. But both countries had adopted a strategy of ambiguity, he said, and Pakistan sent an emissary to India to warn that no matter who attacked it, Pakistan would retaliate against India.
I wish Howard Dean would quit trying to pander to them...
rorschach
mee too, Dean on the 700 watt club is a BIG turnoff. Actually i'm not impressed by Dean anymore
Plum P
Shhhhh!
You'll have fy/xa in here.
Yeah. And many people here criticized me for calling Dean on that bullshit earlier today...
I just don't understand what he thinks he has to gain...
Terrorism would be a 'tactic' for the CIA or the Army.(because they have other options)
For the terrorists, it's all they got, and therefore strategic.
better correct that....
But I'll tell you, when I see my wife with the math books and the equations and what not, it makes me hot. She puts those glasses on and I'm putty. - Pope Ratzo
Just when I thought I'd gotten Sally out of my mind, you drag me back. Pumps, probability and tick, tack, toe. That's what I'm thinking.
better correct that....
But I'll tell you, when I see my wife with the math books and the equations and what not, it makes me hot. She puts those glasses on and I'm putty. - Pope Ratzo
Just when I thought I'd gotten Sally out of my mind, you drag me back. Pumps, probability and tick, tack, toe. That's what I'm thinking.
Terrorism would be a 'tactic' for the CIA or the Army.(because they have other options)
For the terrorists, it's all they got, and therefore strategic.
jack | 05.12.06 - 8:49 pm | #
Wrong again.
What a deal.
::sulk::
I live about 5 miles away from the Tampa airport. No damn cable.
Snow-whitey
tic-tacs are not terrible or terrific
mmmmmm...
Tayberry daiquiris. Come and get one.
This report reminds me, ladies I'm housebroken. I'll only go in the yard.
Turk, must be related to Kinkaid?
This report reminds me, ladies I'm housebroken. I'll only go in the yard.
attaturk | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:51 pm | #
Why don't we do it in the road?
this thread started 4 HOURS ago, where's that damn threadbot?
This report reminds me, ladies I'm housebroken. I'll only go in the yard.
how often do you dig under the fence?
Therefore the war on terror is a real war.
Trust in George Bush. He is a man of God.
Billy Graham
Makes me happier than ever that I am an atheist.
threadbot only works in the morning
From Mother Jones
Uppity Cleveland woman carted to psych hospital by police and ordered to a psych unit by judge
(...)
Fisher is on the staff of Revolution Books, and on January 28, while she was putting Bush Step Down posters on telephone polls in Cleveland Heights, she was ordered by a police officer to take them down or face a fine. When she complied, she was asked for her ID, which she did not have on her. He then grabbed her by the arm, pushed her against a store window, and knocked her face down onto the sidewalk. He was joined by another officer, and they both pressed their feet against her back until she could not breathe. Her chin was pressed down into the concrete; Fisher has osteoradionecrosis in her jaw from radiation treatments for cancer.
Ohio.
You know, i hear stuff like this, and I flash to a couple places in absolutely back of beyond backwoods Canada - I mean utterly away.
As I mentioned the other day, you are the ginchiest, GWPDA.
Yeah. And many people here criticized me for calling Dean on that bullshit earlier today...
He admitted his error in saying the platform over which he had no control made a definition of marriage. Move on.
I just don't understand what he thinks he has to gain...
It's that same logic that says his 50-state strategy is a loser. Think long-term. He wants to build a national party and wants to dispel some false notions (certainly overzealously in this case) people have (e.g., Dems are godless).
Do we expect him to be perfect? To have the exact right approach every moment? To not say something dumb ever?
C'mon.
how often do you dig under the fence?
watertiger
Not too often, but I get really excited about eating EXACTLY the same thing every night!
And I tilt my head when I'm thinking.
Plum, I think Threadbot is Deadbot.
It went apeshit a few days ago, but it looks like there are no threadbot posts on the current page.
I wish Howard Dean would quit trying to pander to them...
Well, I don't know what this Dean business is about, but I think it's smart for Democrats to tell Christians who are disillusioned with Bush's phony faith that the Democratic Party represents real values. What's wrong with that?
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion.
Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side.
-Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE
He told conference-goers Halliburton had invented the SurvivaBall -- a new orb-like inflatable product to protect corporate managers from the effects of global warming. Wolf said: “It's essentially a gated community for one.”
I belong to the "Yes Men" -- they just don't know it.
attaturk
The Yea Team?
