I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
frist
Second, yes?
second?
yo frist!
oh well
That's already what we're doing. And fuck dershowitz in flaming agony. Scum.
ever wonder what the inside of dick cheney's head looks like...?
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot...eneys-
head.html
So anyone who doesn't evacuate immediately when they're told deserves what they get?
Where have I heard this before...
There are legal distinctions between civilians? Do you have a cite for that, Alan! And no foreign law, by the way.
this concept aptly captures the reality and nuance of warfare today and provides a more fair way to describe those who are killed, wounded and punished.
Doesn't Dershowitz have it backwards? He is taking a nuanced issue and painting it black and white.
A new verb: Dershowitz: to legalize what is blatently illegal, as in "Rumsfeld and his ilk needed to Dershowitz the torture of suspected terrorists."
I add this to yesterday's word, merkel: to touch someoone in an inappropriate manner. "Bush could not overcome his desire to merkel the soldier."
Makes sense to me. That's two Jews I agree with. Him and my man Joe in Connecticut...
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Fuck that shit.
So if a wingnut kid doesn't rat out his father for cheating on taxes, that make the kid a tax evader, too?
Evacuate? Who's evacuating? Where? Go to the coast? Inland? North to Canada? Mexico?
/runs about screaming, pulling hair
Oh. Lebanon.
Ya, anybody who's in Lebanon deserves what they get. I mean, it's a foreign country, fer gawdssakes.
I don't know if this is a new standard, it sounds a lot like the old we have to destroy the country to save it rationale used in Vietnam.
The jackboots didn't work for Condi either;
CNN poll -
'Will Condoleezza Rice's diplomatic mission help to ease the Middle East crisis?
Yes 23% 3037 votes
No 77% 10436 votes
Total: 13473 votes '
Damn those dead children for not overthrowing the not-regime that provided basic social services...
Alan Dershowitz, let's see: graduated college 1959, law school 1962. Clerked for federal judges 1963 and 1964. Professor at Harvard 1964 until present. Career has focused on criminal law with several high profile clients.
Nope, no expertise in military science.
Yes 23% 3037 votes
No 77% 10436 votes
Where are the "Hell to the no!" and "Will make things worse" options?
The Dersh needs to stop legitimizing the Protocols like that.
Pretty soon, he'll be denouncing organized Christianity for impeading the Right of Jews to use the blood of Christian babies in Passover matzoh.
"Big Jewy Jews = Always in the right, no matter what.
Everyone else = Not so much."
</Alan Dershowitz>
BTW, it looks like the Rasmussen poll is for real. They have it at FDL.
The civilians should just lay back and think of England.
The civilians should just lay back and think of England.
This is an amazing statement:
"Those who voluntarily remain behind have become complicit. Some — those who cannot leave on their own — should be counted among the innocent victims."
Usually this is the sort of encapsulation that a blogger would use for the purpose of ridicule, as in:
"Shorter Alan Dershowitz: ...."
Sick puppy.
This will help the next time a hurricane threatens New Orleans. We need a new vocabulary to reflect the realities of modern weather. A new phrase should be introduced into the reporting and analysis of natural disasters: "the continuum of civilianality." Though cumbersome, this concept aptly captures the reality and nuance of weather and provides a more fair way to describe those who are killed, wounded and punished.
Thanks Alan! You'lll be a great defense attorney at the Hague for Rumsfeld, Cheney et al.
Dershowitz via Drum; 'A new phrase should be introduced into the reporting and analysis of current events in the Middle East: "the continuum of civilianality." '
So if you don't scamper off under bombs falling, down roads that have been destroyed, you're one of the terrists. This is sure to justify victimizing more innocent civilians, if you have goo for brains.
Of course, under the Dershowitz Doctrine, we must do something or be complicit. We can't just use "I didn't vote for him" as an excuse.
(fuck you FBI, NSA, CIA)
So anyone who doesn't evacuate immediately when they're told deserves what they get?
Where have I heard this before...
Eli
Did I mention that one group of my family were on the last ship accepted for entry at Havana for trans-shipping to the States before all such ships were turned back to Nazi Germany? There's luck and there's luck. The bad part of course is that they ended up in Michigan....
This will help the next time a hurricane threatens New Orleans.
Those who stay behind are actively complicit with the hurricane.
Amen, kill 'em all, grind 'em down.
