I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
oh, you'll get no argument from me there.
i hate stupidity of any stripe.
Second!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!
toma la chinga cabrons!
I live in the Philly area, and Geno's is essentially for the tourists. Real Philadelphians get their cheesesteaks elsewhere already.
i lived for a summer in west philly years ago, and let me tell you, half the white people who live there don't speak any dialect of English i can understand.
what kind of English is "wit whiz"?? it resembles the Bostonian "Corfee regalah".
"This comes from a man whose Italian-born grandparents spoke limited English. Talk about irony thicker than Cheez Whiz."
not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you.
brotherly love (whites only please)
Does "whiz wit" count as English?
Bonjour! Donnez-moi deux 'chiz-stayk wit', si'l vous plait? J'ai beaucoup de l'argent et j'intend acheter tout, ici!
Non? Pas d'anglais, pas de "chiz-stayk'? Pas de 'wit'?
Cochon!
Is a Southern Drawl or Ebonics considered English? What about real English from a Brit?
I remember reading about this last week sometime, and made a mental note to avoid the place when and if I get a chance.
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Been there, done that in the 60s. We had a local hamburger chain - Goff's - and the old man who ran it (Old Man Goff) was notoriously right wing and would not serve any make who came in with hair longer than a crew cut. He provoked any number of major confrontations during the 60s.
Plus ca change...
And for those who didn't understand before, IT'S G-D HOT HERE ALREADY. 100F at 9.13am.
make = male
I think I'm going to stop blogging for a while, a few weeks, anyway. This week has really caught up with me.
Later, all.
Plus ca change...
What the fuck does that mean?!
And for those who didn't understand before, IT'S G-D HOT HERE ALREADY. 100F at 9.13am.
GWPDA,
I feel ya!
It's hot here, too. And the humidity is high.
Do they serve up Freedom Fries at that place too?
A lot of Vietnamese crowding out some of the Italian Market regulars in South Philly.
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First diner:
Can I have a hamburger?
NO! It's "May I..". Now get out of here you non-English speaker!
Second diner:
Um, May I have the filet mignon?
GET our of here with your french!!!
Third diner:
Excuse me, sir, may I have a, a, er, a Coke?
No coke, pepsi.
I think I'm going to stop blogging for a while, a few weeks, anyway. This week has really caught up with me.
Go rearrange the house, have another baby, and drink some Guinness.
I guess tourists from Europe will just have to bypass that artery clogging experience, eh?
"No steaks for you! Banned! One year!"
I wonder, Atrios, how many Philadelphians tried to order in a language other than English there?
Are there are lot of Latinos in Philly? I have no idea. Is this just cantankerousness, like Old Man Goff?
I hope there's a comparable place nearby that embraces tolerance and openness. It'd be fun to see Geno's customers go away and end up at the new, interesting place.
how many Philadelphians tried to order in a language other than English there?
Well, that depends on whether you classify the Philadelphian dialect as "English", doesn't it?
That's funny, my first time in Paris they made me speak english to order too!
What will the deaf do when hankering for a Geno speciale?
Geno's Steaks homepage
http://www.genosteaks.com/
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I wonder, Atrios, how many Philadelphians tried to order in a language other than English there?
In wonder how many Philadelphians order in the native language when they visit other countries. Given what I heard when I've been abroad, I'm guessing not many...
Well, that depends on whether you classify the Philadelphian dialect as "English", doesn't it?
JR,
Honey, I'm from Texas. I don't know what you'd call what we speak, either.
By the way, what is the equivalent english name for "Geno"?
With this anal preoccupation with the English language, I really hope Americans start using proper English, for example eliminating the awful "to not" construction and spelling words like "colour" correctly.
The NYT got spun like a top in an article for tomorrow's paper about Chimpy's U-turn on Iran
She [condi] called the president back. Was he sure he was okay with his decision?
"Go do it," he responded.
no worries, folks. herr doktor frist kommt bei schon. sieg heil!!!
sieg heil!!! sieg heil!!!
So they can just go across the street to Pat's no?
And besides, isn't it often said that only tourists go to Geno's and Pat's? So Geno's wants only Merkin tourists I suppose?
What will the deaf do when hankering for a Geno speciale?
This.
There is a Hardee's commercial airing currently that I believe may have some importance here. It is two guys speaking in Philly speak with subtitles.
You can contact Geno's Steaks
here
Mercifully - 17% humididty.
Pat's* is the other big tourist trap they should do an ad, "Pat's would serve Geno's grandparents even if Geno won't!"
