I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarFirst!


Gravatartrud


GravatarSpy on me!


Gravatarlet's keep the foliage out of it, 'kay?


GravatarFrom a satellite? Well Blue-Freaking-Thunder, meet Tom Clancy!


GravatarOpen up your gullets libs and get ready for some pancakes straight outta gammy's kitchen.


GravatarWell, I hope this sinks Hayden's nomination for good. Bastard rat-turd!


GravatarShocked? No... As someone on this blog said some time ago, "And this time next year, our shit will be blue, the sky will stink, and Republicans will still all be criminals."


Gravatarthere's just no end to it, is there?


GravatarShocked?

As in a cattle prod to the nethers by the NSA?


Gravataryou can count on Joe Lieberman to propose changing the law to make satellite-based spying on Americans legal...


GravatarThey're hoping the market will lose 120 points so we won't notice. Oh, right, it did.


GravatarAs in a cattle prod to the nethers by the NSA?

As in a cattle prod to the nethers of the NSA?

I fixed your typo.


GravatarSo is Bill Bennett laying odds on Tice making it to next week in one piece?


GravatarJust remember to look skyward and wave.


GravatarNo pancakes or kool-aid for me. Don't you have a housefull of stray cats to attend to, "grandma" or are you going to just let them crap all over the place? Someone really ought to call the authorities - I mean, it's a real health hazard.


GravatarWe shouldn't rush to be shocked at new revelations of the Administration's wrongdoings. He's our president and deserves our support.


GravatarOoh Jeff Koinage, the man with the lovely accent on CNN.


Gravatar. . . and yet 63% of Americans will say it's OK if it keeps the boogeyman under the bed from biting their toes at night.


GravatarIt's Friday, 4 pm Central.
What fresh hell hath the Bush Administration unleashed?
What devious activities have they tried to slide past us this week?


GravatarSo that's what that glinting thing was over the backyard when I was sunbatheing nude, hmmm?


GravatarSo, will we GET to hear the details in order to be shocked, or will all this be kept classified?


GravatarAmigos,

May I present:

¡Maldiciones!

A modest proposal for incivility.

so.


GravatarNSA Whistleblower To Expose More Unlawful Activity: ‘People…Are Going To Be Shocked’
CongressDaily reports that former NSA staffer Russell Tice will testify to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week that not only do employees at the agency believe the activities they are being asked to perform are unlawful, but that what has been disclosed so far is only the tip of the iceberg. Tice will tell Congress that former NSA head Gen. Michael Hayden, Bush’s nominee to be the next CIA director, oversaw more illegal activity that has yet to be disclosed.

--From "Think Progress"


GravatarIn other news four more U S soldiers died today protecting our way of life.

Marines Killed in Tank Accident in Iraq
By THOMAS WAGNER


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Four Marines drowned when their tank rolled off a bridge and plunged into a canal, the military said Friday, adding that while the accident occurred in a Sunni insurgent stronghold, it was not the result of an enemy action.


see just an accident - happy mothers day.


GravatarSince there's no recent open thread, this is WAY off-topic:

I'm taking a poll of best political bumper stickers and best nicknames for Bush and Cheney over at my site. Please stop by and let me know your suggestions.

http://jimthecrazyliberal.blogspot.com/


GravatarThis quite possibly could put bush's approval ratings in the teens with Darth Vader. Can't wait to hear what Mr. Tice, has to say. Wonder how the repukes will spin this one?


Gravatar“I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It’s pretty hard to believe,” Tice said. “I hope that they’ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn’t exist right now.” …

I wonder if they saw the giant "Suck it, Bush!" sign on my roof.


GravatarAh, the good old economic system set up by our imperial administration, the region of Nigeria rich in oil is an area that is dirt poor. The citizens see virtually no benefit.


GravatarWell, that could explain the e-mail problems I've been having with liberal organizations and some activists, and hell, even with certain people from Eschaton.


GravatarI'll admit to a sad feeling about this. How many times have we told each other in the past five years, 'This is it! They've gone too far! The scales will fall from their eyes, and the forces of right will triumph!', only to be told a few weeks later that it's Ok, and if it isn't, it's Saddam's, Osama's or Clinton's fault?

Nothing much to do but keep showing up, is there?


GravatarOh man! I just posted this link in the last dead thread!

Do I get a gold star?


Gravatar“I hope that they’ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn’t exist right now.”

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order."


GravatarSo, whose basement is this guy going to hide in until next week?

I'd volunteer, except my house probably is under surveillance already.


Gravatar“I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It’s pretty hard to believe,” Tice said.

Goddam, somebody get this guy a few bodyguards, and tell him to stay away from small planes and elevators.


GravatarI have to go soon here, but to what do you all speculate he's referring?

Tapping in on phone sex? Or something more diabolical? Like tapping into political opponents in 2004?

Or something worse?


GravatarI fell off a bridge on a sled one winter -- but fall off a bridge in a TANK? Oy!


GravatarGod fucking damn it. Congress, get off your collective ass and kick these freaks to the curb. For the rest of us, if Congress won't do it's job, then elect people who will.


Gravatar19%, here we come!


GravatarThe President knows best.
The President knows best.

Oh help me mommy
The President knows best.
The president knows best.


GravatarThis Fascist Dictatorship Brought to You by the Republican Party!


GravatarI'd clutch my pearls in shock if I had any.


Gravatarno Fitzivus today?


GravatarI bet political opponents


GravatarBeyond the tipping point.


GravatarI'm having outrage fatigue


GravatarFuck Fitz. He's just blowing smoke up our ass.


GravatarWell, I hope this sinks Hayden's nomination for good. Bastard rat-turd!

I hope so too, but we know that a lot more than that needs to get sunk along with him. He's just a facilitator of the Administration's regime.

Just what is it going to take for the sheep to smell the shit?


GravatarAnd cue the Lee Greenwood...

And I proud to be an American,
Where at least, I know, I'm free...


GravatarWonder how the repukes will spin this one?

"It's always tragic when a man takes his own life..."


GravatarSo I presume the papers have Tice's obituary on hand.


GravatarOh man! I just posted this link in the last dead thread!

Do I get a gold star?


You can get a gold star after we get the unicorn ponies wearing crotchless panties and carrying hecklers carrying heads on pikes.

We're at 29%!!!

Where are the unicorn ponies wearing crotchless panties and carrying hecklers carrying heads on pikes???

I am deeply disappointed.


GravatarMaybe this Tice fellow will tell us, Vicki. That's what I want to know, too. Exactly what have they been doing? Because nobody is buying this mindless "fightin' terra!" bullshit.


GravatarNo Rove indictment and Deadwood gets canceled, even though the HBO cocksuckers had previously greenlighted another season. Bummer.


GravatarAt any rate, it's a good day for...

Catblogging!


GravatarSure, we might be shocked. The question is, will we think it's funny?


GravatarI'd clutch my pearls in shock if I had any.

NTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents.


GravatarBecause nobody is buying this mindless "fightin' terra!" bullshit.

(Auggy and David are.)


GravatarI'm not certain I understand what kind of troll grandma is ...

Perhaps grandma is cooking some meth in her kitchen and that's why she never makes any sense.


GravatarOoh Jeff Koinage, the man with the lovely accent on CNN.
attaturk


Jeff Koinage? That can't be his given name.


GravatarI wonder what Tice is talking about.

If it's just wholesale vacuuming, or massive databases and data mining, or listening in on the top guys at the IAEA or foreigners, etc, that's not too shocking.

If they're listening on reporters, political activists, the Kerry campaign, then that would qualify.

Perhaps not to people here, but regular people.


GravatarWhat would be worse than torture and rendition? i don't think that can happen.


Gravatar19%, here we come!

Is that a challenge?


Are you up for more frilly wear?


GravatarAnd cue the Lee Greenwood...

And I proud to be an American,
Where at least, I know, I'm free...

Free to go to work and to Church and to raise your children to be good god-fearing obedient Americans, that's what Lee meant, Mr. SmartGuy.


GravatarWhat's with all this bullshit haloscan warnings telling me I have too many empty lines? My original post had all of two sentences in it with a single blank line in between then. Thus technically the warning should have said too many blank line, not blank line(s).

I don't know but Haloscan keeps getting suckier and suckier!

MYOB'
.


Gravatar
Perhaps grandma is cooking some meth in her kitchen and that's why she never makes any sense.


and smells so funny


GravatarNTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents.
Stunt Woman


His protective force field might get in the way.


GravatarWell,I say Godwin's Law is dead and gone, and any comparisons of Bushco and his rightwing media whores to Hitler's Reich and Goerring are in danger of becoming unfairly harsh to the Krauts. Glen beck and the other bloviators would be in favor of ovens for Muslims and Mexicans, and if Shock and Awe wasn't genocidal, then I just don't know.


GravatarCould y'all ease up on the "Cocksucker' stuff?

/cocksucker


GravatarDeadwood gets canceled, even though the HBO cocksuckers had previously greenlighted another season. Bummer.

Oh, Mr.Litz will be verklempt. Me, I hated that show. I call it the Cocksucka Show. I never got the point of it.

I miss "Dead Like Me." That's another show that was supposed to have a second season and they yanked at the last minute.


GravatarThis fella better stash himself somewhere far away and reeeeealllll hard to find for a while, hmm?


GravatarAm I correct in understanding that the government has records of those phone calls people are making that you hear in the check-out line or on the bus -- you know the long, pointless, narrative kind. All the communications between teenagers chattering and texting endlessly about the subtle nuances of youth culture are part of this huge government database?

Well, with any luck, any sort of AI program designed to analyze that crap will probably just throw up.


GravatarMatthews is amazingly coherent today, regarding the CIA: It seems like Bush wants to use the CIA to confirm what he already believes, then when it doesn't work out he blames them for it. He's trying to stifle them first with Goss and now maybe with Hayden.

Good for you Chris.


GravatarAre you up for more frilly wear?
smalfish, terrorist


You should see my closet!


GravatarJeff Koinage? That can't be his given name. -Holden

He's money and he doesn't even know it.


GravatarI hope the NSA releases Hayden's phone records.


GravatarHow bout some choice bits from America's Taliban to make you day complete?


GravatarOh hell fucking no. Too many eyes are looking at them. If something were to happen to Tice, for instance, the whole thing might blow up. I doubt that even Bushco and their corpo-fascist pals are crazy enough to try something like that.


GravatarGoing to be Shocked


That's what the farmer said before I pissed on his electric fence.


Gravatar"NTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents."
--Stunt Woman

I was sure it was a quarter. Maybe he's having a sale this week?


GravatarCould y'all ease up on the "Cocksucker' stuff?


Sorry.


GravatarI'm betting that this regards to the surveillance of political opponents, possibly during the '04 presidential campaign. Subversion of Democracy, anyone ?

Somebody put this guy in a safe-house this weekend !


GravatarWell, have a fun evening.

I'm off to visit some friends and avoid Italian men who make confessions to me like the plague.

Later, gators. I'll prolly be back around prime time...feeling prime (maybe).


GravatarWonder how the repukes will spin this one?

"It's always tragic when a man takes his own life..."
dave™©

Could be this is why he gave a small statement about what his testimony would be about. I am thinking it keeps him a bit safer.


GravatarI hope the NSA releases Hayden's phone records.


We can still buy them for $100.


GravatarThat's what the farmer said before I pissed on his electric fence.
Holden Caulfield


And he was proven fucking right.


GravatarOh hell fucking no. Too many eyes are looking at them. If something were to happen to Tice, for instance, the whole thing might blow up. I doubt that even Bushco and their corpo-fascist pals are crazy enough to try something like that.
B1 Bummer


Word. And if Tice knows, others know.


GravatarI'm not certain I understand what kind of troll grandma is ...

grandma is a 'dith' kind of troll. since calling it dith, it has gone away.


GravatarTice is a little disgruntled weasel, couldn't take the heat, going for the easy media cash-out now.


GravatarHey, Vicki - this one's for you!


GravatarConservatarians are people who trust faceless bureaucrats to respect self-monitored limits on their use of spying techniques.


Gravatarthe rights smeat will be "he was recently fired as coach of the minnesota vikings"


GravatarNothing, and I mean nothing, shocks me coming from this administration.

Let's hope Russell Tice lives through the weekend.


Gravatari look forward to my daily shock treatments.


GravatarI was sure it was a quarter. Maybe he's having a sale this week?
mer


He's always charged me a quarter. If he's been giving Stunt Woman a discount I'll sue.


GravatarOh, Mr.Litz will be verklempt. Me, I hated that show. I call it the Cocksucka Show. I never got the point of it.

Well the third season is about to start, its the next season that got whacked. So you do have more Cocksuckas to sit through


GravatarMatthews is amazingly coherent today, regarding the CIA:

Matthews and Hitchens once had a thoughtful discussion of the death penalty, and Tweety, typically couldn't quite bring himself to admit how fucked up it was,and Hitchens pointed out that XX percentage of people now opposed it (in the forties, I think it was), and Tweety responded, completely out of his ass, "Well yeah, those are probably the people who think Clinton shouldn't have been impeached."

It is always on his mind.


GravatarDave, that's great! I love you for that!

I tell you, my favorite tee shirt of all time is the Moonbat tee shirt I bought from NYMary at EschaCon.

She did a great job all around!


GravatarI will wager that Russell Tice will have an accident or be taking up unknown residence at the NSA'a expense before he actually gets a chance to testify.


GravatarDid Tice get an invitation to go quail hunting this weekend?


GravatarWell, with any luck, any sort of AI program designed to analyze that crap will probably just throw up



"ohmygawd he was so, like, totally awesome!

