I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
FRIST!
Damn straight!
Get any foul balls?
(That was not a straight line.)
a win is a rare occurrance this season
Um,...hooray?
Baseball is as boring as YouTube Wars.
Let's go Red Sox.
Mary Cheney dislikes the "L" Word:
Late in the book, [Cheney] describes hissing a furious expletive at the TV when Senator John Kerry referred to her as a "lesbian" in the third 2004 presidential debate (she prefers referring at arm's length to "my sexual orientation," as if it were an intransigent military position, perhaps, or a pesky shadow she just can't shake). She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.' "
Was Robin Roberts pitching?
She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.' "
Wha happa?
did someone drown "A Real Photographer" in his fixing bath yet? or perhaps strangle him with a section of hose?
Well, I am a Pirates fan. Unless I am watching the Red Sox.
10th?
.
I have Phillies season tickets for all Sunday home games. I'll be at the Park tomorrow afternoon...
I was at a Rochester Red Wings baseball game last week and some pitcher (Jason Davis???) for the Buffalo Bisons was throwing 100 mile per hour fastballs.
Even if the public 'Jugs' gun wasn't calibrated he was throwing 6 or 7 mph faster than any other pitcher all night.
.
A hissy fit over the word lesbian? Gay is a neutral term? WTF?
She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.'"
"Lesbians" are always angry, form womyn's studies groups, buzzcut their hair, and french kiss their girlfriends in public.
"Gay women" become Secretary of State.
I hope you took sharply-focused pictures, DUNCAN.
Atrios, I know what you mean. The three Braves games I've been to in my whole life were losing games.
A hissy fit over the word lesbian? Gay is a neutral term? WTF?
Give the woman a break. The subtitle of her life is "I Hate Myself FOr Loving You" ("You" being everyone from mom and dad to the entire republican party.)
Nice park down there.
ALLEZ LES BLEUS!
What happened to threadbot, anyway?
My admittedly straight perspective is "gay" means male homosexuals, "lesbian" means female homosexuals. I think the acronym GLBT is a good clue that Cheney is as fucked as her father.
Fuck Bush btw. And please let Fritz frisk fisting flipflopping Frist first!
Oui, Allez les Bleus!
Although some of the old Italian guys in my neighborhood have decked out their houses in Forza Azurri gear, which is cool.
Late in the book, [Cheney] describes hissing a furious expletive at the TV when Senator John Kerry referred to her as a "lesbian" in the third 2004 presidential debate (she prefers referring at arm's length to "my sexual orientation," as if it were an intransigent military position, perhaps, or a pesky shadow she just can't shake). She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.' "
What. The. Fuck?
She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.'
I remember when they used to talk about legalizing "lesbian marriage," which everyone was against. But when they changed it to "gay marriage," everyone was cool with it.
Who the fuck would do this? ...
States Ban Hunting of Live Animals over the Internet
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/
20...overtheinternet
Louisiana has joined 21 other states in banning Internet hunting, the practice of using a mouse click to kill animals on a distant game farm.
The cyber-shooting idea was the brainchild of Texan John Lockwood, who started the web site Live-Shot.com.
The idea was this: Hunters sign up on the web site and pay some $1,500 or more. They schedule a session, then log on at their appointed time to watch a feeding station on the computer screen. The animal that was ordered—from wild hogs to antelope—is in the area, and when it approaches the food, the hunter moves on-screen crosshairs into place. A click of the mouse fires a rifle to kill the animal.
The armchair hunter's trophy animal would then be mounted and shipped for display.
Texas outlawed the practice last year.
Humane Society executive vice president Michael Markarian was pleased with the decision in Louisiana.
My admittedly straight perspective is "gay" means male homosexuals, "lesbian" means female homosexuals. I think the acronym GLBT is a good clue that Cheney is as fucked as her father.
GLBTQ. I was kicked around the block once for forgetting Queer. I don't know what the distinction is because I'm a rank amateur when it comes to GLBTQ issues.
I want Zidame to get one last great tropyhy before he retires. What a football player and a man
I thought gay meant happy...
A click of the mouse fires a rifle to kill the animal.
Well, they got it half right, anyway.
Humane Society executive vice president Michael Markarian was pleased with the decision in Louisiana.
Richard | 07.08.06 - 11:04 pm | #
As am I. Goddamn asshole armchair sadists.
I wish I could quit lesbians.
w00t. Now they just have to trade Tom Gordon, Bobby Abreu, Pat Burrell (as if anyone wants his salary), Rheal Cormier, and hang a giant banner from Citizens Bank Park that says "Wait Till Next Year".
Who the fuck would do this? ...
States Ban Hunting of Live Animals over the Internet
Sounds like how Rumsfeld plans to run the high tech wars he's planned. (Just go and sit in that chair in the field please, Mr. al-Qaeda guy.)
Humane Society executive vice president Michael Markarian was pleased with the decision in Louisiana.
Richard
Tell me that story's a gag...please.
.
She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.'
I know what she means. I went to the video store to rent some lesbian porn. They told me the lesbian porn is disgusting, and that true Texas men only rent gay porn.
I heard gay photographers are OK, but lesbian photographers never focus. Something to do with "wet photography."
I wish I could quit lesbians.
NTodd, List Wanker | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:05 pm | #
I just wish you'd focus the goddamn camera when you snap pictures of them going at it.
GLBTQ. I was kicked around the block once for forgetting Queer. I don't know what the distinction is because I'm a rank amateur when it comes to GLBTQ issues.
I guess I'm old fashioned: back in my day it was GLBT, and that's what our Bridge organization always talked about in its literature. And yes, as a matter of fact, I hung out with all the out queers, which is why future girlfriends thought I was queer. And vegetarian, for some reason.
did someone drown "A Real Photographer" in his fixing bath yet? or perhaps strangle him with a section of hose?
His world became solarized, which confused him.
Thers, I challenge you to a duel with Jeff Goldstein's dick.
but lesbian photographers never focus.
Lensbians?
I thought gay meant happy...
Fred
So when Natalie Wood sings that she feels pretty, oh so pretty...so pretty and witty and gay....it changes the whole plot line of West Side Story.
I wish I could quit lesbians.
NTodd, List Wanker | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:05 pm | #
A friend of mine once said that he felt that he was a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
I just wish you'd focus the goddamn camera when you snap pictures of them going at it.
DON'T MOCK MOTION BLUR, MOTHERFUCKER!
I heard gay photographers are OK, but lesbian photographers never focus. Something to do with "wet photography."
DON'T M...I'll, uh, be right back.
Only two killed in the Russian plane crash.
I hung out with all the out queers, which is why future girlfriends thought I was queer. And vegetarian, for some reason.
We've seen pictures of your office. No gay man would live in the midst of that.
As am I. Goddamn asshole armchair sadists.
Phila
What's Cheney going to do when the stents in his knees give out and he can't move anymore? That fucker will likely still want to slaughter animals and drink "Dr. Pepper" while on a ventilator.
"Only two killed in the Russian plane crash.
Ô¿Ô "
Considering the track record of Russian Civil Aircraft, that would then be a design flaw. Too many survivors.
(Yes it is a bad joke)
Lensbians?
Eli | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:07 pm | #
I hate those lensbians. I think they autofocus men, instead.
which is why future girlfriends thought I was queer. And vegetarian, for some reason.
NTodd
Flouncing about with tofu, were you?
but lesbian photographers never focus
Sapphocus?
What the hell is wet photography? Is there dry photography? Chemicals vs. digital? Porn vs. family outings?
That fucker will likely still want to slaughter animals and drink "Dr. Pepper" while on a ventilator.
Custom iron lung with laser-guided missile launchers.
Only two killed in the Russian plane crash.
Ô¿Ô "
Where did you get that report?
.
Humane Society executive vice president Michael Markarian was pleased with the decision in Louisiana.
Richard | 07.08.06 - 11:04 pm | #
As am I. Goddamn asshole armchair sadists.
Toby must have a lot of trophies.
I love flouncing with tofu. Only in a queer, wet way, though.
What's Cheney going to do when the stents in his knees give out and he can't move anymore?
Pay people to stop by the ranch / cabin / hospital room and take one in the face.
What the hell is wet photography?
I think it involves close-ups.
The Neutron Bomb of YouTube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5AsqK...earch=bj%
20bear
We've seen pictures of your office. No gay man would live in the midst of that.
Oddly, it was my messy room and the fact that I ate hamburgers that convinced the lovely females that I wasn't queer, despite the fact that I thought Alec Baldwin was hot (this was 15 years ago, mind).
Oh, wow...is this a baseball thread?
You haven't seen where I live. I still have an oak desk on its side amoung all the different parts beside a huge pile of washed clothes lying on the floor. I was a little embarrassed when the AC guy came in, though.
You can feed an entire gay wedding party with only 3 dollars' worth of tofu.
They have caged tofu shooting parties?
I challenge you to a duel with Jeff Goldstein's dick.
That seems to be the most discussed l'il slice of Vienna sausage on all the Internets.
Lensbians?
Many prefer a slower shudder speed to a large aperture size.
wingnut or parody update--
Yeaterday I asked if anyone knew if shelleytheconservative.cam was real or parody - nobody was sure. I read the Inconvenient Truth post again and decided it was parody- after several pages of freeper fuckwad rant the following paragraph appears near the end:
"What’s more, the details of Gore’s wacky theories aren’t as important as the motive behind them. Just think about it. How convenient would it be to have an invisible enemy, that no one can see and that can never be stopped in our lifetime? If that were the case, the liberals would be able to ensure that the country would permanently be afraid and on a war-footing. They’d be able to pass all kinds of crazy legislation because of the ‘emergency’ and anyone that criticized them would be labelled as “unpatriotic”? and a “traitor”?."
Very droll, not drool as I thought at first.
I love flouncing with tofu. Only in a queer, wet way, though.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:11 pm | #
I carved a love doll from 60 cents' worth of tofu. It was better then any woman I've been with. And forty-two of my friends felt the same way.
That opens the possiblity of Cheney shooting someone on the face from his laptop.
As reported here on the news in Chicago, Bush comes to town on Thursday to get away from Washington. Mayor Daley, fine Democrat that he is, arranges a birthday dinner for Bush on Thursday. Much kissy-face talk between Bush and Daley. (Dis Patrick Fitzgerald guy is closin' in on da boat of 'em!) Bush gets a bunch of local CEOs to join him for breakfast on Friday, but they all scratch their heads and wonder out loud why they were invited in the first place. Bush has a painful-to-watch 1 hour press conference. Bush does fund-raiser at lunch time for Republican governor candidate, but is told it would be better if he just dropped off a bag of cash for the campaign and showed up late at night when no one would see him. Bush White House tell local Republicans to set up a downtown photo-op for Bush at a Loop manufacturing site on Friday afternoon. Locals inform White House the last manufacturer left the Loop at least a century ago. Thanks for the visit, Mr. President!
They have caged tofu shooting parties?
ellroon lambofascist | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:12 pm | #
I know why the caged tofu sings.
You haven't seen where I live. I still have an oak desk on its side amoung all the different parts beside a huge pile of washed clothes lying on the floor. I was a little embarrassed when the AC guy came in, though.
Tear up that man's gay permit!
Where did you get that report?
.
Agent Orange
Reuters, breaking.
Bas-ee-ball has bin bery bery good to me!
Ugg.
Count me in the realm of web site owners now. I just set up a new site that should be online in a few days.
Now all I have to do is learn how to create a web page.
For the record, I have a picture of a canoe up at my homepage. I think it's in focus, but WTF do I know? I'm as blind as a bat--I'm like the Beethoven of the photography world, but less crazy and German.
Ntodd wears tofu bras?
States Ban Hunting of Live Animals over the Internet
But did they ban shooting people in the face over the internet?
I thought gay meant happy...
http://www.superdickery.com/sedu...duction/
39.html
You haven't seen where I live. I still have an oak desk on its side amoung all the different parts beside a huge pile of washed clothes lying on the floor. I was a little embarrassed when the AC guy came in, though.
BAD QUEER, BAD QUEER!
Now make some soup. With bacon, so tigre can enjoy it...
the Phillies actually won
And the Bombers (Bobmmmers!) beat the Argos.
And anybody heard Ruthie Foster? She is amazing.
"Locals inform White House the last manufacturer left the Loop at least a century ago. Thanks for the visit, Mr. President!"
:0 
I was a little embarrassed when the AC guy came in, though.
Ô¿Ô | 07.08.06 - 11:12 pm | #
Had you been here earlier, you would have learned that using an AC proves that you are an evil fascist, so of course you should be embarrassed!
The subtitle of her life is "I Hate Myself FOr Loving You" ("You" being everyone from mom and dad to the entire republican party.)
res ipsa loquitur
Well, really. Can you blame her?
BAD QUEER, BAD QUEER!
...
NTodd, List Wanker
You rang?
Looks like the fever broke. He must be resting.
Ah, the superdickery link.
Here's the famous boner via K&Y:
http://www.superdickery.com/ones.../oneshot/
6.html
Which is more gay, wet tofu photography or dry tofu photography? Or are they both lesbian?
Reuters, breaking.
Ô¿Ô |
This one that says 150 have been killed???
MOSCOW (Reuters) - A plane with 200 people on board crashed on landing in Siberia in Russia early on Sunday, Russian news agencies said, and Interfax said over 150 had been killed, quoting prosecutors and police.
Bush White House tell local Republicans to set up a downtown photo-op for Bush at a Loop manufacturing site on Friday afternoon. Locals inform White House the last manufacturer left the Loop at least a century ago. Thanks for the visit, Mr. President!
No. Frikkin'. Way. I've been away from the news this week. Did this truly occur?
They should have had Bush on Oprah so she could ask HIM why he lied. Oprah, she don't like the liars, I hear.
I challenge you to a duel with Jeff Goldstein's dick.
That seems to be the most discussed l'il slice of Vienna sausage on all the Internets.
Thers, Extant
I was just at TalkLeft.
What is it about Goldstein that constantly has him involved in these things?
He's always in some fucknut of a dispute with someone.
Which is more gay, wet tofu photography or dry tofu photography? Or are they both lesbian?
Thers, Extant
Tofu is the milieu of asexual hermaphrodites.
I also have some filled filing cabinet drawer stacked on top of each other sitting on the carpet by an unused TV. (I'll get around to sorting that out one day...
Which is more gay, wet tofu photography or dry tofu photography? Or are they both lesbian?
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:17 pm | #
Soy Daguerreotypography is teh queerest!
BAD QUEER, BAD QUEER!
...
NTodd, List Wanker
You rang?
Uh, yeah. Whatcha doin' aftah?
Had you been here earlier, you would have learned that using an AC proves that you are an evil fascist, so of course you should be embarrassed!
rorschach
A/C is resposnible for the collapse of Western civilization.
Well, that and cable TV.
Heh Heh Heh,
Powerful GOP Activist Sees His Influence Slip Over Abramoff Dealings
"The idea that our friend John McCain yelling at me would hurt me misses McCain's position" among conservatives, Norquist said. "John McCain thinks he can't be president if I'm standing here saying he's got a problem with taxes."
Mark Salter, McCain's longtime aide, replied: "Obviously, Grover is not well. It would be cruel of us to respond in kind."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6070800983.html
So two thugs are going at each other. The must mean trouble for dems.
Aaargh! Cleared ye olde cache!
The "you rang" and "asexual hermaphrodites" anonymous posts were mine.
Good evening folks!
Hey now, stop picking on Incog. Straight men would have a pile of dirty clothes next to the desk.
Locals inform White House the last manufacturer left the Loop at least a century ago. Thanks for the visit, Mr. President!
sout-sider
The RNC wasn't kidding when they selected their 2004 campaign song..."We're Gonna Party Like It's 1899!"
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Soy Daguerreotypography is teh queerest!
YOU SPEAK FOR ME, MOTHERFUCKER!
hello, dears. happy saturday, that is, it still is Saturday here in the PNW.
Which is more gay, wet tofu photography or dry tofu photography? Or are they both lesbian?
Thers, Extant
Batman pulling a boner on the Joker.
Heh. I said "boner."
I really gotta get a life.
Speaking of photos, Phila, you've got mail with Hubert Sumlin's picture. Or should have, soon.
Incog, how's String doing in all your hetero-esque mess?
What is it about Goldstein that constantly has him involved in these things?
He prefers to create drama to distract himself from all the icky stuff oozing around inside his skull.
Straight men would have a pile of dirty clothes next to the desk.
puppethead
That pile is on the other side of my bed.
"A/C is resposnible for the collapse of Western civilization.
Well, that and cable TV.
Rmj, Uncredentialed |"
Don't forget fast food. Slow food is better.
Soy Daguerreotypography is teh queerest!
YOU SPEAK FOR ME, MOTHERFUCKER!
NTodd, List Wanker | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:20 pm | #
But only by means of the phonautograph, so we can't play it back.
A friend dropped in, who needed to vent as much as I did. We vented. I now have no idea what's being discussed. Are the really disturbed trools gone?
Aaargh! Cleared ye olde cache!
Dude, post-Stonewall, you don't need to use codewords...
"Wet" photography on plates though not film.
http://www.collodion-artist.com/History/
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"That pile is on the other side of my bed."
Ô¿Ô We are beginning to wonder about you, because of this and the girls who like to stop by, to get you to go dancing.
Incog, how's String doing in all your hetero-esque mess?
NTodd, List Wanker
She's down with the clutter. Provides her plenty of little pathways to hide in and run crazily around.
But only by means of the phonautograph, so we can't play it back.
Damn, we shoulda used wax cylinders.
I'll come in again...
Don't forget fast food. Slow food is better.
EkCenTriK
And comic books. Now that there is no longer a Comics Code Authority, or whatever it was, dogs sleep with cats, and cats with dogs, and all manner of nightmares of Bilbical proportions walk the earth.
Neal Ascherson in a NYRB piece a few years ago said something to the effect that he no longer uses the phrase 'European civilization' to describe the vigorous, barbaric place...
"And comic books. Now that there is no longer a Comics Code Authority,"
That's timing, watching a comics retro on the History channel right now.
She's down with the clutter. Provides her plenty of little pathways to hide in and run crazily around.
I had a sneaking suspicion! Sam loves creeping through my office. And all the dog detritus in the living room. And the unmowed lawn.
Really, felines I think evolved to like clutter so they can hide behind it as they stalk, then pounce at the last minute on the unsuspecting piece of crumpled paper...
Daguerrotypes, piles of clothes, A/C?
And comic books. Now that there is no longer a Comics Code Authority, or whatever it was, dogs sleep with cats, and cats with dogs, and all manner of nightmares of Bilbical proportions walk the earth.
Frederic Wertham, come back and save us!
Neal Ascherson in a NYRB piece a few years ago said something to the effect that he no longer uses the phrase 'European civilization' to describe the vigorous, barbaric place...
ProfWombat
I thought Hitler knocked the last props out from under that idea.
Shows I haven't been paying attention, I guess....
he no longer uses the phrase 'European civilization' to describe the vigorous, barbaric place...
I see it more as Epcot center, only enlarged a bit.
http://www.superdickery.com/ones.../oneshot/ 6.html
Jay C. | 07.08.06 - 11:17 pm | #
Pardon my boner!
""And comic books. Now that there is no longer a Comics Code Authority,"
That's timing, watching a comics retro on the History channel right now.
EkCenTriK |"
When I think about it, it's on cable and the A/C is running at the moment and I had KFC for dinner.
Sorry folks, it is all my fault.
Now that there is no longer a Comics Code Authority, or whatever it was, dogs sleep with cats, and cats with dogs, and all manner of nightmares of Bilbical proportions walk the earth.
Rmj, Uncredentialed |
Oh nooooo! Thor will cut his hair! Hulk will get rid of his strange collection of stretchy purple pants! Batman will run about nude....
Let me think about this...
Dear Atrios:
Please write about the economy more often. Gas went up to $3.22 a gallon here recently in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It popped back down to $3.12 after hovering at $3.17 for most of last week. Interest rates continue to rise. Employment growth is stagnant. I think I saw two SUVs driving around today with FOR SALE signs in their rear windows. I think it's all going to tank seriously after the midterms in November. Is there a recession in the making?
You know economics. Please write about it. Thank you.
RMJ: do the lions lie down with the lambs, then? Even the rabid, venom spewing ones?
So much for stereotypes: I keep my socks and underwear strategically piled on my closet's largest shelf, which is to say the floor, and I'm gayer than, to use Patton Oswalt's phrase, "eight guys blowing nine guys."
Dude, post-Stonewall, you don't need to use codewords...
NTodd, List Wanker
Oh, Mary!!! *SNAP*
Pardon my boner!
Phila
Heh. He said "boner."
Okay, I really gotta go....
What is it about Goldstein that constantly has him involved in these things?
Some things are just meant to be. The sun rises in the east, George Bush lies, Goldstein cannot resist proving what an utter maroon he really is....
Really, felines I think evolved to like clutter
Not only felines. Many a time I've heard from fishermen that 'Bass like structure'
Got those pics, Karin...thanks!
How was it?
digital, film, wet plate, wet film (whatever the hell that is), daguerreotype. . . doesn't matter. the interesting thing is light.
then pounce at the last minute on the unsuspecting piece of crumpled paper...
NTodd, List Wanker
...or the ankle of any unsuspecting Two Legger walking by....
pity the goldstein. years ago he was amusing and sensible, if leaning too far into wingnuttia.
now he's a sad nutty shell of a pathetic individual.
RMJ: Ascherson so remarked, I seem to recall, in reviewing work on the Nazis...
Hmmmmmm.
You know economics. Please write about it. Thank you.
NealB | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:26 pm | #
And while you're at it, Atrios, why don't you talk more about Marinus Van Der Lubbe? And switchgrass?
Given the amount of time I spend here, I consider it my due.
You know economics. Please write about it. Thank you.
NealB
And when you're done with that. Try the biofuels.
Dear Atrios:
Please write about white phosphorous more often. Munitions went up to $3.22 per projectile recently in Haditah, Iraq. It popped back to do $3.21 after hover at $3.17 for most of last week. IED attacks continue to rise. School paintings are stagnant. I think I saw two Hummers driving around Baghdad today with FUCK BUSH signs on their rear armor plating. I think it's all going to tank--or armored personal carrier--seriously after the midterms in November. Is there a fucking disaster in the making?
You know armored weaponry. Please write about it. Thank you.
Pardon my boner!
Phila
It was bad enough that they used that term pre-WWII commonly to describe an error. But did they really have to describe the event as "pulling" a boner?
And comic books. Now that there is no longer a Comics Code Authority, or whatever it was, dogs sleep with cats, and cats with dogs, and all manner of nightmares of Bilbical proportions walk the earth.
The Comics Code Authority actually still exists, though only DC and Archie comics submit their comics for approval anymore. Marvel created their own ratings system about 5 years ago.
Yes, I am a comics geek.
Shit, I should just copy and paste like the trolls. I'm too drunk to take dictation.
Heh. I said 'dick'.
Did the Sultan of Switchgrass distinguish himself today? The world wants to know...
Pardon my boner!
Phila
Something about Batman heading to the library with "let's continue our study of the World's Greatest Boners" just makes me laugh like a bad blogfascist.
years ago he was amusing and sensible, if leaning too far into wingnuttia.
Really? One could indulge in the wanking that is Pasty years ago?
And I thought he was a recent phenomenon.....
Maybe Atrios can use one of these to get off the biofuels schneid.
"did they really have to describe the event as "pulling" a boner?
Max Planck"
Are you really going to argue with the Greatest Generation.
The Best Man at my wedding works for DC. He's an art director. Introduced me to a bunch of editors and touch-up artists and other people, some even quasi-famous in the biz. He always gives me free comix.
Heh. I said 'dick'.
NTodd, List Wanker
spelled it wrong.....
Cats DO lopve clutter. As a companion to two Manx kitties and as an inveterate "piler" of papers, etc, I can so attest. If everything were neat and straight, I think my sweeties would be less happy...possibly even depressed by the stark order of things.
Sometimes what is dark in a picture is what's most interesting in it.
http://static.flickr.com/26/
6147...1a288f1b4_b.jpg
"Some people in New York tell me, 'I don't like air conditioning.' I can see what they mean, because air conditioning is, like, a definite solution to a problem. Oh, it's hot in here. Click. Now it's cool in here. You're right, that does suck. It reminds me a time when I was hungry and ate that food--that shitty satisfied feeling."
-- Todd Barry
Gas went up to $3.22 a gallon here recently in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It popped back down to $3.12 after hovering at $3.17 for most of last week. Interest rates continue to rise. Employment growth is stagnant. I think I saw two SUVs driving around today with FOR SALE signs in their rear windows. I think it's all going to tank seriously after the midterms in November. Is there a recession in the making?
You know economics. Please write about it. Thank you.
NealB
My sense is that people are complaining a lot less about the current higher gasoline prices than they did in the 1970s. I think the reason is back then fewer people were able or willing to buy gasoline with a credit card. No cash in your pocket = no gas in the tank.
Today the thinking might be 'I already carry $10,000 in credit card debt, what's another G! Filler up regular on credit'
The oil companies know with Bush and the Republicans in control they're immune to any congressional or government oversite and together with the creidt card companies continue redistributing the nation's wealth out of the pockets of the working/middle class.
.
