I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarD'oh!


GravatarThe first part about popularity is spinning.

The second bolded isn't spin at all. Alas, it shows what a bunch of Dumb Fucks our country has become.


GravatarSlow down, I just woke and got off the phone with Gateway.


Gravatar"Slow down, I just woke and got off the phone with Gateway."

In that order?


GravatarYeah, yeah, but these bumps tend to be short-lived. Which means its going to be all Terra! alla Time till mid-November, and as the tiny role the US played in forestalling this plot becomes clear, we'll all feel played again.


GravatarIt wasn't a serious threat! They were under surveillance for the past year and were not going to be allowed to carry out their plans. Stop the propoganda!


GravatarIt's often forgotten that an al-Qaeda affiliated group ENDORSED CHIMPY in 2004

In its statement, Abu Hafs al-Masri..tells Americans that [it] supports the re-election of President George W. Bush.

"We are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections," it said.

Addressing Bush, it said: "We know that a heavyweight operation would destroy your government, and this is what we don't want. We are not going to find a bigger idiot than you." The statement said Abu Hafs al-Masri needs what it called Bush's "idiocy and religious fanaticism" because they would "wake up" the Islamic world. Comparing Bush with his Democratic challenger, Senator John Kerry, the statement tells the president, "Actually, there is no difference between you and Kerry, but Kerry will kill our community, while it is unaware, because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish infidelity and present it to the Arab and Islamic community as civilization."


GravatarWell, I woke up, called Gateway, then got off the phone.


GravatarAlways twirling, twirling towards freedom!


GravatarWorst. Preznit. Ever.


GravatarIt's true, Bush and Al-Qaeda need each other.

Like Ali and Frazier.

Like the Red Sox and Yankees.

Like the Redskins and the Cowboys.


GravatarLebanon 'peace deal'.


GravatarIs it just my undue optimism, or do the voices of fear seem a bit shriller, more desperate, and less substantive these days?


GravatarThat's sad but true.


GravatarAtrios: Check out this piece by Bob Parry over at The Consortium

As Americans suffer through another terrorism scare and George W. Bush talks tough about a long war against “Islamic fascists,” it bears remembering that top CIA analysts concluded that al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden released a videotape right before Election 2004 to help Bush win a second term.

Many liberals and Democrats have focused on allegations of Republican voter suppression and vote tampering, especially in the swing state of Ohio. But polls suggest that a more decisive factor in Bush’s narrow victory in 2004 was the reaction of the American people to bin Laden’s last-minute tirade against Bush.

On Oct. 29, 2004, the Friday before Election 2004, bin Laden broke nearly a year of silence and took the risk of releasing a videotape that denounced Bush and was immediately spun by Bush’s supporters as bin Laden’s “endorsement” of Democratic Sen. John Kerry.

According to two polls taken during and after the videotape’s release, Bush experienced a bump of several percentage points, from a virtual tie with Kerry to a five or six percentage point lead. Tracking polls by TIPP and Newsweek detected a surge in Bush support from a statistically insignificant two-point lead to five and six points, respectively.

On Nov. 2, 2004, the official results showed Bush winning by a margin of less than three percentage points. So, arguably the intervention by bin Laden – essentially urging Americans to reject Bush – had the predictable effect of driving voters to the President, possibly in sufficient numbers to tip the balance of the election.


GravatarGive us good policing and fair trials - not rhetoric on stilts

Law enforcement, rather than another rush to the statute book, is the right way to deal with the threat of terrorism

by Shami Chakrabarti


GravatarSadly, peace and security are boring and, thus, poor ratings material.

Boredom is safety!


GravatarMy husband just told me that NPR is reporting that Lieberman didn't pay his hosting fees and that's what shut down service. Anybody else hear anything?


GravatarI think you have a point, Prof. Each reaction to a 'plot' must of necessity be louder, more urgent, shriller than the last to have the same effect. Eventually...


GravatarHow come, with their constant spinning, these idiots don't just get dizzy and fall down?


GravatarI guess every time Bush falls in the ratings, the GOP spinners rush to where he's fallen and establish that as some kind of base camp, and after they're done wrapping the media around their little fingers, the story becomes how far he's risen above the base, not that millions continue to hate his fucking guts.

This is the same mechanism being used by the wingtard machine, when they try to inculcate mass amnesia across the land regarding the war. 'We always knew it was going to be a long hard struggle.'


GravatarMy husband just told me that NPR is reporting that Lieberman didn't pay his hosting fees and that's what shut down service.

That would be beautiful, if true.


GravatarNote also that Cheney did some insider trading in his comments on the connecticut primary -- Pony Blow yesterday

Q How much detail did the Vice President have about the timing of what was going to happen in Britain on Wednesday, when he did that conference call with reporters?

MR. SNOW: He did not know.
Q He didn't know anything? Or he didn't --

MR. SNOW: He did not know that there was an operation that was to take place. There was no anticipation of an operation that day. It's important to recognize that the comments that were made after the Connecticut primary were in response to the Connecticut primary, and they were not in anticipation of a British action. I can say that with absolute assurance not only with regard to me, but also the Vice President. That's why I mentioned the notifications took place after he had done his phone conference.

Q -- did say that he had been part of the briefings over the weekend.

MR. SNOW: Yes, but the briefings gave nothing about timing. They were general discussions of threat


GravatarSo...three percent got the mistaken notion that Bush had something to do with Britain poiling a plot. I'm guessing those are the folks who, although they are increasingly upset with the conduct of the Iraq occupation, still buy the lie that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

Here's to living in a land ruled by the Margin of Error!


GravatarI do believe that this CNN anchor is going to have an on-air panic attack.

Oooooh. Breaking news.


GravatarMy husband just told me that NPR is reporting that Lieberman didn't pay his hosting fees and that's what shut down service. Anybody else hear anything?

As I recall, this is what Kos documented early on election day, and Sean Smith denied it. Oh, wouldn't it be loverly?


GravatarAh, it's "toss the 'fridge" time in the unit below...
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Gravatar"It's true, Bush and Al-Qaeda need each other.

Like Ali and Frazier.

Like the Red Sox and Yankees.

Like the Redskins and the Cowboys.
Marwood | 08.12.06 - 11:39 am |"


Like Fred and Ginger.


Gravatar It's true, Bush and Al-Qaeda need each other.

Like Ali and Frazier.

Like the Red Sox and Yankees.

Like the Redskins and the Cowboys.
Marwood | 08.12.06 - 11:39 am | #


I object to those comparisons. Even to the Red Sox/Yankees, now that the Sox have beaten 'em once. Before that, they fit as a Bush/Osama comparison. Y'know, 'cause one side always won.


GravatarCrap, that is not breaking news, idiots.


GravatarLet's see..the liquid explosives plot in England exploited a gap in our air security that is corrected by hysteria at the airports.

The "security" president implements an air security program that has huge holes.

Yep..I sure want him in charge.

NEWSWEEK found 550 idiots.


GravatarOT: Hizbollah will abide by UN ceasefire

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Hizbollah said on Saturday it would abide by any U.N.-backed ceasefire in Lebanon, but would resist Israeli troops expanding their offensive in the south.

Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, leader of the Shi'ite Muslim guerrillas, said Hizbollah would cooperate with Lebanese and U.N. troops due to be deployed in south Lebanon under a Security Council resolution adopted on Friday to end the month-old war.

"Once there is an agreement to stop the hostilities or the military operations, the resistance will abide by it," Nasrallah said in a speech broadcast on Hizbollah's al-Manar television.


GravatarGreat term from Wiki

Definition of security theater

Security theater has been defined as ostensible security measures which have little real influence on security whilst being publicly visible and designed to show that action is taking place. Security theater has been related to and has some similarities with superstition.

The term was coined by Bruce Schneier for his book Beyond Fear but has gained currency in security circles as a good term for a very common phenomenon and in particular for describing airport security measures1 and by experts such as Edward Felten to describe the security measures imposed after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center2. Security theater gains importance both by satisfying and exploiting the gap between perceived risk and actual risk


Gravatar Like Fred and Ginger.
David Ehrenstein | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 11:45 am | #


'Cause Bush does everything Osama wants, plus he's taking us backward and he's a heel?


GravatarMorning, all.

Can I just mention how much I
dislike the Satellite Sisters?


GravatarAs I'm always seeking a brief music hijack of the thread, I'd like to announce that I'm in the possession on two excellent Orchestra section seats for tomorrow evening's last show of Tom Waits' 8 city tour.

It's at the fabulously ornate Akron Civic Theatre. I'm very excited.

http://tinyurl.com/f24we


GravatarCNN got an exclusive statement from a lawyer representing some of the suspects. They are not getting fed.

Waaaah.


GravatarI guess if Bush fell off his bicycle and his brains were leaking out his ears, the media would report it as "Bush Loses Two Pounds of Ugly Fat Through Exercise".


GravatarThere are too many footprints all over web sites for the truth about the Lieberman site's failure to remain obscure. My guess is we've already seen it, and that hacking had nothing to do with it...


GravatarI object to those comparisons. Even to the Red Sox/Yankees, now that the Sox have beaten 'em once. Before that, they fit as a Bush/Osama comparison. Y'know, 'cause one side always won.

Fair point. I guess it's like the Red Sox/Yankees pre-2004.


GravatarCan I just mention how much I
dislike the Satellite Sisters?


Yes, yes you can. They're no Click and Clack, that's for sure!


GravatarUK police release bomb plot suspect

British police have released one of the 24 suspects in the London bomb plot without charge, but have been granted permission to hold 22 people until next Wednesday.

A decision on the other suspect will be taken on Monday.

The police crackdown, 13 months after four suicide bombers killed 52 people on London's transport system, has prompted a reaction from British Muslims who say that they are being demonised by the militancy of a few.

In an open letter to Tony Blair, the British prime minister, leading British Muslim groups and politicians criticised British foreign policies on Iraq and the Middle East crisis and said that these policies were putting civilians at increased risk of attack in Britain and elsewhere.


Gravatarhowdy from latvia. just popping in to catch up...


Gravatar“Beginning more than a year before the invasion of Iraq, I consistently stated that the Administration's misguided effort to drag our country into an ill-advised occupation of Iraq would hurt, not help, in the war against international terror. I am deeply disappointed that Mr. Allen is now so clearly and deliberately misrepresenting my views. He knows exactly how I felt about this because I personally explained my views to him in September 2002, five months before the Iraq invasion.

“As the events of this morning demonstrate, the stakes in the war on terror are too high for people such as Mr. Allen to be using them as cheap political props.”

-Jim Webb, Virginia's Democratic Candidate for US Senate

Can't see that Webb has released any statements supporting Lamont (though surely he must) or asking Lieberman to step aside, but I'd say he has his hands full trying to take down Allen at this point.


Gravatarhowdy from latvia.

Howdy from Columbus, OH just doesn't have the same ring to it.


Gravatar"Bush Loses Two Pounds of Ugly Fat Through Exercise".

Bush has two pounds of brains?


GravatarMuch as it's great watching Fred and Ginger, he did a lot of superb dancing without her...


GravatarYou know, since the Justice Department and the FBI looked into the "Lieberman site hack" lie, shouldn't that be regarded as a "wasting police time" kind of offense?

Playing politics with our anti-terrorism resources, Mr. Lieberman? Lying to law enforcement, Joe?

Hammer him hard.


Gravatar“As the events of this morning demonstrate, the stakes in the war on terror are too high for people such as Mr. Allen to be using them as cheap political props.”

Webb talk pretty. Me like!


GravatarThey're literally celebrating the political exploitation of terror for under a dozen points. If we were invaded by Martians tomorrow Newsweek would print drooling features on the powerful weapons of our new masters.


GravatarFrom what I hear all shows on AAR are going to be like Satellite Sisters and Jerry Springer when they move to WWRL.
The only exceptions will be Randi and Al.

I've heard that Armstrong Williams (tosser) will be taking over Rachel Maddow's spot.


GravatarBush has two pounds of brains?
Snow, Sublimest


An estimate, based on the average person having around three.


Gravatarshouldn't that be regarded as a "wasting police time" kind of offense

It would seem difficult for the Lieberman campaign to claim that they didn't know the web hosting bill was due.


GravatarWebb is right to concentrate on Allen and not worry about other races.


GravatarSome smart TV network should snap Rachel Maddow up. She's so smart and affable, so strong and clear in her reasoning!


GravatarIt'd be very hard to not look good running against George Allen...


GravatarI've heard that Armstrong Williams (tosser) will be taking over Rachel Maddow's spot.
HoneyBearKelly- 11:50 am


i missed the /snark tag there, hbk

surely you just left it off through inadvertence, Right?

right?

RIGHT?

FUCKING RIGHT????


Gravatar"MSNBC's chief bootlicker will be on a little later to instruct us on just how we can effectively bow down to the sleek, throbbing technology of our Martian overlords..."


GravatarThey're literally celebrating the political exploitation of terror for under a dozen points.

They don't even try to hide the politicization of terror by Republicans anymore. It's only going to get uglier over the next two and a half months.


GravatarWhy is this coming out on Saturday not Monday? Are they that desperate to get good news out that they can't wait for their usual attempted manipulation of the news cycle?


GravatarUS detains scores in Baghdad sweep

Up to 60 people have been arrested while attending a funeral in a predominantly Sunni neighbourhood of Baghdad as part of a new US military strategy to clamp down on fighters.

Those arrested in Jabur are believed to have links to "terrorist activity" and the al-Qaeda network and have been "detained without incident", the US military said on Saturday.

"The group has been reported to be planning and conducting training for future attacks like the attack in Mahmudiya on July 17 that killed 42 and injured 90 innocent Iraqis," the US military statement said.


GravatarIt would seem difficult for the Lieberman campaign to claim that they didn't know the web hosting bill was due.
Marwood


Irresponsible with money...won't pay his bills...smack, smack, smack...never let up on this hack.

On the other hand, I suppose that could backfire. Should a strategy of ignoring Lieberman completely be the path for Lamont?


GravatarRounding up 'suspected terrorists' at funerals. This should go well in changing hearts and minds.


GravatarMy husband just told me that NPR is reporting that Lieberman didn't pay his hosting fees and that's what shut down service. Anybody else hear anything?

Ah, this is clearly a Rove-contributed plot: the Lieberman camp floats this story, certain that it will inspire hate-filled liberals to denounce HoJo as a "typical cheap-ass Jew" in comments threads just like this one.

And then the troublesome progressive blogosphere will be lifted from HoJo's bent back by the resulting wave of righteous indignation and condemnation, and be swept into the sea. And Amerika can return to the status quo ante.


GravatarAre they that desperate to get good news out that they can't wait for their usual attempted manipulation of the news cycle?

Yes.


GravatarWoody sadly, no.

AAR will broadcast mostly syndicated shows where they get paid.

I know.

A crime and a shame and I want my AAR Premium money back.


GravatarWho started it?


GravatarHowdy in Columbus, Marwood! Don't go spilling anything nasty in the Scioto. In fact, don't spill too much of anything, cuz it floods darn easy down here at the mouth.


GravatarFrom what I hear all shows on AAR are going to be like Satellite Sisters and Jerry Springer when they move to WWRL.
The only exceptions will be Randi and Al.


Mike Malloy announced last night that he's moving to NYC and has a multiyear contract. The real problem with AAR is that they have lousy stations that can't broadcast more than 2 feet away...plus they sold their station in Atlanta which they haven't changed on their site. I guess carrying Al's show at noon qualifies for affiliate status.


GravatarCleveland Bob -- Ooh, you lucky son of a gun. I saw Arlo there long ago. I love the way the stars come out on the ceiling and the clouds start drifting across the sky . . .


GravatarAh, this is clearly a Rove-contributed plot: the Lieberman camp floats this story, certain that it will inspire hate-filled liberals to denounce HoJo as a "typical cheap-ass Jew" in comments threads just like this one.

And yet, you're the only one here to say this today.
Nice projection.


GravatarRe: Lieberman web crash flap.

On the extremely remote possibility that the server was hacked or DOS'd, I'd say it has all the hallmarks of a Rove ratf%ck.


GravatarShould a strategy of ignoring Lieberman completely be the path for Lamont?

No. Paint him as a Bush/Cheney/Rove tool, which he is.