"ohmygawd I like, so, totally, get it!"

"ohmygawd it's like so, totally gross!"

"ohmygawd, like, I know!"

"like, yeah!"

/barf


GravatarMrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments; towards the end of each 30-day period it starts to wear off and he starts making sense; then he gets his shots and turns back into the wingnut we know and loathe.


GravatarYou should see my closet!

I'm betting that door is usually FIRMLY closed, tight.


GravatarKoinage

long A, hard G, long E.

Affectionately christened (by who, I've forgotten) "Swamp Thing" during his Katrina coverage.


GravatarHe's always charged me a quarter. If he's been giving Stunt Woman a discount I'll sue.

I've never been paid to clutch anyone's pearls.

I have been paid to let go of them, however.

Consider that your first warning.


Gravatar Beyond the tipping point.
Holden Caulfield


I'd hope so...

But folk still ain't literate of things like COINTELPRO.

Granted, this is obviously a more intense, less body-orientated operation, but it...it....*KABOOOM*

Franny is gonna take over for Zap for awhile.


GravatarLitz,

I see you know teenagers!


Gravatarbut impeachment seeking is a purely liberal instinct. -- twaty


Gravatar So you do have more Cocksuckas to sit through

Crap.

I guess I have something to look forward to: no Sopranos OR cocksuckers next year. Woo hoo.


GravatarChris Matthews appears to me to be a human weathervane.

Timmeh sucks up to power.

Matthews dodges with the polls. That makes him a man of the people.


Gravatar¡I got jour Gato-blogging right here!


Ahhhhh, my very first blogwhore.

(sneeff, sneeff)

¡No! I promised myself that I would no get all weepy-eyed...

¡por favor, joo must excuse me!

(turns face away, runs from room)

so!


GravatarHaw! That was Mike Tice. Not to be confused with Mike Tyson. Although Mike Tyson himself is pretty much confusion incarnate, but whatevah . . .


GravatarRemember when the committee asked Gonzales about this crap and he was unable to deny that they had actually killed and renditioned (did I make up a word?) Americans as a result?


GravatarNTodd will let you clutch his pearls for fifteen cents.

If you have a Tastee Freeze Frequent Fluffit Card, there's an additional nickel discount.


GravatarRemember John Titor.


GravatarI see you know teenagers!


I grew up in L.A. Same speech pattern.


GravatarThe term "cocksucker" kinda goes hand-in-hand with any discussion of Deadwood -- I'm sure no offense was intended. After all, many of us...

I miss Dead Like Me, too. Have both seasons on DVD, but it was just starting to look like it could get really interesting -- and then it got the boot. They wrapped it up pretty well though, considering. I miss The Old Days -- Six Feet Under, Queer as Folk, all this great stuff to look forward to on Sunday nights.


GravatarAhhhhh, my very first blogwhore.

Joo deed a lovely job, el Gato.


GravatarRemember Bush rule #1.


Gravatar...that's great! I love you for that!

It'a all yours, gratis... put up an Eschacon II Cafe Press site on your never-updated Eschacon blog and charge whatever... I think Walter Neff has contacted you about doing some stuff, hasn't he?


Gravatar...hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. …

Oh my.

And who would these U.S. citizens be?


GravatarHere's what I wonder. The feds went to the phone companies for land lines, it seems. No cell carrier that I've read about has confirmed they participated.

But would the NSA need to talk to them about it at all? Could they log all cell calls (or listen) remotely, and the cell carriers not even know about it?


GravatarGrandma knows insane when she sees it.

"But Tice, branded “paranoid” by agency doctors before he was stripped of his security clearance five months ago, making him unemployable by any intelligence agency, was warned by NSA that that he had to first provide the agency and its parent, the Department of Defense, with the information he intended to disclose and the names of people he wanted to talk to."


GravatarPerhaps a teenage argot codespeak would serve the Masters of Terrorism well in their cellular conversations. The Navajo would have nothing on 'em...


GravatarBUSH: Whatcha' eatin' there Dick?

CHENEY: Red beans and Tice.

BUSH: You mean redbeans and rice, right?

CHENEY: Uh, yeah.


GravatarThe big battle will be if Tice can testify, and if so in public.

The administration will scream national security, but with Bush losing 7 in 10 people, a teetering Congress and a media that finally has woken up, will that fly?


GravatarRemember when the committee asked Gonzales about this crap and he was unable to deny that they had actually killed and renditioned (did I make up a word?) Americans as a result?
ErinPDX


wow..


Gravatarbut impeachment seeking is a purely liberal instinct. -- twaty
jello

You know only repukes can impeach, and only for blow jobs...


Gravatar"ohmygawd, like, I know!"

"like, yeah!"

/barf
Litz

SQUARE PEGS!


GravatarOT: Recently lb0313 very kindly sent me a copy of Chris Rose's collection of post-Katrina columns.

I got the book in the mail today. Reading it is making me cry, and laugh, and cry some more.

If you want to learn a bit more about the human side of what Katrina refugees and those who returned to NOLA have had to deal with, buy his book. It is $13.00 and a portion of the proceeds go to the Tipitina's Foundation, which is helping musicians return to their home, repairing damaged homes and replacing lost instruments, among other things.


GravatarThe term "cocksucker" kinda goes hand-in-hand with any discussion of Deadwood -- I'm sure no offense was intended. After all, many of us...

That's why I waded through three days of it before saying anything..........


GravatarMrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments;

Just yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"

Complete 180 in 24 hours.


GravatarMrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments;

Just yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"

Complete 180 in 24 hours.


GravatarAre trolls too stupid to link to their sources or would that just make it obvious they're full of shit?


GravatarGood, el gato negro, kerplunkee to the potty mouth jar.

'renditioned (did I make up a word?)'

it's elf speak.


Gravatarbut impeachment seeking is a purely liberal instinct. -- twaty
jello

That can't be a quote. It just can't be...


GravatarThe term "cocksucker" kinda goes hand-in-hand with any discussion of Deadwood

Indeed. on the TWOP Deadwood forum, cocksucker and whore are terms of affection, not unlike moonbat here.


GravatarDead man walking!


GravatarYou should see my closet!
Holden Caulfield


Really, Holden, how many times do we have to reassure you that you don't need to hang out in there? You're safe with us. ntodd notwithstanding.


GravatarCook up a link there, will ya' gramma?


GravatarNthDodd,

Did eu see Zaph's "pliedge"?


GravatarI miss Six Feet Under, too.

I really didn't think the last season was all that depressing.


GravatarGrandma will not tolerate being called a troll by unbridled libs.


GravatarNone of this would be possible in a nation where people didn't love being lied to.


GravatarLoved the end of 6 Feet when everybody ages to the end of their lives.


GravatarMe, I've got an 8 year old and a 9 year old, so they watch 'High School Musical' a lot...


Gravatar"insane" you mean Tice believes that god chose him for his position?


GravatarSee, in the past, there was nothing like the internets. So if you are some kind of heavy operator in the spook industry or elsewhere in government, you can no longer control the flow of information about things you may want to hide. As long as someone gets the information and gets it on the net, there's no stopping it. It's out there forever, and way to many people will see it to ever keep all inquiry away. Slowly but surely, the post WWII government secrecy cult is going to be undermined, whether they like it or not.


Gravatar"But Tice, branded “paranoid” by agency doctors before he was stripped of his security clearance five months ago, making him unemployable by any intelligence agency, was warned by NSA that that he had to first provide the agency and its parent, the Department of Defense, with the information he intended to disclose and the names of people he wanted to talk to."

Unfortunately, all those folks have an agenda.


Gravatarwapo has a new poll:

66% say whatever the unlawful activity is, it's OK.


GravatarWouldn't you know Ntodd would be first to step up to the plate and as a volunteer to boot. Who is next? Simels? Phila? Atta?


Gravatar"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"


That's such an easy question to answer: NO.

Likewise, it wouldn't be "worth it" to put cameras in everyone's house hooked up the police station to prevent John Wayne Gacy's crimes.

Matthews question is vile and the only appropriate response is to say: "Fuck you, Chris, you fat rich white cocksucking whore. You're an idiot."


Gravatarhttp://public.cq.com/public/ 2006...1_homeland.html


GravatarGrandma will not tolerate being called a troll by unbridled libs.
grandma's own cooking


If the tag fits, you old biddy, wear it.


GravatarI'm probably the only person on the planet who liked it, but I really was upset when they cancelled "The Comeback."


Gravatar"grandma's own trolling"


GravatarWhere can I buy one of those swear jars?

I do so hope they're full of new and dreamy cuss words.


GravatarBe nicceth.

Purrrrrrr....


GravatarSecond-to-last season of 6FU was pretty bad, though--I got to dislike Nate a lot when he was the dog-walking single dad. Plus, I always liked Brenda.


GravatarGrandma knows insane when she sees it.

Looking at mirrors again, eh?


GravatarAre you telling me that Rove has had all those phone records, and hasn't looked up the logs on Seymore Hersh?

Why would Bush spend any time tracking down terrorists? Unless there's a clear and immediate political benefit, I don't see the motivation. There solution for everything is A) Give Bush more power B) Give more money to my contributors.

NSA doesn't do nearly as much for tracking down terrorists as it does leakers, journalists and Democrats.


Gravatar"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"

Funnily enough, they say it WAS in place in 2001 and no, it hasn't prevented jack shit.


GravatarAnd who would these U.S. citizens be?
pie

The 10 million murkin taliban.


Gravatarwapo has a new poll:

66% say whatever the unlawful activity is, it's OK.


Discredited already.


GravatarAnyway, they wouldn't have needed this program in 2001, Bush got a PDB titled "Osama Determined To Strike Inside U.S." and basically did nothing since he was on vacation and couldn't be bothered.

"Now watch this drive."


GravatarSQUARE PEGS!

A fine, fine program.


GravatarGrandma will not tolerate being called a troll by unbridled libs.
grandma's own cooking


Bob Dole will not have trolls infringing on Bob Dole's trademarked use of referring to himself in the third person.

Cease and deexist.


GravatarIndeed. on the TWOP Deadwood forum, cocksucker and whore are terms of affection, not unlike moonbat here.

That's so sweet. For some of us, it has a lot of real-world baggage. Call folks nigger a lot, do you? I asked nicely.


GravatarNSA doesn't do nearly as much for tracking down terrorists as it does leakers, journalists and Democrats.
Memekiller


they should release the numbers and when they are shown to be DNC headquarters...


GravatarPlus, I always liked Brenda.
except for that Billy thing she had going. That was creepy.


GravatarGrandma seems to have wandered away from the Active Living Assistance wing.


GravatarAnd what evidence do we have that Tice is "insane?" Your say-so? You do know that's the oldest smear trick in the book, don't you?


Gravatarwapo has a new poll:

66% say whatever the unlawful activity is, it's OK.
hadenough


They are asking the wrong question.

Let's try: "How do you feel about Karl Rove being able to use the NSA wiretap information against Democrats?"

That's the angle I'm not hearing. Hey, the guy knows who's a NOC and who's not in the CIA, so I'm sure he can access this NSA info also. I'll come in real handy for disrupting Democratic local caucuses and primaries.


GravatarThanks for th elink, gramma.

As CQ reported on April 15, Mark Klein, a retired AT&T worker, gave a sworn statement that he saw NSA technicians set up a room at the company’s San Francisco switching station to tap into the phone calls and e-mail traffic carried by the telecommunication giant.



Gravatar""If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?""

If we had a program in place that was sanctioned by law, with protections, limitations on retention of data, defined procedures and accountabilities?

You mean that kind of program? Not including the fact that the people who put it into motion are supposed to not be idealogical nut cases with rampant desires of totalitarian conquest.


GravatarA fine, fine program.
NYMary


I concur


GravatarPlus, I always liked Brenda.

Eh, I liked her better when she was the fucked up sex addict than the Caitlin Flanagan-wannabe mom.


GravatarApropos of nothing, did I mention that I quit smoking cigarettes* while simultaneously going away for summer school and moving into my crappy student apartment and being alone way to much, and my medal must have gotten lost in the mail?

*mostly. I've been smoking one per day. and I have a certifiable need for a coupla drinks tonight, so all bets are off until tomorrow. But still.


GravatarWould you like a tissue, El Gato? Or should I just lick your tears off as your mama would have done?


Gravatar Could y'all ease up on the "Cocksucker' stuff?

No offence to suckers of cock intended by any means. As others have mentioned you can't talk Deadwood without mentioning c_________s.


Gravatarwapo has a new poll:

Dismantled that one hours ago.


GravatarThe NSA is under the eye of the DoD?

I thought it was a presidential task force?


GravatarBut if there where bad witches with armies of flyling monkies, then wouldn't everybody want a wizard to protet them, whether or no he was really just a little man behind a curtain.

I tell ya I wish I had those sparkly red pumps to carry me back home safe and sound. I wouldn't wear'em with the blue gingham dress though, that color makes my hair look too yellow, and the interent kooks will all start calling me Tweety again, but I do like a nice full skirt to hide my...what...oh shit..those are on...?

We'll be right back with Peggy Noonan and Charles Krauthammer to discuss whether or not Al Gore is off his meds.
{{Bwaha bwaha bwaha}}


Gravatarhere is insane granny
(pimped from mediamatters)

BECK: Blowing up Iran. I say we nuke the bastards. In fact, it doesn't have to be Iran, it can be everywhere, anyplace that disagrees with me. Hang on just a second, is there any more [former "American Idol" contestant] Clay Aiken? Maybe we should just listen to them. We should listen to -- we should listen to the president of Iran. We should listen to President Tom [Beck's nickname for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]. And say what, what, what do you want? How can we be friends? Why can't we just all get along? Who was your favorite on American Idol, President Tom?


