I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Just wanted to be first.
Now I'll go read.
I know just how you feel, mer...
It's too long to read.
Why does ESPNews hate America? They've got the news about the Iraqi Olympic Committee being kidnapped in the news crawl.
When sex becomes politics, it's too much for me.
Two words:
Portnoy's Complaint.
Lanny Davis...? Again....?
At least Hiiary said she would support the winner of the CT primary.
I know past presidents don't say much about what is happening in present day American politics, but I think this is a different world. I think Bill Clinton should have come out swinging and punched Bush in the face.
mer, I agree.
Clinton has been too civil.
Evening, rational people.
Ah...1998, when "hummer" had a different meaning.
There was an article in my local newspaper (montréal) today about Lieberman. The title was: Le Baiser Fatal? (the fatal kiss?)
i worry for my niece what the world she will grow up to
Ah...1998, when "hummer" had a different meaning.
That was so funny!
And also, when I was making a lot more money, and my 401K was growing exponentially...
And I was getting laid. Good times, Good times.
Americans need to grow the fuck up about sex and they need to do it now.
Americans need to grow the fuck up about sex and they need to do it now.
Word. Word. Word.
Americans need to grow the fuck up about sex and they need to do it now.
Hecate
It always puzzled me that the so obviously peurile was labelled as "adult" entertainment.
Clinton has sucked around the Bush family *way* too much for my liking... he wants to be a 'statesman', fine, but there has got to be other ways of doing it.
Americans need to grow the fuck up about sex and they need to do it now.
Word. Word. Word.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Will never do that with the fundies around, sadly!
I think I'm going to take my antigue body to the antique living room and watch the Antique Roadshow.
I've been focusing too intensely on the wars in the Middle East today, coupled with the batshit crazy government we have today. I need to go think about old times.
Later. Unless I start drinking. Then much later.
HEY Hecate - that picture is not real. The story may have elements of truth, but it has no correlation to that picture. That picture is not real. I'll tell ya dims as easily go Newsmaxish as the right wing - it's all the same - just outrage for its own sake, to feed the addiction.
I'm quite pissed off at the moment
but that could be the booze
And also, when I was making a lot more money, and my 401K was growing exponentially...
And I was getting laid. Good times, Good times.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I miss the Clinton years.
I can't speak for everyone, but my loved ones and I were doing fine during that time.
It would be very entertaining to see Traitor Joe's response if someone asked him about his moral qualms about Clinton's infidelity vs. his don't give a shit attitude about torture.
But clenis did'nt get in trouble for the blow job. It was all about the lying!
dammit, if I wanted to read I would have stayed in school.
Hey dith, I'm sitting here, spread eagle with no underwear, in my tattered, green negligee.
Whatcha gonna do about that, you anti-dim?
HEY Hecate - that picture is not real.
dith
Fuck off, moron!
dith,
go fuck yourself with jack.
I'm quite pissed off at the moment
but that could be the booze
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek
You're up too late my dear. Get some juice and go to bed, tomorrow to fight again.
digby hammers it home on Lieberman:
On marital infidelity, Joe Lieberman, moral conscience of the Democratic party, is uncompromising. On torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners he sees shades of gray. From where I sit, Joe Lieberman's failure to publicly and resolutely condemn this torture regime, (much less vote to reward those who instigated it) puts the lie to his claim to moral superiority and personal integrity. A man who cannot see unequivocally that torture is wrong cannot be a moral leader. I resent the fact that he seems to believe that he's entitled to the benefits of that reputation when he has proven he is actually little more than a puritanical sexual scold --- on the big moral question of the day he has fallen very, very short.
That's exactly why I don't like Lieberman and don't think he represents the best interests of America or the Democratic Party...
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Clinton has sucked around the Bush family *way* too much for my liking... he wants to be a 'statesman', fine, but there has got to be other ways of doing it.
nick carraway
i agree. But it's not the first, or last, time we're dissapointed with Big Dog...you know, maybe it's time that democrats get over Clinton too (both Clintons) and give the mic to the Feingolds and Warner and Clark...
Im not in the room not in your city not even in your state or in that area of the country...so I 'spose it's a moot question.
"dims"?
What a dith ship.
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I can't speak for everyone, but my loved ones and I were doing fine during that time.
For two years, other than my house payment during that time, I was completely out of debt and making a decent wage. Since then, I've received no bonuses and a cut in my salary to stay employed.
And I was just talking to my millionaire sister, who told me it would be a mistake for me to quit my job, cash in on part of my 401K, and go back to college. "What are you going to retire on? You're a fool..."
Of course, she's the only sibling who supports Bush.
Fuck that...I'm so sick of rich people telling me how I should live.
Joe Lieberman represents the best interests of Joe Lieberman.
William Buckley hasn't got ten wood since 1956.
Im not in the room not in your city not even in your state or in that area of the country...so I 'spose it's a moot question.
dith | 07.15.06 - 8:43 pm | #
So then quit talking about fucking tattered negligees, m-kay?
Fuck that...I'm so sick of rich people telling me how I should live.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore
totally agree Vicki, i have those in my own family, looking down on me
So then quit talking about fucking tattered negligees, m-kay?
dith/jack/annieangel is saving up for that sex change operation.
I think what disturbs me the most is all the people who have left their government jobs because of Bush&co.
We haven't seen the mopet lately, have we?
And I was all ready to get some face time with "her".
I think Bill Clinton should have come out swinging and punched Bush in the face.
mer
I think Putin should have done the same today.
Plum P: yeah, I pretty much agree... Clinton, on the whole, was okay, but one of the reasons he looks good now is because of how lousy Bush has been.
Fuck that...I'm so sick of rich people telling me how I should live.
You've got to do what's best for you. If she's so worried, maybe she'd like to loan you the money for college.
Clinton, on the whole, was okay
Fifty years from now he'll be remembered almost as well as Coolidge.
It's funny how the term "morality" is generally used in the country to refer only to sexual behavior.
Well, maybe not funny. Perhaps stupid is a better word choice.
and speaking of moralists:
"The Sins of Ralph Reed": GQ Takes On The Former Golden Boy of the Christian Right, and Abramoff
In the upcoming GQ, Sean Flynn takes on — and takes down — Christian Coalition and Republican stalwart Ralph Reed, just days before the Georgia primary this Tuesday, July 18th in which Reed will seek the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor. Flynn pulls absolutely no punches here, charting Reed's rise through the Christian Coalition through his dubious dealings with Jack Abramoff , sketchy history as a campaign consultant and sketchier history touting moneymaking schemes pegged to life insurance payouts from elderly Indians and African-Americans ("mortgaging black people"). The article is long - almost 8,000 words - and packed chock-full of example after damning example of Reed's religious hypocrisy (gambling) and unsavory dealings (Abramoff said of him that he was "a bad version of us"; Reed called his frequent business partner "arguably the most influential and effective GOP lobbyist in [sic] congress." He is also the person credited - though everyone denies it - with delivering the South Carolina to George Bush in 2000 by fanning the suggestion that John McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter was his illegitimate black baby.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
ea...ed_e_24960.html
You've got to do what's best for you. If she's so worried, maybe she'd like to loan you the money for college.
Thanks. Coming from you, that means a lot to me.
She is very generous, but her values are on the wrong side of life these days.
dith/jack/annieangel is saving up for that sex change operation.
Richard
Why am I envisioning a tail in this construct?
Americans need to grow the fuck up about sex and they need to do it now.
If "growing up about sex" means "having it more often with me" then I'm on board with that.
Well, the cat wants his feed...
£473r, (h1r0p73r43
Coolidge? hm. More like Harding, really...
Fifty years from now he'll be remembered almost as well as Coolidge.
Really? I remember peace and prosperity.
I think Putin should have done the same today.
Buzz Bomb | 07.15.06 - 8:48 pm | #
No, I think proving that he is an infinitely superior statesman while making outright fun of Bush (forced to sit next to him and take it) was about as stellar as it's going to get.
Question for discussion. Has our reputation as a nation fallen to such a low level that it's essentially irreperable within our lifetimes?
If JP shows up here again, here's a map of wireless access in Nashville. If nothing else is going to work maybe we can hack up a cantenna and some HF coax cable for him to access these.
http://www.wigle.net/gps/gps/Map...&
s=Show+Address
Two words:
Portnoy's Complaint.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I read that right after it came out back in the early 1970s.
you know, maybe it's time that democrats get over Clinton too (both Clintons) and give the mic to the Feingolds and Warner and Clark...
Um, no thanks.
Why am I envisioning a tail in this construct?
Forked, along with its tongue.
£473r, (h1r0p73r43
JR
what? Is that a code? Are you from the NSA?
It's funny how the term "morality" is generally used in the country to refer only to sexual behavior.
Perhaps the most classic example of this is the way that a movie can get a G or PG rating even w/ lots of violence, but will get rated R if people are shown loving each other. It's completely weird. Sex and enjoying the body are taboo, but pain and killing the body are a-ok.
Forked, along with its tongue.
Richard
and maybe horns
Has our reputation as a nation fallen to such a low level that it's essentially irreperable within our lifetimes?
Well, do you want to blame all the Israeli people for the current actions of their government?
I remember peace and prosperity.
And to be honest, under Coolidge the country wasn't doing so bad.
I'm not sure I agree with the Harding comparison, but I'll go along with it. Harding is liable to be far more memorable than Clinton after the current period of history winds to a close. Especially because of contrasts with Wilson; it's circumstantial. As for Coolidge, most people forget he was in there somewhere...
everything is so uncertain
Fuck that...I'm so sick of rich people telling me how I should live.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore
Especially when their own lives (and kids) are pretty fucked up.
Harding is liable to be far more memorable than Clinton after the current period of history winds to a close.
Why is it that Harding isn't memorable today?
Doug: goodd idea, i saved the link. If i ever see Jeffraham here, i'll post itto him. We miss him and Curly, don't we
t's funny how the term "morality" is generally used in the country to refer only to sexual behavior.
Everyone else's sexual behavior, not the Repukes.
Fuck that...I'm so sick of rich people telling me how I should live.
Another example of the twisted Calvinism that seems to pervade this culture--somehow, the rich must know better, and be right, simply because they're rich.
Well, do you want to blame all the Israeli people for the current actions of their government?
pie | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 8:55 pm | #
I don't want to, but I'm not the world populace. I'm asking a practical question, really. Beyond getting this insane administration out of power, what could be done to restore our national image in the eyes of the world?
Sex and enjoying the body are taboo, but pain and killing the body are a-ok.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
I wonder how many killings (fictional) the average twelve year old has already witnessed.
I do remember a stat from the late 70's stating that the average 6 year old had already spent more time watching TV than they would talking to their Dad their whole life.
Perhaps the most classic example of this is the way that a movie can get a G or PG rating even w/ lots of violence, but will get rated R if people are shown loving each other. It's completely weird. Sex and enjoying the body are taboo, but pain and killing the body are a-ok.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
Nicely said.
Our culture really is skewed towards violence being seen as acceptable.
Americans need to grow the fuck up about sex and they need to do it now.
Quite a few other taboos as well, I am afraid.
Why is it that Harding isn't memorable today?
pie | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 8:56 pm | #
I never commented on today. I guess my point was that Harding will be memorable for longer than Clinton despite having been President about seventy years prior. Really, I just like my Coolidge comparison.
Moon,
The thing is, everything is always uncertain. I think part of the scariest part of getting older is realizing that no one really is in charge, no one really knows for sure that they're doing the right thing, everyone is kind of making it up as they go along. But eventually you realize that, although scary, it's better this way. Otherwise, there's be no chance for growth, for delightful surprises, for serendipity that saves us, or for fun.
