I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Of course the can't.


blah meant they can't


The stupid are rewarded these days...


GravatarCan't wait to see PZ Myers at Pharyngula tee off on Slate over this shit.


GravatarPerhaps the "Mr. Science" construction is meant to be facetious? Since it's not "Dr. Science", maybe it's a subtle play on his scienciness?


Gravatarhas slate gone downhill in the last three or four years, or have my standards improved?


GravatarI suggest that with the cretin in chief on constant display, one might not think 'intelligent' went well with 'design'.


GravatarI know, I know, giving them waaaay too much credit, plus how many readers would even notice?


GravatarInterestingly enough, the book The Blind Watchmaker tore apart the Intelligent Design "theory" nearly twenty years ago.


GravatarPerhaps he has a Masters Degree. In Science!


GravatarI think the "Mr Science" referred to in the article's title is meant to be Al Gore, not the Easterbrook dunderhead.


Gravatar"a rich, absorbing hypothesis" -- what pure and utter bullcrap.


Gravatarscience, schmience, I say.


GravatarI guess science ain't what it used to be.

But isn't that part of the rethug/fundy agenda.


GravatarI think the "Mr Science" referred to in the article's title is meant to be Al Gore, not the Easterbrook dunderhead.

Could be. I sure as hell don't want to read it.


GravatarIntelligent design is a sophisticated theory now being argued out in the nation's top universities

I'm sorry, but how is "some intelligent, powerful entity created the Universe" sophisticated? Maybe the debates are sophisticated, but, surely, the theory isn't.

What's next, "the many subtle factors of gravity"?


GravatarCan't you find a "Mr. Science" who doesn't think science="some shit we talked about drunk while I was getting my political science and journalism degrees."

-Atrios 1:19 PM


this IS Slate you're talkin' about here, bubba...


GravatarPerhaps the "Mr. Science" construction is meant to be facetious? Since it's not "Dr. Science", maybe it's a subtle play on his scienciness?

His science is about as science-y as the science in Mansquito, which as Eli points out, is on Sci-Fi channel this evening.


GravatarHis science is about as science-y as the science in Mansquito, which as Eli points out, is on Sci-Fi channel this evening.

Tomorrow evening.




You never studied.


Gravatar"a rich, absorbing hypothesis" -- what pure and utter bullcrap.


He is an utter tool.


GravatarMr. Science? Easterbrook is more like Mr. Lost In Space, isn't he?


GravatarI'm sorry, but how is "some intelligent, powerful entity created the Universe" sophisticated? Maybe the debates are sophisticated, but, surely, the theory isn't.
==

Duh. That's why he told you it's so sophisticated. So you would know.


GravatarYou never studied.



Fine movie, and still one of my top three.


GravatarWhoops. You are correct.

I'm confused. As usual.


And I did too study!! sometimes.


GravatarDammit, I have to get out of here. It's beautiful weather out, and I need to take pictures and buy Dr Pepper (2-liter for postgame cookout and six-pack for regular postgame consumption)...


GravatarMr. "Weird" Science to you.


GravatarBesides Mansquito, my top three includes Mammoth and Hammerhead: Shark Frenzy!!


GravatarYes, 'Mr Science' is meant to be an ironic jab at Gore, not a reference to Easterbrook:

An Inconvenient Truth spends too little time on what audiences might do about global warming, too much time trying to impress us with the Ask Mr. Science side of Gore's personality.

Although that passage suggests a rather dirty pot calling a fairly shiny kettle.


GravatarMaybe, like Blake "Peanut" Gottesman, he finished a year of college and then was bought into an M.S. program.


GravatarI think the "Mr Science" referred to in the article's title is meant to be Al Gore, not the Easterbrook dunderhead.

Could be. I sure as hell don't want to read it.

Eli

I refuse to read Easterbrook because of a local shortage of brain cleanser.


GravatarMr. Peabody wouldn't even allow Sherman to keep Easterbrook as a science project.


GravatarDammit, I have to get out of here. It's beautiful weather out, and I need to take pictures and buy Dr Pepper (2-liter for postgame cookout and six-pack for regular postgame consumption)...

I need to get out of here too.

Lion kitty finally got off of my lap, so I can get up now.


GravatarMaybe, like Blake "Peanut" Gottesman, he finished a year of college and then was bought into an M.S. program.

Really? I don't think he ever got past the B.S. stage.


GravatarMaybe, like Blake "Peanut" Gottesman, he finished a year of college and then was bought into an M.S. program.

That story just pisses me off.


GravatarLion kitty finally got off of my lap, so I can get up now.

Heh. The shadowy and mysterious Codename V's granddad was so thin, and his cat was so big, that he literally could not get up unless someone removed the cat for him.


Gravatar Perhaps the "Mr. Science" construction is meant to be facetious? Since it's not "Dr. Science", maybe it's a subtle play on his scienciness?

I do read it like "Doctor Science", but I don't they're being facetious.


GravatarIt's too crappy here to do anything outside. Hooray!


GravatarCan't you find a "Mr. Science" who doesn't think science="some shit we talked about drunk while I was getting my political science and journalism degrees."

Thank you.
I have a science degree, and while there was a fair amount of drinking involved (mostly in the field), there was very little philosophizing. Mostly it was just cussed hard work.

(You know, the kind of thing we liberals supposedly can't/won't do, because we're so soft and shiftless and decadent.)


GravatarIt's too crappy here to do anything outside. Hooray!

I hate you.


GravatarAsk Mr. Science: "The moral flaws"

Huh? Guess 'Mr. Science' couldn't find any scientific flaws with the movie. And WTF does Gore making out with his wife* have to do with Mr. Science's movie review.

*Yeah. You forgot about that part didn't you Mr. Morality, er, Science.


GravatarAlthough that passage suggests a rather dirty pot calling a fairly shiny kettle.


That's what I get for not reading it. Easterbrook is a science poseur, imo. A science groupie, perhaps.


Gravatarby the way, old people really have a lot of sex

STDs Running Rampant In Retirement Community


Doctors said sexually transmitted diseases among senior citizens are running rampant at a popular Central Florida retirement community, according to a Local 6 News report.A gynecologist at The Villages community near Orlando, Fla., said she treats more cases of herpes and the human papilloma virus in the retirement community than she did in the city of Miami.

"Yeah, they are very shocked (to hear the diagnosis)," gynecologist Dr. Colleen McQuade said. "I had a patient in her 80s."

"More and more senior citizens are ending up in the gynecologist office, and their diagnosis is a sexually transmitted disease," Local 6 reporter Vanessa Medina said.Local 6 featured Louis Franklin, who used to date in the community at least three times a week.

"I have had a better dating life since I have been here than I have ever had," Franklin said. "I know there are things going around."

A doctor blamed Viagra, a lack of sex education and no risk for pregnancy for the spike in sexually transmitted diseases at The Villages.

"All I can repeat are the things I have heard which are things like, 'Should I bring the little blue pills over tonight?'" community singles group president Richard Matwyshen said.


GravatarAnd WTF does Gore making out with his wife* have to do with Mr. Science's movie review.

*Yeah. You forgot about that part didn't you Mr. Morality, er, Science.


Just imagine if she gave him a blowjob. That would invaldate Gore's entire premise for sure!


GravatarOh and the only guy who deserves to be called "Mr. Science" is Bill Nye, Science Guy. Or maybe Carl Sagan, but he's dead.


GravatarJeebus Fucking Christmas, why is it so hard to put these dipshits to bed?

In 2006, you can expose yourself as a sucker for the ages, a moron beyond redemption, a willful propounder of breathtaking inanity and lies ... and even after you've been shot down, stripped, and flogged in front of the entire village, you CAN STILL FIND WORK PEDDLING THE SAME CRAP.

It's sad, really.


GravatarGreek and Roman mythology was "sophisticated", too. The best fictions traditionally are.

Now, if you slept in, Mo Do warns us that we've met the enemy in Kaditha... and it's us.


GravatarSTDs Running Rampant In Retirement Community

Oh dear.

AARPes.


GravatarI hate you.
==

Hey man, I earned my sloth this week. It's wallowin time.


GravatarIt's wallowin time.

Mena is The Thing's extremely lazy sister.


Gravatargonna Flog the Blog and then Walk the Dogs...

My The Memorial Day Holiday & Anti-War Protest ain't all that bad...a bit sober, and Memorial, and all, but not bad...
if'n i say so m'self...

just saying...


GravatarJust imagine if she gave him a blowjob. That would invaldate Gore's entire premise for sure!

Scientists never get blowjobs.


Gravatarremember when Bill Nye, Science Guy, was on Olbermann a few months to crush Intelligent design? That was good


GravatarThank you. I have a science degree, and while there was a fair amount of drinking involved (mostly in the field), there was very little philosophizing. Mostly it was just cussed hard work.


Thank you or saying that. I'm not a scientist. I don't play one on the Intranets, but I am married to one.

Easterbrook and his ID crap pals are pulling a fast one, aren't they? ID has exactly zero to do with the mechanisms of biology or anyt other science. It's not science, it's philosophy.


Gravatarjust saying...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar

good work woody


GravatarThe 'Mr. Science' appellation is, iirc, an artifact of Firesign Theater...

.


GravatarSTDs Running Rampant In Retirement Community

Is it that really bad strain of French Clap they picked up during WW2?

Heh.


GravatarMena is The Thing's extremely lazy sister.
==

When did you meet my sister?


