I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

o broder, where art thou?


GravatarThe stupidest thing I have ever heard of is when someone said they knew were Saddam hid the WMDs.

Oh wait. That was me...

--


GravatarI thought to get attention from Broder all you had to do was show him your underwear?


Gravatari am licking dennis hastert-s enormous he-boobies.


GravatarMy reaction to unity08 was exactly the same. About the only thing it will do is drain votes from the Dems. Nice idea about 50 years ago. Not so much now.


GravatarIt all springs from the same place - the fear of progressives.

They are all scared shitless of us.


GravatarI thought to get attention from Broder all you had to do was show him your underwear?

only after you present yourself as a couple. god forbid a married couple doing that.


GravatarIt all springs from the same place - the fear of progressives.

They are all scared shitless of us.


and they just make me more progressive. after all, i might as well be one since they call me one.


GravatarThe Best Defense Is A Good Offense...

Familiarity with and sympathy for these will make you fittingly offensive to the fascist fux...


lottsa resources...copy and foreward to yr friends (or link 'em to my blog!!!)
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Gravatarturned it into the most intriguing gambit yet seen for the 2008 election.

Well, and this all just foreshadows how much drool will be spilled in the general direction of doesn't-use-his-salad-fork McCain and Joementum...


GravatarNow is not the time for some hare-brained coalition government scheme.

Not the time at all.

If Americans don't like single party government, and I don't think they do, they can figure it out for themselves at the polls.

Big Mommies and Daddies and DC do not have to make these decisions for us.


GravatarDoesn't Johnny Apple have an extra seat on the MI bus for Broder? Broder should be reporting on nachos from Branson.


GravatarHaloscan, you have lied to me for the last time!


GravatarOh Hell, this is just another way of saying they want to be the ONLY ONES to take internets to the future.

The future of the graveyard.


GravatarWhat the fuck? Did Pasty come up with this?


GravatarFrom linky:

The one leading sponsor who has held public office is Angus King, elected twice as an independent as governor of Maine.

I guess it won't take long for his BFF, Jesse Ventura to jump on board. Together, they'll probably try and draft Donald Trump for president again.


Gravatarum, was the original idea by West Wing, or was it all the people that suggested Kerry choose McCain in 2004? (that woulda been horrible!)

and in early 2004, i had a friend who had a bumpersticker that said Clark/McCain '04. sooo... once again, Yertle the Turtle is dumb.


GravatarJust an FYI for you literate netjockeys out there... Something you can do to make a bit of spare change while hanging out on the Web...

applyqa.newsstand.com

Online proofing, paid by the page. Load time is for shit right now, but will speed up dramatically on Monday night, word has it.


GravatarThey're just greedy for the fund raising ability.


GravatarThey're just greedy for the fund raising ability.


GravatarThere may be more than a whiff of elitism in the Unity08 manifesto, which explicitly puts down social issues, such as abortion and gay marriage, that are important to many voters, while emphasizing education, the environment, health care and energy.

a whiff of elitism(?!)

that is an astonishing sentence. i think if you scrape off a couple of layers of that old wrinkly skin, he really does place the panty-sniffing above all other considerations.


GravatarYertle the Turtle is dumb.

And unfortunately, it's turtles all the way down.


GravatarI would totally vote for Bananaphone for preznit.


Gravatarum, was the original idea by West Wing, or was it all the people that suggested Kerry choose McCain in 2004? (that woulda been horrible!)

and in early 2004, i had a friend who had a bumpersticker that said Clark/McCain '04. sooo... once again, Yertle the Turtle is dumb.


Ew!!

I hated that whole fucking "conversation." What idiocy!


GravatarEw!!

I hated that whole fucking "conversation." What idiocy!


same here.


Gravatar Just an FYI for you literate netjockeys out there...

Do I need a fucking PhD?


GravatarYertle the Turtle is dumb.

And unfortunately, it's turtles all the way down.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 12:56 pm | #


And the sad thing is, most cosmologies have elephants between us and the turtles!


Gravatarum, was the original idea by West Wing, or was it all the people that suggested Kerry choose McCain in 2004? (that woulda been horrible!)

and in early 2004, i had a friend who had a bumpersticker that said Clark/McCain '04. sooo... once again, Yertle the Turtle is dumb.
PoppieProng, fka Seaxneat,


O god, I hate to think about going through all that again.


Gravatar
And unfortunately, it's turtles all the way down.




i shouldn't denigrate Yertle, though.


GravatarBig Mommies and Daddies and DC do not have to make these decisions for us.
==

It sounds like they're just looking to protect their investment. Be fair.

Good morning.


GravatarDo I need a fucking PhD?
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 12:57 pm | #


Most certainly not, I assure you...


GravatarThe Sanctity of Marriage


GravatarAnd the sad thing is, most cosmologies have elephants between us and the turtles!
rorschach |


Ah, the Great A'Tuin.


Makes me smile every time.



GravatarMost certainly not, I assure you...

Fuck. There goes another issue I wanted to bitch about.


GravatarThe Sanctity of Marriage
PoliShifter

Is that an Edward Burne Jones Pre-Raphaelite stained glass window? It sure looks like it.


GravatarPoliShifter - could you at least fucking say 'hello' once in a while before you whore OT shit?


Gravatarfuck you haloscan, fuck you tags.


Gravatar"As fans of the now-canceled NBC drama know,"

I was a fan and unaware that the show had been canceled. Amazing how they managed to slip in a series finale at the last minute, kind of like the episode they did for 9/11/01.


GravatarFuck. There goes another issue I wanted to bitch about.

well, that never stopped me!


Gravatarsee? Fuck that applyqa for not requiring a PhD!!!


Gravatarbroder doesn't get out much, does he.


GravatarMost certainly not, I assure you...

Fuck. There goes another issue I wanted to bitch about.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler


Yeah I was hoping for more out of that too.



GravatarOh dear. The country version of "Bananaphone".


Gravatarbroder doesn't get out much, does he.

Do the bushes outside Casa Clinton count?


GravatarI hated that whole fucking "conversation." What idiocy!

Indeed, and, as I said, the Broders are just itching to burst over a potential McCain/Joementum coalition. Didn't some Important Person say a couple years back they wanted to be a part of the [non-existant] "Party of Lieberman and McCain"?


Gravatarmost cosmologies have elephants between us and the turtles!

My aching shell!


Gravatarwell, that never stopped me!
==

I haven't seen anything stop him, either.


GravatarFuck. There goes another issue I wanted to bitch about.

I wouldn't let that stop me. Why should you?


Gravatarbroder doesn't get out much, does he.
watertiger ,/i>

I think it's more that he doesn't get *in*much, if you get my drift.

Maybe someone should send him a link to RealDoll.


Gravatar"The National Association of Student Councils..."

Oh, lordy. There's goes my tinfoil hat alert...


GravatarI haven't seen anything stop him, either.



GravatarOh, bitch away!

It's one of the great pleasures in life. From the greatest king to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit--I mean, a good bitch. I mean...


GravatarIndeed, and, as I said, the Broders are just itching to burst over a potential McCain/Joementum coalition. Didn't some Important Person say a couple years back they wanted to be a part of the [non-existant] "Party of Lieberman and McCain"?

How often do McCain and Lieberman have sex, is what I wanna know. Either with each other or with Dubya.


Gravatar PoliShifter - could you at least fucking say 'hello' once in a while before you whore OT shit?
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler


I sense a lack of integrity on your part, NTodd.

Where's the fucking civility?


GravatarHow often do McCain and Lieberman have sex, is what I wanna know. Either with each other or with Dubya.

eeep!


Gravatareeep!

You know, I got "PPILF" as my Blogger comment verification word yesterday...


GravatarI haven't seen anything stop him, either.

Come on, I'm always a ray of fucking sunshine.


Gravatarrorscach - sitting around bitching is the apotheosis of, like.......um, something.


GravatarCome on, I'm always a ray of fucking sunshine.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:05 pm | #


I prefer a day of sucking down moonshine, myself.


Gravatar "The National Association of Student Councils..."

How is that even remotely a good idea?

"Say, Billy - let's form a national association to discuss the esoteric intricacies of local organizations who have absolutely no impact on each other!"

"Great idea, Timmy!"

Though, I believe there is an international organization of Scotts. I never joined but it's nice to know we're thinking about each other.


Gravatarah, i found it: Fanta is made from cheese and cider by-products.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanta



and i would just like to register my distaste of 45-year-old suburban housewives who are size 2 and have fake boobs, and who walk around in workout clothes all day.


GravatarThis fucking stupid idea is going to have Tweety Matthews jizzing in his boxers.


GravatarPoliShifter - could you at least fucking say 'hello' once in a while before you whore OT shit?
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler


This guy, Alex, Heywood, I wouldn't click through if I was promised a $100.

$1000 maybe.


Gravatarrorscach - sitting around bitching is the apotheosis of, like.......um, something.
mena | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:06 pm | #


I could not agree more, even if I felt like trying, which I don't--because of the government!


Gravatar
Come on, I'm always a ray of fucking sunshine.


no you're not; you're "Worse than Hitler"!


Gravatarand i would just like to register my distaste of 45-year-old suburban housewives who are size 2 and have fake boobs, and who walk around in workout clothes all day.

That's an unfair and presumptive generalization! You don't know if she's married...


GravatarYou know, I got "PPILF" as my Blogger comment verification word yesterday...

um... PoppieProng I'd Like to Fuck?

now i'm blushing...


GravatarThis guy, Alex, Heywood, I wouldn't click through if I was promised a $100.

jurassicpork at least goes on at length about how great his latest post(s) is/are. Not sure if that's better or worse...


Gravatar--because of the government!
==


I hate them sooooooooo much.......!


(/Homer)


GravatarOh, yes, after every so-called moderate Republican enabled a war based on lies, the looting of future generations, a kleptocracy that makes Ferdinand Marcos look like a piker, the continued destruction of the environment, congressional corruption on a massive scale, the cover-up of the misuse of pre-war intelligence on Iraq, the cover-up of how Bush administration incompetence enabled 9/11 -- none of which would have been possible without the connivance of people like Collins and Snowe and Powell -- these enablers, these connivers in this illigitimate administration's destructive agenda, should definitely have a say in the selection of the next president.

At every point, when it was a choice between the best interest of the country and the best interests of their party, they chose party. At every point, when it was a choice between seeking the truth and protecting the party, they chose party.

I don't know if David Shithead Broder knows this, but people who always put their party first are called partisans. There are no Barry Goldwaters left in the GOP, people who had the courage to tell a president of their own party that he had lost the support of the congress and should resign.

I hereby nominate David S Broder for Wanker of the Day.


Gravatarum... PoppieProng I'd Like to Fuck?

now i'm blushing...


The scary thing is that I thought of you *before* Parker Posey.


GravatarWhy most Americans agree with Unity08 here. The first five reasons would be settled by just electing Democratic candidates. No need for this unity08 business.


GravatarThis guy, Alex, Heywood, I wouldn't click through if I was promised a $100.

Aren't they all one in the same? The whole "NY Bathrooms" thing?


GravatarHow often do McCain and Lieberman have sex, is what I wanna know. Either with each other or with Dubya.

Well, today is Shabbat, so does that make it more or less likely for Holy Joe?


GravatarThe scary thing is that I thought of you *before* Parker Posey.
Eli | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:09 pm | #


You need to get that checked out, man.


GravatarThe people plugging Unity 08 are people like Nooners and Instawanker who can't admit that they got taken by in Bushism just as the Dems warned.


GravatarHow is that even remotely a good idea?

"Say, Billy - let's form a national association to discuss the esoteric intricacies of local organizations who have absolutely no impact on each other!"

"Great idea, Timmy!"

Though, I believe there is an international organization of Scotts. I never joined but it's nice to know we're thinking about each other.
Ripley




you funny; very!



GravatarAren't they all one in the same? The whole "NY Bathrooms" thing?

Alex has a bunch of identities and shitty blogs, but he is a distinct entity from Heywood and PoliShifter.


GravatarThat's an unfair and presumptive generalization! You don't know if she's married...

okay, that's true. i didn't see a ring. i wasn't really looking for one; i was distracted by the disproportionate boobs.

i don't know why fake boobs bother me so much. i suppose it's the whole "she didn't earn those on her own hard work" thing, which is just patently ridiculous. natural boobs aren't really "earned." i guess it's also about the idea of satisfying some asshole man who wants his wife to be something she isn't. or something.

okay, fine my wife had to go back to school and i'm dealing with it hard.


dammit.