My daughter has the WWE on. Why, I don't know....to see just HOW bad bad can get, I guess.
One of the announcers just said, sarcastically, about Bush:
"Now, there's a real man...the leader of the free world....a male cheerleader!"
ah, the Harding thing was a bit of a joke... it was a memorable eight years.
Beyond getting this insane administration out of power, what could be done to restore our national image in the eyes of the world?
I'll remind you, darling, that it's only taken about five short years to get us where we are now.
So do I think we can pull out of this, WITH THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP?
You betcha.
Hecate yeah 
Sex and enjoying the body are taboo, but pain and killing the body are a-ok.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
Bush's Murka:
Sex bad, violence good.
Peace bad, war good.
Smart bad, stupid good.
Gay marriage bad, serial divorces (by straight Repukes) good.
Bizarro World.
Clinton's an accommodater, not a leader: great snippet of Roth ranting, though.
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I don't want to, but I'm not the world populace. I'm asking a practical question, really. Beyond getting this insane administration out of power, what could be done to restore our national image in the eyes of the world?
previously pre, rank amateur
I honestly think that electing a Democratic president would go a long way toward restoring our image. It would take more, of course, but a dramatic change would be noticed.
"Now, there's a real man...the leader of the free world....a male cheerleader!"
Terry C
If Bush is losing the whole whitetrash crowd, maybe there's hope for november
"Now, there's a real man...the leader of the free world....a male cheerleader!"
Terry C
If Bush is losing the whole whitetrash crowd, maybe there's hope for november
Sex and enjoying the body are taboo, but pain and killing the body are a-ok.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
One is intimate, the other (when a-ok) is generally not. Americans have a problem with intimacy. This might also be observable in the way many Americans tend to talk about friendship and love between friends; I suspect so but I have no supporting research or anything.
A commercial for "Snakes on the Plane"
Mother fucking snakes on the mother fucking plane.
I guess Fiengold is all about killing Arabs too.
http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?w...15/2006&
id=8593
Clinton's an accommodater, not a leader
Bullshit.
I like Clinton way more than some of you do.
And I'd take him back in a New York minute.
He could have accomplished much more if given a chance.
It was the summer when a president's penis was on everyone's mind, and life, in all its shameless impurity, once again confounded America.
Speak for yourself!
I despised Clinton back then.
My thoughts were if that's all you got, after 40 million $, give it up.
I like him more now, but not alot more.
.
"Now, there's a real man...the leader of the free world....a male cheerleader!"
Terry C
If Bush is losing the whole whitetrash crowd, maybe there's hope for november
If they no longer support GWB, I'd not lump them with white trash any longer.
I might note, the brightly-coiffed one is on a roll today.
I guess Fiengold is all about killing Arabs too.
http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?w...15/2006&
id=8593
Zoiks
I don't know how FIENGOLD is.
One of the announcers just said, sarcastically, about Bush:
"Now, there's a real man...the leader of the free world....a male cheerleader!"
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Wow! If Chimpleton has lost the WWE crowd, he just may be fucked.
I despised Clinton back then.
WHY????????????????????????
I despised Clinton back then.
My thoughts were if that's all you got, after 40 million $, give it up.
After forty million? What are you talking about?
What is this sex thing you speak of?
.
Now, there's a real man...the leader of the free world....a male cheerleader!"
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Wow! If Chimpleton has lost the WWE crowd, he just may be fucked.
Buzz Bomb
The show is taking place in DALLAS, TEXAS.
I honestly think that electing a Democratic president would go a long way toward restoring our image. It would take more, of course, but a dramatic change would be noticed.
I remember back before the 2004 election, Jon Stewart had Bishop Tutu on his show and Bishop Tutu said that the rest of the world still loved Americans, but hated Bush. He said that this could change if Bush were re-elected. My not-at-all-scientific experience has been that people from Europe, at least, are still willing to give individual Americans a pass once they know that you didn't vote for Bush. I think the next Democratic president will have a lot of fence-mending to do, but I do agree/hope that it can be done.
Sex and enjoying the body are taboo, but pain and killing the body are a-ok.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
This truth is evident in the exhauting overuse of the war metaphor.
War on ________________?
Competitions between children are often described this way by coaches and parents. It really is disgusting.
That's a disappointment coming from Feingold. You'd think he would stay out of it and not comment.
What is this sex thing you speak of?
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agave
Vicki --
Your millionaire sister ought to GIVE you the money for college
Actually, in civilized countries like Ireland & Egypt & India, the government pays the tuition of anyone who can do college level work (why should K-12 be covered & not the rest?) -- this is why Ireland & India are kicking US butt in the dotcom world (Egypt has its own issues...)
After forty million? What are you talking about?
pie
The legal cost of going after him.
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IIRC, my children were born completely naked, not with weapons in their hands...
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Another example of the twisted Calvinism that seems to pervade this culture--somehow, the rich must know better, and be right, simply because they're rich.
I think it's even worse than that. There is a large segment of the population who equate wealth with godliness, and who think that the poor are poor because they are immoral and thus deserve their fate.
After forty million? What are you talking about?
pie
The legal cost of going after him.
.
agave
What a waste of money.
And I'd take him back in a New York minute.
I believe that I'd blow him myself it we could have him back instead of Bush. I actually planned to retire someday when Clinton was in office.
I believe that I'd blow him myself it we could have him back instead of Bush.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
Me, too!
The legal cost of going after him.
And this is whose fault?!!!
You see what Bush/Cheney are getting away with.
It would be cheap to prosecute them, if the evidence could be obtained.
Think about it.
But in countries like Germany, the educational paths permitted are harshly proscribed early on.
Kids who aren't rated as college material have their options closed early on.
Damn, I hate dragging myself into these Clinton debates, no one to blame but me... yeah. He had a boatload of potential, I really felt he wanted to be President of the whole country, not just the top tax brackets.
And I guess it worked out that way, it's just that at the time it seemed he ended up working more for the business end... and while he got a raw deal, he also screwed himself up when he should have known better.
I believe that I'd blow him myself it we could have him back instead of Bush.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
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Can't somebody just pay Hillary to do it?
There is a large segment of the population who equate wealth with godliness, and who think that the poor are poor because they are immoral and thus deserve their fate.
Richard
A Mormon sect believes that.
The same sect that believes in polygamy and whose families are too glad to live off the government teat.
If she's so worried, maybe she'd like to loan you the money for college.
I've found that people who are better off are perfectly to share - advice. Their material goods, not so much.
I was out of work for a year under Bush I and spent the Clinton years getting myself back on my feet. My family was full of contempt for how I'd "screwed up my life," and was big on lectures and short on actual help.
Since Bush took office, 5 out of my 6 brothers has spent significant time out of work. (The 6th, alas, died in 2000, but probably would've been okay.) It almost makes me wish they were still speaking to me, so I could snark to their faces.
Clinton would have a line around the White House and down Pennsylvania Ave. of people waiting to blow him if he were back as president today. Imagine all the work Ken Starr would have to do then!
Can't somebody just pay Hillary to do it?
Zoiks
What would YOU know about blow jobs?
I believe that I'd blow him myself it we could have him back instead of Bush.
There would be women (and men, too!) lined up for miles around the White House.... me, too, and I was not an especially avid Clinton fan, back in the day. Didn't despise him, voted for him twice, thought for sure he was competent and very, very bright. Just disagreed with him on some policy issues.
and while he got a raw deal, he also screwed himself up when he should have known better.
Compare him to Bush, Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I.
You have no argument.
Imagine all the work Ken Starr would have to do then!
Buzz Bomb
Here's hoping Ken Starr winds up like Lee Atwater.
Bill Clinton's nice and all, but I don't wanna blow him. The past is gone, the present is fucked. I'm
no spring chicken, but the future's all I got. We have to make it better.
Can't somebody just pay Hillary to do it?
Zoiks
What would YOU know about blow jobs?
Anonymousse
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So she can't be persuaded to do it?
Hecate or Terry C --
The question is would you blow Bush if that would get him impeached?
BTW -- one of the advantages of being a celibate is that you don't have to worry about how good you are at sex (how pathetic is that?)
, he also screwed himself up when he should have known better.
nick carraway
Compare him to Bush, Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I.
You have no argument.
pie
Amen!
Another example of the twisted Calvinism that seems to pervade this culture--somehow, the rich must know better, and be right, simply because they're rich.
I think it's even worse than that. There is a large segment of the population who equate wealth with godliness, and who think that the poor are poor because they are immoral and thus deserve their fate.
There are others here who could explain this better, but according to my understanding of Calvinism, the above is not Calvinism, but something that is a twisted interpretation of it.
What happens when divinity schools are ran by the stupid and evil.
I wonder if the Clenis ever lurks here? He'd be having fun tonight.
Hecate or Terry C --
The question is would you blow Bush if that would get him impeached?
BTW -- one of the advantages of being a celibate is that you don't have to worry about how good you are at sex (how pathetic is that?)
Prior Aelred
I'd probably need an electron microscope to find it.
I have a feeling Chimpy's schlong is as small as his brain.
It would be cheap to prosecute them, if the evidence could be obtained.
Think about it.
pie
The evidence is already there; it's just being ignored by the traditional media.
Clinton lost me within months of election with the cave on gays in the military and it was pretty downhill for me from then on . . . With the White House fellatio it became clear that he wasn't even all that smart.
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I wonder if the Clenis ever lurks here? He'd be having fun tonight.
bill
doubtful. extremely doubtful - kinda like that myth about Al Gore posting here.
What happens when divinity schools are ran by the stupid and evil.
Doug,
http://www.patrobertson.com/Biog...raphy/
index.asp
Clinton lost me within months of election with the cave on gays in the military
So you're a one-issue voter.
Okay.
Clinton lost me within months of election with the cave on gays in the military and it was pretty downhill for me from then on . . . With the White House fellatio it became clear that he wasn't even all that smart.
.
cs, art is bread
And what we have now is so much better!
one of the advantages of being a celibate is that you don't have to worry about how good you are at sex (how pathetic is that?)
I would assume that the rewards of your current life are worth to you, what you've given up to live it.
In sex, you are as good as you want to be. Your genetic inheritance can't be changed, but you don't have to be a hottie to be able to pleasure another
person. Prior A, I respect and admire you; but there's something nice to be said for the congress of the flesh.
i hated clinton, a triangulating jackass.
having said that, i'd blow him too if we could replace bush.
and i'm not gay, and i'm not joking.
WHY????????????????????????
Anonymousse
He is my age. Out with the old farts, I thought, finally! The good shit will happen. Did not.
He turned out to be a great politian. But, so?
What did he really do for progessive causes? Name one thing. It's all about Bill.
.
Clinton lost me within months of election with the cave on gays in the military
So you're a one-issue voter.
Okay.
pie
Thanks for saying what I was thinking.
My family was full of contempt for how I'd "screwed up my life," and was big on lectures and short on actual help.
Oh, I went through a long, long time when my family got to sneer at me for having "screwed up" my life -- by having a baby at 17 and being divorced by 19, by getting a low-paying job as a public school teacher, etc., etc.
But I wouldn't give up any of those years or experiences for anything. Life has to have some twists and turns or it's too boring to imagine.
Strangely, once Son graduated from Princeton and law school and I graduated from law school, all the discussion of how my "life" was "going" came to a screeching halt.
You just can't let other people establish your value in your own eyes nor get to decide whether you are a success or a failure.
Best post you've ever done.
A Mormon sect believes that.