Unless it's the only tool in the toolbox.
jack
jack's not the sharpest drill bit in the toolbox.
Aw, John Gibson only gets Runner Up.
Terrorism would be a 'tactic' for the CIA or the Army.(because they have other options)
For the terrorists, it's all they got, and therefore strategic.
You know, I think you would make a great DCI...
Fisher was handcuffed and shackled. During this time, Fisher yelled out to everyone who passed what the posters were about. One of the police officers then told her, Fisher says, to "Shut up or I will kill you! I am sick of this anti-Bush shit! You are definitely going to the psyche ward."
Welcome to the new Evil Empire.
Do we expect him to be perfect? To have the exact right approach every moment? To not say something dumb ever?
C'mon.
NTodd, Windizzle™ | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:53 pm | #
No, but I'll criticize him when he does. (He's got a bad record on Native American rights too)
John Gibson is only the worse person in the world tonight.
I'm so disappointed.
That's a woman?
America is a Christian nation. I've said so for 60 years. All our presidents have been men of God, because I have prayed with them. Bill Clinton got a blowjob because even I am not more powerful than Satan, and anyway his wife had power God never meant for her to have and wanted to turn us Communist.
God continues to bless America! We will prevail over the Islamists and the Mexicans. We have a good three or four years left.
He's YOUR GOD! And it's YOUR MONEY!
PRAISE JESUS!
I was brutally disappointed that Gibson only showed, but I can understand how Keith chose the winner.
I think it's smart for Democrats to tell Christians who are disillusioned with Bush's phony faith that the Democratic Party represents real values. What's wrong with that?
Litz
The fundies' "values" consist of demonizing gays and turning women into baby factories.
As I mentioned the other day, you are the ginchiest, GWPDA.
billy b
Awwwwww, gee, eh. Certainly the tiredest-est....
im going to have my entire body covered with a tattoo of a person
You know, I think you would make a great DCI...
NTodd, Windizzle™
When I'm annointed you will be appointed.
Days full of rain
skys comin' down again
I get so tired
of these same old blues
same old song
Baby, it won't be long
'fore I be tyin' on
my flyin' shoes
flyin' shoes
till I be tyin' on
my flyin' shoes
Listening to Townes, drinkin' wine. What's this about diggin' under the fence?
What exactly is this "Challenge"?
Google tells me nothing. Is it an atrios term of art?
= Plum, I think Threadbot is Deadbot=
no cats and no threadbot? MERDE!
Well, I don't know what this Dean business is about, but I think it's smart for Democrats to tell Christians who are disillusioned with Bush's phony faith that the Democratic Party represents real values. What's wrong with that?
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 8:54 pm | #
What's wrong is that he said this:
Dean told Christian Broadcasting Network News that the 2004 Democratic platform declares "marriage is between a man and a woman" — just one of the points he made in reaching out to religious conservatives who are largely hostile to the party.
Fuck it, let's just tell 'em the Dem platform declares that abortion should be illegal and pack it in.
GWPDA, that is a GIDGET saying. Wow, have not thought of that in YEARS.
"Ginchiest" is good, right? It had better be...
Trust in George Bush. He is a man of God.
Billy Graham
Billy Graham is a DEMOCRAT, asshole. Franklin Graham, the evil son, is the Repuke.
And I tilt my head when I'm thinking.
Huh?
Not too often, but I get really excited about eating EXACTLY the same thing every night!
And I tilt my head when I'm thinking.
I don't want to know how you wash.
Aristotle said the history of philosophy was simply a series of footnotes to Plato.
That's a woman?
watertiger
K-Lo's sister.
Even has the prop wheelchair BEEP BEEP!
Pope Ratzo, sorry - my book that just came out. NOT bookwhoring. Just asking.
Oh well. Sorry.
MERDE!
Now THAT I know. That is all the French I know except for names of herbs.
Why don't we do it in the road?
rorschach
I've never personally bought that bit about "no one will be watching us".
I, too, think Dean is on the right track. Do you want to spend election night 2008, watching Florida and Ohio again, biting your nails?
We can't keep giving away the center of the country and hoping to get the 1-percent that puts us over.
I'll forgive him for the marriage crack, if he can put this 50-state deal together.
