I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Huh?
almost
so close.
The first clip I watched depressed me.
[shakes fist, withholds Curly]
.
Fuck Bush - every day in every way
http://www.silverlanddesserts.com/
The best brownies ever made come from this little outfit not too far from the Forest Park station on the Blue Line, friends. (Picking up from the brownie discussion on the previous thread.)
Fuck Bush!
Damned if I could understand one-in-seven words of that first clip.
.
The first clip I watched depressed me.
SteveNS | 08.26.06 - 11:26 pm | #
I tried running all four clips at the same time: a symphony of idiocy.
Well, I shall return to painting my bedroom.
Wow, Hitchens cleans up good.
Okay.
Brownies. The best I ever ate were from Troop 37; Cincinnati, I believe.
Wow, Hitchens cleans up good.
Hitchens should be shot into the sun.
His idiocy is fucking annoying.
Um...Rowley Birkin QC is a um... comedian? One can never tell these days thanks to Bush.
I like the way Jane Fonda looked in 'La Curée'.
http://imdb.com/gallery/mptv/
100...ath_key=0060271
http://imdb.com/title/tt0060271/
Just sayin'.
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Those are some fine-looking brownies.
For the puzzled.
The clips remind me of Reece Shearsmith
"I'm afraid that I was very, very drunk,"
i don't know i was very drunk at the time.
thank god for answers.com
is this where pink floyd got that line?
I think Birkin's work is a medley of incoherence mixed with mangled hilarity.
Going to go read how to set up my phone...
oy.
ellroon: I think Birkin's work is a medley of incoherence mixed with mangled hilarity.
dith be his apprentice!
.
Does anyone remember the Two Ronnies? There was a show called The Picnic that was totally this style of imitation conversation.
I'm phonecally challenged.
dith be his apprentice!
dith, be not proud
Rowley was based on a man, named Andrew Rollo
hey, i actually have a british freind in miami who is in fact andrew rollo.
I saw great story in the paper about brownies. Seems these Trailways drivers found a bag of them on a bus after they dropped off a bunch of girl scouts at some mountain jamboree. So they partook-- and experienced something like Hoffman riding down the hill on his bicycle in 1945. What a waste.
SteveNS: dith, be not proud
[shakes fist, withholds Curly]
.
For the puzzled.
You talking to me?
I'm phonecally challenged
This calls for replacement therapy at the cellular level.
Thanks, Atrios. Those were fun. The last one was unexpectedly poignant.
(And thanks, Thers, for the info.)
YouTube is not nice to dialup people
That guy sounds almost like the adults do in a Charlie Brown cartoon.
dith, be not proud
Dith ith thee N N
Jeff. P. -- [shakes fist, withholds Curly]
I'm cat-sitting Hobbes tonight, so I'm already running at full catpacity.
WSJ -- Leading Repuke economist sez we're all screwed
Harvard University’s Martin Feldstein is traditionally an active participant at the Fed’s annual Jackson Hole conference. Last year, he was unusually quiet, a result of the fact he was under consideration to succeed Alan Greenspan as chairman of the Fed. Since then, the job went to Ben Bernanke and this year Mr. Feldstein seemed more willing to speak his mind. His views, had they come from a Fed chairman, would have sent the markets into a tizzy. First, Mr. Feldstein repeated his long-standing view that the U.S. dollar has to fall a lot to rein in the U.S.’s massive trade deficit. It’s not clear when or how fast, “but I have no doubt it will be coming.” A lower dollar, he said, will result in “higher inflation.” Furthermore, U.S. interest rates will have to rise to entice foreigners to hold onto some of their dollar holdings. So “the most likely response [is] some combination of higher real interest rates and a falling value of the dollar, further complicating the problem for monetary policy.” Alternatively, Americans could cut their consumption, leading to a narrower trade deficit and higher saving, perhaps because of lower house prices. Then the Fed has the delicate job of “balancing the decline in domestic demand and the process of international adjustment.”
I'm phonecally challenged
This calls for replacement therapy at the cellular level.
FeralLiberal
My stupid cell phone doesn't even work in my house. But then, I'm one of the AT&T customers that were screwed over by Cingular. At least there is a lawsuit going on over the purposeful dropped calls and poor reception.
I'm porting my numbers as soon as I'm able.
If this be...dith!
A Stan Lee - Jack Kirby Masterpiece!
Smokes is correct. The last one is suprisingly poignant.
Oh no you dithn't.
My cat Sophie was sprayed by a skunk last Saturday. she must have jumped on it because she was totally covered all over her belly and back legs
My cat Sophie was sprayed by a skunk last Saturday. she must have jumped on it because she was totally covered all over her belly and back legs
bill
Are you sure the skunk's name wasn't Pepe La Peu?
YouTube is not nice to dialup people
You said it. They want to stratify the net? Try opening General JC Christian on dialup-- you have to wait for every single one of those permutations of his name to play out, before the server even takes you seriously.
good night,all
[shakes fist, withholds Curly]
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
(actually - I'm only seeing white boxes on my screen. so i have no idea what this post is about.)
Are you sure the skunk's name wasn't Pepe La Peu?
ellroon lambofascist
Didn't have the pleasure. Poor little thing really stinks though
Hobbes has taken to catching bats -- he's gotten two in the last three nights.
Thank Jeebus he's vaccinated against rabies.
Didn't have the pleasure. Poor little thing really stinks though
bill
NTodd knows all about removing skunk from his animals.
Harvard University’s Martin Feldstein
I'd give more weight to the opinion of Al Feldstein.
my vet told me a cool trick for giving a cat a bath
My cat Sophie was sprayed by a skunk last Saturday. she must have jumped on it because she was totally covered all over her belly and back legs
bill
Are you sure the skunk's name wasn't Pepe La Peu?
ellroon lambofascist
That'll teach her not to accidentally get a strip of white paint on her back.
There are no skunks on the island here, or he'd likely bring me one of them, too.
thank you Thers.
Although I may understand even more if my computer will decided to show me these clips.
NTodd knows all about removing skunk from his animals.
I've done this, too. The veterinarian gave a formula which consisted of hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and soap. It worked well, but you'd have to bathe the cat.
I recall with a certain indigestible fondness the comedic pas de deux of Messrs. Barker and Corbet that unfolded each week on the telly so many decades ago. A particular favorite of mine, and my manservant TinyDoubles, was a short, wordless escapade with the naughty title "Futtocks End". It involved a hunt as I recall and, oh, did the Ronnies - both of them - tickle some bones, the my funny ones and those being processed, as I type, in the basement.
I believe I forgot a "Tee"
Jane Fonda as Barbarella...
http://imdb.com/gallery/mptv/137...y=Fonda,%
20Jane
Love the hair.