I'll sort it out.
WhooHooo!!!!
Oh, and to make things more fun for those on the Continuum of Blowed-Upedness, we're gonna go ahead and bomb the roads, rails and food and power sources. Now snap to it!
The bad part of course is that they ended up in Michigan....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh well, it could be worse. Mine ended up in Ohio.
'Where are the "Hell to the no!" and "Will make things worse" options?
Eli '
No write ins. If CNN doesn't get it, you have to go comment on a blog.
Harvard ain't what it used to be...
So anyone who doesn't evacuate immediately when they're told deserves what they get?
What if the airports, railroads, and harbors are all bombed out and any vehicles traveling are attacked?
'Where are the "Hell to the no!" and "Will make things worse" options?
Eli '
Or, the "Jane, get me off this crazy thing!" option.
Why is Dershowitz and apparently lots of other people pretending that this kind of "modern warfare" is a new development? Hezbollah is hardly the first group to behave this way. And Dershowitz is hardly the first person to try to come up with a way of pretending that genuine moral and political realities in this sort of a conflict just don't exist.
The move Israel is pulling has never worked in the past. Won't work now, either.
It's getting harder and harder to be an Israeli apologist.
"No write ins. If CNN doesn't get it, you have to go comment on a blog."
Don't you mean, "...go comment on an angry, shrill left wing blog"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh well, it could be worse. Mine ended up in Ohio.
spinoza
You just gotta believe they didn't know any better - but maybe they were complicit....
The civilians should just lay back and think of England
Hmm, one could make a sick joke here about the prisoners at Abu Ghraib and a certain Lynndie England, but that would be wrong.
Harvard ain't what it used to be...
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The man is a disgrace.
Arlen Spector morphs into Britney Spears.
Think of how much money we could save on prisons, if criminal defendants were allowed to use the "complicity of the victim" defense like this.
All ya gotta do is warn your victim that you're about to do something horrible to them, and if they don't do -enough- to get out of the way, you're off the hook.
Is it just me, or is this just a really fancy way of saying "Kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out"?
Will Condoleezza Rice's diplomatic mission help to ease the Middle East crisis?
Sure it will! Why, look at her amazing record so far in the Middle East!
I mean, when everyone in the Middle East is dead, hooray, no more crisis!
A new phrase should be introduced into the reporting and analysis of current events in the Middle East: "the continuum of civilianality." Though cumbersome, this concept aptly captures the reality and nuance of warfare today and provides a more fair way to describe those who are killed, wounded and punished.
The Israeli army has given well-publicized notice to civilians to leave those areas of southern Lebanon that have been turned into war zones. Those who voluntarily remain behind have become complicit. Some — those who cannot leave on their own — should be counted among the innocent victims.
If the media were to adopt this "continuum," it would be informative to learn how many of the "civilian casualties" fall closer to the line of complicity and how many fall closer to the line of innocence.
Every civilian death is a tragedy, but some are more tragic than others.
Where do government dew breakers fit in here?
'Don't you mean, "...go comment on an angry, shrill left wing blog"
Chris Tucker '
Only if you don't believe Randy Andy that they're terrorist sympathizers - oh, that was last week.
A new phrase should be introduced into the reporting and analysis of current events in the Middle East: "the continuum of civilianality."
How about a new phrase for people who make pronouncements about the ME: 'the continuum of asshattery.'
Think of how much money we could save on prisons, if criminal defendants were allowed to use the "complicity of the victim" defense like this.
I take it back. Dershowitz is the most devious criminal defense lawyer this country has ever seen. He has just laid authoritative groundwork for "The bitch was asking for it defense."
Is it just me, or is this just a really fancy way of saying "Kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out"?
It's not just you.
But the great irony is that stem cell research would help us develop a DNA test for civilianality.
NTodd, you misspelled "assholery" up there.
'I mean, when everyone in the Middle East is dead, hooray, no more crisis!
Thers, Now with Minions! '
You will be sorry you revealed The PLAN. or was it the Final Solution?
"Mr. Dershowitz, you have 5 minutes to get out of your office."
"What?"
"5 minutes and then I'm moving in."
"But that would be wrong."
"Not if I warn you first..."
Is it just me, or is this just a really fancy way of saying "Kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out"?
Nope, that's exactly what he's saying.
Because it's just too much to deal with.
