Toadstool, you're forgiven, at least by me.
mer |
06.17.06 - 11:19 pm | #
watertiger, any word from our beloved maple syrup dork?
Thers, Mighty |
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06.17.06 - 11:19 pm | #
"They say we're traitors, we're deserters," said former Marine Chris Magaoay, 20, of the Hawaiian island of Maui. "No, I'm a Marine and I stand up for what I believe in, and I believe the Constitution of the United States of America is being pushed aside as a scrap piece of paper."
If these guys have a defense or support fund, I'd very much like to know about it.
DemByDefault |
06.17.06 - 11:20 pm | #
this so sucks, new thread, now GWPDA will miss my ridiculous flirt with her.
sigh.........
charley
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Just saying, that I thought everyone knew that my sort of cousin Margot Kidder is what kindly old historians look like. You mean, we don't?
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GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.17.06 - 11:21 pm | #
If these guys have a defense or support fund, I'd very much like to know about it.
DemByDefault
Me, too.
"Traitors"??? Because they don't want to die or be maimed for Halliburton?
Terry C, Politikal Girl |
06.17.06 - 11:21 pm | #
"I've got my eye on you, girlie."
--Eli
jesus, is that a penis coming out of the top of that?
mer |
06.17.06 - 11:22 pm | #
If these guys have a defense or support fund, I'd very much like to know about it.
DemByDefault
I'm pretty sure it's the Quakers who are up front with this one. Run a search with a cross-reference to the article in Harper's about six months ago.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.17.06 - 11:22 pm | #
Thers,
says he's doing okay - he's going to be driving his grandmother up (over?) to Maine on Monday and will be picking up the latest addition to his household, so that will provide some distraction.
Today was saying goodbye day. He and his dad are hanging in there.
watertiger, bananular |
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06.17.06 - 11:23 pm | #
Just saying, that I thought everyone knew that my sort of cousin Margot Kidder is what kindly old historians look like. You mean, we don't?
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GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil
Margot Kidder delivered the most transcendent line in Hollywood history:
Oh, and I have to write a post about this: there was a Jewish Ralph Wiggum at my nephew's bar mitzvah. We were laughing our asses off at this kid singing every note of every prayer.
Turns out he's the rabbi's son.
watertiger, bananular |
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06.17.06 - 11:25 pm | #
My copy of the Economist came today. On pg 92 there is an obituary.
Yasser Talal al-Zahrani
He was 21 years old and had been incarcerated by Amerikans at Guatanamo since age 17. Big time terrorist or sumpthin? Right.
The Economist obituary closes with this paragraph:
"As he had hoped, his death led to voices around the world to demand that the camp be closed. One Senior American official, immovable, called his suicide "a good PR move". She may have been right; Guatanamo, alas, remains wrong.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.17.06 - 11:26 pm | #
Hi to you Sarah Deere! I love getting up early and reading what you have to say on the overnight threads.
mer |
06.17.06 - 11:27 pm | #
Curly's pissed that I didn't take him to Bonnaroo.
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Jeffraham
to where?
plum p |
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06.17.06 - 11:27 pm | #
plum:
That IS one purty kitty!
Terry C, Politikal Girl |
06.17.06 - 11:28 pm | #
hey mer...I'm sorta hit-and-run these days
hope all is well w/you & yours.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.17.06 - 11:28 pm | #
simce i've got nothing to say, a beautiful cat then
(Check out "Images By Year")
Eli |
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06.17.06 - 11:28 pm | #
plum p: to where?
The Madness in Manchester (TN), the modern-day equivalent to Woodstock, without the mud.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.17.06 - 11:29 pm | #
Apparently, according to the Economist, a "myth" had been birthed amonst the prisoners which held that if three of them killed themselves, the rest would be released.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.17.06 - 11:29 pm | #
One Senior American official, immovable, called his suicide "a good PR move".
There is a special place in hell for these people.
Colbert (BT): We can't give these terrorists trials, we don't have any evidence...
Colbert (RT): Then how do you know their terrorists?
Colbert (BT): How do you know they're not? I mean 460 arabs arrested in Afghanistan and Iraq, some of them gotta be terrorists...
Colbert (RT): Well that's blatant racial profiling!
Colbert (BT): You're just talking like a whitey...
Colbert (RT): Now but, what about the guys who are innocent?
Colbert (BT): What about'em?
Colbert (RT): We can't keep innocent people there forever!
Colbert (BT): Well if they're really innocent, they won't mind being locked up
PoliShifter |
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06.17.06 - 11:31 pm | #
I met Leopold once, three days before his Rove story ran, to discuss his recently published memoir, "News Junkie." It seems to be an honest record of neglect and abuse by his parents, felony conviction, cocaine addiction -- and deception in the practice of journalism...
I disagree, but I felt some sympathy for the affable, seemingly vulnerable 36-year-old. Before we parted, I told him a bit about myself -- that I freelance for numerous newspapers, including the Sunday Times of London. His publicist had earlier given him my cellphone number.
Three days later, Leopold's Rove story appeared. I wrote him a congratulatory e-mail, wondering how long it would be before the establishment media caught up.
But by Monday there was no announcement. No one else published the story. The blogosphere went wild. Leopold said on the radio that he would out his unnamed sources if it turned out that they were wrong or had misled him. I trawled the Internet looking for a clue to the truth. I found a blog called Talk Left, run by Jeralyn Merritt, a Colorado defense lawyer.
Merritt had called Mark Corallo, a former Justice Department spokesman who is now privately employed by Rove. She reported that Corallo said he had "never spoken with someone identifying himself as 'Jason Leopold.' He did have conversations Saturday and Sunday . . . but the caller identified himself as Joel something or other from the Londay [sic] Sunday Times. . . . At one point . . . he offered to call Joel back, and was given a cell phone number that began with 917. When he called the number back, it turned out not to be a number for Joel."
A chill went down my back. I freelance for the Sunday Times. My first name is often mistaken for Joel. My cellphone number starts with area code 917.
I called Corallo. He confirmed that my name was the one the caller had used. Moreover, the return number the caller had given him was off from mine by one digit. Corallo had never been able to reach me to find out it wasn't I who had called. He said he knew who Leopold was but had never talked to him.
Richard |
06.17.06 - 11:32 pm | #
Just saying, that I thought everyone knew that my sort of cousin Margot Kidder is what kindly old historians look like
i swear to god you were a septugenarian white haired (what was left of it) old man in my minds eye. then i saw your pic . someone mentioned patricia o'neill which must not be the correct spelling, but there you go. assumptions.
charley |
06.17.06 - 11:32 pm | #
Margot Kidder delivered the most transcendent line in Hollywood history:
Then...who's holding *you* up?
Max Planck
"You've got me?
Then who's got you?"
Terry C, Politikal Girl |
06.17.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Blair is such a cretin
US military honoured in secret by Britian
Antony Barnett, investigations editor
Sunday June 18, 2006
The Observer
The government has been secretly awarding honours to senior figures in the US military and foreign businessmen with lucrative public sector contracts. The Observer has obtained a Foreign Office list detailing all non-British citizens who have been awarded honours since 2003 - the first time the complete three-year dossier has been released.
It has emerged that Riley Bechtel, billionaire boss of the US-based Bechtel Corporation, which has won big transport and nuclear contracts in Britain and made a fortune from the Iraq war, was secretly awarded a CBE in 2003.
This award has never been made public either by the British government or Bechtel. At the time Jack Straw, now Leader of the House of Commons, was Foreign Secretary. Although there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing, questions are being asked about whether the Foreign Office kept the awards quiet for fear of a political backlash.
someone mentioned patricia o'neill which must not be the correct spelling, but there you go. assumptions.
charley
GWPDA's a babe. Handle it.
Max Planck |
06.17.06 - 11:34 pm | #
Repost from last thread, where "catsup as a vegetable" was mentioned:
First, tomatoes are a fruit. Secondly, my ex BF's brother-in-law owned a vegan food company (Tree of Life) selling "ketchup" 100 % dried tomato with spices and spring water.
They were sued by Heinz and Kraft to the effect that real ketchup had to have vinegar in it. A feature of the lawsuit was that the accusees' ketchup could go bad fast, but people were used to ketchup lasting forever.
Good evening and all that stuff. What's happening in the world? Other than the usual really stupid shit, of course.
B1 Bummer |
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06.17.06 - 11:35 pm | #
How does everyone else always know there's a new thread and I don't? Tell me the trick or the beep Eschaton gives off or whateveer
Draco |
06.17.06 - 11:36 pm | #
Can you still be a liberal if your sister's nephew races in NASCAR?
OH WOW! Watertiger, check it out, quick!
plum p |
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06.17.06 - 11:37 pm | #
hmm i dont know of a trick.
pretzelattack |
06.17.06 - 11:37 pm | #
Draco: How does everyone else always know there's a new thread and I don't? Tell me the trick or the beep Eschaton gives off or whateveer
If someone doesn't give the signal, and the posting slows to a crawl, I usually do an F5 on the homepage...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.17.06 - 11:37 pm | #
How does everyone else always know there's a new thread and I don't? Tell me the trick or the beep Eschaton gives off or whateveer
Draco |
Simple. You slowly notice your comments are being ignored by fewer and fewer people.
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Agent Orange |
06.17.06 - 11:38 pm | #
Stephen Colbert On Gitmo:
i'm not really a big fan of colbet, too over the top. but that piece he did on gitmo was brillance.
charley |
06.17.06 - 11:38 pm | #
Somebody usually says owls or sheets or whatever. Or you can just refresh the page once in a while.
B1 Bummer |
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06.17.06 - 11:38 pm | #
"Mission Accomplished!"
Black Adam |
06.17.06 - 11:38 pm | #
Leopold is in too many ways a man of his times. These days it is about the reporter, not the story; the actor, not the play; the athlete, not the game. Leopold is a product of a narcissistic culture that has not stopped at journalism's door, a culture facilitated and expanded by the Internet.
In the end, whatever Jason Leopold's future, he got what he appears to be crying out for: attention.
Expanded by the Internet? Um, what about television and radio?
masculine_monica_nyc |
06.17.06 - 11:38 pm | #
apparently you can't get away from tigers by jumping in a lake.
pretzelattack |
06.17.06 - 11:39 pm | #
pretzelattack: apparently you can't get away from tigers by jumping in a lake.
Especially if someone's thrown a nice cut of beef in, right beforehand.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.17.06 - 11:40 pm | #
Ah, yes, Gitmo. Where, according to human vomit Rash Rimjob, people kill themselves as a publicity stunt. Sort of like those self-immolating Buddhist monks back in the Vietnam era. Jeez, people will just do anything for publicity, right Rash?
B1 Bummer |
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06.17.06 - 11:41 pm | #
Tigers can swim pretty good. I thought that was fairly well known?
B1 Bummer |
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06.17.06 - 11:42 pm | #
I like Colbert a lot, but thinking as a writer, his persona limits the things he can say--I wish he had a series of personae so he could could choose the most apprpriate, fly from there. That's too much to ask, even from someone so talented.
Draco |
06.17.06 - 11:42 pm | #
How about some cat-on-dog action?
(Check out "Images By Year")
Eli
this is way too delicious!!
Sarah Deere |
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06.17.06 - 11:43 pm | #
so Lamont is another rich guy who's campaigning hard and developing grass roots supporters like us. Assume we have little money, but we've got big hearts and lots of energy and we really want a progressive in place of the Lieberman.
Bush did the same thing. Came across as a populist.
And Repugs bought it.
What's Lamont got that is different from the everyday run of the mill rich guy Senator? How do we know he's not pulling wool over our eyes and "just saying what we want to hear"?
CTheGee |
06.17.06 - 11:43 pm | #
What happened to this Leopold guy?
B1 Bummer |
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06.17.06 - 11:43 pm | #
Assumptions? Always chancy.
GWPDA, PhD
that photo is you or your cousin, i'm confused!
plum p |
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06.17.06 - 11:44 pm | #
I think left is Kidder, right is GWPDA.
Eli |
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06.17.06 - 11:44 pm | #
Monsieur decided that for Dad's Day, he wanted Italian. So I took him for it.
He is, after all, Dad ^2.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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06.17.06 - 11:45 pm | #
What's Lamont got that is different from the everyday run of the mill rich guy Senator? How do we know he's not pulling wool over our eyes and "just saying what we want to hear"?
Yabbut, how could he be any worse than Lieberman? This "he's a rich guy, he can't be on your side" argument smacks of turd blossom.
blerb |
06.17.06 - 11:45 pm | #
amazing, we get pro-Lieberman trolls now
plum p |
Homepage |
06.17.06 - 11:45 pm | #
How about some cat-on-dog action?
Awwww.
They really love each other.
fourlegsgood |
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06.17.06 - 11:45 pm | #
What happened to this Leopold guy?
He's a craptastic journamalist who got burned by his sources on the Rove/Plame story.
masculine_monica_nyc |
06.17.06 - 11:45 pm | #
Think I'll wander downstairs for another beer and a smoke.
B1 Bummer |
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06.17.06 - 11:45 pm | #
In the end, whatever Jason Leopold's future, he got what he appears to be crying out for: attention
In an alternate universe, Leopold is an internet troll.
Richard |
06.17.06 - 11:46 pm | #
Thus my surprise.... Fancy waking up and looking like yourself all of a sudden! Shocking.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.17.06 - 11:47 pm | #
Jeffraham and Agent O--That's exactly how I'd thought to see how there was a new thread in the absence of owls
But I'm always late--forgive my reposts, which you can always skip over
Draco |
06.17.06 - 11:47 pm | #
Assumptions? Always chancy.
I tried to go to the GWPDA homepage to look at that pic after you said your cousin was Margot Kidder, but your homepage link doesn't go there anymore. I fact, your homepage link seems to be dead....
blerb |
06.17.06 - 11:47 pm | #
Hmmmmm.(Dons Indiana Jones Hat and jacket...)
You can bring the bullwhip.
Mr.Murder |
06.17.06 - 11:47 pm | #
leopold must have known he would get caught, if he was making the story up. but if he wasn't, why wouldn't he go ahead and burn his sources like he threatened to do?
pretzelattack |
06.17.06 - 11:48 pm | #
why wouldn't he go ahead and burn his sources like he threatened to do?
Because he's a jerk, and that might be the end of his name being mentioned on the internets and in the broader media?
masculine_monica_nyc |
06.17.06 - 11:49 pm | #
Ah, yes, Gitmo. Where, according to human vomit Rash Rimjob, people kill themselves as a publicity stunt.
as loathesome as limbaugh is, that particular line originated out of the pentagon. must give credit where it is due. the pill-popping fatass only regurgitated the talking points.
linda |
06.17.06 - 11:50 pm | #
That would be karen Allen(Marion Ravenwood was her character name).