GravatarEasterbrook and his ID crap pals are pulling a fast one, aren't they? ID has exactly zero to do with the mechanisms of biology or anyt other science. It's not science, it's philosophy.
Rage Time | 05.27.06 - 1:47 pm | #


And it's not even philosophy. It's sloppy theology, at best.


Gravatar
Scientists never get blowjobs.


Penile mandibular occurences?


GravatarGregg Easterbrook fries ants with a magnifying glass.


GravatarPenile mandibular occurences?
Ripley
==

We've already had the salt-water taffy discussion.


GravatarEasterbrook and his ID crap pals are pulling a fast one, aren't they? ID has exactly zero to do with the mechanisms of biology or anyt other science. It's not science, it's philosophy.

Shitty philo discussed by stoned sophomores on the ratty couch we had in our dorm room. Summarily rejected by intellectually honest people once they grew up a little bit.


GravatarI suppose it should be "Penile glottal occurences", maybe...


GravatarHow long can you "study" something that says "we is here, so some intelligent intellect musta done it."


GravatarAnd it's not even philosophy. It's sloppy theology, at best.
==

And speaking of lazy. Okay, we won't call it god, we'll just call it....the Designer.


Gravatar Gregg Easterbrook fries ants with a magnifying glass.

I trapped one under a wine glass last night to see what would happen. Still alive this morning. I let it go. Killed the other 300,000 that discovered a soda bottle I left out.


GravatarIntelligent design a sophisticated theory??

Where's the scientific papers with credible peer review? Or evidence? What was the scientific method used to test the theory? How many times has ID been tested scientifically? By whom?

Answer to the questions are: None, zero, or zip.


GravatarWe've already had the salt-water taffy discussion.
mena | 05.27.06 - 1:50 pm | #


Now where did I leave my hood?


GravatarAnd it's not even philosophy. It's sloppy theology, at best.

Shitty philo discussed by stoned sophomores on the ratty couch we had in our dorm room. Summarily rejected by intellectually honest people once they grew up a little bit.



I'm not a shrink and thus is JMO, but I personally think that growing up has a great deal to do with it.


Gravatar How long can you "study" something that says "we is here, so some intelligent intellect musta done it."

Until all the Heathens are convinced or burned at the stake, I suppose...


GravatarI let it go. Killed the other 300,000 that discovered a soda bottle I left out.

If only they had the same sophisticated taste as the first one.


GravatarEasterbrook: Science as marketing concept. Or is it marketing concept as Science?


GravatarIntelligent design a sophisticated theory??

Sure, just like those "Jiffy Sew" shift-dress patterns
my sister used to sew with back in the 1960's. REAL sophisticated.


Gravatar"Mr. Peabody wouldn't even allow Sherman to keep Easterbrook as a science project.
Kathy in Philly"

In da fridge...


GravatarThe 'Mr. Science' appellation is, iirc, an artifact of Firesign Theater...


Is that where it came from?

We had a local Mr. Science in the community where I grew up. He was sexier than can be described, so I married him.

He's still teh hot.


GravatarEasterbrook: Science as marketing concept. Or is it marketing concept as Science?
==


The second one, parsec. That's about it.


GravatarWasn't there a "Mr. Science" tv program in the late fifties/early sixties? Not sure if that is the correct name, but I use to watch him doing all sorts of experiments. Great show.


GravatarGood morning. That was too nauseating to get all the way through.


GravatarMr. Doctor Science to you, bub.


GravatarWasn't there a "Mr. Science" tv program in the late fifties/early sixties? Not sure if that is the correct name, but I use to watch him doing all sorts of experiments. Great show.

Mr Wizard?


Gravatar"We're gonna need another Timmy!"


GravatarNTodd, bless you. Yes, Mr. Wizard.


Gravatarbut I use to watch him doing all sorts of experiments. Great show.


OMG, I remember that too!

Remember this?


GravatarJunior College World Series is in town this week. Gonna' go see some real, entertaining baseball over the next several days. Much better than MLB and the Bonds freahshow.


GravatarID is total crap -- creationism in sheep's clothing -- BLECH! -- AND today's Kalamazoo Gazette has the three essays by high school seniors -- today's topic: "Should evolution be taught in schools as if it were a fact?" Every one of our three little geniuses said NO!

I welcome our East Asian overlords!


GravatarMr. Doctor Science to you, bub.


:D


GravatarI was a poli sci major. I don't usually confuse it with real sciences, though.


GravatarNTodd, bless you. Yes, Mr. Wizard


That's it. Thanks!


GravatarShitty philo discussed by stoned sophomores on the ratty couch we had in our dorm room. Summarily rejected by intellectually honest people once they grew up a little bit.

Suddenly I'm reminded of libertarianism...


GravatarOh, yes -- & the Gore hit piece is also crap -- from a jerk who has been on the payroll denying global warming for years -- already saw a smackdown of it earlier --

TO THE DUCKPIT!

Must go to church -- None & choir rehearsal -- later!


Gravatarit's a rich, absorbing hypothesis--the sort of thing that is fascinating to debate, and might get students excited about biology class to boot.

So would mixing ammonia and bleach.


GravatarNobody tell PZ Myers about this -- he'll blow a fuse.


Gravatar"Should evolution be taught in schools as if it were a fact?"

Notice how the IDers frame the debate: should a theory be presented as fact? Well of course not, duh. It is a theory and is presented as such. Their next step is to introduce their theory. But, it's not a scientific theory and cannot be tested scientifically.


GravatarI recall Mr. Wizard setting fire to table sugar mixed with something. It was impressive!


GravatarSuddenly I'm reminded of libertarianism...

You'd understand if you ate more tofu.


GravatarRage Time, evidently NTodd is somewhat younger than us, so he still has a memory. But I'm perplexed as to how he knows about Mr. Wizard in the first place.


GravatarSuddenly I'm reminded of libertarianism...

Ayn Rand was an American HERO!!!


GravatarI was a poli sci major. I don't usually confuse it with real sciences, though.

Me, too. I had an adviser tell me once that Poli Sci was a great degree for entering the world of burger flipping.

I love burgers.


GravatarNotice how the IDers frame the debate: should a theory be presented as fact? Well of course not, duh. It is a theory and is presented as such. Their next step is to introduce their theory. But, it's not a scientific theory and cannot be tested scientifically.

If it has to be tested, it must not be right.

ID doesn't have to be tested.

Therefore, ID is right.

QED


Gravatari beleive in troglodytes.

it's true they're all around us.


GravatarSo would mixing ammonia and bleach.

Or oil and pool shock. No, that's not a good idea on second thought.


GravatarThat Howdy Doody site's pretty nice.


Gravatar I recall Mr. Wizard setting fire to table sugar mixed with something. It was impressive!

Was it Xtian babies? Damn science! Damn it!!!


GravatarYour Tax Dollars ensure Big Oil's Future


GravatarHey you kids, get off my lemma!
And Get a theorim!

The formulae they listen to!
It's all Noyes!


GravatarBut I'm perplexed as to how he knows about Mr. Wizard in the first place.

Occasionally some tv stations have gotten the footage of the Mr. Wizard shows and have ran them.


GravatarI'm perplexed as to how he knows about Mr. Wizard in the first place.

He was around a long time. I saw him when he was old.

And I guess nobody gets my "Timmy" ref...


GravatarThe NeoCon Empire


GravatarID doesn't have to be tested.

Therefore, ID is right.


Crap, now I get it. So simple it plum evaded me.


GravatarOl' Bush is going to have to call Iraq's PM very soon...


GravatarCrap, now I get it. So simple it plum evaded me.

Stick with me and I'll teach you all the secrets of the cosmos...


GravatarYes, Xian Babies was it! Crispy Xian Babies!


GravatarAyn Rand was an American HERO!!!
Ripley | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 2:04 pm | #


Excuse me, that's "HEROIN"!


GravatarI love burgers.

I'm too clumsy for that. But I can ask: Would you like fries with that?


Gravatar"Dinosaurs"? That is what my kids opine, after I guessed it had to do with Fairly Oddparents.


GravatarAnd I guess nobody gets my "Timmy" ref...


Lassie?


Thanks for all the great conversation batsies. I have to take someone to the airport, so I'm outta here. Later.


Gravatarremember when Bill Nye, Science Guy, was on Olbermann a few months to crush Intelligent design? That was good
plum p


It was, but I didn't enjoy it because I've met him and my impression was that he is a big, bow-tied arrogant cock.


GravatarExcuse me, that's "HEROIN"!

Yes, the Opiate of the Fucking Selfish Idiotarian.


GravatarBut I'm perplexed as to how he knows about Mr. Wizard in the first place.
mer

i think you're think'n of the cartoon mr. wizard vs. the bill nye the science guy like mr. wizard.

either way i love wizards, and troglodytes. jebus, not so much, he let me down. no divine power would have ever let fuckwit secure the reigns of power in his name.


GravatarLassie's the only thing I can come up with too.


Gravatar
It was, but I didn't enjoy it because I've met him and my impression was that he is a big, bow-tied arrogant cock.


You're thinking of Tucker Carlson, Bow-tied Arrogant Cock Guy.


GravatarAnd speaking of lazy. Okay, we won't call it god, we'll just call it....the Designer.
mena


Actually, I think he calls himself "The Architect."

Some old white bearded guy in a white room with a really cool home theater setup.

