I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
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I thiink it's encouraging that they find they are having to defend themselves against criticism from bloggers. Good sign.
Clerisy? That's heresy!
January 20th, 2009. Continue to hold your breath until then. But who's counting?
So the neo-cons criticized the analysts at State and the CIA and were wrong about everything they said, so we shouldn't criticize the neo-cons for being wrong about everything, because that makes us just like the neo-cons? The logic boggles the mind...
Tucker Carlson's contract should be up next February. David Shuster sat in for him this week and the show was worlds more watchable and informative. (Wishes silently)
The second commenter at the Economist gets it:
Those who supported the war really ought to have the decency to get out of the way, apologize, and shut the bleep up, instead of scurrying around trying to protect themselves from any accountability for the disaster they foisted upon us. They are taking a lot heat now because they deserve it. In another time and place, their punishment might have been considerably more severe.
DOuble post:
More troops in Iraq today than before the dems took congress. Thanks a lot.
Can anybody in this gang tie their shoes?
It would be very dangerous to bend over around any of them.
Time to go bats. See youse in the states in a few days.
Yeah, it's the bloggers' fault. Right.
Meanwhile, it's a sunny day in the garden.
Can anybody in this gang tie their shoes?
professionals don't wear tie-ups. they slip in & out like snakes./
Its sort of a larger version of the mine disaster. When are these neoidiots going to join Dennis Miller, who is backing hiding in his spider hole until called out?
I thiink it's encouraging that they find they are having to defend themselves against criticism from bloggers. Good sign.
mer
most definitely. first it was the effort to dismiss bloggers as shrill; now o'h gives an interview to greenwald. another noteworthy was tweety's 'clarification' re his piggish behavior to eric burnett and burnett's likewise attempt to spin her comments re how the rabble should be happy to purchase cheap, toxic shit from china and stfu. neither specifically mentioned bloggers, but their comments were definitely the result of the criticism each had received by the blogs, since no one else was discussing it.
excellent.
I had clerisy for a while, but a series of shots cleared it right up.
The "foreign policy clerisy" apparently exists to close off public scrutiny of or wider debate
Which, when you think about it, is pretty much the role of clerisies worldwide.
Dead threaded
And BTW, more troops in Iraq today than before the dems took both houses.
Troutski | 08.18.07 - 11:03 am | #
Well, we can't hold them responsible for such things. They only have a majority in both houses. The Very Serious Wise Men of Washington have told us that a super-majority is now required to get anything done in Washington. So, we might as well just quiet down now. Plus, the report of Supreme General and Grand Poobah Petraeus is only a few weeks away. Obviously all our problems will be solved then. Why don't you go shopping, or maybe buy some stock? All must do their part in the Glorious War Against Everyone Else.
Barbarism Begins at Home | 08.18.07 - 11:07 am | #
Neocons, digitality is a beotch.
Will someone please start following the money trail in the media? It's just inconceivable that so many people can come up with the same wrong conclusions, that always mimic the administration, without being paid off. I'm tired of the netroots constantly pointing out how wrong these people are without doing anything to expose the probabl financial ties.
Good morning Atribats 
Yeah, it's the bloggers' fault. Right.
Meanwhile, it's a sunny day in the garden.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:08 am | #
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serene and magnifico
I had clerisy for a while,
No, no, no, you mean pleurisy. Makes your lungs hurt.
From downstairs:
Evansville.
Sinfonian, in meeting hell | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 10:53 am
Oh, that's worse.
I'm so sorry, have you been exiled?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Ah, it's not so bad. I come here about 5-6x a year for meetings. I'm used to it. Besides, I go back to Teh Wang™ tomorrow.
Left Lisa: Try over here
Tucker Carlson's contract should be up next February. David Shuster sat in for him this week and the show was worlds more watchable and informative. (Wishes silently)
plantsman, areligious | 08.18.07 - 11:04 am | #
They should tell him not to bother coming back from vacation. They could afford to pay the rest of what's owed to him, anyway. They'd more than make up for it with increased ad revenues from a far superior program.
I think Atrios hits the nail on the head again.
The good thing, as mer points out earlier, is that criticism not only of the people in the foreign-policy clerisy, but of the idea of a clerisy itself, is bubbling up in more and more places.
