I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

whoo hoo


hot


And its PR0N not porn, you noob, artios. :P


May you burn in hell for that, Erin.


Gravataris it the first time we see the cats moving?


GravatarIs that Wiley? (It looks like the red chair).


GravatarPlum P -- I was just thinking something like that -- hard to believe they actually move, considering how zoned out they usually look!


GravatarAck. We have evidence of life.


GravatarWhat is this, the cat licks its balls or something?


GravatarÔ¿Ô


GravatarWas that cat bathing at me contemptuously?


GravatarI think its the opium water myself...

Mmm opium water, the closest thing you'll get to being under the earth.

Thats the tag line, its all mine. Go away now. Mine. Also, the pork.


GravatarThat's a lot of hard work, there...calls for a long nap, I'd say.


GravatarIt cracks me up to see Wiley on his back with those back paws curled up. He's a beautiful cat.


Gravatarwhat's the band playing in the backround?


GravatarI can only hope Wiley hocked a big ole hairball at Atrios.


GravatarSinging cat...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...=singing% 20cats


GravatarHell, putting your head between your head usualy calls for a nap no mater what species you are. Not that I would know about that...

>.>


GravatarNight, all.


GravatarNight, Steve Simels.


Gravataris it Broken Social Scene?


GravatarHas anyone heard from Jeffraham, or how he's doing recently?


GravatarNight, all.

steve simels


When the hell was he here?


GravatarHas anyone heard from Jeffraham, or how he's doing recently?
Sandy-LA 90034

he's still offline, trying to find a WI-Fi to pirate


GravatarI hope he's doing o.k. with his apartment and able to work at the proofreading job.


GravatarNow that is a very clean cat. As soon as Atrios isn't looking, though, he's going to gack up a hairball.


GravatarATRIOS! what is that song in the background please?


GravatarI have only two words to say to steve simels: mira furlan on lost.

OK, that is maybe is 5 or 6 words.


GravatarHecate,

How's the construction on the house behind you coming this summer? Is it driving you nuts or has it been bearable?


GravatarAm I wrong for quoting scripture? After all it proves our point.


GravatarAm I wrong for quoting scripture?

Absolutely not!


Gravatar ATRIOS! what is that song in the background please?
Plum P | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:02 am | #


Sorry, Plum P. I'm musically challenged. I don't even know what Power Pop is, although I've been meaning to check it out on NYMary's blog.


Gravatarsong was not deliberate, just playing in the background, but it's from a great local band called illumina.

At their website you can listen to the whole album stream for free.


GravatarOy, just winding down from my 14+ hour workday...

How's tricks, bats?


GravatarAt their website you can listen to the whole album stream for free.
Atrios

Merci! You're saving me from going mad trying to find what it was, good tip!


GravatarRorschach!

How are you?


Gravatarsong was not deliberate, just playing in the background

quite nice.


GravatarI feel so dirty.



Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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GravatarDigby wonders "if Uncle Karl is calculating that George the Pig Slicer will cause the GOP to lose seats in the fall if he doesn't appear to be helping his base achieve the Rapture. That's got me a little bit worried."

Yeah...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ commen...1195568,00.html

We can laugh at these people, but we should not dismiss them. That their beliefs are bonkers does not mean they are marginal. American pollsters believe that 15-18% of US voters belong to churches or movements which subscribe to these teachings. A survey in 1999 suggested that this figure included 33% of Republicans. The best-selling contemporary books in the US are the 12 volumes of the Left Behind series, which provide what is usually described as a "fictionalised" account of the Rapture (this, apparently, distinguishes it from the other one), with plenty of dripping details about what will happen to the rest of us. The people who believe all this don't believe it just a little; for them it is a matter of life eternal and death.

And among them are some of the most powerful men in America. John Ashcroft, the attorney general, is a true believer, so are several prominent senators and the House majority leader, Tom DeLay. Mr DeLay (who is also the co-author of the marvellously named DeLay-Doolittle Amendment, postponing campaign finance reforms) travelled to Israel last year to tell the Knesset that "there is no middle ground, no moderate position worth taking".

So here we have a major political constituency - representing much of the current president's core vote - in the most powerful nation on Earth, which is actively seeking to provoke a new world war. Its members see the invasion of Iraq as a warm-up act, as Revelation (9:14-15) maintains that four angels "which are bound in the great river Euphrates" will be released "to slay the third part of men". They batter down the doors of the White House as soon as its support for Israel wavers: when Bush asked Ariel Sharon to pull his tanks out of Jenin in 2002, he received 100,000 angry emails from Christian fundamentalists, and never mentioned the matter again.
Monty | 07.14.06 - 10:49 pm | #

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GravatarExhausted, Sandy.

And yourself?


GravatarI like the dismissive way in which he washes his head as if to end the video.


GravatarI read 'em daily. My favorite all-time post is where they claimed that the Devil had gotten into their computers...
Phila

well, that's really true. take for instance the debbie frisch post, or if that won't cut it, the NSA!

but long as i gets my kitty porn.

there will be a lot of reasons, but "they" will do what "they" can do, to shut it down. the internets is too much like tom paine on steroids.


GravatarErin, I hope you know I was just kiddin'....


GravatarRorschach,

It's been hot in L.A. (but probably not as muggy as where you are), so I guess I shouldn't complain.

Is that one of the reasons you're exhausted? (Heat)


GravatarOK, lets get back to basics. Matthew: 5-12 has to be some of the greatest words ever published anywhere.


GravatarKitties...

The poses in the pics in the earlier post are exactly those of my cats today. Heat's got 'em...

OT: Is anyone else bothered by Bush's total lack of involvement in the current Israel-Lebanon conflict.

I have a theory, which is mine, and which belongs to me...

Bush, Israel and Plausible Deniability.

Something is up.


GravatarOK, what is up with the Join Rudi's Team ad? I am not inclined to do so, but, should I click anyway?


Gravatar..and then I thought, I am sitting here, on a Friday night, watching a cat wash on video. And then I thought, computers have really changed my life.


Damn computers.


GravatarOh, and Hecate, did you ever get my explanation of why I support Bill Richardson?


Gravatar
Is that one of the reasons you're exhausted? (Heat)
Sandy-LA 90034 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:08 am | #


Nah, just work, really. Everything blew up there today.

Absolute mayhem, for hours on end.


Gravatar"Plausible Deniability"

is way too plausible for my comfort level.


GravatarEverything blew up there today

Software systems, or people?


GravatarBush's lack of involvement? LOL.


GravatarHow about Matthew 5:21 and 5:22?


GravatarO.K., guys -- forgive me some blogwhoring here (I don't know if haloscan will permit this):

21st Century Canaries
Buzzards flap their wings over Wall Street/Vultures, beaks wide open, snatch their share of profits/
Worker bees produce the honey/
The bottom line is the cutting edge
that downsizes thousands/and out sources the middle class’s jobs/
offshore to India and Asia.
The social fabric loomed/at the end of the Great Depression
slowly unravels. In the 21st century,
the coal miner’s canary/becomes the displaced worker whose breakdown/
swells the rolls of Social Security Disability.
Diane (who comments here) is coming to my poetry reading (or at least hopes to) tomorrow at Beyond Baroque here in Venice, CA. This will be the first time I've done this and look forward to it (not because I'm such a great poet, it's just something new and challenging to do).


GravatarDamn computers.
EkCenTriK

oh stop it, you love it!


Gravatar Everything blew up there today

Software systems, or people?
Doug, | 07.15.06 - 1:13 am | #


Mostly software.

And the publisher-that-shall-not-be-named decided to dump a list of re-dos on us--due by Monday, at 5 PM Friday. Hence my long day.

Plus, yeah, one of my employees was just about to have a nervous breakdown today too, requiring much careful handling...


Gravatar(not because I'm such a great poet, it's just something new and challenging to do).
Sandy-LA 90034

break a leg, or as we wish in french: merde


Gravatar"oh stop it, you love it!
Plum P"

Please leave me my pride.


GravatarHow about this?

If a tavern-keeper (feminine) does not accept corn according to gross weight in payment of drink, but takes money, and the price of the drink is less than that of the corn, she shall be convicted and thrown into the water.


GravatarMust sleep.

Good Night amd God Bless.


GravatarBush's lack of involvement? LOL.

I mean in the traditional sense, of course.

He can't even see fit to play the part of the concerned preznit.

But his flat-out announcement that he won't even talk to Israel is creepy.


GravatarNah, just work, really. Everything blew up there today.

Absolute mayhem, for hours on end.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:11 am | #


At least it's Friday, at last! (Or do you have to work the weekend, too?)


GravatarThey bombed lebanon's airport so no reporters would go there to give the other side of the story.

Israel must control the narrative. I wouldn't put it past them scouring old materials from iraq to make rockets with and blame the Iranians/Syria for their own damned false flags.

Reporters from israel had their connections "mysteriously cut off" several times today. Want to be they get delayed by the network unelss they stick to story lines?

Israel has become the new Swiss banking military proxy in this century.


GravatarSomething is up.
Stranger


It's really strange how everything leads to tin foil these days.


GravatarGood night, Hontlia.


GravatarHere is a picture of my new little kitten.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albu...ench/ kitten.jpg

Her name is kitten until I find another, or we may stay with that.


GravatarPlum P -- thanks. I was shocked that Diane said she'd try to make it. It's nice to have an Atriot for backup.


GravatarSomething to listen to while anticipating the rapture...

Zero 7 - Waiting to Die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...QE& search=Zero7


GravatarAt least it's Friday, at last! (Or do you have to work the weekend, too?)
Sandy-LA 90034 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:16 am | #


I fully expect to be awakened in a few hours by a phone call...


GravatarI need a hug. And a panda. And a pinguin. And a cat. And a tree. And some assembly?


GravatarI'm sick of hearing about downsizing. The UAW sold out in the '80s and invented the Reagan Republican. They got what they fucking deserved. Amerika gets what it deserves.


GravatarHer name is kitten until I find another, or we may stay with that.
Steve French | 07.15.06 - 1:17 am | #


How about Dahlia (for Black Dahlia)?


GravatarIt's really strange how everything leads to tin foil these days.

Mine has melted to my head at this point.


GravatarAnd may i recommend the new Mojave 3 cd. A more summery pop record than their usual americana sound. Lovely record from these ex-Slowdive. Their 5th!

http://www.myspace.com/mojave3official


GravatarOh yeah--

Friday catblogging! Witness Zora sulking incessantly because miriam's gone off to Germany!

My own sulking I prefer not to photograph.


Gravatar"Here is a picture of my new little kitten."

I refuse to click the link. I am going cold turkey here. No more pet pics. Period, my final decision.












Awwwww...


GravatarWheat and corn features rose dramatically. Boosh has fucked up the dep't of agricutlure and caused intentional supply crunches.

Coupled with the purposeful shorting of gas to build up an expensive winter and oil/gasoline to record highs.

George Bush laughing about grandma millie all the way to his bank.

Mike Huckabee has let Entergy do a price fixing contract with its own providers in LA and TX. Nice fucking deregulation side effect.


GravatarThe whole country needs to be fucking downsized. Its hubris, its appetites, its worship of Mammon, its fetishes...


GravatarMaybe some rope, some nice hemp rope.. *inhales* yup. *holds it*

*holds it*

*farts*

*exhales*

yes. The pinguin is going to need to be waxed as well. That is all.


GravatarIt's really strange how everything leads to tin foil these days.

I've switched to a lead foil hat myself.


GravatarHere's my dog Speeder today in the heat, doing the sensible thing.
http://static.flickr.com/72/ 1897...de36d368e_o.jpg


GravatarC-span2/BookTV on Saturday, July 15 at 3:10 pm Eastern

Green Parrots & Just War
Gino Strada and Howard Zinn

Dr. Gino Strada and historian Howard Zinn speak about their latest books at an event sponsored by Emergency http://www.emergencyusa.org , a humanitarian group that provides free medical care for civilian victims in war zones around the world. Dr. Strada, co-founder of Emergency, is the author of "Green Parrots," a diary of his experiences working in places like Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Somolia, and Sudan. During the event he talks about the civilian war victims he has encountered and argues for the need to abolish war as a means for settling disputes. Following that, Professor Zinn discusses the Bush administration's invasion and occupation of Iraq, the possibility of an attack on Iran, and the American public's appetite for war today. His latest book is titled "Just War." Both participants answer questions from audience members following their remarks. This event was held at the Immanuel Presbyterian Church in Los Angeles.

Gino Strada co-founded Emergency in Milan, Italy in 1994. Since that time Emergency has treated nearly 2 million civilian victims of war and landmines. Howard Zinn's books include "A People's History of the United States" and "Terrorism and War."
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=1637464
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GravatarActually, I think the various Atriot critters are what are keeping me sane in this crazy Alice-in-Wonderland world we live in.


Gravatar'I feel I have a special obligation to respond to your July 6 editorial, "Lieberman's run." I am a liberal activist. I was also Lieberman's roommate at Yale.'


"Dear penthouse, I usually never do this kind of thing, and have never written to tell others, but there was a prime kosher oiled ass bent over a loofa in my college dorm..."


GravatarFriday catblogging! Witness Zora sulking incessantly because miriam's gone off to Germany!

Those green eyes can't be good news.


GravatarHer name is kitten until I find another, or we may stay with that.
Steve French

oh she's adorable! How about Penelope?


GravatarHer name is kitten

Kitten Galore?
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GravatarI think you meant futures, not features.


GravatarFriday catblogging! Witness Zora sulking incessantly because miriam's gone off to Germany!

My own sulking I prefer not to photograph.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:19 am | #


At least you have the Atriots to sulk with. When is Miriam coming home?


Gravatarincog,
Of course I knew you were kidding.


GravatarI got a call today from the DNC. They were looking for a donation and they had someone doing matching funds or something.

I told the very nice guy on the other end of the phone that I was upset with the Democratic party right now. He said flat out - "Joe Lieberman"? I burst out laughing - I asked him if he was getting a lot of that and he said "yes".


GravatarFriday catblogging! Witness Zora sulking incessantly because miriam's gone off to Germany!
My own sulking I prefer not to photograph.
rorschach

i knew you would not let us down, even if on the east coast, friday catblogging is actually over. But merci Ro!


Gravatarbecause miriam's gone off to Germany!

And why is your nekid wif off to Germany?


GravatarThose green eyes can't be good news.
Snow, Aspirational Despot | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:21 am | #


Indeed.