Aristotle said the history of philosophy was simply a series of footnotes to Plato.
jack | 05.12.06 - 8:58 pm | #
Nietzsche said that jack should go fuck himself.
my history with play-doh is that if i get my hands on any i eat it
rorschach: little things have been bothering ne about Dean lately. Nothing major, but little things nonetheless... And NTodd is showing strong vermonter solidarity with his ex governor, as expected
Yep, Murka doesn't corner the market on racism and stupidity:
http://www.comcast.net/news/
inte...vqh=itn_belgian
Dean told Christian Broadcasting Network News that the 2004 Democratic platform declares "marriage is between a man and a woman" — just one of the points he made in reaching out to religious conservatives who are largely hostile to the party.
Well, not to defend what he said, but that happens to be correct. That IS (or WAS) the Democratic platform. We can argue the merits of that position all we want, but the fact is, that was the Democratic Platform, John Kerry said it a number of times, and like it or not, that's the truth.
I'd have preferred a less disingenuous comment, but considering he was on the 700 Club, I don't blame him one bit. He probably shouldn't waste his time appearing on Wingnut Fundiegelical TeeVee at all, but you gotta give him props for reaching out.
I don't want to know how you wash.
watertiger
Sorry, but what you really don't want to know about is the scooting.
Too far?
I don't want to know how you wash.
No, but I'll criticize him when he does.
Go ahead and criticize. I do, too. But hey, will you not credit him when he says he was wrong?
(He's got a bad record on Native American rights too)
MB and I disagree about that. He merely accepted the AG's opinion that the Abenaki didn't have a good claim for Federal recognition, and thus the State need not recognize them.
I'm glad they have been granted recognition by Vermont (under a GOP gov, no less), but whatever.
If I had no place to fall
and I needed to
could I count on you
to lay me down?
I'd never tell you no lies
I don't believe it's wise
you got pretty eyes
won't you spin me 'round
Um.
Whoa! Big, fat, 1000+ post thread!
Why don't we do it in the road?
rorschach
I've never personally bought that bit about "no one will be watching us".
Elmer, PHD | 05.12.06 - 8:59 pm | #
Years ago, my girlfriend and I walked around our block naked at 3 AM. No one saw, that I know of.
Again? Another one of these marathon threads?
What could these guys do that would possibly shock us anymore? She asked, stupidly.
Well, not to defend what he said, but that happens to be correct. That IS (or WAS) the Democratic platform. We can argue the merits of that position all we want, but the fact is, that was the Democratic Platform, John Kerry said it a number of times, and like it or not, that's the truth.
No, it's not.
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:01 pm | #
Vicki was right about you.
Sorry, but what you really don't want to know about is the scooting.
Too far?
[laughing uncontrollably]
I may be a Democrat, but I'm also an asshole. I have sucked up to power my whole career and kept the Enlightenment from ever darkening America's door. I'm so proud. Richard Nixon was a close personal friend. Ronald Reagan, though he didn't go to church, brought us back as a nation to the true faith. If you don't know what the true faith is, move to France.
Years ago, my girlfriend and I walked around our block naked at 3 AM. No one saw, that I know of.
rorschach
If I had more energy for typing...
But I don't.
Buzz: We allegedly hit 1,624 last night.
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:01 pm | #
Vicki was right about you.
inanity | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:03 pm | #
Hmm... What did she say that was right?
Buzz: We allegedly hit 1,624 last night.
Silleigh, aka Furiousleigh
I saw that, though I didn't visit the thread. Is threadbot on strike?
Olbermann is showing sleeping Cheney photos
rorschach: little things have been bothering ne about Dean lately. Nothing major, but little things nonetheless... And NTodd is showing strong vermonter solidarity with his ex governor, as expected
It has nothing to do with his being my ex-gov. I like Dean because he isn't perfect, polished and always doing what CW expects. He's got a vision of building a national party, and that means he's going to go where Dems don't normally tread.
That's good from where this Independent sits. I hate parties, but if you don't fucking try to grow the organization and make it competitive at all levels, then it's worthless as an opposition. I wish the Greens would take the same tack.
Dean pissed me off quite often during his tenure. And last 2 elections I've voted for Douglas, the GOP gov.
Aristotle said the history of philosophy was simply a series of footnotes to Plato.
Aristotle said men have more teeth than women.
Years ago, my girlfriend and I walked around our block naked at 3 AM. No one saw, that I know of.
rorschach
If I had more energy for typing...
But I don't.
Phila | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:03 pm | #
Okay. then I won't even get into the time my ex-wife and I made naked snow angels...
ROVE INFORMS WHITE HOUSE HE WILL BE INDICTED
From Jason Leopold at Truthout:
Within the last week, Karl Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff
Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.
Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White
House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.