I'm 54 years old and I can tell you that: a) this group has existed since I started paying attention to (and understanding, to the degree that I can) our government and its policies; and b) it has been largely populated by conceited dolts and reprehensible people for all that time.
Unfortunately, we probably can't invent a time machine, go back to the 1970s and change history so that Henry Kissinger gets recognized as a war criminal rather than lionized as a foreign-policy genius whose opinions will be given deference for the rest of his life.
So let's settle for trying to make sure that Max Boot, Peter Beinart and the rest of the clowns Atrios mentions have to spend their golden years flipping soy burgers in an environmentally friendly fast-food restaurant.
Not that I'm bitter.
Clerisy... So sweet.
Once upon a time, there were foreign policy experts in government. Remember 'government'? Diplomats? The Department of State? What these people are arguing in favour of is simply another form of non-accountable conduct which is meant to be substituted for governmental, accountable conduct. That is the point behind these handmade 'institutes' and their self-annointed scholars. They have an equivalent value to the 'mining experts' who argue anyway they're paid to, the 'health experts' who are paid to endorse tobacco and the 'military experts' who are owned by the merchants of death. It's private enterprise in areas where privacy cannot be encouraged.
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INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. Only one percent of the population has an INFJ Personality Type, making it the most rare of all the types.
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst | 08.18.07 - 11:07 am | #
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to know me is to love me xxxxxxxxx oooooooo hehehehehehe
They exist to monopolize debate and have veto status over club members.
And when people call them on it, they throw fits that rival the most infantile amongst us.
I say: let them have their kewl kidz lunch table in the cafeteria. I'll continue to lob wads of cheese at them.
Ah, it's not so bad. I come here about 5-6x a year for meetings. I'm used to it. Besides, I go back to Teh Wang™ tomorrow.
Sinfonian, in meeting hell | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:12 am
It's all greek to me...
No, no, no, you mean pleurisy. Makes your lungs hurt.
Pleurisy? No, I'm not Mormon.
It's all greek to me...
Tom - 大肚腩
Very subtly done, my friend.
t's private enterprise in areas where privacy cannot be encouraged.
What GWPDA said.
I'm a FICA by the way. Or, maybe a RICO. Sometimes a DEVO.
Anybody got too many tomatoes? From The Guardian, of all places.
Roast sieved tomatoes (Passata)
The basic procedure, but vary the amounts of garlic and herbs to suit your own taste. Makes about a litre.
At least 2kg ripe, full-flavoured tomatoes - use different varieties and a mixture of sizes, all cut in half
2-3 garlic cloves, finely chopped
2 tbsp olive oil
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
A few sprigs fresh thyme and marjoram (optional, but preferable)
Preheat the oven to 180C/350F/gas mark 4. Arrange the tomato halves - tightly packed but not on top of each other - in an ovenproof dish. Mix the garlic with the oil and trickle evenly over the tomatoes. Season lightly with salt and pepper, and throw in the herbs, if using.
Roast for 45-60 minutes, until the tomatoes are soft, pulpy and slightly charred. Rub the mixture through a fine sieve, discard the skins and seeds, and that's it - your sauce is ready to use.
to know me is to love me xxxxxxxxx oooooooo hehehehehehe
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst | 08.18.07 - 11:14 am | #
works for me, sp
Next week is going to be "Tony My Cancer's Back Snow Week"
Poor guy. He should have left to spend more time with his family a year ago.
I say: let them have their kewl kidz lunch table in the cafeteria. I'll continue to lob wads of cheese at them.
Zap Rowsdower, p,ɥɐz | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:14 am
Herr Doktor K is currently in negotiations on how much it will cost to have your table mates stage a coup and throw you in to the bowels of a copper mine or football stadium
The "foreign policy clerisy" apparently exists to close off public scrutiny of or wider debate about America's appropriate role in the world, to limit the range of options which are "on or off the table
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which then becomes conventional wisdom
aighhhhhhhhhhhhhht!!!!
Pleurisy? No, I'm not Mormon.
But you have a menagerie, albeit, not glass.
Is clerisy the disease that makes you want to stay drunk all the time?
Anybody got too many tomatoes? From The Guardian, of all places.
