I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
I bet even I would poll higher than George, and I'm snakey.
Morning moonbats
I'm curious, though, about the reasons for not loving George. It seems that most people follow nothing in politics. Is it just the gas prices they are angry about?
But, but, Clinton got a blow job. Doesn't that count for anything anymore?
Heehee, I bet he got more than one.
Morning, Grotesqueticle. It's gloomy and raining here so the window cleaners canceled and then my mom will come for a visit and she will start cleaning windows.
I never found Clinton handsome. Never. But I guess he is better looking than Curious George.
ql,
as I said below, thai would be fine with me.
Since when did our host start early birding, it was such a nice, if depresssing conversation we were having below.
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Choke on it freepi.
It helps to have the stock market and dollar plummeting, but even the clinically insane notice that they can't afford gas and their un-happy meals are tacking on a transportation surtax.
Now I get it. The immigration ploy is to get welfare benefits cut. So these sneaky illegals who are here in too large numbers for us to send them back home won't live off the public benefits. I'd heard that no. from freeper relatives - who email anecdotes about organized immigrant community use of our welfare benefits [and schools and free emergency rooms]. Cuter.
When asked which man was more honest as president, poll respondents were more evenly divided, with the numbers -- 46 percent Clinton to 41 percent Bush -- falling within the poll's margin of error. The same was true for a question on handling national security: 46 percent said Clinton performed better; 42 percent picked Bush.
Vestigual remains of a massive PR campaign.
I imagine that the cognitive dissonance on these questions will evaporate in time.
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But, but, Clinton got a blow job. Doesn't that count for anything anymore?
Heehee, I bet he got more than one.
Clinton went to Washington and got a blow job in the Oval Office.
Bush went to Washington, got in the Oval Office, and fucked the world.
The perfect shirt:
http://www.goodsforchange.com/
it...ush_lost_iraq_1
That'll choke some repukes.
Those numbers are really good numbers for a Gore run. If people are nostalgic for Clinton then the next best thing is Al Gore and not Hilary. I like it!
Damn tags, sorry.
I never found Clinton handsome. Never. But I guess he is better looking than Curious George.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 7:10 am
I never thought Clinton was handsome in the traditional sense. But the peopel I know who've known him all mention that the charisma is very real.
I've also had a couple of friends who had to meet the Bush family (before 2000) and had nothing but bad things to say about all of them, especially George. They just don't understand how people think he's just like them, unless they're all really spoiled brats.
Kent - How does May 25 sound?
I'd heard that no. from freeper relatives - who email anecdotes about organized immigrant community use of our welfare benefits [and schools and free emergency rooms].
Rather than the much more likely scenario wherin a cabal of corporate interests intwined with criminal government seek to loot the treasury in toto?
I guess it is easier to identify with a group of powerless folk forming powerful conspiritorial secret associations designed to take over the country.
You know that the Negro's run this place, and it is highly likely that the latin immigrant hordes will soon take charge.
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I never found Clinton handsome. Never. But I guess he is better looking than Curious George.
Echidne of the snakes
I always found him incredibly attractive. To put it mildly. Still do. Something about power. W on the other hand leaves me cold.
You know that the Negro's run this place, and it is highly likely that the latin immigrant hordes will soon take charge.
And the Jews control them both, so there you go. It's getting hard out there for a dipshit.
QL,
Wednesday eve would be perfect.
Since I am gonna be mostly untethered, xcept for the time of an as yet to be determined job interview, when would you like to have your omellete lesson?
UPI = Moonie Times. You ain't figured that out yet?
Man.
The American people don't highly value their civil rights or there would be much more of an uproar and a real firestorm about the NSA spying and data mining on phone calls.
As the MSM never seems to tire of telling us, 66% don't mind the NSA's incursions into their calling patterns in the pursuit of terrorists.
Of course, whether Bushboy's snooping on terrorists or political rivals can never be known because of "national security." We'll just have to take the depraved moron, Bushboy's, word.
I guess it is easier to identify with a group of powerless folk forming powerful conspiritorial secret associations designed to take over the country.
UNE DigiLynchMobster™ '
Well, the group you can shut out and that you feel threatened by is definitely the enemy of choice.
Seems Dean addressed the 700 Club & said the Dem platform is marriage is between a man and a woman, then had to deny it three times - that isn't helping us.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/
na...crats_Gays.html
"Collectively, Americans are such fucking sheep."
Or something like that.
Here's a Tim Krieder toon from 3/12/03 [NOTE: Not work safe].
Be sure to read all of the artist's statement. Quoth Mr. Krieder:
"Jesus--what a Golden Age it was, and we didn't even know it! Maybe it just looks brighter in comparison to the current darkness. Now look what we're forced to endure: That twerp. That ninny. That feeb. That nitwit. That dorkwad. That illiterate Yalie. That born-again cokehead. That simpering, sneering, puling, loathesome little monkeyfaced millionaire's son who seems beadily determined to drag the entire country back to the recession and the Gulf War, to say fuck you to the international agreements that have kept the world more or less from collapsing for the last fifty years. I can't even stand the sight of him."
OT:
Courtesy of The General, if you still have an empty stomach, you are invited to gaze upon the abject horror of a Pamela Shrugged video log.
In this episode, she explains how Fox News is not right-wing enough, and her manly readers with lots of money need to make a REAL right-wing network to get the truth out.
Also she stammers a lot and talks about Moose-lems and Palestinians pooping in holy buildings.
I think more wingnuts should get involved in video-logs. They're far more informative than the wingers realize.
And the Jews control them both, .
Shit, I didn't even know that!!!!
so there you go. It's getting hard out there for a dipshit
No kidding! And speaking of dipshits, can't you set up some kind of martian habitat, and beam them there??
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But, but, Clinton got a blow job. Doesn't that count for anything anymore?
Heehee, I bet he got more than one.
ql in ny | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 7:09 am | #
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i've said it before, and i will probably say it again, but clinton deserved a blowjob.