GravatarThe scary thing is that I thought of you *before* Parker Posey.
===



Have we seen a picture of Poppie?


Gravatarome on, I'm always a ray of fucking sunshine.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler


I'd rather have that every day than treacle and molasses.

NTodd being sweet is too horrible to contemplate.



GravatarYou need to get that checked out, man.

Would you say that's more or less pressing than the fact that I have "Bananaphone" on a continuous loop &by choice*?


GravatarI sense a lack of integrity on your part, NTodd.

Yes, well at least I didn't post lewd comments about my daughter in order to smear poor old Jeffy...


Gravatarand i'm dealing with it hard.


Hey, your soap, your shower...


GravatarHow often do McCain and Lieberman have sex, is what I wanna know. Either with each other or with Dubya.


Oh, gack!


Botht the image and the idea for a party make me sick. What do you suppose they'd call their new party? The yellow stripe party? Or perhaps the slightly silly party?

I'd like to say think that the nauseating idea that people like McCain and Lieberman define some kind of center in America politics stems from the fact that we have fucked up politicians, but in truth I fear it stems from the fact that we have a lot of fucked up people in this country.


GravatarOkay, stupidest question ever.

"Was there any politics involved in doling out the counter terrorism dollars."

With a straight face, asshole says, no, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Asshole.


GravatarThe scary thing is that I thought of you *before* Parker Posey.
Eli | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:09 pm | #

You need to get that checked out, man.


yeah, seriously!


GravatarWell, Broder telegraphs what he thinks of it when he uses the word "scheme" to describe it.


GravatarAlex has a bunch of identities and shitty blogs, but he is a distinct entity from Heywood and PoliShifter.
Eli


*sigh*

I thought it was all the doing of the Hollywood Liberal...

Damn internets.


GravatarYou need to get that checked out, man.

yeah, seriously!


Oh, I'm checking *something* out, all right...


GravatarHey, your soap, your shower...

hahahaha! but soap can be very drying...


Gravatar
Oh, I'm checking *something* out, all right...


oh my...!


Gravatarjurassicpork is a regular and contributes to the community. These assholes are just whores.


GravatarI thought it was all the doing of the Hollywood Liberal...

I had almost forgotten about him. I wonder if someone politely asked him to stop in person.


GravatarNTodd being sweet is too horrible to contemplate.

Madam, that is one scenario about which you will never need to worry your pretty little head.


Gravatarjurassicpork is a regular and contributes to the community. These assholes are just whores.

Maybe it's a shift thing, but I very rarely see him talk about anything other than what's on his blog. Maybe 30-40% or so.


GravatarWould you say that's more or less pressing than the fact that I have "Bananaphone" on a continuous loop &by choice*?
Eli | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:11 pm | #
==

And now I have a continuous loop in my head. Not by choice. Thank. You. Very. Much. Eli.


GravatarWell, Broder telegraphs what he thinks of it when he uses the word "scheme" to describe it.

yeah, and he's not british, so he can't argue that.

my firm had a client a few years ago, before i was there, a brit, who used the word "scheme" in his correspondance a lot. the feds really wanted to use that as proof that he knew it was fraudulent.

i don't know how that case went....


GravatarThe people plugging Unity 08 are people like Nooners and Instawanker who can't admit that they got taken by in Bushism just as the Dems warned.
P O'Neill


I can't see either Nooners or the InstaParrot plugging Unity08.

Perhaps a Bull Moose would, if the DLC got the shiv in a CT primary. Unity08 sounds like the new DLC for the time when the DLC has lost its lustre.


Gravatarkay, stupidest question ever.

"Was there any politics involved in doling out the counter terrorism dollars."

With a straight face, asshole says, no, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Asshole.
ql in ny


O please! Even the Dallas Fucking Morning News had an editorial cartoon about that.

O no, it's not political. But if you vote Democrat, you can fucking drown or get blown up for all the Junta gives a shit.


GravatarSo in other words, since Bushco has destroyed the Rethug party and O'Limbo et al has so ruined the the idea of being a Democrat, we must start a new party that sounds like the Democratic party, but includes moderate Rethugs.

Good way to keep the crazies in power for a long time to come.


GravatarYou need to get that checked out, man.

Would you say that's more or less pressing than the fact that I have "Bananaphone" on a continuous loop &by choice*?
Eli | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:11 pm | #


I shudder to think that the two symptoms may have an underlying cause...


GravatarRakovsky—For money ? Nobody received a single Mark from Germany. Hitler has not enough money to buy, for example, the Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the USSR, who has at his disposal freely a budget which is greater than the total wealth of Morgan and Vanderbilt, and who does not have to account for his use of the money.
G.—Well, then for what reason?
Rakovsky—May I speak quite freely?
G.—Yes, I ask you to do so ; for that reason you have been invited.
Rakovsky—Did not Lenin have higher aims when he received help from Germany in order to enter Russia ? And is it necessary to accept as true those libellous inventions which had been circulated to accuse him ? Was he not also called a spy of the Kaiser ? His relations with the Emperor and the German intervention in the affair of the sending to Russia of the Bolshevik destroyers are quite clear.
G.—Whether it is true or not does not have any bearing on the present question.
Rakovsky—No, permit me to finish. Is it not a fact that the activity of Lenin was in the beginning advantageous to the German troops ? Permit me. . . There was the separate peace of Brest-Litovsk, at which huge territories of the USSR were ceded to Germany. Who had declared defeatism as a weapon of the Bolsheviks in 1913 ? Lenin. I know by heart his words from his letter to Gorky : “War between Austria and Russia would be a most useful thing for the revolution, but it is hardly possible that Francis-Joseph and Nicholas would present us with this opportunity.” As you see, we, the so-called Trotzkyists, the inventors of the defeat in 1905, continue at the present stage the same line, the line of Lenin.
G.—With a small difference, Rakovsky ; at present there is Socialism in the USSR, not the Tsar.
Rakovsky—You believe that ?
G.—What ?
Rakovsky—In the existence of Socialism in the USSR ?
G.—Is the Soviet Union not Socialist ?
Rakovsky—For me only in name. It is just here that we find the true reason for the opposition. Agree with me, and by the force of pure logic you must agree, that theoretically, rationally, we have the same right to say—no, as Stalin can say—yes. And if for the triumph of Communism defeatism can be justified, then he who considers that Communism has been destroyed by the bonapartism of Stalin and that he betrayed it, has the same right as Lenin to become a defeatist.===========
So what was this 'Broder' Guy saying again? Oh It was Bullshit.
Of Course it is!!
Duh..


GravatarAnd now I have a continuous loop in my head. Not by choice. Thank. You. Very. Much. Eli.

Hey, it's cellular, modular, *and* interactive-odular. Can't beat that.


GravatarAnd now I have a continuous loop in my head. Not by choice. Thank. You. Very. Much. Eli.

This will kill it


GravatarMan, am I incoherent this morning....


GravatarMaybe it's a shift thing, but I very rarely see him talk about anything other than what's on his blog. Maybe 30-40% or so.
Eli


Heywood used to frequently comment. As did many others. But life goes on...


GravatarThis will kill it

Already seen it, and have a natural immunity.


GravatarI can't see either Nooners or the InstaParrot plugging Unity08.

Nooner has lately been agitating for a third party or outsider.

She's oh so disappointed in Fredo.


GravatarI had almost forgotten about him. I wonder if someone politely asked him to stop in person.
Eli


I doubt the "polite" part of it.

Nobody here has the integrity of the guy that use to tell everyone to boycott Domino's (buckfush, if I'm not mistaken?).


GravatarAre you talking about Heywood from Hammer of the Blogs? I haven't seen him in ages but he's still posting some righteous rants.


GravatarHeywood used to frequently comment. As did many others. But life goes on...

Yeah, that was kinda my recollection as well. I haven't really seen him comment *or* spam here for a while.


GravatarHas anyone downloaded the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition widgit for their Mac's yet? While the rules are in jest, I noted that Bu$h and Company seems to take it quite seriously.

For example:
Rule #152 -- A lie is a way to tell the truth to some one that doesn't know better.
Rule #85 -- Never let the competition know what you're thinking.
Rule # 144 There's nothing wrong with charity...as long as it ends up in your pocket.
Rule #255 -- Always follow one step ahead of your competitors.
Rule #277 -- Anything worth fighting for is worth hiding from.
Rule #76 -- Every once in a while declare peace...it confuses the hell out of your enemies.
Rule #52 -- Never ask when you can take.
Rule #131 -- Information is profit.
Rule #196 -- Listen to advisors then do what you want anyway.
Rule #241 -- Never trust a hard working employee.
Rule #208 -- Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is the answer.
Rule #233 -- Employees are the rungs to the corporate ladder. Don't be afraid to step on them.


Gravatarhello.

OT: Baking question--we're gonna make cookies and the recipe calls for buttermilk or water. If I've got no buttermilk, wouldn't regular milk be better than water?


GravatarIs that an Edward Burne Jones Pre-Raphaelite stained glass window? It sure looks like it.
Tena



his parents were pre-pre-Raphaelites I think


GravatarI doubt the "polite" part of it.

Well, that part was perhaps a wee bit ironic.

Tire-ironic.


GravatarThis will kill it

Already seen it, and have a natural immunity.


well, you could watch Domino which is an interesting film, and makes a lot of use of the "doodoodooodoodoodoododoodooo... mothafucka" bit from Xzibit's song of the same name, and it will never leave your head.

Keira Nightley gets naked in it. or so it appears. but i think i read an interview where, no, it's actually a body double.


GravatarOT: Baking question--we're gonna make cookies and the recipe calls for buttermilk or water. If I've got no buttermilk, wouldn't regular milk be better than water?
whiskeyina, neo-subtle


I'd think so too but jeez.....


GravatarOT: Baking question--we're gonna make cookies and the recipe calls for buttermilk or water. If I've got no buttermilk, wouldn't regular milk be better than water?

Do you have any butterwater?


GravatarI had almost forgotten about him. I wonder if someone politely asked him to stop in person.
Eli
==

Don't forget "cuppajoe!" Vecchio.

JR - no go. The badgers are just chasing the bananaphone around the mushrooms now. It could be hopeless.


GravatarPerhaps a Bull Moose would, if the DLC got the shiv in a CT primary. Unity08 sounds like the new DLC for the time when the DLC has lost its lustre.
Tom - 大肚


Funny, that was my first thought as well. Lieberman is already planning ahead, as are the triangulators.


GravatarO'Limbo et al has so ruined the the idea of being a Democrat

Limbaugh is a druggie, why would anyone listen to his racist rants about democracy, drug abuse, War, or anything else? Hell the man couldn't even stand the sound of his own voice..his own brain had to shut off the clap trap of lies.

Think about his Truth Detector. Rush is saying he has a Piece of Metal in his head, A TIN Foil Hat of truth. The Only thing Rush did was feed the racist wackos projections. lies, for his own greedy self serving ass.


GravatarKeira Nightley gets naked in it. or so it appears. but i think i read an interview where, no, it's actually a body double.

Well, poop. Was that a double on the cover of Vanity Fair as well?


GravatarDo you have any butterwater?
Ripley | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:20 pm | #


No, but that's a good band name.


GravatarTire-ironic.
Eli


Well, I wouldn't go quite that far.


GravatarOT: Baking question--we're gonna make cookies and the recipe calls for buttermilk or water. If I've got no buttermilk, wouldn't regular milk be better than water?

that's weird. i would say so. you can also put some applecider vinegar in regular milk (i think that's right) to approximate the bitterness , or use yogurt. i wonder if its the acidity it wants. is water more acidic than regular milk?

but i don't really know.


GravatarDo you have any butterwater?
Ripley | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:20 pm | #

No, but that's a good band name.
whiskeyina, neo-subtle



also a good name for a ballad or epic poem


GravatarI think you're just threatened by anything that doesn't fit into the two-party mold because it would make the brand you've built less relevant. The truth is, there's a huge number of Americans (at least a third, probably more like a half) who don't fit in the R and D paradigm -- but because they're not the kind looking at "their side's" blogs every morning to learn what they think, it's natural that they would throw your compass off.