Roast sieved tomatoes (Passata)
The basic procedure, but vary the amounts of garlic and herbs to suit your own taste. Makes about a litre.
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great idea...thanx
Is clerisy the disease that makes you want to stay drunk all the time?
Alcoholics will often have a "moment of clerisy" before going straight.
? for GWPDA from below:
GWPDA--I thought thyroid replacements prior to synthetics came from pigs?
Lambs and sheep as well?
BTW, if we have some kind of true economic/societal breakdown, and Big Pharma can't get it's products to us--what do peeps who need thyroid hormone do? I occasionally worry about that....
Is clerisy the disease that makes you want to stay drunk all the time?
I think that's ever-clerisy...
Is clerisy the disease that makes you want to stay drunk all the time?
No, that would be the Bush junta.
ok ...i WILL go try out my new electric broom ...even though this is more fun
Time to go bats. See youse in the states in a few days.
Troutski | 08.18.07 - 11:05 am
Welcome Back, sir. Did you enjoy your time abroad? Did you happen to travel to any locations where terrorists have been active in the last few years? Did you buy anything from swarthy looking fellows during your time there?
Yes yes... step right this way. We've been expecting you.
Is clerisy the disease that makes you want to stay drunk all the time?
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 08.18.07 - 11:20 am | #
if so, i'm the exalted ruler of it. whatever the fuck it is...
"Tony My Cancer's Back Snow Week"
Poor guy.
I feel sorry for the cancer. It has to live in such a putrid body.
blogwhore time: Sometime ago I mentioned that I would be blogging under my real name at a major film site. Well, the switch will be thrown on the morning of Oct. 15th. Help me, Baby Jesus.
WalterNeff, congratulations.
"There's no need to fear--Underdog is here!"
scratch that post. i looked it up. i'm not the exalted ruler of it... nor would i want to be.
Walter,
Oh, do tell! Details!
Hecate, truly, if public health stats are to be believed, the Bush Junta is well and truly making people sick.
what do peeps who need thyroid hormone do? I occasionally worry about that....
jawbone
Lambies and piggies too. We do what my greatgrandfather made his children do - we eat a lot of seafood and kelp-related material.
Felicitations, WalterNeff.
The Foreign Policy Community exists so we can be an empire without having to think about it. They bypass the conscience function of democratic debate, allowing us to be evil while pretending we're good.
Also: Padilla, A One-Act Play.
Sallyh,
They're not doing my liver any good at all.
Hecate, yeah, my liver's been the first casualty of the past 6.5 years.
Seriously, I never drank this much.
I'm so sorry, have you been exiled?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Ah, it's not so bad. I come here about 5-6x a year for meetings. I'm used to it. Besides, I go back to Teh Wang™ tomorrow.
Sinfonian, in meeting hell | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:12 am |
Why Evansville? Why not Columubus (Ohio, not Indiana) or Chicago?
I can't mention the site yet, it's undergoing a redesign and rebranding. Pesky NDAs.
WalterNeff, 15 Oct is a most auspicious day--it's Mlle's birthday.
NTodd has seen bikini pics of her.
This is probably excellent too - altho there's more sugar in it than necessary for preserving.
Roast tomato ketchup
Makes about a litre.
1 litre roast tomato sauce (see preceding recipe)
100g soft brown sugar
100ml cider vinegar
Pinch of salt
1 tbsp ground black pepper
Pinch of ground mace
Pinch of cayenne pepper
˝ tsp ground allspice
˝ tsp ground coriander
2 bay leaves
Put the tomato sauce into a large saucepan and add all the other ingredients. Cook over a low heat, stirring, until the sugar has dissolved. Simmer gently, stirring frequently so the mixture doesn't stick, for about 45 minutes, or until the sauce is reduced, thick and rich - it doesn't have to be as thick as bottled ketchup, though. Taste and adjust the flavour as necessary with a little more salt, sugar, cayenne pepper or vinegar. Leave to cool, then pour into sterilised bottles and seal. The ketchup will keep in the fridge for up to four weeks.
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I've seen bikini pics of NTodd eating Skittles
Can anybody in this gang tie their shoes?
That's what the duct tape is for.
i'm going to need to get my bladder surgically enlarged if i keep drinking at the pace i have maintained of late...
