HULK SMASHED
ME!
Urp?
here
NYT on Big Time
At the height of his influence in the Bush White House two years ago, Mr. Cheney stepped into the Oval Office early one June evening and raised an alarm about an agreement that American negotiators were about to sign in Beijing.
The negotiators, largely from the State Department, were trying to entice North Korea to sign a document outlining the steps for resolving the standoff over the country’s nuclear weapons. But it lacked the tough language on disarmament that North Korea had rejected and that Mr. Cheney knew Mr. Bush wanted.
With Colin L. Powell, then the secretary of state, and his deputy, Richard Armitage, at a black-tie dinner where they could not be easily reached on secure telephones, Mr. Cheney “declared this thing a loser,” said a former senior official involved in the discussions that night.
While Mr. Powell and Mr. Armitage were still eating, Mr. Bush sent new instructions to the negotiators in Beijing — through the National Security Council, rather than the State Department — that essentially killed the deal. “Powell and Armitage were not happy,” one official said. “But it was too late.”
Mouse make Hulk angry.
Hulk smash mouse!
Big Time need Scooter
NYT -- Mr. Cheney’s associates say the forced departure last fall of Mr. Libby, known as Scooter, was particularly severe. As Mr. Cheney’s chief of staff, Mr. Libby served as the vice president’s eyes and ears around Washington, working the bureaucratic machinery deftly and choking off ideas Mr. Cheney opposed before they rose to the Oval Office. “Scooter was a big loss,” Mr. Feith said.
Fuck the mouse.
It's time to bring back Rambo.
Huffington Post has a thread that Bush says he is confident the Dems will not win the mid terms. I guess if you control the voting machines!
And he intends to bring back his social security theft policy. Fuck, he is desperate to get his greedy hands on that money.
Assrocket
The Clinton Truth Squad is out in force, and it's not just ABC they're keeping an eye on. This morning's New York Times included the following correction, which appeared in record time, no doubt due to the Truth Squad's efforts:
... "It did not conclude that the scandal distracted the Clinton administration from the terrorist threat."
As I wrote yesterday, I wouldn't care about this--nor, I suppose, would the Democrats--but for the fact that the Democrats are running on a platform of returning to the terrorism policies of the Clinton administration, which, whether through distraction, miscalculation, or sheer indifference, were inept.
ME!
WalterNeff
YOU!!!
lots of busy lawers monday morning!!!
Can't Webb just call it a "docudrama"?
"Nancy Reagan Objects to Campaign Ad"
http://www.rawstory.com/
showarti...FD8K0VP200.html
Is ABC still doing the we haven't finished editing yet? Why did they decline to provide a screening to some of the players who requested a screening?
ME!
WalterNeff
YOU!!!
rorschach |
THEM!
You know the whole problem with this PT 9/11 fiasco is that a subject as sensitive and complicated as what events and/or policies led to the attack cannot EVER be shown in a docudrama format. If you can't do a decent documentary, don't bother.
sdf
sdf to the white courtesy telephone
Huffington Post has a thread that Bush says he is confident the Dems will not win the mid terms. I guess if you control the voting machines!
He (Rove) also thinks they've found the magic formula in the debate over legislation to okay his secret-spying program which will paint all Democrats as "weak on terrorism."
He may be right, but things are coming unraveled pretty quickly on his end, too.
It won't matter who writes Iger. When these lies air, its time to go medieval on Disney. Without visiting the Disney castle, of course.
You know, Maus likely has every big law firm all conflicted out already.
returning to the terrorism policies of the Clinton administration, which, whether through distraction, miscalculation, or sheer indifference, were inept.
P O'Neill | Homepage | 09.09.06 - 4:54 pm | #
does he mean the way clinton had a cabinet level anti-terror czar, daily breifings, captured the wtc bombers and foiled the millenium plot?
yeah, pretty inept.
Democrats are running on a platform of returning to the terrorism policies of the Clinton administration, which, whether through distraction, miscalculation, or sheer indifference, were inept.
Mr. Pot, may I present Mr. Kettle?
Huffington Post has a thread that Bush says he is confident the Dems will not win the mid terms. I guess if you control the voting machines!
And he intends to bring back his social security theft policy. Fuck, he is desperate to get his greedy hands on that money.
When you have a dem party that spends more time attacking bloggers and primary dem voters than it does the GOP, it would not surprise me one bit to see Bush able to prevail and phase out social security next year...with Joe Lieberman's help, of course.
I almost expect it, sorry to say.
You know, Maus likely has every big law firm all conflicted out already.
Bjorn
the ABC lawers must be going nuts right now. And still Iger is going on airing it?
If a man whose wife dies is called a widower, shouldn't Beug be said to have been widowered?