Israel cancels invasion.
http://today.reuters.com/News/ne...me-C1-topNews-
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I mean, when everyone in the Middle East is dead, hooray, no more crisis!
Thers, Now with Minions!
And our Secretary of Defense has repeatedly and publicly stated that the murder rate in Baghdad is no different than any city in the United States.
And smiled his Jack O Lantern smile while doing so.
Why is Dershowitz and apparently lots of other people pretending that this kind of "modern warfare" is a new development? Hezbollah is hardly the first group to behave this way. And Dershowitz is hardly the first person to try to come up with a way of pretending that genuine moral and political realities in this sort of a conflict just don't exist.
It's willful blindness to history -- faith-based torture policy, if you will.
if you see a saudi prince nursing from a goat at the petting zoo do you report him?
or do you hold his hand and walk down a red carpet?
Because it's just too much to deal with.
Aww. Kitty pot pie.
"Because it's just too much to deal with."
Is it just me, or are the Chinese restaurants just getting lazy?
So is Dershowitz saying it is like comparative negligence or contributory negligence?
It is incredibly dispiriting.
Once it is established that one fucked up policy has been disastrous the fix is to have an even MORE fucked up policy.
AAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!
Is it just me, or are the Chinese restaurants just getting lazy?
Chris Tucker
oh that's bad!
Remember, 4 days ago, Israel wasn't going into Lebanon at all.
Arlen Spector morphs into Britney Spears.
lambert strether
Dude, that's just wrong!
Israel showed mercy and cancelled the invasion.
A sports editor for the local fishwrapper got a column printed on the actual editorial pages regarding his newly found passion for futbol. He suggested making yellow and red cards for personal use in everyday life. I think I will get to work on mine.
Spinoza, I was thinking that too! This is exactly the same concept as what we saw with the right-wing's response to Katrina, where anyone who didn't/couldn't/wouldn't evacuate "deserved" what they got.
The situation in the Middle East, any situation in the Middle East, is too complex to be anything but helplessly stupid when reduced to that kind of soundbite, Dersh.
Mmm...a big plate of spicy "dry-fried green beans"
sounds good about now!
our local petting zoo is heavily pro israeli.
if a member of the 'hebrew resistance army' now aged and yet powerful
decides to suckle
at the breast of a mother goat
it's fine
oh boy
in fact uncle sam stuffs his pockets with cash
but a guy with a black turban
sucking at the goat's teat
is considered
somehow
a
threat
what gives?
Do you have any idea how tough it is to be Teddy in Phoenix, this time of year?
Israel is smarter than the United States.
They understand the high costs of an invasion and long occupation.
It's too bad george bush didn't act like Israel.
Man, I love that Alan, clearly a hat tip to me, don't misunderestimate me. "the continuum of civilianality."
Still, I'm stick'n with "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR AGAINST US!" it's been work'n so far.
WhooHooo!!!!
Remember boys and girls, WAR IS PEACE
From AP:
(AP) Residents in shock are helped after a rocket fired by Hexbollah guerrillas from neighboring Lebanon...
Whoi is this Hexbollah, anyway?
Spellcheck, idiots.
They understand the high costs of an invasion and long occupation.
::crickets::
MSNBC has bought into the Dershowitz line but going on and on today about civilians keeping weapons stored under their beds and how they're really all Hezbollah supporters anyway. Of course, they are now.
They understand the high costs of an invasion and long occupation.
Having occupied Lebanon for 18 years.
You're all heart.
Will Condoleezza Rice's diplomatic mission help to ease the Middle East crisis?
What fucking "diplomatic mission"? She's just going there to shop for shoes.
Nim, hell, why not, they do that with rape cases all the time, now... God forbid a woman should be wearing anything besides a baggy flannel shirt and a pair of old blue jeans -- they even call that style of dress "provocative," as if it's somehow women's responsibility for men raping them. What part of "Don't rape" don't these guys understand?
Similarly, what part of "collective punishment is bad" or "invasion is bad" don't these guys understand? Unfortunately, there's quite a bit of precedent...
Now I'm all disgusted, so I'm going to go make some dinner.
Why couldn't Ken Lay have been floating face down in the 9th Ward? Why couldn't Ken Lay have been ripped apart by incoming shells in the Middle East? Why couldn't Ken Lay have been laid off after 30 years on the job with a vested pension now worth zero?