GravatarTheir hope is to harness the power of the Internet ... to mobilize the vast numbers of Americans who say they dislike their current political choices.

Unleash the power of APPLES!!! [/the simpsons]

I think the vast numbers outside the 28% who approve of Shit Midas will find someone outside the Republicult to their liking in '08.
.


GravatarWell, I wouldn't go quite that far.

For HL or Alex, I think I would.


Gravatarum, was the original idea by West Wing, or was it all the people that suggested Kerry choose McCain in 2004? (that woulda been horrible!)
PoppieProng, fka Seaxneat, fka | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 12:55 pm | #


it was biden. from his wiki profile:

Some thought Biden a possible running mate for presidential candidate John Kerry, but Biden urged Kerry to select Republican Senator John McCain.[9]

(i first saw this in a seperate congressional wiki, but now can't remember the name of.)


GravatarOT: Baking question--we're gonna make cookies and the recipe calls for buttermilk or water. If I've got no buttermilk, wouldn't regular milk be better than water?
whiskeyina, neo-subtle


Yes. But add butter.


GravatarWas that a double on the cover of Vanity Fair as well?

I don't see how that's possible.

And now I need to be alone for a coupla minutes.


GravatarPoppieProng--yogurt (cut with water) is an excellent suggestion, I think.

Anyone else weigh in before I go to the oven?


GravatarWell, poop. Was that a double on the cover of Vanity Fair as wel


prolly not. but think about the life of a body double? all these people saying "keira nightley is teh hawt and she gets nekkid in domino" and the body double rarely gets to say "um, actually those were my breasts that got you all hot and bothered."


GravatarNeo-cons =Trotzskyites


GravatarI think you're just threatened by anything that doesn't fit into the two-party mold because it would make the brand you've built less relevant. The truth is, there's a huge number of Americans (at least a third, probably more like a half) who don't fit in the R and D paradigm -- but because they're not the kind looking at "their side's" blogs every morning to learn what they think, it's natural that they would throw your compass off.

Oh, Reginald - I disagree !


Gravatarwhiskeyina - does the recipe use baking soda? If so, the acidic buttermilk is for interacting with that to leaven the cookies. Otherwiser it's just liquid, and you could pretty much use anything.


Gravatarum, was the original idea by West Wing, or was it all the people that suggested Kerry choose McCain in 2004? (that woulda been horrible!)
PoppieProng, fka Seaxneat, fka | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 12:55 pm | #

it was biden.


Wow. What a shock. No, seriously, I am just reeling with surprise.


GravatarAdd a little vinegar to regular milk. Used to make chocolate cupcakes that way - very yummy.


GravatarPoppieProng--yogurt (cut with water) is an excellent suggestion, I think.

my pleasure!


Gravataralso a good name for a ballad or epic poem
earl 'cliche' guevera | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:22 pm | #


About a "butterfly" who "drowns."


GravatarNtodd: mail you have.


Gravatarvanity fair should have dumped everybody else and put gore on the cover.

damn you, clooney! (shakes fist)


Gravatarit was biden.

Wow. What a shock. No, seriously, I am just reeling with surprise.


biden is a weird "muthafucka."

(told you it'd stick! i saw that movie like 3 weeks ago!)


Gravatarwhiskeyina - No!

You can approximate buttermilk by adding vinegar to whole milk and letting it clabber.


GravatarI think you're just threatened by anything that doesn't fit into the two-party mold because it would make the brand you've built less relevant.

You're wrong. And a poopyhead.


Gravatarprolly not. but think about the life of a body double? all these people saying "keira nightley is teh hawt and she gets nekkid in domino" and the body double rarely gets to say "um, actually those were my breasts that got you all hot and bothered."

I'm thinking that any shallow guy with any sense at all (I know, contradiction in terms) would be all about trying to date the body doubles.


GravatarIf I've got no buttermilk, wouldn't regular milk be better than water?
whiskeyina, neo-subtle |


Better Homes and Garden lists as substitute - 1 TBSP lemon juice or vinegar plus sweet milk (the kind in a can) to make one c. buttermilk


Gravatarwhiskey - to make sour dough pancakes i add some vinegar to milk. Works well. I think the yogurt would as well.


Gravatarwhiskey - to make sour dough pancakes i add some vinegar to milk. Works well. I think the yogurt would as well.


GravatarJR - no go. The badgers are just chasing the bananaphone around the mushrooms now. It could be hopeless.
mena


Well, maybe this will distract you...


Gravatarprolly not. but think about the life of a body double? all these people saying "keira nightley is teh hawt and she gets nekkid in domino" and the body double rarely gets to say "um, actually those were my breasts that got you all hot and bothered."

Jen Connelly has a nice nude scene in Inventing the Abbots. And when I say 'nice', I mean niiiiiice.

I also need to be alone for a few minutes. Not with NTodd...


Gravatarvanity fair should have dumped everybody else and put gore on the cover.

Much as I want him to run, I really don't want to see him naked.

Although if they used Keira Knightley's body double, the effect would be... interesting, to say the least.


GravatarAbout a "butterfly" who "drowns."
whiskeyina, neo-subtle



oh yes. very cool.

"Butterwater light and dry
shining through the midnight sky
fell to earth we know not how...


GravatarDisco Stu - ACK.


GravatarTheir hope is to harness the power of the Internet ... to mobilize the vast numbers of Americans who say they dislike their current political choices.

The people have been turning away from the Corporate Media, when this happens they lose the fear factor, Crisis management loses it's Luster, lies are much harder to tell, and wars harder to foment.

Bush The Industrial Policy President


GravatarJen Connelly has a nice nude scene in Inventing the Abbots. And when I say 'nice', I mean niiiiiice.

I also need to be alone for a few minutes. Not with NTodd...


hahahahaah!


GravatarThanks mena & Lindsay, too. And now I'm off to experiment in cookietown.


GravatarAlthough if they used Keira Knightley's body double, the effect would be... interesting, to say the least.
Eli


An Inconvenient *truth*


GravatarYeah, that was kinda my recollection as well. I haven't really seen him comment *or* spam here for a while.

seems to me that Atrios is perfectly capable of deciding who should or shouldn't post here. After all, it's his blog.


GravatarYou know, there's a word I really like that one doesn't get to use that often - clabber.

It's really a cool word, IMO.



GravatarErgo Limit the Internet and force the people to watch their 'News'


GravatarSo, I may be in the minority here, but I think adding vinegar to milk is the way to go.

Call me crazy!


GravatarNooner has lately been agitating for a third party or outsider.

She's oh so disappointed in Fredo.
res ipsa loquitur


But given the love of the Reagan Revolution, I'm not seeing Angus or Ham Jerrrrrrr-dun as her knights templar.


GravatarYou can approximate buttermilk by adding vinegar to whole milk and letting it clabber.

Better clabber while the clabbering's good. Come Monday, we're all living in Jeebustown and clabbering is verboten!

What?


Gravatar
Although if they used Keira Knightley's body double, the effect would be... interesting, to say the least.


hahahaha! big ol' Gore head, with teeny little (kinda should prolly eat a sammich ) "Keira Knightley"'s body....


GravatarSo, I may be in the minority here, but I think adding vinegar to milk is the way to go.

Blechhh
Vinegar?
I have to ask.
Why?


Gravatarprolly not. but think about the life of a body double? all these people saying "keira nightley is teh hawt and she gets nekkid in domino" and the body double rarely gets to say "um, actually those were my breasts that got you all hot and bothered."


I think Keira Knightley is probably not especially shy about her boobs, it's just that, as in the case of some other actresses with teh hot faces, like Jessica Alba and Isabelle Adjani, they're probably no great shakes. You can't always have everything. Talent, a stunning face, and great hooters too is a pretty rare package.


GravatarWhiskeyina, you could try milking sticks of butter. But you'd better sandpaper your fingers and palm first, and pull very slowly.


GravatarTena - there used to be a Clabber Girl brand of baking powder. Don't know if it still exists.


GravatarAnd now I'm off to experiment in cookietown.


won't you take me to... cookietown?


Gravatardamm clabber-ators!


Gravatar"Butterwater light and dry
shining through the midnight sky
fell to earth we know not how...
earl 'cliche' guevera | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:26 pm | #


Beautiful.

And thanks everyone else for cookie tips. Here I go...


GravatarSo, I may be in the minority here, but I think adding vinegar to milk is the way to go.

Call me crazy!
rorschach



my ex wife belonged to the 'church of holy apple cider vinegar' as popularized in the long out of print 'vermont folk medicine'


GravatarI think Keira Knightley is probably not especially shy about her boobs, it's just that, as in the case of some other actresses with teh hot faces, like Jessica Alba and Isabelle Adjani, they're probably no great shakes. You can't always have everything. Talent, a stunning face, and great hooters too is a pretty rare package.

Yeah, and the guys with teh hot faces and bods probably have really tiny dicks.


GravatarTena - there used to be a Clabber Girl brand of baking powder. Don't know if it still exists.

my god! that's where the name comes from? yes, it still exists!


GravatarWell people come and go, too, watertiger.

It's not a question of Atrios banning people, necessarily.

A number of people have come and gone while I've sat here growing barnacles on my rear.

Copernicus used to comment all the time and doesn't anymore, unless he switched names. (I think he was a he.)

Backslider - though I'm told the dude abides.

Cheryl - who was chased off when someone finally let her have it for her comment style. I always felt badly about that.

and so on...


GravatarTalent, a stunning face, and great hooters too is a pretty rare package.

Ahh, those were the days. And look at me now...


What...??


GravatarYeah, and the guys with teh hot faces and bods probably have really tiny dicks.

most likely. i bet brad pitt, is like a 3. for sure.


GravatarTena - there used to be a Clabber Girl brand of baking powder. Don't know if it still exists.
Lindsay


absolutely. I buy it sometimes.


GravatarYeah, and the guys with teh hot faces and bods probably have really tiny dicks.

Only in cold air or water =)


GravatarWell people come and go, too, watertiger.

Not the point I was making.


GravatarYou can approximate buttermilk by adding vinegar to whole milk and letting it clabber.

I think lemon juice in milk will work, too.


GravatarThe of course the Turtle effect takes over...


GravatarWhiskeyina, you could try milking sticks of butter. But you'd better sandpaper your fingers and palm first, and pull very slowly.

"I have nipples, Greg. Could you milk me?"

That part just KILLS me...


GravatarI also need to be alone for a few minutes. Not with NTodd...

Thank you for clarifying.

And now I gotta be alone again with my thoughts of Jennifer...


GravatarQuick shot.

If you're going to have a 3rd party(getting back to 2 first would be nice), it should be something that stands out rather than some slapdash, watered-down BS.


GravatarI think you're just threatened by anything that doesn't fit into the two-party mold because it would make the brand you've built less relevant.


Ha. Ha.

I think the reality around here is more like most of us are just barely able to buy into the Democrat brand, because of all their incessant waffling and kowtowing to the wingnuts. A party between the mostly wishy-washy Democrats we've got and the thoroughly evil Republicans is therefore even more distasteful.


Gravatarwatertiger,

simels appears to be mia, so I don't think today is going to happen.


GravatarWGG:

Thanks for the great list of resource links!

Do you know off the top of your head if there is a site that lists rebuttals to conservative talking points and issues?


GravatarWGG:

Thanks for the great list of resource links!

Do you know off the top of your head if there is a site that lists rebuttals to conservative talking points and issues?


GravatarI'm thinking that any shallow guy with any sense at all (I know, contradiction in terms) would be all about trying to date the body doubles.



GravatarDoes the chicken invite the fox into the henhouse, or wherever it is that the chicken is residing at the time?


GravatarI couldn't believe it.

I was at "Crazy Days" in North St. Paul last night and I saw a guy wearing a shirt that said, "I'm Shy...But I've Got A Big Dick -- Cancun".

I then threw up.

I've gotta go to a wedding reception.

Later!


Gravatarthere used to be a Clabber Girl brand of baking powder. Don't know if it still exists.
Lindsay |

I have some in my cupboard now!


GravatarYou can approximate buttermilk by adding vinegar to whole milk and letting it clabber.

I think lemon juice in milk will work, too.


And I can tell you, from experience, that Everclear will definitely curdle milk. So, if you want some really special cookies...


GravatarI think you're just threatened by anything that doesn't fit into the two-party mold because it would make the brand you've built less relevant.

hey,
we built this brand on rock and roll...


