I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarWierdie Hippos.


GravatarDamned dirty apes


Gravatardos


Gravatarhmmm...hippie blogging


GravatarTo be honest, I'm kinda dirty having just travelled across the continent.


GravatarWait, does that mean she'll get to meet with him again?

'Cause it's only one meeting with His Highness to a customer. Or at least that's what he told Ms. Sheehan.


GravatarFUCK THE GOP


GravatarNTodd-

How was the security at ORD?


GravatarNTodd-

How was the security at ORD?


GravatarI am not a hippy and don't like being dirty. Can I still participate?


GravatarTo be honest, I'm kinda dirty having just travelled across the continent.

Did you wave when you flew over my house?


GravatarYep--God save us from people who are non-violent, charitable, and want only peace.

The only true measure of cilivlized man is how much random violence he can perpetrate.


GravatarSadly, Digby nails the most important point, dead-on:

As we can see from countless articles and columns of the past few weeks, nothing sends the timorous insider Dems scurrying like an accusation that the Party is in the clutches of the crazy liberals. The man knows his adversaries.

Pathetic.


Gravatar"It was a very private meeting and that is the way we want to keep it," she said Friday. "He is a wonderful man. How many other presidents have sat down with the families? None that I know of."

Um...since Nixon, how many have had to?


GravatarI've never met a DIRTY hippie.


GravatarHere comes Ben Cartwright, the pops of the Ponderosa whose credo was"A man's never wrong doing what he thinks is right."


"I may not ever be right, but I'm always certain." - George W. Bush


GravatarHere comes Ben Cartwright, the pops of the Ponderosa whose credo was"A man's never wrong doing what he thinks is right."


"I may not ever be right, but I'm always certain." - George W. Bush


GravatarAs we can see from countless articles and columns of the past few weeks, nothing sends the timorous insider Dems scurrying like an accusation that the Party is in the clutches of the crazy liberals. The man knows his adversaries.

Pathetic.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11


Which is why Dean and Reid are denouncing Lieberman and backing Lamont? And Hillary is blasting Cheney and calling for Rumsfeld's head? And why Democrats are united because of Lamont's nomination? And even beltway pundits now admit the House may go Democratic (something they said was impossible 3 months ago)?

Pathetic, indeed.


GravatarGoddamn fucking GOP moles.


GravatarSpeaking of Our Gal Cindy:


http://www.comcast.net/news/ nati...vqh=itn_sheehan


GravatarHow was the security at ORD?

Didn't have to go through screening, so didn't see. Not much of a visible presence inside the terminal, though--just announcements on the PA about not bringing liquids onto the planes.

The TSA did inspect one of my bags. Didn't steal anything this time.


GravatarHow was the security at ORD?

Didn't have to go through screening, so didn't see. Not much of a visible presence inside the terminal, though--just announcements on the PA about not bringing liquids onto the planes.

The TSA did inspect one of my bags. Didn't steal anything this time.


Gravatar"It was a very private meeting and that is the way we want to keep it," she said Friday. "He is a wonderful man. How many other presidents have sat down with the families? None that I know of."

Eh. How many other sons have you lost during other presidencies? None. How would know, then?

"He said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.' And he thanked us for raising the type of child we did. That's part of what he wrote in the scrapbook," Karlson told the newspaper.

I thought this was a private meeting that you didn't really want to disclose. Of course, GWB didn't love the military enough to actually join it.


Gravatarnothing sends the timorous insider Dems scurrying like an accusation that the Party is in the clutches of the crazy liberals.

Sadly, they've been able to play this game with Reasonable Levelheaded Liberals for, oh, about 80 years now. Just accuse 'em of having communists or socialists or anarchists or whatever in their ranks, and it really IS purge time.


GravatarI've never met a DIRTY hippie.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 5:37 pm | #


You should have seen me in 1967.


GravatarYep--God save us from people who are non-violent, charitable, and want only peace.

The only true measure of cilivlized man is how much random violence he can perpetrate.
Derelict


Thomas Merton and Dorothy Day and Philip Berrigan must die!

What? They are dead?

Never mind.


Gravatar"He is a wonderful man. How many other presidents have sat down with the families? None that I know of."


How much did Rove and Company promise her to utter that bullshit, I wonder?


GravatarI for one, salute our Islamocommiefaschistinian overloards!!!
.


GravatarWhy only half the idiots at TNR? What will the other idiots be doing?


GravatarPardon the ignorance, but who is Dan Gerstein and what does he have to do with the article?

Oh, and why should it reflect so well on Bush that this woman has had to wait three years just to find out how her son died? In what kind of world does that translate into strong leadership?


GravatarGary Cooper, circa High Noon, is the real man Dems should be patterning themselves on for this fall. See Murtha, John.


GravatarHe said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.' And he thanked us for raising the type of child we did. That's part of what he wrote in the scrapbook," Karlson told the newspaper.





Stupid bitch!


GravatarOh, and why should it reflect so well on Bush that this woman has had to wait three years just to find out how her son died? In what kind of world does that translate into strong leadership?
Halfdan


I was wondering about that. Glad she's going to find out and all, but how does this reflect well on Bush? Except as a Stalinist leader who deigns to share his glory with the people once every two years, close to November?

I'm with Digby; ain't gonna work no more.


GravatarIf NTodd AND flory are typing, who is driving the car?


Gravatar"He said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.'

I'm sure a child might think he loves his toy soldiers, too.

Except the child probably would take better care of his.


GravatarOf course, GWB didn't love the military enough to actually join it.
Snow, Sublimest


Well, he joined it -- till he got tired of it and quit.

Doesn't love it enough to make sure they've got the tools to do the job he sends them on tho. Or to take care of them when they come home.


Gravatar If NTodd AND flory are typing, who is driving the car?

We're getting together TOMORROW!


Gravatari missed this the first go around. lookie here, the UK has a PR firm specializing on false flag operations.

Strategic Communication Laboratories, a small U.K. firm specializing in "influence operations" made a very public debut this week with a glitzy exhibit occupying prime real estate at Defense Systems & Equipment International, or DSEi, the United Kingdom's largest showcase for military technology. The main attraction was a full-scale mock-up of its ops center, running simulations ranging from natural disasters to political coups.

written by the woman who investigated questionable fringe science projects being funded by the pentagon.


GravatarWhich is why Dean and Reid are denouncing Lieberman and backing Lamont? And Hillary is blasting Cheney and calling for Rumsfeld's head? And why Democrats are united because of Lamont's nomination?

Time will tell. Particularly as the Rovesters counterattack.

It will be a major reversal of form if the collective Democratic will to oppose Bush holds.

I'd certainly welcome it, but I suspect there's less to the instances you (correctly) cite than meets the eye.


GravatarAny of numerous characters Bogie portrayed would work for the Dems as well. These were strong men, not tough guys, ready to stand their ground, but too smart to go around provoking others into fights.


Gravatar"He said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.' And he thanked us for raising the type of child we did. That's part of what he wrote in the scrapbook," Karlson told the newspaper.

I thought this was a private meeting that you didn't really want to disclose. Of course, GWB didn't love the military enough to actually join it.
Snow, Sublimest

It's all those bald heads.


Gravatar"He said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.'



Yeah, he loves it so much he never had the balls to join it himself.

He makes me sick!


GravatarBut I'm a tidy biostatistician...

Blackberry cobbler currently in progress.


GravatarGary Cooper, circa High Noon, is the real man Dems should be patterning themselves on for this fall.

Of course in real life Gary Cooper was a racist rightwing nut who couldn't wait to play the lead in a movie version of some of Ayn Rand's pulp fiction.


GravatarI'm with Digby; ain't gonna work no more.

I've been saying that for several months--since Katrina hit. These bozos have lost their mojo.


GravatarNTodd--you and Flory? What will the neighbors say!


Gravatar"He said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.'

"Yessir, I just loves the mili-taree. I love the way I can make 'em stand around while I send 'em off to get their legs blown off. And they havta do what I say! Yep, they make me look pretty goddamn impressive, I must say."


GravatarAny of numerous characters Bogie portrayed would work for the Dems as well. These were strong men, not tough guys, ready to stand their ground, but too smart to go around provoking others into fights.

What nationality are you?

I'm a drunkard.

That makes Rick a citizen of the world.


GravatarGary Cooper was a racist rightwing nut who couldn't wait to play the lead in a movie version of some of Ayn Rand's pulp fiction.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in



Admired Hitler a bit too much for my liking.


Gravatar NTodd--you and Flory? What will the neighbors say!

I'm not concerned about them. I'm more concerned with room service right now. Gah, I hate changing 3 time zones.


GravatarIf NTodd AND flory are typing, who is driving the car?

We're getting together TOMORROW!
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom

Well! No need to get huffy just because I can't read and eat with my mouth open.

sheesh.


GravatarThese bozos have lost their mojo.

Their bozo mojo is a no go.


GravatarSo we've known about al Qaeda plots to use liquid explosives to blow up planes in flight for, oh, about 11 years now.

Night, Blight, Terror and Fright. Be afraid. Woolybooly!

Woolybooly.

I'm sorry, I just can't seem to get scart.


Gravatarmonica's philly story in the last thread, prompts me to tell of my little encounter this afternoon.

came home from the store to encounter two holy rollers (prolly jehovas witnesses) standing at the top of my stoop.

hr: good afternoon, mam. do you live here.
me: yes.
hr: could you spare a few minutes to learn about the lord. we intend to speak to everyone in your building.
me: no.
hr: well, could you tell us your name, that way we won't press your buzzer.
me: no. salam malakim. (laughed all the way up the stairs to my apt.)


Gravatar"He said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.'

"Yessir, I just loves the mili-taree. I love the way I can make 'em stand around while I send 'em off to get their legs blown off. And they havta do what I say! Yep, they make me look pretty goddamn impressive, I must say."
Pere Ubu |


He can't wait to wrap his legs around a cadet!


Gravatar"He is a wonderful man. How many other presidents have sat down with the families? None that I know of."

Lincoln, Roosevelt, Wilson and Kennedy all urinated on the faces of military families!


GravatarWell! No need to get huffy just because I can't read and eat with my mouth open.

DON'T MOCK MY HUFFY BIKE, MOTHERFUCKER!


GravatarIf NTodd AND flory are typing, who is driving the car?
ellroon lambofascist


The chauffeur?

We're going winerying tomorrow.


GravatarI read a comment (I theenk at Digby's place) last night that we should follow Gerstein and the Liebermaniacs to their next campaign, and see eef that campaign ees no rrripe for a primary challenge also.

The idea was that these consultants are the weak leenks, so we target each campaign they work on.

Soon we have relpaced all their candidates weeth ours, or we have rendered them useless.

Works for me, no?

so.


GravatarI'd certainly welcome it, but I suspect there's less to the instances you (correctly) cite than meets the eye.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11


The track records is certainly unimpressive. But Bush is down to 33% (five points above Cheney) with no help from the Dems. A majority of the country wants out of Iraq, again with no help from the Dems. A majority even wants the Dems to run Congress, again with no help from the Dems.

I don't think Bush has the ability, or the credibility, to turn this thing around now, no matter what the Dems do. And the Dems seem to have learned from the loss of Lieberman.

But we'll see....


GravatarYou should have seen me in 1967.

steve simels | 08.12.06 - 5:39 pm | #


Oh for that damn time machine!


GravatarThe very high probability right now is that the Democrats will retake the House. The Senate I would put at no better than 50-50, today.

However, I think that three more months of GOP Business As Usual will push another ten percent of the public to the Democrats.

Lamont is going to win his seat. Lieberman will get, oh, thirty or even forty percent, but that's it. The Republican will get six or eight percent; a lot of Republicans will vote for Lieberman rather than their own guy, as he has a much greater chance of winning, and he acts, let's face it, indistinguishably from the Republican senators.


Gravatarhr: good afternoon, mam. do you live here.
me: yes.
hr: could you spare a few minutes to learn about the lord. we intend to speak to everyone in your building.
me: no.
hr: well, could you tell us your name, that way we won't press your buzzer.
me: no. salam malakim. (laughed all the way up the stairs to my apt.)
linda



A Jesus freak walked up to a buddy of mine once.

"Have you found Jesus yet?"

"Yes, but I returned him for size!"


GravatarThese bozos have lost their mojo.

Their bozo mojo is a no go.
SteveNS

Just like NoMoJo's?


GravatarGary Cooper was a racist rightwing nut who couldn't wait to play the lead in a movie version of some of Ayn Rand's pulp fiction.

Good, now I've got "John Wayne Was A Nazi" by MDC going through my head.


GravatarNTodd--you and Flory? What will the neighbors say!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Janeane -- eat your heart out!!


GravatarWe're going winerying tomorrow.

Don't fall for NTodd's trick of using a whale penis bone to stir the lees in his wine.


GravatarI'm talking about iconic images, not actors. You counter Rovian frame with a different frame. I'm saying Robert "Go on, knock it off, I dare you" Conrad is not the only masculine frame out there, and Dems would do well to be pushing an alternative at every opportunity.


GravatarDON'T MOCK MY HUFFY BIKE, MOTHERFUCKER!
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom

mock mock poke poke mock neener neener


Gravatar"He is a wonderful man. How many other presidents have sat down with the families? None that I know of."



Can she OR her precious preznit even NAME any other presidents?


GravatarDON'T MOCK MY HUFFY BIKE, MOTHERFUCKER! -NTodd

I'd have bet money you'd have a Schwinng!


GravatarI've been saying that for several months--since Katrina hit. These bozos have lost their mojo.
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom


I think Katrina is on more people's minds than is generally acknowledged.

It's the basso continuo of discontent that runs through all the problems for the GOP. Certainly the Democrats haven't done any damage to them.


GravatarOh, and why should it reflect so well on Bush that this woman has had to wait three years just to find out how her son died? In what kind of world does that translate into strong leadership?

Maybe she should speak to the Tillmans about THEIR son's death.


GravatarThe idea was that these consultants are the weak leenks, so we target each campaign they work on.