*It's been 10 years since I lived across the Delaware in Haddon Township, I don't know if Pat's is even still there.
is this sort of bigotry an example of geno-typing?
NYT -- those gym workouts count for something:
But 18 months after Ms. Rice took over, her relationship with Mr. Bush has led to policies that one former top adviser to both Ms. Rice and Mr. Bush said "he never would have allowed Colin to pursue."
i knew that was going to happen. i start a comment, step out for a second, finish it and press publish, and then i find out there's asshats afoot.
"Go do it," he responded.
P O'Neill
Boy things have changed since the Decider had to go make a poop at the UN and couldn't raise his hand.
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NTodd - do you know American sign language?
I really wish I did. I have a friend who is profoundly deaf and cannot speak. He reads lips, but he trouble reading mine and it's awkward. Man I wish I knew sign language.
IANAL, but aren't there federal laws that prohibit discrimination in places of public accomodation based on national origin?
Honey, I'm from Texas. I don't know what you'd call what we speak, either.
A friend of mine told me a great story. She spent about six months living with a family in Costa Rica, and speaks excellent Spanish.
While there, they'd watch American news (CNN?). My friend said there'd be people from around the country speaking, and her hosts would ask her what language it was for each area. My friend would reply, "English," but they couldn't believe it because of the wild diversity of dialects.
Off Topic:
Zogby says he has never seen numbers this bad for a party and that they indicate a massive sweep by the Dems.
OK.
Just what the fuck are we all going to do when the GOP retains control of both houses and maybe even gains seats in November?
Huh?
But, NTodd, that is not English. ASL, but not English.
I guess I'm officially a Genophobe now.
It's hard to understand a businessman who allows his bigotry to get in the way of a profit.
It takes me back to the Greensboro sit-in's of the early 1960's.
Even as a kid, I couldn't quite comprehend it on that level: a customer shows up with CASH MONEY and you're saying you don't want it?
Are you CRAZY?
Maybe a little Geno-cide is a good thing.
So Geno's customers have to speak in English to order cheesesteaks? Because that might be difficult for folks who can't speak.
I'm just waiting for a deaf-mute person to try to order a cheesesteak at Genos. Joseph Vento, watch out for Americans with Disabilities Act.
All of this access that the NYT was given for the Condi-Iran article is designed to show Chimpy being all preznitential
That led to Ms. Rice's warning to Mr. Bush over lunch, on April 4, that the momentum to confront Iran was disintegrating. Mr. Bush, one aide noted, "had Iran on the mind" because he was receiving special intelligence assessments every morning, some on Iran's intentions, others examining Mr. Ahmadinejad's personality, still others exploring how long it would take Iran to produce a bomb.
Hell, I was already boycotting them because of their antti-Mumia, plainly racist asshattery.
This.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 12:24 pm | #
Cool! You guys find everything. I have been using some signs for the daycare babies for a long time: "More," "All Done," "Help," "No." But I have a kid now who is a late talker, so my assistant and I are adding more signs to our repertoire.
NTodd - do you know American sign language?
Used to know a little bit. Had to when I worked at a camp for the developmentally disabled since so many of them had hearing problems in addition to cognitivie (not to mention heart and other health issues). The most important sign in those days: toilet (make a fist and put your thumb between the index and middle fingers, then wag your wrist).
My friend would reply, "English," but they couldn't believe it because of the wild diversity of dialects.
puppethead
Oddly, I just had to remind the Florida Borg contingent that when they were translating tech into Spanish for the Mexican market they'd better make sure they had a Mexican Spanish speaker double check it - Cubano or Puerto Rican or, as one fellow suggested, Castillian, wasn't exactly going to be helpful. I have an idea we'll be lucky if they find a Griegos from Taos to do it .... Drive a No-va!
well that eliminates the Albanian Tour Bus
Just called Geno's.....
Rob: "Hola, como estas?.....my family arrived in NJ in 1641 and we spoke the Kings English. Now, if I come down there right now and order in Spanish, what the fuck are you going to do? Not take my order?
Geno guy: c'mon in, you'll see.
Rob: See what? It says here in the Philly paper that....
Geno guy: That's wrong.
Rob: Damn right it's wrong. You'll serve non-english speakers?
Geno guy: C'mon in and see.
Rob: Fuck you.
click.
The boycott worked already! keep it up.
NYT
She [Condi] asked him [Chimpy] what kind of body language to display at the United Nations meeting.