58 percent say it's inevitable Iran will use nuclear weapons if it has them.
I'd like to know how that poll question was phrased. "Do you think it's inevitable...?"
Bushboy is a sociopath who has mastered the knack of acting "folksy."
Much like serial killer Ted Bundy was able to act "romantic" with his victims before he murdered them, Bushboy feigns "compassionate conservatism" (talk about oxymorons!) and being a brush clearing cowboy.
The reality is he would bomb Baghdad with shock and awe and kill thousands of innocents, even though he was told by the CIA that there was no certainty that WMDs existed. Only a heartless prick could do that.
No kidding! And speaking of dipshits, can't you set up some kind of martian habitat, and beam them there??
Sorry. Transporter's down for repairs this . . . um, year. Otherwise it's be To the Moon, Alice!
"Collectively, Americans are such fucking sheep."
Or something like that.
Luke | 05.13.06 - 7:33 am | #
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some people are wolves, and some people are sheepdogs. most people, however, are sheep who can't tell the difference between a sheepdog and a wolf.
The reason the rabble still think George is a good guy is they never went to college and have no experience with smug jackass frat boys.
How could a country vote for him with his history? Just by itself, how stupid can people be to want a president that had put over over a hundred people to death as governor of the killing state? It isn't as if we didn't have some indication of what he was.
Seems Dean addressed the 700 Club
Talk about a waste of time..........I mean while I appreciate the 50 state strategy, spending time with mouth breathers seems pointless.
Let them return to their less distructive non voting ways.
Is my eletist showing?
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Did anyone see the 24 year old chickenhawk on Larry King last night? He offered this logic to explain why it was OK for him to promote the war but not enlist:
"I support the Yankees, but I don't wear their uniform!"
Laugh out loud tragicomedy.
Hey, remember this blast from the past?
"It doesn't matter that he can't find China on the map because he'll surround himself with good advisors."
Kent - the 25th is a Thursday. Since I no longer work Fridays, I thought that would be great.
Omelette lesson will have to wait, cause the house is far too untidy to have anyone over.
Sorry. Transporter's down for repairs this . . . um, year.
Fucking Replicators!!!!
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Bushboy is a sociopath who has mastered the knack of acting "folksy."
Much like serial killer Ted Bundy
That nails it Rudy. Nails it. I've never thought about it, but Boots and Bundy have a hell of a lot in common.
Except the former has murdered a hell of a lot more folks.
It isn't as if we didn't have some indication of what he was.
Luke
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The evidence was that Bushboy had been a lifelong failure and violator of the law. He failed in the military and in the oil bizness. He committed the crime of insider trading at Harken Energy and was cited for DUIs.
All the key indicators of a sound economy declined after he took over as governor and environmental rules were relaxed to the point of irrelevence, making Texas poorer and more toxic.
Bushboy has been a contemptible and depraved moron since birth, but thanks to the "Bush" name, money and the gullibility of the American people, he will go down as one of worst historical American debacles.
The reason the rabble still think George is a good guy is they never went to college and have no experience with smug jackass frat boys.
Jennifer
Hmmmm...if those who thought that nouveau riche quasi-teetotaler was a "guy they could have a beer with" had actually met him when he was in college, they would've kicked his smug frat boy ass.
He would've deserved it, too.
Sorry. Transporter's down for repairs this . . . um, year.
Fucking Replicators!!!!
Hey, man, those little bastards got into everything! Sorta like . . . Wal Mart.
i've said it before, and i will probably say it again, but clinton deserved a blowjob.
Olaf glad and big,
Never heard it before but it is indeed quite true.
"It doesn't matter that he can't find China on the map because he'll surround himself with good advisors."
And those good advisors were . . ..
Yep. More Bush bullshit.
Seems Dean addressed the 700 Club & said the Dem platform is marriage is between a man and a woman, then had to deny it three times - that isn't helping us.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ na...crats_Gays.html
Ruth
How cute, an early morning concern troll.
The reason the rabble still think George is a good guy is they never went to college and have no experience with smug jackass frat boys.
Yes, but most of them went to highschool and had plenty of experiance with smug jackass jocks, and either identified with them or were jealous of them.
And they enjoyed the spectacle of the jock harrassing the nerds.
A certain degree of sociopathy exists in the bosom of the American Sheeple, and is shamelessly exploited by bushCo.
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Except the former has murdered a hell of a lot more folks.
billy b
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And Bushboy has 3 more years to commit more war crimes!
"He would've deserved it, too."
Oh my gosh, Uncle Smokes, that picture gives me chills.
Morning, rational people.
'I think more wingnuts should get involved in video-logs. They're far more informative than the wingers realize.
Nim, ham hock of liberty'
listening to cspan gives you some idea. The callers are using all the freeper talking points except they don't quite get the reality semblance component.
Oh, and ___league, Ruth is no concern troll.
Dean's comments upset me as well. Even though the last two Dem platforms stated that definition of marriage, Dean didn't have to use that in his talk with that particular group.
Omelette lesson will have to wait, cause the house is far too untidy to have anyone over.
Maybe you can make it to my friends place in brooklyn for a lesson.
And I knew I spelled omelette wrong when I hit publish.
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Ruth, there is a Kos diary about the whole Dean kerfuffle. Apparently he fired a friend Aravosis and hired a more experienced outreach person. This pissed off Aravosis and he has taken comments that Dean made completely out of context to plant the meme that somehow Dean is anti-gay. I'll look for the link.
Ruth
How cute, an early morning concern troll.
____league | 05.13.06 - 7:47 am |
Ruth's not a concern troll. She wasn't the only Atriot who wasn't thrilled with Dean's performance. This was gone over in yesterday afternoon's thread.
"He would've deserved it, too."
That have a beer deal is BS, also. After about three or four beers, one would have to kick Boots' ass as he would be running that mouth incessantly.