I used Skunk Off first (a couple of times) tomorrow I'm using the very recipe you mentioned Echidne
Anyone for blueberry cobbler? It's warm.
I'm watching Batman Begins... which i9s dumb, but a far higher quality of dumb than any of the other Batman films.
Anyone for blueberry cobbler? It's warm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
/Drools on keyboard and fogs up monitor...
Gov't snooping...?!
Nah!
I recall with a certain indigestible fondness the comedic pas de deux of Messrs. Barker and Corbet that unfolded each week on the telly so many decades ago. A particular favorite of mine, and my manservant TinyDoubles, was a short, wordless escapade with the naughty title "Futtocks End". It involved a hunt as I recall and, oh, did the Ronnies - both of them - tickle some bones, the my funny ones and those being processed, as I type, in the basement.
EvilWalterNeff
Oh, far canal!
I was always a Ronnies guy. Never saw what was so hot about Benny Hill...
Anyone for blueberry cobbler? It's warm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
(raises hand!)
A few weeks ago I made a blackberry crisp. Picked the blackberries in the park. yum.....
Although I may understand even more if my computer will decided to show me these clips.
Conquer your fear, young Jedi.
The cat bath trick is to lean a screen against a tree and place the cat on the screen. Her claws go through and you can scrub the heck out of her.
Messrs. Barker and Corbet
I've not seen the "Two Ronnies" in a Long Time. Are they on video?
I'm watching Batman Begins... which i9s dumb, but a far higher quality of dumb than any of the other Batman films.
Thers
Nolan's new film "The Prestige", also starring Christian Bale, looks terrific.
I'm watching Batman Begins... which i9s dumb, but a far higher quality of dumb than any of the other Batman films.
Thers, Extant
I thought this Batman was the best one so far. I don't like Tim Burton's Batman movies (but my daughter loves him).
Jane Fonda as Barbarella...
Was she the American Bardot or what? Ever see that weird film she made with Roger Vadim and her brother? Something about falling in love with her spirit in a horse.
Anyone for blueberry cobbler? It's warm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Sarah made some tonight, but I wasn't going to share my cobbler.
Aren't blueberry's in season? I paid over 3 bucks for a half pint
What can I say? I love you, EvilWalterNeff.
I have to admit I was really, really, macacad at the time!
sally,
Yes, please!
I have some raspberries and blackberries that are ripe...wondering what to do with them. I have a day...
I like Batman Begins. Favorite one.
Love the hair.
Richard
She looks like a face peeking out of the back of someone else's head...
Messrs. Barker and Corbet
I've not seen the "Two Ronnies" in a Long Time. Are they on video?
FeralLiberal
We've had the video for years. Prolly out on dvd now.
Well all...
I'm getting very hopeful about this Novemeber.
(Although I'm cautious about being too optimistic. Being a Democrat kind of feels like being a Cubs & a Mariners fan. And I had my heart broken a few too many times by those folks.)
But I am thinking we're going to take back the Senate.
I have some raspberries and blackberries that are ripe...
Have you considered making wine?
Feral, never. I'm talking a quart each...
don't like Tim Burton's Batman movies (but my daughter loves him).
ellroon
Do you like Burton's other work?
Not consistent, but occasionally he hits a home run. Of his recent films, I thought "Corpse Bride" was great, and I have a real affection for "Big Fish", too. Choked me all up.
don't like Tim Burton's Batman movies (but my daughter loves him).
ellroon
Do you like Burton's other work?
Not consistent, but occasionally he hits a home run. Of his recent films, I thought "Corpse Bride" was great, and I have a real affection for "Big Fish", too. Choked me all up.
But I am thinking we're going to take back the Senate.
geoduck
Knock on wood somewhere! Gotta not jinx it. But oh please may you be right!
Vicki--mix them with enough flour, brown sugar and cinnamon to make them gooey.
Pour into a sprayed 8" pan.
Top with:
1/2 c. brown sugar, packed
1/4 c. granulated sugar
1/2 c. flour
1/2 c. rolled oats
1/2 c. firm butter
Mix topping and throw over berry mixture. Bake at 375 F for 30 minutes. Serve warm.
I liked batman begins, but it strained my understanding of microwaves...
I liked batman begins, but it strained my understanding of microwaves...
I have to admit I was really, really, macacad at the time!
Actually, that's f'cocked but you have to know yiddish.
I have some raspberries and blackberries that are ripe...wondering what to do with them. I have a day...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
ohh- that crisp really was quite good.
Or you could get some nice cream for a simple option.
Blackberry cobbler? You put those little portable electronic phone thingies...?
I'm talking a quart each...
Well if you get up to about 2 1/2 lbs you've got enough for a gallon batch.
I'm talking a quart each...
Well if you get up to about 2 1/2 lbs you've got enough for a gallon batch.
Mix topping and throw over berry mixture. Bake at 375 F for 30 minutes. Serve warm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | Homepage | 08.26.06 - 11:50 pm | #
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That is the perfect crisp! Thanks!
So...I was lurking downstairs briefly, and came away with the impression that another it's-safer-in-Iraq-than-America meme was being floated by our "liberal media."
This is the kind of thing that could drive me to murder. Why in God's name are Americans such gluttons for contempt?
Not consistent, but occasionally he hits a home run. Of his recent films, I thought "Corpse Bride" was great, and I have a real affection for "Big Fish", too. Choked me all up.
SteveNS
Haven't seen Big Fish yet. Enjoyed Corpse Bride. But Depp in Scissorhands, the Icabod Crane one, the Batman ones....they're too. ... gooey and organic.
I like Batman Begins. Favorite one.
bill
Quick idea for a movie: Batman Ends, about a twisted comics fan who hunts down everyone who starred in the Batman movie franchise. Think of the long lines of people queueing up just to see Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George Clooney, Jack Nicholson, Jim Carrey, and so on, get offed. Ka-ching!
Conquer your fear, young Jedi.
Thers, Extant
Hee.
I read the quote "luminous being we are.." on the blogs and asked Mr. Geo if it was a Shakespeare quote.
I found out, no, it was Yoda.
Hey Vicki,
howsit going?
i will email you Monday, this comp is for shit.
Phila,
It's all they've:
a) heard
b) know
That's why we must elevate the discourse; to make the idea that hope springs eternal win over fear.
This is the kind of thing that could drive me to murder. Why in God's name are Americans such gluttons for contempt?
Phila
Because Merkins are so much better than everyone else, that Merkins can shoulder so much more contempt than the rest of the world combined.
American exceptionalism at its finest.
focus,
I look forward to it! Thank you.
I found out, no, it was Yoda.
geoduck | 08.26.06 - 11:53 pm | #
Actually, if you decode the anagrams in Yoda's dialogue, you'll find that it was actually written by Francis Bacon.