"IANAL, but aren't there federal laws that prohibit discrimination in places of public accomodation based on national origin?
mamayaga"
Our laws have all been left to personal INTERPRETATION. If you do not agree with the law, you may now "interpret" the law to best reflect your desires. 
*It's been 10 years since I lived across the Delaware in Haddon Township, I don't know if Pat's is even still there.
Haze4Horses
It's still there.
I guess I'm officially a Genophobe now.
Eli |
Just a cog in the Human Genome Project.
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I have a kid now who is a late talker, so my assistant and I are adding more signs to our repertoire.
Good idea!
I use a lot of hand gestures with the dog(s), too. Just seems natural.
You can contact Geno's Steaks
here
eyya geno, fuck-uh-the you.
Holy crap.
Many Phildephians will starve seeing as how their accent sounds like Brooklyn -100 miles to me.
Cheese wit!
No wit for you!
what if your mouth is full of melted cheese but you're dying for seconds?
gimmeanotheronetheregino
Even as a kid, I couldn't quite comprehend it on that level: a customer shows up with CASH MONEY and you're saying you don't want it?
Are you CRAZY?
Slothrop
Some people are.
NYT
While Mr. Bush was intrigued, he was intent on secrecy, and so when the National Security Council met on the subject on May 17, he warned against leaks.
we had a cajun seafood place in houston, really yummy, who decided to start serving "freedom fries." my folks, and lots of others, apparently, wrote to the owner (who is a winger) saying that such an appellation is offensive ridiculous, insulting to cajun heritage, and they would not eat there again unless they are called french fries.
guy now sends free dinner coupons every 2 months, and changed them back to french fries.
go vegetarian.
I should also add that if you're in that neighbourhood, you should just go to La Taqueria Veracruzana anyway. The food's way better than a steak sandwich (which is revolting at the best of times), and they definately don't mind orders in spanish.
My friend would reply, "English," but they couldn't believe it because of the wild diversity of dialects.
Yes, and Venezuelans eat their r's or something like that.
Good morning (at least it's still morning here).
Did you know that it's Bash a Muslim Running for Congress Day in Minnesota?
go vegetarian.
ron
Vegetarians are too stringy.
go vegetarian.
ron
Vegetarians are too stringy.
Letters to the editors in today's WP really hit back hard on Broder's piece on the Clinton marriage & Frist's amazing surgical skills (not) with the local zoo's gorilla.
GO.
Cheeese on steak?? That's just abnormal. Now watch me put fries and cole slaw on this sandwich.
They're teaching babies sign language now. Apparently, they can sign before they can speak, and parents and their kids can communicate more at an earlier age.
so, i guess the moral of the story is, tell them you think that's ass and tell them you'll never eat there again until they act like americans again.
I wonder if they really will not serve, say, Japanese tourists. They serve Japanese or Italian or French or German tourists who do not speak English, I'd bet the policy ends up being illegal.
Did you know that it's Bash a Muslim Running for Congress Day in Minnesota?
You have so many quaint customs in Minnesota.
eyya geno, fuck-uh-the you.
focus, polkus
Try this - see if Geno understands: Vaffanculo!
(I bought the phrase book with all the cuss words in it.)
I thought Jim's on south Street was supposed to be way better. Assholes. And tradition or not (and I don't think it really is), no one should eat Cheese Whiz on a cheese steak. My sicilian grandfather (who would not be served since his accent was thicker than the humidtiy today) would have gone ballistic if someone brought that shit into the house. As it was, he almost had a coronoary when we bought peanut butter.
Our laws have all been left to personal INTERPRETATION.
It's Intentionalization.
Cheeese on steak?? That's just abnormal. Now watch me put fries and cole slaw on this sandwich.
And from what I hear, it is certainly not Kosher.
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I intend to go cook up some leftover steak.
Now watch me put fries and cole slaw on this sandwich.
Ah, the Carolina Classic.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!
Duncan Hack
This is the best y'all can do at this point, isn't it?
You have so many quaint customs in Minnesota.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler
Yeah...and the bastard won't even eat my green bean/tater-tot hot dish in the basement of my Lutheran church.
Actually, that sounds a lot better than a cheese steak, IMHO.
I've lived in Phily my entire life, don't go to Geno's...too far. I'll have to show my support now though and drive down a few times. You don't get it Black. Get out of my city.
Our laws have all been left to personal INTERPRETATION.
It's Intentionalization.