Yeah, one would think that a simple, manifest lack of successful results would discourage our party leaders from following these morons' advice and showering them with our hard-earned contributions, but apparently that isn't enough.


GravatarGary Cooper was a racist rightwing nut who couldn't wait to play the lead in a movie version of some of Ayn Rand's pulp fiction.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in


Timothy Dalton played a very Gary Cooper-like character in a movie in which the lovely Jennifer Connelly appeared. Most beautifully I might add.

Not Timothy Dalton, Jennifer Connelly. She's very pretty. I case you didn't know. Dumber than a rock but cute.

Terrible actress as well, but easy on the eyes.


GravatarDon't fall for NTodd's trick of using a whale penis bone to stir the lees in his wine.

Great, ruin EVERYTHING why don't you?


GravatarI'm saying Robert "Go on, knock it off, I dare you" Conrad is not the only masculine frame out there, and Dems would do well to be pushing an alternative at every opportunity.
JeffCO


Another winger.

Played G. Gordon Liddy in a TV movie because he admired him so much.

Ugh!


GravatarDon't fall for NTodd's trick of using a whale penis bone to stir the lees in his wine.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in


Ummm......ok.


GravatarAd on CNN.com:

"TARGET: USA
CNN looks at where Americans are most vulnerable
All Day Monday
Only on CNN"

Wheee! something to look forward to! "All Day" yet!


GravatarTimothy Dalton played a very Gary Cooper-like character in a movie in which the lovely Jennifer Connelly appeared. Most beautifully I might add.

Not Timothy Dalton, Jennifer Connelly. She's very pretty. I case you didn't know. Dumber than a rock but cute.

Terrible actress as well, but easy on the eyes.
Snow, Sublimest


Timothy Dalton is a hottie....and Jennifer Connelly's husband ain't nothing I would turn my nose up at, either!


GravatarDon't fall for NTodd's trick of using a whale penis bone to stir the lees in his wine.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in

Ummm......ok.
flory

And avoid the spit bucket.


GravatarOf course in real life Gary Cooper was a racist rightwing nut who couldn't wait to
play the lead in a movie version of some of Ayn Rand's pulp fiction.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in | 08.12.06 - 5:44 pm | #


2 words:

He boinked the young Patricia Neal.



Lucky bastard.


GravatarTimothy Dalton played a very Gary Cooper-like character in a movie in which the lovely Jennifer Connelly appeared. Most beautifully I might add.

No, no, that was the Rocketeer, and Dalton's spy in that was clearly modelled after Errol Flynn. Jesus, so many good-looking Nazis in old Hollywood...


GravatarWheee! something to look forward to! "All Day" yet!
Pere Ubu


I'm blocking CNN from my channel selector for the next month or so.

Just until they calm down and stop having sex with the terrorist story.


GravatarAnd the Dems seem to have learned from the loss of Lieberman.

I hope so... again, we'll know a lot more when the first few waves of polls come in from CT. If Joe doesn't look "dead yet" there'll be a lot of "fuzzing around the edges" from the DLC establishment.

It does help that it is simply impossible to successfully depict Ned Lamont as a flaming liberal hippie pinko.

Look at that family of his... they look like Mormons, for goodness sake.


GravatarHe boinked the young Patricia Neal.

He forced her to get an abortion for the sake of his career.
(Regular) bastard.


GravatarOT

youtube debate between David Sirota and Ann Coulter

in case you missed it! David is superb!


GravatarWe don't need Gary Cooper, we need Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch.

Tough as whip-leather, uncompromising in his ethics, devoted to his family, and still able to pick off a rabid dog two blocks away. And liberal to the bone.


GravatarTimothy Dalton played a very Gary Cooper-like character in a movie in which the lovely Jennifer Connelly appeared. Most beautifully I might add.

Rocketeer.

And she's not a bad actress.


GravatarJust until they calm down and stop having sex with the terrorist story.

Hell, the FCC should fine 'em for THAT obscenity.


GravatarThe Lieberman site is back up, and it has Joe's phone number.


GravatarJennifer Connelly is married to a Brit, Paul Bettany.


GravatarWheee! something to look forward to! "All Day" yet!
Pere Ubu | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 5:51 pm | #

Now there's a great idea! CNN Reports America's Achilles Heel. "We tell the terrorists so you don't have to"!
/snark


GravatarNo, no, that was the Rocketeer, and Dalton's spy in that was clearly modelled after Errol Flynn. Jesus, so many good-looking Nazis in old Hollywood...

It's ok. I just wanted to mention Jennifer Connelly. Cooper, Flynn, what's the difference?


GravatarAnd she's not a bad actress.
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom



I think she deserved the Oscar she got for "A Beautiful Mind."


Gravatar2 words:

He boinked the young Patricia Neal.


Yowza. Between her and the young Barbara Stanwick, there were some incredibly hot women around then.


GravatarHouse of Sand and Fog.


GravatarTough as whip-leather, uncompromising in his ethics, devoted to his family, and still able to pick off a rabid dog two blocks away. And liberal to the bone.
Doc


Noble defender of lost causes.

Wait, let's forget that one....


GravatarOnly three years, and she still doesn't have details about how her son died. This says it all.

Fuckin' incompetent.


GravatarWell, I'll go do housework and justify my existence.

Drink wisely and well, NTodd and flory! Wine clubs are a blast to belong to, btw.


GravatarWe don't need Gary Cooper, we need Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch.

Tough as whip-leather, uncompromising in his ethics, devoted to his family, and still able to pick off a rabid dog two blocks away. And liberal to the bone.
Doc |


Burt Lancaster. Another real liberal.

Paid for the legal defense of a black soldier accused of killing his commanding officer in Nam.

The man was acquitted.


GravatarYou should have seen me in 1967.

steve simels


Or me in 1968. Went to Frisco with fecking flowers in my hair.


GravatarBlackberry cobbler currently in progress.

Sallyh! Willing to share? They are telling me that the blackberries here in the mid-south are already gone.
In PA we were getting them through September.(Damn redneck hicks never heard of mowing them over for a second freaking harvest?)


GravatarOnly three years, and she still doesn't have details about how her son died. This says it all.

Fuckin' incompetent.
mer


And she thinks he's fucking wonderful.

Is she insane????


GravatarBoots:

"He said, 'I just love the military. There's just something about military families.' And he thanked us for raising the type of child we did. That's part of what he wrote in the scrapbook," Karlson told the newspaper.

GOD DAMNIT. He loves the military? That's why the sorry motherfucker DESERTED?

Raising the type of CHILD???

The man was thirty fucking six god damn years old, George.

GOD DAMNIT.


GravatarYowza. Between her and the young Barbara Stanwick, there were some incredibly hot women around then.


May I add Yvonne DeCarlo (pre-Lily Munster of course)?


GravatarThis woman waits 3 years to find out how her son died, and she's impressed monkeyboy talked to her? How sad. She should be angry.

Other than that, how's everyone's Saturday going? Sallyh, are your sinuses any better?


GravatarRaising the type of CHILD???

The man was thirty fucking six god damn years old, George.

GOD DAMNIT.
billy b



Well, Bush is the world's only 60 year old frat boy.

He judges others by himself.


GravatarYou should have seen me in 1967.

steve simels

Or me in 1968. Went to Frisco with fecking flowers in my hair.
ql in ny


Or me in 1969.


GravatarYou should have seen me in 1967.

steve simels

Or me in 1968. Went to Frisco with fecking flowers in my hair.
ql in ny


Or me in 1969.


GravatarOne of the interesting things about the referenced AOHell article is the accompanying poll. With over 200k votes in, over 50% think that Bush is doing a poor job as commander in chief.


GravatarWe're going winerying tomorrow.
flor

Didn't know Gallo was open on Sundays.


GravatarDrink wisely and well, NTodd and flory!

And take pictures. Especially if there's nudity involved.


Wait. Did I just type that?


GravatarGOD DAMNIT. He loves the military? That's why the sorry motherfucker DESERTED?

Raising the type of CHILD???

The man was thirty fucking six god damn years old, George.

GOD DAMNIT.
billy b


He really stretches the limits of "humanity," doesn't he?


GravatarWe're getting together TOMORROW!
NTodd,


What about tonight. Youse guys are no fun. You're not giving us anything to gossip about.


GravatarYou've obviously never seen In Love and Shadows. Banderas sucked in that too.


GravatarMay I add Yvonne DeCarlo (pre-Lily Munster of course)?
Kid Charlemagne


She was gorgeous.

She had a thing going with Robert Stack in those early days. He wasn't hard on the eyes back then.


GravatarDidn't know Gallo was open on Sundays.

They're Thunderbirding.


GravatarNTodd--weren't you embryonic for part of 1969?


GravatarNot Timothy Dalton, Jennifer Connelly. She's very pretty. I case you didn't know. Dumber than a rock but cute.

Terrible actress as well, but easy on the eyes.


Ever see "The Hot Spot"? But unfortunately Ms. Connelly has decided to starve herself the last few years, which doesn't help one age well.


Gravatar NTodd--weren't you embryonic for part of 1969?

For a significant portion, yes. Life was good.


GravatarHe boinked the young Patricia Neal.

He forced her to get an abortion for the sake of his career.
(Regular) bastard.
ebola boa |


Cooper and his wife, "Rocky", had an open marriage from the get-go.


Gravatarevening moonbats


GravatarAnother semi-successful day of capitalism over and I'm off home. Hope the rest of the weekend sees you all well.


GravatarOr me in 1969.

Pantless then as well.


GravatarDidn't know Gallo was open on Sundays.

They're Thunderbirding.


You guys are funny.


GravatarOr me in 1969.
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom


I was pretty dirty in 1969, too, but it was mostly from playing in my sandbox.

Even during the height of my angry young man days, I took a shower every day.


GravatarMs. Connelly has decided to starve herself the last few years, which doesn't help one age well.
Halfdan


A lot of them doing that.

And getting bad plastic surgery.

Not attractive!


Gravatar1969? Woodstock!


Gravatar1969? Woodstock!


GravatarEl Gato Negro--how do joo like yourrr
steak done, no?

So.


GravatarLet's kill ourselves then the arabs will love us


GravatarTerror suspects still in custody

Britain remains on the highest state of terror alert as detectives continue to question more than 20 suspects over the alleged transatlantic liquid bomb plot.

With detectives in the UK quizzing suspects seized in Thursday's dawn raids, officials in Pakistan singled out British-born Rashid Rauf - who was arrested there ahead of the UK swoops - as a "key player".

Pakistan said the arrest of Rauf and others in the country had "triggered" Thursday's dawn raids in London, Birmingham and High Wycombe, Bucks - foiling what police believe was a plot to murder thousands of passengers mid-air on up to 10 aircraft.

Among 24 people arrested in Britain was Tayib Rauf, 22, from Birmingham - believed to be Rashid's brother.


GravatarYou've obviously never seen In Love and Shadows. Banderas sucked in that too.
Snow, Sublimest



Antonio is HIGH on MY "I would do without a second thought" list.

Yummy!


GravatarRepublicans are like fierce shadows.
The dems ought not to be afraid of shadows.
They ought not be afraid of being called woosies.


Gravatar Let's kill ourselves then the arabs will love us
Liberals


Sigh. So many strawman, so little time to light them all on fire.


Gravatarmymymy -- nope, the gop surely wouldn't use a 'terrorist plot' for political gain ...:

Source: U.S., U.K. at odds over timing of arrests
British wanted to continue surveillance on terror suspects, official says
By Aram Roston, Lisa Myers, and the
NBC News
Updated: 4:58 p.m. ET Aug 12, 2006
LONDON - NBC News has learned that U.S. and British authorities had a significant disagreement over when to move in on the suspects in the alleged plot to bring down trans-Atlantic airliners bound for the United States.

A senior British official knowledgeable about the case said British police were planning to continue to run surveillance for at least another week to try to obtain more evidence, while American officials pressured them to arrest the suspects sooner. The official spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the case.

In contrast to previous reports, the official suggested an attack was not imminent, saying the suspects had not yet purchased any airline tickets. In fact, some did not even have passports.

The source did say, however, that police believe one U.K.-based suspect was ready to conduct a "dry run." British authorities had wanted to let him go forward with part of the plan, but the Americans balked.

At the White House, a top aide to President Bush denied the account.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14320452/


GravatarLet's kill ourselves then the arabs will love us
Liberals


You go first, Huckleberry.


GravatarLet's kill ourselves then the arabs will love us
Liberals | 08.12.06 - 6:01 pm | #


Okay.

You go first, Chucko.


GravatarA lot of them doing that.

And getting bad plastic surgery.

Not attractive!


And the results only get progressively worse with each surgery done.

see: Rivers, Joan


GravatarDepending upon who you ask, I was alive for as much as all of 1969.


GravatarMy point is that Rove has been successful pushing the manly man frame for several election cycles, and the Dems should wise up and realize you don't beat it by knuckling under. Reality is that these are not strong men, they're bullies and thugs, the kind of guys in the movies that real men stood up to and rode out of town on a rail.

Commander Codpiece only looks like a "real man" in the absence of actual strength of character. And sadly, the Dems have too long been all about an absence of strength of character. We already know they are going to play the "strong father" frame to the hilt over the next several months. It's way past time for Dems nationally to inhabit a different kind of strong father, the kind who doesn't get everyone killed through reckless stupidity.


GravatarTerror suspects still in custody,

Moonbootica, Opera Buff |



What are they going to do - keep those guys in custody for years without a trial?


GravatarJinx, Pere Ubu. You owe me a coke.


GravatarBirthday party next door.

Worst lounge lizard live band performing. Worst. Ever.


GravatarLet's RAWK


GravatarAnd the results only get progressively worse with each surgery done.

see: Rivers, Joan
SteveNS


Another one, too, who avoids food like the plague.


GravatarIsraeli helicopter shot down over Lebanon

An Israeli military helicopter has been shot down tonight over southern Lebanon by Hizbullah guerrillas, according to Israeli security officials. The Israeli army has confirmed the report and said that there were an unspecified number of people wounded in the attack.