I guess I should just go vent some more, then.
Atrios:
You know tofu, and tofu-related architecture. I saw two SUVs made of tofu today with "for sale" signs in the soy-based windows.
Please write about tofu more often.
Got those pics, Karin...thanks!
How was it?
It was a good time. Hubert is even better than he was 15 years ago-maybe he liked the venue better. Nice mellow crowd, outside by the beach. The local musicians who got to be his sidemen seemed to be thrilled to find themselves on stage with him.
Got those pics, Karin...thanks!
How was it?
It was a good time. Hubert is even better than he was 15 years ago-maybe he liked the venue better. Nice mellow crowd, outside by the beach. The local musicians who got to be his sidemen seemed to be thrilled to find themselves on stage with him.
by the way, a guy i work with has a night illumination flare that his son stole from his employer (united states army). i told him not to shoot it off without me. according to his son it is quite impressive. i am looking forward to seeing it. does that make me a bad liberal?
Introduced me to a bunch of editors and touch-up artists and other people, some even quasi-famous in the biz. He always gives me free comix.
And this is reason enough for me to hate you.
How Toby would look if he wore a Batman suit...
http://www.superdickery.com/sedu...duction/
64.html
It was bad enough that they used that term pre-WWII commonly to describe an error. But did they really have to describe the event as "pulling" a boner?
Max Planck | 07.08.06 - 11:30 pm | #
We've made a lot of progress since then. Now, when you screw up, you can simply say, "I totally fucked up, like the ass-eating jerkoff I am."
pasty blogged years ago back in the day. he was one of the few conservatives that lasted for awhile on my blogroll, then he quit blogging for unstated reasons for an extended period of time. I actually enjoyed his blog enough that I'd occasionally check in on his hiatus page to see if he had returned.
Say, has anybody seen my friend A Real Photographer? How about Seyomour Buttz?
If I confessed I'm too lazy to look up switchgrass yet am curious enough to ask about it, would you hold it against me?
i am looking forward to seeing it. does that make me a bad liberal?
Set it off while things are wet, to not catch your state on fire.
mena!!
whatcha wanna vent about?
We've made a lot of progress since then. Now, when you screw up, you can simply say, "I totally fucked up, like the ass-eating jerkoff I am."
Phila
Heh. He said totally.
The Ascherson article is from the April 11, 2002 NYRB:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/
...rticle_id=15255
When Theodor Adorno said that it was barbaric to write poetry after Auschwitz, he unwittingly launched ten thousand essay questions. The remark still resounds, not only in Germany and not always in ways that Adorno would have wished it to be understood. But one of its legitimate implications, it seems to me, is that the expression 'European Civilization' should have become unusable after 1945.
...
Evening, Steve Miller still can, BTW.
Heh. I said 'dick'.
NTodd, List Wanker |
no, dear, you said "dict", which is waaayy different. So sorry.
But one of its legitimate implications, it seems to me, is that the expression 'European Civilization' should have become unusable after 1945.
If not before.
When will Gore make his next movie: When Air-Conditioners Attack?
does that make me a bad liberal?
Yes. In fact, your even knowing that military stuff exists, not to mention AC, makes you a bad liberal. Bad, bad, bad. Evil. Naughty.
And this is reason enough for me to hate you.
Would it help to know that the Bizarro World #1 he gave me got ripped off along with my iPod last time I flew through LGA?
no, dear, you said "dict", which is waaayy different. So sorry.
Dam, I fuct that up, dint I?
flory!! Thanks for responding, I was about to leave. I guess I'm tired of venting about my rotten kid. Wanna bag on repukes? Those guys are nuts.
by the way, a guy i work with has a night illumination flare that his son stole from his employer (united states army). i told him not to shoot it off without me. according to his son it is quite impressive. i am looking forward to seeing it. does that make me a bad liberal?
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
Where do you live? You might make Canada invade...
no, dear, you said "dict", which is waaayy different. So sorry.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:36 pm | #
Is it better to dick or to be dict?
Depends on my mood, personally.
i am looking forward to seeing it. does that make me a bad liberal?
No, it makes you a guy.
How Toby would look if he wore a Batman suit...
http://www.superdickery.com/sedu...sedu...duction/
64.html
Richard | 07.08.06 - 11:34 pm | #
I'm sorry...this is really funny
BTW, I learned tonite that 'absofuckinglutely' is NOT a real word in English.
This has been a Pubic Srevice Announcemente.
Depends on my mood, personally.
rorschach
not having one, dear, I can't say. It's completely your call.
I guess I'm tired of venting about my rotten kid.
He's not rotten. Just 19.
Allez les Bleus!
Would it help to know that the Bizarro World #1 he gave me got ripped off along with my iPod last time I flew through LGA?
Yes.
And I have to confess, I've deleted all your playlists.
Pubic Srevice Announcemente
NTodd is speaking Italian or Drunknese?
BTW, I learned tonite that 'absofuckinglutely' is NOT a real word in English.
What is it a real word in?
'absofuckinglutely' is NOT a real word in English.
yet...yet...it really should be.
Phila: no argument from me...
Wonder Woman fights off a giant yellow phallus monster...
http://www.superdickery.com/bond...bondage/
18.html
Depends on my mood, personally.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:38 pm | #
We've got to stop Rorschach! Those boner crimes are making us look bad! And I'm worried about the boner he's readying for me!
Depends on my mood, personally.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:38 pm | #
We've got to stop Rorschach! Those boner crimes are making us look bad! And I'm worried about the boner he's readying for me!
BTW, I learned tonite that 'absofuckinglutely' is NOT a real word in English.
==
Dope. It's "absodamnfuckinglutely."
When will Gore make his next movie: When Air-Conditioners Attack?
ellroon lambofascist
"My fellow Earthicans, as I discuss in my book Earth In The Balance and the much more popular Harry Potter And The Balance Of Earth, we need to defend our planet against pollution. As well as dark wizards."
-- First Emperor of the Moon, Al Gore's Head, Futurama
Missed the A/C thing.
Melissa and I were just talking about that.
Never had it until I moved to NM.
It is required here!
(SE TX)
.
It reminds me a time when I was hungry and ate that food--that shitty satisfied feeling.
This fucking slays me.
Allez les Bleus!
The Old Man From Scene 24
Let me guess tomorrow's final score after 90 minutes...uh "0 to 0"?
.
does that make me a bad liberal?
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
no. pyrotechnics are ALWAYS good!!!
Set it off while things are wet, to not catch your state on fire.
Doug, | 07.08.06 - 11:35 pm | #
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now is the time, i guess. i heard on the radio that burn bans had been lifted throughout the state. a lot of people seem really happy about that. apparently lots of people around here have lots of stuff that they have been wanting to take outside and burn, but they couldn't because it was too dry.
I'd occasionally check in on his hiatus page to see if he had returned.
Atrios
Are there archives? I'd have to see an enjoyable pasty to believe it....
BTW, I learned tonite that 'absofuckinglutely' is NOT a real word in English.
What is it a real word in?
Serbo-Croatian. I am not making that up.
'absofuckinglutely' is NOT a real word in English.
yet...yet...it really should be.
Sarah Deere
How can something so absofuckinglutely good be absofuckinglutely wrong?
Depending on just where the electricity comes from that drives them, the ACs are already attacking, seems to me...
Evening, Moonbats and lurkers.
Ned Lamont present as old man runs over people
89 year old driver rumored be working for Leiberman camp.
"An 89-year-old man driving through a crowd at a summer festival panicked after striking one pedestrian and lurched his station wagon through the throng."
Yeah..cause that's what I would do if I hit a pedestrian - panic and keep hitting more. Time to outlaw DWS - Driving While Senile.
And I have to confess, I've deleted all your playlists.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Now I must join the Empire...
going outside to shoot up now. will be scanning all the wunnerful posts upon returning. Not that it necessarily matters! Just sayin'.
Plushie!
Barry from Alaska
She didn't know ratz could have thryroid conditions.....
Let me guess tomorrow's final score after 90 minutes...uh "0 to 0"?
the third place game today was 3-1 Germany.
Which sports do you follow if any?
going outside to shoot up now. will be scanning all the wunnerful posts upon returning. Not that it necessarily matters! Just sayin'.
Sarah Deere
May join you soon.
.
Driving is a huge autonomy issue for the old, just as it is for the young...
apparently night illumination flares burn way up in the sky anyway.
She didn't know ratz could have thryroid conditions.....
flory, Business Manager
Hee hee.
Let me guess tomorrow's final score after 90 minutes...uh "0 to 0"?
.
Agent Orange | 07.08.06 - 11:41 pm | #
you have some sort of point?
We had an old man go bonkers and drive down several blocks of a farmer's market in Los Angeles a few years ago. Totally panicked and froze up. Really sad way to go out.
He's not rotten. Just 19.
NTodd, List Wanker
Department of Redundancy Department...
ellroon,
Wasn't he charged with something and it went to trial? I can't remember the verdict.
He's not rotten. Just 19.
==
Thank you. You don't know how many times I will look at that statement tonight.
apparently night illumination flares burn way up in the sky anyway.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
And make for great UFO stories.
.
We had an old man go bonkers and drive down several blocks of a farmer's market in Los Angeles a few years ago.
I remember that. So tragic. Ran down several people.
I'm sitting here with a woman to my right who is trying to convince me that "I've got goo!" is something Ralph Wiggum -should- say in a Simpsons episode. By attempting to mimic Master Wiggum saying this phrase. Repeatedly.
What trail of events does your life have to take where this seems like a normal thing?
Wasn't he charged with something and it went to trial? I can't remember the verdict.
Sandy-LA 90034
Have forgotten, just remember his confused face in the news.
Max Planck,
I think it was more like 10 or so who died.
BTW, I learned tonite that 'absofuckinglutely' is NOT a real word in English.
What about 'fucknozzle'?
Which sports do you follow if any?
The Old Man From Scene 24
If I 'followed' the World Cup appropriately this year, am I correct in saying this year has had the least amount of goal scoring ever?
OK if not 0 to 0 how tomorrow about 1 to 0.
.
Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18
Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president
What trail of events does your life have to take where this seems like a normal thing?
Nim, ham hock of liberty
==
And you understand that you're too far down that road for anything we say to make any difference, right?
Agent Orange,
Wasn't there some controversy on the news about the soccer balls being new this year and teams were unhappy about the scoring results?
C'mon Agent Orange, are you a Baseball fan? NBA? what sports are you a fan of?
What trail of events does your life have to take where this seems like a normal thing?
Nim, ham hock of liberty
Visit the fever swamps, introduce yourself to a few rabid lambs....and there you are....
What about 'fucknozzle'?
Barry from Alaska
That one's Ukranian.
Mass protest over Mexico election
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/
5161862.stm
I've got goo?
This sentence is heard daily by mothers dealing with the toddler set still wearing diapers, by mothers of children attempting to microwave their socks, by mothers of teenagers using the entire bottle of bleach for their laundry...
What trail of events does your life have to take where this seems like a normal thing?
Well gosh Nim, I thought it was just because of all those things you did?
Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is universal over 18.Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected president, an elected 301-seat House of Representatives, and an appointed 111-member Shura Council share power. The president is head of state, and the prime minister is head of government. The constitution provides that the president be elected by popular vote from at least two candidates endorsed by Parliament; the prime minister is appointed by the president. The presidential term of office is 7 years, and the parliamentary term of elected office is 6 years. Suffrage is univernsal over 18
Yemen is a republic with a bicameral legislature. Under the constitution, an elected presiden
What about 'fucknozzle'?
Barry from Alaska
That one's Ukranian.
flory, Business Manager
Another Atrios/Eschaton advantage, you can learn a foreign language here!
C'mon Agent Orange, are you a Baseball fan? NBA? what sports are you a fan of?
The Old Man From Scene 24
Is there going to be a quiz after I select one and swear I won't google to show how little I know?
.
Nim, did you go and check out Steve Miller tonight?
Anybody else like frozen Trader Joe's mango chunks? I'll share...
"Well gosh Nim, I thought it was just because of all those things you did?
Jay C. "
I refuse to accept that my choices in life had any part of this.
I think it's a cosmic prank of some sort. Occam's razor, you know.
I am a sports fan of no sports.
I find it silly.
.
No, DWD. Not a real big fan. Plus I saw him about 16 years ago in concert and it was pretty lifeless.
We were at a campground with her brother and sister-in-law's 9000 sisters.
Is there going to be a quiz after I select one and swear I won't google to show how little I know?
Bah! you're no fun at all
America is the land of freedom. If the President needs to use extra-legal powers in defense of America, I support him. As long as he is a man of God and is not biased.
apparently night illumination flares burn way up in the sky anyway.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
And make for great UFO stories.
.
agave, spreading confusion
Not as many as swamp gas!
Nim, I guess he still is pretty lifeless: just plays his music. But he does it well and we had a nice time.
"My SUPER ex-Girlfriend"
Thanks, Sandy, but it's mango season. Have a fresh chunk!
As long as he is a man of God and is not biased.
How do you know that these two things are true?
By the way, I have scientific proof that all Liberals are Homosexuals.
What about 'fucknozzle'?
Barry from Alaska
That one's Ukranian.
flory, Business Manager
Another Atrios/Eschaton advantage, you can learn a foreign language here!
Barry from Alaska
Time for Monty Python's Dirty Hungarian Phrasebook Sketch.
"My nipples explode with delight!"
Hmmmm....no contest -- where are you located?
Bah! you're no fun at all
The Old Man From Scene 24
The game (soccer) really needs more scoring is my only point.
BTW I've watched more of the matchs than most folks here I bet.
.
As long as he is a man of God and is not biased.
And you will know this... how?
Off to be here.
I've added some more Plushie, Magoo.
Nite all, see ya tomorrow from Miami.
Ach, the Dogz are annoyed that I'm still up. And I just barfed a frozen pizza. I think that's a hint that I should go to bed. Peace, warm fuzzies and unfocused pictures to you all.
[blapt]
What about 'fucknozzle'?
Barry from Alaska
==
I told my friend about that one - I'm afraid he got all inspired to go home and use it.
Oh - I've got some goo for you alright!
Not as many as swamp gas!
J Allen Hynek of the third kin
Will 'o the wisps?.
A real thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil...ill_o'
_the_wisp
How do you know that these two things are true?
Doug, | 07.08.06 - 11:58 pm | #
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Because I have FAITH and you must not. Look, he USA mainstream is sick pf elitists like you that fo not consider our fats/
yeah, 'night...
'Night, NTodd. Have a great weekend!
Anybody else like frozen Trader Joe's mango chunks? I'll share...
Sandy-LA 90034
Urk...splutter...too much to work with...comedy stall...!
Wasn't there some controversy on the news about the soccer balls being new this year and teams were unhappy about the scoring results?
Sandy-LA 90034
The juiced baseball conspiracy theorists have a substantial case, IMO. The HR leaders went 40's, 40's, 50's, 40's, 70's,50's,50's. I mean, in McGuire's record breaking year, Brady Anderson hit 50. His career average was 19.
Freedom for all USA patriots. Death for all liberal biased colaberators.
Good night, NTodd. May blurry angels sing you to bed.
Another Atrios/Eschaton advantage, you can learn a foreign language here!
Barry from Alaska
At least the naughty bits!
I mean, in McGuire's record breaking year, Brady Anderson hit 50. His career average was 19.
Max Planck
So was it the ball that was 'juiced' or the players. Do you think the manufacturer of the balls could keep it a secret if that was their intention??? A lot of folks must have known.
.
And I just barfed a frozen pizza.
You're supposed to defrost it AND cook it before eating, silly.
Someone just came in and I couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman. I'll just call her a "dyke" since "lesbian" isn't a polite term.
Goodnight NTodd - feel better.
elitists like you that fo not consider our fats
I do try to not consider your fat.
You're supposed to defrost it AND cook it before eating, silly.
The Old Man From Scene 24
The whole thing?!
.
And I just barfed a frozen pizza.
Jeebus, NTodd. Cook it first and you might not have these problems....
What trail of events does your life have to take where this seems like a normal thing?
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
you don't really want to know the answer to this question, do you?
OT?
Just saw the global warming ad with the speeding train and the guy saying it won't effect him.
then he steps out of camera shot to show a little girl on the tracks!
Great fucking commercial!
Best since the Goldwater countdown...which I did see live, yes I'm that old.
So was it the ball that was 'juiced' or the players.
Something, or a combination of things, was up, I think.
Freedom for all USA patriots. Death for all liberal biased colaberators.
Heartland Hal | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:01 am | #
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where do you live, heartland hal?
colaberators
I am not familiar with this word. Please identify the language you were attempting to speak.
Will 'o the wisps?.
A real thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil...ki/Wil...ill_o'
_the_wisp
agave, spreading confusion
Oddly enough, it was swamp gas that convinced Hynek there might be something to all this UFO nonsense. He knew it was BS even as he dutifully spoke the words. The Air Force goofed when they hired an actual scientist to do their debunking...
So flory - tired of running the pukes down? I dunno - I'm kinda tired of all of it at the moment.
elitists like you that fo not consider our fats
Wish I was that drunk.
.
Jeebus, NTodd. Cook it first and you might not have these problems....
flory, Business Manager
Wasn't that a line from an early Woody Allen movie. Diane Keaton asks him why he didn't take the frozen pizza out of the box before he heated it.
He replied, "You're supposed to heat them!?"
.
I live in The Heartland.
hey, 19...steely dan.
It's a great night. The casino/hotel I work at has a Dish package that carries FAUX and CNN. For the last three days the audio has been out on FAUX.
Small victories, we take them where we can get them.
I live in The Heartland.
Heartland Hal | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:08 am | #
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i meant what state do you live in.
Do you think the manufacturer of the balls could keep it a secret if that was their intention??? A lot of folks must have known.
.
Agent Orange
Doesn't MLB own the sweatsho---factory in Puerto Rico that makes all the balls?
I'll just call her a "dyke" since "lesbian" isn't a polite term.
Ô¿Ô
is that the case now or are you just sayin' that?
I have a friend who only heats her frozen pizza until the cheese just barely melts. The crust is still doughy.
I live in The Heartland.
What city is that in?
I live in The Heartland.
If so, it should take heart meds to remove this plaque.
She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.' "
So dyke is wrong? Get over yourself, Mary.
I live in The Heartland.
Heartland Hal | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:08 am | #
One of those places with all the giant porn barns on the interstate, where everyone's into key parties?
Creepy.
Oddly enough, it was swamp gas that convinced Hynek there might be something to all this UFO nonsense. He knew it was BS even as he dutifully spoke the words. The Air Force goofed when they hired an actual scientist to do their debunking...
Elmer, PHD
I've followed the UFO stuff since the early 60's. Loved it, believed, and then found it to be total BS. Ever read Kehoe?
.
i meant what state do you live in.
A state of denial.
I'm serious now...
Are you a Good Leak or a Bad Leak?
This is a question everyone should ask themselves and answer. After all, if you answer incorrectly, you could very well be a traitor, unpatriotic, or *gasp* end up at Gitmo.
elitists like you that fo not consider our fats
Wish I was that drunk.
.
agave, spreading confusion
First thing that crossed my mind. That's just what we need, Blotto the troll...
is that the case now or are you just sayin' that?
Sarah Deere
That's what Mary Cheney said.
I live in The Heartland.
Heartland Hal | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:08 am | #
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i meant what state do you live in.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
He lives in a blue state. Obviously.
Sometimes these trolls remind me of "Bob Roberts". That's not a good thing. Not a good thing at all.
Doesn't MLB own the sweatsho---factory in Puerto Rico that makes all the balls?
Elmer, PHD
From what I've read, they don't own them outright, but the contracts are extremely tightly controlled. I think a plant Haiti made the baseballs for the year Big Mac "saved baseball".
I have another friend who orders his pizza without the sauce.
My, what a popular misspellinatering.
Unless, of course, one is is railing against soft drinks, which could be spelled "cola-berater," which, apparently, is a somewhat German thing to say.
That's what Mary Cheney said.
If Mary Cheney were a clitoris, her dad would be its scarred nagua hide sheath.
That's what Mary Cheney said.
Ô¿Ô
oh, well, yeah. She's the "authori-teh", eh?
So sorry to be so out of step.
I have another friend who orders his pizza without the sauce.
Then what's the point?
I have another friend who orders his pizza without the sauce.
I order mine without tomatoes or tomato sauce.
"Sometimes these trolls remind me of "Bob Roberts". That's not a good thing. Not a good thing at all.
Monica_A:One Bad Motherfucker"
A very prescient movie.
However, it's not so funny now that the satire has trumped reality.
Jack Black in that movie was an over-the-top junior wingnut parody. Now, your average comment thread here is infested with them. But worse.
heartland hal, surely you have heard of states. you know, the united states of america, state's rights. which state do you live in?
factory in Puerto Rico that makes all the balls?
Elmer, PHD
My balls were made in Puerto Rico, too. It's a lot cheaper down there.
colaberators
I am not familiar with this word. Please identify the language you were attempting to speak.
Snow, Deposing Kos
I think its a wingnut synonym for carbuerator.
Heartland has something against the internal combustion engine.
"She was angry, among other reasons, she writes, because "he had used the word 'lesbian,' instead of the more common and politically neutral term 'gay.'"
So what's her beef with Edwards?
Jack Black in that movie was an over-the-top junior wingnut parody. Now, your average comment thread here is infested with them. But worse.
And without the charm.
I order mine without tomatoes or tomato sauce.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:14 am | #
Echidne, were you saying you were vegan on one thread? 'Cause one of those chocolates I sent you had milk, I think...
I live in South Dakota, which is more like the Spleenland.
No, seriously, tell me what's wrong with the composition, or why I shouldn't have gone with a motion blur?
NTodd, List Wanker | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 10:57 pm | #
OMG. Are you still sticking to your guns that your inability to focus properly is some sort of an artistic expression?
Your skills are laughable.
My balls were made in Puerto Rico, too. It's a lot cheaper down there.
Phila
But are they juiced? Moreover, do they have a cushioned cork center?
Your skills are laughable.
A Real Photographer | 07.09.06 - 12:15 am | #
But...but...Ntodd's got a PhD and repairs airplanes!
Late Night
Hey, the Phillies actually won a game I attended.
-Atrios 10:51 PM
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Amazing post. Such insight. Is anyone surprised the traffic is slipping and Malkin has a bigger audience?
i myself live in the only state named after a foreign country, for instance. what state do you live in, hal?
There was a wingnut radio host who said earlier this afternoon that you can rid meat of Mad Cow just by cooking it throughly. They just make up chit they don't know about everything.
So flory - tired of running the pukes down? I dunno - I'm kinda tired of all of it at the moment.
mena
Yeah. I'm pretty worried actually that a lot of us are just gonna say "fuck it" and stay home in November.
I'm gonna do some GOTV in the fall.
"Amazing post. Such insight. Is anyone surprised the traffic is slipping and Malkin has a bigger audience?
Concerned"
Good thing you're around to help keep those traffic numbers up!
Is there really a difference between the terms lesbian and gay? I've always thought they were interchangeable when speaking about gay women. Is there a taboo in the gay community against using the term lesbian? I like to know if there is a preferred term or if Mary is full of shit. I think it's the latter.
I live in a red state.
Echidne, were you saying you were vegan on one thread?
I'm not vegan. I've nearly finished the chocolates.
A Real Photographer, where can we view your pictures?
I've been posting my work, now show us an example of how true art should look by posting your examples.
I think its a wingnut synonym for carbuerator.
Damn. I was hoping it was something that dispenses a carbonated mixer for liquor.
My balls were made in Puerto Rico, too. It's a lot cheaper down there.
Phila
For a second there I thought jack was back.
OMG. Are you still sticking to your guns that your inability to focus properly is some sort of an artistic expression?
Yeah, NTodd...who do you think you are, Michael Kenna?
colaberators
I am not familiar with this word. Please identify the language you were attempting to speak.
Snow, Deposing Kos
I think its a wingnut synonym for carbuerator.
Heartland has something against the internal combustion engine.
flory, Business Manager
I thought he was referring to "liberal calibrators," and I agree that rigid precision is desirable in this regard.
But are they juiced? Moreover, do they have a cushioned cork center?
Max Planck
I'll just interject here that NFL experts are VERY excited that this year, officials will allow players to handle the game balls before playoff games. Don't know the significance -grip or whatnot- but it did lead to several articles with things like "Peyton Manning, for one, can't wait to get his hands on those pregame balls."
Damn "boner" link has me all 12-year old for some reason...
Here's one (oh, no, it's another YouTube, but short) for Mary Cheney, before I hit the sack. Anyone who watches Boston Legal has seen it.
http://tinyurl.com/p36z5 (hope TinyURL works with those long search links)
Is there really a difference between the terms lesbian and gay? I've always thought they were interchangeable when speaking about gay women. Is there a taboo in the gay community against using the term lesbian? I like to know if there is a preferred term or if Mary is full of shit. I think it's the latter.
Monica_A:One Bad Motherfucker | 07.09.06 - 12:17 am | #
Rugmuncher is my preference.
I live in a red state.
Ô¿Ô, Heartland Incog
As do I. Military too. And many here seem pissed off. Why that, I wonder?
I've followed the UFO stuff since the early 60's. Loved it, believed, and then found it to be total BS. Ever read Kehoe?