Snow |
_________________________________
Thanks, Snow. I like that terminology.
And tradition or not (and I don't think it really is), no one should eat Cheese Whiz on a cheese steak.
If it's a tradition, it's certainly not a very old one. Cheez Whiz has been around what, 40 years at the very most?
I thought Wycliffe was from Jamaica?
Hey you want a real fashion show in South Philly. Go to the Melrose Diner up the street after last call at the local bars and watch all the locals too well dressed to stop at Geno's.
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I've lived in Phily my entire life, don't go to Geno's...too far. I'll have to show my support now though and drive down a few times. You don't get it Black. Get out of my city.
Hey dude, quit breathin' my air!!!
It's cute, it thinks it owns the city!
Awwwwwwwwww!
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I thought Wycliffe was from Jamaica?
Snow
Dumbfuckistan.
Uh Oh! Just went to check on the girls. They're watching the ballet, "Coppelia," but I caught the older one reading, "Mi Ciudad," a children's book in spanish. Guess we won't be traveling to Philadelphia anytime soon...
Cheez Whiz is a thick processed cheese sauce or spread introduced by Kraft Foods in 1952. The bright, orange, viscous liquid usually comes in a glass jar, and is used as a topping for corn chips, hot dogs, cheesesteaks, and other foods. It is popular in the United States, Canada, and the Philippines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheez_Whiz
You know, this is all so fucking silly. The Latinos who settle here turn into us. A local news station here has been following a family named Rodriguez as they lose weight - it's a series and it's stupid, but there you go. Anyway, they had them on last night and interviewed them in their home.
They are us. There is no fucking difference except they have a Spanish surname and look Latino. So? Otherwise they are us.
Jesus, this hatefulness - *sigh*
And tradition or not (and I don't think it really is), no one should eat Cheese Whiz on a cheese steak.
Can we just shorten that to "don't eat Cheez Whiz"?
Sorry if this has been covered already above, but where do Philadelphians go for their cheesesteaks? The only time I was there I went to Jim's; is that also a tourist trap? It was great, but inevitably you're better off going where the locals themselves go.
Now that said, Ol'Froth has the right idea.
I thought Wycliffe was from Jamaica?
i thought the fugees were haitian? i know there's lauryn hill, wycliffe jean, but who's the third?
Cheez Whiz is a thick processed cheese sauce or spread introduced by Kraft Foods in 1952.
BTW individually wrapped "slices" of cheese are actually sprayed onto the plastic then sealed.
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Jesus, this hatefulness - *sigh*
And,oddly, some people find it in the Bible, so it's a-ok with them.
We are the saddest species...
When are they going to start using vegamite instead of cheez whiz?
You want that bright orange viscous liquid wit?
(I bought the phrase book with all the cuss words in it.)
Tena
I got the book, "All the Italian Profanity I've Ever Needed I Learned From The Supreme Court".
Now that said, Ol'Froth has the right idea.
The first time I had one of those Primanti (pronounced "Permanny") subs, I was completely underwhelmed, but they've really grown on me, and I'm craving one right now.
A-Man, I'ver eaten at Geno's quite a bit ... not anymore, because I've decided it sucks (except for the pork) ... and was always put off by their Daniel Faulkner bullshit. Mumias killed himn, I know ... but get over it ... it was 1981, for God's sake. They also had a sign offering "freedom fries" ... and now this. Kiss off, assholes. And I'm a BIG eater.
"Velveeta, so vegetarians can have Spam, too."
Mumia, I mean.
The Latinos who settle here turn into us.
nuh-uh! they put up all those hard-to-read signs that say things like "taqueria" and "pollo," and they make advertisers spend money to market to them, and they play funny music at the parks, (ever notice that they seem to be the largest segment of the population that actually uses the parks for picnics? at least, that's how it is in Houston) and and and!
Sorry if this has been covered already above, but where do Philadelphians go for their cheesesteaks?
The local roach coach.
And,oddly, some people find it in the Bible, so it's a-ok with them.
Remember, NT BAAAAD (except Revelations), OT GOOOOOD.
So they proudly refuse to serve tourists from foreign lands? Except England, Australia, and Canada?
Wow. Entrepeneurial genius at work!
They also had a sign offering "freedom fries" ...
I've seen it in WI, too. It was all I could do to order my food with falling down, laughing.
If Jesus Christ (a non English speaker) returns and somehow ends up in South Philly would he be refused service at Geno's?
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Can we just shorten that to "don't eat Cheez Whiz"?