The four-man aircraft was shot down in the Maryamein valley near the village of Yater, and other helicopters scrambled to the area to try to rescue the crew. Israel's Channel 10 TV reported that the helicopter had been brought down by an anti-tank missile.


GravatarAnd why do I want the Arabs to love me?


GravatarTerry C, the British authorties can hold the suspects for 28 days.


GravatarRove has been successful pushing the manly man frame



And look at HIM - Truman Capote on acid.


GravatarAnyone read Gerg Palast's latest book yet?

I just started it today.


GravatarIt's not about excellence it's about everyone racing for the bottom. We all need to fail then we will all succeed.


GravatarKill More Jews.


GravatarTerry C, the British authorties can hold the suspects for 28 days.
Moonbootica, Opera Buff


That's good to hear.

I'm pretty disgusted with MY own country's way of handling it.


GravatarProject much, conservatives?


GravatarLooks like the "Stalin" troll is back under another name.


GravatarSigh. So many strawman, so little time to light them all on fire. -NTodd

They mix them with their own excrement to build their homes.


GravatarAnd why do I want the Arabs to love me?
Snow, Sublimest


==

A "Midnight at the Oasis" fantasy, perhaps?


GravatarProject much, conservatives?
Snow, Sublimest



Because that and namestealing is all they have left.

Their fantasy world is collapsing around their ears.


GravatarOrdinary friends who grew devout together

As small boys they walked the few hundred yards to primary school together every day. At 3.15pm they ran out of the school gates to kick a football in the street and buy sweets in the nearby shop. When they became teenagers their interests were those of most young men: Premiership football, girls, clothes and music; and as young adults they grew devout together.

In Walthamstow, which emerged yesterday as one of the focal points of the alleged plot to blow up transatlantic airliners, those who knew the nine young men arrested from their family homes by anti-terrorist police on Thursday morning insisted they were ordinary boys with unremarkable lives.


GravatarGerstein of course is the political genius who's managed to "advise" his pal Tom Suozzi to an impressive 60-point deficit to Eliot Spitzer in the NY Democratic primary.


GravatarAnd why do I want the Arabs to love me?
Snow, Sublimest


And why wouldn't they love me? It's not like I live in a country that villifies and murders them.

Oh. Wait.


GravatarA "Midnight at the Oasis" fantasy, perhaps?

Well, that would just be a few that I would need.


GravatarLibtardz R Stoopid

JOOOOOOOOOOOOS!


GravatarHey, Liberal

Kill yourself.

Seriously, just do it. The world would be better off without you.


GravatarGerstein of course is the political genius who's managed to "advise" his pal Tom Suozzi to an impressive 60-point deficit to Eliot Spitzer in the NY Democratic primary.

Give that man a raise!


GravatarThey've degenerated into yowping out autistic non-sequiters.

Just like the three-year-old who can only get attention by yelling "shit" in a room full of adults.


GravatarEvening, all.

Went to Brooklyn Botanic Gardens this morning and saw the giant stinkflower that last bloomed in New York in 1939. Very big, very phallic stalk in the middle, but since it pollinated for about 8 hours Thursday night-Friday morning (that's the stinky period), it's empty now and already collapsing in on itself.

Ah, metaphors for the neo-cons are everywhere, aren't they?


GravatarI was pretty dirty in '69, vacationing in sunny S.E. Asia.


Gravatar Minister criticises Muslim letter

Foreign Office minister Kim Howells has criticised Muslim leaders for condemning British foreign policy.

An open letter, signed by three Muslim MPs, three peers and 38 community groups, said the stance on the Middle East has put civilians at risk.

They went on to say that UK policy has given "ammunition to extremists".

But Mr Howells denied there was a "rational connection" and said "no government" formulates policy based on a perceived risk from terrorists.

Downing Street, meanwhile, said Tony Blair "stands ready" to meet Muslim representatives when he returns to the UK.


GravatarAh, metaphors for the neo-cons are everywhere, aren't they?
Gummo


Would be more apt if it were shaped like a giant asshole.


GravatarI'm about to start reading :Virginity or Death!: And Other Social and Political Issues of Our Time" by Katha Pollitt,

Anyone read any good books lately - book reviews being such great troll repellent.


GravatarAh, metaphors for the neo-cons are everywhere, aren't they?
Gummo


==

Haven't you heard? There's a War on Metaphor. And I 40% approve of it.


GravatarThe most unhinged commentary on Joementum yet. And it comes from Newsweek of all places.


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Gravatar Kill More Jews.

Sieg Heil to the president Gasman
Bombs away is your punishment
Pulverize the Eiffel towers
Who criticize your government
Bang bang goes the broken glass and
Kill all the fags that don't agree
Trials by fire, setting fire
Is not a way that's meant for me
Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws yeah!


GravatarWould be more apt if it were shaped like a giant asshole.
Doc


I believe there's a species of Bush that fits that description.


GravatarWould be more apt if it were shaped like a giant asshole.
Doc




GravatarEvening, all.

Went to Brooklyn Botanic Gardens this morning and saw the giant stinkflower that last bloomed in New York in 1939. Very big, very phallic stalk in the middle, but since it pollinated for about 8 hours Thursday night-Friday morning (that's the stinky period), it's empty now and already collapsing in on itself.

Ah, metaphors for the neo-cons are everywhere, aren't they?
Gummo


Karl Rove is the true corpse flower.


Gravatar Reid warns terror threat remains

Recent counter terrorism arrests do not mean the threat to the UK has ended, Home Secretary John Reid has said.

His warning comes as police continue to hold 23 people over an alleged plot to blow up transatlantic jets.

Mr Reid warned against "complacency or self-congratulation" as the threat posed by extremists is "ongoing", as are efforts to combat it.

Sources have told the BBC potential links between the case and the 7 July 2005 attacks are being investigated.

BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said officials are also worried other groups, with no connection to the latest alleged plot, could be inspired to carry out their own attack.


GravatarJust like the three-year-old who can only get attention by yelling "shit" in a room full of adults.

Hey, I still do that.


GravatarI have one of those corpse plants in my front yard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=uSr3Z3EJ3kw


GravatarWould be more apt if it were shaped like a giant asshole.
Doc

I believe there's a species of Bush that fits that description.
SteveNS | 08.12.06 - 6:13 pm | #


So a flaming asshole would be a burning Bush? I'm so confused.


GravatarAfternoon, rational people.


GravatarAnyone read any good books lately - book reviews being such great troll repellent.

Just finished "The Ruins", by Scott Smith.

Genre ficion, but man, he can really write.


GravatarIt's not about excellence it's about everyone racing for the bottom. We all need to fail then we will all succeed.
Liberals


Shut up, dith!


GravatarJoe lieberman is arguably the best friend of the repulicans and fascism since Hillary Clinton.

phazer99


GravatarCause for optimism as markets regain lost ground

Financial markets got back to normal yesterday as shares in British Airways stabilised, oil prices recovered, the pound firmed and hotel groups shrugged off the effects of the terror alerts. Experts predicted some short-term damage to tourism, but said the latest scare would have little effect on the economy.

The FTSE 100 had slumped on Thursday, rattled by fears of lost airline business and a drop in the fuel demand. But stocks had an easier ride yesterday, with oil shares such as BP leading gains for much of the day before a late-afternoon dip. British Airways recovered some ground early on and ended little changed, and shares in InterContinental Hotels rebounded almost 1%. The pound also reversed Thursday's losses to strengthen against the dollar and the euro.


GravatarKill More Jews.
Liberals | 08.12.06 - 6:06 pm | #


Which will finally usher in the era
when my balls will totally dominate
the known universe!

Sounds like a good deal to me!


GravatarThe most unhinged commentary on Joementum yet. And it comes from Newsweek of all places.

spork_incident


Man, I can't tell you how pissed that makes me -- how dare that pompous clueless asshole presume to speak for me just because we were born to the same ethnicity/faith? Anyone who calls himself a "professional jew" deserves jeers & raspberries every opportunity.

Oh, and 1969? Bar mitzvahed, baby!


GravatarAnyone read any good books lately - book reviews being such great troll repellent.

I brought the complete works of Jane Austen for 50p from a local village fête today.


GravatarHaven't you heard? There's a War on Metaphor. And I 40% approve of it.

Metaphor appeasor. Whar is your total suppor(t) for the war on the metaphor?

Do you know what metaphor is . . . uh, for?


GravatarSurprise over arrest of cake firm brothers

Two of the men arrested in Thursday morning's anti-terror raids were brothers who come from a family that runs a cake and confectionery business in Birmingham, it emerged yesterday.

Tayib Rauf, 22, was one of 24 men held and yesterday his name appeared on a Bank of England list of 19 men whose assets had been frozen. Tayib's brother Maroof, 19, was also arrested but his name is not on the Bank of England list.

Friends of the brothers expressed astonishment yesterday that they could be involved in such a plot. "I have known the family for 22 years," said Mohammad Arif, 50, who lives close to the Rauf family in Ward End, a multi-ethnic area close to the city centre and near a house raided by police after last year's London bombings.


GravatarJust like the three-year-old who can only get attention by yelling "shit" in a room full of adults.

Hey, I still do that.


Whatever works!


GravatarMy summer project has been the Discworld novels of Terry Pratchett. Doesn't matter if you like or dislike standard fantasy fare -- they're very funny, which is all that matters.


GravatarOh, and 1969? Bar mitzvahed, baby!

It's 1969 OK
Mazel Tov 'cross the USA...


GravatarAnyone read any good books lately - book reviews being such great troll repellent.


I'm about halfway through Conservatives without conscience.

I think I understand the trolls better. That's not a good thing.


Gravataras for actual reading, am currentl on Zadie Smith's White Teeth.


GravatarI brought the complete works of Jane Austen for 50p from a local village fête today.
Moonbootica, Opera Buff


Wow, is that a score or what!

Is it one of those big, heavy books with tiny print?


GravatarI'm about halfway through Conservatives without conscience.

You went the to PNAC website and copied all the names?


GravatarThey've remade "The Wicker Man"??

With Nicholas Cage????

Nooooooooooooooooooooo!


GravatarMetaphor appeasor. Whar is your total suppor(t) for the war on the metaphor?

Do you know what metaphor is . . . uh, for?
Snow, Sublimest


==

I may never be 60% right, but I'm always 40% ...

/checking math


GravatarJust like the three-year-old who can only get attention by yelling "shit" in a room full of adults.

Hey, I still do that.
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom


Y'know, they require id sez you're 21 before they'll pour you anything at the wineries.
We gonna have a problem tomorrow?


GravatarMan, I can't tell you how pissed that makes me -- how dare that pompous clueless asshole presume to speak for me

Well, Gummo, you're obviously a very bad Jew. Bad bad bad.

I like how Gellman states that being a Jew is no fun anymore because Lieberman lost.

I mean, WTF? It takes a special kind of crazy to reach that conclusion.


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GravatarDiane yeah sort of.

it has illstrations as well.


GravatarNo manlier man than Errol Flynn, at least onscreen, anyway--

Read a funny article about Basil Rathbone saying that one of the more challenging acting jobs he ever had was losing a sword-fight to Errol Flynn. Rathbone was an Olympic-class fencer, and Flynn, offscreen, wasn't.

Speaking of which, I don't think they'll succeed in swiftboating Murtha...


GravatarHis warning comes as police continue to hold 23 people over an alleged plot to blow up transatlantic jets.

An alleged plot?


GravatarWell, Gummo, you're obviously a very bad Jew. Bad bad bad.

Which watertiger delights in reminding me.

'Course, guys like Gellman make being a bad Jew a very attractive situation.


GravatarMy summer project has been the Discworld novels of Terry Pratchett. Doesn't matter if you like or dislike standard fantasy fare -- they're very funny, which is all that matters.
Gummo


I stumbled into that series about four years ago. Those books are without a doubt some of the funniest things I've ever read.


GravatarReid pushes for ban on next wave of EU workers

· Plan to delay rights when Bulgaria and Romania join
· Hoon argues in cabinet to keep open-door policy


Plans to deny Romanians and Bulgarians full rights to work in the UK are being considered by John Reid. Both countries join the EU in January and the potential influx of workers is causing divisions in cabinet.

The home secretary, supported by the work and pensions minister, John Hutton, is understood to be considering a temporary ban. But the Foreign Office wants Britain to keep its open-door policy for EU workers.

The ban is opposed by the Europe minister, Geoff Hoon, who believes it might be a breach of undertakings to the countries, due to join the EU less than 15 years after breaking their ties with the Soviet Union. Mr Hutton is understood to feel that Britain is not ready politically for another potential big influx of EU migrant workers - especially since the number from Romania and Bulgaria could be large, owing to their relatively undeveloped economies and 8% unemployment.

There are also fears that an exodus of key workers could have a devastating impact on the countries themselves.


GravatarThey've remade "The Wicker Man"??

With Nicholas Cage????


Some things are just plain wrong.

This is one of those things.


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GravatarRathbone was an Olympic-class fencer, and Flynn, offscreen, wasn't.

Robin Hood! Basil was a bad, bad, guy.


GravatarY'know, they require id sez you're 21 before they'll pour you anything at the wineries.
We gonna have a problem tomorrow?


Nah. I'll just keep yelling 'shitfuckdamnpisshellassbitch' until they give me vino. Usually works.


GravatarI like how Gellman states that being a Jew is no fun anymore because Lieberman lost.

That 2000-year streak of uninterrupted good luck had to end sometime.


GravatarMan, I can't tell you how pissed that makes me -- how dare that pompous clueless asshole presume to speak for me just because we were born to the same ethnicity/faith?

Gummo

I feel the same way about assholes like Bill O'Wanker, Handjob Hannity, Pat the Nazi Buchanan and that lot.


GravatarWell, Gummo, you're obviously a very bad Jew. Bad bad bad.

Which watertiger delights in reminding me.