When is Miriam coming home?
Sandy-LA 90034 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:23 am | #


This coming Wednesday, at long last!


GravatarThanks, Mr. Murder. I'm gonna have nightmares tonight for sure.


GravatarI think coming to this blog is keeping me insane.


GravatarHow about Dahlia (for Black Dahlia)?

She's much lighter than she appears in the picture, (stupid camera phone).

Even though she's been here for less than a week she's made herself at home. My older cat Abby is obviously confused and distraught.


GravatarThis coming Wednesday, at long last!
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:24 am | #


GOOD! Hang in there, buddy!


GravatarI told the very nice guy on the other end of the phone that I was upset with the Democratic party right now. He said flat out - "Joe Lieberman"? I burst out laughing - I asked him if he was getting a lot of that and he said "yes".
portia |

that's brilliant!


Gravatargood night, crazy people, Im off to pick herbs, decend into the depths of the earth to crush the general of the elemental fire lords in their bid to take over the world, then... take a grunt, commit random brutal acts of videoislamomichellemalkinterroristfacism, the order might change someplace in there...


GravatarYou are more than welcome, Plum!


And why is your nekid wif off to Germany?
Snow, Aspirational Despot | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:24 am | #


nekid? Wha?

She went for the World Cup. Plus, she lived in Berlin for four years, and is German, with much family there.


GravatarI think coming to this blog is keeping me sane.

Fixed your typo for you.


GravatarLieberman does dress up role playing at home. Wifey straps on her lobbystick and Joe puts on hairplugs to play bend ovah Biden.


GravatarIf a tavern-keeper (feminine) does not accept corn according to gross weight in payment of drink, but takes money, and the price of the drink is less than that of the corn, she shall be convicted and thrown into the water.
Doug


Doug, I just gotta pry about this. Did I miss something on an earlier thread? (Bad weather came through, then "House" was on...my bad).

WTF is this about, and what was the penalty for male tavernkeepers who shorted the customers on their cornweight?

Inquiring minds, etc.


GravatarBush refuses to press Israel for truce
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...n_go_pr_wh/ bush
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia - President Bush refused to press Israel for a cease-fire in Mideast violence Friday, risking a wider breach with world leaders at a weekend summit already confronting crises with Iran and North Korea.

Flying here from Germany, Bush called the leaders of Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan to explore ways to end three days of furious fighting between Israel and Hezbollah militants in Lebanon. Turning aside complaints that Israel is using excessive force, Bush rejected a cease-fire plea from Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora.

"The president is not going to make military decisions for Israel," White House press secretary Tony Snow said. He said it was unlikely that either side would agree to a cease-fire now.

The eruption of Mideast violence moved prominently onto the agenda of the summit beginning Saturday.

In contrast with Bush's stand, Russian President Vladimir Putin said, "No hostage-takings are acceptable ... but neither is the use of full-scale force in response to these, even if unlawful, actions. We will demand that all sides involved in the conflict immediately stop the bloodshed."


Gravatar This coming Wednesday, at long last!
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:24 am | #

GOOD! Hang in there, buddy!
Sandy-LA 90034 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:25 am | #


Yeah, I just have to make sure all the hookers clear out by then.


Gravatarnekid? Wha?

Hey, you photographed her in the tub, not me, pal.


GravatarMy older cat Abby is obviously confused and distraught.
Steve French | 07.15.06 - 1:24 am | #


I had a two-years old Siamese male cat when I brought a kitten home to keep him company. He went bananas at first, then licked the kitten all over, as though claiming it for his own, and allowed the little cat to "nurse" for the next six months or so. These were my first cats and that startled me and cracked me up. (I'm NOT making this up.).


GravatarShe went for the World Cup. Plus, she lived in Berlin for four years, and is German, with much family there.
rorschach

i.hate.her. First she get to go the the World Cup. Second she's got you. GRRR!


Gravatar"Joe puts on hairplugs to play bend ovah Biden." *





*insert MBNA reference here.(Literally) Littorally?


GravatarYeah, I just have to make sure all the hookers clear out by then.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:27 am | #


Yeah, right! Like we (or Miriam) would believe THAT!


Gravataroh she's adorable! How about Penelope?

Ex's mother's name, but thanks for the suggestion.


Gravatarsithson: bonne nuit


GravatarHas anyone seen my special friend?


GravatarPlum P,

We're not alone in expressing our displeasure with Lieberman and the Democraats on the hill who support him!! There are many on the hill who hope he loses and Ned Lamont gets elected to the Senate, too.


Gravatarthen "House" was on...

That was an old one. Still enjoyable, tho.

I always tell my wife, 'Don't ever check me into that hospital!'

The only thing that bugs me about 'House' is that every patient has like 50 things go worng and they almost die, every show.


GravatarTime to go beddy bye. L8R!


GravatarEx's mother's name, but thanks for the suggestion.
Steve French

not good!

Annette? Charlotte? Geneviève?


Gravatari.hate.her. First she get to go the the World Cup. Second she's got you. GRRR!
Plum P | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:27 am | #


You're a sweetheart. (And to add to your ire--she went to the 2002 Cup in Seoul, too!)

Hey, you photographed her in the tub, not me, pal.
Snow, Aspirational Despot | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:27 am | #


Heh, oh yeah, that...

Yeah, right! Like we (or Miriam) would believe THAT!
Sandy-LA 90034 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:28 am | #


Cool! My plan is working perfectly!


GravatarGood night you too, plum. Says, my inner frenchman/woman struggling to break free the reigns of the world.


GravatarBush refuses to press Israel for truce
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...0...n_go_pr_wh/ bush
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia - President Bush refused to press Israel for a cease-fire in Mideast violence Friday, risking a wider breach with world leaders at a weekend summit already confronting crises with Iran and North Korea.


If Chimpy tried to force Israel to scale back, the fundies would all be howling mad.


GravatarHontlia, the greatest verse ever describes the average liberal Man!

Ezekiel 23.20


GravatarHere's an interesting kos post, which the all powerful one who controls all our thoughts suggested that I link to...

Another Version of Journalistic Courage
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl.../7/15/035/ 31592


GravatarThe only thing that bugs me about 'House' is that every patient has like 50 things go worng and they almost die, every show.

That's why I like it when they cut to occasional scenes of House meeting with the ordinary patients (like the woman who got birth control pills confused with cold medication because her daughter was pulling a snow-job on her). Reminds you that House is there to tackle the oddballest cases in the area, which lends a bit of plausbility to the "50 things wrong" motif. A bit is enough, anyway.


GravatarA friend emailed this picture to me today.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albu...nch/ bushito.jpg

Fair warning, it's somewhat disturbing.


GravatarCool! My plan is working perfectly!
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:30 am | #




Hope you're beginning to relax and wind down after today.


GravatarThe Rapture must proceed to placate Bush's base...


GravatarYeah, I just have to make sure all the hookers clear out by then.

Your wifes going to be mad if you don't share at least one.


GravatarThe only thing that bugs me about 'House' is that every patient has like 50 things go worng and they almost die, every show.
Stranger

and evry show it's the same pattern: they get it wrong (9:10 pm), then a bit right (9:25), then wrong again(9:35), and finally they cure the patient(9:50). But i love monsieur Hugh Laurie


Gravatarpreviously pre,

'House' is mandatory viewing here.

When I have the odd Friday gig, I get pissed that I won't be able to watch it.


GravatarYour wifes going to be mad if you don't share at least one.
Doug, | 07.15.06 - 1:33 am | #


Yeah, I'll save back a couple, and explain away the rest as "test drives."

Hope you're beginning to relax and wind down after today.
Sandy-LA 90034 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:32 am | #


Gettin' there, thanks to the likes of you.


GravatarBut i love monsieur Hugh Laurie
Plum P | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:34 am | #


Me, too! And to think he used to play the butler (?) in that British series (darn -- the name escapes me). He was great in that too.


GravatarBut i love monsieur Hugh Laurie
Plum P | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:34 am | #


He is the HOT!


GravatarIf Chimpy tried to force Israel to scale back, the fundies would all be howling mad.

I'm really starting wonder if what the Israelies are doing is part of a plan to justify an American attack on Iran.


GravatarSnow: à demain!


GravatarAnnette? Charlotte? Geneviève?

Charlotte would be good, charley for short...

We'll try it on.


GravatarGettin' there, thanks to the likes of you.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:34 am | #




Cool!


GravatarIn 1969 a crazed Aussie tourist who happened to be a member of the Amerikan Evangelical Church of God, tried to burn down the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem to clear the way for the new Temple. This was the prototype of what was to come. Bush is one of these people. Ashcroft is one of these people. If they're doing it right in front of your eyes its not a conspiracy. The shame is on you as much as it is on them for letting it happen. The uneasy alliance between these misguided souls and Zionists must resisted by God fearing peoples of all religions. It is no joke.


GravatarSeriously, though. This can't be healthy hyper knowing all what's going on and the tin foil hat speculating about the rest.


GravatarThe only thing that bugs me about 'House' is that every patient has like 50 things go worng and they almost die, every show.
Stranger


Heya stranger, long time no type at. I just got turned on to "House" a couple of months ago and am trying to catch up with the doubles-on-Tuesday plus Friday nights, so all of them are new to me.

Actually my usual complaint is the reverse, that they get people in with weirdo/coincidental symptoms, very nearly kill them with wrong treatments at least 4 times per ep, then brilliantly/accidentally figure out what's really wrong and a miraculous cure is achieved. This is the first one I can remember where the patient actually croaked.

Oh, wait a minute. I just reread what you said and that's pretty much it. Never mind.

Writing wasn't as good as usual though. *grump*

BTW I would go off to read your "something is happening here" post but it sounds depressing and I am already weighted enough in that direction tonight as it is. Will check tomorrow if we haven't been blown to hell by that time and I get perkier.


GravatarInquiring minds, etc.


Xan,
Since people were posting biblical links I thought it apropos to post something (I believe #100) from the Hammurabi code.
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/CODE.HTM


GravatarMe, too! And to think he used to play the butler (?) in that British series (darn -- the name escapes me). He was great in that too.
Sandy-LA 90034 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:35 am | #


Fawlty Towers?


GravatarC-span, 4:05 am Eastern
News Conference
CIA Leak Suit
National Press Club
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)

Wilson, Joseph Acting Ambassador (1990-1991), United States, Iraq
Chemerinsky, Erwin Professor, Duke University, Law School
Wilson, Valerie Plame Analyst (Fmr.), Central Intelligence Agency

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GravatarJeeves!


GravatarI'm really starting wonder if what the Israelies are doing is part of a plan to justify an American attack on Iran.

I think it's war by proxy.

Israel requested a purchase $120 million worth of jet fuel from us today.

Should be enough to get them around the Arabian Peninsula, no?

Dammit, this tin foil is tight...


GravatarWhen I have the odd Friday gig, I get pissed that I won't be able to watch it.

I am a pre-TV previously pre, and plan to remain so indefinitely, but I have seen a handful of episodes. It always seems to be on when I visit my other-of-significance, who strikes me as very similar tempermentally to the female deuterolead on the show (and felt complimented when I said so).


GravatarSteve French,

More than somewhat disturbing, I'd say.


GravatarI'm really starting wonder if what the Israelies are doing is part of a plan to justify an American attack on Iran.

Of course it is.


GravatarBush is one of these people.

Personally, I think Bush pretends to an evangelical Christian to con the suckers.


GravatarNOT!!! (My bad1) He played Bertie Wooster, the playboy!

Boy, the memory is going.....


GravatarNo, it was Blackadder.


GravatarSo, how's that whole bringing-peace-and-freedom-to-the-Middle-East thing working out for you, Georgie?


GravatarA friend of mine, who is quite astute, although no intellectual, summed up what is going on Israel right now with Gaza and with Lebanon quite nicely: "Israel knows it has the United States' unconditional backing, so it can get away with whatever it wants."

Yep.

He went on to say that with the power of he Jewish lobby behind them here in the United States, the Israelies can do no wrong in U.S. eyes.

I would have liked to have added that it is also the fundy-wacko Christian lobby that is in that mix.

With respect to my friend's original statement, it was the United States that (yesterday?) once again exercised its Security Council veto power to stop a U.N. resolution condemning Israel's actions.

Noam Chomsky has spoken quite eloquently about how, over the years, whenever the international community through the U.N. has moved to censure Israel for this or that outrage, such international moves have always been obstructed by the U.S.


GravatarHeya, Xan,

Hope all's well with you, besides the down-ness...

The post is just idle speculation, since I ain't ready to go to sleep yet.

And the food network is running a special on ice cream! Yum!


GravatarJeeves and Bertie, if I recall the title correctly.

And Hugh was Bertie Wooster, the upper class twit, loked after by Jeeves, his butler.


GravatarSince people were posting biblical links I thought it apropos to post something (I believe #100) from the Hammurabi code.
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/CODE.HTM
Doug


Ah, so. [sucks air through teeth, clasps hands together covered by silk sleeves, bows in Doug's direction]


And SteveFrench, I was going to say the cat should be named Ishtar Tutunkhamen, but upon reflection "Hammurabi" has a certain ring to it as well. Very Egyptian-looking feline imho so something along those lines might be considered?


GravatarSo, how's that whole bringing-peace-and-freedom-to-the-Middle-East thing working out for you, Georgie?
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:40 am | #


I thought you were gonna ask about the pig!

Heh heh.

Heh.


GravatarJust exactly how fucked are we?


GravatarMonsieur Hugh Laurie impressive CV

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0491402/


GravatarIt's seems to be playing out like I feared last year when I mentioned the Jesus Factor. That's when the bombs--whichever type-- are let loose. If Jayzus didn't want them to fly, according to the Jesus Factor, he would intervene and neutralize them--no kidding, that's what they believe.


GravatarC-span, Sat. 11:45 pm Eastern
Online Media & the Future of Journalism
Slate.com
New York Public Library, Humanities and Social Sciences Library

Pearlstine, Norman Editor in Chief (1995-2005), Time, Inc.
Gladwell, Malcolm Staff Writer, [New Yorker] Magazine
Kinsley, Michael Founding Editor, Slate.com
Weisberg, Jacob Editor, Slate.com
Huffington, Arianna S. Co-Founder, Huffingtonpost.com

http://inside.c- spanarchives.org...ecord=546762969
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GravatarAh well, I'm all wrong about Hugh Laurie!


