I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
WhoooHooo!
A rule for life:
Any "news" program that can devote five minutes to an idiot from the American Enterprise Institute doesn't need to be two hours long.
I coulda been first, but I read the link.
almost frist!
"I coulda been first, but I read the link."
Ethiopia 'seizes new Somali town'
Ethiopian troops have reportedly moved into another town in south-western Somalia, two days after entering the country to protect the weak government.
Eyewitnesses say about 200 Ethiopian soldiers took control of the airstrip outside Waajid early on Saturday.
There is no confirmation from either the Ethiopian or the Somali government.
The Union of the Islamic Courts (UIC), a militia which controls the capital and much of the south, has vowed to drive out Ethiopian troops.
almost frist!
jdw | 07.22.06 - 8:43 am
Mornin', fellow Ohioan. Umm, not to be rude, but I've not seen any catblogging from you for awhile.
The causes of 21st century wars are all based in internal politics.
Domestic politics also were the real driving force behind wars in the late 20th century.
Billmon: The Hirohito Effect
I coulda been first, but I read the link.
Hugo Bishop | 07.22.06 - 8:43 am | #
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i remember reading somewhere that there is one born every minute.
So now Condoleeza calls Israel's destruction of Lebanon "a new birth" and bush send more bombs -- What is to be done to stop our complicity in expanding terror?
12th?
More Lebanon incursions, not invasion: Israel army
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Israel will pursue its war on Hizbollah with more military incursions into south Lebanon but will not unleash a full-scale invasion for the moment, an Israeli army spokesman said on Saturday.
Thousands of Lebanese civilians have fled north fearing Israel will invade and expand an 11-day-old bombardment of Lebanon which has killed 345 people, mostly civilians.
Resisting international pressure for a ceasefire, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said before a trip to the region that the conflict's root causes -- in her view Hizbollah's armed presence on Israel's border and the role of its allies, Syria and Iran -- had to be tackled first.
An army spokesman said Israeli forces were making only limited thrusts a few kilometers (miles) into south Lebanon.
Wolcott: Moral Savagery
La di dah.
La di dah.
We need to bring the intifada home.
Morning Buckeye from an Ahian in New York
Didja chase the spooks outta your apartment, res?
"Umm, not to be rude, but I've not seen any catblogging from you for awhile."
i know, and the guilt is heavy 
just very busy...hope to get back to regular kittie posting in a month or so...
We need to bring the intifada home.
Partisanpoet | Homepage | 07.22.06 - 8:48 am | #
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move to new mexico and join the intifada encantada.
masculine_monica_nyc ...
No. I am a big wuss and called my neighbor, who came downstairs and did a full investigation. It seems to have gone away. There was definitely some sort of interloper running around in the walls, though.
Iraqi speaker decries US 'butchery'
US forces have committed butchery in Iraq and should leave, the speaker of the country's parliament has said.
Mahmoud al-Mashhadani was speaking on Saturday at a UN-sponsored conference on transitional justice and reconciliation in Baghdad.
"Just get your hands off Iraq and the Iraqi people and Muslim countries, and everything will be all right," he said in a speech as the conference opened.
"What has been done in Iraq is a kind of butchery of the Iraqi people."
He also criticised US support for Israeli attacks against Lebanon.
masculine_monica_nyc ...
Did you ever read The Human Stain, by Philip Roth? I can't hear the word "spooks" without thinking of it.
mornin blogniks
OT, I suppose, but with all the news concentration on Lebanon/Israel, there hasn't been much said about a very important element in the upcoming elections.
Morning Buckeye from an Ahian in New York
klyde | 07.22.06 - 8:49 am
Morning, Klyde!
Not being a native buckeye, I still haven't gotten the proper pronunciation of Ahia quite right. When I do, I'll know it's time to leave.
Have a good morning everyone. My friend has arrived to take me and my eldest fuzzball off to the vet. He's had a respiratory infection, which of course, he doesn't have anymore. He's going anyway.