If he keeps on the way he's been going Dershowitz is going to make his name a synonym for the kind of intellectual dishonesty he engages in whenever it comes to these issues. It's long past time that anyone who is interested in the truth pays attention to anything he has to say about anything to do with the middle east.
Sorry, Alan, I'm not buying it anymore.
Whoi is this Hexbollah, anyway?
They are from Hexbollia.
"Whoi is this Hexbollah, anyway?"
And what does the Wood's Hole Oceanographic Institute have to do with Hexbollan, anyway?
"Whoi is this Hexbollah, anyway?"
And what does the Wood's Hole Oceanographic Institute have to do with Hexbollan, anyway?
Israel has showed one of the great acts of mercy in world history.
They could have crushed lebanon if they wanted.
This decision will be noted by historians as the foundation of the lasting peace.
So are we supposed to no longer be upset by bombings in Iraq? I mean, afterall, the Iraqis haven't left, so they must all be terrorists...
when bill clinton visited the local petting zoo
he actually was able to suck 10 seconds longer
than the aged yet powerful member of
the
'hebrew resistance army'
and at the same time
shout
support 'holy joe'
his good friend
who declined to touch the goat's teat
saying
a filthy arab had already befouled it
Israel has showed one of the great acts of mercy in world history.
How nice of Israel to only kill several hundred people when they could've killed hundreds of thousands. Such...restraint.
She's just going there to shop for shoes.
Thus the meeting in Italy.
Alan Dershowitz has a photo of Harry Reams hanging in his office
MSNBC has bought into the Dershowitz line but going on and on today about civilians keeping weapons stored under their beds
A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the defense of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
hexbollah are those little wheels found on the sides of apartment bldgs that are slated to be bombed for hiding hexbollics.
ken lay's body will be encased
in an acrylic tomb
'at the petting zoo
with admission charged
to leave post-it notes
on the see-through coffin
A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the defense of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
That only counts for Americans. We aren't ever terrorists, just freedom fighters resisting the Clintons.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the defense of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
That only counts for Americans. We aren't ever terrorists, just freedom fighters resisting the Clintons.
Anonymous really has a gift for bat-shit insane hyperbole.
Did some idiot just suggest that Shrub should invade Canada?
MSNBC doesn't buy, it's in the business of selling whatever GE wants the goverment go buy.
civilians keeping weapons stored under their beds
U.S. citizens aren't allowed to have weapons.
So are we supposed to no longer be upset by bombings in Iraq? I mean, afterall, the Iraqis haven't left, so they must all be terrorists...
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Haven't you gotten used to expecting regular new installments in the ongoing series yet?
visit the diorama at the petting zoo
where you can view
actual israeli airforce cockpit footage
of
civilian convoys
being
strafed
and rocketed
later relax with the goat of your choice
in our
luxurious
milking station
Did some idiot just suggest that Shrub should invade Canada?
HunH?
Shorter Dershowitz:
"They bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into. I say, let'em crash."
we have saved over 1000 goats
from abandonment
in iraqui towns
no longer
inhabitable
patrolled by marvelous young heroes
with names
like
arnie
and
carl
and
lyddie
Did some idiot just suggest that Shrub should invade Canada?
Where does anybody think the US imports most of our oil?
That only counts for Americans. We aren't ever terrorists, just freedom fighters resisting the Clintons.
Funny, my copy doesn't have a limitation of "just for Americans."
So where do Israelis fit in the "continuum of civilianality". Every male serves 3 years, every female for 2, then on reserve until they are 40 - and can be called up on an hour's notice?
Ottawa - Get out Defence Plan No. 1.
Execute.
alan dershowitz was one of the first very high profile proponents of torture and gave a tremendous assist rationalizing it to the public. it's shameful that the most prominent and leading law schools in this country continue to retain him, john yoo et al as professors.
From the world-destroying Alberta tar sands.
get a load of the antisemitism going on in freeperland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1670555/
posts
they're just lovin them some jew-baiting.
This 'world war iii' BS the right-wing fundies are salivating over is disgusting. Can't they just be rapturized now and be rid of them?
fuck I hate these mother fuckers to death.
then on reserve until they are 40 - and can be called up on an hour's notice?
Nota
Man, fuck that, glad I was born in Texas.