So does Pat Robertson...
http://www.msmagazine.com/sept03...03/
sizemore.asp
Playing down his aristocratic pedigree-- he's the son of a U.S. senator, is related to two U.S. presidents and has a law degree from Yale-- Robertson says his success is all the Lord's work. He calls it "God's law of reciprocity: God is the source of wealth. You give and God gives back. You give more and God gives back more."
That formula figures prominently in his TV fundraising appeals. If it worked for him, he implies, it can work for anyone. Pledge drives on The 700 Club feature frequent testimonials from viewers who say their financial circumstances improved dramatically once they became regular CBN donors. And the cash continues to roll in. CBN and Operation Blessing together reported nearly $150 million in contributions last year.
Even so, Robertson isn't above taking a little government largesse. Last fall, just a few months after he criticized President Bush's "faith-based initiative" as a "narcotic" that would make religious charities too dependent on the government, Operation Blessing was awarded a $500,000 grant under the program. Apparently, Robertson is now a convert. On the May 8 700 Club, he argued that charities like Operation Blessing should be allowed to participate in the program even if they practice religious discrimination in hiring. Such discrimination, he said, amounts to "nothing more than choosing steak over apple pie in a restaurant."
There is probably something wrong with me but I thought that the presidential BJ was kind of healthy for the US.
Certainly I think it is healthier than Leiberman's reaction to it and Clinton's sucking up to him now, whatever the reason, which I can't imagine.
In any case, I am now really disillusioned about Big Dog and will "never be the same" as the song goes, about him.
agave, I trust you've been paying attention the last six years.
You're blaming Clinton for things that were beyond his control.
You can't snap your fingers and have the world to your liking.
What did he really do for progessive causes? Name one thing. It's all about Bill.
.
agave |
Wiped out all the anti-woman laws that Bush I and Reagan put on the books.
And this fucking psychopath put right back on!
Hecate or Terry C --
The question is would you blow Bush if that would get him impeached?
Yes, but the rest of you would owe me, big time. A blow job is short; the next two years are long.
You just can't let other people establish your value in your own eyes nor get to decide whether you are a success or a failure.
You're a goddess.
And what we have now is so much better!
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
I'm not comparing Clinton to anything, just expressing the way I viewed him and his presidency.
.
...as Abelard said to Heloise
"Don't forget to drop a line to me please"...
What did he really do for progessive causes? Name one thing. It's all about Bill.
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agave
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Thank you!! Bill Clinton was the worst thing that ever happened to the Democratic Party. The only victories he ever had were for himself...at the expense of welfare, a Democratic Congress, gays in the military, Al Gore, and the list goes on. I can't believe the people still hooked on his Kool Aid. They are like mindless zombies who don't remember what he actually DID.
You know, I'd be okay with Clinton coming out for Lieberman, as long as he was to insist that Lieberman abide by the decision of the CT primary voters.
Why does Malkin hate our troops?
Btw, I learned something interesting today. Impeachment doesn't have to be introduced by a House member.
Hecate --
I think you done good
plantsman --
I am not opposed to sex -- but monastic life just would not work without celibacy -- it is a matter of integrity
Doug --
I have spent most of my life in the monastery -- I honestly can't imagine living any other way -- not really
No, I'm not a one-issue voter.
They are like mindless zombies who don't remember what he actually DID.
Peace and prosperity.
Terrible.
goodnight moonbats
You can't snap your fingers and have the world to your liking.
pie
That Sucks!
Sorry, I'm just not a Clinton fan.
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No, I'm not a one-issue voter.
Really. Then you get too bent out of shape about that issue.
You think gays are faring better now?
He could have accomplished much more if given a chance.
I don't give a damn who Clinton diddled with; it irks me when liberals begin with the obligatory: "Of course I disapprove of his Lewinsky affair, but..." Screw that; it's between him, his lover and his wife.
The problem I have with Clinton is how he backed down from the opposition with his stupid triangulation. Instead of throwing in the towel, they should have redrawn the health care bill and pushed it again and again.
The criticism goes for the other Dems who couldn't back their party's president and policies, but hemmed and hawed and backed down. Especially that puritannical grandstander Lieberman.
Whaddaya mean combover.........fuck off!
Sorry, I'm just not a Clinton fan.
Well, I am.
Can we still be friends?
Peace and prosperity.
Terrible.
pie
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More thanks to Bill Gates and Bill Clinton. He didn't have a thing to do with the tech bubble.....and the Peace went right out the window when it was convienent for him. He bombed other countries just to have headlines compete with his impeachment.
The Democratic Party is still trying to overcome all the damage he did to them.
Strangely, once Son graduated from Princeton and law school and I graduated from law school, all the discussion of how my "life" was "going" came to a screeching halt.
You just can't let other people establish your value in your own eyes nor get to decide whether you are a success or a failure.
That is so very true. If I had listened to my family, I'd still be an accountant.
You can't let other people tell you what choices you make with your life are right either.
"We hadn't had a season like it since somebody stumbled upon the new Miss America nude in an old issue of Penthouse, pictures of her elegantly posed on her knees and on her back that forced the shamed young woman to relinquish her crown and go on to become a huge pop star."
The first black Miss America.
There were two months left in Vanessa Williams' reign when they made her surrender her title.
The following year, a Miss Ohio had been caught shoplifting. Not only was she NOT made to surrender her title, but she was first runner-up....to Miss Utah.
Of course, Miss Ohio and Miss Utah were lily white.
Vanessa has been asked so many times to come back to be a judge or perform at that cattle show....she refused to save their plummeting ratings.
Living well IS the best revenge.
He bombed other countries just to have headlines compete with his impeachment.
The Democratic Party is still trying to overcome all the damage he did to them.
Ummm, no.
Thanks for playing though.
He bombed other countries just to have headlines compete with his impeachment.
You're a fucking idiot.
monastic life just would not work without celibacy -- it is a matter of integrity
That's a fascinating topic. I've recently been having some discussions w. some Pagans who want to set up Pagan "monastaries" and who, obviously, wouldn't give up sex.
Do you think it's the sex or the relationship that would make monastic life difficult?
He bombed other countries just to have headlines compete with his impeachment.
The Democratic Party is still trying to overcome all the damage he did to them.
Oh, please!
Hezbollah or Hizbullah[1] (Arabic حزب الله, meaning Party of God) is a militant Lebanese Islamist group, with a military arm and a civilian arm, founded in 1982 to fight the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon.
Along with the Amal movement, Hezbollah is the main militant organization representing the Shia community, Lebanon's largest religious bloc. Founded with the aid of Iran and funded by it, it follows the distinctly Shiite Islamist ideology developed by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, leader of the Islamic Revolution in Iran. It calls for the establishment of an Islamic state in Lebanon, on the principle of sovereignty of the jurisconsult, although recognizing that this could only come about with the consensus of the Lebanese people.
The civilian wing of Hezbollah runs hospitals, news services, and educational facilities and participates in the Lebanese Parliament. Its Reconstruction Campaign (Jihad al-Bina) is responsible for numerous economic and infrastructural development projects in Shia-populated areas of Lebanon.
Hezbollah is regarded by some in the Arab and Muslim worlds, such as the Iranian and Syrian governments, as a legitimate resistance movement and is a recognized political party in Lebanon, where it has participated in government. Around the world, however, Hezbollah is widely viewed as a terrorist organization bent on the destruction of Israel.
However, as it initiates attacks against civilians in Israel and ideologically supports such attacks by other organizations, such as Islamic Jihad and Hamas, several international organizations, including the EU, and many governments, including the United States, have designated it a terrorist organization(*).
On March 10, 2005, the European Parliament voted overwhelmingly to adopt a resolution that stated `Parliament considers that clear evidence exists of terrorist activities on the part of Hezbollah and that the EU Council should take all necessary steps to curtail them.'
This organization is headed by Hassan Nasrallah.
Yeah, I hope these guys teach those damned Israelis....................
Clinton certainly wasn't the be all, end all. But considering what we've got today, I'd take him back in a nanosecond.
So where are Sally and Eli?
We finally have eatage, and I'm the only one here to appreciate it.
Can we still be friends?
pie
You fuking Idjut!
(OK)
Whaddaya mean combover.........fuck off!
That's bullshit and I hate that!!
Why does Malkin hate our troops?
Buckley Roberts
Because she's a self-hating wall eyed Rabid Pekingese.
And she's a miserable bitch.
pie -- who are you to tell me or anyone what's "too bent out of shape" about anything or to decide just how bent we are? Really, just silly. If you like Clinton, fine.
No one wags the dog better than Chimpy. 
I've recently been having some discussions w. some Pagans who want to set up Pagan "monastaries" and who, obviously, wouldn't give up sex.
Hmmmm.
Why? Do they just wnat to retreat from the world? (not judging, just curious)
Prior,
thanks. I'm no Don Juan or Casanova, and I've been surprised by the joy I've had in life. I can imagine monastic life and celibacy rather well. For many recent years, it is what I experienced and I had assumed that was the totality
of my future. Blessedly, unexpectedly, I was wrong. I greatly missed human touch those many years. While it is within my reach, I shall partake.
Adig104
With all due respect:
Blow it out your ass!
is the whole book like that? sheesh, like treading through a swamp.
It's kind of awkward when the ~10 year old niece and nephew visit for a week and my wife lays down the law that potty mouth language is unacceptable. And that Uncle Max is the worst offender.
n69n saw the write up at that Broadway website.
Good job!
Do they just want to retreat from the world? (not judging, just curious)
fourlegsgood
The way the world is lately, I'm not so sure they don't have the right idea.
Why? Do they just wnat to retreat from the world? (not judging, just curious)
They think that living in a community of like-minded people would help them to grow spiritually, I think is the main thing. I'm too much of an introvert for it to ever work for me, but I think it will be interesting to see if they can pull it off.
"The Sins of Ralph Reed": GQ Takes On The Former Golden Boy of the Christian Right, and Abramoff
I don't have that much time.
I liked Clinton.
Americorp
Tax advantages for students
Humor...etc...
When you consider the opposition he faced, and the fact that they had no qualms about sinking the ship to spite the Captain, I believe he did a pretty good job. That isn't to say he had the potential to do a great deal more.
Philadelphia Story is on PBS outlet here in my area.
Hecate --
The relationship -- but for many people separating the two is something that they could not or would not want to do -- think of the jealousy issues in (fundie) Mormon polygamous marriages & spread it through an entire community. When this sort of thing has been tried (I think of some interesting "heretical" groups in Czarist Russia) there has usually been a dominant male who called the shots.
Then there is the issue of raising children in a community setting -- this has been a deal breaker in experimental "household comunities" in charismatic parishes.
Really, just silly.
So gays are faring better now, I take it.
You know what? I think they are. But that's despite Bush and maybe because the climate got better when Clinton was president. Think about the emphasis on and funding for Aids research, for example.
Compare it to what's happening now.
I liked Clinton.
Americorp
Tax advantages for students
Humor...etc...
Intelligence.
No one wags the dog better than Chimpy.
It's his whole presidency. Absolutely everything is done purely for political reasons.
No one fares well under Chimpy but the rich.
And that Uncle Max is the worst offender.
Max Planck
What the fuck is wrong wid you?
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And Hecate, at least your Aunties are willing to come in and polish your silverware. That's a big deal. There's not a soul in my life who'd do the same.
Inherit it? Oh sure, that'd work out well....
I see the Clinton Kool Aid is still strong with this crew. Pity.
No one fares well under Chimpy but the rich.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Not only is it true, it's been fucking chest pounding blatant the past half decade.
Some decorum, please! gentlemen.
Whadder you lookin at......................
get off my lawn!
assholes
They think that living in a community of like-minded people would help them to grow spiritually, I think is the main thing. I'm too much of an introvert for it to ever work for me, but I think it will be interesting to see if they can pull it off.