Gravatar Webb is right to concentrate on Allen and not worry about other races.
Snow, Sublimest | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 11:51 am | #


True, but WHEN is the media going to focus the tiniest spotlight on all these veterans running as Democrats? Too uncomfortably out of step with the narrative, I know. Do we still have several dozen of them, or did they not win their primaries or something?


GravatarNice projection.
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 11:57 am |

He's saying other people would be expected to say it, not saying it himself or even saying others would. And this is hardly the first time this explanation has appeared.


GravatarThomas Franks, the author of What’s the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America, is guest writing for the NY Times this month while Maureen Dowd is on sabbatical and starts off with this great article that asks why we’ve let the Republicans, the ultimate insiders, keep complaining about being the ultimate outsiders.


GravatarAll this suggests that news of a serious terror threat boosts the president's ratings,

And any score of 38 percent is still a good, solid old-fashioned "F".


GravatarHowdy in Columbus, Marwood! Don't go spilling anything nasty in the Scioto. In fact, don't spill too much of anything, cuz it floods darn easy down here at the mouth.

Howdy, back. You're in Portsmouth, I take it. I live near the Olentangy, so you're safe!


GravatarHowdy in Columbus, Marwood! Don't go spilling anything nasty in the Scioto. In fact, don't spill too much of anything, cuz it floods darn easy down here at the mouth.

Howdy, back. You're in Portsmouth, I take it. I live near the Olentangy, so you're safe!


Gravatar3 percentage points is within MOE. Fucking morons.


GravatarI've recently gotten into the habit of watching C-Span's "Washington Journal" every morning. It's really a wonderful way to hear what America is saying.

I was nausated (but not surprised) to hear all the sheeple calllng in after this recent 'terror alert'....saying how glad they were that Bush was president; how glad they were that he has insisted on 'keeping us safe' by illegal NSA spying and general abridgement of our civil liberties, et.al. These are extremely angry, non-thinking people. They strictly follow the RNC talking points and don't miss a beat.

Some mornings it's kind of hard to keep one's coffee down while listening to these cement heads, but I recommend it in the sense of 'know thine enemy'. There's a lot of frightening shit going on in 'Merika.


GravatarHe said it. And I qualified saying it to today.


GravatarNo. Paint him as a Bush/Cheney/Rove tool, which he is.
Marwood |


The ties to Rove and Cheney are simply too good to pass up. For the next debate, a response like "my opponent has been taking his cues from his good friend, the Vice President" is all ya need.


GravatarCNN is even resurrecting the ghost of Osama, they're so desperate for ratings.

I don't mind whores.
You know some of my best friends.

It's cheap whores I have a problem with.


GravatarTrue, but WHEN is the media going to focus the tiniest spotlight on all these veterans running as Democrats?

Maybe an email/telephone campaign would instigate such coverage. We should start emailing in requests for more information on these stories. Yes?


GravatarA crime and a shame and I want my AAR Premium money back.
HoneyBearKelly - 11:55 am


Armstrong fucking Williams?

the same dude who got busted for selling his space to the Busheviks?

i cannot fucking believe this?

what the jolly fuck is this?

the first whisper of that fucker's voice i hear will signal the last time i listern to the fuckers, ever again...
ARMSTRONG FUCKING WILLIAMS???
They could prob'ly get fucking Ollie North and fucking Gordon Liddy, too...

shit, why din't i think of that...

but it's better than to have a whiff of disloyalty to AIPAC, i guess...
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GravatarMy husband just told me that NPR is reporting that Lieberman didn't pay his hosting fees and that's what shut down service

(*gasp*)

It's gotta be true..well..because NPR would never propogate the already disproven and laughed at propaganda put out by the lefist nutbgas...would they?


GravatarReally, AAR not being AAR any more happened when they sold space to Jerry Springer, but to give a time slot to Armstrong Williams means that the bartender is beyond verbal warning and is now escorting you away.


Gravatar The enemy within? The ordinary men in the midst of an extraordinary plot

One is a taxi-driver, another delivers pizzas, one group buys and sells used cars. They earn their livings in unremarkable ways.

They are family types, with young children and pregnant wives. They live in typical suburbs and ordinary towns. To relax, they watch cricket and football, meet their friends and pray at the local mosque. On the surface, their lives are unexceptional.

But in the early hours of Thursday morning, 23 young men and one woman were arrested in a series of raids in connection with an alleged plot to bring down five airliners packed with passengers.


GravatarBut a majority, 55 percent, approve of Bush's handling of terrorism and homeland security

A president on vacation when the Brits intercept a plot to kill Americans really keeps the nation safe.

And why should the president interrupt his quest for the 7-pound perch over some silly thing like the prospect of an exploding plane over a densley populated American city?


Gravatarbecause NPR would never propogate the already disproven and laughed at propaganda put out by the lefist nutbgas...would they?

Not anymore.


GravatarWhere was it "already disproven", dipshit?

Give us the link, or shut the fuck up.


GravatarIs "dipshit" really Dan Gerstein?


GravatarYeah, but the olentangy flows into the Scioto, so it all gets to Portsmouth eventually. I once steered a Viking boat down past the Point to the Santa Maria - we put in at a little tiny boat ramp behind the old power plant.


GravatarIt's gotta be true..well..because NPR would never propogate the already disproven and laughed at propaganda put out by the lefist nutbgas...would they?
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 12:02 pm | #


I never said it was true you assinine moron. I just said that my husband told me heard it. Could have heard it wrong which is why I asked if anyone else had heard anything. Oh wait, if I were a republican hack like yourself, I would have just published it as total unassailable fact just cuz I wanted to.


GravatarBush and bin Laden need each other, that's for sure. Like the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals need each other.

It remains to be seen which team is the Generals.


GravatarIsrael's attack on convoy a 'mistake'

Israel has admitted that it was "mistaken" in attacking a convoy of hundreds of cars carrying people fleeing the fighting in southern Lebanon.

At least seven people were killed and 36 wounded when an unmanned Israeli aircraft fired on the convoy of more than 500 vehicles.

The Israeli army confirmed it had carried out an air strike on the convoy, saying it had acted on the mistaken suspicion that Hezbollah guerrillas were smuggling weapons in the vehicles.

"The attack was carried out based on a suspicion. It was found to be incorrect," an army spokeswoman said.


Gravatarcs, art is bread,

Thanks. It's a fantastic venue. They poured tons of dough into the site about 5 years ago and it's been restored to it's former glory.

It was pretty beat up for the majority of the 25 previous years. I remember seeing Gentle Giant there in '75 or so and there was netting hanging from the ceiling to collect falling plaster.

In any case, we're very amped. He rarely plays out anymore. I've never seen Waits and I've been waiting for a long, long time.


GravatarIt remains to be seen which team is the Generals.
lipreader | 08.12.06 - 12:05 pm |

I can't think of a single failure, loss or defeat bin Laden has suffered that has been comparable to what is normal for the Bush crime family.


GravatarWho started it?
Moonbootica, Opera Buff


My...he is indeed an angry Arab.

I'm not sure that "who started it" has much value outside of an elementary school playground, though.


Gravatardipshit, give my regards to fuckhead and assmunch.


GravatarCNN is even resurrecting the ghost of Osama, they're so desperate for ratings.

Catching the head of al Qaeda isn't important. Bush doesn't even think of him anymore, especially not when he's got more important things to worry about than exploding plane loads of Americans, like clearing all that brush around Crawford.


GravatarYeah, but the olentangy flows into the Scioto, so it all gets to Portsmouth eventually. I once steered a Viking boat down past the Point to the Santa Maria - we put in at a little tiny boat ramp behind the old power plant.

I need to get out of Columbus more!

The Viking boat trip sounds like fun. A chance to turn over a new Leif, perhaps.


GravatarIt remains to be seen which team is the Generals.

Given the number of times Bush has acceded to Osama's desires or been out-and-out punk'd by him, I think we have the answer to that already.


Gravatar"All this suggests that news of a serious terror threat boosts the president's ratings"

i know i feel so much safer with my 'daddy' chimp watching over me...


GravatarFuck the media and other Bush enablers...

There that felt better.


GravatarJesus, the GOP is apparently as stingy with their troll budget as Lieberman is with his website money.


GravatarI can't think of a single failure, loss or defeat bin Laden has suffered that has been comparable to what is normal for the Bush crime family.
yak

I like to think we've only played the first half and bin Laden has a slight lead.


GravatarI am disturbed at the LAT reports that 'people have adjusted quickly to new restrictions.'

I'm tired of adjusting to restrictions imposed on us by these fuckwad fearmongers.

AAR hired Armstrong Williams?

My listenership ends there.


GravatarIn any case, we're very amped. He rarely plays out anymore. I've never seen Waits and I've been waiting for a long, long time.

Cleveland Bob, I think you have a rare treat in store. Enjoy it to the fullest!


GravatarSo you guys are saying Bush is Colmes to Osama's Hannity???!!!


GravatarSo repubs are hoping for more terrorist threats against the US. I guess the jackpot for repubs would be a successful terrorist attack on the US.

In case somebody hasn't noticed: The "liberal media" is in an all out war against dems


GravatarIs "dipshit" really Dan Gerstein?

Quack. Limp. Quack. Limp. Quack. Limp.


GravatarWoody please remember that it's a rumor.

The person that told me is a nice person that doesn't have any reason to lie but nothing is official.
Not that anything ever is with AAR.


GravatarI think we should all email Air America to let them know that the day Williams goes on the air is the last day we'll tune in.


Gravatar{{{Karmic Jay!}}}


GravatarCleveland Bob -- Can't think of a better theater to hear him in. What a treat you're in for. Hope you give us your after-show review.
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Gravatarhey sally: howyafeelin?


GravatarThe person that told me is a nice person that doesn't have any reason to lie but nothing is official.

All the more reason to e-mail: more than a boycott, this means there's a shot at changing their minds if they see how callous this would be!


GravatarHiya Sallyh.


GravatarProfWombat--about the same, and youse?


GravatarThe Arlington Theatre in Santa Barbara is another magical venue.


Gravatari know i feel so much safer with my 'daddy' chimp watching over me...

Pity that "Daddy" is leaving Americans strapped in a car seat on a 100 degree day while he sips an ice cold beer at the racetrack.


GravatarI am disturbed at the LAT reports that 'people have adjusted quickly to new
restrictions.'

I'm tired of adjusting to restrictions imposed on us by these fuckwad
fearmongers.

AAR hired Armstrong Williams?

My listenership ends there.


Yeah, right.


GravatarIf they take Rachel Maddow and Sam Seder off I quit. They are the only talk show hosts who take their jobs seriously in my opinion. I can take Al when he has interesting guests, but I want more substance than, "This is what I think, aren't I right?"


GravatarKarmic Jay--how is the lovely Mrs. Karmic?


Gravatarsalyh: down with a gut bug today, but relatively unruffled. Mrs. Dr. W coming along rather nicely; she's starting to look pretty again.

Does Roto-Rooter do ENT?


GravatarSallyh, how are your sinuses?


GravatarI'm glad Malloy is moving to NYC. Does that mean he will be on here. I pick up his show from the White Rose Society.


GravatarAhianne: Yeah, but the olentangy flows into the Scioto, so it all gets to Portsmouth eventually.

Do they still have a Big Sandy Furniture there? I used to work there in the early '80s.
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Gravatar(*gasp*)

It's gotta be true..well..because NPR would never propogate the already disproven and laughed at propaganda put out by the lefist nutbgas...would they?
dipshit


Note the intake of breath before he spoke. He had to come up for air while he was blowing the goat.


GravatarCNN is even resurrecting the ghost of Osama, they're so desperate for ratings.

cnn is just utterly unwatchable any longer. the contempt they have for the american audience is evident thru the willfully uninformed and emotionalism of the content and ignorance of the 'anchors' that front their programming. the difference between the u.s. cnn and their international coverage is remarkable.


GravatarYeah, right.
steve simels | 08.12.06 - 12:11 pm |

ummm... tone of voice doesn't carry into the blogosphere...


GravatarShe is fine thanks. At work though today part of being a scientist and being in academics n all. Are you coming to NY for the non- Eschaton meet?

Hey Steve.


GravatarProfWombat--sorry about the gut bug. Mlle had one last night; she had to leave work early, although she attributes it to badly prepared clam chowder.

I've considered Roto-Rooter, or at least a power spray at the local car wash.


GravatarPlantsman--apparently, I still have them.

How's by you this morning?


GravatarWhere was it "already disproven", dipshit?

Give us the link, or shut the fuck up.
Jennifer | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:04


(sigh)...do I have to do everything for you lazy-assed libs?

Guess this means I don't have to STFU now, huh?


GravatarIf you and your ENT guy get tired of waiting, there are procedures to do that sort of thing...endoscopic tools make it a lot less of a do than it used to be. A last resort, though...


Gravatarheya Ql..

CNN is even resurrecting the ghost of Osama, they're so desperate for ratings.

Maybe they should show Daryn (rush's ex) blowing bigpharma live.. that might help their ratings..


GravatarKarmic Jay--I feel Mrs. Karmic's pain. Been there, done that, and got the oversized T shirt.


GravatarIt looks like WWRL, AAR's new flagship, is currently running Armstrong Williams in the AM. I have to doubt that if they're leasing the station for their own programming that he'd keep other paid programming on.


GravatarNot bad at all. Temperate weather, good health, good blog company. Itching to knock off Republican governance.


Gravatarthe difference between the u.s. cnn and their international coverage is remarkable.
linda - 12:14 pm


So they really do know how to do it, but choose not to.

Hope their ratings continue to slide.


GravatarWell, the confluence of the Olentangy and the Scioto is in Columbus, just north of downtown. The Viking boat is the Blackbird - a replica of the Gokstad faering, a small boat buried with the Gokstad ship. We've had her up at the Santa Maria a couple of times.


Gravatardipshit IS Dan Gerstein!


GravatarProfWombat--next step, if this fails to clear, is a head CT scan, to see what's going on. Endoscopy may be discussed, but it depends on whether we even reach that point.


GravatarGood afternoon, my fellow freethinkers.

Here's hoping my lameass namestealer is still in bed.


GravatarFunny, I just read in the Boston Globe today that Bushboy's popularity had sunk to a dangerously low 33%, reported, I believe, by Rasmussen.

So although terrorist threats may boost the moron's ratings in some areas, it seems that a vast majority of Americans have come to realize that Bushboy is a menace to our safety and not a guarantor.


GravatarIt doesn't mean you have to shut up; it does mean the issue isn't settled and can't be laid to Lamont's people without further evidence.


GravatarThanks for the background, Ahianne. My wife is of Norwegian descent. She'd get a kick out of that.


GravatarLooks to me like AAR is just changing space. Unless I am missing something, I don't see anything where they are hiring Armstrong Williams:

Air America Radio Moves To WWRL/New York

A long-rumored change becomes reality as the liberal Talk network will make a move from its current home at WLIB/New York to crosstown Access.1 Communications-owned Urban Talk WWRL beginning on September 1. Air America Radio says the change represents a new strategic alliance between the two companies that will provide a long-term flagship in New York City for AAR's network programs.

"We are thrilled about our new partnership with Air America,” said Access.1 President/COO Chesley Maddox-Dorsey about the just announced deal. "It is important that we partner in offering the nation's largest radio market a strong, progressive voice."

No word yet on the fate of WWRL's current line-up of programs, including the nationally syndicated shows, Doug Stephan's Good Day, ABC Radio Network's Larry Elder, and Fox News Radio's Alan Colmes, along with local shows hosted by Sam Greenfield and Armstrong Williams.

— Al Peterson, R&R News/Talk/Sports Editor


GravatarI've had endoscopic sinus surgery on one side. It's no panacea. I still had chronic sinus infections until my stroke got me out of greenhouses with warm moist, fungi-laden soils.


GravatarHello, my moonbats.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."


Thomas Jefferson


GravatarFunny, I just read in the Boston Globe today that Bushboy's popularity had sunk to a dangerously low 33%, reported, I believe, by Rasmussen.

So although terrorist threats may boost the moron's ratings in some areas, it seems that a vast majority of Americans have come to realize that Bushboy is a menace to our safety and not a guarantor.
Rudy |


I can't believe that 33% of this country is STILL that dumb.


Gravatarthe difference between the u.s. cnn and their international coverage is remarkable.
linda - 12:14 pm


Amen Linda Amen!


GravatarSallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

Damn, Sally, I'm sorry to hear you haven't gotten more improvement. Probably not a fifth as sorry as you are, but still . . .


GravatarYeah, CT is reasonable. I'd reculture, too, to cover that base. If he wants to get an MRI after the CT that's no cause for alarm--just another set of glasses to wear when looking at the thing.

Hard to keep it in mind when it's driving you nuts, but these things are almost always pains in the ass rather than real bad stuff, in case you get night thoughts...


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

Curse them mean ol' sinuses.
.


GravatarHi karmic_jay.

But that word image was yucky.


GravatarTERROR BUMP!!!

WhooHoooo!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarDipshit acts out of hate. It is no more a fan of Lieberman than Lamont. It is anti-democratic, pro-nothing.


GravatarJeffraham--but gotta love that Curly!!!


GravatarMaybe they should show Daryn (rush's ex) blowing bigpharma live.. that might help their ratings..

Maybe Daryn can do a segment about STDs. The program highlight can show her getting her own test results back.


GravatarYeah, right.
steve simels | 08.12.06 - 12:11 pm |

ummm... tone of voice doesn't carry into the blogosphere...
yak




Reminds me of two bits. One from Mr. Show with Bob and David, where David Cross plays a guy who writes sarcastic letters, always getting the opposite repsonse than he intended:

Jill: [rain soaked and hysterical] Oh Sharwood! I got your letter! I can't live without you either! You're right, we are perfect for each other! And, I hope you never die in a horrible car wreck either.

David: Learn how to read!

Then there's the Kids in the Hall bit, where Dave Foley has a speech impediment that makes everything he says sound sarcastic:

"No wait! Come back! I reeeeally want to be yooour friend...."


Gravatardipshit IS Dan Gerstein!
Marwood - 12:18 pm


Quack. Limp. Quack. Limp. Quack. Limp.


Gravatarhey Jeff: rock on...


GravatarWell, the Lieberman campaign spokesman SAID they had paid their bill and it was more than $15, so that totally settles the argument.

I'm going to start voting for Republicans so that anything I WANT to believe automatically becomes a fact.


Gravatar"'There are measures that can be implemented to protect against this type of attack,' Smith said. (Smith being an internet security expert, according to a paragraph above) 'I think they went a little cheap here. This kind of looked like a low-budget hosting service.'"

"Geary acknowledged that he has no idea who hacked into the site."

You can resume shutting the fuck up.


GravatarSo you guys are saying Bush is Colmes to Osama's Hannity???!!!
lipreader


More like Charlie McCarthy to Cheney's Edgar Bergen.


GravatarDamn, Sally, I'm sorry to hear you haven't gotten more improvement. Probably not a fifth as sorry as you are, but still . . .
Virginia - 12:21 pm


sallyh, i'm plumb sorry for your continued discomfort...
sinuses, innit?
have you had your adnoids examined?
when i was a kid, i got a strep embedded in there that wouldn't stop, and--since i'd had rheumatic fever, which is a strep infection--they removed 'em, bag and baggage when i was about 10...


GravatarProfWombat--he's going to reculture, I'm sure, assuming it doesn't subside, which I'm still hoping it will. It is maddening to have it, but at the same time, I'm grateful he isn't rushing into anything. That makes me uncomfortable.


Gravatar"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."

Thomas Jefferson
Terry C, Outright Partisan


Thanks, Terry C. That's a keeper.


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham--but gotta love that Curly!!!

If my connection improves, I'll put up some new Curly-Q, ASAP.
.


Gravatarkarmicjay

We're gonna be in your lovely city the last weekend in September to look at condos with the lovely RE lady you suggested. Perhaps we can have dinner?


Gravatarsallyh: like I said before, the vibes I get are that he's one of the good guys...could you still tast Calvados were it supplied to you?


GravatarAAR is not "hiring" Armstrong Williams.

What I've heard is that they will now syndicate his show.

Like Stephanie Miller is broadcast on some AAR stations but works for Jones Communications.


GravatarKids In the Hall "Sarcastic Lonely Guy":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...h?v=JwK- 2qgBPrk

And I'm out of here for awhile.


GravatarBut that word image was yucky.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:21 pm |


Sowwy.. HBK. How's you?

Sallyh I hope you get relief from the sinuses.

Heh I get weekend headaches. My theory.. I go from very long busy days, less sleep to relaxed weekends. I think smothing is me complains about the sudden change lol.


GravatarJP - there's a Big Sandy downtown, on 9th I think. There may also be one on Gallia, near Big Lots and the Taco Bell. There's also a Chinese buffet place where there used to be a steakhouse near Kmart; it has a little bit of sushi in its cold section. Can you believe that - sushi in Scioto County!


GravatarProfWombat--not so well as I used to. I've mostly been drinking vodka because, really, it doesn't matter


GravatarWGG: they bloody well didn't want you to have recurrent strep infections after your rheumatic fever; that's a setup for bad trouble with the heart valves...


GravatarFunny, I just read in the Boston Globe today that Bushboy's popularity had sunk to a dangerously low 33%, reported, I believe, by Rasmussen.

That was before I got my Terror Bump!

I love Terror, don't you?

Dick and Karl say it's good for the country. Sure has hell helped me along.


GravatarIntelligence chiefs looking at transatlantic phone calls

The FBI was investigating possible connections between the men arrested in London and people in the US. In a round of television interviews, the White House homeland security adviser Frances Townsend confirmed that "there are leads that the FBI is running".

Senior US intelligence officials told the Washington Post that some of the alleged plotters had made telephone calls to the US. Other sources said that in the days before the arrests in London, the FBI has sent hundreds of agents across the US to chase down leads from British intelligence. But sources said that none of the suspected plotters had travelled to the US.


GravatarIntelligence chiefs looking at transatlantic phone calls

The FBI was investigating possible connections between the men arrested in London and people in the US. In a round of television interviews, the White House homeland security adviser Frances Townsend confirmed that "there are leads that the FBI is running".

Senior US intelligence officials told the Washington Post that some of the alleged plotters had made telephone calls to the US. Other sources said that in the days before the arrests in London, the FBI has sent hundreds of agents across the US to chase down leads from British intelligence. But sources said that none of the suspected plotters had travelled to the US.


GravatarMore like Charlie McCarthy to Cheney's Edgar Bergen.
Terry C, Outright Partisan


Bush is Howdy, and Cheney is Doody.


Gravatarsallyh: to recall that it does infact matter is a step back from the madness. Love ya, kid...


Gravatar it does mean the issue isn't settled and can't be laid to Lamont's people without further evidence.

Well, actually, given that dipshit's information is 2 days old (from date of publication) and the Lieberman campaign has been able to post a message to the site, it pretty much indicates that much of what was in the piece dipshit linked to is bullshit speculation.

Question two: if they were hacked in June, didn't that suggest to them that their hosting had some problems and should perhaps be moved?

Last but not least: a hundred dollars a month is still not a huge hosting budget. It's bigger than $15, to be sure, but it's not a princely sum and probably doesn't buy a whole lot more than the $15 would buy in terms of state of the art security, capacity, and agility.

The hacking allegations remain unproven, as do the identity of the alleged hackers and their alleged motivation for the hacking.

In short, it's just more wanking.


GravatarWhere's VV? We could teach her some more chords...


GravatarIncidentally, here's the fighting Dems' website. I really have to profess a little surprise and irritation that they're not being pushed enough by some people. For fuck's sake, would they not destroy the GOP 'better-at-security' narrative among any voters with the slightest open minds?

http://www.fighting-dems.com/


GravatarWGG: they bloody well didn't want you to have recurrent strep infections after your rheumatic fever; that's a setup for bad trouble with the heart valves...
ProfWombat - 12:27 pm


i'm prob'ly lookin at angioplasty (minimum) some time in the next year...

it did damage a valve (mytral-valve prolapse)...funny, a heart murmur didn't disqualify me from service in '64...wish sometimes i'd had one o'them pilonidal cysts...


GravatarPerhaps foolishily, I have investigated dipshit's link. I probably don't need to say that there is nothing anywhere in the article that implies that our suspicions are wrong, and one piece that totally vindicates them:

"
The campaign spends about $100 to $150 a month on Web hosting services with MyHostCamp, said Dan Geary, who administers the site for the campaign. Geary said that MyHostCamp, which is owned by a friend of Geary's, gave the site more than enough bandwidth -- 200 gigabytes a month -- to handle a crush of visitors
"

Anyone remember what Kos said? Others spend seven thousand dollars on hosting; according to the comm master of LieberYouth, they spend less than two hundred dollars. Now, the actual quote was $15, but the difference between $7000 and $150 is not significantly different from the gap between $7000 and $15. This is still disqualifyingly less than a ballpark minimum, and the most probable explanation.
(And it has been my experience that all these right-wing webmasters have a scant idea of what they're doing.)


GravatarI suspect may be with a certain Greek, asleep or otherwise occupied.


GravatarI shall provide.


Gravatarkarmicjay
We're gonna be in your lovely city the last weekend in September to look at condos with the lovely RE lady you suggested. Perhaps we can have dinner?
ql in ny | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:25 pm


Sounds like a plan, e-mail us the details. We are thrilled at the idea of being able to meet you again.

Hi WGG, Uncle Smokes!


GravatarI am disturbed at the LAT reports that 'people have adjusted quickly to new
restrictions.'

I'm tired of adjusting to restrictions imposed on us by these fuckwad
fearmongers.


Sallyh, for better or worse I'm pretty much a homebody and (reluctantly) a workbody; I'm mildly embarrassed to admit that visiting France in 1979 was my one and only airline trip. The dubious post-9/11 security procedures have only reinforced my aversion to air travel, alas!

But even from the sidelines, I very much agree with your sentiments. The corporate media's coverage of these kinds of alleged terrorist actions always includes clips of affected travellers who are inconvenienced and aggravated by draconian restrictions, but who unfailingly express understanding and support for the measures.

If anyone has seen clips of a furious traveller sputtering, "This is all bullshit, and y'all must be out of your fucking minds ripping off my toiletries for no goddamn good reason!" please correct me.

It's OK to express dismay and distress at the delay and aggravation precipitated by the ad hoc restrictions, but in my experience it's obligatory to at least imply that the restrictions are a good and necessary thing. As I noted the other day, I always bow in Chomsky's direction when I see "manufacturing consent" in action.

It is a sad commentary on human inability to resist returning to lizard-brain logic. That irrational fear and need to feel secure so easily overwhelms critical thinking-- thus, the predictable Bounce of the Sheeple towards our feckless leader when the shadow of a wolf appears.


Gravatari watch msnbc all the time, especially the prison shows, ya gotta know how to act and what to expect when we're all rounded up...


Gravatar"'There are measures that can be implemented to protect against this type of attack,' Smith said. (Smith being an internet security expert, according to a paragraph above) 'I think they went a little cheap here. This kind of looked like a low-budget hosting service.'"

"Geary acknowledged that he has no idea who hacked into the site."

You can resume shutting the fuck up.
fourmorewars | 08.12.06 - 12:24 pm


Umm.. no...I don't think I have to. It was an attack as the excerpt you posted clearly states, and not a shut off of service due to an unpaid bill, as the idiot above claimed NPR said.

obtuse??...much??


GravatarI suspect VV may be with a certain Greek, asleep or otherwise occupied.

Oops.


GravatarMy favorite hero on The Tick was "Sarcastro," a guy who dressed like Fidel and whose superpower was biting sarcasm.


GravatarHi WGG, Uncle Smokes!
karmicjay - 12:31 pm


yo, kj...how's wichew and mrs kj?

haven't seen ya fer a coupla weeks, seems like...you all doin goodish?


GravatarIt "appeared" to have been a DOS attack. Not IT WAS.


GravatarThers lives!


GravatarThe Goopers will be milking the waronterror for all it's worth in the election campaign.

They're already floating the flotsam that with the recent terror scare, wouldn't you rather have someone like Bushboy guarding you than some liberal who wants to pull out of Iraq?!?

Nevermind that Iraq has made the terrorist threat worse or that no human on the planet is ever better off with Bushboy or a Gooper in the WH, as they are dangerous to all living things.


GravatarAhianne: JP - there's a Big Sandy downtown, on 9th I think. There may also be one on Gallia, near Big Lots and the Taco Bell.

Back around 1983, there was just the one, near the bridge that connects over to U.S. 23.

Can you believe that - sushi in Scioto County!

I'll believe anything!
.


GravatarOrdinary friends who grew devout together

As small boys they walked the few hundred yards to primary school together every day. At 3.15pm they ran out of the school gates to kick a football in the street and buy sweets in the nearby shop. When they became teenagers their interests were those of most young men: Premiership football, girls, clothes and music; and as young adults they grew devout together.

In Walthamstow, which emerged yesterday as one of the focal points of the alleged plot to blow up transatlantic airliners, those who knew the nine young men arrested from their family homes by anti-terrorist police on Thursday morning insisted they were ordinary boys with unremarkable lives.

Thirteen of the 19 addresses of suspects were registered in east London - most of them were clustered within a 500-metre radius.


GravatarFidel is a pretty sarcastic motherfucker too.


GravatarOops.
plantsman,


I do declare. We know entirely too much about each other's lives.


GravatarDoing fine thanks, just been busy and not able to comment, but trust me have been peeking in at the crack den regularly. Need my daily fix hea


GravatarGeary also seems to be either ignorantly or deliberately confusing "hacking" with a denial of service attack.


GravatarAnd... new Curly-Q!
.


GravatarMarwood - I don't know when we're going to have the boat up in Columbus again. We need to replace the boat traler axle, and the guy that led our bunch of amateur boat builders and keeps the boat in his garage is planning to move to Charleston WV.

SallyH - sorry to hear you're still unwell. Get well!


GravatarBesides, who's to say that Lieberman's puny little site didn't collapse from legitimate visits generated by people far and wide feeling the Joementum?


but seriously, folks....


GravatarWGG: some ridiculous percentage of asymptomatic folk have mitral prolapse; it'll probably never get to you. The arteries (angioplasty) don't relate to the rheumatic fever, but to things like diet, exercise, smoking tobacco and the cards your parents dealt ya, the scalawags...hope things go OK. I'll learn to curse if you're disabled, and try to fill in the void, though I surely don't welcome the prospect and would far rather continue being pompous...


GravatarThe hacking allegations remain unproven, as do the identity of the alleged hackers and their alleged motivation for the hacking.

In short, it's just more wanking.
Jennifer | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 12:29 pm |


Umm..Shorter Jennifer...wasn't the issue that the idiot above was claiming that NPR was pushing the lie that Liberman didn't pay his bill and his service was terminated?

Huh? Wasn't it?


GravatarQL..look forward to seeing you both when you come to town. Let us know.


GravatarConvert to Islam among suspects

Police imposed a three-mile no-fly zone over streets in High Wycombe yesterday as they renewed their search of five properties and sought fresh information about the group of terror suspects arrested 24 hours earlier.

Key to the investigation was the search for more details about how the association among an apparently disparate group of people came about. Locals said they did not know of any radical organisations that might have been a unifying factor. The widespread assumption was that they were joined by geography. Many of the houses raided are in close proximity.

One of the figures being singled out for intense scrutiny was Umar Islam, 28, formerly known as Brian Young, who was arrested in London in the early hours of Thursday morning but grew up in High Wycombe. Anti-terrorist squad officers are examining the possibility that he may have provided a link between the group detained in London and those arrested in Buckinghamshire. Yesterday his mother Sylvia expressed disbelief at the arrest. "I don't even believe it," she said.


GravatarJeffraham--he is such a love sponge, isn't he?

Love sponge kitties are the bestest.


GravatarHi WGG, Uncle Smokes!
karmicjay


Oops, almost lost a greeting in the thread flow.

Hey there, Karmic Jay! It's been much too long since we met at EschaCon.


GravatarThers lives!

Sort of...


GravatarIf anyone has seen clips of a furious traveller sputtering, "This is all bullshit, and y'all must be out of your fucking minds ripping off my toiletries for no goddamn good reason!" please correct me.


Might happen more often if they knew about this bullshit.

It's all "security theatre", as the ultimate disposal of all those items that are confiscated proves:

In Pennsylvania, state officials were considering pulling some discarded items for a state program that resells on eBay any items of value relinquished at airport security checkpoints, said Edward Myslewicz, spokesman for the General Services Department.