So where do Israelis fit in the "continuum of civilianality".
Ah, see, there we don't measure the continuum of civilianality, but the continuum of Hebrewity. Israelis are all innocent, even the soldiers--why else would a war start because a soldier was kidnapped?
"the continuum of civilianality."
didn't Dershowitz first use this in his OJ Simpson defense?
nicole was warned after all. it really was her fault that OJ offed her.
I guess what we need to call US foreign policy is WifeBeater Foreign policy.
The policy of victimizers claiming to be victims and victims doing whatever they can to appease the ever changing rules of those who use the WifeBeater Foreign policy.
Can't they just be rapturized now and be rid of them?
I'm sorry, their names don't appear to be on the list. So sorry.
So where do Israelis fit in the "continuum of civilianality".
In the brightest light where rich white U.S. property owners can be found.
Funny, I didn't know that cats could gallop.
And Ron Goldman was just the faggot that got in the way.
didn't Dershowitz first use this in his OJ Simpson defense?
He lifted it from the expanded three-fifths compromise. Dershowitz is, after all, a scholar.
Time to run. Don't let the world blow up while I am out hunting leopard seals.
This decision will be noted by historians as the foundation of the lasting peace.
Anonymous
...and the horse you rode in on, cully.
Israel is not invading because for some reason they can't right now, either world opinion or home opinion in the face of increasing losses of life.
Ostensibly the Israeli military has done their job, clearing that border zone of Hezbollah, thus improving Israeli security. Let's see if they are willing to engage in a negotiated cease fire right now.
I'm not holding my breath.
everyone who continued to work in the World Trade Center towers after the first attack was complicit in their own deaths.
Animals. Is that the word you're looking for, Alan?
didn't Dershowitz first use this in his OJ Simpson defense?
He lifted it from the expanded three-fifths compromise. Dershowitz is, after all, a scholar.
masculine_monica_nyc | 07.22.06 - 4:59 pm | #
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There were many scholars in the other Reich too.
get a load of the antisemitism going on in freeperland
Reading a thread at freeperland is like driving by a car wreck.
I just posted the following on Drum's comment board:
I haven't read the whole thread so i don't know that it has been mentioned yet: that Dershowitz' passion for clarity in these 'security' matters has driven him to seek terms under which torture escapes opprobrium, and under which it is made available in the arsenal of 'defenders' of the (fill in the blank: faith, nation, book, church, state, people), in pursuit of whatever greater good/higher purpose/doomsday weapon/ultimate truth to which they aspire. He wants rules for mayhem, regulated slaughter, circumspect war crimes.
What these sophistries permit him to do, of course, is to escape the responsibility for any moral and ethical 'complications' (collateral damage) of his acts in the arcana of interpretation.
This is the pinnacle of intellectual dishonesty, but if Dershowitz has distinguished himself, it has been in his willingness to perform in these dangerous altitudes (and attitudes).
.
the petting zoo has imported
somalian jackrabbits
renowned for their leaping
ability
while stroking their thin grey furry coats
relax with tape-recorded messages from
mullahs
to the somalian islamic council
as they exhort
their armies to beat and slay
viewers of videos and
listeners
of music
See beneath glass the official correspondance between Hezbollah officials and the jackrabbit petting zoo in Mogadishu
Don't let the world blow up while I am out hunting leopard seals.
Remember to always use the biggest club on the smallest and most defenseless among the pups — after dropping leaflets on them, of course.
Did some idiot just suggest that Shrub should invade Canada?
Yea, just try. We'll drink you to submission.
MENA???
didja e-mail me yet?
.
Yea, just try. We'll drink you to submission.
Moe Szyslak
I have a butter-tart launcher beneath my bed
Israel is not invading because for some reason they can't right now, either world opinion or home opinion in the face of increasing losses of life.
They're more confident in their airpower than in their landpower?
There were many scholars in the other Reich too.
The Nuremberg Laws!
the deli at the petting zoo does not conform to the nuremburg slaws
Woody - check. You should have three separate pages from me.
They're more confident in their airpower than in their landpower?
I'd like to think they're at least smart enough to realize an occupation would be more of a disaster than this little jaunt.
Woody - check. You should have three separate pages from me.
Yea, just try. We'll drink you to submission.
Moe Szyslak - 5:02 pm
choose your vessel,
choose your poison,
choose your pub, o pseudo-Canuck!