Well, it does take one to know one...


GravatarI stumbled into that series about four years ago. Those books are without a doubt some of the funniest things I've ever read.
Diane


Mrs. Gummo's a big fan and has been after me for years to check them out -- she knew I'd like them.

I was just stubborn, as usual.


GravatarI don't know how dirty hippies were/are (I was one, but in comparison to most people on earth today I was pretty clean). But I do know that we were a SKINNY bunch of mongrels back then. I caught a bit of The Concert for Bangaladesh on the Public Teevee Begathon the other night and man, George Harrison and Eric Clapton were skinnier than Paris Hilton. I myself was 6'0" and weighed 125 -130 lbs. (That's how I stayed out of the Vietnam even though I was draft # 8.)


GravatarNTodd, doll,

You have evil, evil mail.


GravatarMoonbootica, I'm getting tired of the Reid says this, Reid says that headlines.

I don't like what he says.

Isn't anyone else getting a word in?


GravatarGreat quote from a transportation security expert (from C&L):

"I don't think giving up our toothpaste in Grand Isle, Nebraska is a step forward in the fight against terrorism."


Gravataras for actual reading, am currentl on Zadie Smith's White Teeth.
Moonbootica, Opera Buff | Homepage | 08.12.06 - 6:19 pm | #


I couldn't finish White Teeth, not finishing a book is rare thing for me. Just didn't get the hype.

Ah well, at least I have books that I should like with me on the plane tomorrow. Unless they've started banning those.

There were a couple pro-Lebanon rallys in the Seattle area the last two days. I was going to get a tshirt until I realize that if my luggage got searched, I would probably end up in Gitmo.

But, at least I would have fresh fruit and lemon chicken!


GravatarBook reviews: Let's see, currently making my way through Proust, vol. 2, "In the Shadow of Young Girls in Flower" (the new Penguin edition/translation, which is excellent!).

Stopped off to re-read Finney's "The Circus of Dr. Lao." Which is still one of the greatest stories ever written.

Recently finished It's Superman!(due out on September, IIRC), which was very good. And No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy, which was so good I stopped writing for a few days to let the shock wear off.

Oh, and read The Messiah of Morris Avenue but didn't think that much of it.


GravatarI don't know how dirty hippies were/are (I was one, but in comparison to most people on earth today I was pretty clean). But I do know that we were a SKINNY bunch of mongrels back then.

Western civilization has gotten capital-F Fat in the last 40 years.


GravatarCentral Scrutinizer sent me Trailer Park Boys and Deadwood on DVD. Arrived today.

I am soooooo looking forward to laughing my ass off...


GravatarBook I would recommend, Stephen Kinzer's Overthrow, which is a look at the last 100 or so years of US policy of regime change. Effing depressing, but excellent.


GravatarNah. I'll just keep yelling 'shitfuckdamnpisshellassbitch' until they give me vino. Usually works.
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom


Thereby proving what a mature 7 yr old you are?


GravatarRecently finished It's Superman!(due out on September, IIRC), which was very good.

I was wondering why I couldn't find that at the bookstore yesterday...

Just as well, I should read more of the books I already own before buying more.


Gravatarpie I don't think so

Reid clearly thinks its his 'hour'

the guy was and still is to a certain extent a Stalinist.


GravatarThat 2000-year streak of uninterrupted good luck had to end sometime.




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GravatarNah. I'll just keep yelling 'shitfuckdamnpisshellassbitch' until they give me vino. Usually works.
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom


They probably think you're requesting one of the German Whites.


GravatarNTodd--are you saying that temper tantrums still work for you?


GravatarI feel the same way about assholes like Bill O'Wanker, Handjob Hannity, Pat the Nazi Buchanan and that lot.
Terry C, Outright Partisan


Ah, yes, TV's professional belligerent Irishmen. Except, unlike the true belligerent Irishman, none of these guys could fight their way out of the proverbial paper bag.


GravatarFlory--you'd better keep a bunch of Matchbox cars and Goldfish crackers on hand tomorrow. You know how children can be.


GravatarNah. I'll just keep yelling 'shitfuckdamnpisshellassbitch' until they give me vino. Usually works.
NTodd, A Very Special Blossom


NTodd -- the World's Most Aggressive Pacifist


GravatarFlory--you'd better keep a bunch of Matchbox cars and Goldfish crackers on hand tomorrow. You know how children can be.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Heh. I say get the naughty boy drunk and have your way with him, flory. You know he wants to...


Gravatar
Oil refinery gives greenhouses a boost with CO2 pipeline


A project to reduce the carbon dioxide emissions from oil refineries by using the gas as "fertiliser" in commercial greenhouses has been so successful it is being extended.

The project, which adds new meaning to the term "greenhouse gas", is the first in the world. It distributes CO2 from Shell's Pernis refinery outside Rotterdam to 400 greenhouses, saving a large amount of natural gas each year, which is equivalent to 170,000 tonnes of CO2.

The companies behind the venture, Hoek Loos and Voker Wessels are now expanding the operation to supply a further 100 greenhouses. Before the project was launched last year the greenhouses, which grow vegetables and flowers, used to generate CO2 by burning natural gas. By tripling the concentration of the gas inside the greenhouse they allow the plants to photosynthesise more quickly. This boosts productivity by up to 25% and cuts growing time, but the CO2 ended up in the atmosphere.


GravatarNo manlier man than Errol Flynn, at least onscreen, anyway--


Liked his women a little young.

And I'm talking "parking-outside-Hollywood High-School-waiting-for-classes-to-let-out" young.


GravatarWhere is that name stolen bit coming from?

Someone seize my computer?


GravatarCentral Scrutinizer sent me Trailer Park Boys and Deadwood on DVD. Arrived today.

How is Central?? Next time you chat tell him I say hey, and pass on my regards to trout.
TIA
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GravatarI myself was 6'0" and weighed 125 -130 lbs. (That's how I stayed out of the Vietnam even though I was draft # 8.)
Bad Art


Wow.
Male anorexia.
That's damn skinny.


GravatarNTodd -- the World's Most Aggressive Pacifist

I'm not a pacifist! I'm into non-violent direct action. When I want my motherfucking wine, for Christ's sake, I want that glass in my goddamned hand NOW!


GravatarWhere's Simels? I'm looking for a very, very bad Jew.


GravatarLater, batses.

Off to quaff elitist chardonnay
blah blah you know the drill.


Talk to you all later this evening.
I hope.


GravatarI just saw a pic of Lamont giving his {ahem} "victory speech". Over his shoulder were Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters and other noted anti-Semites. They all got together to beat the dirty Jew.

Did you see McKinney and her crew after she got her ass kicked. Her aides were screaming about how they were going to beat down the Jews there.

My learned and wise grandmother told me years ago that the Fascists were going to sneak up from the left. God, she was smart.


GravatarThey should make a better movie of 'The Circus of Dr Lao.' It's great, and they did a lousy job with it.

John Keegan's one-volume history of the first world war is beautifully done and heartbreaking. Kept recalling the harrowing song Eric Bogle wrote:

For all of the sorrow and glory and pain,
The killing, the dying, was all done in vain,
For, Willie McBride, it all happened again,
And again and again and again and again.


GravatarI recently plowed through a ton of non-fiction: Conservatives Without a Conscience, Fiasco, The One Percent Doctrine, Cobra II, and Gary Harts not-yet-released, The Courage of Our Convictions: A Manifesto for Democrats.

It's time to do some fiction. Coincidentally, White Teeth is under consideration.


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GravatarFlory--you'd better keep a bunch of Matchbox cars and Goldfish crackers on hand tomorrow. You know how children can be.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


this is sallyh.


Heh. I say get the naughty boy drunk and have your way with him, flory. You know he wants to...
Vicki, Who is Name Stolen


this is vicki.


Any questions?


GravatarYou have evil, evil mail.

Who among us doesn't enjoy evil?


GravatarWhen I want my motherfucking wine, for Christ's sake, I want that glass in my goddamned hand NOW!

You should get Samuel L. Jackson to do a voiceover of your next podcast.


GravatarWhere is that name stolen bit coming from?

Someone seize my computer?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


==

hmmm...The thlot pickens.


GravatarI just saw a pic of Lamont giving his {ahem} "victory speech". Over his shoulder were Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters and other noted anti-Semites. They all got together to beat the dirty Jew.

Keep on projection and erecting those strawmen, Dipshitz Haderach.


GravatarReid clearly thinks its his 'hour'

That these wackos are being given a platform to spew their crap is just too infuriating.

The world will never get any better as long as they're at the helm.


GravatarI myself was 6'0" and weighed 125 -130 lbs.

Damn, That's what I weighed at 5'2" in college.

After one summer in the field doing archaeology, my girlfriend said I looked like a refugee.

(Yeah, I'm short. Deal with it.)


GravatarWho comes up with the names for these missiles? Hezbollah sez they shot a "Waad" at an Israeli helicopter.


Gravatarhad a very pleasant evening celebrating my Grandpa's 89th birthday.

he is doing well since he had his pacemaker fitter, he was so happy being surrounded by family.


GravatarI'm totally against the practice of book-reading. It's immoral.


GravatarRecently finished It's Superman!(due out on September, IIRC), which was very good.

I was wondering why I couldn't find that at the bookstore yesterday...

Just as well, I should read more of the books I already own before buying more.
SteveNS


Sitting behind the counter of a bookstore as I type. One of the few perks is ARC's (Advanced Reader Copy).

Usually they're just more evidence that most new books are worthless.


GravatarHow is Central?? Next time you chat tell him I say hey, and pass on my regards to trout.


He's doing pretty good right now, actually. He's on his way to go fishing out in the sticks, and to catch the meteor showers later tonight.

Ned Lamont's victory was encouraging to him, and The Rev. Terry Fox in Wichita abruptly resigned his position from the Immanuel Baptist Church, so that made his week, too. I will tell him you said "hi," UNE.

Trout's doing good; so are Abba and Drama/Darma (I'm never sure what her exact name is...).


GravatarMy learned and wise grandmother told me years ago that the Fascists were going to sneak up from the left. God, she was smart.
dipshit


==

She meant HER left, dork.


GravatarI'm totally against the practice of book-reading. It's immoral.
Thers


English professors ruined reading for me.


GravatarMy learned and wise grandmother told me years ago...

that you were a dipshit.

She was right.


GravatarDoc--still taller than I am!


GravatarI'm totally against the practice of book-reading. It's immoral.
Thers


So when you deconstruct literature, you literally take the book apart, do you? Pages, spine, glue, everything?


GravatarI feel the same way about assholes like Bill O'Wanker, Handjob Hannity, Pat the Nazi Buchanan and that lot.
Terry C, Outright Partisan

Ah, yes, TV's professional belligerent Irishmen. Except, unlike the true belligerent Irishman, none of these guys could fight their way out of the proverbial paper bag.
Gummo


No, they sure enough couldn't!


Gravatar"I'm totally against the practice of book-reading. It's immoral.
Thers
"

Many books available for purchase by TEENAGERS, or rental in a PUBLIC library, contain words such as the F-word, the brown word, and the B word.


Gravatar flory | 08.12.06 - 6:31 pm



GravatarHezbollah sez they shot a "Waad" at an Israeli helicopter.

Is that based on the design for North Korea's Dong missile?


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GravatarKept recalling the harrowing song Eric Bogle wrote:

I post that song every Veterans Day and every Memorial Day.
Makes me cry everytime I hear it.


GravatarI'm considering going outside. I dunno... it's a big step.


GravatarHezbollah sez they shot a "Waad" at an Israeli helicopter.

So when's the big ceasefire happenin'?


GravatarIs that based on the design for North Korea's Dong missile?





GravatarShame the troll's learned and wise grandmother didn't advise its mother to have an abortion.


GravatarI will tell him you said "hi," UNE.

Thanks a bunch, I miss seeing the guy around. And thanks for the word on Trout and friends.


Gravatar
English professors ruined reading for me.


I hate those Commies!


GravatarSo when you deconstruct literature, you literally take the book apart, do you? Pages, spine, glue, everything?

Thers likes eating the glue.

Or am I thinking of someone else?


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Gravatar-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
I myself was 6'0" and weighed 125 -130 lbs. (That's how I stayed out of the Vietnam even though I was draft # 8.)
Bad Art

Wow.
Male anorexia.
That's damn skinny.
flory | 08.12.06 - 6:29 pm | #


I weighed about 135 when I was in college and I'm about 6'2"/6'3". And it wasn't from not eating. I could put away an entire large Tombstone pizza and follow it up with an entire pint of Ben & Jerry's back then. Easily.


GravatarSo when you deconstruct literature, you literally take the book apart, do you? Pages, spine, glue, everything?
Gummo


Removing the words from the text is a skill taught only in graduate seminars.


GravatarSo when's the big ceasefire happenin'?
pie


As soon as both parties have shot their Waad.


GravatarIt's time to do some fiction. Coincidentally, White Teeth is under consideration.


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spork_incident


I'm about half into Fiasco and have just about decided to skip the rest. Too fucking depressing. How about some recommend some light, slightly naughty reading.


GravatarHezbollah sez they shot a "Waad" at an Israeli helicopter.

So when's the big ceasefire happenin'?
pie


Monday - the Israelis want a couple of days to kill some more Lebanese.


GravatarI'm totally against the practice of book-reading. It's immoral.
Thers


And can lead to unrestricted procreation if you're not careful.


GravatarI'm considering going outside. I dunno... it's a big step.

Then tear it down and build smaller steps.

And a nice front patio would be enjoyable, I'm sure.


GravatarEnglish professors ruined reading for me.
Rmj, Street Credentialed


Fucking phonics came pretty close to doing that for me.

Fortunately, I discovered that the books in the adult section had sex in them. Ironically, I was considered an "advanced" reader.