There was definitely some sort of interloper running around in the walls, though.
Oh, I had one of those once. It was the strangest sensation — hearing something nearby but not quite in the room.
Glad yours has traveled on.
So if Condi calls Lebanon's destruction a new birth, does that mean it's open season on born-again Christians? Makes about as much sense.
And, no, NSA, that's not a threat. If the fundies really belong to Jesus, which I profoundly doubt, he can call them home himself.
The fact that Falwell, Robertson, Dobson and of course Oral Roberts are still on earth proves how reluctant Jesus is to claim them.
Dead thread notes:Remotely checked my mail:"hey, we made it and are all still alive, the wedding was great and we are
leaving tomorow morning to go south for the vacation. talk to you again when
i get a chance."
Molly, enjoy em while they are young and not so damned snarky.
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Diane, you mean Christ was not the conqueror leading his Christian Soldiers onto killing all the non-believers?
What kind of a religion is that!
DWD - in Ohio | 07.22.06 - 8:48 am | #
mm_nyc...
We searched for possible points of entry and didn't find any. So after a while, we were both stamping our feet on the floor, hoping to scare it away, which seems to have worked. It was, as Marcia Brady described, a "scritch-scritch" sound.
I am not good with critters of the rodent variety.
Did you ever read The Human Stain, by Philip Roth? I can't hear the word "spooks" without thinking of it.
Yeah: "Do they exist or are they spooks?" That was a strange book; I mean, the rants were hallucinatory.
Diane, you mean Christ was not the conqueror leading his Christian Soldiers onto killing all the non-believers?
What kind of a religion is that!
DWD - in Ohio | 07.22.06 - 8:48 am | #
Hell, he even had nice things to say about the enemy (i.e., Samaritans).
Oh, and thanks for the repost.
G'morning, all.
Hey, you saw this, right? : "....But Israel’s request for expedited delivery of the satellite and laser-guided bombs was described as unusual by some military officers, and as an indication that Israel still had a long list of targets in Lebanon to strike. "
i'm calling this one as the next step in what i've been saying. The unbombed targets are not in Lebanon. They are in Iran. Bushco will not stop blocking ceasefires, etc, until the Israeli Air Force has hit all the Bushco targets in Iran. that is the fee for the US assistance to Israel in Lebanon - and maybe Syria, if it all spins according to 'der Plan'.
Hey, wait, heeeeere's Condi! : "Resisting international pressure for a ceasefire, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said before a trip to the region that the conflict's root causes -- in her view Hizbollah's armed presence on Israel's border and the role of its allies, Syria and Iran -- had to be tackled first."
So, Israel into Syria, and IAF bombing the Bushco sites in Iran. One would almost think that PNAC is still running the White House, and through the WH the subordinate Congress and stacked SCOTUS.
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I am not good with critters of the rodent variety.
I don't mind 'em outside — or if they pass through quickly when there's construction in the building.
I just don't want them setting up camp in my apt.
I am really disgusted with churches - all churches. Honestly, if they do not agree with the fundies it is time they stood up and loud and proudly declared them unchristian.
But the silence is deafening. Old saying, If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem seems to apply here.
I actually drove by a church the other day and thought, This is the place where hate dwells.
War is ritual. I think he have to compare them to pagan sacrificial rituals. Build themselves up into a frenzy, trying to reenact the original scene where there was a "real" opponent, and then they take the poor fella who throughout the ritual has been built up to be this original bad guy and march him up there and rip out his heart.
Summary:
1. Internal discord / destabilization
2. Need for ritual to return former unanimity / conformity
3. Ritual to put people into frenzy or state mind of original violence (WWII was our original violence)
4. Poor slob, dress him all up to be Hitler and then rip out his heart.
Kind of like movies where the bad guy is designated and then we all gang up on him and he's destroyed, we cheer and feel good about ourselves.
Protests in UK at Israeli action
Thousands of people across the UK are joining demonstrations against Israeli attacks on Lebanon.