Yet we soldier on. Brad Pitt ain't got nuthin on what I coulda been.
Max Planck
There ya go. One of the strange things there are. I coulda been found under a bush like Cousin Margot, 'stead of hiding out here...
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.17.06 - 11:53 pm | #
He is effortlessly cute. I wish I could learn that trick.
fourlegsgood |
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06.17.06 - 11:54 pm | #
as loathesome as limbaugh is, that particular line originated out of the pentagon.
I must say, despite fierce competition, that has got to be the worst thing this administration has said yet.
But let us not forget that Limbaugh is responsible for the assertion that what went on at Abu Ghraib amounted to "fraternity hazing"....
blerb |
06.17.06 - 11:55 pm | #
Leopold isn't wrong about Rove the guy changed his tune five times. if anything Rove has continued collusion with other targetsa and has tried to set grounds for a mistrial. He'd knowingly leak wrong info but we all know Rove usually sees greater effect to leak the truth.
Plausible Deniability, and it covers reaction to the truth on follow-up.
If that doesn't work say your opponent did the action to cover tracks- because everyone knows Joe Wilson leaked Valerie's name and will be indicted.
Mr.Murder |
06.17.06 - 11:55 pm | #
He's a craptastic journamalist who got burned by his sources on the Rove/Plame story.
I wonder about that. My suspicion is that Leopold has no sources to burn. I think that he made the story up, gambling that the rumors of an imminent Rove indictment would indeed turn out to be true. If that had happened, Leopold would have been in the position of claiming that he had "scooped" everyone else. The fact that many of the details of his story were false could be readily overlooked at that point.
Unfortunately for him, Leopold lost the bet.
Richard |
06.17.06 - 11:55 pm | #
Assumptions? Always chancy.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil
Hey! The two a yez together aint a hunnert 'n four!
Elmer, PHD |
06.17.06 - 11:55 pm | #
4Legs--that is the most adorable PlushyPic!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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06.17.06 - 11:55 pm | #
snow looks like "I cant believe im dressed like this"
pretzelattack |
06.17.06 - 11:55 pm | #
So do I, Terry. I don't know if you check out Common Dreams. I do almost daily, and recommend it. It's a wonderful digest of progressive and enlightened thought.
And they publish Sheehan's pieces fairly often. You can almost feel her evolving over the months and finding her voice. She's beautifully articulate and eloquent-- simple, direct, and decidedly down-to-earth.
I have no patience with detractors and cavillers who have expressed exasperation with her actions-- or antics, as the doubtful might say. I generally like and certainly respect Scott Ritter, so I'll make allowance for a recent interview in which he sourly rejected the idea that Sheehan is or is trying to be the leader of an antiwar movement. He complained that she was all over the map, a Tinkerbell of leftist causes (my phrase, not his). He growled (or so it seemed) that she wasn't much use as an organizer or "mission leader". It was a true jarhead POV-- a Marine officer scowling at a loose cannon-- in the form of a ditsy woman-- willingly thrust to the front of the battle.
And I recall a few people of the Democratic political pragmatist stripe here sneering or bitching about Sheehan's lack of political discipline. They would prefer that she harnessed herself to the Democratic engine, which would surely involve Sheehan being required to toe somebody's line beyond her own.
I think she's a true hero and and inspiration as a free agent, and I don't give a fuck if she jumps in a Jacuzzi with Castro. Which I admit is not a pleasant image, but it makes the point.
Little Brøther |
06.17.06 - 11:57 pm | #
Hey! The two a yez together aint a hunnert 'n four!
Elmer, PHD
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.17.06 - 11:57 pm | #
Leopold isn't wrong about Rove
Yes he is. Rove wasn't indicted; that was the whole thrust of Leopold's position.
My suspicion is that Leopold has no sources to burn. I think that he made the story up, gambling that the rumors of an imminent Rove indictment would indeed turn out to be true.
I can believe that, and it would explain why he hasn't burned them, as he said he would.
masculine_monica_nyc |
06.17.06 - 11:58 pm | #
Hey! The two a yez together aint a hunnert 'n four!
Elmer, PHD
Canadians age different. It's a fact.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.17.06 - 11:59 pm | #
leopold must have known he would get caught, if he was making the story up. but if he wasn't, why wouldn't he go ahead and burn his sources like he threatened to do? -pretzelattack
I've mentioned this before, but I posed that very question to Caroline Daniel of the Financial Times a few months ago at a conference. (You may have seen her trying to get a word in edgewise on McLaughlin.) She said the problem is not the lying source, it's the fear that once you burn one, however deservedly, all your other sources will stop talking to you. She added that it is the reporter's responsibility to stop talking to the sources that lie to them, but under this system there's no real way for us to assess that.
JeffCO |
06.17.06 - 11:59 pm | #
amazing, we get pro-Lieberman trolls now
plum p
Just what I was thinking. Karl must be askeered of losing his favorite Democrat if he's sending Liebertrolls to Eschaton!!
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:00 am | #
He's a craptastic journamalist who got burned by his sources on the Rove/Plame story.
masculine_monica_nyc
and they where?
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agave
Bach in the bushes, setting up their snare for the next Leopold to saunter gullibly along...
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 12:00 am | #
Canadians age different. It's a fact.
GWPDA
you mean better, right?
plum p |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:00 am | #
Yet another opportunistic, amoral douche, I guess. Washington draws them like a fresh pile of horse shit draws flies. You know the old saw about how power corrupts? Sometimes I think that power doesn't corrupt so much as it draws the corrupt or the corruptible.
B1 Bummer |
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06.18.06 - 12:01 am | #
you mean better, right?
plum p
Of course.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.18.06 - 12:01 am | #
Canadians age different. It's a fact.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil
Well, I guess...
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 12:02 am | #
4Legs--that is the most adorable PlushyPic!
I thought so too.
fourlegsgood
That kitty could be a cute overload all by his loneseome....
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:02 am | #
Of course.
GWPDA
The Oilers made it 3-3 tonite, Harper was there. I think western Canada had enough wins for this year dontcha think?
plum p |
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06.18.06 - 12:03 am | #
This "he's a rich guy, he can't be on your side" argument smacks of turd blossom.
blerb'
Look at the record: The Roosevelts, Kennedy, George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin. You don't want rich guys getting involved in politics.
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:03 am | #
This "he's a rich guy, he can't be on your side" argument smacks of turd blossom.
blerb'
Look at the record: The Roosevelts, Kennedy, George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin. You don't want rich guys getting involved in politics.
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:03 am | #
I think western Canada had enough wins for this year dontcha think?
plum p |
One more, eh?
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.18.06 - 12:03 am | #
Canadians age different. It's a fact.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil
Wouldn't all that crisp cold air keep them nice and young and fresh?
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:03 am | #
I can't understand how a veteran journalist like Leopold would allow under his byline, terms like "24 business hours" and Karl Rove having to to "get his affairs in order". At the worst, it was a goddamned indictment, not a death warrant.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 12:04 am | #
Nobody goes to a grand jury five times unless they were a big part of the action.
Rove will be indicted. Probably not for the identities protection act because he was never cleared to see her name in the first place at the time so the law doesn't apply his way, in full, in word. It does for intent and the spirit of the law but there's other items he can be charged with there.
As for the war powers defense, we weren't in war with Iraq at the time. Unless they can prove Afghanistan is tied to nuclear proliferation, there's an attempt to overlap theatres to present the argument in Rove's favor.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 12:05 am | #
Wouldn't all that crisp cold air keep them nice and young and fresh?
flory
Mostly, it's the life-affirming qualities of plaid flannel.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.18.06 - 12:06 am | #
Oh well. A big turd like Karl has to be shat out slow and deliberate.
B1 Bummer |
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06.18.06 - 12:07 am | #
One more, eh?
GWPDA
okay....but just 1 more
plum p |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:07 am | #
Haloscan is being particularly unpleasant tonite.
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:07 am | #
On a more positive note, I just got back from An Inconvenient Truth, which opened here yesterday. Fortunately for me it is playing in a theater less than a mile away, so I walked. 600-seat theater, I'd guess about 500 asses in seats for that showing.
Just wow. The audience was right there with Al, spontaneously applauding throughout the film. I wish they had released the DVD with it so I could send a copy to my parents. I understood immediately why so many are trying to undermine it.
Interestingly, some of the biggest applause came during the previews, in this case for The U.S. vs. John Lennon.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:07 am | #
Haloscan is being particularly unpleasant tonite.
flory
phew, it's not me!
plum p |
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06.18.06 - 12:08 am | #
I wonder about that. My suspicion is that Leopold has no sources to burn. I think that he made the story up, gambling that the rumors of an imminent Rove indictment would indeed turn out to be true. If that had happened, Leopold would have been in the position of claiming that he had "scooped" everyone else. The fact that many of the details of his story were false could be readily overlooked at that point.
Unfortunately for him, Leopold lost the bet.
This is my suspicion to the letter, except I usually throw in something about tea leaves.
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 12:08 am | #
Canada. It's Nerf USA.
B1 Bummer |
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06.18.06 - 12:08 am | #
i vaguely remember some question about Leopold's work before. if i have a burst of energy ill google that.
pretzelattack |
06.18.06 - 12:08 am | #
Well, here's Leopold's current claim, Rove was indeed indicted, but the indictment has been sealed...
You better know the secret knock, bubba, when it comes time to come north.... That's all I'm saying.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.18.06 - 12:09 am | #
The Iraq war payoffs continue -- WSJ --
World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz picks Iraq war ally Ana Palacio of Spain as the lender’s new senior vice president and general counsel. Palacio served as foreign minister under then-Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, who took fierce political heat at home for contributing troops to the U.S. war in Iraq. Spain withdrew its troops after Aznar’s conservative Popular Party lost to the Socialists in the wake of the Madrid train bombings.
In a letter to World Bank staff, Wolfowitz cites Palacio’s experience “strengthening ties with Middle East and Mediterranean nations” as one reason he’s bringing her on board. “Ms. Palacio demonstrated exceptional leadership and management capabilities when she served as Spain’s foreign minister,” he writes. Palacio, an attorney by training, is currently a member of the Spanish parliament.
P O'Neill |
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06.18.06 - 12:09 am | #
Wouldn't all that crisp cold air keep them nice and young and fresh?
flory
Or the humidity of SE TX. Like a constant moisturizer.
I would like to see Al's movie, too. Why the hell isn't he the president instead of that talking lint Shrubbo?
B1 Bummer |
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06.18.06 - 12:10 am | #
What does "GOP" stand for?
Is it Greed Over Patriotism? Gauging Oil Prices? Gays On Pitchforks? Got Only Probation? Guilty On Plame?
Mostly, it's the life-affirming qualities of plaid flannel.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil
Well beyond the Recommended Daily Dose.
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:10 am | #
Well, here's Leopold's current claim, Rove was indeed indicted, but the indictment has been sealed...
Well, here's my current claim. Truthout.com, you've fucked yourself.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 12:10 am | #
I can believe that, and it would explain why he hasn't burned them, as he said he would.
Which would make Truthout complicit, as they've claimed all along that he told them his sources and they felt they were credible.
So that's probably why Truthout refuses to sell out Leopold *or* his "sources".
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:11 am | #
Or, as I now call them, "Truthinessout".
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:11 am | #
Well beyond the Recommended Daily Dose.
flory
Hey! Health Canada's NEVER established a Minimum Daily Requirement for plaid!
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
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06.18.06 - 12:11 am | #
Its finally raining here. I love the sound and smell of rain.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.06 - 12:11 am | #
Well what would make any of us think bush would ever tell Rove to take a hike?
That was where he really took a chance with the story. It seems like something Rove would do to make the story about him so he start with his 'liberals are mad' appearances.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 12:12 am | #
Well what would make any of us think bush would ever tell Rove to take a hike?
That was where he really took a chance with the story. It seems like something Rove would do to make the story about him so he start with his 'liberals are mad' appearances.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 12:12 am | #
They won't let me in, probably. There was an incident with my little brother and one of his marsupial peckerwood pals going up there a decade or so ago. If they find out I'm related to him, they'll probably deport me to Tristan de Cunha.
B1 Bummer |
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06.18.06 - 12:12 am | #
Why the hell isn't he the president instead of that talking lint Shrubbo?
That, of course, is The Unavoidable Question one experiences halfway through the film.
On Leopold, having heard him a few times on Ed Schultz trying to explain wtf, I have to say he sounded very much like a guy whose dog ate his homework, except he's never had a dog.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:12 am | #
you go GWPDA!
plum p |
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06.18.06 - 12:12 am | #
World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz picks Iraq war ally Ana Palacio of Spain
I'm suddenly reminded of the end of Hellman's "The Little Foxes":
Ben: The world is wide open for people like us, Regina. We'll own this country some day, you see if we don't.
Or something like that. Hellman never imagined, I guess, the globalization of of those people.
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:13 am | #
Well, here's my current claim. Truthout.com, you've fucked yourself.
Max Planck
Well, here's Leopold's current claim, Rove was indeed indicted, but the indictment has been sealed...
"I was right, but it's a secret."
Which is *still* total bullshit, because his original story said Rove had *already* resigned, or was just about to.
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 12:14 am | #
marsupial peckerwood pals
Wasn't that the exceedingly unpopular spin-off of Teletubbies?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:14 am | #
Or the humidity of SE TX. Like a constant moisturizer.
Ooo, hot SETX.
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 12:14 am | #
Its finally raining here. I love the sound and smell of rain.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Mostly, it's the life-affirming qualities of plaid flannel.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil
Look what it did for
>Zelda Gilroy...
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 12:14 am | #
If they find out I'm related to him, they'll probably deport me to Tristan de Cunha.
B1 Bummer
It's okay. Here's the secret.
Plaid flannel. Swath yourself in it. Look sincere. Be faintly sticky and carry a jar of maple syrup. Look puzzled. You'll be fine.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:15 am | #
Ah, Paul Wolfobitz. Noted Comb-Sucking Deviant freakwad. What an utterly harmful, useless flake of human dandruff.
B1 Bummer |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:15 am | #
And Zelda is, I believe, a hunnert 'n four...
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 12:15 am | #
What does "GOP" stand for?
God Offal Pukes?
Greedy Oil Patriarchs.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:16 am | #
look puzzled. You'll be fine.
GWPDA
and don't forget to talk about hockey too
plum p |
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06.18.06 - 12:16 am | #
Hey! Health Canada's NEVER established a Minimum Daily Requirement for plaid!