WalterNeff, a terrifying image.
Okay, it's Saturday. I went out to the yard to prove that flowers do grow in Michigan as well.
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fokowi, the longer the junta stays in power, the larger my liquor bill.
I have a confession: I drank an entire bottle of wine last night. However, that's not the confession part of this comment. Here is the confession part:
It cost 5.99
Hecate and DWD, lovely gardens.
I could show a picture of my dead brown lawn...
experts agree - everything is fine.
-- tom tomorrow
GWPDA,
On the previous receipt. Do you cook the tomatoes covered?
indeed, sallyh. indeed.
I had to go look up "clerisy".
:: hangs head ::
Purty lillies, Hecate.
I went out to the yard to prove that flowers do grow in Michigan as well.
Are you sure you're not in Hawaii? 
Beautiful!
WalterNeff, that's like the most expensive wine we ever drink.
We're doing quantity as opposed to quality these days.
i paid 4.99 for a bottle of two buck chuck. weird, huh?
fokowi, you wuz robbed.
Good morning, bats! Sorry, we just got up on the W. coast, and I'm a few Atrios rants behind. Have people discussed yet the *comments* on the LA Times real estate blog Atrios linked to below? I was shocked. So many of them immediately blame "greedy" people for losing their homes/getting shaky mortgages. I remember when we bought, they totally twisted our arms to get a dubious mortgage--we had to be really firm about getting the standard 30 year. Is it just idiots who read that blog, or has the scope of this--"It can't happen to me, I'm not greedy"--just not sunk in??
With all the WH resignations I'm looking forward to the video of Bush personally loading the Bekins truck in Jan 09.
This just in ... Council on Foreign Relations to be renamed "Guardian Council" ... developing ....
tiki, it's the Republican way--blame the recipients.
I have a confession: I drank an entire bottle of wine last night. However, that's not the confession part of this comment. Here is the confession part:
It cost 5.99
Six buck chuck? Or something else? I've had a couple of cheapo varieties from TJs that were kinda awesome.
freight is a killer to get stuff out here in the middle of nowhere. well, not actually in the middle of nowhere, but i can see it from here.
my dead brown lawn
What is a a lawn?
Such lovely weather for an August 18th (happens to be two exes of mine's birthdays today).
Rainy and in the 60s. Very Seattle-like in the Bellingham of the upper-midwest: St. Paul.
I don't remember the name of the wine: It had an apartment complex sounding name like Glenforest Hill Farms or The Reserve at Parkhills Geln or something like that.
Maybe it was Glengarry Glen Wine
Doug, a lawn is a pretense that people in L.A. keep up.
Do you cook the tomatoes covered?
Nope. Open roast them, tightly packed together.
Why Evansville? Why not Columubus (Ohio, not Indiana) or Chicago?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
National HQ. Been here since 1967.
The last time I mowed a lawn was when my dad told me to go mow the lawn.
Hecate and DWD, lovely gardens.
I could show a picture of my dead brown lawn...
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 08.18.07 - 11:30 am
I could post a picture of the dead lawn and the lot where the bar used to be.
tiki, it's the Republican way--blame the recipients.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Yeah, it's quite possible that's who's reading the real estate section.
I've just heard "liberal" people say some prety awful things these past few years. e.g., soldiers in Iraq? "It's their problem. They volunteered to go!"
NTodd has seen bikini pics of her.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Hey! So have I!
Maybe it was Glengarry Glen Wine
I would so buy Glengarry Glen Wine.
Even if it was EIGHT bucks!
Why Evansville? Why not Columubus (Ohio, not Indiana) or Chicago?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
National HQ. Been here since 1967.
Sinfonian, in meeting hell | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:36 am |
Why Evansville? Did they just throw a dart at them map?
We've had so much rain here that the bermuda grass is emerald green and lush. Startling in its own way - certainly nothing that I've done.
Glengarry Glen Wine is for closers.
WalterNeff, that's like the most expensive wine we ever drink.
We're doing quantity as opposed to quality these days.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Ah, another devotee of Althouse Cellars, Inc.
i paid 4.99 for a bottle of two buck chuck. weird, huh?