GravatarI myself was 6'0" and weighed 125 -130 lbs. (That's how I stayed out of the Vietnam even though I was draft # 8.)
Bad Art

Wow.
Male anorexia.
That's damn skinny.
flory | 08.12.06 - 6:29 pm | #

I weighed about 135 when I was in college and I'm about 6'2"/6'3". And it wasn't from not eating. I could put away an entire large Tombstone pizza and follow it up with an entire pint of Ben & Jerry's back then. Easily.
Bas-O-Matic


When you get older, your metabolism changes


GravatarFrom Dong to Waad

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Hizbollah guerrillas shot down an Israeli helicopter in southern Lebanon on Saturday using what they said was a new type of missile.

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The Israeli army said it was the first aircraft shot down in Lebanon since its war with Hizbollah erupted on July 12.

Israeli media said there were casualties but did not say how many. A Hizbollah statement said the helicopter was shot down in a valley near the southern village of Yater, 6 km (4 miles) north of the border at 10 p.m. (1900 GMT).

The statement said the missile was called a "Waad."


GravatarDoc--still taller than I am!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Sallyh,

One of my best friends - I hate to say this because I love her dearly - is 4'11" and weighs 250 pounds. She cannot lose weight to save her soul. In high school, she was a lilting one o five and was a finalist in the state gymnastics championship back in the 70s.


GravatarWhen you get older, your metabolism changes
Terry C, Outright Partisan


Yup


GravatarSo when you deconstruct literature, you literally take the book apart, do you? Pages, spine, glue, everything?

Only the author's intent matters. That is why authors must be killed.


GravatarAs soon as both parties have shot their Waad.

Yeah, all that release of sexual tension should do the trick.

Make love, not war.


GravatarAnyone read any good books lately - book reviews being such great troll repellent.

I'm reading No Country For Old Men by Cormac McCarthy. Typically bleak, but beautifully written.


GravatarShame the troll's learned and wise grandmother didn't advise its mother to have an abortion.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 6:36 pm |


Hey did you know that Margaret Sanger was a personal hero to Adolph Hitler. In fact, he based his Final Solution on her writings on eugenics.

See what I mean by the left and Fascism?


GravatarWhen you get older, your metabolism changes

I'm still waaaaaaiting...


Gravatarseems like the IDF has decided they are serious about trying to save face, cuz nobody likes a loser.

good luck with that, dan halutz.


GravatarOnly the author's intent matters. That is why authors must be killed.

When's your book gonna be finished?


GravatarThe last fiction I read was A.M. Homes' This Book Will Save Your Life. I liked it. A big improvement over her previous two.


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GravatarBlackberry crisp out of oven. Ice cream and rum whipped cream available for topping.


Gravatar Caught on camera: police chief gets up to speed as a Druid

As the chief constable of North Wales Police, he is also unofficially known as the "godfather of the speed camera" and the head of the "traffic Taliban".

As of yesterday, Richard Brunstrom will also be known by the bardic name of "spider" after he became a druid at the National Eisteddfod of Wales in Swansea. "Spider" translates into Welsh as Prif Copyn and is a pun on the Welsh phrase for chief constable (prif gwnstabl).

Mr Brunstrom was among 21 initiates, including members of parliament, to the Gorsedd of Bards in a rainswept ceremony in the Eisteddfod field yesterday.


GravatarWhen you get older, your metabolism changes
Terry C, Outright Partisan

Yup
Gummo


I no longer have metabolism. I have only "Awake," "Asleep," and "Insufficiently Caffeinated."


GravatarTime magazine includes Never Let Me Go in its list of 100 best books. I don't know if I would go that far, but it is pretty damn good. Ishiguro manages to create quite a mood of dread and despair and never lets go. Quite gripping. He also wrote Remains of the Day.


GravatarTime magazine includes Never Let Me Go in its list of 100 best books. I don't know if I would go that far, but it is pretty damn good. Ishiguro manages to create quite a mood of dread and despair and never lets go. Quite gripping. He also wrote Remains of the Day.


GravatarWhen you get older, your metabolism changes
Terry C, Outright Partisan

MY METABOLSIM IS SOS LOW IM DAMN NEAR TO BEING A SNAKE


GravatarI'm about half into Fiasco and have just about decided to skip the rest. Too fucking depressing

I almost bought it at the bookstore last week. Couldn't face it.
Bought FUBAR instead.


GravatarDrop City by TC Boyle kept me amused at the beach.


GravatarWhen you get older, your metabolism changes
Terry C, Outright Partisan


And gravity hits.


GravatarHey did you know that Margaret Sanger was a personal hero to Adolph Hitler. In fact, he based his Final Solution on her writings on eugenics.



And the misogynists on the right never stop telling that story.

Even though it's bullshit!


GravatarOnly the author's intent matters. That is why authors must be killed.
Thers


See, I just can't keep up with literary theory. I thought the author's intent DIDN'T matter anymore and THAT's why authors must be killed.

I'm so out of date.


GravatarIt's 1969 OK
Mazel Tov 'cross the USA...
Thers


Wonders, they remain unceasing.

I was just leestening to Señor Pop.

Or, as he was known then, Señor Stooge.

so.


GravatarI miss seeing the guy around. And thanks for the word on Trout and friends.


Yeah, so do I. Every now and again when I'm a bit drunk and posting, I'll start howling for him on a late night thread. Alas, he rarely shows - though he did last Saturday night for a bit. Late.


GravatarHey did you know that Margaret Sanger was a personal hero to Adolph Hitler. In fact, he based his Final Solution on her writings on eugenics.

Did you know that Adolf Hitler wanted to prevent abortion only for Good Germans, and force abortion and sterilization on "undesireables"? Turns out, we're against that in today's modern left, Dipshitz Haderach.


GravatarI'm reading No Country For Old Men by Cormac McCarthy. Typically bleak, but beautifully written.
Buzz Bomb


Had a couple of minor flaws, but I loved it anyway.

Soon as I separated the words from the text, anyway. And then killed the author.


GravatarOne of my best friends - I hate to say this because I love her dearly - is 4'11" and weighs 250 pounds.

Wow. Maybe there's a medical reason for this?


GravatarThe last fiction I read was A.M. Homes' This Book Will Save Your Life. I liked it. A big improvement over her previous two.

Her readership dropped a LOT after she published "This Book Will Kill You".


GravatarGoddam it. When I started hearing the number of still at large plotters swing back and forth I just knew we'd managed to help fuck this up somehow.

Now NBC's Lisa Myers reports we insisted on rolling up the investigation now while the Brits wanted to wait at very least another week.

More than anything I hate the way this administration toys with national security and leaves us unable to trust our government about anything . . .


GravatarOn average, it's about 10% fewer calories per decade to maintain your weight without gaining. And if you add to that those you're probably not using up in exercise (and you know who you are), that's the story...

(pats his belly and annds more butterscotch sauce)


GravatarWell, I'm gonna take a walk to get my bearings. Lemme know if dipshit ever admits he was wrong about the Kwisatz Haderach.


GravatarWhen you get older, your metabolism changes

Once upon a time, I weighed 90 lbs...needless to say, those days are gone forever.


GravatarAnother day in the forgotten war

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Police found a dozen bodies trapped in a grate in the Tigris River, and a roadside bomb killed two U.S. soldiers on a foot patrol south of Baghdad Saturday as nearly 50 violent deaths were reported across Iraq.

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The 12 bodies were found in Suwayrah, 25 miles south of Baghdad, at one of a series of metal grates fixed in the river to block debris, Mamoun al-Rubaie of the Kut city morgue said.

All were men between 35 and 45 years old and had been bound, blindfolded and shot in the head or chest, al-Rubaie said. They appeared to have been the victims of sectarian death squads that operate in the religiously mixed communities in the Baghdad area.


Gravatar"See, I just can't keep up with literary theory. I thought the author's intent DIDN'T matter anymore and THAT's why authors must be killed."

Well, the destination's the same, regardless of the street you take to get there.

Them book-leanin folk is good eatin'.


GravatarHey did you know that Margaret Sanger was a personal hero to Adolph Hitler. In fact, he based his Final Solution on her writings on eugenics.

See what I mean by the left and Fascism?
dipshit


I have been reading this in pro-life propaganda pamphlets for over 25 years.

Yawn.


GravatarOf course in real life Gary Cooper was a racist rightwing nut who couldn't wait to play the lead in a movie version of some of Ayn Rand's pulp fiction.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in


And Pitt and Jolie are rumored to want to do "Atlas Shrugged". What does that make them in your opinion?

On CooperAdmired Hitler a bit too much for my liking.
Terry C, Outright Partisan

Where did you get that? He didn't name names at HUAC and yes was a Repub. Please provide a link. I've never heard that accusation before.


GravatarThe last nonfiction book I read was Stephen Sears' Gettysburg, back in July. I loved his treatment of Antietam, Landscape turned red.

I'm a mysteryholic, so most of what i read is fiction.


GravatarI have only "Awake," "Asleep," and "Insufficiently Caffeinated."
Rmj, Street Credentialed


What's the difference between asleep and insufficiently caffeinated? One's horizontal and the other vertical?


GravatarIshiguro manages to create quite a mood of dread and despair and never lets go.

Ugh. I can't stand to read anything depressing any more. Been reading a lot of good old English mysteries and have been quite happy to do so.


GravatarSee what I mean by the left and Fascism?
dipshit


==

When she said that, was she wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross?


GravatarIf you want poetry, try Eliot's futuristic epic, Four Quatloos.


GravatarRMJ--you forgot to add 'insufficiently intoxicated.'


GravatarI would LOVE a small bowl of blackberry crisp, hold the whipped cream. yummmmy!


GravatarAnd gravity hits.
Diane


Gravity tits?

Yeah, that about covers it......


Gravatarmy Grandpa's 90th birthday is next year, so that is going to be a big celebration.


GravatarWow. Maybe there's a medical reason for this?
pie


Well, she doesn't like vegetables, and she eats a lot of breads and other starches.

Has beautiful tomatoes, peppers, etc. growing in her garden, but she doesn't like them, so she gives them to me.


Gravatar- Knock-knock.
Lieberman (sulking in his room): Who's there?
- Gerstein.
- Gerstein who?
- Gerstein with enthusiasm.


GravatarSomeone said today that the new nonfiction about Ben Franklin in France is quite good. Title???


GravatarI was just leestening to Señor Pop.

Or, as he was known then, Señor Stooge.

so.
¡El Gato Negro!


Only saw Iggy twice, once in the 70s, once in the 80s.

I remember when The Idiot came out, excitedly calling my best friend 3,000 miles away and exclaiming, Have you ever heard anything like it!


Gravatarsallyh: me! me!


GravatarI've been reading Pratchett all summer. Discworld is looking mighty sensible these days.

"Soul Music," now in paperback, is very good, laugh out loud funny. As are all Pratchetts.


GravatarAnd Pitt and Jolie are rumored to want to do "Atlas Shrugged". What does that make them in your opinion?

Unwise?


GravatarWhat's the difference between asleep and insufficiently caffeinated? One's horizontal and the other vertical?
flory


"Awake" is a slight stage between the other two. Sort of like "twilight," which last far longer than "dawn," for reasons no one can explain.


GravatarNow NBC's Lisa Myers reports we insisted on rolling up the investigation now while the Brits wanted to wait at very least another week.

Saw that. I'm sure politics had nothing to do with it. Nothing.


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Gravatarnon-fiction wise I am re-reading John Julius Norwich's A Short History of Byzantium


Gravatar(Hands ProfWombat a large bowl of cobbler with ice cream on top).


GravatarWhile they were quietly sitting on this plot, what were they doing to keep us safe?

And why did they have to rush to develop a plan if they knew about this for a week?


GravatarWhile they were quietly sitting on this plot, what were they doing to keep us safe?

And why did they have to rush to develop a plan if they knew about this for a week?


GravatarWell, she doesn't like vegetables

Then she's never had them prepared well. It is one of the food groups.


GravatarI thought Pitt and Jolie broke up? Not that I fucking give one rat's ass about celebrities.


GravatarIf you want poetry, try Eliot's futuristic epic, Four Quatloos.
Thers


I always liked The Wasteland of Ceti Alpha Five.


Gravatar"Suite Francaise", by Irene Nemirovsky, is getting glowing reviews.

Anbody read that yet?


GravatarMore than anything I hate the way this administration toys with national security and leaves us unable to trust our government about anything . . .
cs, art is bread


Look on the bright side. Two years ago nobody would be reporting on this except a few bloggers who read about it in the Guardian.


GravatarAnd Pitt and Jolie are rumored to want to do "Atlas Shrugged". What does that make them in your opinion?

Not very smart. Making a movie version of any Ayn Rand book is notoriously difficult. That is why so few have been made. Look at "The Fountainhead". Horrible movie adaptation.


GravatarMrs. Ibrahim--here's one for you, and one for Ibrahim, and some ice cream for Maxine Bodine.


GravatarThen she's never had them prepared well. It is one of the food groups.




GravatarNow NBC's Lisa Myers reports we insisted on rolling up the investigation now while the Brits wanted to wait at very least another week.

Oh, si, I could have won many dolares betting on that very theeng happening.

so.


GravatarIT IS UNDENYABLE THAT NAZI GERMANY WAS FAR TO THE LEFT OF SOVITE RUSSIA - LOOK AT A FRIGGIN MAP FROM 1492 FOR CHRISSAKES


Gravatar- Knock-knock.
Lieberman (sulking in his room): Who's there?
- Idiots at TNR.
- Idiots at TNR who?
- Idiots at TNRmen Square who rioted in 1989.


GravatarSee what I mean by the left and Fascism?

Define left.

Define facism.


GravatarAlas, he rarely shows - though he did last Saturday night for a bit. Late.

I might have to check in later.......

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GravatarWhile they were quietly sitting on this plot, what were they doing to keep us safe?

Excitedly figuring out how to spin it for maximum political advantage going into election season.


GravatarAnd Pitt and Jolie are rumored to want to do "Atlas Shrugged". What does that make them in your opinion?

Adolescent. Or the subject of an unfounded rumor...


GravatarAw, Merkin Patriot's with us! How sweet is that?


