HULK SMASHED

Yeah


Just you wait, Bush will be riding high at 35% come the midterm election.

/snark


Bounce, bounce, bounce those numbers. Sheesh! At below 40 does it really make a difference?


impeach


That's quite a pony collection on the Mia Culpa page...


Gravatar...only in the world of The Note could poll numbers in the high 30s be considered good news.

Esp. since that "bounce" falls right in the margin of error.


GravatarPonies rule.


GravatarTHAT IS COMPLETELY WHY THEY IMPORTED KOZUMI... graceland elvis barbecue=kkkarls big idea


GravatarI'm poniless.


GravatarIn a poll cited on MSNBC this morning, taken very recently, he slid down two points.


GravatarNovember can't come quickly enough.


GravatarThe Note, they will be first against the litter box when the revolution comes, correct? (stealing from EGN!)


GravatarDoes Holden capture the trolls and make them clean his stable?

He should.


Gravatarlawrence odonnell was very exasperated in his segment on franken's show a few days ago, explaining that the 'bounce' means nothing when margin of error is factored in -- if anything it's a 1 or 2 pt uptick. the point is how consistent the unpopularity is; and how big that 'very much disapprove' category is. he was pretty critical of the media's misreporting on this.


Gravatar"Just you wait, Bush will be riding high at 35% come the midterm election.

/snark
Buzz Bomb"

The sad thing about it is the media will spin it as if this a "GOOD" thing. Any other country would be planning an impeachment!


GravatarDesi, you're here! Is that photo of your stable of ponies or Holden's?


Gravatarrepost:
Sharpton is a flawed vessel. So am I. But he's witty and fast on his feet, and he was all that was offered
in opposition to the harridan, and met her well.


GravatarWe know who you are, "Atrios," and your feeble attempts to lower the president's poll ratings single handedly by citing the high thirties as not high enough. But everyone knows that it is not the poll ratings, but the inverse of the poll ratings that matter: just like all six of the major 2004 election day pollsters got the vote exactly backwards, you have intentionally reversed our great president's polls to try to trick us into disliking our own government. Everyone knows bush is well into the 70s in presidential opinion. Everyone will also soon know your identity as well.


GravatarIn a poll cited on MSNBC this morning, taken very recently, he slid down two points.
plantsman, lowercase


what goes up, must come down... spinning rooms for the drugged up Chimp... and security in Iraq is just peachy according to the incompetent Ms. Rice.


GravatarConsidering the hard campaign they have waged the last few weeks, including get a new spokesperson, if all the can do is get a few points within the margin of error, I would say they are fucked.


GravatarWe might as well throw in the towel.


GravatarMorning, Moonbats! What idiots have decided that Bush is now doing better?

BTW, have you seen the thousand hands of Buddha?


GravatarSharpton is a flawed vessel. So am I. But he's witty and fast on his feet

Al Sharpton? I remember during the last Democratic nomination debate he was in I kept thinking, he shouldn't be running he should be giving public speaking lessons to the others. He is a brilliant speaker who should be doing what he was so clearly born to do. Put 20% of his delivery into Al Gore and he wouldn't have had to worry about anything. Kerry, 30%.


GravatarWe might as well throw in the towel.
NTodd, Son of Gretchen | Homepage | 07.01.06 - 11:09 am | #


Thanks, Mean Joe!


Gravatarexplaining that the 'bounce' means nothing when margin of error is factored in -- if anything it's a 1 or 2 pt uptick.

The majority of folks have no concept of the meaning of the statistical term "margin of error" nor do they understand why that taking a random sample of a grand or so people is valid wrt predicting how the population thinks.

And the ones that may understand distort the hell out of the results in the manner described here.

Boots' goose is cooked. The only way the bastards can win now is cheat. And we hae to find a way to make sure that doesn't happen. Therein lies the rub.


GravatarIf not, you might want to.


GravatarSharpton is a flawed vessel. So am I. But he's witty and fast on his feet

he accepted money and advice from roger stone, one of the biggest gop slimeballs operating, during the 2004 campaign.

that's what is very depressing, when you are reduced to cheering on al sharpton, who is truly gifted in these types of mouth-offs, because the political discourse in this country has been so degraded by these outlets that value theatrics over content.


GravatarThe one thing every Secretary of State needs to be is a Sovietologist!


GravatarHas UNE been around?


Gravatarbecause the political discourse in this country has been so degraded by these outlets that value theatrics over content.
linda | 07.01.06 - 11:11 am | #


That implies that there was some Golden Age in America when content was valued over theatrics...