GravatarPersonally, I think Bush pretends to an evangelical Christian to con the suckers.

It's like the mythical Quakers of yore. Everyone's a pretender to con all the other pretenders, and everyone in the game has a high enough trait anxiety level to facilitate a level of genuine self-dupery. I call it self-dupery instead of conviction because in my experience such folks tend to actively seek out new and crazier ways to hammer their thinking and acting further along the bent.

The "Jesus wants Terry Schiavo to drink some water" event is just one example; I near-guarantee you it was the result of heavy contemplation on the parents' part as to how to bend further along the bent trajectory.


GravatarSome critics saw Bertie Wooster, here portrayed by Hugh Laurie in ITV's Jeeves and Wooster series, as detrimental to the worldwide image of the British young man.

Hugh Laurie was GREAT has Bertie Wooster. The books were very funny, too. Although written by an American, I believe. (P.G. Wodehouse -- ah, memory returns!)


GravatarIf Jayzus didn't want them to fly, according to the Jesus Factor, he would intervene and neutralize them--no kidding, that's what they believe.
Ô¿Ô | 07.15.06 - 1:42 am | #


The funniest thing I ever saw was a fundamentalist man get punched by some high-spirited young woman (I think accidentally) -- he tried to pass it off as a lesson in humility straight from Jesus, without actually acting more humble.


GravatarI thought you were gonna ask about the pig!


Goddess, what must the Europeans think of us?


GravatarHecate,

Hope all is going well with the construction on the house behind yours? Not too much noise all the time?


GravatarNoam Chomsky has spoken quite eloquently about how, over the years, whenever the international community through the U.N. has moved to censure Israel for this or that outrage, such international moves have always been obstructed by the U.S.
Sperm Donor


Er, we didn't need Chomsky to tell us that...


GravatarHope all is going well with the construction on the house behind yours? Not too much noise all the time?

Oh, they haven't started, yet. I'm not sure what the hold-up is, but I'm enjoying it!!


GravatarBush is one of these people.

Personally, I think Bush pretends to an evangelical Christian to con the suckers.
Richard | 07.15.06 - 1:38 am | #

I think so too. His true "god" is crony capitalism for himself, his family, and his families rich allies. In other words, $$$$$$$.

Come to think of it, I suspect that is also true "god" of most of the fundy "Christian" leaders (e.g., Reed, Robertson, Fallwell, LaHaye, etc.) It is only most of their stupid and naive followers that have any real semblance of sincerity when it comes to evangelical beliefs.


GravatarGood -- every peaceful moment a blessing!


Gravatareye-candy for the ladies and gentlegays among us: Brad Pitt today down in New-Orleans saving architecture (and the world, send him to Lebanon please)

http://dlisted.blogspot.com/2006...ew- orleans.html


GravatarEx-Bush Aide Fatally Shoots Son, Himself
Gunfire at McLean Home Followed Fight With Wife

By Tom Jackman and Stephanie McCrummen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, July 15, 2006; B01

A former Bush administration official, after arguing violently with his wife Thursday night, shot and killed his 12-year-old son inside their McLean home, then turned a shotgun on himself and committed suicide, Fairfax County police said.

William H. Lash III, 45, was an assistant secretary of commerce from 2001 until last year, then returned to teach at George Mason University Law School in Arlington, where he had begun as a professor in 1994. His wife, Sharon K. Zackula, fled the house before the shootings, and police said yesterday they were not sure what ignited the murder-suicide in a first-floor bedroom.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...1400502_pf.html

The scandal-plagued Bush administration.
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GravatarI think it's war by proxy.

For the moment. Ultimately, Bush is going to want to get the US directly involved. The "war president" desperately wants another "Mission Accomplished" photo-op to take the place of the one the Iraqis spoiled for him. I think the Israelis are trying to set the stage for a "Gulf of Tonkin" type incident that provokes Iran and/or Syria into a direct attack on Israel which will then allow the US to justify jumping in.


GravatarNoam Chomsky has spoken quite eloquently about how, over the years, whenever the international community through the U.N. has moved to censure Israel for this or that outrage, such international moves have always been obstructed by the U.S.

Noam Chomsky speaks rather eloquently about the facts and rather polemically about interpreting those facts. He's better with using his neck and eyebrows provocatively than Stone Phillips, though.


GravatarI just got here ti find Atrios is pimping out his cats. Oh, the humanity...

Bastard!


GravatarGoddess, what must the Europeans think of us?
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 1:44 am | #


Moron Bush joking about a pig? Check.

Asshole Bolton sent to the UN? Check.

Gitmo abuse general nominated to run NATO? Check.

All is well.


GravatarI'm really starting wonder if what the Israelies are doing is part of a plan to justify an American attack on Iran.
Richard


*Ding ding ding*! We have a weiner...with the caveat that it is both Iran and Syria, but attacks executed in reverse order.

The blame game was clearly laid out in McCain's statement today. And they even cranked out an oldie-but-goodie with that "mysterious drone aircraft/missle" that "attacked" the Israeli gunboat which was shelling the Beirut airport. This is in the Department of I Can't Believe They Think We're So Stupid AND Forgetful That We'd Fall Fort It This Time" because wasn't that one of Sadaam's WMD's?

But of course they're already set up for this, because the subterranian drumbeat has never let up among the True Believer contingent that Sadaam Had WMDs All Along But He Smuggled Them To Syria And Iran.

Oy. I shoulda just gone to Stranger's joint and read his paranoid rantings instead of coming up with my own.


Gravatar". . . and police said yesterday they were not sure what ignited the murder-suicide in a first-floor bedroom."

Here's a possible explanation: Right-wingers are a bunch of dysfunctional loons.


GravatarOh, the humanity...

Oh, the felininity. Meeeow.


GravatarEx-Bush Aide Fatally Shoots Son, Himself

but guns don't kill people, ...(etc)


Gravatarevery peaceful moment a blessing!

Absolutely.


Gravatar"Hammurabi" has a certain ring to it as well. Very Egyptian-looking feline imho so something along those lines might be considered?

"Hammu" for short?

That could work... She's a rough-and-tumble sort though, I've got the scratched and swollen hands to prove it.


Gravatarbut guns don't kill people, ...(etc)

No, but the sure do kill corrupt bastard politicians


GravatarWell, folks, I'm off to bed a bit early. Hope you all get a good night's rest (you, too, Rorschach!)

Check back later this weekend.

Take care!


Gravatar'Night, Sandy. Sleep well!


GravatarActually, you got it wrong. Iran is the one duping Israel and the US.


GravatarIran is rolling Israel like a drunk.


Gravatarbut guns don't kill people, ...(etc)

Guns don't kill people, Bush aides kill people?

Or, "Guns don't kill people, technically. Neither does AIDS."


GravatarTake care!
Sandy-LA 90034

you too! à la prochaine


GravatarTake care!
Sandy-LA 90034

you too! à la prochaine


Gravatarin case you didn't see this- via Buzzflash:
Jon Stewart's funny bit on Ted Stevens


GravatarThe murder-suicide involved an autistic kid.

That could have placed undue pressure on both parents, depending upon the level of autism.

Just sayin'


Gravatar"Guns don't kill people, technically. Neither does AIDS."

True, actually. The only thing that kills people is lack of oxygen to the brain. Caused, of course, by things like gunshots, etc.


Gravatar"Be excellent to each other"

More people should worship at the alter of Bill and Ted. It's hard to hate someone when they're being kind to you.


Gravataris it the first time we see the cats moving?
Plum P


hmmm...has anybody else noticed that Wiley kind of looks like a sea otter?


GravatarThe scandal-plagued Bush administration.
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QuentinCompson

The serious nutcase-plagued Bush administration.......


GravatarThe Bush plagued world.


Gravatara nightmare waiting to happen

http://rawstory.com/ showoutartic...FD8IRVD0O2.html

(please no, i wont survive another republican president)


GravatarAnother favorite Bible verse, useful against those who quote Leviticus concerning homosexuality:

Deuteronomy 23:13 (King James Version)
13 And thou shalt have a paddle upon thy weapon; and it shall be, when thou wilt ease thyself abroad, thou shalt dig therewith, and shalt turn back and cover that which cometh from thee:


"Right, you God Bothering bastard! Where's YOUR crap-burying shovel! GOD COMMANDS THAT YOU HAVE A CRAP BURYING SHOVEL!"

"And if you're gonna quote Leviticus, you know full well that cutting your hair and shaving are FORBIDDEN BY GOD!"

"GREAT JEHOVAH! Smite thee down this heretic for ignoring Your most HOLY COMMANDS!"

So far, ol' Jahway has yet to smite any of these God Botherers that come to my door.

On the other hand, after a few full-throated rants, they never come back.


GravatarTrue, actually. The only thing that kills people is lack of oxygen to the brain. Caused, of course, by things like gunshots, etc.

I like that quote for precisely that reason. Either assertion is true only in some useless technical sense, and both assertions have no practical value for determining appropriate policies.

Although I still haven't seen research that shows high levels of gun control has a positive impact on crime rates et cetera. It's kind of a non-issue for me.


GravatarThe murder-suicide involved an autistic kid.

That could have placed undue pressure on both parents, depending upon the level of autism.

Just sayin'
Stranger

Stranger, I may be wrong, but I believe there are signifigant #s of people who have autistic and otherwise challenged kids who do not resort to murder.

eh?


GravatarGoddess, what must the Europeans think of us?
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed


A friend from Hungary told me about a academic talk he attended that analyzed the varieties of anti-Americanism.

oh my.


GravatarThe scandal-plagued Bush administration.
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QuentinCompson


Holy crap. Why can't these people ever just shoot themselves if they want out that bad? Always gotta take some innocent--dear Goddess, a 12 year old boy?--with them. Unless the child had some hideous illness one tends to assume it was a punish-the-wife scenario. I bet it worked too.


GravatarOnce again we have reason to rejoice that Al Gore took the time to invent the internet...


Gravatar(please no, i wont survive another republican president)
Plum P


Yikes.

I don't think the world can take another republican president.


Gravatarwell, WE fucked Hungary over quite a long time ago, and I doubt their memories are as short as our own...


GravatarSea otters?

http://video.google.com/videopla...082& q=sea+otter


Gravatar"Right, you God Bothering bastard! Where's YOUR crap-burying shovel! GOD COMMANDS THAT YOU HAVE A CRAP BURYING SHOVEL!"



Hey, it was useful advice for its audience. It would be nice if God would stop by and tell us what to do with all the garbage-waste we're accumulating. Oh wait...

I guess landfills are YHWH-approved?

(Of course, sincere Christians don't pay much attention to Leviticus as more than a historical document).


GravatarNo one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord. (Deuteronomy 23:2)


GravatarLong day Friday and a long one Saturday.

I'm tired.

And so to bed!

And unlike Scooter and Cheney and John Does 1 through 10, I'll sleep very well tonight.

Very well, indeed!


Gravatarone tends to assume it was a punish-the-wife scenario. I bet it worked too

Since he'd apparently just had a fight w/ his wife, I'd assume so. What nice, stable people wind up working for the Bush junta.


Gravatarwell there's at least one excellent journalist in Lebanon

http://www.independent.co.uk/


Gravatarbye Chris


GravatarOf course, sincere Christians don't pay much attention to Leviticus as more than a historical document).
previously pre




Pre, they sure do that Leviticus thing when they're justifyin' hatin' on Teh Gay though don't they? I love it when they do this while chowing down at Red Lobster after just coming back from the barbershop. And probably not carrying their Crap Burying Shovels either.


GravatarStranger, I may be wrong, but I believe there are signifigant #s of people who have autistic and otherwise challenged kids who do not resort to murder.

eh?


Sarah, Of course, you're correct.

Although some people exhaust their ability to cope - not to the point of murder most of the time. But there is a lot of stress involved. especially if there are other things wrong in the family.

I think Hecate's 'punish the wfie' scenario is probably closer to it.

Poor kid.


GravatarHi Plum P. what music would brighten up the night?


GravatarHi Sarah Deere--Nthing spesial to say, other than you've been kind to me

Here's something to say, a bit of wordplay. As regards Glenn Reynolds, not since Einstein's autopsy has the phrase "Absent minded professor" been so literal.


GravatarMephisto is on TCM now.


GravatarSorry. Xan's 'punish the wife' scenario.

Maybe it's time for bed, after all.


GravatarJesus speaks to his apostles...

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36)


GravatarGrrr--try "Nothing special"--typo prone Draco


GravatarThere's a huge difference between a "pig" and a "boar"... intentional belittling? A stab at "Old Europe"?
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Gravataris it the first time we see the cats moving?

No, we had funny video of Gizmo purring and making muffins on a pile of laundry some months back.


GravatarThis guy is a DOCTOR?????

NYT:“But I am dyslexic, and that is the reason why there are inconsistencies in my testimony,” he said. “That’s why there are inconsistencies in what I call drugs. I can make these mistakes, but it’s not medically crucial in the type of work I do as a surgeon.”


GravatarFriday Night Video Roundup...


GravatarNo one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord. (Deuteronomy 23:2)
Richard


huh - concerns about eunuchs?


GravatarRorschach, you still around? You've got mail.


GravatarWhosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery. -- Mark 10:11


Hell of a lot of adulterers in the USA by that definition.


GravatarFuck, I can't get the video to load. That's really, really irritating.

Oh well, at least I've got a live kitty here.


GravatarGeoduck, did you listen to that stuff I sent you? Any thoughts?


GravatarNYT:“But I am dyslexic, and that is the reason why there are inconsistencies in my testimony,” he said.

I'm dyslexic but my speaking or memory isn't affected, only my writing.


GravatarRichard--Your Jesus quote is one of the reasons I've never liked the distinctions between so-called Christians and the true Christians.

Thhey're all crap, and I have no faith or tolerance


GravatarNo one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord. (Deuteronomy 23:2)
Richard


To say nothing of tattoos and pierced ears.


GravatarI would really like to see the Wiley video.

I feel so cheated.


GravatarRorschach, you still around? You've got mail.
Phila | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:12 am | #


I am, and I'll check it out!


Gravatarwell, WE fucked Hungary over quite a long time ago, and I doubt their memories are as short as our own...
Sarah Deere


The bush admin., according to my friend, is much disliked -- so much that the varieties of negative responses to this administration are now academically interesting.


