I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarweeee


Gravatarproportionate


GravatarThe NYC Eschatonian pic-nic is to-day.


Gravatarhmm, the reporters are feeling the heat? poor babes, damned if they lie by frothy bloggers, damned if they tell the truth by demented wingnuts. might as well tell the truth.


GravatarBloggers = liberals = unAmerican = pussies.
Isn't that the point?


GravatarWell, to be fair, we do screech.


Gravatar The NYC Eschatonian pic-nic is to-day.

You lout, you spoiled the secret.


GravatarWe all knew about the pique-nique, anyway.


GravatarIt should be hot enough not to wear pants in new York.


GravatarWell, it's just 11:00 AM and it's already 88 degrees here! Oh joy! Oh rapture!

You'll have to let me know how Terry C's potato salad is...I sent her the recipe.


Gravatar It should be hot enough not to wear pants in new York.

What a city!


GravatarIt should be hot enough not to wear pants in new York.


Well, there is that singing cowboy, down by Times Square!


GravatarOh, did ya soon n69n is featured in Broadway World?


Gravatarproportionate


I note with interest how studiously Atrios seems to be avoiding any mention of this very important story, which has been dominating his discussiuon threads for days. No mention of it on Kos, either.


Gravatarto see my thread killing abililties are intact/ From the previous thread:

I greatly admire Secretary Albright. She was a true diplomat. Her handling of the wingnuts in the Senate are testimony to that.
apres moi | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 11:13 a


GravatarThis is just a little, pissant local thing, but there was a letter to the editor in my hometown paper this week that compared the phrase "liberal Christian" to "Jewish Nazi". Of course the rest of the letter was the usual mix of right-wing propaganda, benighted ignorance, and religious neurosis that usually accompanies such letters. I have been labelled a "Bush-hater" in the same letters section for criticizing the response to Katrina.

I am deeply concerned about the reaction that kind of person is going to have if we take back Congress this fall. I suspect that "God" might tell them it's open season on anybody they disagree with.


GravatarWell, it's just 11:00 AM and it's already 88 degrees here! Oh joy! Oh rapture!


It's cold as a welldigger's ass here in SF this morning. It might be a good day to flee to the relative warmth of Walnut Creek today......


GravatarNTodd--as for children screwing up your brain more than it already is: why do you think God invented alcohol?


GravatarIt's cold as a welldigger's ass here in SF this morning.

SF: My. favorite. city.


GravatarSallyh,

I'm curious: have you ever heard anything further from our mutual friend?

I haven't.


GravatarIt might be a good day to flee to the relative warmth of Walnut Creek today......

or the buffer zone of the Berkeley Hills or Orinda.


Gravatarwhy do you think God invented alcohol?

Do destroy my liver?

And now I must motivate--gotta leave soon for the Very Secret Piquenique.


Gravatarhmm -lucky well digger. it's almost 90 here already.


GravatarIs there an exact location for the picnic?


GravatarIs there an exact location for the picnic?


It's a secret.


Gravatarsalvage from the joke memory hole:

"Joe Lieberman placed fifth in the New Hampshire primary, claimed it was a three-way tie for third. Lost by 30 points, but is staying in. I think he's taking up history here. He wants a chance to prove that losing in 2000 was no fluke." —Bill Maher

"Lieberman did well in the exit polls. Every poll said he should exit. ... He came in fifth. The man skipped Iowa and moved to New Hampshire. Even Seabiscuit is going, 'Lieberman give it up.'" —Jay Leno

"The rumor is Lieberman may be suspending his campaign. He said he's going to pool all his remaining resources and just play Lotto. The odds are better." —Jay Leno

"Good news for Democratic hopeful Joe Lieberman. According to the polls, he just pulled ahead of mad cow disease." —Craig Kilborn


GravatarIs there an exact location for the picnic?

Sheep's Meadow, by the zoo. Meet at 12.

Bring a hat, we need another one.


GravatarDon't you mean "Oh joy! The rapture" like the nuts next door?


Gravatarsome people say "mad cow disease" would kowtow to the republicans.


Gravatarrabid lambofacsists


GravatarHow do you spell Cheney?

"I'm still constrained as a reporter," Novak said in an interview. "It was not on the record, and he has never revealed himself as being the source, and until he does I don't feel I should."

http://tinyurl.com/lxo2m


GravatarThere's a picnic? oh. Did I misplace my invite?


GravatarA. Sheep Meadow is in a different place from the Zoo.

B. I can't be there at 12.


GravatarVicki--I heeer nuthink. I see nuthink. I know nuthink.


Gravatarlieberman says "my opponent, mad cow disease, is a known bovofascist, and would probably vote with the republicans."


GravatarWill there be a Philadelphia picnic?


Gravataror the buffer zone of the Berkeley Hills or Orinda.


I am regrettably not of a social class that is permitted to inhabit those regions.

My work is in the City, my house is in the upper flats of Berkeley, and my parents live on the lower slopes of Mount Diablo. Berkely an WC are expensive enough, but scarcely touch the prodigious excess of wealth that is required to inhabit the Berkeley hills or Orinda.


GravatarVicki--I heeer nuthink. I see nuthink. I know nuthink.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


That's what I figured. I might try a friendly hello...it's been quite a while.

Just wanna let said individual know that people care...


GravatarOh my Deity.

Bush suggested to Putin that Putin should try to make Russia a flourishing democracy like Iraq.


GravatarI'm off to have a meeting of the minds with my shower stall.


GravatarMorning, rationalistas.

Well, it's just 11:00 AM and it's already 88 degrees here! Oh joy! Oh rapture!

Here in the beautiful, but sun-blasted west San Fernando Valley, I believe it's supposed to be about 106 today. My sister-in-law is trying to get me to give up the toon biz and move to Anchorage, AK. Maybe she has a point.


Gravatarreporters are complaining they feel "intimidated" because "most of the blogosphere spends hours making them feel that way."

Watchdogs are intimidating. They're fierce. They make noise, they show their teeth and they'll make no bones about going after a shady character. And they'll rip something to shreds to get to the truth.

Hard to believe, but there used to be a time when reporters were watchdogs.


Gravatar Is there an exact location for the picnic?