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil
Mebbe. But we know what the LD-50 is.....
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:16 am | #
Occam's razor says Leopold is full of shit.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.06 - 12:16 am | #
i vaguely remember some question about Leopold's work before.
Here's a refresher...
Self-Made Scoop
Reporter tries to remove a stain by adding more dirt from his past http://www.villagevoice.com/
news...hy,61336,6.html
In late August 2002 Salon reported a major scoop: An e-mail linked then Army secretary Thomas White, a former executive at Enron, to an effort to cover the massive losses at the energy giant. White's supposed message instructed a subordinate: "Close a bigger deal. Hide the loss before the 1Q [first-quarter report]."
By early October, the scoop was scrapped: Salon retracted the story, saying it was "unable to independently confirm the authenticity" of the e-mail. What looked like a direct link between the Bush administration and the Enron debacle was shredded, and the career of Jason Leopold—the author of the piece—was destroyed.
Now Leopold has written a book that casts that episode as just one drama in a tumultuous life that includes years of drug addiction, a felony conviction Leopold hid from his employers, getting fired from a Los Angeles Times community paper for threatening a reporter, and leaving Dow Jones Energy Service after an inaccurate story got Leopold pulled from the Enron beat.
"This is stuff that I've really hidden my whole life," Leopold tells the Voice, adding that the book "really allowed me to purge all those feelings. I want to make sure I come across as totally, 100 percent honest."
Richard |
06.18.06 - 12:17 am | #
Well what would make any of us think bush would ever tell Rove to take a hike?
Bush may be dumb--is dumb, but he knows he can't win a fair fight, and he knows he needs the fight so unfair that only Rove can game it for him.
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:17 am | #
It's daylight in North-Western France.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.06 - 12:18 am | #
Yikes! Even worse was the Skeletubbies, featuring anatomically correct talking skeletal systems that were supposed to teach kids about manners and shit.
B1 Bummer |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:18 am | #
ouch! why isn't leopold a republican (hmm my conspiracy antennae go up)
pretzelattack |
06.18.06 - 12:18 am | #
It's daylight in North-Western France.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Is that where you are? sounds great!!
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:19 am | #
On Leopold, having heard him a few times on Ed Schultz trying to explain wtf, I have to say he sounded very much like a guy whose dog ate his homework, except he's never had a dog.
JeffCO |
Very much like W, except he never had homework.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 12:19 am | #
Occam's razor says Leopold is full of shit.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Occam says he doesn't need his razor to do his talking for him.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 12:19 am | #
Someone actually chase Jack off?
Phil Marmalade |
06.18.06 - 12:19 am | #
If I were an editor, I would just never hire anyone named Jason.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:19 am | #
Or the humidity of SE TX. Like a constant moisturizer.
I immediately regretted not throwing "steamy" in there.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:20 am | #
"This is stuff that I've really hidden my whole life," Leopold tells the Voice, adding that the book "really allowed me to purge all those feelings. I want to make sure I come across as totally, 100 percent honest."
Bush may be dumb--is dumb, but he knows he can't win a fair fight, and he knows he needs the fight so unfair that only Rove can game it for him.
Bush hasn't got a clue what a fair fight even is.
fourlegsgood |
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06.18.06 - 12:20 am | #
BTW, Saturn and Mars are in a fucking awesome conjunction in the western sky, only 1/2 degree apart.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:20 am | #
Crudya. Anyhoo, GOP stands for Got Onanistic PeePee.
B1 Bummer |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:21 am | #
Or the humidity of SE TX. Like a constant moisturizer.
Fuck that.
Like a constant, polluted steam bath. Blech.
fourlegsgood |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:21 am | #
Bush hasn't got a clue what a fair fight even is.
Just that it's to be avoided at all costs.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:21 am | #
Off to check out
Saturn and Mars. Back in a sec.
B1 Bummer |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:22 am | #
Britaney Spears is a knocked up whore AND her husband IS an idiot!
Terry C, Politikal Girl |
06.18.06 - 12:22 am | #
Is that where you are? sounds great!!
No such luck. Just watching the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.06 - 12:23 am | #
Someone actually chase Jack off?
Phil Marmalade
it wasn't jack, it was Toadstool
Bonne nuit GWPDA
plum p |
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06.18.06 - 12:23 am | #
Just that it's to be avoided at all costs.
Yes.
He'll never fire Rove. Never. No matter what he does. Because I believe Bush knows and approves of every evil thing that he does.
fourlegsgood |
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06.18.06 - 12:24 am | #
Rove already resigned- leopold was right. Rove changed jobs, they probably show Leopold his resignation for the post he transferred from and he runs with it...
Meanwhile Rove is promoted. by the way, Rove's latest 'promotion' includes no security clearance. hy has no reporter asked karl Rove about any Security news. Technically he's not cleared to confirm or deny any security now. perhaps someone could apply it to his fundraising trips?
Rove appeared in New Hampshire... let's see him try that act in New York. Step up to the plate, Eliot!
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 12:24 am | #
BTW, Saturn and Mars are in a fucking awesome conjunction in the western sky, only 1/2 degree apart.
JeffCO
Why do I suspect this is really Bad News, astrologically speaking?
Anyone know???
Sarah Deere |
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06.18.06 - 12:24 am | #
Or, you can always swath with a friend. No difference to us, so long as it's plaid.
No such luck. Just watching the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
The Old Man From Scene 2
Ach, I was hoping there were thatched roof cottages with DSL connections for rent on the Breton coast
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:25 am | #
Re: Leopold: What was that movie starring Leonardo DiCapria about the guy who was a fake pilot? He kept getting away with it. I think Leopold is a fake journo.
P.S. Hey Atrios, Why don't you have an ad on the side about Anderson Cooper's big interview with Fat Lips Hooolihan Jolie like they do in the CNN page? You could make a shitload of money if you ran it and we could look at her freakishly attractive face while discussing why the world's auch a miserable place.
Bad Art |
06.18.06 - 12:26 am | #
BTW, Saturn and Mars are in a fucking awesome conjunction in the western sky, only 1/2 degree apart.
JeffCO
We had defense lawyers up the ying-yang saying "5 grand jury visits = sure indictment".
David Shuster and hosts of other reporters pumping it up.
Leopold's source might be real or imagined. I'm not defending him.
He rolled the dice and they came up snake eyes.
HoneyBearKelly |
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06.18.06 - 12:27 am | #
He'll never fire Rove. Never. No matter what he does. Because I believe Bush knows and approves of every evil thing that he does.
fourlegsgood
Actually, I've always suspected that Rove gives Bush plausible deniability, and Bush trusts him to stick the knives wherever needed.
DemByDefault |
06.18.06 - 12:27 am | #
www.Truthinessout.borg? Can't bring it up, for some reason...
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 12:27 am | #
She said the problem is not the lying source, it's the fear that once you burn one, however deservedly, all your other sources will stop talking to you.
Even if one allows that this is an important and legitimate concern, it still remains that providing unconditional immunity from exposure fatally undermines the reliability of the information acquired from such sources. One demonstrable consequence of this status quo is that sources are free to lie, mislead, deceive, and manipulate both the reporter and the public unless and until they are tripped up. Does the name Judy³ ring a bell?
It seems like the ground rules need that good ol' fashioned paradigm shift. The basic contract between reporter and source should explicitly state that if it is clearly established that a source is playing fast and loose, it may expect to be burned.
(FWIW, on a related issue-- I am no fan of all of the sleazy practices law enforcement routinely resorts to out of alleged necessity and expedience, e.g. use of snitches/informants, sting operations, playing defendants off each other, etc.)
Little Brøther |
06.18.06 - 12:28 am | #
Ach, I was hoping there were thatched roof cottages with DSL connections for rent on the Breton coast
there probably are such rentals...
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.06 - 12:29 am | #
Ach, I was hoping there were thatched roof cottages with DSL connections for rent on the Breton coast
there probably are such rentals...
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.06 - 12:29 am | #
Out of the frying pan and into the fire! Jumping from the annual Sun-Pluto polarity to a Vesta-Saturn conjunction (11:56AM PDT) and a Mars-Saturn conjunction (11:05PM PDT) is no simple or easy task. Be careful you don't follow the foolish adventure of mythological Icarus and melt your wings by flying too close to the Sun. The Vesta-Saturn and Mars-Saturn unions are in fiery Leo. Be extra careful when it comes to your valuables, investments and property. Playing fast and loose with hard-earned savings is out of bounds. Reinforce safety and security measures around your residence. Make sure you are receiving sensible and trustworthy financial advice. Keep your distance from romantic liaisons and webs of intrigue while the red planet confers with the ringed planet.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:30 am | #
What was that movie starring Leonardo DiCapria about the guy who was a fake pilot?
Based on a true story. Fucker didn;t choose professions like accounting, or engineering office fucks where you can fairly easily smarm your way around for a good long time.
No, he went the airline pilot, doctor route, where pretty goddamned quickly you need to cough up some righteous know how in front of a bunch of folks.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 12:30 am | #
Off to check out Saturn and Mars. Back in a sec.
Crap - I just went out again and now there's clouds to the west. Beautiful view of Jupiter hanging in the Southern sky though. Scorpio too.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:30 am | #
Keep your distance from romantic liaisons and webs of intrigue while the red planet confers with the ringed planet.
So, Marcia... umm... How 'bout those Mets, huh?
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 12:30 am | #
Paul McCartney turns 64 today.
plum p |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:31 am | #
Paul McCartney turns 64 today.
Will we still need him?
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 12:32 am | #
Brad Pitt should have dumped Angelina because she's SO weird!
She's a WEIRD chick!
Terry C, Politikal Girl |
06.18.06 - 12:32 am | #
skippy examines the false premises the weekly standard op-ed piece promotes in its allegation that progressive blogs are losing influence here.
skippy |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:32 am | #
apparently she didnt still need him.
pretzelattack |
06.18.06 - 12:32 am | #
Mars & Saturn are only going to be visible just after sunset.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.06 - 12:34 am | #
goddess i miss you all. ach, take it from me: taking this netroots stuff seriously will change you. and only for the busier. gnight, beloved moonbats.
chicago dyke |
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06.18.06 - 12:34 am | #
In an exclusive interview with a New Hampshire "citizen activist network," President Bush's senior political adviser, Karl Rove, claimed that conservatives have broadened their appeal through the Internet while liberals have used it to "mobilize hate and anger," RAW STORY has found.
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Yeah Karl, little green footballs is a real "uniter not a divider" website.
Richard |
06.18.06 - 12:34 am | #
Because I believe Bush knows and approves of every evil thing that he does.
fourlegsgood
rove has prolly moved onward and upward to carry out the favors of cheney's corporate manufactured heart... lil boots is irrelevant.
pesty's bigger cousin |
06.18.06 - 12:34 am | #
Because I believe Bush knows and approves of every evil thing that he does.
fourlegsgood
rove has prolly moved onward and upward to carry out the favors of cheney's corporate manufactured heart... lil boots is irrelevant.
pesty's bigger cousin |
06.18.06 - 12:34 am | #
Marcia Brady∞
Thanks. I guess I was wrong. That just sorta sounds like my daily horoscope most of the time (every other week, for example)
Sarah Deere |
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06.18.06 - 12:35 am | #
Keep your distance from romantic liaisons and webs of intrigue while the red planet confers with the ringed planet. -Marcia Brady∞
Look, if you don't want me to come over later, just say so.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:36 am | #
going to smoke a joint on the patio, later...
plum p |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:36 am | #
Romantically intriguing?
If you're looking for a Lastings relationship, Nady.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:36 am | #
Mangelina. She still has Billy Bob residue, probably. Gee-ross.
B1 Bummer |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:36 am | #
On a more positive note, I just got back from An Inconvenient Truth
al gore is scheduled for an extended interview on countdown next week -- monday i think.
i am taking such delight in gore's endrun around the established chatterboxes; it must piss off tweety to no end that he hasn't had gore as a guest, seeing how he fancies himself such an in the know and major playa on the wdc political scene.
linda |
06.18.06 - 12:37 am | #
hmm its raining on the patio here.
pretzelattack |
06.18.06 - 12:37 am | #
Evening rational people! What tacky atrocities have I missed?
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:37 am | #
Evening rational people! What tacky atrocities have I missed?
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:37 am | #
Paul McCartney turns 64 today.
Will we still need him?
Eli |
gosh darn, I never did. I really, really dislike him, always have.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:37 am | #
Yes, although over time I must say that Macca is my least favorite Beatle, I still need him and would feed him.
Although I think he would sense my carnivorous propensities and recoil from me in repugnance. Sorry about that.
Ringo and I are having burgers.
Little Brøther |
06.18.06 - 12:37 am | #
Keep your distance from romantic liaisons and webs of intrigue while the red planet confers with the ringed planet.
Marcia Brady
Well, hell. There goes that wild weekend with Keith.....
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:38 am | #
Keep your distance from romantic liaisons and webs of intrigue while the red planet confers with the ringed planet. -Marcia Brady∞
Condi and Plamegate day at the White House...
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 12:38 am | #
Gahh.
I am so tired. Why did I go to the gym today?
Oh, right. Because I'm out of shape and needed to go.
fourlegsgood |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:39 am | #
Will we still need him?
Eli
I guess the latest wife didn't.....
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:39 am | #
Look, if you don't want me to come over later, just say so.
JeffCO
Aren't you far...like in CO?
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:39 am | #
it must piss off tweety to no end that he hasn't had gore as a guest, seeing how he fancies himself such an in the know and major playa on the wdc political scene.
Al could go on in a flightsuit. Tweety would cream himself.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:39 am | #
I wish Karl Rove all the good he deserves, and I wish he would get it post haste. Like, right fucking now.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:39 am | #
Paul McCartney turns 64 today.
I hope he dies before Roger Daltrey thinks he's old.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 12:40 am | #
Aren't you far...like in CO? -Marcia Brady∞
Is that a problem?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:40 am | #
If you're looking for a Lastings relationship, Nady.
Eli
You realize I have no idea what you're talking about...
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:40 am | #
I am so tired. Why did I go to the gym today?
Oh, right. Because I'm out of shape and needed to go.
Or you could just walk around taking pictures for four hours.
Exercise just makes your *body* hurt.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:40 am | #
Oh, well. Other stuff calls. Have a nice rest of the weekend.
B1 Bummer |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:40 am | #
I am so tired. Why did I go to the gym today?
I think you answered your own question there.
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:41 am | #
Is that a problem?
JeffCO
Well, it kind of makes the whole coming over tonight conundrum a little moot.
Or mute, as my sister would say.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:41 am | #
You realize I have no idea what you're talking about...