Not so sure that holds up.

(Meanwhile, my first published essay is being republished in an anthology of Culture Studies! Whee!)


GravatarAnybody see the Mad TV "My Slump" about Bush's numbers?

They subtituted My Slump for that Black Eye Pea's song about "lumps".


GravatarGood going, ror!!!


GravatarGood going, ror!!!


GravatarThanks, Blak! I was very pleased and surprised to hear the news myself. Out of the blue.


GravatarThe one thing every Secretary of State needs to be is a Sovietologist!
plantsman, lowercase


who doesn't speak russian.

i've always found that particular point just amazing; and yet all her fantasists in corporate media slobber over her 'expertise'


GravatarIf only the NYT would look down the street and remember where 9/11 happened, Bush's numbers would be higher. It really happened in New York City, you know.


GravatarWant a laugh? Drill down to the Time page. Directly under the headline

"In a new TIME survey, Americans say the President is performing poorly and that the country is increasingly on the wrong track"

is this link:

Joe Klein: Why Bush is Still Winning the War at Home--in which Joke Line marvels at Bush getting back his "full jaunty."

Methinks someone at TIME is having fun with Joke.


GravatarHecate - that is breathtaking! Thank you so much.


Gravatarrorschach,

very cool news!


GravatarWe might as well throw in the towel.
NTodd, Son of Gretchen
The old one I cleaned up after the dog with this morning? Sorry, it's already soaking.

About polling, from olvlzl's June 13th post:
But cable and other media use up an even more important, though unconsidered, type of public property. I propose that we consider the increasingly limited time the American Public has to inform itself to fulfill it's all important civic responsibilities a property of the public. Our time is a property even more important than the air waves and unlike that, they can't squeeze more time into what there is. An uninformed public can't govern itself. If it can't despots and pirates are only too happy to step into the breech. It really is a matter of life and death.

"News" companies should have a much stricter requirement to report real news and so serve the public good. Fairness has to be imposed on them because they will always serve their own interests otherwise. Cable's role in selling us the Iraq war by selling its audience lies is my first but far from last exhibit. A deceived public is a dangerous public and a public in danger.

They won't go back to just the facts unless they are forced to and the first thing we can do about that is to tell them what to do with their polls.


GravatarWe might as well throw in the towel.
NTodd


If by "towel" you mean "towel wrapped around a large rock or small inciendiary device," then yes.


Gravatar
(Meanwhile, my first published essay is being republished in an anthology of Culture Studies! Whee!)
rorschach


Ooh, can I touch you! That is so cool, ror. Congratulations!


GravatarThe Thousand Hands of Buddha was indeed, breathtaking.


Gravatarwho doesn't speak russian.

She doesn't know russian?!?


GravatarFairness to Bush is out of the question. Eschew mamby-pambyism.


GravatarHBK - UNE lurks a lot.


GravatarThe Thousand Hands of Buddha was indeed, breathtaking.
plantsman,


Could you believe that? That was one of the most beautiful things I've seen.


GravatarOoh, can I touch you! That is so cool, ror. Congratulations!
Tena | Homepage | 07.01.06 - 11:17 am | #


Oh, as if you need permission to touch me, Tena. C'mon now.


GravatarPer my note above concerning statistics, the troll says:

you have intentionally reversed our great president's polls to try to trick us into disliking our own government.

I rest my case.


GravatarBut there are no "icons of national significance" in NY and we must cut Homeland security funds there by 40%! Even Franz Ferdinand sings about the Statue of Liberty!


GravatarOh, as if you need permission to touch me, Tena. C'mon now.
rorschach


No flirting!


GravatarRor - just an expression, you sweet thing.




I'm really happy for you.


GravatarShe doesn't know russian?!?
geoduck


not nearly to the level of competency as implied by her press coverage. it's very basic level, if that. russian-speaking friends are the source of that opinion.


GravatarIn fairness Bush has edged up a bit in a few polls, but only in the world of The Note could poll numbers in the high 30s be considered good news.

So nearly 70 percent of Americans still think he's a fuck-up. So what?

Just because our government is of, for and by the people, it doesn't mean the preznit should be distracted by little technicalities like public opinion.


GravatarI rest my case.


It's parody. Read the link, it's quite funny.


GravatarThanks, Mean Joe!

[BELCH!]


GravatarNo flirting!
ql in ny


I hereby declare that flirting is open for business. It is the stuff of life!

I'm overruling Thers.