GravatarAnd now I gotta be alone again with my thoughts of Jennifer...

not for long...

Turdblossom is like a chocolate starfish.

Ack ekkkkk,,Ptoooh Ptooh!


GravatarCall me crazy!

Well, you speak for me, so...YOU'RE CRAZY!


Gravatar"I have nipples, Greg. Could you milk me?"

That part just KILLS me...


that part was hilarious!


Gravatarres,

no worries. i have plenty to do - fights next week.


GravatarGood Gad!

"King suggested to me that if such a mechanism had been in place in 2000, Colin Powell might have run for president as an independent and been elected."

In 2006 after all that we know about powell this moron says he could have been prez.

I bet nader has found a new home.


GravatarHarness the power of the Internet? by a bunch of people who have no presence on knowledge of the Internet???????????????????????

You are right, a bunch of has beens.

Hamilton Jordon kinda fell off the tracks with Ross Perot.


GravatarCome to think of it, Bush does look Ferengi...


Gravatar And now I gotta be alone again with my thoughts of Jennifer...

not for long...


Indeed not! Now I feel better.


GravatarBackslider - though I'm told the dude abides.

I have missed his unique wisdom on the late night threads -- where'd he go?


GravatarTena - there used to be a Clabber Girl brand of baking powder. Don't know if it still exists.
==

Yes. It's what I've always used. Lovely old-fashioned label illustration.


Yes! Cheryl! When I first started reading here, she was a regular. She always seemed like she was trying to say good things from a good heart, but it wasn't easy to tell for sure because of the typos and generally fractured grammar. I dind't know she'd been run off. How sad.


GravatarActually, Ripley, I don't think Everclear will. You need an acid to curdle milk. And while Everclear may be acid-like in its corrosive properties, I don't think it will curdle milk.

You do sound like a barrel 'o laughs, though, sweetie.


Gravatar"I think you're just threatened by anything that doesn't fit into the two-party mold because it would make the brand you've built less relevant."

I think the real fear factor is the repug loss. Otherwise, there would never-ever be mention of Dem/Repug ticket. IMHO, it will NEVER work and cause mass uproar.


GravatarYeah, and the guys with teh hot faces and bods probably have really tiny dicks.
watertiger



Everyday I thank god for being both underendowed and plain as hell. no wait, that's not what I meant.....


Gravatarwhat I have learned today:


adding vinegar to milky hooters will create a post-two party political system.


GravatarLemon juice will work - just the acidic quality to clabber the milk and to give that tang in the end product that buttermilk does.

Someone upthread was saying ewww - why vinegar?

Because cooking is alchemy, my dear.



GravatarCome to think of it, Bush does look Ferengi...

Acts like one too.
Here we are on spaceship earth, going in circles, nowhere really, and these fools want to take the ship apart and sell the pieces.

Kinda like sawing a hole thru the floor, while standing in the center of the circle your cutting, its crazy!!


Gravatar"...Colin Powell might have run for president as an independent..."

HadEnough, sorry to pass the word on to you so late in the game, but Powell dismissed that long ago...about 2000 I believe. Said he didn't want to submit his familiy to a public inspection by the media.


GravatarClabber Girl Baking Powder.

Clabber Girl appears to be manufactured by the same folks who make Davis, which is one of the only baking powders sold here. So I wonder if this is the same formulation, just different regional marketing.
#


GravatarActually, Ripley, I don't think Everclear will. You need an acid to curdle milk. And while Everclear may be acid-like in its corrosive properties, I don't think it will curdle milk.

You do sound like a barrel 'o laughs, though, sweetie.


Well, I can't claim to know the physics or chemistry involved but I mixed the two in high school and it was pretty damned lumpy milk. (Um, not actually at the high school - when I was that age, I mean)

I guess I'd have to say, now, that... it was a MIRACLE !!! God be praised!

Dang, I should have kept it for an eBay auction, though. Doh!


GravatarAnd while Everclear may be acid-like in its corrosive properties, I don't think it will curdle milk.


Actually, the curdling has to do with the denaturation of casein, which reduces its solubility in water. Alcohol, if you put in enough of it, can also denature proteins, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if it could curdle milk.


GravatarSorry about the tags.

It's raining chats et chiens here, at the moment.

Which is not why I cocked up the tags.


Gravatar Yeah, and the guys with teh hot faces and bods probably have really tiny dicks.

I think we might be able to test that theory at EschaToo.


GravatarDid you DRINK it after you mixed it, Ripley?

That must have been, um, interesting.


Gravatar...because of the typos and generally fractured grammar. I dind't know she'd been run off.

these things get you run off?

rut roh


GravatarBecause cooking is alchemy, my dear.


Tena | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:37 pm | #


Aha! Tena is, as I always suspected, short for Hermes Trismegistus!


Gravatar"...Colin Powell might have run for president as an independent..."

HadEnough, sorry to pass the word on to you so late in the game, but Powell dismissed that long ago...about 2000 I believe. Said he didn't want to submit his familiy to a public inspection by the media.
Anonymous



or the mobile 'labs'


GravatarI think the real fear factor is the repug loss.

I think this is correct. Seems like genuine conservatives (not those involved in politics) are scared to death of the nutso right.


GravatarYeah, and the guys with teh hot faces and bods probably have really tiny dicks.


Who among us doubts that Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt both play piccolo?


Gravatarwassup? I got five minutes to hang.


GravatarActually, the curdling has to do with the denaturation of casein, which reduces its solubility in water. Alcohol, if you put in enough of it, can also denature proteins, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if it could curdle milk.

Now, see, that's something that you just wouldn't ever expect to read on a political blog. Damn, I love the internets!


GravatarColin Powell might have run for president as an independent..."

not a chance after he went on stage and became a toady for the Neo-Cons.

I think he was a good man, gone wrong, yet his political chance at becoming Presidense is, to me, Nil.


GravatarJust a matter of time before Lieberman is on the Unity08 ticket.

Bet on it.


GravatarYeah, and the guys with teh hot faces and bods probably have really tiny dicks.

I think we might be able to test that theory at EschaToo.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:38 pm | #


And once again, I shall be found to have teh least hot face and bod...

heh.


GravatarWhich is not why I cocked up the tags.

Why did you cock up the tags? Thinking about that hummer you have to give to Clinton?


GravatarHmm. I don't remember Cheryl, maybe before my time.


GravatarYes! Cheryl! When I first started reading here, she was a regular. She always seemed like she was trying to say good things from a good heart, but it wasn't easy to tell for sure because of the typos and generally fractured grammar. I dind't know she'd been run off. How sad.

Yeah, I couldn't' quite figure out why her writing was so disjointed - it was consistently so to the point where I thought there might be something going on that wasn't just typing fast or whatever. She was also a Naderite, and I think that also was a factor, but one day one of the guys turned around and said something like: Goddamn it, Cheryl, if you'd write something we could understand you might have a point. or something like that and she just left.

Pansypoo, also. He/she showed up at First Draft and is a regular there.


GravatarWT - I'm not telling Atrios how to run his site. Seems to me he does a fine job. i don't mind regulars whoring their sites, in fact I rather enjoy it. But people who are trying to piggyback on Atrios, without contibuting anything, kind of rub me the wrong way. that's all. Certainly didn't mean to open a can of worms.


Gravatarmena -

Were you another name before you were mena?


GravatarAnd once again, I shall be found to have teh least hot face and bod...

Oh, so THAT'S what you use to stir the soup...


GravatarHiya Jenny!!

.


GravatarAlcohol, if you put in enough of it, can also denature proteins, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if it could curdle milk.

It can.

Nastiest shot ever: Cement mixer.

You do NOT want to know.


GravatarBetter clabber while the clabbering's good. Come Monday, we're all living in Jeebustown and clabbering is verboten!

It's Clabberin' Time!!!


GravatarThat must have been, um, interesting.
res ipsa loquitur


Ever tried kumis?

yech


Gravatarhi Jenny hows it goin?


GravatarThat must have been, um, interesting.
res ipsa loquitur


Ever tried kumis?

yech


Gravatar Did you DRINK it after you mixed it, Ripley?

That must have been, um, interesting.


Holy. freaking. God, no!! I don't like milk, as it is. We were washing the Everclear down with Pepsi, mostly. Ah, Youth...


Gravatar"wassup? I got five minutes to hang.
Jenny from the Blog "

Repugs are trying to throw out a Dem/Repug Pres ticket. Word is they want to promote a H. Clinton/McCain ticket. They are blinded by fear at the moment really.


GravatarNot long ago, the Repukes were calling for the destruction of all libruls and the burning of all librul books. Now that they're clinging to power by their fucking fingernails, they wanna play nice?

Fuhgedaboudit!


Gravatarwassup? I got five minutes to hang.
Jenny from the Blog •

I can breathe again cos my kid graduated on time! It was this ___ close!!!


Gravatarone day one of the guys turned around and said something like: Goddamn it, Cheryl, if you'd write something we could understand you might have a point.

And for the record, it wasn't NTodd The Fucking Bully.


Gravatar{ { { KENT } } }

{ { { EARL } } }

and everyone to the left and right of you!


GravatarCertainly didn't mean to open a can of worms.

QL, step away from that can-opener, slowly.

.


GravatarWord is they want to promote a H. Clinton/McCain ticket.

Goddammit! Now I have to go clean the puke off my shirt. Thanks a lot!


GravatarI think this is correct. Seems like genuine conservatives (not those involved in politics) are scared to death of the nutso right.

my boss. he hates the neocons. he's a conservative, but at least we can get along on that point.

it's kinda weird that he's a conservative, being a crim defense attorney.


GravatarCheck this news out.

http://www.comcast.net/news/inde...& cvqh=itn_girl9


GravatarI can breathe again cos my kid graduated on time! It was this ___ close!!!
footloose


Hey congrats. I never went to my graduation - told them to send me the piece of paper.....


Gravatarpeople who are trying to piggyback on Atrios, without contibuting anything, kind of rub me the wrong way.

That's where I'm coming from, too. Whoring is good, when it comes from people who contribute in general. Hell, even at dKos I try not to just be a whore--mostly because there's not much money in it since they're all cheap fuckers who give their money to the DNC instead of putting it on my nightstand.


GravatarYeah, I couldn't' quite figure out why her writing was so disjointed - it was consistently so to the point where I thought there might be something going on that wasn't just typing fast or whatever.
==

Yep. She always seemed to be writing from the depths of some emotional turmoil, too, like she was steps away from needing some outside help. I hope she's okay.



Jenny - nope. Just mena.


GravatarBut people who are trying to piggyback on Atrios, without contibuting anything.


Ok OK I Admot it!
I'll fess up!
just dont waterboard me!

I don't have any blogs going at this time,
damm.


GravatarThe rather hot James Blake is about to start playing at Roland Garros. It's on NBC.


GravatarPP -

Repugs are trying to throw out a Dem/Repug Pres ticket. Word is they want to promote a H. Clinton/McCain ticket.

Okay, that's my first laugh of the morning.


GravatarHi Jenny! No need to worry about your "vehement disagreement" yesterday, silly.

*mwah*


GravatarWT - I'm not telling Atrios how to run his site. Seems to me he does a fine job. i don't mind regulars whoring their sites, in fact I rather enjoy it. But people who are trying to piggyback on Atrios, without contibuting anything, kind of rub me the wrong way. that's all. Certainly didn't mean to open a can of worms.

I agree with you. A certain amount of that wouldn't bother me, but there are people who are just advertising here. And for free and that bugs me, too. A lot.


GravatarWord is they want to promote a H. Clinton/McCain ticket.


Ten More Wars!
Ten More Wars!
Ten More Wars!


GravatarAnd once again, I shall be found to have teh least hot face and bod...

heh.


i dunno about that.


GravatarEveryday I thank god for being both underendowed and plain as hell. no wait, that's not what I meant.....

I'm pretty much average in every way. I mean, why take chances?


GravatarCheryl may be lurking, you never know. The people who comment here are quick-thinkers who can create a conversation on the fly. The rest of us have more difficulty with that, though I like to just watch the comments fly by. For some reason, I often find it hard to think fast enough to respond to the current train of thought that is whipping along.


GravatarJenny - nope. Just mena.

Liar! Sometimes you went by 'mean'. Well, when I typed it, anyway...