I guess you're not a Mets fan, then...
Aren't you far...like in CO? -Marcia Brady∞
Is that a problem?
She can't even make it as far as Pittsburgh. Hell, she can't even make it as far as *Manhattan* when I'm in town.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:41 am | #
Exercise just makes your *body* hurt.
Eli
That's always been my assessment of it, too
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:41 am | #
"I Pinch", he was quoted as sayinÔ?
Chris Tucker |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:42 am | #
4Legs,
Mr. Plushy is adorably cute and cuddly tonight.
Sandy-LA 90034 |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:42 am | #
Well, it kind of makes the whole coming over tonight conundrum a little moot.
I said later, not how much later....
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:42 am | #
Anyone remember an old novel called the Dwarf? About a evil little guy that did all the kings poisoning and strangling etc? I think Karl used it as a guide book.
bubb |
06.18.06 - 12:43 am | #
Eli is on the cover of the Boston PHOENIX!
Would that I led such a happy life.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:43 am | #
She can't even make it as far as Pittsburgh. Hell, she can't even make it as far as *Manhattan* when I'm in town.
Eli
Shhhh, she can hear you.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:43 am | #
Joel Osteen is an apostate. A false teacher and worshipper of Mammon. He makes me want to puke.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.18.06 - 12:44 am | #
She can't even make it as far as Pittsburgh. Hell, she can't even make it as far as *Manhattan* when I'm in town.
Eli
And what prevents you from crossing a bridge or two?
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:44 am | #
I said later, not how much later....
JeffCO
Aaah, there I go with my assumptions again.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:44 am | #
Would that I led such a happy life.
Eli
Would that your claws were that big in real life.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:44 am | #
Eli is on the cover of the Boston PHOENIX!
He's just trying to impress Jodie Foster. Literally.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:44 am | #
Shhhh, she can hear you.
What's her point?
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:44 am | #
And what prevents you from crossing a bridge or two?
I guess I've been crossing the wrong ones...
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:45 am | #
Will we still need him?
Eli |
gosh darn, I never did. I really, really dislike him, always have.
Lennon/McCartney were The Beatles.
Team effort and all that, at least in the early days.
Steve French |
06.18.06 - 12:46 am | #
I'm tired of reading doctoral theses! I want FLIRTING!
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:46 am | #
'm tired of reading doctoral theses! I want FLIRTING!
R. Manhammer | 06.18.06 - 12:46 am | #
Where's Thers when you need him?
Sandy-LA 90034 |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:46 am | #
My wife had on a television programme last night - Britney Spears interview. This porcine little harlot will be fellating cab drivers in another ten years. Her 15 minutes are up.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.18.06 - 12:46 am | #
I'm tired of reading doctoral theses! I want FLIRTING!
R. Manhammer
Come sit over here by me....
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:47 am | #
I want tacky gossip!
I want to know what moronic crap Pasty has been up to!
I want LIFE!
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:47 am | #
Aaah, there I go with my assumptions again. -Marcia Brady∞
Feel free to assume any position you'd like; I'll accommodate.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:47 am | #
I'm tired of reading doctoral theses! I want FLIRTING!
So....
What are you wearing?
Steve French |
06.18.06 - 12:47 am | #
Paul: "Will you still feed me, will you still need me, when I'm 64?"
Heather: "Um.... No!"
Chris Tucker |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:48 am | #
Where's Thers when you need him?
Sandy-LA 90034
Well, if there's substantial eatage on the SciFi channel, he's watching TV. Otherwise, I dunno.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:48 am | #
What's with all the vitriol against Brittney Spears? Expend it on someone who deserves it -- like Julia Roberts.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:49 am | #
If Paul McCartney were an Amerikan, he'd take Heather's prothetic leg and beat her to death with it.
My God, the British are more fucked up than we are.
Its enough to trie the patience of Job that John and George should be taken ahead of this booby.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.18.06 - 12:49 am | #
Come sit over here by me....
flory
Oooh! Excellent! Best offer I've had all week. What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:49 am | #
People try to put us down,
Just cuz we're richer than 5,000 of you combined!
Talkin' bout our generation.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 12:50 am | #
Expend it on someone who deserves it -- like Julia Roberts. -Marcia Brady∞
Something silky. Something sultry. Something that I can barely keep on....
Big boy....
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:50 am | #
Feel free to assume any position you'd like; I'll accommodate.
JeffCO
Goodness! All that fresh Colorado air is making someone frisky.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:50 am | #
Personally, I think McCartney is a major jerk, but ultimately, he was the most talented and versatile of the Beatles. His stuff on "Revolver" in particular is utter genius.
Richard |
06.18.06 - 12:51 am | #
I just saw Mar Adentro (which really means "out to sea" not "the sea inside").
Lovely movie.
Alejandro Amenábar is a very good director.
Sleepy now.
Buenas noches.
HoneyBearKelly |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:51 am | #
What did she do?
JeffCO
I do not care for Julia Roberts. Frankly, I don't think she's that hot. At all.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:51 am | #
What's with all the vitriol against Brittney Spears? Expend it on someone who deserves it -- like Julia Roberts.
Marcia Brady
She's the one that thinks we should just trust our preznit, remember?
Its enough to trie the patience of Job that John and George should be taken ahead of this booby.
James Jesus Rimbaud
That's Sir booby to you.....
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:51 am | #
Did the Atriots watch the Sci-Fi movie earlier this eveninig? I missed the comments.
Sandy-LA 90034 |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 12:51 am | #
What did she do?
JeffCO
Nothing. She just bugs me.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:52 am | #
What's with all the vitriol against Brittney Spears? Expend it on someone who deserves it -- like Julia Roberts.
She looks like a horse and she did "pretty woman" with that "Gerbil up his ass" guy!
Terry C, Stupid bint |
06.18.06 - 12:52 am | #
What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
R. Manhammer
I come here for the shoe porn. How about you?
flory |
06.18.06 - 12:52 am | #
Put a blonde mop on the fucker and 64 year old Paul McCartney becomes the third pillar of an unholy trinity, the first two being Rod Stewart and Barry Manilow. Its fine to superannuate your talent, but you ought to have the decency to die or dissappear from public view.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.18.06 - 12:52 am | #
Goodness! All that fresh Colorado air is making someone frisky. -Marcia Brady∞
Are you saying there's some other way to be? Who knew?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:53 am | #
I come here for the shoe porn. How about you?
flory
The same. There really isn't a lot of other reasons to come here. The beer is warm and the service is poor. But I like it here.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:54 am | #
Nothing. She just bugs me. -Marcia Brady∞
Just for you I vow never to ask her out.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:55 am | #
She's the one that thinks we should just trust our preznit, remember?
If superannuated talent is tonight's topic, when do we discuss the Rolling Stones?
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:55 am | #
Anonymous
What's with all the bullshit?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:56 am | #
Just for you I vow never to ask her out.
JeffCO
That's really all I ask.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 12:56 am | #
Nothing. She just bugs me.
-Marcia Brady∞
Well, that's it. I'll toss the trollop out in the morning!
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 12:57 am | #
Put a blonde mop on the fucker and 64 year old Paul McCartney becomes the third pillar of an unholy trinity, the first two being Rod Stewart and Barry Manilow. Its fine to superannuate your talent, but you ought to have the decency to die or dissappear from public view.
James Jesus Rimbaud
If Jimi Hendrix were alive today he be singing a duet of 'Ebony and Ivory' with Paul McCartney.
Sometimes it's better to die young.
.
Agent Orange |
06.18.06 - 12:57 am | #
for anyone in nyc -- pbs is showing the 30year retrospective on watergate; it just started.
linda |
06.18.06 - 12:57 am | #
McCartney was the silliest sellout of the Beatles (Ebony and Ivory?).
Yet he had an angelic voice, was a superb bass player, and was from say '66 on, the driving force behind the Beatles.
And for that alone, I salute him.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 12:58 am | #
she did "pretty woman" with that "Gerbil up his ass" guy!
I know his sister-in-law; she lives in Denver.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 12:58 am | #
There's somthing endearing about a 64 year old drug addict who looks like nothing so much as a 64 year old drug addict falling out of palm tree. I'll give all the Stones except Mick a pass. He really has superannuated his talent.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.18.06 - 12:59 am | #
julia roberts doesn't seem to be the threat to her children's health the way spears most certainly is. the latest was her romp at the beach where photos of that baby showed him to be red as a beet. .
linda |
06.18.06 - 1:01 am | #
The beer is warm and the service is poor. But I like it here.
R. Manhammer
Bad puns. Boyz without pants. Trolls.
It's odd, but its home.....
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:02 am | #
Is it just me, or do famous people go into "celebritard" status around infants? There was Michael Jackson dangling the infant. There was the Aligator Idiot and the infant. And now Britney and the infant.
I'm seeing a pattern here....
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:03 am | #
julia roberts doesn't seem to be the threat to her children's health the way spears most certainly is. the latest was her romp at the beach where photos of that baby showed him to be red as a beet.
Well he is at least half redneck.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:03 am | #
There's somthing endearing about a 64 year old drug addict who looks like nothing so much as a 64 year old drug addict falling out of palm tree. I'll give all the Stones except Mick a pass. He really has superannuated his talent.
James Jesus Rimbaud
All of them need to move into the home and give the rest of us a break, if you ask me.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:03 am | #
I don't like Julia Roberts either. I've never understood what the big hoo-hah's about with her -- people carry on like she's the next Audrey Hepburn and I totally don't see it.
strawhat |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:04 am | #
"A stepdaughter of Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif., chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, has a second Washington job, working for a lobbyist who has business before the committee, the Washington Post will report in Sunday papers. "
The Dukestir circus goes on...
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 1:04 am | #
Bad puns. Boyz without pants. Trolls.
It's odd, but its home.....
flory
I'm good for the first two. Lets talk cheap, emotionally meaningless flirtation for a bit.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:04 am | #
Bad puns. Boyz without pants. Trolls.
It's odd, but its home.....
flory
The National Organization of the Keith Olbermann Sexual Fantasy Fanclub...
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:04 am | #
Its enough to trie the patience of Job that John and George should be taken ahead of this booby.
Especially George. Frosted my balls that Jeff Lynn had to finish his work for Brainwashed.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:04 am | #
All of them need to move into the home and give the rest of us a break, if you ask me.
flory
Look, if you can't appreciate a 90-year-old man in stretchy pants gyrating on stage, then you're just dead inside.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:06 am | #
The Dukestir circus goes on...
Mr.Murder
Just a 'few bad apples' as usual in Republican Bizarro World. Let's look toward the future not the past - unless of course we're talking about Democrats!
.
Agent Orange |
06.18.06 - 1:07 am | #
Look, if you can't appreciate a 90-year-old man in stretchy pants gyrating on stage, then you're just dead inside.
Marcia Brady∞
Out of morbid curiosity, does retching at the sight of the aforementioned man in stretchy pants count as "appreciation?"
I'd hate to have to line up on the "dead inside" side. I'm already rhythm-challenged.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:07 am | #
Frosted my balls
Ok, I can understand that shaving has gone mainstream, but frosting? That's seems a bit too far.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:07 am | #
Re: McCartney, as I said, gee, I dunno, at least months ago. I;m old, so kinear time means so little. Why, I remember when I was about six, and my cousins and I threw my grandmother's clothespins off tjhe little bridge that went over the creek at the far end of her property and....(snorts, blinks)...wait, wait, what I meant to say was...McCartney...oh, yeah,. I remember, now....I've always seen him as the British Barry Manilow.....
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:09 am | #
I'm already rhythm-challenged. - R. Manhammer
Would you like me to hit you with my rhythm stick?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:09 am | #
Ok, I can understand that shaving has gone mainstream, but frosting? That's seems a bit too far.
JeffCO
In competitive tea-bagging, frosting gives just the edge one needs to be a contender!
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:09 am | #
I'll swell the chorus of "never could see what the fuss is about Julia Roberts".
She's OK, but not dazzling in the least.
Little Brøther |
06.18.06 - 1:09 am | #
NOT Greg Kinnear time, I meant LINEAR time....at least, I think I did.....
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:10 am | #
Would you like me to hit you with my rhythm stick?
JeffCO
*raises eyebrow*
I didn't know it was that kind of place. Let me get my rope and cuffs.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:10 am | #
Re: Shaved Balls
A little ditty for your late night viewing pleasure (1.5 minute video)
The Home away from Home you don't have to leave Home for...
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 1:11 am | #
Why do the Beatles keep dying off, yet the Stones keep wheelchairing along?
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 1:11 am | #
Would you like me to hit you with my rhythm stick?
Two fat [somethings], click click click!
(Actually, that's three, but who's counting)
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:11 am | #
Ok, I can understand that shaving has gone mainstream, but frosting?
It's all the latest among the Carson Daly crowd...
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:11 am | #
I;m old, so kinear time means so little.
You didn't like Talk Soup?
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:12 am | #
Aw c'mon, Sir Paul isn't that bad. Yes, he's responsible for some desperately smarmy pop music but he's also responsible for "The Long and Winding Road" and "Let It Be." I've always liked him a lot.
strawhat |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:12 am | #
*raises eyebrow*
I guess you're not much of a blockhead then, eh?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:12 am | #
I wish I'd watched the bats tonite. I've been watching Capote, which has to be the most boring movie I've seen in years.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:13 am | #
The Dukestir circus goes on...
Mr.Murder
tpm has a copy of the letter dhs originally denied having, but miraculously found. the notable thing to me was the signature:
Randy 'Duke' Cunningham
how pathetic that he actually signed using his nickname in quotes.
linda |
06.18.06 - 1:13 am | #
I'll swell the chorus of "never could see what the fuss is about Julia Roberts".
She's OK, but not dazzling in the least.
A few months ago, someone who was completely underwhelmed by her on screen saw her in a restaurant, and was just blown away by how gorgeous she was in person.
Not that this really explains anything, I just thought it was odd.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:14 am | #
Two fat [somethings], click click click!
(Actually, that's three, but who's counting)
Eli | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:11 am | #
Persons, IIRC.
Man...Ian Dury was awful, in my book.
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:14 am | #
I'm good for the first two. Lets talk cheap, emotionally meaningless flirtation for a bit.
R. Manhammer
My flirtations are fraught with meaning and emotion!
The National Organization of the Keith Olbermann Sexual Fantasy Fanclub...
Marcia Brady
Of which I am preznit.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:15 am | #
A few months ago, someone who was completely underwhelmed by her on screen saw her in a restaurant, and was just blown away by how gorgeous she was in person.
Not that this really explains anything, I just thought it was odd.
