And have you seen Simels, M31?
Elisha Cuthbert |
08.11.06 - 10:54 pm | #
What is it with these wankers supporting Lieberman? He lost. He isn't a Democrat any more. Let him go off to collect his Fox News and lobbying fees and leave us alone.
M31 |
08.11.06 - 10:54 pm | #
CRAWFORD, Texas - The Republican Party's big spenders were rewarded with a barbecue lunch with President Bush on Friday at a $750,000 fundraiser at a ranch neighboring the president's Texas home.
The fundraiser was closed to the public and the press, but the Republican National Committee reported that the attendees included 350 people who have each raised at least $15,000 for the party this cycle.
The lunch was at Stan and Kathy Hickey's Broken Spoke Ranch, a 478-acre spread next to the president's home where Bush is spending 10 days on vacation from the White House. Bush addressed to group after an introduction by RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman.
Plum P |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 10:59 pm | #
1st of many. Good on ya, Bob
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 10:59 pm | #
Well, fuck me.
I just wanted to collectively thank all y'all, in the thread below, and then... sheets!
$5000+ is what y'all have contributed in the past year. I'm amazed and humbled, and, I thank you.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.11.06 - 11:00 pm | #
I was surprised that Kerrey is being such a fucking moron. I mean, what the fuck. He's president of the New School, the place where Jean Rohe ripped McCain a new one.
Bob Kerrey is a disgrace to democrats.
puppethead |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:01 pm | #
I've led the Senate on issues like national security the creation of the 9/11 commission; efforts to stop global warming; protect social security and find cures for diseases like cancer and diabetes.
Jebuz, I guess he created the internets, too. Landed on the moon. Discovered penicillin.
Sorry, Joe. You don't make the rules. There's only one round and you LOST it, motherfucker.
Get over it.
Kerrey, you're on my list. Lamont should go get that chick who embarassed you and McCain so badly that you had a rash for weeks.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed |
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08.11.06 - 11:01 pm | #
Simels? Next time you see him, tell him that 1+1+1+1=4. 1+1+1+1=4. 4+4=8. (The years of GWB as POTUS). 1+1=2. 2. The number of times GWB beat the losing defeatists you loons ran against him.
Wycliffe |
08.11.06 - 11:01 pm | #
1st of many. Good on ya, Bob
dipshit |
Many? Hardly!
And Kerrey is SO irrelevant.
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:02 pm | #
Knock knock
Who's there?
Madam
Madam who?
Open the damned door, my foot is stuck.
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:02 pm | #
There is this, however: given the notoriously short attention span of us Americans, most people will not remember who Bob Kerrey even is.
Diane |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:02 pm | #
Joe can't get current Senators to back him, so he unearths Kerrey.
Does he really want to add Kerrey to his support for this war? I mean, he will certainly be able to make Holy Joe familiar with killing civilians.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:03 pm | #
Bob Kerrey ..if he campaigns for HOJO the same way he campaigned for Kerry no problema for Lamont.
What a load of pretentious bullshit he is.
liars for bush |
08.11.06 - 11:03 pm | #
Bob Kerrey:
Debra Winger's biggest folly.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:03 pm | #
Knock knock
Who's there?
Madam
Madam who?
Open the damned door, madam foot is stuck.
(Damn! Blowing the punchline! Must be time for bed)
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:03 pm | #
1st of many. Good on ya, Bob
But you hate Bob Kerrey, dipshit.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:04 pm | #
No wonder Kerrey and LieberWHORE like each other so much.
Since they turned on their own president during that impeachment bullshit.
I'm paramount in my reluctance to trash a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor. I probably never will. Though Bob Kerrey often confuses the fuck out of me.
Max Planck |
08.11.06 - 11:05 pm | #
Evening, all.
I see even in a new short thread we already have something of a Trollapalooza going.
Toonscribe, new & employed |
08.11.06 - 11:05 pm | #
Does he really want to add Kerrey to his support for this war? I mean, he will certainly be able to make Holy Joe familiar with killing civilians.
Snow, Sublimest
War Criminals for Lieberman
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:05 pm | #
I see even in a new short thread we already have something of a Trollapalooza going.
Toonscribe, new & employed |
Loserman's loss has made them especially stupid.
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:07 pm | #
:::Though many in the audience - including Senator McCain and I - were offended by the heckling, at no time were we in danger of not being able to proceed.:::
I'm not ready to make nice.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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08.11.06 - 11:07 pm | #
How many people even remember who the hell Bob Kerrey is at this point?
Well...you, for one...and everyone else here bitching about Kerrey, for that matter....for starters.
I'll do a poll and get back with you on the rest of the country.
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:07 pm | #
I'm paramount in my reluctance to trash a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor.
His conduct that evening was certainly honorable. The night before, not so much.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:07 pm | #
Simels? Next time you see him, tell him that 1+1+1+1=4
Yeah, but you said it was 6, you fucking retard.
Thers |
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08.11.06 - 11:07 pm | #
Okay, I'm going off topic:
PERSEIDS (maximum August 12, 23h UT [4pm PDT; 7pm EDT])
Moon: Waning Gibbous (major interference)
Best viewing window: Saturday evening, August 12, from the end of evening twilight through Sunday morning, August 13.
Recommended for: Anyone interested in meteors; just remember that the Moon will detract from the show.
The Perseids are probably the most-watched annual meteor shower. The shower has a very long duration, from about July 15 through August 25. The shower is most interesting around its peak on August 12 or 13. This year, the waning gibbous Moon will be a big nuisance, riding high in the sky during the morning hours when the Perseid radiant is high. In addition, the shower's normal peak will occur during daylight for North American observers. The radiant is above the horizon the entire night for observers north of latitude 32N, but it is fairly low at the end of evening twilight. Evening Perseid rates are low, then, but there are usually enough meteors to be interesting. The Moon is also low in the evening this year, and hopefully rates will not have fallen too far from their peak. East Coast observers will be favored this year. Serious observers will watch all night long, and deal with the Moon as best they can. Face the darkest part of your local sky, and if the Moon is in your field of view try to block it with some sort of obstruction.
Rates for most observers will probably top out at around 15-30 Perseids per hour, with a few sporadic and minor shower meteors added to the mix. Die-hard observers may be watching on adjacent nights; unfortunately, there are no Moon-free periods this year.
Perseids are fast meteors and tend to be fairly bright on average. An occasional fireball is seen, but these seem to depend on the luck of the draw.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:07 pm | #
I wanna post my kitty pics again
Zoe the Squirrel Cat
At least lieberman isn't guilty of mass murder...well, not hands on mass murder. Not surprising for a war criminal to support a bloodthirsty little war porn lover like lieberman.
We all remember how kerrey spent eight years trying to submarine clinton, purely out of spite for losing to him in the 92 primaries. We may all cringe at the thought of ben nelson, but kerrey was worse...a vindictive, grandstanding prick, but a media fave (how else do you explain his getting a pass after details surfaced on his cowardly massacre of innocent vietnamese).
Don't forget, kerrey kept sticking the shiv in clinton's back for eight years, right up to the russian tea room episode.
itradedsosa |
08.11.06 - 11:08 pm | #
How many people even remember who the hell Bob Kerrey is at this point?
I seem to remember that Linda Ronstadt chewed off part of his leg.
-Liddy Dole
bebe rebozo |
08.11.06 - 11:08 pm | #
Only the good die young
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
An american hero and he's dead.
And Joe "I marched with Martin" Lieberman is still around.
I seem to remember that Linda Ronstadt chewed off part of his leg.
-Liddy Dole
That was just...wrong.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:09 pm | #
Joe can't get current Senators to back him, so he unearths Kerrey.
Who's next? Zell Miller?
I'll take that bet.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.11.06 - 11:09 pm | #
Oh my. Amy Klobuchar has an interesting case. Some robbers broke into an apartment with a gun, which turned out to be fake. The victims used a sword to defend themselves, seriously wounding the perpetrators.
puppethead |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:09 pm | #
But you hate Bob Kerrey, dipshit.
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.11.06 - 11:04 pm |
...and your point is?.......
Actually, it makes it all the sweeter.
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:09 pm | #
I'll take that bet.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque
And I'll challenge you to a mother fucking DUEL on a mother fucking plane, beyotch!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:10 pm | #
We all remember how kerrey spent eight years trying to submarine clinton, purely out of spite for losing to him in the 92 primaries.
The main reason I hate Kerrey.
And Loserman!
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:10 pm | #
My point is that you hate everyone. Why do you hate so much? It can't be good for you.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:10 pm | #
Well...you, for one...and everyone else here bitching about Kerrey, for that matter....for starters.
Well, that's twenty of us.
And we're completely representative of the electorate as a whole.
flory |
08.11.06 - 11:10 pm | #
i see joe isn't pointing to the cover he provide bush/cheney on enron, when he refused to subpoena them. wish somebody would call him out on that one.
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:11 pm | #
Nipplebacon.
Reminds me -- I had a couple of BLT sandwiches for dinner tonight. The bacon was cooked to perfection and the tomatoes were homegrown.
Good eats.
Toonscribe, new & employed |
08.11.06 - 11:12 pm | #
I'll do a poll and get back with you on the rest of the country.
dipshit
Gonna poll everyone in your trailer park?
Tinker Toy |
08.11.06 - 11:12 pm | #
I'm a little slow, I admit, but I just figured out that all of this by Mr. Lieberman is not about 2006, but 2008: he really must believe that he can parlay a win as an independent into a Democratic nomination for president.
Apparently he has convinced Mr. Kerrey of that as well.
How sad is that?
Diane |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:12 pm | #
I used to like Bob Kerrey. I don't remember why, but I did.
It's sad to see that he has either become a titanic wanker, or that he was all along, and I did not realize that.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:12 pm | #
Knock, knock
Who's there?
Ned Lamont
Oh, good. I have some more WalMart stock to sell you
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:12 pm | #
I'll take that bet.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque
And I'll challenge you to a mother fucking DUEL on a mother fucking plane, beyotch!
Just don't roll snake eyes on a plane. Snake eyes on a plane!!!!!!!
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.11.06 - 11:12 pm | #
There is this, however: given the notoriously short attention span of us Americans, most people will not remember who Bob Kerrey even is.
I'll give you a short attention span, from Billmon:
The bad news:
Some 30 percent of Americans cannot say in what year the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks against New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington took place, according to a poll published in the Washington Post newspaper.
The good news:
While the country is preparing to commemorate the fifth anniversary of the attacks that claimed nearly 3,000 lives and shocked the world, 95 percent of Americans questioned in the poll were able to remember the month and the day of the attacks. (emphasis added)
Neponset |
08.11.06 - 11:13 pm | #
Reminds me -- I had a couple of BLT sandwiches for dinner tonight. The bacon was cooked to perfection and the tomatoes were homegrown.
Good eats.
Toonscribe, new & employed
Sounds right tasty!
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:13 pm | #
it's spooky how establishment dems still support this war. it's hard not to suspect collusion.
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:13 pm | #
All Zell will break loose!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:13 pm | #
You only support Lieberman out of spite, dipshit. You actually hate him. You hate all democrats. You would like to torture, maim, and then kill all of us. Where does this hate come from? Were you abused as a child. Did you get beat up at school? Did the other kids pick on you?
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:14 pm | #
Knock, knock
Who's there?
Ned LaZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
dipshit |
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:14 pm | #
Toonscribe, we had that twice this week accompanied by some excellent fresh sweet corn: perfect summer dining.
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:14 pm | #
Toonscribe, we had that twice this week accompanied by some excellent fresh sweet corn: perfect summer dining.
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:14 pm | #
Well, that's twenty of us.
And we're completely representative of the electorate as a whole.
flory | 08.11.06 - 11:10 pm | #
[ahem}Psst:
That's why I said "for starters".
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:14 pm | #
I'll do a poll and get back with you on the rest of the country.
dipshit
Doesn't even merit a cameo on Project Runway as head of the school.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:14 pm | #
It's sad to see that he has either become a titanic wanker, or that he was all along, and I did not realize that.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
He got a pass from me for a long time. That Medal of Honor means something.
Then he turned into another sactimonious asshole over the Clenis™ and he's been dead to me ever since.
flory |
08.11.06 - 11:14 pm | #
he really must believe that he can parlay a win as an independent into a Democratic nomination for president.
Well, he apparently "led the Senate" in fighting cancer, exploring space, making children smile, and getting dogs to pee on the newspaper, so I'm sure that will be no challenge for him.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:15 pm | #
You hate all democrats. You would like to torture, maim, and then kill all of us.
Snow, Sublimest
He'd LIKE to, but that ain't gonna happen!
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:15 pm | #
I don't get Wal-mart stock and Lamont. What is wrong with business ownership?
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:16 pm | #
I'll do a poll and get back with you on the rest of the country.
dipshit
Doesn't even merit a cameo on Project Runway as head of the school.
Tom - 大肚腩
Gotta love how trolls think they are so important!
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:16 pm | #
Doesn't even merit a cameo on Project Runway as head of the school.
Tom - 大肚腩
Well, he apparently "led the Senate" in fighting cancer, exploring space, making children smile, and getting dogs to pee on the newspaper, so I'm sure that will be no challenge for him.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
(That really made me laugh.)
Diane |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
I know somebody has had to have said this already: GET OVER IT SORE LOSERMAN!
Ô¿Ô |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
Gotta love how trolls think they are so important!
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
We all remember how kerrey spent eight years trying to submarine clinton, purely out of spite for losing to him in the 92 primaries.
I didn't pick up that visceral animus from him during the 9/11 Commission questioning.
Max Planck |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
I thoroughly exect HoJo to make a speech on Nov. 9th saying, "Well, we're now in the third quarter and, it's true, Ned Lamont's technically ahead, if you consider having won the election "ahead." However Team Connecticut for Lieberman won't allow these results to stand. We're going to come back strong in the next quarter."
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
I thoroughly exect HoJo to make a speech on Nov. 9th saying, "Well, we're now in the third quarter and, it's true, Ned Lamont's technically ahead, if you consider having won the election "ahead." However Team Connecticut for Lieberman won't allow these results to stand. We're going to come back strong in the next quarter."
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
he really must believe that he can parlay a win as an independent into a Democratic nomination for president.
Lieberman will become president of the US the day George W Bush develops a conscience.
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
dipshit, where in the aristocratic hierarchy do you see yourself?
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
-Knock, knock
-Who's there?
-C'mon Ned, open up. it's me, Jane...Jane Hamsher
-Jane Hamsher..I don't know any Jane Hamsher
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
Whenever anyone takes opinion polls seriously I like to remind them of Michael Moore's TV Nation polls. People give the stupidest answers when asked questions.
12.5% of Americans that voted for Clinton believe that they will someday be told "just what Victoria's Secret is."
98% of Bush voters believe they will never know.
puppethead |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:18 pm | #
So the war criminal stumps for the warmonger.
R. McGeddon |
08.11.06 - 11:19 pm | #
Isn't it Kerrey's turn to be swiftboated? Or does supporting the Connecticut Wanker make him immune?
R. McGeddon |
08.11.06 - 11:20 pm | #
Word!
Tinker Toy | 08.11.06 - 11:18 pm
(sigh) NAME STEALER
Tinker Toy *! |
08.11.06 - 11:20 pm | #
accompanied by some excellent fresh sweet corn: perfect summer dining.
Yum. I loves me some fresh sweet corn. We've had that a few times this summer.
Toonscribe, new & employed |
08.11.06 - 11:21 pm | #
When God made dipshit, He replaced reason with more emotion.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:21 pm | #
Knock, knock
-Who's there?
-C'mon Ned, open up. it's me, Jane...Jane Hamsher
-Jane Hamsher..I don't know any Jane Hamsher
dipshit
Heh. All Zell HAS broken loose over the asshole Loserman. He's every bit as devisive as anything KKKarl Roveve could have come up with.
bigvic |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:21 pm | #
I didn't pick up that visceral animus from him during the 9/11 Commission questioning.
Max Planck
Watching his performance on the commission I did pick up a lack of deep thought from Kerrey. No wonder he's BFF with Lieberman. Add in fellow dimwit McCain and they can be the Three Stooges of Unity Politics.
puppethead |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:21 pm | #
Lieberman will become president of the US the day George W Bush develops a conscience.
Terry C, Outright Partisan
rePUKES can't develop a conscience!!!
Tinker Toy |
08.11.06 - 11:22 pm | #
I thoroughly exect HoJo to make a speech on Nov. 9th saying, "Well, we're now in the third quarter and, it's true, Ned Lamont's technically ahead, if you consider having won the election "ahead." However Team Connecticut for Lieberman won't allow these results to stand. We're going to come back strong in the next quarter."
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed |
Wasn't Nixon a great one for sports analogies on those tapes of his?
Terry C, Outright Partisan |
08.11.06 - 11:23 pm | #
'UNITY'
?
That's what they came up with for a campaign slogan?
'Unity???'
Isn't that a Rick James album?
I guess this means Joe can go around and say to himself "I'm Joe Lieberman bitch!"
Lieberman will become president of the US the day George W Bush develops a conscience.
Terry C, Outright Partisan
That's deep. Real deep.
Tinker Toy |
08.11.06 - 11:23 pm | #
rePUKES can't develop a conscience!!!
Tinker Toy
NAME STEALER
Tinker Toy *! |
08.11.06 - 11:23 pm | #
puppethead | Homepage | 08.11.06 - 11:18 pm |
The favorite, not stupid at all: a majority of Americans polled would if they could push a button that would make Larry King go away and never return.
yurk |
08.11.06 - 11:23 pm | #
So the war criminal stumps for the warmonger.
R. McGeddon
And on it goes. Why the late deceased Hugh Thompson didn't win a MOH for setting down his helo gunship between Lt. Calley's frenzied troops and innocent villagers, I don't know.
Max Planck |
08.11.06 - 11:24 pm | #
Isn't it Kerrey's turn to be swiftboated? Or does supporting the Connecticut Wanker make him immune?
R. McGeddon
I don't get Wal-mart stock and Lamont. What is wrong with business ownership?
Snow, Sublimest
Yer kiddin', right?
"We're all together today in wanting to wake up Wal-Mart and say, 'Treat your workers fairly,"' Lamont told several hundred people gathered outside in stifling heat. He later added, "It is time for the American people to get together to support Democrats who support working people."
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:24 pm | #
Shorter Joe: "If I dick around long enough with these GOP talking points,I'm sure I can convince 42% of CT voters to vote for me; Diebold will take care of the remainder."
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:25 pm | #
Bigger wanker.
sheRimsThePresident |
Condi? Is that YOU?
Terry C, Outright Partisan | |
08.11.06 - 11:25 pm | #
NAME STEALER
Tinker Toy *!
How do YOU know? Brain cells of a AMOEBA.
Tinker Toy |
08.11.06 - 11:25 pm | #
He's unstable and he's not even smart. Can't abide him, never could.
.
cs, art is bread |
08.11.06 - 11:25 pm | #
I thoroughly exect HoJo to make a speech on Nov. 9th saying, "Well, we're now in the third quarter and, it's true, Ned Lamont's technically ahead, if you consider having won the election "ahead." However Team Connecticut for Lieberman won't allow these results to stand. We're going to come back strong in the next quarter.
"It's just a flesh wound."
watertiger |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:25 pm | #
dipshit, where in the aristocratic hierarchy do you see yourself?
Snow, Sublimest
Sweeping up the horseshit behind the rich folks' polo ponies?
Terry C, Outright Partisan | |
08.11.06 - 11:26 pm | #
Yer kiddin', right?
You're going to have to expound upon this theory of yours. I'm a little dense. Before you begin, I should tell you that I own stock in companies that I also bad mouth. Seeing problems is a part of ownership.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:27 pm | #
"We're all together today in wanting to wake up Wal-Mart and say, 'Treat your workers fairly,"' Lamont told several hundred people gathered outside in stifling heat. He later added, "It is time for the American people to get together to support Democrats who support working people."
Yeah, if I were a greedy shareholder, I'd never contradict a company's policies!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:27 pm | #
"I approved this message because it's time for a new politics of unity and purpose. That's why I'm opposing the choice of the voters."
Rob |
08.11.06 - 11:27 pm | #
Before you begin, I should tell you that I own stock in companies that I also bad mouth. Seeing problems is a part of ownership.
Snow, Sublimest
George W JERK'S ownership society!
Tinker Toy |
08.11.06 - 11:28 pm | #
Seeing problems is a part of ownership.
Snow, Sublimest
Nicely said...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:28 pm | #
Okay - I'm outta here.
The namestealing is getting on my nerves.
Tinker Toy *! |
08.11.06 - 11:29 pm | #
Lieberman will become president of the US the day George W Bush develops a conscience.