GravatarAnd Pitt and Jolie are rumored to want to do "Atlas Shrugged". What does that make them in your opinion?

Adolescent. Or the subject of an unfounded rumor...
ProfWombat


As uninteresting as they were before?


GravatarWhen she said that, was she wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross?
Wotan, His Glory Holiness


Well, see - rightards think Margaret Sanger was bad.

Cuz she was one of them thar uppity wimmen who didn't think other wimmen should be pregnant every year.


GravatarHorrible movie adaptation.

Was that Newman and Woodward?


GravatarDefine left.

Anyone who disagrees with President Bush. Period.


GravatarSome douchebag on CBS just stated with a smarmy look on his face that converts to Islam are future terrorists. This guy was a psychiatrist for God's sake! Make the generalizations often, Dr. Douche?


Gravatarthanks sallyh,

maxine bodine just had her afternoon walk and nown siesta,tucked away in the bedroom, knowing it is b-a-t-h day.


GravatarSanger was a personal hero to Adolph Hitler. In fact, he based his Final Solution on her writings on eugenics.

And the misogynists on the right never stop telling that story.

Even though it's bullshit!
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 6:40 pm |


Really? Why don't you google Hitler and Sanger together.....and stand back and watch what happens.


GravatarLOOK AT A FRIGGIN MAP FROM 1492 FOR CHRISSAKES



Favorite graffiti I ever saw was in the Girls' bathroom at the now defunct Tip Top Bar in Marquette:

The world is flat.
-Isabella, 1491


GravatarATLAS SHRUGGED WAS A GREAT BOOK - IM LOOKING FORWORD TO TEH SEQUAL - ANBODY KNOW WHEN ANY RANT GOING TO PUT IT OUT?


GravatarLook at "The Fountainhead". Horrible movie adaptation.
Monica_A:Snake Killa Extraordi



Sucked out loud!


GravatarEl Gato Negro--weell medium rrrrrrrare be all rrright for that steak?


GravatarSome douchebag on CBS just stated with a smarmy look on his face that converts to Islam are future terrorists. This guy was a psychiatrist for God's sake! Make the generalizations often, Dr. Douche?
Monica_A:Snake Killa Extraordi


Well, it's CBS.

The network of Murrow. Cronkite. Rather.

Couric.

I rest my case.


Gravatar- Knock-knock.
Lieberman (sulking in his room): Who's there?
- The Bullshit Moose.
- The Bullshit Moose who?
- The Bullshit Moose get even more outrageous if you want to win in November.


GravatarLOOK AT A FRIGGIN MAP FROM 1492 FOR CHRISSAKES

There were big dragons and snakes and a big drop-off on either end, if I remember correctly.


GravatarWhen she said that, was she wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross?
Wotan, His Glory Holiness


Well, see - rightards think Margaret Sanger was bad.

Cuz she was one of them thar uppity wimmen who didn't think other wimmen should be pregnant every year.
Terry C, Outright Partisan


==

Dirty apes!


Gravatardipshit, I'll be glad in another month when you'll be back suffering through another boring high school algebra class and unable to fling your own feces around here...


GravatarMY FIANCY IS OUT LOOKING AT BRIDLE DRESSES WITH HER GIRLFRENDS


GravatarDefine left.

Anyone who disagrees with President Bush. Period.
Buzz Bomb


No. Those are traitors.

The "left" is anyone who disagrees with Holy Joe.


GravatarSucked out loud!
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 6:49 pm | #

Having Gary Cooper (who was past his prime) in the lead was not a good idea. I don't think Brando could have pulled off that script. It was a horrible movie.


GravatarDefine facism.

Anymore it means what the right wants it to mean.

Oh, and lefty bloggers. The worst fascists of all. We're worse than Hitler! Joe says so.


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GravatarYER MARRYING A FILLY?


GravatarAll right, I've gotten up and gone "outside."

What's supposed to be so all-fired great about this "outside" place, anyway?


GravatarDirty apes!
Wotan, His Glory Holiness | 08.12.06 - 6:50 pm | #


And we're back on topic!

The circle of blogging.


GravatarWhy don't you google Hitler and Sanger together

Sanger was Eva Braun?

Who knew?


Gravatarevening, gang. tonight's question: dancing, or china meiville's "the scar."

pitt and jolie in a rand movie? how much do i want to barf.


GravatarNO SHES FROM NEW YORK


GravatarThere were big dragons and snakes and a big drop-off on either end, if I remember correctly.

And Jesus had a dinosaur named Dino. Don't forget that important fact.


GravatarWhat's supposed to be so all-fired great about this "outside" place, anyway?
Thers


The energy supply is free.


GravatarBuzz Bomb--please, whatever you do, don't send him to any of my classes!


GravatarNO SHES FROM NEW YORK




GravatarVisions of Lieberman's and Pombo's heads on pikes.


GravatarWhat's supposed to be so all-fired great about this "outside" place, anyway?

Hey, you live on Liberal Mountain, where the air is crisp, clean, and cold.

Breath.


Gravatarchi dyke ~

Dancing and sugar tits, baby!


GravatarNashoby Winery, which makes good fruit wine near us, has this seriously delicious dessert blackberry wine. Fills your mouth with it; a little goes a long way. Sits next to a glass of espresso very well.

They let you pick fruit, too. We go there and get enough for a pie come the odd Sunday, then have a nutritious and balanced meal of all the pie we can eat, hot out of the oven, same day we picked the fruit...


GravatarMY FIANCY IS OUT LOOKING AT BRIDLE DRESSES WITH HER GIRLFRENDS

Kinky!


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GravatarMargaret Sanger thought women should have control of their reproductive systems.

The right doesn't like that.


GravatarBuzz Bomb--please, whatever you do, don't send him to any of my classes!

How is he gonna get any edumacation?


GravatarBuzz Bomb--please, whatever you do, don't send him to any of my classes!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


If it were up to me, he'd be on Double Secret Probation!


GravatarMY FIANCY IS OUT LOOKING AT BRIDLE DRESSES WITH HER GIRLFRENDS

And a ring for yer nose.

hee hee.


GravatarWhat's supposed to be so all-fired great about this "outside" place, anyway?
Thers


And a small cabin you can build there, of clay and wattles made.

Nine bean rows you can have there, and a hive for the honey-bee.


GravatarWhat's supposed to be so all-fired great about this "outside" place, anyway?
Thers


All 236 ragged children are "inside"?

How's the flu?


Gravatardipshit, I'll be glad in another month when you'll be back suffering through another boring high school algebra class and unable to fling your own feces around here...

you and Auggy both. good study partners are hard to find.


GravatarAs far as I know there has been no democrat that has screwed the democrat party so much since the days of the southern rat bags as has our friend Leiberman. Zell Miller was such a fool he had little effect.

As far as I know there are not any better examples of democrats needing a couple of pills than Kerrey and Leiberman.Aren't they going to look cute holding hands with Red Rover.


GravatarI took some pictures of my feets today for AttaEffingTurk ~ but how the hell does one take a good photo of one's feet?

It seems like the angle is off a bit...


GravatarGoogle Hitler and Henry Ford.


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GravatarGummo:
Thanks for noticing. It's the self-hating Unitarian in me.


GravatarSucked out loud!
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 6:49 pm | #

Having Gary Cooper (who was past his prime) in the lead was not a good idea. I don't think Brando could have pulled off that script. It was a horrible movie.
Monica_A:Snake Killa Extraordi


Beyond awful.


GravatarCD:
Dancing.


GravatarI remember when The Idiot came out, excitedly calling my best friend 3,000 miles away and exclaiming, Have you ever heard anything like it!

I like Dostoyevsky too -- but man, I gotta say, you look darn good for your age...


Gravatarblogwhoring

Seend Fête

My Grandpa's 89th Birthday Party



GravatarThe last book I read was Eco's Baudolino. I want to get his latest about the old fellow who gets amnesia and tries to re-create his life by going through all his stuff.


GravatarGoogle Hitler and Henry Ford.

What about Hitler and Prescott Bush?


GravatarIt's the self-hating Unitarian in me.

Unitarian guilt. Heh.


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GravatarGoogle Hitler and Henry Ford.


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spork_incident


Google Hitler and Prescott Bush.


GravatarGrandpa looks pretty damned good for 89!


GravatarProfWombat | 08.12.06 - 6:52 pm | #

Sounds like a wonderful place. Be brazen, ask them about doing a fund-raiser for a worthy candidate in your area


GravatarI love Dostoyevsky...I know, I know...he's difficult to read...


GravatarMY FIANCY IS OUT LOOKING AT BRIDLE DRESSES WITH HER GIRLFRENDS
Merkin Patriot


merkin- you and your girl do pony? that's impressive. i hope you look good in chaps.

titter. i just learned the actual definition of a "merkin." do you folks know? it's naughtier than you may think.


GravatarVicki -- I discovered the best way is to put the foot in front of a mirror and take a picture of the reflection.


GravatarCuz she was one of them thar uppity wimmen who didn't think other wimmen should be pregnant every year.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 6:48 pm |


Not exactly. She just thought that "darkies" (her word) and other defectives should not be allowed to reproduce. In fact, she called for mass foced sterilization.

Fascism? Yeah, i think so.


Gravatarfervor


Gravatardipshit - start here and go here for starters.


GravatarThe last book I read was Eco's Baudolino. I want to get his latest about the old fellow who gets amnesia and tries to re-create his life by going through all his stuff.
Warren Terra


It was disappointing. More narrative thread than story, and too many of the cultural references were so specifically Italian they had no resonance.

And then the ending just sort of petered out.

I was looking forward to it, too.


GravatarNot exactly. She just thought that "darkies" (her word) and other defectives should not be allowed to reproduce.

Don't forget the micks and krauts!


GravatarI want to get his latest about the old fellow who gets amnesia and tries to re-create his life by going through all his stuff.

"The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana." It's mind-blowing. In a strage way.

I liked it. Baudolino was a disappointment.


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GravatarReally? Why don't you google Hitler and Sanger together.....and stand back and watch what happens.
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 6:48 pm | #


You find a bunch of anti-abortion propoganda?


GravatarReally? Why don't you google Hitler and Sanger together.....and stand back and watch what happens.
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 6:48 pm | #


You find a bunch of anti-abortion propoganda?


GravatarMoon,

Those pics are so lovely they made me cry. Your grandpa is a fine looking chap of 89 years! And gran looks like a sweetie. The fruit salad and the Pavalova...yummy!

Happy Birthday, Grandpa Moon!


GravatarChavez to pay Castro a birthday visit

HAVANA (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said he would fly to Havana to share birthday cake with Fidel Castro, who was reported on Saturday to be walking, talking and working a bit in the clearest signs yet the ailing Cuban leader was recovering.

Chavez, Castro's close leftist ally, said he would give the bearded revolutionary a dagger and a cup carried by 19th century liberation hero Simon Bolivar as gifts for his 80th birthday on Sunday.

"Since I already drank coffee from the cup, tomorrow I will take it to Fidel Castro as a present. Fidel, now you know, there will be no surprise tomorrow, this is your present," the chatty Chavez said in a Caracas press conference.

Castro has not been seen publicly since he temporarily ceded power to his younger brother on July 31 because of surgery for internal bleeding.


GravatarAs far as I know there has been no democrat that has screwed the democrat party so much since the days of the southern rat bags as has our friend Leiberman. Zell Miller was such a fool he had little effect.

At least Zell was honest about what he was. Witness his full-blown fascist rant at the GOP convention. There was no question he had abandoned the Democrats. But Joe and his support structure are still trying to claim that they are the very heart and soul of the Democratic Party.


Gravatardamn tags.


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Gravatar
And a small cabin you can build there, of clay and wattles made.


Clay and waffles!? Who could eat that, much less make a house out of it?


Gravatarthank you Vicki and Monica_A


Gravatartitter. i just learned the actual definition of a "merkin." do you folks know? it's naughtier than you may think.


Do tell, or shall I go look it up at urban language dot com or something?!


GravatarHelloscan, whyfor you get so freaked by "'" in the name field? Fie on you!


GravatarYour grandfather looks great, but look at those desserts!!!

Yum.


Gravatarflory, I'll try that! Thanks!


GravatarClay and waffles!? Who could eat that, much less make a house out of it?
Thers


That's what the honey is for!


GravatarShe just thought that "darkies" (her word) and other defectives should not be allowed to reproduce. In fact, she called for mass foced sterilization.

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I'm thinkin' that makes you and your arse-ociates leftists?


Gravatari just learned the actual definition of a "merkin." do you folks know? it's naughtier than you may think.

Yeah, I know. It was explained to me by my brother-in-law who tried to "Epi-Lady" me in IKEA today. Sick, sick bastard!


GravatarNot exactly. She just thought that "darkies" (her word) and other defectives should not be allowed to reproduce. In fact, she called for mass foced sterilization.

Fascism? Yeah, i think so.
dipshit


The classic right-wing technique of accusing your opponents of doing exactly what you do. Karl Rove's still using it today.


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titter. i just learned the actual definition of a "merkin." do you folks know? it's naughtier than you may think.


cd, isn't that a toupe for your coochy?


GravatarFascism? Yeah, i think so. -dipshit

Whether you know what you're saying is untrue and you're a liar, or you don't know or care that it's not and you're just another tool, you express yourself poorly, and that reflects badly on all of wingnuttia.


Gravatarpie yeah we wondered whether we would fit it all in heh


GravatarMargaret Sanger thought women should have control of their reproductive systems.

The right doesn't like that.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.12.06 - 6:53 pm


Forced steriization is having control of one's own reproductive system?

Egad. You're stupid.


GravatarRMJ: you could always reread 'The Name of the Rose' or 'Foucault's Pendulum'. Been meaning to go back to both; bet I missed some things first time around...


GravatarReally? Why don't you google Hitler and Sanger together.....and stand back and watch what happens.

One thing you will find is Sanger's condemnation of Hitler's misreading of her writings.