Eli |
Some people when seen in person really radiate their fantastic wealth.
.
Agent Orange |
06.18.06 - 1:16 am | #
It's all the latest among the Carson Daly crowd... -Toadstool
Ugh - I accidently saw some of that last night (?) - Jolene Blalock was on and seemed as incapable of producing a coherent sentence as he was of asking a coherent question. Capping it off was Jaime Kennedy mugging like his life depended on it in the background. Such a sorry spectacle.
If only she'd brought the ears....
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:16 am | #
Jeez. I chased everyone away with my drunken slur against Ian Dury.
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:16 am | #
All of them need to move into the home and give the rest of us a break, if you ask me.
flory
I'm of more than one mind about this, all kidding aside.
If people who play other kinds of music besides rock n' roll get to keep on keeping on until death, why not the Stones (as one example)?
Since I'm their age, they are not disgusting to me as they must surely be to young folks.
One of the reasons I appreciate them is, they don't go away quietly. They're still out there, gyrating, if you will.
I imagine the very thought of us ancients even having sex lives might appall you youngsters, but, I assure you, we do. This actually should be of some comfport to you, since you (like we) will not be young forever.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:17 am | #
Out of morbid curiosity, does retching at the sight of the aforementioned man in stretchy pants count as "appreciation?"
R. Manhammer
I dunno. Do you retch at the sight of a pretty girl in a light summer dress?
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:17 am | #
Of which I am preznit.
I hate to break this to you, but he's banging Rita Cosby.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:17 am | #
A few months ago, someone who was completely underwhelmed by her on screen saw her in a restaurant, and was just blown away by how gorgeous she was in person. - Eli
Are you making fun of my JR story?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:17 am | #
I guarantee you Britney refers to the child as Tater in private. Probably already bought it its first four-wheeler. Madonna, something of a tart herself, rolled Britney and left her for dead along the road of irrelevancy. You can already see the fat person in her waiting to come out. There are two choices - a latter day Shelley Winters playing matronly support roles, or Anna Nicole Smith path.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.18.06 - 1:17 am | #
All music inevitably wilted into expensive noise after Stu Sutcliffe died.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 1:17 am | #
Not that this really explains anything, I just thought it was odd.
Eli |
I saw Drew Barrymore at a party a few years back and was pretty impressed. Never gave her a thought, but she was gawgeous. No make-up at all, either.
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:18 am | #
Evening, all.
Nothing else witty, or even interesting,
to say right now.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:18 am | #
I guess you're not much of a blockhead then, eh?
JeffCO
Not in that sense, no. What part of "rhythm challenged" was unclear?
I'm an utter waste of non-musical protoplasm. Srsly. My mom should have gotten her money back for my piano lessons.
I do dig on chick harmony, though, for reasons that I don't care to explore.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:18 am | #
Jeez. I chased everyone away with my drunken slur against Ian Dury.
I'm only partially here. Took another 630 photos today, so I'm Processy Galore tonight. Only 500 to go!
Won't be here much longer, though - I need to get up early tomorrow so I can walk to softball and... take pictures. Gah.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:18 am | #
A few months ago, someone who was completely underwhelmed by her on screen saw her in a restaurant, and was just blown away by how gorgeous she was in person.
Not that this really explains anything, I just thought it was odd.
Eli
Jill said that about Kate Moss. Actually, she also says that Benicio del Toro exudes animal magnetism in person.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:19 am | #
"Sir" Paul is a fuckwad. Sez me, and I mean that. I really dislike about 99% of his music.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
My flirtations are fraught with meaning and emotion!
flory
We are such a poor match.
Kiss me, you fool!
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
I saw Drew Barrymore at a party a few years back and was pretty impressed. Never gave her a thought, but she was gawgeous. No make-up at all, either.
I never really thought of her as beautiful, but I do find her disarmingly charming in a goofy sort of way.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
I exude animal magnetism in person. Until my wife reminds me to take a shower anyways.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
If people who play other kinds of music besides rock n' roll get to keep on keeping on until death, why not the Stones (as one example)?
When I saw Charles Mingus, he almost had to be carried on stage. But I don't recall anyone saying, "Man, he's too old for this shit."
But he really wasn't marketed the same way the Stones were, as eternally young "rebels"...
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
Shelley Winters playing matronly support roles
Shelley Winters greatest moment - telling the entire country in the late 60s on the Tonight Show that Jerry Mathers, the real Beaver Cleaver was killed in VietNam.
Of course he wasn't.
.
Agent Orange |
06.18.06 - 1:21 am | #
I still regularly listen to both Band on the Run and Venus and Mars. Sue me.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
I never really thought of her as beautiful, but I do find her disarmingly charming in a goofy sort of way.
Eli | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
I'd never given her a thought one way or the other. But yeah...charming was the word. And kind of radiant.
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
We are such a poor match.
Kiss me, you fool!
R. Manhammer
A doomed relationship. Cool.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
I still regularly listen to both Band on the Run and Venus and Mars. Sue me.
JeffCO | 06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
Not a fan of Wild Life?
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
Shelley Winters playing matronly support roles
Ol' Shelley drowned a lot in her roles.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
I dunno. Do you retch at the sight of a pretty girl in a light summer dress?
Marcia Brady∞
No, of course not. I do the old guy thing and suck in my tummy while wiping the drool off my chin.
Why do you ask?
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
I still regularly listen to both Band on the Run and Venus and Mars. Sue me.
JeffCO
You'll be hearing from my attorney.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:22 am | #
I imagine the very thought of us ancients even having sex lives might appall you youngsters, but, I assure you, we do. This actually should be of some comfport to you, since you (like we) will not be young forever.
Sarah Deere
They're not that much older than me. I just think their act has grown tired. It worked in the 60's and 70's. It's a little dated in the 21st century.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:23 am | #
Why do you ask?
R. Manhammer
Just trying to assess the nexus of your puking and your appreciation.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:23 am | #
"Sir" Paul is a fuckwad. Sez me, and I mean that. I really dislike about 99% of
his music.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
He wrote "For No One" and "Here,
There and Everywhere."
Other mortals need not apply.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:23 am | #
My at a distance impression of Drew is that her charm is at least in part from a seeming lack of pretense. She may have burned it off during her drug-addled teen years. That and she seems genuinely to care about things other than acting.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:24 am | #
My at a distance impression of Drew is that her charm is at least in part from a seeming lack of pretense.
Yep. Seems completely unaware that she's a "movie star". Seems like she would happily converse with pretty much anyone.
Eli |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:25 am | #
You know who I think really does light up the screen in the most spectacular way, and I can't understand why she's not a big above-the-title star, is Catherine Zeta Jones. What is she doing with cell phone commercials, for God's sake??
strawhat |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:25 am | #
He wrote "For No One" and "Here,
There and Everywhere."
Other mortals need not apply.
steve simels | 06.18.06 - 1:23 am | #
I never really got the McCartney hatred. Seems like a pretty talented guy to me. And John Lennon was certainly churning out Manilowesque slush too, for a long while there.
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:25 am | #
{{smoooooooch}}
flory
That was sooo nice!
I can't understand why Thers is so against this sort of thing.
Here, let me gently nibble the side of your neck...
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:25 am | #
"Sir" Paul is a fuckwad. Sez me, and I mean that. I really dislike about 99% of
his music.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:20 am | #
Assuming you're not a troll or a troll
impersonating you....
The best I can say about you is that
you're trying to hard to be an
iconoclast.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
Art Bell has returned to Coast. He's on now with a really good connection from the Phillipines.
Ô¿Ô |
06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
Out of the frying pan and into the fire! Jumping from the annual Sun-Pluto polarity to a Vesta-Saturn conjunction (11:56AM PDT) and a Mars-Saturn conjunction (11:05PM PDT) is no simple or easy task.
That's interesting. Evidently North Korea ordered the populace to raise flags and watch the TV at that time, and they're announcing plans to launch a new missle. Not sure if they're actually firing it or not.
pixie |
06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
My at a distance impression of Drew is that her charm is at least in part from a seeming lack of pretense.
Personally, I like the twins.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
I also listen to Plastic Ono Band and Imagine and Double Fantasy, as well as All Things Must Pass.
And say what you want, I like most of Back To The Egg.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
And John Lennon was certainly churning out Manilowesque slush too, for a long while there.
Phila
That was the Qaaludes, I think.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 1:27 am | #
Apropos of nothing in particular, and in all sincerity, I'm utterly bummed that polar bears are endangered.
I love bears!
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:27 am | #
Just trying to assess the nexus of your puking and your appreciation.
Marcia Brady∞
I may be old, but I'm not insane.
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:29 am | #
The best I can say about you is that
you're trying to hard to be an
iconoclast.
steve simels | 06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
I know I just defended the guy...but I'm not sure you can have an icon in the absence of belief.
Or maybe you can. Beats me. I'm sloshed anyhow.
Phila |
Homepage |
06.18.06 - 1:30 am | #
sigh
OK, now we go home.
'Night rational people!
R. Manhammer |
06.18.06 - 1:31 am | #
And say what you want, I like most of Back To The Egg.
JeffCO | 06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
I wouldn't say most, but it definitely
has its moments.
In any case, who amongst us here has
made as great music as McCartney did
in the Beatles?
Hellooo.....?????
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:31 am | #
I really really miss the Ramones.
Just sayin'.
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 1:31 am | #
Apropos of nothing in particular, and in all sincerity, I'm utterly bummed that polar bears are endangered.
There's an animation of that in Al's movie, which reminds me of my biggest LOL moment in the film that involves his appropriation of another animated clip explaining global warming. Maybe I should leave it a surprise.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:31 am | #
I really really miss the Ramones.
Just sayin'.
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MisterX | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:31 am | #
I find it totally shocking that there
are only two living Beatles.
But in a weird way, I find it even more
shocking that there are only two living
original Ramones.
My at a distance impression of Drew is that her charm is at least in part from a seeming lack of pretense.
Yep. Seems completely unaware that she's a "movie star". Seems like she would happily converse with pretty much anyone.
Eli
I read or saw something where she was in a dressing room at some store trying on clothes and some girl recognized her. She was really nice and talked to this girl's mother on her cell.
And anyone who was married to Tom Greene can't have any pretense left.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:33 am | #
The Abby Road medley still blows me away.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:34 am | #
Make that one original Ramone???
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:34 am | #
Trying to blame Paul for the breakup of the Beatles, as some have done, or even Yoko, is kind of silly, when you consider it's a freaking miracle four guys that talented and different stayed together as long as they did, through the Hell that being THE BEAYTLES!!! had to be. It would have killed lesser beings. Has, in fact...
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 1:34 am | #
In any case, who amongst us here has
made as great music as McCartney did
in the Beatles?
Hellooo.....?????
steve simels | 06.18.06 - 1:31 am | #
I had someone make the same objection when I trashed Boston, once. Had I ever written anything as good as "More Than a Feeling"?
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:35 am | #
I wouldn't say most, but it definitely has its moments.
Hmm, well I wasn't counting, but I definitely like the Rockestra stuff.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:35 am | #
And anyone who was married to Tom Greene can't have any pretense left.
I hated Tom Green with the white-hot passion of a thousand suns until he hosted SNL. "Dog Show!" may have been the turning point.
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 1:36 am | #
There's an animation of that in Al's movie, which reminds me of my biggest LOL moment in the film that involves his appropriation of another animated clip explaining global warming. Maybe I should leave it a surprise.
JeffCO
I saw An Inconvenient Truth at a mid-town theater, and it was sold out. NYC loves it some Al Gore.
I was thinking of making a movie called And Inconvenient Cat, but I decided that would be redundent.
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:36 am | #
And anyone who was married to Tom Greene can't have any pretense left. -Marcia Brady∞
The Abby Road medley still blows me away.
Toadstool
They knew it at the time, they were done. Few even try to cover it, though if they could nail it, bands like U2 would get massive audience approval if they did.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 1:37 am | #
Wow. 1:30a.
Should I stay or should I go...
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:38 am | #
But in a weird way, I find it even more
shocking that there are only two living
original Ramones.
Seriously.
steve simels
I was a bit too young for the Beatles... my older sisters caught on to the tail-end of that whole thing, and I soaked in it as a lad (heh). The Ramones were music for my cohort, those graduating from high school in the late '70s... and I never thought they'd be gone before I was 45. I guess that's a good thing... they won't be doing reunion shows and crappy retrospectives when they're fucking 65. And that's probably a good thing.
I just thought they'd be around longer than they were, that's all.
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 1:38 am | #
I can't understand why Thers is so against this sort of thing.
143 kids. He knows what this sort of thing leads to........
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:38 am | #
Art Bell has returned to Coast. He's on now with a really good connection from
the Phillipines.
Ô¿Ô | 06.18.06 - 1:26 am | #
Art Bell is a tool.
He empowers moronic conspiracy nuts,
and he knows it.
He hasn't a shred of credibility, and
he leaves the world a stupider place
than he found it.
C'mon == you don't take him seriously,
do you?
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:39 am | #
What the hell - enjoy the global warming clip here if you're of a mind.
Apparently some idiot flagged it as possibly objectionable. Wingnut no doubt.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:40 am | #
They knew it at the time, they were done.
Someone here said they had a studio bootleg of the practice sessions. I'd give cherished parts of my body to obtain a copy.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:41 am | #
"Junk" is lovely and poignant...
Buy buy, says the sign in the shop window
Why why, says the junk in the yard
Little Brøther |
06.18.06 - 1:42 am | #
The Ramones were music for my cohort, those graduating from high school in the late '70s... and I never thought they'd be gone before I was 45.
It's interesting. Sounds like I'm roughly the same age as you, but to me and my pals in high-school they came across as a novelty act...I guess it was that whole nostalgic-sounding girl-group style they had.
But since that time, I've met people who really related to them strongly...passionately, even. Missed out, I guess...but they just never did a thing for me.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:42 am | #
I saw An Inconvenient Truth at a mid-town theater, and it was sold out. NYC loves it some Al Gore.
It was sold out in Mill Valley when I saw it.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:42 am | #
They knew it at the time, they were done. Few even try to cover it, though if they could nail it, bands like U2 would get massive audience approval if they did.
Max Planck
Paul and his Wings guitarist did it live in the '90s. The Get back tour, I think. (I had a VHS I made of a live broadcast, which had since gone walkies on me). They nailed it pretty good, I thought. Paul can play that shit better than a lot of folx realize. He could have been a Guitar God, if he'd wanted, I think. When you're that multitalented, though, you don't focus like that,I guess.
