Ned should go back to selling home security systems. What a great man. He sure has charismatic eyes.
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05.20.06 - 2:32 pm | #
Ned's gonna have to wait for payday for any love.
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05.20.06 - 2:32 pm | #
Well, that confirms what I wondered about. Saw the news article about a primary where 600,000 Democrats could vote (which Lieberman's people trumpeted as proof they would win), but I wondered: if you can't get the delegates, how do you get the primary voters?
So, clearly, Holy Joe is in trouble. Good.
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05.20.06 - 2:33 pm | #
Byebye, Joe. Don't let the door hit ya on the ass...
NTodd, Humpizzle™ |
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05.20.06 - 2:34 pm | #
Seemingly OT, this story relates to our discussion on the last thread.
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05.20.06 - 2:34 pm | #
The last few years have taught me well not to allow my hopes up. But I'm still excited that we might actually get rid of that little turd.
mena |
05.20.06 - 2:35 pm | #
"Oh, and more Rumsfeldian progress made in Iraq today."
--watertiger
The thing is even if we leave Iraq, the killing will continue. They are fucked either way. Bush and Co. are responsible for so many deaths and destroyed families, I can't begin to describe my sorrow.
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05.20.06 - 2:36 pm | #
Everybody is going to have to wait until I get back from Italy to get any more turkee from me.
Italy is fucking expensive.
Sorry.
Kicked in my last hundred to the party the day Atrios asked last week.
No more until later in the summer.
Tena |
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05.20.06 - 2:36 pm | #
Run, Joey, run, Joey, run
Neddie please don't, it wasn't his fault, he means so much to meeee
Neddie please don't, he's gonna turn liiiiberal, just you wait and see....
JeffCO |
05.20.06 - 2:37 pm | #
Our loss will be their loss.
geegirl |
05.20.06 - 2:38 pm | #
Joe shows his true colors (red)
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05.20.06 - 2:38 pm | #
The thing is even if we leave Iraq, the killing will continue. They are fucked either way.
I think the only difference we can make at this point is in terms of containing the international ramifications of the power struggle in Iraq.
blerb |
05.20.06 - 2:38 pm | #
If Joe bolts the party then I think we can launch a major mudslinging party not only at Lieberman but at all those pussy democrats who suggested that trying to overthrow Joe was a bad thing.
Uprooting a saboteur in your midst will be some big ammo to use against the likes of Al From, etc who supported Joe even while he was stabbing us all in the back.
Lieberman already bolted the party when he showed his manlove for BushBoy.....
wolf-man |
05.20.06 - 2:39 pm | #
Tena - when are you going and where in Italy? Oh my god I'm so jealous.
mena |
05.20.06 - 2:39 pm | #
Lieberman would smash Lamont in a fist fight.
Ah, but Lamont would trash LIEberman in thumb wrestling, a pissing contest, and tiddlywinks.
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05.20.06 - 2:40 pm | #
If Holy Joe takes his ego and goes independent will Reid do the right thing and strip him of his committee positions? I suppose you'd want to avoid bruising his ego too much, because you want him to still vote with the democrats (as little as it currently is). Maybe just take away any chairs he holds (figuratively, but literally taking his chairs would be funny).
He damned sure better not get any DNC or DSCC money if he leaves the party. Schumer has been a real weasel about supporting Lieberman over Lamont, but if Mr. Joementum severs with the party Schumer better know not to support him.
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05.20.06 - 2:40 pm | #
isn't there some kind of deadline for running as an Independent? what's the story on that? can Holy Joe lose the primary and still have time to run as an Independent?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jaafari |
05.20.06 - 2:40 pm | #
repost:Wasn't "the Return of Martin Guerre" broadcast on Twilight Zone, although it was a French TV production?
's Weird, i can HEAR Rod Serling introducing it and
speaking the title, way down in the mists of memory
plantsman, lowercase |
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05.20.06 - 2:40 pm | #
Either way, I'll celebrate with a shore dinner at Lenny's...
intercourse the penguin |
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05.20.06 - 2:40 pm | #
This is great, can we please go after Hilary next?
Cargo |
05.20.06 - 2:41 pm | #
Lieberman already bolted the party when he showed his manlove for BushBoy.....
wolf-man
Boy if that ain't the truth.
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05.20.06 - 2:41 pm | #
literally taking his chairs would be funny
I'd go for putting whoopie cushions on his chairs. Whoopie cushions filled with...ACID!
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05.20.06 - 2:41 pm | #
The last few years have taught me well not to allow my hopes up. But I'm still excited that we might actually get rid of that little turd.
The thing to remember is that this was supposed to be a landslide for Joe, so there was no attempt to massage the voting process. And the people spoke - Loud and Clear. The GOP has to be flipping out right now, to say nothing of Lieberman's house.