One would think that this letter would be enough to cause deep shame to Disney and ABC.
One would think.
does he mean the way clinton had a cabinet level anti-terror czar, daily breifings, captured the wtc bombers and foiled the millenium plot?
No, he means like in the documentary where Clinton told the CIA not to dare hurt bin laden...to let him get away.
AmericaBlog has seen it!!!
Defamatory Sandy Berger scene in 9/11 show is THE culmination of the entire first half, it is IMPOSSIBLE to edit it out
by John in DC - 9/09/2006 04:33:00 PM
Okay, I just watched the Sandy Berger scene. It is beyond defamatory. The reports you've read do not do it justice.
We are 1 hour 54 minutes into the film, it is the culmination of the entire first two hours of the film. CIA agents on the ground with Commander Massoud have found bin Laden. They have him pin-pointed in a house. They are looking at the house with binoculars. They are on the phone with the CIA, that has patched in Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger. Berger, like a bumbling ass, sits there, looking every which way, refusing to give them clearance to grab bin Laden who is in their literal grasp. The woman at the CIA has to lecture Berger about how intelligence works, like he's some kind of moron. Berger literally looks like a deer caught in the headlights. He's clueless, an idiot, a moron, unfit to serve in any public office - hell, I wouldn't hire the guy to mow my lawn. After a very long pause, the agents are begging Berger to take some responsibility, stop being such a wuss, stop trying to cover his chicken-shit ass, you see Berger reach forward and the phone line goes dead. Clearly Berger has ended the call. Osama gets away. And Sandy Berger is personally responsible for killing 3,000 Americans and bringing down the World Trade Center twin towers.
Not only is this scene FAR MORE defamatory than any review I've seen to date, this is THE KEY SCENE of the entire first half of the movie. You can't cut it, or a good portion of the movie just makes no sense. But Disney/ABC can't leave the scene is because it simply did not happen. CIA agents weren't on the ground, they weren't with Massoud, nobody had bin Laden in their grasp, and Berger never refused to give the order to get the guy.
The entire culmination of the first half of the show is one big fat lie. This isn't just a small scene with a small error. It's THE scene and it NEVER HAPPENED AT ALL.
Disney/ABC took a national tragedy and turned it into their own personal soap opera. If this thing airs, Disney and ABC are going to see the kind of campaign that they have never seen before. If they thought the past week has been hell, just wait for the next seven weeks leading up to the election when we take them on legislatively, legally, and in the public sphere for abusing the memory of 3,000 dead Americans.
it would not surprise me one bit to see Bush able to prevail and phase out social security next year...with Joe Lieberman's help, of course.
Look, if that was a non-starter back when it was a damned struggle to fight anything this administration wanted to do, I fail to see how it can become a winning idea now.
And what do y'all expect Bush and Rove to say - "uh we know we're going to lose." ?
If a man whose wife dies is called a widower, shouldn't Beug be said to have been widowered?
Moe Szyslak
if a chef is called a baster, shouldn't the turkey be called a bastered?
So by the time this is aired what's it going to look like.
And who's going to be watching it after all this controversy?
I'm beginning to get a bad *you've been had* feeling about this.
That we're all being played for suckers.
I hope Robert Jeffers isn't here -
it's snowing here again.
No, he means like in the documentary where Clinton told the CIA not to dare hurt bin laden...to let him get away.
db | 09.09.06 - 5:00 pm | #
is that anything like the documentary about jesus where the pharisees carried machine guns and sung in four part harmonies?
Bush is going to run on terror, TERROR and EVEN MORE TERROR!
Then, if he wins, steal the social security money. Anyone who earns less than $250,000 a year, and votes for him is an idiot.
Plum-- where are you watching this?
Is that the same John Beug who has given thousands and thousands of dollars to Democrats, and only Democrats over the years.
if a chef is called a baster, shouldn't the turkey be called a bastered?
dirk gently, pacofascist | 09.09.06 - 5:02 pm | #
And what if he's a Master Chef?
if a chef is called a baster, shouldn't the turkey be called a bastered?
dirk gently, pacofascist | 09.09.06 - 5:02 pm | #
And what if he's a Master Chef?
I'm beginning to get a bad *you've been had* feeling about this.
That we're all being played for suckers.
pie
Huh?
Then, if he wins, steal the social security money.
If he wins what?
Is today Talk Like An Authoritarian Day, or is that on Monday this year?
If he wins what?
pie |
The mid terms.
Huh?
That the controversy is designed to help add to the viewership because people will be curious.
Plum-- where are you watching this?
Moe Szyslak
not me! IT's AmericaBlog who is watching it RIGHT NOW and is blogging it
http://americablog.blogspot.com/
MOE! i heard you got your canadian residency??? FREE HEALTHCARE??? Yes! We save a sane american
I fail to see how it can become a winning idea now.
you mean like that crazy idea of invading iraq? these guys don't give up. they just keep coming back, waiting for the guard to be let down.