Terry C,
Hahahahaha. I won't live till infinity and beyond. But check out Yahoo news and the AP reports of Bu$hCo diverting HLS bucks for chemical and plastic explosive testing machines at airports into other useless projects here.
bigvic |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:29 pm | #
The namestealing is getting on my nerves.
Tinker Toy *!
Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split yer fat ass...
Tinker Toy |
08.11.06 - 11:30 pm | #
Dammit. At dinner around 8 I was about to fall asleep in my scallops. Now I can't get to sleep at all. I'm glad this place is open late.
And fuck Bob Kerrey runnin'.
Virginia |
08.11.06 - 11:30 pm | #
Dammit. At dinner around 8 I was about to fall asleep in my scallops. Now I can't get to sleep at all. I'm glad this place is open late.
And fuck Bob Kerrey runnin'.
Virginia |
08.11.06 - 11:30 pm | #
it's just so unfair and disingenuous for joe to blame the dems for not being bipartisan enough when it's republicans who demand total submission.
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:31 pm | #
Why the late deceased Hugh Thompson didn't win a MOH for setting down his helo gunship between Lt. Calley's frenzied troops and innocent villagers, I don't know.
Max Planck
Because he wasn't supposed to save "those people", you know.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | |
08.11.06 - 11:31 pm | #
dipshit, where in the aristocratic hierarchy do you see yourself?
Mucking out the stalls and getting banged by the other stableboys.
watertiger |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:31 pm | #
Y'all realize you are arguing with someone who identifies himself as DIPSHIT?
Can't believe you all have missed the obvious - this is the beginning of a possible Bob Kerrey 3rd party campaign for president.
hopeless pedant |
08.11.06 - 11:32 pm | #
Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split yer fat ass...
Tinker Toy
Damn, I just saw in one of the storage sheds one of the largest infestations of black widow spiders I've ever seen. Fogging all of them right now. With my luck all this will do will give the spiders a nice buzz, and they'll start singing in the middle of the night.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.11.06 - 11:32 pm | #
can you imagine cheney badmouthing halliburton?
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Virginia: Dammit. At dinner around 8 I was about to fall asleep in my scallops. Now I can't get to sleep at all. I'm glad this place is open late.
We were just about to open the floor to sex talk, including the kind that makes the trollies run for da hills.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.11.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Yeppers. UnHoly Joe just spat in the face of Democrats and told them their votes for a primary candidate don't matter. How very ReThug of him.
bigvic |
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08.11.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Mucking out the stalls and getting banged by the other stableboys.
All of a sudden I'm thinking of D.H. Lawrence novels.
Toonscribe, new & employed |
08.11.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Little known trivia nugget --
Back in their Senate days, Lieberman and Kerrey used to be lovers. Kerrey is apparently an aficionado of something called "jowl frottage." Liddy Dole used to bring the hamsters & Miracle Whip to their get-togethers.
Thers |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:33 pm | #
and they'll start singing in the middle of the night. in a voice no unlike that of Mel Torme . . . .
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Word!!
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.11.06 - 11:32 pm
Oh, great - now, it's namestealing ME.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | |
08.11.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Our enemies want a fight, so here’s a novel suggestion. Let’s not oblige. Let’s keep our tanks and helicopters and cluster bombs locked within our armouries; let’s keep listening and watching and arresting and bringing to court; let’s keep our liberties and accord them theirs; and let’s carry on treating these people for what they are: a big, bloody nuisance.
P O'Neill |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:34 pm | #
On Anderson Cooper, they are saying a message intercepted on someone's cellphone said, "do your attacks now."
*sigh*
Did no one else live through the cold war? Do your attacks now? That's the secret trigger? Jesus christ, do they honestly expect anyone to believe this? We're not only lied to, we're lied to by morons, and what's worse is this is hardy the first time. Excuse me, I've got to buy more duct tape.
yurk |
08.11.06 - 11:34 pm | #
Quite a awhile back on a thread where the Oil Cos were getting bashed someone, not a reg, suggested; go ahead and bash but take avantage and buy some stock.
Claimed his Dad was able to retire because he took that advise years ago.
Melissa has a bit of Valero thru previous employment.
I for one welcome a 3rd-party presidential run by anyone. That'll be a place for disaffected republican voters to go. Splitting the republican vote will be a good thing.
puppethead |
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08.11.06 - 11:34 pm | #
Back in their Senate days, Lieberman and Kerrey used to be lovers. Kerrey is apparently an aficionado of something called "jowl frottage." Liddy Dole used to bring the hamsters & Miracle Whip to their get-togethers.
Thers
Did they invite Liddy and Strom?
Terry C, Commie Pinko Librul |
08.11.06 - 11:34 pm | #
Worse than singing. I just heard that the black widows spiders just endorsed Liberman (Independent) for US Senate.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.11.06 - 11:34 pm | #
Yer kiddin', right?
You're going to have to expound upon this theory of yours. I'm a little dense. Before you begin, I should tell you that I own stock in companies that I also bad mouth. Seeing problems is a part of ownership.
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.11.06 - 11:27 pm |
Yer NOT kiddin'. Scary...
"Lamont was quick to criticize Lieberman when they thought he had taken a $1,000 contribution from Wal-Mart's PAC (a charge that turned out to be false)."
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:35 pm | #
Scary bloggers!
That guy on the left looks rabid.
flory |
08.11.06 - 11:35 pm | #
Back in their Senate days, Lieberman and Kerrey used to be lovers. Kerrey is apparently an aficionado of something called "jowl frottage." Liddy Dole used to bring the hamsters & Miracle Whip to their get-togethers.
Thers
OK, now I am officially out of paper towels...but at least my monitor is clean.
Diane |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:36 pm | #
I've got to buy more duct tape.
Home Depot has homeland security specials on this till Sunday.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.11.06 - 11:36 pm | #
We were just about to open the floor to sex talk, including the kind that makes the trollies run for da hills.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Jesus christ, do they honestly expect anyone to believe this? We're not only lied to, we're lied to by morons, and what's worse is this is hardy the first time.
Word! That's why it hurts so much. The biggest morons in America are leading the sheeple into disaster.
bigvic |
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08.11.06 - 11:38 pm | #
Expound means to do more than repeat un-sourced blind statements. Flesh it out, develop it into a explanatory thesis. Surely you're not calling Lamont a hypocrite after admitting that you are just engaging in schadenfreude?
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:38 pm | #
Owning stock is the exact same thing as a campaign contribution.
Thers |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:39 pm | #
-Knock, knock
-Who's there?
-Ned, Ned...it's me, your broker. Man, you're making a killing on all that Halliburton stock you own, on account of all their contracts in Iraq and all. Hey...wait a minute...I thought you were against the war. Didn't you run on an anti-war platform. Isn't that hypocrisy?
-Shhh...not so loud
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:39 pm | #
"Let’s keep our liberties and accord them theirs."
Works for me.
Terry C, Commie Pinko Librul |
08.11.06 - 11:39 pm | #
I for one welcome a 3rd-party presidential run by anyone. That'll be a place for disaffected republican voters to go. Splitting the republican vote will be a good thing.
puppethead
Support the Constitution Party. It's the true home for the willfully stupid dipshits of America that voted for Dear Leader.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:39 pm | #
Knock-knock.
(Lieberman sulking in his room Who's there?
Dodd.
Dodd who?
Doddering on the brink.
R. McGeddon |
08.11.06 - 11:39 pm | #
Knock-knock.
(Lieberman sulking in his room) Who's there?
Bill.
Bill who?
Bildungsroman of wankerdom.
R. McGeddon |
08.11.06 - 11:40 pm | #
Why does it have such a case on Lieberman?
Terry C, Commie Pinko Librul |
08.11.06 - 11:40 pm | #
Knock-knock.
(Lieberman sulking in his room Who's there?
Hillary.
Hillary who?
Hillary beat you in November the way he did last Tuesday.
R. McGeddon |
08.11.06 - 11:41 pm | #
Knock-knock.
(Lieberman sulking in his room) Who's there?
Kerrey.
Kerrey who?
Kerrey me back to ol' Virginie.
R. McGeddon |
08.11.06 - 11:41 pm | #
Terry C: Why does it have such a case on Lieberman?
He and Lieberman were suck buddies back in the 1940s.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:42 pm | #
Why does it have such a case on Lieberman?
Terry C, Commie Pinko Librul
So now it is onto the made up allegations, dipshit? Or do you have substantiated evidence that Lamont owns stock in Halliburton?
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:42 pm | #
Well, I must retire for the evening.
Let the namestealer talk to itself all it wants.
Terry C, Commie Pinko Librul |
08.11.06 - 11:42 pm | #
Expound means to do more than repeat un-sourced blind statements. Flesh it out, develop it into a explanatory thesis. Surely you're not calling Lamont a hypocrite after admitting that you are just engaging in schadenfreude?
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.11.06 - 11:38 pm |
Obtuse??...much??
Ummm...BTW...when did I admit I was engaging in schadenfraude?
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:42 pm | #
the reason i asked about "proletariat" was because thom hartmann said he passed away. he was member of his chat room. cited his blog but i didn't catch the name. wondered if it was one i used to read.
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:43 pm | #
'night, Terry. I guess I missed Hecate, but g'night to you too, lady.
Virginia |
08.11.06 - 11:43 pm | #
Let the namestealer talk to itself all it wants.
Terry C, Commie Pinko Librul |
(three different eyedrops every four waking hours. Do you know how tired I am of leaning my head back and coughing?)
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:43 pm | #
No, not more Curly!?!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:44 pm | #
Jeffraham Prestonian, how is that new wireless card?
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.11.06 - 11:45 pm | #
Well, I stated that you hated Kerrey and you admitted as much and said that made it sweeter.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:45 pm | #
We got yer security *hangin*
- While the British terror suspects were hatching their plot, the Bush administration was quietly seeking permission to divert $6 million that was supposed to be spent this year developing new homeland explosives detection technology.
Congressional leaders rejected the idea, the latest in a series of steps by the
Homeland Security Department that has left lawmakers and some of the department's own experts questioning the commitment to create better anti-terror technologies.
Homeland Security's research arm, called the Sciences & Technology Directorate, is a "rudderless ship without a clear way to get back on course," Republican and Democratic senators on the Appropriations Committee declared recently.
"The committee is extremely disappointed with the manner in which S&T is being managed within the Department of Homeland Security," the panel wrote June 29 in a bipartisan report accompanying the agency's 2007 budget. Read the rest here
bigvic |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:46 pm | #
Did Terry C go to bed? Awe, shucks.
Tinker Toy |
08.11.06 - 11:46 pm | #
Doug: Jeffraham Prestonian, how is that new wireless card?
I know not of which thou speakest.
I've got an antenna on order, though.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:46 pm | #
firedoglake acknowledged lamont owned halliburton. but also noted lieberman, who tried to beat up lamont for it, also owned stock in halliburton.
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:47 pm | #
Do you know how tired I am of leaning my head back and coughing?)
DWD - Calling Bullshit!
Is it worse than turning your head and coughing?
Virginia |
08.11.06 - 11:47 pm | #
So now it is onto the made up allegations, dipshit? Or do you have substantiated evidence that Lamont owns stock in Halliburton?
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.11.06 - 11:42 pm | #
Sure I do...and look, Lamont lied about that, too.
Here's the link, followed by an excerpt. Need anything else, Snow, Slimiest?
"Lieberman's campaign continued to accuse Lamont of misleading the media about whether he holds between $15,000 and $50,000 direct stock in Halliburton, the Texas-based oil services conglomerate once led by Vice President Dick Cheney.
"Ned Lamont's willingness to mislead the public about the fact that he owns tens of thousands of dollars in Halliburton stock is troubling," Steinfels said.
Lamont said earlier this month that the stock was part of a mutual fund, but his campaign later corrected the statement and said it was part of a managed stock account."
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:48 pm | #
No, not more Curly!?!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
He's such a purty kitty!
Virginia |
08.11.06 - 11:48 pm | #
the lamont camp argued his stock was picked by the company managing his portfolio, not lamont himself.
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:49 pm | #
An explanation as to why that matters would be nice, thank you.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:50 pm | #
how is that new wireless card?
I know not of which thou speakest.
JP, I thought you got a new wifi card.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.11.06 - 11:50 pm | #
Good evening.
If there's time left for a Wanker of the Day, it has to be Chuck Roberts of Headline News.
Carry on...and tell me if linky don't work.
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:50 pm | #
So what's happenning, Happening peeps?!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:50 pm | #
Joe can't get current Senators to back him, so he unearths Kerrey.
Who's next? Zell Miller?
I figure it will be Daniel Webster.
Joe D. |
08.11.06 - 11:51 pm | #
Well, I stated that you hated Kerrey and you admitted as much and said that made it sweeter.
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.11.06 - 11:45 pm |
Actually, I was acknowledging appreciation for Kerrey supporting Lieberman. You may want to look up what "schadenfaude" means. I don't think it means what you think it does.
dipshit |
08.11.06 - 11:51 pm | #
Doug: JP, I thought you got a new wifi card.
Nope. Ordering an antenna for my old one, though.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:51 pm | #
linky no worky
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.11.06 - 11:52 pm | #
In the tree? Yeppers.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:52 pm | #
They both dig war crimes.
patriotboy |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:53 pm | #
firedoglake acknowledged lamont owned halliburton. but also noted lieberman, who tried to beat up lamont for it, also owned stock in halliburton.
jello
Hahahaha. Jeepers H. Christmas! Big Dick IS Halliburton and the thugs don't give a shit about all the no-bid gubmit contracts they get despite proven taxpayer ripoffs or that big dick is still being paid by them. What wankery.
bigvic |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:53 pm | #
the lamont camp argued his stock was picked by the company managing his portfolio, not lamont himself.
jello | 08.11.06 - 11:49 pm |
How are you, sweet pea?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:54 pm | #
By backing Lieberman, Kerrey gets to go on all the chat shows and show his mug. That's called a comeback, in showbiz terms.
Ghost Image |
08.11.06 - 11:54 pm | #
i know. i almost puked when i found out backstabber joe owned halliburton. that explained so much.
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:54 pm | #
Zap -- what a dick. Since WGG isn't around I'll call him a shitwhistle for good measure.
But you hate Lieberman, too. So you don't really care about who supports him. You are just enjoying what others tell you is the end of the Democratic Party. So, I believe I am using the word correctly so I shall decline your invitation to look it up.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:54 pm | #
I figure it will be Daniel Webster.
Preston Brooks with a cane.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.11.06 - 11:55 pm | #
speaking of which, how much warmonger stock does kerrey own?
jello |
08.11.06 - 11:55 pm | #
Doug's here!
Doug, I've missed you! I hope your travels were safe and that you're settling in now!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:55 pm | #
At least we can all be thankful that Tucker Carlson will be on "Dancing with the Stars".
I wonder what star he will dance with.
cheney_usa |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:57 pm | #
British security officials to US -- Shut the fuck up.
P O'Neill |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:57 pm | #
Hiya, right back at you, Virginia!!!
How goes the battle?
I know I may sound redundant, but I really do miss posting and *seeing* people here during the day.
Bums me out a bit. But such is life. It isn't fair, and neither are workplaces....
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:57 pm | #
Sucks.
Zap Rowsdower
Shit. Sorry to hear about it.
Virginia |
08.11.06 - 11:58 pm | #
They both dig war crimes.
patriotboy
Of whom do you speak, sir? Big Dick and Bu$h come to mind, of course.
bigvic |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:58 pm | #
DJ: No one else is more truly named on this board.
All the more reason to pull up a chair, have a beer with us, and ignore the inconsequentil idiot at the next table.
Btw, loved your work on Roseanne.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.11.06 - 11:58 pm | #
I most certainly am not. Em and I aren't talking right now. Nah. Ganna. Geh. Intah. It.
Awwwhhhh.
{{{{{hugs.}}}}}
You need a little "Power of Two," Zap...
put some Amy and Emily on the CD, and start a conversation...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:58 pm | #
I most certainly am not. Em and I aren't talking right now. Nah. Ganna. Geh. Intah. It.
Awwwhhhh.
{{{{{hugs.}}}}}
You need a little "Power of Two," Zap...
put some Amy and Emily on the CD, and start a conversation...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.11.06 - 11:58 pm | #
Lieberman and Bob Kerry both dig war crimes. Bob Kerry admitted to committing some a few years back.
I organized for Bob in '92. I regret it.
patriotboy |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:00 am | #
"Simels? Next time you see him, tell him that 1+1+1+1=4. 1+1+1+1=4. 4+4=8. (The years of GWB as POTUS). 1+1=2. 2. The number of times GWB beat the losing defeatists you loons ran against him." --Wycliffe
"Yeah, but you said it was 6, you fucking retard." --Thers
Did they have a different kerfluffle about numbers than this one?
"Hey simels, illegal (WRONG), immoral (WRONG), unnecessary (WRONG) wars that we lost (RIGHT ON NAM, The Lunatic left is responsible for that). Not bad for you, 1 out of 6." --Wycliffe | 08.11.06 - 5:01 pm
Wycliffe should persist until he gets justice.
Big Elf |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:00 am | #
I know I may sound redundant, but I really do miss posting and *seeing* people here during the day.
It spooked me the other day when the person from the cable company I was on the phone told me what was on my computer screen. Shocking I tell you. Or spooky I should say.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:01 am | #
British security officials to US -- Shut the fuck up.
P O'Neill
As if! It's the only thing they've got.
Virginia |
08.12.06 - 12:01 am | #
Shit. Sorry to hear about it.
I believe that the French say C'est la vie; which roughly translates into "planning a wedding is teh fucking hard".
But, I took German in HS; so what do I know?
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:01 am | #
LOLOLOL
"Defeat"ocrats!
I just got that one.
Sorry. Carry on.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:02 am | #
Vicki, the moving van is arriving tomorrow morning so I'll be slaving away for awhile. I don't think the moving contract includes unpacking though it did include the packing that I didn't want to do my self. I found a huge collection of black widow spiders in one of the storage sheds I'm planning on using for the boxes that overflow what space I have here, so I'm fumigating the sheds right now. My yard is pretty nice. Some of the plants that really are not adapted so well to the desert have died due to lack of care, but that's all right. I'm planning on just doing desert landscaping except for a couple of citrus trees anyway. Those are all right, they were on an automatic drip system. I like the Ocatillo (sp?) bushes, I've got growing in my front yard. The heat has been bad here, but it also was so in Montana. At least I don't have to breath the terpine smoke from the forest fires. My lungs are already happier. I'm far enough out in the desert to have cooler weather in the evenings. It's already cooled off to the 70s by now.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:03 am | #
British security officials to US -- Shut the fuck up.
They also delayed telling the US the details as long as possible because of this Administration's track record of prematurely blowing terrorist investigations for political gain.
And they are so desperate that they are trying to get credit for prevention of a potential terrorist attack by the very tactics (diligent law enforcement) that they sneer at.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:03 am | #
Sorry. Carry on.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
I thought you were going to bed to make passionate love to my sister?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:04 am | #
Bob "Will Never Be President" Kerrey?
Who cares?
He wants a cabinet position in the Lieberman White House. Sad, really.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:04 am | #
OK, let me get this straight, Bob Kerrey, a certified and admitted war criminal, is now backing the fuckwad who supports the current crimes against humanity? Is that right?
Fuck 'em both.
Hard.
With a rusty chainsaw.
Running full throttle.
angryspittle |
08.12.06 - 12:04 am | #
I most certainly am not. Em and I aren't talking right now. Nah. Ganna. Geh. Intah. It.
Welp, that's about all the holding-the-notebook-at arm's-length-towards-the-window I can take for one night. Tomorrow, batses!
♥
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:05 am | #
Tanks, Vicki...but neither of us like the girls Indigo (don't hit me).
It's family stuff right now. I love her to bits; but you can only see each other 18 hours a day so often.
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:05 am | #
Bob Kerry admitted to committing some[war crimes] a few years back.
Indeed he did. I don't get his wishy-washy stance on the Bu$h admin's complete FUBAR in all things military. He ought to know better.
bigvic |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:06 am | #
Kerrey belongs in a jail cell -not on the campaign trail. Every time that motherfucking child killer appears in public, someone should shout:
Arizona is a lovely state...I love the west and the Rockies, though, so I'm probably not terribly objective.
I hope the moving transition goes nicely. Glad you're killing the black widows...
Right now, it is 59 degrees here. I dare say we've had one of the most beautiful nights of the year. The 100+ weather was horrifying - Michigan, because of the microcosm with the lakes, is very humid in the Summer.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:07 am | #
Though, Em gets credit (and a "bingo") for this.
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:08 am | #
I thought you were going to bed to make passionate love to my sister?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
but neither of us like the girls Indigo (don't hit me).
Oh, my bad...I thought you did like my beloved wymyn. Maybe that was dirk gently.