Morning, rational people.
Diane
Morning...are you completely irrational? it's not even 5:00 o'clock am for you.... go back to bed at once!
'Ruth
How cute, an early morning concern troll.
____league'
reality based stuff just fails to give me the Can't Say That If It Fails My Side of The Fence reaction.
Quiltlady, you need one of those signs, "Sorry about the mess but I live here."
Morning (again) Perhaps I will stay awake a bit now.
I don't know the details of the Howard Dean brouhaha, but Dean has been vilified so often and so unjustly that I'm willing to cut him slack on this anti-gay charge with the presumption that it is (forgive the pun) overblown!
Ruth
Sorry. I should have read the link first.
focus-e-er,
I may live on the West Coast, but my internal clock has been running on East Coast time for years.
I take naps. A lot of naps.
Diane, ql and buckeye, thnks. I wasn't aware it had been discussed already, and when I saw that this a.m. it made me ill. I know Dean isn't anti-gay, but that he is going off half-cocked for what seems to be the object of making bridges to Pat Robbersown makes me queasy.
That have a beer deal is BS, also. After about three or four beers, one would have to kick Boots' ass as he would be running that mouth incessantly.
billy b
What fun, a chance to link to another Tim Kreider toon.
'Sorry. I should have read the link first.
____league'
no harm done, I made a mistake once too.
Ham hock
I watched the video. Oh Lord, save 'merica from this kind of mind!!
You're right, wingnuts should do more video. Can you imagine the teachers of her poor child, what they think upon meeting this woman?
' the presumption that it is (forgive the pun) overblown!
Rudy'
thnks, and anti-gay is a misinterpretation [see above]
Even though the last two Dem platforms stated that definition of marriage, Dean didn't have to use that in his talk with that particular group.
As I said before, I don't think he should have even bothered.
What possible percentage could be had in spending time with unapologetic bigots.
If those folks had to choose between voting for Charles Manson or Jesse Jackson, Manson would win the race in a landslide. Oprah "might" get a few more votes, but the result would be the same.
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Morning all.
That have a beer deal is BS, also. After about three or four beers, one would have to kick Boots' ass as he would be running that mouth incessantly.
billy b
No doubt W is a gobshiter, no?
I may live on the West Coast, but my internal clock has been running on East Coast time for years.
I take naps. A lot of naps.
Diane
I think my internal clock is set to Atlantean time.
Or is he just a gobshite?
UNE,
Oprah's not uppity.
I may live on the West Coast, but my internal clock has been running on East Coast time for years.
Diane
my internal clock is broked and you will be getting rain later today, no?
Lord have mercy. Look at what HAlliburton has cooked up now. At first I tought this was parody, but apparently this is straight up.
"The SurvivaBall is designed to protect the corporate manager no matter what Mother Nature throws his or her way," said Fred Wolf, a Halliburton representative who spoke today at the Catastrophic Loss conference held at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Amelia Island, Florida. "This technology is the only rational response to abrupt climate change," he said to an attentive and appreciative audience.
http://tinyurl.com/znn6k
I think my internal clock is set to Atlantean time.
NYMary
Feeling a bit under the water?
'Sorry. I should have read the link first.
____league'
no harm done, I made a mistake once too.
Ruth
But I really hate it when I screw up more than once a decade.
No doubt W is a gobshiter, no?
Whas a gobshiter????
The problem the dems have with these issues is that they play the damned repukes games. If they simply responded, when asked about gay marriage for example, we believe that the Constitution supports freedom first and foremost. If we choose to modify the framer's intent, why would we opt for LESS freedom?
This has the effect of putting the questioner on the defensive. The Repukes have an entire playbook of questions like, "When did you stop beating your wife?" But that does not mean that we need to acquiescent.
"Lord have mercy. Look at what HAlliburton has cooked up now. At first I tought this was parody, but apparently this is straight up."
It is a parody. Halliburtoncontracts.com is not the actual Halliburton site.
This was something cooked up by "The Yes Men," a parody group of some sort.
Billy B, If Halliburton believes in global warming, why can't George?
This pissed off Aravosis and he has taken comments that Dean made completely out of context to plant the meme that somehow Dean is anti-gay.
It wouldn't suprise me, though I would be interested in the cite, ql.
I have to admit that since he went coocoo banana's over the McKinney affair, his place is no longer a daily read.
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Bush wants your DNA!
Go and read Greg Palast NOW!
He is linking the NSA wiretapping with Choicepoint's efforts to assemble (and sell) a nation-wide DNA database.
These are the people who gave Katherine Harris her list of black "felons"...
Goopers give more tax breaks to the rich
But to the MSM, the Dems are the bitch
Bushboy's daily lies
the MSM often denies
In fear their sponsors will think them a snitch!
It is a parody.
Oh. Well then, never mind.
Jesus. I opened my Yahoo account this morning, and saw this news story:
Spy Agency Watching Americans From Space
WASHINGTON - A little-known spy agency that analyzes imagery taken from the skies has been spending significantly more time watching U.S. soil.
In an era when other intelligence agencies try to hide those operations, the director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, is proud of that domestic mission.
He said the work the agency did after hurricanes Rita and Katrina was the best he'd seen an intelligence agency do in his 42 years in the spy business.
It goes on like that, basically giving this, "see, we need satellites to spy on Americans to help them" spin on things. My first thought was, oh, boy, somethings about to become public.
Then, I go downstairs here and see last night's post... these people are so fucking predictable.
Goodmorning NYMary! how are you and how is the brood?
Here's the Kos Diary linky, written by our own Grand Moff Texan.
Here's the Kos Diary linky, written by our own Grand Moff Texan.
well soon the natural guard will be securing out borders and at first i was having trouble understanding how this could all come to pass in so short a time but then i remembered these lines from bob dylan:
Well, John the Baptist after torturing a thief
Looks up at his hero the Commander-in-Chief
Saying, "Tell me great hero, but please make it brief
Is there a hole for me to get sick in?"