JR, kerosene and a match
Can you make poutine with cheez whiz?
BTW individually wrapped "slices" of cheese are actually sprayed onto the plastic then sealed.
really? and didn't i learn here somewhere that Fanta is actually a hydrocarbon or something?
no wonder it costs as much to buy a liter of house wine in italy is it does to get a "coke light." they're obviously trying to protect people from themselves.
how do you say "cheesesteak" in Aramaic?
jesus christ would be refused admission to an evangelical church.
But 18 months after Ms. Rice took over, her relationship with Mr. Bush has led to policies that one former top adviser to both Ms. Rice and Mr. Bush said "he never would have allowed Colin to pursue."
P O'Neill
hmmm, looks like the nyt burnishing rice's reputation for a presidential run -- she of the hard-working, internationalist type out to save the world. let's forget about that unfortunate lapse 'osama determined to attack the u.s.'
Can you make poutine with cheez whiz?
Tom
No, anything but curds is sacreligious, and will get you deported.
Remember, NT BAAAAD (except Revelations), OT GOOOOOD.
Eli
Except for the part in the OT that says (over and over again; it's the LAW): take care of the widow, the orphan, and the alien (i.e., foreigners) among you.
When Israel stopped doing that, according to the prophets, was when Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and took the nation into Exile. Not, as Dobson and Robertson would have you think, when they began to be kind to homosexuals.
Or to provide welfare. Welfare is written into the Mosaic law. When Israel ignored that, is when the trouble started.
one former top adviser to both Ms. Rice and Mr. Bush said "he never would have allowed Colin to pursue."
Condi-whipped.
And,oddly, some people find it in the Bible, so it's a-ok with them.
Remember, NT BAAAAD (except Revelations), OT GOOOOOD.
Eli
Well in that case, I think this calls for a group of religious protestors outside Geno's angrily displaying signs saying: "Thou shalt not seeth a kid in it's mothers milk."
Get out of my city.
Wycliffe | 06.03.06 - 12:36 pm | #
Get out of my country, you assrimming little nazilicking swine. Better yet, stay and suffer defeat and disgrace.
Eli,
Tell me about it. A Chicago hot dog is nice, but it doesn't satisfy the Primanti beast. Once, in College, a friend of mine (having consumed a few beverages earlier in the evening) decided to hit the Primantis in Oakland for sandwiches, and then decided to grab some Fries at the O. When I surprisingly did not have a massive coronary that night, I decided that it was the greatest meal I'd ever had. And that I must never ever do it again.
Er, that should be its mother's milk. That's what you get for copying and pasting from the ignorant internets.
If Jesus Christ (a non English speaker) returns and somehow ends up in South Philly would he be refused service at Geno's?
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Agent Orange
But he did speak English!
The King's English! (Yes, I know people who believe this.)
Well in that case, I think this calls for a group of religious protestors outside Geno's angrily displaying signs saying: "Thou shalt not seeth a kid in it's mothers milk."
Don't forget to picket Red Lobster.
jesus christ would be refused admission to an evangelical church.
Speaking of that, there was and awesome and hella scary diary at dKos about a megachurch in, I think, Dallas. I'll see if I can find the link....
Or to provide welfare. Welfare is written into the Mosaic law. When Israel ignored that, is when the trouble started.
Rmj
Heck, even the Mormons get that. They usually take care of their own.
The local roach coach.
Buzz Bomb | 06.03.06 - 12:43 pm | #
No disrespect to travelling lunch wagons, but should they really roll up with their horn playing 'la cucaracha?'
Yeah...and the bastard won't even eat my green bean/tater-tot hot dish in the basement of my Lutheran church.
Zap, gimme some of yer tots!
Here it is...
Six Flags Over Jesus
Creepy stuff...
Can you make poutine with cheez whiz?
Tom
No, anything but curds is sacreligious, and will get you deported.
JR, kerosene and a match
Deported? To some place where they'd make poutine with cheese whiz and force you to order it in English?
Get out of my city.
get off his website.
Well in that case, I think this calls for a group of religious protestors outside Geno's angrily displaying signs saying: "Thou shalt not seeth a kid in it's mothers milk."
Maybe Rev. Fred Phelps et. al. will show up at Geno's with signs that read GOD HATES CHEESE WHIZ.
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Get out of my city.
He's commenting from...INSIDE THE BLOG!
Remember, NT BAAAAD (except Revelations), OT GOOOOOD.