GravatarHi Plum P. what music would brighten up the night?
Doug

well i posted a Mojave 3 link up thread, and maybe some spliff music? So here is King Biscuit Time (AKA Steve Mason, ex-Beta Band)

http://profile.myspace.com/ index...iendID=35180610


Gravatar daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law...(Matthew 10:34-36)
Richard


It took an incarnation of a Deity (or relative thereof) to pull this off??

[applause of a sardonic nature from the darkened corner table of the nightclub]




GravatarGeoduck, did you listen to that stuff I sent you? Any thoughts?
Phila


oh - I brought it with me on a short trip we took up to wisconsin, but we never plugged in our c/d.

I'm looking forward to listen to it!

But I always forget to listen to music.


GravatarI'm dyslexic but my speaking or memory isn't affected, only my writing.

I'm dyslexic and my writing isn't affected at all. My only symptom is a complete inability to tell my left from my right (crazy, but true- I remember by looking at the hand I write with) and an irritating inability to recall names.

Names of very close friends or relatives. When they're standing right next to me. My friends are used to it, but it's embarrassing. For some reason my brain can't access the information.


GravatarI would really like to see the Wiley video.

I feel so cheated.


The plot's ok but the action is a little thin... I'm hoping the sequel "Wiley and Gizmo sleep on the sofa" makes up for it.


GravatarRichard--Your Jesus quote is one of the reasons I've never liked the distinctions between so-called Christians and the true Christians.

I must be in an especially contentious mood tonight, 'cause I usually stay out of stuff like this...but the bit about the sword is very unlikely to be literal. The point is that people who follow Jesus are going to have to give up some worldly attachments and suffer through all sorts of conflicts. Tolstoy's "Resurrection" goes into a fair amount of practical detail on this.


GravatarNew York, New York, a hell of a town. The Bronx is up, but the Battery's down
Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:17 am | #


GravatarMaxx looks too good, it's not fair for the other kitties


Gravatarspliff music? A more modern type of Regae music?


GravatarThe bush admin., according to my friend, is much disliked -- so much that the varieties of negative responses to this administration are now academically interesting.

Ha!

I'll bet. People the world over have probably invented new and unique ways of cursing his name.


GravatarI would really like to see the Wiley video.

I feel so cheated.
fourlegsgood


Well - here's short description!

Wiley is hanging out on his back - and he looks like a little sea otter with his paws in the air.


GravatarBut I always forget to listen to music.
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 2:17 am | #


Yeah, same here.

Though you're missing out on that magnum opus of clitorigraphia, "The Boy In the Boat"...


GravatarMaxx looks too good, it's not fair for the other kitties

Oh, I don't know. There are lots of nice looking kitties about. Wiley and Gizmo are both quite handsome, and Barry's two kitties are downright beautiful.


GravatarAtrios + Youtube = mc^2

Just waiting for the inspectors.
Good luck with that.


GravatarRichard--Your Jesus quote is one of the reasons I've never liked the distinctions between so-called Christians and the true Christians.

One term that gets tossed around is "salad bar Christian". Fundamentalist or liberal, I think they are all salad bar Christians, picking and choosing what parts of the Bible they want to believe and rationalizing away the parts they'd rather ignore.


GravatarIs Crooks and Liars gonna be bitter? That seemed to be his main Raison d'whatever. Happy Bastille Day!!


GravatarI'm dyslexic and my writing isn't affected at all. My only symptom is a complete inability to tell my left from my right (crazy, but true- I remember by looking at the hand I write with) and an irritating inability to recall names.

4legs,

I cannot spell. I'm just horrible at it. I mean - I got D's and F's on spelling tests in elementary school.

When I learning to type, for some reason I began to spell a little better.

I also can't recall names, but I'm good with faces.


GravatarWhen I got home tonight I worked out. And as usual I ended by doing many crunches.

Maxx has decided he likes to help. Which he does by helpfully laying on my chest to increase my resistance.

And pawing at my face while he purrrs. I always end up laughing hysterically. It would make a funny video. Except that I don't have a video camera or anyone to film us.

You'll have to take my word for it.


GravatarSo are the Psalms the sneeze guard?


Gravataryo you expect to be taken seriously with cat porn?

wtf?


GravatarOh, I don't know. There are lots of nice looking kitties about. Wiley and Gizmo are both quite handsome, and Barry's two kitties are downright beautiful.
fourlegsgood | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:20 am | #


Great, now I've got three insulted kitties in the house with me!


Gravatarspliff music? A more modern type of Regae music?
Doug

nah, just good music to smoke pot too (cause they don't put us in jail for 20 years when you smoke pot in canada)

this is the other half of the Beta Band, The Aliens.

http://www.myspace.com/thealiens1

i'm flying, i'm flying!


Gravataran irritating inability to recall names.

Is that what this is called?
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I may not have this as bad as you, but though if I've ever seen a person in the past I'll recognize their face I generally can not remember their name, other than a fairly small set of these faces. (100 to 1,000 maybe on a good day?) It was real problem with a former job I had as a field rep for a company on the west coast. How'd I cope? Notebooks with copious info written down. Look at the cheat sheet before seeing clients did the trick.


GravatarI think they are all salad bar Christians, picking and choosing what parts of the Bible they want to believe and rationalizing away the parts they'd rather ignore.

When you start with a source filled to the brim with contradictions that's not too surprising, is it?


GravatarI also can't recall names, but I'm good with faces.

Well, this isn't your garden variety "not being able to remember names" thingee.

This is more like I spend the day with my best friend, maybe going to a ball game or something, and we run into another friend, and I turn to introduce my best friend to him.... and I can't remember his name. It's just flat out weird.


Gravatarfourlegsgood,

laterality - it's one of the red flags that we see with some kids who might have problems down the road with reading. But not always - like you say.

I diagnose and correct reading/math issues with dyslexic and other learning disabled students.

And you all must know by now that I, myself, have issues with spelling.

I know the spelling generalities but get confused with suffix spellings - er or or tion or sion, etc.

Reading was no problem for me - writing is more difficult - processing. putting my thoughts into words.


GravatarYeah, same here.

Though you're missing out on that magnum opus of clitorigraphia, "The Boy In the Boat"...
Phila


ha! I gotta remember to listen to it tomorrow.

By the way - I saw some silver carp fish today. (they are also known as the flying asian carp.)

In 1993 these fish got released in to the Mississippi River as the result of a flood. They're an invasive species and have now made it all the way to wisconsin.

And boy can they jump!


GravatarHappy Bastille Day!!
Tashikoma

couple of hours too late!


Gravatarcat porn
a great way to lose votes..............


GravatarGreat, now I've got three insulted kitties in the house with me!

Your kitties are lovely too. If I mentioned all the nice looking kitties I know we'd be here all fucking night.


GravatarIf I mentioned all the nice looking kitties I know we'd be here all fucking night.
fourlegsgood | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:26 am | #


True. Sorry. Never mind.


GravatarPlum P, that has a definite Beatles vibe going on...


GravatarMan, do NOT do exercises with a cat on you. They soak up all exercisal goodness and leave you sweaty and confused. Then they sleep for 12 hours just to piss you off!


GravatarWell, this isn't your garden variety "not being able to remember names" thingee.

This is more like I spend the day with my best friend, maybe going to a ball game or something, and we run into another friend, and I turn to introduce my best friend to him.... and I can't remember his name. It's just flat out weird.
fourlegsgood


I've had the problem before -- although it's rare with close friends.

The whole name thing it a real problem for me when I teach.


GravatarPlum P, that has a definite Beatles vibe going on...
Steve French

oh oui


GravatarI know the spelling generalities but get confused with suffix spellings - er or or tion or sion, etc.

Reading was no problem for me - writing is more difficult - processing. putting my thoughts into words.


I'm an excellent speller, and reading and writing were always easy for me.

Math, not so much. Concepts are fine, arithmatic kills me. I needed a tutor to get out of business calculus.

And weirdly enough, I write for a living. Honestly, I think I got off lightly. My disability is so minor it doesn't really count.


Gravatarchildren blogger children


GravatarI think they are all salad bar Christians, picking and choosing what parts of the Bible they want to believe and rationalizing away the parts they'd rather ignore.
Richard | 07.15.06 - 2:22 am | #


Hard not to, considering that's pretty much how the Bible was "written."


GravatarWhen you start with a source filled to the brim with contradictions that's not too surprising, is it?

I ain't arguing with that.

There's a book I'm currently reading called "Misquoting Jesus"

Editorial Reviews

From Booklist
The popular perception of the Bible as a divinely perfect book receives scant support from Ehrman, who sees in Holy Writ ample evidence of human fallibility and ecclesiastical politics. Though himself schooled in evangelical literalism, Ehrman has come to regard his earlier faith in the inerrant inspiration of the Bible as misguided, given that the original texts have disappeared and that the extant texts available do not agree with one another. Most of the textual discrepancies, Ehrman acknowledges, matter little, but some do profoundly affect religious doctrine. To assess how ignorant or theologically manipulative scribes may have changed the biblical text, modern scholars have developed procedures for comparing diverging texts. And in language accessible to nonspecialists, Ehrman explains these procedures and their results. He further explains why textual criticism has frequently sparked intense controversy, especially among scripture-alone Protestants. In discounting not only the authenticity of existing manuscripts but also the inspiration of the original writers, Ehrman will deeply divide his readers. Although he addresses a popular audience, he undercuts the very religious attitudes that have made the Bible a popular book. Still, this is a useful overview for biblical history collections.


GravatarHey Rorschach, got your note...thanks! I just sent the young lady a note, so we'll see what happens.


GravatarMy earlier comment on Xianity--RMJ is one of the best commenters at this site, also a minister from TX

I envy his scholarship, wisdom and kindness, would wish to imitate him.

But he has faith in the Bible! Ack ack ack, if you get my point


GravatarNot on the West Coast, Plum. I'm still in celebratory mode! Weeeeeeeeeee!


GravatarI think they are all salad bar Christians

And they only choose the iceberg lettuce and the pickled okra.

Assholes.


GravatarVery cool Phila! Hope I'm able to help.


GravatarNot on the West Coast, Plum. I'm still in celebratory mode! Weeeeeeeeeee!
Tashikoma

enfer et damnation!!!


GravatarI envy his scholarship, wisdom and kindness, would wish to imitate him.

But he has faith in the Bible!


Actually, I believe he has faith in god.

Sometimes I envy him that.


GravatarThis is more like I spend the day with my best friend, maybe going to a ball game or something, and we run into another friend, and I turn to introduce my best friend to him.... and I can't remember his name. It's just flat out weird.
fourlegsgood


flg, I once locked up like that while trying to introduce my mother to somebody I knew perfectly well.

(Okay, this was caused by an inability to decide whether to call her "my mother" or by her name, which at the age I was then was not something I was used to calling her by. But still....)

In any case I trust this demonstrates I have the not-good-with-names thing. I just never heard it called "dyslexia" before since I thought that was defined as a reading/writing problem specifically of the letter-order variety. Will put this in the learn-something-new-every-day file I guess.


GravatarHard not to, considering that's pretty much how the Bible was "written."

The bible was written at a Souper Salad??

Gee, the things one learns on these here internets.


GravatarAlthough he addresses a popular audience, he undercuts the very religious attitudes that have made the Bible a popular book.

stfu


GravatarBut he has faith in the Bible! Ack ack ack, if you get my point
Draco | 07.15.06 - 2:30 am | #


Sigh.

I don't really think that's entirely accurate. Or at least, it needs a hell of a lot of qualification.

But it's not like RMJ needs a dipshit like me to speak for him, so I'll shut up.


GravatarI must be in an especially contentious mood tonight, 'cause I usually stay out of stuff like this...but the bit about the sword is very unlikely to be literal.

How do you, or anyone else, really know? Tolstoy wasn't in the room when those words were allegedly spoken.


GravatarBest book review ever-

http://www.archive.org/details/kjv10

Looking for a spooky tale to curl up to this Halloween season? Is there a glaring gap between your Stephen King and Anne Rice books on the shelf? Here's the perfect horror novel to plug it with!

A supernatural thriller to the core, the monster in this book will thrill and chill you! A demonic entity named Yahweh sets humanity up with the perfect trap: the Tree of Life. Knowing they'll eat the otherwise purposeless fruit, he slaps them with a generational curse that binds them to his malevolent will! What follows is the most twisted tale of evil ever written! Yahweh, egotistical and ragingly jealous, uses those under his control to rape and pillage cultures that don't worship him. Men, women and animals alike were slain in these bloodthirsty raids. The only hope you had was being a virgin woman whom Yahweh encourages to be conquested [Deuteronomy 21:10-13], [Deuteronomy 20:13-16].


GravatarThe bible was written at a Souper Salad??

fourlegsgood


In Constaninople!

they might be giants should write a song about this.


GravatarVery cool Phila! Hope I'm able to help.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:31 am | #


Well, you're willing to...which is good enough for me.


Gravatar I just never heard it called "dyslexia" before since I thought that was defined as a reading/writing problem specifically of the letter-order variety.

That's the common way it manifests. It's actually a brain wiring problem. Both my brother and my sister are dyslexic as well.

That's what the docs told us when I was younger.


GravatarI like the term "Salad Bar Christians" but that leaves the whole pasta bar to the followers of TFSM, and that's just weird.


GravatarIn Constaninople!

Oh, well that makes sense.


GravatarFading out here. Night all.


GravatarThe whole drinking blood & flesh part of the ressurection has always struck me as quite similar to a Dionysus/Orpheus/ kill the corn king so the crops will grow ritual.


GravatarA demonic entity named Yahweh sets humanity up with the perfect trap: the Tree of Life

yes yes the yids boooring..


GravatarWell, you're willing to...which is good enough for me.
Phila | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:34 am | #


What can I say? It's what I do, when my cats aren't requiring me to make bloggers spend all fucking night listing cute cats!


GravatarHow do you, or anyone else, really know? Tolstoy wasn't in the room when those words were allegedly spoken.
Richard | 07.15.06 - 2:33 am | #


Well, mainly because if they were literal, they'd go against almost everything else he said, and would be kinda nonsensical to boot. Whereas when read in the context of removing oneself from the world and breaking attachments, and/or being persecuted, they're consistent not only with the rest of Jesus's schtick, but also with mystical religious traditions generally, which certainly seem like they spring from a very similar impulse or experience.


GravatarShouldn't any Divine essence encorporate the entire dining experience?


GravatarBut it's not like RMJ needs a dipshit like me to speak for him, so I'll shut up.