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agave, spreading confusion
That's pretty much my trajectory, except I keep an open mind now, as opposed to being a True Believer. I think it was Betty and Barney Hill that started me wondering. Yeah, I read Keyhoe, Ruppelt, Adamski, Billy Meier, all that shit. In the late '80s, long into my skeptical phase, I went to a MUFON seminar in Houston, with John Lear, son of the inventor of the 8 track. Fascinating, but nothing to stir the old belief circuits. And you should see some of the books for sale in the lobby at one of those things. Capricorn One was a documentary? I swear, some people believe that stuff just to have something to believe in, and one crackpot idea aint enough, they gotta believe in all of it. Sheesh...
I'm not vegan. I've nearly finished the chocolates.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:17 am | #
How are the little square ones...the ones with cardamom etc? They're the only ones I didn't try...
I've always heard dykes say they preferred the term "lesbian" over "gay" but they just had to deal with it since "gay" is how they're usually referred as.
I've been posting my work, now show us an example of how true art should look by posting your examples.
Doug, | 07.09.06 - 12:17 am | #
Where?
Echidne, were you saying you were vegan on one thread? 'Cause one of those chocolates I sent you had milk, I think...
Phila
You Bastid!
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I think it was Betty and Barney Hill that started me wondering. Yeah, I read Keyhoe, Ruppelt, Adamski, Billy Meier, all that shit. In the late '80s, long into my skeptical phase, I went to a MUFON seminar in Houston, with John Lear, son of the inventor of the 8 track.
I used to read MUFON etc 'cause I worked at a library. Entertaining stuff.
Where?
A Real Photographer | 07.09.06 - 12:20 am | #
How about Flickr? It's free, I believe.
How are the little square ones...the ones with cardamom etc? They're the only ones I didn't try...
The Earl Gray tea ones are very good and the cinnamon ones, too. I don't think there's any cardamom but there's cumin. I haven't tasted those yet.
I order mine without tomatoes or tomato sauce.
Echidne of the snakes
More room for the chocolate?
i always just assumed that ufos were secret nasa projects.
Where?,
search for my name in this thread or the previous one.
Where is your portfolio?
I think Mary Cheney is a very instructive study in the ability of the human mind to rationalize its behavior in order to reduce the stress from cognitive dissonance.
If Mary Cheney were a clitoris, her dad would be its scarred nagua hide sheath.
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Christ spinoza. Thta's harsh. Accurate, maybe, but harsh.
Damn "boner" link has me all 12-year old for some reason...
Jay C. | 07.09.06 - 12:18 am | #
JAYC is a fucking sicko. Mentions boners in the same line as 12 year olds. Closet pedophile.
Closet pedophile.
As such, I speak for All Liberals.
That's what you want, no?
Christ spinoza. Thta's harsh. Accurate, maybe, but harsh.
mena | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:21 am | #
Mena-pause can't spell.
There was a wingnut radio host who said earlier this afternoon that you can rid meat of Mad Cow just by cooking it throughly.
If by "thoroughly," he means cooking it at 1947.52 °F until it's reduced to ash, he's quite correct.
Damn "boner" link has me all 12-year old for some reason...
Jay C. | 07.09.06 - 12:18 am | #
JAYC is a fucking sicko. Mentions boners in the same line as 12 year olds. Closet pedophile.
Truth | 07.09.06 - 12:22 am | #
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Closet pedophile.
As such, I speak for All Liberals.
That's what you want, no?
Jay C. | 07.09.06 - 12:22 am | #
I have half a mind to report you to the authorities.
Heartland has something against the internal combustion engine.
flory, Business Manager
I think Hal is more into external combustion, as in eat a can of beans, drop trou, flick the ol' Bic.
Does a job on the ol' dingleberries, I bet...
I hate to leave you with the trolls, but it's time to turn in. Good night, rabid lamb chops!
Where?,
search for my name in this thread or the previous one.
Where is your portfolio?
Doug, | 07.09.06 - 12:21 am | #
Dodging the issue. Post a link, rembrant.
"Where?"
On the internet!
well, since heartland hal hasn't told us what state he lives in, i will just assume he lives in new jersey. nothing wrong with that or anything. he is probably still googling to find the name of a state in the heartland.
I hate to leave you with the trolls, but it's time to turn in. Good night, rabid lamb chops!
Monica_A:One Bad Motherfucker | 07.09.06 - 12:24 am | #
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good night, fatty.
i always just assumed that ufos were secret nasa projects.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
Only rarely, Aroura, maybe.
Mostly just wacko people misinterpeting the obvious.
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i always just assumed that ufos were secret nasa projects.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
Only rarely, Aroura, maybe.
Mostly just wacko people misinterpeting the obvious.
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If by "thoroughly," he means cooking it at 1947.52 °F until it's reduced to ash, he's quite correct.
Phila
I want my ash cooked rare. And preceded with some hot water soup, please.
I know the "the plain truth" and "Truth" is not it.
Mena-
Well, Nim is using Leon Festinger's psychology to explain her. And if cognitive dissonance could be quantified, god knows Mary Cheney would be venting it off like an an oil platform vents natural gas. I just went for the jugular (so to speak).
There was a wingnut radio host who said earlier this afternoon that you can rid meat of Mad Cow just by cooking it throughly.
And remember to boil water and rip up some sheets.
The Earl Gray tea ones are very good and the cinnamon ones, too. I don't think there's any cardamom but there's cumin. I haven't tasted those yet.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:20 am | #
I wandered into a store today that had absolutely amazing-looking chocolate. Perhaps I'll have to put together another care package someday....
maybe it's just the way i was raised, but if anyone had asked me when i was 4 years old what state i lived in, i could have told them instantly.
i remember when you could drive through roswell and not see one reference to ufo's.
I think Mary Cheney is a very instructive study in the ability of the human mind to rationalize its behavior in order to reduce the stress from cognitive dissonance.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
Very well put. She also has to somehow justify her mother's obvious discomfort with her sexuality with the Official Family Position that they're just a big bundle of love and acceptance.
Just like the Brady's except Mike and Carol don't serve a bowl of stunned live kittens at Christmas dinner, and if they did, Cindy and Jan wouldn't eat them with their bare talons and fangs like Liz and Mary do.
good night, fatty.
Truth |
Right back at you, limpdick!
But I must say I take a strange satisfaction in living in a trailer that was made in Roswell NM...
Strike!
http://static.flickr.com/16/
2086...727316ea4_o.gif
I have half a mind
Truth | 07.09.06 - 12:23 am | #
i remember when you could drive through roswell and not see one reference to ufo's.
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 12:26 am | #
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roswell is kind of a nice town. i rode through there on my guzzi on my way back from austin. stopped at a restaurant there. the place was decorated with old cars and motorcycles. they had an old moto guzzi prominently displayed.
Perhaps I'll have to put together another care package someday....
No. It's my turn now. What would you like? Newt's eyes?
good night, fatty.
Truth |
Right back at you, limpdick!
Monica_A:One Bad Motherfucker | 07.09.06 - 12:27 am | #
references to limpdick? must be another bitter rugmunching man-hater.
There was a wingnut radio host who said earlier this afternoon that you can rid meat of Mad Cow just by cooking it throughly
Good. Lets ship some British beef to all its listeners shall we?
Clean out the gene pool.
I have half a mind
Indeed.
Just heard a funny line:
"Phony as a Chappaquiddick neckbrace."
What happened to threadbot, anyway?
Randolph Carter | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 11:02 pm | #
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Threadbot is over at YouTube. I think he's still looking at the Bea Arthur pr0n.
Now where are your pictures "truth?
i always just assumed that ufos were secret nasa projects.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
NASA is a project by the UFO lizards (such as Nessie) on the Council on Foreign Relations in service to The Beast (aka "Bigfoot"). One day the History Channel will be able to tell the whole story.
The reason aliens became interested in us and UFOs began appearing there is because Roswell was near where they first tested nuclear bombs.
No. It's my turn now. What would you like? Newt's eyes?
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:29 am | #
I'd rather have his whole head on a platter, but the eyes are better than nothing.
yeah, it's ok. i was just referring to the way the ufo stuff is hyped. i guess it's like being the beet capital in the midwest or something--i imagine a bunch of people there got together and said, "hey, we might as well make a few bucks out of this, as long as people are coming here anyway."
Strike!
http://static.flickr.com/16/ 2086...727316ea4_o.gif
Doug, | 07.09.06 - 12:28 am | #
How impressive. What an amazing portfolio.
Just heard a funny line:
"Phony as a Chappaquiddick neckbrace."
WalterNeff, Out of the Will
Yes, but you kinda have to flick the moss off of it.
Okay. I am one thousand three hundred and twenty-two yrs old. I am fucking deeply weary of being politically correct. I do the best I can and wish the best to every-fucking-body.
But, please, folks, get over the hypersentivevity.
I ain't gonna call jews kikes; ain't gonna call vietnamese gooks; ain't gonna call arabians hadjis or ragheads; ain't gonna call Irish Micks.
Dont happen to think of any of these people this way.
But, Christ on steroids, can we stop killing one another over this crap???
Yes, I do like that animation. Sorry you don't.
The reason aliens became interested in us and UFOs began appearing there is because Roswell was near where they first tested nuclear bombs.
Ô¿Ô, Heartland Incog | 07.09.06 - 12:31 am | #
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you're an idiot.
Breaking News from HuffPO:
Colin Powell On Iraq: “We're Not Going To Leave Behind Anything We Like Because We Are In The Middle Of A Civil War”…
Translation: Colin Powell continues fruitless efforts to regain soul.
Poor spineless dickless soulless Colin. You'd think when Karl made the deal, he would've explained the terms better. I guess this is why KKKarl uses the Shrubb as a front man, that purdy grin jess makes folks sign on the dotted line.
The reason aliens became interested in us and UFOs began appearing there is because Roswell was near where they first tested nuclear bombs.
Ô¿Ô, Heartland Incog | 07.09.06 - 12:31 am | #
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it isn't really very near the trinity site.
One day the History Channel will be able to tell the whole story.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:31 am | #
Nonsense. The Saurians would never allow it.
Okay. I am one thousand three hundred and twenty-two yrs old. I am fucking deeply weary of being politically correct. I do the best I can and wish the best to every-fucking-body.
But, please, folks, get over the hypersentivevity.
I ain't gonna call jews kikes; ain't gonna call vietnamese gooks; ain't gonna call arabians hadjis or ragheads; ain't gonna call Irish Micks.
Dont happen to think of any of these people this way.
But, Christ on steroids, can we stop killing one another over this crap???
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:32 am | #
Put down the box of wine and take a deep breath.
roswell is practically in texas.
I think Mary Cheney is a very instructive study in the ability of the human mind to rationalize its behavior in order to reduce the stress from cognitive dissonance.
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I agree, and I think it's related to the troll phenom. Some people earlier today were analyzing the trolls and concluding that they were disruptive because they resent our conversations. I think it's a little deeper than that - I think they wish they could be included in a group of like-minded people, but know they lack the skills, whether those are of the thinking or social, or both, kinds. So by disrupting the conversations of people like we here, they get some sort of validation of their personal power, and an illustration of our vulnerability to them. Pretty reinforcing for them, I guess.
Okay. I am one thousand three hundred and twenty-two yrs old. I am fucking deeply weary of being politically correct. I do the best I can and wish the best to every-fucking-body.
But, please, folks, get over the hypersentivevity.
Sarah
Folks were just snarkin' on Mary Cheney's made up outrage (I hope that's what you're referring to...?)
"One day the History Channel will be able to tell the whole story.
Uncle Smokes"
You've completely omitted the Rand Corporation's role in the conspiracy.
Pshaw, I say. PSHAW.
Mostly just wacko people misinterpeting the obvious.
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agave, spreading confusion
Still love to see an explanation of the Marfa Lights, though. It's been over a hundred years, and still no idea. Or rather lots of ideas, but none make sense. Head and tail lights through a permanent temperature inversion layer? Not in 1900, they weren't...
Put down the box of wine and take a deep breath.
Truth | 07.09.06 - 12:34 am | #
It was Terry C who had the box of wine, remember?
I know sexual hatred is making you a bit overwrought, but please do try to focus.
i think las cruces is closer to the trinity site than roswell is.
it isn't really very near the trinity site.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
It was close enough to that site that the UFO was able to coast and crash after being struck by that lightening bolt but the government isn't saying...
yeah, it's ok. i was just referring to the way the ufo stuff is hyped. i guess it's like being the beet capital in the midwest or something--i imagine a bunch of people there got together and said, "hey, we might as well make a few bucks out of this, as long as people are coming here anyway."
pretzelattack
Roswell?
Right.
Biggest bunch of BS ever.
.
"you're an idiot"
So are you. What is the nature of your grief?
Roswell is where Robert Goddard did some of his experiments (and no I don't believe in "UFOs").
It was Terry C who had the box of wine, remember?
She could shared.... grumble....grumble...grumble....
but please do try to focus.
Phila | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:35 am | #
was this for me?
i think las cruces is closer to the trinity site than roswell is.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista! | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:36 am | #
Quite a bit closer.
No vehicle or entity from an alien world has ever visited Earth. It's total and complete horseshit.
Ah, Robert Goddard.
There's a park named after him in Auburn, Massachusetts.
Interesting, if true.
You've completely omitted the Rand Corporation's role in the conspiracy.
Not to mention the Queen of England's heroin pushing operation.
No vehicle or entity from an alien world has ever visited Earth. It's total and complete horseshit.
WalterNeff,
Oh, and I suppose you deny Scientology as well?
Ah, Robert Goddard.
Lots of stuff at Clark University in Worcester, Mass, about him.
It was close enough to that site that the UFO was able to coast and crash after being struck by that lightening bolt but the government isn't saying...
Ô¿Ô, Heartland Incog | 07.09.06 - 12:36 am | #
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well i wouldn't know about that. there is a lot of stuff about my beloved adopted state which is interesting. come to new mexico. the place is fascinating even without ufos.
sprites, or why UFO sightings may just be people seeing something they don't recognize.
http://sky-fire.tv/index.cgi/Pic...es/
sprite28.jpg
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/science/...4/
8412sci1.html
the thing about trolls and thinking skills and social skills--all they have to do is go to LGF or Townhall or whatever, and they could get that social group. it has to be a relatively small percentage that come hang out here, for whatever reason. i have trouble believing they are paid to do it--it seems like they could do more constructive things like political dirty tricks etc. that would benefit the GOP in more direct ways.
"Oh, and I suppose you deny Scientology as well?
DemByDefault"
All of it except Xenu.
That part is real.
Well, that and the midichlorians.
Even though those were from Star Wars.
No vehicle or entity from an alien world has ever visited Earth. It's total and complete horseshit.
WalterNeff, Out of the Will
How do you know? Were you there? Huh?
Marfa Lights
[perks up from lurking]
One day the History Channel will be able to tell the whole story.
Uncle Smokes
You've completely omitted the Rand Corporation's role in the conspiracy.
Pshaw, I say. PSHAW.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
I was warned not to say that! The men in black said they would kill me if I told the truth about...
[REST OF COMMENT DELETED IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY.]
Well, that and the midichlorians.
Even though those were from Star Wars.
After seeing the Holiday Special today, I don't know what to believe.
No vehicle or entity from an alien world has ever visited Earth. It's total and complete horseshit.
Then how do you explain Jean Scmidt?
This is quite enjoyable. Ann Coulter hung up on by Adam Carolla.
So there's ONE time I didn't find him annoying.
Attaturk |
Anne Coulter is the village idiot of nowhereville.
Well, that and the midichlorians.
Even though those were from Star Wars.
After seeing the Holiday Special today, I don't know what to believe.
Jay C.
We are all the progeny of Xenu and Bea Arthur.
"Then how do you explain Jean Scmidt?
Thers, Extant "
Swamp gas. DUH.
Robert Goddard helped the nazis.
How do you know? Were you there? Huh?
Ô¿Ô, Heartland Incog | 07.09.06 - 12:39 am | #
I hope you're parodying typical creationist counterarguments, rather than resorting to them.
roswell is a podunk town in the pecos valley. if people think ufos landed there, they aren't going to argue.
http://sky-fire.tv/index.cgi/Pic...es/ sprite28.jpg
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/science/...4/ 8412sci1.html
Doug, | 07.09.06 - 12:38 am | #
more of doug's "Portfolio".
This is quite enjoyable. Ann Coulter hung up on by Adam Carolla.
So there's ONE time I didn't find him annoying.
Attaturk |
Anne Coulter is the village idiot of nowhereville.
Mr.Murder
I saw that on a dead thread earlier....is that on Attaturk's page?
Robert Goddard helped the nazis.
On which side of the Atlantic?
Ah, Robert Goddard
Werner von Braun, the creator of the Saturn V rocket, drew heavily early in his career from Goddard's work.
He probably had a poster of him somewhere in his bedroom.
All of it except Xenu.
That part is real.
Check out Xenu's transportation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ima...space_plane.jpg
But, Christ on steroids, can we stop killing one another over this crap???
Sarah Deere
Sadly, I think we're still a pretty tribal species. Even if we got past killing each other over the stuff you list, we'd just find some other bogus "differences".
One day the History Channel will be able to tell the whole story.
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With appropriate music, no doubt. Some more Wagner?
Still love to see an explanation of the Marfa Lights, though. It's been over a hundred years, and still no idea. Or rather lots of ideas, but none make sense. Head and tail lights through a permanent temperature inversion layer? Not in 1900, they weren't...
Elmer, PHD
Read about those. 1900, really?
Link for that?
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Cspan 2 has a nutjob on who just crawled out of his mother's basement.
when I smoked, Marfa Lights were my brand. God I miss it.
fuck cowbells. bring on youtube(s).
roswell is practically in texas.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
Growing up in Lubbock, Texas, before I ever got off on the UFO thing, I associated Roswell with tornados, as the old-school radar would show the threatening storms, a menacing glowing mass of green, approaching from Roswell.
Coincidence?!
i smoke marfa non filters
On which side of the Atlantic?
Both. The Nazis wouldn't have been able to build what they did when they did without Goddard's trailblazing, & the early NASA rockets relied on the German scientists.
Still love to see an explanation of the Marfa Lights, though. It's been over a hundred years, and still no idea. Or rather lots of ideas, but none make sense. Head and tail lights through a permanent temperature inversion layer? Not in 1900, they weren't...
Elmer, PHD
Do you know William Corliss's Sourcebook Project? A great series of books listing anomalies of weather, seismology, etc. Kind of like a science-based Charles Fort.
Then how do you explain Jean Scmidt?
Thers, Extant
Or Ann Coulter?
"Then how do you explain Jean Scmidt?"
A flatulent racoon.
marfa lights. ne'er seen em.
roswell is a podunk town in the pecos valley
that's BS, go to roswell and they will sell you a t-shirt$ if you want it, I have worked there several times, and if you think all those people in that town believe in ufos you are crazier than they are.
Cspan 2 has a nutjob on who just crawled out of his mother's basement.
spinoza | 07.09.06 - 12:42 am | #
One of our trolls hit the big time!
No vehicle or entity from an alien world has ever visited Earth. It's total and complete horseshit.
WalterNeff, Out of the Will
Oh come on. Xenu's DC-9 landed in California, or somewhere.
The Phoenix lights were wierd, but I think were just flares.
And some the stories, not believable.
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"Bush's border plan for National Guard hits snag: Deployments are running behind schedule..."
Who'd a thunk it? After six years of Stuttgartian precision....
roswell is a podunk town in the pecos valley
that's BS, go to roswell and they will sell you a t-shirt$ if you want it, I have worked there several times, and if you think all those people in that town believe in ufos you are crazier than they are.
uh, hes saying thats why they will sell you the t shirt, and be happy to take you on a grand tour of the weather balloon crash site.
Corliss Sourcebooks.
The ones on geophysics are especially fascinating.
Just now getting dark outside. There are some things about this place that are truly magical.
A flatulent racoon.
Snow, Deposing Kos
That is JUST a theory!
.
Well, I can safely say that "Pirates of the Caribbean" made my ass numb.
uh, hes saying thats why they will sell you the t shirt, and be happy to take you on a grand tour of the weather balloon crash site.
pretzelattack
What about the big martian octopus from that Will Smith Judd Hirsch documentary from a few years back? That thing was cool!!
I have a pretty open mind about all of it except 'channeling.'
Just now getting dark outside. There are some things about this place that are truly magical.
mena
Hmmm
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Well, I can safely say that "Pirates of the Caribbean" made my ass numb.
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That good?!?
The Nazis wouldn't have been able to build what they did when they did without Goddard's trailblazing, & the early NASA rockets relied on the German scientists.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Good old Project Paperclip, an excellent whetstone for honing any conspiracy theory.
uh, hes saying thats why they will sell you the t shirt, and be happy to take you on a grand tour of the weather balloon crash site.
[thanxx , i spose, for your interpolation]
and take will take your $$ too!
What about the big martian octopus from that Will Smith Judd Hirsch documentary from a few years back? That thing was cool!!
DemByDefault | 07.09.06 - 12:48 am | #
wow i didnt know that was a documentary! the men in black probly made em pretend it was just a movie.
That good?!?
Way too long.
Well, I can safely say that "Pirates of the Caribbean" made my ass numb.
watertiger
Mind numb or buttocks numb, or both?
What about the big martian octopus from that Will Smith Judd Hirsch documentary from a few years back? That thing was cool!!
DemByDefault | 07.09.06 - 12:48 am | #
Man...I saw that for the first time the other day. What a completely fucking worthless piece of shit that was.
i remember watching the x files one time. they were supposedly in roswell, new mexico, and it was a weird little desert town. i was surprised when i went to roswell and found a fairly prosperous town in a fairly lush (by new mexico standards) river valley.
Mind numb or buttocks numb, or both?
more ass numb than mind numb, although some might argue that in my case, they're one and the same.
the men in black probly made em pretend it was just a movie.
pretzelattack |
See! Ya gotta think these things all the way through, man.
My Space chums told me they went to Roswell first, but you couldn't get a decent kielbasa, so they went to Chicago instead
wt - guess I can wait for the dvd. Although it would be nice to get excited about going to the movies. *sigh*
yeah, and paris texas is in a desert too. i saw it in a movie.
i saw it in a movie.
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 12:52 am | #
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Nuh uh.
My Space chums told me they went to Roswell first, but you couldn't get a decent kielbasa, so they went to Chicago instead
Lily | 07.09.06 - 12:51 am | #
they probably didnt have that Sambo's back in 1947. pancakes and fake maple syrup at 3 am--and im sure they wouldve served the aliens--they served anybody!
more ass numb than mind numb, although some might argue that in my case, they're one and the same.
watertiger
Good Lord I wouldn't. Your blog, and especially your captions fucking slay me.
ok i have had a few, ok more than enough drinks [hey i aint driving ok?], and on dial up is hard to refresh the screen quickly.
Roswell was cool, I went to the bars I could find..normal, small town, people were cool...no 'truth detectors' in their heads...ooo wait that was the other moonbat limpbulb..
The one UFOlogist guy I kind of like is John Keel. A terrible writer, and a dreadful misogynist...but his theory that paranormal events are part of a conspiracy on the part of alien intelligence to keep people stupid and scared is hard not to admire.
Max,
You're too kind, sir!
Mena,
let's just say that A.O. Scott pretty much nailed it.
Night of the Bouillabaise.
Wait are you saying that Ann Coulter's UFO landed on a raccoon in the Pecos Valley and made it flatulent?
Nuh uh.
mena | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:53 am | #
it's true--the opening scene from Paris Texas where harry dean stanton wanders out of this raging inferno of a desert.
I was a bit surprised to see the Pirate movie broke all box office records, but I still haven't seen the first one.
Man...I saw that for the first time the other day. What a completely fucking worthless piece of shit that was.
What, Independence Day? That was a great movie -- I hadn't known before I saw it that you can use a PowerBook to write a computer virus capable of completely destroying an alien civilization's technology.
Besides, John Keel's beard is strange enough to almost believe he himself is an alien.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keel
"That is JUST a theory!"
DON'T MOCK THE EVIDENCE, MOTHERFUCKER!!!
Are you suggesting Ann Coulter is more substantive than ass gas?
gah.
Night of the Living Bouillabaise.
and for anyone who wants to argue whether roswell is a podunk town or a fairly prosperous town (i referred to it as both). in new mexico, a podunk town is considered pretty prosperous.
but his theory that paranormal events are part of a conspiracy on the part of alien intelligence to keep people stupid and scared is hard not to admire.
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Whatever it is that's doing it is doing one hell of a job, wouldn't yousay?
but his theory that paranormal events are part of a conspiracy on the part of alien intelligence to keep people stupid and scared is hard not to admire.
WHen exactly did he train Karl Rove?
"I hadn't known before I saw it that you can use a PowerBook to write a computer virus capable of completely destroying an alien civilization's technology.
Thers, Extant "
Also, aliens use WiFi in a format that is exactly compatible with human PCs.
Crazy universe, ain't it.
and for anyone who wants to argue whether roswell is a podunk town or a fairly prosperous town (i referred to it as both). in new mexico, a podunk town is considered pretty prosperous.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista! | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 12:57 am | #
yeah, ever been to Cline's Corner?
a podunk town is considered pretty prosperous.