Gravatar Blind allegiance to George W. Bush and his failed "stay the course" strategy is not being strong on national security. And no, Senator Lieberman, no matter how you demonize your opponents, there is no "antisecurity wing" of the Democratic Party.

john kerry was my first choice, i reckon he's DOA, but wesley clark was my second choice, and he actually won a war. smart son of bitch too. smart matters. "the danger is we may be hit again" if we have stupid fuck'n morons running the country. and we do.


Gravatar"Travel Experts" have been pointing out how packing laptops, IPods, etc. in checked baggage exposes them to pilfering in the baggage area. NTodd had such and experience not long ago, I believe. No good solution.


GravatarIt is a sad commentary on human inability to resist returning to lizard-brain logic. That irrational fear and need to feel secure so easily overwhelms critical thinking-- thus, the predictable Bounce of the Sheeple towards our feckless leader when the shadow of a wolf appears.
Little Brøther


NTodd pointed out in his latest, and others have observed, that if the concern is of people taking explosive liquids onto planes, the solution of having gallons and gallons of stuff thrown into large trash containers in every airport. Seems outrageously stupid, and yet no one asks why that would be a good idea?


GravatarIn an age of massive new security service expansion, America is suffering a terrifying wave of elephantine scale data theft. WMR:

Aug. 12/13, 2006 -- Another day and another personal data theft report. Some 6,000 patients of the Madrona Medical Group in Bellingham, Washington, are the latest victims of data theft, a pandemic across the United States. A former employee of the medical group was arrested for illegally downloading patient names, Social Security Numbers, dates of birth, and other sensitive information to his lap top computer. The perpetrator was arrested on June 8.


GravatarLittle Brother--my suspicion is that plenty of people are hopping mad; I think they're just not getting air time.


GravatarSo this is the Republican message? "Vote for us or we'll burn your Goddamn country to the fucking ground, you stupid motherfucker!"

Screw that, try them all for war crimes and let's make our country free again.


GravatarDOS, KOS, vut's the diff?

I listened to part of "Wait, Wait, Don't tell me, already!" in the car just now. The contestant and all of the panel and moderator were freely ridiculing Unka Joe and his Me-Me Party.


Gravatarif the threat has been 'dealt with' why the security measures?

to me it seems like a fear tactic.


Gravatar Umm.. no...I don't think I have to. It was an attack as the excerpt you posted clearly states, and not a shut off of service due to an unpaid bill, as the idiot above claimed NPR said.

obtuse??...much??
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 12:31 pm | #


You really should be attending your local summer school and catching up on your reading comprehension skills right now, shouldn't you? Forget the snippet I posted, there is NOWHERE IN THE ENTIRE ARTICLE where they "clearly state" that it was an attack. The expert *thinks* it was an attack, but even he doesn't know, and what I pasted shows he leaves room for doubt. Only in the lazily-written headline is it assumed there was an attack.

So, stop watching those cartoons and get back to class.


GravatarI hope some of you will enjoy my latest animation and give me some feedback!

http://cultureofabuse.cf.huffing...ingtonpost.com/


GravatarI imagine the duty free retaliers aren't going to be happy with loss of business.


GravatarSomeday I hope we'll perform a group experiment to see just how long idiots like dipshit continue spewing if they are utterly ignored.

I know, I know -- I'm not without sin, and I am not casting stones. Just dreamin' of a better day.


GravatarLater folks. Enjoy your weekend!!


GravatarLouis Lapham's column in this month's Harper's is, as usual, a timely gem.

He relates how the corporate patrons of Bushboy & the Goopers are feasting at the government trough like the pigs they are, war profiteering at (middleclass and below) taxpayer's expense, while the sons and daughters of the same taxpayers bleed to death in Iraq.

There's something very wrong with this picture but don't expect to be seeing it on your TV screen MSM program anytime soon....


GravatarShorter dipshit: "Anything I hear on NPR must be a lie, but anything I read in Business Week is revealed biblical truth."


GravatarHey there, Karmic Jay! It's been much too long since we met at EschaCon.
Uncle Smokes - 12:36 pm


yo. Smokes...

you're in the Mountain Zone, iirc...

what's chances you might slide south for the EschaState Fair???
ain't laid eyes on ya since this time last year, and did enjoy makin' yr acquaintance then...


GravatarFunny, I just read in the Boston Globe today that Bushboy's popularity had sunk to a dangerously low 33%, reported, I believe, by Rasmussen.

AP/Ipsos.


GravatarYes, the Joementum ran into a bad spot of Liebernertia.


GravatarPlus, I think Bush's poll numbers are far below that. It's just that people are becoming afraid if they express opposition to a pollster, the secret police will eventually come and round them up. It's becoming that sort of a country.


GravatarI just found out there's a dog called a Saint Berdoodle: about the size of a Saint Bernard, doesn't shed or drool, friendly and playful, longer lived. Always liked big dogs: if I wanted a cat, I'd have gotten a cat...

http:// thepoodleanddogblog.typep...ait_of_the.html


GravatarMoonbotica--there was a small article on that in the LAT business section, the only part of the paper that occasionally reports real news.

The idea that I won't be able to take Vermont maple syrup home with me when I travel next week outrages me, and as far
as I'm concerned, they can have my overpriced Clarins lip gloss when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.


GravatarI know in one clip I saw, a TSA agent took a bottle of Ravenswood red wine from a woman. Bet she was pleased.


Gravatar"Travel Experts" have been pointing out how packing laptops, IPods, etc. in checked baggage exposes them to pilfering in the baggage area. NTodd had such and experience not long ago, I believe. No good solution.
plantsman, lowercase


Well, I suppose you could UPS or FedEx overnight the electronics to your destination, but that would be expensive, and quite inconvenient for a business traveller.


GravatarI thought Louis Lapham has retired from EIC at Harpers.


GravatarNPR was pushing the lie that Liberman didn't pay his bill and his service was terminated?

Huh? Wasn't it?
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 12:36 pm


Hey dipshit!

Quack. Limp. Quack. Limp. Quack. Limp.


GravatarLapham may have retired as EIC but he still contributes.

Thankfully!


GravatarUmm..Shorter Jennifer...wasn't the issue that the idiot above was claiming that NPR was pushing the lie that Liberman didn't pay his bill and his service was terminated?

Uh, no, dipshit, and have I complimented you lately for choosing such an appropriate handle?

The "idiot" above was someone who was saying "so and so told me they heard this on NPR, has anyone else heard this?" In other words, the "idiot" was QUESTIONING the information rather than putting it forward as a FACT. (Note to dipshit: in English, as well as at least most of the European languages, you can discern a "question" from a "statement of fact" by looking for this nifty little clue called a "question mark". Which looks like this: ?)

That was all. No one "claimed" anything; someone asked a question based on something they had heard from someone else; they made clear that they hadn't heard it themselves; and they further clarified that they were making a query by the inclusion of a question mark.

Any other questions, dipshit?

(Note use of question mark at end of sentence above, in this case, questioning whether or not you still need guidance in understanding the issue and not, as you might assume, questioning whether or not you are indeed a dipshit.)


GravatarSallyh, you can double Ziploc the syrup, and pack it in your checked bag, you just can't carry it aboard to your seat or the overhead bin.


GravatarUncle Smokes--it's what I do now when I have to attend a conference. I used to take the laptop on pleasure trips. No more.


GravatarPlus, I think Bush's poll numbers are far below that. It's just that people are becoming afraid if they express opposition to a pollster, the secret police will eventually come and round them up. It's becoming that sort of a country.
Mark B. in Austin Texas


I can't remember the source, but I recall reading a pollster (Zogby?) discussing how a certain percentage of the population will express support for the President basically no matter what. I suppose that worked for Clinton, too, but he didn't really need that automatic 3-4% to stay out of historically low approval levels.


Gravatarsallyh: where are you traveling?


Gravatarif I wanted a cat, I'd have gotten a cat...
ProfWombat - 12:40 pm


i dunno if you have experience with big poodles, but they are reallllly good dogs...smart, loving, mellow, and they mostly don't shed...the standard and imperial poodles are truly among the monarchs of dogdom...

i don't generally select my dogs--they select me, normally...
if i were gonna actually go lookin for a dog, it might well be a big poodle...


GravatarYears ago, I used to take several medium format cameras in carry-on. They always attracted a lot of attention from the security folks, because they were 3-4 times the size and weight of 35mm cameras. I wouldn't even attempt it these days.


GravatarFrom the front page of today's edition of The Daily Sport


GravatarClinton had fairly high approval pollings--in the 60s even at the height of his impeachment, if I recall correctly. if he weren't barred from running, I'd bet on his winning again.


GravatarProfWombat--MA and RI, but it's a whirlwind family show off the baby trip.

I can't wait till it's over.


Gravatar I can't remember the source, but I recall reading a pollster (Zogby?) discussing how a certain percentage of the population will express support for the President basically no matter what. I suppose that worked for Clinton, too, but he didn't really need that automatic 3-4% to stay out of historically low approval levels.
Doc | 08.12.06 - 12:43 pm | #


Could we please have SOME pollsters come armed with certain questions, like 'were you aware that Ashcroft's budget, sent to Congress the day before 9/11, allocated NOT ONE CENT for counterterrorism?' Then see if there's maybe a little dip in the level of confidence in the president?


GravatarInteresting thought: we hav now all been over Bush exploiting the British phoney terror plot for Bush's political gain in the states. And of course the castigation of insufficiently loyal internal elements of the government. Anyone remember where Blair was as all this was happening? Well, of course both he and his Texan boyfriend were on vacation -- neither saw the plot as serious enough to interrupt their vacations, although both approved of humiliating and impotent airport measures -- but politically where was he? He was under siege by his own party, burnt out over constant terror and Iraq and finally pushed too far by the world's silence over the massacre of Lebanon.


GravatarThat Business Week article is hilarious:

"The campaign spends about $100 to $150 a month on Web hosting services with MyHostCamp, said Dan Geary, who administers the site for the campaign. Geary said that MyHostCamp, which is owned by a friend of Geary's, gave the site more than enough bandwidth -- 200 gigabytes a month -- to handle a crush of visitors."

$150 a month?

Kos was down for a while on primary night, and he has what, like 14 servers just for his site? And Geary is blowing all of $150 and screeching about a DOS attack?

What a joke.


GravatarInteresting to note that in the past two weeks the Gooper Congress tried to eliminate the Estate Tax, which yields an approximate $70 billion/year to the US Treasury, while trying to cut back on the $6.8 billion/year jobs training programs.

And of course, the unscrupulous Goopers tried to tempt the Dems into voting for this rape of the Treasury by raising the minimum wage for the first time in 10 years to the paltry amount of $7/hour over a couple of years.


GravatarAlthough I have nothing but sympathy for travelers who have valuable items confiscated, and who are horribly inconvenienced by the baggage screening process for no good security reason,

I must admit I despise the idiots who try to drag a steamer trunk in as carry-on, then try to bend the laws of physics by trying to stuff the damned thing in the overhead, necessitating the intervention of two flight attendants.


GravatarIncreasingly, Bush Escapes the Media Pack
Press Cuts Converge With Closed Events
By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, August 12, 2006; Page A01

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- On one of the scariest days yet in the five-year battle with terrorists, President Bush prepared to make a speech to reassure the American people. But the White House press corps was 1,000 miles away in Texas.
Bush had left his ranch vacation and jetted north for a scheduled closed-door fundraiser. No press plane accompanied him. And so when news broke that Britain had broken up a major terrorist plot, the only ones there to convey the president's reaction were a handful of local reporters and a few pool journalists who ride in the back of Air Force One.

Awww. Poow widdle Geowgie


Gravatarhe didn't really need that automatic 3-4% to stay out of historically low approval levels.
Doc


I'm not sure what you're saying there, but Clinton was always very popular. I don't think he was ever as low as the current idiot, who is getting at least a 10% boost from the fear factor. If we weren't at war, he'd be in Nixon territory, or below. Which is why he's trying to make sure the state of war lasts as long as he is in office, IMO.


GravatarHezbollah issues caveat on UN deal

Hezbollah says it will abide by a UN-backed ceasefire, but will continue to resist Israeli troops as long as they remain in Lebanon.

Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah's leader, said on Saturday that his fighters would observe the UN resolution ending fighting once the timing of the truce was agreed and adhered to by Israel.

"We will not be an obstacle to any [government] decision that it finds appropriate, but our ministers will express reservations about articles [in the UN resolution] that we consider unjust and unfair," he said in a speech broadcast on Hezbollah's Al-Manar television.


GravatarWGG: yeah, big poodles are great--smart, funny, playful. I have been informed by my wife that replacing my Great Pyrenees dog on her thankfully and hopefully distant demise with a big dog that sheds, much less drools, would result in Repercussions...


GravatarZombie Thers lurches forth, mumbling "Bacon, bacon....." - I take it the flu still has you in its grippe.

dipshit obviously believes in truth in nom-de-blog labelling.


GravatarDoc--no arguments with you there. On the other hand, lip gloss, bottled water, hand cream, a book and an iPod make travel much more palatable, and don't take up much space.


GravatarBlair keeps faith in Reid and Prescott to handle terror alert

Political fallout PM resists calls to return from holiday and recall parliament


Tony Blair was last night resisting calls to return from holiday and recall parliament in the face of renewed pressure from MPs.

The prime minister talked to John Prescott, the deputy prime minister yesterday, about the terror threat, and continued to make calls on the Middle East, from the boat in the Caribbean where he is on holiday.

Officials conceded the prime minister has discussed returning home, but say he is nervous of appearing to issue an effective vote of no-confidence in the handling of the terror threat. He believes home secretary John Reid and Mr Prescott have handled the crisis effectively.

"If he's going to come back there has to be something only he can do," one official said. That moment has not yet arrived, Downing Street argues. "It's still primarily an operational issue."


Gravatara big dog that sheds, much less drools, would result in Repercussions...
ProfWombat | 08.12.06 - 12:48 pm


A Great Pyroodle might just answer...


GravatarHas Lieberman been drummed out of the Senate yet for betraying his party and the voters in his state? If not, why not? I volunteer to help. I'll bring drums.


GravatarWhat I was saying is that Clinton would have had high approval levels without needing an extra bounce from anyone who gives a president knee-jerk support.

I think that the 33-35% that Bush is able to muster these days would be much lower without some of the psychological dynamics associated with answering polls.


GravatarAfternoon, folks.

How's your Life in Wartime?


Gravataryo. Smokes...

you're in the Mountain Zone, iirc...

what's chances you might slide south for the EschaState Fair???
ain't laid eyes on ya since this time last year, and did enjoy makin' yr acquaintance then...
WoodyGuthriesDolchstossblog


Actually, I'm Central, in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

Alas, I've already reserved time for a little to-do in New York City that Res ipsa Loquitor put together. As a hermit who loves people, I'm terrifically terrified at the prospect of my first visit to one of the premiere World Cities.

The closest I ever came is three days in Dublin (spending half a in London doesn't really count).

However, a visit to New Mexico would be could for my soul. My family used to take summer vacation there, usually in Red River.

Mom & Dad loved to fish. I loved to stomp through the woods looking for the perfect stick, a wizard's staff for use in my mystical domain of aspens shimmering in the breeze and pine wafting gorgeous from an afternoon rain.

I will try to get down your way some time soon. My cousin lives in Hillsboro, NM. Talk about going south!


GravatarThe Goopers are irrefutably the party of false hopes and false fears.

With the reputed drop in the deficit this year, you can be assured that the Goopers will be claiming that their tax cuts for the rich is "working." Of course it's bullshit. The tax cuts continue to cost the Treasury hundreds of billions and could cost more if they are permanently implemented. In addition, the so called deficits leaves out a lot of costs that are put into a mythical "off budget" account, such as the war costs for Iraq and Afghanistan.

And the false fear the Goopers will be plying is their tried and untrue, "We're gonna' protect you better in the waronterror!"


GravatarRestrictions remain in place for immediate future

Passengers will face far more stringent security checks at airports in future, ministers confirmed yesterday. But it was unclear last night how soon the ban on taking hand luggage aboard aircraft will be lifted. Whitehall sources suggested it could extend deep into next week.

The transport secretary, Douglas Alexander, said details of the new regime were still being discussed with the airline industry: "A new set of security arrangements will be issued. It will be a regime that recognises and deals with the terrorist threat but is capable of operating in an environment that is as busy as an airport."