Or me either, for that matter.

I don't think RMJ is one of these nutty people who thing the bible is actually the literal word of god.

Me, I just believe in the force. Not that it's manifested itself to me lately. Or given me a lightsaber or anything.


GravatarAnatomy of Regime Change by Jim Jesus Rimbaud

The inverted yield curve - http://www.treasury.gov/offices/...ate/ yield.shtml
- and the prophecies derived therefrom.

The 3 month T-Bill yield only 5 basis points less than the 30 year T-Bond. Why would an 'investor' do this? Well, an investor would do this if his inflation expectations were such that he expected disinflation or outright deflation. What would trigger such events? The Federal Reserve unwinding its two year campaign of rate hikes in response to recession or depression. But oil at $77 per bbl IS inflationary. Make it very hard to cut rates without futher debasing the debased US dollar. Ordinarily the demand for oil would slow as the US entered a recession allowing a price drop that in turn tames inflation and allows the Fed some leeway in cutting rates. All those bets are off if Iran can induce Israel to attack Syria. On the day it shuts off the oil spigot, prices go to $85 per bbl. Add a couple bucks per day for every day Iranian production is offline. This would deepen the shadows of US economic slowdow into the blackness of night. The regime gets changed in November 06, and buttspanked in 08, as we do a redux of the economic malaise that plagued the last days of George H.W. Bush. Thank you Iran.


GravatarThe whole drinking blood & flesh part of the ressurection has always struck me as quite similar to a Dionysus/Orpheus/ kill the corn king so the crops will grow ritual.
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 2:37 am | #


Oh, tell it to James Fraser!


Gravatar It's what I do, when my cats aren't requiring me to make bloggers spend all fucking night listing cute cats!

Little bastard slavemasters!!


GravatarWhat can I say? It's what I do, when my cats aren't requiring me to make bloggers spend all fucking night listing cute cats!
rorschach

dogs have a master, cats have servants


GravatarI don't think RMJ is one of these nutty people who thing the bible is actually the literal word of god.

I may not agree with him, for whatever reason. But if I ever put apply half as much intelligent attention to a subject as he's applied to that one, I'll have come a very long way in life.


GravatarDivine essence encorporate the entire dining experience?

you want spooks while you eat?

and then you will have that what you desire


GravatarOh, tell it to James Fraser!
rorschach


uh oh - who's James Fraser?


Gravatarfrom dictionary.com:

A learning disorder marked by impairment of the ability to recognize and comprehend written words.


Main Entry: dys·lex·ia
Pronunciation: dis-'lek-sE-&
Function: noun
: a disturbance of the ability to read; broadly : disturbance of the ability to use language

[New Latin : dys- + Greek lexis, speech (from legein, to speak. See leg- in Indo-European Roots).]


Gravataruh oh - who's James Fraser?
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 2:41 am | #


Author of The Golden Bough...


GravatarBut if I ever put apply half as much intelligent attention to a subject as he's applied to that one, I'll have come a very long way in life.

Yeah, me too.


GravatarI may not agree with him, for whatever reason. But if I ever put apply half as much intelligent attention to a subject as he's applied to that one, I'll have come a very long way in life.
Phila | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:40 am | #


On the first point, word. On the second, I daresay you have.


GravatarEventually it always veers back to Christian bashing, don't it.


GravatarEventually it always veers back to Christian bashing, don't it.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 07.15.06 - 2:42 am | #


Um, yeah, sure, whatever.


Gravatardivine essence encorporate the entire dining experience?

you asked for it


GravatarWell, I think I'm dragging my tired ass off to bed.


GravatarBut weren't the first of the Gospels written (as in actually transcribed) 200 years after Christ? That makes for some awesome interpretations on the part of the authors.


GravatarJames Fraser Rox!!


GravatarI don't think RMJ is one of these nutty people who thing the bible is actually the literal word of god.

I may not agree with him, for whatever reason. But if I ever put apply half as much intelligent attention to a subject as he's applied to that one, I'll have come a very long way in life.
Phila


And there's such a variety of ways to approach religion & faith.

For example, Martin Marty is a classic example of a liberal Christian.

Or Bill Moyers/ Joseph Campbell are another example of ways to approach faith that do not support the political goals of conservatives.


GravatarThe sword is his mouth. Prophetess. The greek. To speak forth on behalf of God. He was right.


GravatarWell, I think I'm dragging my tired ass off to bed.
fourlegsgood

moi aussi,bonne nuit à tous!


GravatarJames Jesus Rimbaud

Methinks I smell a namestealer.


GravatarAuthor of The Golden Bough...
Phila


oh yeah. I should read that.

Some day...


GravatarNight 4 legs!

Give Maxx a pet from me.


GravatarJames Fraser Rox!!
Tashikoma | 07.15.06 - 2:45 am | #


Couldn't have named my blog without him. Sort of.


GravatarBill Moyers/ Joseph Campbell are another example of ways to approach faith that do not support the political goals of conservatives.
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 2:45 am | #


Liberation theology is a huge force in Central and South America...


GravatarSome day...
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 2:46 am | #


Interesting but often infuriating.

I've only read the abridgement....


GravatarA learning disorder marked by impairment of the ability to recognize and comprehend written words.

That's how it works for me..

It's something I've learned to deal with, somewhat. Commenting here can be frustrating, what with proofreading my posts multiple times to correct errors. It's why I lurk but don't comment as often as I'd like.


Gravatar200 years after Christ? Please. John was probably latest - the nineties. The Pauline letters 40's and 50's.


GravatarBut weren't the first of the Gospels written (as in actually transcribed) 200 years after Christ? That makes for some awesome interpretations on the part of the authors.

I thought it was within 40 years old christ's death.

But what the fuck do I know? I have a business degree.


GravatarBut weren't the first of the Gospels written (as in actually transcribed) 200 years after Christ?


WTF???


GravatarCommenting here can be frustrating, what with proofreading my posts multiple times to correct errors. It's why I lurk but don't comment as often as I'd like.

Hey, don't worry about it. Just put it down to bad typing like the rest of us.



GravatarSome day...
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 2:46 am | #

Interesting but often infuriating.


Agreed.


GravatarI thought it was within 40 years old christ's death.

That's the Official Storyline. This storyline also claims the first five books of the Bible were penned by Moses.


GravatarSteve French, check this out Firefox 2.0Beta. The reason to do this is the in line spell checker. To me this is the big benefit of this version. It works just like a word processing spell checker, misspelled words get underlined in red, allowing you to right click and correct the error. It won't help with mis-usage, of words.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/...ases/ 2.0a3.html


GravatarA guy on Antiques Roadshow just said the existentialist philosophy is that bad things happen to good people.


GravatarBut weren't the first of the Gospels written (as in actually transcribed) 200 years after Christ?

IIRC, it was around 80 or 90 years after.


Gravatar what with proofreading my posts multiple times to correct errors.


GravatarHey, don't worry about it. Just put it down to bad typing like the rest of us.
fourlegsgood

or to broken english from french canadian woman!


GravatarDyslexics have a difficult time reading and have confusion with short vowel sounds and reversals of bs and ds gs and ps and qs n and u because sometimes they have difficulty with inversions of letters, too.

And sometimes they have difficulty with laterality and read words backwords - was as saw, for example.

If anyone wants to ask me questions about concerns you might have about children who are having difficulty with reading or writing please feel free to ask me, anytime. I can't diagnose it - but I might be able to point you in the right direction.

early intervention is the key - and it's very successful if addressed at an early age - grade one or two.

I'm off to sleep, now!


GravatarEverything I know about the Golden Bough I learned from Robert Anton Wilson. I think he's still alive, Gods Bless Him!


GravatarCrap.

Steve, see? I can't even close my fucking tags.

I was trying to say that your comment made me sad-


GravatarLiberation theology is a huge force in Central and South America...
rorschach


Exactly. I can certainly understand why religiosity has left a bad taste in people's mouths.

But the variety of religious experiences go beyond the form of authoritarianism and political motives of the Christian Coalition.

Then again, I'm pretty much a mess in terms of religion. I don't have a problem with believing contradictory things at the same time.

I'm probably a pagan and a monotheist.


GravatarEverything I know about the Golden Bough I learned from Robert Anton Wilson. I think he's still alive, Gods Bless Him!
Tashikoma | 07.15.06 - 2:52 am | #


That crazy freak! Have you read his, um, interpretation of Finnegans Wake? Bizarre.


GravatarOkay, really going to bed now.


GravatarBut weren't the first of the Gospels written (as in actually transcribed) 200 years after Christ? That makes for some awesome interpretations on the part of the authors.

As I recall, the gospels date from about 70-95, though the names (Mark, Matthew, Luke and John) weren't attached until about 100 years later.


GravatarInteresting but often infuriating.

Agreed.
rorschach


Maybe I absorbed some of his hypothesis from Mary Renault's fiction.


GravatarI was trying to say that your comment made me sad-

Don't be sad for me... God gave me a huge penis.


Doug, thank you, I'll check that out.


GravatarCommenting here can be frustrating, what with proofreading my posts multiple times to correct errors. It's why I lurk but don't comment as often as I'd like.

Hey, don't worry about it. Just put it down to bad typing like the rest of us.

fourlegsgood


I'm a horrible editor. Especially as haloscan doesn't have a spell check option.


GravatarRegarding the New Testament, there is MUCH written by scholars on the dateing thereof. These are scholars, not the Church, which come up with consensual datings. For instance, the non-canonical Clement's 1st Letter to the Corinthians has been generally dated in the reign of Domitian, 91-96. The fourth pope in his letter makes references to much of what would become the canonical gospels excepting John.


Gravatar"Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36)

Well, anyone who thinks preaching universal pacifism and love could ever bring peace to the world, should observe the behavior of pro-Israel trolls when one suggests it really would be better for Israel to patiently endure attacks without reprisal.

One of the most fury-inspiring things you can do to someone who is frustrated with you is to say, calmly and with honesty in your eyes, "I love you."


GravatarThe even earlier Didache bears a Syrian witness to the sayings of Jesus and may have been written when the Gospels where in unsettled oral form.


GravatarRegarding the New Testament, there is MUCH written by scholars on the dateing thereof. These are scholars, not the Church, which come up with consensual datings. For instance, the non-canonical Clement's 1st Letter to the Corinthians has been generally dated in the reign of Domitian, 91-96. The fourth pope in his letter makes references to much of what would become the canonical gospels excepting John.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 07.15.06 - 2:57 am | #


Since God created the universe just a few days ago, all datings of the Gospels are simply the machinations of Satan. Not as profoundly as fossils, of course, but still.


GravatarOnly a fundamentalist would believe that Moses wrote the Torah. There are two authors, and they will doubltless be forever nameless.


GravatarOne of the most fury-inspiring things you can do to someone who is frustrated with you is to say, calmly and with honesty in your eyes, "I love you."
previously pre, rank amateur | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:58 am | #


I've done that, and I've the scars to prove it.


GravatarDon't be sad for me... God gave me a huge penis.

Excellent!!

My faith in the universe is restored.


GravatarHey, don't worry about it. Just put it down to bad typing like the rest of us.

4 legged hypocrite, you have attacked many people for typos and now it's just bad typing when you do it?


GravatarThats fucking childish.


GravatarDarn--I seem to have set off a longer thread of nearsighted flak than I can read. Let me make clear how much I like RMJ and how nice he's been to me, citing Google with immediate sources

Sorry for my tardiness--conjuntivitis


GravatarEspecially as haloscan doesn't have a spell check option.

Well, one alternative is to cut and paste your post into a word processor of some sort that does have such capability before actually publishing it. I never go to that extent, but I will on occasion stick a work into an online dictionary if I figure my spelling might be dubious.


GravatarThere are two authors, and they will doubltless be forever nameless.

J author, E author, P author, D author, R one assumes you're classifying differently as a Redactor... are you grouping J/E and P/D somehow?


GravatarNobody in here knows what they're talking about.
Your all third rate, failed academics.


GravatarNobody in here knows what they're talking about.
Your all third rate, failed academics.
gene | 07.15.06 - 3:03 am | #


Touche.


GravatarDenny Hastert said the Repubs will actually gain seats in November.


GravatarHeh. Had a deadline to meet today. Sent the last chapter at 11:59!


GravatarYour all third rate, failed academics.



Even an old dyslexic bastard like me couldn't miss that!


GravatarYour all third rate, failed academics.
gene | 07.15.06 - 3:03 am | #


Pelion on Ossa!


GravatarNobody in here knows what they're talking about.
Your all third rate, failed academics.

yeh it's like the assberger syndrome.
Pundits and haks


GravatarOne of the most fury-inspiring things you can do to someone who is frustrated with you is to say, calmly and with honesty in your eyes, "I love you."
previously pre


but the best way to defuse an argument is to say "I hear you" and mean it.


GravatarOne of the most fury-inspiring things you can do to someone who is frustrated with you is to say, calmly and with honesty in your eyes, "I love you."
previously pre, rank amateur

I know a woman who successfully deterred a rapist with that tactic.


GravatarDyslexia is a made up disease.


GravatarHeh. Had a deadline to meet today. Sent the last chapter at 11:59!
Phila | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 3:04 am | #


Well done, ya third rate, failed academic!


GravatarPlease don't anyone tattle on me to RMJ--"Draco was talking bad about you" I wasn't!"


GravatarHeh. Had a deadline to meet today. Sent the last chapter at 11:59!
Phila
Ever wonder how many more times you'll get away with it?
I do.


GravatarYour all third rate, failed academics.
gene


Hm. What kind of discussion are you expecting at 2:00 in the morning?


GravatarMy NRSV date-traces the approximate originals to the latter half of the first century for most of the New Testament. Although arguably, the formative Church changed so much in scribing that the point of tracing that far back for everything NT is specious. Gospel of John, for example, incorporates a collection of factoids that would indicate inclusion of several commonly-accepted stories or narrative flourishes, really no more credible than decades-old rumors.

Responding to others upthread, sensible Christians use the Bible as a guide, not the only guide in life, and take passages with a grain of salt. Most moderate Christians are familiar with some phrasing of the idea "even the Devil can cite scripture for his purpose"...


GravatarJames, gene, Snow, now it's the echo-chamber troll.


GravatarWell done, ya third rate, failed academic!
rorschach

imagine you faxed something wow....pure genius


GravatarHeh. Had a deadline to meet today. Sent the last chapter at 11:59!
Phila


Yea!