Roswell, has more than a gas station. There are a lot of places in the west that a pump is about all there is.
a bowl of cat soup anyone?
http://mfrost.typepad.com/
cute_o...ee_entresh.html
Also, aliens use WiFi in a format that is exactly compatible with human PCs.
Crazy universe, ain't it.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
So...the internets tubes came from Outer Space?
and they all laughed at poor Senator Stevens when he first proposed this theory.
Independence Day also showed how people of all different backgrounds and races and beliefs can come together to fight for justice, except the gays, who get incinerated. A very uplifting message for these dark times.
Roswell, has more than a gas station. There are a lot of places in the west that a pump is about all there is.
Doug, | 07.09.06 - 12:58 am | #
yeah, there was that sambo's, and the military school, and a holiday inn, and all sorts of other stuff.
Since I mentioned my hometown, I should also mention The Lubbock Lights.
Even when I was in prepubescent thrall to tales of lake monsters, Nostradamus, and all the wonderfull things contained in Reader's Digest Strange Stories, Amazing Facts, I thought the Lubbock Lights were bogus--or rather, UFOs in the pure sense of the term:
"Look at those objects! They're flying! I don't know what they are!"
By the way, that book really was so crammed with interesting nonsense. I'm still fascinated by The Faces of Belmez.
Plum P. did I miss your broadcast again?
except the gays, who get incinerated. A very uplifting message for these dark times.
Thers
You just go down to Radio Shack and pick up a Mac to Alien connector cable and Wham! the alien computer is toast!
I'm a founder member of the Roland Emmerich Depreciation Society, BTW.
Heartland Hal. here's a very special message just for you:
<Nelson Muntz>"HA-ha! You're a pathetic loser!"</Nelson Muntz>
Just a coincidence UFO sightings began occuring shortly after the first nuclear blasts on the planet? I think not...
My education would be proof of keeping people stupid, I mean, lol, that we were not educated heavily in the liberal arts..or history.
There are a lot of places in the west that a pump is about all there is.
I've dated women like that.
yeah, ever been to Cline's Corner?
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 12:58 am | #
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yes, i have. lots of antelope around there.
Also, aliens use WiFi in a format that is exactly compatible with human PCs.
And they say Jobs and Wozniak are human ...
Also, aliens use WiFi in a format that is exactly compatible with human PCs.
Eh, they just downloaded a patch.
Night of the Living Bouillabaise.
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Maybe I'll just wait for PotC III. Hell, XIIII even.
Just a coincidence UFO sightings began occuring shortly after the first nuclear blasts on the planet? I think not...
Ô¿Ô | 07.09.06 - 1:01 am | #
there were ufo sightings before that, i think.
Oh come on. Xenu's DC-9 landed in California, or somewhere.
It was a DC-8, blasphemer! How dare you try and ruin the credibility of that true to life incident?
Eeek! IMDB sez Emmerich is working on THREE new movies:
1. King Tut (2007) (announced)
2. One Nation (2006) (announced)
3. 10,000 B.C. (2007) (filming)
let me explain =), in junior high, we had a course, mandatory, to rebuild a lawn mower engine...power mechanics they called it..was really quite a joke.
For those of you who drive VW New Beetles should know that Roswell hosts one of the largest New Beetle car shows in the country.
OK
2 nites ago I lost it over my neighbors barking dogs. 1'st my impulse was to go over and pet them, which shuts them up for awhile, But he has a new one, chained up that can not come to the fence.
So I screamed! LOUD!
I used his name, first and last.
"Joe Schome! Joe Schome! Shut your Damn Dogs up! Shut them up NOW!! If not, civil action will follow!
SHUT YOUR FUCKING DAMN BARKING DOGS UP!!! I do not sleep at nite, I do not wake up to an alarm clock. I wake up to YOUR FUCKING BARKING DOGS!"
Silence so far.
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OK
2 nites ago I lost it over my neighbors barking dogs. 1'st my impulse was to go over and pet them, which shuts them up for awhile, But he has a new one, chained up that can not come to the fence.
So I screamed! LOUD!
I used his name, first and last.
"Joe Schome! Joe Schome! Shut your Damn Dogs up! Shut them up NOW!! If not, civil action will follow!
SHUT YOUR FUCKING DAMN BARKING DOGS UP!!! I do not sleep at nite, I do not wake up to an alarm clock. I wake up to YOUR FUCKING BARKING DOGS!"
Silence so far.
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I'm writing a science fiction screenplay, by the way, where Earth is invaded by evil aliens and we are only saved in the end by the Power of Tofu.
I call it... TOFU WAR FROM BEYOND TOMORROW!
It was a DC-8, blasphemer! How dare you try and ruin the credibility of that true to life incident?
Richard
Yeah, my bad. I realized it after I posted that I got the model plane wrong.
Roswell, has more than a gas station. There are a lot of places in the west that a pump is about all there is.
Doug, | 07.09.06 - 12:58 am | #
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on my way back from austin i stopped in willard, nm. i mentioned it to a friend of mine at work. he told me that jerry garcia was born in willard, nm. willard, nm isn't really a town. it's more of a gas station than a town.
The heroes of Independence Day included Randy Quaid, Bill Pullman, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Judd Hirsch, JEFF GOLDBLUM and Commander Data.
It's no wonder that it grossed 6 brazillion dollars.
How is that guzzi working out?
ALL DA-LEKS ARE EQUIPPED WITH BLUE-TOOTH AND WIFI.
EIGHT OH TWO ELEVEN GEE!
EIGHT! OH! ELEVENNN! GEEEEEEEEE!
ELEVENNNNNNN!!!! GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
"except the gays, who get incinerated."
I thought it was the psych patients who got incinerated.
cline's corner has a whole exit on interstate 40. willard is just a gas station on nm 60.
light, darkness, and motion
http://static.flickr.com/25/
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a smaller one if your monitor can't show the other.
http://static.flickr.com/25/
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There are a lot of places in the west that a pump is about all there is.
Doug
Wagontire, Oregon
Only thing there is a house/farm with a gas tank. If you are on a motorcycle, you are up shit creek if the guy won't sell you any. Fun times.
"Joe Schome! Joe Schome! Shut your Damn Dogs up! Shut them up NOW!! If not, civil action will follow!
A friend of mine has tried everything to get his neighbor to shut up his dogs including recording the barking and blasting it from huge speakers back at the guy's house. I don't understand why some people let their dogs be a nusance like that. Best way to shut up a dog is shake a large cardboard box at them every time they start barking for no reason.
I call it... TOFU WAR FROM BEYOND TOMORROW!
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What a coincidence. I've already started on the scripts for SON OF TOFU WARS, as well as BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TOFU WARS. Maybe we can work out a distribution deal.
Wagontire, Oregon
Wizard, Oregon, I like the name of that town, which isn't much more than a gas station and a barn that's falling down.
Plum P. did I miss your broadcast again?
Doug
i guess so, damn webmaster is on vacation. And i dedicated a whole bunch of songs for my Eschaton friends:
MOCO- military mile
(from Wigan near Manchester,their 2nd lp "twice bitten once shy". Sounds like Nick Cave mixed with the Whites Stripes)
PRIMAL SCREAM- when the bombs drop
(from new cd "riot city blues", more classic R&R à la "give up but don't give out")
HOPES OF THE STATES- bonfires
(from second lp "left". A very political album from these english men. Think heavier Elbow or Doves)
MASSIVE ATTACK - false flag
(another political b-side from M.A.)
My theme was "war and the 4th of July".
yeah, i was just amused by Clines Corners or Corner because you see signs for like 200 miles on the roads advertising it, and then when you get there there is a gas station and a gift shop selling all the typical new mexico tourist stuff, and i think a trailer--or at least thats the way it was.
How is that guzzi working out?
Doug, | 07.09.06 - 1:05 am | #
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i love it, but i haven't been riding it lately because i can't tell what the weather is going to be like. it has been raining like mad here almost every day for a couple of weeks. i could ride in the rain, but i don't really want to.
Best way to shut up a dog is shake a large cardboard box at them every time they start barking for no reason.
A nicer way, is to throw them something to chew that will take awhile. They are chained, up and bored, and so they bark.
A friend of mine did her linguistics thesis on that stuff: how we all put the "fucking" in the right place... People automatically know not to say "abfuckingsolutely"...
whiskeyina |
Let Bush wrap his tongue around that...
absofuckinglutely is the same as guaramantee you.
Johnny C. Lately |
Or edumacated?
Best way to shut up a dog is shake a large cardboard box at them every time they start barking for no reason.
Toby might tell you different.
Nice, Doug.
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Monsieur Dalek! I've got a song for you
http://youtube.com/watch?v=m8Nd-...rch=dalek%
20klf
Silence so far.
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agave, spreading confusion
Make up a nice batch of meatballs and add 2 drops of phenolphtalein to each one. No, not for the dogs - for the owner of the dogs.
After the SOB shits his liver out his asshole, tell him the dogs will get the next batch.
Nuisance barking dog owners are basically delusional. You cannot reason with them. PERIOD.
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yeah, ever been to Cline's Corner?
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 12:58 am | #
A great place to buy Jesus nightlights.
Here's Xenu's long lost brother, Xemnu...
http://www.miskatonic.freeserve....o.uk/
xemnu.html
Which reminds me, Wild At Heart is playing tonight down in Denver. To go or not to go....
Ugh. I wouldn't - I really passionately hated that movie.
On the other hand, Laura Dern jumping around in pointy heels and lingerie...
Eli |
This have anything to do with a man named Santos?
Keep in mind that the PowerBook in question was wielded by an MIT graduate.
"When you can place an MIT Campus Police car atop the Great Dome undetected, it will be time for you to leave."
http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_ye...OT-ap-
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yeah, i was just amused by Clines Corners or Corner because you see signs for like 200 miles on the roads advertising it, and then when you get there there is a gas station and a gift shop selling all the typical new mexico tourist stuff, and i think a trailer--or at least thats the way it was.
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 1:09 am | #
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that's the way it still is.
whoa i missed the jesus nightlights!!?? i gotta go back.
Some dogs bark for no reason without being bored. Sometimes they bark just to be the alpha dog. So scaring them a little reminds them they're not and actually calms them down knowing they don't have to be alpha with that stress.
"Best way to shut up a dog is shake a large cardboard box at them every time they start barking for no reason."
Toby has a different theory.
Just a coincidence UFO sightings began occuring shortly after the first nuclear blasts on the planet? I think not...
Ô¿Ô | 07.09.06 - 1:01 am | #
Surely you're not going to discount the rigorous work of Von Daniken? And what about the Dogon people? And the airships seen throughout America circa 1900?
Olaf, it was perfect cycle weather here today. 85-90
Best way to shut up a dog is shake a large cardboard box at them every time they start barking for no reason.
What if said barking dog then eats said cardboard box for no reason?
There's not much that can beat a glow-in-the-dark Jesus.
I've already started on the scripts for SON OF TOFU WARS, as well as BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TOFU WARS. Maybe we can work out a distribution deal.
Have your people call my people. We'll run it up the flagpole and see if anyone bites.
It's sorta like how an alpha dog will run up to the beta dog that barks and grabs its neck with its fangs and growls.
They are chained, up and bored, and so they bark.
Doug,
Bullshit! The woman across the street from me has 3 fucking yappy poodles that bark at every pedestrian as they go by. They go off like someone's tearing their eyeballs out of their heads!
They ever bark at the neighbor next to them when she dares walk out of her house.
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Ugh. I wouldn't - I really passionately hated that movie.
Megadittoes.
The best way to not have a a barking dog is to have a clue what having a 'pet' is all about. Don't throw your problem out in the backyard.
Morons
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Eeek! IMDB sez Emmerich is working on THREE new movies:
1. King Tut (2007) (announced)
2. One Nation (2006) (announced)
3. 10,000 B.C. (2007) (filming)
The Old Man From Scene 24
Is this a remake of One Million Years B.C., with a more creationist-acceptable title?
[Back in the day, the poster of Raquel Welch in those tattered rags was a popular item for sale in the back of my issues of Famous Monsters of Filmland--along with Vampirella, of course. Oof!]
you can get a pretty good bowl of green chili stew in cline's corners. not great, but pretty good.
There's not much that can beat a glow-in-the-dark Jesus.
You light up my life.
Surely you're not going to discount the rigorous work of Von Daniken? And what about the Dogon people? And the airships seen throughout America circa 1900?
Phila
That's just goes without saying like those mysterious landing strips you can only see from the sky in South America.
Monsieur Dalek! I've got a song for you
HAAAAAAAAR!
THE CAVE-DA-LEKS WERE NOT FUNNY THOUGH. YOU WILL BE HEAR-ING FROM THE DA-LEK LAWYERS!
THE DOC-TOR IS THE ENEMY OF THE DALEKS!
EXTERMINATE! ANNHILATE! DESTROY!
TOFU WARS,
kinda like the tofu wars of milagro mebbe?
Don't throw your problem out in the backyard.
Word. Is "word" still a happenin' word?
Don't throw your problem out in the backyard.
My dogs are sleeping below my desk.
I learned that from Dog Wisperer, by the way....
for some reason, poodles tend to think, despite all the painted toenails and and shaved rumps and precious little monogrammed sweaters, that they are in fact alpha dogs.
Have your people call my people. We'll run it up the flagpole and see if anyone bites.
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Cool. We'll do lunch. Ciao, baby.
Is this a remake of One Million Years B.C., with a more creationist-acceptable title?
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700 Years BC?
I saw Jarecki's "Why We Fight" on DVD this week, and I give it five out of five stars, for two reasons: 1) It's based almost entirely on fascinating archival film, and 2) Neocons Kristol, Adelman, Perle get their say too. I can disagree with the political/policy implications of a doc, yet still praise it. And I hope viewers will apply their own knowledge of history and reason while evaluating it.
[I've got DVD vols 1 and 4 of Capra's "Why We Fight" on the way from Netflix, for comparison.]
Here's one criticism: A central focus of this doc is Ike's farewell speech about the military-industrial-complex [MIC,] and a major implication of the doc is that the USA would fight fewer wars, but for the economic pressure of the MIC. There's too much of a tendency to paint Ike as some kind of pacifist or disarmer, without much reflection upon the facts that, under Ike's administration:
1) The hydrogen bomb was perfected.
2) Strategic Air Command was born.
3) Nuclear naval propulsion was perfected.
4) The SLBM (Polaris) was born.
5) Several ABM systems were developed, including Honest John, Nike, and Nike-X.
6) Soviet atomic spies were found, and some executed.
7) Other nuclear modalities (such as nuke artillery and nuke-rocket-propulsion,) were explored.
Eight) Many dozens of nuke fission-weapon tests were conducted: above-ground, below-ground, submarine, exo-atmospheric, etc.
Despite Ike's faux-pacifist farewell warning, the record of the 1950's shows that Ike's America [prudently!] aggressively pursued superior armaments at every scale, and at substantial cost.
Here's another criticism: Jarecki's chosen CIA-turncoat talks about "blowback," and a 1954-era document is produced which includes the term "blowback" with respect to the CIA's toppling of Iran's Mossadegh. The viewer is left with the implication that 9-11 was "blowback" from America's meddling. We're expected to believe that all attacks against America [Iranian hostage-taking, Beirut Marine-barracks bombing, Khobar Towers bombing, USS Cole attack, 9-11 attack, etc.] were generated by America's interference.
But we know, from overwhelming evidence, that the enemies of the USA hate freedom, licentiousness, and the export of "perverse" culture. How else to explain the motives of the recently-busted jihadis in Toronto? I've visited Toronto twice, and it's my favorite big city precisely because of its multicultural, supremely-open, anything-goes ethic. What we love, the jihadis hate!
So, please, when you watch the excellent "Why We Fight," do not leave behind your knowledge of history, and do not discount your common sense.
Word. Is "word" still a happenin' word?
Max Planck |
No, but I use it out of laziness.
Is it true that you can use a cardboard box to stop dogs from barking? What is it about the box that stops them?
Agave; Google'll give you about 32,000 hits for thr Marfa lights, most of the ones I've been to say the Marfa lights have been seen for over a century, and one--I forget which, 'cause it was a couple years ago--said one of the "explanations" was that we were seeing the lights reflected from a freeway somewhere. Sounded sensible, till I read the bit about them being a century old...
You light up my life.
Steve French | 07.09.06 - 1:16 am | #
heh--i can see it now as a youtube video, with debbie (debby?) boone singing her heart out to a nightlite jesus.
That's just goes without saying like those mysterious landing strips you can only see from the sky in South America.
Ô¿Ô | 07.09.06 - 1:16 am | #
That's why I like Keel's theory...it ties everything together into a sort of interdimensional college prank. Kind of like putting a fake treasure map in a bottle and leaving it at the water's edge on a crowded beach.
So, please, when you watch the excellent "Why We Fight," do not leave behind your knowledge of history, and do not discount your common sense.
Ok!
EXTERMINATE! ANNHILATE! DESTROY!
Freedom Dalek
here you go again overreacting...
kinda like the tofu wars of milagro mebbe?
The Milagro Tofu Field Wars?
I cannot imagine what Gregory Peck would sound like talking about tofu.
So, please, when you watch the excellent "Why We Fight," do not leave behind your knowledge of history, and do not discount your common sense.
You're no fun anymore!
you have to understand that for a long time, a couple of generations at least, the entire economy of new mexico was based on getting people who were driving to california to stop and buy something.
They ever bark at the neighbor next to them when she dares walk out of her house.
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Agent Orange
Like the fucking pit bulls across the street in ABQ.
I damn near killed them one nite, drunk and stupid, and the Cuban drug dealer that owned them damn near killed me, later.
Major scars
I love dogs. We want a Lab puppy.
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I cannot imagine what Gregory Peck would sound like talking about tofu.
maybe tom cruise?
Which reminds me, Wild At Heart is playing tonight down in Denver. To go or not to go....
Blah!
I forgot that Von Daniken wrote Chariots of the Gods. So another example would be that remote tribal village in Africa who knew nothing about aliens or spaceships drawing pictures of them after an encounter.
What if said barking dog then eats said cardboard box for no reason?
Max Planck
You start saving money on dog food?
I love dogs. We want a Lab puppy.
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agave
Oh, they're super cute. Also pretty hyper, but worth it.
I cannot imagine what Gregory Peck would sound like talking about tofu.
maybe tom cruise?
I would like to hear the actual voice of Live Free or Die, who will of course be the sacrificial black man to die first.
Bah, why did I say Gregory Peck.
Ok, my cat just brought me his cat toy and he's howling at me about it.
Good lord.
the entire economy of new mexico was based on getting people who were driving to california to stop and buy something.
Truckstop. It was.
I've visited Toronto twice, and it's my favorite big city precisely because of its multicultural, supremely-open, anything-goes ethic.
NO FLIRTING.
We want a Lab puppy.
Great, but energetic dogs, especially when puppies. Are you willing to play with it for a couple of years? This is about how long it takes labs to grow up.
yeah, route 66!
So another example would be that remote tribal village in Africa who knew nothing about aliens or spaceships drawing pictures of them after an encounter.
Ô¿Ô | 07.09.06 - 1:22 am | #
The Dogon.
I forgot that Von Daniken wrote Chariots of the Gods. So another example would be that remote tribal village in Africa who knew nothing about aliens or spaceships drawing pictures of them after an encounter.
Ô¿Ô
And the spaceships painted on the church in...Czekoslovakia?...in 1250 or so.
you have to understand that for a long time, a couple of generations at least, the entire economy of new mexico was based on getting people who were driving to california to stop and buy something.
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Thus - Truth or Consequences, NM, a game show fewer and fewer people have ever heard of? Maybe they could change it to The Real World, NM? Or Survivor, NM?
Elmer, PHD
It's one of the most interesting ones.
Vacation plan?
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ENJOY!
NYT: David Brooks on 'liberal inquisition' of Lieberman; Many Dems fear, 'despise' netroots
Two Sundays after taking on the founder of Daily Kos, David Brooks, a conservative columnist for The New York Times, lashes out at the netroots and many on the left for participating in a "liberal inquisition" of Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman, RAW STORY has found.
Brooks' latest column set for Sunday's Times also suggests that many Democrats silenty fear and "despise" the netroots movement.
To Brooks, Lieberman represents one of a few "heterodox politicians who distrust ideological purity, who rebel against movement groupthink, who believe in bipartisanship both as a matter of principle and as a practical necessity," offering former Mayor Giuliani and Senators McCain and Clinton as examples.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/
200...ition_0708.html
So after travelling 10s or 100s of light-years across interstellar space 'ancient astronauts' need landing strips to reach the ground and come to a stop.
Let's say I'm skeptical. The Marines can do it with a V-22 Osprey.
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The Dog Wisperer didn't come up with the large cardboard box method. I did. I think it makes you the alpha male by making you appear large and in charge when you shake it and bang on it at them.
yeah, route 66!
pretzelattack
Been there
We want a Lab puppy.
Great, but energetic dogs, especially when puppies. Are you willing to play with it for a couple of years? This is about how long it takes labs to grow up.
Doug,
this is true. Ours was quite puppyish for several years. She even flunked puppy kindergarden.
I never took Eisenhower's Farewell Address as a statement of pacifism. I took it as a warning from a man who knew how out of control the military can get. As he said in a 1956 letter to Everett E. Hazlett:
"Some day there is going to be a man sitting in my present chair who has not been raised in the military services and who will have little understanding of where slashes in their estimates can be made with little or no damage. If that should happen while we still have the state of tension that now exists in the world, I shudder to think of what could happen in this country."
Then, there's the quotation from Newsweek, Nov. 11, 1963, about the atomic bombing of Japan:
"I was against it on two counts. First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon."
Not pacifism, but pragmatism and a deep sense of honor quite rare in our present public officials...
""In the 1930s, the Spanish Civil War served as a precursor to the global conflict that was World War II," Brooks writes. "And in a smaller fashion, the primary battle playing out on the smiling lawns of upscale Connecticut serves as a preview for the national conflict that will dominate American politics for the next two years."
"What's happening to Lieberman can only be described as a liberal inquisition," writes Brooks. "Whether you agree with him or not, he is transparently the most kind-hearted and well-intentioned of men. But over the past few years he has been subjected to a vituperation campaign that only experts in moral manias and mob psychology are really fit to explain."
I would like to hear the actual voice of Live Free or Die, who will of course be the sacrificial black man to die first.
Ya lost me with the sacrifice thing...
"the entire economy of new mexico was based on getting people who were driving to california to stop and buy something.
Truckstop. It was."
That's an insulting and insenstive comment to make from a Native American's perspective.
Let's say I'm skeptical. The Marines can do it with a V-22 Osprey.
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Agent Orange | 07.09.06 - 1:26 am | #
It's all very silly.
So after travelling 10s or 100s of light-years across interstellar space 'ancient astronauts' need landing strips to reach the ground and come to a stop.
you shoulda seen 'em before they invented landing strips! they'd just come in and keep bumping along the ground till they ran into a tree or a mountain or something.
And NTodd does not fix airplanes..
"Kufr" is clearly the worst kind of lgffer; the guy's very name is an example of their darling custom of proudly adopting suposedly persecuted status they hope will piss off Moosalums. He expects some kind of credit for, as he keeps reminding, his praising of the film. What is perhaps saddest and most salient is that in his comment we get to see into the real mind of a troll, not just the hysterical dalek shrieking intended to get a rise out of decent people. Here we have a film that presents a good case for several ideas, an object lesson in leftist commitment to the significance of truth and rational persuasion, and like the neoke dreckgolem quoted in the film our boy poor persecuted white man here hurls against it various unconnected facts. A perfect contrast to any sort of commitment to truth and persuasion. Did you know that people recall the 50s as sexually repressive, and yet during the fifties people actually had sex? There are lots of movies of people walking during that period -- and yet, many owned cars!
I would like to hear the actual voice of Live Free or Die, who will of course be the sacrificial black man to die first.
He tried to warn us... why didn'twe listen!
yeah, route 66!
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i actually live on route 66. central ave in albuqueque. i think i might go to eschaton ii by riding on old 66 on my guzzi. it started in chicago, didn't it?
WOW! They fear us! (i'm dying of laughters here)
"Because in my conversations --we're talking about the netsroots [sic], who are the real problems for Lieberman, people generated by the Daily Kos and other web sites-- I find privately most of the Democrats despise those people because of the way they practice politics so viciously that they don't want to get in the crosshairs," said Brooks, according to a transcript in a Daily Kos diary.
"And they don't want to offend the liberal base of primary voters," Brooks added. "So they want to support Joe Lieberman, but they don't want to get in the crosshairs. So a few have come out, Barbara Boxer, Joe Biden, couple others have come out strongly for him, others, Hillary Clinton has sort of been on both sides, others just won't commit."
I cannot imagine what Gregory Peck would sound like talking about tofu.
maybe tom cruise?
To steal from vintage SNL, Gregory Peck had chuncks of guys like Tom Cruise in his stool. I tell you, his stern Atticus Finch character is my personal blueprint of a proper male United States President.
"Some day there is going to be a man sitting in my present chair who has not been raised in the military services and who will have little understanding of where slashes in their estimates can be made with little or no damage. If that should happen while we still have the state of tension that now exists in the world, I shudder to think of what could happen in this country."