GravatarAll these former Bushies need to get together for a giant press conference/photo op and go on the record now, not just dribble out their complaints. They need to scream from the steps of the Capitol.


GravatarSucks when your source disproves your point, don't it gramms?


GravatarNobody's been covering this, so what the hell. The Yes Men punked Halliburton.


GravatarSecond-to-last season of 6FU was pretty bad, though...

Yeah, I esp. disliked that final episode revelation regarding who killed Nate's wife. Talk about out of the blue!

Season 5 was a big improvement. Nate's death scene = greatest TV death scene EVER!


GravatarGrandma knows insane when she sees it.

Guess how.


GravatarIt didn't prevent 9/11 Chris, so it's a totally bgus question.


Gravatar'You're safe with us. ntodd notwithstanding.
Virginia, grizzled'

He's safe while he's not yeswithstanding.


Gravatar"grandma" shouldn't you be setting the table? Cletus should be getting home from reform school any minute.


GravatarYou're welcome little Holden. Now go and be a good boy and don't play with those hookers anymore.


Gravatar"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"

I don't recall ever reading in the papers of the Founders of some absolute, non-negotiable choice between rights and safety. It's a balance, a matter of acceptable compromise, an art which has been smashed to death in the past half-decade.


GravatarPlus, I always liked Brenda.
NYMary


Me too. Ditto on Square Pegs.

Eh, I liked her better when she was the fucked up sex addict

That goes without saying.


GravatarGrandma knows insane when she sees it.

Guess how.
Virginia, grizzled | 05.12.06 - 5:34 pm | #


I can't decide if my grandma is insane or just a lush.

Maybe both?


GravatarThat can't be a quote. It just can't be...
DemByDefault

here you go, from thursday's show:

MATTHEWS: John, do you think that the president is going to pull this thing with Karl Rove? according to the online column in “Newsweek” by Howard Fineman, I read it late last night, he says if these numbers continue to go south on the president, they‘ve got a doomsday plan which is to just scare the heck out of people about the Democrats, about impeachment, investigations, all kinds of left-wing behavior.


GravatarEh, I liked her better when she was the fucked up sex addict than the Caitlin Flanagan-wannabe mom.

Yep. There was that great moment when he figured out what was going on and said "Who the hell are you?" and she answered "I'm the woman who fucked you in a closet two hours after we met without knowing your name."

Busted, Nate. Totally busted.


GravatarPlus, I always liked Brenda.

They made their most interesting character more boring as the show went on, I thought


GravatarNSA doesn't do nearly as much for tracking down terrorists as it does leakers, journalists and Democrats.

See, who says our spooks can learn?
This is old tricky dick stuff.


GravatarShocked, but most likely, not surprised.


GravatarHe's safe while he's not yeswithstanding.
Ruth


You made me LOL.


Gravatarthis is also an example of insane

( I apolgize but it's too good)



Drudge says: "SOURCES: BUSH PLANS NATIONAL GUARD ON BORDER"

All I gotta say is..

It's about time!

As long as he doesn't propose amnesty too, this should be a magic bullet that will send his job approval up to 45% by June.
Gary


GravatarI miss Six Feet Under, too.

I really didn't think the last season was all that depressing.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:28 pm | #


Best. Finale. Ever.


GravatarMaybe both?
VV, ready for anything


Maybe one as a result of the other. Chicken, or egg?


GravatarMaybe both?
VV, ready for anything


most of the lush's i know are a little meshughanah


GravatarIt's a mad mad world, and you can't really blame Tice for going a little under now can ya?

I'm half ways to batshit crazy myself sometimes, that is until I fire up some grits and browns and get my coffee up.


GravatarUmmm. with 29% approval ratings I am not sure that scaring people about impeaching the bastard is that good of a strategy.


Seems to me that this is what people WANT.


GravatarYep. There was that great moment when he figured out what was going on and said "Who the hell are you?" and she answered "I'm the woman who fucked you in a closet two hours after we met without knowing your name."

That was such a great scene. I liked the whole "See Emily Play" vibe of early Brenda.


GravatarCall folks nigger a lot, do you? I asked nicely.

and I was offering an explanation, not persisting. Kindly back away from the vehicle.


Gravatarmost of the lush's i know are a little meshughanah
olexicon,Sir Humpty | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:37 pm | #

My grandma is fond of wine in a box.


Gravatarthanks jello, I'm copying that for my email.

Who do you thiink reads Tweety's emails?


GravatarI am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.


Gravatar' he saw NSA technicians set up a room at the company’s San Francisco switching station to tap into the phone calls and e-mail traffic '

gotta stop gay marriages before the Rapture.


GravatarAnd what evidence does Twatty Tweety offer to support his tacit claim that whatever the NSA is doing now would have stopped 9/11? That is meaningless, garbage rhetoric. It's entirely hypothetical to claim it would stop a similar attack now, for pete's sakes. Much less one that happened!


GravatarYou do know that's the oldest smear trick in the book, don't you?

grandma's senile.


GravatarMrs. Gummo has decided that Matthews must be getting monthly brainwashing treatments; towards the end of each 30-day period it starts to wear off and he starts making sense; then he gets his shots and turns back into the wingnut we know and loathe.
Gummo


Best explanation I've heard so far.


Gravatar'I am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out'

Careful reading at the description of the poll will show you it was taken Thursday.


Gravatar"I'm the woman who fucked you in a closet two hours after we met without knowing your name."

Eli, are you fantasizing again???


GravatarMy grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything


I once spent an afternoon in University driunking Wine from a Box in a coffee mug and listeneing to sinatra, there were other people there,however
lmakes it less lushy


GravatarI am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out


Wait 'til you tell them bank records are next. Then pause, then tell them it's already happening.


GravatarSo, Tweety, Bush should get credit now for having a spying program that nobody can say would have stopped 9/11, and nobody can say will stop any future attacks, either? How's that, again?


GravatarSince when is calling for impeachment "left wing behavior"? Don't tell Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde.


GravatarI don't recall ever reading in the papers of the Founders of some absolute, non-negotiable choice between rights and safety.

That's right.

Matthews' vile question is just script-reciting on behalf of the fundies because (they never cease to claim) each human life is "priceless."

It's a total pile of crap, of course. Always has been.


GravatarI am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government. -Sallyh

Sallyh - the merest glance at their sample size, methodology and wording of questions will reassure you.


GravatarJust yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"

I so wanted to bitchslap my tv while that was on. In what universe could that have POSSIBLY happened? Surely not the one where those same people didn't think "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US" was important enough to, y'know, read.


Gravatarlet the discovery begin!

excellent.


GravatarRuth--true. But it may take a bit of time to sync up disapproval of Chimpy and disapproval of illegal activities, which is important.


GravatarMy grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything


So is Stephanie Miller.


GravatarMy grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything


So is Stephanie Miller.


Gravatar""If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?""

or if we had a competent national security advisor who took the warnings seriously;

or if we had a vice president who had convened any meeting of his national security team in the 9 months preceeding the wtc attacks;

or if the fbi had taken the threat analysis of its local agents seriously;

or ... well, you get the idea. there were many other alternatives that negate the need to spy on americans. not to mention that the datamining being done now is more useful after the fact, and highly unlikely to be useful in preventing a terrorist attack.


GravatarI'm probably the only person on the planet who liked it, but I really was upset when they cancelled "The Comeback."
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:29 pm | #

Oh, I loved 'The Comeback.' Talented but rather desperate woman squeezed out by network idiots. Too good to last, I guess.


GravatarAnd what evidence does Twatty Tweety offer to support his tacit claim that whatever the NSA is doing now would have stopped 9/11? That is meaningless, garbage rhetoric. It's entirely hypothetical to claim it would stop a similar attack now, for pete's sakes. Much less one that happened!

Exactly So!


GravatarI'm half ways to batshit crazy myself sometimes, that is until I fire up some grits and browns and get my coffee up.
grandma's own cooking


Funny (ymmv) thing about that. I have been drinking a pot of espresso every morning. The last few days I've been going back to bed and sleeping like a log for an hour or two after coffee -- unprecedented.

I think I bought decaf espresso by mistake. I'm lucky I'm not in a coma.


GravatarSallyh, I think the question was framed poorly. If the question had been:

Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?

Might have had a different percentage, you know?


GravatarJeffCO--you're right. I just peeked.

Talk about lame.

That'd fail my intro class.


Gravatar I miss Six Feet Under, too.

I really didn't think the last season was all that depressing.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:28 pm | #


Best. Finale. Ever.
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:37 pm | #



Agreed on both counts. TV viewers need more tolerance for honest real life darkness/sadness/difficulty.


GravatarI once spent an afternoon in University driunking Wine from a Box in a coffee mug and listeneing to sinatra, there were other people there,however
lmakes it less lushy
olexicon,Sir Humpty | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:39 pm | #

That sounds delightful, actually.

I miss college. Thinking of going back, actually . . .


GravatarI loved "Oh, Madeleine!' with M.Kahn. Talk about your brief runs!


GravatarMaybe Tice is a nice man, we should give him the benefit of the doubt.


Gravatar I am intensely disturbed that 2/3 of the polled public is comfortable with the illegal activities of the secret government.
Sallyh, Long Knives Out


If the questions were asked over the phone wouldn't that fundamentally undermine the honesty of the answers? It's just so creepy. Even if right now, we're only being told it's just call data - who calls whom - so many must suspect there's more. Lots more.


GravatarSallyh, I think the question was framed poorly. If the question had been:

Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?

ecks-fucking-zactly, can we commission a poll? I'll chip in, with Zogby or somebody?


GravatarSallyh, I think the question was framed poorly. If the question had been:

Are you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?

ecks-fucking-zactly, can we commission a poll? I'll chip in, with Zogby or somebody?


GravatarYou know, this "Frist" bs is getting old.


GravatarOh, I loved 'The Comeback.' Talented but rather desperate woman squeezed out by network idiots. Too good to last, I guess.
PSR


Holy shit I thought I was the only one!

I thought there was a lot of satirical stuff going on there related to pop culture.

Mr. Litz hated it though. But then, he likes Deadwood.


GravatarSallyh - the merest glance at their sample size, methodology and wording of questions will reassure you.
JeffCO


and the fact that the story broke as people were off to work and the poll was taken last nite. hardly enough time for the respondents to be informed of the particulars.


GravatarAre you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?

Might have had a different percentage, you know?
DWD


I can make it easier than that:

"Are you comfortable knowing the government has this information but not knowing who they are letting look at it?"


GravatarHeadline of the Day:

Christian Virgins Are Overrated

Over a Morford column, natch...


GravatarOh, and that hightly-touted Conference Board's consumer confidence bullshit just took a hit:

The University of Michigan consumer sentiment index fell to 79.0 in May -- it's the lowest level since October's 74.2 reading -- from 87.4 in April. Economists expected a much smaller decline to about 86.4, according to a survey conducted by MarketWatch.

"We think this drop reflects the sudden surge in gas prices," said Ian Shepherdson, chief U.S. economist for High Frequency Economics. "If sentiment stays at this level -- it might even decline further -- you should expect a serious slowing" in consumption.


GravatarNot me, Daddy - I expected it. I think there are all kinds of things going on that once the air hits them they will smell so bad that Mr. Bush is going to run away run away...


GravatarLet's hope this guy doesn't have some kind of car accident comeing up here. Stay alive, man.


GravatarBushco is very good at branding their critics as insane or unbalanced. They learned it from Krauthammer, who was only self-diagnosing. Bush has dismantled most of the apparatus needed to defend us against terrorism, including the CIA and the NSA, as well as his now-famous apppointments of those most like him (incompetent boobs) to run FEMA and other once-important lifesaving agencies. Nobody hates like a Bush family member, especially the sociopathic failure that has stolen the White House and used his power against American citizens far more effectively than against non-domestic enemies. We have a president that hates Americans unless they are rich and white and suck him off publicly. Grandma is just an idiotic sychophant without an original thought, full of the fear that Bush has created by his own incompetence.


GravatarI'm probably the only person on the planet who liked it, but I really was upset when they cancelled "The Comeback."
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:29 pm | #
Oh, I loved 'The Comeback.' Talented but rather desperate woman squeezed out by network idiots. Too good to last, I guess.
PSR


I liked it a lot, too. It made me uncomfortable, and in general I think that happens with things that authentic in some way. Plus I think she's pretty damned good.


GravatarI so wanted to bitchslap my tv while that was on. In what universe could that have POSSIBLY happened? Surely not the one where those same people didn't think "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US" was important enough to, y'know, read.

And I'm sorry to say all of you guys have better responses than the one Ben Veniste garbled out. He was totally mealy mouthed.


GravatarI so wanted to bitchslap my tv while that was on. In what universe could that have POSSIBLY happened? Surely not the one where those same people didn't think "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US" was important enough to, y'know, read.

And I'm sorry to say all of you guys have better responses than the one Ben Veniste garbled out. He was totally mealy mouthed.


GravatarEven if right now, we're only being told it's just call data - who calls whom - so many must suspect there's more.

Using traffic, and social networking analysis software, you can do a lot with just that.


GravatarMr. Litz hated it though. But then, he likes Deadwood.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:42 pm | #


I love, love love LOVE Big Love.

Beyond good TV. It's pretty much all I watch anymore.