GravatarJenny from the Blog • |

Yeah, yesterday kids were crying and hugging teachers and each other big time. I remember thinkin' 'Get me outta here!'


Gravatarforgot to add, "toby hangs out here a lot."

is that damning with faint praise, though?


Gravatareven at dKos I try not to just be a whore--mostly because there's not much money in it since they're all cheap fuckers who give their money to the DNC instead of putting it on my nightstand.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler


What's Las Vegas gonna think???


Gravatarpeople who are trying to piggyback on Atrios, without contibuting anything, kind of rub me the wrong way.

D'oh!


GravatarNTodd -

Why is it I can comment at your blog but not at TKK's or NYMary's. Aren't they all blogger?


GravatarI remember thinkin' 'Get me outta here!'
footloose


hee hee!


Gravatarprobeably. i a lot of you dont;remmembver me. byt ralph nadear is the guy for o4.


GravatarI often find it hard to think fast enough to respond to the current train of thought that is whipping along

We have a train of thought? I always perceived it as a stream of consciousness.


GravatarWT - I'm not telling Atrios how to run his site. Seems to me he does a fine job. i don't mind regulars whoring their sites, in fact I rather enjoy it. But people who are trying to piggyback on Atrios, without contibuting anything, kind of rub me the wrong way. that's all. Certainly didn't mean to open a can of worms.

Yah, I don't expect Atrios to ban anyone for spamming, unless it's continuous or disruptive. I would just relish the opportunity to kick Alex's ass, is all.


GravatarIt seems the "if two men get married my marriage will suffer" crowd is back. Fuck them! And go James Blake. Andy who?


GravatarNot long ago, the Repukes were calling for the destruction of all libruls and the burning of all librul books. Now that they're clinging to power by their fucking fingernails, they wanna play nice?
==

Absofuckinlutely right. To hell with them.


Hey congrats. I never went to my graduation - told them to send me the piece of paper.....
==


Me too!


GravatarNTodd --

Hey, my real name is all over one of the threads at your place the long one where the insane people are flinging it about. Could you at least cut those refs, and shut down that thread?

I wouldn't ask but NYM read that this morning and was pretty upset.

I do enjoy that they say I was never anonymous but that now I can't be anonymous and be mean to people anymore. And I'm amazed at how they seem to think they are helping their cause by what they are saying...

Thanks, ami.


Gravatar"Okay, that's my first laugh of the morning.
Jenny from the Blog "

Yeah, well I cough up my coffee when I heard it on MSNBC, then here we have this thread. You know, if these things don't prove the press is a whore I don't know what else would.


GravatarWhy is it I can comment at your blog but not at TKK's or NYMary's. Aren't they all blogger?

They're on Blogger, but I'm on Typepad, which is far superior, 'cept when it isn't. And it's more costly.


GravatarWe have a train of thought? I always perceived it as a stream of consciousness.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:47 pm | #


More of an unfortunate series of events, oftentimes.


GravatarNTodd -

* mwah * !

okay, that's my dose of treacle for the morning. And oh my, look at the time.

Laterzzzzzz!


GravatarI'm pretty much average in every way. I mean, why take chances?
Eli


You are not average!

You are tremendously above average. Everyone loves you and you have many, many friends.

None of my little bubbulas are average!


GravatarWhy is it I can comment at your blog but not at TKK's or NYMary's. Aren't they all blogger?

Todds not on blogger, though if you choose the anonymouse profile, you should be able to comment on Mary's and TKK's place.

.


GravatarWe have a train of thought? I always perceived it as a stream of consciousness.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:47 pm | #


Actually, I think that's a better way to describe it. It's kind of like a train that whips by, though, and leaves the rest of us standing there on the platform.


GravatarI'm pretty much average in every way. I mean, why take chances?
Eli


brainstorm:

Dr. Zach Methlids Clinic now announces the
WHY TAKE CHANCES restructuring program:
with 5 easy plastic surgery session you will never ever disappoint anyone again!


GravatarI was just thinking...

The Democratic Party of today is light years away from Roosevelt's party,

and the Republican Party is light year's away from Eisenhower's party.

The sad thing is that the movement of both parties has been to the right.

How did that happen?


GravatarHey, my real name is all over one of the threads at your place the long one where the insane people are flinging it about. Could you at least cut those refs, and shut down that thread?

Oh yeah, no prob. I'll go edit and close comments. Thanks for the headsup--I've been ignoring it since this AM (it's value to me has been the traffic generation alone).


Gravatar
Yeah, yesterday kids were crying and hugging teachers and each other big time. I remember thinkin' 'Get me outta here!'


I was reminded this morning, for some reason, of a graduation I went to with the last g/friend. They asked people not to applaud as the kids rec'd their diplomas, which is pretty standard, I guess.

So, the entire graduating class would clap once, in unison, as each kid's name was called, and they kept it up for the entire class. It was kind of moving, really...


GravatarThey're on Blogger, but I'm on Typepad, which is far superior, 'cept when it isn't. And it's more costly.

Oh I get it. And I refuse to call you 'worse than hitler'. Waiting for you to be 'slow hand' again.


Gravataroops. I was 'cheryl' earlier for one post.
'forgot to change back.


GravatarTake the politics out of politics and give us a dictator -- what a great idea.


Gravatarql,

as far as I knew, polishifter has commented here. not everybody is glued to his or her computer 24/7/365, waiting to make pithy comments.


GravatarOnly web site I created, for a Business, has nothing to do with politics, but if you know anyone that needs free drugs
see the site

OxycodoneforLimbaugh.com


[Kidding]


GravatarWhy is it I can comment at your blog but not at TKK's or NYMary's. Aren't they all blogger?

NYM is going to be shutting down for a bit, sad to say. Some of the late insanity is getting to her.


GravatarI often find it hard to think fast enough to respond to the current train of thought that is whipping along
=


I always feel like a microbus trying to merge onto the Autobahn.


Gravataryou know what i don't like? christian people who take songs from other religions and make them all christian. like these people outside the cafe, smoking and singing about jesus and then saying "it's that 'hare hare krishna' song, you know?"


Gravatar
Oh yeah, no prob. I'll go edit and close comments. Thanks for the headsup--I've been ignoring it since this AM (it's value to me has been the traffic generation alone).


Thanks.


GravatarI do enjoy that they say I was never anonymous but that now I can't be anonymous and be mean to people anymore. And I'm amazed at how they seem to think they are helping their cause by what they are saying...

Thanks, ami.
Thers


Hey, if ya need a hatchetman with plenty of Bloginflutie, ya know where to turn.

And after wading through a few days ago, I did the post on connecting their arrogance and ignorance with the downfall of the Busheviks. (and thanks ql for the comment reminding me of SD and the abortion vote.)


Gravatart's value to me has been the traffic generation alone).

I certainly hope you're kidding.


Gravatar"...because of the typos and generally fractured grammar. I dind't know she'd been run off. "

There are times when I have found some of the "regulars" to be as vulgar as a repug. I'm hiding behind anonoymous because of the NSA spying and my location, but I've had my share of grief.

There's definitely been a change in people's tempers in the last year...they're getting short and abrupt. But every once in a while someone does read my posts and respond so not all is lost.


GravatarMe too!
mena


Me three. Hopped on a plane to San Francisco the day after the last day of classes. Couldn't wait to get the fuck out. All girl school. 3000 of us at a time when girls were not allowed to wear slacks in NYC schools. Sucked big time.


GravatarThe sad thing is that the movement of both parties has been to the right.

How did that happen?
Diane


the Titanic is tilting!


Gravatar UNE Unlettered Pollyanalyst™ | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:48 pm

and pray, sir, who is this "Polly" you're analyzing?

paradigm, please...



GravatarThers,

You are right. I am rotten.


GravatarThe sad thing is that the movement of both parties has been to the right.

How did that happen?

Materialism mostly and $$$


GravatarNYM is going to be shutting down for a bit, sad to say. Some of the late insanity is getting to her.
Thers


That post of hers on the band from Malaysia was very cool though. Confirmed my suspicion that ketchup's etymology is Cantonese.


GravatarI was reminded this morning, for some reason, of a graduation I went to with the last g/friend. They asked people not to applaud as the kids rec'd their diplomas, which is pretty standard, I guess.

So, the entire graduating class would clap once, in unison, as each kid's name was called, and they kept it up for the entire class. It was kind of moving, really...


that's what's really interesting to me. that seems to be a tradition across the board. it happens in houston, in austin, in portland, maine, in bloomington, indiana... so weird that there are certain things that are like, pancultural...


Gravatarpretty american. or russian. or chinese. hey wait, its pluralistic.


GravatarYou are not average!

You are tremendously above average. Everyone loves you and you have many, many friends.


Have you met Uncle Smokes' mom?


Gravatarsmoking and singing about jesus and then saying "it's that 'hare hare krishna' song, you know?"
PoppieProng, fka Seaxneat, fka



jesus christus
jesus christus
jesus christus
jesus christus


GravatarEconomic security is National Security

ergo we now have an unspoken

'Industrial Policy'


GravatarHow did that happen?
Diane | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:49 pm |


Satanic confluence of certain natural tendencies on the part of all of the entrenched (cf Lenin the party is to the right of the people and the committee is to the right of the party) together with a very deliberate and given eyes to see painfully obvious effort.


GravatarHave you met Uncle Smokes' mom?
Eli


Oy! That yenta cheats at maj jong. She tries to distract us by bragging about him. If she thinks I don't notice, she's got another thing coming!


GravatarThere are times when I have found some of the "regulars" to be as vulgar as a repug.

Not me, I hope...

I'm hiding behind anonoymous because of the NSA spying and my location, but I've had my share of grief.

He's commenting... from Inside the HOUSE !!


GravatarYou will die, wingnuts, 'cause your mothers' milk contained a poisonous ingredient called hate, or maybe intolerance. Anyway, it will lead to a slow, agonizing death, which the world will applaud or maybe cheer.


GravatarNYM is going to be shutting down for a bit, sad to say. Some of the late insanity is getting to her.

All those tossers picking on a woman who just had a baby can kiss my ass one cheek at a time. Wow! How tough you must be. You wanna fight, you little pussies? Fight me! I've got all the time in the fucking world and that damned "I Wanna Love You Tender" song in my head, so I'm pretty pissed already. I'm not as nice as Thers or NYMary. I'll make you cry like a little girl and then I'll really go to work on you. Atrios, please feel free to pull this comment if neccessary, but I think it's time to start putting these bullies in their place.


GravatarNYM is going to be shutting down for a bit, sad to say. Some of the late insanity is getting to her.
==


I hope not for long. But I hope more that Mary's OK.


GravatarHey, cool! I just learned that an MSN search for "rorchach + transgender" produces No Capital as the first hit!

I have arrived.


GravatarI always perceived it as a stream of consciousness.
NTodd,


Well, a stream of *something*, anyway.


GravatarNYM is going to be shutting down for a bit, sad to say. Some of the late insanity is getting to her.
Thers


I find it incredibly offensive that anyone's trying to keep it going.


Gravatar
jesus christus
jesus christus
jesus christus
jesus christus


it wasn't even that interesting. it was like "sweet lord, i worship you blah blah blah." truth be told, it sounded in no way like the hare krishna song, but whatever.


Gravatarhare krishna

The Inherent Knowledge

Active Intelligence the Rabbis Called it.

The Rosicrcucians called it the path of initiation.

Basically its sumerian and comes from the persian Bhagavatam


Gravatar"How did that happen?
Diane "

Talking Points. I've been reflecting on the same things. Why is it that the dirty old Librul party wants to close down this big govmint and control spending, etc.? It's all in the perception of the talking points. I don't think the masses have changed, just the political figures.


GravatarWasn't it Cheryl who posted a few decidedly unusual comments about L. Paul "Jerry" Bremer after he was recalled as Viceroy to Iraq? It might've been when he was awarded the Medal of Freedom.

I'm almost sure it was her. The odd aspect is that she wrote in passionate high dudgeon that nobody really understood the anguish Jerry went through, because he had a genuine sense of high purpose and really hoped to rescue a bad situation.

I'm obviously distilling her drift into coherent paraphrases to the best of my recollection. And IIRC, although her perspective, such as it was, suggested an actual personal relationship or connection with the man, she didn't explain how she was in a position to provide such an inside scoop.

If it was Cheryl, she blew off like a tumbleweed in a windstorm shortly afterwards.