I saw it in a movie, so I know it's true.


Gravatar "Dinosaurs"? That is what my kids opine, after I guessed it had to do with Fairly Oddparents.

Yes!

One of my favorite, short-lived TV shows. Fucking brill commentary. The next best bit: "What Sexual Harris Meant" after the Anita Hill stuff.


GravatarSigh. My lighthearted flippancy has led a troll to accuse me of being a Shrill Dem on the thread below.

I am deeply wounded!


Gravatar Sigh. My lighthearted flippancy has led a troll to accuse me of being a Shrill Dem on the thread below.

[pats shoulder]

There, there.


GravatarWell, science doesn't believe Pat Robertson can leg press 2000 lbs.

And still have his eyeballs. Or lack legs the thickness of sequoias.

But I believe. So it must be true. Magic health shakes rule!


Gravatar" Intelligent-design thinking does not propound any specific faith or even say that the higher power is divine. It simply holds that there must be an unseen intellect imbedded in the cosmos."

Well, Easterbrook, if such an 'intellect' is embedded in the cosmos, it must be embedded in all of us as well. It is not a 'higher power,' but rather the natural effects of the utterly chaotic interconnectivity of all the forces happening around and through us, all the time.

To attribute that to a 'higher power' is therefore a simplistic and childish excuse that negates and demeans OUR OWN POWER as intelligent human beings, who are constantly in the process of creating and defining our own destinies, through the immutable law of cause and effect.

Easterbrook, your assertions demean us all. Every one of us is divine, just as the cosmos itself is.


GravatarFor really exciting scientific discussion see CNN:
Which came first?

The chicken 52% 4960 votes

The egg 48% 4526 votes
Total: 9486 votes


GravatarI saw it in a movie, so I know it's true.

How come the Da Vinci Code protesters didn't protest that one. They had Meri, Merry, Meravirgins in that one too. Or in one of dem.


GravatarI am deeply wounded!
rorschach


Have a magic health shake. Pretty soon, you'll be leg pressing trucks, and the trolls will leave you alone.


GravatarSigh. My lighthearted flippancy has led a troll to accuse me of being a Shrill Dem on the thread below.

I am deeply wounded!

rorschach
Naw, don't stop, that guy had the stink of libertarianism about him.


GravatarMan, I had totally forgotten that series existed, until Munchkins just brought it all back. #1 sez a dealing-with-drugs ep ended with, "Hi, I'm Robbie Sinclair. I play Robbie Sinclair on the hit TV show 'Dinosaurs.'" Goes on about how you shouldn't do drugs, and ends with, "So please. Say no to drugs and do your part to end preachy sitcom endings like this."


GravatarA one sentence ID response:
Why limit God tom something you can imagine?


Gravatar Sigh. My lighthearted flippancy has led a troll to accuse me of being a Shrill Dem on the thread below.

I am deeply wounded!


I prefer to think of you as a Thrill Dem. Of course, my opinion and $6 will get you a big, fat cup of FuckOffTroll-achino with Madagascar cinnamon and a biscotti...


GravatarTo attribute that to a 'higher power' is therefore a simplistic and childish excuse that negates and demeans OUR OWN POWER as intelligent human beings, who are constantly in the process of creating and defining our own destinies, through the immutable law of cause and effect.

Not to mention, as you say, it's simply a self-contradictory assertion that is therefor meaningless.

Ain't science cool?


GravatarEasterbrook and his ID crap pals are pulling a fast one, aren't they? ID has exactly zero to do with the mechanisms of biology or anyt other science. It's not science, it's philosophy.
Rage Time


I suspect Easterbrook gets paid good money to try and debunk anything his paymasters find discomforting. It's a good gig for him.


GravatarRor, wash your hands after you finish playing with those things.

Did you ever manage to go to bed last night?

(God, now the kids are going on at LENGTH about Dinosaurs.)


GravatarSome old white bearded guy in a white room with a really cool home theater setup.
==

What else? God no doubt drives a hummer.


Gravatar
What else? God no doubt drives a hummer.


Honk if you love me!!


GravatarWhat else? God no doubt drives a hummer.
mena


"Da Vinci Code II: The White House
Years"


Oh, wait, you said drives a hummer.

My bad.


GravatarHonk if you love me!!
==

Deities do it deeper!


GravatarHonk if you love me!!


GravatarFrom MoDo's column:
While it was nice to hear President Bush admit he had made mistakes, he was talking mostly about mistakes of tone. Saying he wanted Osama bin Laden "dead or alive" would have been O.K. if he had acted on it, rather than letting Osama go at Tora Bora and diverting the Army to Iraq. At his news conference with a tired-looking Tony Blair, Mr. Bush seemed chastened by Iraq, at least. But he continued to have the same hallucination about how to get out: turning things over to the Iraqi security forces after achieving total victory over insurgents and terrorists.

I wish the press or anybody else for that matter would quit saying that Comandante Cuckoo Bananas was admitting to mistakes or being regretful for his astoundingly idiotic statements.
What he said was that he was "misunderstood".
He didn't say that he regretted saying any of those things or that he was mistaken.
It was the reporter who asked him the question that mentioned the words "regret" and "mistake".


GravatarThere, there.
NTodd, Tiresome | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 2:13 pm | #


Thank you, tiresome one.

And thank you all.

Somehow, I will soldier on!


GravatarWhat a bloody wanker.


GravatarRor, wash your hands after you finish playing with those things.

Did you ever manage to go to bed last night?


Good advice.

And, no.


GravatarAfternoon all. So what's Dr. Emilio Lizardo doing these days?


GravatarUm, Slate, do you really have such contempt for your readers that you publish Gregg Easterbrook under the title "Ask Mr. Science"?

yes


GravatarI am deeply wounded!
rorschach


Not worry, we still love ya no matter what the silly troll says.


GravatarSomehow, I will soldier on! -rorschach

Ick. Just took a look downstairs and that one looks a bit too runny for me.

Oh dear, the cat's eaten it.


GravatarSpeaking as both a scientist and a doctor, I would like to say: George W. Bush is a wanker.

Thank you.


Gravatarrorschach - I just went and looked. What ql said.


Gravatar"It was, but I didn't enjoy it because I've met him and my impression was that he is a big, bow-tied arrogant cock.
Stinky"

Bill Nye got himself seduced and corrupted by the media. There is a magnificent introspective humility that is absolutely essential to the whole enterprise of authentic science, and Nye never got that, not even close.

I turn off my teevee in protest...


Gravatarslate is straight up awful, wait, it was awful 3 yrs ago and i bailed on it. hadnt looked at it since this link -and wow, i cannot belive how much worse its gotten. easterbrook and kaus? - intelligent design just cannot be true based solely on the existance of those two colossal tools and their continued ability to get in print


GravatarIt's not science, it's philosophy.
Rage Time

it's phillip johnson's bullshit wedge strategy.

pure freak'n politics.

i'm perfectly willing to accept there may be a god, he/she might even be intelligent, but that's not who they are pandering to.

come to think of it phillip johnson was an architect,,, hmm...


GravatarI am deeply wounded!
rorschach

Not worry, we still love ya no matter what the silly troll says.
ql in ny | 05.27.06 - 2:23 pm | #


Thank you, sweetheart.

JeffCO--yes, it is runny. Good adjective.


Gravatar"The stupid are rewarded these days...
George, roasted"

Ya mean, the Reverse Darwin Effect, that the least capable rise to the top? Got that right, George!


GravatarWell, since I'm waiting for the next round of beers to cool down in the fridge - I'm off to take a shower and see a man about a bike.

Have a great Saturday, kids!


GravatarI wish the press or anybody else for that matter would quit saying that Comandante Cuckoo Bananas was admitting to mistakes or being regretful for his astoundingly idiotic statements.

but, that would mean forfeiting her coveted spot at the conventional wisdom bar -- and then where would modo go to display those snazzy red fuckme heels.


GravatarThe Universe is the product of perfect competition and free markets.


Gravatarrorschach - I just went and looked. What ql said.
mena | 05.27.06 - 2:24 pm | #


Well, I've kept him down there anyway. I've taken one for the team.


GravatarI've taken one for the team.

That was honorable. Please take a shower now. You've got troll splooge all over yourself.


GravatarI've taken one for the team.

That was honorable. Please take a shower now. You've got troll splooge all over yourself.


GravatarWe got Stumpy Pepys again

KABUL (Reuters) - U.S.-led troops in Afghanistan killed five Taliban insurgents, including some key leaders, in an attack on a training facility, the U.S. military said on Saturday.

The military did not identify those killed during Friday night's strike, the latest in a mounting wave of violence, which was launched in the village of Qala Sak of southern Helmand province, near the border with Pakistan.

``Among those killed were key senior leaders of the Taliban network who have conducted attacks against coalition and Afghan forces, Afghan officials and civilians,'' the military said in a statement.


GravatarOT-from the last thread

Someone mentioned the letter Jeb Bush sent to the Swift Boat Liars thanking them for doing their dirty deeds, and how scuzzy the Bush family really is. The veneer of gentility is real thin, especially on Bar's side. In 1920 her parents lived in a rented apartment in the Bronx. Many of their neighbors were immigrants whose native language wasn't English. Her parents were both born in Ohio.