Well, let me change that up, then...put on some thoughtful music that means something to you, sit down, and stroke her hair gently...
Or, based on the 18 hours a day, separation in other rooms for a bit may be just what you need...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:08 am | #
I thought you were going to bed to make passionate love to my sister?
Ah, the vicarious life we live.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:09 am | #
"I thought you were going to bed to make passionate love to my sister?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore"
Ma'am, I am unwed. And as such, I am pure as the driven snow, and as chaste as...as a very chaste person.
I will thank you for not making any such intimations to the contrary in the future.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:09 am | #
But you hate Lieberman, too. So you don't really care about who supports him. You are just enjoying what others tell you is the end of the Democratic Party. So, I believe I am using the word correctly so I shall decline your invitation to look it up.
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.11.06 - 11:54 pm
Whew..I must be getting senile, because I can't remember stating that I hated Lieberman.
Or, are you just trying to engage in argumentum ad ignoratiam?
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:10 am | #
Zap -- the gods of linkage are arrayed against you tonight. Try again? (unless it's just me, that is.)
Virginia |
08.12.06 - 12:10 am | #
Farking hell???????????? Hahahahahaha.
bigvic
Yeah, I was just talking to the whippersnapper on the phone a bit ago, and he was off to get a little sumpin sumpin.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:10 am | #
Heh, even theshill on Charlie Rrepublican Rose show admits that the UK didn't fully inform the US until 2 weeks ago out of fear that the Bush Administration would leak the info (which in a way they did).
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:10 am | #
Nim,
I will thank you for not making any such intimations to the contrary in the future.
Okay, John Alden who just stepped off of the fucking Mayflower and has never ever had his penis stroked.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:11 am | #
good evening, moonbats.
Olaf glad and big |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:12 am | #
I must be getting senile, because I can't remember stating that I hated Lieberman.
You deny it? Really? A liberal like Holy Joe? You like him?
I was born at night, but it was not tonight.
Snow, Sublimest |
Homepage |
08.12.06 - 12:12 am | #
Another odd thing I had to do was some work on the filtration system for the pool in the back yard. The pump seals were blown out an they didn't move much water. I finally decided to just replace the pump, since it showed quite a bit of wear otherwise. The rest of the filtration system looked OK once I back flushed it for awhile.
My yard is full of bunny rabbits, but no jack rabbits. Kody (my labrador) is overjoyed at this. She has something to chase everytime she goes outside.
The rain storms are still dumping an unusual amount of water for the summer monsoon rains. This isn't a problem except that I dont' have any trimming equipment here right now so things are getting a bit overgrown. Oh well that stuff is on the moving truck and I'll have that tomorrow.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:12 am | #
Nim, hamhock of liberty, can you please take my advice and make to Farmers' Market tomorrow? It will be well-worthy you time as nearly everything is reaching its peak. I am even guess that there will be some Ida Red apples.
(THese are named for the matriarch of the Bull family of Casnovia and Sparta. Crisp fall apples that mature in late summer. Excellent)
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
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08.12.06 - 12:13 am | #
the gods of linkage are arrayed against you tonight. Try again? (unless it's just me, that is.)
My html skillz are rusty.
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:13 am | #
Vicki,
Hahahahaha. Too much info!!! Does your hippy dippy sis know he (and you!) are typing this. Knowing you guys, it's all cool. OMFG! Hahahahaha
bigvic |
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08.12.06 - 12:14 am | #
"Nim, hamhock of liberty, can you please take my advice and make to Farmers' Market tomorrow? It will be well-worthy you time as nearly everything is reaching its peak. I am even guess that there will be some Ida Red apples."
I'll remind Jen ^_^
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
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08.12.06 - 12:14 am | #
riddle me this. . . if you are running against the democratic nominee for the senate in connecticut, what party are you in? certainly not the democratic party.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:14 am | #
And as such, I am pure as the driven snow
Speak not of such things, lad, for you know not of which you speak. Driven, I may do many an unclean thing.
Snow, Sublimest |
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08.12.06 - 12:14 am | #
Does your hippy dippy sis know he (and you!) are typing this. Knowing you guys, it's all cool.
She's fucking reading this, big vic! That's what is so funny! She rarely posts, but when she does, the earth parts.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:15 am | #
Ma'am, I am unwed. And as such, I am pure as the driven snow, and as chaste as...as a very chaste person.
I will thank you for not making any such intimations to the contrary in the future.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
Gay?
She won't?
Still recovering from the second bar test?
DWD - Calling Bullshit! |
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08.12.06 - 12:15 am | #
Speak not of such things, lad, for you know not of which you speak. Driven, I may do many an unclean thing.
Snow, Sublimest
I love you. I wish you'd stop the world and melt with me.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:16 am | #
certainly not the democratic party.
Silly Olaf...you're an "Independent Democrat", of course.
Just give it up, Joe. You're DUNNFUR!!
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:17 am | #
"Gay?
She won't?
Still recovering from the second bar test?
DWD - Calling Bullshit! "
Just deep moral fiber, sir. I am exceptionally fibrous.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
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08.12.06 - 12:18 am | #
Now, this is a bust I can get behind:
Size DLC Cup
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:19 am | #
-Knock, knock
-Who's there?
-Ned..it's me...Satan. I just need you to sign these papers...you know...for the soul? I held up my part of the bargain. Now it's your turn.
-But, shit...it's not looking good for me in November.
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08.12.06 - 12:20 am | #
She's fucking reading this, big vic! That's what is so funny! She rarely posts, but when she does, the earth parts.
Hahahaha. OK, I tried to defend your *dirty hippie honor*, sis of Vic. Woo Hoo! What a family!
bigvic |
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08.12.06 - 12:20 am | #
Silly Olaf...you're an "Independent Democrat", of course.
Just give it up, Joe. You're DUNNFUR!!
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:17 am | #
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independent of what? independent of the democratic party? that's fine, i guess. nothing really wrong with being independent of the democratic party. but it means you aren't a democrat.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:21 am | #
Now, this is a bust I can get behind:
Now I see why they call those statues busts.
Snow, Sublimest |
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08.12.06 - 12:21 am | #
Zap -- I get this weird error message, but I did see the scrabble board. Pretty sweet!
Virginia |
08.12.06 - 12:21 am | #
I must be getting senile, because I can't remember stating that I hated Lieberman.
You deny it? Really? A liberal like Holy Joe? You like him?
I was born at night, but it was not tonight.
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:12 am
I don't hate liberals. I...well...I pity them.
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:22 am | #
I don't hate liberals. I...well...I pity them.
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 12:22 am | #
Olaf, I've become a desert rat again.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:25 am | #
According to the ABC guy on Charlie Rose the US had NO FUCKING IDEA about this airline plot against the US Airlines until 2 weeks ago because the UK didn't trust the US with the information.
Our closest ally won't even trust us with information about an imminent terrorist threat against this country yet we are supposed to believe that fighting terrorism is the GOP's strongest issue?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:25 am | #
I wish someone would cast my bust in resin, and if that someone is out there and knows who he is...
HA!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:25 am | #
Olaf, I've become a desert rat again.
Doug, eeek spiders! | 08.12.06 - 12:25 am | #
i saw that. sounds like you are settling right in.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:26 am | #
nothing really wrong with being independent of the democratic party. but it means you aren't a democrat.
That's the joke. I think that he needs 7500 sigs in the next week to run as an Indy. He's doing it to spite Lamont; not 'cause he's got something to prove.
Virginia, just click on de "homepage". It should all be there...unless blogger's going under some construction.
I am not good at flirting. Boundaries mean so little to me.
Snow, Sublimest |
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08.12.06 - 12:26 am | #
According to the ABC guy on Charlie Rose the US had NO FUCKING IDEA about this airline plot against the US Airlines until 2 weeks ago because the UK didn't trust the US with the information.
Our closest ally won't even trust us with information about an imminent terrorist threat against this country yet we are supposed to believe that fighting terrorism is the GOP's strongest issue?
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 08.12.06 - 12:25 am |
It wasn't the GOPers that they were worried about. It was scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk...along with the NYT
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:27 am | #
i hate conservatives. go fuck yourself.
Olaf glad and big
I'd like to associate myself with that remark. Those freaks are killing Amerrica from the inside out.
bigvic |
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08.12.06 - 12:28 am | #
Time for me to drift off.
Snow, Sublimest |
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08.12.06 - 12:28 am | #
doug, now all you need is a peculiar motorcycle to complete the desrt rat chic.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:28 am | #
Oh jeez, did you read that? The sculpture of Hillary (and her bosom) is by the same guy who did that incredible sculpture of Brittney Spears giving birth on a bearskin rug. Honest to God. If nothing else, that artist knows how to work the publicity machine.
strawhat |
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08.12.06 - 12:28 am | #
I wish someone would cast my bust in resin
It's easier to take a mold of the desired part with plaster of paris.
There should not be any hair, otherwise it will be removed when the plaster mold is removed. The other consideration is that plaster of paris is a bit restrictive, so that a mold should only be made of one side of the chest at a time, to prevent aphixiation.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:29 am | #
I am not good at flirting. Boundaries mean so little to me.
Snow, Sublimest |
Ha!
I love flirting, which is why Thers bans it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:29 am | #
I went over to thefreerepublic.com and messed around.
They have some site vulnerabilities that could be amusing, as in being able to grab usernames and passwords.
I did not hack the site, just did a little testing.
The POWNed Republic |
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08.12.06 - 12:29 am | #
I don't hate liberals. I...well...I pity them.
Oh, a concern troll. How fucking sweet! You wish to help us. Then why do you hate Kerrey?
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage |
Drunk??...much???...again, when did I ever say I hated Kerrey?
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:29 am | #
All the NSA illeagal wiretapping, the torture, the incarceration with out charge, the pointless wars, the fearmongering, the lies and propaganda of the US conservative right did absolutley fucking nothing to expose this terrorist plot. What worked was treating the problem as a serious criminal investigation.
Fuck Bush.
Fuck the GOP.
Fuck Conservatives.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:29 am | #
Doug, I assure you that there are no hairs on my breastesses.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:29 am | #
It wasn't the GOPers that they were worried about. It was scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk...along with the NYT
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 12:27 am | #
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i reiterate. go fuck yourself.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:29 am | #
It was scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk...along with the NYT
Of course, all of those people/papers are in charge of NATIONAL SECURITY RIGHT NOW!!
According to the ABC guy on Charlie Rose the US had NO FUCKING IDEA about this airline plot against the US Airlines until 2 weeks ago because the UK didn't trust the US with the information.
Our closest ally won't even trust us with information about an imminent terrorist threat against this country yet we are supposed to believe that fighting terrorism is the GOP's strongest issue?
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 08.12.06 - 12:25 am |
That's because the US crowed about some guy captured in Pakistan and tipped off the July 7th bombers last year.
It's like watching a bad remake of "Get Smart".
cheney_usa |
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08.12.06 - 12:31 am | #
I wish someone would cast my bust in resin, and if that someone is out there and knows who he is...
Just try to improve on my lack of perfection. Thank you.
bigvic |
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08.12.06 - 12:31 am | #
I went over to thefreerepublic.com and messed around.
They have some site vulnerabilities that could be amusing, as in being able to grab usernames and passwords.
I did not hack the site, just did a little testing.
The POWNed Republic | Homepage
Hey, here's a thought: Why not counter them with cogent rational arguments?
Sorry, forgot who I was talking to. Yeah, you'd better stick with the cowardly vandalism.
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:31 am | #
One time I got crabs, you know, from screwing Ann Coulter, so I shaved half my pubes, set the other half on fire and stabbed the little bastards with an ice pick when they ran across.
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:32 am | #
There is a trade off with plaster between faster formulations that harden quicker but also produce more heat, and ones that take longer to solidify, and are cooler on the skin.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:32 am | #
One time I got crabs, you know, from screwing Ann Coulter, so I shaved half my pubes, set the other half on fire and stabbed the little bastards with an ice pick when they ran across.
Oy!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:32 am | #
It was scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk...along with the NYT
I haven't had time to check out strange motercycles. Is there anyone making a diesel bike yet?
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:33 am | #
Democrats must strip him of any kind of committee appointments or authority within the party.
The other thing is we must contact our Democratic representatives and tell them to support Ned Lamont and his bid for the senate.
pigboy |
08.12.06 - 12:34 am | #
cogent arguments like. . .
It wasn't the GOPers that they were worried about. It was scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk...along with the NYT
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 12:27 am | #
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Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:34 am | #
Thanks for 06, dipshit.
Ô¿Ô |
08.12.06 - 12:35 am | #
OK, I think I might be able to sleep at last.
Hasta bananas, y'all. Lovin' ya!*
*with 1 exception
Virginia |
08.12.06 - 12:35 am | #
It wasn't the GOPers that they were worried about. It was scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk...along with the NYT
And the boogie man.
cheney_usa |
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08.12.06 - 12:35 am | #
It was scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk...along with the NYT
Of course, all of those people/papers are in charge of NATIONAL SECURITY RIGHT NOW!!
I just found the vulnerabilities, I did not HAXOR the site.
Are you the admin for joe2006.com?
Who give a shit what you can do to a site?
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:36 am | #
Just scrape the dipshit off of your boots and throw it in the snake pit. It's not bright enough to bother with otherwise.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:37 am | #
I haven't had time to check out strange motercycles. Is there anyone making a diesel bike yet?
Doug, eeek spiders! | 08.12.06 - 12:33 am | #
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i don't know of any that are available in the us. i think some are available in europe and other places though. in some parts of the world, especially europe, diesel is becoming the default fuel for everything. gasoline is sort of being phased out. did you ever find a mercedes, btw?
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:37 am | #
Huh! I didn't realize that Mary Mathers was in charge of NATIONAL SECURITY...or Russell Tice
I thought it was Jerry Mathers that we couldn't trust. That's what that good Republican Eddie Haskell said.
Eddie: "Hello Mrs. Bush. You look radiant tonight."
cheney_usa |
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08.12.06 - 12:37 am | #
You know, Mom did the best she could, but after all, it was fleet week and she had to pay the light bill. My nickname is Kearsarge.
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:37 am | #
That's because the US crowed about some guy captured in Pakistan and tipped off the July 7th bombers last year.
they revealed that info in the run up to the 2004 US elections. Doing so allowed some of the plotters to escape who later were involved with the 7/7 bombings in London.
So if the Bush people weren't such fucking scumbags the Tube bombings might have been prevented. Fighting terrorism my ass.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:37 am | #
Dixie Chicks on WKNO.org
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:38 am | #
Smarter Atrios posters, please
dipshit
Damn...ya got me.
GOP 4-evah!!
/applies tattoo to forearm
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:38 am | #
-11 Deja Vu
by
Larry C Johnson
Let's at least give George W. Bush credit for being consistent. Prior to 9-11 he was warned on multiple occasions that Al Qaeda was ready to strike inside the United States. His response--do nothing. Now we are informed that Bush knew about the terrorist threat of liquid explosives since at least last Friday, 4 August 2006. According to Yahoo News:
Snow said Bush first learned in detail about the plot on Friday, and received two detailed briefings on it on Saturday and Sunday, as well as had two conversations about it with British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
What did George do? NOTHING. No effort, whatsoever, to raise the terrorist threat level. No effort to boost aviation security procedures. I traveled on British Air from Tanzania to London on Tuesday, August 8th. I traveled from London to Brussels on British Air on Tuesday, August 8th. I carried bottles of liquid on both flights. Blair and Bush knew about this since last Friday and did nothing? That's right.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:41 am | #
Bush, like a 12 year old boy on summer vacation, waited and rode his bike around his Texas ranch. No effort to task TSA to come up with tools to detect liquid explosives. No new inspection procedures. Just enjoy his vacation. That, boys and girls, is how the first 9-11 happened. And Gorgeous George wants credit for keeping us safe at home? Not this time. Never again!
doug, i heard the governor of your former home state on the radio the other day. he really seems to know his shit as far as energy independence goes.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:42 am | #
OMG.... explosive devises given to homeless shelters!!!!
Saturday, August 12, 2006
How can they give the confiscated airport items to the homeless if they don't know if they're explosives or not?
by John in DC - 8/12/2006 12:04:00 AM
I'm talking about the new things they're confiscating at the airport. They say the products are unopened, but they're giving them to the homeless in Phoenix. Okay, then how do you know they're not explosives that you're handing to the homeless, since you haven't opened them? Apparently, the airport people, in Phoenix at least, know quite well that the stuff they took off of the passengers in line were not explosives. So why did they take it in the first place?
Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport planned to give 11 boxes of surrendered items to the city's human services department, which will give the unopened bottles of shampoo, toothpaste and other items to homeless shelters, airport spokeswoman Lexie Van Haren said. http://americablog.blogspot.com/
pigboy |
08.12.06 - 12:42 am | #
Gawd, I lub that drunkard.
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:43 am | #
I carried bottles of liquid on both flights. Blair and Bush knew about this since last Friday and did nothing? That's right.
Mr.Murder | 08.12.06 - 12:41 am | #
It just bugs the hell out of me that our media does not get down to ask about this kind of thing.
pigboy |
08.12.06 - 12:43 am | #
Mr. Murder,
You make an excellent point.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:44 am | #
Joe and the GOP have been playing political games with this for days. This is a classic case of partisan misuse of intelligence. They should all have their security clearances pulled.
" (A) senior White House official said that the British government had not launched its raid until well after Mr Cheney held a highly unusual conference call with reporters to attack the Democrats as weak against terrorism.
An aide to Senator Lieberman, who would have been one of the first Democrats to hear of the plot because he is the top Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said the lawmaker first heard of it on Thursday.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:44 am | #
Why do the barnyard animals run when they hear me coming?
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:44 am | #
.BY.EXPOSING.THE.SWIFT.PROG RAM
dipshit
Yeah...swift didn't have their own web site, or anything.
Huh! I didn't realize that Mary Mathers was in charge of NATIONAL SECURITY...or Russell Tice
You are the dumbfuck who claimed that the UK did not inform the US about the terror plot against US airliners becuase of "scum like Rockefeller, Leahy, Mary Mathers, Sandy Berglar, and their ilk".
In fact the UK did not inform us because they did not trust the people who are actually in control of national security: the Conservative Republicans of the George W. Bush Administration.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:45 am | #
so how would these treasonous leftists find out about it if they told the white house?
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:45 am | #
Vicki, just passing along posts from No Quarter...
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:45 am | #
Dixie Chicks singing "travelin' soldier" on WKNO.org
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:46 am | #
are members of the administration in the habit of leaking information to treasonous leftists?
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:46 am | #
-11 Deja Vu
by
Larry C Johnson
Larry Johnson...THE Larry Johnson...the Larry Johnson that threatened to murder a conservative blogger?
THAT Larry Johnson?
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:47 am | #
63% of the country think these guys are assholes and have no clue about anything,
They're right. The Republican Party is disintegrating into cesspool of greed, partisan character assassination and macho posturing not seen since Rock Hudson was alive, and yet they lose wars, screw up perfectly good-functioning economies (at home and abroad). and fail to defend the country. dipshit and his ilk are like the cockroaches.
ronjazz |
08.12.06 - 12:47 am | #
Waiting to hear about the Tom Waits concert from a friend...
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:47 am | #
Be right back, folks, got to go fix my anal prolapse.
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:47 am | #
How the fuck would the "TREASONOUS.LEFIST.SCUM." know about it if the UK informed the Bush Administration about the terror plot against the USA?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:48 am | #
You know, I'm in the mood for that Dixie Chicks CD tonight, come to think of it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
08.12.06 - 12:48 am | #
Bill Richardson just earned the FDL Seal of Approval for having the guts to be the first prominent national Democrat to call on Holy Joe to stop mucking up the party and get out of the race. Okay those are my words not his. But the point remains.
are members of the administration in the habit of leaking information to treasonous leftists?
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:46 am
Nope..but unfortunately there are treasonous leftists who do have access to clasified info...sorry as that is
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:49 am | #
Well if he's reason to be angry I suppose he could claim it wasn't murder, more like self defense.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:49 am | #
Waiting to hear about the Tom Waits concert from a friend...
Mr.Murder | 08.12.06 - 12:47 am | #
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this is just a wild guess, but i'm going to go out on a limb and say it was probably fantastic.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:49 am | #
But he said in a statement Thursday that he was backing Ned Lamont, the man who defeated Lieberman in this week's Democratic primary.
"I look forward to supporting Ned as he fights to help Democrats take back the Senate, and I call on Joe Lieberman to respect the will of the voters and step aside," Richardson said.
Actually Wes Clark has already sent out emails asking Joe to drop out of the race, he has a petition drive to ask as much of him.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:50 am | #
...and if the treasonous leftists don't have access, they'll find ways to steal it.
Sandy Berger come to mind?