Gravatarand pray, sir, who is this "Polly" you're analyzing?

paradigm, please...


Something about unbridled optimisitude, I think.....


.


GravatarYou wanna fight, you little pussies? Fight me!


this totally makes me think of Saturday Morning Kung Fu! (where o where did that go?)


GravatarI find it incredibly offensive that anyone's trying to keep it going.
watertiger


Have you ever read any of the accounts of how the Red Guards spiraled out of control during the Cultural Revolution??? This is exactly what Davey Horowitz has in mind.


Gravatarfuck that. the only third party i'd be interested in is,

The Anti Republican Party.

republicans are enemies of the state, which they have proven in every presidency they've had in my lifetime. except maybe ford, and even he let that bastard nixon off the hook.

republican = criminal


GravatarSorry to go OT(it'll never happen again!), but I love the self-serving idea that Chimpy didn't know about Haditha (there is already evidence he did know. Maybe he just forgot!)

So, the chain of command failed W. Poor W. Doesn't anybody love him enough to do their jobs? And this isn't his fault because, hey, he's Ken Lay! He just runs the place! He just sleeps in the White House! It's the underlings who are actually responsible, not him!

Or, the chain of command didn't fail, and Chimpy's a liar.

Wow. Hobson's choice, huh?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarI refuse to call you 'worse than hitler'. Waiting for you to be 'slow hand' again.

I'm getting there.

I find it incredibly offensive that anyone's trying to keep it going.

It's fucking incredible. Goddamned zombie assholes.

And BTW, I have edited out all the refs to Thers' name and closed the comments over there. Still, the thread is an interesting window into the wingersphere's absolute depravity.

(See, PoliShifter? THAT'S a motherfucking blogwhore, bitch!)


GravatarI'm off to get some sushi.


Gravatarhare krishna

The Inherent Knowledge

Active Intelligence the Rabbis Called it.

The Rosicrcucians called it the path of initiation.

Basically its sumerian and comes from the persian Bhagavatam


were the increasingly longer lines on purpose?


GravatarI especially like this gem from Broder:

There may be more than a whiff of elitism in the Unity08 manifesto, which explicitly puts down social issues, such as abortion and gay marriage, that are important to many voters, while emphasizing education, the environment, health care and energy.


Who's going to tell cranky old man Cafferty that he's an elitist?


GravatarHey congrats. I never went to my graduation - told them to send me the piece of paper.....
Me too!
mena - 1:47 pm


i skipped high school graduation...i had attended the school only sporadically for 4 semesters...my grades were unspectacular, and my 'contributions' to the school were mixed...also skipped the BA...

but i did make a deal outta my MJ and PhD ceremonies...

Changing subject:
Did THIS get any attention???
One of the things Hannah Arendt talks about is the way totalitarian movements construct an entire parallel reality, and then insist that that reality be substituted for the actual reality. You see this with everything, from what’s going on in the science class, to the construction of foreign policy, to the promotion of abstinence education to the kind of fictitious numbers that are given for the Bush tax cuts. It’s something quite new in American politics – this idea almost of radical relativism – the idea that truth is determined by the person who has the power to impose it.

courtesy of the invaluable BUZZFlash. Read the whole interview...

* * *


GravatarI find it incredibly offensive that anyone's trying to keep it going.

Why would anyone want to *prove* that they're an asshole?


GravatarI think we might be able to test that theory at EschaToo.
NTodd, Worse Than Hitler


A dick-measuring contest!

Absolutely - if we can avoid being arrested for it!



GravatarHave you ever read any of the accounts of how the Red Guards spiraled out of control during the Cultural Revolution??? This is exactly what Davey Horowitz has in mind.

this all makes me very, very tired and sad. Not that I wasn't already tired and sad.

But it's like "enough already."


GravatarMonica_A ...

They are not bringing on James Blake right away, after all, b/c this wanker who faked an injury of some sort won his set and now they are in a fourth. They are going to go to Blake in progress when this one ends.

P.S. I would pay good cash money to see you fuck with some of those assholes.


GravatarWho's going to tell cranky old man Cafferty that he's an elitist?
Kay


Who's going to point out the *other* meaning for the phrase "old pro"?


GravatarAnd this isn't his fault because, hey, he's Ken Lay! He just runs the place! He just sleeps in the White House! It's the underlings who are actually responsible, not him!

and that served kennyboy real well didn't it?

i find it odd that there seems to be no filing for a motion for new trial yet.


GravatarPolity= Archists, Anarchists, Synarchists.


Synthesis of Society. Its the same old messianic thing, Order from Chaos
Crisis Management, Fear Factor, Hegelian, Straussian, Fukuyama, Marxist, Bullshit over and over and over and over


Gravatar(See, PoliShifter? THAT'S a motherfucking blogwhore, bitch!)

you might want to ask the parties involved if they mind your whoring their distress.


GravatarA dick-measuring contest!

Absolutely - if we can avoid being arrested for it!


I'll just forfeit up front, er, so to speak.


GravatarNYM is going to be shutting down for a bit, sad to say. Some of the late insanity is getting to her.
Thers

I find it incredibly offensive that anyone's trying to keep it going.
watertiger


Ah. I understand. Church people do the same thing to each other, or to pastors. I'd thought it was isolated to such groups. Clearly it isn't.

Like WT, I don't understand where such energy comes from. It's at NTodd's place, too. I've commented here and there about it, but so far it hasn't spread to Adventus.

Sometimes it's nice to be obscure. My sympathies are still with Thers and NYMary. This is ridiculous.


GravatarMe too!
mena


Me three!


Gravatartigre ...

I think you need a vanilla milk shake. It won't solve anything, but it will salve something.

Listen to me -- I'm a doctor.


GravatarWho's going to point out the *other* meaning for the phrase "old pro"?

well, that's what i was wondering too.


Gravatarrepublicans are enemies of the state

Not so. They are the friends of the state and want it to be as strong and as intrusively in control as possible. Democrats and also friends of the state though they are more moderate.
The nature of the state is the problem here and we are going to have to fix it ourselves.


GravatarGotta run the old guy to the store.


GravatarRipley, nottaworry mate. Never had a problem. But I'm coming in on one of those undersea fiber cables so that makes me a suspect terrorist.


GravatarI'm off to get some sushi.

But who will do the ass kicking while you are away???

.


GravatarThers,

If you can get this message to NYMary:

The original "Bedazzled" was on this morning. I thought about you while Dudley and Peter were singing their versions of "Love Me". I hope you start posting again soon.


GravatarWe're all terrorists in the eyes of Amerika.


GravatarWell, a stream of *something*, anyway.

Troll piss?


GravatarI think you need a vanilla milk shake.

I need people to stop being so fucking disappointing, is what I need.

But that's not going to happen, so I'm just going to do my own thing until all this passes.


GravatarI nominate NTodd for ass-kicker pro tempore!


GravatarI'll just forfeit up front, er, so to speak.

yeah, i mean being 10 inches just doesn't mean much these days, so i better bow out, too.

(oh god, who'm i kidding? at least i have nice girth. which is really what it's all about, right?





right?)


GravatarWhy would anyone want to *prove* that they're an asshole?

'Cause it's all they've got.


Gravatar"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all..."

-- Malachi Constant, Lurker


Gravatarthis all makes me very, very tired and sad. Not that I wasn't already tired and sad.

But it's like "enough already."
watertiger


For them, it will never be enough.

Especially when they feel like the struggle has produced something... but in the end they just get off on the struggle.

(insert witty reference to Hegel's dialectic and Trotsky's theory of continuous revolution)


GravatarIf it was Cheryl, she blew off like a tumbleweed in a windstorm shortly afterwards.
Little Brøther


I knew something sent her off. I didn't remember the thing about Bremer. I just remembered vividly when someone turned around finally and blasted her for her disjointed writing.

And I never saw her again after that.

She was very vehement - no doubt about that.


GravatarWhy is rob prattering about?


GravatarWord is they want to promote a H. Clinton/McCain ticket.

is this a reference to Unity'08? Does anyone serioucly think that McCain would be ANYONE's second banana? especially Hillary's?

I'm just waiting for McCain & Lieberman press conference where the nobly condescend to save the world by running for office.

Jesus: talk about ten more wars...


GravatarSynthesis of Society. Its the same old messianic thing, Order from Chaos
Crisis Management, Fear Factor, Hegelian, Straussian, Fukuyama, Marxist, Bullshit over and over and over and over
Anonymous | 06.03.06 - 2:00 pm |


Straussian Fukuyama Marxist? What the fuck does this mean? Why do people complain about us being nonsensical?


GravatarEspecially when they feel like the struggle has produced something... but in the end they just get off on the struggle.


so good it needed repeating.


GravatarWhy would anyone want to *prove* that they're an asshole?

I'm bored?

you might want to ask the parties involved if they mind your whoring their distress.

Nope. It's there, I'm not deleting it, so there ya are. Thanks for not judging me in any way whatsoever.


Gravatarright?)
PoppieProng


In the immortal words of the Arrogant Worms -

"It isn't what you do with it, it's the size that counts" - Canada's Really Big



GravatarThanks for not judging me in any way whatsoever.

I wasn't telling you to delete it.


Gravatarthis all makes me very, very tired and sad. Not that I wasn't already tired and sad.

Superbunny doesn't want tigre to be tired and sad, and is on his way to help.


GravatarIn the immortal words of the Arrogant Worms -

"It isn't what you do with it, it's the size that counts" - Canada's Really Big




Gravatar I nominate NTodd for ass-kicker pro tempore!

Yeah, only on duty when WT's not around. Presuming she hasn't kicked my ass beforehand.


GravatarAnd BTW, I have edited out all the refs to Thers' name and closed the comments over there.

I never get to have any fun!


Gravatar"I find it incredibly offensive that anyone's trying to keep it going.

Why would anyone want to *prove* that they're an asshole?
Eli |"

I do too! What I really find offensive is that these people seem to support IdiotJeffy's reporting on meanings. Make the meaning shit was too far off the chart for a typo prone like me. LOL. Okay, that is what I see as the problem. Why they chose to abduct Thers and NYMary along with the family is complete disregard for privacy. There are laws and I interpret them in such a way that those people are doomed.


GravatarI think you need a vanilla milk shake. It won't solve anything, but it will salve something.

Listen to me -- I'm a doctor.


*Avocado* shake.



Some doctor.


GravatarThanks for not judging me in any way whatsoever.

I wasn't telling you to delete it.


I wasn't saying you did. Merely observing that it's there, and your point was considered and rejected and it felt fucking judgemental.


GravatarPre-kicked ass?


GravatarThers - I'm with watertiger - I'm flabbergasted that they don't stop. What a colossal drag for y'all. I am so damn sorry.


Not me, I hope...

I'm hiding behind anonoymous because of the NSA spying and my location, but I've had my share of grief.

He's commenting... from Inside the HOUSE !!
Ripley


Not me either, I hope, but I fear otherwise...


Gravatarwell, i'm getting light headed from only having coffee in my belly this morning, so i should go.


and maybe actually do the work i'm supposed to do.


GravatarSome doctor.

Okay, that hurt.

That was payback for driftglass, wasn't it?

I will make you an avocado shake anytime. I will hold my nose while I make it, because I find it vaguely disgusting; but I will make it for you.


GravatarI wasn't saying you did. Merely observing that it's there, and your point was considered and rejected and it felt fucking judgemental.

I sent you a MILF earlier. Did you get her?


Gravataragonist.org has been Friday cat blogging.

http://tinyurl.com/k3xqt


GravatarI fucking invote the NSA to trace me. I haven't had a new entry in my CSIS folder in at least a month.


GravatarThe scam of equating "winnability" with the most conservative candidate and calling in "realism" is why we find ourselves where we are as a country and why the Dumascrap corpse continues to rot. Still, good people will fall for the old shellgame. If we really want change, we won't find it playing that game.


Gravatar"Jesus: talk about ten more wars...
Bette Goldstein"

MSM has been speaking that line all morning. Seriously! Like I said above, I snorted my coffee when I heard it.


GravatarI need people to stop being so fucking disappointing, is what I need.

Oh, that's a tough one, watertiger. It surely is.


GravatarThe NSA already knows where you are.


GravatarRemember the old line: "I love mankind, it's people I can't stand"


GravatarI fucking invite the NSA to trace me. I haven't had a new entry in my CSIS folder in at least a month.
JR, kerosene and a match | 06.03.06 - 2:09 pm |


The constant experience of history has been that draconian police forces are incapable of recognizing innocence.