Mr Alexander and the home secretary, John Reid, attended an emergency meeting of the National Aviation Security Council yesterday afternoon. They updated industry officials on the security situation and consulted them on the effect of the measures introduced on Thursday. But they gave no guidance on when the restrictions would be lifted or whether they would be the cornerstone of the security regime to be issued by Mr Alexander's department.


GravatarWGG: there ya go...


GravatarHow's your Life in Wartime?

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco,This ain't no fooling around


GravatarI take it the flu still has you in its grippe.

Yeah, I'm better today than yesterday, though that may be because the doc gave me sompe powerful stuff to help me sleep, and I'm still nodding...


GravatarDoc--no arguments with you there. On the other hand, lip gloss, bottled water, hand cream, a book and an iPod make travel much more palatable, and don't take up much space.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Certainly, and I almost always carry on one piece of luggage (usually a backpack or briefcase) myself, with a minimum of a change of underwear and other essentials in case my checked luggage gets lost.

If they start banning books, then I'm going to get really pissed.


GravatarDoc--don't forget how the questions are structured as well. Many of them are phrased in such a way as to facilitate a certain type of response.


GravatarThis ain't no party, this ain't no disco,This ain't no fooling around

I've got some groceries, some peanut butter

But I'm not allowed to take them on a plane


GravatarIf they start banning books, then I'm going to get really pissed.

Burned all my notebooks, what good are Notebooks? they won't help me survive

[more talking heads]


GravatarI will try to get down your way some time soon. My cousin lives in Hillsboro, NM. Talk about going south!
Uncle Smokes - 12:53 pm


Hillsboro? gotta be another recluse, one of the four people who live there...
hillsboro's the gateway to the Black Mts, and a 'shortcut' to SilverCity...gotta sis living ovcer there with her ex-marine/ex-drunk/stillasshole husband and a coupla really xian sons and their families...

i avoid it like the fucking plague...


GravatarWe close the barn after the horse has left.

They're already floating the flotsam that with the recent terror scare, wouldn't you rather have someone like Bushboy guarding you than some liberal who wants to pull out of Iraq?!?

Nevermind that Iraq has made the terrorist threat worse or that no human on the planet is ever better off with Bushboy or a Gooper in the WH, as they are dangerous to all living things.
Rudy - 12:33 pm


We have measures in place to prevent another 9-11 attack using (who would ever have guessed) planes.

As a fail-safe NORAD promises this time to be ready.

In response to terrorists threatening to blow up planes over the Atlantic using liquid explosives, we now have measures in place to stop this.

Feel secure.

AFTER each breach of security, we say we will do something to prevent it from happening in the future.


Gravatarsallyh: if there's a lull in the action and you're near Boston I'd be delighted to meet you. If not this time, then next, perhaps...


GravatarI've already reserved time for a little to-do in New York City

Never been to NYC! Whoa.

We'll give you the grand tour...


GravatarNasrallah and the UNSC 1701


GravatarDoc--for domestic flights, everything I need I'm able to stuff in my purse. For international flights, I need a few extra creature comforts (additional books, soft slippers, headrest), so I do take a backpack for that.


GravatarThe BRITISH POLICE thwarted a terror plot and didn't even inform the Bush Fuckupistration about it until two weeks ago because they did not trust the lying scumbags with the information and this is a BOOST for the Chimperor?


GravatarBurned all my notebooks, what good are Notebooks? they won't help me survive

well, if they're books like the wilderness guide and feasting free on wild edibles...


GravatarAFTER each breach of security, we say we will do something to prevent it from happening in the future.

Well, thank god they didn't do this kind of shit back in the Sixties.

I can imagine Bush speaking from just outside a safe distance from the radioactive smoking ruins of Boston, saying how he's realized the Soviets are a threat he must protect us from...


GravatarI very much agree, Sallyh. That's why I referenced the concept of manufacturing consent.

It's the same technique applied to politics in general: the political and corporate elite control mass media, and selectively present information to reinforce public perception and opinion to serve their ends.

(DWD wrote a pretty good book about it.)

On a slight tangent, sometimes it surprises me when otherwise appropriately enlightened and cynical people don't share my outrage on what are IMO particularly offensive sequelae to dubious security measures.

I had already been vaguely aware that confiscated and forfeited materials collected at airports were actually warehoused and sold-- I haven't investigated the details, but I believe that the airports acquire the proceeds. Or is it the gummint?

Anyway, I was sputtering about this to a friend the other day, and she immediately replied, "Well, if people are dragging stuff to the airport that they know they're not allowed to take on the plane, they deserve to have it confiscated."

It's not like I expect people to always share my ubiquitous outrage, but she parried my complaint by raising a worst-case scenario. I hadn't said anything one way or the other about whether some confiscations were reasonable and necessary; I was bothered by the idea of presumably innocent travellers becoming second-class persons whose property was subject to capricious and arbitrary confiscation, and that the confiscators could dispose of such confiscated property for fun and profit.

Joseph Conrad called resignation "the greatest social virtue". That's always bothered me.


Gravatar this is a BOOST for the Chimperor?
The Old Man From Scene 24


Sure! Chertoff was all over the place taking credit for it. GWB talked about "our efforts," didn't he?

Damn, he's good.


GravatarCollective punishment against Lebanese civilians


GravatarDoc--don't forget how the questions are structured as well. Many of them are phrased in such a way as to facilitate a certain type of response.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Question: Have you stopped beating your wife?

Poll conclusion: 87% of respondents have beaten their wife!


GravatarOh, BTW - first detractor on my blog! Wheee! Hate mail! Hate mail!

Except it wasn't very hateful, just more kind of stupid and patronizing. But you post with the comments you have, not the comments you want.


GravatarHas anybody addressed the suicide aspect of this airliner bomb plot? I mean, were twenty people really ready to kill themselves?


GravatarIf they start banning books, then I'm going to get really pissed.
Doc

BOOK BOMBS!!!

TERROR BUMP!!!

WhooHooo!!!!


GravatarGooper claims that Bushboy is a "protector of America" would be hilariously funny if it weren't for the fact that too many Americans actually take it seriously.

I means here's a depraved moron in the WH who failed to take action when warned of an imminent terrorist attack in August of 2001, who failed to take action when confronted with a terrorist attack on 9/11, who failed to capture or kill Osama when we had him trapped in Tora Bora, who failed in Iraq, who failed with Katrina, who fails so often it's become to tedious for the MSM to even report!


Gravatarhttp://today.reuters.com/news/ar...-C3-worldNews- 3

Israel attacks convoy fleeing south Lebanon
Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:06pm ET
(Reuters) - Israeli aircraft fired rockets at a convoy of hundreds of cars carrying people fleeing south Lebanon on Friday, killing at least six people and wounding 30, witnesses and rescue workers said.

They said the convoy that had left the Israeli-occupied town of Marjayoun earlier in the day was targeted by at least one drone near the wine-making village of Kefraya in the eastern Bekaa Valley.

"The night sky suddenly lit and we heard an explosion toward the leading cars of the convoy. I first thought it was a blown tire," said Reuters reporter Karamallah Daher, who was in the convoy. "Cars sped in every direction and some crashed into ditches near the road," said Daher, who counted five rockets.
Rescue workers said at least six people were killed.


Heard this reported on afternoon news yesteday (NPR probably) and felt sick to my stomach. In the radio report, it was stated the UN and Lebanese government had made arrangements for safe passage with the Israelis for Lebanese police and soldiers, along with civilians. Then the end of the convoy, with the civilian cars, was attacked by an Israeli assault drone.

I felt such anger, such a physical revulsion. And that is probably what the rest of the world feels about us, the USA government and its people, when they hear not only about Lebanon, but obviously the horros or Iraq and our collateral damages in Afghanistan. Someone consumed with anger and desire for revenge is not going to ask who we voted for....


GravatarInteresting to note that in the past two weeks the Gooper Congress tried to eliminate the Estate Tax, which yields an approximate $70 billion/year to the US Treasury, while trying to cut back on the $6.8 billion/year jobs training programs.

10% of the way there. Keep up the good wokr, GOP worker people.


GravatarSure! Chertoff was all over the place taking credit for it.

If skull-boy, monkey-face, and cadaver man hadn't been there to save the day, we'd all be dead, I tells ya. I can't decide if they're Marvel comic figures or just Dick Tracy bad guys.


Gravatari avoid it like the fucking plague...
WoodyGuthriesDolchstossblog


They're spelunkers, and often count bats for conservation outfits.

Here's a sample of what they do.


GravatarI mean, were twenty people really ready to kill themselves?

Well, 19 people were last time.

I dunno, I suppose you could find 20 people on the Right who'd gladly fly planes into Nasrallah's or Ahmadinejad's residences. Hate has a way of motivating people.


GravatarJoseph Conrad called resignation "the greatest social virtue". That's always bothered me.
Little Brøther - 1:00 pm


most distressing is the apparent official assumption that by merely desiring to exercise your constitutionally guaranteed rights and liberties, you have already foresaken those rights and implicitly accepted the designation of 'suspect.'

fuck this shit...


GravatarI dunno, I suppose you could find 20 people on the Right who'd gladly fly planes into Nasrallah's or Ahmadinejad's residences.

I would feel better if I can pick them and what they fly into.


GravatarHas anybody addressed the suicide aspect of this airliner bomb plot? I mean, were twenty people really ready to kill themselves?
tracy


That part is plausible, because that's the same number that were involved in the 9/11 attacks. Not to say that is true, just that it's plausible.


GravatarOr, Rudy, the MCM do not want to report all of BushBoy and the NeoCons' failures. Not good for business.


GravatarOne of my comrades is going on a Far East vacation in a couple of weeks and she is just freaking out.

"Whaddya mean I can't any shampoo?"

Oh.
The humanity.


GravatarThe BRITISH POLICE thwarted a terror plot and didn't even inform the Bush Fuckupistration about it until two weeks ago because they did not trust the lying scumbags with the information and this is a BOOST for the Chimperor?
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 08.12.06 - 12:59 pm |


Hmmm.... I thought we covered this last night.

1) This not quite true because the CIA and NSA had been involved, and

2) The number of individuals briefed was kept to a minimum because of the certainty of leftist, reasonous scumbags would blab to the equally treasonous, leftist American MSM.

The NYT is probably furious that they were not able to expose this highly critical operation also.


GravatarHas anybody addressed the suicide aspect of this airliner bomb plot? I mean, were twenty people really ready to kill themselves?
tracy - 1:02 pm


Wondered about that.

Next time they will just swallow the device.


Gravatartracy:

Didn't 19 suiciders kill themselves on 9/11 on the four planes that went down?

What's so unbelievable that another 20 could be found in a population of over 1 billion Muslims.

There are some interesting articles written about the fact that many of the Muslim youth are being persuaded to become jihadists due to the lack of opportunity in their own countries and the perverse appeal of martyrdom.


GravatarThen the end of the convoy, with the civilian cars, was attacked by an ... assault drone.

Probably from a "separate unit" accidentally uninformed of the arrangement. This is what they do again and again and again; this is what they claimed with the Liberty. And meanwhile, if there really were such failures in communication and command and control, that would effectively mean that it's not a real military we're talking about here.


GravatarOh, BTW - first detractor on my blog! Wheee! Hate mail! Hate mail!

Congratulations!

I cherish the three or four times I was accused of having "minions." I'd felt like I'd truly Arrived.


GravatarHas anybody addressed the suicide aspect of this airliner bomb plot? I mean, were twenty people really ready to kill themselves?
tracy

somthing i wonder about too. 'cause i can see dying for a cause, but a 20 to 30 middle class kids from england?

sumth'n was up, i guess, or maybe fuckwit just wanted a chance to say Islamo Fascist like all the cool blogtards do.


GravatarIn the radio report, it was stated the UN and Lebanese government had made arrangements for safe passage with the Israelis for Lebanese police and soldiers, along with civilians. Then the end of the convoy, with the civilian cars, was attacked by an Israeli assault drone.

Olmert was later heard to exclaim "HA! FAKE! GOT YOU!"


Gravatarpure brilliance

Rant in G Minor

A lot of people rightly say that it’s easy to criticise our leaders but much harder to come up with solutions. We’d humbly suggest a Battle Royale featuring the leaders of all the countries currently fucking each other up. Maroon the grisly bastards on an island, give them each a crossbow and let them sort it out man to man. See how cavalier they can be with their own lives. Israel’s Olmert versus Hezbollah’s Nasrallah. A Blair and Bush tag team up against Syria’s Assad and Iran’s Ahmadinejad. George Galloway to take on Rupert Murdoch. Right in the fucking eye.

It’s a small carnage even the pacifists among us could embrace.


GravatarWoody--I think that's what bothers me most--the attitude that the citizenry cannot be trusted, that we are assumed guilty until proven otherwise--and in the eyes of the neocons/fundies/gooper whores, we never reach that level.


GravatarJust think...if the plots of 9/11 had been thwarted, the leftist morons would have said they were made up by Bushco just to scare everyone.

Gives one pause, doesn't it?


GravatarIF something does get blown up here, the Bushreich will never be defeated.

Hmmm... isn't 3 points less than the margin of error?

And WTF did Bush actually do other than go on vacation -- this was all Brit all day.


GravatarWould someone crush dipshit's head and put him out of our misery? Thank you.


GravatarThe NYT is probably furious that they were not able to expose this highly critical operation also.
dipshit


Yawn. Is Rush whining about the NYT again today? Smarter trolls, please.


GravatarFuck off dipshit. The NSA and CIA were only involved in the lst 2 weeks and they did not tell the Bush Fuckups becuase they had used similar information for political posturing in the past.

You are so full of delusional shit that its no wonder you are one of the stupid 1/3 who still supports Bush.


GravatarThere are some interesting articles written about the fact that many of the Muslim youth are being persuaded to become jihadists due to the lack of opportunity in their own countries and the perverse appeal of martyrdom.

Yes, yes, very interesting, very interesting speculation about the power of persuasion and ideas by do-nothings that sit on their hands all day and work with ideas. Funny that, idea men obsessed with the power of ideas, it's rather like a pharmacist convinced that drugs can be found to cure everything. And meanwhile it is still inarguable that suicide attacks are the ultimate desperation and that what is really inciting these people is inhuman brutality they are not only expected to suffer but quietly submit to.


GravatarCynthia--3 pts. is the normal MOE in this sort of polling.


GravatarJust think...if the plots of 9/11 had been thwarted, the leftist morons would have said they were made up by Bushco just to scare everyone.

Just think - if the 9/11 plots had been thwarted, there'd be 5000+ Americans alive, Bush would have been a one-term failure of a Preznit and we might still have some kind of standing in the world.

Smarter monkeys, please.


GravatarAnyway, I was sputtering about this to a friend the other day, and she immediately replied, "Well, if people are dragging stuff to the airport that they know they're not allowed to take on the plane, they deserve to have it confiscated."
...
Little Brøther


Great. Someone else who casually throws "No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law..." aside.


GravatarThere are some interesting articles written about the fact that many of the Muslim youth are being persuaded to become jihadists due to the lack of opportunity in their own countries and the perverse appeal of martyrdom.
Rudy | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 1:06 pm


Not to mention the fact that some went to Pakistan for training, including a "how to" on bomb making.


GravatarLebanon 'peace deal'.


Gravatarjawbone,

at the beginning of the ICORP of Iraq, i clearly recall Air Shapiro proclaim thaqt the iraqis had brought their own destruction upon themselves by having voted for Saddam Hussein as president...

not long ago, i heard an israeli general say the Palestinians deserved their own destruction for having voted to put Hamas in charge of their Govt.

the logic that seems to permit the USer ICORP of the iraqi people, and the collective punishment of lebanon by the Israelis must certainly permit the wholesale slaughter of innocents in th US or in Israel...

which is why i drive wherever i go...


Gravatarsallyh: yes. Also the attitude that the innocent have nothing to hide, nothing to fear, and thus no objection should a well-meaning security measure violate their person...


Gravatardon't put much trust in the Pakistani connection.

the suspect could of told the ISI anything under torture.

apply a little pressure and so the suspect talks about this fantastic plot.


GravatarHey dipshit, you should never let them go ass-to-mouth.


GravatarBrits come up with exactly 20 terrorists as if 20 is the magic al-Qaeda number? Said bombers were to mix Gatorade with toothpaste to make jet go boom, instead of a bottle of Courvoisier and a lighter purchased a duty-free?