From the 1920 Census:
Census Image
1920 > NEW YORK > BRONX > BRONX
Series: T625 Roll: 1142 Page: 115
Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace
PIERCE MARVIN ------ 26 --M --W----- OH
PIERCE PAULINE ------23---F --W ---OH

2268 Walton Ave. Bronx, NY

Not that there's anything wrong with the Bronx. But old money it ain't.

Did Kitty Kelley's book on the Bush family cover any of Barbara's family history? I bet there're a few good stories to be discovered.


GravatarSaw a bumper sticker the other day. A Jesus fish eating a Darwin fish with the caption: Survival of the forgiven.

Thought it presumed a little much.


GravatarThe Peter Principle was that people rise to the level of their incompetence. The W Principle would posit that certain people are blasted right on through that level to remarkably disasterous levels of failure by others to cover for their own larceny.


GravatarLong NYT piece on how the Swift Boat fight goes on.


GravatarI know no one here gives a shit, but the ship I was supposed to be travelling on just left the dock in Norway and I'm still in the fucking USA.


GravatarThat was honorable. Please take a shower now. You've got troll splooge all over yourself.
Doug, | 05.27.06 - 2:30 pm | #


Ew. I think I'll drench myself with bleach.


GravatarI'm still in the fucking USA.

What happened?


GravatarAnd, no.

Cripes. I slept 'til past 1PM today. And you HAVE certainly got a wanker by the tail down there, I went and peeked.

(When did "liquified" become an acceptable variant spelling? Just the name rubs me exactly the wrong way.)


GravatarI think others have pointed this out (haven't gone through all comments), but I believe "Ask Mr. Science" is the headline, and refers to Gore. The "slug" is Culturebox, a section that is written by various people. But just reading the first graf is annoying enough--I can't read any further. In fact, the subhed about "moral failures" is irritating, too. Someone, it may have been Atrios, once described a lot of Easterbrook's stuff as sounding like a pretty smart college freshman who's simultaneously discovered "ideas" (kicking shit back and forth, etc.) and pot.


GravatarIn 1920 her parents lived in a rented apartment in the Bronx.

Frankly thats to their credit. Its the fucking aristocratic bastards who have lived as parasites for generations that are the problem.


Gravatar"i'm perfectly willing to accept there may be a god, he/she might even be intelligent, but that's not who they are pandering to."

Don't allow them to belittle your own intelligence. Look, if your consciousness is the center of your own universe, then you must be God. We all just forgot how to act in a Godlike way, and reap the benefits of good fortune, wisdom and courage as a consequence.

My Great Teacher Nichiren says, "A Buddha is known in this world by his behavior as a human being."


GravatarHow soon before they claim the Earth really is the center of the Solar system?


GravatarGod's hand is present everywhere in the natural world and universe.
Except economics and free markets, which operates through the invisible hand.


GravatarAfternoon, rational people. I see the adherents of ID have another spokesperson.

What a maroon.


GravatarSaw a bumper sticker the other day. A Jesus fish eating a Darwin fish with the caption: Survival of the forgiven.

What you need are some bumper stickers to share with them that say And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.


GravatarWhat happened?

it rained in Chicago and the fucking airlines don't give a shit whether their passengers ever arrive at their destinations.


GravatarOld Man - who,what,why?


GravatarSo Mr. QL's mom passed on a big baggie full of stamps that I was going to give to a friend at work whose husband collects stamps. I just googled one set and it is on sale $465. Shit, guess I can't get rid of them.


GravatarSlate wankery this week:

Easterbrook bashes Gore
Kaus bashes Clintons
Shafer sez Boehlert wrong because Dem basing only on cable news
Weisberg sez Hillary's iPod list fake
Dickerson sez Gore can't run because of earth tones


Gravatar"Except economics and free markets, which operates through the invisible hand."

jack, keep your hand jobs to yourself.


GravatarCripes. I slept 'til past 1PM today. And you HAVE certainly got a wanker by the tail down there, I went and peeked.

(When did "liquified" become an acceptable variant spelling? Just the name rubs me exactly the wrong way.)
Silleigh


Yeah, he is quite the wank. It's rather fun watching him squirm, though. And it's on an old thread, so I'm not annoying anybody.

And I'm tired but not sleepy, after being awake about 30 hours... At this point, the question is take a nap? or stay up and go to bed at a reasonable hour?


GravatarSaw a bumper sticker the other day. A Jesus fish eating a Darwin fish with the caption: Survival of the forgiven.

I sure would like to get me a bumper sticker from the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.


GravatarI just googled one set and it is on sale $465.
==

Of course there's a market for them, it just never occurred to me. Are there dealers?


Gravatar"A Jesus fish eating a Darwin fish with the caption: Survival of the forgiven."

I'd like to put a bumper sticker beneath one of those saying " You are what you eat"


GravatarSlate wankery this week:


Wonderful summary!


GravatarIts the fucking aristocratic bastards who have lived as parasites for generations that are the problem.

Agreed, Old Man. But Bar likes to think she's from the old money, upper class part of society. She's not. Her parents may have been wonderful, normal people who worked for a living.

Bar is no better than anyone else, but she doesn't know that.


GravatarAt this point, the question is take a nap? or stay up and go to bed at a reasonable hour?

Are you able to nap for a half hour or two?


GravatarDon't allow them to belittle your own intelligence. Look, if your consciousness is the center of your own universe, then you must be God. We all just forgot how to act in a Godlike way, and reap the benefits of good fortune, wisdom and courage as a consequence.

well, this much i do know. the tao that can be spoken of, is not the true tao.

now off to see who Nichiren is. 'cause you know, in the future Google will be God.


GravatarThe invisible hand juggles my balls.


GravatarI sure would like to get me a bumper sticker from the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I've seen a FSM "fish" on a car here.


Gravatar"A Jesus fish eating a Darwin fish with the caption: Survival of the forgiven."

I'd like to put a bumper sticker beneath one of those saying " You are what you eat"
==


Nice! You have seen, I take it, the legged Darwinfish eating the same one?


Gravatarmena, I have no idea. Her husband was always wheeling and dealing and never seemingly getting anywhere. She left him about ten years. She started losing it about them and seemed to think they belonged to Mr. QL. Only problem is Mr. QL never collected stamps and left home in 1963 and these are from the 1970s.

I guess I will have to share the proceeds with sil, who is a nice person. She would do the same.


GravatarBar is no better than anyone else, but she doesn't know that.
TheOtherWA
==

That's incredibly generous. She's considerably worse than most.


GravatarI'd like to put a bumper sticker beneath one of those saying " You are what you eat"

you are NOT 'what you eat.'

you are what you don't excrete...
.


GravatarThe system is broken.


GravatarThe world might be a better place if the Darwin fish and Jesus fish would perform oral sex on each other. Need a caption though.


Gravatar• Easterbrook = wanker

Newly certified as such. Check.

Well, science doesn't believe Pat Robertson can leg press 2000 lbs.
And still have his eyeballs. Or lack legs the thickness of sequoias.


Rmj, fax this to Rockefeller Center ASAP. It conjured up the image of a Robert Smigel cartoon somehow incorporating Robertson's boasts about his physical exploits. The possibilities are endless-- remember, you heard it here first.

If you submit it in time, be sure to save the fax confirmation sheet. You should at least be entitled to a finder's fee of some sort, if not royalties. And I'd be pleased to accept any co-credit or sharing of the proceeds.


GravatarThe world might be a better place if the Darwin fish and Jesus fish would perform oral sex on each other. Need a caption though.

A good artist should be able to put them in a "69" configuration, that would be clear enough without any caption.


GravatarAre you able to nap for a half hour or two?
Doug, | 05.27.06 - 2:40 pm | #


I have the time, but not the sleepiness, at the moment...

A bumper sticker I enjoy: "In case of the Rapture, can I have your car?"


GravatarCletus, venganza.org has a CafePress site for FSM stickers 'n stuff, and there are places for car emblems too.
http://www.cafepress.com/venganza
and
http://evolvefish.com/fish/fsm.html
and
http://www.rof.com/category_s/5.htm


Gravatar"the legged Darwinfish eating the same one"

NO! I had the rear panel replaced last year with my old fishy ans need to get an new one. Gotta figure how to get it here thru international post. Thanks for the tip!


GravatarThat's incredibly generous. She's considerably worse than most.
mena


It's Saturday and I'm in a good mood.


Gravatarreal ask mr science (you know, actual scientists who blog as a sidelight):

http://scienceblogs.com/

Slate has always been awful (offal), just even worse without Kinsey.

-Steve


GravatarI guess I will have to share the proceeds with sil, who is a nice person. She would do the same.
ql in ny
==

And you are considerably better than many.


GravatarA bumper sticker I enjoy: "In case of the Rapture, can I have your car?"

I always liked that one too.


GravatarI guess I will have to share the proceeds with sil, who is a nice person.

People usually shorten my nym to "Sill," but what a nice thought!


Gravatar The system is broken.
jack | 05.27.06 - 2:43 pm | #


Jack is broken.


GravatarSilleigh, aka Furiousleigh

Gracias!


GravatarOnly rich folks have underground swimming pools.


Gravatar"Sill," but what a nice thought!
Silleigh


I'm nice, but not that nice.


Gravatarevening moonbats


GravatarOnly rich folks have underground swimming pools.

How do they get to them?


GravatarIt's Saturday and I'm in a good mood.
TheOtherWA
==

Carry on then.


rorschach - my favorite once upon a time: Use an Accordion, Go to Jail. But these days: Jesus is Coming. Look Busy. Although I did have a "Visualize Grilled Cheese" one in my kithen window for years. I never put anything on the car.