The Commander-in-Chief answers him while chasing a fly
Saying, "Death to all those who would whimper and cry"
And dropping a bar bell he points to the sky
Saving, "The sun's not yellow it's chicken"
Feeling a bit under the water?
Diane
Nah, just a couple hours ahead where I should be.
I have made it into about 30 seconds of Nims link to Pamela of Atlas Shrugged.
Three words: Slow. Motion. Trainwreck.
I agree, all of the notable winger bloggers should take advantage of the "action". Charles, Glenn, please, pretty please!
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This pissed off Aravosis and he has taken comments that Dean made completely out of context to plant the meme that somehow Dean is anti-gay. I'll look for the link.
ql in ny
I thought Mr. Aravosis was over the top (but in character) with his anger over the firing of his friend, but Dean's appearance on The 700 Club disturbed me.
While i lived in Texas, I saw Democrats court the GLBT vote, only to screw them over when politically strategic to do so. As we have no other party, within reason, to turn to, the situation often becomes a Catch-22 protection racket.
Thus I turn a jaundiced eye to this sort of "bridge-building" to exactly the kind of puffed-up "king-makers" who are joyfully, with hopped-up holy zeal for Armageddon and wads of cash, trashing this country.
Anyone see the History Channel show on the Mughals (Moguls) last night? Some amazing stuff, like the armor for their war elephants: 8,000 pieces of steel plate, sewn rogether with steel chain mail. It covered virtually the whole elephant, including the trunk. Had ear flaps too.
They'd also saw off a bit of tusk, and fit on a long triangle-shaped steel dagger. The daggers were sometimes used in executions.
Armor
I have to admit that since he went coocoo banana's over the McKinney affair, his place is no longer a daily read.
That *was* a little weird.
Focus, there's a report on the brood at the homepage.
Y'all settled in now? Four of the first five stories on Iraq Casualties site are about soldiers rejoicing in their new artificial limbs . . . .
Then there is this bit, FORT WAYNE, Ind. A Fort Wayne Marine was among those killed when a tank rolled off a bridge and into an Iraqi canal.
David Sanchez, a 2003 graduate of Elmhurst High School, was the second member of his high school graduating class to die in Iraq.
School principal Barb Gentry says a memorial event is being planned for Sanchez.
OMG, just able to buy his first beer and dead. The second of his high school graduating class?
Impeach, Indict, Convict, Send the Hague. If we stand for nothing, we don't deserve to be viable.
Whas a gobshiter????
I'm not sure the adjective holds-- I think he's just a gobshite. We had a discussion of this the other morning. It's basically an Irish term for someone who just won't shut up, and talks about nothing much important. Here is one def:
gobshite n :
pernicious blabbermouth, blatherskite, (see shite).
I gather that "gob" means talk, "shite" is shit.
John McCain, who called the Falwell-Robertson nexus "evil" during the 2000 election and wanted the Gooper party to disavow them, is now courting the same religious right with a fervor that would make James Dobson proud.
McCain is probably one of the most accomplished hypocrites in WAshington, DC. And that's saying a lot!!!
Moe,
"gob" is "mouth," actually. Flann O'Brien was compared to James Joyce so often that he said "If I hear that bloody name again, I'll froth at the gob."
My internal clock is definately the wind-up kind.
Morning all. I'm doing the happy home dance. Home for a month. Today I think I am going to
a) Buy a refrigerator
b) See if the farmer's market is back and the Creole tomatoes are in
c) Work in my yard
My friend last night called it 'de-vacuation'.
Spy Agency Watching Americans From Space
Loosen the tinfoil.
Those puppies (KH-11)have a resolution of about 4 inches (9cm) at 300 km. Hollywood to the contrary, they cannot read your license plate, recognize a specific individual, or tell that you are giving them the finger.
NYMary - Mr. S.P. looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. That is one serious baby.
McCain has realized after the Bushboy years that you can say and do anything, so long as you have the Gooper imprimatur and money, the MSM will follow like an obedient dog and do whatever tricks are necessary for their treats.
I thought Mr. Aravosis was over the top (but in character) with his anger over the firing of his friend, but Dean's appearance on The 700 Club disturbed me.
It's just not a good thing when a leader of the Democratic party either doesn't know what the platform is, or does know but feels the need to lie about it.
Focus, there's a report on the brood at the homepage.
NYMary
very cool, the all of you! and man, Sean Patrick is already big and he looks to be the happy sort...no wonder.
NYMary - Mr. S.P. looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. That is one serious baby.
ql in ny
I was just thinking the same thing.
Egad, though, NYMary, that's a lovely family.
Baby pictures!
What a fabulous way to start a day.
I cannot imagine your life, NYMary.... just looking at the pics makes me want a nap...
I saw one of these fly overhead yesterday and was reminded about this blast from the past...
Bush "If you find a person that you've never seen before getting in a crop duster that doesn't belong to you - report it. "
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From the Yahoo story mentioned by Moe
Experience-wise, the agency is among the youngest of the spy agencies. About 40 percent of the agency's analyst have been hired in the last five years.
"They are very inexperienced, and that's just fine. They don't have any baggage," said Clapper, who retires next month as the longest serving agency director. "The people that we are getting now are bright, computer literate. ... That is not something I lie awake and worry about."
"no baggage" such as concerns about civil liberties or privacy perhaps?
Mr. S.P. looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. That is one serious baby.
Maybe he knows something that the rest of us only suspect.
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Loosen the tinfoil.
Those puppies (KH-11)have a resolution of about 4 inches (9cm) at 300 km. Hollywood to the contrary, they cannot read your license plate, recognize a specific individual, or tell that you are giving them the finger.
JR
Did you see the Think Progress link below?
I don't live in the states, so they can presumably spy on me all they want, so it's not an issue with me personally.