Okay.
That's gotta be the worst looking werewolf I've ever seen.
But hey, eatage is eatage.
What the fuck is wrong wid you?
I've been really trying to put a lid on it the past few days, believe me.
And, of course, the castration that Buckley wanted and, to some degree, got was of Clinton's political potency.
I see the Clinton Kool Aid is still strong with this crew. Pity.
Oh, fuck off.
Campaigning for Lieberman?
Ugh, why do I even bother to pay attention?
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
I love your anger!
Are you ever calm and happy?
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I see the Clinton Kool Aid is still strong with this crew.
How jack of you to say that.
Hopefully at the very least in 2008 we will get a president who can at least watch television and eat pretzels at the same time.
Prior,
Thanks, that's interesting.
Chastity seems to be the model in, for example, Buddhist monastaries, as well, I believe.
I think Bill Clinton should have come out swinging and punched Bush in the face.
mer
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Mer, you have such great expectations of the former right wing president, Bill Clinton.
I've been really trying to put a lid on it the past few days, believe me.
Max Planck
Fuckin A!
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thanks HoneyBear!!!
plantsman --
I think it is a trait I was born with -- I do not like to be touched (I do not tell my friends that -- they might misunderstand) -- this is actually not unusual in monks, I think
Hecate --
Curiously, all monastics I know are introverts -- the opportunities for solitude & silence are wasted on extroverts -- but we are introverts in community (for our own good -- it stretches us)
fourlegsgood --
It is not a matter of wanting to retreat from the world -- it is a matter of what to not get tangled up in the things that get in the way of reality.
Most people today take a dim view of the monk’s desire for seclusion. They see it as flight and do not appreciate the monk for fleeing. Perhaps “flight” is not the right word; certainly the monk does not escape anything, nor does he desire to.
Pressed to explain, the monk might turn the thing around and say that it was precisely because he was tired of running that he became a monk. Taken from one point of view, who is more “in flight” than the “man of the world”? When one talks of escape, one might more likely look elsewhere than a monastery if he wants to see it in action.
People in flight had best not come to monasteries and those who desire to escape had best look down another road. This is no place for the timid and the skittish. Those who fear their own depths and the deep of night had better find something to occupy them or divert them.
There is nothing wrong with this. God has not called everyone to the inner experience. Not all are equal to it. Some shy away from their own depths with very good reason. Solitude is not everyone’s dish, nor the lonely life.
But it is a bit unfair to call those who embark upon it men in flight. The monk is a man of his time and when he goes into the desert he takes his world with him. Every man’s heart is a little universe and to understand one’s time one need only read one’s own heart, honestly and truly.
The monk seeks quiet and peace and seclusion not to get away from “the world,” but to get closer to it; not to flee the times’ ills, but to heal them.
This is the center of the monk’s whole life. The purpose of the monastery is to provide a setting in which this inner business can go on. The monastic community can be a lot of things and is many things to many people, but it is this inner activity that is the very heart. Without this it simply is not a monastery, and with it, the place is justified.
Mer, you have such great expectations of the former right wing president, Bill Clinton.
Bobby St. Chomsky
Fuck....you!
Adig 104
What won't work here is the BUSH Kool-aid.
Are you ever calm and happy?
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agave
Always!
Except when it comes to Bush.
Adig 104
What won't work here is the BUSH Kool-aid.
It's a killer.
Not that this should surprise anyone, but Bill Clinton is now on board with the Lieberman campaign.
hafuckingha!
i said the other day bill clinton's rhetoric is just like chait and liarman's. somebody wanted a cite proving so.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
I love your anger!
Are you ever calm and happy?
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agave
Gee, didn't TED ask Terry that a couple of days ago?
Why do people think everyone has to be calm and happy all the time?
And what we have now is so much better!
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Well, what you literally mean is that all was so much better under Clinton, which is true of course.
But then, Lieberman would probably make a better President than Bush.
I respect people for whom "better than Bush" isn't a good enough standard. Especially when they say "I'd still blow Clinton to get 'im back in the WH, if the opportunity arose."
The cryptozoologist just said news of the monster in Wisconsin was all over the Drudge Report.
Hecate --
Buddhism is really monasticism (& a metaphysic) with a religion added on -- chastity is certainly an essential part -- I woudl say that in this case it stems from a rather negative take on things (avoiding attachment to avoid disappointment) but I don't want to sound triumphalistic (besides which, from a practical point it is true -- one way of avoiding disappointment is to lower your expectations!)
There isn't a god.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter | 07.15.06 - 9:43 pm
Not mine, folks.
Looks like the namestealers are out.
and yes, it's big freakin' double standard that clinton get's a pass for the shit he says, but we jump all over it when flimflam-man says the same thing.
when he was prez, i thought clinton was an opportunistic weasel.
now he looks like pericles.
Fuck....you!
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter | 07.15.06 - 9:43 pm | #
Well, meh. I'd rather say that Clinton should represent the right wing in a properly centered and balanced universe.
and yes, it's big freakin' double standard that clinton get's
Whoops.
Your ignorance is showing.
I respect people for whom "better than Bush" isn't a good enough standard.
The lump of dog poo I passed by on my way home tonight could do a better job than him. It's no standard at all, really.
Ken Lay: Really dead.
http://www.comcast.net/news/
tech...qh=itn_layblogs
Prior,
I do not experience what you do-- but oddly, I tried to convince myself I did. I have such difficulty
relaxing into a massage, I've got to book 2 sessions to permit it to work its magic. And yet, at my core, human touch inspires and ignites me like nothing else in life. Peace find you, and help you rest. God bless.
Speaking of "better than Bush", did anyone catch the USNews&WorldReport publisher telling Colbert he'd known Kerry for 30 years and thought he'd make a worse pres than Bush? I was really dismayed that Colbert let his interview segment be used to spew a bald smear like that. He should have called the guy on it . . .
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The thing about democracy is that we get the government we deserve.
When less than half of all eligible voters show up at the polls, strange results happen.
And then, when most Americans retire to their couches/computers and stop paying attention, tragic results happen.
Until Americans start taking responsibility for their government, we're going to have folks like George Bush and his minions running things.
Why do people think everyone has to be calm and happy all the time?
Anonymousse
Don't worry...be happy!
Pressed to explain, the monk might turn the thing around and say that it was precisely because he was tired of running that he became a monk.
My personal take-away line from the explanation. It's always a pleasure to read your posts.
did anyone catch the USNews&WorldReport publisher telling Colbert he'd known Kerry for 30 years and thought he'd make a worse pres than Bush
Boy, there's a real right wing rag!
HaloScan keeps erasing my information -- must be time to retire.
The cryptozoologist just said news of the monster in Wisconsin was all over the Drudge Report.
Larry W
I don't know if this is what you're refering to but it will be discussed on Coast tonight:
Sat 07.15 >>
Cyber tech expert Charles R. Smith will discuss current military operations worldwide and how new weaponry will change the nature of conflict. In the 1st hour, Dr. Marc Siegel will provide a bird flu update. Guest Host: Ross Mitchell (email)
6-10pm PT Show: Ian Punnett welcomes cryptozoologist John Rhodes, who'll talk about UFOs, reptoids, and mysteries of the underworld. In the 1st hour, Linda Godfrey will provide an update on the Michigan Dog-Man.
And then, when most Americans retire to their couches/computers and stop paying attention, tragic results happen.
Computers?
The lump of dog poo I passed by on my way home tonight could do a better job than him. It's no standard at all, really.
BlakNo1
How low can you go?
And everytime I ask that, Bush just goes lower.
we couldn't get 1 mile of improved gas mileage for cars under clinton. one stinkin' mile.
Except when it comes to Bush.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
I hate the fuck.
But, really, this kinna thing has been going forever. It is not new, not worth getting all worked up about.
Enjoy your life.
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Don't worry...be happy!
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
The guy who wrote and sang that committed suicide.
Clinton was a non-starter in an era of history in which everyone other President through the car in reverse and slammed on the gas.
oops
Clinton was a non-starter in an era of history in which every other President through the car in reverse and slammed on the gas.
Reading Philip Roth "like treading through a swamp"?! Um, maybe you wanna pick up a book a little more often...
when he was prez, i thought clinton was an opportunistic weasel.
Yeah, he had a four year hands off honeymoon just like W as I recall. No wait, Bob Dole jumped his ass the *first* day of his administration on gays in the military. Then there was the traditional time allotted new Presidents to get settled. No wait, the fucked up Mogadishu military commitment that GHW Bush committed at the last possible second of his failed admin went hot. Then things calmed down. No wait, the World Trade Center's basement blew up from terrorists planning the strike throughout Poppy's watch.
Yeah, he had all kinds of media and opposition party afforded time to plan his opportunism.
(quiet mumbling of inappropriate word)
Clinton was a non-starter in an era of history in which every other President threw the car in reverse and slammed on the gas.
Sheesh, that statement wasn't really even worth the edits. Sorry, everybody.
You just can't let other people establish your value in your own eyes nor get to decide whether you are a success or a failure.
That's the conclusion I came to, which is why the final break, when it came, was as much of a relief as anything else.
Clinton invaded Bosnia and Kosovo, and not one American Combat death resulted. But the military objectives were achieved, because the D of D didn't trust him.
Clinton was a non-starter in an era of history in which everyone other President through the car in reverse and slammed on the gas.
Oil was 24 dollars a barrel when?
Beyond getting this insane administration out of power, what could be done to restore our national image in the eyes of the world?
previously pre, rank amateur
I think if we got someone sane in charge the world would be so relieved they might foregive us.
If we recall correctly the Human Stain was also an excellent and necessary reminder of the falsehood of that favorite homophobic slogan, that there were no former black people. In fact there were entire industries devoted to tricks and cosmetics and speech patterns that could help one pass.
When I was a student at Brooklyn College in the early '60's I was fortunate to witness Malcolm X totally demolishing William F. Buckley in a much publicized debate in one of the college halls.
Peace,
Well, it's been fun, kinda.
Have a good one.
Reading Philip Roth "like treading through a swamp"?! Um, maybe you wanna pick up a book a little more often...
It's A Wonderful Lie
that's right, i'm illiterate. how else to explain my disagreeing with your taste?
Oil was 24 dollars a barrel when?
pie | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 9:56 pm | #
Well, it's because the President wasn't using up all that gas driving full speed backward to the Stone Age, of course.
Computers?
pie |
Yeh,pie.
I suspect it's my guilt talking, but this internets stuff is easy. Actually taking action, like calling congress critters, working to get decent voting machines with verifiable results, writing letters to the editors pointing out their malfeasance is harder, but might have more of an effect on the government.
Oil was $24/bbl in early 2001, at the start of the 2nd Bush presidency.
Roth's American Pastoral was so devastating I couldn't read fiction for over a year . . .
Oh man, my dick is harder than Chinese arithmetic after reading that. My future political career is going to be super-sweet.
Roth's American Pastoral was so devastating I couldn't read fiction for over a year . . .
cs, art is bread | 07.15.06 - 10:01 pm |
Which way do you mean that? We wouldn't touch it or Everyman because we we put off by the pretentiousness of the title.
When I was a student at Brooklyn College in the early '60's I was fortunate to witness Malcolm X totally demolishing William F. Buckley in a much publicized debate in one of the college halls.
Peace,
Bobby St. Chomsky
Buckley, to me, always sounded like Bugs Bunny on acid.
He's proof that someone can use big words and still say nothing worth listening to.
Ugh, perhaps if I'm lucky, Armageddon will occur by next week so I don't have to view the smug smile on Lieberman's face when he wins this thing.
I suspect it's my guilt talking, but this internets stuff is easy.