Gravatarplantsman

that's right up there with the wingnut at work telling me limpdick was set up.


GravatarAnyone care for some bran muffins made with Michigan blueberries and strawberries? Talk about being good for your constitution...


GravatarIf I set limpy up, it wouldn't be with vitamin V.


GravatarI'd love a muffin!


GravatarJoke Line



Paging Jack Meoff. Mr. Jack Meoff, please come to the customer service desk and meet your parties, Mr. Mike Hunt and Mr Joke Line.


GravatarRor - just an expression, you sweet thing.




I'm really happy for you.
Tena | Homepage | 07.01.06 - 11:20 am | #


Sigh.

So, no touching then?

Damn.

And that's not flirting, by the way, that's blatant propositioning.


GravatarOh, thanks Tena. Now if we could just convince Mr. QL to take a nap, I could flirt with impunity.


GravatarOh, thanks Tena. Now if we could just convince Mr. QL to take a nap, I could flirt with impunity.


GravatarVicki - I do I do!


Did I read the link correctly - Bush bounced back down in the poll, to 35% from 37%?


GravatarI hereby declare that flirting is open for business. It is the stuff of life!

Yea!!!! Finally, an ally in the battle against 'No Flirting', the deadly weapon of the Borg.


GravatarThe one thing every Secretary of State needs to be is a Sovietologist!
plantsman, lowercase

And play a mean Chopsticks


GravatarShe doesn't know russian?!?
geoduck

not nearly to the level of competency as implied by her press coverage. it's very basic level, if that. russian-speaking friends are the source of that opinion.


Her Russian's worse than mine at this point. I can still at least get drunk with them and find the subway. She can't even do that.


GravatarYes, he did. Bouncey, bouncey!


GravatarOh, thanks Tena. Now if we could just convince Mr. QL to take a nap, I could flirt with impunity.
ql in ny | Homepage | 07.01.06 - 11:23 am | #


Sexy! Who is this "impunity" person? Is s/he hot?


GravatarIt's parody. Read the link, it's quite funny.

Yes, quite funny indeed!


GravatarI hereby declare that flirting is open for business.

[Droopy Dawg] Yes, mistress... [/Droopy Dawg]


GravatarThe one thing every Secretary of State needs to be is a Sovietologist!

Yes, an expert of a country that doesn't even fucking exist anymore.


Gravatar Yes, he did. Bouncey, bouncey!

If I said you had a nice poll, would you hold it against me?


Gravatarfollowing the links to the Joke Line column he concludes with this:

"What can the Democrats do? They can play politics or be responsible. The political option is to embrace "cut and run"; call for an immediate withdrawal, as Kerry did; and hope the public is so sick of Bush and sick of the war that it will punish the g.o.p. in the fall. But embracing defeat is a risky political strategy, especially for a party not known for its warrior ethic. In fact, the responsible path is the Democrats' only politically plausible choice: they will have to give yet another new Iraqi government one last shot to succeed. This time, U.S. military sources say, the measure of success is simple: Operation Forward Together, the massive joint military effort launched last week to finally try to secure Baghdad, has to work. If Baghdad isn't stabilized, the war is lost. "I know it's the cliche of the war," an Army counterinsurgency specialist told me last week. "But we'll know in the next six months—and this time, it'll be the last next six months we get."

SIX MONTHS!!!


GravatarIf I said you had a nice poll, would you hold it against me?
NTodd, Son of Gretchen


No, I'd just vault with it.


Gravatar Yes, he did. Bouncey, bouncey!

If I said you had a nice poll, would you hold it against me?
NTodd, Son of Gretchen | Homepage | 07.01.06 - 11:26 am | #


Now that's the kind of entendre that requires some balls.


GravatarThe one thing every Secretary of State needs to be is a Sovietologist!
plantsman, lowercase

And play a mean Chopsticks
footloose


And ice skate - mustn't forget that. It's mandatory that our Secretary of State be able to execute a triple Lutz.


GravatarYes, an expert of a country that doesn't even fucking exist anymore.

Ah, but it lives on in our hearts.


GravatarYes, an expert of a country that doesn't even fucking exist anymore.

Ah, but it lives on in our hearts.


Gravatar(starts batting eyes and smiling at all the ladies)


GravatarIt's parody.

I thought it was a pun.


GravatarSIX MONTHS!!!
bunnypants


Otherwise known as a Friedman.


GravatarAnd ice skate - mustn't forget that. It's mandatory that our Secretary of State be able to execute a triple Lutz.