Elmer, PHD |
06.18.06 - 1:43 am | #
Someone here said they had a studio bootleg of the practice sessions. I'd give cherished parts of my body to obtain a copy. -Toadstool
You can find them regularly on usenet.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:43 am | #
Should I stay or should I go...
Marcia Brady
I'm about ready to go, and it's only 10:30 hereabouts.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:43 am | #
Should I stay or should I go...
Marcia Brady
I'm about ready to go, and it's only 10:30 hereabouts.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:43 am | #
It was sold out in Mill Valley when I saw it.
flory | 06.18.06 - 1:42 am | #
Oooh, didn't know we were neighbors. Why are we always settling for online sex?
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:44 am | #
"Junk" is lovely and poignant...
Absolutely.
A McCartney throw-away that most
other people would have killed to
have written...
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:45 am | #
You can find them regularly on usenet.
Group? Maybe I can save some parts.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:46 am | #
I'm about ready to go, and it's only 10:30 hereabouts.
flory
Let's go. Shall I spoon you, or do you want to spoon me?
Marcia Brady∞ |
06.18.06 - 1:46 am | #
Steve, you like Sandy Denny, don't you? Have you seen this?
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:46 am | #
Should I stay or should I go... -Marcia Brady
The question is, when they kick out your front door, how you gonna come: with your hands on your head or on the trigger of your gun?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:46 am | #
Steve, you like Sandy Denny, don't you? Have you seen this?
Has anyone ever clicked on that "Eugene Mirman - Video From The Future" thing? It really is as crappy as it looks. And not in a good way.
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 1:49 am | #
He was against going to war in Iraq and received alot of flak for it from wingnut listeners.
Ô¿Ô |
06.18.06 - 1:49 am | #
I absolutely ADORE Sandy Denny, but
unfortunately I'm on dial-up and
I can't access YouTube.
Alas.
steve simels | 06.18.06 - 1:48 am | #
Watch it when you can. It's pretty phenomenal...it's her playing material from "North Star Ravens" solo.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:50 am | #
Where are you?
flory | 06.18.06 - 1:49 am | #
Up the road a piece.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:50 am | #
Let's go. Shall I spoon you, or do you want to spoon me?
Marcia Brady
Well now -- there has been mention of online sex. I may just stick around for a bit.....
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:51 am | #
Art Bell is my hero. You totally don't get it about him.
Ô¿Ô | 06.18.06 - 1:47 am | #
Oh, stop it.
He's a sub-X-FILES phony.
No fact checking whatsoever.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:51 am | #
When you're that multitalented, though, you don't focus like that,I guess.
Elmer, PHD
Paul McCartney was one of the tightest, most melodic, when the score called for it, and most percussive, when it was needed, bass players in the storied history of rock music.
And that's just a fucking fact.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 1:52 am | #
absolutely ADORE Sandy Denny, but unfortunately I'm on dial-up and I can't access YouTube.
steve - how are you with hi res scans of your favorite actresses? How about a bit of Rita Hayworth?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:52 am | #
Well now -- there has been mention of online sex. I may just stick around for a bit.....
flory | 06.18.06 - 1:51 am | #
I'm drunk AND shirtless, I'll have you know.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:52 am | #
He wrote "For No One" and "Here,
There and Everywhere."
Other mortals need not apply.
steve simels
steve, I just did NOT like him. It's one of those things. I think he's not above thievery. I think he's not a decent person. Call it what you like. I'm not a John worshiper, either. Liked George. Ringo's probably the most honest.
But, wtf do I know.
Sarah Deere |
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06.18.06 - 1:53 am | #
Up the road a piece.
Phila
Up there in the wine country?
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:53 am | #
Art Bell is the greatest talk radio host the world, indeed, the universe, has ever known.
Ô¿Ô |
06.18.06 - 1:53 am | #
Up there in the wine country?
flory | 06.18.06 - 1:53 am | #
Close to it.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:54 am | #
Paul McCartney was one of the tightest, most melodic, when the score called for
it, and most percussive, when it was needed, bass players in the storied history
of rock music.
And that's just a fucking fact.
Max Planck | 06.18.06 - 1:52 am | #
Word.
It's too bad the poor old guy is
being taken to the cleaners by his
gold-digging girlfriend, but the
cat wrote some of the best music of
the 20th century. And for that he
deserves our gratitude in perpetuity.
He was a fucking Beatle, for christs
sake.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 1:55 am | #
Up there in the wine country?
flory | 06.18.06 - 1:53 am | #
Close to it.
I might have to give y'all a heads-up the next time I visit my mom in Sonoma County...
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 1:55 am | #
I'm drunk AND shirtless, I'll have you know.
NO FLIRTING.
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 1:55 am | #
But, wtf do I know.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:53 am | #
Your own mind?
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:55 am | #
I think he's not above thievery. I think he's not a decent person.
But he was the *nice* one!
I'm drunk AND shirtless, I'll have you know.
Phila
I might have to give y'all a heads-up the next time I visit my mom in Sonoma County...
Eli | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:55 am | #
Do it. I'll suck your cock to the scrote.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:56 am | #
NO FLIRTING.
Thers, Mighty | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:55 am | #
You are WAY too late.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:56 am | #
I might have to give y'all a heads-up the next time I visit my mom in Sonoma County...
Eli
No "might" about it.
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:57 am | #
Do it. I'll suck your cock to the scrote.
Let this be a lesson to you all about how you can be polite but yet avoid the evil that is FLIRTING.
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 1:57 am | #
Your own mind?
Phila
Thanks, Phila. I forget I have a right to it, sometimes...
Sarah Deere |
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06.18.06 - 1:57 am | #
He was a fucking Beatle, for christs
sake.
steve simels | 06.18.06 - 1:55 am | #
I've got nothing against the Beatles. I like 'em fine. But jeez...is it truly a moral obligation to like them or their music?
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:58 am | #
Do it. I'll suck your cock to the scrote.
Phila
Hey! I'm over here!!!
flory |
06.18.06 - 1:58 am | #
But he was the *nice* one!
And he had the face of a mischievous angel.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 1:58 am | #
But since that time, I've met people who really related to them strongly...passionately, even. Missed out, I guess...but they just never did a thing for me.
Phila
Whelp, I had two older sisters who completely embraced the mid-70s disco thing (I know all those songs by heart, unfortunately) along with the Carpenters, Helen Reddy, America and other crap (to me) like that... so I turned to stuff like Styx, AC/DC, Queen and whatnot (I still know all those songs, too) and then I heard the Ramones... stripped-down and distilled bubblegum pop with a fast three-chord backbone, no lasers, no fog machines, no spandex unitards cut to the bellybutton - just four guys that played fast and hard rock-n-roll without studio engineering... and it was an epiphany... anybody could do this shit, maybe even ME. That had great appeal to this guy, then and there in time.
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
Phila...wait...you're drunk and shirtless....hmmmm.....Dang!!! Why can't I magically take about 30 yrs off my real age??????
Sarah Deere |
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06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
Hey! I'm over here!!!
flory | 06.18.06 - 1:58 am | #
OK. I'll suck your...uh...
Hell, whatever you got, I'll suck it.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
But, wtf do I know.
Quite a bit.There's an old story about George patiently teaching guitar chords to Lennon.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
Zappa- "We're only in it for the Money" was the exclamation point to the Beatles' concept.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
But jeez...is it truly a moral obligation to like them or their music?
Of course, you bastard. You absolute motherfucker. You will be killed otherwise. BE AFRAID.
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
But jeez...is it truly a moral obligation to like them or their music?
I'd have to say yes. Yes it is.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:00 am | #
Do it. I'll suck your cock to the scrote.
Who could pass up an offer like that?
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 2:00 am | #
Phila...wait...you're drunk and shirtless....hmmmm.....Dang!!! Why can't I magically take about 30 yrs off my real age??????
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
No need! I love you just the way you are (as the smarmy, coked-out, no-talent douchebag Billy Joel once sang).
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:00 am | #
Of course, you bastard. You absolute motherfucker. You will be killed otherwise. BE AFRAID.
Thers, Mighty
steve, I just did NOT like him. It's one of those things. I think he's not above
thievery. I think he's not a decent person. Call it what you like. I'm not a John
worshiper, either. Liked George. Ringo's probably the most honest.
But, wtf do I know.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 1:53 am | #
That's cool.
I think you're wrong, but wtf do
I know.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 2:01 am | #
I'd have to say yes. Yes it is.
JeffCO | 06.18.06 - 2:00 am | #
OK. Then I fucking hate every note they ever played, as of this moment.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:02 am | #
But jeez...is it truly a moral obligation to like them or their music?
Art Bell is my hero. You totally don't get it about him.
Ô¿Ô
We used to have our own home-grown local dude on the radio until the mid-'80s on a show called ET MONITOR... great fun!
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 2:02 am | #
I love you just the way you are
I really didn't need that earworm.
flory |
06.18.06 - 2:02 am | #
I love you just the way you are (as the smarmy, coked-out, no-talent douchebag Billy Joel once sang).
Phila |
dear, believe me, it would be so much better for both of us if I could shed 30 yrs
Trust me on this.
Sarah Deere |
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06.18.06 - 2:03 am | #
He was a fucking Beatle, for christs
sake.
steve simels
I'm so cynical these days of today's pop glory and overnite sensations to the point of puking.
But I kneel at the Beatle altar. Their shit is ground into my brainstem. Maybe I'm too old.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 2:03 am | #
And vocal versatility -- he could sing as sweet as a chorister at Christmas, or scream and growl and carry on -- compare "Til there was you" and "Kansas City," two early covers.
I've been listening to "Meet the Beatles" on my iPod lately. We forget how absolutely *fresh* and different and new they sounded when we first heard them. That sure was a lot of fun, and a long time ago.
strawhat |
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06.18.06 - 2:04 am | #
OK. Then I fucking hate every note they ever played, as of this moment. -Phila
You see it all around you - good Phila gone bad.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:04 am | #
Their shit is ground into my brainstem. Maybe I'm too old.
Max Planck
I think if you were a certain age cohort in the 60's you have no choice but to feel that way about the Beatles. They changed the fucking culture of music.
flory |
06.18.06 - 2:05 am | #
I turned to stuff like Styx, AC/DC, Queen and whatnot (I still know all those songs, too) and then I heard the Ramones... stripped-down and distilled bubblegum pop with a fast three-chord backbone, no lasers, no fog machines, no spandex unitards cut to the bellybutton - just four guys that played fast and hard rock-n-roll without studio engineering... and it was an epiphany... anybody could do this shit, maybe even ME. That had great appeal to this guy, then and there in time.
I loved AC/DC myself when I was 12 -13, and I can relate to what you're saying...but it was the bubblegum side of the Ramones that alienated me. Not my cup of tea at all. When I got into punk, I liked the more sloppy, kinda deconstructionist approach of bands like Flipper or Chrome. Or even Throbbing Gristle, for that matter.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:05 am | #
Zappa- "We're only in it for the Money" was the exclamation point to the
Beatles' concept.
Mr.Murder | 06.18.06 - 1:59 am | #
Zappa, as brilliant as he was -- and
on the side of the angels -- was
a hugely full of shit, sanctimonious,
piece of jealous prick who only wished
he was as talented as the people he
satirized.
As symbolized by his snarky version of
"Stairway to Heaven," a song he
only wished he had written.
Fuck the snide bastard.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 2:06 am | #
The first 8-track I ever owned was a two-pack called "Beatles '61 - '65" or something... I played the shit out of those...
(The second 8-track I ever owned was NAZERETH's HAIR OF THE DOG that some dude threw out of his Camaro at me while I was riding my bike... the tape was broken, so I took the 8-track apart and SCOTCH-TAPED it together and played the shit out of it...)
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 2:06 am | #
Simels, you're just jealous of Zappa because he co-opted Ringo.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 2:07 am | #
The first 8-track I ever owned was a two-pack called "Beatles '61 - '65" or something... I played the shit out of those...
The only 8 track I remember owning was Allman Brothers Eat a Peach.
flory |
06.18.06 - 2:08 am | #
When I got into punk, I liked the more sloppy, kinda deconstructionist approach of bands like Flipper or Chrome. Or even Throbbing Gristle, for that matter.
See, I found the bubblegum more appealing, as more dangerous, somehow.
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 2:08 am | #
See, I found the bubblegum more appealing, as more dangerous, somehow.
It might get into your hair, f'rinstance.
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 2:10 am | #
My older brother recorded a bunch of early Beatles onto an 8-track that I played for years from as early as I can remember. Some songs I still can't hear without expecting them to fade out *click* and in again.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:10 am | #
I think if you were a certain age cohort in the 60's you have no choice but to feel that way about the Beatles. They changed the fucking culture of music.
flory | 06.18.06 - 2:05 am | #
Oh, I was raised on them. In fact, they were pretty much the only rock music we had in the house, 'cause my parents were /jazz/classical/folk snobs. I don't even own any of their records, 'cause I feel like I know 'em backwards and forwards.
Actually, though, I heard some demo stuff a while back, and it was pretty fascinating. That stuff is so monolithic and irreducible...very interesting to hear it actually being constructed.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:10 am | #
Zappa- "We're only in it for the Money" was the exclamation point to the
Beatles' concept.
Mr.Murder
The Mothers actually had a fight over that album. The suits forced them to put their Sgt. Pepper send up photo on the inside sleeve.
I appreciate Zappa, and I wish he was around now, but his laffy album wouldn't have meant shit without the Beatles
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 2:10 am | #
The first 8-track I ever owned was a two-pack called "Beatles '61 - '65" or something... I played the shit out of those...
Beatles 65. First track, "I Feel Fine"
Jeebus, I'm fucking old.
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 2:11 am | #
The vigorous circular motion was every Jimmy Page solo rolled into one...
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 2:11 am | #
Jeez, all you have to say is the title: "I Feel Fine" and I hear that chord.
strawhat |
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06.18.06 - 2:12 am | #
I think if you were a certain age cohort in the 60's you have no choice but to feel that way about the Beatles. They changed the fucking culture of music.
flory
you are 100% right about that. It was a cultural earthquake. Nothing was the same afterwards. Everything was brand spanking new. My criticisms of Sir Paul are more personal than anything else - and, honestly, I liked his music til he want out of his own, married Linda, let her sing with him etc etc etc. His music (IMHO) became increasingly commercial and BORING, and he just seemed to be more and more inlove w/himself.
But what he and the rest of the Fab Four accomplished, historically, was phenomenal. No one can take that wway from them, period. Abd I most certainly would not even try, or think to. They deserve all those accolades, and more.
Sarah Deere |
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06.18.06 - 2:12 am | #
See, I found the bubblegum more appealing, as more dangerous, somehow.