"Whether you agree with him or not, he is transparently the most kind-hearted and well-intentioned of men. But over the past few years he has been subjected to a vituperation campaign that only experts in moral manias and mob psychology are really fit to explain."
Plum P,mlle canadian catmunist | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 1:27 am | #
Love him or hate him, ya gotta love him!
another concern troll. oh well, they take up less space than the spam trolls.
"Some day there is going to be a man sitting in my present chair who has not been raised in the military services and who will have little understanding of where slashes in their estimates can be made with little or no damage. If that should happen while we still have the state of tension that now exists in the world, I shudder to think of what could happen in this country."
Are you referring to Clinton?
you shoulda seen 'em before they invented landing strips! they'd just come in and keep bumping along the ground till they ran into a tree or a mountain or something.
pretzelattack
Buck Rogers was pretty good at that except the sparks falling out of the back of the rocket engine kept setting the woods on fire.
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What do you call a troll that talks to itself?
I thought Route 66 started in St Louis?
I read that you put some pebbles in a coke can and shake it.
Bottom line. NOT my dog, NOT my job.
SHUT YOUR DAMN DOG UP!
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We loved Clinton's military -- all the complaints were bogus propaganda by fat and safe Limbaugh fans. As opposed to being in Bush's military, where the complaining was there but you had to be Soviet about it, all in secret.
it started in chicago, didn't it?
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista! | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 1:28 am | #
i dont remember offhand--i think there are still route 66 fan clubs that go into the history and drive as much of it as possible.
i actually live on route 66. central ave in albuqueque. i think i might go to eschaton ii by riding on old 66 on my guzzi. it started in chicago, didn't it?
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista! | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 1:28 am | #
Yep. Not much of it left, though. I think the stretch near Seligmann is the longest...
Not pacifism, but pragmatism and a deep sense of honor quite rare in our present public officials...
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Uncle Smokes - damn. Just, damn.
What do you call a troll that talks to itself?
Doug
Toby?
I belatedly apologize, Duncan, for what the Red Sox did to your team last month.
Hey, wanna see a kewl photo montage of George Bush? I was thinking of George C. Scott's speech in the last minute of Patton and realized the comic possibilities.
"What's happening to Lieberman can only be described as a liberal inquisition," writes Brooks.
I never expected that.
Route 66 used to go from Chicago to LA.
Truckstop. It was."
That's an insulting and insenstive comment to make from a Native American's perspective.
oh please that's what the people in new mexico call it. If you are trying to call me insensitive then you have just called the new mexicans insensitive. Commerce. simple commerce.
Why you raggin on me?
Two Sundays after taking on the founder of Daily Kos, David Brooks, a conservative columnist for The New York Times, lashes out at the netroots and many on the left
Oh dear, a scolding from David Brooks. How alarming. I am very frightened. Eeeek, I say. Eeeeek.
I'm off to bed to rest up for this verbal pummeling by one of the finest minds and greatest thinkers of this, or indeed any, generation. With all the intellectual firepower at his command we stand no chance. My advice is to surrender forthwith.
That's just goes without saying like those mysterious landing strips you can only see from the sky in South America.
James Randi has a great chapter on Von Daniken's crap in his book "Flim-Flam". It's called "Paper Chariots in Flames". Amongst other things, one of those "landing strips" was actually a giant stylelized drawing of a bird that Von Daniken had cropped in his book.
Uncle Smokes, that was a very good post!
One of the antiwar interviewees in Jarecki's "Why We Fight" also made the claim that the Japanese were aching to surrender early in 1945.
I doubt it, but can somebody post a link to info that substantiates this?
WE ARE ALL LIBERAL INQUISITORS
and proud of it!
Route 66 site.
http://www.historic66.com/
http://home.no.net/chiubi/images...images/
shit.JPG
Want to see another pic in my "portfolio"?
I thought Route 66 started in St Louis?
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i think it went from chicago to la, but i could be wrong. i'm pretty sure it wrent through st louis though.
"What's happening to Lieberman can only be described as a liberal inquisition," writes Brooks.
I never expected that.
Steve French
Has Brooks always been out of his fucking mind or am I just a slow learner?
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I doubt it, but can somebody post a link to info that substantiates this?
kufr | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 1:33 am | #
Are you too fucking lazy to find one yourself?
My advice is to surrender forthwith.
Thers
bonne nuit Thers
Surely you're not going to discount the rigorous work of Von Daniken? And what about the Dogon people? And the airships seen throughout America circa 1900?
Phila
UFO reports from the 1800s just read funny in modern times. They were either flying wooden spaceships back then, or people just tend to describe the indescribable in terms of things they really do know something about. My guess is the latter.
I'm off to bed to rest up for this verbal pummeling by one of the finest minds and greatest thinkers of this, or indeed any, generation
whom so do he spake?
I feel honored, I'm being name stolen.
Yep. Not much of it left, though. I think the stretch near Seligmann is the longest...
Phila | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 1:31 am | #
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from what i have heard it is all still there. it just isn't part of the federal highway system.
Ok, I stand corrected. It started in Chicago
Has Brooks always been out of his fucking mind or am I just a slow learner?
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Agent Orange
you're slpw. he's always been like that! But i am surprised that he's takink up fighting for rotten dems!
oh please that's what the people in new mexico call it. If you are trying to call me insensitive then you have just called the new mexicans insensitive. Commerce. simple commerce.
Why you raggin on me?
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i think it's a concern troll.
Truckstop. It was.
Why you raggin on me?
Because it's insulting to the Native Americans that called it home long before western expansion.
Has Brooks always been out of his fucking mind or am I just a slow learner?
My money is on Brooks being insane, he has a track record that confirms it.
you're slpw. he's always been like that! But i am surprised that he's takink up fighting for rotten dems!
I see another drinkr.
cheers!!
I see another drinkr.
cheers!!
nah, no drink...but a lot of pot!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Inuyasha?! Where the Vercingetorix-burnt Gaul is fucking Kauboi?!
from what i have heard it is all still there. it just isn't part of the federal highway system.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista! | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 1:35 am | #
A lot of it was incorporated into interstates.
Has Brooks always been out of his fucking mind or am I just a slow learner?
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My epiphany of earlier today revealed to me that they're all out of their minds. I can't tell you what a relief it was to grasp this profound and resonant truth. No thanks are necessary, I'm just happy to spread my understanding of the Truth. Check this space tomorrow for more insights.
But super milk chan will be on at 5, when everyone will have knocked off...
in terms of things they really do know something about. My guess is the latter.
Elmer, PHD
Early 20th Century UFOs descriptions looked a lot like dirigibles, no flying saucers just dirigibles.
A better example is descriptions of aliens by people claiming to be abducted. Somehow they always look like the aliens in the latest Earth vs Alien movie at the theaters. The 'Close Encounter' dudes seem to have become the standard 'look'.
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druggy cat
http://www.stuffonmycat.com/medi...60707-
ISAAC.jpg
nah, no drink...but a lot of pot!
thats kewl too
oh please that's what the people in new mexico call it. If you are trying to call me insensitive then you have just called the new mexicans insensitive. Commerce. simple commerce.
Why you raggin on me?
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on behalf of the people of new mexico, let me say that we have been called worse by better. now go back to texas before you get shot.
i think it went from chicago to la, but i could be wrong. i'm pretty sure it wrent through st louis though.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!
Don't forget to take a left in ABQ!
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A lot of it was incorporated into interstates.
Phila
A lot of the old Route 66 road bed is simply abandoned and kind of fun to explore. I think we're holding on to them to use as landing strips for aliens from outer space.
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Because it's insulting to the Native Americans that called it home long before western expansion.
Brook | 07.09.06 - 1:36 am | #
what a crock.
A lot of it was incorporated into interstates.
My uncle gave me a chunk of asphalt taken from 66 in missouri.
Yeah, I got my kicks.
SHUT YOUR DAMN DOG UP!
Some dogs just won't. My sister's dog is about 15 years old, has known me the whole time, and still starts a ruckus every time I come over. Sometimes, if I just walk back into the room. Does the same thing outside, if they let him out--though only to males, never barks at females. They love him, and treat him right, but he still barks. They can shut him up, but the next time he wants to sound off, he bloody well will, even if it's 15 seconds later. That's the biggest reason I have cats instead. That and the dogshit in the yard...
Goodnight, late folks. Seeyas.
on behalf of the people of new mexico, let me say that we have been called worse by better. now go back to texas before you get shot.
umm big and whatever, my relatives live there. I visit new mexico all the time.
"What's happening to Lieberman can only be described as a liberal inquisition," writes Brooks.
I never expected that.
Steve French
[DaaDUUUUNH!]
Noooobody expects the Liberal Inquisition! Our chief weapon is diversity! Diversity and equality, our two weapons are diversity, equality...and reason. Three weapons! Our three weapons are diversity, equality, reason, and an almost fanatical devotion to the progress of humanity. Four weapons! Um...amongst our weaponsry are such elements as diversity...look, I'll come in again....
bye Mena
Goodnight, late folks. Seeyas.
mena |
nighty night!
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besides Olaf, by your site your not even in America..
...look, I'll come in again....
Uncle Smokes
please do!
My epiphany of earlier today revealed to me that they're all out of their minds. I can't tell you what a relief it was to grasp this profound and resonant truth. No thanks are necessary
I've spent many hours trying desperately to understand their mental malfunction and never have so I'm going with this from now on. They're just nuts...
Good night, Mena. Kugs & Hisses!
G'night mena!
Um...amongst our weaponsry are such elements as diversity...look, I'll come in again....
Uncle Smokes |
And the most generalized weapon we have...progressive liberalism. It's who and what we are.
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A lot of the old Route 66 road bed is simply abandoned and kind of fun to explore.
IIRC, about 60-70 percent of the road is still drivable, in some form or another. I think I've done all of it as far as Tulsa.
I have a bunch of Route 66 books, being a passionate amateur odologist, but the one I really love is called "Along Route 66," which has pictures of (mostly) abandoned business and gives a brief biography of the people who started them. Very interesting in its own utterly mundane way.
The only legitimate explanation of UFOs is ours:
What is relevant, stunning, and totally indisputable is the vastness of the gulfs of space.
If an intelligence exists that can build an engine to span those gulfs, and they concern themselves with our speck, then when they get here, even spectating will not be an option. They will do with us whatever the fuck they want. All discussion about them is therefore less constructive than masturbation. You will die, get over it.
(Also, there is a very interesting author who describes a kind of cynical case for UFO lying based on very sensible grounds. We will detail this later as it is interesting.)
In general though, the UFO watchers are to the serious conspiracy theorist (the person who feels with the diaphanous Xymphora that the high and mighty should respect the same laws as the rest of us) what Superman-obsessed Trekkies are to literature professors. They are always the worst waste of time, if only because of their well established willingness to believe the fucking united states government! They will go on about a cover up at Roswell (seriously, if transgalactic transportation technology was available in the 1950s would it even fucking need to be disguised?! What are the chances that anyone would recognize it?!) and then turn around and happily thump some USAF disinfo like the same suits who were before infiltrated "grays" are now their best friends.
I've spent many hours trying desperately to understand their mental malfunction
they speak in reverse syntax..
Uncle Smokes,
kei & yuri, yow! I'm _recommending_ the film, giving details, and advising folks to view it critically. That makes me a lgf'er?
I saw the DVD with someone who _didn't_ watch it critically (i.e., they accepted as absolute truth every implication,) without considering the historical backdrop, like my eight bullet-points.
I watch ALL the lefty docs and DVDs. I don't suspend reason while watching them. I give credit where due, and try to comment intelligently.
Here's some more lefty DVDs I've enjoyed lately. See them all, please!
Harlan County, USA
The Wobblies
Syriana
Winter Soldier, 1972
The Agronomist
Good Night and Good Luck
Hearts and Minds
Oil on Ice
Death in Gaza (not necessarily lefty)
The Future of Food
Howard Zinn: You Can't ...
And many more. I'm a Bushite, but I'm an extremely open-minded Bushite!
I've spent many hours trying desperately to understand their mental malfunction and never have so I'm going with this from now on. They're just nuts...
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My explanation that I've touted here is great wealth, celebrity status and the knowledge that if you don't cooperate it can be taken from you in a heartbeat.
Norah O'Donnell lives a great life in DC. There's nothing that's gonna make her fuck that up.
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The Science Channel has been showing this creepy documentary on the Aztecs. Could the Aztecs have actually sacrificed 20,000 people in only four days, as the stories say? Yup. They have this doctor demonstrate that you could cut someone's heart out in only 20 seconds with a stone knife (they used a model torso of course). Indiana Jones-like, it would still be beating if you did it for real, according to the doctor.
I watch ALL the lefty docs and DVDs. I don't suspend reason while watching them.
and you shouldn't as they are all right produced.
umm big and whatever, my relatives live there. I visit new mexico all the time.
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you're ok then. i'm not actually from new mexico. i am a transplant from the east. i have the zeal that only a convert can have.
I'm a Bushite, but I'm an extremely open-minded Bushite!
How nice for you! That makes you...
stupid?
Writing during the Cold War, this author we mentioned said, look, why the hell would technologically competing superpowers with massive informational control infrastructure and a mutual interest in maintaining a certain nationalism admit to the existence of UFOs?
UFOs necessarily are:
-A new toy with new capabilities that neither you nor your competitor has. Here you are going on about how your wonderful gadgets will keep people safe, and here comes Gort making you look like a fool -- and your people feel unsafe.
-A possible ally for the other guy.
-An end to nationalism. Just as a clan becomes a tribe and tribes become a nation on meeting other larger organizational structures, so it is silly for Earthians to fight when confronted with whole other planets mobilized as such. We would be all equidistant from the extraterrestrial other.
There were a lot of other really interesting points like that.
umm big and whatever, my relatives live there. I visit new mexico all the time.
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I think of NM as my home and Melissa for real. But TX is a good place. Love the people here, can't say the same for the people I met in the north east.
Pffffttt. I despise New Englanders.
Full of themselves
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What's really scary about our alien visitors is their obsession only with our reproduction. They're not interested in human art or politics. Etc. Only in our reproduction which can only mean they're tampering with human DNA...
They won a game? Must have been a fluke...
meanwhile..
2006: The year of the Cut&Run
you shoulda seen 'em before they invented landing strips! they'd just come in and keep bumping along the ground till they ran into a tree or a mountain or something.
pretzelattack
On Flash Gordon, there always seemed to be a convienient flat spot right where they needed one. Good thing, too, because they flew those things standing up, with no seatbelts. Saved a ton on prop chairs, they did...
and what happened to the Anasazi anyway? alien abductions.
Only in our reproduction which can only mean they're tampering with human DNA...
Ô¿Ô
annoying innit?
i don't know what you mean about my website not being in the us. i post ther maybe twice a year anyway.
The only legitimate explanation of UFOs is ours:
You left out the well known galactic fixations of bovine genitalia and abducting Missippians who enjoy catfishing.
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Olaf is seixon
you're ok then. i'm not actually from new mexico. i am a transplant from the east. i have the zeal that only a convert can have.
Aye you had me for a minute...cheers! =)
My explanation that I've touted here is great wealth, celebrity status and the knowledge that if you don't cooperate it can be taken from you in a heartbeat.
Norah O'Donnell lives a great life in DC. There's nothing that's gonna make her fuck that up.
Sounds like an excellent theory to me.
Missippians = people from Mississippi
Has anybody in Pat Robertson's Pentecostal faith paused, for one minute, to reflect on the supremely puzzling concept that if defying God's Word causes the death of millions of innocent people, and that only understanding His Words is by speaking "in tongues", is kinda a bit of a scam?
Well, Kufr, given that healthy list of films, I can safely that the party of Bush wants nothing to do with you.
Wake up and smell the big RINO tent.
Jeez. Criterion is finally issuing Spirit of the Beehive. About fucking time!
is kinda a bit of a scam?
Max Planck
so when did you wake up?
Aye you had me for a minute...cheers! =)
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my parents and my grandparents and my great grandparents are all coloradans. i just happened to grow up on the east coast. my people were in colorado before it was a state. before it was even a territory.
so when did you wake up?
Plum P,mlle canadian catmunist
So when did you think I was asleep?
Only in our reproduction which can only mean they're tampering with human DNA...
Ô¿Ô
Thank heavens we'd never do anything like that.
kei & yuri, yow! I'm _recommending_ the film, giving details, and advising folks to view it critically. That makes me a lgf'er?
No, as we explained clearly, certain lgf behaviors make you an exemplary textbook lgffer (how are we supposed to get past the fucking name? Isn't a name kind of important?). And you are not getting a fucking cookie for backstabbing the freaking movie.
You know, we regularly re-watch Birth of a Nation, Triumph of the Will (looking to score some Olympiad as well), Battleship Potemkin, Aleksandr Nevski, Reefer Madness, that one crazy joint where a clearly stoned Sonny Bono is advising kids not to do pot, that excellent Mormon film about the mormon thought police... All great, all worth seeing for numerous reasons. And we don't show up hereabouts naming ourselves El Cid & Lionheart, expecting some kind of credit for a straightforward backstab review.
Jeez. Criterion is finally issuing Spirit of the Beehive. About fucking time!
Phila
Thanks for the tip, Phila. I've not heard of the film, but it looks interesting.
So when did you think I was asleep?
Max Planck
i havent seen here you in a while that's all
and what happened to the Anasazi anyway? alien abductions.
pretzelattack
drought?
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Thanks for the tip, Phila. I've not heard of the film, but it looks interesting.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 1:56 am | #
It's great...absolutely beautiful.
Could the Aztecs have actually sacrificed 20,000 people in only four days, as the stories say? Yup.
It helps that most were willing.
I'm from Mars, myself.
"Some day there is going to be a man sitting in my present chair who has not been raised in the military services and who will have little understanding of where slashes in their estimates can be made with little or no damage. If that should happen while we still have the state of tension that now exists in the world, I shudder to think of what could happen in this country."
Are you referring to Clinton?
It's OK when Cheney and Rumsfeld do it. That "Missle Shield" is so much more important.
i havent seen here you in a while that's all
Plum P,mlle canadian catmunist
Cool. I been around.
((shuffles foot in the dirt.))
alien abductions. thats my story and im sticking to it.
my people were in colorado before it was a state. before it was even a territory.
yes I lived in denver, beautiful state, I remember as a child going to see the pueblos
Um, kei & yuri, have you even SEEN the DVD?
alien abductions. thats my story and im sticking to it.
pretzelattack
If alien invasions aren't real, why is Bush sending soldiers to NM and AZ to stop them?
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That "Missle Shield" is so much more important.
You are in bad trouble, if you need ABM.
my people were in colorado before it was a state. before it was even a territory.
yes I lived in denver, beautiful state, I remember as a child going to see the pueblos
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pueblos?
NM?
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The Science Channel has been showing this creepy documentary on the Aztecs. Could the Aztecs have actually sacrificed 20,000 people in only four days, as the stories say?
Doubtful. Milwaukee Tools didn't invent the machine aword till 1950...
"great german, great author..."
Timmeh calls Mike Wallace a good German?
Wow...one of our trolls made it onto Overheard in New York:
Crazy guy, yelling: Macaroni and cheese! [No one responds.] With chocolate mousse on top! [No one responds.] Mashed potatoes and gravy! [No one responds.] George Bush is bringing peace to the world through strength and diplomacy!
Woman: Shut up!
--uptown 6 train
I'm guessing that kei & yuri, out of ignorance and bias, have adopted a reflexive, rigid, anti-reviewer analysis. I praised the DVD, made two mild criticisms, but kei & yuri come up with nothing but ad-hominem.
If Atrios had written the same review, kei & yuri would be falling all over themselves to praise it.
You are in bad trouble, if you need ABM.
Sergei Korolev
You are in bad trouble if you don't need a BM.
Another Eschaton troll on OINY:
Black woman: You know that girl you bumped into? She was handicapped. And you didn't say, "Excuse me."
White boy: Um, she bumped into me.
Black woman: So, she's handicapped. Is it her fault?
White boy: Shut the fuck up and go pick up your welfare check, you entitlement-addicted bitch.
kei & yuri HAVE NOT SEEN "Why We Fight," but they are willing to defend it against any and all praise [!] and criticism.
je dois aller dormir
bonne nuit à tous
ALLEZ LES BLEUS!
Which is why I recommend phyto tea.
If Atrios had written the same review, kei & yuri would be falling all over themselves to praise it.
kufr | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 2:04 am | #
Yeah...kei and yuri rubberstamp everything Atrios says, without fail.
Urgh.
It's too late for this passive-aggresive back-and-forth troll-baiting.
Good night, and ya'll take care of your good, liberally inquisitive selves!
Phila, you are a true apologist: just sorry about the whole damned thing.
I have to say, I like the idea of an "open-minded Bushite."
Wow...no sooner do I say "passive-aggressive troll-baiting," and look who shows up.
I'm sooooo outta here!
Yeah...kei and yuri rubberstamp everything Atrios says, without fail.
Phila
We are just like congressional republicans.
And on that note. I must away to my slumber.
Until tomorrow batses.
Whenever they do bring 'em home the new psyops squad will crank out several Oswalds and Sirhans to take care of the real emerging leaders...
That is deductive reasoning culled from past history.
My people aren't people but Soylent Green is MADE OF PEEOPLE!!!!!
Phila, you are a true apologist: just sorry about the whole damned thing.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 2:08 am | #
Huh?
"The Marfa lights"
Who originally posted that?
I have some questions, the same phenomena has occurred on a fifteen minute drive from here...
We are the guardians of DVD criticism. We are the labelers of the consumers of video culture. Content is subsequent to the viewer's frame, which is inferior to the liberal orthodoxy.
Praise us, comrades, we who fight against the expression of arguable observations! We sweep aside content in the service of doctrine.
Whenever they do bring 'em home the new psyops squad will crank out several Oswalds and Sirhans to take care of the real emerging leaders...
That is deductive reasoning culled from past history.
Mr.Murder
See this?
http://www.kctv5.com/Global/stor...y.asp?
S=5124415
Toby is blogging from an undisclosed dude ranch...
I'm beginning to think Toby isn't in this for the sport.
and what happened to the Anasazi anyway? alien abductions.
pretzelattack
Didn't Dean Ing write a story about how they were aliens? Or something like that. Back in the '80s.
yes I lived in denver, beautiful state, I remember as a child going to see the pueblos
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i don't really like colorado. it sucks these days.
Toby is blogging from an undisclosed dude ranch...
Mr.Murder | 07.09.06 - 2:13 am | #
I have no idea what he's talking about half the time. He left some cryptic message about "Fitzmas" on my blog a few weeks ago...now I'm supposedly an apologist 'cause I'm supposedly sorry about something or other.
BTW, I was for gun control before I was against it.
Gas pipeline begins in Venezuela
Venezuela and Colombia have begun work on an ambitious $200m (£108m) pipeline project which will see Venezuelan gas and oil reach Central America.
Mr Chavez described the pipeline as a strategically important route linking the Caribbean basin to the Pacific Ocean.
Venezuela is likely to extend the pipeline to the Pacific Ocean ports of Colombia and Panama.
Mr Chavez wants to pump oil and gas to the Pacific coast so it can then be shipped to East Asia. This would cut transport costs and time to the Asian markets.
Energy experts say Venezuela is looking to replace the United States as its number one customer with new partners in Asia because of longstanding diplomatic tensions with Washington.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/
5161968.stm
Link us the thread, Phila!
What thread?
I invented gun control laws.
Tobes comment, Phila
Tobes comment, Phila
Wyatt Earp | 07.09.06 - 2:17 am | #
Why would I bother doing that? Anyone who cares to read it can find it through Google just as quickly as I could. IIRC, he said "Merry Fitzmas," and I said "Huh?"
"The Marfa lights"
Who originally posted that?
That was me. Never seen 'em, myself, though they're right here in Texas. Miles and miles of miles and miles between them and me...
Here's a video
Energy experts say Venezuela is looking to replace the United States as its number one customer with new partners in Asia because of longstanding diplomatic tensions with Washington.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/ 5161968.stm
SK
God damn, fairly elected socialist dictator! We can't let him get away with that! Free market my ass! Let's go down there and bash him!
Elmer the same thing happens here. I want to know what kind of Natural Gas/Oil activity goes on in Martha and the surrounding counties. If it was east Texas I'd have already assumed as much...
The Marfa lights"
Who originally posted that?
I have some questions, the same phenomena has occurred on a fifteen minute drive from here...
Mr.Murder
Nothing but headlights from distant cars winding their way down (or up) distant meandering mountain roads usually on the horizon.
I've seen them almost everywhere I've travelled in the Southwest where the air is clear and dry.
i don't really like colorado. it sucks these days.
And I think the Netherlands suck.
Whats the point of arguing opinion other than to draw me into a pointless argument?
More Marfa video.
What thread?
Phila
I just answered your question. I'm a psychic alien and knew what Mr. Murder meant. I already know what Tobes said. Our experiments with you DNA have not always been a success. Spontaneous canine combustions, cattle mutilations... etc.Z
This thread is a goddamn disaster area. I think I'll run along, even if it means not finding out what I'm sorry about, and why it makes me an apologist.
Well the highway this happens at has caused many of the same occurrecnces. The tree line it happens on most is an old waterway, and cars that have been engulfed by such phenomenae have lost their battery charge. It's an electrostimulus of some kind...