SteveNS: I have a real affection for "Big Fish", too. Choked me all up.
That's a great flick. I just had it returned to me, recently, too. I think I'll watch that tomorrow.
.
SteveNS: I have a real affection for "Big Fish", too. Choked me all up.
That's a great flick. I just had it returned to me, recently, too. I think I'll watch that tomorrow.
.
But I am thinking we're going to take back the Senate.
We will eventually I'm sure. That's the thing about these guys. Instead of trying to take over by, you know, meeting people's needs, their whole ethic is to rip off everyone else. And they think this is going to work over the long term? Maybe it's a self-esteem problem-- they want to be run out of town on a rail. I dunno. They're deluded.
Out damned spot! Out I say!
they're too. ... gooey and organic
Hm. You may not share my liking for "Big Fish", then.
Actually, if you decode the anagrams in Yoda's dialogue, you'll find that it was actually written by Francis Bacon.
Phila
No! Really? I thought it was the Earl of Rochester or somebody...
The biggest problem I have with this Batman Begins movie is philosophical. You're supposed to strike fear into your enemies by adopting the symbol of your greatest fear, right?
But look, I just am not calling myself "Stuck on an Elevator with George Will-Man." That would be silly. And what would the costume even look like?
These are deep waters.
they're too. ... gooey and organic
Hm. You may not share my liking for "Big Fish", then.
SteveNS
I'll watch it and come back here to complain.
So...I was lurking downstairs briefly, and came away with the impression that another it's-safer-in-Iraq-than-America meme was being floated by our "liberal media."
Phila
Do people really believe this?
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re: the media.
Our media news is just crap.
It would be interesting to compare the differences between Pravda type news and CNN filled w/ stories about a 10 year old murder (while ignoring the middle east & all other domestic political news.)
Anyways - at some point it is just as efficient as propaganda, and perhaps more so, because the watchers understand it's intention is not to be a support arm of the state.
Out damned spot! Out I say!
William Shakespeare
Shakespeare's dog was always pissing on the sofa.
Sliding for now, later 'bats...
These are deep waters.
Thers, Extant
that's just because you didn't grow up in a giant house with a batcave underneath
I thought a nice world was created in Batman Begins for a great superhero story to exist in, but the story itself not so great.
I'll watch it and come back here to complain.
ellroon
Deal!
Tim Burton gives me hives, actually.
No! Really? I thought it was the Earl of Rochester or somebody...
ellroon lambofascist
From what I've read of Rochester...errr...
by the way - that movie about Rochester was just crap. They could have done so much better.
I read the quote "luminous being we are.." on the blogs and asked Mr. Geo if it was a Shakespeare quote.
I found out, no, it was Yoda.
geoduck
"Romeo, Romeo, O! Romeo, forewhere thou art?"
Atrios,
Nothing. is. perfect.
Even me.
But look, I just am not calling myself "Stuck on an Elevator with George Will-Man." That would be silly. And what would the costume even look like?
These are deep waters.
Thers, Extant
Hmm. My greatest fear.... I guess my costume would have a pattern with Dubya's grinning face with a little crown on it..
It's all they've:
a) heard
b) know
I don't think that's true. In the real world, most Americans wouldn't tolerate the kind of smarmy condescension they get from the media for ten seconds.
Also, the idea that "discourse" is a viable tool for political change at the present time may be overoptimistic.
Did you know Shakespeare was the lawyer for the Globe Theater. And he never lost a case...
I thought a nice world was created in Batman Begins for a great superhero story to exist in, but the story itself not so great.
Atrios
That's the problem with movies that are made with an eye towards the franchise potential.
Poll: Clinton, Clark best Huckabee in potential '08 White House match-ups
Friday, Aug 25, 2006
By James Jefferson
Arkansas News Bureau
LITTLE ROCK - A new poll shows Arkansans favor Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York over Republican Gov. Mike Huckabee in a potential 2008 race for the White House.
The term-limited Huckabee, who is considering a run for GOP presidential nomination when he leaves office early next year after 10 years as governor, also trailed another possible homegrown presidential hopeful, Democrat Wesley Clark, in the poll commissioned by the Arkansas News Bureau-Stephens Media.
http://www.arkansasnews.com/arch...ews/
337438.html
Huckabee has to be totally bummed. Bwaaahahahaha!
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From Barron's, Why the Cease-Fire Won't Hold for Long
George Friedman, head of the Austin, Texas private intelligence company Stratfor, has a particularly visceral and personal knowledge of Middle East geopolitics.
Over the years, the former academic has worked in close contact with the Israel Defense Forces and the MOssad intelligence service; Friedman has loads of contacts in Israel. Too, his U.S. Army reservist daughter is scheduled to begin a second deployment to Iraq in October as an intelligence specialist with the First Cavalry. And in recent years, Stratfor has developed some sources inside Hezbollah.
"Some of them were real firebrands in the early 'Eighties', but have gotten wealthy dealing in Beirut real estate and banking and developed the middle-aged guy maladies like prostrate problems and diabetes," Friedman notes wryly in an interview with Barron's.
We've consulted Friedman periodically since shortly after 9/11 to get his take on everything from al Queda and the war on terror to the latest twists and turns in U.S. policy on Iraq. His views, ofter sought out by big investors, are invariably objective, trenchant, and idiosynratic.
Thus, its of interest that Friedman thinks Israel was the big loser after its recent 35 day war against Hezbollah."
The Bottom Line, according to Barron's, "Markets should brace for more hostilities in Lebanon - and recognize how much power Iran and Hezbollah NOW wield."
The NOW is my own emphasis. The Bush administration and Israel have made Iran and Hezbollah big time players.
Actually, if you decode the anagrams in Yoda's dialogue, you'll find that it was actually written by Francis Bacon.
Phila
Well, that makes me feel a little better.
(by the way - i apologize for my horrible grammar tonight. And i guess "crap" was my word for the day.)
Tim Burton gives me hives, actually.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 08.26.06 - 11:58 pm | #
"Ed Wood" was great. The rest of his ouevre could be shot into the sun for all I care.
I just am not calling myself "Stuck on an Elevator with George Will-Man." That would be silly. And what would the costume even look like?
As long as it involved you jamming your fist down Goerge Will's throat, you can't go wrong.
It would be interesting to compare the differences between Pravda type news and CNN filled w/ stories about a 10 year old murder (while ignoring the middle east & all other domestic political news.)
geoduck
And in contrast, British exceptionalism produces quacks like Niall Ferguson, but as counterweight produces mainstream comedy making fun of British exceptionalism.
Can you imagine ABC or Fox producing a comedy series making fun of the most jingoistic of the American exceptionalists?