GravatarMr. Litz hated it though. But then, he likes Deadwood.
Litz | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:42 pm | #


I love, love love LOVE Big Love.

Beyond good TV. It's pretty much all I watch anymore.


GravatarAre you comfortable with the government spying on everything that you do for unknown purposes in violation of the Constitution of the United States?

The base will simply retort, "Well, if you don't have anything to hide, what's the problem?"


Gravatar"Oh, I loved 'The Comeback.'"

Holy shit I thought I was the only one!


Nah, I got a kick out of it, too.

I also like "Entourage" - can't wait for "Aquaman" to open!


GravatarHas anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?

Never again.


Gravatari wonder if any of us would be shocked if we found out the NSA was spying on us?

in the past i've expressed this, and some have poo pooed that notion. why would they care about us?

but bush is a mean, petty, vindictive bastard, and i'm sure he does not take kindly to being called a war criminal, and a fuckwit hundreds of times daily.

if i had to bet money i'd say all the communications here are catalougued. why not, i have some of them on my own hard drive.


GravatarMy grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything


I once spent an afternoon in University driunking Wine from a Box in a coffee mug and listeneing to sinatra, there were other people there,however
lmakes it less lushy
olexicon,Sir Humpt

'
Ah, nostalgia!



GravatarDo these Dubya attaboy pundits ever realize what we had to pay in blood and treasure to get us to the point where wholesale pilfering through telephone records is not cool?

Oh, but Dusty Foggo's buddies would never sell that valuable information to insurance companies, or the like.


GravatarThat'd fail my intro class. -Sallyh

Exactly - they didn't even include the standard question asking how familiar the respondent was with the topic. They gave them forced choice false dichotomies and the only information they provided were WH claims of what's being done. Plus a sample size less than half of what's normally done. No legitimate excuse for publishing it.


GravatarA friend of mine is considering having an affair.

If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?


Gravatar"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11...

But that's what I keep saying! We didn't NEED it! We already had FBI agents warning about known terriss learning to fly planes but not land them, and PDB's saying Osama wanted to strike in the U.S. and all sorts of other stuff!

BushCo doesn't give a shit about protecting Merkins. They want to grab more power, plain and simple.


GravatarUsing traffic, and social networking analysis software, you can do a lot with just that.
Doug


Sadly, No! had a good post about "Enemyster."


GravatarFresh Loud Obbs:
QUICKVOTE
Do you support using the United States military to secure U.S. borders?
Yes
No

The Bush answer for everything.


GravatarHahaha.

Mr. Litz on the news that Deadwood has been cancelled:

"That sucks. Maybe something new and profane and ultra-violent will come along."


GravatarSo will we ever find out the details of these "programs"?


GravatarJust yesterday he was badgering some democrat "If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11, wouldn't it be worth it, huh, huh, wouldn't it, don't you think?"

Didn't the program allegedly start BEFORE 9/11? I seem to recall reading that...


GravatarCongressDaily reports that former NSA staffer Russell Tice will testify to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week ...

If he lives that long.


GravatarI love, love love LOVE Big Love.

My wife likes it. I'm glad to see Bruce Dern working.

But I don't see how they can keep it going, story-wise, much beyond two seasons.


Gravatar'You made me LOL.
Virginia, grizzled'

i confess to conscionable behavior.

Sallyh, it took forever for Nixon finally to be detested, dispised and dethroned, but it finally happened.

Oh, heck, gotta run off now.


GravatarJoe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!


GravatarHas anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?

Never again.


A friend of mine told me how she went to visit her mother shortly after Mother's Day and saw some awful looking flowers. She asked, "What are those?" And her mom said, "Those are the flowers that you send me every year."

That was the end of that practice.


GravatarJenny--Proflowers is excellent.


GravatarDoug -

I know that call info can tell a lot. I've seen it used in law enforcement - it's a very powerful tool for breaking up organized crime. Unfortunately, it can also be used to crack down on other organiziations (Democrats, quakers, random dissidents) and if the gov't doesn't care about the 4th amemdnment controls, it's utterly totalarian.


GravatarVV,
I am also a huge fan of Big Love, which has Thers a mite concerned.


GravatarJoe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!
catalexis


so he;s saying run like you always have even though people are sarting to hate it


GravatarNever again.
Jenny from the Blog


You know who is great? Calyx and Corolla. Gorgeous stuff delivered in perfect condition when promised. A little pricey, but worth every dime.


Gravatar You know, this "Frist" bs is getting old.

Best of luck ridding us of the Worst Scourge Ever To Face Humanity. Lemme know how your War on Prostituion works out, too.


GravatarVV,
I am also a huge fan of Big Love, which has Thers a mite concerned.
NYMary |


O me too. I love that show. I just love it.


GravatarI am sick and tired of lazy trolls who won't even bother to deny the criminal behavior of their cult leaders. We already know everyone not in their cult is insane or liars - why won't they tell us something new?


Gravatar"If we had this program in place in 2001 and it prevented 9/11...

"Prevented 9/11! Hell, they had nine months of warning, what the hell makes you think THIS would have made any difference?"

Easy answer. Yet somehow Tweety never faces anybody with even that much sense.


GravatarI'm watching "Nixon". If Baby Bush's administration is twice as corrupt as Nixon's was, we're in for some hellacious impeachment hearings.


GravatarMy grandma is fond of wine in a box.
VV, ready for anything


Whine in a box? She likes Chris Matthews?


GravatarBTW, for all of you "Deadwood" fans mourning its apparent cancellationa after this season, I have three words for you:

"Deadwood: the Movie."


Gravatardave--go to www.glackware.com

They have a "Abstinence is for Virgins" T shirt.

I got my granddaughter the "Dingo Snack!" one.

Sick, but funny.


GravatarA friend of mine is considering having an affair.

If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse | 05.12.06 - 5:45 pm | #


Just say no is all I got on that. I've no tolerance for cheating.


GravatarNYMary (if you're still here)

How are your children?


Gravatar
You know who is great? Calyx and Corolla. Gorgeous stuff delivered in perfect condition when promised. A little pricey, but worth every dime.
Virginia, grizzled | 05.12.06 - 5


I get their catalogs - you aren't kidding. Those are the most gorgeous flower arrangements I've ever seen. They are pricey, but Wow!


GravatarI also like "Entourage" - can't wait for "Aquaman" to open!


Yeah, I like it OK. I think Adrian Grenier is teh hot.


GravatarI love, love love LOVE Big Love.

VV, I started watching it 'cuz of nothing-else-on syndrome. Kept watching it because I hated the whole premise and wanted to keep watching these people suffer.

Now I am having sympathy for Barb, Wife #1. And Bill Paxton always knocks me out -- even when I don't like the character he's playing.


GravatarThey have a "Abstinence is for Virgins" T shirt.

That's right up there with "Rehab is for quitters."


Gravatar"the War oN mother's daY"


GravatarSatellites, huh?

I wonder if they saw me do that thing to that person that time.


GravatarHas anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?

Never again.
Jenny from the Blog

Okay, need a new strategy quick.....


GravatarTena and VV,

Aparently, we haven't even begun to see the nastiness of Nicki.

And how long until Ben sleeps with Marjean?


GravatarI'm watching "Nixon". If Baby Bush's administration is twice as corrupt as Nixon's was, we're in for some hellacious impeachment hearings.
Monica_A: Bon Vivant



My fellow Americans,

We are at war. During war time, intelligence gathering is a necessary and important part of my Article II powers. That is why I have sent a crack team of operatives into the Wategate Hotel to bug the offices of the enemy, the Democratic party.


GravatarVV,
I am also a huge fan of Big Love, which has Thers a mite concerned.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:47 pm | #

My sis looks a bit like Chloe Sevigny . . .

But I would probably sell an ovary to have Jean Tripplehorne's hair. Lovely.


GravatarI got my granddaughter the "Dingo Snack!" one.

Have you seen the "They Shake Me" shirt? I was going to get it for my son, but Mr. Monica objected.


GravatarAnd Bill Paxton always knocks me out

He had me at "Aliens".

"GAME OVER, MAN!"


GravatarI love, love love LOVE Big Love.

Ditto.


GravatarJoe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!

Hence Monday night's speech.


GravatarI'm watching "Nixon". If Baby Bush's administration is twice as corrupt as Nixon's was, we're in for some hellacious impeachment hearings.
Monica_A: Bon Vivant


Nixon didn't have 9/11 to back him up. We may be too much a nation of bedwetters these days for Bush to have to face the music.


GravatarRIP not only irony, but the quaint Ye Olde Searche Warrante.

I actually heard an apologist on radio today say, "No worries! It's only the numbers. Not the names"

First off. That's a damn shitty way to ID terrorists, if you don't even bother to figure out who the phone number is connected to.

Secondly. It's the same level of galling stupidity as someone claiming it's only the Social Security numbers. We don't deal in names.

How much of this nonsense are we going to take?


GravatarDembyDefault -- Quick! To the pajamagram or Vermont Teddy Bears site!


GravatarIf you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse

Don't fall in love!


GravatarAnd I'm sorry to say all of you guys have better responses than the one Ben Veniste garbled out. He was totally mealy mouthed.
Neponset


and that is why he, deedee myers and bob shrum are repeatedly booked to represent the democratic side.


GravatarAnd how long until Ben sleeps with Marjean?
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:50 pm | #

Heh. I was wondering about that. I don't think it will ever really happen but I like how they use him to show just how young Marji really is.


GravatarHas anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking

organicbouquets.com


GravatarHe had me at "Aliens".

"GAME OVER, MAN!"
watertiger | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:50 pm | #


"We're on an express elevator to hell... going down!"


GravatarWayne Madsen was reporting on a NSA employee stripped of clearance and forced into psychiatric examination because of refusing to go along with spying programs.

Madsen also reported during the Bolton hearings that Hayden was using satellites to spy on American citizens, claiming NSA was conducting training exercises, but then passing the conversations and other electronic communications along . . .
.


Gravatarrepublicans:
Defiant Ney gets ovation from fellow Republicans

House Republicans gave Rep. Bob Ney (R-Ohio) a standing ovation after he told them yesterday that he has no plans to resign and will vigorously fend off a likely federal indictment.
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/e...1106/ news2.html

This is too funny:
“Dead man walking,” one Republican lawmaker said afterward.


Gravatarsallyh,
Proflowers also support Air America.

Not trhat I'm going to get multiple mortgages or use ProActive zit cream based on this, but still.


GravatarSo will we ever find out the details of these "programs"?
Halfdan


From the link I posted:

...Afran said that he and Mayer will also ask for documents dealing with the origination of the program and President Bush's role in the program.



in other words, no.


GravatarAnd Bill Paxton always knocks me out

He had me at "Aliens".

"GAME OVER, MAN!"


Hopefully that will be the NeoCon line next week.


GravatarI wonder if they saw me do that thing to that person that time.

I hope I can get video of that.


GravatarDon't fall in love!
swampy mcfeverish | 05.12.06 - 5:51 pm | #




Would that it were so easy to command our feelings, no?


GravatarOK... "glackware.com" just takes me to a parking site. Try again?


GravatarAnd what evidence does Twatty Tweety offer to support his tacit claim that whatever the NSA is doing now would have stopped 9/11?

If Bushco didn't cancel the active FBI investigations into terrorism that were going on (the FBI were looking at very suspicious financial transactions of certain rich Saudis, as I recall) and the powers that be actually used the LEGAL powers that were already had available to them, then one could say the same thing- 9/11 would have been stopped. They were aware of who many of the bad guys were. They just didn't do anything to stop them.


GravatarI love Big Love, too. Hubby seems to like it, too, but he's an honorary lesbian so you can't go by him.


GravatarMy baby's momma is an LMT and very much into essential oils. As I was trolling last night, I vaguely recall her saying she wanted something that smelled good for Mother's Day.

Any suggestions, seriously, I'm at a loss.

I can only mix so many Mother's Day CD's and get away with it.


Gravatarscout is also a Big Love fan.


GravatarWayne Madsen was reporting on a NSA employee stripped of clearance and forced into psychiatric examination because of refusing to go along with spying programs.

What happened to our country?


GravatarIf you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?

Constant worry over being busted? Disease issues? Expensive divorces?


Gravatar"We're on an express elevator to hell... going down!"
rorschach | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:51 pm | #


I liked on Family Guy when Stewie went into the whole "Game Over Man" schpeil.

Classic.


GravatarJoe Scaryboy :Lurch to the Right! Run Hard right! Attack! Attack! Attack! That's how you win!

Not if you are a Democrat.


GravatarA friend of mine is considering having an affair.

If you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse


It's never worth it unless the person really is looking for an excuse to end their marriage. Even then, it is terribly unfair to at least one person out of the 3, and it usually hurts all 3.


GravatarO me too. I love that show. I just love it.
Tena


It basically is nothing more than a soap.

(I love it)


GravatarHe had me at "Aliens". "GAME OVER, MAN!" watertiger

He didn't win you over with his star turn as Chet in Weird Science?


GravatarCheating is nobody's business but the cheaters'.


GravatarI love Big Love, too. Hubby seems to like it, too, but he's an honorary lesbian so you can't go by him.
Virginia, grizzled | 05.12.06 - 5:52 pm | #


For a while there, I was calling it the "Bill Paxton's Naked Ass" show.

But dang, for however old BP must be by now, he has an award-winning ass.


GravatarI'm with ror. That's the ultimate in selfishness.


GravatarI'm with ror. That's the ultimate in selfishness.


Gravatar Has anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?