Hmmm...
More Marfa Video 3rd one down.
The 2004 SPS investigation
In May 2004, a group from The Society of Physics Students at the University of Texas, Dallas spent four days investigating and recording lights observed southwest of the view park. Their report [1] proved the following points.
U.S. Highway 67 is visible from the Marfa Lights viewing location
The frequency of lights southwest of the view park correlates with the frequency of vehicle traffic on U.S. 67
The motion of the observed lights behaved in a predictable fashion
At least one light was directly correlated with a vehicle on U.S. 67 observed by a chase vehicle.
They came to the conclusion that all of the lights observed southwest of the view park could be reliably attributed to automobile headlights traveling along U.S. 67 between Marfa and Presidio, TX.
Other researchers with longer running studies have photographed mysterious lights south and southeast of the view park. For additional information visit www.nightorbs.net
Note that an independent discovery, http://godshome.us/marfa, reveals another example of how ordinary automobile headlights are visible from great distances.
i don't really like colorado. it sucks these days.
And I think the Netherlands suck.
Whats the point of arguing opinion other than to draw me into a pointless argument?
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i don't know. i was just saying that i don't like colorado. i like new mexico better. i have lots of relatives in colorado. maybe that is one of the reasons i don't like it. lots of people do like colorado. it's a beautiful state. i don't blame them.
The Marfa lights or the Marfa Mystery Lights are unexplained lights (known as "ghost lights") usually seen near U.S. Route 67 on Mitchell Flat east of Marfa, Texas of the United States.
The first confirmed report of the Marfa Lights dates to a 1957 magazine article. Earlier oral reports of the Marfa Lights have been attributed to Robert Reed Ellison in 1883. According to the historian Cecilia Thompson, writing in 'History of Marfa and Presidio County', Mr Ellison did not record the Marfa Lights in his memoirs written in 1937 but told his family about them and this information was orally relayed by them. No verifiable written sources for the Marfa Lights predate the 1950's.
Just when automobiles were becoming ubiquitous...
"U.S. POLICY TOWARD IRAQ" SENATOR JOSEPH BIDEN Thursday, July 31, 2003 I said at the first hearing a year ago today, and I still believe that, "We need a better understanding of what it would take to secure Iraq and rebuild it economically and politically. It would be a tragedy if we removed a tyrant and replaced it only with chaos."
Biden 'losing patience' over situation in Iraq Published: June 8 2005 03:00 Senators considering the nomination of Zalmay Khalilzad as the next US ambassador to Iraq yesterday heard a sober assessment of the situation there, with one leading Democrat doubting he could still support a US troop presence if significant progress were not made within a year.
Biden's view: Senator and presidential candidate on Iraq war, Bush's counterattack on critics and Democrats and abortion Wednesday, November 16, 2005
"It's time to change, not to stay the course, change the course. The president has two-and-a-half months to get it right or we're
going to be in real trouble ...[Without progress] we will continue to have Americans killed in iraq with no clear strategy for victory
or two, which I predict will happen, the American people saying, 'Enough is enough is enough. ring them home even though we know bad things will happen to us as consequence of Iraq being in chaos.'"
Washington Post Staff Writers Saturday, July 8, 2006
He said he found it "disturbing" the Shiite-led government did not seem to have a sufficient sense of urgency about incorporating Sunni Muslim leaders into the political process.
Unless there is a trustworthy police force and a greater Sunni commitment to peace, Biden said, "I don't know how they can keep this thing together."
Biden said that one year from now, if there is not significant
progress reducing sectarian violence and disbanding the militias, and much more stability, "there's going to be really no prospect, in my view, of keeping any large number of American forces here."
They came to the conclusion that all of the lights observed southwest of the view park could be reliably attributed to automobile headlights traveling along U.S. 67 between Marfa and Presidio, TX.
As I said, automobile headlights. BTW the video seems more like a promotional video from the local chamber of commerce.
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Oh! NOW I get it! It's the name!
[(how are we supposed to get past the fucking name? Isn't a name kind of important?). ]
Well, disregarding the fact that "I Don't Like The Name" is the Ultimate Ad-Hominem Argument ...
Yes, I am kufr. I do not believe as Muslims do.
How about you, kei & yuri? Are you kufr? Do you believe as Muslims do? As libs, of course, you deeply _respect_ Islam, so do you find it _difficult_ to declare your disbelief of it?
PS: I am NOT a registered LGFer. I'm just a kufr.
Nothing but headlights from distant cars winding their way down (or up) distant meandering mountain roads usually on the horizon.
I've seen them almost everywhere I've travelled in the Southwest where the air is clear and dry.
Agent Orange
Weren't hardly no headlights out in west Texas a hundred years ago. It might just be the desert version of swamp gas, but I wish someone would figure it out. Damn, it's been a long time...
Marfa Fitzmas!
I bet it was around the time Rove's indictment was put on hold, as long as his testimony holds up.
As I said, automobile headlights. BTW the video seems more like a promotional video from the local chamber of commerce.
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For all I know, it is...
That's just the free sample, though. And no, I aint laying out $14.95 for the rest of it...
PS: I am NOT a registered LGFer. I'm just a kufr.
You're a loon.
Weren't hardly no headlights out in west Texas a hundred years ago. It might just be the desert version of swamp gas, but I wish someone would figure it out. Damn, it's been a long time...
Elmer, PHD
The hundred year allegations have no documentation. It has been 'figured out', they're automobile headlights.
Yes, I am kufr. I do not believe as Muslims do.
That's your problem right there. You are stuck at "belief" like a superstitious primitive. No wonder you see "space aliens" in the skies.
Has anybody seen my balls?
Just when automobiles were becoming ubiquitous...
Wyatt Earp
Interesting. But, again, this is the desert of west Texas. What was ubiquitious in Chicago was still a novelty out there. And frankly, if it was that, I'd think it would be pretty easy to prove it. It still might be, but nobody seems to want to do the research.
The hundred year allegations have no documentation. It has been 'figured out', they're automobile headlights.
Agent Orange
Okeydokey.
Actually, I think the 72 virgins in the land of milk and honey is better than the anal probe on the UFO, but that's just me.
They came to the conclusion that all of the lights observed southwest of the view park could be reliably attributed to automobile headlights traveling along U.S. 67 between Marfa and Presidio, TX.
That's what is said about the "spook light" near Hornet Missouri, despite the fact that records confirming its existence go back 15o years or more.
Wyatt Earp, what do _you_ believe? Anything? Are you "stuck" on anything?
Boeing! 757.
Hey, maybe it's aircraft landing lights! They were becoming ubiquitous in the '50s, as well. Lots brighter, too.
The lights are part of the physical appearance, I don't doubt that, it was the conclusion of most people who view it or examined the settings of occurrence.
The odds of such gas seeps occurring consistently over years, their proximity to such resource and wells, is the issue of interest.
Naturally occurring oil pools led to the largest early well discoveries.
Oil seeps lead to wells, does the same correlation occur with gaseous sources?
As libs, of course, you deeply _respect_ Islam, so do you find it _difficult_ to declare your disbelief of it?
Yeah, kei and yuri love Islam to death, like all liberals. They'd never dream of expressing disbelief in it.
Moron.
Ok, anyone want to legalize marijuana?
Elmer,
Anything is possible, just improbable. If it's ever documented as something other, I will accept that when I see the proof. Just a skeptic.
OK, I'm really turning in now. Gotta get up early so I can fight for gay marriage and sharia.
Wyatt Earp, what do _you_ believe? Anything? Are you "stuck" on anything?
kufr
I'm stuck on band-aids, and band-aids are stuck on me?
Wyatt, Steve, you respect and revere Islam as the ancient, time-proven, beyond-criticism, True Religion of Peace, right?
You wouldn't ever disparage any religion [other than Christianity,] would you?
Nite, Phila
I'm really toby putzold, here's my baby picture.
http://i.somethingawful.com/mjol...-11-
06jesus.jpg
The 2004 SPS investigation
In May 2004, a group from The Society of Physics Students at the University of Texas, Dallas spent four days investigating...
There you go. Last time I went Marfa Light hunting on the Internets, this hadn't been done. I wonder if they sent a car with a huge purple light on top along the route, to see if it showed up...
Wyatt, Steve, you respect and revere Islam as the ancient, time-proven, beyond-criticism, True Religion of Peace, right?
You wouldn't ever disparage any religion [other than Christianity,] would you?
kufr | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 2:41 am | #
Haven't you read "Godless"? We reject all religion, across the board.
Get a load of this: Islam is stupid, and Mohammed was a total fag. Buddhism sucks. Hinduism is for dopes. Mormons are jackasses.
Wyatt, Steve, you respect and revere Islam as the ancient, time-proven, beyond-criticism, True Religion of Peace, right?
If I am in the mood to ponder the imponderable, I tend not to do it in the framework of "revealed religions".
I'm more of a Deist when I'm not an agnostic. There are very few absolute athiests who will continue to believe their is no God when presented with the proof.
I gather from Phila's post that
1) Phila deeply respects Islam.
and/or
2) Phila finds it difficult to express disbelief of Islam.
You wouldn't ever disparage any religion [other than Christianity,] would you?
Speaking for myself, I "disparage" all religions equally.
Mostly because I'm not into infantile fantasy like you.
Hey the World Cup final may be cancelled...the field is under water. Raining like hell in Berlin.
Say, which one of you is actually Deborah Frisch?
Nite, Phila
Wyatt Earp | 07.09.06 - 2:42 am | #
G'night. Enjoy your troll. I was gonna stay a little longer and discuss "The Cloud of Unknowing" with him, but I think I'll find some other way to deal with my insomnia....
Hey Petzold, what am I an "apologist" for, just out of curiosity?
Kufr,
Who said this?
Kill them all, let god sort them out!
It's actually: "Kill them all, God will recognize his own."
Who said that? It wasn't the 101st Chairborne T-shirt you are wearing.
Oh..... I see. Toby is "kufr."
Nice, Tobes.
Phila, are you Deborah Frisch?
OOps, posted too soon.
Phila has clarified 2:44 am: religion is stupid, faggy, dopey, jackassery.
NOW I understand!
What part of Missouri, Steve?
What part of Missouri, Steve?
Hey the World Cup final may be cancelled..
Cancelled? Seems awfully unlikely, if anything postponed.
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Kufr: Well it's in the King's English so it must be in the Bible, right?
religion is stupid, faggy, dopey, jackassery.
Did Phila say that? So did Paine Jefferson and Adams, but with bigger words. The other founders were less inclined to voice those opinions but they shared them.
Oh wait...Deborah Frisch.
I get it, now. Even though the first comment on Frisch's "white flag" post - which calls her a psychotic dingbat - came from an Eschaton regular...and even though I called her "fucking deranged" and characterized what she said to Goldstein as "dumb and despicable"...and even though the handful of other people here who'd read her agreed with me...we're all "apologists" for her.
Whatever. Go to hell, Toby, and take Frisch and Goldstein with you. All you yammering, dishonest, blogosphere-ruining shitheads deserve each other.
Three religions that Steve and Wyatt probably deeply believe:
1) The USA is the source of all evil in the world.
2) Human-induced climate change will kill billions of people.
3) OOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL!
Except for Jefferson. He did call the Bible a "dunghill". Not a big word but he meant a big dunghill.
Who is Deborah Frisch?
Say, which one of you is actually Deborah Frisch?
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 2:46 am | #
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who is this deborah frisch, anyway? i have never heard of her.
Three religions that Steve and Wyatt probably deeply believe:
Reading comprehension. Check it out.
What part of Missouri, Steve?
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/
...Spooklight.html
Just being a red-head could get you burned at the stake for being a witch by Christians.
Phila has clarified 2:44 am: religion is stupid, faggy, dopey, jackassery.
NOW I understand!
kufr | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 2:49 am | #
I don't actually believe that. I was just pointing out the absurdity of claiming that liberal "religion-haters" love Islam.
I don't have a problem with anything but fundamentalism, which I reject whether it wears a cross or a burka. Other than that, religion is A-OK with me. Sorry to disappoint you.
oh good. toby is here. i really like hearing half-assed bullshit.
"oh good. toby is here. i really like hearing half-assed bullshit."
So, you are saying he sits with a list.
Now, to be fair to Jefferson and Jesus. He actually said that Jesus' teachings were the "diamonds in the dunghill". He thought the rest of it was crap. He even to a razor to it and cut out all the crap. Google Jefferson Bible.
I don't have a problem with anything but fundamentalism, which I reject whether it wears a cross or a burka. Other than that, religion is A-OK with me. Sorry to disappoint you.
Phila | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 2:55 am | #
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phila is more tolerant than i am. i hate religious people.
OK, Phila, good post, thanks!
who is this deborah frisch, anyway? i have never heard of her.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista! | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 2:54 am | #
I never heard of her before this AM. Apparently, she said some stupid and diseased stuff about Jeff Goldstein's kid, for which she's rightly been excoriated by people on the right and left. She quit her job at the UOA too, apparently.
Toby desperately wants to suck Goldstein's cock, so he's trying to position himself as Goldstein's fearless online advocate over here, blissfully unaware that Pablo already has the job in perpetuity and that the few people over here who've heard of Frisch thinks she's a creep who pretty much got what she deserved.
Kufr,
No one is knocking religion. It's like government or any other institution or device or extension of mankind. Fill it full of crooks, con-artists and demagogues and it does bad shit.
Sightings of the spook light are common, sometimes even reported to be seen inside vehicles.
My uncle claims this happened to him years ago and he has refused to take me there to see it.
He lives just a few miles from there.
I hope they don't postpone the World Cup final on account of rain. In fact, the general muddiness may make the game more interesting. Lots more wipes-out and unsurefootedness.
Well that is the most plausible then, the 'New Madrid Fault Line' transects at the site of the light here.
Senath Light.
phila is more tolerant than i am. i hate religious people.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista
Even Thomas Merton? No one hated Thomas Merton, except the government and the Church hierarchy maybe. He was a religious man, and a modern day Christian mystic.
Phila, I am pleased to see that you have also condemned Deborah Frisch's awful remarks to my friend.
That raises your stock in my eyes.
If only more of your coreligionists here were as principled.
OK, Wyatt, I understand. Thanks!
Anonymous:
So, you are saying he sits with a list.
I mean, there's nothing of a fist
Or bricks or bats or
Longest knives
Or any means to the end of lives
That could be taken from my list
And set amongst those who survive.
I never heard of her before this AM. Apparently, she said some stupid and diseased stuff about Jeff Goldstein's kid,
That's unfortunate. It comes with the territory, however. Not attacking people's children, but the smear wars get out of hand and even people who should know better lose their ethical and moral footing.
The genuine, admirable pacifist impulse arises among Christians, like Merton and Tolstoy. We see it practiced by the Mennonites and Quakers. I cannot fault their motives.
Like I said the other night, Matt 5-7.
And set amongst those who survive.
What a nasty piece of work you are.
"Phila, I am pleased to see that you have also condemned Deborah Frisch's awful remarks to my friend."
Who the hell is Deborah Frisch and why the hell are you friends with a paste-eating hypocrite?
Senath Light.
Hmmm...
I hope to see the spook light this summer if time allows. If I do I'll take my digicam.
OK, Wyatt, I understand. Thanks!
kufr
You are welcome. When the mood strikes me I can appreciate a spiritual dimension in my life, without necessarily believing in all kinds of mumbo-jumbo. Call it a sense of wonderment.
Phila, I am pleased to see that you have also condemned Deborah Frisch's awful remarks to my friend.
That raises your stock in my eyes.
De nada. Goldstein's a pathological liar, an pseudointellectual fraud, and a sissy-boy bully who's unable to take one-tenth of what he dishes out. But that's no excuse for sick sexual slurs against his wife and child. As I said earlier, someone as unstable as Frisch seems to be shouldn't even be training dogs, let alone teaching.
That said, I don't think anyone here who's familiar with the situation would disagree with me. The Kenosha Kid dissed Frisch on her blog. Geoduck said she was a loon, too. I haven't seen a single person defend her. Have you?
Toby, put away your sock puppet, you racist fuck.
Have you no shame?
Kufr,
If you believe Ann Coulter, you might as well believe OBL. They are saying the same things. Literally.
And her comments about liberals are almost indistinguishable from Hitler's comment on liberals.
Take the quiz:
http://www.people.virginia.edu/
~...oulterquiz.html
Recent Greg Palast interview with Hugo Chávez.
http://progressive.org/mag_intv0706
http://www.ghosts.org/
ghostlight...hostlights.html
If only more of your coreligionists here were as principled.
Toby Petzold
Toby, Ann and Adolph. Three of a kind.
"The Arbyrd or Senath Spooklight. Located down in the Missouri bootheel.
Near these two towns is a ghost light. From the town of Senath where
Dunklin County Road C meets US 412 (also called SR25), go south on Dunklin County Road C (also called 643) for 3.3 miles. You will drive south through Europa, and turn left or east on 602, its the first street past Europa. It's just before you reach Lulu Baptist Church and Cemetery.
It will be a dirt road, look for what the locals call deadman's tree stump
about 1/4 to 1/2 mile down this road. You will need to turn around and
face the way you came down this road. The legend here says that you are
supposed to flash your car headlights 3 times to call the light.
The other location I have found for this light, and where most of the reports of people seeing it are located along an old rail road bed. People park along the bend in the road where the old railroad grades meet, the light travels down along this old railroad grade from the north, stops and returns the way it came.
The railroad grade is located just SE of Hornersville Junction, along the
unnamed road Where the two RR beds meet (see map). For more info visit the Dunklin County Library at 100 Douglas Ave.
Also read our pages for Farrenburg & its stories, because the towns of Kennett, Arbyrd, Hornersville, and Senath are so close to each other they have all been listed under these two cities."
That said, I don't think anyone here who's familiar with the situation would disagree with me. The Kenosha Kid dissed Frisch on her blog. Geoduck said she was a loon, too. I haven't seen a single person defend her. Have you?
Phila
First I had heard of her, or the incident. Google told me she was a psychologist. I'd expect more from someone with that kind of training.
Not attacking people's children, but the smear wars get out of hand and even people who should know better lose their ethical and moral footing.
Wyatt Earp | 07.09.06 - 3:06 am | #
I don't know. I have a bad temper and a sharp tongue, but I know where to draw the goddamn line. If the blogosphere is just gonna devolve into people yelling stuff like,
"I'm gonna fuck your kid!"
"Oh yeah? Well, I'm gonna kill your wife!"
then I want no part of it. Sane people don't say shit like that.
Of course, people like Toby and his "friend" Goldstein don't seem to care how many innocent kids get blown to bits in order to "stop" "Islamofascism." And I won't even get into the Thers/Mary thing, in which Goldstein revealed himself to have the ethics of a fucking gnat.
But yeah, unlike Toby and Goldstein, I believe very strongly that people's spouses and kids are not fair game.
Even Thomas Merton? No one hated Thomas Merton, except the government and the Church hierarchy maybe. He was a religious man, and a modern day Christian mystic.
Wyatt Earp | 07
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thomas merton is ok, i guess. that isn't what we are dealing with right now though. it's not like thomas merton has taken over the whole political system.
Mr.Murder, I've had firsthand witnesses tell me about their experiences eith the spook light, and all agree it's very strange. It's been described as being different colors when observed by multiple people at the same time, and some said that it chased their car and then disapeared, only to appear in front of them seconds later. My uncle claims it appeared inside their car, and it scared him enough that he refuses to go back.
I'll have to check it out for myself.
This morning I saw a VW van, a relic, covered with a tarp, with a bumper sticker:
Warning: Driver carries no Grateful Dead tapes.
"But yeah, unlike Toby and Goldstein, I believe very strongly that people's spouses and kids are not fair game."
The real world identities of people in the blogosphere is never more important they themselves choose to make them. This is the fundamental point that pasty cannae grasp.
"But yeah, unlike Toby and Goldstein, I believe very strongly that people's spouses and kids are not fair game."
The real world identities of people in the blogosphere is never more important they themselves choose to make them. This is the fundamental point that pasty cannae grasp.
Jeez, I was just sitting here in the office and I heard a really loud thump and some lights moving and shining crazily out the side window. I ran outside and a car had left the road, hit a huge concrete drainage pipe and the car's lights were shining upwards out of the very deep ditch in front here. So I called the police and suggested they send an ambulance too, since, by the sound, it hit hard. So I walked up to it, hesitantly, afraid of what I might see and have to deal with and there's nobody in the car. Just a bottle of gin. They've stopped a guy and are questioning him about a hundred yards down the road right now.
Sane people don't say shit like that.
Actually, under pressure, sane people do all kinds of things they regret. I know what you are saying and I make this observation and hope you take it seriously. We are reaching a point where the sane people are leaving the right. The more "unbalanced" ones know this. They are the first to know this, and this explains the high level of troll agitation and acts of desperation like the NYTimes smear.
You can tell the car rolled and the front windshield is all broken up.
Good for you, Ô¿Ô, responsible person that you are. Good for you.
Fucking liberal.
At least he didn't physically harm self, Incog.
Steve, there's a Cemetary outside of either Senath or hornersville, quite old, that a friend's ancestors were buried in.
Several of the graves read: "Died for the noble cause of the Confederacy" on them.
The Missouri compromise really wasn't that in the delta region.
Kinda deflates coulters only liberals talk and use diplomacy eh?
A U.S. envoy expressed support for
China's proposal to hold informal six-nation talks on the North Korean nuclear threat and offered to meet bilaterally with the North on the sidelines of those discussions.
Actually, under pressure, sane people do all kinds of things they regret. I know what you are saying and I make this observation and hope you take it seriously. We are reaching a point where the sane people are leaving the right. The more "unbalanced" ones know this. They are the first to know this, and this explains the high level of troll agitation and acts of desperation like the NYTimes smear.
Wyatt Earp | 07.09.06 - 3:25 am | #
No argument from me. Except maybe to say that when sane people are driven to certain extremes, they're not really sane anymore. Which is why one needs to stick to principles on this stuff as much as humanly possible...the life you save may be your own, as the saying is.
He must have jumped out right away and took off running because I was walking up to the car within about 30 seconds. Apparently, when he saw the police patrol car lights on he started walking instead of running.
Wyatt, I said nothing about Coulter.
I appreciate the beauty of the natural world. I can understand, but reject, the conclusion of creation. I'm _stunned_ by Christ's novel teachings, but cannot turn-the-other-cheek to monsters like Mohammed Atta. I've seen evil in the world, and to the extent that the evil wishes to destroy me and the things I love, I have to fight evil. I have to take evil at its word, when it says it hates freedom: the freedom to watch TV, to dance, to get high, to respect women, to accept gays, to embrace the scientific method, to reject ritual doctrine.
My beef is that, all too often, progressives will defend viewpoints, for no other reason that they are minority-held, or that they are culturally-based. The progressive notion seems to be that all norms of the powerful are ipso facto oppressive, therefore all to be rejected. The underdog is always to be celebrated and defended, regardless of the moral or logical merits.
PS: What do I think about Coulter? She's a highly intelligent, reckless, bomb-thrower.
This is the fundamental point that pasty cannae grasp.
Snow, Deposing Kos
A fellow Scot?
"They've stopped a guy and are questioning him about a hundred yards down the road right now."
Well, it all sounds like the best outcome that can be expected. Not to worry.
My uncle claims this happened to him years ago and he has refused to take me there to see it.
and to think they call me crazy...
Morning, evneing moonbats
You'll probably find your share of partiers out there, unless it's hunting season. A rite of passage place.
I think they should do a "Stand By Me" kind of movie there.
Of course when you ewant to stay out you cvan always claim the Senath Light messed up the ride as well.
One person who had the light on his ride basically signed, a kind of wamr fuzzy electric phenomena and it drained his car battery. Spooked him good.
Delta, swamp gas, conflux of fault lines to do stimulate a geostatic anomaly, a former coal bed for a railroad track, and nearby car lights.
Seems to be everything necessary to cause different types of phenomena. The earliest accounts centered on two light varieties for color.
I have to take evil at its word, when it says it hates freedom: the freedom to watch TV, to dance, to get high, to respect women, to accept gays, to embrace the scientific method, to reject ritual doctrine.
Odd words from a "Bushite," given that the Bush administration is implacably hostile to all but the first two of the freedoms you listed.
I wish someone could explain to me why Christian theocrats are better than Muslim ones. I just don't see it.
I agree, Phila. I do not defend or excuse what she did. OTOH, we have been under attack by a small, extremist segment our own population and the attacks are likely to get more vicious as they lose the power they briefly.
"A fellow Scot?"
Long removed from the motherland, but, yes.
Hot, hot, hot!
I live near the beach in Southern California. Where is the marine layer? Why isn't it cool and damp at night?
Time was when the eternal forecast was "Late night and early morning low clouds, afternoon sun." Bring a wrap if you're going to be around after sundown.
Now it's relentlessly hot. What's the world coming to?
*singed*
looked like it static puffed up his hair, kind of left a burnt hair smell to him...
I didn't feel bad when he was deployed. I mean he was a gay man who had voted for Bush twice. He deserved a little punishment, and my boyfriend and I had both fallen in love with his boyfriend, so we were glad to see him go.