Okay. then I won't even get into the time my ex-wife and I made naked snow angels...
rorschach
Kuhl. What were you guys wearing?
Okay. then I won't even get into the time my ex-wife and I made naked snow angels...
==
Ouch.
I may be a Democrat, but I'm also an asshole. I have sucked up to power my whole career ...
Oh come on Max, cut the bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.
Is threadbot on strike?
I suspect a nervous breakdown. It's lurking inside A's compy somewhere, wearing an I-love-me jacket, muttering to itself, "Yeah, another stupid open thread... yeah, another stupid open thread..."
Awwwwww, gee, eh. Certainly the tiredest-est....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
How are the gums? My better half had extensive gum surgery last summer. Recovery was painful.
I am destined for the same fate soon.
I do not look forward to it.
Fitzmas is coming...
Olbermann was in full-on Friday night snark mode tonight.
Well, not to defend what he said, but that happens to be correct. That IS (or WAS) the Democratic platform. We can argue the merits of that position all we want, but the fact is, that was the Democratic Platform, John Kerry said it a number of times, and like it or not, that's the truth.
Sorry, but that's at least half wrong. Kerry might have stated his own position that 'marriage' is between one man and one woman (which could explain Dean's misstatement), but the platform does NOT say that in any way, shape or form.
I'm sorry, DWD, I'm not fully sober, and I sometime forget that you're associated with that Hoffman character.
Chicago Public Libary doesn't have it yet, but I took out Silent Screams of a Survivor to get ready. You're next up when I finish the Robert Ferrigno book.
As soon as my tax refund comes, I'll order a copy. I get a thrill from owning books by people I sort of know.
Kuhl. What were you guys wearing?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:06 pm | #
Same thing as the angels... heh.
Years ago, my girlfriend and I walked around our block naked at 3 AM. No one saw, that I know of.
rorschach
I've got the pictures to prove it.
Ah, fuck it.
I hate those fucking Jews, though, I'll tell ya.
Wait, did I say that out loud?
I hate those fucking Jews, though, I'll tell ya.
Wait, did I say that out loud?
"If you don't know what the true faith is, move to France."
Well, unlike the 29%, I can't just hitch up my trailer and take off.
I have a job, a mortgage, all that other stuff adults have to deal with.
Well folx... I suspect the SupaThread is causing me memory problem on my vintage laptop... having to reboot every 20-30 minutes, or having the PC just take a greasy dump before that, even... very painful.
Glad you got to see me again.
♥
No, it's not.
rorschach
Yes it is. Kerry was spouting that he was against gay marriage any chance he got. He tried to weasel out of it by saying he wanted to leave it up to the states. Whether that was a smart political move or not can be debated, but the fact of the matter is, the Democratic Party has never officially embraced "gay marriage" as a party.
Personally I think they SHOULD and be done with it, but I hear people saying "the country isn't ready" and whatnot, so whatever.
Olbermann was in full-on Friday night snark mode tonight.
pseudonymous in nc
there's no TDS or Colbert on fridays, he's got to fill us up for the week-end!
Years ago, my girlfriend and I walked around our block naked at 3 AM. No one saw, that I know of.
rorschach
I've got the pictures to prove it.
Richard | 05.12.06 - 9:08 pm | #
And my political aspirations go down in flames before my very eyes!!
Oh well.
How are the gums? My better half had extensive gum surgery last summer. Recovery was painful.
I am destined for the same fate soon.
I do not look forward to it.
billy b
The stitches I got from the molar extraction three weeks ago finally went.
Fucking things were itchy as hell!
Vicki was right about you.
inanity | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:03 pm | #
Hmm... What did she say that was right?
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:03 pm | #
-------
Me, too, 'cept I can't get ror under the covers with me, and from what I've read about things he says about himself, he's my kind of lover!
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore | 05.12.06 - 1:53 pm | #
I can't believe I took the time to look it up. If only I put that much work into my tax audit!
but the platform does NOT say that in any way, shape or form.
NTodd, Windizzle™
The PLATFORM, IIRC, does not address it at all. So when the party's candidate for president says what he said, that's tantamount to the same thing.
We can't keep giving away the center of the country and hoping to get the 1-percent that puts us over.
Noam Sane
hoo boy. What do you play by the way (instruments, type of music). Totally agreed with you today about it being unfair for smokers to poison us and workers but you've lost me on this point. (Also I'm still in the Dean camp). but....