But I tell you, I can go to google staellites and see my friends' and family's cars in their driveway, and I can tell when the picture was taken by how green my garden is, and if the chairs are on my deck. And that's just some shitty commercial service. They may not be able to read my license plate from space (it is, after all, verticle), but there is no doubt they can look over the fence, know where cars are, follow people on the street, etc.
QL.. if you are still here, you have mail.
Hello libuhruhl elitists
QL.. if you are still here, you have mail.
Hello libuhruhl elitists
McCain is probably one of the most accomplished hypocrites in WAshington, DC. And that's saying a lot!!!
Rudy | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 8:12 am | #
He is quite the wanker. And it was amazing, back in '04, how many Dems in here and elsewhere were considering that it might be a good thing for John Kerry to pick McCain as his running mate...
Anyone see the History Channel show...
Draco
I watch the history Channel a lot, while keeping several grains of salt on hand.
The marketing synergy at work in their programming creeps me out sometimes. A few days ago, they did a show about rogue waves. I did not know anything of the subject, which is why I watch that channel, but seeing the ships destroyed by huge waves, I thought grimly, "Is this a plug for the remake of The Poseiden Adventure?"
Sure enough, towards the end of the show, they showed clips of the new movie. They then followed up that show with one about the Indian Ocean tsunami.
If they'd followed up the tsunami thing with a show about surfers, I wouldn't have been at all surprised.
NPR story: Dusty Foggo says the only law they broke at the poker parties was smoking cigars in a non-smoking area.
Kent (and anyone else who has read the book) could you please go to Amazon.com and post a sentence or two? It would mean a lot to me. Truly.
Still trying, against all odds, to get this project going.
http://tinyurl.com/z292r
Thank you so much.
If they'd followed up the tsunami thing with a show about surfers, I wouldn't have been at all surprised.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 8:20 am | #
THey would have, but they realized that, after all, Charlie don't surf.
DWD
of course...
"If you find a person that you've never seen before getting in a crop duster that doesn't belong to you - report it. "
I wish I could 
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I don't own a crop duster, nor anyone who does, therefore I believe that he is asking me to report all crop dusters that I see.
Our Commander in Thief, what a maroooon!
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Kerry to pick McCain as his running mate...
rorschach
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As though the Dems aren't handicapped enough with a hostile MSM, and as if we don't have enough hypocrites within the party already like Joementum!
hey atrios -
regarding earlier post that if the dems were briefed about the massive spy program, maybe they couldn't say anything due to its classified nature?
remember the rockefeller letter, that he had to hand write because he couldn't let a staffer see the contents? he told the vp he didn't thing the program was okay, and that he was keeping a copy of that letter in a secure place. WE NEED TO TROT THAT LETTER AROUND NOW.
"If you find a person that you've never seen before getting in a crop duster that doesn't belong to you - report it. "
Um, if I found a person I've never seen before getting in a crop duster that DID belong to me, I imagine I'd report it.
Dusty Foggo says the only law they broke at the poker parties was smoking cigars in a non-smoking area.
Draco
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I think he's blowing smoke.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 8:20 am
Sometimes the History Channel plugs aren't even subtle. This morning there was one on the history of Pontiacs (the cars, not the Native Americans). Are those cars even made anymore? I tuned out early
(blogwhore alert)
Anybody read the NY Times article on how folks are coping with the higher gasoline prices?
It appears that Americans still don't quite get it.
DWD,
what lb0313 said!!
Hiya both!!
Those puppies (KH-11)have a resolution of about 4 inches (9cm) at 300 km. Hollywood to the contrary, they cannot read your license plate, recognize a specific individual, or tell that you are giving them the finger.
True, but when you combine that with other info.
With help, the agency can also zoom in. Its officials cooperate with private groups, such as hotel security, to get access to footage of a lobby or ballroom. That video can then be linked with mapping and graphical data to help secure events or take action, if a hostage situation or other catastrophe happens.
It would seem to me that when the satellite shows an image that 'mihght' be interesting, they could then go to their database of terrestial cameras for a possible better look.
....duster, nor *know* anyone who does....
speaking of maroons......
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this is rich, Gilchrist the Minutemanic saying illegal immigrants 'cannibalizing' jobs.
Loosen the tinfoil.
Those puppies (KH-11)have a resolution of about 4 inches (9cm) at 300 km. Hollywood to the contrary, they cannot read your license plate, recognize a specific individual, or tell that you are giving them the finger.
Well, like Fox News, here's some info on space-based imagery intelligence gathering.
I post, you decide.
Look at the KH-12 and LACROSSE/ONYX.
The History Channel is mostly bullshit and they have a real hardon for FDR.
Every month they trot out this "expose" about FDR knowing about Pearl Harbor before the attacka and actually inciting the attack.
Does Scaife own part of the History Channel or am I just to cynical about the MSM?
I cannot imagine your life, NYMary.... just looking at the pics makes me want a nap...
lb0313
I watch families traveling with children and think "thank god that's over with!"
Kent, for the 2d time. the 25th is a Thursday, is that okay?
Dusty Foggo says the only law they broke at the poker parties was smoking cigars in a non-smoking area.
While fucking hookers.
I think he forgot that part.
Kent, for the 2d time. the 25th is a Thursday, is that okay?
Yessssss Yessssss, actually any day is fine.
I just realized I was looking at the April Calender!
speaking of maroons....
But I tell you, I can go to google staellites and see my friends' and family's cars in their driveway, and I can tell when the picture was taken by how green my garden is, and if the chairs are on my deck. And that's just some shitty commercial service. They may not be able to read my license plate from space (it is, after all, verticle), but there is no doubt they can look over the fence, know where cars are, follow people on the street, etc.
Moe Szyslak
First of all they can't "follow a person on the street" because they aren't geosynchronous. Second of all, they don't have any idea who they are following. On a good day they could tell if it was a guy or a girl, so long as she's got a C-cup or better and no parka. They can tell where cars are, but they can't tell which cars they are.