GravatarHeathrow: mock-up, set-up, or cock-up?


GravatarProfWombat--apparently, as I believe it was Ashcroft who said it, there is no right to privacy anymore.

I have seriously reached a tipping point and am considering not taking the trip next week. Monsieur is, needless to say, annoyed with my sentiments, but he understands them as well.


GravatarSmarter trolls, please.

I really don't think there's such a thing as a smart Bush supporter left. Anyone with any brains has figured that 99.999% of Americans are getting screwed by his incompetent and corrupt administrtation.

I guess you could belong to the .001% and be smart, but my guess is that only about 1% of the beneficiaries are actually intelligent, which would be .00001% of Americans, or maybe about 300 people in total. So maybe there are 300 smart American Bush supporters. Smart and evil.


GravatarNot to mention the fact that some went to Pakistan for training, including a "how to" on bomb making.

Proof enough to arrest any Brown Person who leaves Civilization for the fringe territories, any time.

They might be makin' BOMBS!

But wait - I thought that's what the internets were for.


Gravatar33% approval means one-third of the populus still loves the Dear Leader! And tractor production is up 300% for the year.

Time for Agitprop's Wingnut Roundup - Lieberman stylie.


GravatarHeathrow = Monkey Mockup


GravatarSomething doesn't add up


Gravatarif the plots of 9/11 had been thwarted,

The 9/11 plotters were all in the USA, so that didn't give the British Police much to work with did it?

As for the Bush Administration there were doing exactly nothing to fight terrorism. In fact they were to annouce a cut in funding for ant-terrorism programs, but the announcement couldn't be made because someone flew a fucking plane into the Pentagon that morning.


Gravatar"Well, if people are dragging stuff to the airport that they know they're not allowed to take on the plane, they deserve to have it confiscated."


While I certainly agree with your overall point, I must admit some sympathy with your friend's comment. I don't fly very often (maybe once a year), mainly because even before 9/11 it always felt like an ordeal to me. But I'm aware of the simple realities of flying today, justifiable or not, and I stop to think about every item I am taking along. If there's something I don't want confiscated, it would be brainless to try to carry it on.

I can either consent to the conditions, or I can decline to fly. If at all possible, I usually decline to fly. We need to fund rail and other alternatives.


GravatarWe'll give you the grand tour...
Thers


Since so many people are coming from far away, we might want to put together a walking tour or something on Saturday or Sunday. Maybe lower Manhattan.

Uncle Smokes, whacha think?


GravatarWhat country in the world has the largest Muslim population?

Hint: they don't seem at all impressed with calls for jihad, even though they represent a minority in that country.


GravatarI was thinking that these people seemed to be reasonably prosperous, quasi-middle class working people, living normal lives in Britain. They don't seem to have been disaffected youth, like the French rioters, or to have the perceived grievances of the Wahhabis of 9/11.


GravatarWar paralyzes Lebanon aid

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Heavy fighting between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas paralyzed efforts to help 100,000 people trapped in southern Lebanon on Saturday, despite a U.N. resolution to end the conflict.

Aid workers said civilians caught up in an Israeli push deep into Lebanon were running out of food and medicine, and afraid to flee after an air strike against a mostly civilian convoy.

The U.N.'s World Food Programme (WFP), in charge of moving supplies for the world body's agencies, urged both sides to respect the U.N. Security council resolution's call for a "full cessation of hostilities".

It also asked Israel to give them safe passage to the south after the access to the area was cut off this week.


GravatarThe could've gotten the same instruction at the library.

Didn't have to go all the way to Pakistan for that.


GravatarJust think...if the plots of 9/11 had been thwarted, the leftist morons would have said they were made up by Bushco just to scare everyone.

Gives one pause, doesn't it?
dipshit - 1:08 pm


I think I see your point.

So the correct response is to do nothing rather than risk the leftist morons ridiculing him.

You know. I've underestimated your brillance up until now.


GravatarProof enough to arrest any Brown Person who leaves Civilization for the fringe territories, any time.

They might be makin' BOMBS!


A skill that's quite useful to them working at the cell phone store


GravatarWMR's summary of the events:

The London terror plan was "known" last Sunday by British and American authorities, according to the Indian press. American Airlines flight 109 from London Heathrow to Boston boarded a family of five, however, after the plane left Heathrow authorities determined that the father appeared on a British suspect list drawn up after the 7/7 London transit attacks. At first, the pilot was instructed to fly all the way to Boston where U.S. authorities could claim credit for apprehending the suspect. However, the pilot, fearing for the safety of his passengers and crew, refused and quickly returned to Heathrow without informing the passengers. Once on the ground, it was discovered that the male had in his carry-on baggage the type of combination liquid explosive and electronic device now being hyped by the British and American media.


GravatarMoonbotica--nothing adds up at this point. Forgive my cynicism/tinfoil hattishness, but this all terror, all the time scenario currently playing just doesn't pass the smell test.


GravatarI really don't think there's such a thing as a smart Bush supporter left. Anyone with any brains has figured that 99.999% of Americans are getting screwed by his incompetent and corrupt administrtation.


And for conclusive proof of this statement, I give you dipshit.

dipshit - Your boy is at 33%. You suck, he sucks, and we're gonna ram home your mammy come November.

I love it.


GravatarSo Sallyh, how are your sinuses feeling today?


GravatarMuslim leaders say foreign policy makes UK target

· Open letter accusing PM dismays Downing Street
· Iraq and Middle East 'boost extremists cause'


Leading UK Muslims have united to tell Tony Blair that his foreign policy in Iraq and on Israel offers "ammunition to extremists" and puts British lives "at increased risk".

An open letter signed by three of the four Muslim MPs, three of the four peers, and 38 organisations including the Muslim Council of Britain and the Muslim Association of Britain, was greeted with dismay in Downing Street. It has courted the MCB and several of the signatories, such as key Labour MPs Sadiq Khan (Tooting) and Shahid Malik (Dewsbury), whom it believes can shape Muslim opinion.


GravatarExcept it wasn't very hateful, just more kind of stupid and patronizing. But you post with the comments you have, not the comments you want.
Pere Ubu


Someone left me a message on my poor little bloggy saying I had a saggy c*&t. MoonB showed me how to delete it.


GravatarExcept it wasn't very hateful, just more kind of stupid and patronizing. But you post with the comments you have, not the comments you want.
Pere Ubu


Someone left me a message on my poor little bloggy saying I had a saggy c*&t. MoonB showed me how to delete it.


GravatarI guess you could belong to the .001% and be smart, but my guess is that only about 1% of the beneficiaries are actually intelligent, which would be .00001% of Americans, or maybe about 300 people in total.

And that .001% are the insanely wealthy and powerful, those who really are benefitting from Chimp's non-governance. They have far more important things to do than troll this blog. The objections of a few lefties on the Internets tubes mean dick to them, since they're running the world.

I think all of the trolls here are high school and college students, frankly.


Gravatarsallyh: Larry Ellison of Sun Microsystems famously said something like 'Privacy is over; get used to it.'

Ashcroft, of course, is wrong as a matter of law; Griswold v Connecticut et seq. remains the law of the land. But some things are reclassified as privileges rather than rights: travel on airplanes, attendance at Presidential events, a driver's license, other things. So privacy (and other) rights are compromised thereby.


GravatarIndonesia.


GravatarSo the correct response is to do nothing rather than risk the leftist morons ridiculing him.

You know. I've underestimated your brillance up until now.

Gimlet | 08.12.06 - 1:16 pm |


I appreciate the comment on my brilliance, but where does "do nothing" part come in?


Gravatar... they can have my overpriced Clarins lip gloss when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Shouldn't it be your, "cold, dead lips"?


GravatarSallyh, I am the same, as I expressed here

my father thinks there is something fishy about this 'terra plot' also.


GravatarStrawhat--about the same.

Weary of all terra, all the time.


GravatarA skill that's quite useful to them working at the cell phone store
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 1:16 pm |

Yeah, and with the new vogue for liquids (that is actually a decade-delayed recognition of an element of Bojika), their slurpee creation skills will also come in handy. Racist twat.


GravatarAt first, the pilot was instructed to fly all the way to Boston where U.S. authorities could claim credit for apprehending the suspect.

So - um - Bush wanted a planeload of people put at risk just so he could be Rap Master Terra Fighter Supreme?

Why, slap me silly and call me Hester.


GravatarProfWombat--I've met Larry Ellison. Asshole extraordinaire. (Monsieur worked for Sun in the late 80s and early 90s.)


Gravatar Muslim reaction: 'This is sad. I'm afraid for the community. I do hope they're innocent. I do hope'

Blair ponders return as Muslims hit out


GravatarGood point. Bush's most expedient political path was to do nothing to thwart terror, in fact inflame it as much as possible. Then he could exploit the resulting fear for great power and political gain, removing all congressional oversight for his power and money grabs.

Mission accomplished! Up to now, I really had thought of Bush as a serious fuck up that couldn't do anything right, but now I see him as a genius, who planned all his failures to create the level of chaos he needed to take advantage of us all. Diabolical.


GravatarIndonesia.
plantsman, lowercase

Close but no cigar!

Not Indonesia but India!

It would seem that India is treating it's Muslim population right. Even allowing one of them to be elected PM of the country!


GravatarKeep taking the meds, Sallyh; they'll kick in eventually.

Good for the pilot, turning around & landing at Heathrow instead of giving W and minions their dearly desired photo op. God, this whole thing just smells of Rove & Cheney, doesn't it? What kind of doggie treat did they promise Poodle if he'd let the suspect get arrested in Boston instead of London?


GravatarI've met Larry Ellison. Asshole extraordinaire.

That's what everyone says. Ellison is one of the biggest assholes on the planet.


GravatarPolice and ministers move to defuse backlash

The government and the Metropolitan police acted swiftly to anticipate and attempt to defuse any potential backlash from the Muslim community in the wake of the raids and arrest of 24 suspected terrorists.

Muslim MPs and MPs whose constituents were in custody yesterday were personally briefed by senior Scotland Yard staff and John Prescott, the deputy prime minister, explaining the background to the raids.

Typical of MPs briefed early was Sadiq Khan, Labour MP for Tooting, who was rung at 6.30am on Thursday by Scotland Yard to be told about the raids and the alleged terrorist plot. At midday the call was followed up by a more detailed explanation from Mr Prescott.

Although none of Mr Khan's constituents was arrested, there had been fears that Labour backbenchers, already critical of government policy on Iraq and the Lebanon, might have been further alienated by the arrests.


Gravatarsallyh: that was also the impression of this marsupial as he encountered Ellison in the press...


GravatarProfWombat--I understand the difference between a right and a privilege. I am willing to make some of my information public and abide by the laws that govern said acts (driving, etc.). However, there is a point where such restrictions become intrusive and unwarranted, and I think we reached that point a while ago.


GravatarThe could've gotten the same instruction at the library.

Didn't have to go all the way to Pakistan for that.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 1:16 pm |


Nothin' like good old "hands on" training, however.


GravatarI clicked Moonbootica's link to the Independent on Muslim reaction in Britain. Should I not be surprised there was a Washington Mutual ad astride the Independent's page?


GravatarAt first, the pilot was instructed to fly all the way to Boston where U.S. authorities could claim credit for apprehending the suspect.

Good lord, if you were a conspiracy theorist, you might guess is that the plan was for the terror plan to succeed so that the fear could be exploited. On that basis, it was thwarted by a smart pilot, not by the idiot authorities.


GravatarOld Man, ProfW--actually, my brother is a fellow/senior VP at Sun; the one qualification you must have to be high in the Sun hierarchy is to be an asshole.


Gravatarwhat about the 2002 Gujarat Riots?


GravatarI appreciate the comment on my brilliance, but where does "do nothing" part come in?
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 1:18 pm



Because if the plots of 9/11 had been thwarted, the leftist morons would have said they were made up by Bushco just to scare everyone.

Therefore rather than thwarting the plot, the proper response is to do nothing - which was the action Dubya took.

Don't tell me you were unaware of what you were saying?

Then I take back my praise!


Gravatarsallyh: with you entirely; my point was that redefining rights as privileges has become a backdoor way to limit rights that's increasingly popular. So, if boarding an airplane isn't a right, but rather a privilege, do we have the freedom to travel at all, much less without harassment such as you recently were subjected to? Should drivers be forced to take breathalyzer tests which might incriminate them, or be subjet to penalties should they refuse? Again, they're telling us to trust them, that the innocent have nothing to fear. Hogwash.


GravatarGood lord, if you were a conspiracy theorist, you might guess is that the plan was for the terror plan to succeed so that the fear could be exploited.

Been there, done that, got the 3000 dead people.


GravatarRetired Maj. Gen. John Batiste is pissed.
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GravatarIslam in India


GravatarNever been to NYC! Whoa.

We'll give you the grand tour...
Thers

Since so many people are coming from far away, we might want to put together a walking tour or something on Saturday or Sunday. Maybe lower Manhattan.

Uncle Smokes, whacha think?
ql in ny


Thanks, Thers and QL. I'm counting on y'all's patient assistance to navigate the concrete jungle.

I've been warned that I'll get run over by people walking fast. I also recall how cartoonist Tim Kreider started out an essay, saying he attempted to "compose my features into a New York face, severe and unapproachable."

When I visited Dublin, after having toured a lot of small and lovely places throughout Ireland, the site of all the people grim-faced and lurching from place to place was kind of depressing. After about a day, I found the rhythm of the city and all was cool.

With your help, I perhaps might adapt quickly. I'm up for whatever you hip folks in the know suggest.


GravatarMoon, what does the Guardian have to say about this alleged plot? I suppose I could go look myself but I want to hear your view.


GravatarBlair to fly to the rescue


GravatarMark B., that's always been the fascist plan, they just needed a silly enough puppet to pull it off. The fact the Cheney was hired to find a Veep, and just happened to find his own self, is only one of dozens of pointers. These people long ago ceased caring about America or Americans, except as sheep to be sheared. Their decades-long destruction of public education and the Fairness Doctrine were transparent moves in the direction of a totalitarian state, which they now are about halfway to. The ignorant rantings of the dipshits, cogs and auggys on this and other sites are prime eamples of how fucked-up the education system is, and not because of teaher's unions, that's for sure. If Bush gave one single damn about this country, he would have defended it on 9/11 rather than going on vacation beforehand and then running away to hide in the immediate aftermath. A coward, a deserter, and a Republican moron; the perfect foil for corporate fascists like Cheney.


Gravatarstrawhat it seems to me that the Guardian is going along with the offical story.

focusing on the Pakistani connection


GravatarBOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-12-06 10:04 AM
Original message
Most excellent LTTE today in the Gulfport Sun-Herald:

They told me if I voted for Kerry
the war in Iraq would escalate
They told me if I voted for Kerry
the deficit in this country would be out of sight
they told me if I voted for Kerry
gasoline prices would be out of sight
They told me if I voted for Kerry
the Middle East would be in turmoil
They told me if I voted for Kerry
our borders would be open for all illegals to cross
They told me if I voted for Kerry
the minimum wage would never increase
They told me if I voted for Kerry
our young men and women would be stuck in Iraq for years
And so I voted for Kerry and it all came true.
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2775414

KKKarl is an idiot (197 posts)Sat Aug-12-06 10:20 AM
Response to Original message
9. This is what my local church told me

They told me if I voted for Bush
Abortion will be against the law
They told me if I voted for Bush
Gay marriages will be against the law
They told me if I voted for Bush
The economy will thrive
They told me if I voted for Bush
The Iraqi war will be over quickly after we find the WMD's
They told me if I voted for Bush
We will win the war on terror very soon
I voted for Kerry & nothing came true
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GravatarProfWombat--what does trouble me is that which is called 'implied consent' in CA; i.e., if you hold a CA drivers' license, you have automatically consented to be subject to breath/blood testing at an officer's discretion.

It seems that this is what the regime would like to have be the case for all activities--'by living in the United States, you automatically consent to give up your rights as a citizen at the discretion of the Powers That Be.' I know the logic is off in this analysis, but it does seem that one could extrapolate from said concept.