And so we spent 6 months, being intimate with the boyfriend, while he sat in the desert, choking on sand. Now that he's coming home, I am afraid. He's been lashing out at me via email and I suspect he can feel that I love his boyfriend. He knows and I have a terrible feeling that when he comes home, things are not going to go well. And I have a terrible feeling that he's going to get in my face, and he's going to try to provoke me.
So I'm going to step away for a while. For as much as it will kill me to miss the company of his boyfriend, what I really fear is real death. The death that will come from the gun of an enraged lover, a depressed and angry soldier who will be coming home to a nest that has been fouled up.
I'm just going to have to get out of the way, and make sure I am no where near the mess that is about to explode.
That raises your stock in my eyes.
Certainly a reason for rejoicing, no?
no.
Now it's relentlessly hot. What's the world coming to?
Unseasonal strong Santa Anna winds?
Kufr,
Atta is Atta
Rumi is Rumi
Phila,
Ron used to be one of Misha's readers. Now he's a friend of mine.
Kufr,
Atta is Atta
Rumi is Rumi
Phila,
Ron used to be one of Misha's readers. Now he's a friend of mine.
OTOH, we have been under attack by a small, extremist segment our own population and the attacks are likely to get more vicious as they lose the power they briefly.
Wyatt Earp | 07.09.06 - 3:35 am | #
Yeah, I imagine they will. Frankly, I really don't see a solution to that. It's a complete mystery what we're supposed to do with these people...there's that whole question of what someone or other (Bloch?) called non-contemporaneity, and its fixation on apocalypse. A lot of the problems these people are dealing with are real enough, God knows...one can't simply tell them they need to adjust, and leave it at that. I'd like to think that attacks like McVeigh's or Rudolph's won't become commonplace, but who knows?
I didn't feel bad when he was deployed.
No offense, but that sounds like a tragic version of "Dear Penthouse" to me.
Phila, just this week, we've seen reports about Somali Muslim-extremists shooting people for watching TV.
Repeat: for watching TV!
Phila, have you not heard about Iranian Muslim extremists executing gays for the crime of ... homosexuality?
Pat Robertson, in his most demented perorations, has executed nobody!
What the hell is wrong with you? Are you so blinded by progressive cultural-relativism that you can't see medieval barbarity for what it is?
I'm just going to have to get out of the way, and make sure I am no where near the mess that is about to explode.
Oh, fer chrissake, petzold, I wish they would ban your sorry ass. Free speech or not, you're a fucking useless dickhead.
Rumi is Rumi
It's a shame that the mystics always seem to be outnumbered by the fundamentalists. Not really surprising, though.
My Friday mail was kind of distrubing.
It shows over fifteen hundred of my 401k vanished with no prior notice.
The fund reopened to trading, the lists is a few brands and corporations I'm not a fan of.
Since reopening I've considered selling. Could have sworn I bought into it at the 20s per share and it's showing 33 plus now.
It's done past interest in the Bush years but that may soon change. It was self directed but the former employer sold the company.
My last balance showed only a hundred sixty in the account with five deposits to it? Got the notice Friday.
I believe they've lost a zero, six months ago it showed 16 hundred in now it's showing a hundred sixty.
I'd hate to call an auditor on the bank my Aunt was VP of when she passed.
"Pat Robertson, in his most demented perorations, has executed nobody!"
Gie him the power tae do so and see the result before you make the analogy. Given wha he has said about my denomination, I'd prefer not.
Phila, how has W:
1) outlawed TV
2) outlawed dance
3) outlawed drinking
4) removed women's rights
5) executed gays
6) banned scientific method
7) enforced ritual doctrine?
You are mistaking your hysteria for reason.
There is NO comparison between W's America and radical Islam's death-grip upon millions of unfortunate people worldwide.
You hate W's guts, you hate his policies, which is fine, but PLEASE wake up from your psilocybin haze for just one minute, and realize there are REAL fascists in the world, and W isn't one of them!
Get frickin serious!
Pat Robertson could explain perhaps some of his investments in South Africa. Also there's a little thing with 'missionary outreach' in the Marianna islands sweathshops...
What the hell is wrong with you? Are you so blinded by progressive cultural-relativism that you can't see medieval barbarity for what it is?
kufr | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 3:43 am | #
I'm not blinded by cultural relativism; I'm blinded by history. When fundamentalists gain enough political power, they oppress people and kill people. It's the nature of the beast. Far from being a relativist, I think people share pretty much the same emotional make-up from one culture to another, and are capable of the same sorts of good and evil actions. The true relativists are on the Right, where it's perfectly acceptable to say "it's good when we do it, and bad when they do it." You're still children, basically.
Kinda deflates coulters only liberals talk and use diplomacy eh?
Which party was in power in the Oval Office and in the Congress during World Wars I and II, when the *vast* majority of Republicans, conspicuously including Senator Robert Taft from Ohio, were yelling loudly, "Ah, let's sit this one out."
Well, I am obviously too drunk to type well so I shall be to bed.
Give up on your fears, Toby; you're better than that.
Republicans thought Hitler was the answer to COmmunism in the 30s.
They ran hard from that record, and fast.
Snow, NO, I am not going to wait for some dubious hypothetical, HandMaidensTale, Robertson-World, before I can point out REAL, RIGHT-NOW, fascism in the world!
I'm not talking about some weird fever-dream in Snow's [progressive] head; I'm talking about what's actually happening in the world today.
but PLEASE wake up from your psilocybin haze for just one minute, and realize there are REAL fascists in the world, and W isn't one of them!
BTW, that reminds me; Thanks for the awesome shrooms, phila.
(Rolls eyes)
Phila, how has W:
1) outlawed TV
2) outlawed dance
3) outlawed drinking
4) removed women's rights
5) executed gays
6) banned scientific method
7) enforced ritual doctrine?
You are mistaking your hysteria for reason.
I didn't say Bush did any of these things; I said he was hostile to them. If it's bad to ban the scientific method, it's also bad to ignore or falsify it for political gain, as Bush has done many times. If it's bad to execute gays, it's also bad to deny them the rights that other tax-paying citizens enjoy.
That said, there are plenty of politically connected people in the United States who are in favor of policies like these.
The way you prevent these tendencies from escalating is by naming them when you seen them, and nipping them in the bud. You don't just say, "It's OK to deny people rights as long as you don't execute them."
I just got a disturbing e-mail from Iraq.
I tried to respond to one of your earlier posts, kufr, but halocam ate it. Phila did a good job, though.
I'm not talking about some weird fever-dream in Snow's [progressive] head; I'm talking about what's actually happening in the world today.
Toby, religious extremists are all the same, be they Christian or Muslim.
If you can't see that then you really are hopeless.
It fucking twists Rethugs up eight ways to Sunday for them to realize that the overwhelming majority of the "Greatest Generation" were Democrats.
Hitler was a Christian.
Is it just me, or is there a faint stench of troll around here?
That's not to say I don't enjoy the scent of skunk when I recycle beer bottles.
Phila, here is precisely your blindspot:
"I think people share pretty much the same emotional make-up from one culture to another."
Wrong, wrong, wrong. When I was a lefty, I believed that crap, too.
9-11 proved that wrong. Totally, completely, absolutely wrong.
As a lefty, I met folks of all different cultures, and I extrapolated from the people I met. "Mr. X is a nice guy, very western, very friendly, a good family man," and from that I erroneously concluded that his culture was just as "good," just as "valid," as mine.
Fallacy of generalization! Anecdotal fallacy. Discounting of "handlers." [e.g., go to Cuba, and find a "guide" critical of the regime.]
BTW, that reminds me; Thanks for the awesome shrooms, phila.
No problem.
These guys sure do love their strawmen. I don't think I've ever taken psilocybin. A big night for me is a couple of glasses of wine or beer.
Sheesh.
We need merely suggest that the Soviets beat the Nazis in World War II.
When I'm in my right mind, my left mind gets lonely.
9-11 proved that wrong. Totally, completely, absolutely wrong.
How many friends do you have over in Iraq, kufr?
Phila writes: "If it's bad to execute gays, it's also bad to deny them the rights that other tax-paying citizens enjoy."
It is not EQUALLY bad. It is not even remotely related! It's actually obscene to compare the two!
Phila's is cultural relativism at it's most pernicious degree!
We know Toby has no friends, except for the imaginary kind. And us, sort of...
I went through the "Left Behind" books avidly, anticipating the "Right Behind" sequel. But, no, we never got the full butt.
9-11 proved that wrong. Totally, completely, absolutely wrong.
No, it didn't. 9/11 was the same exact shit people have been doing to each other forever: a terrorist attack.
It scared you, and maybe even made you go a little nuts. But it was basically a bunch of people blowing up a bunch of other people. Was it very serious? Yeah. Did it necessitate an offensive and defensive response on out part? Absolutely. Is it proof of a fundamental difference between "us" and "them"? Only to infantile moral relativists like yourself.
Phila's is cultural relativism at it's most pernicious degree!
kufr
He/she/it is starting to get frothy now.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
Adolph Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922
http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
It doesn't take a huge stretch to hear GWB saying this.
Phila, from this day forward, I am going to use your ridiculously stupid statement whenever I disparage progressives.
Phila wrote: "If it's bad to execute gays, it's also bad to deny them the rights that other tax-paying citizens enjoy."
If there was EVER a fricking STUPID thing a progressive wrote, that was it!
Well, kufr, if you had any friends over in Iraq, instead of getting your info (propaganda) stateside from the warbloggers, you'd know the war there is lost. Over. Failed. Done.
Folks? Grown-ups? Anybody?
The troll is cranky and needs to go to bed. Could we just leave it alone?
So that being the case, how does this make us safer? How does it prevent another 9/11?
If there was EVER a fricking STUPID thing a progressive wrote, that was it!
Go to bed Toby.
Tomorrow's a new day.
It is not EQUALLY bad. It is not even remotely related! It's actually obscene to compare the two!
Didn't say it was equally bad. However, if you want to live in a culture where gays don't get executed, giving them equal rights is a pretty good way to go about it.
It's not at all obscene to compare the two, given that they're both predicated on the notion that gays are somehow less human than "normal" people.
Phila's is cultural relativism at it's most pernicious degree!
kufr
Agreed. A politcally ambivalent troll is the worst kind.
If there was EVER a fricking STUPID thing a progressive wrote, that was it!
kufr | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 4:12 am | #
Since you're a moral relativist, I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently.
That should have read:
The troll is cranky and needs to go to bed. Could we just leave it alone?
bad Jim
Agreed. A politcally ambivalent troll is the worst kind.
Phila writes: "Is it proof of a fundamental difference between "us" and "them"?"
Yup, no fundamental difference between us and them.
Us: women can vote, drive cars, walk around near naked.
Them: women can't vote, can't drive cars, must be veiled, can't walk unescorted.
Us: gays constitute a higher-than-average-earning demographic, contribute to our culture and national narrative.
Them: gays are executed.
I ask again, Phila: what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you so blind to obvious evil?
Who wants to see some of an e-mail from Iraq?
Anyone?
Us: women can vote, drive cars, walk around near naked.
One canton (state) in Switzerland only gave women the vote in 1977. They could vote in the federal perhaps, not state.
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
Substitute "Turrist" (aka "muzzies", for all you freepers) for Jew and that's GWB in a nutshell.
We need a troll-truck to haul these trolls away like the one here pulling this car out of the ditch.
Sorry for the lack of updates since my last comment but there was a real hot cop here I was giving information to...
This is the part that scared me, sorta...
ex-mil, marine gunnery sgt. nam vet, in Iraq as a civilian contractor attached to the DoD. Stone cold conservative. Some of my best friends are conservatives... :grin:
Corruption in our government at all levels is rampant; if not of the illegal variety, certainly of the moral variety. Another American revolution is not so far-fetched an idea anymore.
He's not about to vote Democrat, but I wouldn't want to be a Republican right now.
Phila writes: "Is it proof of a fundamental difference between "us" and "them"?"
Yup, no fundamental difference between us and them.
I thought the Central American death squads were a bit over the top, personally. I thought Pinochet and Suharto were pretty bad, too.
But I'm funny that way...I figure when thousands of people get killed unjustly, it doesn't make that big a difference whether they're killed with hijacked airliners or machetes.
Again, you're the one arguing for cultural relativism. I'm arguing that human beings kill each other for money and power, and out of racial and religious animus.
That said, I'm certainly in favor of fighting terrorists. The fact that Bush is lousy at it by any sane person's reckoning is a whole other issue.
Who wants to see some of an e-mail from Iraq?
Anyone?
Let's hear it.
Phila wrote: "If it's bad to execute gays, it's also bad to deny them the rights that other tax-paying citizens enjoy."
If there was EVER a fricking STUPID thing a progressive wrote, that was it!
kufr | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 4:12 am | #
huh???
The problem with progs like Phila is they adopt an unserious, jocular, superficial attitude toward life. They get all their news from Jon Stewart.
Everything, to them, is a fricking joke. Every cogent point is met by a witty reposte.
Drugs play a part, too, I'm sure.
He gets CentCom Intel briefs. No OpSec breach in him telling me this.
This is his SitRep on the war in Iraq:
We need a harsher word than clusterfuck: this is beyond that. I'm sorry, but no way can this be laid solely at the feet of those now in power. I honestly wish that were the truth, because the reality is far worse than that. This crap goes way back and the bloody hands of your beloved Dems are all over the knife as well. There must be some good men on both sides of the aisle, but few and far between.
Not what BushCo wants you to hear, though.
Phila's is cultural relativism at it's most pernicious degree!
kufr
Cultural relativism is not nihilism.
Besides, this isn't relativism.
hmm well you did say he was a conservative, and i hate the dems waffling and going along with it, but the whale's share (lion's share isnt strong enough) of the responsibility lies with the republicans.
Drugs play a part, too, I'm sure
I'll bet he's stroking his goatee while whacked out on weed, eh Tobes?
Phila wrote: "If it's bad to execute gays, it's also bad to deny them the rights that other tax-paying citizens enjoy."
If there was EVER a fricking STUPID thing a progressive wrote, that was it!
kufr
Actually, I quite agree with Phila.
I believe in equal citizenship rights for all adults.
But some people are ok with discrimination. It's a matter of the degree of discrimination.
i havent seen phila joking--he means what he says, and it makes sense.
Last one. This is from yesterday and a response from a young Marine officer he is friends with. Guy has 2 Masters degrees...
It is a shame that terrible things happen in war, but I think sometimes
we forget that war is in itself a terrible thing. The public's
expectations for how we fight have been raised to a level that surpasses
what can reasonably be expected from a battlefield (or lack thereof).
This war has reached a level where winning the hearts and minds is no
longer a viable strategy, but what is required would never be tolerated
by the American people. That is why I think we have reached a stalemate,
not with the enemy, but with ourselves.
We are not willing to commit the resources we need to crush the enemies' will to fight, nor are we able to use the tactics and force required. We had a window of oppor tunity in the 6-12 months after the fall of Saddam to make things happen here, and we missed it. Now the insurgents have the upper hand and we have never been able to catch up.
huh???
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 4:27 am | #
It's simple...as long as you don't kill gays, it's OK to deny them rights. As long as I don't kill my wife, I can smack her around. As long as I don't kill my dog, I can kick it. And so on.
It's not really surprising. Schmucks like kufr are such chickenshits about terrorism that they'll forfeit rights in a heartbeat...they can't understand why everyone doesn't feel the same way. They love the slippery slope argument when it says gay marriage will lead to legalized bestiality. But when it says that treating a class of citizens as legally less equal than others can have dangerous consequences...not so much.
Phila writes: "But I'm funny that way...I figure when thousands of people get killed unjustly, it doesn't make that big a difference whether they're killed with hijacked airliners or machetes."
And it doesn't matter a bit to Phila whether it is his own country which is attacked, or some other.
If Phila's daughter got blown up on the DC Metro, it would be justified by the murder of a girl in Nicaragua 20 years ago.
To Phila, all deaths are the same, all causes are morally equal.
I am astonished, and a bit discouraged, by how easily Phila ignores, EXCUSES, evil.
Toby is the only troll I've seen lately that gets the smackdown and comes back for more, like a duck on a junebug.
BTW, the Declaration of Independence was a suicide pact.
look kufr, several people have pointed out the flaws in your logic--the statements you cite from Phila dont support your conclusions. please try to make a cogent argument.
kufr argues just like toby. coincidence i guess.
FWIW, moral relativism is never a problem for liberals. We wear our bleeding hearts on our sleeves.
Moral relativism is a problem for folks justifying torture. Bedwetters, basically.
The problem with progs like Phila is they adopt an unserious, jocular, superficial attitude toward life. They get all their news from Jon Stewart.
Apropos of which, everyone should quit this place forthwith, and read How Conservatives Argue.
It's funny 'cause it's true.
Well, hell. Haloscan ate my comment.
Anyway: It's deeply ironic that we are arguing for the classical Englightenment values of citizenship rights, human rights, and the rejection of torture -- yet this troll thinks it is "cultural relativism."
Aiiii...
To Phila, all deaths are the same, all causes are morally equal.
HOMICIDE, n.
The slaying of one human being by another. There are four kinds of homocide: felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy, but it makes no great difference to the person slain whether he fell by one kind or another -- the classification is for advantage of the lawyers.
A.B.
And politicians...
Your post could have left off the last two words and it would have been just as newsworthy.
I'm a life-long fan, so I can say that.
kufr argues just like toby. coincidence i guess.
It's uncanny.
Anyway... what I get from my friends in Iraq is that they will be safer if we bring them home. And so will we. And these are not guys who know fear. Just common sense.
The Bush administration believes in Postmodernism and the power of discourse to create reality more then any group of lit crit people I've ever met.
It's unbelievable how they valued the control of domestic discourse & politics over the facts on the ground in Iraq.
(or N. Korea or Iran or China or Afghanistan)
Apropos of which, everyone should quit this place forthwith, and read How Conservatives Argue.
Four kinds of homicide listed, and it left off long pork?
Soylent Green - it's what's for dinner.
They get all their news from Jon Stewart.
One of the top 5 news programs on TV.
Soylent Green - it's what's for dinner.
bad Jim
IT'S MADE OF PEEOPLE!!!
whoever wrote that about conservative debating tactics nailed it.
And it doesn't matter a bit to Phila whether it is his own country which is attacked, or some other.
It matters to me what happens to my country, and what it does in the world, and how it goes about living up to its stated ideals. That's why I, unlike you, am not a moral relativist.
Another case in point:
If Phila's daughter got blown up on the DC Metro, it would be justified by the murder of a girl in Nicaragua 20 years ago.
I am astonished, and a bit discouraged, by how easily Phila ignores, EXCUSES, evil.
Putting aside your ludicrous claim that I think acts of terrorist violence can be "justified" by other acts of terrorist violence, you seem to have no problem ignoring and/or excusing the murder of a girl in Nicaragua 20 years ago. I guess in 20 years the lives lost on 9/11 will be no big deal either, eh?
Infant.
Anyway... what I get from my friends in Iraq is that they will be safer if we bring them home. And so will we. And these are not guys who know fear. Just common sense.
Wyatt Earp
It's difficult to get accurate & good consistent information about Iraq. But from what I can gather, it sounds like our military has increasingly restricted itself to the super-bases. Although it certainly sounds like they are still patrolling & fighting in places. & It sounds like the need to protect supply lines to these basis takes a lot of boots on the ground.
But it sounds like our troops can't do much to stop the ethnic cleansing & violence that is occuring in Iraq.
The Bush administration believes in Postmodernism and the power of discourse to create reality more then any group of lit crit people I've ever met.
I couldn't agree more, and I actually think that's why they throw around the accusation so much. Criticism is always confession with these folks.
whoever wrote that about conservative debating tactics nailed it.
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 4:43 am | #
Yeah, no kidding.
whoever wrote that about conservative debating tactics nailed it.
pretzelattack | 07.09.06 - 4:43 am | #
Yeah, no kidding.
Phila, at least, please, tell me you are using some kind of _process_ when you compare the American GMA to Iranian gay-executions.
Tell me you are relying on something other than vague feelings when you claim to see no difference between principled opposition to gay-marriage, and hanging a gay man.
Are you being willfully obtuse; are you faithfully embracing dogma; are you reacting to your hatred of W and America;
or do you GENUINELY see no difference between gay life in W's America, and gay death in Ahmadinejad's Iran?
You attribute all kinds of bad motives to me. You're wrong, but that's beside the point! [[ad-hominem]]
Why can't you condemn plain evil where it plainly exists?
Long pork!
I haven't heard that in awhile.
But it sounds like our troops can't do much to stop the ethnic cleansing & violence that is occuring in Iraq.
geoduck | 07.09.06 - 4:44 am | #
i think it will eventually play out like vietnam, we will slink away and have to accept the fact that we have terribly, maybe irreparably, damaged our own interests as a country in pursuit of some futile and unrealistic goal. all those lives and all that money gone, all that credibility and moral authority and world respect severly weakened.
We need a harsher word than clusterfuck: this is beyond that.
Some people speculate that the goal of Bush in Iraq was de-stabailization & chaos.
The hypothesis was that the chaos would allow a secular democratic state to form.
This particular A=B seems like wishful thinking to me.
But if de-stabilization was the goal, they certainly achieved that.
It's difficult to get accurate & good consistent information about Iraq. But from what I can gather, it sounds like our military has increasingly restricted itself to the super-bases.
Straight from the horse's mouth. Although Gunny can be a real horse's ass sometimes. He's still a conservative.
Aside from Baghdad itself, the Army seems to have backed way the hell off. The Marines are actively operating in the west, but elsewhere, the military has kept a much-lower profile. More battlespace has been ceded to the Iraqi Army, with the US as a QRF or back up only. We run ops based on hard intel, but overall we are more of a garrison force. However, we are a marked garrison force and any sort of travel is going to be high-risk for the most part, outside the IZ.
Believe it or not, the Iraqi government is talking of arming the insurgents! The thinking is, the Iraqis if armed will be able to drive out the heavily-armed and organized foreigners who are here in far greater numbers than we are allowed to know by the US government. There are tens of thousands here; mostly Iranian and Syrian and most are military. Needless to say, it doesn't escape even the dullest among us that we, too are foreigners.
geoduck at 4:40: exactly.
Perhaps that's why they demonize the humanities departments in universities. Less the vanity of small differences than their ancient injured vanity.
They certainly didn't spend any time on the sciences. Why on earth are we still arguing about evolution and global warming?
I, myself, am lying in wait for the deniers of Heisenberg. (They're out there.) I'll take away their computers and cell phones.
i think it will eventually play out like vietnam, we will slink away and have to accept the fact that we have terribly, maybe irreparably, damaged our own interests as a country in pursuit of some futile and unrealistic goal.
pretzelattack
I think we've already damaged our interests in terms of the rest of the world is currently blaming us for the violence & lack of security.
I keep on trying to guess how it will end. The Soviets in Afghanistan were there for 10 years.
Some body on CSPan today who said he was an Iraq specialist speculated that if the situation gets worse in Iraq it will go downhill very quickly. (not that the situation isn't bad right now.) I wish I had caught the guy's name. I would like more analysis on Iraq in our news.
geoduck,
I'm not sure they knew what the fuck their plan or it's goal was.
Underpants Gnomes sounds about right.
The Underpants Gnomes have a three-step business plan, consisting of:
Collect underpants
???
Profit!
Believe it or not, the Iraqi government is talking of arming the insurgents!
Wyatt Earp
This seems like a idea that could not go according to plan.
if the situation gets worse in Iraq it will go downhill very quickly
Not the worst description of an exponential function I've ever seen.
The worse it gets, the worse it gets even worse.
I would like more analysis on Iraq in our news.
That's why we aren't getting it. It isn't good news for either party. It's over and it was a total failure.
That was a part of the plan as well. hog up market segment to fuel China's boom, when the gig is up and the worm turns it will simply drive up market prices in the USA.
Mission Accomplished- expensive oil, increased profit margins, and by the time we resume any sort of diplomatic and trade exchange with Iraq, oil will be rendered quaint.
Until then we must increase its profit making capacity in its largest market.
I'm not sure they knew what the fuck their plan or it's goal was.
Underpants Gnomes sounds about right.
The Underpants Gnomes have a three-step business plan, consisting of:
Collect underpants
???
Profit!
Wyatt Earp
ha - pretty much.
I wonder - will the current situation of instability/ violence & ethnic cleansing be sustained, or does it get worse?
And if it gets worse, what's the probable situation here?
I would like to think that it would get better in the next year or so, but that seems very unlikely.
Well, not a total failure, but we have set stuff in motion we have no control over, and control over the outcome was one of the goals.
The guy took out our mailbox here.
ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA
http://apoeticjustice.blogspot.c...in-
america.html
or do you GENUINELY see no difference between gay life in W's America, and gay death in Ahmadinejad's Iran?
Or gay death in Pakistan? Or gay imprisonment in India?
Or gay death in Afghanistan?
Or Mathew Shepard in Wyoming?
If you're dead you're dead. Of course it matters if it's state sanctioned or not - but in the end you're still dead.
W has only one option. If he pulls out and admits defeat he will go down in history as the worse president ever. If he can hold on in Iraq until a new administration comes in he can hand the problem and thus the blame onto them. Really, he has nothing else he can do. The facts that thousands more will die and the our country will be financially and morally bankrupt don't matter.