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:50 am | #
Rule #1 for interrupting criminal/terrorist conspiracy rings: If your investigation is fortunate enough to identify members of said criminal terrorist/conspiracy, and you need to make arrests because (a), you have enough evidence to convict, and (b) waiting any longer would place the public at risk, KEEP ANY ARRESTS OF SUSPECTS SILENT:
DO NOT:
Notify or speak with the media or speak to reporters.
DO: Make any necessary arrests as quietly as possible, file sealed indictments, and make certain your terrorist suspect is isolated and prevented from sending any word or signal to others still at large.
Now then, regarding the alleged plot to blow up 9 airliners using liquid explosives, what did you just see, and when.
You saw the following: You saw an internationally publicized ANNOUNCEMENT that violates every single principle of investigative and procedural rules for securing follow up arrests.
August 11, 2006, via Yahoo News:
Chertoff: Not certain all plotters found
By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The well-advanced plot to blow up airliners flying from Britain to the United States had the markings of al-Qaida, and it's not yet certain that authorities have found everyone involved, the
Homeland Security secretary says..................................... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060.../
us_terror_plot <
The PROMOTION of this "plot" is PURE BULLSHIT in my not too humble opinion.
Posted by: Jay Esbe | Friday, 11 August 2006 at 07:07
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:50 am | #
Hey dipshit...
Answer the question. Wasn't the SWIFT program already public before the NYT story?
C'mon. Zappy needs some troll luvin...(not really)
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:50 am | #
Hey dipshit...
Answer the question. Wasn't the SWIFT program already public before the NYT story?
C'mon. Zappy needs some troll luvin...(not really)
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:50 am | #
Bill Richardson just earned the FDL Seal of Approval for having the guts to be the first prominent national Democrat to call on Holy Joe to stop mucking up the party and get out of the race. Okay those are my words not his. But the point remains.
richardson seems like a fairly adequate governor to me.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:51 am | #
Olaf, I did find a couple of Mercedes 240 and 300TD that I was interested in but decided, that I didn't have the time with the impending move and house showings to fiddle with them like I should before taking them on a cross country move. Things like valve adjustments, and such that I'd want to be able to take my time doing that I didn't have. I figure I can find one down here, park it under the car awning and make it right before putting it on the highway.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:51 am | #
Bill Richardson just earned the FDL Seal of Approval for having the guts to be the first prominent national Democrat to call on Holy Joe to stop mucking up the party and get out of the race. Okay those are my words not his. But the point remains.
Did Hamsher have Richardson in blackface, too?
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:51 am | #
thanks for proving my point, dipshit, but enough. we get it. you're an asshole, that's why you defend them. dirty assholes would stick together, wouldn't they? a dipshit would know...
ronjazz |
08.12.06 - 12:52 am | #
Hey dipshit...
Answer the question. Wasn't the SWIFT program already public before the NYT story?
C'mon. Zappy needs some troll luvin...(not really)
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:50 am
Well...my work here is done. G'night, all.
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 12:53 am | #
I'm really sorry about our little Toby.
We tried to keep him from burning those puppies but he was just too quick for his one-legged father to catch. And then there were all those drugs, and the time he fell and hit his head. It's really not our fault.
dipshits mom |
08.12.06 - 12:54 am | #
and if the treasonous leftists don't have access, they'll find ways to steal it.
so all with all the extra-constitutional NSA spying powers that the Bush Administration has given itself "to fight terrorism" they can't even find "traitors" within its own ranks?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:54 am | #
Berger didn't steal anything, there is background of the documents supposedly missing, they are after action report examples of the millenium terror plot that was stopped.
WHich it appears they've basically fished web replies of an entrapment effort and stopped a plot that wasn't.
Now if pakistan really wanted to help stop terror perhaps they'd hand over Osama... but dipshit doesn't care about that. He needs bin laden laive to compare him to liberals in his twisted world view.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:54 am | #
dipshit's run out of lies. and straw.
ronjazz |
08.12.06 - 12:54 am | #
BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- German novelist Guenter Grass admitted in an interview that he served in the Waffen SS, the combat arm of Adolf Hitler's dreaded paramilitary forces, during World War II, a German newspaper reported.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 12:54 am | #
WAY late to the thread, but I doubt Kerrey's endorsement will help Lieberman, given that 79% of Democrats in a nationwide poll say they are glad Lieberman lost.
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 12:55 am | #
I'm really sorry about our little Toby.
I've been talking to Tubby Putzhole?
/hangs head in shame.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:55 am | #
No
dipshit
Prove it, clod.
SWIFT and other financial tracking initatives have been ongoing since 9/11. The NYT didn't fumble upon it, moron.
You'd be stupid to think otherwise.
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 12:55 am | #
spinoza - in his defense, Grass performed a pretty spectacular act of atonement in writing The Tin Drum.
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 12:56 am | #
dip cut and ran....... which is good
pigboy |
08.12.06 - 12:57 am | #
I guess we'll know it was explosive after a homeless person's head catches on fire from donated shampoo.
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08.12.06 - 12:57 am | #
BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- German novelist Guenter Grass admitted in an interview that he served in the Waffen SS, the combat arm of Adolf Hitler's dreaded paramilitary forces, during World War II, a German newspaper reported.
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he was born in 1927. he would have been 18 in 1945. i'm guessing he wasn't all that active.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 12:57 am | #
I guess we'll know it was explosive after a homeless person's head catches on fire from donated shampoo.
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i guess the only good thing is he will already be in the shower
pigboy |
08.12.06 - 12:58 am | #
The terraists aren't like us, they hate us for our bottled waters.
By the way, Dixie Chicks doing interviews on WKNO.org
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 12:58 am | #
dip cut and ran....... which is good
the indefensible is hard to defend, which is why the likes of Bill O'Shithead and Rush Limbaugh are millionaires, and our trolls are total fucking losers.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.12.06 - 12:59 am | #
spinoza - in his defense, Grass performed a pretty spectacular act of atonement in writing The Tin Drum.
Well, he was just 15 or 16. Maybe he and Pope Ratzo masturbated each other in all their excitement at getting to wear uniforms.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 12:59 am | #
novelist Guenter Grass admitted in an interview that he served in the Waffen SS,
This would explain the sense of extreme horror at the world that you can get from reading his novels.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 12:59 am | #
Olaf - weren't the Nazis pressing boys as young as 14 or 15 into service by the end of the war?
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 12:59 am | #
he was born in 1927. he would have been 18 in 1945. i'm guessing he wasn't all that active.
A LOT of eighteen year olds died in that war.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 1:00 am | #
The best assessment of the race I've found so far is from the Rude Pundit, who notes that Lieberman lost because he "hitched his wagon to George Bush's star, and that f*@#er went supernova!"
Olaf - weren't the Nazis pressing boys as young as 14 or 15 into service by the end of the war?
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probably even younger than that. old men also.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:01 am | #
Heh, San Francisco will place an Impeach Bush initiative on their November ballot. Berkeley will also have one.
the indefensible is hard to defend, which is why the likes of Bill O'Shithead and Rush Limbaugh are millionaires, and our trolls are total fucking losers.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 08.12.06 - 12:59 am | #
they think if they can talk loud enough, fast enough, long enough and get the other guy to shut up, they have won the debate. The only good thing is those who see that kind of debate see it for what it is.
pigboy |
08.12.06 - 1:01 am | #
it were up to San Franciscans, we would have impeached Bush in 2003.
Posted by: farzi | Wednesday, 09 August 2006 at 17:57
Hey Farzi,
If it were up to NYC, Bush never would've been selected.
I just had a horrible thought. Is there any scenario by which Lieberman could be put up for SCOTUS, if one of them were to die or retire in the next 2 years?
Ghost Image |
08.12.06 - 1:01 am | #
Vicki, You posted at 11:07 about the meteor showers. I was in my hot tub last night and saw two shooting stars in an hour or so.It was great seeing just those two. I can't wait till tomorrow when the meteor shower will be at its peak... Hot tub, meteor showers, cocktails, and Mrs. H.B. in the hot tub with me. Ha ha. Life just doesn't get much better than that.
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08.12.06 - 1:01 am | #
yup. grass probably knew that. that probably why he joined the waffen ss instead of waiting to be conscripted and sent to russia.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:03 am | #
I really need to make up w/ Em right now.
But check out homepage for Scrabble, Headline News clods, and the state DFL's misguided initatives.
Lub y'all!!
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 1:03 am | #
I really need to make up w/ Em right now.
But check out homepage for Scrabble, Headline News clods, and the state DFL's misguided initatives.
Lub y'all!!
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 1:03 am | #
weren't the Nazis pressing boys as young as 14 or 15 into service by the end of the war?
Yes, turning the "Hitler youth" into soldiers. I had a prof in college who had this happen to him. He was recuited into this from a Baltic country, and lost a leg in that war. He was an interesting person, but was and still is a strange and somewhat tormented man.
Doug, eeek spiders! |
08.12.06 - 1:03 am | #
good night you freedom fighters and lovers of the truth.......
pigboy |
08.12.06 - 1:03 am | #
I heart Wes Clark! He's really come a long way since his run in '04. Even after Kerry got the nomination, Clark so improved on the stump. I thought his speech at the convention was hands down the most powerful (and that includes Obama's). And I'll never forget his defense of Kerry on Hannity/Colmes that nearly caused Hannity to have a stroke. It was hilarious, especially because Clark was so calm and just sat there and smiled while Hannity's face turned the color of cherry tomatoes...
It's great that he's remaining politically engaged. No matter what he decides to do for '08, he's a great weapon for the Dems.
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Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 1:04 am | #
You guys make Karl Rove smile.
Schwa? |
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08.12.06 - 1:05 am | #
Point being, Grass may have served for a couple of years - the worst years (for the Germans) - of the war.
My dad joined up with the Army Air Corps at 17 in 1945...fortunately for him, too late to do any real fighting.
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 1:05 am | #
Schwa - nonsense. Karl is only really amused by rotting corpses infested with maggots.
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 1:06 am | #
You guys make Karl Rove smile.
Schwa? | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 1:05 am | #
Did somebody hear something just then? Like a whiny little mosquito?
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 1:07 am | #
"Our version of a good patriotic song because we do love our country..."
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 1:07 am | #
Cheney is Dracula.
Rove is Renfield.
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 1:07 am | #
Grass in the WSS: well, that was a very long time ago, and we have an enormous portion of lifetime besides service to the Nazi state-religion to judge him by. Pope Ratzo has always been a force for reaction and barbarism, associated with the ultra-conservative wing of the Catholic Church. Grass inarguably has devoted his adult life to preventing Nazism and things approaching it. To judge Nazis ask, what would we think of these people if the Nazi part were totally subtracted? Grass comes out smelling like a rose, Ratzo is still a fucking creep, and not just for resembling the Emporer in Star Wars.
yurk |
08.12.06 - 1:07 am | #
i actually do make karl rove smile. if i catch him not smiling i say "where's that smile, karl?" then i cockpunch him, just to remind him.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:08 am | #
In Juan Cole's blog, he notes that the Brits have been working against this group for over a year, yet told the Bushies nothing until two weeks ago. In 2004, during the election campaign, the Bushies boasted about an al qaeda operative in Pakistan who had been caught. Unfortunately, the Brits had turned him and they lost contact with the plotters. Some say they were the 7.7 subway bombers. At least, the Brits learned their lesson.
No effort to task TSA to come up with tools to detect liquid explosives. No new inspection procedures. Just enjoy his vacation. That, boys and girls, is how the first 9-11 happened.
Mr.Murder
Bush staff wanted bomb-detect cash moved
charley |
08.12.06 - 1:10 am | #
The republicans are conditioning us: When Democrats win, bad things will happen to us...doesn't matter if the US had pretty much nothing to do with the uncovering of a plot in another country.
These guys are going to steal it again in November, and that's the biggest scare we face.
Oh, and remember when Laura Bush was in the White House during a terror threat, while Bush was riding his bike? The Secret Service didn't want to disturb Bush's bike ride to let him know his wife might be in danger. Bushie has his priorities.
Here's more evidence that the Bush administration has known that liquid explosives could be brought on board airlines and that he did nothing. The International Herald Tribune wrote in 1995, during the Clinton administration, about a plot to blow up airplanes using liquid explosives.
Cheney should apologize for accusing Connecticuticans of enabling al Qaeda by voting. Many Connecticuticans work in NYC near the WTC. They haven't forgotten 9/11.
Posted by: Leslie |
Cheney should apologize
Yeah. That'll happen. You're talking about a guy who shot someone in the face and then extracted an apology from the victim.
Posted by: semper fubar |
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 1:14 am | #
Senate Democratic leaders on Friday accused Vice President Dick Cheney of playing politics with terrorism and contended that voters won't buy Republican arguments that the GOP is stronger on national security.
"They've run this play one too many times," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said in a conference call with reporters. "The American people simply do not recognize any validity in what they're saying."
Is Haloscan broken? This thread seems old and very slow.
EkCenTriK |
08.12.06 - 1:14 am | #
It's not difficult for intel assets to create a "cell" of stooges who are then "busted" for plotting terrorist acts. The media eats that stuff up. And the political operatives bask in knowing that their fear tactics continue to work magic time after time after time.
Suddenly, anyone with bottled liquids and a camera are capable of carrying out a terror attack. On a plane. On a bus. On a subway. At the ballpark. On a beach. In a restaurant or movie theater. Anywhere. The world as we know it has just reached an end.
Of course, this risk has always existed. Long before 9/11 and afterward. It's really nothing new. Unless you're those selling fear to the masses.
Bush tried to cut the budget for new bomb detection equipment. Bush tried to divert $6 million while the liquid bomb plot was being hatched. But you have to read the rest of the article, because it gets worse.
Oh, and wasn't it interesting that the British and Pakistani governments didn't tell the Bush administration about their months-long investigation until they were ready to make it public? Guess they remember what happened last time.
In Juan Cole's blog, he notes that the Brits have been working against this group for over a year, yet told the Bushies nothing until two weeks ago. In 2004, during the election campaign, the Bushies boasted about an al qaeda operative in Pakistan who had been caught. Unfortunately, the Brits had turned him and they lost contact with the plotters. Some say they were the 7.7 subway bombers. At least, the Brits learned their lesson.
Who wants to lay odds on the Brits deciding to "roll up" the plotters when they did because they got all the usual "tells" from the administration - Cheney and others suggesting that anytime a Bush warmongering enabler loses (Lieberman), it "emboldens" the terrorists? Having watched the Bushies blow it in other cases, for their own political gain (screw the public safety), they knew they had to move before BushCo blew it.
I won't blame all of you for not rushing to wager on it, since it's a sucker's bet.
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08.12.06 - 1:16 am | #
Is Haloscan broken? This thread seems old and very slow.
EkCenTriK
i'm working on it. so far i barely even have one sheet to the wind.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:18 am | #
"Where's all the late nite drunks?"
That is the first problem as far as I can see. I am not drinking.
EkCenTriK |
08.12.06 - 1:18 am | #
"In Juan Cole's blog, he notes that the Brits have been working against this group for over a year, yet told the Bushies nothing until two weeks ago."
It's because they know chimpy can't keep his mouth shut.
They'd have been out trumpeting this months ago to try to make a political point.
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08.12.06 - 1:18 am | #
If Grass sinned, he tried--& imho he succeded--to expiate his guilt by his frank and merciless portrayal of the horrific mediocrity of Nazism. He writes from a terrible knowledge...
Ratzi, the Nazi, bears his complicity unashamedly into his public persona. Who better than a confirmed fascist to lead the Church's office of the Inquisition? Who less likely to shrink from the blood shed in the higher cause?
WoodyGuthriesDolchstossblog |
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08.12.06 - 1:19 am | #
Dixie Chicks concert is pickin' and shreddin' some stuff!
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 1:20 am | #
i'm working on it. so far i barely even have one sheet to the wind.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 1:18 am | #
Right there with ya.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 1:20 am | #
Excluding the Iraq problem, what should be the first thing a new administration or maybe a new majority congress do in terms of security?
EkCenTriK |
08.12.06 - 1:20 am | #
whatcha doing up so late, woody?
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:21 am | #
We're supposed to believe a bunch of Pakistani transplants living in the UK are really James Bond-style supervillains with fantasy technology? Who are these evil masterminds, John Whorfin, John Bigboote and a bunch of Red Lectroids?
I'm not believing any of this. Probably about as real a threat as the terrorist boot group in Miami.
puppethead |
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08.12.06 - 1:21 am | #
EkCenTrik - Impeach Bush and Cheney.
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 1:22 am | #
They'd have been out trumpeting this months ago to try to make a political point.
fourlegsgood
yeah, but they still are. acting like it relates more to the NSA and SWIFT revelations, than it does the Khan fiasco.
and of course the stenographers just regurgitate at will.
charley |
08.12.06 - 1:22 am | #
Excluding the Iraq problem, what should be the first thing a new administration or maybe a new majority congress do in terms of security?
Lock up all the neo-cons.
The world will be a safer place.
fourlegsgood |
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08.12.06 - 1:22 am | #
Okay, I am sort of let down. This place is hopping like GOP convention. First person arranging tee off times confirms the point.
EkCenTriK |
08.12.06 - 1:22 am | #
Excuse me....I meant to say that I want water.
lola |
08.12.06 - 1:22 am | #
the fact that grass joined the waffen ss in 1945 tells me that he put off military service as long as he possibly could.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:23 am | #
Excluding the Iraq problem, what should be the first thing a new administration or maybe a new majority congress do in terms of security?
EkCenTriK
Dismantle the dungeon that is Guantanamo and treat the captives there as human beings, giving them their days in court. Real court, not military tribunals.
puppethead |
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08.12.06 - 1:24 am | #
whatcha doing up so late, woody?
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 1:21 am
Excluding the Iraq problem, what should be the first thing a new administration or maybe a new majority congress do in terms of security?
EkCenTriK
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confiscate all of halliburton's assets and return them to the treasury.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:26 am | #
BBC:Russian musicians returning from London after the Bolshoi Theatre's season face an overland journey because of the new UK cabin baggage ban on planes.
They are under contract to keep their instruments with them and cannot check them in as hold baggage, chief conductor Alexander Vedernikov said.
Nothing deadlier than a well-tuned cello.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 1:26 am | #
BBC:Russian musicians returning from London after the Bolshoi Theatre's season face an overland journey because of the new UK cabin baggage ban on planes.
They are under contract to keep their instruments with them and cannot check them in as hold baggage, chief conductor Alexander Vedernikov said.
Nothing deadlier than a well-tuned cello.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 1:26 am | #
I have been on again off again on the impeachment factor. However, I have settled on Impeachment as a priority item after November. Sorry, things will be messy, but I really think we have a volatile lot in the Whitehouse. So basically, I agree.
My wishlist also includes placing competent civilians and military in place and removing the boot lickers and "true believers". If you want to lose the neo-cons at the same time, more the better. And a real gas would be arranging a real task force with real authority to hunt down Bin Laden and crew and bring that to a conclusion.
EkCenTriK |
08.12.06 - 1:26 am | #
Three men charged in the brutal attacks on six men leaving gay pride celebrations in San Diego earlier this month will appear in court September 12 for a preliminary hearing.
The trio appeared in court briefly to have the date set.
Prosecutors are attempting to have a 15-year-old teen also charged in connection with the attacks, tried as an adult. An August 23 court date has been set in his case.
James Allen Carroll, 24, is charged with two counts of attempted murder, six counts of assault with a deadly weapon, one count of conspiracy to commit robbery and hate crime allegations.
Lyonn Taz Tatum, 18, is charged with six counts of assault with a deadly weapon, one count of conspiracy to commit robbery and hate crime allegations.
Kenneth James Lincoln, 23, is charged with three counts of being an accessory after the fact.
The 15-year-old, who cannot be named, is charged in Juvenile Court with six counts of assault with a deadly weapon, one count of conspiracy to commit robbery and hate crime allegations.
Police allege all four are members of a "wannabe" street gang called the "Low Lifes."
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 1:27 am | #
Thanks for 06, Schwa.
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08.12.06 - 1:28 am | #
BBC:Russian musicians returning from London after the Bolshoi Theatre's season face an overland journey because of the new UK cabin baggage ban on planes.
They are under contract to keep their instruments with them and cannot check them in as hold baggage, chief conductor Alexander Vedernikov said.
Nothing deadlier than a well-tuned cello.
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i'm surprised that they even use commercial flights at all. no professional musician would ever send his performance intrument through commercial baggage handling anyway. even if it wasn't in the contract.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:30 am | #
UN 1701:
"Reiterates its strong support for full respect for the Blue Line."
good one, Bolton.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 1:31 am | #
Police allege all four are members of a "wannabe" street gang called the "Low Lifes."
rorschach - 1:27 am
1- Airliner 'crash' just after 9-11, off the northeast coast.