Eli
So, um, Jewish with an Armageddon twist.
how would I ask for a "chili" in english?
Except for the part in the OT that says (over and over again; it's the LAW): take care of the widow, the orphan, and the alien (i.e., foreigners) among you.
I was only talking about the *good* parts of the OT.
You know, with the plagues and the smiting.
sometimes I just come here. read through the comments. find 5 or 6 things to chuckle about or even laugh my head off about and then leave without posting a thing.
Can you make poutine with cheez whiz?
Deported? To some place where they'd make poutine with cheese whiz and force you to order it in English?
Tom
Yes, to Philadelphia.
I was only talking about the *good* parts of the OT.
You know, with the plagues and the smiting.
Fire.....Brimstone....
AND NITRO-FUELED FUNNY CARS !!!
Remember, NT BAAAAD
I'm not bad. I just comment that way.
Or to provide welfare. Welfare is written into the Mosaic law. When Israel ignored that, is when the trouble started.
Rmj
some parts of italy during the renaissance had mosaic law. Ravenna for instance.
I was only talking about the *good* parts of the OT.
You know, with the plagues and the smiting.
Eli
The Hollywood parts.
Can you make poutine with cheez whiz?
[shudder]
Although in my experience, the further West from Quebec you travel, the weirder people's ideas of 'poutine' is. Give me the real stuff, please.
[And gimme closing tags.]
AND NITRO-FUELED FUNNY CARS !!!
Jesus uses Valvoline.
new testament sheets
Ahem, I suggested here that Lord Geno should be voted Sub-Wanker of the Day when this story appeared on May 30th.
I spent 7 yrs in Filthadelphia, and I never understood the fascination with Genos. Pats is way better.
i knew there was a reason why i always like Pat's Steaks better.
When I passed GENO's the first time I decided to keep walking since I don't go to a fake Italian. If his name had been GINO I may have tried his steaks.
Free Hate with your Cheese Steak.
Malkin was all over this story the other day. He's a hero to the Malkinites!
http://michellemalkin.com/archiv...ives/
005291.htm
Hooray for bigotry!
someone has probably already suggested this, but I think everyone in Philly who reads about this, should go to Geno's and order in ANY language BUT English.
The guy's a racist idiot. He's got a hummer H3 with some "kill Mumia" rhetoric on it out back. I interviewed the owner of Pat's and Geno's about a year ago for a TV show. Pat's was very conciliatory and demurred at starting any kind of controversy between him and Geno's. Geno was a raging asshole, talking about how Pat's meat was bad, how they have a better clientele, how Pat invented the steak but they perfected it, etc. Bunch of garbage.
Also Pat ended up giving my crew some free steaks. At Geno's everyone had to pay.
And THAT's why I always go to Pat's...
If want a Geno's steak so badly, get a pack of of Steak-ums, Cheez-Whiz and stale bread. Voila! You've got yourself a real-life Geno's Philly Chease Steak. Assholes!
damn shame. those steaks are so good. way better than the gristly ones at pat's. oh, well. there's always jim's and tony luke's.
Perhaps people could call Southwest Airlines Public Relations/Media Relations line at 214-792-4847 and ask if they support Geno's bigotry as someone from Geno's appears in Southwest's "It's like a Baby New York" ads for fares to Philadelphia.
Wow.
Jim Steaks on South Street is better anyways. And I'm sure they don't care how you order.
Nuff Said
2sc
You want a real cheese steak? Come down to Atlantic City and go to the "White House Sub Shop". The best cheese steaks you'll ever sink your teeth into. Real cheese. Not that crap Cheez Whiz. Fucking Cheez Whiz! Best way to ruin anything.
I know large US cities are always trying to make themselves less attractive to tourism so it is good to see Geno's helping scare off the international tourists from Philadelphia.
decided to hit the Primantis in Oakland for sandwiches, and then decided to grab some Fries at the O.
I;m getting awfully hungry right now!
This is actually pretty hilarious. If anyone wants to boycott Geno's for their policy all they have to do is walk across the street to Pat's. Clearly Geno has put a lot of thought into this...
I'll have one formaggio alla bistecca.
I've always been partial to chubby's in roxborough...yum. just thinking about it makes me want to road trip.
Hey! On the 4th of July maybe they'll sponsor the booth where you get to pay a buck to throw a pie in the face of a young immigrant mother! Woohoo! Merka! Numba Won!
Just left the following at his site contact page.