Latitude: 40.7719
Longitude: -73.9755


Gravatarthat was an excellent article by Kevin Baker, in Harpers, about the "stabbed in the back" myth. i think i'll buy one of his books.


GravatarIs there an exact location for the picnic?

Follow the trail of ants.


Gravatarcatch you all laters


Gravatar
Bush suggested to Putin that Putin should try to make Russia a flourishing democracy like Iraq.
previously pre, rank amateur


I

FUCKING

GIVE

UP

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GravatarIt's cold as a welldigger's ass here in SF this morning. It might be a good day to flee to the relative warmth of Walnut Creek today......

Ah, the wintry days of July in SF. The first time I visited The City, it was the middle of July, and I had made the mistake of not bringing a jacket along. Had to buy one off the street for 2 bucks.

And I love those July weather forecasts in SF: "Morning fog followed by noontime clearing. Highs 60s to 90s." 60s to 90s???? I found out that that translates to 60s in The City, 70s to low 80s in East Bay, and 90s on the far side of the Berkeley Hills.

I took a trip on BART out to Concord, and it was 92 degrees there. After a 40 minute ride back to The City, when I got out at Powell Street station, it was 55 degrees.


GravatarIt might be a good day to flee to the relative warmth of Walnut Creek today...

When I lived in SF, my mother would not allow me to visit her in the San Joaquin Valley from June to September. She would come visit me.


GravatarOF course, back in the old days (pre-air conditioning in every home), San Francisco used to flood Central Valley newspapers in the summer with ads featuring a shivering penguin and the tagline "It's COOL in San Francisco!"


GravatarNinety-one companies that didn't regularly grant stock options in September [2001] did so in the first two weeks of trading after the terror attack. Their grants were concentrated around Sept. 21, when the market reached its post-attack low. They were worth about $325 million when granted, based on a standard method of valuing stock options."

What makes this so pathetic is that corporate executives could have stepped up AND BOUGHT STOCKS IN THE OPEN MARKET if they believed they were so cheap. It would have been reassuring to a nation to see the leaders of industry voting with their own dollars. It might have made the subsequent economic slow down and period of tense aftermath less painful.>

Instead, these weasels decided to loot the treasury at the first opportunity. America was smouldering, the WTC lay in ruins, and this group of classless pigs decided it was time to pocket some cash.

Proves yet again that Marx was right. "All that is holy is profaned."

Cocksuckers!


GravatarA HUGE DICK RULES THE WORLD!!!!!!!
As one tracks the career of Dick Cheney, it becomes clear that his philosophy is such that detente is antithetical to his vision of an America atop the power pyramid. He and many of those who have been key players in the Bush administration foreign policy strategy have a long history of opposition to detente. The 9/11 attack simply provided the nexus to proceed with the agenda now defined as neoconservatism and the doctrine of preemption. Prior to being defined as neoconservatives, the alliance took the form of a group identified as Team B.
From The Long March of Dick Cheney by Sidney Blumenthal - November 28, 2005:
The origin of Cheney’s alliance with the neoconservatives goes back to his instrumental support for Team B. Upon being appointed secretary of defense by the elder Bush, he kept on Wolfowitz as undersecretary. And Wolfowitz kept on his deputy, his former student at the University of Chicago, Scooter Libby. Earlier, Wolfowitz and Libby had written a document expressing suspicion of Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev’s liberalizing perestroika and warning against making deals with him, a document that President Reagan ignored as he made an arms control agreement and proclaimed that the Cold War was ending.

After the Gulf War victory, in 1992, Cheney approved a new “Defense Planning Guidance” advocating U.S. unilateralism in the post-Cold War, a document whose final draft was written by Libby. Cheney assumed Republican rule for the indefinite future.
The motivation behind the drafting of the DPG centered on the concern that with the fall of the Soviet Union, the defeat of Sadaam Hussein in the Gulf War, and with no apparent superpowers to compete with the U.S., there may be a move towards demilitarization. In order to prevent any such actions and to avoid a return to detente, the DPG was drafted and recommended the following:
From Philip S. Golub in Le Monde diplomatique - March, 2003:
“preventing a hostile power from dominating regions whose resources would allow it to attain great power status, discouraging attempts by the advanced industrial nations to challenge US leadership or upset the established political and economic order, and precluding the emergence of any potential future global competitor” (12).
Golub goes on to explain how 9/11 not only provided for the continuation of the neoconservative philosophy, it allowed for the addition of the doctrine of preemption.


GravatarThrough about the 1940s, San Francisco merchants used to sponsor a free round-trip electric train trip from Chico, so that women could hop on the morning train for SF, beat the heat of the day, and make it back to Chico in time to cook a late dinner.


Gravatarwell, here in the hills of central texas it is 83* at the moment. However, it has been smelling like fall for the last several days. The deer are starting to turn black on their backs and the chile`s are ripening very early. I have a funny feeling that we are in for some cold early fall weather very soon.


GravatarIt's COOL in San Francisco!"


Well, it IS cool in San Francisco!

I hear my ex-SF lover is coming to town next week for a visit. This is the way it will go: He'll call me, wanting to get together. We'll see each other, and then he'll start arguing with me about shallow things, which will propel me into a cycle of trying to date anyone but him again.


GravatarWhen I lived in SF, my mother would not allow me to visit her in the San Joaquin Valley from June to September. She would come visit me.
dave™©


If it isn't 105, you haven't broken the insufferable threshold yet. Scheduled for 104 today, and 105+ tomorrow. Makes me miss Sausalito with a passion.

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GravatarJoin the petition on Media Matters.


GravatarEchidne beat me to it... but I've got the link!

So there!!!


GravatarSausalito is the best.


Gravatar...then he'll start arguing with me about shallow things, which will propel me into a cycle of trying to date anyone but him again.

Looks like I picked the wrong decade to get married!


Gravatar"I think — tide turning — see, as I remember — I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of — it's easy to see a tide turn — did I say those words?" —George W. Bush


GravatarWhen I lived in SF, my mother would not allow me to visit her in the San Joaquin Valley from June to September. She would come visit me.