Let the battle be joined!!!!!
OT and blog-promotion
Snowflakes or Burnt to a Crisp
'No invasion' says Israel as troops move into Lebanon
"You should not expect a full-scale incursion into Lebanon," he said. "We are already inside Lebanon and troops will continue to operate there because it is the only way to act against Hezbollah bunkers there."
It's not an invasion, it's an "invasion."
but canadians are drinking real beer
Did some idiot just suggest that Shrub should invade Canada?
Yea, just try. We'll drink you to submission.
Moe Szyslak |
While at Yale, Bush once drove to Montreal. He heard they were going to drink Canada Dry!
.
Invasion-ette!
Let the battle be joined!!!!!
What I wouldn't give to be part of that state fair she-bang. But, I daren't leave this place until the paperwork comes through (this coming week?). You'll really have to invade, I suppose.
Got annoying family visiting, and they must be attended to. We'll discuss terms next time around.
They're more confident in their airpower than in their landpower?
This article Raw Story linked to is a good primer on that subject:
http://www.worldtribune.com/
worl...0986111113.html
Basically they have invested heavily in their Air Force, and let their Army degrade. Now they are baffled what to do since the bombings have not stopped the artillery coming over the border.
While at Yale, Bush once drove to Montreal. He heard they were going to drink Canada Dry!
.
Agent Orange
Agent Orange Crush!!!
Which is the death that we should lament? The death of frozen embryos, left over from fertility treatments? Or the death of Israeli and Lebanese children, burnt to a crisp in the demented fires of war? Which types of children matter most: those which have not yet been born and are not going to be born, or those which were born, were loved, had names, just yesterday played outside with their friends?
Can DNA tests be used to establish civilianality?
Yea, just try. We'll drink you to submission.
Moe Szyslak - 5:02 pm
choose your vessel,
choose your poison,
choose your pub, o pseudo-Canuck!
Let the battle be joined!!!!!
WoodyGuthrie'sSnowflakinho | Homepage | 07.22.06 - 5:06 pm | #
See this! A patriot and his call to arms........... follow him! Follow him! Burp!!!!!!!!!!!
Can DNA tests be used to establish civilianality?
masculine_monica_nyc |
Why worry?
I'm sure we'd have "the right kind of people" making the determinations...
Basically they have invested heavily in their Air Force, and let their Army degrade. Now they are baffled what to do since the bombings have not stopped the artillery coming over the border.
Chris/tx | 07.22.06 - 5:08 pm | #
I sure am glad we didn't allow something like this to happen in Iraq...........
SPOKANE, Wash. - Former Mayor James E. West, recalled from office over an Internet sex scandal, died Saturday at a Seattle hospital of complications from recent cancer surgery. He was 55.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13985901/
Can't they just be rapturized now and be rid of them?
What makes you think that God wants to deal with these jerks.
Maybe they can be sucked into the center of the earth.
Maybe they can be sucked into the center of the earth.
AnotherBruce
black hole with a funnel cloud!
Can DNA tests be used to establish civilianality?
Ahem.
Was David Gelernter bonkers before the Unabomber letter bomb, or did that come after? His work on AI seemed pretty sane in the early 90s, but he may have been in L*l*ks territory even then.
Maybe they can be sucked into the center of the earth.
I dunno. The turtles are packed pretty tightly in the core.
have we had some of those internet sex scandals here?
there is no gravity
the earth sucks.
GWPDA: I just sponsored Teddy--whatta gorgeous dog. If I wasn't owned by two cats, I'd come and get him.
Maybe they can be sucked into the center of the earth.
I dunno. The turtles are packed pretty tightly in the core.
masculine_monica_nyc
I'm going to have the petting zoo metaphor dept look into this issue thank you
You cannot convince people who are sure that Israel has the right to kill anyone, anywhere if they are threatened. Suggest that Israel is wrong and immediately you are anti-Semitic.
Being anti-Muslim, anti-Arab on the other hand is perfectly all right. A bigot is a bigot and considering the deaths of the innocent in Lebanon all right while mourning the deaths in Israel takes some real corkscrew thinking.
"the continuum of civilianality."
I'm waiting for Dershowitz's final solution for the civilian problem.
It's not an invasion, it's an "invasion."
They're just stocking up on duty-frees.