Gravatarnews stories are now saying a 9 year iraqi girl is saying that troops that were cleared sat. from wrong doing should be put to death.

i'm confused, when did haditha massacre troops get cleared? maybe i'm a moron, but i'm getting totally confused.


GravatarI like this story: Mayor bans Japanese soccer fans from jumping into Rhine.
BONN, Germany, June 3 (Reuters) - The mayor of Bonn has banned over-exuberant Japanese fans from jumping into the river Rhine during the World Cup.

Thousands of ecstatic fans celebrated the progress of co-hosts Japan into the last 16 four years ago by leaping into a river in downtown Osaka. Several injuries were reported.

Bonn city officials are anxious to avoid a repeat should Japan advance from World Cup Group F and have warned visitors of the Rhine's strong current.


Didja know that when the English play the Japanese the English fans whistle the "Bridge on the River Kwai" tune?


GravatarBroder should go back to sniffing the Clenis.


GravatarWhy do people complain about us being nonsensical?
kei & yuri | 06.03.06 - 2:04 pm | #


GravatarShorter george bush........

Minority rights are sufficiently protected by the will of the majority.


GravatarOkay, that hurt.

That was payback for driftglass, wasn't it?

I will make you an avocado shake anytime. I will hold my nose while I make it, because I find it vaguely disgusting; but I will make it for you.


No, I would never be so petty. I just feel that the avocado milkshakes restorative properties have been woefully underappreciated.

You're still a sweetie, tho.


GravatarThere are times when I have found some of the "regulars" to be as vulgar as a repug.

agreed, fucking vulgarians.


GravatarI sent you a MILF earlier. Did you get her?

You did? Where?


GravatarI need people to stop being so fucking disappointing, is what I need.

I'm just as God made me.


Gravatarpicking up on the hearts and minds topic from below; anyone care to discuss how success in afghanistan is progressing:

Afghans' anger tilting more to West
By Kim Barker
Tribune foreign correspondent
June 3, 2006
KABUL, Afghanistan -- The cleric told about 10,000 worshipers that Afghans made one mistake in their anti-American riots Monday. They should never have looted any Afghan shops.
"I'm telling you, if you want to put pressure, put it on the Americans," Maulavi Enayatullah Baligh thundered during Friday prayers at Kabul's largest mosque. "If you want to fight, fight them. If you want to burn, burn them." ...
"During the protests, I yelled, `Death to America,'" said Abdul Fatah, 24, who sells plastic water containers at a Kabul stall. "I'm still saying, `Death to America.' Death to America right now." ...They torched a well-known brothel, Escalades, where foreigners once drank alcohol and played pool.
They broke into the compound of CARE International, setting the main building on fire and causing $123,000 in damage to equipment. At one point, an Afghan looter grabbed a fair-skinned girl from the CARE kindergarten and threatened to throw her into the fire. When she screamed in the Afghan language of Dari, she was released.
Afghans are not just frustrated with the economy. They also are chafing more and more over the behavior of the international community, and not just U.S. military convoys. Landcruisers with dark windows speed through traffic circles. Brothels staffed by Chinese women have mushroomed across the city. Markets now sell beer, although alcohol is forbidden in the constitution. Foreigners pay $11 for foie gras at a French restaurant with a pool; Afghans are not allowed as customers, unless they have a foreign passport.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/ne...nationworld- hed


Gravatarwhile emphasizing education, the environment, health care and energy.

That stuff will solve itself if abortion and gay marriage are nipped in the buds.


GravatarOh, fuck me with a handful of Cool Whip!! I was going to go the church food pantry this morning to see about volunteering there and I completely forgot about it because my buddy called me and I didn't have any coffee and had to go to the coffee shop.

Damnit, damnit, damnit!!!

Mind like a steel sieve, I have...


GravatarIt was a previous massacre that Cheney/Bush "cleared" but the Iraqis ani't buying and neither is anyone else -- well, the spinners and the tru beleivers but nobody rational.


GravatarI need people to stop being so fucking disappointing, is what I need.

Oh, that's a tough one, watertiger. It surely is.
Tena | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 2:10 pm | #


It will be a grand day, when that happens...


GravatarMe three!
Tena

me four, tho i think i'm expected to be at my daughters graduation. i'm just not into that shit.

i graduated 730th out of 750 in hi school. i was summa cum laude from my college. which considering my grammar skills makes me wonder what that piece of paper is worth any way.


GravatarMerely observing that it's there, and your point was considered and rejected and it felt fucking judgemental.

Ah. I'm not allowed to hold the opinion that drawing more attention to winger comments about NYMary and Thers is not in the best interests of NYMary and Thers.


GravatarThe NSA already knows where you are.
Partisanpoet


Not a secret.

There are over 300,000 people in the Hammer, they can guess which one I am.


GravatarBonn city officials are anxious to avoid a repeat should Japan advance from World Cup Group F and have warned visitors of the Rhine's strong current.

That's funny. They should relax.


GravatarI need people to stop being so fucking disappointing, is what I need.

For as long as you think this way you will be unhappy.


GravatarThe constant experience of history has been that draconian police forces are incapable of recognizing innocence.
kei & yuri


The moment you presume innocence is the moment someone commits a crime you could have prevented by presuming them guilty.

Which is what is wrong with the NSA data mining operation. And simple enough to explain to the youngest child. Why no one is doing that, is beyond me.


GravatarFor as long as you think this way you will be unhappy.

don't worry. this too shall pass.


GravatarRemember the old line: "I love mankind, it's people I can't stand"
JR, kerosene and a match


Linus Van Pelt, Peanuts


GravatarThe James Blake match is on NBC. Blake and the kid he is playing are cranking.


Gravatari graduated 730th out of 750 in hi school. i was summa cum laude from my college. which considering my grammar skills makes me wonder what that piece of paper is worth any way.

When I graduated, we lined up by height, so I was the last in my class to receive my diploma. My Mom, being my Mom, assumed this meant I had the lowest grades of the class.


GravatarWhen I graduated, we lined up by height, so I was the last in my class to receive my diploma. My Mom, being my Mom, assumed this meant I had the lowest grades of the class.

When it was, in fact, merely coincidence.


GravatarMy favorite little bit from Dean Broder's spew:

But there undoubtedly is a hunger in the land for consensus and an end to partisanship.

Hmm, yes, now that the GOP is on the ropes, I'm sure there is a DESPERATE hunger all across the great Beltway for an end to the partisanship. After all, we're all Americans, right? We should UNITE! (Forget the last 6 1/2 years ever happened.)

The GOP has governed (with control of all three branches of government) in a highly partisan fashion, to put it mildly. It is more than a little ridiculous that NOW (as the GOP is burning up on re-entry into the Reality Atmosphere) "there undoubtedly is a hunger in the land for consensus and an end to partisanship."

I've got your consensus right here, Broder. The consensus is that the GOP has to go, and they don't get consolation positions in the next Congress or Presidency. They are gone. Done. Kaput. Finito. Wastin' away in Margaritaville.

But it is uncouth to suggest that, when Democrats regain control of at least one branch of government, we should do so with an eye toward stomping the life out of the psycho neo-con "unitary executive" wet dream once and for all. And the Glibertarians can FOAD, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, what's the freakin' point of the Libertarian party, if not to REDUCE government control and surveillance? I am baffled majorly, as Pastor Swank might put it.

So screw Broder, screw Unity08, and any panty-waist scheme to Make Nice with the psychopaths who have very nearly destroyed our democracy.


GravatarWe ought to embrace this thing and promote a Roy Moore/Al Sharpton ticket.


Gravatarthis is what i don't follow. the writing couldn't be more misleading:

By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writers
1 hour ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - An Iraqi whose brother and other relatives were killed in a U.S. attack on a suspected terrorist hideout north of Baghdad condemned a military investigation Saturday that cleared forces of wrongdoing.

A 9-year-old survivor of an alleged massacre by U.S. forces in the western city of Haditha, meanwhile, demanded that those responsible be executed, as anger mounted over accusations that Iraqi civilians have been killed by Americans without provocation.


Gravatar
i'm confused, when did haditha massacre troops get cleared?


They didn't. It was regarding another massacre that I happen to be blogging right now.


Gravatarmmmm, salad.
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/ph...603salad/ 3.html


Gravatar
When it was, in fact, merely coincidence.




GravatarYou did? Where?

It's OK, I caught her. Here ya go.


Gravatarwatertiger - Have you got your AC yet? Was just going to pass on some advice if you have not.


Gravatarchris/tx,

am waiting out this rain before i go pick it up.


Gravatar"The NSA already knows where you are."

You give them way too much credit. It would be very difficult for them to trace me, especially since they have no jurisdiction in the multi-domains my signal traverses. And they aren't on friendly terms with many of the local natives.


GravatarMy favorite little bit from Dean Broder's spew:

But there undoubtedly is a hunger in the land for consensus and an end to partisanship.

Broder's column alternates between A) what the Fulton County Commissioners' decision on a leashless dog park portends for the upcoming congressional election B) how the stubborn partisanship of Democrats in the minority is preventing all the great and glorious reforms good moderate Repuclicans are trying to introduce.


GravatarRe unity08: without a candidate worth noticing, what good is slick production values? The "democrats" are a Retuhg side project meant to siphon off energy from any potential leftist project.


GravatarBrothels staffed by Chinese women have mushroomed across the city. Markets now sell beer, although alcohol is forbidden in the constitution.

Dont throw the good out with the bad.


GravatarDidja know that when the English play the Japanese the English fans whistle the "Bridge on the River Kwai" tune?
res ipsa loquitur


I did not know that and I think it's really funny.

It's racist, but you know how it goes - that's just funny.


Gravatar2 of the clock and we have not yet hit 80F.


GravatarI'm not allowed to hold the opinion that drawing more attention to winger comments about NYMary and Thers is not in the best interests of NYMary and Thers.

You can do whatever the hell you want, darling. I reported how it felt to me: that it was judgemental.

And you know damned well that people would likely ask what's up and that's a place to find out. So why not point it out?

The shit's done, and it's silly to sweep it under the rug.


GravatarAnonymous | 06.03.06 - 2:20 pm |

Yeah, but the way their type of filthy societal tumor works, they'll decide they do know where you are and arrest whoever's at that address.


Gravatar We ought to embrace this thing and promote a Roy Moore/Al Sharpton ticket.
Gen, JC Christian, patriot


YES!!!!!!!!

I agree with you, Gen, sir.


GravatarIt's OK, I caught her. Here ya go.

Oh yeah, baybay! Can you hook me up IRL?


GravatarRe: NYM's assailants

this is the quintessential brownshirt tactic: silencing the critics and opponents through bullying. The very volume and the haphazard threats, in a climate of instigating reprisal, drives the normal--say, also, oppositional, critical--person out of that kind of confrontation. That is, in fact, exactly how internal, intellectual/emotional terrorism works...

there are instruments in the Museum of Medieval Torture in Rothenburg ob der Taube which concentrate on the hands and fingers; and, while i do not usually or typically counsel the punishment of speech, it would not distress me overly to see such implements applied skillfully to the digits of NYM's tormentors...

cowards...


GravatarYeah, now they talk about bipartisanship. Remember, Hastert won't let anything come up for a vote unless a majority of the repuke caucus supports it, so there is absolutely no chance of passing anything that is supported by both parties coming together.

This may cheer WT up.


GravatarIt's racist, but you know how it goes - that's just funny.
Tena


How is it racist?


Gravatarwatertiger - I shopped for AC's for a while and finally bought one that was rated for a bigger room. Very glad I did. Apparently when they say it is for cooling a 300 foot room, that means in about 24 hours or something. I got the AC for what the box said was for a 500 foot room even though my guest house/efficiency is only 300 feet. With the extra power, I can cool the room in less than an hour. Plus it has a neat little remote and an energy saving button.

Anyway, something you may want to think about before you make your purchase.


GravatarThis may cheer WT up.

I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm reminded of this...


GravatarYeah, but that movie was about how the British are so civilized, Skinnerboxed and brain-trained as to be ready and eager collaborators. Is that really the right tune to whistle?


