I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Fuck Bush (and Zoot 
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And Greenwald is right: they are wrong. So wrong they give a new definition to being wrong.
Simply pathetic
second?
You think I should downstairs and shout OWLS?
(A triple would be nice, though)
morning batses
nutters favorite song-
If loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Grab some coffee and check out my blog. Tons of GOP (and Joe) bashing abound!
America's Least Wanted
Yet Glenn Reynolds continues to write his garbage, blissfully ignorant to his own stupidity
The cretin's promoters are all revved up for the fight. Every a.m. on CSpan getting in with the off topic calls.
All this talk of Iran seems to be heading in the same direction as w's push to privatize Social Security. Nowhere. Except for a very small minority of crazies, the general population just isn't going for it.
WRONGETTY WRONGEDA WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Pardon the shouting.
I give up.
'The same people who were wrong about everything -- literally -- and who viciously mocked those who were right, now want to use the same mindset and assumptions to guide us into our next war. '
And they're just as convinced it's the patriotic thing to do this time, just as willing to send young people to die.
Others have figured the jig's up, discarded their uniforms and returned to their families.
They discarded their uniforms, but not their weapons. It's strange that nobody noticed.
Wrong About Everything
All the time.
-Atrios
"Mark Steyn is Consistent. He is Staying The Course."
All this talk of Iran seems to be heading in the same direction as w's push to privatize Social Security. Nowhere. Except for a very small minority of crazies, the general population just isn't going for it.
ql in ny
Um, ql, I don't think that will stop the Emperor and his minions. I still think we're being set up for another war.
"Stay the Course"
Captain Smith, RMS Titanic.
Then he went to bed
[As usual, I spent a bit of time putting thoughts down, but the threads moved on. However, I think this is still somewhat on topic.]
From the previous thread: Empire, and resistance to it, is the central issue of our time
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by Andrew Murray
Moonbootica, Opera Buff
Just going off that title, "Empire, and resistance to it, is the central issue of our time," I'd say that's been at the center of world affairs at least since World War II. The collapse of centuries old colonial empires met with advances in weaponry and the immense commerce involved in arms sales.
Prior to this administration, our foreign policy has attempted to craft a new kind of empire based on client states that find it in their interests to support our interests. Whenever we tied economic and humanitarian aid, or defensive security, to support for us, we were largely successful. Our bases ring the globe.
Whenever we tried the old method of the previous centuries, which was to bludgeon a country with superior weaponry, we usually failed to create and to maintain client states (I know there are exceptions--we destroyed Nicaragua and Panama with outright aggression). My point is that the "natives," after all, have access to good weapons, too. We've long passed the event horizon where the difference in effective lethality between our superior weapons and the weapons of those we wish to force into submission is negligible.
There is of course, the Salvadoran option, where we use proxies to terrorize a population for many, many years, to the point where they see no hope in resistance. I believe that is what is being tried right now in Iraq, since outright, old-fashioned aggression has not done the trick--no accident that Negroponte appeared on the scene. However, one reason people turn to terror tactics is when there is no hope for defeating a powerful invader. The brutal logic has "their" terror matching "our" terror in an ever expanding and increasingly virulent slide from mass murder to outright genocide. There is no future in such tactics except that of the waste land.
I've said before that if we wish to have a worthwhile "new American century," then we must become a humanitarian superpower. Not only declaring that profit and power are to serve the needs of people, that every person on this planet indeed possesses those natural rights that gave birth to the United States. However, the only way I see such a thing happening is in the wake of a global calamity of such horror that any who try to repeat the brutal methods of the last four centuries is shunned.
The "good news" is that we are well on the way to bringing such a transforming calamity upon ourselves.
And Greenwald is right: they are wrong. So wrong they give a new definition to being wrong.
It's not that they are wrong. It's Ok to be wrong.
it's that they are shamelessly wrong. That they never actually admit that they were wrong, that they never behave as though they were ever wrong.