From: A Frequent Cusonter
Email: bigotsweclome@genosteaks.com
Continued from above:
"Thought you might like to know:
1. this story, with appropriate anti-bigotry commentary, has been picked up by dozens (and by next week, it will be hundreds) of progressive blogs, news sites, forums, and message boards. This is going to cost you a hell of a lot of customers.
2. you can be sure that you WILL be challenged legally. There are already two groups and there will be others - with more than adequate legal resources - to initiate more than a few test cases which will find you before the appropriate Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and Federal authorities for your discrimination or failure to be fair in providing service equally - not to mention the obvious civil exposure to you corporately and personally which will be forthcoming.
3. along with what will be thousands of lost customers by the time this story travels globally - and it will, this is the age of the internet where reputations are made and lost in nanoseconds - you have lost my business as well.
Good-bye … considering your own heritage, you're nothing better than a hypocrite and, indeed, a bigot. You’re parents and your grandparents should be very proud, huh?
Y'know, when I meet someone who speaks a language other than mine, or speaks with an accent I don't have, I don't feel superior to them. Quite the opposite, in fact. Here's someone, I say to myself, who has been somewhere I have never been, who has seen things I have never seen, who has lived a life different from mine in a way that I cannot fully comprehend.
Maybe that's just me...
Hey Joe,
The only language I ever heard anybody from Philly speak was Phillese. You could hardly call it English.
What I really think all you white men should do is learn to speak Choctaw, Cherokee, Navajo or the like. You know, the real native languages of this country. If you don't learn one of them just take your Lilly white pimply ass back to England... or in your case Vento, get your wop ass back to Italy
Ever So Sincerely,
Chief Michael Rain Crow
Choctaw Nation
P.S. What are you gonna do when someone visiting from the old country orders in Italian?
racist rednecks in every city and state of America. losers.
So, I guess Geno's family is Native American, hunh? Never emigrated here from anywhere else.
Fuckin' Navajo cheesesteaks!
They've got a comment page here:
http://www.genosteaks.com/contact.php
Here's what I wrote:
I heard Geno's isn't serving to anyone who isn't a native English speaker. More power to you!
Hopefully your offensive attempt to soil the heritage of every Italian, Greek, German, and other non-english speaking immigrants who ever came to this country will put you out of business.
I send people I don't like to Geno's so they can eat Steak-Ums on stale bread with some canned cheese on top. I send friends to Jims on South.
Hope you grow up some day. Geno's grandfather wouldn't have been able to eat with you fools if he was alive today.
Take a few minutes to stop and think about whether you're doing something principled, or coming off as a bunch of racists who just don't like "other" immigrants. Your business was built on the backs of people who didn't speak English.
All I know is when I go to Italy the Italians I meet are very gracious when confronted by my almost complete inability to converse in Italian. I've never been in France and heard someone say "Order in French or get the hell out!"
At what point did being a complete and total jackass become a point of pride for people? These are the same folks who would complain that the French treat them rudely.
someone has probably already suggested this, but I think everyone in Philly who reads about this, should go to Geno's and order in ANY language BUT English.
How about this?:
Una bistecca del formaggio e patate fritte, per favore.
That's right, order in the language of Geno's grandparents or great-grandparents.
I'm old enough to remember that more than a few grandparents of my Italian-American friends barely spoke 3 words of English despite the fact that they'd lived in the USA for 3 or 4 decades.
Hint: It's generally an old people's problem.
A guy I worked closely with was a Cuban-American who came here when he was about 9. He speaks English with an American accent and Spanish with a gringo accent. He also writes much better in English than in Spanish. His late mom, however, barely spoke 3 words of English, and if he was out of the office, she was relieved if she got me on the phone, since I do speak pretty decent Spanish.
On a side note, I wonder how many Americans try to order in English when they're in non-English-speaking countries. Being an evil liberal,
Oops. I was gonna say that during my own trips to Europe, I did try to speak the local language, but then again I'm an evil liberal. I did notice quite a few Americans not even trying a simple "Sprechen Sie Englishe?" or "Parlez-Vous Anglais?"
Also, I'm a New Yorker and we get an awful lot of French tourists, and I've never witnessed a conversation like this:
French tourist: "Excusez-moi, monsieur, ou se trouve l'Edifice de l'Etat de l'Empire?" (Pardon me, sir, where's the Empire State Building?)
New Yorker: (shakes head) I'm sorry. I don't speak French.
French tourist: (much louder) OU. SE. TROUVE. L'EDIFICE. DE. L'ETAT. DE. L'EMPIRE?