It's long past time that anyone who is interested in the truth pays attention to anything he has to say about anything to do with the middle east.
I realized a long time ago that Dershowitz is a shameless self-promoter in the same vein as Geraldo Rivera and Dennis Miller.
Continuum of civilianality?
Bullshit artist doesn't begin to describe this dipshit.
Donna Marie, you are a good woman!
and god said smite the first born of lebanon
time for cantaloupe and watermelon
You cannot convince people who are sure that Israel has the right to kill anyone, anywhere if they are threatened. Suggest that Israel is wrong and immediately you are anti-Semitic.
Replace "Israel" with "U.S." and "anti-Semitic" with "anti-American" and it's equally as true.
Ahem.
Oops. Second time's a charm.
I realized a long time ago that Dershowitz is a shameless self-promoter in the same vein as Geraldo Rivera and Dennis Miller.
Torture warrants!
I'm going to have the petting zoo metaphor dept look into this issue
You're a gentleman and a scholar.
The level of gloating that must now exist among Dershowitz, Kristol, Perle and their co-conspirators is unimaginable. They got exactly what they wanted since the formation of PNAC.
Israel in open warfare against Arabs, the US bogged in a sensless Mid East land war and US public opinion cheering them all on "fighting terrorism".
There will be retaliatory terrorist attacks against the US over these events. Then all hell will break loose on liberalism in America.
As George W Bush recently said..."just wait".
.
Evacuate the World Trade Center.
You've got 10 minutes.
I realized a long time ago that Dershowitz is a shameless self-promoter in the same vein as Geraldo Rivera and Dennis Miller.
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Well, yeah, but they don't the stamp of Harvard on them. Which makes dershowitz that much worse. There aren't that many people I have a strong visceral dislike of. In case you couldn't tell, he's one of them.
ShortRide sheets; game on owls.
You're a gentleman and a scholar.
masculine_monica_nyc
...we try...while unloading hay...here at the....zoo.... 
Evacuate the World Trade Center.
You've got 10 minutes.
Osama | 07.22.06 - 5:17 pm
bingo!
I realized a long time ago that Dershowitz is a shameless self-promoter in the same vein as Geraldo Rivera and Dennis Miller.
Hey, don't look at me. My career went straight down the crapper for this guy.
What do I think now?
.... Well, I gotta mortgage and kids to feed and clothe...
Alright. Bush is a fucking idiot!
Now who do I gotta blow to get some work?
You've got 10 minutes.
Osama | 07.22.06 - 5:17 pm
bingo!
WoodyGuthrie'sSnowflakinho
With this announcement all North Atlantic shipping is now hereby warned.
The Kaiser
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Oops. Second time's a charm.
No worries, doll. I was just being a prick, as usual!
you cannot convince people who are sure that Israel has the right to kill anyone, anywhere if they are threatened. Suggest that Israel is wrong and immediately you are anti-Semitic.
Being anti-Muslim, anti-Arab on the other hand is perfectly all right. A bigot is a bigot and considering the deaths of the innocent in Lebanon all right while mourning the deaths in Israel takes some real corkscrew thinking.
With this announcement all North Atlantic shipping is now hereby warned.
The Kaiser
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Agent Orange | 07.22.06 - 5:22 pm | #
And while we're at it, give them villagers a running start outta My Lai.
Well, yeah, but they don't the stamp of Harvard on them. Which makes dershowitz that much worse. There aren't that many people I have a strong visceral dislike of. In case you couldn't tell, he's one of them.
I must not respect Harvard as much as you do... As a matter of fact, I have been screwed so many times by the Harvard MBA that my ass bleeds, figuratively.
Harvard MBA's are the bane of the business world.
from today's globe:
ROBERT KUTTNER
US blunders roil the Mideast
And contain is the right word. During the ``long twilight struggle" as John Kennedy called the Cold War, the Soviet Union was even more of a threat. The Soviets really did have nuclear weapons, by the thousands. There were some in the United States who wanted to have it out, in World War III. Miraculously, they never attained power. Containment worked, communism fell. When pragmatists governed, we even managed to constructively engage the baddest of the bad, Red China, now our ally in containing North Korea, our prime supplier of Wal-Mart and biggest creditor.
But today, the ideological heirs to that lunatic fringe are running the American government. Every arrogant miscalculation only leads them to more disastrous blunders.