Phila, great to read you again.
I wonder - will the current situation of instability/ violence & ethnic cleansing be sustained, or does it get worse?
And if it gets worse, what's the probable situation here?
I would like to think that it would get better in the next year or so, but that seems very unlikely.
geoduck
All these questions are above my pay grade. I wish I knew. In the final analysis it may be that we were damned if we did and damned if we didn't before we went in. As Gunny said, he sees responsibility for this going way back and blames both parties.
Well, not a total failure, but we have set stuff in motion we have no control over, and control over the outcome was one of the goals.
Wyatt Earp
Did they really think they'd have control over the situation? It's not like we didn't know about the ethnic tensions in Iraq. And they saw what happened to Yugoslavia.
Hey, everybody! I've got the reasons we invaded Iraq right here!
Unfortunately, there are a lot of them.
* Rove (and Bush) wanted a war, so that George could be a war president, so that the Republicans would prevail in 2002 and so that George would be re-elected in 2004. Of these, the first worked better than the second.
* Osama wanted us out of Saudi Arabia. It's not out of the question that the rest of the Saudis concurred. No longer welcome in the land of the two shrines, the land of the two rivers beckoned, raising the question nearest to Cheney's heart:
Why do we need to have military bases in the Middle East anyway?
* The answer isn't exactly global warming, but it does have a nodding acquaintance with it.
* There's also "He tried to kill my daddy", but how seriously can we take that?
Tell me you are relying on something other than vague feelings when you claim to see no difference between principled opposition to gay-marriage, and hanging a gay man.
I never claimed to see no difference between discriminating against gays and killing them.
Since you're a halfwit, I'll run it by you once more: Denying rights to gay people is bad. Killing people for being gay is much, much worse. But both are based on the false premise that gays are less human than "normal" people, a view that I feel is not only NOT principled, but - in fact - evil.
In your initial comment, you said merely that evil "hates freedom: the freedom to... accept gays." I pointed out that the Bush administration doesn't "accept gays," implying that perhaps it could be considered evil by your own standards.
Just like the fictional conservative in the link I posted, you embarked on an orgy of strawman-erecting and goalpost-shifting. But in fact, you had it right the first time: Evil hates the freedom to accept gays.
I also mentioned - and maybe this is what confused you - that I wasn't convinced that a Christian theocracy would necessarily be better than a Muslim one. In saying that, I wasn't calling the USA in 2006 a Christian theocracy (in fact, I don't even believe that Bush's "Christianity" is sincere). However, there are people in this country who are Christian theocrats, and who have shown themselves to be violent, brutal people. Maybe you'd find it preferable to live under Christian dominionists than Islamic extremists; I'm not so sure I would.
As Gunny said, he sees responsibility for this going way back and blames both parties.
Wyatt Earp |
The parties of Bush Sr.(Baker-Tutwiler) and Bush Jr.(Cheney Rumsfeld).
Both deserve a ton of blame.
As Gunny said, he sees responsibility for this going way back and blames both parties.
Wyatt Earp
Yes.
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I find the relative lack of information about Iraq to be frustrating.
Clinton Praises Bush on Immigration Reform
By ROBERT JABLON, AP
LOS ANGELES (July 
- Former President Bill Clinton praised President Bush on Saturday for supporting reforms that would allow millions of illegal immigrants to seek citizenship but said the debate in Congress is being fomented by Republicans who want to divide America.
bad Jim | 07.09.06 - 5:05 am | #
I see the short bus made a stop.
Huh? somebody just posted the immigration comment under my handle.
I don't know why - too sleepy to figure it out.
Did they really think they'd have control over the situation? It's not like we didn't know about the ethnic tensions in Iraq. And they saw what happened to Yugoslavia.
geoduck
I think they chose to silence or ignore the wiser council.
The parties of Bush Sr.(Baker-Tutwiler) and Bush Jr.(Cheney Rumsfeld).
Both deserve a ton of blame.
Anonymous
Gunny's a staunch conservative and a blood and guts kind of guy. He's not quite ready to vote Democratic. Doesn't like Kerry or Clinton, but he's come a long way over the last couple of years. Give him time.
I also gotta say, I love the idea that I'm a cultural relativist when I'M the one who doesn't believe there's such a thing as a "principled" denial of human rights to gays.
Having gotten my fill of kufr's addled nonsense for tonight, I believe I'll hit the hay. G'night, friends.
However, there are people in this country who are Christian theocrats, and who have shown themselves to be violent, brutal people.
They're also sneaky liars.
Oh - somebody is name stealing me.
Disregard odd looking posts.
It's not like we didn't know about the ethnic tensions in Iraq. And they saw what happened to Yugoslavia.
geoduck | 07.09.06 - 5:05 am | #
And Iraqis knocking eachother off is somehow a bad thing?
Huh? somebody just posted the immigration comment under my handle.
I don't know why - too sleepy to figure it out.
geoduck | 07.09.06 - 5:10 am | #
Once kufr ties himself into logical knots, the namestealing is usually only minutes away.
Totalitarian liberals would make everyone eat oatmeal for breakfast, buckle their seatbelts, pay their taxes, and then smile benignly as they go down to the beach in bikinis (still nagging about sunscreen).
Better than burqas, isn't it?
Please fuck me.
Night Phila -
I appreciate the irony.
I'll keep you guys posted as more news hits the inbox. Pretend your driving in Britain. Keep left.
Phila, on the atrocities of 11 September 2001:
It scared you, and maybe even made you go a little nuts. But it was basically a bunch of people blowing up a bunch of other people. Was it very serious? Yeah. Did it necessitate an offensive and defensive response on out part? Absolutely. Is it proof of a fundamental difference between "us" and "them"? Only to infantile moral relativists like yourself.
Are you saying that the American Way is no better than that of the dirty Submitters?
That's what's wrong with you hippies: you don't have enough knowledge of History or of the wider world to appreciate your liberties here at home.
It's almost like you are trying to goad the Government into taking them away so that you can feel validated.
I would have written "mouff."
And Iraqis knocking eachother off is somehow a bad thing?
geoduck | 07.09.06 - 5:12 am | #
I wish I understood human evil as well as kufr. Then I could post eliminationist boilerplate under other people's names, just like him.
Once kufr ties himself into logical knots, the namestealing is usually only minutes away.
Phila
Got it.
Well, I guess that's my cue to go to bed.
Please disregard odd sounding posts from "geoduck"; it's kufr or some other troll.
Good talking with you all. Hope I wasn't babbling. I'm a little too sleepy to be fully coherent.
I wish I understood human evil as well as kufr. Then I could post eliminationist boilerplate under other people's names, just like him.
Phila
Yeppers.
ok - time to sleep.
Phila:
Maybe you'd find it preferable to live under Christian dominionists than Islamic extremists; I'm not so sure I would.
Christians believe in the dignity of individual man, whereas the Muslims do not.
Fuck off and die Toby. You're trash isn't welcome here.
oh Toby -
that's kind of disappointing. I thought you were above that.
It's almost like you are trying to goad the Government into taking them away so that you can feel validated.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 5:14 am | #
Like they need goading.
Jeez, I remember when the conservative schtick was hatred of government. I gotta say, as tedious and phony as that was, it wasn't quite as grotesque as their current shameless bootlicking.
Look, Toby...it's really simple. You're a coward and a racist. Most people here aren't. Thus, there's not going to be any common ground, ever, between principled people who actually believe in, say, the Constitution, and a pathetic confabulating chickenshit like yourself.
Christians believe in the dignity of individual man, whereas the Muslims do not.
Toby Petzold
Where in Christian text is anything written like that?
"Endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights" is Enlightenment, not Christian.
I thought Christian text was all about how vile humanity was and that it was only because of the 'grace of God', they weren't slung off into hell.
I'd like to bend toby over my kichen table and cornhole him.
Just to see how he likes it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?
v=dcTdiVtU6Tc
Edgar Winter from earlier today- so very good.
I'd like to bend toby over my kichen table and cornhole him.
Whoa, there's a nice image to wake up to.
Christians believe in the dignity of individual man, whereas the Muslims do not.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.09.06 - 5:17 am | #
Ever read the Bible, Toby?
Even if what you were saying is true, theocratic interpretations of what is beneath "the dignity of individual man" can have very uncomfortable consequences for the nonconforming. How much "dignity" might one forfeit, under a Christian fundamentalist government, for sucking cock, pray tell?
I wish you assholes would stick to "I hate ragheads, and I know I won't sleep well until they're all dead." This specious prattling of yours, where you to try and make your mania look like the product of rational thought, is a complete fucking waste of time for everybody.
I'd like to bend toby over my kichen table and cornhole him.
Whoa, there's a nice image to wake up to.
Marwood | 07.09.06 - 5:25 am | #
Gave me the morning wood.
Christians believe in the dignity of individual man, whereas the Muslims do not.
The Crusades were certainly a good example of that.
I'd like to bend toby over my kichen table and cornhole him.
Whoa, there's a nice image to wake up to.
Marwood | 07.09.06 - 5:25 am | #
It's actually kufr again, displaying the proud commitment to morality and clean living that makes America superior to every other nation on earth.
On which note, I'll follow Geoduck to bed. Anything else by "me" is actually my good friend kufr working off his psychosexual angst.
Night-night moonbats, Atriots, all.
I have to take my mother to something like church in the morning. (Even agnostics have sacraments, in practice, or at least the aged do. Unitarians may never agree about God, but they still sing old union songs.)
It's not "dignity" to try to enshrine discrimination of millions of Americans into the Constitution. It's degrading and humiliating if you're one of those millions, actually.
Toby,
I'll cornhole you if you'd like. Hard, fast and dry. No reach-around for you.
It's almost like you are trying to goad the Government into taking them away so that you can feel validated.
Toby Petzold
I wish someone had said that to me.
my good friend kufr working off his psychosexual angst.
Phila
Yeah, I already figured that out, too. My presence here drives him to distraction.
Maybe I'm wrong but it amazes me sometimes how parallel and instant our two thinking is sometimes, only you write alot better. Maybe I'm wrong.
It'd be poetic justice for me to tear up toby's dirty asshole with ol' one eye. Being he's such a homophobe racist.
Anyways, enough of this mirth and merriment. I have some steak and mac-n-cheese with my name on it. Be back laterz.
Ô¿Ô | 07.09.06 - 5:39 am | #
Not me, by the way...
Strange story about twins running Poland:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6070800992.html
I'd say I did a double-take, but that would be too easy.
NASA UFO Hacker May End Up in Guantanamo
09-Jul-2006
Ô¿Ô,
Grow up.
now that murkins have have survived the shock of $3.00 + gas prices, and adjusted their budgets for the increased outgo...time to revisit the 'windfall profits tax' for the oil barons:
April 25, 2006
Washington, DC— Senators Dodd and Dorgan today renewed their effort to pass a Windfall Profits Rebate Act and said they plan to introduce the measure as an amendment to the Emergency Supplemental bill that will come before Congress soon.
...Emergency Supplemental bill was passed in June..sans windfall profits tax...hell, it didn't stand a snowballs chance of passing anyway...just another 'hike up the ole hiney'...
Morning again Moonbats.
Cheetos that look like Toby. One of them told me to blow up that federal building.
Nice puppy. Here, puppy. I'm all sweaty. Damn matches are wet.
Morning, QL
Almost impossible to follow the thread with all the trolls out and about. This is the worst infestation in awhile.
At any rate, I've decided to stop discussing, or even thinking about pulling out of Iraq. As long as w is prez it aint gonna happen. Time to move on and make sure they don't try to sneak through the destruction of Social Security.
QL,
Not me. I will keep shouting how wrong this is until I am either hauled off to the looney bin or succeed.
I was against this from the beginning. I thought it is stupid and self-serving and an incredible affront to all Americans.
People were in the streets by the million and it made no difference. Well, maybe this one: WE WERE RIGHT!
But just being right isn't enough: being right will not bring back the dead. It will not grant the wounded solace. It will not remove the responsibility for this heinous act from this administration. And it certainly will not work to assuage the grievous wound done to America by the warmongering press.
Yet. I will not absolve any of these from their responsibility. So, I do not forgive and forget. I accuse.
DWD - I agree with everything you just said, but we have to work to limit the damages. Once we have some power back then we can accuse. Right now it's just pissing in the wind. Takes energy away from other matters that need to be addressed. Yes, we all but got down on our knees to beg them not to do it.
Morning, rational people.
I guess this might be my only post on this thread, because I doubt I'll be able to break in again.
In any event, our friend Mr. Kufr might want to consider the case of Matthew Shepard when talking about how different the US and Iran are in dealing with homosexuals.
QL, to see how pitiful the press is: John, at Americablog, actually quoted a wire service story quoting some administration official as saying how proud they were that the deaths in Iraq had been reduced to eight this monthe - one a day.
One a day.
Forever
One family destroyed. One father not coming home. One son killed. One less person to be important to someone else. Well, it is only one. . .
And damn them again
morning moonbats
pretty long thread I see
All, Rough night last night. Might sleep again. Later.
Yes Moon, most of it not worth your bother.
i had to leave last night earlier than usual due to an infestation of namestealing trolls.
they have suddenly all appeared at once.
Go Buccos 
Threadbot to the rescue, pls.
Good morning, all.
Lanny Davis being Party Goon on CSpan.
Here, Hearts and Minds, Here, Kitty, Kitty.
'Through the war's first three years, any Iraqi venturing too close to an American convoy or checkpoint was likely to come under fire. Thousands of these "escalation of force" episodes occurred. Now, Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the commander of U.S. ground forces in Iraq, has begun to recognize the hidden cost of such an approach. "People who were on the fence or supported us" in the past "have in fact decided to strike out against us," he recently acknowledged.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...70701155_2.html
MUST SEE TV
Katrina Vanden Heuvel and Lanny Davis debating Lieberman/Lamont
"I've decided to stop discussing, or even thinking about pulling out of Iraq. As long as w is prez it aint gonna happen. "
QL,
I have to agree with you. There isn't enough opposition in Congress to push the issue so we all end up with egg all over our faces. Besides, it gives the repugs something to taunt us about which evades the issues that need to be discussed, especially with the mid-term elections just a few months away.
Another sad fact is I don't hear anything positive coming out of the Democrats that makes me believe they're mounting an electorial attack to sieze control of Congress in November. All I hear is posturing for 2008 Presidential bids.
I think Bu$h may be right when he says the repugs will hold majorities in both House and Senate.
It might even be better if they retain control of both houses. If all we get is a slim majority, we will effectively be neutered while they scream everything is our fault.
Ô¿Ô, love that Cats that look like Hitler. By the way, Barney is the same dog breed as Eva Braun's dog, pictures at EaglesNest are hilarious.
I just discovered there's chocolate left out in the lobby. It want be safe when I returneth tonight!!
BWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
'Challening the grip of corporate money' should be Dem party ideal - Vanden Heuvel. Who said Conn. Dems need some one who will represent them, 60% are against war.
Lanny and Katrina are on c-span now debating Lieberman/Lamont.
Lanny Davis is smearing Lamont. truly sickening.
Funny, Lnny Davis who is Jewish looking amused by caller saying Lieberman is representing CT jews, Lamont is rogue millionaire.
BTW, I worked in Lanny Davis' campaing for Congress in MD's 5th District. I am sick by his party loyalty uber ideals stance now.
Hi Ruth - you're watching this, too. Wow - Lanny Davis is a wanker!!!!
Good morning, fellow libs!!
Ruth, blogger type,
Take a typical american teen-ager type of legal age for military service, give them a gun, teach them how to shoot straight, then let them loose in a lawless country without any strict guidance and supervision, or command structure cognitive of the situaiton they're in and you have Iraq.
It's a pity the government had no plan after the invasion, however, the military has a seasoned command structure that should have put their foot down when the first signs soldiers were stepping over the line appeared. They didn't and now those soldiers may face a war crime tribrunal and some may be put to death. And all just becasue the commanders didn't curb them in the first place. This may be a rallying cry of the repugs,saying the Democrats are all for war crime tribunials and putting american soldiers to death just for doing their job to protect americans from terrorists.
Sad fact is the military is too close to the desires of Bu$h and have allowed themselves to be compromised.
Katrina is doing a great job articulating the progressive postition. The Nation magazine has endorsed Lamont - because of his stand on the war.
Frank Rich takes up his pen once again against a sea of troublesome wingnuts to defend his paper and by opposing them, hopefully, ends them.
Hey Lanny,
You know who was genuine and authentic?
HITLER!
"If all we get is a slim majority, we will effectively be neutered while they scream everything is our fault."
ql,
Bit of irony. WE lost the last election to regain control either House and Senate, but if we try to assert our minority status, we are accused of being unpatrotic when the country is at war and unsupportive of the president. Yet, if we win by the slimest majority, say 51-49, if there is a crack in the crystal glass it will be all our fault. Of course they will fillibuster every chance they can and blame us for the turmoil it causes.
If we take control over the whole Legislature in has to be a clear majority that won't leave any doubt. I just wish I could see it developing, like watching a flower as it blossoms from a bud.
hi, portia, yep, am becoming an admirer of Vanden Heuvel particularly.
anonymous, the tragedy is that with good direction, training and proper equipment the soldiers who are disgracing us could have done the opposite.
Wow, Lanny Davis is a perfect example of a circular firing squad.
LDavis is following a MD Dem tenet, to support the powers that be in the Dem party even at the expense of ideals that we should follow, in order to get the strongest party representation - assuming that then they can go the idealistic route. It lost them Montgomery Co, because the strength of Dems was in Baltimore, so the Md delegation threw money that way at the expense of MontCo.
Lamont said that he would vote for both the Levin and the Kerry amendment - both amendments - some democrats did vote for both.
Joe Lieberman, didn't vote for either amendment and stood with the Rs. Earning all kinds of praise around the right-wing talk shows!!!
Lamont has made decisions previously that aren't the same as his position now, that's their point? Yeh, authentic is stretching for an ultimate goal, as is consistency. Find any political figure who's served any length of time who hasn't found one way to support something that in another bill they didn;t.
jurassicpork,
Thanks for the Frank rich article.
the lamont/leiberman debate has pitted progresives with gop-lite demcorats...and all the dem senators that are backing lieberman against a more progressive dem are gop-lite themselves - we ought to think hard on every one of those races - our dem party sucks because we have too many gop-lite dem senators in it
Ruth, blogger type
"the tragedy is that with good direction, training and proper equipment the soldiers who are disgracing us could have done the opposite."
Exactly! If one follows the money in the DoD purse, one would be surprised where the money is and where it isn't. And I'm not taking about armored vests either. I'm talking about the simpler things that we normally assume is available to use.
Vanden Heuvel '08 - Wow!! She is the best!!! She just slammed a wing-nut for trashing Move-on.org!
Lanny, Lanny, gotcha politics again. Hope you're getting lotsa $$ there.
'our dem party sucks'
No, mogwai, don't agree - even tho some of the individual members of it do.
'Poisonously' used is a good Vanden Heuvel characterisation of Rove.
'our dem party sucks'
No, mogwai, don't agree - even tho some of the individual members of it do.
Ruth,
the way i whitewash it is that our dem party is not an opposition to the fascism espoused by the gop, but rather a milder form of that fascism
russert to bush official: Does bush still think kim jong il is a pygmy, tyrant and spoiled child
blow dried blowhard: blah
mogwai, it's their ideals that bro't them to be Dems, fascism is an extremist characterisation of party loyalties that override ultimate objectives, and no, I don't agree.
Katrina 2x now pointing out the cabal is proclaiming democratic ideals while trying to squelch the very principles here that they say we want to bring to the ME. Good girl!
the way i whitewash it is that our dem party is not an opposition to the fascism espoused by the gop, but rather a milder form of that fascism
mogwai
we (the grass-roots/netroots) are the opposition party. We are forcing the opposition to BushCo.
the lamont/leiberman debate has pitted progresives with gop-lite demcorats...and all the dem senators that are backing lieberman against a more progressive dem are gop-lite themselves - we ought to think hard on every one of those races - our dem party sucks because we have too many gop-lite dem senators in it
mogwai
They are moderate Republicans with Ds after their names. Nothing "lite" about them.
anonymous, one of the damaging approaches was leading our soldiers to expect that [as they were liberators] they would be greeted with loving adoration. Thereby creating the myth that unfriendlies were terrists.
now that the blogwars are over:
Smile
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Thanks, Che Pasa - It's a wonderful song!!
we (the grass-roots/netroots) are the opposition party. We are forcing the opposition to BushCo.
portia
i agree that the netroots will ultimately help the progressive cause since it involves reading, searching and banter - all missing in the knee-jerk fundamental party platform of teh gop "god guns gays"
The war in Iraq is over. It's lost. It was lost in 2004. There was a window of time after the fall of Saddam, 6-12 months, when there might have been a chance of success, but probably not without many more peace-keeping troops from other countries, the U.N., NATO. We never had enough troops. It may have failed if we committed 500K. All that's happening now is face saving on the part of pols in both parties.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
As unlikely as it may seem now, the next few elections are about the war, stupid. Those pols who are continuing to support it, on either side, should be tossed out on their asses. Pronto.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
The Kray Twins?
pressthemeat, Garlucci, G'twn Foreign affairs rep - on the NK agreement that we threw over under this cabal. Noting that ongoing negotiations would have gotten farther than belligerency. For that matter, isn't our continued attempts to drop bombs on Saddam and missing its own refutation of the winger contention that Clinton could have gotten Osama by using the same intelligence and dropping a bomb on him. Showing Clinton had good sense, as well as superior principles, fellas.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
ah hah a namestealer or a glitch in haloscan.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
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'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
All that's happening now is face saving on the part of pols in both parties.
Anonymous
it's the american way
what is this, like 'nam in 72? and even to this day we have lobotomized elected officials who say that we won or could have won in 'nam - yet another way to know that reason is not respected in our times.
the whole 'saving-face' is bullshit cried by warhawks - even fucking murtha gets it now and he is a BIG military guy, but the stupidity and ignorance in murka will continue to 'back' that bullshit war, both dems and gopers...and that is a shame
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
nn
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
4 GIs charged in Iraq rape-slaying case
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
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'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution'b in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolutioon' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
The war in Iraq is over. It's lost. It was lost in 2004. There was a window of time after the fall of Saddam, 6-12 months, when there might have been a chance of success
Actually, it was a period of 90 days according to CSIS, sent by Rummy to assess the "post war" environment.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolutimon' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take tthe risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostille to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Crap, sorry for the busted AHREF. Well, at least I'm not namestealing Moon.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition witth nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with ttheir coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who derride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
moonbootica, your mom is delicious.
You mean NTodd doesn't make wacky statements? unbeliever.
Jeebus, the trolls are around 24/7.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decidedd to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homossexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Ah, there's NTodd, holowscum has it in for you.
Forza Azzurri!
it has to be the summer.
they all start crawling out of their rocks.
Go fuck yourself, namestealer.
Cause it's the only way you'll ever get fucked.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who derride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
and now for something completely different:
forza azzuri, forza italia!
currently watching the Wimbledon Men's Final
Nadal v Federer
should be a corker
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists whoo are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hosstile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coallition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
threadbot where art thou?
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brrothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Polish President's twin joins him in a power double act
In a move likely to outrage liberals, the brothers with plans for 'moral revolution' share the helm
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Unnion.
'We decided to take the risk and have a Prime Minister and President who are brothers,' said Jaroslaw, who will now be asked by his brother to form a new cabinet.
Wow, this thread is CRAAAAAAAZZY!
Wow, this thread is CRAAAAAAAZZY!
'Jeebus, the trolls are around 24/7.
ql in ny'
usually the daylight sends them back into their caves. Must be getting home from church, ready to take a sword to the heathens in the usual rightwing misapplication of principal.
Check trollie's ISP's TOS/AUP and fire off an email to their abuse@
It's probably using a bot, too.
Definitely a no-no.
Check trollie's ISP's TOS/AUP and fire off an email to their abuse@
It's probably using a bot, too.
Definitely a no-no.
Good morning.
my powerbook is dying.
think I'll listen to Billie Holiday music for the rest of the day.
Nine months after calling the idea unacceptable, Poland's ruling party yesterday made the identical Kaczynski twins the most powerful men in the country, naming Jaroslaw as Prime Minister to serve alongside the President, Lech, his junior by 45 minutes.
The move is likely to send shivers through liberals, who have decried the Kaczynskis' plans for a 'moral revolution' in Poland, along with their coalition with nationalists who deride homosexuals and populists who are hostile to the European Union.
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek
Oooooh, I see the basis for a wacky sitcom...
Gosh, remember when Atrios posted meaningful political commentary instead of insulting the people who click on his site for meaningful political commentary?
Now we get lectured in between pictures of his cats, meaningless inside-joke video links, and endless open threads. And invitations to send money, and get "Liberally" drunk, and to "inquire about special advertising opportunities."
Fuck this. It's insulting. I'm off to read better commentary written by people who respect their audience.
Duncan has officially jumped the shark, sold out, crossed the line, been co-opted by his own greed, read too many of his reviews. Whatever.
I miss MediaWhoresOnline. Hell, I miss Duncan from just a year ago, when he actually mattered.
You kids play nice. That last one out, please turn off the lights.
"Frist!" Who cares?
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