The managerial mindset, the new courtiers.
the only shit that is kryptonite to fools like that is their own words served back at them...but served cold.
to warmongers, it has always been, the bigger bomb will make them surrender...and that was the rationalization done by warmongers (and still done) - we drop bombs and they surrender, but a funny thing started to happen in korea, solidified in vietnam and is happening in iraq...bombing a country into the 3rd world and hoping for the best never works and is yet another lie they feed to their mouthbreathing, brainwashed sheep...i will bet that >80% of americans in early 2003 believed the shock and awe and treated as liberators stories they were brainwashing us with
There is of course, the Salvadoran option, where we use proxies to terrorize a population for many, many years, to the point where they see no hope in resistance.
I was thinking about this the other day.
The current Isreali brutality in Lebanon is straight out of the SoA playbook.
it's that they are shamelessly wrong. That they never actually admit that they were wrong, that they never behave as though they were ever wrong.
Because they've never been held accountable. Ever, by anyone. Not the press, not the public. Maybe if Bush or Cheney looked out the window and saw a million furious protesters. Maybe. But til that happens they will never admit they were wrong. And maybe not even then.
The obvious counter to being way wrong is to be way way wrong.
Right?
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Man, that Steyn article is reminiscent of one Pearle wrote...
owls, again!
Thanks for your thoughts, Uncle Smokes. I hope we don't have to go through that type of calamity to come to our senses.
OT: (But I had a nap attack)
I was thinking about the insurance thing. Here on the East Coast of Lake Michigan we are paying about 1/160 of the house's value for insurance.
Is this true in other parts of the country or is it higher? Using such a figure a house worth 400,000 should be paying $6,400 for insurance. (I doubt this is true and if you live in a disaster prone area, it should be higher)
From the article
Charles Krauthammer today came out and explicitly said that it is necessary for us to confront Iran militarily, i.e., start a new war against Iran. Democrats should make this election about this question because it is, in large part, what the election is about -- whether the country wants the same people who dragged us into Iraq to do the same in Iran, Syria and beyond.
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I'm not a democrat, but I probably will be pulling for them in the next two elections. From what I've seen it will be hard for them to make this the focal point of their platform, the pubs are experts on making them look unpatriotic
whenever they try it.
Hi Neponset,
This is OT but I- know that you're from MA, and I'd like to put in a plug for Deval Patrick for Governor and Tim Murray for Lt. Gov. (I'm working on both campaigns, right now - among others).
Please consider, anyway.
*sigh*
All that typing, and I screwed up a sentence. I meant to say, "Not only declaring that profit and power are to serve the needs of people, that every person on this planet indeed possesses those natural rights that gave birth to the United States, but actually acting on such a belief."
Oh well...I promise to try to limit any further diatribes. It's just that I've been in such a ranting mood, lately.
I hate to see the evening sun go down
Cuz it makes me feel it's my last go 'round
-- W. C. Handy (ala Bessie Smith), "St. Louis Blues"
You do not understand.
Nobody that was rational could have known the war would/was going badly. If you thought that back then you were a wacko. You only were right by chance, luck.
Only now do smart people have reason to doubt and critique the war effort.
So, you see, the war mongers were not wrong, the war haters were, even tho they were right, and the war mongers were wrong, but not really wrong, becauce it was right at the time and only a fool could have doubted that then, but now .....
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If you would like to say something to Mark
http://www.marksteyn.com/
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It all depends upon what your definition of 'war' is. And, I guess, 'success'. And, uh, 'genius'.
Steyn's also a theater critic who in his book BROADWAY BABIES SAY GOODNIGHT bashed Stephen Sondheim.
Wrong. About. Everything.
According to the LA Times, Bolton, Bush and the Gang are preparing to act alone on Iran sanctions. Sound familiar? Unlike Iraq, Iran has plenty of ways to respond.
OOPS, broken link there: According to the LA Times, Bolton, Bush and the Gang are preparing to act alone on Iran sanctions. Sound familiar? Unlike Iraq, Iran has plenty of ways to respond.
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