Having grown up in DC and Durham, NC, the dry heat of Walnut Creek and points east is delightfully pleasant to me, at least if there is shade and water nearby. I find the leaden fog of SF to be a drag. Berkeley, OTOH, can be pretty awsome. Some summers, there is a light fog in the morning followed by a high of 75-80 day after day after day. I thinkj only the climate of LA near the ocean is more consistently pleasant. But for that, of course, you'd have to live in LA (shudder...)


GravatarThrough about the 1940s, San Francisco merchants used to sponsor a free round-trip electric train trip from Chico, so that women could hop on the morning train for SF, beat the heat of the day, and make it back to Chico in time to cook a late dinner.

Thank you, GM, for dismantling the Key System.


GravatarI sure hope the Dems have a plan to fight filth and scum in November 'cause this isn't as ugly as it's going to get and it's already hard to look at - I mean the subject(s)in today's 3 posts make me want to vomit


GravatarThrough about the 1940s, San Francisco merchants used to sponsor a free round-trip electric train trip from Chico, so that women could hop on the morning train for SF, beat the heat of the day, and make it back to Chico in time to cook a late dinner.
Moe Szyslak


Electric?

To San Francisco?

One day round trip in time to cook dinner?

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GravatarMorning mates.

I have a questioin for the geeks, that I cannot figure ont for myself.

What is the end part of this addy called?

www.mywebaddress.com/anypace.htm

Can someone tell me? I'm having difficulty in setting up my new website and this is tha last hurdle. It does'nt seem to work for me in IE, or firefox. I keep gettting a 404 error.


GravatarMorning mates.

I have a questioin for the geeks, that I cannot figure ont for myself.

What is the end part of this addy called?

www.mywebaddress.com/anypace.htm

Can someone tell me? I'm having difficulty in setting up my new website and this is tha last hurdle. It does'nt seem to work for me in IE, or firefox. I keep gettting a 404 error.


GravatarI was raised in the desert,

New England is a desert?


Gravatar"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing about him is that I read three — three or four books about him last year. Isn't that interesting?" —George W. Bush


I sure thope he repubs have a plan.....


GravatarSausalito is the best.


If you can afford it.....


GravatarSeptember and October can be scorching in the Bay Area; SF's clearest, warmest months and the anniversary of the Berkeley Hills Fire, no?


GravatarElectric?

To San Francisco?

One day round trip in time to cook dinner?

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Al Swearengen


Yep. It was called the Sacramento Northern Electric Railway Company. Hourly trains from Chico to Sacramento, with fewer, but (iirc) four or five a day down to SF.


GravatarElectric?

To San Francisco?

One day round trip in time to cook dinner?


Behold the wonders of the Key System!


GravatarI

FUCKING

GIVE

UP

!!!
Attaturk | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 11:37 am | #


So did Putin, apparently.


Gravatarsmallfish, this might help...I'll keep looking.

http://www.cafeaulait.org/course...e/week5/ 04.html


GravatarSausalito is the best.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore


Lived there of seven years. Marin for fifteen, mostly southern. Mill Valley was very cool, and Tiburon was private and pastoral (at least where I lived). San Rafael got a little warm in summer sometimes, but was better for family life. Sausalito was sublime, especially if you could live next to the water as I did.

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Gravatar"Finally, the desk, where we'll have our picture taken in front of -- is nine other Presidents used it. This was given to us by Queen Victoria in the 1870s, I think it was. President Roosevelt put the door in so people would not know he was in a wheelchair. John Kennedy put his head out the door." —George W. Bush


GravatarSacramento Northern Railway

The Sacramento Northern Railway began as an electric interurban railway system in the U.S. state of California, operating under that name between 1918 and 1983. It was a subsidiary of the Western Pacific Railroad from 1921. Passenger service ceased in 1941 and the system operated as a shortline freight-hauling railroad thereafter.

The Sacramento Northern Railway was created out of two different systems; one, the "North End", stretched north of Sacramento through the agricultural Sacramento Valley to Chico and was originally the Northern Electric Railway. This portion reformed as the Sacramento Northern in 1918. The "South End" linked Oakland with Sacramento, and was merged into the Sacramento Northern in 1928. It was formerly known as the San Francisco–Sacramento Railroad, and before that the Oakland, Antioch and Eastern Railway. The merged portions used different electrical standards, and only some cars could traverse the entire route.

The line was one of the longest interurban runs in the nation, and was built and operated to very high standards. As with most interurban systems, passenger service became increasingly unprofitable, even after the cars entered San Francisco itself via the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge from 1939. Freight service was increasingly the lifeblood of the railroad, keeping it in service long after passenger service ceased.


GravatarThrough about the 1940s, San Francisco merchants used to sponsor a free round-trip electric train trip from Chico, so that women could hop on the morning train for SF, beat the heat of the day, and make it back to Chico in time to cook a late dinner.
Moe Szyslak


Chico? Wow, that's a long way. I was in Chico a few years ago in the summertime. It's actualy a pretty nice town. They have this low dam on Chico Creek in the middle of town that has created a delightful public swimming area surrounded by a nice city park with well-kept lawns and picnic tables, etc. We spent a lovely afternoon there on the way home from Lassen after the 4th of July.


GravatarI was raised in the desert,

Maybe he meant that he was a raisin in the dessert.


GravatarI've taken to printing out Foser's pieces and handing the out to people at work. He's doing an excellent job of exposing -- and documenting, with links and citations -- what's really been going on. For busy people who don't get their news anywhere but newspapers and tv, what he points out is often a revelation.


GravatarAnd here's the Sacramento Northern.


GravatarHere's a neat little website that it appears the trools that hang around here frequent. The comments sound exactly like Auggy, Assvestus, and the like:

http://tinyurl.com/jumag


Gravatarsmallfish, it looks as if that part is the index html file


GravatarCan someone tell me? I'm having difficulty in setting up my new website and this is tha last hurdle. It does'nt seem to work for me in IE, or firefox. I keep gettting a 404 error.

If you use a PC / Windows, think of it like folders and files. Like C:/My Documents/neatfile.htm

You could call neatfile.htm the file. On your server, it's an HTML file that's titled neatfile.htm -- when someone tries to visit your site and types in the Web address, they're essentially telling your server to go to that directory and send them the file of that name.