Gravataryou are NOT 'what you eat.'

you are what you don't excrete...
.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka... - 2:43 pm


Master, I have truly met the Buddha on the road, and in His serene munificence he taught me the koan quoted above.


Gravatar" But most kids won't know the idea unless they are taught it, and in the aftermath of the Kansas votes, pro-evolution dogma continues to suggest that any alternative to natural selection must be kept quiet."

Why don't we just call this for what it really is, the reasonable and just triumph of Common Sense?


Gravatarquite a weak episode of Doctor Who this week.


GravatarI assumed that "Ask Mr. Science" was a reference to Gore.


GravatarThe system is broken.
jack | 05.27.06 - 2:43 pm | #

Jack is broken.
NTodd, Tiresome | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 2:50 pm | #


Therefore, jack is the system?

Only rich folks have underground swimming pools.


There is water at the bottom of the ocean!


GravatarSilleigh, aka Furiousleigh,

Thanks for the fishy links! I remember when I bought the one for my car a number of years ago, I was talking with the lady and I said I wish they sold the fish feet separately so I could go save those ones that had yet evloved.

Seems she acted on that cause you can buy the feet and save those unfortunate ones!


GravatarOK class, the earth is only 6000 years old and fossils were put here to tempt true believers. Lets discuss.


GravatarOT: Bank Holidays: The break with tradition

Britain has been enjoying - and loathing - bank holiday weekends since a 19th-century financier established them for the sake of the nation. Shame he didn't sort out the weather... Paul Vallely reports


The weather forecast is for rain, blustery winds, chilly temperatures, grey skies and even hail and snow. There will be major repairs to the rail network, with trains from Euston not getting further than Watford Junction and Hemel Hempstead before passengers have to transfer to buses. There are roadworks on the M25, M1 and M5. It must be a bank holiday weekend.

Come on, you know you enjoy it. After all, it gives us something to complain about - and moaning is as much part of the British bank holiday as the rest of it. Anyway, no one can accuse us of a lack of imagination. The 1950s experience of sitting on the beach, with a bucket and spade, discovering why sandwiches were so named, is honoured more now in the breach than the observance. Those old days of overheating engines, shrieking children, irritated spouses and unmoving caravan-infested traffic jams, have given way to a new set of bank holiday clichés.


Gravatarorschach - my favorite once upon a time: Use an Accordion, Go to Jail. But these days: Jesus is Coming. Look Busy. Although I did have a "Visualize Grilled Cheese" one in my kithen window for years. I never put anything on the car.
mena | 05.27.06 - 2:53 pm | #


On my poor deceased car is the bumper sticker "Bush is a Punk Ass Chump."

I used to work on the capitol grounds, and it was ripped off several times, but I kept replacing it.


GravatarBut most kids won't know the idea unless they are taught it, and in the aftermath of the Kansas votes, pro-evolution dogma continues to suggest that any alternative to natural selection must be kept quiet

Shorter wanker: "I don't have a clue about how scince operates".


GravatarGood evening, Moonbootica.


Gravatarplantsman, heya


GravatarThere are your garden variety wankers, and then there's the Easterbrook asshat.

Slate misses Kinsley something fierce.


GravatarOnly rich folks have underground swimming pools.

How do they get to them?


Elaborate tunnel systems.

Therefore, jack is the system?

Jack is, in fact, an elaborate tunnel system.


GravatarOn my poor deceased car is the bumper sticker "Bush is a Punk Ass Chump."
==

Nice!


Gravatar"A good artist should be able to put them in a "69" configuration, that would be clear enough without any caption.
Doug,"

Know what the square root of 69 is?
Eight something...


GravatarOK class, the earth is only 6000 years old and fossils were put here to tempt true believers. Lets discuss.
hadenough | 05.27.06 - 2:56 pm | #


I've got a t-shirt with the Jesus fish and the Darwin legged fish on it. Beneath them, it reads, "Fine. I evolved and you didn't."


Gravatar There are your garden variety wankers, and then there's the Easterbrook asshat.

You can call in exterminators to get the wankers out of your garden using environmentally chemicals now.


Gravatar There are your garden variety wankers, and then there's the Easterbrook asshat.

You can call in exterminators to get the wankers out of your garden using environmentally chemicals now.


Gravatar"A good artist should be able to put them in a "69" configuration, that would be clear enough without any caption.
Doug,"
===

And there you have the symbol for Pisces. Anything else i can do fer ya?


GravatarYou can call in exterminators to get the wankers out of your garden using environmentally chemicals now.
==

They use Ortho WankBeGon!™.


GravatarI just have to share one of the troll posts from below.

It is a work of sheer genius:

I believe that the snarkiness here is quite indicative of the refugees from Stonewall. thank you all for your endearments, thank you even more for your love and honor. I bid you all adieu, and a doo, and a doo doo too on your lovely little gloved fists!
liquified viscera | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 2:58 pm | #


GravatarMaybe it's time for some Saturday Blog Blogging.


GravatarKunztler needs to add clown science to his Nation of Overfed Clowns description.


GravatarAnd there you have the symbol for Pisces. Anything else i can do fer ya?

A piece of chocolate cake would be nice.


GravatarMy pleasure, Cletus and Anon. I'm looking for a nice oval FSM sticker to go opposite the Stewie decal Fella found for my rear windshield.

The shape of Stewie's head has much in common with the Fishy version of the FSM logo.


GravatarIdiotic Design isn't science.

At least not to intelligent, sane people.


GravatarAssrocket

The subject heading was: "You bunch of wankers." That jumped out at me; to my knowledge, the only people who use the word "wanker" (Is it a word? Beats me.) are left-wing bloggers and their commenters. This was the text of the email:


GravatarI believe that the snarkiness here is quite indicative of the refugees from Stonewall. thank you all for your endearments, thank you even more for your love and honor. I bid you all adieu, and a doo, and a doo doo too on your lovely little gloved fists!
liquified viscera


Oh, that one.

What an ignorant, condescending piece of ca ca!


GravatarMoonboo, I haven't dragged my non-cable TV with rabbit ear antenna cart out of the ditch yet, so I don't have access to "Dr. Who" or any of the shows discussed here.

But you know how it is-- you've gotta forgive the occasional clunker as long as it doesn't degenerate into a trend.

My sister is a real "Sopranos" fan, and she was annoyed with a recent episode that the esteemed James Wolcott panned for the same reasons.

When there's a certain abundance of material, one can afford to be tolerant about substandard stuff. Like when the Beatles were being pumped so hard to make new records that there were always a few tracks that were competent but hardly inspired.

My rule of thumb is that one bad show is generally benign; consecutive bad shows suggest malignancy.


GravatarA piece of chocolate cake would be nice.
Doug,
==


And all I've got are these eclairs....


GravatarI believe that the snarkiness here is quite indicative of the refugees from Stonewall. thank you all for your endearments, thank you even more for your love and honor. I bid you all adieu, and a doo, and a doo doo too on your lovely little gloved fists!

Snarkiness is dad fuckers!


Gravatar"the refugees from Stonewall"


Cuz all liberals are homos and lesbos, ya know!

Homophobic much?


GravatarAnd all I've got are these eclairs....

[scootches closer to mena]


GravatarYeah, lv was quite a piece of work. One of those trolls who use big words without knowing what they mean.


Gravatarthe only people who use the word "wanker" (Is it a word? Beats me.)



Well, wingers like Assrocket never get out of their basements, much less out of the country.

I guess he doesn't know any Brits.

They's furriners, you know.


GravatarSome fast-and-dirty impressions of Chimpy's poo-flinging at West Point's commencement ceremony today.

Needless to say, I wasn't very pleased with it.


GravatarNTodd - you better check and see if scootching is allowed. You never know these days.


GravatarLittle Brøther thats true

Buffy and Angel were the same, every season there would be one or two clunkers but did not take away from the overall quality of the show.


GravatarOld Man, what's plan b? Since you couldn't get to the ship thanks to the airline do you reschedule? Get a refund?

It really sucks your big trip was screwed up by the weather.


GravatarBobo's world!

Will this scenario become commonplace, I wonder. Gunfights over gasoline?

Deputies arrested a store owner accused of shooting out two tires on a customer's vehicle after the customer said he had no money to pay for gasoline, spokesman Jason Ard of the Livingston Parish Sheriffs Office said Thursday.


GravatarThey's furriners, you know.

and they can't run an airline worth shit.


GravatarDeacon helped Assrocket understand what wanker means -- possibly with a demonstration

The word "wanker" is also big among English soccer fans, as in "Harry Kewell is a wanker." The highly sanitized translation is "Harry Kewell is worse than useless."


Gravatarthe refugees from Stonewall
Aggressive, in your face, gays.


GravatarNTodd - you better check and see if scootching is allowed. You never know these days.
mena | 05.27.06 - 3:07 pm | #


No scootching!


GravatarScootching is always allowed. And flirting. An being fucking uncivil to wankers.