Our two buck chuck has always been six buck chuck. Which doesn't seem fair.
tikistitch--
The utter bizarro racism of the comments struck me on the LA blog, too. I had no idea the current liquidity crisis was a direct result of illegal immigration.
Such lovely weather for an August 18th (happens to be two exes of mine's birthdays today).
Woulda been my dad's ninetieth today.
rain has let up. gonna go sit on the dock and do some more thinking and drinking.
hope i didn't dumb down the blog too much this morning.
thanks for putting up with me.
peace
Our two buck chuck has always been six buck chuck. Which doesn't seem fair.
tikistitch
The juice is the cheapest part of most wines, or nearly so... corks, bottles, shipping, marketing expenses... that's what ya pays for, often as not.
Why Evansville? Did they just throw a dart at them map?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Long story. Basically we moved here in '67 (from Murray (Ky.) State Univ.) to join up with a planned American Classical Music Hall of Fame. The HoF fell through, but we bought property here in 1970 and stayed.
a lawn is a pretense that people in L.A. keep up.
If you live where I do, you might grow a 1 square meter lawn, but even that is madness. It's much cheaper to cover your yard in tile than water those silly plants.
The utter bizarro racism of the comments struck me on the LA blog, too. I had no idea the current liquidity crisis was a direct result of illegal immigration.
Oh, yeah, dontcha know, Mexicans have superpowers. When they're not spending 20 hours/day cleaning your house or gathering your food or cleaning WalMart or bringing up your child for you, they're f*cking the American economy. Oh, and burning the flag too I guess. *gah*
Why Evansville? Did they just throw a dart at them map?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Long story. Basically we moved here in '67 (from Murray (Ky.) State Univ.) to join up with a planned American Classical Music Hall of Fame. The HoF fell through, but we bought property here in 1970 and stayed.
Sinfonian, in meeting hell | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:42 am
It's cute!
And in Evansville, the expenses would be less.
The juice is the cheapest part of most wines, or nearly so... corks, bottles, shipping, marketing expenses... that's what ya pays for, often as not.
I did not know that! Just wondering why Trader Joes sells its wine for 2 bucks in one state, but 6 bucks where I live. Costco has (or at least used to have) uniform prices everywhere--even in Alaska, where prices can get pretty insane.
The juice is the cheapest part of most wines, or nearly so... corks, bottles, shipping, marketing expenses... that's what ya pays for, often as not.
SteveLG | 08.18.07 - 11:42 am | #
time is the dearest part of wine
It's cute!
And in Evansville, the expenses would be less.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
It's very large, actually. The picture is deceptive; the building lies on a hill, so there's a whole floor beneath what you see, plus several outer buildings. We own something like 7 acres overall.
TJ's has always pointed out that as you go farther from CA, $2chuck's price is increased by the costs of shipping. It's $3.99 in AZ.
Oh, yeah, dontcha know, Mexicans have superpowers.
why are so many mexicans from ecuador and columbia?
Is it okay that I really don't like wine?
I prefer Popov.
I prefer Popov.
Zap Rowsdower, p,ɥɐz
In Soviet Union, Popov prefers you!
I thought the most expensive part of wine production was the pretense and snobbery.
(I don't like wine so what the heck do I know?)
TJ's has always pointed out that as you go farther from CA, $2chuck's price is increased by the costs of shipping. It's $3.99 in AZ.
GWPDA, yclept Roving Historian
State taxes would have to be factored in, and the expenses/profits of whoever "distributes" the wine for them in a given state.
TJ's may own the wine but they can't just ship a container of it into each state... it has to go through a licensed distributor who "clears" and warehouses it for them for a presumably nominal charge.
The legacy of prohibition and its repeal.
why are so many mexicans from ecuador and columbia?
I haven't lived in Cali for nearly 20 years, so I don't know if it's current, but when the people there used to go off on a rant, it was always "Mexicans this" and "Mexicans that." Not "people from Latin America," and no matter that the people they were screeching about had been in this country a generation or two (ie, Americans, duh).
In Soviet Union, Popov prefers you!
Heh. But I believe that it's Chicago's finest, cheapest vodka.
We here in Minnesota, are home to Shakers Vodka.
TJ's may own the wine but they can't just ship a container of it into each state... it has to go through a licensed distributor who "clears" and warehouses it for them for a presumably nominal charge.