Hey batties. Who's Rowley Birkin and what's that about? I have no chance in hell of loading and playing a video on this 11 K/s dial-up.
I don't think that's true. In the real world, most Americans wouldn't tolerate the kind of smarmy condescension they get from the media for ten seconds.
Also, the idea that "discourse" is a viable tool for political change at the present time may be overoptimistic.
I agree with both of these comments, though I would add that there is a large group of people who agree with what the media tells them to believe.
I'm a socialist. I believe in discoure. I believe.
so...has anyone else noticed there's a tropical storm, predicted to become a hurricane, taking aim directly at New Orleans?
And in contrast, British exceptionalism produces quacks like Niall Ferguson,
Gah.
Slowly I turned...
The term-limited Huckabee, who is considering a run for GOP presidential nomination when he leaves office early next year after 10 years as governor,
Good. Saw him at last years natl. governers association meeting and he worried me. I think he's one of their strongest contenders.
"Ed Wood" was great. The rest of his ouevre could be shot into the sun for all I care.
Phila
Even "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure"?
I also did hope that Batman Begins would show him fighting the Burgermeister Meisterburger.
so...has anyone else noticed there's a tropical storm, predicted to become a hurricane, taking aim directly at New Orleans?
John Savage
We should name it in honor of Bush the bastard.
Or maybe Heckuvajob Brownie.
Hey batties. Who's Rowley Birkin and what's that about? I have no chance in hell of loading and playing a video on this 11 K/s dial-up.
Tena
Check out Ther's link in this thread.
Fuel and electricity prices are up more than 270 percent from last year’s, according to Iraqi government figures. Tea in some markets has quadrupled, egg prices have doubled, and all over the country the daily routine now includes a new question: What can be done without?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/
2...agewanted=print
I'm a socialist. I believe in discoure. I believe.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore | Homepage | 08.27.06 - 12:02 am | #
Well, socialism also has a fairly noble tradition of action, which seems to be pretty much by the wayside these days.
But look, I just am not calling myself "Stuck on an Elevator with George Will-Man." That would be silly. And what would the costume even look like?
I'm trying to see a bow tie with the cape and tights, and...it's not working.
Actually, Heath Ledger's going to be the Joker in the next Batman film.
I'm trying to picture it and failing.
Hurricane Bush II
"Ed Wood" is good, I agree. Apart from that, ack, pthui.
so...has anyone else noticed there's a tropical storm, predicted to become a hurricane, taking aim directly at New Orleans?
Yep. That little pupper's supposed to go over Jamaica tomorrow night, then nothing but the warm Carribbean between it and us.
The Bush administration and Israel have made Iran and Hezbollah big time players.
Kinda funny when you consider that Iran used Chalabi's operations to suck President Dummy into the tarpit to begin with, busted codes and all.
And no heads roll. Pure Republican competence and oversight.
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Even "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure"?
SteveNS | 08.27.06 - 12:03 am | #
No, I guess I'd spare that one. It had some good moments.
Cobbler?
TinyDoubles! Take the NeffSkis!! Mach Schnell!
And please wrap it in foil with the shiny side in. And perhaps a dollop of French Vanilla, pourquoi pas?
and a biscuit - something shortbreadish.
There's a large number of Americans who truly believe in American exceptionalism and I don't see that changing - at least until a couple of generations die off.
Well, socialism also has a fairly noble tradition of action, which seems to be pretty much by the wayside these days.
Phila
Yeah, and I don't get that. We are so...spoiled here.
I've been to union meetings all over the country, and, especially during the Clinton years, I was surprised to see the lack of support. If only they would have known.
by the way - that movie about Rochester was just crap. They could have done so much better.-geoduck
really, I thought Jack Benny was very good... (huh, he was miserly)
by the way - that movie about Rochester was just crap. They could have done so much better.-geoduck
really, I thought Jack Benny was very good... (huh, he was miserly)
Must-B-Going...
♥
"Ed Wood" was great. The rest of his ouevre could be shot into the sun for all I care.
Phila
Loved Ed Wood & agree w/ this analysis of Burton. (except Beetlejuice was fun.)
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Saw Little Miss Sunshine today. I enjoyed it & recommend it.
Well, I'm off to tickle the ivories...or...well...the space-age, impact-resistant plastic keys of my synthesizer...
Y'all take care of your good selves!
Except for Vicki: You take care of your perfect self...don't play coy with me, you fabulous lady!
Good night!
Tena, as always:
That comment was very eloquent.
American exceptionalism at its finest.
As a Canadian, I've always been kind of disturbed as the extremes that patriotism takes in the USA.
Canadians are proud of their country, but they don't look apon it as being an infallible holyland founded by near mythical figures (hell, our first Prime Minister was a drunk).
Too many Americans think that being patriotic means subscribing to an inflexible, almost religious dogma about their country.
I just went out to dinner with friends, and I'm too full to even think about anything else.
Night Jeffraham & Curly!
I'm partial to The Nightmare Before Christmas. I like the Chocolate Factory too. I hope Johnny Depp doesn't move to Bahrain.
Heath Ledger's going to be the Joker
The way Cesar Romero's Joker mocked Batman made the part, IMHO.
Vicki - well thank you.
Saw Little Miss Sunshine today. I enjoyed it & recommend it.
geoduck
Saw it last night myself.
Wasn't as "laugh out loud" funny as I'd hoped, but it was still good, and Abigail Breslin was flat-out adorable.
I'm partial to The Nightmare Before Christmas. I like the Chocolate Factory too. I hope Johnny Depp doesn't move to Bahrain.
James Jesus Rimbaud
Who on earth wants to move to Bahrain? Isn't Michael Jackson there?
I'm partial to The Nightmare Before Christmas. I like the Chocolate Factory too. I hope Johnny Depp doesn't move to Bahrain.
James Jesus Rimbaud
Who on earth wants to move to Bahrain? Isn't Michael Jackson there?
really, I thought Jack Benny was very good... (huh, he was miserly)
focus
I don't know my actors very well, but I think perhaps we are talking about different movies.
I was thinking about the recent Depp one about Rochester.
'night, Jeffraham.
goodnight all
There's a large number of Americans who truly believe in American exceptionalism and I don't see that changing - at least until a couple of generations die off.
Tena | Homepage | 08.27.06 - 12:06 am | #
I think that what they really believe in is overcompensation and self-medication. If they honestly believed in American exceptionalism, they'd hold it to its ideals.
Too many Americans think that being patriotic means subscribing to an inflexible, almost religious dogma about their country.
Richard
I agree, but I think the key to that is WWII. We got the idea that we are invincible and in fact this country did peak soon after the war. Kennedy was probably our peak. We thought we could do anything, and we were making it happen.