GravatarThat crazy freak! Have you read his, um, interpretation of Finnegans Wake? Bizarre.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 2:53 am | #

No, I haven't read that, I'm just inspired by his cartoonish take on semi-modern conspirisy theory. Brilliant! He Illuminated the "Illuminanti" for me. I was young, and it was dark, etc.


GravatarRecent research has shown the clitoris raps all around the waist and has the same blood flow dynamics as the penis.


GravatarNobody in here knows what they're talking about.
Your all third rate, failed academics.
gene | 07.15.06 - 3:03 am | #


Hey, I haven't failed yet!


GravatarHeh. Had a deadline to meet today. Sent the last chapter at 11:59!
Phila

we are sposed to care?


GravatarNobody in here knows what they're talking about.
Your all third rate, failed academics.
gene


Aren't you ever going to get a new schtick, jack? You've been grinding that particular axe for months.

Christ, you're boring.

Why don't you go and read one of those "rare" out of print books you were bragging about under one of your other names?


GravatarRecent research has shown the clitoris raps all around the waist and has the same blood flow dynamics as the penis.
gene | 07.15.06 - 3:08 am | #


Your issues are rather glaringly on display.


GravatarYour issues are rather glaringly boring.


GravatarDyslexia is a made up disease.
gene | 07.15.06 - 3:06 am | #


All diseases are "made up" diseases, really. We make up a term that correponds to a set of symptoms that correlate with some common treatment *or* some common cause (like a particular family of bacteria). And we choose to call it a "disease" because that's how language works.


GravatarAren't you ever going to get a new schtick, jack?

jack is one of petzolds many monikers.


GravatarNobody in here knows what they're talking about.
Your all third rate, failed academics.
gene | 07.15.06 - 3:03 am | #

Hey, I haven't failed yet!
previously pre, rank amateur




GravatarI try to stay away from Joyce, bad for the blood and what.


GravatarWell done, ya third rate, failed academic!
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 3:06 am | #


I'm a third-rate failed nonacademic...that's much worse.


GravatarSo - are gene and snow the same person?

And are they both jack?


GravatarThen again, I'm pretty much a mess in terms of religion. I don't have a problem with believing contradictory things at the same time.

I'm probably a pagan and a monotheist.
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 2:53 am | #


I've come to accept that my frame of reference is basically Christian. Which is weird, because I wasn't raised that way (or any other). But pretty much all my favorite artists, writers, etc are Christian, which I assume signifies something regardless of the fact that I'm not actually a Christian.

I do pretty much agree with the online quiz that recently called me a Pyrrhonian.


GravatarWell done, ya fourth rate, failed failure


Gravatar
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 3:12 am | #


Give me a few more years to bump myself up a few ranks. I'll say all the stupid things I've always said, but with an aire of authority. Then and only then will I sign my posts "previously pre, failed academic".


Gravatargeoduck2, it is a fake snow


GravatarRecent research has shown the clitoris raps all around the waist and has the same blood flow dynamics as the penis.
gene | 07.15.06 - 3:08 am | #

That's allegely called a Fe-Male. Its supposedly an organism which exists in Europe.


GravatarSo - are gene and snow the same person?

Whoever is namestealing snow is probably also posting under the name "gene".


Gravatarjack is one of petzolds many monikers.
Gort | 07.15.06 - 3:12 am | #


Interesting how jack has it in for Toby, who doesn't actually steal names.


GravatarA couple of years ago the Israeli's dug up a Maccabean burial cave while digging for a highway. Unfortunately, Maccabees was excluded by Luther from his cannon on the basis of there being no extant Hebrew antecedent. Had the Prostestants had the Maccabees in their Bible, they would have recognized the modern Zionist state in all its 2nd temple glory. They would have seen the seed of terrorism which was passed on to their victims like the vicious circle of child abuse.


Gravatargeoduck2, it is a fake snow

no it isn't, I'm just tired of the hypocrites here.


GravatarI don't know the "I love you" tactic in any context. I only know it from a boyfriend who demanded it. I said it, then he immediately said "You're only saying that because I told you"


GravatarI'm a third-rate failed nonacademic...that's much worse.
Phila


I'm a failed academic who is interested in fish.

by the way- has anybody heard of these Asian flying carp?

They are actually kind of dangerous. The Silvers grow to be 60 pounds, and they jump in response to motors on boats.

As a result, they jump out of the water, and have hurt people who are boating or water-skiing. Injuries include broken noses, ribs and concussions!

They have migrated up to the Illinois river, but an electrical fence has kept them from getting into the Great Lakes.


GravatarJames Jesus Rimbaud | 07.15.06 - 3:16 am | #

I have no idea whether you're arguing for Zionism as holy or against it as unholy because it's 3am and I can't follow that sophisticated an argument. Have a good night; it's been rather interesting reading your posts.


GravatarThey have migrated up to the Illinois river, but an electrical fence has kept them from getting into the Great Lakes.
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 3:18 am | #


I've read about that, but had no idea they were body-slamming people and breaking their noses.

Maybe it's an editoral comment. Ever read Machen's The Terror?


GravatarDraco,
This woman I knew was faced with a rapist.
She put herself into a peaceful zone.
Exuded peace and love.
I'm not sure if she actually told the guy she loved him, but she went limp, and put out peace to him.
He went away, she was not harmed.


GravatarInteresting how jack has it in for Toby, who doesn't actually steal names.

Toby doesn't steal names but he does comment under the name "Kufr."


Gravatargeoduck2, it is a fake snow
ErinPDX


oh - I understand.

So is Toby Petzoid actually jack?


GravatarZionism is unholy in its methods, if not its aims.


GravatarYou tell 'em Snow. Stick to your guns. Don't let 'em snow ya. (as it were) :>


GravatarToby doesn't steal names but he does comment under the name "Kufr."
Steve French | 07.15.06 - 3:19 am | #


Really? What makes you say that? I don't think that's true.


Gravatarby the way- has anybody heard of these Asian flying carp?

Oooh, there's video out there... Be right back.


GravatarInteresting how jack has it in for Toby, who doesn't actually steal names.

Toby's just a convenient scapegoat for someone who believes he can hide from prior track record of trolling if he confuses the issue of his identity enough.


GravatarI've read about that, but had no idea they were body-slamming people and breaking their noses.

Maybe it's an editoral comment. Ever read Machen's The Terror?
Phila


Hm - I'll have to look it up.

Fisheries biologists speculate that it's a defensive strategy.

I don't quite understand why they would be jumping out of the water - but I suppose it does drive the humans away!


GravatarYour issues are rather glaringly boring.
Snow, Aspirational Despot | 07.15.06 - 3:11 am | #


no it isn't, I'm just tired of the hypocrites here.
Snow, Aspirational Despot | 07.15.06 - 3:17 am | #


Explain, if you please.


GravatarRecent research has shown the clitoris raps all around the waist and has the same blood flow dynamics as the penis.
gene


most certainly little or no independant study... eh castaway?


GravatarZionism is unholy in its methods, if not its aims.

Makes sense to me. I've never understood any ethics-oriented argument for why a particular large piece of physical land would be more holy to a benevolent deity than any other large piece of physical land. Other than "it says so right here on page 1347."


GravatarToby's just a convenient scapegoat for someone who believes he can hide from prior track record of trolling if he confuses the issue of his identity enough.
Richard | 07.15.06 - 3:22 am | #


Agreed.


GravatarSo is Toby Petzoid actually jack?
geoduck2
I don't think so.
Toby seems more like a good old country boy gone astray. Give him a good liberal woman to screw regularly and he'd be putty.

jack? bat shit crazy


GravatarErinPDX,

I took a self defense class years ago. One of the teachers told us that she knew of a woman who had stopped a rapist by peeing on him.


GravatarPetzold's Law

As the time approaches the weeest hours of the morning, the probability of Toby Petzold having been mentioned on the most recent Eschaton thread approaches 1.


GravatarI don't know the "I love you" tactic in any context. I only know it from a boyfriend who demanded it. I said it, then he immediately said "You're only saying that because I told you"
Draco | 07.15.06 - 3:17 am | #


Sounds like bliss to me...


GravatarAnd with that, night night everyone


GravatarErin,

Oh - and she had another story about a woman who threw up.


GravatarToby seems more like a good old country boy gone astray. Give him a good liberal woman to screw regularly and he'd be putty.

That's about the size of it, although his racism probably runs a little deeper than that.

Petzold's a lot like Jeff Goldstein, I think...maybe a little stupider, but also not quite as psychotic (yet).


GravatarAsian carp-

http://media.putfile.com/Incredi...shing-Video/ 320


GravatarNight pre!


GravatarAgreed.

It obviously hasn't occurred to the dummy that, if you pull the same stunt a couple thousand times with only the most unimaginative of variations, it doesn't matter what name you call yourself. We're still going to know it's you.

When he gets particularly stupid (like right about now), I think he's either drunk or on drugs.


GravatarReally? What makes you say that? I don't think that's true.

I'm sure it's him, he pulls out that sock puppet when people ignore him. I've seen it happen several times.


Gravatarthanks steve!

These fish think they are at a punk show.

Some fishermen in Western Kentucky, Missouri and Illinois have resorted to using garbage can lids, lawn chairs and other homemade shields to ward off the torpedo-shaped fish while their boats are moving.

The silver carp, which can weigh 60 pounds, can leap high into the air and strike boaters. Its relative the bighead carp is even larger.

"One fisherman was running up behind an island over here at 15 (to) 20 miles an hour, and about a 40-pounder jumped out and hit him right in the chest," said commercial fisherman Ronny Hopkins of Compliance Fish and Caviar in Livingston County, Ky. "He was down for two weeks. If he hadn't been sitting in a tractor seat with a solid back, it would have knocked him out of the boat."


(from http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/in...ngcarp2004.htm)


GravatarLuckily, the act of urination acts as a deterent in most forms of crime. I think the acting body of Psycholgy should add an aside to the Flight or Fight reaction. In conclusion, Flight, Fight or Piss all over the place. It works for most of the animal kingdom.


GravatarI took a self defense class years ago. One of the teachers told us that she knew of a woman who had stopped a rapist by peeing on him.
geoduck2
OK geoduck
we were in the same damned class
1977 eugene or


GravatarI'm sure it's him, he pulls out that sock puppet when people ignore him. I've seen it happen several times.
Steve French | 07.15.06 - 3:30 am | #


Hmmm...I dunno. Kufr is pretty much the king of namestealers. More likely he's posting as Toby.

But who knows/cares.


GravatarLike when I give my cat a bath.


Gravatargeoduck2, bad link.


GravatarPetzold's a lot like Jeff Goldstein, I think...maybe a little stupider, but also not quite as psychotic (yet).
Phila


yes. He's not quite so sociopathic.

I can't believe how well Althouse described JG. He plays a ugly game.


GravatarGeoduck, did you happen to see my link to "Het Visboek"?


GravatarI can't believe how well Althouse described JG. He plays a ugly game.
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 3:33 am | #


Well, she has that head start, insight-wise, from being a hell of a lot like him...


GravatarI oughta put myself to bed. And debates about Toby's "identity" are doing wonders to combat my insomnia!

'night, bats.


GravatarYeah, badlink Geoduck2. I NEED to see that.


GravatarGood night Rorshach, I dig your moniker.


Gravatargeoduck2, bad link.
Steve French


That's why I quoted it. I can't find my notes that tell me how to link.

(I know. My technological illiteracy is pathetic. My husband wrote out notes to show me how to put in a link.)

The article was originally from the Courier Journal (Louisville, KY) but was reprinted in Ichthyology.)


Gravatar'night, bats.
rorschach | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 3:35 am | #


Goodnight, and thanks again.


GravatarAfter taking that class, I decided my tactic would be her suggested, "get down on the ground and bark like an insane dog. They'll think you are batshit crazy and leave you alone."

Much better than hitting them smack in the nose and possibly killing them.


Gravatarok- how do I make these links hot?

There's a couple of other great articles I looked up tonight about these body-slamming fish!


Geoduck, did you happen to see my link to "Het Visboek"?
Phila


no - what's that?


GravatarBut who knows/cares.

Yeah, I could be wrong... It seems that "Kufr" usually materializes soon after Toby goes away.


GravatarErinPDX | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 3:19 am | #

I'm sorry if I misinterpreted or trivialized your comment. I certainly didn't mean to compare my bad romance with attempted rape--very different


Gravatarno - what's that?
geoduck2 | 07.15.06 - 3:38 am | #


A mindboggling 16th-century ichthyology text...craziest think ever. You can find it near the bottom of my "Hope Blogging" post.


GravatarIf you click through my page, you want the link that says "Blader in het Visboek."


GravatarGeoduck,

ttp://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/innews/ flyingcarp2004.htm

You added a ) to the end of the link is all.


GravatarOr this...

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/ in...ingcarp2004.htm


GravatarThat sounds like how to deal with a bear, basically make alot of noise and hope they leave.

Not really the best defense technique. As a fellow Portlander and Atriot I'd suggest the ritual eye gouge or at least nose tear. Remember, Eye, Ears, Nose and Throat. Just like the Doctor. Don't go for the groin cause they'll be expecting that. The face offers the most targets, be it a bear or a would be rapist.


GravatarPhila,
Ripley rrrre-posted Blog-Integritude weeth updated goodness.

so.


GravatarI have to see that text!
---------------

ok - let's try this again.

flying carp!


Gravatarflying carp...human beinmgs are so fucking short-sightedly stupid, which is why I actually have no fear that we will prevail. Biology will. We just haven;t one fucking clue......


GravatarJeeze Steve, that's nothing to carp about.


Gravatarthanks Steve!

We cross posted. Mr. Geoduck is very oppressed. He showed me how to do it again.


GravatarDraco,
No confusion here.
I giggled when I read your story, because I've seen that demand for the words, "I love you."

OT, but we are working on a volunteer project relating to Internet content access for visually impaired people. I'd like your advice. If interested, please email my gmail account
srcehster

Need to go to bed now. Nite bats.


GravatarTashikoma |

I just can't see myself going for a bear's groin.......


GravatarGood nite Erin. Sleep tight!


GravatarTashikoma
I'll keep that in mind.
Enjoy the glorious weekend.


GravatarPhila,
Ripley rrrre-posted Blog-Integritude weeth updated goodness.


Good stuff.


GravatarSome fishermen use trash can lids to deflect the fish. Shields!