If Lieberman somehow "wins" the next one, I think you'll hear some screaming for blood from the folks in CT. I think anyone would be testing their luck if they try to manipulate the vote up there.
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05.20.06 - 2:41 pm | #
This is great, can we please go after Hilary next?
Cargo
I don't know that she is at all vulnerable.
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05.20.06 - 2:41 pm | #
This is great, can we please go after Hilary next?
How 'bout we focus on 2006 first.
NTodd, Humpizzle™ |
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05.20.06 - 2:42 pm | #
great time to join the repugnicans!
plantsman, lowercase |
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05.20.06 - 2:42 pm | #
This is great, can we please go after Hilary next?
How 'bout we focus on 2006 first.
Oh, you mean in the primaries, I guess. Sorry.
Still, is she vulnerable in New York? Don't think so, and she's really not as bad as Joe.
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05.20.06 - 2:43 pm | #
NYMary, I gather from your presence that everything is okay? Good.
I was concerned.
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05.20.06 - 2:44 pm | #
If Lieberman somehow "wins" the next one, I think you'll hear some screaming for blood from the folks in CT. I think anyone would be testing their luck if they try to manipulate the vote up there.
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This is where I side with Woody. They've already pulled it off when it counted for them. Why wouldn't they think they can do it again and what is the plan for when they do?
mena |
05.20.06 - 2:44 pm | #
Actually, the person who should be "gone after" is Chuck Schumer, who won't commit to supporting the dem nominee in CT at this point.
res ipsa loquitur |
05.20.06 - 2:44 pm | #
Wasn't "the Return of Martin Guerre" broadcast on Twilight Zone, although it was a French TV production?
Are you confusing that with "An Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge," based on an Ambrose Bierce short story, that was run on The Twilight Zone?
Toonscribe: American, idle |
05.20.06 - 2:44 pm | #
Can we start by spelling Hillary correctly?
JeffCO |
05.20.06 - 2:44 pm | #
The GOP has to be flipping out right now,
I should clarify - the GOP is flipping out because Joe is such a reliable Republican sympathizer/appeaser.
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05.20.06 - 2:44 pm | #
Atrios,
I'd love to hear your take on what this may mean for the Republicans overall this Autumn. It looks like a good sign for the Democrats for me; is that how you read it? If Joltin' Joe goes "independent" I would be in favor of Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and Howard Dean taking him for a little drive that ends up at the farm where Hoffa's buried.
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05.20.06 - 2:44 pm | #
i'm totally ok with hill as Senator from New York
(magnificent photos, NTodd!) just not as president.
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05.20.06 - 2:45 pm | #
Are you confusing that with "An Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge," based on an Ambrose Bierce short story, that was run on The Twilight Zone?
That freaked me out when I was a kid.
NTodd, Humpizzle™ |
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05.20.06 - 2:45 pm | #
can Holy Joe lose the primary and still have time to run as an Independent?
My understanding the filing deadline to run as an independent is the day after the primary, and you need to file like 20,000 signatures to get on the ballot as an independent. So no, Lieberman could not wait until the results of the primary to decide to go independent. He has to start collecting his signatures way before the primary. Once he starts collecting the signatures he's essentially declaring himself independent, so it's a mutually-exclusive proposition.
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05.20.06 - 2:46 pm | #
Can we start by spelling Hillary correctly?
No, you Spelling Fascist! We're redefining Language and you can't stop our Revolution.
NTodd, Humpizzle™ |
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05.20.06 - 2:46 pm | #
i'm totally ok with hill as Senator from New York
(magnificent photos, NTodd!) just not as president.
I think I could live with her as president, too. My guess is that she would govern significantly to the left of where she's currently posturing.
It's just with her as the candidate that I don't like the idea of living....
blerb |
05.20.06 - 2:46 pm | #
Toonscribe, you nailed it! And the bridge, the water, that's all there on internal Kinescope.
plantsman, lowercase |
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05.20.06 - 2:47 pm | #
We're redefining Language and you can't stop our Revolution.
That doesn't sound very Integrititious.
JeffCO |
05.20.06 - 2:47 pm | #
So, where's Vicki?
"Does Al Gore want to do it again? Hard as it is to believe, the question is suddenly under serious discussion.
The former vice-president is the subject of a new documentary about global warming that opens on Wednesday. And the buzz he has been generating is fuelling speculation that he may want to return to politics"
You unhinged moonbats have gone too far this time! One anonymous comment on Wonkette's site proves that you are all EVIL, EVIL, EVIL!!
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05.20.06 - 2:47 pm | #
This is where I side with Woody. They've already pulled it off when it counted for them. Why wouldn't they think they can do it again and what is the plan for when they do?
Not enough people up there to hide the sehnanigans, if you will, esp. in light of the last year's events. I don't think the GOP could get their dirty fingers involved without anyone catching them.