GravatarTerror plot: Pakistan and al-Qaida links revealed

· Key suspect seized on Afghan border
· Arrested men attended Islamic camps
· Martyrdom tapes found during searches
· Tip-off came from Muslim informer


A brother of two of the 24 suspects seized by detectives investigating a plot to bomb up to 12 planes was seized in Pakistan shortly before police launched their raids, it emerged last night.

The arrest of Rashid Rauf in the border area with Afghanistan was a trigger that led investigators to start an immediate pre-emptive operation with officers fearing the alleged cells were ready to strike.

Pakistani officials claimed last night that Mr Rauf had links with al-Qaida. "We arrested him from the border area and on his disclosure we shared the information with British authorities, which led to further arrests in Britain," said the interior minister, Aftab Khan Sherpao.

The foreign minister, Khursheed Kasuri, said Mr Rauf had been monitored for some time before his arrest.

Mr Rauf's uncle was murdered in Birmingham in April 2002 and as part of the murder hunt it is understood that Mr Rauf's home in St Margaret's Road in the city was searched.


Gravatarsallyh: 'zatly. They could, for instance, solve the problem of drunk driving at a stroke by requiring all cars to be equipped with ignition interlocks, though only raucous laughter would greet the attempt to do so--and I'd have less objection to that than to broadening police powers and limiting FIfth Amendment rights...


GravatarHi, all.

Was down at the beach and one of those planes pulling the big banners flew by advertising:

SNAKES ON A PLANE!

Leeches on a Beach!


GravatarSCROLL TROLL COMMENT SCRUBBED

Not really.
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GravatarArianna's got a good post up at HuffPo, it's called:
Beyond Chutzpah: Cheney Implies Terrorists Are Happy Lieberman Lost.


Gravatar"They told me if I voted for Kerry
the war in Iraq would escalate
They told me if I voted for Kerry
the deficit in this country would be out of sight"
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2775414
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GravatarSince so many people are coming from far away, we might want to put together a walking tour or something on Saturday or Sunday. Maybe lower Manhattan

QL, a woman I work with is married to a history prof and he gives tours. If you want, i can get details from her.


Gravatarciao moonbats

have to go to my Gran's, celebrating Grandpa's birthday, seeing relatives etc.

catch you all laters


GravatarHow are The Hamptons, Aguatigre?


GravatarI'm up for whatever you hip folks in the know suggest.

BWA-HA-HA....



Gravatarhat kind of doggie treat did they promise Poodle if he'd let the suspect get arrested in Boston instead of London?
strawhat


But wait -- if he had the "explosive materials," and the Brits had known about the plan for a year, he wasn't GOIING to get to the US.


GravatarElephant!


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GravatarGOP raises specter of 'Speaker Pelosi'

Asked recently by reporters how she felt about being painted as a GOP "boogey-woman," Pelosi said the tactic "represents a bankruptcy of ideas."

"I think that it indicates the Republicans don't have a positive agenda. They don't have anything," she said. "They have been in power with the House and the Senate and the White House; they could have accomplished so many things for the American people and they have failed. ... That is why they have to do their ad hominems, because they don't have anything positive to talk about."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20060...pelosi_s_shadow

Yup.


Gravatar"They told me if I voted for Kerry
the war in Iraq would escalate
They told me if I voted for Kerry
the deficit in this country would be out of sight"


So I did. And they were right!


GravatarPeccaries on a deck-ary!

I got nothin'


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GravatarHmmm... 47 across in the Newsday crossword puzzle today --

"Trendy meat"

It's three letters, so "Thers" doesn't fit, that's odd...


GravatarElephant!
==

Neat!

Good morning.


GravatarBut wait -- if he had the "explosive materials," and the Brits had known about the plan for a year, he wasn't GOIING to get to the US.

How'd he even get on the damn plane in the first place?


Gravatar"Trendy meat"

It's three letters, so "Thers" doesn't fit, that's odd...


"owl"?


GravatarOnce on the ground, it was discovered that the male had in his carry-on baggage the type of combination liquid explosive and electronic device now being hyped by the British and American media.

You mean, Gatorade, toothpaste and an i-pod? How dastardly!


GravatarTherefore rather than thwarting the plot, the proper response is to do nothing - which was the action Dubya took.

Don't tell me you were unaware of what you were saying?

Then I take back my praise!

Gimlet | 08.12.06 - 1:27 pm |


Well, you'd better give back the praise. Bush gave the order to the NSA and the CIA to get involved based on the info passed on by the Brits.

Did you want Bush to act like a cowboy (heaven forbid) and strap on a couple of six-shooters and go after them himself??


GravatarMmmm...BLTs for lunch...

And the corn and zucchini from Thers' and Molly's garden.

YUM!


Gravatarham


GravatarAnybody that wears contact lenses can tell you that the air at 38,000 feet is mighty dry.

I'm going to loathe flying next month.


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GravatarHow are The Hamptons, Aguatigre?

simply beautiful. Temps in the 70s, not a cloud in the sky. Water is cold, but very calm.

A nice day.

how's everybody here?


GravatarHow'd he even get on the damn plane in the first place?

Not only that, but how long ago did he make the reservation?...I thought the Brits were forwarding DoB, Passport No.,Address, credit card info, etc. to HS when reservations we made. This doest stink mightyly.


Gravatarjoe got the tubes reconnected:
http://www.joe2006.com


GravatarSounds lovely. We're all pissed, as usual.


GravatarWell, I want some lunch and then to make horrific noises into my recording devices.

Perhaps I'll pratice my "New York face" by sucking lemons dipped in ipecac.

Y'all take care of your good selves.


GravatarEmu!
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Gravatarhow's everybody here?

I finished the last piece in the current round of art making just moments ago.

I'm mighty satisfied.


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Gravatarplantsman, did you remember to harvest some of that chile seed when you were working with it? If not, I'm saving it out from some of the ripest pods and will share.


GravatarWell, you'd better give back the praise. Bush gave the order to the NSA and the CIA to get involved based on the info passed on by the Brits.
dipshit


Thought Bush didn't bother to read the August 6th Daily Briefing Paper or are you changing the subject?


GravatarSpork--I feel your pain. But don't you feel safer not being able to carry your saline solution?


GravatarEmu!

Indeed.

when did emu meat become trendy? Missed that gastronomical development...


GravatarWT - sounds gorgeous. A beautiful day here as well. I wish summer didn't have to end.


GravatarWell, you'd better give back the praise. Bush gave the order to the NSA and the CIA to get involved based on the info passed on by the Brits.

Please. Any order Boots gave was tantamount to letting a four year old hit the ball in a Little League baseball game.

Did you want Bush to act like a cowboy (heaven forbid) and strap on a couple of six-shooters and go after them himself??

That's exactly what Bootsy Boy wanted to do. The CIA told him it wasn't such a good idea.


GravatarGWPDA, I thought about it, it's true; but since my tiny garden is not so sunny, for me it made little sense. Truth be told though, I could easily rescuse a few seeds from the salsa I made in a pinch. How far along are you?


GravatarBut don't you feel safer not being able to carry your saline solution?

"Back off! I've got saline solution and I'm willing to use it!" [waves around 0.5 ounce bottle]


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GravatarDid you want Bush to act like a cowboy (heaven forbid) and strap on a couple of six-shooters and go after them himself??

That'd be fun to watch, though.


GravatarThers: when did emu meat become trendy? Missed that gastronomical development...

I could be wrong (as I often am on this topic -- half the time, y'all are talkin' about food I ain't never heerd of!), but I think emu was on the menu at Bound'ry (trendy N'vegas eatery in 2000, anyway... last time I was there).
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Gravatarwhen did emu meat become trendy? Missed that gastronomical development...
Thers

there's an emu farm across from my vetrinarian.


GravatarThe guy on the AA flight to Boston had, obviously, bought a ticket, while the arrested plotters had not (yet?). Was he one of them, perhaps the first? And note that he was apparently prepared to kill his family.


GravatarEmus are related to Ostriches, are they not?


GravatarGood for the pilot, turning around & landing at Heathrow instead of giving W and minions their dearly desired photo op.

If the pilot had agreed to fly to Boston, the White House might've released footage showing the Unitard™ as Superman physically towing the plane to a safe landing.

Once landed, Romney and HoJo and a sobbing Condomleakage would slobber all over him. And presumably 30% of the populace, including our dipshit* inquisitor, will cheer and cheer. And the bobbleheads might concede that, while it's "unlikely" that the Unitard™ actually has super powers, that nevertheless it was a brilliant symbolic maneuver that provided exactly the leadership and motivation expected from the Leader of the Free World. (The Joe Kleins and Broders and Morrises would point out that Kerry or even Lamont could never pull it off, and that's exactly what's wrong with the Democrats.)

*Incidentally, my daily slog at the Huffington Post, one of the few sites not blocked at work, has acquainted me with a slew of threadlice as huge as palmetto bugs, and twice as stupid. Like "dipshit", they often use disparaging handles like "farts" or "skidmark". Hard to tell if merely an anomalous display of authenticity, or if it's a way to pre-empt others from using such epithets against them.

Because such labels are invariably entirely consistent with their intellect and character.


Gravatar
when did emu meat become trendy? Missed that gastronomical development...


My bil and sil bought a farm back home that had been an emu farm prior to their purchasing said place.

Guy that sold it to them opened it in the 1980's. Didn't catch on, but the meat is actually good. Close to beef.


Gravatarwhen did emu meat become trendy?

When he became a Bush apologist. Oh... Wait a minute.


Gravatarand so it begins...

http://tinyurl.com/mgqt6


GravatarMy bil and sil bought a farm back home that had been an emu farm prior to their purchasing said place.
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I've been hearing about emu meat for years, mostly from people who were thinking of "investing."


Gravatar GWPDA, I thought about it, it's true; but since my tiny garden is not so sunny, for me it made little sense.

The funny thing here is that it takes them a full 18 months to germinate - I throw 'em down and then completely forget where I put them until suddenly they're up and ready to go. Probably best not to bother with them.

I'm about half done now, but had to stop and let my hands cool off...


GravatarDid you want Bush to act like a cowboy (heaven forbid) and strap on a couple of six-shooters and go after them himself??

I'm always up for some hot terrorist on terrorist action.


Gravatar*Incidentally, my daily slog at the Huffington Post, one of the few sites not blocked at work, has acquainted me with a slew of threadlice as huge as palmetto bugs, and twice as stupid. Like "dipshit", they often use disparaging handles like "farts" or "skidmark". Hard to tell if merely an anomalous display of authenticity, or if it's a way to pre-empt others from using such epithets against them.

Because such labels are invariably entirely consistent with their intellect and character.
Little Brøther | 08.12.06 - 1:48 pm |


Actually, ny nom de blog was bestowed on me by a lefty blogger. Didn't do it myself. Don't exactly hate it either.


Gravatarand so it begins...
==

Ah, jesus.


GravatarReed believes depleted uranium has contaminated him and his life. He now walks point in a vitriolic war over the Pentagon's arsenal of it — thousands of shells and hundreds of tanks coated with the metal that is radioactive, chemically toxic, and nearly twice as dense as lead.

I hesitate to mention this, but I brought this up here a year ago. Here it comes.


GravatarSo, if boarding an airplane isn't a right, but rather a privilege, do we have the freedom to travel at all, much less without harassment such as you recently were subjected to?

Silly me - I immediately jumped to the conclusion that this was the objective. Between this, the insistence on carrying 'papers', being monitored, my belief is that the intention is prevent citizens from moving easily thruout their own country and otherwise disobey the intentions of the state.

That may be just me - but the ability to travel freely without explanation, justification or qualification is a peculiarly fundamental one.


GravatarI've been hearing about emu meat for years, mostly from people who were thinking of "investing."
mena


I'd probably recommend against that investment...


GravatarLou Dobbs, major racist asshole:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...0060828/ eviatar


GravatarBush's bounce won't last.


GravatarQL, a woman I work with is married to a history prof and he gives tours. If you want, i can get details from her.
watertiger


Sounds good. I can be the point person for this. I'll tell res to mention it in her next missive to everyone. I don't know if we want to hire a tour guide, but my experience has always been it is well worth it.


GravatarEmus are related to Ostriches, are they not?

Nope. Not related. But have adapted in a similar manner -- i.e. large flightless birds.


GravatarSo, this one guy, with his family, got on a plane to detonate it, on his own and in advance of the massive 20-bomber coordinated attack?

Something smells like cheap-ass cat food.


GravatarBush's bounce won't last.

Especially when people understand that the US had little to do with tharting this plot, and the tactics that did uncover it are the exact opposite of the Bush policy.


GravatarStringent security searches which have led to long delays and cancellations at Heathrow are not sustainable, airport operator BAA has warned.


GravatarI got nothin'


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spork


Are you coming to not eschacon II over Columbus Day?


GravatarApologies if you've already all seen this.


GravatarMore like Charlie McCarthy to Cheney's Edgar Bergen.
Terry C, Outright Partisan

Bush is Howdy, and Cheney is Doody.
Uncle Smokes


Bush and Cheney = Winky and The Drain


Gravatari've heard the meat is actually not so popular. but the oil... the exciting secret of emu oil.


Gravatarthere's an emu farm across from my vetrinarian.

I think it started out as a pair of pet emus, but the vet refused to prescribe birth control as a matter of conscience.


GravatarSo, this one guy, with his family, got on a plane to detonate it, on his own and in advance of the massive 20-bomber coordinated attack?

Could have been a dry run... see if they could get the bomb components through security.


Gravatarham
plantsman, l


popcorn


Gravatarobtuse??...much??
dipshit


Projection, much?


GravatarApologies if you've already all seen this.
mena

lovely, now we know what to do with the gitmo boys.

oh, wait..


GravatarThanks for the emu information... the emuformation...


GravatarThe Old Man From Scene 24

You've got a good point, there.


GravatarBy the way, what are the duty-free booze rules these days? A terris working in a duty-free shop could substitute ...


GravatarTerra! Terra! Terra! It's good for Unka Karl and it's good for George! All you need to know to understand why we haven't caught bin Laden.


GravatarHaters on parade:


http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...060828/ buchanan


GravatarGOP Staffer Hijacks Press Conference with John Kerry and Patrick Murphy

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...ily.com/? p=3857

The conversation is astounding - Murphy's opponent's Chief of Staff doesn't know when to give up after hacking into the press conference!


GravatarSomething smells like cheap-ass cat food.
Virginia | 08.12.06 - 1:56 pm


One, two-- buckle my shoe.
I smell something fishy,
And it ain't lobster stew.


GravatarI should know that something entitled Our Creation Minute is going to be a crock of shit.


GravatarAre you coming to not eschacon II over Columbus Day?

I reckon I will do that thing.


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GravatarActually, ny nom de blog was bestowed on me by a lefty blogger. Didn't do it myself. Don't exactly hate it either.
dipshit

as long as you live up to your end of the bargain, and don't worry about that.


GravatarReid on the way to forced resignation (trying to pull an "Al Haig, I'm in charge now"):

"If the British government is serious about defeating terrorism and not allowing the terrorists to disrupt normal everyday British life, then the government must provide the additional security staffing - either police or army reserve personnel - immediately to prevent London's main airports from grinding to a halt over the coming days."


GravatarApologies if you've already all seen this.
mena


Wonderfully humane country, Murka under Bush.


GravatarLou Dobbs is Joe "Geno's Steaks - Order in English Only" Vento writ less small.


GravatarThat may be just me - but the ability to travel freely without explanation, justification or qualification is a peculiarly fundamental one.
GWPDA


Used to be it okay to just pull up stakes and move on without telling anyone.


GravatarThis is the war that's helping stop the Osama Bin MacGyver plot

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Two U.S soldiers were killed Saturday when their foot patrol was hit by a roadside bomb south of Baghdad, the military said. The deaths brought to 23 the number of Americans killed in Iraq this month.

At least 2,600 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.


Gravatari watch msnbc all the time, especially the prison shows, ya gotta know how to act and what to expect when we're all rounded up...
tofubo


I ain't going quietly.


GravatarAt least 2,600 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
P O'Neill


Oh, but THAT's just a NUMBER.

/Pony Blow (sneering)


GravatarUsing prison inmates as drug test subjects?

Hey, why not? Let's not let a few Merry Mixups by Dr. Mengele and the Tuskegee Institute spoil a good thing!

We don't want to throw out the iatrogenic baby with the chemical bathwater now, do we?