Off to frighten the tourists.


Gravatar i just learned the actual definition of a "merkin." do you folks know? it's naughtier than you may think.

Oh, yes. See also: President Merkin Muffley in Dr. Strangelove.


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Yeah, I know. It was explained to me by my brother-in-law who tried to "Epi-Lady" me in IKEA today. Sick, sick bastard!


Shaved pussy, or pussy with a soul patch? Now I'm really intrigued...


GravatarBaudolino was a disappointment.


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spork_incident


I liked Baudolino.

How myths and stories take on their own independent reality, even for the mythmakers and storytellers.


GravatarA merkin is a wig for your cootchie.


GravatarAnd a small cabin you can build there, of clay and wattles made. Rmj, Street Credentialed

Wattles.... who gets to skin Lieberman and Hastert? Is it considered and honor?


GravatarRMJ: you could always reread 'The Name of the Rose' or 'Foucault's Pendulum'. Been meaning to go back to both; bet I missed some things first time around...
ProfWombat


When I finish Proust.

That's become a moral obligation. Although I am enjoying it.


GravatarA merkin is a wig for your cootchie.


Why wouldya? Seems like too much trouble.


GravatarI kind of liked Baudolino, maybe because I knew nothing about the Fourth Crusade. BTW, is there a good movie about the Crusades? I thought Kingdom of Heaven had a few moments, but my biggest impression was how good-looking Orlando Bloom was. And no, I'm not gay.


Gravatarhe classic right-wing technique of accusing your opponents of doing exactly what you do. Karl Rove's still using it today.
Buzz Bomb | 08.12.06 - 7:00 pm |


What are you talking about? Seriously..what?


GravatarRMJ: Russell Baker once a year or so used to talk about tackling Proust again, newly equipped with provisions and Sherpas...


GravatarA merkin is a wig for your cootchie.
HoneyBearKelly


Now it's starting to click. I wonder if MERKIN PATRIOT is a Whig?


GravatarI am so tired from being outside that running around after the nefarious Rosie would be easy as pie.


GravatarIt was explained to me by my brother-in-law who tried to "Epi-Lady" me in IKEA today

Those Swedes would have been nonplussed!


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GravatarVicki,

I think he was trying to remove my body hair with a coffee bean grinder. Don't ask me; I really try to avoid conversation with him. He then went after my husband. Sometimes it's like dealing with a frat-boy.


Gravatarah yes the Fourth Crusade which saw the sacking of the Christian city of Constaniople by Christian soldiers backed by the Venetian Republic.

thereafter a venal Latin Empire was established.


Gravatarcrap. just got the call from an on-again off-again gf, needs a ride to the airport. at 8 tomorrow. a.m.

so i guess dancing is out. oh well, meiville is the bomb.

lambert reaches joe's voicemail.


GravatarI think he was trying to remove my body hair with a coffee bean grinder.



Lord...I thought an Epi-Lady was one of those hair removers.

I have little to no body hair, so shaving anything really isn't an issue for me.


GravatarIf I remember correctly merkins were used in the Victorian age when ladies of a certain, you know, profession had a disease they wanted to cover up.


GravatarWhen I finish Proust.

Competing in the All-England Summarize Proust Competition are you?


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GravatarIt's terrible to tell a 33 year-old to cut it out or your taking him straight home. I don't say that crap to my 13 year-old anymore.


GravatarApparently, merkins aren't really that sexy.

Wikipedia: A merkin (first use, according to the OED, 1617) is reported to be a pubic wig, worn by prostitutes after shaving their genitalia to eliminate lice or to disguise the marks of syphilis.


GravatarIf I remember correctly merkins were used in the Victorian age when ladies of a certain, you know, profession had a disease they wanted to cover up.


Oh, like a bandaid for herpes...


GravatarIf I remember correctly merkins were used in the Victorian age when ladies of a certain, you know, profession had a disease they wanted to cover up.


Oh, like a bandaid for herpes...


GravatarI've been debating Baudolino for awhile now.
And the reviews here are mixed, so you guys are no help.


GravatarHow did you people make it through grade school without learning about merkins? They were all the rage back when it was prudent to shave down to avoid cooties. Low riders drop another inch and they'll be back in style.


GravatarLord...I thought an Epi-Lady was one of those hair removers.

It was. BIL try to achieve the same results with a coffee bean grinder.


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Forced steriization is having control of one's own reproductive system?


and your evidence to prove your assertion is what, exactly. now we all know you are a dipshit, but Sanger's quote, or evidence supporting her support for forced mass sterilizations, would be where, exactly? get googling, monkey boy, or else you are, as usual, full of shit.

and no, I don't mean Sangers support for eugenics, I mean an explicit call for "forced mass sterilizations"


GravatarI kind of liked Baudolino, maybe because I knew nothing about the Fourth Crusade. BTW, is there a good movie about the Crusades? I thought Kingdom of Heaven had a few moments, but my biggest impression was how good-looking Orlando Bloom was. And no, I'm not gay.
Warren Terra | 08.12.06 - 7:02 pm | #


Kingdom of Heaven was complete and total disaster. Narratively unfocused, historically innacurrate, and thematically confused.


GravatarI wonder if MERKIN PATRIOT is a Whig?

Boooooooo but


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GravatarI rather enjoyed Kingdom of Heaven.


GravatarShaved pussy, or pussy with a soul patch? Now I'm really intrigued...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


A merkin (first use, according to the OED, 1617) is reported to be a pubic wig, worn by prostitutes after shaving their genitalia to eliminate lice or to disguise the marks of syphilis.


GravatarDon't know about summarizing Proust, but I recall this summary of 'Ode on a Grecian Urn':

Gods chase
Round vase.
What say?
What play?
Don't know.
Nice, though.


GravatarWhat are you talking about? Seriously..what?
dipshit


Google "Swiftboating."

But that's just one example. And you know exactly what I'm talking about anyway.


GravatarI've been debating Baudolino for awhile now.
And the reviews here are mixed, so you guys are no help.


I'd recommend it anyway. But I'm a bit of an Eco nut.


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GravatarA merkin (first use, according to the OED, 1617) is reported to be a pubic wig, worn by prostitutes after shaving their genitalia to eliminate lice or to disguise the marks of syphilis.

That's a special kind of nasty when you have lice in your pubic hair.


GravatarThey should make a movie about the Albegensian crusade. Pope Innocent III was about as close an archetype to Bush as I can think of.


GravatarI thought Kingdom of Heaven had a few moments, but my biggest impression was how good-looking Orlando Bloom was. And no, I'm not gay.
Warren Terra


Not that there's anything wrong with that.


GravatarIsraeli-Palestinian Peace Blog Aggregator


Gravatarspork -- I really liked both Name of the Rose and Foucaults Pendulum, so mebbe I'll have to give it a try.


GravatarMerkin" is also used to refer to a male sex-toy in the humorous novels of Tom Sharpe. Both the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary and The Joy of Sex define the Merkin as an "artifical vagina".

"Merkin" has also been used as a slang term for an American since the 1960s. (Although it is usually pronounced as "murrakin.") The OED reports that the term has become common internet slang for Americans or American English (it is regularly used, for example, on the newsgroup alt.fan.pratchett, and has spread from there to some other Discworld fan groups). "Murrikan" has been spelled many ways, many of which are homonyms and only coincidentally sound like merkin, for example "murcan" or "murkan". "Merrikan" is the English-descended language featured in Katherine Kerr's science fiction novels.

In gay slang, a merkin means the "official" male companion of a closeted female homosexual used to help allay suspicion that she is a lesbian (i.e., the male equivalent of a beard).


GravatarIf I remember correctly merkins were used in the Victorian age when ladies of a certain, you know, profession had a disease they wanted to cover up.


Oh, like a bandaid for herpes...
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore


Not herpes, but syphilis. Which is on the upswing again, supposedly. I think it may have infected the brains of some of our trolls.


GravatarJAPANESE WOMEN WAER THEM BECAUSE THERE NOT AS HAIRSUIT DOWN THERE AS THE WETSERN WOMEN - HELL EVER SEEN THE DEEP SOUTH ON A GERMAN LADDY???? BLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPT


GravatarThat's a special kind of nasty when you have lice in your pubic hair.
Monica_A:Snake Killa Extraordi


Dirty hippies!


GravatarMy favorite piece of fiction is from Foucault's Pendulum, one of those stories that Belbo wrote about "Seven Seas Jim". Not to mention Abulafia's poetry.


Gravatarso i wasn't around all day, what does everyone think of israel's big push with a trebling of ground forces etc into lebanon?

or have we reached the sci-fi movie/flirting only phase of tonight's blogging?


GravatarI'm with you Buzz Bomb.


GravatarHELL EVER SEEN THE DEEP SOUTH ON A GERMAN LADDY???? BLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPT
Merkin Patriot




Somebody ought to get Tom Delay on the case.


GravatarI'm laughing too hard at Merkin's post to come up with anything clever to say. It's funny because it's true.


GravatarKaren Hughes starts every morning with a hearty breakfast of merkin and eggs.


GravatarI really liked both Name of the Rose and Foucaults Pendulum, so mebbe I'll have to give it a try.

I've read Foucault's Pendulum maybe six times. Really. I'd also recommend The Island of the Day Before.


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GravatarI really liked both Name of the Rose and Foucaults Pendulum, so mebbe I'll have to give it a try.

I've read Foucault's Pendulum maybe six times. Really. I'd also recommend The Island of the Day Before.


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GravatarHELL EVER SEEN THE DEEP SOUTH ON A GERMAN LADDY???? BLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPT
Merkin Patriot | 08.12.06 - 7:10 pm | #




GravatarSomebody ought to get Tom Delay on the case.

I think Hot Tub Tommy can tell us a lot about this subject.


GravatarNight all.


GravatarThat's a special kind of nasty when you have lice in your pubic hair.
Monica_A:Snake Killa Extraordi

Dirty hippies!
Buzz Bomb


==

And there we are.


GravatarI absouletly love A Short History of Byzantium by John Julius Norwich


GravatarLice all over the body was pretty common.

Europeans really didn't believe in bathing much and wore their clothes until they fell off their bodies.


GravatarAnd there we are.
Wotan, His Glory Holiness


Be the perfect spot for a new thread, wouldn't it?


GravatarThat's a special kind of nasty when you have lice in your pubic hair. - Monica_A:Snake Killa Extraordi

Lore of the USN & USCG

Bo'sunmate's (holders of this rank noted for their intellectual prower prowress and macho 'tude) cure for the crabs.

Scrape half the affected area with a rusty paint scraper. Apply kersone to the unshaved area. Ignite. Stab the fire-stampeded lice to death with a fid.


GravatarI think Hot Tub Tommy can tell us a lot about this subject.
Monica_A


Beavers are great at clearing forests.

And who among us does not like shaved beaver?


GravatarMore inconvenient facts about Sanger for trollie. Apparently, li'l brownshirts like him have been distorting her positions pretty much since the words left her mouth. Here's something she *actually* wrote:

Eugenists imply or insist that a woman's first duty is to the state; we contend that her duty to herself is her first duty to the state. We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that it is her right, regardless of all other considerations, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother.

Shocking! Truly the work of a fascist mind!


GravatarAnd who among us does not like shaved beaver?


As an environmentalist, I espouse the following theory:

Save a tree! Eat a beaver!


GravatarJeffCo --

Trolls & neocons never let facts get in the way of "the truth."


GravatarLebanon 'peace deal'.


GravatarBLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPT

OMG.


Gravatar
Shocking! Truly the work of a fascist mind!
JeffCO


Oddly enough, she and Peggy Goldwater agreed on the matter - and Peggy brought along her husband. A woman to control her own body? Outrageous! What would a neocon think?


Gravatarmy biggest impression was how good-looking Orlando Bloom was. And no, I'm not gay.
Warren Terra


Daniel Day-Lewis is hotter, in my own heterosexual opinion.


Gravatarflame away, but eco: not that great. his take on the ladies leaves something to be desired.

They should make a movie about the Albegensian crusade. Pope Innocent III was about as close an archetype to Bush as I can think of.
Warren Terra | 08.12.06 - 7:08 pm | #


how about the children's crusade? now there's a crusade for the ages!


GravatarLice all over the body was pretty common.

Europeans really didn't believe in bathing much
HoneyBearKelly


I believe I remember reading that Queen Elizabeth I bathed only three times in her entire life: once at birth, once for her Coronation, and at death.

Water was associated with the Devil. In fact, I recall reading a fundamentalist tirade at my church growing up, about how Satan thrived near water, which is why port cities were so infested with crime. Astounding.


GravatarHELL EVER SEEN THE DEEP SOUTH ON A GERMAN LADDY???? BLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPT
Merkin Patriot


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Atrios, New thread please. This one's all oogied up. My ex was German and...oh god, oh god, oh...


GravatarShocking! Truly the work of a fascist mind!

dipshit is truly a dipshit.


GravatarFaith-based truth is so much more fun than the dreary reality the rest of us have to live in.


GravatarHELL EVER SEEN THE DEEP SOUTH ON A GERMAN LADDY???? BLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPT

I'm left speechless.


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GravatarAs an environmentalist, I espouse the following theory:

Save a tree! Eat a beaver!
Vicki





I remember reading a great line, to the effect of: "I was going to trim my pubic hair, then I read that it was illegal to deforest a natural wetland."



GravatarSatan thrived near water, which is why port cities were so infested with crime. Astounding.


Christianity is all over the board with regard to water...some churches call themselves Living Water Churches because they believe that the Lord's spirit flows like a river. Baptism is a sign of cleansing and rebirth - washing away Original Sin...all that.


GravatarWater was associated with the Devil. In fact, I recall reading a fundamentalist tirade at my church growing up, about how Satan thrived near water, which is why port cities were so infested with crime.

Then why do fundies dip themselves in water when they're baptized?


GravatarTrolls & neocons never let facts get in the way of "the truth." -Gummo

I know, I just thought it might be a useful resource.