That might actually be the deal in WA state. We still have this crazy system where you can only buy "likker" (other than wine & beer) from a state liquor store.
I haven't lived in Cali for nearly 20 years, so I don't know if it's current, but when the people there used to go off on a rant, it was always "Mexicans this" and "Mexicans that."
Here in the mid-Atlantic it was "the Veetmaneese" for a long time. Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laos, Koreans, Chinese, you name it.
In Soviet Union, Popov prefers you!
Reminds me, what the hell ever happened to poor old Yakov Smirnov (sp?)? Does he lay awake at night hoping for the Commies to come back & make his jokes work?
But I believe that it's Chicago's finest, cheapest vodka.
Fermented from something normally not eaten in a pig?
you can only buy "likker" (other than wine & beer) from a state liquor store.
Same in VA.
PA has the craziest alcohol beverage control laws in the country, without exception. Atrios should do a post about it.
Reminds me, what the hell ever happened to poor old Yakov Smirnov (sp?)?
Branson, MO's what happened to him.
but when the people there used to go off on a rant, it was always "Mexicans this" and "Mexicans that.
brown people's nationality changes as they move around.
in california, they are mexican. florida, cuban. new york, puerto rican.
funny that.
PA has the craziest alcohol beverage control laws in the country, without exception. Atrios should do a post about it.
Wow. Crazier than us? Literally, until a few months ago, you couldn't purchase alky-hol here on a Sunday.
Reminds me, what the hell ever happened to poor old Yakov Smirnov (sp?)? Does he lay awake at night hoping for the Commies to come back & make his jokes work?
tikistitch
Yep, Zap said it. Yakov is an institution in Branson now.
Until about twenty years ago, in AZ you couldn't buy liquor with a credit card....
Literally, until a few months ago, you couldn't purchase alky-hol here on a Sunday.
Liquor stores are closed on Sundays here.
You can't buy wine or spirits in grocery stores.
And you can't buy 3/2 beer before noon on Sundays in the few stores that actually still sell it.
Meeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnaaaasoooooooootah!!
Wow. Crazier than us? Literally, until a few months ago, you couldn't purchase alky-hol here on a Sunday.
tikistitch |
still can't in georgia. some of dry counties and towns, too.
we took a trip to north ga once to see the gold mining museums in dalonegha, in some town up there you couldn't order alchohol in a restaurant on sunday.
The charges the bloggers are making now are very similar to those that the neocons made a few years ago: mainstream foreign-policy experts are politicised careerists, biased hacks, and hide-bound traditionalists who have gotten everything wrong in the past and don't deserve to be listened to in the future. . . . Back then, the neocons directed their fire primarily at the national security bureaucracies — freedom-hating mediocrities at the CIA, pin-striped wussies at the State Department, cowardly soldiers at the Pentagon. Now the bloggers' attacks are generally aimed at the think-tank world.
So not really similar at all. Indeed, rather than emulating the neocons, the bloggers are more attacking the ivory-towered neocons.
And you can't buy 3/2 beer before noon on Sundays in the few stores that actually still sell it.
Here, grocery stores are allowed to sell wine & beer. But, not after a certain time of night (believe it's 1 am). So if you're in a 24 hour store, they cover up that section and you have to wait.
Pennsylvania's the craziest in terms of red tape... seems like all states have a variety of loopy regulations.
The state itself is the "distributor" for all alcoholic beverages sold in the state, at retail or on-premises. It's the largest purchaser of wine and liquor in the US, and except for Ontario's Liquor Control Board, in the world.
Zap, I thought Karkov was the Minnesota vodka.
And you can't buy 3/2 beer before noon on Sundays in the few stores that actually still sell it.
Meeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnaaaasoooooooootah!!
Zap Rowsdower, p,ɥɐz | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:01 pm |
When we moved from Illinois, where you could by alcohol anywere at anytime, to Ohio where you couldn't, and if you wanted anything 'hard' you had to get it from the state, Dad had a bit of a culture shock.
China has banned Buddhist monks in Tibet from reincarnating without government permission.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2022.../site/newsweek/
Hmmm, there's something to this concept.
Tell fundies they can not be raptured till they pay a 'fair and reasonable' tax.