GravatarI think it started out as a pair of pet emus, but the vet refused to prescribe birth control as a matter of conscience.
Little Brøther

he actually raises parrots. but he was selling the empty emu eggs at 13 to 20 dollars a pop. they are beautiful.

actually i think the farm closed down. as has been mentioned it never really took off in america.


Gravatar
Used to be it okay to just pull up stakes and move on without telling anyone.
ql in ny


It's pretty much howcome I'm in Arizona rather than in Pennsylvania or Georgia....


Gravatarhave actually eaten emu, it's quite all right and slightly tougher than chicken, pssibly because it was from freerange emu. Somebody aroud here actually released their emu herd and the SPCA had to find homes for them.

Have now gotten a Universal Charger from Radio Shak, and my laptop is charged up and I don't have to fiddle with the lead anymore. whew, and thanks to everyone who helped me figure it out.


GravatarAt least 2,600 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
P O'Neill


Oh, but THAT's just a NUMBER.


Pretty soon, the number of Americans that will die in Iraq will surpass those who died in the 2001 terror attacks. Not that there is any real connection, except for the fact that Bush exploited the fear to get the war he wanted.


GravatarSomething smells like cheap-ass cat food.
Virginia | 08.12.06 - 1:56 pm
==

It isn't working, is it? We've built up a tolerance for this crap, which makes me worry they'll push it to the point of bloodshed.

When do we storm the Bastille?


GravatarSomebody aroud here actually released their emu herd and the SPCA had to find homes for them.

I hope they weren't ostracized.


GravatarAt least 2,600 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war

An entire brigade gone. And with service-ending injuries, our military has lost a coupla divisions in force strength.

And this is making us safer?


GravatarUsed to be it okay to just pull up stakes and move on without telling anyone.

Vhy are you MOVING, citizen?

Iz zhere somesing you vish to HIDE?

Papers, please!


Gravatarmoving on is easy, it's catching up with all your subscriptions that's a bit dicey.


GravatarIf anyone has seen clips of a furious traveller sputtering, "This is all bullshit, and y'all must be out of your fucking minds ripping off my toiletries for no goddamn good reason!" please correct me.

Little Brother


Probably plenty of folks feeling that way, but Bush's WHORE Media isn't going to reveal that.


GravatarPapers, please!
Pere Ubu


Sign zeee papers, old man!


Gravatar'I hope they weren't ostracized.
Marwood'

I think they were having a lark.


GravatarTerry, are you joining us in the festivities over Columbus day?


Gravatar'I hope they weren't ostracized.
Marwood'

I think they were having a lark.


Gravatar'I hope they weren't ostracized.
Marwood'

I think they were having a lark.


I confess, I parroted that joke.

(Damn you, Haloscan.)


GravatarLou Dobbs is Joe "Geno's Steaks - Order in English Only" Vento writ less small.
Little Brøther



Lou Dobbs is a legend in his own mind.


GravatarTerry, are you joining us in the festivities over Columbus day?
ql in ny


Where is it?


Gravatar'I hope they weren't ostracized.
Marwood'

I think they were having a lark.


I'd make a joke, but I'd have to wing it.


GravatarProbably plenty of folks feeling that way, but Bush's WHORE Media isn't going to reveal that.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 2:14 pm | #

I think the thing that dismayed me the most was the media's glowing accounts of how quickly travellers fell in line and were willing to comply with ridiculous demands.


GravatarQL - will you guys blog the get-together for the rest of us? I wish I could go, but there're no wealthy relatives scheduled to drop dead in the next few months.


GravatarI'm'a take a little nap. I need strength for a dinner visit tonight with some older folks I really really love. Unfortunately we're gong to have a hell of a time avoiding 1. Israel and 2. Lieberman. I barely escaped reading "this great speech" Olmert made when I was over there earlier this week.

Yikes.


GravatarWhat is a kiwi, but a midget emu, anyway?


GravatarWhat is a kiwi, but a midget emu, anyway?

I'll duck that question.


GravatarI think the thing that dismayed me the most was the media's glowing accounts of how quickly travellers fell in line and were willing to comply with ridiculous demands.
SHG


That's THEIR story.

I don't buy it for a minute.


GravatarDoes the host read our posts, when the count is above, > 400 toasts???

Tell me something then...

If the Tabloids were screaming this about the Clenis© and a minority member of his cabinet, what do you suppose headline news, faux news, and Tweety MAtthews would be screaming?

http://tinyurl.com/gs3vl


GravatarSorry for the non sequitur, I was just wondering.


Gravatar What is a kiwi, but a midget emu, anyway?

We resent that.


Gravatar What is a kiwi, but a midget emu, anyway?

We resent that.
New Zealand Residents | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:20 pm | #


New Zealand is more famous for a certain Crowe.


Gravatar.
'I confess, I parroted that joke.

Marwood'

I didn't mean to rail at you about it.


GravatarSorry for the non sequitur, I was just wondering.

The American Non-Sequitur Society: We may not make sense, but we do like pizza.


GravatarNew Zealand is more famous for a certain Crowe.
Marwood



Look out for that telephone.


GravatarI didn't mean to rail at you about it.
Ruth


Don't worry, I know you're not that kind of gull.


GravatarThe emus are being big about the kiwi aspersions.


GravatarWelcome to LA. The police state.


GravatarThe number of individuals briefed was kept to a minimum because of the certainty of leftist, reasonous scumbags would blab to the equally treasonous, leftist American MSM.

Or because MI-5 thought that the American counterparts would blow the operation.

But thanks for playing 'how much can I wank', Brian Hardig of Milford, OH.


GravatarThe American Non-Sequitur Society: We may not make sense, but we do like pizza.
==

Nice! Which reminds me, I need a BLT.


Gravatar'Don't worry, I know you're not that kind of gull.
Mark B. in Austin Texas '

Can't say I'm not partridge-ular.


GravatarWhere is it?
Terry C,


NYC


GravatarCan't say I'm not partridge-ular.
Ruth


You erned your stripes with that one.


GravatarI have to do the word-verification thing to post a comment on my own damn blog.

Something about that just annoys me somehow.


GravatarYou erned your stripes with that one.
Max Planck


Owl pass.


Gravatar'New Zealand is more famous for a certain Crowe.
Marwood '

Awk! there you are just raven on.


GravatarDid you hear about the guy they called 'Woodpecker'. Some said he was a porn star.


GravatarAwk! there you are just raven on.

It was a Poe attempt at a joke, I know.


GravatarI've been looking up my large flightless birds.

Apparently the emu is related to the cassowary -- both have feathered necks, which the ostrich does not.

The rhea of South America is in the same family as the ostrich, but has split into three separate species.


GravatarSorry, that wasn't a pun.


Gravatar'You erned your stripes with that one.
Max Planck'

Can't say you don't have a certain talon of your own.


GravatarApparently the emu is related to the cassowary

And David Cassowary was in the Partridge Family, which is really confusing.


GravatarUntouchable-
http://tinyurl.com/osdr7


Gravatar'Did you hear about the guy they called 'Woodpecker'. Some said he was a porn star.
Mark B. in Austin Texas '

not a pun? Well, p'raps you just beaked a little early.


Gravatar2601


GravatarDid you hear about the guy they called 'Woodpecker'. Some said he was a porn star.
Mark B. in Austin Texas | 08.12.06 - 2:30 pm | #

you must admit his co-stars all had spectacular boobies.


Gravatar'And David Cassowary was in the Partridge Family, which is really confusing.
Marwood '

loony if you ask me.


GravatarAnd David Cassowary was in the Partridge Family, which is really confusing.

All the positions were full in The Byrds and The Eagles.


GravatarIf the Tabloids were screaming this about the Clenis© and a minority member of his cabinet, what do you suppose headline news, faux news, and Tweety MAtthews would be screaming?

Yeah, now that you mention it, it is odd that this item hasn't become front page news. Especially since David Broder, the Dean of Washington Infotainers, recently justified his fishing expedition between the Clintons' sheets by explaining authoritatively that public knowledge of our once and future elected and nearly-elected leaders' marital intimacies is crucial to sustaining our democracy and way of life.

The Dean is a pretty high-class call man, and he wouldn't say it if it weren't true.

On the other hand, I can't believe that the Lump would really object to the Unitard™ 's dalliances with Condomleakage. I'm sure that the Lump is well aware of the Southern version of droit de seigneur, and would hardly seek to deny her spouse that ancient and venerated privilege. The Lump did her duty, even though she failed to bear a male heir, and one would assume that she prefers that hubby gratifies his carnal impulses elsewhere.


Gravatarif you didn't know what a titmouse was...well, the visuals could be interesting.


Gravatar2601

Fuck.

The list of stories on that web page is staggering. As is the lack of coverage of same on TV.


Gravatar'you must admit his co-stars all had spectacular boobies.
SHG'

But such e-grebe-ious characters.


GravatarApparently the government missed the part about Human Subjects committees.


Gravatarif you didn't know what a titmouse was...well, the visuals could be interesting.
hellkitty


I do know and they are cute little birds with an interesting call.

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GravatarWe got LIQUIDS on a motherfucking plane!


GravatarThe list of stories on that web page is staggering. As is the lack of coverage of same on TV.

Well, you can't expect TV news to cover the dead - it might depress us and make us think this Iraq thing wasn't the bestest idea ever.


Gravatar'if you didn't know what a titmouse was...well, the visuals could be interesting.
hellkitty'

some of those visuals can't be tufted.


GravatarWebb is right to concentrate on Allen and not worry about other races.
Snow, Sublimest
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However, Webb, like all dem candidates, should almost exclusively go on the offensive and keep the defensive statements to a minimum. Constantly responding to rethug attacks is just what they want and is just what they need to continue controlling congress.

Dems need to attack; and there are an overwhelming amount of points to attack them on--domestically and internationally.

Katrina must be used as an example of a severely failed aspect of homeland security, for one.

With over 60% of Americans disillusioned about Iraq, the dems must go on the offensive. The time for radicalizing fellow Americans was never more appropriate than now (in terms of the past six years).


GravatarApparently the emu is related to the cassowary

That explains the feathers in the tunafish cassowary they served at the pot-luck supper.

It did taste suspiciously like chicken, now that I think of it.


GravatarSamuel L. Jackson discusses "Snakes On a Plane" with Keith on Countdown Monday.


GravatarStupid Fucking Wingnuts

We don't have to give up freedom and liberty to be safe. THAT is what England just proved, not the other way around.


Gravatarsorrym you've stirred up a birdwatcher, but must say I've always wondered if it wouldn't finally make an impression when the cretin in chief killed as many merkins as 9/11.


Gravatar'I do know and they are cute little birds with an interesting call.

.
agave'

love them a lot, also the cedar waxwings.


Gravatar'It did taste suspiciously like chicken, now that I think of it.
Little Brøther '

a be-gilling taste for sure.


GravatarI've always wondered if it wouldn't finally make an impression when the cretin in chief killed as many merkins as 9/11.
Ruth


Merkins is the key concept, because he's already killed at least ten times as many Iraqi citizens.


GravatarI've always wondered if it wouldn't finally make an impression when the cretin in chief killed as many merkins as 9/11.

Well, if you count in the Katrina dead, he's already over quota.


GravatarMena--looking over the NYT article, I can't believe that they could legitimately leap over the legal hurdles to engage in such things. But I'm naive that way.


GravatarRuth & Agave, we are all in TX are we not?


GravatarConnecticut Senate: Two Days After Primary, Lieberman Ahead by 5
Lieberman 46%, Lamont 41%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/ ...ticutSenate.htm

July 23 it was 40 to 40 and June 19 it was 44% lieberman to 29% Lamont


GravatarInterestingly, not too long ago I totally silenced a winger I was talking with on another blog by mentioning that Iraqs were dying too. Is it possible that no one realizes that is also life, being brown and all?


GravatarDrive by, but I understand via AmericaBlog that in Philadelphia and Arizona (?) at least, the confiscated "explosives" are being auctioned off on E-bay or given to the homeless.

Which means, of course, they know that stuff isn't dangerous. So why did they confiscate it?

This kind of thing is gonna improve Bush's numbers? Or help the GOP? Yeah, right.


GravatarSo... this is it, right? This is THE thread, today?
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GravatarSecurity Theater:

My stuff is too dangerous to take in a carry-on so I have to abandon it at the check, but it is not too dangerous for some airports to resell it on ebay or give it away to their favorite charities.


Gravatar...thank god they didn't do this kind of shit back in the Sixties.

What, Operation Northwoods?

I seem to remember something about the Gulf of Tonkin...


Gravatar'Ruth & Agave, we are all in TX are we not?
hellkitty (SHG)'

i am in NTX altho with a cool overcast day today, it doesn't seem like hell for a change. So also are RMJ and Tena, Holden too.


GravatarSo... this is it, right? This is THE thread, today?
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:53 pm | #

and Godot never arrives.


GravatarAre you saying you get nervous when flying? That will no longer be allowed for as of yesterday you can no longer have...SHAKES ON A PLANE!

OK, I'm really, really, sorry about that.


GravatarSallyh - I can't imagine a legal hurdle they wouldn't try to steamroll. It's also getting harder to imagine an unfavorable legal ruling they would acknowledge.


GravatarConnecticutting the Dots: Was/Is NoMoJo a GOPuke Mole?

Or perhaps the better question is: for HOW FUCKING LONG was GoBlowJoe a GOPuke mole?

Did NoMoJo get a free pass on his 2000 Senatorial campaign from the Pukes as a quid pro quo for fucking up the Gore campaign from the inside?

Given the Busheviks deep Connecticut roots, it is not a specious question.


Gravatari am in NTX altho with a cool overcast day today, it doesn't seem like hell for a change. So also are RMJ and Tena, Holden too.
Ruth | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 2:54 pm | #

the TX crew is pretty big. It might be fun to have a EscaTXachon sometime.
I had heard you were going for cool weather today. Its sunny & 91 here in the Hill Country.


GravatarConnecticut Senate: Two Days After Primary, Lieberman Ahead by 5
Lieberman 46%, Lamont 41%


I think that's actually good news. Lieberman's peaked, and once the real Democrats get out and campaign for Lamont, he should be able to make up the gap. Of course, he shouldn't have to, since Connecticut's Democratic voters already made their choice, but some assholes don't know when to go away. I guess the voters are just gonna have to teach L-man again.


GravatarY'know, when the Rethugs descend upon Oliver Stone as a typical Hollywood pussy, they might want to do some homework. As a young man, he specifically requested combat duty in Vietnam. And from his efforts there, was awarded the bronze star with "V(alor)" device, and a Purple Heart with Oak Leaf Cluster.

Meanwhile, Dick Cheney was frantically filing paperwork to enable him to skip out on the whole thing.


GravatarKarakaras


GravatarEsk-ka-TEX-a-co?
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GravatarElectoral sheets!


Gravatargive it up for your man box turtles.


Gravataras opposed to "electrical sheets"


GravatarOops! Esch-a-TEX-a-co.
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Gravatar... meanwhile, if there really were such failures in communication and command and control, that would effectively mean that it's not a real military we're talking about here.

If it's drones doing the killing, they may have been involved in target acquisition as well. Maybe humans were completely out of the loop. This grows increasingly possible with Israeli pilots refusing to hit obvious civilians.

Darth Rumsfeld has been advocating cylon warfighters for awhile now.

Of course, that's not what they call them.

I'm sure he's pleased with the results.


Gravatar'and Godot never arrives.
hellkitty'

Thqat's the huis it is.

Query WGG about
Eschafair in NM Sept 15, lots to be there.


GravatarExcellent effort, Balzac!


GravatarRandom Bullshit Meaningless Thought


Gravatar"I think that the 33-35% that Bush is able to muster these days would be much lower without some of the psychological dynamics associated with answering polls.
Doc"

What with the NSA spying thing, I no longer respond well to anyone asking for any information or opinions. Why give the predators anything at all?

Therefore, I'm...


Gravatardumbass 'Murkans are practically taunting repukelicans to sponsor terrorist events and other assorted violence. un-effing-believable.
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GravatarIs it any surprise that this incompetent administration would foul up their own false flag operation?

The fish smell coming off this episode will only continue to grow stronger. Wait till the trials gear up.
The political motivations behind this false flag action are obvious.

The Bush/Blair neocons would phuck up a baked potato.


Gravatar9-11 didn't happen.


GravatarI post bull-shit on Atrios's website because I live in constant fear because my dickless leader tells me too.


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