Optical imagery on these beasts hasn't improved much since the Medea program. What has been added/improved is things like infrared and radar... things which have a much coarser resolution (infrared resolution is about 3 ft).
You can't spy on an individual from space. It's great for things like "What kind of building is that?" and "Where's that convoy?", etc, but that kind of thing is more foreign intelligence than domestic.
Using just google satellite, I can see the sailors on the deck of this aircraft carrier docked at the Norfolk Naval Station.
'It appears that Americans still don't quite get it.
Diane'
Good article, good point. Hey, here the tvnews guys have been showing reports on things people are pawning to pay for gas. And I saw 'financial advice' about getting a credit line on your house's value now before it plummets. Scream.
You can't spy on an individual from space.
Well of course not.
That's why they implant tracking devices in our teeth.
Diane, I read your excellent article but I do have one quibble. America - at least the America we know - is predicated on the automobile. For many of us - particularly in Michigan or Indiana or any other semi-rural state - are tied to our cars. There is no alternative.
I am lucky in the sense that I no longer have far to drive for work and neither does Mrs DWD but we still NEED to drive. There is no alternative. None whatsoever.
Mrs. DWD and I were talking of some of the "office" workers at her place who are making minimal money. (Mrs DWD is a MT/ASCP) They are driving to Muskegon from Holton and Whitehall (perhaps twenty miles each way). How can they handle the increased gasoline prices on their salaries? They will cut in other areas.
And remember, if they want to go to work: they drive. No choice.
That's why they implant tracking devices in our teeth.
rorschach |
Uh-oh, better not let GWPDA hear you say that!
Can I just say, these Native American women kick ass and deserve any campaign contributions they can get!!
In the wake of the South Dakota legislature's nearly complete ban on abortion last February, more women than ever before are running for office in the state--frequently on women's rights platforms. Asetoyer, a Comanche, decided to run (after an appearance on RadioNation with Laura Flanders) to combat bills detrimental to women's rights and the rights of families that were passed by the last two legislatures. "I feel we are going into a frightening time. Legislators are going down a dangerous path and it is very scary," she told Indian Country Today recently. ''They are trying to get the public to buy into the idea that contraceptives abort a pregnancy, that's wrong. They are trying to go after our contraceptives.''
Fortunately, thanks to the generosity of people like you, Asetoyer's campaign has gained ground. As she heads into the critical last four weeks of campaigning before the June 6 primary, she's up to speed with her buttons, bumperstickers, lawn signs and creative radio ads that started airing on two stations this week. She's also part of a wave in the state comprising three other Native American women candidates vying for Democratic primary nominations in order to take on some of the most reactionary members of any state Republican Party anywhere. These candidates--Faith Spotted Eagle, Paula Long Fox and Theresa Spry, along with Asetoyer, could actually win. But they really need more help.
We are spying on Americans and damned proud of it: ingrates!
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Moe, those are the ones I'm talking about.
From your own link:
"in principle the resolution might be expected to be better than one meter. While this is far short of the 10 centimeter resolution achievable with photographic means, it would certainly be adequate for the identification and tracking of major military units such as tanks or missile transporter vehicles."
Morning All,
'It appears that Americans still don't quite get it.
Diane'
Actually, MSM has been doing such a good job of not reminding them of the pain and wars that were fought for their freedom.
And remember, if they want to go to work: they drive. No choice.
DWD
I know, DWD, I know. I do a lot of driving as part of my job, and I have no other options either, that's why I noted that we're going to go through a lot of hurt until we see some real world solutions.
Blaming "the Arabs" is not one of those real world solutions.
And remember, if they want to go to work: they drive. No choice.
DWD | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 8:33 am | #
They should just go on welfare. Then they could lounge around all day and still rake in enough cash to buy cadillacs.
And remember, if they want to go to work: they drive. No choice.
DWD
Not just semi-rural states. I drive a minimum 50 miles a day, and never leave a small area of the city of Houston.
From where I live, I wouldn't try to so much as walk to a grocery store, or cross the street to the Taco Bell less than a quarter mile from my house (it's not worth the death-defying dash across six lanes of traffic, for one thing).
Most of America is built this way: for automobile traffic. And it's not getting any better.
Gonna be a long emergency, indeed.
< a href="http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/002741.html"> The wingnuts who voted for him expect results, and hearing anything less than "We're gonna deport them taco-eaters back to Mexlamistan!!!" is tantamount to betrayal.
From Sadly No.
Mexlamistan, now that is very funny to me. As a fellow mangler of the lexicon.
It also illustrates that when Bush's poll numbers finally reach bottom you will have the number of hard core bigots + 3-5% (to account for the white power militia faction).
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'I think he forgot that part.
Supreme Commander Thor'
/wait, there's no law against hookers and whatever you do except in VA it has to be traditional, and they're at the Watergate. But there are laws against smoking. See? You obviously have little experience in resolving vice with locale.
The older orbital remote optical sensors could identify the rank of military personnel from the shoulder insignia. They've been improved since.
And there are the newer sub-orbital remote optical sensors. And there are the terrestrial atmospheric optical micro-sensors.
And let us not forget the orbital, sub-orbital and terrestrial radio communications sensors. The things that should be able to listen to your cell phone calls.
Tapping optical fiber telecommunications and specific computers? I'm glad you asked. Oh, sure; why not.
It was long a joke at the NSA and NRO that they would make far better domestic spy agencies than what they managed against the Soviet Union.
The NSA and NRO were able to read the radar screens of the entire Soviet air defense command in real time. For instance. They've gotten better since.
I can see the sailors on the deck of this aircraft carrier docked at the Norfolk Naval Station.
Moe Szyslak
OK, name them.
Diane, I was not disputing that point but I think from big-city perspectives it is pretty hard to imagine HOW these people (making 8-12 bucks an hour) are paying for gasoline.