What I've found is the best way to do it is to go directly through a local flowershop. They always have really talented people who are just dying to get the chance to do something creative and fun. Just give them vague instructions and your price range. It's a winner every time.


GravatarI hope I can get video of that.

Check with Negroponte.

Wow, just fucking rain already! My head can't take the pressure no more!


GravatarBush wanted to protect America with a Missile Shield before 9/11.

Now he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.


GravatarIf you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?
TinyPorcelainMouse


Watch that scene in Unfaithful when she compares it to taking a pottery class and her friend corrects her, pretty emphatically.


GravatarAny suggestions, seriously, I'm at a loss.

French lavender.
.


GravatarWould that it were so easy to command our feelings, no?

You can have the Emotion Chip removed from your Positronic Brain.


Gravatar"' -- you should expect a serious slowing" in consumption.'"

--pie

We certainly have cut back, and we don't even have much debt.


GravatarIt basically is nothing more than a soap.

(I love it)
ql in ny | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:53 pm | #


Me too- It's my mormon soap.


GravatarIf you could have an infidelity tip line (leaving out "just say no"), what would it be?

Too much work.


GravatarA friend of mine is considering having an affair

Your friend has already made their first mistake.

If two people know a secret, that is one too many.


GravatarNot trhat I'm going to get multiple mortgages or use ProActive zit cream based on this, but still.
NYMary


Sometimes I'm afraid that Wendi Friesen is going to *get* me.


GravatarJust say no is all I got on that. I've no tolerance for cheating.
rorschach

I'm a one woman man and am only interested in love but it wasn't always that way - there was a time in my life when my hormones got the better of me (and a few others I might add)


GravatarNow he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.
cheney_usa


Does this mean the brain cloud didn't work?
.


GravatarI'm thinking we should encourage the debate on the facist thinking that is doing the frog boil thing. Hey, I got it let's let cops be cops, you have nothing to hide right? The police should just do a full house by house room by room through the whole country till we get those bad guys! RFID chips for everybody! You have nothing to hide right? What do you mean too far? Why do you hate America?

The hemming and hawing would be hilarious!


GravatarWayne Madsen was reporting on a NSA employee stripped of clearance and forced into psychiatric examination because of refusing to go along with spying programs.

I'm seriously considering sending copies of 1984 to some folks in gov't with key passages highlighted for them.


GravatarHas anyone ever sent flowers by FTD? That company is a joke. What was I thinking?

1-800-Flowers has always given me good service.


Gravatar"When they look at you, they see what they want to be. When they look at me, they see what they are."

Great line! I actually feel sympathy for Nixon. It's probably Sir Anthony's portrayal.


GravatarBut dang, for however old BP must be by now, he has an award-winning ass.

hey, ease up. he's only 50. That's the new 30, apparently.

It's not like he's Michael Douglas.


GravatarWhat I've found is the best way to do it is to go directly through a local flowershop. They always have really talented people who are just dying to get the chance to do something creative and fun. Just give them vague instructions and your price range. It's a winner every time.

I was just gonna say that... so let me reiterate it.

Ditto!


GravatarJenny from the Blog, after having some bad luck with online or national florist services, we started calling local florists. We were able to get first-hand info, and it felt like more of a personal touch.

For our daughter's grad school graduation, I called Winston Flowers in Boston for an arrangement to be sent before we got there. They were incredible.


GravatarAll Your Phone Records Are Belong To Us.


GravatarNow he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.

The "cone of silence" from "Get Smart" is what they rate.


GravatarIt basically is nothing more than a soap.

(I love it)


Oh absolutely. To be fair, most series are, but some are more so than others and that one definitely is. But I cannot stop watching it - it is compelling.

That and Entourage - I love that damn show so much. There are HBOs shows I can live without, but it hurts me terribly to lose Deadwood, and losing Entourage would just kill me.


GravatarVerizon being sued for $5 billion over NSA.


GravatarFrench lavender.

Anything by L'Occitane.

Um...where are you again?


GravatarIt's never worth it unless the person really is looking for an excuse to end their marriage. Even then, it is terribly unfair to at least one person out of the 3, and it usually hurts all 3.
Tena | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:53 pm | #

God, that's so sad.

My grandfather cheated on my grandmother (my dad's parents- this isn't box wine grandma, this is jilted fundamentalist tightwad grandma).

They got a divorce in 1965. Not a great year to be divorced in middle America.

But then, the issue was not really the infidelity- the infidelity was caused by my grandmother's depression, which caused her to choose celibacy in her marriage, which caused grandfather warren to screw around.

Sad sad sad. But at least today maybe they could have gotten some counseling . . .

Infidelity, if you ask me, is a symptom.


GravatarThen of course, there's Julia Roberts' Love is Nice:

Homer: "Hey, don't blame me, this movie is tired and predictable. You know she's going to wind up marrying Richard Gere." (audience gasps in surprise)

Dr. Hibbert: "I thought she was going to wind up with that rich snob."

McAllister: "Ably played by Bill Paxton."

Homer: "That's Bill *Pullman*, you fool!"


GravatarNYMary,

Really! How are the kids?


GravatarFrench lavender.
.
Grand Moff Texan


I'm interested. Please tell me more. Worst. Present. Buyer. Ever.


GravatarI was just gonna say that... so let me reiterate it.

I did, and so I did.


GravatarToo much work.

Heh. That's what Thers says.

Tena's right; an affair is only worth it if you're out the door anyway. Otherwise, it's just hurting someone more than you need to for your own sanity.


Gravatarin other words, no.

Thanks.


GravatarOT: What I've been waiting for: Helen Thomas vs. Tony Snow Round 1.

When Helen Thomas asked what he'd do to make President bush more "credible," he replied curtly, "I'm not going to answer questions about credibility."



GravatarI'm a one woman man and am only interested in love but it wasn't always that way - there was a time in my life when my hormones got the better of me (and a few others I might add)
swampy mcfeverish


O me too - and many more times than a few and that's how I know it isn't conducive to good marriages when one of you is dating, too.


GravatarLet's hope the guv'ment is more competent at keeping this guy alive until he testifies than they have been in the rest of the war on terror, or Irag, or Afghanistan, or Al-Queda (you pick).


GravatarThe Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.


GravatarDefiant Ney gets ovation from fellow Republicans
House Republicans gave Rep. Bob Ney (R-Ohio) a standing ovation after he told them yesterday that he has no plans to resign and will vigorously fend off a likely federal indictment.


Normally, I admire moxie; this time, not so much.


GravatarYou know who is great? Calyx and Corolla.

That's true, I used to order stuff from them all the time.

Keep in mind when you are ordering flowers, however, that a lot if not most flowers are grown and harvested in Third World countries where the workers are mostly women and they suffer under really inhumane working conditions. Plus, a lot of these big operations use all sorts of environmentally damaging chemicals that have been illegal here for years.

Hate to be a buzzkill, just sayin' ...


GravatarCheating is nobody's business but the cheaters'.
ronjazz | 05.12.06 - 5:53 pm | #


Um, and the one who's being cheated on, yes?


Gravatarhey, ease up. he's only 50. That's the new 30, apparently.

It's not like he's Michael Douglas.
watertiger | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 5:56 pm | #


He's 50, Marjean is 25.

Holy cow.


GravatarThe Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.

They'll use it as a perk, soft duty, the way German soldiers were offered the camps. If they objected, it was off to the Russian front. Now, of course, we have the revolving, never-ending Middle East Wars.


GravatarVerizon being sued for $5 billion over NSA.

That explains the call left on our answering machine offering this great new deal.

We have Vonage, but many of us, including the immediate family, have Verizon for cells, which we decided to do for the free-calling option.


GravatarFlip-side, loves. IT'S FRRRIIIIIIIDAY NIGHT!


GravatarThat and Entourage - I love that damn show so much.

We discontinued HBO when our local cable co. required a digital gizmo on every TV in the house on which you wanted to watch it. For a small fee. My wife and I agreed we'd get the Sopranos, 6FU, Entourage, and Curb Your Enthusiasm seasonal DVD's.

We haven't yet. It's been 2 years.


GravatarWould that it were so easy to command our feelings, no?
VV, ready for anything

Yeah. It'd be nice if as you got older you had more control o=ver them - I have more control over myself but not my emotions - they still rage like when I was 17 -


GravatarThanks, all. I had a bad feeling about it, but their whole schtick is their network of local florists. I figured how hard would it be to deliver a dozen roses to my mom? Lots of florists in Boca Raton, for cryin' out loud. Or West Palm Beach, or wherever.

They shipped the flowers fed-ex from memphis to gainesville to ft. lauderdale back to gainesville and they're still sitting on a truck somewhere.

What a joke. They will arrive dead or nearly dead. I'm asking for my money back. Cripes, I could have called a local florist myself, for crying out loud.


GravatarI miss Clinton so much!


GravatarThe Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border.

In that case can someone explain to me why Hispanic radio hosts in L.A. are encouraging their listeners to name their children after him?


GravatarVerizon being sued for $5 billion over NSA.

Bust 'em down to a single phone booth in Provo, Utah!


GravatarNSA Whistleblower To Expose More Unlawful Activity: ‘People…Are Going To Be Shocked’

What would rate as "shocking"? If it turns out Bushco was using the information they were getting to spy on political opponents and reporters.

I personally wouldn't be surprised, but that certainly would be an atomic bomb as far as scandals go.


GravatarNYMary,

Did I anger you in some way? I swear I haven't flirted with Thers.


GravatarThere's a major difference between having control over one's feelings and one's behavior. Just sayin'.


GravatarInfidelity, if you ask me, is a symptom.
VV, ready for anything


Her first sights were set on me..., me? Says alot. Anyway, once she realized how much I dig Wife #1 the most, she backed off.

Problem is, her husband is teh awesome. Great friend, father and husband as far as I know.

The whole situation sucks. I generally dislike people and their dramas. Secretly I want her to get caught...thinking about planting a few Milwaukee's Best in their fridge the next time the husband is out of town, watch the sparks fly and laugh.


GravatarI had to keep Halfhalfdan home from school today, so we made Mama a Mother's Day card using the color printer and some construction paper. For an actual present, hmmm. Haven't thought that far ahead. There's a bottle of champagne in the fridge.

(Actually, I made the card and she ate the glue. Fun anyhow.)


Gravatarthanks for the therapy bats - gonna' go cook supper and try to be funny tonight - wish me broken legs!


Gravatarjenny from the Blog: You're quite right. With online Yellow pages, you can find a good florist, local to your recipient, in a jiffy. For the cost of a call, magic!


GravatarYou know, most people don't like George Bush. Except for a few whack jobs on the right.


GravatarWhat would rate as "shocking"? If it turns out Bushco was using the information they were getting to spy on political opponents and reporters.

Are you kidding me? Rove, et al, grew up worshipping the Plumbers, and the only thing they reviled Nixon for was giving up.


GravatarThere's a major difference between having control over one's feelings and one's behavior. Just sayin'.
JeffCO | 05.12.06 - 6:02 pm | #

Surely, surely.

A friend of my dad's "fell in love" with his current girlfriend while his wife was newly pregnant with their second daughter.

Some of the most depressing delivery room photos I've ever seen.


GravatarNow he wants to protect America with a Listening Shield.
cheney_usa

Does this mean the brain cloud didn't work?


Mr. Litz and I are installing a Cone Of Silence over our home.


GravatarI'm a one woman man and am only interested in love but it wasn't always that way - there was a time in my life when my hormones got the better of me (and a few others I might add)

friend of mine, who's been married 7 months (with her spouse for 6 years prior to the wedding), discovered "polyamory" through a book called "The Ethical Slut." Now, with the grudging acquiescence of her husband, she's experimenting with sleeping with another guy. She claimed it gives her a Zen attitude about relationships, and she enjoys a certain detachment. She is now slowly realizing that it may not be all that and a bag of chips.

Y'know, you invite another person into your marriage and you're multiplying the problem you're not addressing tenfold.

Yes, some people can live like that, in a commune of love and sex, swapping partners and reveling in their freedom, but a fair majority of people are not socialized in that way.


GravatarThe Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.

The idea of this president using military troops within the borders of the country for any reason scares the crap out of me. Bad precedent. Bad, bad, bad.


GravatarMonica_A,

No! Sorry, chica, didn't see your comment. We're fine, mostly, though we're having night-waking troubles. The kids seem to have inherited Thers's seasonal alergies, and they're bad this year, so Rosie, for example, wakes herself coughing about once an hour.

Poor kid. And I'm not as sympathetic as I should be because I'm sleep-deprived.


GravatarBush is announcing "the global war on mexicans" on monday


Gravatareah. It'd be nice if as you got older you had more control o=ver them - I have more control over myself but not my emotions - they still rage like when I was 17 -
swampy mcfeverish



Mine too, but in a way that's preferable to the alternative.

I go through protracted periods where I really chafe at being married and I fantasize about getting into trouble like I used to.

I guess the saving grace is that I don't have the offers all the time like I used to.



GravatarBy the way, I haven't kept up with comments since I'm still on the phone with FTD, but I'll look back and write down all your suggestions!

Thanks guys... and for the moms out there...

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!


GravatarThe whole situation sucks. I generally dislike people and their dramas. Secretly I want her to get caught...thinking about planting a few Milwaukee's Best in their fridge the next time the husband is out of town, watch the sparks fly and laugh.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 05.12.06 - 6:03 pm | #


Oh, man. That's so sad . . . here's hoping you don't get too caught up in it. It's so unfair of someone to tell you a secret like that- eventually her husband is gonna find out that you knew of her intentions and that is not gonna be fun.