2- Highway snipers in DC, Ohio, new ones this week.
3- Niagara power facility hit from Canada side, most likely an AQ strike. Afterwards we pulsed Canada and did a series of stings and busts.
4- Anthrax Mailings. Matched the timeline of a lobbyist visits to DC who worked bioweapons for contractors and killed self after his business partner's failed murder.
5-Church arson fire bombings in the south along the Bama-Mississippi border.
6- Shooting people at Katrina done by KBR contractors in NOLA.
7- A series of train fires/derails sabotage on the Bama-Miss region.
8- Series of refinery fires in Texas, most likely insurance scam arson work.
Could look a bit closer and parallel other examples.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 1:32 am | #
i'm surprised that they even use commercial flights at all. no professional musician would ever send his performance intrument through commercial baggage handling anyway. even if it wasn't in the contract.
They don't check them. That/s the problem. They are supposed to be able to bring them on as carry-on. If I was on a flight with them, I would be tempted to ask and pay for a concert at 37,000 feet.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 1:33 am | #
there are working stiff orchestral musicians who own $20,000 bows. that doesn't even include the actual fiddle itself.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:33 am | #
there's increasing reason to doubt New Mexico's fabled tolerance is more than athin veneer
WoodyGuthriesDolchstossblog | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 1:31 am | #
That seems to say the opposite of what I think you mean.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 1:33 am | #
That is the first problem as far as I can see. I am not drinking.
EkCenTriK
I'm about to start.
I just finished making a batch of gazpacho for tomorrow and I have a brand new bottle of Glayva beckoning me.
I also noticed that my local licquor store is selling absinthe. Unfortunately a shitty Czech brand (Hill's).
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 1:34 am | #
Anyone notice how low-profile the Bush Administration has been lately, as compared to even 6 months ago?
randar |
08.12.06 - 1:34 am | #
A grateful nation thanks President Bush and his team for a job well done on that London plane attempt the other day. God truly shed his grace on us when he gave us George W Bush, to guide us thru these dark times. Mr President, well done !!
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08.12.06 - 1:34 am | #
wgg, i was actually talking about nm tolerance a few days ago right here. i have noticed that it is an article of faith among new mexicans that all gay new mexicans live in santa fe.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:35 am | #
the real thought crime in this text, however, is that 1701 actually references 242 and 338. and we all know how closely Israel has abided by those UN Resolutions. flowers, balloons, dancing, etc....
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 1:35 am | #
By TOM ZELLER Jr.
Privacy advocates and search industry watchers have long warned that the vast and valuable stores of data collected by search engine companies could be vulnerable to thieves, rogue employees, mishaps or even government subpoenas.
Four [4 search engines mind you] major search companies were served with government subpoenas for their search data last year, and now once again, privacy advocates can say, “We told you so.”
AOL’s misstep last week in briefly posting some 19 million Internet search queries made by more than 600,000 of its unwitting customers has reminded many Americans that their private searches — for solutions to debt or bunions or loneliness — are not entirely their own.
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whew..sure glad I aint into porno right about,.....Now. =)
Magnetic Poet |
08.12.06 - 1:36 am | #
"God truly shed his grace on us when he gave us George W Bush, to guide us thru these dark times."
You rreally do believe a living, breathing gecko is selling insurance to you don't you?
EkCenTriK |
08.12.06 - 1:37 am | #
For decades, Israel has enjoyed an extremely close relationship with the United States. These ties have grown even stronger during George W. Bush's presidency. Israeli leaders should not, however, take American support for granted.
kill or die?
By contrast, Israel's inability to defeat Hezbollah, at least at the tactical and operational level, makes it look less like a valuable ally and more like a liability.
charley |
08.12.06 - 1:38 am | #
The 'terrorism' hoax continues. The gov't is afraid after LIEberman lost. How much more can the gov't take away? They steal our 1st Amendment by detaining protestors in cages and pressuring Amazon to drop the book "America Deceived". They violate the 4th Amendment by illegal wire-taps and reckless search and seizures. The 'terrorism' card will be played and played until the elections. If it doesn't work and the polls do not show improvement, expect another 9/11 (with nukes) carried out by our gov't.
Be defiant, support indy media.
Final link (before Google Books caves and drops the title): America Deceived - Book
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08.12.06 - 1:39 am | #
fun time?
Neff, WalterNeff |
08.12.06 - 1:39 am | #
and we all know how closely Israel has abided by those UN Resolutions. flowers, balloons, dancing, etc....
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
oh please, those mesuggas, they should get such exercise, their hearts are all failing all around them.
Magnetic Poet |
08.12.06 - 1:39 am | #
Why are European Muslims more likely to plot terror attacks there than American Muslims here? [Britain recently suffered one large attack, and just averted another. Then there was Madrid....]
The Atlantic points out that “the patriotism of the American Muslim community has been grossly underreported.”
Stop making sense.
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08.12.06 - 1:40 am | #
fun time?
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what's up, walter neff? you south pacific living bastard.
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08.12.06 - 1:40 am | #
We've been hit by terror since 9-11.
1- Airliner 'crash' just after 9-11, off the northeast coast.
2- Highway snipers in DC, Ohio, new ones this week.
3- Niagara power facility hit from Canada side, most likely an AQ strike. Afterwards we pulsed Canada and did a series of stings and busts.
4- Anthrax Mailings. Matched the timeline of a lobbyist visits to DC who worked bioweapons for contractors and killed self after his business partner's failed murder.
5-Church arson fire bombings in the south along the Bama-Mississippi border.
6- Shooting people at Katrina done by KBR contractors in NOLA.
7- A series of train fires/derails sabotage on the Bama-Miss region.
8- Series of refinery fires in Texas, most likely insurance scam arson work.
Could look a bit closer and parallel other examples.
Mr.Murder
I'd like links for numbers 1, 3, & 4, please.
Could you also clarify how number 2, 5, 6, 7 & 8 rate "terror" instead of "criminal".
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 1:41 am | #
Hey Walter Neff, how's the war on terror going in NZ?
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 1:41 am | #
1- Airliner 'crash' just after 9-11, off the northeast coast.
2- Highway snipers in DC, Ohio, new ones this week.
3- Niagara power facility hit from Canada side, most likely an AQ strike. Afterwards we pulsed Canada and did a series of stings and busts.
4- Anthrax Mailings. Matched the timeline of a lobbyist visits to DC who worked bioweapons for contractors and killed self after his business partner's failed murder.
5-Church arson fire bombings in the south along the Bama-Mississippi border.
6- Shooting people at Katrina done by KBR contractors in NOLA.
7- A series of train fires/derails sabotage on the Bama-Miss region.
8- Series of refinery fires in Texas, most likely insurance scam arson work.
Mr.Murder
Could you please provide links for 1, 3 and 4, please. Also, how do the rest rate "terror" instead of "criminal"?
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 1:42 am | #
I miss New Zealand somethin' awful.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 1:43 am | #
While we're talking about Israeli crimes, let's talk about ethnic cleansing in Sudan. Depending on who you believe, 200,000 to 650,000 black Africans -- men, women, and children -- have been slaughtered over the past two year by Arab Muslims for no other reasons than their skin color, their religious beliefs, and the fact that they are occupying land that the Arabs want.
Can't sleep. Need a scroll troll.
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 1:43 am | #
I have been dutifully doing the Dos on my To Do list for forty years. I am proud to announce that I have but one item left and it is simply to type the next sentence. Now what?
Neff, WalterNeff |
08.12.06 - 1:44 am | #
Incog - well, piss is loaded with ammonia, which can be used with a variety of other substances to make things go "boom".
Jennifer |
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08.12.06 - 1:44 am | #
Wait was that humor that I took for serious?
EkCenTriK
I know it's hard to tell these days, but that one has the scent of parody all over it.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 1:45 am | #
"I'm staying because I want to help end the war in Iraq in a way that brings stability to the Mid-East and doesn't leave us even more vulnerable."
What. A. Dickhead. Lets break this down , Liebie. Why are we "vulnerable"? Hmmm?
That's right, we are vulnerable becuase we are in Iraq, because you sent us there for reasons which, were and, remain patent bullshit.
So, you want us to remain there, for as long as you think it necesary, to remove a "vulnerability" which only exists because we are there, whichwil never diminish so long as we remain there?
How about this, tough-guy: Anybody who thinks we "need" to be there for the safety of our country, prove it. Put your money where your mouth is.
How, you say? Simple: You, Bush, and all the other brave steadfast souls who fear for America's "vunlnerability", get over to Iraq and stay there, until you figure we are no longer "vulnerable". You fucking maggot shitstain.
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TelltaleHeart |
08.12.06 - 1:45 am | #
I have been dutifully doing the Dos on my To Do list for forty years. I am proud to announce that I have but one item left and it is simply to type the next sentence. Now what?
Neff, WalterNeff | 08.12.06 - 1:44 am | #
get a boat.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:46 am | #
Since they're making us empty all liquids before boarding, does that mean bladders, too?
Well, that is an interesting question. You hold one chemical of a binary explosive in your bladder. Your friend holds the other. You both pee on the same spot and KaBOOM. I say we need catheters for all passengers, blue ice be damned!
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in |
08.12.06 - 1:46 am | #
I found this great quote, though.
Zap Rowsdower |
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08.12.06 - 1:48 am | #
hey agave, are you going to be able to make it to the fair?
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:49 am | #
NTSB - American Airlines Flight 587The National Transportation Safety Board dispatched a full Go Team on Monday, November 12, 2001 to the site of the crash that day of American Airlines ...
www.ntsb.gov/events/2001/AA587/default.htm
The media never demanded a full accounting of the incident... heaven knows we can't blame airlines for cutting tech staff after the options prifteering from 9-11.
You'd think the scrutiny would have doubled up such safety concerns, just seems a bit too close.
Online NewsHour: Airliner Crash in Queens -- November 12, 2001Online NewsHour, Online Focus. AIRLINER CRASH. November 12, 2001 ... normally see the logos on for American Airlines, also separate from the debris field, ...
www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/transportation/july-dec01/
queens_11-12.html
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 1:52 am | #
They're all out of their minds and running scared. I've collected headlines and put to it brief commentary here:
what have you done with leslie, mr. murder?
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:54 am | #
mdnetter, what state are you in? probably a stupid question.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:55 am | #
I'm familiar with the crash, that wasn't what I was looking for. I was looking for your solid evidence that it was terrorism.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 1:55 am | #
hey agave, are you going to be able to make it to the fair?
Olaf glad and big
Incog - well, piss is loaded with ammonia, which can be used with a variety of other substances to make things go "boom".
Jennifer
good point, charcoal, sulfer, boom.
charley |
08.12.06 - 1:56 am | #
never mind mdnetter. checked your homepage. i thought perhaps you were from the land of mary.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 1:56 am | #
The media never demanded a full accounting of the incident...
They were to busy doing all terror, all the time. A mere accident wasn't enough to get their attention.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 1:56 am | #
hey agave, are you going to be able to make it to the fair?
Olaf glad and big
Is "pie tent" slang for furburger?
Lyle Pootwanger | 08.12.06 - 2:00 am | #
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believe it or not, it is an actual tent where the methodist ladies of albuquerque display and presumably sell their pies during the new mexico state fair.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 2:02 am | #
woo hoo! that methodist ladies pie tent is never going to be the same.
Olaf glad and big
why, what are you going to do to the pie tent?
jebus, not only do we have to worry about the alabama petting zoo,
You're right, that's not credible.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 2:04 am | #
I was watching the CNN and MSNBC channels a lot at the time, a caller for one of the news networks said they heard "a loud explosion" and the network showed smoke from facility.
Right afterward Canada had some sting operations go through. The IC probably got its act together after such prompting.
What i saw and heard in live time was never really followed, my lying eyes and ears later heard that a tree in ohio caused the multistate blackout.
Ohio's good about putting one over on the country like that I guess. The original story was that lightening caused it fromt he Canada side, yet NORAD showed none in the region on the radar for the day and date, i compared it on the local broadcasts of my news weather...
The Fair and balanced Eschaton links a Palast story for some British folks who did an enron-type scheme for the nine mile point facility. COnsidering the Energy Task Force and ties to the Downing Minutes I'll consider it a conspiratorial effort of fraud.
Could have been worse but the initial accounts didn't match the narrative later developed.
Why did the lighteneing report not match NORAD views?
Would the material be black smoke along the lines of incendiaries or ignited materials for homemade bombs?
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 2:06 am | #
john bolton, and all true christians, deplore the senselessness of the genocide in Darfur. so too the Pope, Bono, and an army of guilty liberal jewish teens in the United States. Nick Kristoff too.
and yet the c-130s full of water and MREs are where, exactly? what would be the cost, per US taxpayer, to end the ethnic cleansing in Sudan? don't know, but I bet John Bolton does.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 2:06 am | #
believe it or not, it is an actual tent where the methodist ladies of albuquerque display and presumably sell their pies during the new mexico state fair.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:02 am | #
I must need to get laid.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:07 am | #
john bolton, and all true christians, deplore the senselessness of the genocide in Darfur. so too the Pope, Bono, and an army of guilty liberal jewish teens in the United States. Nick Kristoff too.
and yet the c-130s full of water and MREs are where, exactly? what would be the cost, per US taxpayer, to end the ethnic cleansing in Sudan? don't know, but I bet John Bolton does.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | 08.12.06 - 2:06 am | #
Ending the senseless slaughter in Sudan sounds like a job for Arab Muslims. Maybe they ought to get on it. Nobody can stop it but them.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:12 am | #
randar is an idjut
Nûr al-Cubicle |
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08.12.06 - 2:13 am | #
Ending the senseless slaughter in Sudan sounds like a job for Arab Muslims. Maybe they ought to get on it. Nobody can stop it but them.
Lyle Pootwanger | 08.12.06 - 2:12 am | #
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smart thinking. we could have saved ourselves a lot of trouble by putting the germans in charge of ending the senseless slaughter of jews in europe also.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 2:15 am | #
Larry C. Ford was the Anthrax mailer. He worked in South Africa, was reportedly an intel asset at a time. He bragged of doing biowarfare experiments on apartheid interns.
He was in DC when the Anthrax mailings occurred, he did paid lobby work there.
He had a contact at the MD lab most likely thought to be the source of the spores used, probably switched strains.
He shot self shortly afterwards, he had a half dozen patents for bio items. It's suspected he tried to kill a patent holder coworker to improve his share. The guy was shot in the face from behind while going to their work.
The man died of self inflicted wounds after a police interview.
His house was a collection of bioweapons, toxins, exposures. He buried items in a backyard pool, he worked at UCLA wand is suspected of using women in the Gynecology school as guinea pigs. Also it's thought he may have tried the same as insurance fraud on signifigant others, former coworkers or dates of female persuasion.
He wanted to create a pigment based toxin for use against non caucasians. Hewas at a time placed in/near troops in Desert Storm One as well for testing countertoxins or to test sample controls on our troops.
My old drive had more info on him...
he was not a pretty character and did the world a favor leaving except for possible testimony towards any of his other actions or associates. He even kept biotoxins in the food refridgerator at work to try and test occasional exposures on coworkers.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 2:18 am | #
randar doesn't give a flying fuck what terrorist sympathizers think. This isn't a soccer game, fuckwad. If you think it is, head off to Beirut and play the game instead of sitting safely at home writing about it. You're as bad as the Goopers who want to send somebody else's kids to some other country to die for cheap oil.
randar |
08.12.06 - 2:19 am | #
Did anyone thank dith for Ned Lamont's win? WHat about Scwha or Petzold?
Payroll goons, all of them.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 2:20 am | #
I believe that the verdict was overload cascade, courtesy of an under maintained and unmodernized Ohio grid. The terrorism thing was a no-go from the get-go.
One thing is for certain, it is impossible that there was a hit at Beck. The first problem was 12:15 in Ohio. The first effects were felt in Michigan at 4. Ontario takes the hit just after that. Meanwhile the Beck station protection systems actualy kept a portion of the Peninsula online througout the blackout, and the other parts closest to Beck only lost power for a couple of hours.
It may have been the only time in history where people actually wished that they were in Dunnville.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 2:21 am | #
He had a contact at the MD lab most likely thought to be the source of the spores used, probably switched strains.
-mr. murder
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that's a funny thing. this "md lab"- which is thought to be the source of that strain of anthrax- is not really a "md lab" at all. it is fort dietrich, which is a u.s. army facility.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 2:22 am | #
a caller for one of the news networks said they heard "a loud explosion" and the network showed smoke from facility.
Ever actually seen a transformer blow up?
Pretty spectacular.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 2:22 am | #
smart thinking. we could have saved ourselves a lot of trouble by putting the germans in charge of ending the senseless slaughter of jews in europe also.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:15 am | #
The Muslim world seems to know how to solve every other problem -- I guess I just assumed they'd know what to do about genocidal Arab Muslims in Sudam.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:23 am | #
smart thinking. we could have saved ourselves a lot of trouble by putting the germans in charge of ending the senseless slaughter of jews in europe also.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:15 am | #
The Muslim world seems to know how to solve every other problem -- I guess I just assumed they'd know what to do about genocidal Arab Muslims in Sudam.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:23 am | #
An old amigo of ¡El Gato Negro!'s used to tell thees funny story about Kerrey, Debra Winger, a mattress, and a staircase, that always had em' rolling een the aisles.
calling fort dietrich a "md lab" is like calling the pentagon a "va office building". just saying.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 2:24 am | #
But a power line in Ohio caused it.
'Official' story.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 2:24 am | #
Ending the senseless slaughter in Sudan sounds like a job for Arab Muslims. Maybe they ought to get on it. Nobody can stop it but them.
I bet Milosevic, or Olmert, or Bush, could stop it, if "he" really put his mind to it.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 2:25 am | #
I thought his contact was a subcontractor of some sort...
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 2:26 am | #
Palast's piece on the Enron scammers for the New York power blackouts is rather good.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 2:32 am | #
Ending the senseless slaughter in Sudan sounds like a job for Arab Muslims. Maybe they ought to get on it. Nobody can stop it but them.
I bet Milosevic, or Olmert, or Bush, could stop it, if "he" really put his mind to it.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | 08.12.06 - 2:25 am | #
I doubt they could stop it. None of them has ever done anything right, unless you call murder right. Again; why don't the people who are doing it stop it? They think it's wrong when someone kills them for no apparent good reason, so why don't they see that they are killing Africans for no good reason and KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF without having to have it pointed out to them? No one's defending Israelis or the US or anyone else -- I just want to know where the righteousness is in killing hundreds of thousands of people because they happen to be black, and because they're taking up space?
Why is that supposed to be right, and why should the people who claim to have given birth to civilization have to have it pointed out to them that it ISN'T right?
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:32 am | #
I would prefer you not mention the fact that the Sky Gods are fighting and throwing things all over everything right now. It's very loud, very bright, very wet and I. Do. Not. Like. It.
'Enkew.
Arthur J. GWPDA |
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08.12.06 - 2:34 am | #
Transformers? I got your transformers right here.
Neff, WalterNeff |
08.12.06 - 2:37 am | #
Why is that supposed to be right, and why should the people who claim to have given birth to civilization have to have it pointed out to them that it ISN'T right?
Lyle Pootwanger
This wanker Lyle has no clue what is taking place in Darfur. Must be on the Randall Terry payroll.
Nûr al-Cubicle |
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08.12.06 - 2:42 am | #
And I thougt I wAS DRUNCK!
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agave | 08.12.06 - 2:38 am | #
If you think that killing people just because they're black is defensible, then it doesn't matter whether you're drunk or not, because you're just plain evil. If you are, then if the world is lucky you'll drink yourself to death before you get to cause any real harm, assuming you haven't already.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:42 am | #
how many displaced Sudanese by fed by the cost of one cluster bomb? or are Lebanese children more worthy of death, on a per/person cost/benefit ratio, than Sudanese children, or Iraqi children.
lyle raise a good point, one we should all be concerned about. where might American munitions best kill innocent infants, on a cost per death basis. my bet is Lebanon is where the real profits, so to speak, are to be had. at least in this fiscal quarter.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 2:42 am | #
Eees veeery guhd. Palast writes like he doesn't neeed no stinkin' editor. Eeeet eeees veeeery refreshing.
Mr.Murder |
08.12.06 - 2:42 am | #
What joo need ees to climb up on GWPDA's lap, and get a beeeeg hug, eh?
That weel make eet all better.
Can I get one for sitting on a pair of scissors and having a 2" hole in my right buttock?
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 2:43 am | #
This wanker Lyle has no clue what is taking place in Darfur. Must be on the Randall Terry payroll.