I do not blame the Arabs but our government at all levels. If we had followed through with Carter's recommendations in the seventies, they would not be a problem.
Blaming "the Arabs" is not one of those real world solutions.
Diane
Well, they should go ahead and give us our gas, so we can go ahead and use it up as rapidly and frivolously as possible.
I think the national vehicle of Houston is the Hummer.
Good news spreads quickly. This is already on the "Bush Credibility Meter" board on AOL.
I mean, I'm not sure what we're arguing about. I know the feds can't read my newspaper from space-- but why would they want to? They can buy their own damn paper, and besides, I'll beat them to the Sudoku. But they can see where my car is, track it on a daily basis, know what I'm growing in my garden, know how many friends I have visiting (by seeing how many cars are in my driveway), and collect all sorts of other information about me from space. I consider that an invasion. And yea, I know they can collect that info in other ways-- I'm not on an anti-technology screed here-- I don't want them collecting that info by any means.
Tapping optical fiber telecommunications and specific computers? I'm glad you asked. Oh, sure; why not.
It was long a joke at the NSA and NRO that they would make far better domestic spy agencies than what they managed against the Soviet Union.
The NSA and NRO were able to read the radar screens of the entire Soviet air defense command in real time. For instance. They've gotten better since.
shawk
I wear glasses at my computer so they can't see the color of my eyes.
i feel deep sympathy for him.
nawww, i'm kiddin!
do not blame the Arabs but our government at all levels. If we had followed through with Carter's recommendations in the seventies, they would not be a problem.
DWD
Bingo!
We're easily thirty years behind the curve, and it will take and determination to get through this.
Frankly, I don't see the leadership emerging on the issue from either party at this point, with the possible exception of Al Gore, and we need to get started today, not two years from now.
The older orbital remote optical sensors could identify the rank of military personnel from the shoulder insignia. They've been improved since.
Do you have any evidence of that, because the laws of physics (optics is physics) says no.
I know someone who used to do analysis of sat images for US Army Intelligence, BTW.
I wear glasses at my computer so they can't see the color of my eyes.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
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Which reminds me. How does the Neilson ratings or whatever they are tell that it was 2,000,000 male views between 30 and 45?
Obviously someone forgot to close a tag!!!
must be time to make some coffee and think about breakfast.
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Well, they should go ahead and give us our gas, so we can go ahead and use it up as rapidly and frivolously as possible.
I think the national vehicle of Houston is the Hummer.
The Hummer, which is history:
Get ready to say goodbye to the Hummer H1, the hulking, gas-guzzling status symbol that has attracted celebrities and off-road enthusiasts but has drawn the ire of environmentalists.
General Motors Corp. said Friday that the 2006 model year will be the last for the H1, which has been the foundation for the automaker's Hummer brand. Based on the military's Humvee, the about 12,000 put on the road since 1992 defined the Hummer name.
And speaking of cheap gasoline... we should all move to Venezuela:
Taxi driver Jaime Tinoco works the streets of Caracas in a 1976 Chevy Nova that guzzles 72 litres of gas a day. But he doesn't worry about fuel efficiency - filling his tank costs just US$2.30 (NZ$3.65).
While US consumers struggle with soaring energy prices, Venezuela's gas is now the world's cheapest at 12 cents a gallon (3.7 litres) and Washington's regional foe, President Hugo Chavez, vows to maintain subsidies that keep fuel dirt-cheap.
"Those gringos have everything - so why does their gas cost so much?" asked Tinoco between chuckles as he navigated a midday traffic jam. "Don't they have oil reserves?"
Rorschach, Not a nag but if you need to relax a bit, my prose is like driving a brand new dynaflow Buick on fresh ashphalt.
Seems nobody told certain Shiites and Kurds about the "unity government":
Clashes erupt between two Iraqi army units
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Clashes erupted Friday between two Iraqi army units following a roadside bombing north of the capital, and Iraqi police said a Shiite solder was killed in an exchange of fire with a Kurdish unit.
The not-so-good news from Iraq
But they can see where my car is, track it on a daily basis, know what I'm growing in my garden, know how many friends I have visiting (by seeing how many cars are in my driveway), and collect all sorts of other information about me from space.
A lot of those things they can't do. They are sol-synchronous, so they can't track your car on a daily basis. They can't tell exactly what you are planting in your garden (they can tell how high and green it is, though). Sure, they can tell how many folks you are having over for a BBQ, (they can see the BBQ at night, too), but they can't ID who is over.
But this is not useful information for domestic spying.
I agree that it's not something that they should be doing (if they are), but it seems like a big waste of resources, because it's completely useless information.
"1298 Redwood Drive is having a pool party, I wonder if they are plotting the overthrow of civilization?"
That's why they implant tracking devices in our teeth -
Man... and here all this time I thought it was that bar code on my wrist.
Rorschach, Not a nag but if you need to relax a bit, my prose is like driving a brand new dynaflow Buick on fresh ashphalt.
DWD | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 8:48 am | #
I appreciate it. Not sure I have the leisure to relax just now, though...
I agree that it's not something that they should be doing (if they are), but it seems like a big waste of resources, because it's completely useless information.
And yet, they're doing it.
"1298 Redwood Drive is having a pool party, I wonder if they are plotting the overthrow of civilization?"
More like:
"1298 Redwood Drive is having a pool party, and they are all registered Democrats that frequent the Atrios board. Send in the goons."
"1298 Redwood Drive is having a pool party, and they are all registered Democrats that frequent the Atrios board. Send in the goons."
billy b
Except for the fact that they can't tell who is there.
That's my point. They can't individually ID the cars or the people.
Even better, the satellite is not actually likely to be overhead while you are having the party. They are Sol-synchronous, not geo. They take snapshots on flyby.
Taxi driver Jaime Tinoco works the streets of Caracas in a 1976 Chevy Nova that guzzles 72 litres of gas a day.