Phila - Here's what I think about that: it's shallow. That kind of patriotism isn't well-thoughtout. It's just very shallow and something people have been taught to think.
little miss sunshine is good and timely given the resurgence of jonbenet
Kinda funny when you consider that Iran used Chalabi's operations to suck President Dummy into the tarpit to begin with, busted codes and all.
And no heads roll. Pure Republican competence and oversight.
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QuentinCompson
remember RogerLSimon said all of that pre-war Iraq stuff was just a charade and it's not their fault that Merkins weren't smart enough to see through the charade. (I think atrios killed this link at the martini republic when it first went up months ago)
Actually, Heath Ledger's going to be the Joker in the next Batman film.
I see that on the imdb listing...
The Dark Knight (200
http://imdb.com/title/tt0468569/
though I've not seen any actual reports confirming it.
I don't know my actors very well, but I think perhaps we are talking about different movies.
geoduck
well, okaysum!!
Richard, Amerika thinks your country is its biggest suburb. If I was you guys, I'd make sure Amerikans were treated rudely at all border crossings.
As a Canadian, I've always been kind of disturbed as the extremes that patriotism takes in the USA.
Hi there, Bruce.
little miss sunshine is good and timely given the resurgence of jonbenet
Atrios
Holy crap, you're right! I can't believe the Ramsey thing never entered my mind during the "beauty pageant".
good and timely
Jack, you gotta learn to sound like us if you want to pass.
I think that what they really believe in is overcompensation and self-medication. If they honestly believed in American exceptionalism, they'd hold it to its ideals.
Phila
That's the point of British comedy like the linked youtube videos. Mocking the delusional level of self-medication you find among the most fervent of British exceptionalists.
I think that what they really believe in is overcompensation and self-medication. If they honestly believed in American exceptionalism, they'd hold it to its ideals.
Phila
You know I always thought of the term "American exceptionalism" in the way we're speaking of it now. (Perry Millier/ rah rah/ city on a hill)
But in a class I took about the history of economy & buisness in the United States, the professor used the term "American exceptionalism" in a different (and new to me) way.
It was, why of the industrialized countries is the United states the one national so behind on the social citizenship concept. (national health care/ pensions/ ect.)
We started called these articles about American "exceptionalism" the "why is the United States not Denmark" articles.
That Rochester film sounds pretty cool-- John Malkowitz as Charles II-- promising idea.
Phila - Here's what I think about that: it's shallow. That kind of patriotism isn't well-thoughtout. It's just very shallow and something people have been taught to think.
Tena | Homepage | 08.27.06 - 12:12 am | #
I agree, pretty much. But I do think there's the additional aspect of making yourself feel better by making other people feel worse. I think the tendency towards scapegoating and bigotry has a lot more to do with economic anxieties than jingoism. You can have a shallow notion of patriotism without necessarily being driven to the sort of petty acts of persecution we're seeing nowadays.
Iran is actually protecting US and British forces in southern Iraq and could withdraw its forebearance at any moment.
little miss sunshine
Wow, I guess Lee siegel is tight about how all liberals are into pedophilia.
little miss sunshine is good and timely given the resurgence of jonbenet
Atrios
oh yes.
I love the reactions of the family (the main characters) as they watch the talent show.
You can have a shallow notion of patriotism
And you will, if you pay enough attention in high school to get a passing grade.
Phila - there are ideals, and ideals. Some people's are rather disturbingly different.
For example, Pat Buchanan's American ideals are waaaaaaaay different than yours or mine.
Wow, I guess Lee siegel is tight about how all liberals are into pedophilia.
Thers, Extant
You know, I lived in blissful ignorance about TNR until I started to read blogs.
And I do feel sorry for any decent reporters who work for that rag. How embarassing.
Editor & Publisher editor, Greg Mitchell, caught in a web of lies and coverups.
Big surprise that a lefty media critic commits transgressions he is supposedly a watchdog against, huh?
Hypocrite? You betcha
As a Canadian, I've always been kind of disturbed as the extremes that patriotism takes in the USA.
Canadians are proud of their country, but they don't look apon it as being an infallible holyland founded by near mythical figures (hell, our first Prime Minister was a drunk).
Too many Americans think that being patriotic means subscribing to an inflexible, almost religious dogma about their country.
Richard
Some Murkans never got the memo that God bless America does NOT mean god damn the rest of the world.
It was, why of the industrialized countries is the United states the one national so behind on the social citizenship concept. (national health care/ pensions/ ect.)
It's odd, alright. People tend to blame it on the Puritans, but they had a fairly well developed social safety net, a mania for publicly funded education, and laws limiting the amount of profit you could make on a sale. So...
Bah...merde on Patriotism...its better to be a Renegade of Funk.
matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
No matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
We're the renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Since the Prehistoric ages and the days of ancient Greece
Right down through the Middle Ages
Planet earth kept going through changes
And then no renaissance came, and times continued to change
Nothing stayed the same, but there were always renegades
Like Chief Sitting Bull, Tom Paine
Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X
They were renegades of their time and age
So many renegades
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
From a different solar system many many galaxies away
We are the force of another creation
A new musical revelation
And we're on this musical mission to help the others listen
And groove from land to land singin' electronic chants like
Zulu nation
Revelations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Now renegades are the people with their own philosophies
They change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
We're the renegades we're the people
With our own philosophies
We change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
C'mon
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
Because where we're goin' there ain't no stoppin'
Poppin', sockin', puttin' a side of hip-hop
Because where we're goin' there ain't no stoppin'
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
'Cause we're poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're teachers of the funk
And not of empty popping
We're blessed with the force and the sight of electronics
With the bass, and the treble the horns and our vocals
'Cause everytime I pop into the beat we get fresh
There was a time when our music
Was something called the Bay Street beat
People would gather from all around
To get down to the big sound
You had to be a renegade in those days
To take a man to the dance floor
Say jam sucker
Say jam sucker
Say groove sucker
Say groove sucker
Say dance sucker
Say dance sucker
Now move sucker
Now move sucker
[x2]
We're the renegades of funk
If I were running for pres on the D ticket, I think I'd make this a big part of my campaign: Bring the National Guard home and put them to work rebuilding the Gulf Coast. We've got to take care of our own. (Except I'd phrase it better. And I'd follow through on it too.)
matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
No matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
We're the renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Since the Prehistoric ages and the days of ancient Greece
Right down through the Middle Ages
Planet earth kept going through changes
And then no renaissance came, and times continued to change
Nothing stayed the same, but there were always renegades
Like Chief Sitting Bull, Tom Paine
Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X
They were renegades of their time and age
So many renegades
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
From a different solar system many many galaxies away
We are the force of another creation
A new musical revelation
And we're on this musical mission to help the others listen
And groove from land to land singin' electronic chants like
Zulu nation
Revelations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Now renegades are the people with their own philosophies
They change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
We're the renegades we're the people
With our own philosophies
We change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
C'mon
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
Because where we're goin' there ain't no stoppin'
Poppin', sockin', puttin' a side of hip-hop
Because where we're goin' there ain't no stoppin'
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
'Cause we're poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're teachers of the funk
And not of empty popping
We're blessed with the force and the sight of electronics
With the bass, and the treble the horns and our vocals
'Cause everytime I pop into the beat we get fresh
There was a time when our music
Was something called the Bay Street beat
People would gather from all around
To get down to the big sound
You had to be a renegade in those days
To take a man to the dance floor
Say jam sucker
Say jam sucker
Say groove sucker
Say groove sucker
Say dance sucker
Say dance sucker
Now move sucker
Now move sucker
[x2]
We're the renegades of funk
Bah...merde on Patriotism...its better to be a Renegade of Funk
matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
No matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
We're the renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Since the Prehistoric ages and the days of ancient Greece
Right down through the Middle Ages
Planet earth kept going through changes
And then no renaissance came, and times continued to change
Nothing stayed the same, but there were always renegades
Like Chief Sitting Bull, Tom Paine
Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X
They were renegades of their time and age
So many renegades
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
From a different solar system many many galaxies away
We are the force of another creation
A new musical revelation
And we're on this musical mission to help the others listen
And groove from land to land singin' electronic chants like
Zulu nation
Revelations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Now renegades are the people with their own philosophies
They change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
We're the renegades we're the people
With our own philosophies
We change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
C'mon
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
a mania for publicly funded education, and laws limiting the amount of profit you could make on a sale. So...
Phila
Yeah. The puritans were pretty commutarian. It was a long time ago - but the articles talked about the buisness culture of the late 19th and early 20th century.
It's sad that we don't have the kind of social citizenship of many european countries. (dreaming of 4 week vacations, pensions, health care...sigh...)
Out damned dipshit! out!
Bring the National Guard home and put them to work rebuilding the Gulf Coast.
It was encouraging hearing Lamont say they should be over here helping us. Maybe he'll convert that guy Hillary sent over, and the idea will spread.
You can have a shallow notion of patriotism without necessarily being driven to the sort of petty acts of persecution we're seeing nowadays.
Oh absolutely. But see my ideals comment.
Everyone's ideas about this country and its ideals are not the same, obviously.
But even clear thinking and mostly liberal people I know will not hear it said that this country isn't the best. I think that depends on how well someone is doing, by and large. People who aren't struggling think every thing is all but perfect because they don't think beyond their own little horizon.
At one time, I thought everyone had more or less the same sense of perspective about history (I was very young); and to belabor the obvious, that just isn't so.
Patriotsim? Its better to be a Renegade of Funk.
matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
No matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
We're the renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Since the Prehistoric ages and the days of ancient Greece
Right down through the Middle Ages
Planet earth kept going through changes
And then no renaissance came, and times continued to change
Nothing stayed the same, but there were always renegades
Like Chief Sitting Bull, Tom Paine
Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X
They were renegades of their time and age
So many renegades
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
From a different solar system many many galaxies away
We are the force of another creation
A new musical revelation
And we're on this musical mission to help the others listen
And groove from land to land singin' electronic chants like
Zulu nation
Revelations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Now renegades are the people with their own philosophies
They change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
We're the renegades we're the people
With our own philosophies
We change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
C'mon
We're the renegades of funk
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14531623/
They shoot reporters, don't they, those Israelis?
matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
No matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now
We're the renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Renegades of this atomic age
This atomic age of renegades
Since the Prehistoric ages and the days of ancient Greece
Right down through the Middle Ages
Planet earth kept going through changes
And then no renaissance came, and times continued to change
Nothing stayed the same, but there were always renegades
Like Chief Sitting Bull, Tom Paine
Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X
They were renegades of their time and age
So many renegades
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
From a different solar system many many galaxies away
We are the force of another creation
A new musical revelation
And we're on this musical mission to help the others listen
And groove from land to land singin' electronic chants like
Zulu nation
Revelations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Destroy our nations
Now renegades are the people with their own philosophies
They change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
We're the renegades we're the people
With our own philosophies
We change the course of history
Everyday people like you and me
C'mon
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
Because where we're goin' there ain't no stoppin'
Poppin', sockin', puttin' a side of hip-hop
Because where we're goin' there ain't no stoppin'
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
'Cause we're poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
Poppin', sockin', rockin' puttin' a side of hip-hop
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're the renegades of funk
We're teachers of the funk
And not of empty popping
We're blessed with the force and the sight of electronics
With the bass, and the treble the horns and our vocals
'Cause everytime I pop into the beat we get fresh
There was a time when our music
Was something called the Bay Street beat
People would gather from all around
To get down to the big sound
You had to be a renegade in those days
To take a man to the dance floor
Say jam sucker
Say jam sucker
Say groove sucker
Say groove sucker
Say dance sucker
Say dance sucker
Now move sucker
Now move sucker
[x2]
We're the renegades of funk
Hypocrite? You betcha
dipshit
You got that right, at least.
It's sad that we don't have the kind of social citizenship of many european countries.
They have a much better sense of commonweal than we do. On the other hand, the continental system of justice is no where near as open as the system of common law we inherited from the British. Too bad we couldn't take the best from both systems.
For example, Pat Buchanan's American ideals are waaaaaaaay different than yours or mine.
Tena | Homepage | 08.27.06 - 12:22 am | #
True enough.
Still, you'd think that they'd at least want to get the infant mortality rate down...if only for propaganda purposes. But we're not even in the top 20, IIRC.
The Scroll Troll and the Shuttle were scrubbed on the exact same day. Coincidence?
I think not.
The two Ronnies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
The...The_Two_Ronnies
SCROLL TROLL, we can't heeeaaaaaaaaar you...
Is someone scroll trolling, or are they trying to post a particularly luscious brownie recipe with lots of spaces?
i think that ethnocentrism=ignorence. course i think bigots are stoopid too. and i think i'm drink right now.
It was, why of the industrialized countries is the United states the one national so behind on the social citizenship concept. (national health care/ pensions/ ect.)
Why is it that of the industrialized nations, the US is the one that touts freedom and equality the most and in some ways is the least free and equal nation? I will never live to see a woman president, unless some miracle occurs that allows me to live way over 100. I can assure you that won't happen short of aliens with the ability to alter genes appearing and undoing all the damage I've done to myself.
On the bright side, "This Island Earth" is now on DVD. Perhaps watching it will cheer me up.