GravatarI was a hippie. i wasn't dirty because I never found that comfortable or attractive, but, truth to tell, I'm still kind of a hippie. And proud of it.


GravatarI'm left speechless.
spork_incident


Hair in your throat? Or has the "cat" got your tongue?


GravatarHELL EVER SEEN THE DEEP SOUTH ON A GERMAN LADDY???? BLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPTHELL EVER SEEN THE DEEP SOUTH ON A GERMAN LADDY???? BLACK FOREST IS NOT A BUNCH OF TREES IN EGYPT




Gravatar"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."

Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.


GravatarSave a tree! Eat a beaver!
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore | 08.12.06 - 7:15 pm | #


so it's flirting then. vicki, what do you think of the movie Barbarella. and how would you like to be in a remake? limited, internet release, of course.


GravatarKarl Rove stunt intended to make Ned Lamont and Democrats look weak on national security. These people are truly sick.

U.S., U.K. at odds over timing of arrests

"LONDON - NBC News has learned that U.S. and British authorities had a significant disagreement over when to move in on the suspects in the alleged plot to bring down trans-Atlantic airliners bound for the United States.

A senior British official knowledgeable about the case said British police were planning to continue to run surveillance for at least another week to try to obtain more evidence, while American officials pressured them to arrest the suspects sooner. The official spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the case.

In contrast to previous reports, the official suggested an attack was not imminent, saying the suspects had not yet purchased any airline tickets. In fact, some did not even have passports."


GravatarThat Black Forest line really takes the cake...


GravatarThen why do fundies dip themselves in water when they're baptized?
pie



There you go again, being consistent and logical.

See, the irony is, if you stopped that shit that would be the end of it.


Gravatar"Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization."

Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review


Gravatar"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."

Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.
dipshit


==

Come back with a point.

Then fall on it.


GravatarApparently dipshit thinks that Oliver Wendell Holmes was a flaming leftist.


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Gravatarvicki, what do you think of the movie Barbarella. and how would you like to be in a remake? limited, internet release, of course.
chicago dyke



*fans self*

Damn this global warming.


Errrr . . . need a cameraman? Sure ya do.


Gravatar i wasn't dirty because I never found that comfortable or attractive, but, truth to tell, I'm still kind of a hippie. And proud of it.


I resemble that remark.

I was hoping you'd show up...is a "3" on the BIRAD scale anything to be worked up about? I'm thinking - hoping - not really, but I don't want to be too nonchalant.


Gravatarso it's flirting then. vicki, what do you think of the movie Barbarella. and how would you like to be in a remake? limited, internet release, of course.

I would like to try out for the part of Pygar. But I could do Duran Duran, if needed.


GravatarThen why do fundies dip themselves in water when they're baptized?

To hide the lice and the syphillis scars?


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Gravatar"The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped."

Margaret Sanger. Speech quoted in Birth Control: What It Is, How It Works, What It Will Do. The Proceedings of the First American Birth Control Conference. Held at the Hotel Plaza, New York City, November 11-12, 1921. Published by the Birth Control Review, Gothic Press, pages 172 and 174.


Gravatardipshit, you're posting one sentence of a book, and you expect people to take your *interpretation* seriously.

You are a dipshit.


GravatarWater was associated with the Devil.

For good reason. Raw sewage was thrown in the local waterway. Water could and did kill.


GravatarBush phones Siniora on UN resolution

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - President George W. Bush told Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora on Saturday that he hopes a new U.N. resolution will dismantle what he called Hizbollah's "state within a state" in southern Lebanon.

The U.N. Security Council unanimously adopted a resolution on Friday calling for a "cessation of hostilities" in the war between Israel and Lebanon's Hizbollah militia that has killed about 1,000 Lebanese and 123 Israelis and displaced more than 1 million people.

White House National Security spokesman Frederick Jones said Bush called Siniora and the two spoke for eight minutes about he resolution "and their common efforts to bring about a cessation of hostilities."


Gravatar"I am . . . a terrorist . . ."

George W. Bush, speech in Cincinnati, 2003.


Gravatarso it's flirting then. vicki, what do you think of the movie Barbarella. and how would you like to be in a remake? limited, internet release, of course.
chicago dyke, catwoman




Don't make me drive over there and lick you, CD!


GravatarQuestions that should be asked tomorrow but won't be:

Of Republicans: "Was pressure placed on the British to make arrests before all the best evidence was gathered?"

Of Joe Lieberman: "Which party will you align yourself with if you are elected?"


GravatarNot Dildano. I don't think I could get into that role.


Gravatar"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976


GravatarApparently dipshit thinks

I agree with your main point; my only cavil is with your choice of verb.

Dipshit's neurohormonal imbalace/deficit prevents him from understanding anything more complex than "ooh guh fuf dah!"


GravatarVicki sez:

Don't make me drive over there and lick you, CD!

NO FLIRTING!


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GravatarHowells Goes On-Message


Gravatar"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."

Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.


You find that on Amazon like your spelling of Kwisatz Haderach? How about a linky?


GravatarThat Black Forest line really takes the cake...

I was going to say...

never mind.

It was something about desserts.


GravatarLet's have a pajama party tonight. Y'all come and join me under the brand new covers, m-kay?


GravatarYou find that on Amazon like your spelling of Kwisatz Haderach? How about a linky?



GravatarThe owls have sheets.

[haloscan]


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GravatarLet's have a pajama party tonight. Y'all come and join me under the brand new covers, m-kay?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


'kay. But I gotta pick NTodd up at 10:30, so we can't stay up too late....


Gravatardipshit clearly supports overpopulation while at the same time thinks that poor people should just stop having kids.


GravatarFrom the above link:

Unable to foment popular opposition to Margaret Sanger's accomplishments and the organization she founded, Sanger's critics attempt to discredit them by intentionally confusing her views on "fitness" with eugenics, racism, and anti-Semitism. Margaret Sanger was not a racist, an anti-Semite, or a eugenicist. Eugenicists, like the Nazis, were opposed to the use of abortion and contraception by healthy and "fit" women (Grossmann, 1995). In fact, Sanger’s books were among the very first burned by the Nazis in their campaign against family planning ("Sanger on Exhibit," 1999/2000). Sanger actually helped several Jewish women and men and others escape the Nazi regime in Germany ("Margaret Sanger and the ‘Refugee Department’," 1993). [snip]

Although Sanger uniformly repudiated the racist exploitation of eugenics principles, she agreed with the "progressives" of her day who favored: incentives for the voluntary hospitalization and/or sterilization of people with untreatable, disabling, hereditary conditions, the adoption and enforcement of stringent regulations to prevent the immigration of the diseased and "feebleminded" into the U.S., placing so-called illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, and dope-fiends on farms and open spaces as long as necessary for the strengthening and development of moral conduct.

Planned Parenthood Federation of America finds these views objectionable and outmoded. Nevertheless, anti-family planning activists continue to attack Sanger, who has been dead for over 30 years, because she is an easier target than the unassailable reputation of PPFA and the contemporary family planning movement.


Sanger was not perfect by any means, but I love that trollie believes quoting a contextless sentence is "proof" of anything other than his utter dishonesty.


GravatarShe just thought that "darkies" (her word) and other defectives should not be allowed to reproduce. In fact, she called for mass foced sterilization.

-What dipshit is trying to provide support for and what his quotes don't.


GravatarSanger was not perfect by any means, but I love that trollie believes quoting a contextless sentence is "proof" of anything other than his utter dishonesty.
JeffCO | 08.12.06 - 7:28 pm | #


I love how he thinks that progressives in 2006 are exactly the same as the ones in 1922.


GravatarI guess I was a hippie.

1969--bell-bottoms, sandals made with recycled tires for soles, smoking dope, good music, good food, good friends.

Somehow though, I made it through school, got a job and helped end the war (although there were no keyboards back then)--we had to take to the streets.

I see nothing wrong with being a hippie. Gave me my outlook on life.


GravatarI love how he thinks that progressives in 2006 are exactly the same as the ones in 1922.

I notice he stopped referencing Hitler when Prescott Bush's name was mentioned.


GravatarWow...what a surprise. JeffCO pimps a Planned Parenthood piece of propaganda that tries - and fails miserably - to rehabilitate the disgusting views of Sanger.


GravatarA woman of Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, "Give me a drink." His disciples had gone into the twon to buy food. The Samaritan woman said to him, "how can you, a Jew, ask me, a Samaritan woman for a drink? (For Jews use nothing in common with Samaritans). Jesus answered and said to her, "If you knew the gift of God and who is saying to you, 'Give me a drink,' you would have asked him and he would have given you living water."
The Weoman said to him, "sir, you do not even have a bucket and the cistern is deep' where then can you get this living water?" Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us this cistern and drank from it himself with his children and his flocks?" Jesus answered and said to her, "Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again; but whoever drinks the water I shall give will never thirst' the water I shall give will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."


GravatarSays the guy pimping propaganda from anti-abortion websites.....


GravatarMany of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support.

i.e. Welfare Queens. Who was it that used that expression?

Oh right. St. Ronnie Reagan.


GravatarFrankly dipshit, I'm pretty much done with you and your anti-choice rhetoric until you validate it by demonstrating:

1) The existence of the human soul, and
2) Evidence that the soul occupies the body prior to birth.


GravatarI've never met a DIRTY hippie.
Terry C, Outright Partisan
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You should have seen me in 1967.

steve simels

Or me on a few occasions in 1972+-.


GravatarDamn have to go pick the girls up. I can't even relax and read a thread.:-


GravatarWow...what a surprise. JeffCO pimps a Planned Parenthood piece of propaganda that tries - and fails miserably - to rehabilitate the disgusting views of Sanger.
dipshit | 08.12.06 - 7:34 pm



Why is it that the word "abortion" brought all this shit about Sanger from you in the first place?

Oh, I forgot. Birth control is the same as abortion with you wingnuts.


GravatarSo, dipshit, should married couples be allowed to practice birth control?


GravatarThat abortion should be safe and legal is proven by dipshit's very existence.


Gravatarhey dipshit, lefty fascism ??

The Trade Unions offices were closed, their money confiscated, and their leaders put in prison. In their place, Hitler put the German Labour Front which ...

http://www.johndclare.net/ Nazi_G...zi_Germany1.htm


Gravataroh, and duncan, its long-haired, hippy-assed, authority-questioning, pot-smoking, venti-drinking, volvo-driving, sandle-wearing, draft-dodging, mother-fuckers, get the terminology straight


Gravatarhey dipshit, lefty fascism ??

The Trade Unions offices were closed, their money confiscated, and their leaders put in prison. In their place, Hitler put the German Labour Front which ...

http://www.johndclare.net/ Nazi_G...zi_Germany1.htm
tofubo | 08.12.06 - 8:44 pm |


Thanks, pal. You've proven my point.


Gravatarhey dipshit, how does this allign w/democratic, progressive ideals ??

The Nazis took over local government and the police. The Nazis started to replace anti-Nazi teachers and University professors. Hitler set up the Gestapo (the secret police) and encouraged Germans to report opponents and 'grumblers'. Tens of thousands of Jews, Communists, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, gypsies, homosexuals, alcoholics and prostitutes were arrested and sent to concentration camps for 'crimes' as small as writing anti-Nazi graffiti, possessing a banned book, or saying that business was bad.

http://www.johndclare.net/ Nazi_G...zi_Germany1.htm


Gravatarhitler made his choice between the national (right wing) and socialist (left wing) of his coalition na()so() [nazi] party, he picked the industrialists and killed off the SA

http://www.johndclare.net/ Nazi_G...any1_why_sa.htm


Gravatar"And she thinks he's fucking wonderful.

Is she insane????
Terry C, Outright Partisan"

Just another obedient soldier factory....


GravatarI read through some old manuals that were used by nurses in the 1930s in the UK, they seemed fascistic to me in certain respects.

However one should look at them in the context of the time. Racial Eugenics while common in the 30s have become utter taboo today.

Almost any political or scientific commentator said things in 1930s that are racist to us today but ordinary then. The Nazis were in a different class for obvious reasons...comparing the primitive statements of someone like Sanger and Hitler and then lumping them in with todays pro-choicers is a stretch. prominent Republicans voiced similar ideas back then too doncha know?...


GravatarTur,

The Nazis shut persecuted and killed off all the people that the left hold dear and more... Unions, artists, queers, leftists, minorities (blacks, jews, gypsies) intellectuals, journalists etc.

Any rightwinger who attempts to pin the Nazis on the left is a freaking idiot.


GravatarUm, trollies, I realize you're not dumbfuck as all that, but Hitler's use of the word socialist did not make him a liberal. Or a socialist for that matter.


GravatarWe should tried harder to understand Hitler. Attacking him unprovoked was a warcrime. We should have negotiated with him.


GravatarIt's bad enough that we have to put up with trolls, but at the very least, couldn't we have some trolls that aren't such fucking morons?


GravatarIf you've traveled around the world, you'll find many cultures that have adopted some of the more artful hippie icons. Celebrate art. Celebrate hippies.

Come see Hippie Gypsy--http://bookofsigns.blogspot.com/2006/07/ hippie-gypsy.html


GravatarHitler basically followed Mussolini's "innovation" on Socialism: Mussolini argued (in order to lure the working classes) that he was in favor of Socialism. Only that Marx got it wrong: it wasn't a struggle between classes WITHIN nations, it was a struggle BETWEEN nations, some of which were 'bourgeois' and some of which were 'proletarian.'

Therefore, Italy and Germany were up & coming 'proletarian' nations which had to overthrow the ruling 'bourgeois' nations of Britain and France.

It was another load of horse crap from fascist propagandists, but then, fascists have never been known to care much about whether what they said was true or not -- it was true if the glorious road to nationalism made it true.


GravatarOops -- forgot above:

And that's why it was called "National" Socialism, because it was played as a struggle BETWEEN nations, as opposed to "regular" Socialism, which was actually an argument about the working classes and the bourgeoisie, and wasn't just a marketing tool for fascists.


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