GravatarIn case you missed it:

When Tennessee law enforcement officials showed up at the home of Lester Siler, who they suspected of drug use, they asked Lester's wife and son to leave. They didn't know that Lester's wife had turned on a tape recorder in the kitchen. When Lester exercised his constitutional right not to sign a consent to search his house, these officers spent the next two hours torturing him. They beat him with bats and guns, held loaded guns to his head, threatened to shoot him, dunked his head in the toilet, burned him with lighters, attached his testicles to a battery charger, threatened to cut off his fingers, and threatened to "go get" his wife and take his child away from him. Then they arrested him for "evading arrest". It wasn't until the wife's recording made it to the FBI that all hell broke loose. And go figure, even though these officers have been convicted in federal court, not one national media outlet gave this story the coverage it deserved. But that's okay. At the time, reporters were busy decrying the immorality of Janet Jackson's Superbowl nipple!
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/...7.php? gonnabarf


GravatarAggressive, in your face, gays.
jack | 05.27.06 - 3:08 pm | #


Keep your fantasies to yourself.


GravatarOT: In Burma, the ancient teak forests are being ripped apart. In Chelsea, the banned wood is sold at the UK's top flower show

Exhibitors at Britain's biggest garden show, the Chelsea Flower Show, are selling hardwood from the unprotected rainforests of Asia, a trade that has been condemned by one of the country's leading environmental bodies.

Secret tape-recordings made during an undercover investigation by Greenpeace and The Independent found sales staff taking orders for teak garden furniture logged in Burma, whose brutal military regime is condemned globally. One trader said a teak table tucked at the back of his stand - behind more regular timber - had come from Burma because of "corruption". To the outrage of environmental groups, the Burmese military junta allows widespread logging of endangered rainforest.

The organiser of the show, the Royal Horticultural Society, backs the certification of timber to ensure garden tables and chairs on sale there are environmentally friendly and meet standards on child labour and human rights.


Gravatar Old Man, what's plan b? Since you couldn't get to the ship thanks to the airline do you reschedule? Get a refund?

No refund for the main trip. I can some money back for hotel bookings, a train ride and at least the London->Oslo & back flights, but the rest of the money I spent is gone. So no trip at all. $2,500 to spend a night sleeping on a bench in O'Hare.

To add insult to injury when I finally got on a flight home yesterday afternoon it turned around and landed back at Chicago after 15 minutes or so in the air.


GravatarTroutski,

That's terrible -- and it's the first time I've ever heard of it.


GravatarYeah, lv was quite a piece of work. One of those trolls who use big words without knowing what they mean.
rorschach

I think we drove it off though. I looked at its blog, crack pot libertarian who's decided that everything the Bush's have done is the Democrats' fault.


GravatarOld Man, what's plan b?

It's an emergency contraception method. But that's not important right now.

(sorry, very sorry, couldn't resist)


GravatarOld Man,

I would write the chairman of the company and see if they won't do better by you. That's just rotten.


GravatarDeacon helped Assrocket understand what wanker means -- possibly with a demonstration

Ah, yes, not-not-Assrocket the Everton fan. The '[name here] is a wanker, is a wanker' should be sung to the first line of the Hallelujah chorus. Thus:

'Hinderaker
is a wanker
is a wanker'

Who said that football fans were underbred?


GravatarThe stupid are rewarded these days...
George, roasted


See: Bush, George W.


GravatarWolcott:

Given how most of the Beltway elite have bowed and scraped like eunuchs for most of Bush’s presidency, this aphrodisiac attack of Clinton arousal (prurience topped with prissy indignation) must be giving them a nice nostalgic nineties feeling; such days those were, when they could roll around in the gutter with Laura Ingraham and Barbara Olsen and mount their moral high horse at the same time, no easy trick. Yet even I am surprised to spot James Warren of the Chicago Tribune among the panty raiders. He acts so deadpan and dyspeptic on TV—who knew that he too had a yodeling libido yearning for release?


Gravatarjack's existence provides irrefutable evidence that intelligent design is false.


Gravatar$2,500 to spend a night sleeping on a bench in O'Hare.

Uh, that ain't right!


Gravatar yodeling libido yearning for release?


Damn. I'd chew off my left arm to be able to write like that.


GravatarTroutski - good god.


GravatarThey beat him with bats and guns, held loaded guns to his head, threatened to shoot him, dunked his head in the toilet, burned him with lighters, attached his testicles to a battery charger

Jesus H Christ on a jumped up sidecar. What fucking country are we living in.


GravatarI think we drove it off though. I looked at its blog, crack pot libertarian who's decided that everything the Bush's have done is the Democrats' fault.
DemByDefault | 05.27.06 - 3:12 pm | #


I didn't have the stomach to go over there.

But what you report is hardly surprising.

A more incoherent and patronizing troll I've not seen in some time.


GravatarSome fast-and-dirty impressions of Chimpy's poo-flinging at West Point's commencement ceremony today.

Needless to say, I wasn't very pleased with it.
jurassicpork |


I can't believe he had the stones to go to a military school on Memorial Day weekend.


GravatarTo add insult to injury when I finally got on a flight home yesterday afternoon it turned around and landed back at Chicago after 15 minutes or so in the air.
The Old Man From Scene 24
==

That stinks.


Gravatarto my knowledge, the only people who use the word "wanker"--

Yes, but to your knowledge, Assrocket, Bush is an unrecognised genius. Wanker.


GravatarA more incoherent and patronizing troll I've not seen in some time.
rorschach |

lv was a real asshole.

Bottom line.


GravatarOT: Concern over Labour cash gifts from nuclear industry

Labour has received thousands of pounds in donations from energy companies and lobbying firms linked to the nuclear industry. The cash donations give the pro-nuclear lobby access to decision makers, campaigners for the environment warned.

Details published by the Electoral Commission showed that the money from nuclear interests flooded in as the government prepared for a review of long-term energy needs. The review is due to be published in July, but Tony Blair gave a strong indication of its outcome earlier this month, when he told the CBI that nuclear power was "back on the agenda with a vengeance".

Donors included EDF Energy, which has 58 reactors across Europe. It gave Labour £6,000 last September. In the same month, Labour received £19,500 from the lobbying firm Weber Shadwick, whose clients include British Nuclear Fuels.


GravatarJames Warren is better than most. I remember a pang of disappointment the first time I saw him on the Tweety Show. I think someone called him on it, and he said he was under pressure from ChiTrib editors who were trying to push the paper to 'national' status.


GravatarOK to torture suspected insurgents?
Then ok to torture suspected drug dealers.

After all if it saves lives ...


Fuckers.


Gravatarjack's existence provides irrefutable evidence that intelligent design is false.
Richard

Parents threw away the baby.

Kept the afterbirth.

Just like Poppy and Bar did.


GravatarOK class, the earth is only 6000 years old and fossils were put here to tempt true believers. Lets discuss.
hadenough

you know that they really say this.

my whacko brother upon hearing that my daughter had a darwin fish on her car exclaimed "you don't allow that, do you?" what an asshole.

and of course they have found just that transitional fossil, but will this bear any weight? leg pressed 2000 pounds my ass.


Gravatarmonica - wolcott just keeps hammering nails down. "Prurience topped with prissy indignation." is just about perfect.


GravatarOK to torture suspected insurgents?
Then ok to torture suspected drug dealers.

and drug dealers support Terra-ism. Christ. At least Ashcroft is retired. Not that things have gotten any better, but at least Ashcroft is gone.


GravatarOld Man, that's terrible! $2,500 to spend a night sleeping on a bench in O'Hare. OUCH.

Silleigh, I knew someone was going to catch that the second I hit "publish."


GravatarThey beat him with bats and guns, held loaded guns to his head, threatened to shoot him, dunked his head in the toilet, burned him with lighters, attached his testicles to a battery charger
Character building.


Gravatar"Can't you find a "Mr. Science" who doesn't think science="some shit we talked about drunk while I was getting my political science and journalism degrees."

What a great tag! :>)


GravatarBuffy and Angel were the same, every season there would be one or two clunkers but did not take away from the overall quality of the show.
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek


Never watched either show.


Gravatarleg pressed 2000 pounds my ass.


What's funny about this is that I think it's going to be to this asshole what income tax evasion was to Al Capone. All the shit he's done and this will be what takes him down. Well, any port in a storm.


GravatarOT: At last, an exit strategy for the PM: can he really be eyeing UN's top job?

Call it the ultimate exit strategy. A $400,000 (£215,000) salary plus expenses, a rent-free townhouse on Manhattan's East river instead of a mortgage in Bayswater, and freedom from those troublesome backbenchers. Add world travel and loads of goody bags for Cherie, and Tony Blair could well be tempted by the job of UN secretary general, which just happens to fall vacant at the end of this year.

Sounds far-fetched? It is, because Britain is one of the five veto-holding powers on the UN Security Council. Nobody from the five big powers has ever been head of the UN, whose secretary general has always hailed from a biddable small state so that he or she won't get ideas above their station.

And the big five are the ones who actually pick their servant, the secretary general, even though the full 15-member Security Council takes the decisive vote. Naturally, the five permanent members want the ideal candidate to be more secretary than general.


GravatarOne last vent about lv-troll.

"towing the line"!?

Idiot.


GravatarCuz all liberals are homos and lesbos, ya know!

Just for the record, I'm not a homo. Often mistaken for one, which makes it hard to get dates with chicks sometimes, but I ain't.


Gravatar"towing the line"!?

Idiot.
rorschach

that part was funny.


GravatarThey beat him with bats and guns, held loaded guns to his head, threatened to shoot him, dunked his head in the toilet, burned him with lighters, attached his testicles to a battery charger
Character building.
jack



jack talking about character is like Bush talking about bravery and heroism.