In Paris, however, I did witness more than a few Americans who treated Parisians in that fashion.
The customer is always right? Not at Geno's Steaks in South Philadelphia.
"Belly up to its counter and order a cheesesteak in a language other than English, and you'll walk away hungry. Fromage-avec? Fugheddaboudit."
"It seems that Joseph Vento, Geno's owner, feels strongly that everyone in this country ought to speak English - even if they're tourists from faraway climes looking for that fabled Philly cheesesteak fix."
-Fuck Joseph Vento and fuck Geno's Steaks (there, I said it in English, bitch!)
auf deutsch:
ein Kasesteak, bitte
en francais:
un bifteck avec fromage, s'il vous plait
italian
biftecco con formaggio, per favore
Russian:
стейк с сыром, пожалуйста
(thanks to babelfish for the last one)
They're proudly saying they won't serve anyone who can't order in English.
Dear god I wish I were in Philly so I could order in Italian.
Then I would tell them they're a bunch of bucaioli.
biftecco con formaggio, per favore
here comes the anal-retentive in me...
bistecca is feminine in Italian.
una bistecca con formaggio, bucaioli!
I never knew that cheese COULD whiz . . .
Geno's has the worst steaks in the city, the last thing these clowns should be doing is insisting people order them in English. Here's a good English sentence to use at the counter: Take your lousy, dried up hunks of greasy gristle and shove them, you racist jerks.
Isn't this also a legal issue? Anyone?
It's long been one of those places where Aryan Nation-type ex-cons and bigoted members of the police department could bond over their hatred for nonwhites. I've been referring to it as "Geno's Racist Cheesesteaks" at Temple U. for a while, and everyone thinks it an apt name.
D'Alessandros it is then. Actually Geno's really can't hold a candle to D'Alessandro's no matter what the political climate.
Steve's, Prince of Steaks, on Bustleton.
Persoanlly, I like Genos, but I'll begin munching at Pat's.
Jims is pretty good too. And Abner's? Freakin' heaven.
Geno's is disgusting, Pat's is only marginally better. Want a great steak? Tony Luke's. Jim's is good, but you gotta deal with kids from Jersey who have come over to South Street.
And you order it "wit, sharp." That's sharp provolone, not that disgusting orange product.
For variety, you order the "Pork Italian", and yes, you want "greens."
Pats hits the spot when the bars are closed and you just gotta have it wid. But you can avoid Passyunk altogether and get a fine steak sammich elsewhere, or better yet a hoagie -- yeah!
Go down West Chester Pike (Route 3) a few miles west to Broomall, and get a killer steak from Drexel Hill Style Pizza. Problem solved. Stomach satisfied.
(John's in Frazer, down US 30 a bit further, is also top-notch.)
Language can be a proxy for national origin, discrimination on which is flatly illegal.
It is one thing not to have multilingual staff and be unable practically to place the order, it's another to announce - you don't speak English you don't get served.
A smarter move would have been to welcome such customers and maybe help them to learn how to order in English at a slow moment.
Capisce?
Another prime example of Dumbassery:
From Sunday NY Whore Times:
As President's Poll Numbers Fall, Many in Utah Stand by the Man
Dumbasses.
Geno's steaks are mediocre at best, it is more the experience he is selling. For a Philly's best cheesesteak, and the experience, go to Jims Steaks on South Street.
As if most of the people of South Philly that 'speak' English actually do so as it is...nowadimeen?
What they need to do is find a deaf person (preferrably foreign-looking) to go there & try to order by pointing at menu pictures or words. And when the person gets refused service, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) can be used as a hammer to smash this idiot down.
Chacun a son gout.
CHEESE STEAK NAZIES
US Code, Title 42; Chapter 21; Subchapter II; § 2000a. Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation
"(a) Equal access
All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin....
...Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this subchapter if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:
...
(2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the premises of any retail establishment..."
I wonder if they'll be as proud in front of a federal judge.
Natuurlijk moet u van mijn het posten in talen buiten het Engels eveneens houden; wordt verkeerd begrepen niet een zorg of een probleem als de cultuur en de diepte het doel zijn.
GIMMIE TWO WIT AND TWO WITOUT.HOWS DAT? SHOVE YOUR CHEESE STEAK STEAK UP YOUR ASS.
GIMMIE TWO WIT AND TWO WITOUT.HOWS DAT? SHOVE YOUR CHEESE STEAK STEAK UP YOUR ASS.
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