GravatarDrive-By:

Sign a fucking petition?

oh, yeah, like THAT's gonna make a big impression...

tell ya what, here's a better idea: lets get all the lefty and the righty bloggers together, supply 'em all with 2x4s and agree to publish the one's still standing when the melee is over...

shit, i might even get some 'hits' in...
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Gravatar"That's called, A Charge To Keep, based upon a religious hymn. The hymn talks about serving God. The president's job is never to promote a religion." —George W. Bush
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I think the raisin resides in bush's skull bone. =)


GravatarWe make them (the press) feel self-conscious? We intimidate them? They take potshots at us, too, every fucking chance they get. I just cannot understand why the MSM continues to kowtow to these right wingnuts when they're the ones advocating murder and the End of Days.

Speaking of which... that was fast! Mo Do, after getting back on the political beat for just one day, is back to writing more fluff pieces for the NY Times, this one being entitled, What's Up, Slut? What's the matter, Mo Do, aren't there enough assclowns to inspire you to get back on the Beltway beat?


Gravatarblerb -- I lived in Chico for 15 years, and still consider it "home." Go in Duffy's Tavern and mention my name-- they'll either kick you out or buy you a drink.


Gravatarsmallfish, it looks as if that part is the index html file
SHG | 07.15.06 - 11:53 am | #


If you want them to be able to type in a directory without the file name, like

http://www.google.com/

Then use index.htm or index.html as the filename.


Gravatarsmallfish, this might help...I'll keep looking.

Well hit me with the stupid stick and call me ignorant. I just figured out what I was doing wrong.



Stay tuned for a new website link from me in the very near future.


Gravatarsmallfish, this might help...I'll keep looking.

Well hit me with the stupid stick and call me ignorant. I just figured out what I was doing wrong.



Stay tuned for a new website link from me in the very near future.


Gravatartell ya what, here's a better idea: lets get all the lefty and the righty bloggers together, supply 'em all with 2x4s and agree to publish the one's still standing when the melee is over...

I don't blog, but I sure would like to get in on this...


GravatarExactly how fucked are we?


GravatarLater, fair batses.

Time for me to cleanse and meditate.

Peace out. Have a lovely day.


GravatarFux news banner just now: "Dems' cla$$ warfare: good for stocks and GOP?"


GravatarI just cannot understand why the MSM continues to kowtow to these right wingnuts when they're the ones advocating murder and the End of Days.

CNN established itself as a major news outlet during the first gulf war. War is good for ratings. It's in their interest for there to be a war. It's official. I'm a conspiracy nut, but that's what I believe.


Gravatari might even get some 'hits' in...



Gravatar"I was not pleased that Hamas has refused to announce its desire to destroy Israel." —George W. Bush
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"Dems' cla$$ warfare: good for stocks and GOP?"

Faux New's
war on christmas
war on easter
war on libruls
war on ______


GravatarIn the center of downtown San Francisco, a traveler could board one of the line's massive wooden interurban combines to begin a 185-mile journey through the heart of northern California. The trip opened by crossing San Francisco Bay on the lower deck of the gigantic Oakland Bay Bridge. After passing through several prosperous East Bay communities, the train was taken across Suisun Bay aboard the car ferry Ramon. A high speed run through the Sacramento Delta's rolling farm country brought the train to Sacramento, California's capital and the journey's half-way point. North of Sacramento, the electric train sped past more farms and orchards, stopping briefly in the important city of Marysville. Finally the train arrived at its final destination, Chico. The trip took just over six hours, including stops and the ferry ride.

Learn something new every day (if you're smart).

It's still not clear how you could make the trip, shop and return in time to cook dinner, however.
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GravatarI don't blog, but I sure would like to get in on this...

Do what I did and you can become an A-list blogger in under ten minutes!


GravatarChimpy to Pootie-Poot

I, of course -- we talked philosophy. One thing, what happens when you get relaxed and are friendly with each other, you're able to share philosophies and able to ask questions about decision-making.


Gravatarhttp://www.people.virginia.edu/~...9y/ history.html


Gravatar"Dems' cla$$ warfare: good for stocks and GOP?"


Larry Kudlow must write their crawl.


Gravataror the buffer zone of the Berkeley Hills or Orinda.
plantsman, lowercase
yes much better
I used to take refuge up at Redwood Park or any of the parks dotted along the east bay hills.


GravatarGo in Duffy's Tavern and mention my name-- they'll either kick you out or buy you a drink.


Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to do that the next time I'm there......


GravatarWhen asked on US television if she thought that the death of half a million Iraqi children was a price worth paying, Albright replied: "This is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it."

Although I agree that their professional predecessors are superior to the current crop of faux-cowboy and wingnut hacks and provocateurs posing as diplomats, from Cabinet-level on down, the above remark cooled off my appreciation of Ms. Albright considerably.

Hey, if I hadn't brought it up, Woody would've.


GravatarI've taken to printing out Foser's pieces and handing the out to people at work.

Would you happen to have some links? I don't know offhand if I've read anything by Foser.


GravatarChimpy

Russia suffered through one of the most horrible terrorist incidents in modern mankind, which is Beslan, where terrorists are willing to kill young children to achieve political objectives.


GravatarI used to take refuge up at Redwood Park or any of the parks dotted along the east bay hills.


I prefer Tilden, myself. I have often sneeringly refereed to Redwood as "dogshit regional park", although, to be fair, they have cleaned up the trails quite a bit in recent years.....


GravatarChimpy's soulmate

PRESIDENT PUTIN: I have already mentioned that we will not participate in any crusades, in any holy alliances. This is true. I reaffirm our position in this matter.


GravatarHey, if I hadn't brought it up, Woody would've.
Little Brøther - 12:01 pm


consistent, but not (i hope) foolish...


GravatarIt's still not clear how you could make the trip, shop and return in time to cook dinner, however.

Welll, they advertised as much in the Chico papers. I dunno-- down at five in the morning, get there for lunch and a couple of hours shopping in the department store, back by 8? Yea, okay, I guess they had maids and whatnot cook the dinner. Anyway, I've seen lots of ads in the Chico papers advertising the day trips down to SF for shopping, all for free, including the lunch.