Eleven rallies were organised by groups such as Stop The War Coalition and the Muslim Association of Britain.
They are being held in towns and cities including Birmingham, Glasgow, Edinburgh, London, Exeter and York.
The rallies come as the UK begins winding down its evacuation of Britons from Lebanon. About 3,000 have been taken to safety in Cyprus since Monday.
Meanwhile, a rally to show solidarity with people in northern Israel - areas of which have been hit by Hezbollah rockets - is being held on Sunday by the Board of Deputies of British Jews.
"pagan sacrificial rituals."
As a pagan, i want to say, keep your Xtian projections of the violent Other off us and at home. 
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'I am not good with critters of the rodent variety.
res ipsa loquitur '
You would have been mesmerized by recent events here, I came home and shortly after I walked in the door two field mice scampered out from the back, out thru a crack in the kitchen sink area where the pipes go thru the wall outside, I walked s-l-o-w-l-y into the kitchen where I saw a snake twined around the sink by which time I was laughing hysterically, tapped something against the sink until the snake s-l-o-w-l-y dropped out of sight, at which point I located the baby field mouse in the sink where it couldn't get out, scooped it into a can and let it go outside. Don't live in the country if you don't tolerate wildlife.
As a pagan, i want to say, keep your Xtian projections of the violent Other off us and at home.
*ahem*
No historical revisionism or I will unleash my pedantry.
dwd, i'm with you on your take on churches.
Ruth,
My problem is rodents. I don't think a snake would scare me too much. Once I was in the local bagel joint and saw something run along the floor in my left peripheral vision. I thought it was a mouse and then I saw that it was a squirrel and I jumped up on my chair and started shrieking. (A lot of other people did too, so I wasn't alone in looking like an idiot.)
"No historical revisionism or I will unleash my pedantry."
Do that, and we discuss the ritual cannibalism of the Mass.
Agree to stop here?
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As a pagan, i want to say, keep your Xtian projections of the violent Other off us and at home.
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you got something on your lip.
I actually drove by a church the other day and thought, This is the place where hate dwells.
DWD
The line is, IIRC...
"All that is required for evil to triumph is for men of good will to do nothing."
Of course, that assumes "good will", of which I remain unconvinced.
I jumped up on my chair and started shrieking.
That would be my reaction if I saw Barry Manilow in the room.
"I jumped up on my chair and started shooting.
That would be my reaction if I saw Barry Manilow in the room."
Fixed yer spelling.
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fuck you helloscam
I jumped up on my chair and started shrieking.
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oh please spare me this elitist anti-mouse crap.
the religion of ancient Greece and Rome was more concerned about orthopraxy (doing the right things), was more important than orthodoxy (believing the right things).
Ancient Religions had no concept of 'sin' 'salvation' etc. or any Judeao-Christian notions.
there was no real single version and the Romans could be pretty relaxed when it came to other deities (except this strange sect called 'christanity', whats this about only worshipping one god and not allowing any other deities, its madness!).
at certain stages in Roman history cults like Bacchus and Isis were banned because they caused riots and disturbed the peace (but they always came back in one form or another)
Squirrels are destructive, but I have a hard time not loving them, but have to remove them from the attic occasionally. I get everything from armadillos to deer out here. And coyotes.
fuck you helloscam
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek | Homepage | 07.22.06 - 9:11 am | #
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that's what i always say.
Then there was the rat outbreak on my block last summer. Construction project across the street. The fuckers were running across the street and sidewalks with impunity ... in broad daylight. Night was worse. I was a nervous wreck.
Casa Moonbootica garden has resident hedgehogs
Don't want to be seen as defending fundies. I'm anti-fundie, but the Greeks did have the pharmakoi.
I actually drove by a church the other day and thought, This is the place where hate dwells.
DWD
You are correct when it comes to the response of progressive Christians toward the Religious Reich.
However, it hasn't all been silence: there's this group, for example.