Or maybe not...
Well, at least I have popcorn.
I agree, but I think the key to that is WWII. We got the idea that we are invincible and in fact this country did peak soon after the war.
I think that it goes even deeper than that. For the most part, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln et al. are treated as virtual saints in American history, while the constitution is treated like a religious document. I think the mythologizing of the USA in the minds of its own citizens started before it became a superpower.
I will never live to see a woman president, unless some miracle occurs that allows me to live way over 100. I can assure you that won't happen short of aliens with the ability to alter genes appearing and undoing all the damage I've done to myself.
Tena
Tena: I have resigned myself to the fact that I will never live to see a woman as president of the US. This country is too damn sexist. It seems as though it's headed backwards, instead of forwards, as far as the rights of women are concerned.
OK, my alarm's set to go off in less than 4 hours, so I'm off to bed.
'Night, folks.
while the constitution is treated like a religious document.
You mean 'cause we overemphasize the parts we like, and pretend the other parts don't exist?
The scroll trolls were me. I kept trying different configurations. Now I give up. I sent them to the Lebanon Daily Star instead.
I think that it goes even deeper than that. For the most part, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln et al. are treated as virtual saints in American history, while the constitution is treated like a religious document. I think the mythologizing of the USA in the minds of its own citizens started before it became a superpower.
Richard
I agree with WGG - grade school kids in this country are brainwashed into thinking that the US is perfect and you are NOT to criticize it....ever!
you'd think that they'd at least want to get the infant mortality rate down
That's what I don't get. Granted, Bush's sloppiness led to the loss of America's 12th largest city-- but why they didn't see it a golden opportunity to make themselves gods to the people of gulf coast, I'll never understand.
Maybe it has something to do with the way Bubba didn't undo 12 years of Reagan-Bush BS. What, he was afraid they'd try to kick him out of office?
For the most part, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln et al. are treated as virtual saints in American history, while the constitution is treated like a religious document.
For some reason Americans have to inject religion into everything. I think it's why I liked living in England so much more than here. It actually has an official religion and people do go to church there, but they are much more irreverent and cynical about everything. Americans still want to believe life is a Disney movie.
Tena: I have resigned myself to the fact that I will never live to see a woman as president of the US.
Oh, it could happen. All it'd take is for the Dems to run a black man against a female Republican.
Richard, you've got a point -- the halo got painted on Washington et al. pretty early. I know Lincoln was vilified -- he was very unpopular all through the civil war -- not radical enough for some, too radical for others. But he truly did remake this society for the better with the emancipation proclamation.
I wonder if LBJ will ever get any credit for the Great Society, or if that goddam war will always overshadow those accomplishments?
Greg Mitchell can't even keep his lies straight.
I think that it goes even deeper than that. For the most part, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln et al. are treated as virtual saints in American history, while the constitution is treated like a religious document. I think the mythologizing of the USA in the minds of its own citizens started before it became a superpower.
Richard, let me just tell you that Italians told me that they invented literally everything. There is not a nation on earth, and never has been, that did not mythologize itself. For heaven's sake - Rome made gods and goddesses of their rulers.
Every nation does that. It's a human thing. It's the way we are.
I agree with WGG - grade school kids in this country are brainwashed into thinking that the US is perfect and you are NOT to criticize it....ever!
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.27.06 - 12:35 am | #
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yeah. the way history is taught in schools is that the usa started out perfect and has been improving ever since.
Why is it that of the industrialized nations, the US is the one that touts freedom and equality the most
cause the masters want you to believe...
Amerikans purport themselves to be very religious people, but they will always render unto Caesar at the expense of God. In this way, capitalism is like communism, it's just that the sacrifices to State take different forms.
Rome made gods and goddesses of their rulers.
cf. trolls, Bush
Mythologizing is not an American phenomenon. It's a human phenomenon.
This country isn't all bad, guys.
"This Island Earth" is now on DVD.
"Why, with devices, there's nothing we can't do! Blasting canals a mile a minute would be a cinch!"
Russians claim they invented everything to begin with, also.
Bring the National Guard home and put them to work rebuilding the Gulf Coast.
aint gonna happen,(not while president war'wit and his corporate bosses are in power), what we need is Homeland Security to institute a deptparment of rebuilding and protection. even the sheep would get behind this if it gave them some benefit, real or imagined...
yeah, dipshit, great fucking investigative work. too bad you repukes just pull shit out in the open, every freaking day, including that fuckwit of a preswident of yours breaking the law over 800 times since he stole the office. Editor & Publisher, right. How about Cheney covering up his shooting? Hypocrite is right, an it's hung on you and yours.
Oh, it could happen. All it'd take is for the Dems to run a black man against a female Republican.
Phila
The Repukes won't run a woman!
They're the ones who are trying to put us back into the kitchen and bedroom.
aint gonna happen,(not while president war'wit and his corporate bosses are in power), what we need is Homeland Security to institute a deptparment of rebuilding and protection. even the sheep would get behind this if it gave them some benefit, real or imagined...
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we don't have any money any more.
That's what I don't get. Granted, Bush's sloppiness led to the loss of America's 12th largest city-- but why they didn't see it a golden opportunity to make themselves gods to the people of gulf coast, I'll never understand.
If they did it, people would expect them to solve other real problems. They don't want to do that. They want to protect people from made-up or exaggerated threats by given money to Raytheon et al.
I still think that's Reece Shearsmith in the videos.
You mean 'cause we overemphasize the parts we like, and pretend the other parts don't exist?
Kind of like the Bible that way, isn't it?
What gets me are documentaries that describe the American constitution as the greatest expression of democracy ever, without really referring to what's actually in it, or neglecting to mention that huge numbers of people were disenfranchised until the voting rights act of 1965.
namecallling R us.
Noice!
the way Bubba didn't undo 12 years of Reagan-Bush BS. What, he was afraid they'd try to kick him out of office?
nsr
They sure gave it their best shot, didn't they?
Terry C - The Repugs would run a woman they thought they could control in a heartbeat.
They'd run Condi if they thought they could control her completely.
They love their puppet presidents. They don't give a shit about gender or even color, if the person has a chance.
I wonder if LBJ will ever get any credit for the Great Society
Doubt it, but it has more to do with the man's character than the war. See Robt Caro and Richard Goodwin. He was a sociopath.
I still think that's Reece Shearsmith in the videos.
Nah. It's Paul Whitehouse. You were probably very drunk at the time.
Amerikans purport themselves to be very religious people, but they will always render unto Caesar at the expense of God. In this way, capitalism is like communism, it's just that the sacrifices to State take different forms.
James Jesus Rimbaud
99% of the church goers I know are a selfish bunch of self-centered hiprocrits..that is all.