Shit, Diane. Most of us wouldn't know what was going on if not for the internet.
And we'd be crazy.
Au revoir.
now he looks like pericles.
gary in fl
Yeppers.
Why do people think everyone has to be calm and happy all the time?
Anonymousse
Eat shit and die ass hole!
I feel so much better.
(like that?)
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Clinton was a non-starter in an era of history in which everyone other President through the car in reverse and slammed on the gas.
EVERYONE other president?????
The cryptozoologist just said news of the monster in Wisconsin was all over the Drudge Report.
What the hell is Bill Bennett doing in Wisconsin?
Buckley, to me, always sounded like Bugs Bunny on acid.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Approximately speaking, Roth is to fiction narratives what Eggers is to nonfiction narratives.
I dislike both of 'em.
Eat shit and die ass hole!
I feel so much better.
(like that?)
.
agave |
If that's what makes you happy.......
"Everyone other president" sopunds like Buckley's idea of hyperconjugated overconstructed English.
EVERYONE other president?????
And "through" instead of "threw" -- if you're going to correct it, that's fine by me, but at least be thorough.
he cryptozoologist just said news of the monster in Wisconsin was all over the Drudge Report.
What the hell is Bill Bennett doing in Wisconsin?
spinoza
Sure it wasn't Karen Hughes?
Approximately speaking, Roth is to fiction narratives what Eggers is to nonfiction narratives.
Hmm. I just picked up The Plot Against America to be my new commute-read. Whatever beats the free newspaper....
is the siren call of centrism so alluring that clinton will rise to the defense of one of his chief detractors and call him friend? must be. (in other words, we must scare the hell out of these people.)
prior - i don't know if you're still here - two years ago i had the privelege of seeing an initiate take buddhist monastic vows. (i'm not a buddhist; just happened to be there.) the abbot said something i found amusing: 'monastic vows are not a resume-builder. this is a lifelong commitment. there is no honor in being a failed monk and this isn't something you do so you can pick up girls when you go back to grad school!'
in the documentary the take, which followed the aftermath of argentina's crisis, the "progressive" candidate won the election over the old establishment president trying to win his old office back. but the "reformer" ended up following the same economic policies as the former regime.
"Everyone other president" sopunds like Buckley's idea of hyperconjugated overconstructed English.
I do believe I immediately corrected the error. Of course, it took me two tries because I didn't see the second error.
Bill Clinton defends Lieberman's Iraq stance
there is also no honor is failing to close tags. apologies, all.
Shit, Diane. Most of us wouldn't know what was going on if not for the internet.
And we'd be crazy.
pie
I get news here three days before I see it in the MSM.....and it doesn' t have the pro-GOP slant that the so-called librul media puts on it.
He's proof that someone can use big words and still say nothing worth listening to.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
His choice of words does fascinate me, though he invariably would conclude with a monobrow "oh fuck it, kill 'em all" kicker at the end. I caught a recent Charlie Rose interview, and I was struck, as was Rose, with the palpable regret and despair in his word. Rose even called him on it and Buckley essentially said "It doesn't matter anymore, I'm ready to die." Wondrous stuff.
Moving on to Bill Safire, I recall a nice one-off Onion paragraph:
"Safire goes to Burger King, smugly orders 'two Whoppers Junior' for lunch."
AMY GOODMAN: How do you justify imposing the embargo against Cuba and lifting it against China, normalizing relations with China?
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Well, first of all, China hasn't killed any of our pilots lately. They haven't murdered any Americans .
sound familiar?
Maybe I missed something, but I have a hard time understanding why on a liberal blog a Monastic has to mount a defense of his lifestyle.
Hopefully soon "Into Great Silence" will get an Amerikan distributor. Amerikans need to watch it.
We are a nation of people with hammers and everything looks like a nail. A sick way to live.
Terry C, possibly nepurbtive, has evidently not yalematriculated mushmooshmushmoosh ginghimmel ousafruit patter pit pit Godbeside sings the moocow.
n the documentary the take, which followed the aftermath of argentina's crisis, the "progressive" candidate won the election over the old establishment president trying to win his old office back. but the "reformer" ended up following the same economic policies as the former regime.
jello
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
Terry C, possibly nepurbtive, has evidently not yalematriculated mushmooshmushmoosh ginghimmel ousafruit patter pit pit Godbeside sings the moocow.
kei & yuri |
That's Buckley alright!
Maybe I missed something, but I have a hard time understanding why on a liberal blog a Monastic has to mount a defense of his lifestyle.
I might have missed something too, but I'm not sure it was "has to mount a defense" so much as "is willing to provide interesting insight into the lifestyle"...
sound familiar?
gary in fl |
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Rose even called him on it and Buckley essentially said "It doesn't matter anymore, I'm ready to die." Wondrous stuff.
I will mail him a bullet. He has been wrong on every issue since he discovered clipboards his freshman year at Yale. I hope Gore Vidal goes to his funeral and vomits into the casket.
pie
I get news here three days before I see it in the MSM.....and it doesn' t have the pro-GOP slant that the so-called librul media puts on it.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Oh, I'm not dissing the internets by any means!
What I'm saying is that until we start translating the info we get here into some kind of action in the 'meat' world, this really does turn into nothing more than an echo chamber.
I might have missed something too, but I'm not sure it was "has to mount a defense" so much as "is willing to provide interesting insight into the lifestyle"...
previously pre, rank amateur
That's the impression I got.
No one was attacking the Prior.
Good, I'm glad I'm wrong.
hope Gore Vidal goes to his funeral and vomits into the casket.
spinoza
He wouldn't even be worth Gore's time then.
I hope Gore Vidal goes to his funeral and vomits into the casket.
spinoza | 07.15.06 - 10:11 pm |
Vomiting is rough. Hope for what Debbie Harry called a slippery coat of admiration.
I would pay ticket scalper money to see Amy Goodman and Bill Clinton have another go-round.
No one was attacking the Prior.
Heh. Wait until you read the right wing blogs tomorrow. Malkin will accuse Atriods of persecuting Christians.
Al Co'burn in Italy
An American woman showed me a postcard of the Rialto, stabbing it with her finger, and said slowly, in a loud voice, "How get there?"
I embarassed to admit it. But last Saturday night Pere Rimbaud profusely vomited up cabernet sauvignon and hot dogs. That is why I'm here tonight, as every opportunity to reprise the event has been offered me this afternoon.
No one was attacking the Prior.
Heh. Wait until you read the right wing blogs tomorrow. Malkin will accuse Atriods of persecuting Christians.
spinoza
Oh, to hell with that bitch.
The General visits the Freepi for their take on Lebanese children being burned alive.
Not surprising in light of the track record that crazy people on the internet have compiled, but bracing on a Saturday evening.
Oh, we were going to explain but we forgot. We crucified the prior as part of an experiment. Wait three days, and ... profit!
wow, it's really Putin's day, maybe The Daily Show should give him a job!
Putin takes swipe at Blair's fundraiser
Saturday July 15, 10:37 PM
ST PETERSBURG, Russia (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin took a deliberate swipe at Prime Minister Tony Blair on Saturday, turning a question about democracy into a jab at Blair's embattled fundraiser Lord Michael Levy.Levy was arrested on Wednesday and questioned in a "loans-for-Lordships" scandal, a probe into allegations that state awards had been given in return for cash.
Putin was fielding reporters' questions at the end of the first day of a G8 summit in St Petersburg when a journalist from a British newspaper asked him how he would deal with Blair's inevitable grilling on the state of Russian democracy.
"We regularly talk about these kind of questions with all our colleagues, including the prime minister of Britain," Putin said. "We discuss this openly and willingly, and it's almost always on the agenda for our bilateral meetings."
He said he always listened to criticism and was glad to take into account the views of fellow leaders at the summit, but Russia would always make its own decisions."There are also other questions," he said after a long pause. "Questions, let's say, about the fight against corruption. We'd be interested in hearing your experience, including how it applies to Lord Levy."Blair was not available to respond, having just finished dinner with Putin and the other G8 leaders and their spouses.Putin, a former KGB spy, often produces unexpected quips in an attempt to expose the weakness of his critics.
U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have both criticised Russia this year. But President George W. Bush backed away from confrontation on Saturday, saying Russia had its own style of democracy.
But when Bush urged Russia "to promote institutional change in parts of the world like Iraq where there's a free press and free religion", Putin replied: "We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, I will tell you quite honestly."
And the General is someone who understands real Jew hatred first hand, too.
The General visits the Freepi for their take on Lebanese children being burned alive.
Not surprising in light of the track record that crazy people on the internet have compiled, but bracing on a Saturday evening.
Jay C.
Maybe the freepi should spend more time learning to write and spell and less time a-hatin'.
Oil was $24/bbl in early 2001, at the start of the 2nd Bush presidency.
plantsman, lowercase
So the price of gasoline in real dollars falls steadily (see chart) since the Reagan presidency. (So much for 'peak oil'). Two 'Texas oilman' occupy the White House in 2001 and now at $3.00+/gallon they've achieved what even Jimmy Carter couldn't. Dick Cheney and George Bush, even worse than Jimmy Carter.
http://inflationdata.com/
Inflati...ation_chart.htm
.
Oh, we were going to explain but we forgot. We crucified the prior as part of an experiment. Wait three days, and ... profit!
kei & yuri
does anyone know big dog's position on the iraq invasion? why not?
Levy was the MacAuliffe of the Labour party, leading its "reconstruction" from a truly liberalish entity into brazen neoliberal climbers chasing after money and screwing their former constituents.
For the want of Scotch Gard the kingdom was lost.
Hey Plum. What's cracking?
Tom Waits sold out the Detroit Opera House (3500 seats at 72 bucks a pop) in 20 minutes yesterday. I had two tickets in my cart with 1:45 to go and ticketmaster kept demanding my cc number, which I'd already put in the system. When I'd type it in it said it already had my number. And so on in a vicious circle. I fairly cried like a baby when I timed out.
Maybe I should get plastered again tonight.
There's a "Retro" channel on my cable system.
Shows a lot of film noir,
Right now, it's showing "Psycho."
Janet Leigh was SO beautiful; and Tony Perkins was SO creepy!
does anyone know big dog's position on the iraq invasion? why not?
gary in fl
bloody good point!
Gary, what position do you take with your cur?
Jomentum is blackmailing the Big Dog.
He has pictures of Clinton sleeping with Hillary.
I liked Clinton.
Americorp
Tax advantages for students
Humor...etc...
Intelligence.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter |
All traits he shares with Liberclown.(/snark)
Bill Clinton is pimping Lieberclown, the biggest ho of them all. Chelsea must have a juicy deal in this. Is he trying to sauce Hillary with repubs or just trying let Ned Lamont aim higher than the Senate race? Ned would make a nice VP on the ticket. Business smart, an education advocate, and a fundraiser. His commercials had a wider appeal than simple CT demographics. I think people are selling Ned short if they only see him as a local race, he's got much more broad appeal, though not a natural speaker he can speak to a topic clear enough and would be a change of pace pick.
Clark/LaMont '08
Jomentum is blackmailing the Big Dog.
He has pictures of Clinton sleeping with Hillary.
T.H. Stain
Charming!
Right now, it's showing "Psycho."
Janet Leigh was SO beautiful; and Tony Perkins was SO creepy!
Right at the beginning? That's Phoenix in 1960... No a/c.
Gah, Waits isn't coming here(Metro Boston)!!!
To be fair, China and India have change the oil patch equation and things will only get worse.
Hey Plum. What's cracking?