GravatarUh, that ain't right!

No it ain't. I've planning and looking forward to this trip for the past 6+ months. I don't care about the money as much as the lost opportunity for a trip that I'll probably will never be able to go on again.


GravatarBuffy and Angel were the same, every season there would be one or two clunkers but did not take away from the overall quality of the show.
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek


After Buffy came back from being killed by Glory, the show sucked ass, with the notable exception of the musical episode.


GravatarA more incoherent and patronizing troll I've not seen in some time.
rorschach

yeah, but he knows how to tow the lion.

that was simple but elgant smackdown.

i'm not sure why they insist on demonstrating how stupid they are by arguing with people who are so obviously more intelligent. i'm not blowing smoke up roschach's ass either. i'm truly perplexed about that kind of perverse psychology.


GravatarOT: Uribe set to hold on against Latin America's 'pink tide'

Looking south from the high ground above Bogota, countless shacks sweep toward the horizon. Nobody knows how many people live in these impoverished neighbourhoods, or barrios, but they are among the largest and most chaotic in Latin America. Poverty and civil conflict have driven as many as three or four million Colombians to the outskirts of the capital.

In the broken brick and rusted metal of the notorious barrio of Cuidad Bolivar, red and yellow election posters cover every available flat surface bearing the slogan "Adelante Presidente" (Go Ahead, Mr President). The President in question is Alvaro Uribe.

Unlike his counterparts across the Andes in Bolivia and Peru, Mr Uribe is a right-winger. There will be no left turn in Colombia's elections tomorrow. The "pink tide" that is washing the continent stops here. Popular movements rooted in the endemic poverty of Latin America have transformed politics from Brazil to Nicaragua, but Washington's last ally in the region is expected to win re-election comfortably.


Gravatarmy whacko brother upon hearing that my daughter had a darwin fish on her car exclaimed "you don't allow that, do you?" what an asshole.



Well, don't you know that females...especially female children....are property and they're to be told what they can put on their cars or what they can think????????????


GravatarNaturally, the five permanent members want the ideal candidate to be more secretary than general.
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek


Well, Mr. Blair certainly fits that qualification quite nicely, doesn't he?


Gravatarthat part was funny.
DemByDefault | 05.27.06 - 3:21 pm | #


Yeah, and he just could NOT let it go! Hi-larious.


Gravatar"towing the line"!?

How else would you get the line into position? Duh, you need a tow.

And don't forget your steel-towed shoes.


GravatarNaptime.


GravatarWell, Mr. Blair certainly fits that qualification quite nicely, doesn't he?
Diane


Speaking of wanker..........


GravatarBill Bennett: “What Broke My Heart Is When [Bush] Said, 'I Need To Be More Sophisticated.' What Is This, Kerry Talk?”…




GravatarFor the record, you don't appear to be a homo to me.

Old man, write to the cruise ship, airlines, hotels, travel agent, everybody. Sucks way big time to have one vacation a year and then miss the boat because of the weather.


Gravatarrorschach I would agree that S6 and 7 were not Buffy at her finest.


Gravataryeah, but he knows how to tow the lion.

that was simple but elgant smackdown.

i'm not sure why they insist on demonstrating how stupid they are by arguing with people who are so obviously more intelligent. i'm not blowing smoke up roschach's ass either.


Why thank you charley. It is rather perplexing.


Gravatarmy whacko brother upon hearing that my daughter had a darwin fish on her car exclaimed "you don't allow that, do you?" what an asshole.

Your job is to spoil her with gifts, asshole. Nothing else, mmmkay.


Gravatari'm not sure why they insist on demonstrating how stupid they are by arguing with people who are so obviously more intelligent. i'm not blowing smoke up roschach's ass either.

I like arguing with people who are so obviously more intelligent than I. And I like blowing smoke up Rory's ass, too.


GravatarSilleigh, I knew someone was going to catch that the second I hit "publish."

I really felt bad "catching" it considering the circumstances.

(Catching up -- just went to the indymedia link. Christ. Can't IMAGINE listening to the audio link that's supposed to be there.)

And Ror, wouldn't you think most people would have said, "oh, 'tow' was a typo" (and then castigated you for being pedantic about typos)? But noooo...


Gravatarthe only season of Angel I didn't like too much was S3 and certain parts of S4 and that was only because of the introduction of Connor, who just ruined the show for me personally.

that and Cordelia turning evil, they really mangled her character.

ok i think i am being a bit sad here no?


GravatarMr. "Weird" Science to you.
Cletus, Homeskoold |


Junk science.


GravatarIt's Christopher Lee's birthday.

He's 84.


GravatarOT: Insurgents step up violence in Afghanistan

More than 20 people have been killed in fresh clashes in Afghanistan, and a human rights group reported yesterday that about 34 civilians died earlier this week in a US air strike on a southern village - double the official toll.

A Taliban ambush on a police patrol in the Ghazni province left 10 militants and one policeman dead, said the local police chief, Abdul Rahman Sarjang.Another 13 insurgents and two police died on Wednesday in a battle in the Helmand province's Sangin district, said the local administrator Ghulam Muhiddin.

Abdul Qadar Noorzai, the director of the Kandahar office of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, said Afghans who had fled thevillage of Azizi during a strike this week by US warplanes told him that about 25 family members died in one home and that nine others perished in the village's religious school, or madrassa,.


GravatarWhen I go skiing, the boat is often just towing the line.

Ha ha.


GravatarAnd here's lv's response to my correction of "towing the line":

wow!

I was using the phrase in my own chosen way. the question of an "idiom" is irrelevant, because I am entitled to use a phrase from my own knowledge and experience.

now,

if you want to read "toe the line" and say my typing "tow the line" is erroneous and misspelled,
fine with me. but remember please that you erred in reading my intent, and erred also in assuming YOUR "idiom" was what I intended.
and now you close with a snarky remark that I cannot admit error?
no, you're wrong about that too! I would indeed be in error if I typed "tow the line" where I meant "toe the line" but my text made the difference quite clear... if you were paying the same close attention you demanded of me!
saddle up, ponyboy! and pull that long string attached to that cotton pony!
liquified viscera | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 2:52 pm | #


GravatarBill Bennett: “What Broke My Heart Is When [Bush] Said, 'I Need To Be More Sophisticated.' What Is This, Kerry Talk?”…


Bush will NEVER be sophisticated.

You can put perfume on a pig, but it's still a pig.

I'll bet Chimpy can't even spell "sophisticated."


GravatarI quite reading Slate about six years ago, when it became obvious that it was just another mainstream media outlet that always assumed the worst about democrats while always giving republicans the benefit of the doubt. They also had the habit of promoting the dumbest shit-flinging baboons in their forums to "star posters".

Piss on them.


GravatarAnd don't forget your steel-towed shoes.

I have no idea what your hair color is, NTodd, but you're still an adorable little toehead.


Gravatarthe only season of Angel I didn't like too much was S3 and certain parts of S4 and that was only because of the introduction of Connor, who just ruined the show for me personally.

that and Cordelia turning evil, they really mangled her character.

ok i think i am being a bit sad here no?
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 3:27 pm | #


I agree 100%.

I like arguing with people who are so obviously more intelligent than I. And I like blowing smoke up Rory's ass, too.
NTodd, Tiresome | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 3:27 pm | #


The pleasure is mutual.


Gravatarlv was a total asshole.

Someone needs to increase his meds.


GravatarOT
some people have mentioned that Jeffery Skilling's brother, Tom, is a very popular TV weatherman in Chicago. This is from the suntimes. Curious


[Tom ] Skilling said he and his brother are "close," but added, "We didn't talk for years. We were so busy with our individual careers."

"I love my brother. I love him dearly, without qualification. He's a nice man, and he's got three wonderful children," Skilling said. "How they're dealing with this I can't imagine."

Tom Skilling has been with WGN for 29 years.


GravatarI was using the phrase in my own chosen way. the question of an "idiom" is irrelevant, because I am entitled to use a phrase from my own knowledge and experience.

Idioms are individual now? Cool!

Just so everybody knows, when I say "Goozlesnarf with Rory's berries", it is the idiom that means "Bush sucks eggs". Unless it's Tuesday.


GravatarOT: Lecturers' strike 'will hit 200,000 students'

More than 200,000 students will not have their exams marked this summer as a result of a boycott by university lecturers, the first independent survey on the impact of the dispute has revealed.

The study, by the graduate recruitment service Milkround, showed two out of three students indicated that their papers would not be marked while the row continues.

If mirrored across the country, it would leave about 230,000 students without final degree marks, leaving many unable to graduate or with difficulties pursuing the jobs they want.

The survey came as talks at Acas, the conciliation and arbitration service, between the university employers and unions broke up in acrimony yesterday without agreement. Both sides acknowledge the dispute needs to be settled by next week for any damage to students to be repaired.


GravatarKnow what the square root of 69 is?
Eight something...
under the radar -- 2:59 pm



8.3 and change


GravatarI quite reading Slate about six years ago

It was bad enough when it was Microsoft's attempt to join the 'web magazine' trend in the mid/late-90s, but under WaPo control, it's nothing more than a conventional wisdom regurgitator.


GravatarKnow what the square root of 69 is?
Eight something...
under the radar -- 2:59 pm

8.3 and change
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka...


WGG - say it out loud. Just do it. Then you'll laugh.