GravatarYou know, most people don't like George Bush. Except for a few whack jobs on the right.

Heh. Indeedy.


GravatarNo legitimate excuse for publishing it.
JeffCO

or repeating it dozens of times today.

why does the press so kiss his ass?


Gravatarsince i will only be here briefly on sunday
HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL THE MATRIOTS


GravatarDrunk drivers kill a lot more folks than terrorists ever did. How 'bout we bring back Prohibition and enforce it with NSA tapping?

Wonder if that would finally bring the point home?

Nah, probably not.


Gravatarwatertiger,
I've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.


GravatarYou know, most people don't like George Bush. Except for a few whack jobs on the right.
catalexis


Unfortunately every damn one of them has a talk show.


GravatarY'know, you invite another person into your marriage and you're multiplying the problem you're not addressing tenfold.


So true, and so is your last observation in that comment that people aren't socialized that way. If you grow up where something like that is a norm, you probably develop a different psychological reaction to it. We're programed from the beginning it seems to me to be monogamous by western culture.


GravatarBush is announcing "the global war on mexicans" on monday


OMG stock up on tequila PRONTO! Er, I mean, NOW!


GravatarThis is too funny:
“Dead man walking,” one Republican lawmaker said afterward.
hadenough


Anyone who wants to help my congressman, Bob Ney, make that long walk can donate to Zack Space's campaign.

From what I know he's a pretty good guy; met his wife while working as a public defender, shared a law practice with his dad that specialized in consumer protection law -- not bad progressive credentials for someone from our conservative area . . .


GravatarHate to be a buzzkill, just sayin' ...
Litz |


Damn you, Litz! Damn you to hell!


GravatarNow, with the grudging acquiescence of her husband...

That makes a big difference. Take the lying and sneaking around out of infidelity and then it's more a relationship choice. Probably a poor one most of the time, but informed at least.


GravatarI guess the saving grace is that I don't have the offers all the time like I used to.

This aging shit is a mixed blessing, indeed.


GravatarAll right, batties. I'm outta here.

Gotta go cheat on my wife! (Yeah, right.)


GravatarHalfdan: loved your comments on local florist's dying not to make another FTD "Mums in a coffee mug" bouquet. For gardeners, a gift Cert or card from anice local nursery can make someone very happy, too. I miss my Mom.


GravatarI've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.

The movie "Kinsey" is a good lesson in that. Sex can satisfy us or destroy us.


GravatarThe Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.

Where do we keep getting all these troops? Mexico? Oh, wouldn't *that* be ironic in a brainier age!


Gravatarthinking about planting a few Milwaukee's Best in their fridge the next time the husband is out of town, watch the sparks fly and laugh.

That could backfire. I'll never forget the story of the perfect couple, high school sweethearts, with great children in their teens who lived in Ankeny, IA. She started an affair with her hubbie's best friend. Hubbie set up a hidden video camera in their bedroom, where sshe and the guy met during the day (Oy). One morning, he got up, shot her, his two kids (son and daughter), called the cops, and then killed himself.

He not only knew what was going on.
He watched a damn video.

Affairs? No fucking way. Heartbreak and tragedy.


GravatarSo ...Let's review ... Doug Feith, the leading edge of our developing response policy to terrorism in the early days following the hijacked take down of "several" buildings at and surrounding the World Trade Center, at the Office Of Special Plans seriously suggested "we" the people of this sovereign nation, through our Department Of Defense of the United States of America, first focus and strike target locations in Paraguay. His support and attempted sale of these "ideas" was based on his reasoned belief it would surprise international terrorists organizations throughout the world and put them on notice that United States was serious when dealing with terrorism. Ohhh Boy! Am I surprised the NSA management personnel has been continually instructing staff to circumvent reliable oversight mechanisms within the intelligence field of american government? ... nope ... but it is just another example of what a pathetic shambles this freedom loving and promoting country really is and has become.


GravatarSo ...Let's review ... Doug Feith, the leading edge of our developing response policy to terrorism in the early days following the hijacked take down of "several" buildings at and surrounding the World Trade Center, at the Office Of Special Plans seriously suggested "we" the people of this sovereign nation, through our Department Of Defense of the United States of America, first focus and strike target locations in Paraguay. His support and attempted sale of these "ideas" was based on his reasoned belief it would surprise international terrorists organizations throughout the world and put them on notice that United States was serious when dealing with terrorism. Ohhh Boy! Am I surprised the NSA management personnel has been continually instructing staff to circumvent reliable oversight mechanisms within the intelligence field of american government? ... nope ... but it is just another example of what a pathetic shambles this freedom loving and promoting country really is and has become.


GravatarI've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
NYMary


Ummm, I've seen one that did. Not indefinitely, but for a period.


GravatarBeen afk for a while, and just saw the thread about John Gibson below.

I realize it's after the fact, but I think it's worth mentioning that John Gibson is an asshat.

That's all. Thanks.


GravatarBoy, the last sentence in that last comment of mine really sucked. I'm sorry. It sucked so bad it didn't make sense, ultimately.

Bah.


Gravatarwait ...the guys whoi come back from three prolonged tours of duty in Iraq...would then work the borders?


GravatarThis aging shit is a mixed blessing, indeed.
NYMary


yeah it sucks, but there are more than a few saving graces along the way.

If there weren't, who'd do it?



GravatarSo true, and so is your last observation in that comment that people aren't socialized that way

I picked up a copy of the book so I could at least understand where she's coming from.

I appreciate the authors' attitudes about sexuality, but as far as the whole "open marriage" thing goes, it's not for me.

I mean, unless you're getting married for tax purposes or for a green card, why bother?


GravatarI guess the saving grace is that I don't have the offers all the time like I used to.

no it's not..

it's my own problem, but i resent getting older.

then again there is the titty bar, where all the girls like you.

for the record i don't really hang out there much, but sometimes the other old guys force me... yeah, that's the ticket.


GravatarGotta go cheat on my wife! (Yeah, right.)

Oops, that's my cue to leave!

[kisses Miriam chastely on the cheek]


GravatarWell, I see I didn't miss fitzmas while I was at my board meeting today.

GODDAMNIT!!

indict the fucker already.


GravatarIf you grow up where something like that is a norm, you probably develop a different psychological reaction to it. We're programed from the beginning it seems to me to be monogamous by western culture.
Tena


Well, that's what's interesting about Big Love to me. Barb wasn't socialized to polygamy and Nicki was (Marji wasn't, but her background is different, I've read), but I don't see that Nicki's better at it, or less jealous. Barb really sems very calm and accepting, though sad for what's been lost. Nicki plays the politics, including the fake attempt to get pregnant.


Gravatarwatertiger,
I've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
NYMary


Ditto, someone always winds up getting hurt. Let's face it, one of the main perqs of being married is that you have someone firmly, undividely in your corner. Adding a third party necessarily dilutes that relationship.


GravatarMaria del Nueva York,

Have joo tried procuring honey from a local apiary, (or local store that carries same) and giving the leetle one two teaspoons per day?

Thees regimen has done wonders for a humano of my acquaintance.

so.


GravatarThis is going to be such a tar baby. Militarizing the southern border ineffectively is going to backfire, doing so with the numbers to be effective will be confrontational as all get out. Did KBR finish building those concentration camps yet?


GravatarSpeaking of dating woes . . .

I have an offer (already?!) for a beer date in a week or so (Next weekend).

Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?


GravatarIt's so unfair of someone to tell you a secret like that- eventually her husband is gonna find out that you knew of her intentions and that is not gonna be fun.

Exactly - anyone not wanting to get caught keeps it to him- or herself. My response to being put in those kinds of positions is to say that depending on the issue I am fine not volunteering information, but asked a direct question I'm not going to lie about it. I'm generally in favor of encouraging intra-relationship communication, in particular *before* someone decides to violate trust. Afterwards I don't have a 'right' answer.


Gravatar Halfdan: loved your comments on local florist's dying not to make another FTD "Mums in a coffee mug" bouquet.

Thanks. I learned that one from an ex-girlfriend who worked in a flower shop.

Sorry about your mom, though.


GravatarI realize it's after the fact, but I think it's worth mentioning that John Gibson is an asshat.


Besides, sometimes it's just fun to mention the obvious.

In case anyone forgets.


GravatarI mean, unless you're getting married for tax purposes or for a green card, why bother?

Exactly. And it may work *for a while*, but there's something to that saying: two's company, three (or more)'s a crowd.


Gravatarwe do it nice cause we do it twice ...must be haloscans motto


Gravatari gotta go put food on my family. back in a bit.


GravatarAffairs? No fucking way. Heartbreak and tragedy.
pie


The Milwaukee's Best was an inside joke. This would never happen, the guy's first wife cheated on him and it nearly crushed his soul.


GravatarI've never seen open marriage work, and I've known quite a few who tried it.
NYMary

I think the couple has to stop sleeping together and have a really big mortgage with both of their names on it.


For a duplex.


GravatarI don't mean to sound prissy or sanctimonious but I have made it a cornerstone of my personal philosophy to not interfere in other people's relationships and family life if at all possible.

I do not tell secrets.

I correspond by email with the youngest daughter of one of my closest friends. They both know I will not reveal anything to her mother that she doesn't want me to.

I do not stick my nose in even where I see something I think is wrong - like substance abuse. I do not believe in interventions outside of family only. It's none of my business.


GravatarDitto, someone always winds up getting hurt. Let's face it, one of the main perqs of being married is that you have someone firmly, undividely in your corner. Adding a third party necessarily dilutes that relationship.
ql in ny | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:13 pm | #

Unless both people somehow are able to completely dehumanize sex, I doubt that it's possible.

And I really doubt that you can truly dehumanize sex.


GravatarUmmm, I've seen one that did. Not indefinitely, but for a period.

Yeah, I guess. The divorce usually comes down the road a piece, from what I've seen. Someone usually wants to stop before the other person does, however, and that's never good.

I do know one pair of couples who did this, and all four of them (and their kids) lived together for a while, then both couples divorced and remarried the other direction. I guess that's sort of successful....


GravatarHeh. Randi playing Bush saying "I don't e-mail, however. And there's a reason: I don't want you reading my personal stuff."


GravatarI have an offer (already?!) for a beer date in a week or so (Next weekend).

Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?


Nope. You can only slow down your reaction to it. So say no.


GravatarSpeaking of dating woes . . .

I have an offer (already?!) for a beer date in a week or so (Next weekend).

Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?


Quit whining, dearie. Soon enough time will creep up on you (like the rest of us old fossils) and the highlight of YOUR week will be sci-fi blogging too.



GravatarThe Milwaukee's Best was an inside joke. This would never happen, the guy's first wife cheated on him and it nearly crushed his soul.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 05.12.06 - 6:15 pm | #

Oh my God. Poor guy.

Here's hoping it works out in the best way possible for all involved . . . which will probably still suck a lot . . .


Gravatar"Can anything in my life just happen slowly for once?"
--VV, ready for anything


Not if you're hot. And it seems you are.

If you want to go say, yes. If you don't say, no.


GravatarAnd I really doubt that you can truly dehumanize sex. ~ VV, ready for anything


*ahem*

Joo mean "de-personalize" eet?

eh?


GravatarMilwaukee's Best

What a coincidence. I'm writing a piece about Milwaukee's best. For next week.


GravatarWell, I don't have much advice to give on the subject of marriage.

I'm singularly bad at being married.


GravatarNope. You can only slow down your reaction to it. So say no.
NTodd, Pervizzle | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:17 pm |



We'll see how I feel next week . . .


Gravatara'ight

peace and humptiness forever

have a fabulous weekend


GravatarNot to be sanctimonious either but I've found that there are very few things in life I do perfectly. I'm a lousy cook, a lousy housekeeper, a terribly absent-minded father, and sometimes distracted at work.

But if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.


Gravatar* S: (v) dehumanize, dehumanise (deprive of human qualities) "Life in poverty has dehumanized them"
* S: (v) dehumanize, dehumanise (make mechanical or routine)



I think that works.


GravatarThe Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.

The idea of this president using military troops within the borders of the country for any reason scares the crap out of me. Bad precedent. Bad, bad, bad.
Neponset | 05.12.06 - 6:05 pm | #

How much do you want to bet they'd also "control the border" with Mexico on this side, too, meaning people approaching it from the north would have to explain what they're doing or go through some extra controls? Earlier today, I read something about a film director who's having trouble going to Cannes because the Dept. of Homeland Security has put some sort of hold on his passport. What kind of crap is that?


GravatarClinton gets higher poll ratings than Bush on honesty

.


GravatarWe could all go vote 'no' and tourture Loud Obbs just for old time's sake. Huh? Huh? Can we?


Gravatareh?
¡El Gato Negro!

one last thing
is el gato secretly candian?


GravatarEl Gato,
I have not, but perhaps I will. I thought honey was a really common trigger, though?

Anyway, Sean's done nursing and the sun is making my screen glare, so I'll sign off. Besos, all!


GravatarWhat is Ralph Reed hiding?
.......... Lobbyist and Lt. Governor candidate Ralph Reed keeps telling Georgia voters he wants to discuss his "past work as a consultant" "squarely and forthrightly (Source: Ralph Reed, Remarks to TeenPact, December 9, 2005)." However, Ralph's public activities show he continues to do everything possible to avoid answering any real questions about the clients he has worked for and the services he has performed as a multi-million dollar lobbyist.................
http://www.theweekly.com/news/ 20...interviews.html.


GravatarAnd I really doubt that you can truly dehumanize sex. ~ VV, ready for anything


*ahem*

Joo mean "de-personalize" eet?