Jay C.
not much, it so hot and humid here i'm completly comatose. I started watching "The Island" with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett and...boring like shit. So i'm back here
Psycho was written by Robert Bloch, who as a young man was a friend of Howard Phillips Lovecraft, who was famously raised by an insane, abusive, controlling mother who played with his gender identity.
Right at the beginning? That's Phoenix in 1960... No a/c.
GWPDA, Yclept y Yrate |
My daughter just brought that up.
Notice the boss' office had a/c, though.
"A boy's best friend is his mother"
Norman Bates and Jonah Goldberg
Psycho was written by Robert Bloch, who as a young man was a friend of Howard Phillips Lovecraft, who was famously raised by an insane, abusive, controlling mother who played with his gender identity.
kei & yuri |
I always thought Tony Perkins' character was based on Ed Gein.
"A boy's best friend is his mother"
Norman Bates and Jonah Goldberg
T.H. Stain
And George W. Bush
I had a college professor who took us to Lovecraft's old house as part of a skip-class "field trip." iirc, I quoted Robert Bloch's Foreword to one of the Lovecraft anthologies to snag some brownie points.
I thought Patrick Bateman was based on Ed Gein.
Gein was the model for the character in Bloch's book.
Jomentum is blackmailing the Big Dog.
He has pictures of Clinton sleeping with Hillary.
T.H. Stain
-----------------
Damn, that would be humiliating!
LOL!
i hate it when i agree with trolls, but it's true that i'm not sure about Clinton's position on Irak. But more importantly, we should care that much anyway. Cause after all, HE wont be elected in 08, she...well that's another story (sorry...rambling... bit stone)
Damn, that would be humiliating!
LOL!
Avestus
Speaking of Psycho.
Two days ago the NYT ran an article about how Hillary was one of the biggest recipients of money from BigPhrama.
Lieberman's wife was recently hired on at a six figure salary by BigPharma. Loserman, himself is a big money recipitient of BigPharma money - and he often spearheads favorable bills for them through the senate.
Put all those facts together and you have one good reason why Bill supports LIEberman.
We concluded nothing, though it ios interesting that everyone had the same thought.
i hate it when i agree with trolls, but it's true that i'm not sure about Clinton's position on Irak.
Unfortunately, we know what Prince Fuckwit's position is.
Janet Leigh was SO beautiful; and Tony Perkins was SO creepy!
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Ms. Leigh was of that wondrously striking cohort of Hollywood women born within 2 or 3 years of each other. Including Brigit Bardot, Barbara Eden, Elizabeth Montgomery, Sophia Loren, Lee Remick, Lee Grant, Joanna Moore, just absolutely stunning women.
Here's an unusual title for a movie...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product...TF8&n=130&
s=dvd
I really wish I were at the NAC just now.... Or the HBC. The NAC for choice tho, the archive that never closes. 2am, you can stroll down to the NAC, go in the back door, mosey up to the secret scholars' reading room, pull out your documents and start working..... Stagger back out at 7am, find a Tim Horton's, replinish your body's requirements of jammy doughnuts and coffee (and maybe find a little bacon) and go back again.... When you only have five or six or seven days all told, the 'we never close' archive is a great thing.
Besides, Ottawa is a strange and wonderful town. I can walk from the Algonquin Hotel to the NAC at 2am without a care in the world. Not many places where that's possible. And pick a flower from the city flower beds along the way.....
They are slaves to the same master: greed.
LOL!
Avestus
The only one who laughs at Assfestus attempts at humour is himself.
Ms. Leigh was of that wondrously striking cohort of Hollywood women born within 2 or 3 years of each other. Including Brigit Bardot, Barbara Eden, Elizabeth Montgomery, Sophia Loren, Lee Remick, Lee Grant, Joanna Moore, just absolutely stunning women.
Max Planck
Absolutely.
Clinton's position on Iraq was/is flat out wrong. He had the decency, at least, to keep it in the closet under his smelly tennis shoes. For the most part.
I love the Big Dog and Hillary, but there is symmetry in my poke at them.
Hey Avestus
:::smooch:::
Okay question for Plum-
I'm going on my monthly used-CD rummage tommorow, but what's new that is worth picking up?
Hey Avestus, when a girl throws up on you, that's when you know, man. Go with it stud.
GWPDA:you're the only person i know who dreams of Ottawa (apart from wannabes politicians of course)
James Jesus Rimbaud: Are you a Detroiter? We'll have to make sure to include you the next time we have a Michigan meet-up. Good times.
Notice the boss' office had a/c, though.
Terry C, Patriotic Dissenter
Private houses were just starting to have it after having evap coolers, movie houses of course, some offices had window setups - but even now, schools don't, lots of places don't. I remember. I was here. It was thrilling when the first enclosed mall was opened, complete with a/c - even if it's chief store was Montgomery Ward's. Government buildings? Even now, State buildings downtown have windows that open instead. A/C is rationed.
big dog could have snarled at the chimp, but no.
I watched a DVD of a real good old Cagney movie today, "The Mayor of Hell."
They had great cars back then!
What the fuck is wrong with MSNBC?
The Middle East is blowing up and they show effing reruns. CNN is no better.
I have to go to you know where to find out anything.
Private houses were just starting to have it after having evap coolers, movie houses of course, some offices had window setups - but even now, schools don't, lots of places don't. I remember. I was here. It was thrilling when the first enclosed mall was opened, complete with a/c - even if it's chief store was Montgomery Ward's. Government buildings? Even now, State buildings downtown have windows that open instead. A/C is rationed.
GWPDA, Yclept y Yrate |
I don't have it downstairs in my house, but all three bedrooms have it.
Can't sleep when the room temperature is 85-90 degrees.
GWPDA:you're the only person i know who dreams of Ottawa (apart from wannabes politicians of course)
Plum P
If, my dear, you'd been forced to knock off work at 3pm at Friday and not resume it til 9am on Monday, when you only have ten days altogether to explore an entire archive, then you too would appreciate the Archive that Never Closes. It's a bit of courtesy and kindness that every scholar treasures. It's something that makes Canada a prize research location..... The flowers and fetchingly wrought-up English millieu is just cute.
What the fuck is wrong with MSNBC?
The Middle East is blowing up and they show effing reruns. CNN is no better.
You got a problem with at-risk-teen-prison-bootcamp specials and fluff promos for related summer movie openings?
What the fuck is wrong with MSNBC?
The Middle East is blowing up and they show effing reruns. CNN is no better.
I have to go to you know where to find out anything.
T.H. Stain |
No missing pretty blonde white women.
What the fuck is wrong with MSNBC?
The Middle East is blowing up and they show effing reruns. CNN is no better.
It's Saturday Night.
Real Americans don't want news on Saturday night, they want entertainment.
I think people were thinner back then too.
A/C wasn't needed as much.
No one was attacking the Prior.
No kidding. All the questions to the prior were honest curiosity, not attacks.
On September 24th, Cormac McCarthy's new novel, The Road, will be released. It is about the post-apocalyptic road trip a father and son take to escape a nuclear winter in the Amerikan southeast. I've seen an advanced reader's copy and I think it will be a sleeper hit this fall. It oddly resonates with the current malaise of the Republic and the world at large.
Later they'll have a piece on Israelis suffering.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft, who was famously raised by an insane, abusive, controlling mother who played with his gender identity.
kei & yuri
Yeah, she suffered from depression, but abusive and controlling... you got anything to back that up, or are we just blaming Mom again.
BTW, I had a conversation with Robert Bloch... nothing in "Psycho" had anything to do with Lovecraft. He had read a couple of newspaper articles about Ed Gein, and took it from there.
Robert "Six Gun" Howard was the one that killed him self when his mother died, and we all know that Heinlein had mother issues...
Yes sister. I live near Ann Arbor but am a native Detroiter.
I'm sorry about the Prior comments. Obviously I was wrong. I get real pissed when Monks get attacked.
Real Americans don't want news on Saturday night, they want entertainment.
Diane
Years ago, it would always surpise me to watch a European (including Russian) or Asian being interviewed and mention Iowa or Florida. It finally dawned on me, the rest of the world takes a much closer interest in the United States than do many (I'm hoping not most) Americans.
This is just a manufactured escalation prior to Israel's attack on Iran. The US can't do it so Israel will.
Christian Bale played both Batman and Bateman (American Psycho) exactly the same way.
Yes, here it is now. Apparently Blue Sqaure Israel is running low on Yoplait custard style yogurt. There is much grief in Tel Aviv.
Christian Bale played both Batman and Bateman (American Psycho) exactly the same way.
T.H. Stain | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 10:41 pm |
Yeah, we never got him. Cute but who thinks he can act?
As far as Israel attacking Iran, it can't. But as we argue still, Syria is right there...
Yes, here it is now. Apparently Blue Sqaure Israel is running low on Yoplait custard style yogurt. There is much grief in Tel Aviv.
Wait till their cell phones don't work.
I'm going on my monthly used-CD rummage tommorow, but what's new that is worth picking up?
Jay C.
Primal Scream has a new record out "riot city blues". It's back to their 60's Rolling Stone type of sound. Quite rétro. I prefer their "evil heat" sound myself.
Thom Yorke's solo cd "the eraser" is a chilly record. Electronics and fantastic depressing lyrics. More suited for a cold february sunday, but practical in the summer when you don't have air conditionning
My fave of the summer is still the King Biscuit Time "black gold" cd. But i think it's only on imports for now. Super cool folktronika from Steve Mason, ex-Beta Band
If you need a fix for early XTC, then The Futureheads cd is for you. News and Tributes its called
and if you don't own "the piper at the gates of dawn", the 1st Pink Floyd album, then you need to buy it. With Syd passing, i've been listening to it all week.
Atlas Juggs is going to Isreal.
Via Tbogg.. "If Hezbollah nabs Pamela we might be witness to the first dinner theater production of 'The Ransom of Red Chief' in the history of Jerusalem"
*chortle*
Wait till their cell phones don't work.
The key is to yell loudly into them. That makes them work on the subway, apparently.
Hummer
It was so pleasant, really. No one died. No one cut off anyone's head or crashed a plane into a building or sewed a dog's head onto a young girl's decapitated body.
oh these days of these horror of horrors. I long for the good old days of hummers given and received in wild, willful abandonment of joy, when no one died..
We need to rise up and proclaim bah, humbug, the hummer of today has not thejoy to shield it like the hummers of yore, nothing to keep it protected from the ripping flesh brought up sharp by an IED.
May I just say that I have finally
and irrevocably had it with Bill
Clinton?
Support Lieberman?
Fuck you, asshole.
Hell, I voted for him in 92 because
I thought I was getting a liberal.
Imagine my disappointment.
On September 24th, Cormac McCarthy's new novel, The Road, will be released.
blood meridian is so deeply disturbing. i haven't fully shaken it, two years after reading it.
what's new that is worth picking up?
Tool - 10,000 Days
If you watch Fox News for news, you have to wait till you can get a regular channel to translate it into non-conservative.
Actually, I think Israel is being baited by the Syrians and Iranians into attacking Syria. A pretext is needed to shut down oil production which is the only weappn Iran ever really needed against the USA.
Forget high school seniors, if you were to conduct a poll simply asking the name of the respondent's current state governor, I have no confidence that the correct percentage would eclipse 50%.
Thanks, Plum.
I was going to pick up Thom Yorke's latest just because (I'm a Radiohead authoritarian cultist), but I've been seeing lots of XTC-related stuff around recently. It will go on the Big List.
It finally dawned on me, the rest of the world takes a much closer interest in the United States than do many (I'm hoping not most) Americans.
Max Planck
well of course we do (i'm a member of ROW - rest of the world), we can be invaded by americans at any minute!
I think people were thinner back then too.
A/C wasn't needed as much.