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQK/ is_5_8/ai_107895381


GravatarWait - did something wrong.

sorry about that.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQK/ is_5_8/ai_107895381


Gravataroh crap - never mind. don't click on those.


GravatarOK, despite having eaten an entire bar of tea-infused dark chocolate, I'm gonna run along and pretend that sleep is an option...


GravatarWell Sarah, that's the point. No matter the size of the animal, a well-placed shot to the nose or eye will disrupt any attack. That's the beauty of our 3D focused sensory organs! Don't go for the groin. Eye, ears, nose and throat. Couldn't be easier.

Of course, the best defense is not to be there.


Gravatarthanks Steve!

We cross posted. Mr. Geoduck is very oppressed. He showed me how to do it again.


I'm much too lazy to imbed links.

I've seen asian carp jumping, though not on the same scale as the video- Then we have tench, white perch and zebra mussels to deal with. Invasive species are epidemic and are destroying ecosystems across the country.

Jeez, look at what white folks have done here in a few hundred years.


GravatarI have to see that text!

Go to the link that talks about the page-turning animation.

It really is incredible.

G'night!


GravatarIf one has to use trash can lids to shield one's self from flying carp while fishing, that would seem to be a "sign" for one to stop trying to kill fish.....

So many more reasons to become a vegetarian.....


GravatarI just can't see myself going for a bear's groin.......

That's what Andrew Sullivan would do...


GravatarNight Phila!

I've seen asian carp jumping, though not on the same scale as the video- Then we have tench, white perch and zebra mussels to deal with. Invasive species are epidemic and are destroying ecosystems across the country.
Steve French


It's amazing how fast invasive species can spread.

Starlings are another example. A group formed that decided to introduce all the animals named in Shakespeare into North America. They brought over the starlings.

Well, I'd better go to bed. Night all!


GravatarThat's what Andrew Sullivan would do...
Steve French | 07.15.06 - 4:00 am | #


Yeah, he'll get that bear back every time...


GravatarAn eye witness report on the attack on Lebanon by Robert Fisk.

http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle13978.htm


GravatarI'm gone too...

Peace to all of you.


GravatarThat's what the fish want you to think. Remember, evolution is a continuing process, we must learn to outthink the fish. Don't rely on outdated notions of "Vegetarianism" or "Modesty", the main idea here is to show our superiority over our brethern the "fish".

I'm sure carp all around the country are reading this blog and are formulating a violent response. This is another thing Atrios has to answer for. Bastard!


GravatarHmmmm...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp..._print/ asection

The House Government Reform Committee has subpoenaed the former law firm of convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff for records of any contacts he or members of his lobbying team had with the Bush White House.


GravatarIt don't mean a thing
if it ain't got that swing.


GravatarMorning all. Anyone here?


GravatarIf I were still doing Bobo's World, I'd add this:

Minister gets 180-year sentence on molestation charges


GravatarI decided to come hang out, Moe.


GravatarHey Barndog. Problem is, I gotta go in a few: my first Farmers Market day. Kinda stupid that I'm even going, tho. It rained so much this spring I don't really have enough to sell to make it worth my while.


GravatarMorning Moonbats.

Go Moe. It'll be fun to hang and see what others have for sale.

I'm convinced that this maladministration, knowing they won't have power much longer gave Israel the green light to do what they want at the slightest provocation. How else to explain the shit storm?


GravatarWell... that's an instance I can't help ya with Moe. I haven't contacted the market people yet. Looks like next year I'll be growing and marketing with my bro and his wife (doing heirloom tomatos & such).

I may give them some tomatos or peppers to market for me this summer, given I seem to have a sudden onslaught of sweet and hot peppers at the moment. Tomatos are really starting to just turn on the ripening.

When it happens, I'll be needing the wheelbarrow just to harvest. These plants are unreal.


GravatarHmmmph. Tomatoes don't come in around here until September. I've got a few straggly bags of lettuce, some arugula, a handful of peas and beans, and raspberries. I'll be sold out by 9 o'clock.


GravatarOh well, gotta go. See ya'all later.


GravatarWe're having an urban picnic with the folks from Liberal Mountain. It's already 73 degrees and it's supposed to go up to about 90. Humid too. I don't know if this is such a good idea.


GravatarYa QL. It's pretty warm and humid here already. Weatherman sed 94 today, and even hotter tommorrow.


GravatarIt don't mean a thing
if it ain't got that swing.
benny | 07.15.06 - 5:04 am | #
***********************

ah yes. the big band theory.


Gravatarql, it will be fine. just sit in the shade and you will be comfortable. doesn't sound like bad shade sitting weather at all. bad ditch digging weather, though.


Gravataris this thing on? i have a theory that someone on atrios knows the answer to any question that can be asked. so here is my question. did bugeye sprites have rollup windows or not?


GravatarI think you'll have to wait til later to get an answer on that on. I don't even know what a bugeye sprite is. A car?


Gravatardid bugeye sprites have rollup windows or not?
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!


No

Though later models of the Sprite did.


GravatarIt isn't raining. I'd almost forgotten what that was like


Gravatari like rain. i live in the desert.


GravatarIts a jungle out there. Really, I mean it looks and sounds jungle like. The birds are making a hellava din.


Gravatari like rain. i live in the desert.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!


I'm sitting under the remnants of a tropical storm. Very gray and blustery.

86F with 74% Humidity with a heat index of 96F


GravatarI'm sitting under the remnants of a tropical storm. Very gray and blustery.

86F with 74% Humidity with a heat index of 96F
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 6:26 am | #
**********************

tropical storms are great. i didn't always live in the desert. i grew up in the chesapeake region. love tropical storms.


GravatarMorning moonbats

love the live cat video atrios!


GravatarHmmm... interesting developments in India

:::But Indian officials said investigations suggested a Pakistani intelligence hand in the bombings.

"Activists of SIMI have probably facilitated this but the planning was ISI," a senior Home Ministry official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Reuters in New Delhi.

He was referring to the outlawed Students Islamic Movement of India and the Inter-Services Intelligence agency of Pakistan.

Indian National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan also told a cabinet meeting on Thursday that investigations suggested a Pakistani intelligence hand in the bombings, the official said.:::

:::Islamabad challenged New Delhi to come up with evidence that the ISI was involved in the blasts.

"In the past two days, India has not given us anything in writing or talked of any evidence," Aslam, the Pakistani foreign ministry spokeswoman, said. "The accusation that the ISI masterminded the attack is baseless.":::


GravatarNo officers to face charges over Menezes

CPS rules out prosecutions for murder or manslaughter in shooting case


No individual police officers involved in the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes will face prosecution over his death, the Guardian has learned. The Crown Prosecution Service has ruled out murder or manslaughter charges after a review of the circumstances surrounding the killing of the innocent Brazilian who was mistaken for a suicide bomber in July last year.

But the CPS is expected to announce on Monday that the Metropolitan police as an organisation will be charged with breaching health and safety at work laws over the shooting, raising questions over the future of the Met commissioner Sir Ian Blair. If found guilty of breaches, the Met could be fined an unlimited sum.


GravatarUS plans up to US$1 billion arms sale to Australia

:::The Pentagon unveiled plans today to sell Australia shipborne missile launching systems built by Lockheed Martin Corp. and related gear valued at up to US$1 billion ($1.61 billion).:::


GravatarThe framing of Hizbullah

Israel's response to its soldiers' capture is part of a hamfisted attempt to redraw the region's map

Amal Saad-Ghorayeb in Beirut


GravatarGood morning, moonbats!


GravatarGreetings Vicki


GravatarMoon,

I'd hang out and chat, but bed is calling me. I woke up to feed the cat.


GravatarVicki, thats cool, sleep tight!


GravatarI probably shouldn't have turned on cspan this morning.


Gravatar Libertarian-Left Alliance, Once Again: This Time, Health Care


GravatarIs it possible to be opposed to Israel's current actions without being an anit-semite.


Gravatarql in ny quite true


GravatarBritain urged to ban £23m arms trade with Israel

Campaigners have demanded that Britain impose a ban on arms sales to Israel after figures showed that the Government licensed £23m worth of weaponry to be shipped to the country in the past year. They warned that British arms sales to Tel Aviv broke the Government's pledge not to stock the arsenals of countries where there is a risk of regional instability or conflict.

Figures released by the Department of Trade and Industry showed that arms sales to Israel worth £2m were approved between January and March. The quarterly arms export report brought the year's total arms sales to the country to £23m. Equipment included components for naval guns, military helicopters, submarines and electronic equipment. Components for airborne radars were also included.


Gravataroy -- cnn reporting that the head of iraq's olympic committee, along with dozens of others, were kidnapped in iraq.


Gravatarits already 12:20pm here and I have yet to wash my hair, must go do that.

ciao for now, catch you all laters


GravatarQL, yes, it is possible. My feelings of contempt for Israel's actions have NOTHING to do with the fact they are Jewish. They are just being irrational in my view. Regardless


GravatarKind of slow here today. Maybe I will post something really long and self-indulgent. . . .


GravatarA few early morning Atriots are away this weekend. It is extremely quiet.


GravatarQL,

I am surprised I could even sleep last night. This move by Israel and the corresponding befuddlement of this administration has made me less optimistic than I have ever been. I just see no good way out of this.

The lock-step support for Israel is especially disgusting. They are being irrational and Bush is completely out of his league.

Y'know?


GravatarMorning, rational people.

Sorry I'm late, but I slept in a little.


Gravatarql, as I said last night, to oppose the murderous policies of the current Israeli government is not the equivalent of anti-semitism any more than opposing the policies of the current US regime is the equivalent of anti-Americanism.


GravatarGood morning, (still hopefully) rational people.

Did you see this article from the LA Times?
Terror-War Wackiness
The White House intends to comply with the Supreme Court decision on detainees by turning the truth upside down.


GravatarHmmm...I appear to have driven people off.


GravatarMorning, Diane, How is my favorite early morning California lawyer this day?

(The delimiters are pretty specific )


GravatarAh, good morning, Karin! I was beginning to get a little paranoid.

Great snark in that article, thanks for posting it.


GravatarI'm fine, DWD, but dreading today a little. We're supposed to be in the 100F range here, with higher humidity than we are used to.


GravatarDiane,

Hot and humid here as well. Though this close to Lake Michigan it will not make 90 I do not think. And Lake Michigan is up to 70 degrees or so. That is pretty good swimming weather.

(and the central AC works well)


GravatarWhat is there really to say. We are standing on the precipice of WWIII and the maladministration is either complicit or clueless as someone just said on CSPAN. Apparently this crew doesn't believe in planning ahead. I mean come on. Fighting in the M.E. Who could have known.


GravatarOh, you want snark? Try this, Bush Should Channel Nixon In North Korea
by Robert Scheer
while I go get my coffee.


GravatarHot and humid here as well. Though this close to Lake Michigan it will not make 90 I do not think. And Lake Michigan is up to 70 degrees or so. That is pretty good swimming weather.

Here on the south side of Lake Michigan it was up over 90 yesterday, and rained like mad. Was almost like night time at 7 AM yesterday. Very spooky.

Today . . . well, I'll be inside all day. And heading off to see "A Scanner Darkly" at noon.


GravatarI don't have central ac, but I usually don't need it.

I finally got a chance to listen to your interview, which I thought was terrific. You, btw, have a good radio voice.


GravatarDiane, I never heard: did you listen to the interview?

(secondary questions: did I sound like a dork? Was I too pedantic? Pedagogic? Irrational?)


Gravatarql,

I have a very bad feeling about what's happening in the ME. If the Arab League (meeting today) doesn't keep Syria on the sidelines, I think we're in for a horrifying ride.


GravatarDiane, that is good to know that I did not sound the fool. Doing these things is something that I think one needs practice at.

But as with most writers, I LOVE talking about what I do.


GravatarDo you have a link to the interview online, DWD? Last time I was here, you were just off to do it-and I've been preoccupied with other things for the last couple days.


GravatarI thought the interview was remarkable partly because DWD is not a professiional. However, getting up in front of a class of highly critical students day after day does give some experience in public speaking.

I am glad that our host is finding his radio voice as well.


Gravatarql & diane, I also have a bad feeling. The Syrians & Jordanians have fighting going on in countries on both sides of them now. It must be nervous making. A lot of foreigners are in Lebanon, too-it's a big summer vacation spot for the whole Middle East.


Gravatarhttp://home.comcast.net/~veritas...01/ interview.mp

If you are interested. Huge file though - 16mb.


GravatarSo far Jordan has continued to go along with the US as far as Israel goes, but Abdullah is not his father, and he has a whole lot of Palestinians in his country (including his wife) who could cause problems for his government.


GravatarGoo'Day, friends...

i'm up early, but i gotta go early to fix a p-trap in a 2nd floor apt. that's leaking into a 1st floor bathroom, so i won't have much time to contribute my usual brilliance to the discourse t'day...

i hope THIS piece by Bill Berkowitz (Working for Change) gets your blood stirring this early weekend morning...it's about the push-back by the Right against the sanity in Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth.

and if that doesn't get ya cranked up, Joe Conason discusses Joe Lieberman's penchant for talking out of both sides of his jowls about ethical behavior: Conason points out that the Connecticut senator who would lecture us on ethics drafted a bill in 2005 that made generous giveaways to pharmaceutical companies—one month after his wife went to work in the pharmaceuticals division of a major lobbying and PR firm.

cheers, chers...


GravatarThanks, QL. Public speaking is prolly easier than facing that microphone and the comely young lady who had not read the book

The problem with being intereviewed is keeping it on-task. Nothing is ever simple and long, tortured explanations tend to be useless. (Contrarily, reducing complex problems to sound bites is hardly a good way to convey information - see War, Iraq )


GravatarI have a very bad feeling about what's happening in the ME. If the Arab League (meeting today) doesn't keep Syria on the sidelines, I think we're in for a horrifying ride.
Diane - 8:11 am


see we HAVE to invade Syria now...it's necessary both for peace in the region, and for the success of the fascist election plans for the fall...

they'll wait til this time in 08 to go after Iran...
.


Gravataryou sick bastard.


GravatarOdd thought this day: what I really would like to see is a bunch of young people setting aside their Ipods and designer jeans to give a shit about this world.

We need the clarity of thought that can only be generated by those too inexperienced to see nuance. This clarity of thought is wonderful because it tends to discuss arguments that are used to rationalize the irrational.