Zap, I thought Karkov was the Minnesota vodka.
dew, Edwards/Kucinich
Maybe it's Vikov. (The logo is purple and gold.)
The Whole Foods in Louisville, KY has to have a separate wine shop which closes on Sunday, otherwise the whole store would have to be closed.
Beer is sold in the store proper, however. That's okay.
Nutzo.
They have strange liquor laws all over the northwest. Once when my aunt and I tried to get a certain cocktail in Idaho, the waitress told us, "We can't make that one any more, they decided they weren't going to sell orange liqueur any more in this state." That's definitely what I want MY elected representative doing--outlawing orange liqueur.
So if you're in a 24 hour store, they cover up that section and you have to wait.
tikistitch | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:04 pm | #
they don't bother to cover it up here. i've forgotten sometimes and had a bottle of wine in the cart on a sunday - cashier just gives you a dirty look and says "it's sunday", puts the wine to the side.
Crack Smoking Republicans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2pDhKI6rkTE
When I lived in St. Paul there was always a train of cars over to Hudson, Wisconsin to buy beer/liquor on Sundays.
I thought Karkov was the Minnesota vodka.
Yeah, it is. Distributed by Phillips in Princeton.
But, IIRC, Popov is from Chi-town. Either way, good buzz when your on a budget.
Anybody remember the old Texas blue laws? NO DIAPERS on Sunday!
popov is the ripple of vodka.
Anybody remember the old Texas blue laws? NO DIAPERS on Sunday!
nuncamas
No shit?
There isn't actually an "economic policy clerisy" or an "environmental policy clerisy" or a "housing policy clerisy."
Well, there does seem to be a "health care" clerisy. Nobody seems to be Seriously Considering getting the insurance companies out of the loop, or reexamining patent law to see whether it is accomplishing what was intended by the Founders in our pharmaceutical development.
It's hard to not come to the conclusion that these things are all, ultimately, about money. That the Serious Foreign Policy establishment exist to keep the US on war footing, regardless of threat. That Serious Health Care Reform involves keeping insurance companies involved.
BTW, if you're in the Bay Area and looking for something to do today...!
When I lived in St. Paul there was always a train of cars over to Hudson, Wisconsin to buy beer/liquor on Sundays.
Still do.
Also going to get fireworks all times of the year.
Anybody remember the old Texas blue laws? NO DIAPERS on Sunday!
nuncamas
We had crazy stuff like that in South Carolina when I was a kid, too. It was like, you could buy baby powder but not diapers ... all kinds of inconsistencies.
they don't bother to cover it up here. i've forgotten sometimes and had a bottle of wine in the cart on a sunday - cashier just gives you a dirty look and says "it's sunday", puts the wine to the side.
When I first moved here from Cali (where you can get anything any time), and didn't know how screwed up it was, I got yelled at by a grocery store security guard. Then he realized it was like, 12:58 am or whatever, and I was OK for the next 2 minutes.
You can't buy wine or spirits in grocery stores.
When Stef and I were first dating she still lived in the Cities. Shopping one night for ingredients so as for NTodd to make da nice dinner, I asked her where the wine aisle was. She laughed.
No shit?
SteveLG | 08.18.07 - 12:09 pm | #
damn you stevelg!
Then he realized it was like, 12:58 am or whatever, and I was OK for the next 2 minutes.
tikistitch | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:10 pm | #
yeah. i've done the emergency 11:30 beer run to quicktrip.
I asked her where the wine aisle was. She laughed.
There was big push last legislative session by the grocery stores to get wine in their stores.
Didn't work out. Instead, we can legally scalp tickets now. Priorities, and shit...
I we hadn't been molested by the foreign-policy clerisy, we wouldn'ta been so hostile to them.
I asked her where the wine aisle was. She laughed.
NTodd, Fuck | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:10 pm | #
some people laugh at the oddest things.
often its just nervousness.
yeah. i've done the emergency 11:30 beer run to quicktrip.
Step aside, citizens, it's EMERGENCY BEER!
Thank the goddess there's no blue laws for chocolate.
some people laugh at the oddest things.
often its just nervousness.
[nervous chuckle]
Is "clerisy" even a word?
Is "clerisy" even a word?
Yup. It's what teens use to cover zits.