Terry C - The Repugs would run a woman they thought they could control in a heartbeat.
They'd run Condi if they thought they could control her completely.
They love their puppet presidents. They don't give a shit about gender or even color, if the person has a chance.
Tena
As I have said many times, some of the folks in Jebusland don't care how much education Condi has or what party she's with - she's "that Nigrah wench."
Dear me, I just outed my belly button. I shall require a band aid.
my second grade teacher assaulted me because i said i liked the union jack better than the stars and stripes.
other than that she was a pretty nice lady.
wtf, they are both red, white and blue.
and all blood is red.
The Repukes won't run a woman!
They're the ones who are trying to put us back into the kitchen and bedroom.
Terry C, Outright Partisan | 08.27.06 - 12:40 am | #
You're kidding yourself. Look at how they applaud the "diversity" of BushCo's cabinet appointments right now. They'd run a woman candidate the exact same way...find some woman who's well to the right of Joe Lieberman, and act like she's striking a blow for women's rights. The media would enjoy the game, I betcha, and you know which team they'd be on.
I recall with a certain indigestible fondness the comedic pas de deux of Messrs. Barker and Corbet that unfolded each week on the telly so many decades ago.
Barker died earlier this year; he'd retired a good while ago, but made a brief appearance last year in a set of compilation shows.
I'm pretty sure that I saw an American skit show steal 'four candles' almost wholesale...
99% of the church goers I know are a selfish bunch of self-centered hiprocrits..that is all.
1watt Hermit | 08.27.06 - 12:44 am | #
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if you took all the people who fall asleep in church pews on sunday morning and laid them end to end, they'd be a lot more comfortable.
Domestically this government barely exists. These people are the extreme expression of Repug disinterest in domestic issues.
The Repugs have been the foreign affairs party since at least Nixon. But Bush has taken it to the nth degree. The entire federal government here has become just a way for Bush to repay favors. He absolutely couldn't care less whether or not the people he appoints have a fucking clue about their jobs. It's all payback and it shows the Bush Repugs utter contempt for the people of this country.
Later.
pseudonymous in nc:
Well, well. Ta.
They let Mr. Buckley out of the home, yes?
I think I'll follow Vicki to the boudoir. 'Night, all.
Are you a church goer? Eh? Nudge, nudge; know what I mean? "Goer", she said knowingly.
Wouldn't that be a hoot? The party that came to power by picking up the Dixiecrats, nominates one of the classmates of the 4 girls that were blown up in Birmingham in 1963. You'd hear Republican necks popping from cognitive-dissonance whiplash all over the country.
But that seems to be how they keep their constituency-- just might work.
my second grade teacher assaulted me because i said i liked the union jack better than the stars and stripes.
charley
ANY teacher who would have put their hands on either of MY kids for ANY reason would be still picking their hair and teeth out of the floor a week later.
I could see the Rs running someone like, oh, I don't know, a younger Liddy Dole, if they had one. She would have been a scary R candidate -- a good resume, smart but not scary brilliant like Hill, a true-blue R through and through. If they come up with one of those, they'll run her and she'll win. I bet the first woman president will be an R.
Olaf glad and big
half of those are used car & insurance salesmen.
Can you imagine ABC or Fox producing a comedy series making fun of the most jingoistic of the American exceptionalists?
The Fast Show is mostly about class. (As is most British comedy.) And The Fast Show was, to some extent, the heir of the Ronnies.
There was a surprisingly subversive edge to the Ronnies, too, in spite of their being considered cuddly evening fare. Especially early on, when they worked with Frost.
That's what I don't get. Granted, Bush's sloppiness led to the loss of America's 12th largest city-- but why they didn't see it a golden opportunity to make themselves gods to the people of gulf coast, I'll never understand.
What if they saw it as an opportunity to prove that a large Federal government was exactly what it appeared to be during the Katrina mess -- overpriced, uncoordinated, inept, arrogant, apathetic, stupid, and careless? Hasn't this been the goal of this administration's Big Business buddies?
if you took all the people who fall asleep in church pews on sunday morning and laid them end to end, they'd be a lot more comfortable.
Olaf glad and big
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WGiKP...owan%
20atkinson
overpriced, uncoordinated, inept, arrogant, apathetic, stupid, and careless? Hasn't this been the goal of this administration's Big Business buddies?
notpie |
Well it certainly worked out that way. But I truly believe that a good part of even what you're talking about isn't so much a conspiracy to make government look bad as it is really bad government from people who do not give one shit.
Isn't he wonderful. I do love the Brits.
I bet the first woman president will be an R.
strawhat
I hope I'm long dead and my descendants have left the country by then.
and, oh, yes, Late to the Party.
Sheets.
The final Rowley Birkin sketch they did (in 'The Very Last Fast Show') was quite touching. It's not on YouTube, but it'll probably end up there. Johnny Depp was a huge fan, and turned up for that last episode, getting fitted out by the 'Suits You, Sir' men among other roles.
To me, he's the embodiment of the Daily Telegraph letters page: someone who got left behind by the world in about 1947.
And the hallmark of American imperial exceptionalism is that it's born of ignorance. One thing you can't say about the British Empire types. Those people were paternalistic and chauvinistic and misguided for sure, but they spent enough time in their colonial outposts.
I'm sure that there are still a few in HK that Tom TDL encounters.
To me, he's the embodiment of the Daily Telegraph letters page: someone who got left behind by the world in about 1947.
pseudonymous in nc
The Major on "Fawlty Towers" is another one.
I truly believe that a good part of even what you're talking about isn't so much a conspiracy to make government look bad as it is really bad government from people who do not give one shit.
Tena
Some part of me wants to believe that they are only pretending to be as stupid as they seem to be.
I guess I have a hard time believing that they can be as stupid as they appear and still manage to do things like use silverware and indoor plumbing.
After America, no own can ever doubt that democracy is a viable, perhaps the best, form of government.
For thousands of years men debated and flirted with democracy.
America proved it could work.
In Abe Lincoln, America produced the first world leader that was an authentic comedian.
Always had a perfect joke or story for everything.
World history has never seen anything like it.
America produced the first viable constitution for a large territory.
America showed the world that empire and freedom are not mutually exclusive.
Hoffman riding down the hill on his bicycle in 1945.
nsr
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Those were the days.
'bill' proved that he is full of shit.
Anyone see the neocons hero Mark Steyn in Limbaugh's chair the other night? He made about as much sense as Rowley Birkin. Read this.
http://www.freakinliberals.com/index.asp
Haha, as of 12:56 AM CST, someone added the following to the wiki on this comedian:
"In August 2006, an extremely large Internet audience got exposed to Rowley Birkin after the famous blogger Atrios posted videos of him on Youtube."
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