Nûr al-Cubicle | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:42 am | #
Tasini is challenging Hillary for the Democratic nomination for Senate on Sept. 12. It is urgent that you pass out these flyers and get the word out for Tasini.
He's a true progessive who is 100% against the dealth penatly, he wants to pull our troops out of Iraq NOW, and he supports a single payer healthcare system. Hillary Clinton is against all of these ideas. She's wrong on the issues, and she's wrong for New York.
Betty35 |
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08.12.06 - 2:45 am | #
It's funny, but people who say "enlighten me" never actually seem to listen to anyone...they almost seem to be incapable of it, in fact.
Just something I've noticed over the years.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 2:48 am | #
He had a contact at the MD lab most likely thought to be the source of the spores used, probably switched strains.
- The anthrax used in the attacks had not been seperated from USAMRIID for more than 3 years. That does not mean that they came from there. Only four labs (plus USAMRIID) have actually been sequenced. The Porton Down/Kleim strain was an identical match to USAMRIID.
-"The strains were switched" doesn't fly. That Porton Down strain matched the USAMRIID strain exactly. It's been on ice as a reference strain for years, it's supposed to match exactly.
- Ford was working with the S Africans. Those were more than 3 years from the reference strain.
-You assert that he had some connection that had access to the reference strain at USAMRIID. Got any names or evidence for that?
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 2:49 am | #
how many displaced Sudanese by fed by the cost of one cluster bomb? or are Lebanese children more worthy of death, on a per/person cost/benefit ratio, than Sudanese children, or Iraqi children.
lyle raise a good point, one we should all be concerned about. where might American munitions best kill innocent infants, on a cost per death basis. my bet is Lebanon is where the real profits, so to speak, are to be had. at least in this fiscal quarter.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | 08.12.06 - 2:42 am | #
Never wonder why the world thinks that killing militants is the only way to stop them.
Whatever credibility you ever had with me, you lost it forever tonight.
If killing is wrong, then it's wrong.
If you support anti-war candidates, then you need to be anti-war, too.
You're just a hypocrite and a curbstone lawyer, and you're not very good at either. (Considering who you named yourself after, though, why should I be surprised?)
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:49 am | #
You're just a hypocrite and a curbstone lawyer, and you're not very good at either.
You hear that? You're not very good at being a hypocrite, Mrs. I. My condolences.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 2:51 am | #
Just something I've noticed over the years.
Phila | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:48 am | #
And thus you escape the responsibility of even trying to tell me why it's right to commit genocide under any flag, for any reason.....
I expected better from you, given your record.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:52 am | #
....under desk, paws over ears....
Arthur J. GWPDA
Pussy..
er, wait.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 2:52 am | #
And thus you escape the responsibility of even trying to tell me why it's right
Hey, you stupid unclefucker.
No one here ever said it was right.
Now blow me.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 2:53 am | #
I expected better from you, given your record.
Lyle Pootwanger | 08.12.06 - 2:52 am | #
And what record is that?
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 2:54 am | #
Now blow me.
JR, kerosene and a match | 08.12.06 - 2:53 am | #
No, you're going to have to continue to get teenaged boys to do that for you, as always.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:55 am | #
Whatever credibility you ever had with me, you lost it forever tonight.
and your "megaphone " pals too, I hope. but it is great, grand, and glorious that Eschaton has stepped up in the world, with a better, more educated brand of trolls. Darfur, its the new BIOFUELS.
nice try, shill. and the Whatever credibility you ever had with me line is priceless. I feel your concern for my opinion. really, I do.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 2:55 am | #
Oh, look. Now I'm Lyle Pootwanger.
Who will I be next?
dipshit |
08.12.06 - 2:57 am | #
And what record is that?
Phila | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:54 am |
Seeming to have an IQ higher than the room temperature at the local Wal-Mart.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:57 am | #
hello all - what's up?
I see the kitties are still on their red chair. They looove that chair.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 2:57 am | #
phila
my hypocrisy class is really not as good as I had hoped. underfunded teachers, poor classroom preps, etc. I will try to acheive lyle's expected level as soon as possible.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 2:57 am | #
No, you're going to have to continue to get teenaged boys to do that for you, as always.
Lyle Pootwanger | 08.12.06 - 2:55 am | #
Seeming to have an IQ higher than the room temperature at the local Wal-Mart.
Lyle Pootwanger | 08.12.06 - 2:57 am | #
Hmmm. And you know this how?
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 2:58 am | #
Oh, look. Now I'm dipshit. Who will I be next?
Toby Petzold |
08.12.06 - 2:59 am | #
That's, like, totally harsh.
Phila
It's what his sister-mother taught him to say.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 2:59 am | #
oh no, not another one.
bring out the poetry!
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 2:59 am | #
hello all - what's up?
My buttock hurts. Other than that, not much.
He Whose Name is Legion is trying to pretend he cares about Darfur. I'm thinking of taking some codeine and reading for a bit.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 2:59 am | #
Hmmm. And you know this how?
Phila | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:58 am | #
I don't know it; I said it seemed so.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 2:59 am | #
lyle is VERY familiar with the temperature and humidity in Wal-Mart.
explains so much.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 3:01 am | #
bring out the poetry!
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 2:59 am | #
Visible, invisible,
a fluctuating charm
an amber-tinted amethyst
inhabits it, your arm
approaches and it opens
and it closes; you had meant
to catch it and it quivers;
you abandon your intent.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:02 am | #
The seagulls by their looks suggest
that Emma is their name;
they wear a white and fluffy vest
and are the hunter's game.
I never shoot a seagull dead;
their life I do not take.
I like to feed them gingerbread
and bits of raisin cake.
O human, you will never fly
the way the seagulls do;
but if your name is Emma, why,
be glad they look like you.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:03 am | #
We blame it on the meth, he wasn't like this when he was little. But then, there WAS that incident with the goat.
Toby Petzolds Mom |
08.12.06 - 3:03 am | #
It's what his sister-mother taught him to say.
JR, kerosene and a match | 08.12.06 - 2:59 am | #
If that was indeed where I heard it, it wouldn't change the truth of the statement at all.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:04 am | #
The panther is just like a leopard
except that it hasn't been peppered.
Should you behold a panther crouch
prepare to say ouch.
Better yet, if called by a panther
don't anther.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:05 am | #
I'm sorry you don't feel well. Did you really sit on scissors?
I was always having accidents around my mother's sewing equitpment as a kid. My sister and I would try to sew & drop needles into the carpet. Then we'd step on the needles which lodged in that awful 70s era shag.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:05 am | #
Across a continent imaginary
Because it cannot be discovered now
Upon this fully apprehended planet--
No more applicants considered,
Alas, alas--
Ran an animal unzoological,
Without a fate, without a fact,
Its private history intact
Against the travesty
Of an anatomy.
Not visible not invisible,
Removed by dayless night,
Did it ever fly its ground
Out of fancy into light,
Into space to replace
Its unwritable decease?
Ah, the minutes twinkle in and out
And in and out come and go
One by one, none by none,
What we know, what we don't know.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:05 am | #
Why?
Phila | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 3:02 am | #
God, I hope you're nobody's shrink....
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:06 am | #
it wouldn't change the truth of the statement at all.
No, it wouldn't. Still zero, like the rest of your dribble.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:06 am | #
....under desk, paws over ears....
Arthur J. GWPDA
Pussy..
er, wait.
JR, kerosene and a match
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............. say that to my face, buddy, just try it......
Arthur J. GWPDA |
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08.12.06 - 3:07 am | #
I'm sorry you don't feel well. Did you really sit on scissors?
Yep. With my full weight. It went in almost two inches. I'm lucky it got me where it did, as I could've done some real damage.
It's bandaged up, and they gave me a tetanus shot and some codeine. So I'm not doing so badly.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:08 am | #
If the trolls don't go away - I'm bringing out the heavy guns --
Language poetry!
Eeeeekkkkk! Runaway!
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:08 am | #
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............. say that to my face, buddy, just try it......
Arthur J. GWPDA
I'll send my cat over to say it to your face...
He's not cowering under the bed because of a little violent thunderstorm.....
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:09 am | #
God, I hope you're nobody's shrink....
Lyle Pootwanger | 08.12.06 - 3:06 am | #
Everyone here is your shrink.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:09 am | #
Across a continent imaginary
Because it cannot be discovered now
Upon this fully apprehended planet--
No more applicants considered,
Alas, alas--
Ran an animal unzoological,
Without a fate, without a fact,
Its private history intact
Against the travesty
Of an anatomy.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:10 am | #
It's bandaged up, and they gave me a tetanus shot and some codeine. So I'm not doing so badly.
Phila
One the bright side, you won't need another tetanus shot for at least ten years.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:10 am | #
It's bandaged up, and they gave me a tetanus shot and some codeine. So I'm not doing so badly.
Phila
oh - I'm so sorry. It's good you got the tetanus shot, though, and the codeine.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:10 am | #
Not visible not invisible,
Removed by dayless night,
Did it ever fly its ground
Out of fancy into light,
Into space to replace
Its unwritable decease?
Ah, the minutes twinkle in and out
And in and out come and go
One by one, none by none,
What we know, what we don't know.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:10 am | #
it wouldn't change the truth of the statement at all.
No, it wouldn't. Still zero, like the rest of your dribble.
JR, kerosene and a match | 08.12.06 - 3:06 am | #
Aw, your heart's not in it.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:11 am | #
One the bright side, you won't need another tetanus shot for at least ten years.
JR, kerosene and a match | 08.12.06 - 3:10 am | #
It'd been...let's see...a bit over twenty years since my last one.
It's funny, actually. I almost went in and got one just the other day, because I was taking apart a ruined, filthy Victrola and I jammed a screwdriver into my palm...
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:12 am | #
The ant has made himself illustrious
Through constant industry industrious.
So what?
Would you be calm and placid
If you were full of formic acid?
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:13 am | #
Everyone here is your shrink.
Phila | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 3:09 am |
Well, if that were true, and you couldn't fix me, then this would just go on, and on, and on..........
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:13 am | #
oh - I'm so sorry. It's good you got the tetanus shot, though, and the codeine.
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 3:10 am | #
And provided a bit of amusement for the nurses, right at the end of their work week.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:13 am | #
CLOUD-PUFFBALL, torn tufts, tossed pillows ' flaunt forth, then chevy on an air-
built thoroughfare: heaven-roysterers, in gay-gangs ' they throng; they glitter in marches.
Down roughcast, down dazzling whitewash, ' wherever an elm arches,
Shivelights and shadowtackle in long ' lashes lace, lance, and pair.
Delightfully the bright wind boisterous ' ropes, wrestles, beats earth bare 5
Of yestertempest’s creases; in pool and rut peel parches
Squandering ooze to squeezed ' dough, crust, dust; stanches, starches
Squadroned masks and manmarks ' treadmire toil there
Footfretted in it. Million-fuelèd, ' nature’s bonfire burns on.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:15 am | #
I won't inflict the lanugage poetry on you all, since it looks like the infestation is fading -- but I love this title of Bruce Andrews's I Don't Have Any Paper So Shut Up (or, Social Romanticism)
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In other news - it looks like the French manouvered a cease fire - which will be a good thing, if it holds.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:16 am | #
And provided a bit of amusement for the nurses
Well, that's OK then.
But try not to make the doctor that's stitching you up laugh.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:16 am | #
And provided a bit of amusement for the nurses
Well, that's OK then.
But try not to make the doctor that's stitching you up laugh.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:16 am | #
Away grief’s gasping, ' joyless days, dejection.
Across my foundering deck shone
A beacon, an eternal beam.
Flesh fade, and mortal trash
Fall to the residuary worm; ' world’s wildfire, leave but ash: In a flash, at a trumpet crash,
I am all at once what Christ is, ' since he was what I am, and
This Jack, joke, poor potsherd, ' patch, matchwood, immortal diamond,
Is immortal diamond.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:17 am | #
Fading? Oh, no....just changing:
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My bed is covered yellow - Oh Sun, I sit on you
Oh golden field I lay on you
Oh money I dream of you
More, More, cried the bed - talk to me more -
Oh bed that taked the weight of the world -
all the lost dreams laid on you
Oh bed that grows no hair, that cannot be fucked
or can be fucked
Oh bed crumbs of all ages spiled on you
Oh yellow bed march to the sun whear yr journey will be done
Oh 50 lbs. of bed that takes 400 more lbs-
how strong you are
Oh bed, only for man & not for animals
yellow bed when will the animals have equal rights?
Oh 4 legged bed off the floor forever built
Oh yellow bed all the news of the world
lay on you at one time or another
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:17 am | #
why does Lyle hate black babies? is he guilty of racist thoughts, and wants to project his racism onto Sudanese janjaweed killers? or is it displacement, the targeting of civilians by the IDF using American munitions allowing him to vent his anger upon the civilians targeted by the Sudanese.
my money is on a concern "megaphone" user with no ethics whatsoever.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.12.06 - 3:18 am | #
I was taking apart a ruined, filthy Victrola and I jammed a screwdriver into my palm...
Phila
You are not having good luck, my friend.
The worst puncture wound I got was from my cat when he ran over my feet. We were playing chase me-catch me, and it ended badly.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:18 am | #
I won't inflict the lanugage poetry on you all, since it looks like the infestation is fading
Fall to the residuary worm; ' world’s wildfire, leave but ash: In a flash, at a trumpet crash,
That's fun - who is it?
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:20 am | #
You are not having good luck, my friend.
Well, when I think how easily I could've gotten the scissors in, say, the perineum, I'm not at all inclined to complain.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:20 am | #
That's fun - who is it?
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 3:20 am | #
Gerard Manley Hopkins, "That Nature is a Heraclitean Fire and of the comfort of the Resurrection"
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:20 am | #
Fading? Oh, no.....just changing:
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Make my grave shape of heart so like a flower be free aired& handsome felt,
Grave root pillow, tung up from grave & wiggle at blown up clowd.
Ear turnes close to underlayer of green felt moss & sound of rain dribble thru this layer down to the roots that will tickle my ear.
Hay grave, my toes need cutting so file away in sound curve or
Garbage grave, way above my head, blood will soon trickle in my ear -
no choise but the grave, so cat & sheep are daisey turned.
Train will tug my grave, my breath hueing gentil vapor between weel & track.
So kitten string & ball, jumpe over this mound so gently & cutely
So my toe can curl & become a snail & go curiousely on its way.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:21 am | #
my money is on a concern "megaphone" user with no ethics whatsoever.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
I don't understand why they come here -- but poetry seems to work as troll repellant.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:21 am | #
He's not cowering under the bed because of a little violent thunderstorm.....
JR, kerosene and a match
Yeah, he's not trying to type while the Sky Gods shout and throw lightning bolts either. Pussy....
Arthur J. GWPDA |
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08.12.06 - 3:22 am | #
This ocean, humiliating in its disguises
Tougher than anything.
No one listens to poetry. The ocean
Does not mean to be listened to. A drop
Or crash of water. It means
Nothing.
It
Is bread and butter
Pepper and salt. The death
That young men hope for. Aimlessly
It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No
One listens to poetry.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:23 am | #
Well, when I think how easily I could've gotten the scissors in, say, the perineum,
Yeah, he's not trying to type while the Sky Gods shout and throw lightning bolts either. Pussy....
Arthur J. GWPDA
No, the little bastard is usually trying to type when I'm trying to type, in between beating up the dog (who doesn't cower during thunderstorms, either).
And yes, he is a pussy.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:24 am | #
Your brains went black when she took back her love and put it out into the sun
The birds did fly when the heavens all went dry and the cigarettes were smoking by themselves
She’ll do anything
She’ll do anything
She’ll do anything
To make you feel like an asshole
Call her name
She looks the same as you
Question marks stretched across her skin
She dangles carrots
Makes you feel embarrassed
To be the fool you know you are
She’ll do anything
She’ll do anything
She’ll do anything
To make you feel like an asshole
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:25 am | #
It
Is bread and butter
Pepper and salt. The death
That young men hope for. Aimlessly
It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No
One listens to poetry.
That rocks! Who is it?
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:26 am | #
It
Is bread and butter
Pepper and salt. The death
That young men hope for. Aimlessly
It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No
One listens to poetry.
That rocks! Who is it?
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:26 am | #
but poetry seems to work as troll repellant.
geoduck
Ah, good...
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee.
Now Sam McGee was from Tennessee, where the cotton blooms and blows.
Why he left his home in the South to roam 'round the Pole, God only knows.
He was always cold, but the land of gold seemed to hold him like a spell;
Though he'd often say in his homely way that he'd "sooner live in hell".
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:27 am | #
On a Christmas Day we were mushing our way over the Dawson trail.
Talk of your cold! through the parka's fold it stabbed like a driven nail.
If our eyes we'd close, then the lashes froze till sometimes we couldn't see;
It wasn't much fun, but the only one to whimper was Sam McGee.
And that very night, as we lay packed tight in our robes beneath the snow,
And the dogs were fed, and the stars o'erhead were dancing heel and toe,
He turned to me, and "Cap," says he, "I'll cash in this trip, I guess;
And if I do, I'm asking that you won't refuse my last request."
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:27 am | #
Well, he seemed so low that I couldn't say no; then he says with a sort of moan:
"It's the cursed cold, and it's got right hold till I'm chilled clean through to the bone.
Yet 'tain't being dead -- it's my awful dread of the icy grave that pains;
So I want you to swear that, foul or fair, you'll cremate my last remains."
A pal's last need is a thing to heed, so I swore I would not fail;
And we started on at the streak of dawn; but God! he looked ghastly pale.
He crouched on the sleigh, and he raved all day of his home in Tennessee;
And before nightfall a corpse was all that was left of Sam McGee.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:27 am | #
Isn't my heart holy, more full of life's beauty,
since I fell in love? Why did you like me more
when I was prouder and wilder, more full
of words, yet emptier?
Well, the crowd likes whatever sells in the
marketplace; and no one but a slave
appreciates violent men. Only those who
are themselves godlike believe in the gods.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:28 am | #
There wasn't a breath in that land of death, and I hurried, horror-driven,
With a corpse half hid that I couldn't get rid, because of a promise given;
It was lashed to the sleigh, and it seemed to say:
"You may tax your brawn and brains,
But you promised true, and it's up to you to cremate those last remains."
Now a promise made is a debt unpaid, and the trail has its own stern code.
In the days to come, though my lips were dumb, in my heart how I cursed that load.
In the long, long night, by the lone firelight, while the huskies, round in a ring,
Howled out their woes to the homeless snows -- O God! how I loathed the thing.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:28 am | #
That rocks! Who is it?
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 3:26 am | #
Jack Spicer.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:28 am | #
And every day that quiet clay seemed to heavy and heavier grow;
And on I went, though the dogs were spent and the grub was getting low;
The trail was bad, and I felt half mad, but I swore I would not give in;
And I'd often sing to the hateful thing, and it hearkened with a grin.
Till I came to the marge of Lake Lebarge, and a derelict there lay;
It was jammed in the ice, but I saw in a trice it was called the "Alice May".
And I looked at it, and I thought a bit, and I looked at my frozen chum;
Then "Here," said I, with a sudden cry, "is my cre-ma-tor-eum."
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:28 am | #
Some planks I tore from the cabin floor, and I lit the boiler fire;
Some coal I found that was lying around, and I heaped the fuel higher;
The flames just soared, and the furnace roared -- such a blaze you seldom see;
And I burrowed a hole in the glowing coal, and I stuffed in Sam McGee.
Then I made a hike, for I didn't like to hear him sizzle so;
And the heavens scowled, and the huskies howled, and the wind began to blow.
It was icy cold, but the hot sweat rolled down my cheeks, and I don't know why;
And the greasy smoke in an inky cloak went streaking down the sky.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:29 am | #
do not know how long in the snow I wrestled with grisly fear;
But the stars came out and they danced about ere again I ventured near;
I was sick with dread, but I bravely said: "I'll just take a peep inside.
I guess he's cooked, and it's time I looked"; . . . then the door I opened wide.
And there sat Sam, looking cool and calm, in the heart of the furnace roar;
And he wore a smile you could see a mile, and he said: "Please close that door.
It's fine in here, but I greatly fear you'll let in the cold and storm --
Since I left Plumtree, down in Tennessee, it's the first time I've been warm."
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:29 am | #
We'd been flying all day long at a hundred fucking feet;
The weather fucking awful, fucking rain and fucking sleet;
The compass it was swinging fucking south and fucking north;
But we made a fucking landfall in the Firth of Fucking Forth.
Ain't the Air Force fucking awful?
Ain't the Air Force fucking awful?
Ain't the Air Force fucking awful?
We made a fucking landfall in the Firth of Fucking Forth.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:31 am | #
We'd been flying all day long at a hundred fucking feet;
The weather fucking awful, fucking rain and fucking sleet;
The compass it was swinging fucking south and fucking north;
But we made a fucking landfall in the Firth of Fucking Forth.