GravatarIdioms are individual now?

I don't think you're suppose to tell people your personal idioms. What's next, dropping your pants?


GravatarAll this Mr. Science talk reminds me of Dave Barry's column, where he'd do "Ask Mr. Language Person" once a month or so. Funny stuff.


GravatarOff topic, but this is just too, TOO weird:



http://www.comcast.net/news/ nati...vqh=itn_divorce


GravatarIdioms are individual now? Cool!

Just so everybody knows, when I say "Goozlesnarf with Rory's berries", it is the idiom that means "Bush sucks eggs". Unless it's Tuesday.
NTodd, Tiresome | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 3:31 pm | #


Exactly.

Throw out your Saussure.

lv has solved it all!


GravatarI don't think you're suppose to tell people your personal idioms. What's next, dropping your pants?

Idiomsyncrasies?


GravatarI quite reading Slate about six years ago, when it became obvious that it was just another mainstream media

Weisberg has really gone off the rails. His comparison of Shrubb and Hillary's Ipods is virtually a parody Beltway CW. Apparently the only reason a white person would say they have Aretha Franklin on their Ipod is to pander to blacks. IIRC, he was a big JoMo supporter in '04, wasn't he?


GravatarLate to the party, but I'm surprized the troll didn't say "towing the lion."

It would have been a shoe-in for idiot troll comment of the week.



(I don't need an ironic smiley face for that, do I?)


Gravatar"pro-evolution dogma"


No, asshole.

Idiotic Design is dogma, not evolution.


GravatarThrow out your Saussure.

Um...is that an idiom?


GravatarWhat's next, dropping your pants?
Snow | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 3:33 pm | #


He cain't drop whut he ain't got.


GravatarIdioms are individual now?

Solipsidioms.


GravatarIt would have been a shoe-in for idiot troll comment of the week.

Don't you mean "shoo-in"?


GravatarThrow out your Saussure.

Um...is that an idiom?
NTodd, Tiresome | Homepage | 05.27.06 - 3:34 pm | #


It might be, but come to think of it, I'm not Saussure after all.


Gravatar quite reading Slate about six years ago...

Slate is to news as Twinkies are to cuisine.


GravatarSolipsidioms.

This disembodied brain in a vat thinks that is exceedingly funny.


GravatarDon't you mean "shoo-in"?
NTodd, Tiresome


Is that counter-irony?


GravatarIt might be, but come to think of it, I'm not Saussure after all.

NO PUNNING!


GravatarAll this Mr. Science talk reminds me of Dave Barry's column, where he'd do "Ask Mr. Language Person" once a month or so. Funny stuff.
Charlotte Smith (nee Beavers) |


i was thinking of "ask dr science" (duck breath mystery theater, funny times)


Gravatar WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar

One helluva fine post on your blog yesterday, WGG, one helluva fine post.


GravatarApparently the only reason a white person would say they have Aretha Franklin on their Ipod is to pander to blacks.



But making an incompetent like KindaSleazy as SOS isn't pandering,


GravatarIs that counter-irony?

I don't iron.


GravatarI just clicked over to Slate, and for some reason, clicked on Mickey Kaus, like touching that scabby sore even though you know it's going to hurt. What an asshole he is.


GravatarSlate is to news as Twinkies are to cuisine.
Cletus, Homeskoold


I learned a couple of weeks ago that there are lots of Twinkie apologists on this board.

Maybe on weekends not so much.


GravatarI learned a couple of weeks ago that there are lots of Twinkie apologists on this board.


mmmmmmm - deep fried twinkies!


GravatarI have visions of toe headed creatures dancing in my head now. They're pretty cool looking, actually.


GravatarI don't iron.
NTodd, Tiresome


nice counter.


Gravataryeah, but he knows how to tow the lion.

made my self laugh.

i presume Snow means my brother should bestow gifts on my daughter. but we don't talk to that asshole.

in other news she just this moment purchased a new toyota, a yaris.

she's actually going to hate it for awhile, because unlike her ancient prelude it won't be covered with a bunch of reactionary bumperstickers. like "keep your laws off my body"

and now it's beer thirty. in awhile crocodiles.


GravatarMontana owls say: hoot hoot.


GravatarAnd all I've got are these eclairs....

mena, if I must, I guess an eclair would do instead.


GravatarOT: New Mogadishu clashes 'kill 13'

Clashes between militias in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, have left 13 people dead, days after some of the heaviest fighting seen in the city for years.

The latest violence has been centred in the Daynile and Galgalato districts.

Gun battles on Thursday killed least 60 people, left scores injured and forced hundreds out of their homes.

Some 200 people have died in clashes this year between militias loyal to Mogadishu's Islamic courts and an alliance of warlords.

The fighting is the worst the city has seen for more than a decade.

Somalia has had no fully functioning government since the overthrow of President Siad Barre in 1991.


Gravatari presume Snow means my brother should bestow gifts on my daughter. but we don't talk to that asshole.

Yep. Sorry that wasn't clear. My bad.


GravatarSpeaking of "idiom":
=================================
LAUNCELOT: No, no, sweet Concorde! Stay here! I will send help as soon as I
have accomplished a daring and heroic rescue in my own particular... [sigh]
CONCORDE: Idiom, sir?
LAUNCELOT: Idiom!
CONCORDE: No, I feel fine, actually, sir.
LAUNCELOT: Farewell, sweet Concorde!
CONCORDE: I'll, um, I'll just stay here then. Shall I, sir? Yeah.


GravatarLate to the party, but I'm surprized the troll didn't say "towing the lion."

It would have been a shoe-in for idiot troll comment of the week.



(I don't need an ironic smiley face for that, do I?)
SteveLG |



"I get to fight the lion!"
"Scott of the Sahara" (Python sketch)


GravatarWhile we are dissing Easterbrook (a noble occupation) let us not forget the incident in his New Republic Easterblog piece wherein he claimed that objects in orbit experience weightlessness because gravity is weaker farther from the earth's center...


GravatarJust scanning the threads before actually reading any comments. Quick message for Mister Easterbrook:
I got your "unseen intellect" right here in the tip of my shoe and I'd like to bury it in your sorry ass dumbass. What a maroon.
That is All!


GravatarSlate meant to title it "Mr. Seance".


GravatarSo Slate gets the CNN, Faux News treatment. DEAD! Dead to ME! Neidermeyer, Dead! Dean Wormer! Dead, man! Dead! Dead!


GravatarBRRRR! Well I actually waded through the Easterbrook link. He does make a few good points it seems, but I haven't gotten to see "An Inconvenient Truth" yet so I don't know yet how reliable his review is. He seems to basically say there's WAY to much Al Gore in Al Gore's movie(shrug). I'll probably have to wait for the DVD because of where i live.
Who's already seen it?


GravatarWhatever Easterbrook says, anyone that could write this:

"Intelligent-design thinking does not propound any specific faith or even say that the higher power is divine. It simply holds that there must be an unseen intellect imbedded in the cosmos."

..And try and say it isn't religion dogma wrapped in shiny paper is a
fool.


GravatarEasterbrook writes: "As someone who has come to the view that greenhouse-effect science is now persuasive...", then he links to article he wrote on May 17th, 2006, 5 days b/f the Slate article. I doubt he realizes that starting to believe in global warming as scientific truth in 2006 is a powerful indictment of his intelligence.


GravatarOh and the only guy who deserves to be called "Mr. Science" is Bill Nye, Science Guy. Or maybe Carl Sagan, but he's dead.
Buzz Bomb

Well Dr. Ed Stone may be a contender. The top "Voyager" scientist, here he is regarding the planets:
.."Well, generally the most important thing we learned is how diverse the bodies of the solar system are. Each one is unique and that's because they've had a different history, different evolution. Jupiter, with it's great red spot is just the largest of dozens of giant hurricane-like storm systems. And two of Jupiter's moons, Io, has a 100 times more volcanic activity than Earth. Europa has an ice crust probably on the liquid water ocean. On to Saturn, we've found Saturn's rings are riddled with wakes from moons, which are orbiting inside the rings and outside the rings. And there is a moon there called Enceladus, which is the whitest, brightest object in the solar system and has a very fresh surface. And there's the moon Titan, which has an atmosphere in which liquid natural gas rains on the surface. On to Uranus, where we found the magnetic pole down near its equator, and we found a moon, although it was only 300 miles across, it's one of the most complex surfaces we've yet seen. And on to Neptune, the furthest planet from the sun that we've visited, yet it has the fastest winds, with the least energy from the sun to dry them, and its moon Triton, 40 degrees above absolute zero, yet we found geysers erupting from its polar ice cap.


GravatarAnd may i say that my tags have been executed Perfectly today! YES!
Gotta gotta go check on my girl. She's being awfully QUIET! I'll intrude and try to slay another thread later.


GravatarGod's hand vs. the invisible hand. It took the Rev. Henry Ward Beecher in the late Nineteenth Century to teach us that Jesus was a Social Darwinist. And by the way, David Broder needs all the hands he can muster for his Victoria's Secret catalogues.


GravatarMaybe it was an homage to Dr. Science: "There is a thin line between ignorance and arrogance," (Dr. Science) says, "and only I have managed to erase that line.


GravatarMr.Science was a spoof on NPR in the 1980s. He has a masters degree "in science." Each skit would begin with a serious question to which he'd offer an obvious ludicrous response.


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