I cannot accept any leader who cannot best me at curling.


GravatarI really like "Joke Line" . I'm surprised no one thought of it sooner; I wish I had.

And now for breffix.


Gravatar(starts batting eyes and smiling at all the ladies)
BlakNo1


(batting furiously and smiling right back.)


GravatarThe USSR doesn't exist, but the Right is going to invent it all over again.

They loves their boogy men.


GravatarPoor Condi! Mired in pre-1991 thinking! And why was she Provost at Stanford?


GravatarHey baby, wanna come upstairs and see my owls?


GravatarThere's owls, naturally. I was just having so much fun down here.


GravatarThe USSR doesn't exist, but the Right is going to invent it all over again.

The seamless replacement of the War on Communism with the War on Terror is profoundly stupid and disturbing.

Meanwhile, lest we forget, the nation of Russia still has many, many megatons worth of nuclear warheads pointed at our cities. And that nation is farther from stable than it's ever been.


Gravatar(starts batting eyes and smiling at all the ladies)
BlakNo1

(batting furiously and smiling right back.)
Tena


Where the term "moonbat" comes from.


GravatarIt's parody. Read the link, it's quite funny.
BlakNo1


I figured that, but the post just played right into what I was saying earlier, so I just went with it...



GravatarJoke Line should someday explain the "warrior ethic" of Bush-Cheney, as opposed to Kerry-Murtha-Gore-Hackett, etc. I will spit in his face if ever given the chance. I hope he dies slowly and painfully, today.


GravatarCOMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM at WORK

Two Republican policy actions the past week unmask their social Darwinist philosophy:

1) the Bush Administration increased the work requirements of welfare recipients. Presently, welfare policy has time eligibility restrictions, then recipients are permanently taken off welfare. The period allowed welfare receipients the opportunity to receive education & training to become regular members of the workforce. The new Bush rules forces much higher percentages of recipients to spent this period just working at the lowly minimum wage rather than receive preparation for meaningful jobs.

Also, due to low IQ, serious long term mental problems, recurring physicial problems, a reasonable percentage of welfare recipients are incapable of holding steady jobs. As a college professor, I used to look at these studies on the impaired welfare recipients & the estimates ranged from 18 to 28% of welfare recipients. The welfare legislation passed treated the percent as around 20%, a low ball figure that assumed people incapable of holding jobs should be required to work.

The real point of all this is the continuation of the Repub tradition of going after the weakest in society.

To be continued.


GravatarIts clear. The Note is a group of baseball fans. If you bat 300 you're a winner.

Sorry The Note people, but in real life 300 sucks. Three hundred in school or on the job means you're a failure and the moron-in-chief is a failure in the purist sense of the word.


GravatarEvery one knows Americans answer poll questions by describing the belief they want not the reality that is.

Fiddling while Rome burns...


GravatarIn Bush-fellating media, Disney cartoons and many kindergartens, WANTING something to be true is the same as it actually being true. And the wanting it reallyreallyreally to be true is the same as being *very certain* that it *is* true.
Therefore, Bush is on the rebound. He MUST be. They're all VERY sure of it, facts be damned.


GravatarBUSH PRESIDENCY: A MIND-NUMBING DISGRACE!

Peace,


GravatarJust for the record, Time's poll doesn't signal the end of Bush's feeble mini-bounce. Time hasn't polled since the end of March; back then, everybody was reporting approval in the upper 30's. Bush's swoon to 32% occurred in April and May.


GravatarOT: I was wondering why this blog doesn't like to talk about the crimes being committed by our soldiers in Iraqistan. Yes, I blog them on my own blog, but people actually read Eschaton. I'm thinking the same liberal bashing that works against our intrepid reporters in DC works against our intrepid blogger from Philly. Kos got the smackdown and he fell in line. Atrios never got a hard smackdown, but learned Kos's lesson well - step out of line and we'll make your life miserable.

Stepping out of line includes, among other things, pointing out war crimes committed by U.S. soldiers - even if they're daily occurrences.


GravatarBefore we start getting all warm fuzzies about the Bush deadcat bounce, let's not lose sight of the fact that.....................

.................HE JUST GOT A RECORD LOW IN THE TIME POLL RELEASED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

WHERE'S THE PONY?


GravatarYour stupid poll with the approval rating doesn't mean didly squat. The GOP is going to make big gains in November.

God Bless our President, and
God Bless our Troops


Gravatarare bloggers slowly beginning to mainstream whore? are bloggers the future cnn's and fox news type celebs?


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