I have no Integrity™. That's why I demonstrated great Noblenessicity by not signing The Pledge.
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05.20.06 - 2:48 pm | #
I saw two John Morrison and one John Tester for Senator bumpers stickers this morning. This was in the Quality Supply store parking lot. This is sort of a boutique country store, every thing from high end ranching clothing to vet supplies to parts for your tractor.
Not where I was expecting to see this.
Doug, |
05.20.06 - 2:48 pm | #
Italy is fucking expensive.
Is that partly because of BushCo's strategy of devaluing the Dollar?
wolf-man |
05.20.06 - 2:48 pm | #
Good lord....
Shenanigans, I meant.... yeesh, am I drinking already?
Yes, I am... big whoop!
Ripley |
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05.20.06 - 2:48 pm | #
Lieberman could not wait until the results of the primary to decide to go independent. He has to start collecting his signatures way before the primary. Once he starts collecting the signatures he's essentially declaring himself independent, so it's a mutually-exclusive proposition.
Which would give all the real Democrats plenty of time to aprehend him, tar and feather him, and run him into Long Island Sound on a rail...
blerb |
05.20.06 - 2:48 pm | #
Tena - when are you going and where in Italy? Oh my god I'm so jealous.
mena
I'm tagging along on a group trip with a friend. I just got the itinerary. We're not going to sit down for 10 days. Venice to Verona & Siena. Then to Florence and Rome. We're doing a 1 day optional side trip to Pompeii, which is worth the whole trip to me.
It's crazy - my friend is older than I am, as are the rest of the people in this group. These women sing together and they are going to perform several times during the trip. But I can do what I want when they are. So I get the advantage of the group rate to travel and a little more free time than they will have.
Traveling as part of a guided group is not my first choice of the way to go and I've never done it before. But when my friend offered me the opportunity to come along, I thought I'd be a fool not to.
We're seeing everything, to judge by the itinerary. That way I can figure out what I like the best for when Mr. Tena retires and we go back.
Is that partly because of BushCo's strategy of devaluing the Dollar?
Outside of Rome and Venice, it used to be an inexpensive place to travel to.
Doug, |
05.20.06 - 2:50 pm | #
D'uh - I didn't say when.
Leaving June 5. Coming back the 15th.
Tena |
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05.20.06 - 2:50 pm | #
That freaked me out as a kid.
You and me both, but beautifully made!
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05.20.06 - 2:51 pm | #
I hear now that Italy is still less expensive outside the big tourist attractions.
Unfortunately, or not - whatever you think - this trip is geared toward the big tourist attractions.
Hell, everybody has to see the Coliseum and the Uffizi and the Grand Canal once, anyway.
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05.20.06 - 2:52 pm | #
plantsman -- Glad I could help out.
That Twilight Zone episode freaked me out when I saw it, too. Later, I read the short story and loved. Even later, got into a long argument with an Eng prof in college, who said it wasn't a good story because, he claimed, it's whole impact depended on the *boo* ending for shock. I thought he was full of shit. Of course, he published books of original short stories without boo endings -- as a matter of fact, without any endings. They just kinda stopped after a couple of thousand words or so.
Toonscribe: American, idle |
05.20.06 - 2:52 pm | #
We're seeing everything, to judge by the itinerary. That way I can figure out what I like the best for when Mr. Tena retires and we go back.
==
Seems like you ought to be able to write that off as a financial-planning-related expense. Have fun, and take lotsa pictures for us.
mena |
05.20.06 - 2:52 pm | #
I have two apolitical friends in Connecticut that I have convinced to vote for Ned Lamont in the dem primary. That's 2 people that would not have voted at all.
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05.20.06 - 2:53 pm | #
Joe's already with the pack headed the wrong way in the original Poseidon Adventure.
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05.20.06 - 2:53 pm | #
Hell, everybody has to see the Coliseum and the Uffizi and the Grand Canal once, anyway.
According to the US Park Service, the Grand Canal was created when God flooded the Earth.
Ripley |
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05.20.06 - 2:54 pm | #
My mother and sisters are travelling around Florence right now. I'll let you know what they have to say about expenses.
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05.20.06 - 2:55 pm | #
The ending took my breath away! i had never seen that device used before, and he fact that i can still
see parts of it in my head means I thought it was an exceptional story. Thank you very much.
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05.20.06 - 2:55 pm | #
Your first trip to Italy, Tena?
Try to go to Capri when you're in the Pompeii/Naples area.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
05.20.06 - 2:57 pm | #
And TScribe, the whole impact doesn't come from the ending. The falling, the running, all of it works!
plantsman, lowercase |
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05.20.06 - 2:57 pm | #
Jeez, Tena, have fun. And you've never seen anything, anywhere, like Donatello's Mary Magdalene...