Iraq is the fundie pharmakos.
I and about 600 people saw Scott Ritter and Ray McGovern speak in Bethlehem PA last night. Ritter was really harsh and bitter. McGovern more mellow but just as bitter and both shoock up the crowd a bit.
christianity has nothing at all to do with jesus. the religion was invented by the "apostle" paul, who was not actually an apostle anyway. he was also insane.
Moonbootica, have you ever read The Bacchae? Good argument against orgies.
Lebanon is once again torn apart by vicious strife. But when the bloodletting is over, the warring parties will have no alternative but peaceful co-existence.
would he exhibit the same sang froid if it were Dublin which were being reft by such hideous spasms of violence and destruction?
somehow i fuukin doubt it...
and good morrow, murcielagos de luna...
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Agree to stop here?
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Cynicus
No.
The Roman games. The Central American sacrifice and cannibalism. The Melanesian sacrifice and cannibalism. The Wicker Man. The Bog people.
etc, etc.
ALL religion is rooted in sacrifice and cannibalism. ALL of it. "Pagan", Levantine, whatever.
Ruth no but i shall have to add that to my reading list
'the religion was invented by the "apostle" paul, who was not actually an apostle anyway. '
He actually won out over his counterparts who wanted to follow christian principles, paul however won over the church hierarchy by inventing the offering of blessings/confession for a price.
Iran urges Muslim countries to stop Mideast conflict
TEHRAN (AFP) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been lobbying Muslims to be more active in seeking an end to Israel's continuing assault on Gaza and Lebanon, his office said.
"The silence of the United Nations... and some Western countries' support for Zionist atrocities against defenceless children and women calls for a more active role by Muslim nations to put an end to these attacks," Ahmadinejad said.
The president, a fierce opponent of Israel's existence, also held telephone talks with leaders from Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, and called for for an emergency meeting of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC).
res,
rats and mice tend to stay away from apartments with cats.
Moonbootica, have you ever read The Bacchae? Good argument against orgies.
At least for men.
"would he exhibit the same sang froid if it were Dublin which were being reft by such hideous spasms of violence and destruction?"
Maybe he'll give us a follow-up piece when Israel has gone into Syria and bombed the Busahco targets in Iran.
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That was possibly an owl in RIL's apt.
Ruth no but i shall have to add that to my reading list
Moonbootica, Buffy Geek | Homepage | 07.22.06 - 9:15 am | #
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read "the golden bough" first. in the words of the author, j. g. frazier, it illuminates a lot of the rituals tyhat are engaged in by savages in various remote parts of the world, such as africa, australia, and scotland.
Was this unbelievably dumb assertion discussed at all recently? CNN had an article in its technology section about Bush's groping of Merkel and the attention it was getting on the web, especially because of items posted on YouTube. But look what it says about Christy Hardin Smith when she made a generic comment about Bush's fratboy experience:
Many writers saw a sexist aspect to Bush's back rub. "This isn't a Sigma Chi kegger, it's the G-8 Summit," wrote blogger Christy Hardin Smith on Firedoglake.com.
(Bush was actually in Delta Kappa Epsilon. Another Web 2.0 truism: Blogs are not always friendly with the facts.)
Talk about having something go completely over one's head. And I doubt that this was even intentional.
Dunderhead.
Ancient Religions had no concept of 'sin' 'salvation' etc. or any Judeao-Christian notions.
Depends where you want to look, and how you want to define "sin" and "salvation".
Good morning, moonbats. It's 76 degress now, finally, so all my windows are open and the fans are going. Trying to cool down the house before it heats up again. It'll be over 100 this afternoon-in the pacific northwest. This sucks.
res ipsa loquitur,
You should contact the city health inforcment officer. If the demolition company didn't "pre-bate" the site before starting, the broke the law. They will be held accountable and be forced to provide pest control for all thise affected.
"The Roman games."
Persisted for over a century AFTER the conversion of the Empire to Christianity.