Gravatarmy favorite of the troll-commenters at NTodd's is the one who explains that he (who takes the name of Locke, get it?) and George W Bush are the real liberals, while those of us who call ourselves liberals are just elitists. Presumably this is because we laugh at people who think Adam and Eve spoke English while riding their dinosaurs to Church for Christmas services exactly 6,753 years ago.


Gravatari'm confused, when did haditha massacre troops get cleared? maybe i'm a moron, but i'm getting totally confused.

Different massacre, different town. The town was Sadiqha (or something like that).

It's getting to where you can't keep your massacres straight without a scorecard.


GravatarOh yeah, baybay! Can you hook me up IRL?

Hah.

Just a soon as I take care of myself first.


GravatarAh, listening to "Bananaphone" and watching Dancing Spidey. Life doesn't get much better than this...


GravatarHow is it racist?
JR,


Maybe it isn't, now that I think about it.

Good. I'm glad, because I think it's funny.


GravatarHow is it racist?
JR, kerosene and a match | 06.03.06 - 2:25 pm |


We don't see the racism either.


GravatarYeah, but that movie was about how the British are so civilized, Skinnerboxed and brain-trained as to be ready and eager collaborators.,/i>

I don't think we saw the same movie.


GravatarIt's racist, but you know how it goes - that's just funny.
Tena

How is it racist?


I wonder, as well. Colonel Bogey ain't a Nip tune.


GravatarI've got your consensus right here, Broder. The consensus is that the GOP has to go, and they don't get consolation positions in the next Congress or Presidency. They are gone. Done. Kaput. Finito. Wastin' away in Margaritaville.

So damn good I had to see it again.


GravatarIt's getting to where you can't keep your massacres straight without a scorecard.
Toonscribe: frustrated


Clear proof things are getting better. We can't exonerate the massacres fast enough.


GravatarI don't think we saw the same movie.
JR, kerosene and a match | 06.03.06 - 2:27 pm |


Why did they build the bridge? Why did it take a sudden, striking change of character for Alec Guinness to realize that he had to destroy it?


GravatarClear proof things are getting better. We can't exonerate the massacres fast enough.

The next massacre is just around the corner!



No, wait, that's not right...


GravatarIt's getting to where you can't keep your massacres straight without a scorecard.
Toonscribe: frustrated

amen. scary stuff.


GravatarI already said I agree - not racist. Good. I think it's funny so I'm glad it's not.

It was first reaction and I don't know why.


GravatarI'm not entirely sure why, but I'm reminded of this...

Forbidden? Must be really good!


Gravatar2 of the clock and we have not yet hit 80F.

meanwhile, here in Central Texas, it's 378 degrees...


Gravatarwoohoo! C&L has that Cafferty video up.


GravatarNow, the joke of the day, provided by msnbc.com:

• WP: Bush welcomes dissenters

AAAAhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!


GravatarForbidden? Must be really good!

Really? Try copying and pasting the link into the URL window.


Gravatar2 of the clock and we have not yet hit 80F.

meanwhile, here in Central Texas, it's 378 degrees...


I don't know what the temp is, here in the Heartland, but it is a hella gorgeous day. If it weren't for you bastards with your wit and charm, I'd be out there enjoying it. Damn you all!

I don't want to hear one more witty remark. For every witty remark I hear, I shall kill you!


GravatarMajor terrorist attack in southern ontario thwarted.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/.../ D8I0RO481.html


GravatarNow, the joke of the day, provided by msnbc.com:

• WP: Bush welcomes dissenters

AAAAhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!


"This dissenter will be an excellent Cabinet member... for me to poop on!"


Gravatar,i>Why did they build the bridge? Why did it take a sudden, striking change of character for Alec Guinness to realize that he had to destroy it?


It's about human character, not "British" character.


GravatarI don't want to hear one more witty remark. For every witty remark I hear, I shall kill you!

Lighten up, Francis.


GravatarHow do Cafferty's video essays not embarrass Wolf Blitzer into doing his job?


Gravatar Major terrorist attack in southern ontario thwarted.

All due to Bush's heroic efforts.


GravatarHow do Cafferty's video essays not embarrass Wolf Blitzer into doing his job?

They removed Wolf's embarrassment gland as part of his... procedure.


Gravatarmeanwhile, here in Central Texas, it's 378 degrees...
lavalamp


Well, you made me look.

Houston: 85. Goin' for 90. Low was around 70. Spring has sprung, fall has fell, summer's here, and it's hot as....

No wonder my first $200+ electric bill has already come. And I keep the house WARM in the summer, just for such occassions.

Don't usually crack $200 until July or August. Like I said, I don't run the sucker much.

Gonna be a long summer.


Gravatar"cowards..."

WWG, Yeah, but what else can one expect from a group that has no social values? I'm sorry to hear that NYM has taken punishment from those thugs. From what I've heard, she was swift-boated by the repugs and got swamped. She'll be back when she dries herself off and regroups.


Gravatar

I don't know about anyone else, but spidey seems a bit "fruity" to me. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
.


GravatarHow do Cafferty's video essays not embarrass Wolf Blitzer into doing his job?
DemByDefault


Cafferty is "quaint."

And pre 9/11.


GravatarI reported how it felt to me: that it was judgemental.

And you know damned well that people would likely ask what's up and that's a place to find out. So why not point it out?

The shit's done, and it's silly to sweep it under the rug.


Well, then, we'll have to agree to disagree about this.


GravatarMajor terrorist attack in southern ontario thwarted.

All due to Bush's heroic efforts.
NTodd, Slower Hand Than Hitler

Drudge has his headlines arranged to make it look like it was NSA style snooping that done it, no indication that this was done by them girly canadians who wouldn't help us save the world from Saddam.


GravatarThat worked. Not that good after the forbidden expectation but funny.

I shall return to hunting MILFs.


Gravatarhttp://r_harrison.tripod.com/ Ago...cat20060602.jpg

is this a watertiger?


GravatarMajor terrorist attack in southern ontario thwarted.


Well, if they were planning on targetting the CN Tower, then it was about as competent as the guys who were going after the bridge with torches.


Gravatar Now, the joke of the day, provided by msnbc.com:

• WP: Bush welcomes dissenters

AAAAhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!



George W Bush - June 28, 2005

The troops here and across the world are fighting a global war on terror. The war reached our shores on September the 11th, 2001. The terrorists who attacked us - and the terrorists we face - murder in the name of a totalitarian ideology that hates freedom, rejects tolerance, and despises all dissent.

Honestly, do these people ever listen to themselves? They sure as Hell don't think about what they're saying, it seems.


GravatarYertle the Turtle endorses Al Gore.


GravatarHow do Cafferty's video essays not embarrass Wolf Blitzer into doing his job?

Because Cafferty is the designated curmudgeon and as such does not have to be taken seriously by a *real journalist*(trademark).


Gravatarand clean sheets


GravatarIt's about human character, not "British" character.
JR, kerosene and a match | 06.03.06 - 2:31 pm |


The British are surely devils.


GravatarThe C&L clilp, btw, has the letters Cafferty got on his oped. about seven to one against Bush. Who knows if that was representative, but it was nice to hear.


GravatarI shall return to hunting MILFs.

Ironically enough...

Referral Denied!!!


GravatarWhy am I reminded of Professor Frink taking Maggie's popcorn popper away and saying "You don't enjoy it on as many levels as I do"


GravatarIshiqa (?)
Haditha...
and how many dozens of other incidents.

has anybody yet claimes they found a bomb on the pregnant woman being rushed to the hospital whom the GIs manning the checkpoint blew totally away because the driver--also killed--got rattled?

it's not that the GIs were technically wrong. they operated under their rules of engagement, probabaly.

the real problem, and where the crime resides, is in the matter of what the fuck USer troops were doing employing those rules in IRaq, a nation which had done no harm to the People of the USofA...

there are all kinds of tortuous rationalizations for the killing, and the killers know them all...they are expert--they have to be--at deploying them.

there's no reason those victimns had to be subjected to the rules of engagement which are, in the present instance, illegitemately applied to a totally innocent population.
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Gravatarmeanwhile, here in Central Texas, it's 378 degrees...
lavalampmeanwhile, here in Central Texas, it's 378 degrees...
lavalamp


It's actually cooler than it was all week. The humidity dropped here a bit. It's going to hit high 90s today, but I can take that if it's dry.


Gravatar,i>The British are surely devils.
kei & yuri

Why did the sun never set on the British Empire?

because God wouldn't trust and Englishman in the dark.


GravatarAmigos,

the deestortions een thees piece, they just keep piling up, no?

Ullman and Clayton, former presidents of the National Association of Student Councils, certainly are right when they say that many of their contemporaries are frustrated by the spectacle of both parties catering to entrenched interest groups and ideological extremes.

So, meester Broder-sniffer, we can all see the catering on the republiculo side.

But where ees our caterer ala izquierda, eh?

All I have seen ees right-weengy Dems weeth no spines running from their own base time and time again.

Show me, meester Broder-sniffer, show me the catering.

pfui.


GravatarWGG - I agree. It's awful.


Gravatar
It's actually cooler than it was all week. The humidity dropped here a bit. It's going to hit high 90s today, but I can take that if it's dry.


yeah, you're way north of me, too. Maybe you got our weather- it was cooler here during the week, then rain, now steam and heat.

Blecch.


Gravatarit would not distress me overly to see such implements applied skillfully to the digits of NYM's tormentors...

couldn't we just beat the fuck out of 'em? i really despise the idea of torture.

one thing i've noticed about the internest, it can get real ugly, real fast. even amongst freinds.

see, it's just typing. reality brings it all home.


Gravataryeah, you're way north of me, too. Maybe you got our weather- it was cooler here during the week, then rain, now steam and heat.

Blecch.
lavalamp


O last week was just hell. The humidity was unreal. All last week by the afternoon, when I went into an airconditioned place, I found I was having reactions like hot flashes - I'd break out in a fine sweat and have to sit down. I fucking hate this!


GravatarOne of the things Hannah Arendt talks about is the way totalitarian movements construct an entire parallel reality, and then insist that that reality be substituted for the actual reality. You see this with everything, from what’s going on

WGG:

Seems like the press is also a huge part of what is constructing this parallel reality.


Gravatarthere's no reason those victimns had to be subjected to the rules of engagement which are, in the present instance, illegitemately applied to a totally innocent population.
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WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka...

this is why i feel so sorry for those guys in haditha. 'cause i fuck'n know where the buck stops.

my brother was a marine. an aggressive guy by nature. when he got out of bootcamp he was a brainwashed killing machine. i'm not making a judgement here, just saying. you don't unleash that force willy nilly.

haditha is most likely a war crime (one amongst many), and fuckwit is the culpable party. rumdum too.


Gravatarcourtesy of the invaluable BUZZFlash. Read the whole interview...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka... | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 1:59 pm | #


wonder if a connection can be made between the domination by the church and mega slums. also from buzzflash, a review of Planet of Slums:

Recently, many of us read of a gang uprising in Brazil that took many lives. It was, perhaps, a portent of things to come in a nation with many large swaths of slums that are lawless zones inhabited by criminals and the unemployed. "As the CIA grimly noted in 2002," Davis notes, "By the late 1990s a staggering one billion workers representing one-third of the world's labor force, most of them in the South[ern hemisphere], were either unemployed or underemployed."
[...]
With cool indignation, Davis argues that the exponential growth of slums is no accident but the result of a perfect storm of corrupt leadership, institutional failure, and IMF-imposed Structural Adjustment Programs leading to a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Scourge of neo-liberal nostrums, Davis debunks the irresponsible myth of self-help salvation, showing exactly who gets the boot from 'bootstrap capitalism.'

There are many ticking time bombs in the world -- and the mega-slums are at the top of the list.


http://www.buzzflash.com/store/r...ore/reviews/ 224


Gravatarwhat movie does that review remind you of?


Gravatarthis idea must have been conceived by the republicans...because a bad deal like this is the only way any of them will get elected...riding on the coattails of democrats. and the democrats better smarten up and nominate howard dean. he was the only one who had the guts to say we have to get out of iraq first...and one of the few. who was against us going in in the first place. got that hillary?


Gravatarhow about a Reality08 ticket?


GravatarThere will be unity when Republican senators get anthrax in the mail as Dems do.

There will be unity in 08 under marshal law.


GravatarI laughed so hard when I read this. You would think they would GET it by now, eh?

I wonder how long it will take. I say they will die first.


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