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05.20.06 - 2:59 pm | #
I have two apolitical friends in Connecticut that I have convinced to vote for Ned Lamont in the dem primary. That's 2 people that would not have voted at all.
squid696
Good on you, squid.
Keep that right the fuck up and we are going to get out of here.
I love that sculpture. It is one of the few that really produces an authentic experience for me. I don't respond to sculpture as a rule like I do to paintings. But that one - I've seen the pictures.
It's astounding. I can't wait to see it and whole bunch of stuff. I took 2 semesters of Renaissance Art History at TCU. If I can brag - I made the highest grade in the class both semesters, which royally ticked off the snotty Rhodes scholar in the class.
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05.20.06 - 3:02 pm | #
got into a long argument with an Eng prof in college, who said it wasn't a good story because, he claimed, it's whole impact depended on the *boo* ending for shock. I thought he was full of shit. Of course, he published books of original short stories without boo endings -- as a matter of fact, without any endings. They just kinda stopped after a couple of thousand words or so.
The wrong part of the comment I was responding too got cut.
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05.20.06 - 3:03 pm | #
BTW, blerb, we share the exact same take on Jodie Foster.
Also BTW, I really do appreciate back the appreciative comments I've been getting lately. Buzzwords like "validation" are distasteful, but they do have their place.
As I mentioned, effective last week I can't access Eschaton at work. And it really exacerbated my awareness of being addicted to this place. I should grudgingly accept the limits, since I have to admit that checking in during work hours contributed to a recent meltdown in production and control that resulted in some nasty disciplinary attention.
But, as we've been noticing again lately, "something there is that doesn't love a wall". So I feel frustrated and furious that Big Brother is slapping me down. And I'm seriously considering bringing my own notebook into work when the prospective citywide wi-fi service becomes available in September. Yet I question whether my knee-jerk impulse to restore Internet access to not only Eschaton but other blogs and video downloads, etc. is a bad sign.
And being and feeling relatively "out of touch" during the day is disorienting. So I'm trying to adjust to my reduced access, which pretty much means just climbing aboard the most recent thread. Does anyone else wonder about the-- boundaries, I guess-- of Eschatonian life?
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05.20.06 - 3:03 pm | #
the whole impact doesn't come from the ending. The falling, the running, all of it works!
Exactly. The ending doesn't diminish the emotion of what came before. In fact, I find it makes it all more poignant after re-reading it.
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05.20.06 - 3:03 pm | #
Does anyone else wonder about the-- boundaries, I guess-- of Eschatonian life?
There are boundaries? Maybe we should discuss that at the next Atriot dinner, or in a panel at EschaCon II...
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05.20.06 - 3:05 pm | #
Does anyone else wonder about the-- boundaries, I guess-- of Eschatonian life?
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I gave that up sometime during my third year here.
Elmer Fudd took some buckshot!
Malkintent |
05.20.06 - 3:41 pm | #
I can't help but wonder if Lieberman will get his friends in the Bush regime to get their friends at Diebold to "fix" the primary.
Seraphiel |
05.20.06 - 4:37 pm | #
hmmmm...2 years ago the national party picked Ken Salazer here in Colorado after Nighthorse-Campbell dropped out.
They did not even list Mike Miles who had been running for a year, speaking out against Iraq in 2002-3.
At the 2004 State convention we had our Moment and Mike Miles actually won top designation. Then the big guns and big money behind Salazar squashed Miles in the Primary.
That said, I hope there are some differences this time around. L has plenty of his own money that Miles did not have. The view (read Iraq) has changed in a couple of years. However,
the DLC (read Hillary)know what this is about. For sure Howard Dean knows what this is about.
This race is for the hearts and minds of our Party. The block we have been around since 2003-04 is more familiar.
Buckle up! THE WHOLE Party's watching.
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05.20.06 - 4:38 pm | #
ooops! I meant to say Mile spoke out against military force toward Iraq. But why listen to somebody who graduated from West Point then got graduate degrees from Berkley and Columbia...
Drew E. |
05.20.06 - 4:44 pm | #
the bigger they are,the harder they fall...joe richly deserves being the first of quite a few that shall be jettisoned,if the conneticut voting machines are not fixed.we must assume that all votes are rigged...did someone mention hillary?here in upstate new york,hillary is hated above all others,bar none,by all.she has proved to us,her constituents,that she is an evil,opportunistic,cruel,work-shybackstabbing hag.i cannot ever vote for hillary for any office,ever again because of her calm indifference to the plight of the suffering,impoverished,chronically unemployed people of central new york state.many loyal democrats like ME voted for her with a tiny sliver of hope in our hearts that she would actually do something to help,at least with the problems we have with the staggering number of poor children who live here.she doesnt even care enough about us to even just put us out of our misery by spraying us with poison like saddam did to the kurds--o,no--THAT WOULD COST THE STATE TOO MUCH $$$$$$$$$$
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