Thers, Mighty | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 2:08 am | #
It wasn't danger that appealed to me...it was...
I don't know, but it wasn't that. It was some kind of liberation, I suppose. The idea of chaos was very appealing to me back then, but in a generally positive, euphoric sort of way.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:13 am | #
But I kneel at the Beatle altar. Their shit is ground into my brainstem. Maybe I'm too old.
I've bought a 100 CD changer six years ago. The first 25 discs I put in are Beatles CDs. I've never taken them out. I almost certainly listen to them more than the rest of my CD collection combined, which is of the order of about 400 albums.
I've listened to their albums hundreds of times, and they never get old. Indeed, even now I still find new things to latch onto, a guitar solo here, a background riff there. It's a constant case of discovery and rediscovery.
Richard |
06.18.06 - 2:13 am | #
Okay, favorite Beatles song.
"Here Comes the Sun."
strawhat |
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06.18.06 - 2:13 am | #
Oh, I was raised on them. In fact, they were pretty much the only rock music we had in the house, 'cause my parents were /jazz/classical/folk snobs
Phila:
Dunno how old you are, but being raised with the music and being raised while the music was being made are two different things, I think. Their impact was more than musical, it was cultural.
flory |
06.18.06 - 2:14 am | #
a hugely full of shit, sanctimonious,
piece of jealous prick who only wished
he was as talented as the people he
satirized.
Steve, you are eternally A-OK in my book.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:15 am | #
I loved AC/DC myself when I was 12 -13, and I can relate to what you're saying...but it was the bubblegum side of the Ramones that alienated me. Not my cup of tea at all. When I got into punk, I liked the more sloppy, kinda deconstructionist approach of bands like Flipper or Chrome. Or even Throbbing Gristle, for that matter.
Phila
For a long time I didn't like the California Punk scene stuff, even though I was an avid skateboarder... until I heard Rodney on the ROCQ stuff... Agent Orange, JFA, and the Dead Kennedys, etc., etc....
I'm leaving out a lot of "New Wave"-type stuff like Wall of Voodoo, DEVO, Echo and the Bunnymen, the Cars, and oh jeeze, a bunch of other stuff. But I really liked the Ramones and then the Clash. I miss them both a lot. Oooh and Television, and and and and...
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06.18.06 - 2:15 am | #
Actually, though, I heard some demo stuff a while back, and it was pretty fascinating. That stuff is so monolithic and irreducible...very interesting to hear it actually being constructed.
You ever listen to Guided By Voices's record Alien Lanes? Pollard says he wanted to make a record that sounded like a fake compilation of third-generation Beatles studio bootlegs...
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06.18.06 - 2:15 am | #
Jeez, all you have to say is the title: "I Feel Fine" and I hear that chord. -strawhat
The opening chord of A Hard Day's Night can also evoke an entire era.
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06.18.06 - 2:15 am | #
Okay, favorite Beatles song.
"Here Comes the Sun."
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps".
Eli |
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06.18.06 - 2:16 am | #
"Here Comes the Sun."
strawhat
Couldn't pick a favorite to save my life.
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06.18.06 - 2:17 am | #
Phila:
Dunno how old you are, but being raised with the music and being raised while the music was being made are two different things, I think. Their impact was more than musical, it was cultural.
flory | 06.18.06 - 2:14 am | #
Well, I remember the later LPs being released, and I grew up very much in the hippie subculture. But yeah, you're quite right that it's very different from being, say, a teenager when those LPs were coming out.
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06.18.06 - 2:17 am | #
The other day I was puttering around in the garden, iPod in my ear, and "An Octopus' Garden" came up. Well, I hadn't heard that in God knows how long. Just how stoned *were* they when they wrote & recorded that? And how much fun were they having?
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06.18.06 - 2:17 am | #
Simels, what of the notion that the Beatles were essentially the pop predecessor of the Beach Boys?
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06.18.06 - 2:18 am | #
But what he and the rest of the Fab Four accomplished, historically, was
phenomenal. No one can take that wway from them, period. Abd I most certainly
would not even try, or think to. They deserve all those accolades, and more.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 2:12 am | #
Word, kiddo.
I think we can agree on that.
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06.18.06 - 2:18 am | #
I don't know, but it wasn't that. It was some kind of liberation, I suppose. The idea of chaos was very appealing to me back then, but in a generally positive, euphoric sort of way.
Sure. I remember the moment I realized that poems don't really need to start with capital letters...
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 2:18 am | #
The mind is the most powerful force in the universe.
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06.18.06 - 2:19 am | #
Just how stoned *were* they when they wrote & recorded that? And how much fun were they having?
strawhat
Hee. I listened to that the very first time I ever got stoned!!!
flory |
06.18.06 - 2:19 am | #
Okay, favorite Beatles song.
For me, somedays it's "I'm a Loser", and on others it's "Dear Prudence".
Richard |
06.18.06 - 2:19 am | #
Couldn't pick a favorite to save my life.
flory
In MY Life is a treasure.
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06.18.06 - 2:20 am | #
Well, it appears the online sex is over with, so I guess I'll go to bed.
But I really liked the Ramones and then the Clash. I miss them both a lot. Oooh and Television, and and and and...
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MisterX | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 2:15 am | #
I liked the Clash and Television for a while, but it didn't stick with me over the years. Actually, a lot of the stuff I listened to back then doesn't sound so good to me now...I couldn't get through a Joy Division LP to save my life. I still listen to the Fall pretty often, and the second and third X albums. And a couple other things.
Agent Orange...jeez, I used to have some record by them. The one with "Everything Turns Grey" on it...
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:21 am | #
poems don't really need to start with capital letters...
Nor necessarily contain the phrase brute froth holes, but try telling that to some people.
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06.18.06 - 2:21 am | #
My older brother recorded a bunch of early Beatles onto an 8-track that I played for years from as early as I can remember. Some songs I still can't hear without expecting them to fade out *click* and in again.
JeffCO
HA! Yeah that's something that's lost. I remember that I had someBowie 8-track that played the songs in "album order", without breaks in the middle of songs, so instead there was this like 3 minute gap where we just listened to the hisssss until it went to the next track...
Remember carefully shoving a matchpack under an 8-track in your car stereo so that it played better? That's a lost skill, like chipping flint arrowheads...
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 2:21 am | #
Simels, what of the notion that the Beatles were essentially the pop predecessor
of the Beach Boys?
Mr.Murder | 06.18.06 - 2:18 am | #
Wow...interesting concept, and I
have no idea what my answer would
be.
I adore the Beach Boys, of course.
Let me think about it for a tad.
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 2:22 am | #
Zappa could have been an orchestra chair if need be.
The Beatles door was opened for them by American blues artists.
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06.18.06 - 2:22 am | #
Mr.Murder -- can I pipe up? Other way around. The Beach Boys had already been big for some time in the US when the Beatles were just starting to break out. (I know, my sisters had BB albums before Beatles albums.) As for the musicological part of it -- I bow to the experts. I've heard that Rubber Soul was responsive to Pet Sounds (or was that the other way around?).
strawhat |
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06.18.06 - 2:23 am | #
Okay, favorite Beatles song.
Probably something from "Rubber Soul." Reminds me of being a little kid.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:23 am | #
Okay, favorite Beatles song.
"Here Comes the Sun."
A Harrison tune. Sinatra once said the greatest love song ever written was "Something", another Harrison tune. For what it's worth, I guess.
No, not Buffalo Springfield...
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 2:23 am | #
Simels, what of the notion that the Beatles were essentially the pop predecessor
of the Beach Boys?
Mr.Murder
Mr. Murder, I think you got yer time machine bollocks up.
Though Back In The USSR is a wonderful homage to the Boys.
Max Planck |
06.18.06 - 2:23 am | #
Remember carefully shoving a matchpack under an 8-track in your car stereo so that it played better? That's a lost skill, like chipping flint arrowheads...
Folding a an envelope or cardboard, a different trick for a different 8 track...
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 2:24 am | #
Simels, what of the notion that the Beatles were essentially the pop predecessor of the Beach Boys?
The Beatles were a predecessor? The Beach Boys first album came out in 1962, around the same time as "Love Me Do". The Beatles first album didn't come out until 1963.
Richard |
06.18.06 - 2:24 am | #
I still listen to Adrenalin OD's Humungusfungusamongus a lot... because it shreds.
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 2:25 am | #
Favorite isn't really even relevant with them - depends on the mood and lots of other stuff. If I hear Things We Said Today I instantly recall singing it to my girlfriend on a date over 25 years ago. Lots of those kind of emotional memories with the Beatles.
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06.18.06 - 2:25 am | #
HA! Yeah that's something that's lost. I remember that I had someBowie 8-track that played the songs in "album order", without breaks in the middle of songs, so instead there was this like 3 minute gap where we just listened to the hisssss until it went to the next track...
There's a Tom Petty CD where he sheepishly pops in to announce that this would normally be the spot where you would turn it over if it were a tape. Some kind of strange egalitarian impulse, IIRC...
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06.18.06 - 2:26 am | #
I still listen to Adrenalin OD's Humungusfungusamongus a lot... because it shreds.
Thers, Mighty | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 2:25 am | #
And plus, you've gotta take a break from SOD once in a while...
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:26 am | #
I've heard that Rubber Soul was responsive to Pet Sounds (or was that the other way around?).
Rubber Soul (1965) inspired Pet Sounds (1966), which in turn inspired Sgt. Pepper (1967).
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06.18.06 - 2:27 am | #
Seems like the bands were meshed... each different sides of the same coin to me.
Household was raised in CA during the surf heydays so I heard the beach Boys a lot, and the generation before was Elvis.
Most of my friends fromt he era were big on the Beatles but moved on and are big time Crimson fans.
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06.18.06 - 2:27 am | #
Thers, I was re-reading part of "Pascalian Meditations" this afternoon. That's some very high-quality low-key invective, there.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:28 am | #
There's a Tom Petty CD where he sheepishly pops in to announce that this would normally be the spot where you would turn it over if it were a tape.
"Wildflowers". Great album.
Richard |
06.18.06 - 2:29 am | #
Thinking of how many musicians have been influenced by them is not even funny. I currently love stuff like Belle & Sebastian and Badly Drawn Boy but can't imagine they'd be what they are without the Beatles.
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06.18.06 - 2:30 am | #
Agent Orange...jeez, I used to have some record by them. The one with "Everything Turns Grey" on it...
Phila
Heh. "When You Least Expect It... Agent Orange"...
Now I listen to stuff like Robocop Krause, Franz Ferdinand, etc., etc...
Best Beatles song?
For the Benefit of Mr. Kite - calliope!!! in a rock song!!!
Come Together
Hard Day's Night
Eight Days a Week
But probably the best and one I can still listen to over and over:
I currently love stuff like Belle & Sebastian and Badly Drawn Boy but can't imagine they'd be what they are without the Beatles.
JeffCO | 06.18.06 - 2:30 am | #
I don't get B & S at all. Don't know BDB.
Speaking of modern pop stuff, I like this German gal named Barbara Morgenstern a fair amount, and I'm irritated to learn that she just played here like three days ago...I'm a dope for not noticing....
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06.18.06 - 2:34 am | #
Was just before my time, so I'm not certain of who started first but it seemed like the entire studio war exchange was such an item. Each band basically playing off the other's influence.
The lyrics are as much fun as anything in the music for the Beatles. That is the hook to me.
Beach Boys were just super fuzzy tuned up superengineered.
Both had studio wonk phases and always possessed their own brand of vocals.
Hendrix had both of them beat to me. The Experience had more production value in them. Axis was like a musical apex.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 2:35 am | #
Was just before my time, so I'm not certain of who started first but it seemed like the entire studio war exchange was such an item. Each band basically playing off the other's influence.
The lyrics are as much fun as anything in the music for the Beatles. That is the hook to me.
Beach Boys were just super fuzzy tuned up superengineered.
Both had studio wonk phases and always possessed their own brand of vocals.
Hendrix had both of them beat to me. The Experience had more production value in them. Axis was like a musical apex.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 2:35 am | #
Speaking of modern pop stuff, I like this German gal named Barbara Morgenstern a fair amount
Hendrix had both of them beat to me. The Experience had more production value in them. Axis was like a musical apex.
Mr.Murder
Ooooh, great stuff!
Just
ask
the axis.
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 2:36 am | #
Now I listen to stuff like Robocop Krause, Franz Ferdinand, etc., etc...
Modern stuff...let's see, I like Dengue Fever, the new Neko Case thing, the aforementioned Ms. Morgenstern...Lali Puna are pretty good, too.
I wish I could find more new stuff to listen to, 'cause my iPod has a heavy, heavy bias towards 1927 and that stuff isn't really the best driving music...
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:36 am | #
And on that note, I'm off to the
arms of ....whoever.
See you in the AM...
steve simels |
06.18.06 - 2:38 am | #
Leonard Bernstein (composer / conductor): "Three bars of "A Day In The Life" still sustain me, rejuvinate me, inflame my senses and sensibilities"
(from Geoffrey Stokes' book The Beatles, published '79)
Richard |
06.18.06 - 2:38 am | #
So I should wax enthusiastic again about seeing Ms. Case up close and personal last night? Damn she has a voice on her. Sometimes artists have trouble here because of the altitude, but she never missed a note.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:38 am | #
Modern stuff...let's see, I like Dengue Fever, the new Neko Case thing, the aforementioned Ms. Morgenstern...Lali Puna are pretty good, too.
I wish I could find more new stuff to listen to, 'cause my iPod has a heavy, heavy bias towards 1927 and that stuff isn't really the best driving music...
Phila
Yeah, you recommended Dengue Fever and Lali Puna before to me... and I absorbed that into my personal playlist... have you ever listened to Supercar? Really cool stuff with incredible videos - sadly they've split up recently...
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 2:39 am | #
So I should wax enthusiastic again about seeing Ms. Case up close and personal last night? Damn she has a voice on her. Sometimes artists have trouble here because of the altitude, but she never missed a note.
JeffCO
That was the coolest story I've heard in a long time... great memory for you!
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 2:40 am | #
I wish I could find more new stuff to listen to
There are buttloads of decent student stations all over the country streaming new stuff, though they're not always great about back-announcing.
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06.18.06 - 2:40 am | #
So I should wax enthusiastic again about seeing Ms. Case up close and personal last night? Damn she has a voice on her.
She's a good lyricist, too, IMO.
I've never heard her first LP...didn't much like "Furnace Room Lullaby," and I figured it'd have a similar sound. Is it any good, in your opinion? I like the other two just fine.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:41 am | #
There are buttloads of decent student stations all over the country streaming new stuff, though they're not always great about back-announcing.