T.H. Stain
Global warming wasn't as bad.
Israel is home to this lovely lady:
www.gardenof-e-d-e-n.com
PLEASE GOD LET HER SURVIVE.
Yes, Blood Meridian is the great Amerikan novel. I've read it 6-7 times...always astounded by the language.
Tool is also on the Big List.
Dammit, why did I buy that iced coffee today. They have coffee at the office, dumbass.
If you watch Fox News for news, you have to wait till you can get a regular channel to translate it into non-conservative.
T.H. Stain
Can't be bothered with FUX News.
May I just say that I have finally
and irrevocably had it with Bill
Clinton?
i remember seeing his speech at the '04 convention and thinking, my god, if only we could graft his skills on to someone with a soul!
Imagine my disappointment.
steve simels
i feel your pain steve
It finally dawned on me, the rest of the world takes a much closer interest in the United States than do many (I'm hoping not most) Americans.
And if it has not be recently covered by FOX or CNN, most US people couldn't tell your where any country is in the world, and what's significant about it.
Can't be bothered with FUX News.
All other outlets are dark.
israel will never exist, except at the point of a gun.
Porch time!
Nite all.
best too you.
,
OK. WHO WANTS A WENDY'S CHOCOLATE FROSTY?
Yes, Blood Meridian is the great Amerikan novel. I've read it 6-7 times...always
astounded by the language.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 07.15.06 - 10:48 pm | #
Don't be silly.
The great American novel is that
roman a clef about Tom Jones (the
singer) by Jackie Collins.
Even if Jackie Collins is a Brit.
Bill Clinton is a very forgiving man, considering that Lieberman built a good part of his infamy on bashing Clinton. As the post says, he's part of the past.
The Democratic Party won't win until it pays attention to the People and this isn't an example of that.
Jay C: i played "News of the World" by The Jam this week on my radio show (i do "themes" group of songs, and the theme of that one was the big bad media). Freaked me out cause that album (this is the modern world) will be 30 years old in 18 months. Fuck i'm old!
I always wondered what happened to Gary Collins.
Well, it has finally dropped below 100F. I think I shall retire to the bedroom and do some reading.
Oh, and I have posted Bonus Critter Blogging for your Saturday night edification.
Night, all.
israel will never exist, except at the point of a gun.
gary in fl | 07.15.06 - 10:49 pm | #
Yeah!!!
Let's cheer dead jews!!!!!!!
I think the next Democratic president will have a lot of fence-mending to do, but I do agree/hope that it can be done.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
The next Dem Prez'll have to order up Air Force Three, and keep Bill and Jimmy hopping from country to country, doing just that. Hell, if Jimmy can build houses, he oughtta be able to mend a fence or two. Bill, too, once the politicking is over with...
bonne nuit Agave
I've got a pocket full of pretty green.
I'm gonna put it in the fruit machine.
In light of all the depressing news, I feel a cat posting is in order.
Cece the wonder feline, post snackies:
http://i1.tinypic.com/2058hli.jpg
The only good thing about Wendy's is the baked potato. If you must do fast food, supermarkets are better, but chicken joints are alright, especially if like KC you can get several "real" side dishes instead of just approximations of french fries. But then if you like fries the best are at National Coney Island.
http://i1.tinypic.com/2058hli.jpg
Snugglebunny
i love cat tongues!
My concern is that a significant block of lost Bush supporters are pissed that he's not killing enough to suit them.
I always wondered what happened to Gary Collins.
James Jesus Rimbaud
The one who looks like Michale Rennie and Robert Redford's love child? I think he stood against an off white sheet and disappeared.
Plum P --
I knew you would be unable to resist!
"Eden Mor (born June 28, 1984 in Israel) is a model best known for her extremely large breasts, which began to grow around the age of 13-14, She has inherited the large-breast gene from her grandmother"
-from Wikipedia
Let us all pray for her safety
Jay C: i played "News of the World" by The Jam this week on my radio show (i
do "themes" group of songs, and the theme of that one was the big bad
media). Freaked me out cause that album (this is the modern world) will be 30
years old in 18 months. Fuck i'm old!
Plum P | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 10:52 pm | #
One of my favorite rock n roll quotes
of all time was from Jam bassist
Bruce Foxton: "There were three guys
in the Jam, and two of them weren't
Paul Weller."
this kitten seems scared of the world too!
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogg...ling-
kitten.jpg
Time was when you could walk into a Woolworth's or S.S. Kresge lunchcounter and get better French Fries than the shit that is getting slopped today.
i remember seeing his speech at the '04 convention and thinking, my god, if only we could graft his skills on to someone with a soul!
Soul, shmole. I'd welcome any shred of competence back to the white house. Yeah, I'm setting the bar low, but so is this whole fucking zoo that used to be a country.
The New York Times hits BushCo with a chair - in tomorrow's editorial:
Editorial
The Real Agenda
It is only now, nearly five years after Sept. 11, that the full picture of the Bush administration’s response to the terror attacks is becoming clear. Much of it, we can see now, had far less to do with fighting Osama bin Laden than with expanding presidential power.
Over and over again, the same pattern emerges: Given a choice between following the rules or carving out some unprecedented executive power, the White House always shrugged off the legal constraints. Even when the only challenge was to get required approval from an ever-cooperative Congress, the president and his staff preferred to go it alone. While no one questions the determination of the White House to fight terrorism, the methods this administration has used to do it have been shaped by another, perverse determination: never to consult, never to ask and always to fight against any constraint on the executive branch.
One result has been a frayed democratic fabric in a country founded on a constitutional system of checks and balances. Another has been a less effective war on terror.
.
"...this kitten seems scared of the world too!"
Overwhelming kitten cuteness!
"Eden Mor (born June 28, 1984 in Israel) is a model best known for her extremely large breasts, which began to grow around the age of 13-14, She has inherited the large-breast gene from her grandmother"
-from Wikipedia
Good Lord! The Wiki pic looked like she was smuggling two midgets out of country!
The New York Times hits BushCo with a chair - in tomorrow's editorial:
Guilty conscience, well deserved.
Hello.
Why does no one question the terrorfighting determination of an administration that has never successfully fought terrorism?
"There were three guys
in the Jam, and two of them weren't
Paul Weller."
steve simels
well Paul did write the songs...except "news of the world", one of the rare songs from Bruce. I haven't cared much for Weller since The Jam (still have Style Counsil nightmares)
Mr. T. H. Stain, damn your eyes to hell. Ye have corrupted me.
Good Lord! The Wiki pic looked like she was smuggling two midgets out of country!
The only good thing about Wendy's is the baked potato. If you must do fast
food, supermarkets are better, but chicken joints are alright, especially if like KC
you can get several "real" side dishes instead of just approximations of french
fries. But then if you like fries the best are at National Coney Island.
kei & yuri | 07.15.06 - 10:53 pm | #
Jesus, guys, -- is there any subject
you don't have an opinion on?
How about parthogenisis?
Yes or no?
Oh please. What the hell would anyone do with those things?
The New York Times hits BushCo with a chair - in tomorrow's editorial:
it took the NYT 5 years to understand???
Oh please. What the hell would anyone do with those things?
They have 1001 uses.
What does anybody do with Van Gogh? Look a them of course. St. Augustine preserve me.
The US continues to block calls for a cease fire in Lebanon.
This is just horrible.
Interestingly, parthenogenesis happens to be our favorite exasperated anti-male rant. "Kill all the males, and the emergency atmosphere will force some women to mutate ...replacement. IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED IN RABBITS!!" It was the premise of the Victorian-era "Amazon Planet" novel Herland.
Up since 7AM, done for the day. Peace!
The US continues to block calls for a cease fire in Lebanon.
This is just horrible.
Well what did you expect?
Anybody want to buy my current convertible? Reasonable....
They have 1001 uses.
Nurturing the next generation. Okay, what else?
At Woolworth's we used to get the grilled cheese sandwiches and french fries for 79 cents...something ridiculous like that. They key was to eat the pickle slices before the juice leached out into the crispy fries or the sandwich bread.
How about parthogenisis?
Yes or no?
steve simels
I'm more of an abiogenesis guy...
-
Despite the fact that Israel has not attacked Hizbullah, Israel's attacks on Lebanese infrastructure are always being introduced on local news as "Israeli attacks on Hizbullah."
Nurturing the next generation. Okay, what else?
Knocking over lamps
Causing car accidents
Causing fights
Staring at
Did I mention staring at?
Chirac should send in air batteries to Beirut and should be lamenting the day he supported the US in forcing Syria out of Lebanon.
Anybody want to buy my current convertible? Reasonable....
Maybe;
What is it, and what year?
How many miles?
Condition?
Pictures?
Air conditioning?
The new Isreali prime minister needs to upgrade his bona fides to include terrorism and ethnic cleansing...just like his predecessors.
"...A local journalist told me bitterly this week that Iraqis find it ironic that Saddam Hussein is on trial for killing 148 people 24 years ago, while militias loyal to political parties now in government kill that many people every few days. But it is not an irony that anyone here has time to laugh about. They are too busy packing their bags and wondering how they can get out alive..."
That's Liberation, baby!
Holy Joe heart Thers.
Sorry.
Also, it's fun trying to prep for a bar exam, when a whole mess of practice questions ARE NO LONGER CORRECT thanks to the SCOTUS rewriting the books every week.
Lebanon: U.S. blocking call for cease-fire
http://www.yahoo.com/s/135782/
*h..._lebanon_israel
After I mentioned that well-endowed lady, there was a lull of five minutes before another post.
What were you all doing?
Nûr al-Cubicle | Homepage | 07.15.06 - 11:09 pm |
We're sure he'll get right on that.
It seems like this might be it; the patience of the Europeans is out. Between actively if covertly supporting American torture chambers, some insultingly located in the same dungeons used in the past by the Soviets, and tolerating a newly rabid and bloodthirsty Israel, Europe seems to be perfectly asleep.
Ziothugs blew up a bus evacuation children. Damn terrorists, they can go to hell and all their fortified setttlements and kibbutzes too. Who are they to call anyone terrorist?
The new Isreali prime minister needs to upgrade his bona fides to include terrorism and ethnic cleansing...just like his predecessors.
James Jesus Rimbaud
Do they have Sharon's brain in a jar? Or did they go Ted Williams with him?
Bill Clinton is a very forgiving man, considering that Lieberman built a good part of his infamy on bashing Clinton. As the post says, he's part of the past.
Well, remember Bill's a consummate politician, and when there's politics to do, everything else takes a back seat. Right now Hillary and Joe are both trying to get reelected, and they both "voted for the war". If it's an issue for Joe, it's an issue for Hillary, and Bill's having none of that shit. He's loyal to the party, and that's fine. He's loyal to Hillary, and that's also fine. Unfortunately, the latter is going to affect the former in this case, and cause Bill to support someone he doesn't need to, to provide cover for his wife. If Joe loses, Lamont most likely wins, and that's not splitting the party. But if Bill supports Lamont, he has to mention the war, and he's not about to do that. Politics sucks, ya know? I just noticed that this afternoon. No, honestly...
Interestingly, parthenogenesis happens to be our favorite exasperated anti-male rant. "Kill all the males, and the emergency atmosphere will force some women to mutate ...replacement. IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED IN RABBITS!!" It was the premise of the Victorian-era "Amazon Planet" novel Herland.
kei & yuri
Also, IIRC, "The Female Man" and "Houston, Houston, Do You Read?", both of which are excellent. Although it was technology, not mutation.
There are entire species of parthenogenic lizards, BTW.