Well, gato, santorum and cornyn have been able to dehumanize it. I think they prefer it that way.


GravatarWell, that's what's interesting about Big Love to me. Barb wasn't socialized to polygamy and Nicki was (Marji wasn't, but her background is different, I've read), but I don't see that Nicki's better at it, or less jealous. Barb really sems very calm and accepting, though sad for what's been lost. Nicki plays the politics, including the fake attempt to get pregnant.

I agree and one of the show's subtexts I think is how this kind of situation plays out exactly like one imagines it would, with a constantly shifting two against one energy and lots of jealousy.

Could you explain something to me? Is Nicki taking birthcontrol? It sure looks like it. She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?


GravatarThis aging shit is a mixed blessing, indeed.
NYMary

yeah it sucks, but there are more than a few saving graces along the way.

If there weren't, who'd do it?

Tena


"Grow old along with me, the best is yet to be,
The last of life, for which the first was made."

Yeah, but what did Browning know?

"Old age that is tied to me as to a dog's tale."

That's more like it.


GravatarI think that works. VV

You're such a speciesist.


GravatarWell, see you guys later.


GravatarCould you explain something to me? Is Nicki taking birthcontrol? It sure looks like it. She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:20 pm | #


Yeah, she's requesting more nights with Bill (meaning more power and an edge over the other wives) because she claims she is trying to get preggo. But she's on the pill, so she can keep doing it as long as possible.


GravatarThe Lou Dobbs crowd is 100% for sending troops o the Mexican border. Tired troops with frayed nerves on the border. Sounds like a plan.

Those idiots have any idea how long that border is, and what it looks like? River bed. Mountains. High desert.

Troops? From Brownsville to San Diego? Don't make me laugh.


GravatarTroops? From Brownsville to San Diego? Don't make me laugh.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:22 pm | #


You and your facts.

Facts have a liberal bias, you know.


GravatarCould you explain something to me? Is Nicki taking birthcontrol? It sure looks like it. She pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena |


She's pretending to be trying to get pregnant, but obviously she's not. It was definitely birth control, and definitly hidden. But as long as they think she's trying, she gets all kind of leeway.

But then last week she told him she spent the night in a shelter, and then she pulled out a receipt from a hotel. Which means she not only lied, but must still have held a credit card back.


GravatarA joke, bonita.

perrrhaps made too soon, yo disculpeme.

so.


GravatarSomeone usually wants to stop before the other person does, however, and that's never good.
NYMary


I think it's generally not a great idea. A lot of the difficulties might be dependent on the power differential in the relationship. I'm just saying, anecdotally (and unlike that HUD guy I know what the word means) that if people are securely attached and not inclined toward jealousy, that it can work.

Again, I'm not advocating it.


GravatarBTW, I think Ang Lee's The Ice Storm (though not generally well-received) does a nice job on the infidelity issue with its 70s era key party scene.


GravatarBut then last week she told him she spent the night in a shelter, and then she pulled out a receipt from a hotel. Which means she not only lied, but must still have held a credit card back.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:23 pm | #

Oh, THATS what that was about?

I thought it was that she and Bill had stayed in a hotel together, like when he and Barb had their affair.

That makes so much more sense.

What a bitch!


GravatarWhat is Ralph Reed hiding?

Laugh of the day!


Gravatar"Big Love" sounds like the opening to "Anna Karenina." Don't remember where, now, but I heard an interview with a wife in a polygamous marriage. She was very happy, as were the other wives. She said new wives got along with the old ones, or they didn't last long.

Somehow I don't think you could play many games in such an arrangement and have peace. Either everyone would leave, or someone once in a while would realize they weren't welcome.


GravatarI'M SHOCKED! Shocked.

Just saying.


GravatarWhat a bitch!

Oh, yeah. She's her father's daughter.


GravatarWe're programed from the beginning it seems to me to be monogamous by western culture.
Tena

but not by biology, there is the rub.

chimps are the most promiscuous ape, humans are second.

gorillas don't count, they keep harems.


GravatarBTW, I think Ang Lee's The Ice Storm (though not generally well-received) does a nice job on the infidelity issue with its 70s era key party scene.
JeffCO | 05.12.06 - 6:24 pm | #


I love that sex scene in the car. Brief, awkward and unsatisfying- and they both realize how totally not worth it the whole thing was.


Gravatarrmj, I prefer this from a plaque we bought on our honeymoon 32 years ago:

Do remember - to forget
Anger, worry, and regret.

Love while you've got love to give.
Live while you've got life to live.
-Piet Hein


For you, VV.


GravatarOh, yeah. She's her father's daughter.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:26 pm | #

Roman makes me squirm. Especially with that young wifey of his. *squirm squirm*

Ugh.


Gravatarfinal wash out on infidelity. dont promise things you're unqualified to promise.


Gravatar Brief, awkward and unsatisfying- and they both realize how totally not worth it the whole thing was.

I like it when he tells the hippie minister he shouldn't be there and he admits he's right.


GravatarRoman makes me squirm. Especially with that young wifey of his. *squirm squirm*


Yep, they don't get much creepier.


GravatarBTW, I think Ang Lee's The Ice Storm (though not generally well-received) does a nice job on the infidelity issue with its 70s era key party scene.
JeffCO





pretty depressing film eh? lot of alienation.


Gravatarthat if people are securely attached and not inclined toward jealousy,

Not inclined toward jealousy?

Then either they don't truly care for that person, or they're not human.


GravatarOK BOBO.......JUST QUOTED THE WAPO POLL ON MERKINS 66% WANTING TO BE SPYED ON............................EVIL EMAILS TO HIM.........NOW HE JUST SAID ABRAMOFF WAS ONLY AT THE WHITEHOUSE TWICE........................L......I........A.... .R!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarOT:

In between Verizon's pre-existing crapulence and the latest data mining abomination, Jen and I have been shopping around for an alternative.

We just signed up for Vonage VoIP and will be punting Verizon. If anyone else is considering going to VoIP, we will be happy to report on how the service is. So far, setting it up was a breeze. Not many phone calls yet, though, since the new phones need to be charged first....

Does feel good being able to ditch Verizon though...


GravatarFor you, VV.
pie | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:26 pm | #


Thanks, baby.


GravatarDavid Brooks is so full of shit I can smell it from here. He is in rare form even for him. Oh my god.


GravatarOh, VV, that young wife is bad news. She's a thief and a liar and totally amoral under that face.


Gravatarlot of alienation.

but we now know what to do with alien nations, have more babies.


Gravatar"I married a slut for christ" is one of the best films about infidelity.


Gravatarpie--I'm glad one of us is dealing in sage advice.

I was just being grumpy.


GravatarBut then last week she told him she spent the night in a shelter, and then she pulled out a receipt from a hotel. Which means she not only lied, but must still have held a credit card back.
NYMary


Oh yeah.

I know she went to a hotel which means she has a card. I just could not figure that birth control thing out, but I guess we'll find out.


GravatarI say Kos last night at his appearance here. He was really good. I watched him with people and spoke to him briefly, and I thought he was quite genuine and generous with people. Haven't read the book yet.


GravatarCancel your Verizon, ATT&T, and BellSouth.

Is that a terrible sacrifice?

Then write to your representatives, Repub or Dem, and tell them to suck it. They'll know why.

This is an emergency. Am I wrong?

I ask you, AM I WRONG?

Peace.


GravatarI love that sex scene in the car. Brief, awkward and unsatisfying- and they both realize how totally not worth it the whole thing was. -VV

It's all in the timing. Like, for example, taking a minute to have that realization beforehand and then not going through with it can make for far less pain. Of course there are some experiences we really need to go through to figure out that we don't want to keep going through them, but I suspect there are far far fewer of those than we like to tell ourselves.


Gravatar"I married a slut for christ" is one of the best films about infidelity.
earl 'cliche' guevera


The story of Hosea, right?

(Sorry. Obscure and slightly off Biblical joke.)


GravatarThe story of Hosea, right?

(Sorry. Obscure and slightly off Biblical joke.)
Rmj, Wandering Aengus



oh yeh i remember that one now!


GravatarShe pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena


Yup. I think she is just using this pregnancy thingy to get extra time and try to gain an advantage. That is one cynical woman. She lies more in one episode than I have in a lifetime.


GravatarShe pulled out that packet that looked exactly like birth control and took one. What the fuck is up with that?
Tena


Yup. I think she is just using this pregnancy thingy to get extra time and try to gain an advantage. That is one cynical woman. She lies more in one episode than I have in a lifetime.


GravatarDavid Brooks is so full of shit I can smell it from here. He is in rare form even for him. Oh my god.
Neponset


On NPR earlier I thought he was approaching sounding like a sane person, although a person who had an ideology firmly implanted in his ass.


GravatarDo remember - to forget
Anger, worry, and regret.

Love while you've got love to give.
Live while you've got life to live.
-Piet Hein


My greatuncle (who just passed away) loved Piet Hein. He was a great man.

Thanks.


GravatarOh, VV, that young wife is bad news. She's a thief and a liar and totally amoral under that face.
NYMary | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:29 pm | #

Yeah, those super-privileged Mormon girls tend to be like that.

I'm wondering- the show is soooo well researched. As someone who lived near Mormon communities for most of my life, I wonder what the background is on the writers. They have it DOWN!


GravatarI'm going to eat something and watch my Netflix movie.

'night, all!


Gravatarhttp://money.cnn.com/2006/05/12/...dex.htm? cnn=yes

'Stocks sank for the second straight session Friday as inflationary concerns weighed heavily on investors, with the Dow industrials down more than 260 points over the two-day drubbing.'


GravatarI was just being grumpy.

We all feel like kicking and screaming on a given day.

Tomorrow will be better.


GravatarBOBO...JUST SAID HE WENT TO CAPITAL HILL AS...............WAIT FOR IT.....................MR. SUNSHINE

i watch so you dont have to


Gravatarsittenpretty,

are joo watching Lerher?

So I don't have to?

gracias.


GravatarI suspect there are far far fewer of those than we like to tell ourselves.
JeffCO | 05.12.06 - 6:30 pm | #

I think some people are just less able to make decisions like that- they have to just let things happen to them and deal with the consequences.

Thankfully I'm a pretty cautious person . . .


GravatarDo remember - to forget
Anger, worry, and regret.

Love while you've got love to give.
Live while you've got life to live.
-Piet Hein


Let us go, then, you and I
when the evening is spread out against the sky
like a patient etherized upon a table.
...
I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas

It's not getting any better, is it? Drat!


GravatarNim, keep me appraised, please.


GravatarNim, keep me appraised, please.
DWD


Okay. You're down by a buck and a half.

If you want that in writing, you'll only be down by a buck and a quarter.


GravatarLet us go, then, you and I
when the evening is spread out against the sky
like a patient etherized upon a table.
...

That one's my favorite.

Sigh. What a beautiful poem . . .


GravatarThanks.

You're welcome.

I've looked at that hundreds of times when times were tough, and it's helped me to keep my perspective.


GravatarWow, I just read the gaggle transcript at First Draft. This is Holden's fondest wet dream. Snowjob is completely incompetent. Just at the time that the administration is self-destructing, too.

Just wow.


GravatarSigh. What a beautiful poem . . .
VV, ready for anything

And I have seen the Eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker


GravatarLet us go, then, you and I
when the evening is spread out against the sky
like a patient etherized upon a table.


Oh, that's a keeper to be sure.

Keep it to yourself.


GravatarHeh. Big Love thread.


I don't watch the show, but I saw Anderson cooper do a whole special about mormons and polygamy and this nut on the FBI 10 Most Wanted List.

I was trying to explain to my friend who just arrived from India what Mormonism is and who this loon is and the "10 Most Wanted List," and got on to talking about Waco and Koresh and what happened there.

Then Anderson Cooper asks a cop what would happen if federal agents try to arrest this psycho at his compound in Texas, right now.

He gave a one word answer:

"Waco."

Totally creepy.


GravatarI think some people are just less able to make decisions like that- they have to just let things happen to them and deal with the consequences.

There's a qualitative difference between going with the flow mindfully and with awareness versus allowing oneself to be swept along by the current by default. We're free to do anything along that spectrum, but I tend to think we do what we do until we decide to do something else. That is, it's all choice.


GravatarYou beat time on my head
With a palm caked hard by dirt,
Then waltzed me off to bed
Still clinging to your shirt.


GravatarAre you kidding me? Rove, et al, grew up worshipping the Plumbers, and the only thing they reviled Nixon for was giving up.

Max Planck


Why the hell do you think I put the word shocking in quotes and added the comment "I personally wouldn't be surprised, but that certainly would be an atomic bomb as far as scandals go" ?


Gravatarsittenpretty,

are joo watching Lerher?

So I don't have to?

gracias.
¡El Gato Negro! | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:35 pm | #

**************************
Si pretty kitty
BRIAAAAAAAAAN williams is speak with forked tounge
no wonder the merkins dont know shite from shinola
newshour is no better sigh


GravatarNim, we did have some preliminary problems with Vonage. Email me and my husband can fill you in if you have questions.


GravatarGod save Friday Nudibranch Blogging!

I mean it, man.


GravatarOk, I see that ql and VV answered the birth control thing while I was saying hi to my husband.

Thanks - I get it now. D'oh - how can I be so dense?

But if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.
Halfdan


I don't know if you are still around, but that is just damned beautiful.


GravatarSi, Newshour used to be a beet better when MacD=Neil was there.

Eet may take years to clean PBS of all the hacks foisted on eet by el Chimperador.

so.