Had Bush used diplomacy to isolate Saddam and to improve relations with Iran and Syria, had he worked as Bill Clinton did for a reduction of violence and a true peace process between Israelis and Palestinians, radical Islam would have far less appeal, the United States would have more influence in the world, and Israel would be more secure. But you can't undo history, and the mess Bush made will haunt his successors for decades.
With a mid-term election looming and the Mideast in flames, will voters finally recognize that this crowd is delusionally incompetent? Or will cynical fear-mongering lead anxious citizens yet again to rally 'round their president?
wonder how many actually feel free to critisize israel? the media seems so cowed by the zionist lobby, we may not find out what is actually going down....
A new verb: Dershowitz: to legalize what is blatently illegal, as in "Rumsfeld and his ilk needed to Dershowitz the torture of suspected terrorists."
Seconded! And let's combine it w/ Santorum: "Dershorum: The warm, wet trail of lube and deceit trailed by sleazy international defense lawyers."
Dershowitz should be required to register as the agent of a foreign government. He is no civilian.
On the other hand, the only civilians in Isreal are either children or the elderly (who may have served in the military in the past). All citizens of Isreal are required to put in military service.
Given the offical support of our leadership, the underwriting and military supplying of Israel's aggressive actions, we are all complicit.
From the Freeper link above, a lot of them make an upside-down kind of sense. Here's one fellow explaining why lefty Jews don't support Israel as much as fundies do:
...a lot of religious conservatives support Israel in order to confirm their beliefs. I think lefties' lack of support is due to their leftism. They don't fear God. They fear strong, right wing governments.
My sentiments exactly
I presume dershowitz is on his way to southern lebanon as we speak,
in order to explain to all the lebanese who have more important things
to worry about than coining snazzy new neo-con catch phrases
If that's the case then we should charge those that stayed in New Orleans as "hurricanists" in the war against hurricanism.
I just looked up the definition of terrorism according to the US Defense Department. "Terrorism is
defined by the US Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."
Isn't this precisely what the stated policy of the Israeli government (with US assistance and support)is?
Intentionally targeting civilians in an effort to bring about political change in Lebanon is state sponsored terrorism pure and simple.
Am I missing something?
This isn't really anything new. They tried to shift the blame to the Katrina victims after all.
all violence all the time is what all extremists want.
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bush = death
bush = death
bush = death
I guess in the Dershowitz mind, all those folks left to die in Katrina were complicit "terrorists" too.
How can someone think, let alone publicly say "innocent victims"..too bad, your death is acceptable.
Maybe founding countries based on people's ethnicity is a bad idea. Just a thought. It doesn't seem to work very well in practice.
Prior to Dershowitz adopting it I believe this was the OBL doctrine. Get out of Saudi Arabia or the civilians in the twin towers will be considered evil infidel sympathizers and will be killed accordingly.
May I suggest the US may want to adopt this doctrine for the entire Middle East oil fields. Anyone living anywhere near our oil will be considered a terrorist and at war with the US.
What if we order the people in the house blocking our view of the water to get out or we will not be responsible for their death when we burn down their house.
You could spin this on into yarn.
Dershowitz is a scumbag.
Antarctica is ripe for the taking
someone tell Bush
Welcome to DOOM: 2006. Kill with extreme prejudice.
God help us all.
Bush on Bush
explaining his "life principle"
of course the same argument could be made in any territorial dispute. You're there so therefore I get to kill you.
dershowitz makes me weep for my people.
Death to Hezballah and f**k Usama too. Stupid rich asshole. There, I said it.
So who's this Dershowitz guy anyway?
Ku Su Muk
Get another arab to translate.
What's shocking is not Dersh's notions which have been widely used since the days of the cavemen but that America naively thought these rules didn't apply to it when 9/11 came.
Any country who perpetrated Nasgasaki and created Pinochet is far from having settled its karmic bill.
All those children massacred by the Israeli in the past ten days are not really civilians. They are inflatable dolls planted by the Hezbollah to make Israel look bad. And even if they were real children, it is their fault that they are dead for not getting out of the way of the Israeli missiles. They would probably grow up to be terrorists, anyway.
Alan Dershowitz, supporter of torture and ethnic cleansing. And I thought Abu Gonzales was bad...
Theres a difference between collateral damage and deliberately targeting civilians.
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