Gravatar"I strongly believe what we're doing is the right thing. If I didn't believe it — I'm going to repeat what I said before — I'd pull the troops out, nor if I believed we could win, I would pull the troops out." —George W. Bush


Lord I beg you to save us from these fools....


GravatarWe spent a lovely afternoon there on the way home from Lassen after the 4th of July.
blerb


Lassen is a beautiful park isn't it. I climbed it when I was in my 20s. Climbed Castle Crags dome too, but not Shasta, which is a step above Lassen in altitude (and danger).

There was a time when Shasta had one of the longest chairlifts in the world, and it took you to roughly 1,400 feet below the summit. You were above the cloud cover in most cases, an in howling wind. It was likely trying to ski a windswept glacier.


GravatarWell, to be fair, we do screech.
NTodd, Thug


Also, to be fair, I am pretty fucking angry. Although I'm not a blogger, just a hanger-on.


GravatarI was anonymous.


GravatarChimpy's soulmate

All Bush said was that he saw Putin's soul. At which point he dove underneath the bed and shivered until dawn.


GravatarClimbed Castle Crags dome too, but not Shasta, which is a step above Lassen in altitude (and danger).

My former fiancee's former husband died from a fall while climbing Mt. Shasta.


GravatarWould you happen to have some links? I don't know offhand if I've read anything by Foser.

If you click on the Media Matters box on Atrios' page, you'll see that he's written either two or three pieces similar to today's. I think Atrios has linked to them, as well, but they've each been several weeks apart.


GravatarI, of course -- we talked philosophy. One thing, what happens when you get relaxed and are friendly with each other, you're able to share philosophies and able to ask questions about decision-making.
P O'Neill | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 11:59 am | #

but how much tummy-kissing went on?


GravatarAlso, to be fair, I am pretty fucking angry. Although I'm not a blogger, just a hanger-on.
Virginia | 07.15.06 - 12:04 pm | #


Did you read that Harper's article that Atrios linked to yesterday? Pure brilliance, and a cogent argument for why the right wing has postured themselves as anti-angry and the left as back-stabbing. Actually, it frames the entire political right wing in a context where everything they say and do makes perfect sense, without deferring to some kind of impractical mass conspiracy.


GravatarOT- We have an air show in Milwaukee today. This is just a display of militarism in my opinion. The USAF Thunderbirds are the main event. I would rather see our soldiers get armor and vests than have these stunt pilots wasting fuel flying in dangerous formations that have nothing to do with tactical manuevers.

Peace be with all.


GravatarMy former fiancee's former husband died from a fall while climbing Mt. Shasta.
Moe Szyslak


Yikes! It's usually the weather that does it.

I had a close call on the Castle Crags climb. Rounded granite. You get out to see over the edge and soon realize the pull of gravitiy and the slope you've put yourself on make further movement very risky. I didn't much like that experience.

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GravatarPRESIDENT PUTIN: We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, I will tell you quite honestly. (Laughter.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Just wait.


GravatarOT
What makes this country great? Now's the time to buy a really big SUV 'cause you'll get such a deal on the purchase price it will more than make up for the price of gasoline.
May God continue to bless America.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn...V.aspx? GT1=8386
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GravatarI strongly believe what we're doing is the right thing. If I didn't believe it — I'm going to repeat what I said before — I'd pull the troops out,

Surprisingly, the women of Iraq might disagree.


GravatarI was anonymous. | Moe Szyslak - 12:04 pm

Don't beat yourself up-- we were all born anonymous...


GravatarIf you click on the Media Matters box on Atrios' page, you'll see that he's written either two or three pieces similar to today's. I think Atrios has linked to them, as well, but they've each been several weeks apart.

Oh, OK. I read Media Matters regularly without bothering to notice who writes what because I enjoy pretty much every observation they post (although sometimes I lose personal interest in the Catching [name] In A Lie posts, though I am glad that someone is doing that fact-checking).


GravatarPRESIDENT BUSH: Just wait.
P O'Neill |


Put in on the list Mr. Bush right after the "statue of George Bush to be erected on some grand square in the middle of Baghdad".
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Gravatarpreviously pre, rank amateur

Yes, I thought it was excellent, although just plain depressing.


GravatarWhen asked on US television if she thought that the death of half a million Iraqi children was a price worth paying, Albright replied: "This is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it."

Is this even possible??? WTF? Let's kill them all and let their fucking god sort it out- this is so fucking disgusting - so ignorant selfish murederous hateful and EVIL - but we're shrill


GravatarP O'Neill, please tell me that was something you typed to be humorous. Please tell me Bush didn't actually say that.


GravatarPRESIDENT PUTIN: We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, I will tell you quite honestly. (Laughter.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Just wait.
P O'Neill


Well, Putin put the smackdown on Fifi didn't he?

The problem with Fifi (Bush) is he doesn't know when to shut up. Instead, he offers a stupid rejoinder that further emphasizes his ineptitude, which is why he's so much like a neurotic miniature poodle.


GravatarPRESIDENT BUSH: Just wait.
P O'Neill |


Putin should have asked how many Friedman Units he should wait.


GravatarI'd just like to note that the Google ads on this page are currently for Giuliani and the Libertarian Party. Ah, context.


GravatarPRESIDENT PUTIN: We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, I will tell you quite honestly. (Laughter.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Just wait.
P O'Neill


I'd love to read the dossier on Bush the FSB gives to Putin to prep him for the meetings.
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GravatarPRESIDENT BUSH: Just wait.
P O'Neill


Which sounds like, "Just wait -- you will have a democracy like Iraq's," but he is just too fucking stupid and tone deaf to hear that.

Somebody save us! Hellllllllp! We are being held prisoner by an idiot psychopath boy-king!


GravatarYou know, Albright shouldn't have said that. She was discussing the sanctions against Iraq under Clinton, not Bush's war. How many children have died due to Bush's war? And how many women have been raped? It's kind of silly to be screaming about how bad the sanctions were at this point. I imagine Iraqi women would consider them the lesser of two evils.