Interestingly, parthenogenesis happens to be our favorite exasperated anti-male rant. "Kill all the males, and the emergency atmosphere will force some women to mutate ...replacement. IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED IN RABBITS!!" It was the premise of the Victorian-era "Amazon Planet" novel Herland.
kei & yuri
Also, IIRC, "The Female Man" and "Houston, Houston, Do You Read?", both of which are excellent. Although it was technology, not mutation.
There are entire species of parthenogenic lizards, BTW.
" Saddam Hussein is on trial for killing 148 people 24 years ago, while militias loyal to political parties now in government kill that many people every few days. But it is not an irony that anyone here has time to laugh about. They are too busy packing their bags and wondering how they can get out alive..."
Putin is some sort of islamofascist, or, even worse, a Democrat, for not wanting this wonderful freeance.
We hear Olmert is actually a pussy compared to his recent predecessors, and he's thought to be in over his head.
“Irish-Americans have been great supporters of mine,” Mr. Lieberman said in remarks to the small crowd, between prelunch sips of Guinness. He seemed, at the moment, every bit in his ethnic political element — a backslapping, blog-free retail setting characteristic of the Democratic Party he grew up in.
Ah, the ethnic political element. I work with some old-time Democratic party guys from South Boston; it seems less of an "ethnic" thing than a reality of the old machine.
it took the NYT 5 years to understand???
Plum P
Yes, these past 5 years have not been journalism's finest hour. The NYT have covered up so many crimes - DSM, Valerie Plame, the FISA story - delayed for a year - when it could have made a difference in the outcome of an election. They're guilty of the conspiracy of silence.
I hope this editorial means that they'll stop pretending that there was EVER a reason to go to war Iraq, too. And their reporters need to focus like a laser beam on this fascist regime. They need to start speaking truth to power on a daily basis - and stop covering up for this maladministration!!
If ever there was a time when we needed real investigative journalists - it's now!!
"Lebanon: U.S. blocking call for cease-fire"
like it or not, we all support israel.
Interestingly, parthenogenesis happens to be our favorite exasperated
anti-male rant. "Kill all the males, and the emergency atmosphere will force
some women to mutate ...replacement. IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED IN RABBITS!!"
It was the premise of the Victorian-era "Amazon Planet" novel Herland.
kei & yuri | 07.15.06 - 11:06 pm | #
Seriously -- is there any subject
you won't pontificate about?
No disrespect, but you must be
a performance artist.
After I mentioned that well-endowed lady, there was a lull of five minutes before another post.
What were you all doing?
Lieing back and thinking of England. Okay, maybe that was just me.
like it or not, we all support israel.
gary in fl
I don't.
After I mentioned that well-endowed lady, there was a lull of five minutes before another post.
What were you all doing?
Passive-agressively turning down the TV volume while my roommate was taking a piss, and then going back to my desk.
Anybody want to buy my current convertible? Reasonable....
Maybe;
What is it, and what year?
How many miles?
Condition?
Pictures?
Air conditioning?
Doug,
Lebaron, 1992, 98k, not at all bad, just back from Burgie the Mechanic, white, a/c, top&windows go up and down, all the other critical things work good, top has two slashes from the foul evildoer who tried to steal it, but that can be repaired, trunk hinge needs to be fixed cause otherwise it goes clunk on your head. Everything else? Runs about 30mpg. Nice car.
Check out Ariel Sharon biography...reads like Konfessions of a Klansman. He is the Zio-version of al-Zarqawi.
Yes, these past 5 years have not been journalism's finest hour. The NYT have covered up so many crimes
Actually, I think they've been active participants, and not just Judy Miller.
As opposed to the opinionless mr simels, who is ... a fucking music critic. It seems the problem is a matter of amateurism.
Also, the sinister activist judges in their war on Christianity seize a church's guns.
C'mon Steve, everybody here's an expert.
That's the beauty of the Internets.
Check out Menachem Begins autobiography. A monster as perfect as any Nazi Germany conjured up.
Power steering, power brakes, power locks, cruise control - all work.
Hello.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Hi, Vicki.
Right now enjoying some of that potato salad.
Thanks again for the recipe. Like I said, it was a HUGE hit at the picnic.
Everything else? Runs about 30mpg. Nice car.
GWPDA
What do you want for this. I may need an AC buzzbomb for down there. My mits PU truck has no AC and the conversion would be expensive and complicated. I may be in the market for another vehicle if the price is right. (I don't want to buy a new auto, if I don't need to)
(((LURK)))
A bit of a lull here. What was that Israeli chick's name again?
Sharon: Former paratroop commando and commander with extensive battle honors
Bibi: Former recon
Barak: Former commando
Olmert: Injured enlisted in a combat brigade, he became a "combat journalist."
In a militaristic society with compulsory service, one can only speculate on the meaning of such a gap...
What was that Israeli chick's name again?
Eden Mor.
I think its a pseudonym.
Just remenber. She had to serve in the military.
A bit of a lull here. What was that Israeli chick's name again?
James Jesus Rimbaud | 07.15.06 - 11:22 pm |
Don't know if it's Eden Mor or if you can shortcut to pics with Google Images.
GWPDA, email me if you want to talk more about the convertible. I'm running out for a bit.
Kelly's 3400, I'll go 3.
Water pump just was replaced, couple of other things. I think I need to add Freon to the system - understand it's been in the wrong hands for awhile - but the rig works well. Rubber's all been replaced within the last year, which you'll learn is a primary deal out here - fuel hose and like that. Battery should have another three summers on it. Registration is now running a big $50/pa. Tires - Michelins, probably still have 20k left on them.
owls
My mits PU truck has no AC and the conversion would be expensive and complicated.
Doug, often not as compicated as you would think. Two major pieces in the kit:condenser and compressor. Most vehicles nowadays either have it or are built ready for it. The kits come with the wiring harnesses and tubing, etc all ready to go. It'll take a weekend under the hood.
Senator Lieberman fails to help Connecticut's economy.
As opposed to the opinionless mr simels, who is ... a fucking music critic. It
seems the problem is a matter of amateurism.
Also, the sinister activist judges in their war on Christianity seize a church's
guns.
kei & yuri | 07.15.06 - 11:17 pm | #
Okay, I'll cop to that.
But that doesn't change the fact that
you guys overthink everything, sometimes --
a lot --
to the point of absurdity.
Or as I said the other day, when
I read your stuff I'm often reminded
of the Springsteen line:
"I swear I found the keys to the
universe in the engine of an old
parked car."
You didn't, and you won't.
the former the latter
the latter the former
the former the latter
........they sang as they frolicked around the farm
Eden Mor.
Her motto?
"Oh, my aching back!"
"Oh, my aching back!"
Terry C, Patriotic Dissent
There is no possible way she sleeps on her stomach.
After looking at Ms. Mor.
I have but one question.
Does the "Law of Return" apply to gentiles?
Interestingly, parthenogenesis happens to be our favorite exasperated anti-male rant. "Kill all the males, and the emergency atmosphere will force some women to mutate ...replacement. IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED IN RABBITS!!" It was the premise of the Victorian-era "Amazon Planet" novel Herland.
kei & yuri
Also, IIRC, "The Female Man" and "Houston, Houston, Do You Read?", both of which are excellent. Although it was technology, not mutation.
Also Joanna Russ' "When it Changed", also with technology, though she doesn't go into it, beyond "merging of ova".
The entire musical score which Bernard Herrmann wrote for "Psycho" was comprised entirely of string instruments.
"The Female Man"
"jesus bridegroom"
imagine this..odds end
It'll take a weekend under the hood.
Max Planck
Shutup Max. 'Enkew.
"Oh, my aching back!"
Terry C, Patriotic Dissent
There is no possible way she sleeps on her stomach.
Max Planck
Not unless she enjoys sleeping on an angle!
Israel has no oil.
But it is not without "natural resources"
You liberals are completely around the bend with that wacky bias. Why does the left always support terror and taxation?
Shame no one thought to castrate William F. Buckley's father.
You liberals are completely around the bend with that wacky bias. Why does the left always support terror and taxation?
Alan Hamilton
Why are you out without your keeper?
So I think the Democrats are making a mistake to go after each other ... for a situation none of them created.
On the contrary, some of them did help to create this situation.
Some of them were duped, either willfully or not, into voting to unconstitutionally grant Congressional authority to the executive branch.
Some of them, like Joe Lieberman, were among the most vocal and vehement advocates of this stupid, senseless invasion.
It is only sensible for the voters of Connecticut to want someone who will really represent their interests. Clinton should have committed to supporting the winner of the primary race.
You liberals are completely around the bend with that wacky bias. Why does the left always support terror and taxation?
Alan Hamilton
your name has been entered into the dreamstate hypnopaeda digest expect strong dreams. goodnite.
A troll. How fascinating. But can it save this slow moving thread?
Although it does not actually suprise me that grade A cocksucker and all round idiot K*nt Hovind had guns in his "church", neatly stored, no doubt, beneath the copies of the "Protocols of the Elders of ZXion" that he sells, you have to ask yourself...
If there really is a God, then why hasn't this fucknozzle been smoted?
Why does the left oppose any religion, or hard work, or incentive, or the right to defend ourselves?
If they come for my guns, they will be sorry.
Wow, the trolls are out in force.
Katie Melua.....both cd's
"Skylarking" is a gorgeously Summery cd by XTC.
Why does it ALWAYS smell like s*it when I'm around...
Oh yeah... That whole "Head Up Ass" thing again.
"Why does the left always support terror and taxation?"
Why does the right always think taxation is terror?
If you liked The Human Stain, then American Pastoral will drive you into paroxysms of literary ecstasy.
At the risk of coming across as Estaban Rojo, this is the dumbest fucking endorsement I have ever seen in my life.
Can a nation get by as a democracy with single digit voting???
It's this sort of strict adherence to status quo that begs for shitheads like Hitler to come out from under their rocks.
GODDAMNIT! Joe -fucking- Lieberman is the best the Democrats have to offer??? Why bother voting?
What the fuck is wrong with Clinton? Fuck him.
"Sadly, neither Lanny Davis nor Bill Clinton have learned much from that whole affair."
This is not at all suprising. These characters are the ones responsible for the state of the democratic party today. It can be argued that the ascendacy & result of Clintonism is the undoing of the democratic party. While I have great respect for Clinton and his personal political skills, I have always felt that he you could not build a poltical movement around it. It is simply to concerned with me-ism: where it is great for getting the token individual politician elected, it does not have any coattails. It is also a perenially political posture, both in perception and to a very large degree in reality.
CORRETCION: meant to write>>>
It is also a perenially WEAK political posture, both in perception and to a very large degree in reality.
Urban | 07.16.06 - 3:15 pm | #
Want to stop a bloviating repug in his tracks? Tell him/her you dislike Bill Clinton too (but not for the idiotic reasons Repugs hate him). Simply, Clinton implemented conservative policies and appointed conservatives in sensitive positions and did much to set back progressivism in the USA. Talking to real Americans across the nation, I always hear that they really hold a grudge against conservative Dems especially those who always side with Corporate America. Frequently I hear that Americans like electing conservative Repugs because they know what they are getting up front.
Oh, and as for Clinton giving his sage election advise to other Dems, it would be most helpful if Clinton could convince Ross Perot to run in all elections and do what he did for Clinton. All Perot's votes came from conservative voters who would have otherwise voted for the Repug candidate... twice. If Perot had not run in 1992, Bush Sr would have won and we would never agian have heard from the DLC, and the progressive revolution that has been growing since 2004 would instead have started in 1992. BTW...Clinton got fewer votes in 1992 than Dukakis got in 1988, and he never got more than 49% of the electorate. Is it any wonder that Dems keep loosing elections and re-elections by following the advise of Bill Clinton?
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