Ain't the Air Force fucking awful?
Ain't the Air Force fucking awful?
Ain't the Air Force fucking awful?
We made a fucking landfall in the Firth of Fucking Forth.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:31 am | #
No, the little bastard is usually trying to type when I'm trying to type, in between beating up the dog (who doesn't cower during thunderstorms, either).
That's it. I'm coming after you.....
Arthur J. GWPDA |
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08.12.06 - 3:31 am | #
That's it. I'm coming after you.....
Arthur J. GWPDA
I'll save you a steak, but could you pick up some Fancy Feast on the way over. The local door ward has retractable claws.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:33 am | #
Well, the crowd likes whatever sells in the
marketplace; and no one but a slave
appreciates violent men. Only those who
are themselves godlike believe in the gods.
Phila
Is this also Spicer?
I like the marketplace line and the "no one but a slave appreciates violent men." I wonder if I agree about the "godlike believe in the gods part."
Certainly a slave would be most wary of a violent man, because a slave would appreciate the use of violence in maintaining slavery.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:34 am | #
I can't quite find the right thing to fit the mood -- but I do like this Susan Howe:
Emily Dickinson once wrote to Thomas Wentworth Higginson; "Candor--my Preceptor--is the only wile." This is the right way to put it.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:36 am | #
Friday nights always did get a little odd in here.
Peeperkorn Unbound |
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08.12.06 - 3:37 am | #
I was angry with my friend:
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe:
I told it not, my wrath did grow.
And I watered it in fears
Night and morning with my tears,
And I sunned it with smiles
And with soft deceitful wiles.
And it grew both day and night,
Till it bore an apple bright,
And my foe beheld it shine,
And he knew that it was mine -
And into my garden stole
When the night had veiled the pole;
In the morning, glad, I see
My foe outstretched beneath the tree.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:37 am | #
O rose, thou art sick!
The invisible worm,
That flies in the night,
In the howling storm,
Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy,
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:38 am | #
Every Emily Dickinson poem can be sung to the tune of "Yellow Rose of Texas."
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 3:39 am | #
In California During the Gulf War
Among the blight-killed eucalypts, among
trees and bushes rusted by Christmas frosts,
the yards and hillsides exhausted by five years of drought,
certain airy white blossoms punctually
reappeared, and dense clusters of pale pink, dark pink--
a delicate abundance. They seemed
like guests arriving joyfully on the accustomed
festival day, unaware of the year's events, not perceiving
the sackcloth others were wearing.
To some of us, the dejected landscape consorted well
with our shame and bitterness. Skies ever-blue,
daily sunshine, disgusted us like smile-buttons.
Yet the blossoms, clinging to thin branches
more lightly than birds alert for flight,
lifted the sunken heart
even against its will.
But not
as symbols of hope: they were flimsy
as our resistance to the crimes committed
--again, again--in our name; and yes, they return,
year after year, and yes, they briefly shone with serene joy
over against the dark glare
of evil days. They are, and their presence
is quietness ineffable--and the bombings are, were,
no doubt will be; that quiet, that huge cacophany
simultaneous. No promise was being accorded, the blossoms
were not doves, there was no rainbow. And when it was claimed
the war had ended, it had not ended.
Does the Eagle know what is in the pit?
Or wilt thou go ask the Mole?
Can Wisdom be put in a silver rod?
Or Love in a golden bowl?
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:40 am | #
Why are you posting Blake poems?
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 3:40 am | #
haloscan hates me.
But not
as symbols of hope: they were flimsy
as our resistance to the crimes committed
--again, again--in our name; and yes, they return,
year after year, and yes, they briefly shone with serene joy
over against the dark glare
of evil days. They are, and their presence
is quietness ineffable--and the bombings are, were,
no doubt will be; that quiet, that huge cacophany
simultaneous. No promise was being accorded, the blossoms
were not doves, there was no rainbow. And when it was claimed
the war had ended, it had not ended.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:41 am | #
Why are you posting Blake poems?
rorschach
Why not?
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:42 am | #
Would you prefer more Robert Service?
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:42 am | #
Another scratch, a whisper of a scrape
against a somewhat distant alleyway
and then movement from me - away,Away
AWAY - way away, I pray but a twitch
in the shadows a fleeting glimpse
perhaps?
or not.
what am I seeing? am I imagining this?
is nothing there?
or is it him. her. it. them.
are they relentless in their endless quest for me?
why do they mirror my every move
in every door to the side of every building?
smoking a cigarette and reading the paper not looking at anything.
seeing everything. especially me.
the bastards. who are devoid of mercy.
and have slain my will. and have stolen my hope. they will not quit.
for I am the hunted. I am their prey.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:43 am | #
Now Tomlinson gave up the ghost at his house in Berkeley Square,
And a Spirit came to his bedside and gripped him by the hair—
A Spirit gripped him by the hair and carried him far away,
Till he heard as the roar of a rain-fed ford the roar of the Milky Way:
Till he heard the roar of the Milky Way die down and drone and cease,
And they came to the Gate within the Wall where Peter holds the keys.
"Stand up, stand up now, Tomlinson, and answer loud and high
"The good that ye did for the sake of men or ever ye came to die—
"The good that ye did for the sake of men on the little Earth so lone!"
And the naked soul of Tomlinson grew white as the rain-washed bone.
"O I have a friend on Earth," he said, "that was my priest and guide,
"And well would he answer all for me if he were at my side."
—"For that ye strove in neighbour-love it shall be written fair,
"But now ye wait at Heaven's Gate and not in Berkeley Square:
"Though we called your friend from his bed this night, he could not speak for you,
"For the race is run by one and one and never by two and two."
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:43 am | #
Cool.
I's just curious, not critical.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 3:44 am | #
I can't quite find the right thing to fit the mood -- but I do like this Susan Howe:
Pleased to hear that. I like her a lot (though I like Fanny Howe even better).
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:44 am | #
"See," drummed the taut masks, "how the dead ascend:
In the groin's endless coil a man is tangled."
Peeperkorn Unbound |
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08.12.06 - 3:44 am | #
Then Tomlinson looked up and down, and little gain was there,
For the naked stars grinned overhead, and he saw that his soul was bare.
The Wind that blows between the Worlds, it cut him like a knife,
And Tomlinson took up the tale and spoke of his good in life.
"O this I have read in a book," he said, "and that was told to me,
"And this I have thought that another man thought of a Prince in Muscovy."
The good souls flocked like homing doves and bade him clear the path,
And Peter twirled the jangling Keys in weariness and wrath.
"Ye have read, ye have heard, ye have thought," he said, "and the tale is yet to run:
"By the worth of the body that once ye had, give answer—what ha' ye done?"
Then Tomlinson looked back and forth, and little good it bore,
For the darkness stayed at his shoulder-blade and Heaven's Gate before:—
"O this I have felt, and this I have guessed, and this I heard men say,
"And this they wrote that another man wrote of a carl in Norroway."
"Ye have read, ye have felt, ye have guessed, good lack! Ye have hampered Heaven's Gate;
"There's little room between the stars in idleness to prate!
"For none may reach by hired speech of neighbour, priest, and kin
"Through borrowed deed to God's good meed that lies so fair within;
"Get hence, get hence to the Lord of Wrong, for thy doom has yet to run,
"And . . . the faith that ye share with Berkeley Square uphold you, Tomlinson!"
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:44 am | #
Then Tomlinson looked up and down, and little gain was there,
For the naked stars grinned overhead, and he saw that his soul was bare.
The Wind that blows between the Worlds, it cut him like a knife,
And Tomlinson took up the tale and spoke of his good in life.
"O this I have read in a book," he said, "and that was told to me,
"And this I have thought that another man thought of a Prince in Muscovy."
The good souls flocked like homing doves and bade him clear the path,
And Peter twirled the jangling Keys in weariness and wrath.
"Ye have read, ye have heard, ye have thought," he said, "and the tale is yet to run:
"By the worth of the body that once ye had, give answer—what ha' ye done?"
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:45 am | #
We made a fucking landfall in the Firth of Fucking Forth.
Phila
ah Phila - you'll make me lazy. I'll never have to look up another author.
Then Tomlinson looked back and forth, and little good it bore,
For the darkness stayed at his shoulder-blade and Heaven's Gate before:—
"O this I have felt, and this I have guessed, and this I heard men say,
"And this they wrote that another man wrote of a carl in Norroway."
"Ye have read, ye have felt, ye have guessed, good lack! Ye have hampered Heaven's Gate;
"There's little room between the stars in idleness to prate!
"For none may reach by hired speech of neighbour, priest, and kin
"Through borrowed deed to God's good meed that lies so fair within;
"Get hence, get hence to the Lord of Wrong, for thy doom has yet to run,
"And . . . the faith that ye share with Berkeley Square uphold you, Tomlinson!"
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:45 am | #
The Spirit gripped him by the hair, and sun by sun they fell
Till they came to the belt of Naughty Stars that rim the mouth of Hell.
The first are red with pride and wrath, the next are white with pain,
But the third are black with clinkered sin that cannot burn again.
They may hold their path, they may leave their path, with never a soul to mark:
They may burn or freeze, but they must not cease in the Scorn of the Outer Dark.
The Wind that blows between the Worlds, it nipped him to the bone,
And he yearned to the flare of Hell-gate there as the light of his own hearth-stone.
The Devil he sat behind the bars, where the desperate legions drew,
But he caught the hasting Tomlinson and would not let him through.
"Wot ye the price of good pit-coal that I must pay?" said he,
"That ye rank yoursel' so fit for Hell and ask no leave of me?
"I am all o'er-sib to Adam's breed that ye should give me scorn,
"For I strove with God for your First Father the day that he was born.
"Sit down, sit down upon the slag, and answer loud and high
"The harm that ye did to the Sons of Men or ever you came to die."
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:45 am | #
hope is an evil fucking whore
imbuing you with desire and cravings
for what appears so tangible and attainable
a fucking tease
yanking away as you clamp your teeth in the air
biting your tongue, tasting blood
fuckin forget about it you fuck
you'll have nothing and hate it
you're a loser and a source of amusement
for we who despise you
the world
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:46 am | #
I am having a horrible urge to post Roethke.
I will try to restrain myself.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:46 am | #
ah Phila - you'll make me lazy. I'll never have to look up another author.
The prolific "Anon."
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:46 am | #
Haloscan apparently dislikes Kipling.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:47 am | #
I am having a horrible urge to post Roethke.
I will try to restrain myself.
geoduck
I was thinking of Villon, myself.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:48 am | #
Okay, now I'm criticizing. This ain't conversation, this is self-indulgence. In other words, get your own blog if you want to post poetry incessantly.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 3:48 am | #
A word - you know:
a corpse.
Let us wash it,
let us comb it,
let us turn its eye
towards heaven.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:49 am | #
ror is right.
we should at least attempt to communicate.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:50 am | #
Mortified at the excess of my vengeance,
I die a horrific death
Choking on the ashes of my vanquished enemies
My unbounded hate and irreconcilable anger
killed us all
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 3:50 am | #
Okay, now I'm criticizing. This ain't conversation, this is self-indulgence. In other words, get your own blog if you want to post poetry incessantly.
rorschach
We were trying to drive off the troll.
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:50 am | #
There grows the hours' ladder to the sun,
Each rung a love or losing to the last,
The inches monkeyed by the blood of man.
An old, mad man still climbing in his ghost,
My fathers' ghost is climbing in the rain.
Peeperkorn Unbound |
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08.12.06 - 3:51 am | #
I should get some sleep, though
JR, kerosene and a match |
08.12.06 - 3:52 am | #
ror is right.
we should at least attempt to communicate.
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 3:50 am | #
Thank you.
We were trying to drive off the troll.
JR, kerosene and a match | 08.12.06 - 3:50 am | #
Do not become that which you hate.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 3:52 am | #
ror is right.
Not really.
we should at least attempt to communicate.
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 3:50 am | #
Lots of ways of going about that. Besides, we initially wanted to chase the troll away, and posting poetry is a time-honored way of doing that.
Unfortunately, jack thinks he knows something about it. So it just made matters worse.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 3:52 am | #
I must sleep.
later chiropterae.
JR, hating haloscan |
08.12.06 - 3:54 am | #
ror is right.
Not really.
we should at least attempt to communicate.
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 3:50 am | #
Lots of ways of going about that. Besides, we initially wanted to chase the troll away, and posting poetry is a time-honored way of doing that.
Unfortunately, jack thinks he knows something about it. So it just made matters worse.
Yeah, really, as your comment demonstrates.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 3:55 am | #
The state of politics & violence does lend itself to certain poems.
It's obscene and almost incommunicatable - this bizarre juxtaposition of living a everyday life against the backdrop of Bush fucking up Lebanon and the middle east.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 3:57 am | #
It's obscene and almost incommunicatable - this bizarre juxtaposition of living a everyday life against the backdrop of Bush fucking up Lebanon and the middle east.
geoduck | 08.12.06 - 3:57 am | #
Yeah, Death of a Ball-Turret Gunner springs immediately to mind.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 3:58 am | #
Nothing has moved in this town.
Nothing at all. Only the soundless dark
And the wonder of night that came like wind
Unseen have wandered down these final streets.
Only the silent have come upon this mark.
There is no town so quiet on any earth,
Nor any house so dark upon the mind.
Only the night is here, and the dead
Under the hard blind eyes of hill and tree.
Here lives sleep. Here the dead are free.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 4:01 am | #
The spider puzzles his legs and rests his web
On aftergrass. No winds stir here to break
The quiet design, nothing protests the weaving
Of taut threads in a ladder of silk:
He is clever, he is fastidious, and intricate;
He is skilled with his cords of hate.
Who can escape through the grass: The crane-fly
Quivers its body in paralytic sleep;
The giant moths shed their golden dust
From fettered wings, and the spider speeds his lust.
Who reads the language of direction? Where may we pass
Through the immense pattern sheer as glass?
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 4:02 am | #
What's happening unfortunately has a timeless quality that I thought the foregoing Dylan Thomas captured, though YMMV. Goodnight to anyone.
Peeperkorn Unbound |
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08.12.06 - 4:02 am | #
Yeah, really, as your comment demonstrates.
rorschach | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 3:55 am | #
Well, there's that, and then there's your own hostility of late, which one could argue is as self-indulgent as almost anything posted here.
I get pretty hostile myself, so I can relate. Still, it's not really about the poetry, is it?
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 4:02 am | #
Last night I ran a fox over.
A sudden brilliant flash of gold,
A setting sun of gilded fur
Appeared in my car's beam,
And then the fatal thump.
I asked the fox to forgive me.
He spat as he died,
I asked God to forgive me.
I don't believe He will.
Is there no pardon anywhere?
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 4:02 am | #
The political uses of the violence, mixed with the stupidity of those who rule us...
well, then it's time to talk about cats.
And I would like to note that Colbert did refer to the Kitten War blog site on his show.
geoduck |
08.12.06 - 4:03 am | #
Well, there's that, and then there's your own hostility of late, which one could argue is as self-indulgent as almost anything posted here.
I get pretty hostile myself, so I can relate. Still, it's not really about the poetry, is it?
Phila | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:02 am | #
My own hostility?
Ouch. That is rather unkind and hurtful.
Do I even belong here anymore?
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:04 am | #
My own hostility?
Ouch. That is rather unkind and hurtful.
Do I even belong here anymore?
I think that's for you to decide. Personally, I don't have any problem with you at all. You're one of my favorite people here, and always have been. I read everything you post, and learn a lot from you even on those rare occasions when I disagree with you.
However...yeah, I'd say you've been pretty hostile lately. IIRC, you said about a week ago that you felt alienated from the folks here. God knows I can understand that feeling, so I haven't taken it at all personally, though I'm getting a bit closer to it tonight....
If I'm mistaken, sorry. It's easy to misinterpret people in this format.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 4:09 am | #
I think the stress of trying to outwit us has made poot-wanker snap...
Another self-inflicted casualty to brighten up this lovely post-Lieberman weekend.
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TelltaleHeart |
08.12.06 - 4:10 am | #
There grows the hours' ladder to the sun,
Each rung a love or losing to the last,
The inches monkeyed by the blood of man.
An old, mad man still climbing in his ghost,
My fathers' ghost is climbing in the rain.
Peeperkorn Unbound | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 3:51 am | #
"peepercorn" reminds me of a tedious book i once read. it was called "the magic mountain". there was a character named peepercorn. peepercorn didn't do much of anything. nobody did. it was a really tedious book.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:10 am | #
I think that's for you to decide. Personally, I don't have any problem with you at all. You're one of my favorite people here, and always have been. I read everything you post, and learn a lot from you even on those rare occasions when I disagree with you.
Well, of course it is, and I'm glad to hear about your opinion of me.
I'm just rather perplexed about the hostility comment. As I mentioned before, I was just curious as to why people were only posting poetry, and then I became critical, but not hostile, at the lack of conversation.
Hell, I even mentioned a poem my own self, so I don't see how I was hostile to the thread.
The book was tedious, it's true.
Peeperkorn was incoherent too.
But he got the girl, you know.
Peeperkorn Unbound |
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08.12.06 - 4:14 am | #
"peepercorn" reminds me of a tedious book i once read. it was called "the magic mountain". there was a character named peepercorn. peepercorn didn't do much of anything. nobody did. it was a really tedious book.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:10 am | #
Man, I hate that novel. Also Buddenbrooks.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:14 am | #
I think the stress of trying to outwit us has made poot-wanker snap...
Oh, yes darling; yes.
I'll be back. I'll be someone else. And I'll continue to play the fools amongst you as if you were pianos.
It has always been so.
Lyle Pootwanger |
08.12.06 - 4:14 am | #
if i had been thomas mann's editor for the magic mountain project, i would have made him write more about the bad russians. that might have been interesting.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:14 am | #
I'll save you a steak, but could you pick up some Fancy Feast on the way over. The local door ward has retractable claws.
JR, kerosene and a match
I"d like a steak, 'enkew. What the hell is "Fancy Feast"?
Arthur J. GWPDA |
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08.12.06 - 4:17 am | #
Man, I hate that novel. Also Buddenbrooks.
rorschach | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:14 am | #
never read "buddenbrooks", and i will never again read anything by mann. i really thought "death in venice" was good though. that's why i trusted him enough to read the fucking zauberberg
all the way through.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:18 am | #
I'm just rather perplexed about the hostility comment.
Huh. Well, I don't know what to say. Perhaps I'm going mad. Could've sworn you'd made several fairly nasty comments to me in the last week. Maybe I'm losing my sense of humor. Or maybe I'm the one who's alienated. Beats me.
Anyway, if I'm wrong, my apologies. Like I said, it's easy to misinterpret people here.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 4:18 am | #
My favorite part of the book is the name Peeperkorn. Maybe the character. Nothing else stuck. And now I really am going to read something funner.
Peeperkorn Unbound |
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08.12.06 - 4:19 am | #
never read "buddenbrooks", and i will never again read anything by mann. i really thought "death in venice" was good though. that's why i trusted him enough to read the fucking zauberberg
all the way through.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:18 am | #
Yeah, don't read Buddenbrooks. And yeah, Death in Venice was inspired...
Could've sworn you'd made several fairly nasty comments to me in the last week.
Hell, you are one of my favorite people here too. I am sorry to have given offense.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:20 am | #
The Sky Gods have finally shut up, and the short hairy guy is exhausted enough to sleep, which means that I can too.
So, goodnight.
GWPDA, Too Sleepy |
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08.12.06 - 4:21 am | #
if someone came up and started talking a poem at you how would you know it was a poem?
In some sense, what we were doing was a different way to communicate. However, it was a different form then the blog ususally takes, unusual, and we had trolls in the mix mucking it up and making it harder to join in.
Yeah, Death of a Ball-Turret Gunner springs immediately to mind.
My Uncle was a ball turret gunner, he died in his sleep last year at 83.
My son Toby, however, sucks goat penis.
Toby Petzolds Mom |
08.12.06 - 4:24 am | #
My favorite part of the book is the name Peeperkorn. Maybe the character. Nothing else stuck. And now I really am going to read something funner.
Peeperkorn Unbound | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:19 am | #
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read dostoeyevsky. better stories and even better names, if you're into names.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:25 am | #
and peeperkorn, if you want to stick with people who are fun who wrote in german, i would recommend franz kafka. his work is absolutely hilarious. douglas adams wishes he was as funny as kafka.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:29 am | #
read dostoeyevsky. better stories and even better names, if you're into names.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:25 am | #
Yeah, it's weird that the main character of Crime and Punishment has the exact same name as our present pope!
Dostoevski was prescient.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:30 am | #
and peeperkorn, if you want to stick with people who are fun who wrote in german, i would recommend franz kafka. his work is absolutely hilarious. douglas adams wishes he was as funny as kafka.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:29 am | #
True, that.