GravatarThe problem with Fifi (Bush) is he doesn't know when to shut up. Instead, he offers a stupid rejoinder that further emphasizes his ineptitude, which is why he's so much like a neurotic miniature poodle.
Al Swearengen


He's just trying to recall the talking points he tried to memorize the night before. Remember, being President is ah...uh...um oh yeah hardly work!
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GravatarAds for Rudy Giuliani and the Libertarian Party?


Gravataroh dear...as a bride of christ, do i wear black or white?


GravatarYes, I thought it was excellent, although just plain depressing.

Depressing? I feel revitalized.

See, the weakness of dolchstosslegende is its reliance on the covert treachery. If the Harper's article is correct, the more we are vocal in and transparent with our dissent, the less potent their narrative becomes. We are no longer the sneaky villians who back-stab, but rather the hero's identified opponents.


GravatarBreaking - CNN:

AP: Witnesses say Israel has struck central Beirut for first time in offensive


GravatarI imagine Iraqi women would consider them the lesser of two evils.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed

I can't remember who reminded me to read
Riverbend yesterday, but I was glad they did. Sort of. She is living in hell.


GravatarAttaturk | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 12:13 pm | #

Good post over at FDL, Mister Turk.

It's kind of silly to be screaming about how bad the sanctions were at this point.

Except to the extent that the U.S. is considering pushing for sanctions against Iran and North Korea.


GravatarIsrael airstrikes hit Lebanese ports, including Beirut, Junieh and Tripoli, sources say.


GravatarIt's kind of silly to be screaming about how bad the sanctions were at this point.

Hectate, I disagree. I think we should see American policy towards Iraq as a continuum, from Reagan (at least) to Bush II.

I wonder: for Iraqis, would, say, a Hillary Clinton presidency make any difference at all? I doubt it.

Which gets to the heart of election strategy: why should progressives support some pro-war Dem? Makes no sense, imo.

I understand your point, it's just if I were a parent, I wouldn't know which to choose for my kid: death by slow starvation or death by quick bombing.


GravatarPRESIDENT PUTIN: We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, I will tell you quite honestly. (Laughter.)

The Boots & Pootie Show was a good one this time...


GravatarExcept to the extent that the U.S. is considering pushing for sanctions against Iran and North Korea.

Point well taken.


GravatarI'd love to read the dossier on Bush the FSB gives to Putin to prep him for the meetings.
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Agent Orange


As a former KGB officer, you'd think it probing, no?

You no it's bad when deposed Russian leaders expatriated to the USA go public with assessments of Bush that are limited to a single comment. "Well, he is very determined" and then dismisses his entourage as "hollow men."
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Gravatarthat's the first mention of Dennis Miller I've seen/heard in a long time. Even NetZero has dropped him.

Heheheheheh.


GravatarNO FUCKING WAY did Bush say "Just wait."

Did he, seriously?

I am so ashamed to share a nationality with that man.


Gravatarcaught a bit of fox this morning; why does anyone other than a lunatic right winger go on fox? some poor lady; possibly middle of the road surrounded by mouthbreathers procalaiming tax cuts for the wealthy help all. these corporate whores were working the poor gal over 4 to 1.
again; why do sane people appear on this insane network? the money or exposure cannot be that good what with 70 year old viagra chewing wingers the main audience. why????


GravatarGood post over at FDL, Mister Turk.


Seconded. Nice explanation of Bivens.


GravatarAgain, I was anonymous. Damn Haloscan


GravatarIt's kind of silly to be screaming about how bad the sanctions were at this point.

Except to the extent that the U.S. is considering pushing for sanctions against Iran and North Korea.


And sanctions breed hatred-mindsets which breed a permanent breakdown in negotiations which leads, if not to the Iraq war, at least to the kind of suppressive bombing Clinton employed. Which is uncool if it can be prevented.


GravatarWell, I was the disagreeing-with-Hectate anonymous, not the teevee-wingnut-dissing anonymous.


GravatarThe Zionists have taken out a civilian bus in Lebanon, killing 18, including 9 children.


GravatarSanctions on North Korea will only make a miserable situation worse; Iran will find plenty of people to buy their oil, rendering sanctions ineffective.


GravatarNO FUCKING WAY did Bush say "Just wait."

Did he, seriously?

I am so ashamed to share a nationality with that man.
previously pre, rank amateur


PRESIDENT PUTIN: We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, I will tell you quite honestly. (Laughter.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Just wait.

Ctrl+F "wait"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20060715- 1.html


GravatarHere's the full transcript of Chimpy and Pootie-Poot. Pootie-Poot got in 2 excellent digs -- that he wouldn't join any "crusades or holy alliances" and that he doesn't want an Iraqi style democracy. I heard that!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20060715- 1.html


Gravatar"Iraq where there's a free press and free religion" -- Bush

Free religion?


Gravatargreat minds think alike.


GravatarThe Zionists have taken out a civilian bus in Lebanon, killing 18, including 9 children.
James Jesus Rimbaud


Do you think we'll learn the names of those people, with photos and background like the 2 Israeli soldiers who were kidnapped?
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GravatarAgent Orange | 07.15.06 - 12:24 pm | #

I... brain... shutting down. I need to go get something productive done so I can let this slip from my mind as quickly as possible.


GravatarIsrael airstrikes hit Lebanese ports, including Beirut, Junieh and Tripoli, sources say.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore


Hezbollah offers crony-free health care, hospitals and social services while Israel destroys the Lebanese infrastructure. Anyone doubt how the battle for hearts and minds is going to play out in Lebanon?

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Gravatari wish somebody would leak those unreleased photos. fucking republicans trying to cover up, and the democrats that let them. and it's not just the soldiers--there is no way of tracking the civilian contractors. iraq is hell.


Gravataroff the subject, (hey it's saturday!) but, anyone from any of the western/upper tier northwestern states have an inkling why when flying over that area of the country it is progressively clear that the use of a circular contruct is used for farming fields? Is there an advantage? Any reason beyond boredom with square and rectangular fields? an answer of comment would be mucho appreciated


GravatarMorning again, rational people.

I don't suppose we can disavow any knowledge of this imposter passing himself off in Europe as the President of the United States, can we?


GravatarOr the Israeli woman who was killed while on her balcony drinking coffe?