Like today's Christians cheering for football violence or Lebanese bombing, vicarious violence thrills are not specified by religion.
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Talk about having something go completely over one's head. And I doubt that this was even intentional.
Dunderhead.
pie
Particularly since the implicit conclusion of Hardin's comment is that Mme Merkel is not "The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi".
Good morning all - fair sized storm (no rain) last night, but all is intact. And only 94!
morning, gwpda!
pie, I saw that lame piece too. What an idiot! I liked Christie's response to it though.
(something like) Hey, he wrote about the story, so it's one more chance to plant the "Bush at a frat party" phrase in people's heads, so cool!
And an msm mention of Firedoglake don't hurt either. 
Sullied sheets.
seriously, the central figure in what is called "christianity" is not that jesus guy. the central figure is the apostle paul, who was not actually an apostle.
haloscan is taking ages to post
paul was a bullshitter who wrote most of the new testament.
'At least for men.
spinoza'
You might be surprised to know it's not nice to wake up and find you tore up [and possibly ate] your significant other. heh
Pie, I mentioned that yesterday because the reference was to a song, The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi that sort of referenced the collegiate Greek societies - you are right: whoever wrote this is fucking stupid.
Persisted for over a century AFTER the conversion of the Empire to Christianity.
They were religious and pagan from the get go.
Funeral games in which slaves were sacrifeced for the dead.
Persisted for over a century AFTER the conversion of the Empire to Christianity.
They were religious and pagan from the get go.
Funeral games in which slaves were sacrifeced for the dead.
You might be surprised to know it's not nice to wake up and find you tore up [and possibly ate] your significant other. heh
Ruthrabidpartisan | Homepage | 07.22.06 - 9:27 am | #
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unless you happen to be a praying mantis. they see that as a night well spent.
I liked Christie's response to it though.
I had to work 'til 9:00 last night so I missed all the discussion. The store uses CNN as its homepage and that's how I saw this (since I wouldn't visit there otherwise).
She's right about the exposure, but still...
*rolls eyes*
(And I'm not saying the blogs don't make mistakes, but the good ones, if they do, are usually quick to correct them).
'paul was a bullshitter who wrote most of the new testament.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista!'
Canonical was decided by the church heirarchy, so naturally the guy that made them rich got lots of patronage. Read 'The Gnostic Gospels' if you get a chance, Pagels is great.
You might be surprised to know it's not nice to wake up and find you tore up [and possibly ate] your significant other. heh
I.refuse.to.reinterpret.that.in.any.way
'unless you happen to be a praying mantis. they see that as a night well spent.
Olaf glad and big, Guzzista! '
And a protected species. Wonderful little ladies, despite poor dietary habits.
Anyhow, later, chiropterae.
The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi that sort of referenced the collegiate Greek societies
Exactly. To be charitable, I'll allow that this person was unaware of the song and therefore couldn't make the connection.
'I.refuse.to.reinterpret.that.in.any.way
spinoza'
wise choice.
My favorite anthropologist posits that primitive religions are the ritualizations of founding or original collective lynchings. Think about WWII and how Hitler has become a demigod and how powerful the idea of WWII is for the pro-war people. Group violence is a powerful thing. Jesus in John 10 said that if there was a crisis He or one his followers would stand in the breach take the violence on Himself and not redirect it to a pharmokos or to an Iraq or any other poor victim. Christianity is against lynching, murder, war, etc, it abhors violence. It realizes human propensity towards collective violence, and instead upholding the human tradition of redirecting human violence to some other poor slob, Christianity in the person of Jesus says that we should take that violence on ourselves. This in a nutshell is Christianity. This is communion, Christ giving us his broken body and blood so that we realize what we're doing, and won't kill our neighbor or someone else.
A Christianity that believes in war/murder is not Christianity.
Morning, Olav - I see that Itchy Brother is going to the Fair with us - there's going to be a posse-full of folks. You getting race tickets?
Why does the Left hate Israel?
Why does the Right hate everybody?
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