The Dems need to QUIT PANDERING TO THE FUCKING 1% AND PANDER TO MY FUCKING ASS! I'm their base. Feed my red meat butt now! Right Fucking NOW Hillary & Lieberass & Biden & Schumer & Feinstein & Wu & Hooley &
the prznnt is so modest:
"Record-breaking 750 pound hammerhead caught off Florida..."
he hasn't sed a word about it.
Yes it is. Kerry was spouting that he was against gay marriage any chance he got. He tried to weasel out of it by saying he wanted to leave it up to the states. Whether that was a smart political move or not can be debated, but the fact of the matter is, the Democratic Party has never officially embraced "gay marriage" as a party.
Personally I think they SHOULD and be done with it, but I hear people saying "the country isn't ready" and whatnot, so whatever.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:08 pm | #
It's NOT in the Democratic platform, and Dean was wrong when he said it was. And yes, he did correct himself.
Ya know what's weird? This Morgellons Disease business.
Anyone know anyone who's had it? I keep reading newspaper stories, but they tend to be regional.
Don't know what to make of it.
This thread is still active?
Wow.
I just figured it out!
Myspace is a NSA project. Looking for patterns in social networks. Shit, I gotta go take down those pictures.
Litz - this is what the 2004 Dem platform said about marriage (PDF):
"We support full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and seek equal responsibilities, benefits, and protections for these families. In our country, marriage has been defined at the state level for 200 years, and we believe it should continue to be defined there. We
repudiate President Bush's divisive effort to politicize the Constitution by pursuing a "Federal Marriage Amendment." Our goal is to bring Americans together, not drive them apart."
Years ago, my girlfriend and I walked around our block naked at 3 AM. No one saw, that I know of.
rorschach
If I had more energy for typing...
But I don't.
Phila | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:03 pm | #
Okay. then I won't even get into the time my ex-wife and I made naked snow angels...
rorschach
The PLATFORM, IIRC, does not address it at all. So when the party's candidate for president says what he said, that's tantamount to the same thing.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 9:10 pm | #
You do not recall correctly.
Dean told Christian Broadcasting Network News that the 2004 Democratic platform declares "marriage is between a man and a woman" — just one of the points he made in reaching out to religious conservatives who are largely hostile to the party.
But the platform does not define marriage that way, and his remarks prompted the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force to return a $5,000 donation from the Democratic National Committee.
...
The result: a platform plank that left the central question about what defines marriage to the states, and specifically rejected President Bush's support for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage.
It asserted: "We support full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and seek equal responsibilities, benefits, and protections for these families."
Dean stated in the interview: "The Democratic Party platform from 2004 says that marriage is between a man and a woman. That's what it says."
"Ginchiest" is good, right? It had better be...
Silleigh
60's TV/Beach movie surfer talk.
Think "grooviest".
Don't think I'd try to dis the genteel lady, do you?
My mama raised me better than that.
How are the gums? My better half had extensive gum surgery last summer. Recovery was painful.
I am destined for the same fate soon.
I do not look forward to it.
billy b
The gums, thanks for asking, are back to their usual pinkly appealing selves. On the other hand, I did have this inch long piece of stainless steel driven into my upper gum thru to just below the sinus floor Wednesday and I'm feeling the least bit rocky soon. But the spa is supposed to be operable tomorrow!
G-d Polly-Anna GWPDA....
Found this over at Thinkprogress:
NOPE - this is what randi announced:
Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report
Friday 12 May 2006
Comment by katy — May 12, 2006 @ 7:01 pm
AND PANDER TO MY FUCKING ASS!
only Dean can do it or is it open to everybody ErinPDX?
The PLATFORM, IIRC, does not address it at all. So when the party's candidate for president says what he said, that's tantamount to the same thing.
Nope. Tantamount is NOT the same thing. The platform is an actual document stating party policy stances. What Kerry said is not the same thing.
Oh, come ON!
http://www.comcast.net/news/inde.../12/
390752.html
Dean pissed me off quite often during his tenure. And last 2 elections I've voted for Douglas, the GOP gov.
Nine trolls just choked on their Cheetos.
Aristotle said men have more teeth than women.
NTodd, Windizzle™
In Ari's day, men were wussies, and couldn't handle 32 women.
AND PANDER TO MY FUCKING ASS!
only Dean can do it or is it open to everybody ErinPDX?
Plum P
The PLATFORM, IIRC, does not address it at all. So when the party's candidate for president says what he said, that's tantamount to the same thing.