Gravatar"Iraq where there's a free press and free religion" -- Bush

Is anyone at all surprised that someone sent an envelope containing white powder and a "defaced editorial" to the NY Times?

Oh, and I meant to Doctor Turk. All due apologies to the good doctor.


GravatarWhen asked on US television if she thought that the death of half a million Iraqi children was a price worth paying, Albright replied: "This is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it."

How many politicians and officials would have the nads to just say "yeah, we kinda fucked that one up, di'n we?". On the Right or the Left, they almost don't exist.


GravatarFree religion?

Sure! They hand it out for free on the street corners! God, he's stupid. They had freedom of religion in Iraq, to a larger extent than almost anywhere else in the ME before we invaded.


Gravatargreat minds think alike.
P O'Neill |


Sometimes resonance can be destructive.

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GravatarRotary Sprinklers, placed in the center.


GravatarThe differnce is the blood be upon Hezbollah for the murder of the old woman drinking coffee on her balcony. The busload of 18 - well, some of that blood be upon us.


GravatarFree religion?


Check your ID, wrong sect - you're 'free' to die!
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GravatarI don't suppose we can disavow any knowledge of this imposter passing himself off in Europe as the President of the United States, can we?

Someone revoke his passport and stop him from re-entering the country. Let Interpol figure out what to do with him.


GravatarThe Zionists have taken out a civilian bus in Lebanon, killing 18, including 9 children.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 07.15.06 - 12:24 pm | #


Just to be clear, what date are we going to call the official beginning of World War Three?

In my understanding Israel is currently attacking Lebanon, Palestine/Gaza, and Beirut, and is threatening Syria directly. That's three countries that are for all intents and purposes now at war with Israel as we type.

Isn't that, by some standard definition, a pretty good indicator that a World War has started? Not will start or will erupt -- has erupted. At what point do we say it's to be officially designated WW3?


Gravatarcareful there about zionism; any critizism will be met with; "you an anti-semite?".......wonder when we will ever again hear the fucking truth about anything?????


Gravatarthanks plantsman


GravatarEverything the Israelis drop, we make or subsidize.


Gravatari saw an article yesterday by Sidney Blumenthal that recounted a meeting between Bush and 3 iraqi dissident leaders in Jan 2003; the leaders said Bush wasn't familiar with the terms "shiite" and "sunni".


GravatarSomeone revoke his passport and stop him from re-entering the country. Let Interpol figure out what to do with him.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed


:perk:

Hey, now that's a fine idea!


GravatarGeek question -- I know you're out there:

Brilliant husband has an ad for An Inconvenient Truth on his website; he has it in a table that he wants to have a black background. Safari will not render the table in black. Who knows the trick?

URL of the page is wildflphoto.com if you want to look at the source.


GravatarAnyone older here? If so, have you noticed that when typing the fingers don't type the right words like they used to?

Case in point, "you no it's bad." Now the difference between no and know is not a matter of confusion, yet somehow that typed as no. It's like the fingers have a mind of their own sometimes. Typing of for is another common error.

Aging, can't wait to see what comes next.
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Gravatarlol the local radio statio here, Jakk FM, just said, "Finally a radio station for those who ate paste as a kid" =)


GravatarBush points finger at Hezbollah, Syria

Cowboy foreign policy is dead.

Is the king afraid that the government of Lebanon will fall?


Gravatarwonder when we will ever again hear the fucking truth about anything?????

At least for right now, thank goodness, a troll whining that any anti-Israel sentiment can't actually block someone from expressing anti-Israel sentiment in this public forum.

So: we shouldn't be careful. We should just be accurate whenever we can and represent each of our feelings and thoughts as understandably as possible.


GravatarPeople of rank on Air Force One don't go through
customs much. The Press, dunno.


GravatarEverything the Israelis drop, we make or subsidize.
plantsman


Three billion a year for Israeli aid, all of it spent in the United States. Just think of the pork, the graft, the campaign contributions.


GravatarYes I know. I give up worrying about that. I love Jews. Most Israeli jews are not Zionists. The vast majority in fact. I even sympathize with the Zionists among them, because being extradordinarily frightened can cause men to do horrific things.


GravatarThe Zionists have taken out a civilian bus in Lebanon, killing 18, including 9 children.
James Jesus Rimbaud


Hey, it's cool. There was probably a close relative af a person who once went to school with a Hezbollah member waiting with a transfer a couple stops down. Can't be too careful. Omelets must be made. Sorry 'bout the eggs on the sidewalk...


Gravatar wonder when we will ever again hear the fucking truth about anything?????


I happen to think that most people who hang around here are mature enough to know the difference between religion and politics.


GravatarAging, can't wait to see what comes next.

Hopefully, things don't start falling off.


GravatarJust to be clear, what date are we going to call the official beginning of World War Three?

If you told me ten years ago that this battle would occur in 2006 I would believe you. If you added that the US would be involved in an 3 year Middle East land war with 2600 dead Americans, 20,000 wounded and $325+ billion dollars down the drain I would never ever believe this country could be that stupid.
Thanks NeoCons, Repugs, AIPAC, FOXNews et. al. you made the unbelievable happen.
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GravatarSafari will not render the table in black. Who knows the trick?

Do you want to use CSS?

[table style="background:#000;" height="100000" width="2040" border="17"]


Gravatarprogressively clear that the use of a circular contruct is used for farming fields?

Sprinklers.


GravatarHopefully, things don't start falling off.
Max Planck


Nothing's fallen off, yet, but a couple of things have, er, fallen down, and I don't expect them to get back up.


Gravatarmy fingers have always mistyped words, despite impeccably clear instructions from my brain. there's an sf story based on that, in which the subject's body gradually starts taking on a mind of its own.


GravatarPreviously -- he's not using CSS.


Gravatarprogressively clear that the use of a circular contruct is used for farming fields?


Crop circles!


GravatarAnyone older here?

Ask me in another half-century or so.


GravatarAging, can't wait to see what comes next.

Hopefully, things don't start falling off.
Max Planck


If pain in the joints upon rising from slumber offers any indication, the future looks bleak.
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GravatarAnyone older here? If so, have you noticed that when typing the fingers don't type the right words like they used to?