Amazing. I was under the impression Novas turned to rust and fell apart the first time they encountered morning dew.
You probably know the story that appears in business school textbooks about Chevy having trouble selling Novas in Spanish-soeaking countries, as the name means "Won't run."
I think that the point is this: with our phone numbers they can cross-reference and find out where we live, who we are. By accessing this data base they can further extrapolate our social security numbers. With these bits of information the government can tell anything and everything about us.
Now, the question that should be asked is this: for what purposes will they use this information?
Will not be answered because most people are too stupid and uniformed to even understand paragraph one let alone paragraph two.
And Quilt Lady's point yesterday about how many of these "good" people are using phone sex services, placing orders at JR's Leather Shop, or trying to arrange for a myriad of other questionable activities.
Do you want your government involved in every aspect of your life?
DAMN! Just writing that makes me furious. Americans are so dumb maybe they should receive what they are unwilling to fight against.
72 litres a day for a 76 Nova taxi is damn good milage.
Satellites are good things. Satellites won't hurt you. Your government is your friend. If you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to worry about, not that your friendly government would ever use it's satellites that can't see you or their computers that can't track you to do anything mean to you.
Does that about cover it?
DWD: Exactly. They real problem isn't any rather useless imagery they are collecting, it's in data and communications.
The older orbital remote optical sensors could identify the rank of military personnel from the shoulder insignia. They've been improved since.
Do you have any evidence of that, because the laws of physics (optics is physics) says no.
I know someone who used to do analysis of sat images for US Army Intelligence, BTW.
JR, kerosene and a match
Google:
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Haloscum is eating cookies
Americans are so dumb maybe they should receive what they are unwilling to fight against.
DWD | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 9:00 am | #
I agree. I hereby declare myself unwilling to fight against pornography, by the way.
shawk
They can see if there is flash on the boards, and you could make an educated guess on how much flash and make another educated guess as to rank. Maybe, some of the time, in cetain forces.
That is not "seeing" the flash... that's why there are analysists.
They would like you to think that they can give a gnat a proctological exam from space, but they can't.
Mirror optics. Do the math on the mirrors they are using.
Rorschach,
Definitely not worksafe.
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see http://007google.com/Clenis.aspx
Rorschach,
Definitely not worksafe.
http://www.stockroom.com/
DWD | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 9:12 am | #
Intriguing. But why, exactly, did you send me that link?
ROrscach, you said," I hereby declare myself unwilling to fight against pornography, by the way."
I was just trying to oblige.
Oh, and it is the silliness of Americans. We do not believe in pornography, yet buy more and view more than anyone in the world.
When you are talking of information they do not differentiate between fantasy and reality. They will not know what you said, they will know what you do.
(and I just googled the idea. Sorry)
DWD:
Part of the problem is that they aren't scooping up "information", they are scooping up data. Data needs to be processed to become "information", and they can process any way they want to.
Rove has told senior administratin officials he will be indicted and plans to resign!
ROrscach, you said," I hereby declare myself unwilling to fight against pornography, by the way."
I was just trying to oblige.
Heh.
So much for my short-term memory, eh?
So what strategy conclusions can we draw from this as we move forward?
Bottom line: Americans want a centrist.
So what strategy conclusions can we draw from this as we move forward?
Bottom line: Americans want a centrist.
Poll: Clinton outperformed Bush
They needed a POLL to tell us THAT?
Anyone who didn't have their head up their ass for 8 years knew THAT.
Bill Maher said a poll was taken asking who would folks vote for if an election was held today...Bill or Chimpy?
Clinton - 68%
McCain is probably one of the most accomplished hypocrites in WAshington, DC. And that's saying a lot!!!
Rudy
McCain = Bush's bitch.
I'm curious, though, about the reasons for not loving George. It seems that most people follow nothing in politics. Is it just the gas prices they are angry about?
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 05.13.06 - 7:09 am | #
The gas prices are a symptom or an allegory that something deeper is wrong. Coming after Katrina, when you could even see cracks in FauxNews, the price of gas is something that keeps slapping people in the face EVERYWHERE they go. I mean, even when you have a full tank, you still see those gas prices posted everywhere, working on your subconcious...
Mirror optics. Do the math on the mirrors they are using.
JR, kerosene and a match
For example, the resolution of the current COAST system of 5 x 0.4m mirrors on a base line of 60m roughly works out to an equivalent orbital resolution of 1mm.
From COAST at Cambridge:
An interferometer using 1.4m diameter telescopes and separations of up to 400m, would have an angular resolution of a quarter of a milli-arcsecond, i.e. roughly the angle required to [see] features of 0.2mm or less. Unlike conventional ground-based telescopes, the angular resolution of interferometric arrays is not compromised by atmospheric fluctuations.
If only Clinton had dressed up in a flight suit....then the national security numbers wouldn't be close either.
But, but, Clinton got a blow job. Doesn't that count for anything anymore?
Heehee, I bet he got more than one.
ql in ny
Hell, if I could have him back in the White House and have things back to the way they were in the 1990s, I'D give him all the blowjobs he wants!
If only Clinton had dressed up in a flight suit....then the national security numbers wouldn't be close either.
open source courtesy troll
He'd probably have had it on right.
And he wouldn't have shoved a sock down the front.
on taxes, it was 51 percent to 35 percent for Clinton
Clinton more honest -- man, that's gotta hurt.
Heh-heh-heh
Thought the latest pressconference by the Presidunce showed that he stopped shaving that spot between his eyebrows.
Bush with his beady, crossed little eyes and slightly downwardly hooked nose and the inability to make one simple declarative statement without stumbling over his words. IQ of about 90. And no redeeming social qualities.
Thank you Yale. Your gift to the world.
i would posit that the 27% who think clinton did more to divide the country than bush represents man for man the 27% floor of bush's approval rating.
who in their right mind could answer this question with Clinton?
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