JeffCO | 06.18.06 - 2:40 am | #
No, I know how to find new stuff, no problem. I just mean I wish I liked more of it.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:42 am | #
I was re-reading part of "Pascalian Meditations" this afternoon. That's some very high-quality low-key invective, there.
It's all very funny. Also, there is a lot of infighting -- one of the things that PB did that apparently pissed people off royally was to actually try to study French Academia... Homo Academicus is one of my favorite books ever, but it just drips acid.
Anyway, PB was also a provincial: a very smart countryman. He always emphasized his Bernaise background and that wasn't exactly Parisienne...
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 2:43 am | #
have you ever listened to Supercar? Really cool stuff with incredible videos - sadly they've split up recently...
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MisterX | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 2:39 am | #
Nope...I'll check into it.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:43 am | #
That was the coolest story I've heard in a long time... great memory for you!
First time I saw Beth Orton at a tiny club in Denver I told her that she looked a lot like my HS girlfriend and I'd had a crush on her since seeing her first video. She punched me in the arm and said "Awww, shit happens."
I am a total sucker for a woman with a voice.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:43 am | #
Night, bats, and I know I'll be adding to my iPod tomorrow.
strawhat |
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06.18.06 - 2:44 am | #
Hi, I'm a World Cup referee and I suck dog dicks
Jorge Lorrionde |
06.18.06 - 2:44 am | #
I wish I could find more new stuff to listen to, 'cause my iPod has a heavy, heavy bias towards 1927 and that stuff isn't really the best driving music...
Try the Old 97's. Fun, light stuff - good for driving. Mr. Geo downloaded "the new kid" for free.
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 2:45 am | #
I just mean I wish I liked more of it. -Phila
Ahh, of course. Have you considered pondering whether you're turning into your parents? That usually pushes people a bit.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:45 am | #
Anyway, PB was also a provincial: a very smart countryman. He always emphasized his Bernaise background and that wasn't exactly Parisienne...
Thers, Mighty | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 2:43 am | #
That definitely comes through. His dismissal of UC-Santa Cruz is very funny, and horribly accurate.
And again, it reminded me how comical it was that Goldstein and his flying monkeys were calling you "postmodern" for critiquing him via Bourdieu. Poor fuckin' saps.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:45 am | #
Lookalikes- Majikthise and Cowboy Junkies'lead singer...
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 2:46 am | #
Also - the Klezmer All Stars are fun.
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 2:46 am | #
I've never heard her first LP...
Me neither- mostly I've been listening to Blacklisted and Fox Confessor (which I really really like).
Have you heard Patricia Barber?
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:48 am | #
HERE's Supercar's "Be"... very disturbing video on crappy crappy YouTube...
And HERE's Supercar's "White Surf Style Five" video on crappy YouTube... very enjoyable... you really have to watch this one...
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 2:48 am | #
Ahh, of course. Have you considered pondering whether you're turning into your parents? That usually pushes people a bit.
JeffCO | 06.18.06 - 2:45 am | #
Nah. My father listens mostly to the jazz he listened to in his youth, but I've never been that way. I hear a good deal of what comes out, and I always find a few things I like. I'm just horribly fincky about voices, lyrics, etc.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:49 am | #
one of the things that PB did that apparently pissed people off royally was to actually try to study French Academia... Homo Academicus is one of my favorite books ever, but it just drips acid.
I'm glad you re-introduced him to me.
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 2:50 am | #
Hee hee. In Homo Academicus he calls academic peer reviews something like "evidence of a consipracy wherein everybody conspires to conceal from everyone truths known to all."
My balls are the most powerful force in the universe.
jack |
06.18.06 - 2:52 am | #
Supergrass are OK, I guess. And there was a Broadcast LP I kinda liked.
I dunno...there's a lot of stuff I think is good in kind of an abstract sense, but I'm not actually driven to listen to it.
Fox Confessor (which I really really like).
The last song's kind of a dud, but the rest of it's pretty solid, IMO. If the whole thing were as good as the first three songs it'd be terrifyingly good.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 2:52 am | #
The last song's kind of a dud, but the rest of it's pretty solid, IMO
I like it fine - reminds me of a slightly peppier Cowboy Junkies - but I think That Teenage Feeling is my favorite.
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 2:54 am | #
read at least the first few chapters of Homo Academicus.
One of the things he says is that academia is really the last surviving medieval economic institution (you even see this in the silly graduation outfits)...
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 2:56 am | #
Taylor Hicks is the hottest thing going right now
jack |
06.18.06 - 2:57 am | #
Hee hee. In Homo Academicus he calls academic peer reviews something like "evidence of a consipracy wherein everybody conspires to conceal from everyone truths known to all."
Pretty bracing stuff.
Thers, Mighty |
He must watch a lot of network news.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 2:57 am | #
Is is his argument in the book On Television...
Thers, Mighty |
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06.18.06 - 2:59 am | #
One of the things he says is that academia is really the last surviving medieval economic institution (you even see this in the silly graduation outfits)...
Well, the only reason I'm doing this is for the puffy wizzard hat.
I'll have to get Homo Academicus from the library - it sounds like a kick.
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 2:59 am | #
(I'm kinda noncommital about it, personally. But I do like a few of their songs.)
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:01 am | #
Thers,
do you know of any authors or books that ntodd might like reading? I want to send him something fun.
I think he said somewhere that he likes sci fi?
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 3:02 am | #
I fucked all the chicks in Sleater-Kinney. I converted them.
jack |
06.18.06 - 3:02 am | #
Bobo's World, Georgia Edition:
DECATUR - Four law enforcement officers have been indicted on a variety of charges including smuggling drugs into the county jail and lying on a police report. All four are charged with felonies.
Zachary Kronenberger, a four-year officer with the DeKalb County Police Department, is accused of violating his oath by trying to bribe another officer to fix a traffic ticket.
DeKalb County Officer Mark Maphet was charged with drunken driving and criminal damage to property stemming from an off-duty dispute over a parking spot last December, police said.
DeKalb County sheriff's Deputy Jimmy Lee Butler Jr., who was fired in November 2005, is accused of bringing drugs, tobacco and other banned items to the county jail.
Doraville police officer Bill E. Carty is accused of filing a false report.
Chris Tucker |
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06.18.06 - 3:02 am | #
Goodness, some little boy is lonesome tonight. Anyway, I'm out - thanks for another lovely evening!
JeffCO |
06.18.06 - 3:03 am | #
Geoduck, how can I get this CD of mid-1920s blues stuff to you? If you're one of these "no address" folks (like me), I can e-mail you MP3s. You could even set up an account just for that purpose...
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:03 am | #
Hello, jack.
It's your worst nightmare.
Someone who can find you.
jack is the first.
The list is long!
Chris Tucker |
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06.18.06 - 3:04 am | #
Phila,
I'll e-mail you right now. I keep on forgetting to do that.
That would be great - thanks so much!
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 3:05 am | #
I've a ton of Gmail invites, if anyone needs one for file transfer purposes. 2 gigabytes of storage. JUST the thing for a CD of MP3s.
tuckerch@gmail.com
Just ask.
Chris Tucker |
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06.18.06 - 3:07 am | #
the most unexpected song I ever heard at a funeral was the Beatles' Revolution #9. (not really a song, per se) Very surreal.
biscuit |
06.18.06 - 3:07 am | #
Phila,
ok - I'm techno- illiterate. How do I e-mail you?
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 3:08 am | #
Phila, geoduck2, email me at tuckerch@gmail.com and I'll hook you up with Gmail accounts.
Chris Tucker |
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06.18.06 - 3:09 am | #
(I'm kinda noncommital about it, personally. But I do like a few of their songs.)
Phila
Wow! Great vocals! I'll have to check them out...
Check THIS out... I can't decide if I like this or not...
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 3:10 am | #
I'll e-mail you right now. I keep on forgetting to do that.
That would be great - thanks so much!
geoduck2 | 06.18.06 - 3:05 am | #
Click the link at the bottom of my homepage.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:10 am | #
Wow! Great vocals! I'll have to check them out...
The poor thing is tone-deaf, live. But such is life.
"Tender Buttons" has a four or five good songs on it, IIRC.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:12 am | #
G'night, dears. Sleep tight. Dream well and sweetly. Awake refreshed and ready to take on whatever needs to be dealt with. May you love, smile, laugh, feel.
Thanks for letting me be among you for yet another day.
SD
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06.18.06 - 3:12 am | #
Phila, geoduck2, email me at tuckerch@gmail.com and I'll hook you up with Gmail accounts.
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 3:09 am | #
So you think the paranoia some folks have about gmail is unjustified, I guess? Good to know.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:13 am | #
Check THIS out... I can't decide if I like this or not...
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MisterX | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 3:10 am | #
Couldn't get it to load.
Jeez, I didn't know Touch and Go was still around...
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:14 am | #
and I'll hook you up with Gmail accounts.
Thanks - I just couldn't find the e-mail link on Phila's home page. I finally figured it out! (i think.)
Jack,
I can't help but wonder about the lyrics Corin would write about trolls on liberal blogs.
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 3:17 am | #
Goodnight, Sarah
Toadstool |
06.18.06 - 3:17 am | #
I'm gonna go back to the soul-annihilating drudgery of drinking rum cocktails, eating absinthe-infused chocolates, and doing crossword puzzles.
But I do want to give a plug for the American Experience documentary on Coney Island circa 1906, which is finally on DVD and even more heart-stoppingly beautiful than I remembered.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:18 am | #
Jeez, I didn't know Touch and Go was still around...
Phila
It's Coco Rosie's "Noah's Ark" (I think) and it takes a while to load...
Earworm or cool? I just don't know...
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MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 3:18 am | #
"So you think the paranoia some folks have about gmail is unjustified, I guess? Good to know."
Universal paranoia about ANY email provider is justified today, and should be enough to tell you how to use email, as an unsecured channel.
Like telephone you assume anyone could be listening to it. It does not mean you don't use it, but be aware what and what should not be said there.
Doug, |
06.18.06 - 3:19 am | #
G'night, folks. Pleasant dreams.
Phila |
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06.18.06 - 3:22 am | #
phila,
I'm going to try to send it again.
geoduck2 |
06.18.06 - 3:26 am | #
G'night, all...
And thanks, Phila, I appreciate the music recommendations. I really liked "Where Do You Want To Go?" and sent it to a bunch of folks last month or whatever...
MisterX |
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06.18.06 - 3:29 am | #
If I were to use Gmail for anything of a sensitive nature, I'd just attach a PGP file. But then, that's just me.
Look, the Feds can already monitor your email with the coerced cooperation of your ISP. That's more worrisome than some bot at Google scanning your bitstream for keywords that might lead to you getting an ad or two on your inbox screen.
Someone sends someone else a password protected ZIP file via Gmail, well, it's one among millions every day. And if that ZIP file contains a PGP encrypted file, well, hard cheese for the Google bots and the NSA/FBI.
Gmail is certainly good enough for a CD of music or a video file.
The way I see it is that every byte I send/receive can and is monitored. 99.99% of those bytes, I don't care about. The rest pass through PGP first.
Get your FREE personal encryption software today. Tomorrow may be too late.
Chris Tucker |
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06.18.06 - 4:02 am | #
If you could photoshop Chimpy's face on this image I believe we may get an idea of how he looked in his protective gear.
Holden Caulfield
No pic, but I'll have to defer to WT in any case, I've got to do some law talkin' guy stuff.
Attaturk |
Goat story bush should be photoshopped between the sick face flak jacket photo op flying to Baghdad. To show calm and Leadership!
Mr.Murder |
06.18.06 - 9:00 pm | #
Happy July 4th to all of you. I just made a flash game where uncle Sam is seen throwing knives at Joe Lieberman called Back Stabbing Lieberman. Check it out at my site here: http://zenwire.com/flashmedia-li...a-
lieberman.php. There are also other games there: bush rampage, bush-rice-terror, bush shootout, dancing bush and Blair and other political games as well. Feel free to comment for I plan to make more.
Anyways, back to the meaning of July 4th for my kids.
I was watching all the fireworks outside with my kids, and my 8 year old daughter asked me to explain what was Independence day all about. I gave her the story about colonial settlers under British rule and how we united with help to fight off the Brits and finally won our independence for the right to self rule. And when I told her that this is when our founding fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence, and she asked me what was that? I did not remember most of the words, but incredibly my wife did and we utter some of those magic words together. I told her that when I was a kid and read those words, I thought that they were the most beautifully written words I had ever read. And I told her that the meaning and values of that document was why I love America so much; this was the country that taught me what it meant to be equal and fair, good and just. But I also told her that half of it is no longer true, and my son, a typical Nintendo kid, interjected: “You mean, like Bush.” I did not even have to reply or convince him, somehow he already knew. In a way I should be glad that even my kids can see what is going on, but somehow I actually felt sad. Sad because they don’t know the full weight and tremendous implications of those words written so long ago. Sad because they don’t realize the power of words and the actions they can generate; and those specific words were so powerful that countless men have willingly died through the eons in their fleeting attempt to manifest and live out those words and its ideals. And sad because I grew up in a world full of idealistic ideas and enthusiasm, teaching us to not only help and improve ourselves, but all of humanity and mankind as well. Reaching the moon and back was just a small sampling of things to come. I am what I am is because of these words and it makes me sad to realize that my kids will not have these words and the absolute belief and trust in those very words (inscribed by our founding fathers) to guide and instill in them a sense of justice and equality. They know the world is not fair and they will never expect it to be fair. I have always hoped the world will be so, but I can no longer say this with a straight face to my kids that the world will be this way when they grow up or if it will ever even get any closer to those ideals; just like the moon is no longer feasible to travel to anymore, there is easy money to be made elsewhere subjugating the people of this planet.
More in then next post....
Zenseeker |
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07.05.06 - 12:51 pm | #
After reading the Declaration of Independence at this site: http://www.law.indiana.edu/
uslaw...eclaration.html, it struck me that I was wrong in telling my daughter that half of it was no longer true. I actually thought that most of it is no longer true. For brevity, skipping the preamble and just going through the grievances, I saw many justifiable grievances then that equally apply to now, the year 2006. Just read them for yourselves and see how many of them our government is guilty of or in the process of taking those very same rights away. I will mark the ones I feel they are guilty of.
Guilty: He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
Guilty: He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
Guilty: He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
Guilty: He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
Guilty: He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
Guilty: He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
Guilty: He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
Guilty: He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
Guilty: He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.
Guilty: He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
Guilty: He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
Guilty: For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
Guilty: For protecting them, by a m
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