Gravatar drafted a bill in 2005 that made generous giveaways to pharmaceutical companies—one month after his wife went to work in the pharmaceuticals division of a major lobbying and PR firm

Don't get me started on pharmaceuticals- I just got a prescription that cost $91 for four lousy bills. Actonel.


GravatarDWD, any sales result from the interview?


Gravataryou sick bastard.
Z / | 07.15.06 - 8:26 am


quelle, moi?
pour quoi?


GravatarDammit, early here too: This clarity of thought is wonderful because it tends to dismiss arguments that are used to rationalize the irrational.


Gravatarthey'll wait til this time in 08 to go after Iran...
.
WoodyGuthrie'sGitarinho


Morning, WGG!

Damn, I suspect you're right... sheesh, I hate the thought of perpetual war.


GravatarDiane, not that I know of. I have not heard from the publisher this week - I have a feeling she and her husband are on vacation.

Still trying to get over the irrational fear that seems to have developed here about reading something that a friend has written.

For the life of me I cannot understand the animosity - but I am a simple kind of guy. But I do know that when my writer friends ask me to read their work, I take it as a compliment.


GravatarDamn! The video stops just before he gets down to the face and ear washing procedure -- surely the most adorable of all kitty toilette behavior.

Did the world blow up while I was asleep?


GravatarRehigh folks. Had to take my trailer into the shop for the yearly tire rotation and bearing repack. Having the 2 dogs inside now, is requiring a bit more of my time.

Not that they are demanding or anything... they're still really shocked over losing Katie. I've had them on the scent of a woodchuck a couple of times, which reminded them what it's like being a dog again. I could see their spirits rise and their tails go right up in the air in anticipation.

The vet check-up yesterday gave them both a clean bill of health. We were concerned maybe there was something that Katie might have contracted, and possible could have passed onto the other 2.

Our Vet said Zophie, our almost 12 yr old German Shepard, has to be the finest breed dog for her age they've ever seen. 70 lbs of pure muscle and in perfect health. Bullwinkle, Katie's son, is going to be 10 in Dec, and his left front hip has been getting bad. He's dropped a few lbs, which is good, but she said his body mass has made him a worse physical candidate than Zophie. He still has a good heart and lungs, and both their spirits are still strong.

Sure made us feel alot better.


GravatarDamn, I suspect you're right... sheesh, I hate the thought of perpetual war.
Diane - 8:29 am


That's Fascism, dahlin!
All war, all the time. Ya gotta keep the people in thrall, keep 'em focussed on the threat--and there's nothin' like a good war--or perpetual wars-- to do dat...
.


GravatarI'm trying to talk with you guys and catch up with yesterday's posts at the same time.

Muchas gracias, Atrios, for that link to the Harper's "Stabbed in the Back!" piece. Right up my alley.


GravatarDon't get me started on pharmaceuticals- I just got a prescription that cost $91 for four lousy bills. Actonel.
Karin


Good grief!

Well, PHARMA has our Congress Critters well in hand, so that's no surprise.


GravatarThat's Fascism, dahlin!
All war, all the time. Ya gotta keep the people in thrall, keep 'em focussed on the threat--and there's nothin' like a good war--or perpetual wars-- to do dat...


Reading Kevin Phillips's book right now and I can see how it's like fascism but in a religious garb. Connect this with that RaptureReady site, with all those happy people following the events in Lebanon with great happiness, and I find it hard to see any easy way out.

Sorry for being a downer this early.


GravatarBD, I did not know you had lost a pet. Sorry to hear that. I still miss my dog Zonk and she has been dead for twenty years. (Best dog ever)


GravatarOur Vet said Zophie, our almost 12 yr old German Shepard, has to be the finest breed dog for her age they've ever seen. 70 lbs of pure muscle and in perfect health. Bullwinkle, Katie's son, is going to be 10 in Dec, and his left front hip has been getting bad. He's dropped a few lbs, which is good, but she said his body mass has made him a worse physical candidate than Zophie. He still has a good heart and lungs, and both their spirits are still strong.

That's nice to hear. My dog is fourteen (most likely) and she also got a good bill of health. Nothing much wrong with her except worsening eyesight, but it's not as important in dogs.


GravatarAw, Barndog, sorry to hear about the loss of a member of your family.


GravatarBarndog...

in our sterile, plastic world, where the dead arise from their repose to die again and again in the digital wasteland of our video games and cellulose dreams, our companion animals do a wonderful service, reminding us of the naturalness of death and the inevitability of dying.
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GravatarUm, that should have read four lousy pills $91 for four pills. And that pales next to my father's drug bill. It's in the upper 3 figures some months. If it wasn't for NJ's low income drug plan for seniors, well, I don't know how he would live.


Gravatar Did you see this article from the LA Times?
Terror-War Wackiness
The White House intends to comply with the Supreme Court decision on detainees by turning the truth upside down.
Karin


Great. Just wonderful. Terrific.


GravatarJust listened to Pete Seeger's WAIST DEEP IN THE BIG MUDDY. Make WhiskyIna or Sharkbabe or some of the other Rock and Rollers could take this folk song and add a backbeat and other rock characteristics and get it out there to a new generation, they really need it.


GravatarWGG, nice prose - you must be an early morning writer. (I never used to be, but we get old. Early in the day, the thoughts are more clear and the words more accessible now)


GravatarWGG, nice prose - you must be an early morning writer. (I never used to be, but we get old. Early in the day, the thoughts are more clear and the words more accessible now)


Gravatar Um, that should have read four lousy pills $91 for four pills. And that pales next to my father's drug bill. It's in the upper 3 figures some months. If it wasn't for NJ's low income drug plan for seniors, well, I don't know how he would live.
Karin


Well, this Congress has made it clear that they will continue to live the high life courtesy of the lobbyists.

And as long as that's the case, we won't see any change in health care costs (or anything else, for that matter).


GravatarSeems like I fell behind on a lot of good op ed pieces in the last couple days. E.J. Dionne also had a great one yesterday, Big Band Theory in Ruins

The most intellectually honest case for the war in Iraq was never about Saddam Hussein's alleged stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction. It was the Big Bang Theory.
Not to be confused with theories about the origins of the universe, the Middle East Big Bang idea was simple and seductive. Unlike other arguments for the war, it was based on some facts, though also on some wishful thinking. The point was that the Middle East was a mess. A nest of authoritarian regimes bred opposition movements rebelling against the conditions under which too many people lived and energized by a radical Islamist ideology. Some of them turned to terror. In this bog of failure, moderate Muslims were powerless. They were frequently jailed or killed.

The situation's hopelessness argued for a hard shove from the United States to create a new dynamic. Installing a democratic government in Iraq would force a new dawn. Newly empowered Muslim democrats would reform their societies, negotiate peace with Israel and get on with the business of building prosperous, middle-class societies.

It was a beautiful dream, and even when the administration was asserting things that turned out not to be true, it held the dream out there for all to contemplate.

Consider Vice President Cheney's address before the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Aug. 26, 2002, one of the earliest major public arguments the administration made for war. The lead of the news stories was Cheney's claim that there was "no doubt" that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was prepared to use them. "The risks of inaction are far greater than the risk of action," Cheney declared.

But then there was the delightful promise of what American success in Iraq could achieve. "Extremists in the region would have to rethink their strategy of jihad," Cheney said. "Moderates throughout the region would take heart, and our ability to advance the Israeli-Palestinian peace process would be enhanced."


GravatarYa know Woodie - I've never been into all that fake-ass shit in my life. I enjoy real things, our now 5 pets....er members of our family here. They all are equal members. Treated and loved equally - they all recognize the fact that someone is missing.

Even Freckles, our cat who doesn't really socialize much - has been giving us inordinate attention and affection in the past couple of days, including laying on the couch - on TOP OF the wife, while her cat Snookie (who is 16) was sleeping on her.

This is behavior never before witnessed. Freckles has been with us 8 or 9 years now. She used to be completely attached to me, until I removed the carpet and layed down Pergo in the house. Since then, she has turned into a very reclusive kitty.

Another thing too... all 3 cats have done the nose touching with Zophie and Bullwinkle since Katie has been gone, and they've been inside. They don't like the dogs being in, but they're tolerating it, and accepting of it. Nobody has really gotten upset over it yet.

And, that's good.


GravatarWGG, nice prose - you must be an early morning writer. (I never used to be, but we get old. Early in the day, the thoughts are more clear and the words more accessible now)
DWD - UAW Local 8(Ret) | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 8:48 am


thanks, brother...i cant sustain it, though...i have the attention span of a young Jack Russel...
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GravatarDionne concludes:
The case for reducing our commitment to Iraq in the interest of other and larger foreign policy purposes -- has anyone noticed the growing mess in Afghanistan? -- is built on a compelling proposition: that the administration made a huge bet on Iraq and it lost. American voters can decide to keep the gamble going, to risk more lives and money, and hope that something turns up. Or they can decide that this gamble will never deliver the winnings that those who took it on our behalf promised.

By late November of this year, the United States will have been at war in Iraq for as long as we were involved in World War II. Under those circumstances, the burden of proof should not be on those who argue for changing what we're doing. It should be on those who set a failed policy in motion and keep promising, despite the evidence, that it will somehow pay off if only we "stay the course."


GravatarDWD - UAW Local 8(Ret)

Have you heard the Springsteen Seeger sessions? He did just that, and it's wonderful.


GravatarHave you heard the Springsteen Seeger sessions? He did just that, and it's wonderful.
Virginia - 8:54 am


That album rocks...i want 'The Boss' to do a woody guthrie homage...


GravatarI've always loved Pete Seeger, and it's great if young people can appreciate him, but they need to find their own voices.


GravatarI knew I shouldn't have turned on CSPAN. Little college bitch saying there is a grass roots effort on campus to privatize Social Security. She has been well indoctrinated.


GravatarBy the way, "the first half of the year was the warmest on record for the USA."
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GravatarKarin,

I read that article yesterday (I think) It frustrated me then, as it does now.

I am with WGG, I really do not think there is a solution to these problems. Prolly the only one that would work is a general strike or some massive action: and that is not gonna happen.

The voting is suspect. The advertising too slick. Those with the most money have the biggest voice. People are so busy trying to scramble to make ends meet that they have little time for rational thought. The news media simply refuses to tell the story and instead simply report what they are told. It is not a good situation.

Take this Israeli war going on now: how in the hell can these people justify killing thousands because of racial and religious hatred? How can we condone this?


GravatarGood morning.

A spoiler full review of the new Tenacious D movie.
It's a musical so there really isn't much to spoil.

Also Briscoe County Jr. is coming out on DVD Tuesday.
Booyah!


GravatarI have heard most of the SPringsteen album, I may have to buy it but I do not even own a CD player anymore . . . (I suppose I could rip it onto the computer?)


GravatarI knew I shouldn't have turned on CSPAN. Little college bitch saying there is a grass roots effort on campus to privatize Social Security. She has been well indoctrinated.
ql in ny - 8:58 am


there's gonna be an intergenerational war--we've already seen the early skirmishes here, in the squabbles between the boomers and the rest of us. it will be very profitable...
and they will eventually "win", though they'll live to regret it...
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GravatarI knew I shouldn't have turned on CSPAN. Little college bitch saying there is a grass roots effort on campus to privatize Social Security. She has been well indoctrinated.
ql in ny - 8:58 am


Sheesh, you'd think that after the rough week Wall Street just had, folks wouldn't be so anxious to gamble on the stock market.


GravatarI learned to drive on a bug-eyed sprite. No rollup windows, no trunk, no door handles. excellent little machine to get killed in. It was really a lot of fun, even though it rarely wanted to start in the slightest humididty, but you could push it your self on the slightest grade, jump in, throw it in gear, pop the clutch and away we go! Eventually got into a Triumph Spitfire, more advanced version or sprite, had actual windows. fucker still wouldn't start, though.


Gravatarand they will eventually "win", though they'll live to regret it...
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WoodyGuthrie'sGitarinho


I kind of do think they will win just because the vast majority of the population just isn't paying attention. That's why an activist minority are managing to completely destroy the very foundation of our country. A little bit here, a little bit there and before you know it, we are in a fascist state. Look how successful the group trying to restore abortion rights in S. Dakota has been. It was not until the right was actually taken away that people woke up.


GravatarRight DWD, the chances of a mass action in this country are pretty low. The American pipples are notoriously ahistorical, apolitical, and blind to their own self interest. (I'm talking about the white population, btw)


GravatarAnyone (besides me) ever read Father Greeley? He has a pretty nice column here: rational and intelligent and well-written.

Iraq war was lost the day it started

http://www.suntimes.com/output/g...dt- greel14.html


GravatarWarning! if they wanna take social security away, they're gonna have to come after me well-armed, and willing to die...

my wages have supported two generations of the elderly and the ill, and the disadvantaged, and if these snivelling little shits wanna now cut me off, they're gonna have the fight of their young lives on their hands...
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GravatarThat album rocks...i want 'The Boss' to do a woody guthrie homage...
WoodyGuthrie'sGitarinho


That would be great.

I have driven my husband near crazy with the Springsteen, although it's the first thing he's ever asked me for a burn of, so I know he likes it.


Gravatarronjazz, I had a 65 AH Sprite - though it kind of looked and acted like a MG Midget.


Gravatarbut you could push it your self on the slightest grade, jump in, throw it in gear, pop the clutch and away we go!

That was how I used to start my brother's VW bug.


Gravatar Anyone (besides me) ever read Father Greeley? He has a pretty nice column here: rational and intelligent and well-written.

I always enjoy his columns. Thanks for the link.


Gravatar (I suppose I could rip it onto the computer?)
DWD


That's where my copy lives!


GravatarI learned to drive on a bug-eyed sprite. No rollup windows, no trunk, no door handles. excellent little machine to get killed in.
ronjazz, haloscrewed


Hey... sounds like a great reason to upgrade to a Hummer. Though I guess in a Hummer you'd lose that low center of gravity and feeling of hugging the ground.


Gravatarronjazz, I had a 65 AH Sprite - though it kind of looked and acted like a MG Midget.
DWD - UAW Local 8(Ret) - 9:07 am


when i got out o service in '68, i bought a 58 Bug-Eye, which i loved...later i gotta job as a bartender in a pretty seedy neighborhood, and one night after closing, i went outside to find five really beefy guys trying to hoist it onto the bed of a truck...they dropped it when i hollered...and it never ran right again...
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