GravatarC'mon RMJ, I am tired and it is Friday and my kids was bad and the administration is evil. Should I have used apprised?

Oh well, what the A.


GravatarC'mon RMJ, I am tired and it is Friday and my kids was bad and the administration is evil. Should I have used apprised?

Oh well, what the A.
DWD


Just enjoying the vagaries of the language.


GravatarBut if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.
Halfdan

I agree with Tina. Very nice.


GravatarBut if there's one thing I know how to do, it's being loyal to my wife. I figure if I can stay in love with her, all my other faults in life will be forgiven.
Halfdan


I feel the same way, but didn't realize it 'til you expressed it so well. Thanks.


GravatarParaphrasing but I read this two-line poem in my literature book I read during teachers;' meetings.

The English lady is so kind
But no bosom and no behind.


GravatarOn NPR earlier I thought he was approaching sounding like a sane person, although a person who had an ideology firmly implanted in his ass.

According to His Boboness this whole NSA thing is fine with the folks. He had that 63% approval number ready to whip out. Security is a good issue for Bush. He may have some other issues but this is gonna blow over. May even help a bit.


GravatarSi, Newshour used to be a beet better when MacD=Neil was there.

Eet may take years to clean PBS of all the hacks foisted on eet by el Chimperador.

so.
¡El Gato Negro! | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:45 pm | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
pretty kitty
it has become the comedy news hour
because,they cant be for real
eh comedy is tradgedy and visa-versa
too bad we are living it
or we could laugh more,no?


GravatarSundays too my father got up early
and put his clothes on in the blueblack cold,
then with cracked hands that ached
from labor in the weekday weather made
banked fires blaze. No one ever thanked him.

I'd wake and hear the cold splintering, breaking.
When the rooms were warm, he'd call,
and slowly I would rise and dress,
fearing the chronic angers of that house,

Speaking indifferently to him,
who had driven out the cold
and polished my good shoes as well.
What did I know, what did I know
of love's austere and lonely offices?
-Robert Hayden


GravatarFor some reason, every time I take a particular bus in the evening, two Mormon missionaries get on it too and bug the rest of the passengers 'witnessing'. Man, are they aggressive! And as far as I know they haven't converted anybody yet.


GravatarRMJ( My bad, btw. I thought they were spelt the same way with pronunciation dependent on situation.)


GravatarPhila like the George Herbert.

In case you missed it earlier, Friday Baby Blogging
Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:50 pm | #


GravatarRMJ( My bad, btw. I thought they were spelt the same way with pronunciation dependent on situation.)
DWD


Someday the difference will be no difference at all.

Thus is the perversity of language.


GravatarRMJ, I always like purify and putrify.


GravatarGod fucking damn it. Congress, get off your collective ass and kick these freaks to the curb. For the rest of us, if Congress won't do it's job, then elect people who will.
B1 Bummer

-Republican Congress: Support the President!

Democratic Congress: We're going to fight for you...in the 30th Century...well, we can't do it NOW 'cause that wouldn't be civil.


GravatarPhila like the George Herbert.

Ya got me dead to rights.


Gravatar"I mean it, man."
--Phila

Friday Nudibranch Blogging! One of the most gorgeous creature sites on the internet.


Gravatar
I don't know if you are still around, but that is just damned beautiful.


Thanks.


GravatarI just wrote to Lou Dobbs. What an idiot I am!

I wrote something like,

"Yeah Lou! That's great! The Kent State solution! Send the troops in and kill a few people. It ended the war in Vietnam, and maybe now it will end the fear of the scary brown people and their spicy food. Because as even the simpleton Ronald Reagan might have learned, you can't 'kill 'em all.'"

Really we've got to use the power of the internets to tell these whores to suck it. Otherwise we're just pissing in the wind. No offense to anyone, but this could be a powerful tool....

Love you all. Peace.

-Speedy


GravatarRemember the Will Smith/Gene Hackman film Enemy of the State?

I remember thinking it was overly alarmist.

Of course, that was back during the Clinton presidency, when a haircut taken at the wrong time and place was the cause for outrage in the media.

To summarize: breaking the law to spy on the American citizenry - OK.
getting a haircut on Air Force One- utterly despicable.


GravatarWhat are you thinking? What thinking? What?
I never know what you are thinking. Think.

I think we are in rat's alley
where the dead men lost their bones


Gravatar20 bucks say Tice does not make it to the hearings next week


GravatarAnd Lou Dobbs is an incredible xenophobe.


GravatarI hope someone offs the traitor.
.


GravatarI will be back with some more pronouncements later


GravatarI hope his threat holds and his evidence is good, because I want to see this Administration get the true justice it deserves for the harm it has inflicated upon this nation and the world. Before I start to celebrate, however, the cynic in me wonders why would someone leak that he has bombshell information before he actually gives testimony of same. I should think if he witheld his information this long, why not wait one more week? Why give the enemy an inkling of your intentions?

Hopefully my cynicism will be misplaced this time and the information bears fruit, so that they all get sent to Abu G. on the Potomac.


GravatarKatherin Harris: Pistol-packin' mama!

Bill Bunting, the Pasco County Republican leader and the course instructor, said he has been encouraging Harris for months to take the class.

"During the first Bush (presidential) election, people forget how quickly she had all those death threats on her life," Bunting said. "You never know if there's a nut out there."


Nope. You never know.


Gravatar I am a traitor.

the Right tells me so.

I am hate-fueled and angry.

the Media has so described me.

And now, finally...


Gravatarsekmet, I have had a Jehovah Witness woman follow me around from three moves over the last 28 years. She is really nice, and I usually answer the door when she comes by and chat, but today I hid in my office. I couldn't handle it.


GravatarI am a terrorist

Thus has the security apparatus of my country accused me.

Like a child called "Bad boy", a description becomes prediction.


GravatarHarris has a great bod, but that interview appearance she made right after she got enhanced was the most disturbing thing I've ever seen.


GravatarI guess the National Guard will stand down as the border patrol stand up. Or something.


GravatarI keep repeating:

"I have nothing to hide. What do you?"

You have LOTS to hide.

Liberal secrecy in the face of the biggest threat this nation has ever faced will not be tolerated by most right-thinking Americans.
.


GravatarOften beneath the wave, wide from this ledge
The dice of drowned men's bones he saw bequeath
An embassy. Their numbers as he watched,
Beat on the dusty shore and were obscured.

And wrecks passed without sound of bells,
The calyx of death's bounty giving back
A scattered chapter, livid hieroglyph,
The portent wound in corridors of shells.


Gravatar God save Friday Nudibranch Blogging!

I mean it, man.
Phila


Cool nudi, Phila.

But don't forget to ask people to scroll down to Friday Hope Blogging, which is right below the nudi.


GravatarA Time for Heresy
Bill Moyers
March 22, 2006

.......fundamentalists; they believe in the absolute inerrancy of the Bible and the divine right of preachers to tell you what it means. They also believe in the separation of church and state only if they cannot control both. The only way to cooperate with fundamentalists, it has been said, is to obey them. ....................It was in the name of Jesus that the young priest John Ryan – ten years before the New Deal – crusaded for child labor laws, unemployment insurance, a minimum wage, and decent housing for the poor. And it was in the name of Jesus that Martin Luther King Jr. went to Memphis to march with sanitation workers who were asking only for a living wage.
This is the heresy of our time – to wrestle with the gods who guard the boundaries of this great nation’s promise, and to confront the medicine men in the woods, twirling their bullroarers to keep us in fear and trembling. For the greatest heretic of all is Jesus of Nazareth, who drove the money changers from the temple in Jerusalem as we must now drive the money changers from the temples of democracy.
http://www.tompaine.com/ articles..._for_heresy.php


GravatarThere is a very loud amusement park right in front of my present lodgings.


GravatarFantastic poem, Jeffers.


GravatarI hope someone offs the traitor.

David Patterson | Homepage | 05.12.06 - 6:57 pm | #


That ees no way to talk about jour President.

Stop that right now.

so.


GravatarI hope someone offs the traitor.
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David Patterson

Be careful for the karma


GravatarLittle Brother,

Do you know that you're quoting my favorite novel?


Gravatar"we must now drive the money changers from the temples of democracy."

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And that would be the Clintons, the Reids, The Pelosis of this world.
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GravatarI ain't shockable anymore.

But I'm sure these fascist bastards will come up with something to make me take that statement back.

Everytime I think they've done their absolute worst, they turn around and dig a little deeper into the bag of dirty tricks!


Gravatarcarl to be indicted


GravatarParodyson's Web site is as valid as his parody viewpoint.


GravatarLiberal secrecy in the face of the biggest threat this nation has ever faced will not be tolerated by most right-thinking Americans.


STFUAD!


GravatarMr. Patterson,

Now that the media and my government have defined me as an traitorous, angry, hate-fueled terrorist, I'd be careful if I were you.


GravatarHow this for shocking, liberal: you and your kind rounded up for treason in wartime. I am glad the surveillance of the people will expose the traitors among us.
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GravatarOkay. Boca Raton Florist. Lovely little shop.

And FUCK YOU FTD!!! Can I have the last hour of my life back?

Ahem.

I've written down all your great ideas for the future... And why I didn't ask y'all for advice in teh first place I'll never know.


GravatarLou Dobbs is a tool as all the major media heads are tools or they wouldn't be there. And that includes Keith O., whom I love.

Oh fucking jesus, "Heroes" now on CNN.

Heroes=It's YOUR MONEY!

It's your money. It's. Your. Money. Your. Money. Your. Money. It's your money. You're a hero with YOUR MONEY. You're a hero. It's your money. It's your money. It's your money. Your money. Your money. Your money. Heroes. Money. Your money. You're a hero. It's your money.

I'm a hero and it's my money.

I'm NOT a hero and it's your money. It's everybody's money. Everyone's a hero. Take your fucking money. Now. Take it and go. With peace.


GravatarThe Anonymous was mine.

Damn HELL-o-scan!


GravatarHarris has a great bod...

I'd hit dat!


Gravatarapologies for last post -

karl rove to be indicted.

there, thats better.

anyone hear this on randi rhodes. i didn't get the source


Gravataryou and your kind rounded up for treason in wartime


Ain't gonna happen, Davey Boy.

Give it up!


GravatarYou think if I could print up 25 million t-shirts with the words "I Am a Terrorist" I could get Americans to wear them?


GravatarAny heads on pikes yet?


GravatarGoddam, somebody get this guy a few bodyguards, and tell him to stay away from small planes and elevators.
Dave J.


Somebody tell him to keep away from microphones. I dunno...I hope I'm wrong, but I'm getting a bit of a publicity-seeker vibe from this guy. He supposedly was demoted and then fired for doggedly insisting a coworker was a Chinese spy. We need a good reporter on this one. Sy? Peter? Dana? Anybody?


Gravatarkarl rove to be indicted.

there, thats better.

anyone hear this on randi rhodes. i didn't get the source
GORT | 05.12.06 - 7:05 pm | #

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There's your source RIGHT THERE! The left liberal fever swamp!

Haaaahahahahahaahahaaaaa.
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GravatarChecking out a DVD I bought on e-bay the other day:

A 1951 Bette Davis flick called "Payment on Demand."


Gravatar apologies for last post -

karl rove to be indicted.

there, thats better.

anyone hear this on randi rhodes. i didn't get the source
GORT


I heard this too, but also didn't get the source.


GravatarNow as I was young and easy
under the apple boughs about the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
the night about the dingle starry,
Time let me hail and climb
Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the
apple towns
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
Trail with daisies and barley
Down the rivers of the windfall light.


GravatarOh boy. Saddam has a book, the wingers heads will spin anew that such as he might have his words appear in any place but a court transcript.

In other news, we're getting real good at taking out #3's, just got one of ours too. --heh


GravatarYou think if I could print up 25 million t-shirts with the words "I Am a Terrorist" I could get Americans to wear them?
Pope Ratzo


I'd wear one.


Gravatarnot the shocker!?!


GravatarAnyone know if Cingular is a subsidiary of ATT or did ATT sell that cell biz to Cingular? I want my $1,000. Thanks


Gravatar"Saddam has a book"

I'll bet he's more lucid than Bush.


GravatarSeeing as it's Friday, would it be wrong to start cocktails an hour early?


Gravatar"Saddam has a book"

I'll bet he's more lucid than Bush.
Terry C, One of the 71% | 05.12.06 - 7:08 pm | #

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Liberals worship terrorists and dictators who gas their own people.
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GravatarTweety sux and is stoopid.


GravatarAright, folks- I'm out . . . for my first Friday night solo in about 7 months.

Hm.

I'll fill y'all in later.

Love,
VV


Gravataroh davie -truthout.org has is the source. read and weep backwash of america


Gravatar"Anyone know if Cingular is a subsidiary of ATT or did ATT sell that cell biz to Cingular? I want my $1,000. Thanks
ErinPDX
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Cingular got assimilated into the borg.


GravatarParodyson's Web site is as valid as his parody viewpoint.



That asshole has a website?


GravatarWire services are reporting that Saddam's Nukes have been found buried in the Syrian desert.


GravatarHere's the Jason Leopold story saying Rove has told Bush he'll be indicted:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/ 051206Y.shtml


GravatarJust like Guy Fawkes, we should all get t-shirts or buttons that say "I am a Terrorist".

I swear to God it's time for us to start tearing this entire system down. The more I try to find something good about it the more disappointed I become.

No election is going to get us there. No blogs, no op-eds. It really is time for lots and lots of people, in the street.


GravatarMaybe it'll shock the 'bottie?


Gravatarevening moonbats