It's called dystypesia. The digital version of lysdexia...


GravatarHere in southeastern Michigan, you can drive by a Mosque, a Jewish temple, a Catholic Church, various protestant churches on a ten mile trip to Home Depot. It is a beautiful thing. These people have and can live together, and will do so again one day.


GravatarPreviously -- he's not using CSS.
Virginia | 07.15.06 - 12:35 pm | #


Okay. CSS should work and it's preferred by lots of accessibility-oriented professionals, but otherwise use

[table bgcolor="#000000" blah="blah"]


GravatarAl -- I think it's because as we age we get smarter and our brains get ahead of our fingers. Of course, I think we forget things for a similar reason; we run out of storage because we know so much, so we have to forget where the hell the car keys might have got to.

I'm going to stick to this rationalization for as long as I can remember it.


GravatarIt's called dystypesia.

I thought it was called alcoholism.


Gravatar"I like my buddies from west Texas. I liked them when I was young, I liked them then I was middle-age, I liked them before I was president, and I like them during president, and I like them after president." —George W. Bush


Gravatar,i>[table bgcolor="#000000" blah="blah"]
previously pre, rank amateur

Yeah, we've been through various iterations of that; not happening. Thanks, though!


GravatarI have never been able to type, and if I don't edit and re-type, I could never post. Most of my left hand is numb, which doesn't help, and my right often renders double letters as triplets.


GravatarNothing's fallen off, yet, but a couple of things have, er, fallen down, and I don't expect them to get back up.

Old age, as they say, is not for sissies. But I keep reminding myself that it beats the alternative.


GravatarThanks NeoCons, Repugs, AIPAC, FOXNews et. al. you made the unbelievable happen.
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Agent Orange

Don't forget the Washington Post editorialists, who made all their drooling blithering nonsense respectable to all the other Beltway Gasbags.


GravatarRereading that press release...

It's hilarious how Bush talks to reporters, sitting right next to Putin, as if Putin wasn't actually there in the room. I wonder if Bush knows how rude that is.


GravatarPersonally, I never mispell anhtying, but Haloscan frequently messes things up.


GravatarYeah, we've been through various iterations of that; not happening. Thanks, though!
Virginia | 07.15.06 - 12:38 pm | #


Seriously, try the CSS styling.


Gravatarlack-a-proof reading (not to be confused with lack-a-nookie


GravatarBush doesn't know how rude anything is - ill raised, is all it can be.


Gravatar But I keep reminding myself that it beats the alternative.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 12:38 pm | #


I agree, *but* having just turned the corner on getting old, I'm still in shock!


GravatarOK, Bats, off to the grocery store - ugh.

Please don't build any electrical fences while I'm gone, OK.


GravatarI have never been able to type, and if I don't edit and re-type, I could never post. Most of my left hand is numb, which doesn't help, and my right often renders double letters as triplets.

I get this sometimes as well (carpal tunnel) 2-3 fingers of each hand goes numb at times and makes your whole arm ache..

"I'll be glad to talk about ranching, but I haven't seen the movie. I've heard about it. I hope you go — you know — I hope you go back to the ranch and the farm is what I'm about to say." —George W. Bush


GravatarPrePre -- problem solved. He used the style command in the cell. (It was only Safari that was being a bitch about it!)

Thx.


GravatarI and my guest, my friend, the President of the United States, George W. Bush, are often asked the question, does our present relationship help in progressing -- in addressing this question in resolving various international issues? I know that he believes so. -- Putin

Bushworld Versus The World.


Gravatartennis elbow is my downfall ...(been trying to correct it since age ten


GravatarI agree, *but* having just turned the corner on getting old, I'm still in shock!

In another Friedman or two you'll turn another corner and everything will be peachy, or so I am told.


GravatarI like Elmer's conclusion, so long as it doesn't progress to Spoonerism.

A phrase in which the initial (usually consonantal) sounds of two or more of the main words are accidentally transposed.

The spoonerism "The queer old dean" (instead of "the dear old Queen") is attributed to Rev. Spooner.

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GravatarOld age, as they say, is not for sissies. But I keep reminding myself that it beats the alternative.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed


We're not getting older. We're getting better.

[pretends to barf]


GravatarI get this sometimes as well (carpal tunnel) 2-3 fingers of each hand goes numb at times and makes your whole arm ache..

Go see a Chiropractor. It might not be the thing, but hey, it just might, and they're cheap. I once thought I'd ripped a tendon in my right wrist, had the arm in a sling for a week. Turned out to be a pinched nerve in my right elbow. Total medical expenses, $60 for two visits.


GravatarThe Spoonerism "butterfly" certainly stuck.


GravatarWhen the thought-type interface is invented, undoubtedly people will still make mistakes.


GravatarAging, can't wait to see what comes next.

Hopefully, things don't start falling off.
Max Planck


Yes, let's hope.


GravatarAging, can't wait to see what comes next.

Hopefully, things don't start falling off.
Max Planck

Yes, let's hope.
Marcia Brady?


Thus spake the spring chicken.

I should be your age again.

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Gravatar"We should just be accurate whenever we can"

That is the point!


GravatarGo see a Chiropractor. It might not be the thing, but hey, it just might, and they're cheap

might have to try that -thanks =0)


GravatarThus spake the spring chicken.

I should be your age again.

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Al Swearengen


Well, I kind of meant let's hope things don't start falling off of *you*...


GravatarAging, can't wait to see what comes next.

1x reading glasses and why the hell do they use such small fonts on all these damn labels!


GravatarThe raptor has landed, or whatever the current saying is for wandering upstairs.

I, however, must go to the grocery store, so have fun.


GravatarIt's called dystypesia.

I thought it was called alcoholism.
Moe Szyslak


Very similar. In fact, alcoholism can give rise tio dyspeaksia..


GravatarWell, I kind of meant let's hope things don't start falling off of *you*...
Marcia Brady?


At this point, the effect is limited to seemingly lifeless dangling.
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GravatarAt this point, the effect is limited to seemingly lifeless dangling.
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Al Swearengen


Oh, well, I guess the bloom is off the rose for good, then, huh?


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