Step aside, citizens, it's EMERGENCY BEER!
I’ll just come out and say it: the netroots' attitude toward professionals isn’t that different from the neocons',
except the netroots goes after the clerisy for being wrong. the neocons attack when they are right (er, correct).
some people laugh at the oddest things.
And others, the darndest.
Is "clerisy" even a word?
nuncamas
What's another word for synonym?
Step aside, citizens, it's EMERGENCY BEER!
hey, when you've got people coming over to the pool on sunday it's no laughing matter.
Global warming cutting growth rate of trees in rainforests
NEW YORK: Global warming could cut the rate at which trees in tropical rainforests grow by as much as half, a new study based on more two decades of data from forests in Panama and Malaysia shows.
The effects, so far largely overlooked by climate modellers, Nature magazine said, could severely erode or even remove the ability of tropical rainforests to remove carbon dioxide from the air as they grow.
The study, it said, shows that rising average temperatures have reduced growth rates by up to 50 per cent in the two rainforests, which have both experienced climate warming above the world average over the past few decades. The trend is shown by data stretching back to 1981 collected from hundreds of thousands of individual trees, Nature said.
If other rainforests follow suit as world temperatures rise, important carbon stores such as the pristine old-growth forests of the Amazon could conceivably stop storing as much carbon, Ken Feeley of Harvard University's Arnold Arboretum in Boston, who presented the research at the annual meeting of the Ecological Society of America in San Jose, California, was quoted as saying.
The amount of carbon that a forest stores depends on the balance between the rate at which it draws carbon dioxide from the atmosphere through photosynthesis and the rate at which it gives carbon dioxide back through respiration.
In carbon sinks, which are mostly found at high latitudes, photosynthesis outstrips respiration and the amount of carbon stored increases.
I'm hung over and this is confusing. Is it good news for Republicans?
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What's another word for synonym?
Sinfonian, in meeting hell | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:16 pm | #
i don't know, but i just coined an antonym for clerisy.
illiterati ©
I'm hung over and this is confusing. Is it good news for Republicans?
only if they have stock in popov.
I'm glad to be back living in sconi...land of freedom for beer and brats...anytime, anywhere.
gas station, grocery store, corner store, bars everywhere.
except the netroots goes after the clerisy for being wrong. the neocons attack when they are right (er, correct).
And I don't think a lot of the people the netroots attack even qualify as "clerisy," they're more like self proclaimed clerisy. Or, frakking piece o' spit windbags.
Clerisy = clerical + heresy
*sigh* i have no new posts to blogwhore.
had two yesterday, tho.
they're more like self proclaimed clerisy
professional amatuers.
What's another word for synonym?
I think you broke my brain.
Aiiight. Gotta do some packin' and movin' and shit.
Later!
intileck .... intellickta ...
smart sheets.
Oops, emergency beer sheets!
as eo what Atrios said - I was coming to remind everyone what friedman said the other day in that interview about how not sorry he was - he claims he checked his politics at the door and that's the biggest stinkingest lie of them all - he checked his values at the door if he really was, as he says a "liberal!" They checked the belief in habeus corpus etcetera, etcetera etceter!
(I get tired and sad if I take the time to recount the litany of theft and murder and lies constitutional violations and bullying and incompetence. That's the killer part too... I mean these guys are the Peter Principle in action.)
Members of the community are clearly chosen for the ability to perpetuate this agenda, rather than for their expertise. Max Boot? Peter Beinart? Pollack? O'Hanlon? Can anybody in this gang tie their shoes?...
I agree with all the above names but I'm left wondering why you continue to leave off your BFFL Matt Yglesias.Matt belongs there with those that supported this fiasco, at least initially.
It is worth noting that the crisis in Iraq was largely the result of people not knowing what the hell they're talking about advising people who didn't understand what the hell they were hearing. Unfortunately, as we all know, the presence of a PhD is not enough to make sure all pertinent facts are considered.
What we need is better historical education taught to everyone to help contextualize the bullshit we're spoon-fed by the politicians, because the real problems happen when people believe things like superpowers can remake weak states into whatever image they like in a cakewalk.
Doesn't the community of neoclassical economists constitute a kind of clerisy? When was the last time a truly heterodox economist had any impact on American economic policy making?
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