Litz
Exactly the problem I referred to earlier today. Dean has been told in no uncertain terms by the beltway dinos that he Must Keep Quiet about policy. What crap is that? Let's look at the Dem bylaws. How can they get away with squelching Dean when we, the Grassroots, all over the country had our reps vote him in? I for one made quite a few calls to ensure my reps were voting for Dean and one rep was ousted for not vowing to support him! And it wasn't just Oregon's people, but reps from all over the nation that made sure fowler, that creepy blue dog from the midwest and the others didn't get in. Screw the beltway dems and their claim to set policy with their big mealy mouths.
OK, beeroclock.
The Rethugs have done a marvelous job in turning the entire foundational philosophy of a central federal government on its head. Their approach is that the federal executive is bestowed with any power that the federal executive feels necessary, in its own opinion, to fulfill its Constitutional mandate.
In actuality, the federal executive begins with no power whatsoever. From that base is added the Article II provisions of the Constitution. (Second after the Legislature was not an accident). Added to that are those specific and limited extensions granted to it by the U.S. Congress via statute, and made clear by opinions of the U.S. Supreme Court.
There is no "Unitary Executive", as purported by these charlatans, and they should all be tried for treason..
"Ginchiest" is good, right? It had better be...
Silleigh
60's TV/Beach movie surfer talk.
Again, a blast from the past!
Envoys Say Enriched Uranium Found in Iran
By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer
44 minutes ago
VIENNA, Austria - U.N. inspectors have found traces of highly enriched uranium on equipment from an Iranian research center linked to the military, diplomats said Friday _ a revelation likely to strengthen U.S. arguments that Tehran wants to develop nuclear arms.
DUH!
Jesus. This stuff is like something out of a David Cronenberg movie.
only Dean can do it or is it open to everybody ErinPDX?
Plum P
I've been known to take them all!
gimmie gimmie gimmie!
rhandi rhodes live on cnn
rRnaandy rhodes on larry king live now
Fucking thousand comments? Did Threadbottie get picked up by guvmint agents or something?
Well maybe I will be a thread killa!
Nine trolls just choked on their Cheetos.
I'd feel bad about that, but I'm not that good a Quaker.
Good night nurse: i just saw that Matt Cooper thing. I thought he said something off the cuff. Thatt was written down? Is this part of his wannabe comedy routing?
under the radar - BTW, thanks for the plumbing advice a few days ago. Did exactly that, and it all worked out good.
G-d Polly-Anna GWPDA....
GWPDA
Keep the faith, dear heart. I hope you get to feeling better soon.
Doesn't seem to have affected your sense of humor tho, which is a good sign.
I've been watching "Catwoman" for the past 20 minutes. It's time for bed.
Were Putz and the gay school teacher here or was that just a nightmare?
1100+ post thread is nothing for my new imac. i'm so happy with my new machine!
Evening, Moonbats!
Jeepers H. Christmas, 1196 comments? Hoo, boy. Where's threadbot?
Where's threadbot?
bigvic
suicide...it's was tragic, don't ask
TC - Glad to hear you recovered nicely after the surgery, girlfriend.
I'm off to watch moo-bies. Later, all you ginchy individuals.
This stuff is like something out of a David Cronenberg movie.
I linked to this article this morning,
"There are differences in the sequence of the community strain that may make it more virulent, more able to affect people with (healthy immune systems), and with biological differences that make it spread readily," he says.
snip
t is causing infections from abscesses to deadly blood poisoning, bone infections and pneumonia, often in the young and the fit, including professional football players, high school athletes and previously healthy children.
How much trouble are we in?
Apparently, quite alot. The drug makers are finding out, our resources are inadequet to keep up with this new strain of Staph infections.
the Townes record I'm listening to, and I think you should all own
It's not my favorite of his, but gosh it goes well with wine and atrios...
CNN nice format. Love it.
am i the only lib/progressive/whatever who passed through the last however many years indifferent to the presence and now passing of the West Wing?
the prznnt is so modest:
"Record-breaking 750 pound hammerhead caught off Florida..."
he hasn't sed a word about it.
DemByDefault
Read that as "hemorrhoid". Clean monitor and glasses...
I heard an NPR thing on the radio (while fucking stuck on a high ass bridge), where the Venerable Bede David Brooks was congratulating the Democrats that they appear to be finally getting back to the center, where I guess they belong in his estimation.
the Townes record I'm listening to, and I think you should all own
I have the box set with all the studio stuff...
indifferent to the presence and now passing of the West Wing?
DemByDefault
stopped watching after the 2nd season myself