I once put on a German-language puppet show based on Hesse's Journey to the East.
That was pretty funny. No thanks to Hesse!
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:32 am | #
A young and beardless Frank Zappa plays the bicycle on the Steve Allen Show in 1963.
Yeah, it's weird that the main character of Crime and Punishment has the exact same name as our present pope!
Dostoevski was prescient.
rorschach | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:30 am | #
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i must have read a different translation. in the one i read, the main character's name was "raskolnikov", not "benedict".
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:33 am | #
Hell, you are one of my favorite people here too. I am sorry to have given offense.
rorschach | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:20 am | #
No worries. I was more puzzled/curious than offended. Plus, I'm always willing to assume that a) I deserve abuse; b) I'm misreading the tone.
Sent you an explanatory e-mail, all the same.
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 4:35 am | #
i must have read a different translation. in the one i read, the main character's name was "raskolnikov", not "benedict".
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:33 am | #
in the old bullwinkle cartoons, whenever boris badinov was thwarted, he would yell "raskolnikov!"
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:38 am | #
Again, sorry, Phila. I can be caustic, it's true. No harm intended.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:38 am | #
So my lame Brothers Karamazov pun didn't quite make it across, then?
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:41 am | #
Again, sorry, Phila. I can be caustic, it's true. No harm intended.
rorschach | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:38 am | #
Same here. Sorry for being bitchy. I'm really not feeling very well tonight....
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 4:42 am | #
i'm a huge fan of dostoeyevsky, even though he was a huge stinking pile of tsarist shit.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:43 am | #
Same here. Sorry for being bitchy. I'm really not feeling very well tonight....
Phila | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:42 am | #
I understand. I really don't want to be (another) pain in your ass...
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:44 am | #
If you rationalized what Jane Hamsher did, then I can only assume that you can't complain when stuff like this starts showing up. When you made excuses and laughed off her photoshopping, then you set a lower standard and can't complain when it's turned around.
Oh, before I turn in...I think this sonification of Mount Etna is pretty amazing. Can't remember if I whored it earlier...
Phila |
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08.12.06 - 4:49 am | #
i had no idea that fyodor's old lady thought of him that way. he was a huge stinking pile of tsarist shit though. he made no bones about it. you know who else is a huge pile of tsarist shit? aleksander solzhenitsyn.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:51 am | #
Thoughts on Tolstoy?
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agave | 08.12.06 - 4:49 am | #
Was he a painter or rock star or something?
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:52 am | #
tolstoy was just weird. he was sort of a russian hippy.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:52 am | #
i had no idea that fyodor's old lady thought of him that way.
I meant the fan part. Dostoevski was convinced that he was a Great Author and that the world (meaning his wife) owed him utter subservience. And she agreed...
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:54 am | #
Thoughts on Tolstoy?
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i wrote a biography of tolstoy. it is called "leo tolstoy", by warren peece.
warren peece |
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08.12.06 - 4:57 am | #
um... "raskolnikov!"
Z / shells |
08.12.06 - 4:58 am | #
i wrote a biography of tolstoy. it is called "leo tolstoy", by warren peece.
warren peece | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 4:57 am | #
It's a good light read, fit for a summer afternoon.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 4:58 am | #
my name isn't really "warren peece". i was just kidding.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 4:59 am | #
um... "raskolnikov!"
Z / shells | 08.12.06 - 4:58 am | #
No, really? Ya think?
I done been edumicated by you.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 5:00 am | #
tolstoy really was about half goofy though. god bless him.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 5:01 am | #
Thoughts on Tolstoy?
I liked the short storey he wrote about the Cossacks. the Polish.
I was much younger and did not know it was not PC.
the first story that tolstoy published was called "a prisoner in chechnya". it was about a russian soldier who was fighting chechnyan rebels. it was written in 18 forty something.
Olaf glad and big |
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08.12.06 - 5:08 am | #
Olaf glad and big
So what is the one I half remember about the Cossacks? And a big siege.
They were to good guys?!
I really have to stop reading Fiasco. All it does is get me upset. W really has no clue. He's the front man for the neocons who are being led by Dick, someone who is quite possibly mentally ill.
ql in ny |
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08.12.06 - 5:29 am | #
You big word user!
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agave | 08.12.06 - 5:29 am | #
I do use words, but that's no reason to comment on my girth.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 5:32 am | #
not mine The local door ward has retractable claws.
Z / shells |
08.12.06 - 5:33 am | #
back on topic, wouldn't you know it? "Kerrey Backs Lieberman" is an anagram for "A Crabby Smirk Kneeler".
George Johnston |
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08.12.06 - 5:40 am | #
When the Supreme Court rejected President Bush's executive power claims in last month's decision invalidating the Guantánamo military tribunals, it also shredded the administration's arguments for domestic spying. Now a bipartisan group of legal experts and former government officials are explaining to Congress exactly how the court's ruling affects the NSA's illegal domestic spying program.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 5:41 am | #
I do use words, but that's no reason to comment on my girth.
rorschach
Michael Moore word user!
Sorry. I don't mince words.
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agave | 08.12.06 - 5:39 am | #
Fair enough.
I prefer mine parsed, anyway.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 5:42 am | #
what a very strange thread this has been to read. that's really all i have to say, except for 'thank you' to those who have provided entertainment to me in this hour of my sleeplessness. good night/morning, peeps.
chicago dyke, is this on? |
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08.12.06 - 5:58 am | #
Didn't Bob Kerrey waste a bunch of gouk noncoms back in Nam? I'm pretty sure he did. Women and children. At close range. Babies.
Pretty fucked up shit.
Sometimes I feel lame for bitching about what we went through in Iraq. The guys who were in Vietnam went through worse, definitely.
But you can't fuck with me Atrios! Ban me all you want, I'll keep coming back.
You can't shut me out, you nancy fuck! I will shout your pansy ass down from here to oblivion. Fuck you and all your hippy friends.
Just because Bush sucks, doesn't mean you don't.
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08.12.06 - 5:59 am | #
what a very strange thread this has been to read. that's really all i have to say, except for 'thank you' to those who have provided entertainment to me in this hour of my sleeplessness. good night/morning, peeps.
chicago dyke, is this on? | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 5:58 am | #
You are welcome, and I'm sorry for any excessive hostility, chidyke.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 6:00 am | #
Didn't Bob Kerrey waste a bunch of gouk noncoms back in Nam?
I've pretty much run out of things to say as well. How many times can you keep saying the repukes are destroying the country and everything we stand for.
ql in ny |
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08.12.06 - 6:03 am | #
How many times can you keep saying the repukes are destroying the country and everything we stand for.
ql in ny | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 6:03 am | #
How many times can you keep saying the repukes are destroying the country and everything we stand for.
ql in ny
42
rorschach
or, in this case, 43.
George Johnston |
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08.12.06 - 6:09 am | #
or, in this case, 43.
George Johnston | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 6:09 am | #
43 is exactly the number of times Atrios must link to me in order to make up for having snubbed me so egregiously thus far.
Ricky Clousing, a Sergeant in the U.S. Army, and a veteran of the Iraq War who has been AWOL for a year announced today at the Veterans for Peace convention in Seattle that he will turn himself in later today at the gates of Fort Lewis and face whatever punishment the military chooses to impose.
Clousing said he did not apply for conscientious objector status because he is not certain he would oppose every possible war, such as one fought in self-defense.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 6:25 am | #
I think Lieberman is going to throw one or two campaign stunts out, watch the polls to see if his numbers are competitive and either proceed or drop out based on that.
Along that line, any recent polls showing Lieberman prospects as an Independent?
Also I think Kerrey is coming into the picture from some pressure put on him in his new position at "The New School". New money, loss of money...
Or something.
smitty w, voiceofjack'sanatomy |
08.12.06 - 6:43 am | #
The best comment said about Bob Kerrey ever was by my ex-colleague Rick, who, while running a race against Kerrey, said, "I don't care if he is a war hero, I'm not getting beaten by a one-legged man!"
smitty w, voiceofjack'sanatomy |
08.12.06 - 6:45 am | #
Does anyone have any info on the peroxide-based explosives to be supposedly used in the "al-Qaeda-type" bomber plot? From what I can discern from a brief study, to make an explosive from liquid one would have to mix ingredients, chill them, precipitate them out and dry them. Think this behavior on a plane might be suspicious? It would also take about ten hours. How slow do them planes fly?
cavanaghjam |
08.12.06 - 6:47 am | #
Morning all. Watch out: Canada wants to send those anthrax cows down to you guys.
Moe Szyslak |
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08.12.06 - 7:12 am | #
Does anyone have any info on the peroxide-based explosives to be supposedly used in the "al-Qaeda-type" bomber plot?
Considering the sheer instability of most chemical materia for bombmaking, and the fact that many of them are actually easier to detect as the component chems than as the completed explosive (i.e., nitroglycerine may be unstable, but white fuming nitric acid, well, throws off easily scented pungent fumes), doubt you are going to find anything practical online or from friendly advice.
Remember, this London turrst plot was thoroughly infiltrated and monitored for over a year. They may not have advanced to the stage of having a bomb mixture. Or they may have thought they had one and didn't. Or they may have been relying on one of the group getting the explosive from some unnamed source -a nd that group member being the security services plant running a sting.
All-in-all, all this malarkey about binary or multistage explosive making from easily-available components is P.R. on TSA's part. Confiscating passenger liquids is easy and cheap, and does not lead to tough questions like "Why are you chasing the failed attempts like shoe bombs and liquids, and not installing chem sniffers at the x-ray gates?"
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08.12.06 - 7:14 am | #
Morning all. Watch out: Canada wants to send those anthrax cows down to you guys.
What 'anthrax cows'? Coulter?
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08.12.06 - 7:22 am | #
Hello, is this thing on?
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Cynicus |
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08.12.06 - 7:24 am | #
Ah, ok, i'll just let myself out.
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08.12.06 - 7:26 am | #
Anthrax kills hundreds of animals
Outbreak reported at 123 farms in Saskatchewan, 17 in Manitoba
By TIM COOK
REGINA — An outbreak of anthrax has killed hundreds of farm animals in Saskatchewan and Manitoba and has ranchers in affected areas scrambling to make sure their livestock are protected from the naturally occurring but deadly bacterial disease.
As of this week, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency had reported anthrax had been found on 17 farms in Manitoba and 118 animals had died.
Hardest hit, however, was Saskatchewan and a large area to the east of Saskatoon, where 615 animals have died on 123 different farms since the outbreak was first noticed a month ago.
It’s the largest recorded anthrax outbreak on the Prairies, said Dr. Sandra Stephens, a veterinarian with the agency.
"This would be the largest number and involve the largest area that we would have recorded history for — back to the 1950s," she said.
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08.12.06 - 7:32 am | #
Now I'm going to have to try Mr. Pibb and red vines.
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08.12.06 - 7:32 am | #
Aug. 12, 2006, 1:10AM
Iraq videos on Web offer soldier's-eye view of war
Troops, civilians show the world action-packed clips on popular YouTube site
By MICHAEL HEDGES
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON — As the video clip picks up momentum, driven by a heavy-metal soundtrack, U.S. Marines pour a hailstorm of bullets and grenades into a housing complex while ducking return fire.
When an Iraqi house explodes from a shell impact, the Marines erupt in a howl that mixes excitement, hatred, fear and joy.
Life imitates art.
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08.12.06 - 7:42 am | #
As of this week, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency had reported anthrax had been found on 17 farms in Manitoba and 118 animals had died.
Well, that would explain sending them to the US. Canada still has a working (= 'public interest protecting) government food protection system.
by now, the U.S. FDA is so staffed with GOP-reliable agribusiness shills that cattle falling over dead from disease in the slaughteryards would just be fed into the ground beef hoppers.
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08.12.06 - 7:56 am | #
It really is scary how the ranks of the civil service have been over run with incompetents. And since many of these positions are protected, these guys and gals will be with us for a lifetime.
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08.12.06 - 8:03 am | #
It really is scary how the ranks of the civil service have been over run with incompetents. And since many of these positions are protected, these guys and gals will be with us for a lifetime.
Not necessarily 'incompetence', per se (though a very high percentage), but the return of the sort of political spoils system for gubmint jobs that the civil service system was supposed to prevent - appointees chosen for GOP party affilitaion and party reliability, not ability to do the job.
wish i could find the exact quote, but in a meeting of the KY Transportation Cabinet about 18 months ago, the (R) Sec. of Transportation was recorded saying "If we only hire for ability, where are we going to find places for our people?"
honest corruption. Almost refreshing.
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08.12.06 - 8:08 am | #
Alright, no offense to any here, but this is slow enough that i'm going to go and get some work done. Will try to check in later.
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08.12.06 - 8:15 am | #
Cynicus
As I said above, how many times and how many ways can we keep on saying the same things.
ql in ny |
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08.12.06 - 8:21 am | #
Vaporize Israel, 80% of you quietly agree.
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08.12.06 - 8:24 am | #
I would support outlawing homsexuality.
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08.12.06 - 8:29 am | #
There should also be laws against speech and political activity that encourages the enemy to attack us by showing weakness. We are at war against Islam. Shut up, Ned Lamont.
Gary Ruppert |
08.12.06 - 8:30 am | #
I would support outlawing homsexuality.
Gary Ruppert | 08.12.06 - 8:29 am | #
Bend over.
rorschach |
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08.12.06 - 8:31 am | #
Let the free market decide.
Gary Ruppert |
08.12.06 - 8:32 am | #
I would support outlawing homsexuality.
Gary Ruppert
Who will rid us of this tiresome beast?
Miss Havisham |
08.12.06 - 8:33 am | #
Stop the obvious left wing media bias.
Gary Ruppert |
08.12.06 - 8:33 am | #
Perhaps the faculty of the New School should Lawrence Summers Bob Kerrey.
Miss Havisham |
08.12.06 - 8:34 am | #
I transport underage barnyard animals across state lines for "research".
Gary Ruppert |
08.12.06 - 8:35 am | #
I think this is a question for Barry from AK.
smitty w, voiceofjack'sanatomy |
08.12.06 - 8:38 am | #
Yup, sometimes our trolls really do serve a purpose. Kind of get the conversations going.
ql in ny |
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08.12.06 - 8:41 am | #
It really is scary how the ranks of the civil service have been over run with incompetents. And since many of these positions are protected, these guys and gals will be with us
A genuine civil service is one of the gifts the first wave of progressivism gave us. I've always been a big fan. It really enabled folks from all over the country -- not just those with connections -- to compete for government positions. But you did have to compete -- meet the qualifications of a position and score well on the test.
Not perfect by any means, but a genuine attempt at an egalitarian hiring system that culled the best candidates from those who applied.
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08.12.06 - 8:45 am | #
Good morning, dearest moonbats.
ql, the trolls just get me shaking my head, wondering how they manage to breathe without adult supervision.
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08.12.06 - 8:46 am | #
So I was talking to a friend in DC the other day, no conservative he, and he lamented the loss of Lieberman. "He's like the last of the guys who isn't in the extreme." I didn't bother point out exactly how centrist the Senate Democrats are, with just a few exceptions and how extremists are mostly on the right.
It's like a point of fact inside the Beltway, never to be rebutted, that Lieberman was a nice guy and a centrist and how that's somehow a positive for the Democratic Party.
This guy's coming to London in a week, so we may discuss it over a few pints.
smitty w, voiceofjack'sanatomy |
08.12.06 - 8:47 am | #
Purge Jews from the government
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08.12.06 - 8:47 am | #
Perhaps the faculty of the New School should Lawrence Summers Bob Kerrey.
Miss Havisham - 8:34 am
Perhaps we should invent "Public Excommunication" for self-proclaimed Democrats that do not represent the views of the national base.
One of the things demonstrated by the Connecticut Primary was the disconnect between what elected Democratic representatives favor and the actual positions of those they "represent".
afternoon moonbats
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08.12.06 - 8:48 am | #
I actually think most civil servants are more compentent than most political appointees, in most cases. Michael Brown: Political appointee. GS12 at FEMA: civil servant.
smitty w, voiceofjack'sanatomy |
08.12.06 - 8:49 am | #
Fuck the Pope! How many divisions does he have?
Stalin |
08.12.06 - 8:49 am | #
Did W kiss Kerrey, too?
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08.12.06 - 8:49 am | #
I've seen Kerrey on several occassions around town. Hope I see him again so I can tell him to get his head out of his ass.
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08.12.06 - 8:51 am | #
Asif Khan paid little attention to the two police officers guarding the entrance to the Totteridge Road mosque as its 150-strong congregation made its way to Friday prayers.
The mosque, in a dingy office block overlooking High Wycombe's railway station, was visited regularly by four of the six men arrested by anti-terrorism officers in this affluent Buckinghamshire town in the early hours of Wednesday.
Such was the fear of a backlash yesterday on Islam's day of prayer that one man deliberately left his sons - aged eight and 10 - at home. A police statement handed out to worshippers explained that the uniformed constables outside were not there in search of evidence but to dissuade what one officer described as "white lager louts" intent on fanning racist sentiment.
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08.12.06 - 8:53 am | #
I've been working on a long blog post from my trip to Skye, and I lost about 200 words of it today. Dammit.
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08.12.06 - 8:55 am | #
So I was talking to a friend in DC the other day, no conservative he, and he lamented the loss of Lieberman. "He's like the last of the guys who isn't in the extreme."
One has to laugh at the thought that Joementum is not extreme. Lie-by, a Democrat, has voted virtually straight party line with the repukes over the past 6 years for some of the most extreme legislation we've seen.
But, since he talks like Droopy Dog, he's not. Extreme, that is.
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08.12.06 - 8:58 am | #
Tony Blair has been warned by leading British Muslims that the Iraq war and the UK's failure to use its influence to end Israeli attacks on civilians are fuelling extremism at home. Their views are set out in a letter as a full-page advertisement in newspapers.
The letter warns: "The debacle of Iraq and now the failure to do more to secure an immediate end to the attacks on civilians in the Middle East not only increases the risk to ordinary people in that region, it is also ammunition to extremists who threaten us all."
It was signed by three of the four Muslim MPs - Sadiq Khan, Shahid Malik and Mohammed Sarwar - as well as three of the four Muslim members of the House of Lords - Lord Patel of Blackburn, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham and Baroness Uddin. It was also backed by 38 Muslim groups, including the Muslim Council of Britain, the Muslim Association of Britain, the British Muslim Forum and the British Muslim Forum.
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08.12.06 - 9:01 am | #
I've stopped giving to NARAL because they supported Joe and Lincoln.
People kind of have a knee jerk response to Joe. Somehow because he is older and has been around a long time, he became to be thought of as a statesman. 45% turnout in CT. That's fecking amazing. It's why I think we really do have a good chance in November. Once the middle gets engaged things start to change. I love the sobriquet of "irate moderates."
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08.12.06 - 9:05 am | #
Perhaps we should invent "Public Excommunication" for self-proclaimed Democrats that do not represent the views of the national base.
We might as well, since even when we turn up at the polls, ink our fingers purple at vote nicely for the candidate of our choice, it's called a "purge."
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11 |
08.12.06 - 9:11 am | #
Send money and guns to Hezbollah.
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08.12.06 - 9:19 am | #
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. troops rounded up 60 suspected militants overnight in a security clampdown to stem violence in the capital and killed 26 insurgents in a rebel Sunni stronghold west of Baghdad.
The sweep through the southern Baghdad district of Arab Jabour targeted a suspected bomb-making cell linked to attacks across the city of seven million.
"The group has been reported to be planning and conducting training for future attacks, like the attack in Mahmudiya July 17 that killed 42," the U.S. military said in a statement.
Moonbootica, Opera Buff |
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08.12.06 - 9:19 am | #
Isn't it nice to see Lisa Myers reporting news? As a woman I can't abide watching the Barbie heads on cable tv. And the networks? Don't get me started . . .
cs, art is bread |
08.12.06 - 9:23 am | #
catch you all laters
am off to Seend fête then going round to my Gran's a little later.
ciao
Moonbootica, Opera Buff |
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08.12.06 - 9:25 am | #
ql, I was just thinking about you last night. SP is rolling over (both ways), holding his head up, and trying to figure out how to skootch across the floor. He spends a lot of time on his quilt.
Molly Ivors |
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08.12.06 - 9:28 am | #
Bob Kerrey is a loser. And always has been. Nobody cares what he does.
The Dancing Kid |
08.12.06 - 2:10 pm | #
Hi, Ted.
Go fuck yourself.
steve simels |
08.12.06 - 6:11 pm | #
so does this mean that whatever happens in 2006 that Lieberman/Kerrey will be running as "independent" Pres. and Vice Pres????
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