And what if he's a Master Chef?
i was never very good at catching fish, but was always quite skilled at putting the bait on the hook. what does that make me?
Is that the same John Beug who has given thousands and thousands of dollars to Democrats, and only Democrats over the years.
dipshit
And this is any of anyone's business because?...
look asshole, anyone in this country is free to make contributions that are legal to any fucking party or candidate he or she chooses. It has nothing whatsoever to do with anything else - except to Repugs who literally politicize every fucking thing including taking a shit.
Is that the same John Beug who has given thousands and thousands of dollars to Democrats, and only Democrats over the years.
Yes, that negates the fact that his wife was killed.
Too bad it wasn't you, motherfucker.
MOE! i heard you got your canadian residency??? FREE HEALTHCARE???
No, Plum. I've been given a work permit, and just about the same day, a job. They gave me health care the day I applied for residency. The final landed immigrant thing might take a few more months.
Canada is being very good to me.
Bush is going to run on terror, TERROR and EVEN MORE TERROR!
they are only terrorists if we are terrified.
personally, terrorism is the least of my worries.
The final landed immigrant thing might take a few more months.
Moe Szyslak
do you know the owrds to Oh Canada yet 
Canada is being very good to me.
Got a vacant couch?
Oh, and bowls for six cats... and a rabbit...
pie- Oh, I see what you're saying now.
I don't care, I really don't. What would you have the people misportrayed, or the rest of us do - nothing?
Canada is being very good to me.
Moe Szyslak
we like being good to good americans who wants to escape a fascist regime
The mid terms.
Well, as I posted before he refused to meet with the Big 3 in MI because the "idea of a meeting had gotten mired in politics."
Jayzus Christina. Of all the stupid crap I've ever heard from him, this ranks about halfway.
It's because the asshole and the rest of his minions don't have a clue what to do about it. And they don't care.
Worst. President. Ever.
BTW, if you're wondering what to get me for Xmas...!
Canada is being very good to me.
Moe Szyslak
if you guys would turn up the thermostat i'd come join ya, eh?
do you know the owrds to Oh Canada yet
plum p
Not all of them, but I do know that it's called O Canada, so I've got you beat there.
dipshit - you know, you pinhead, Tom Delay's lawyer in Texas is a Democrat who gives heavily to Democrats.
And that is a problem why?
Didn't seem to bother Tom.
personally, terrorism is the least of my worries.
dirk gently
like the gasoline and heathing bills maybe?
And what if he's a Master Chef?
i was never very good at catching fish, but was always quite skilled at putting the bait on the hook. what does that make me?
dirk gently, pacofascist | 09.09.06 - 5:08 pm | #
When I was building my sailboat, the nice man who sold me the mast gave me a coupon I could send in for a $50 rebate. He was quite the...
Repost for Tena
"Ok mombitchfromhell,
whatever you say darlin'. I guess I will not address comments to you unless you address me directly, dear.
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This is getting stupid. All I did was ask one person not to use a word I really don't like. He could have said he would still use it. That would be ok. You can use all the words you want, I don't care. I have a right to ask. But, in response to my request of billy, you jump in with a nyah nyah, I'll use any word I want. I wasn't talking to you. I never said you couldn't use any word you wanted. Say whatever, whenever.
mom-akabitchfromhell | 09.09.06 - 5:04 pm |
Tena, in a rational world, Bush would never have made it to the WH. And certainly not twice.
There's nothing that cocksucker wants more than to screw 100s of millions of people out of SS retirement income. It's better than executing people! Or blowing up frogs.
This is getting stupid.
No shit, honey. Knock off the "board nanny" routine already...
Not all of them, but I do know that it's called O Canada, so I've got you beat there.
Moe Szyslak
well...we don't sing it that much in Québec! And can Igniatieff fuck off back to Havard please?
Is that the same John Beug who has given thousands and thousands of dollars to Democrats, and only Democrats over the years.
$6,000 over 15 years? Most of it pre-'97? Dude, you're reaching.
like the gasoline and heathing bills maybe?
plum p | Homepage | 09.09.06 - 5:12 pm | #
healthcare, the destruction of american democracy.
heathing is free. i've been a heathen for years.
mom-akabitchfromhell | 09.09.06 - 5:04 pm |
mom-akabitchfromhell | 09.09.06 - 5:12 pm | #
Best to leave last thread's quarrels on the last thread, in my humble opinion.
mom-akabitchfromhell | 09.09.06 - 5:04 pm |
mom-akabitchfromhell | 09.09.06 - 5:12 pm | #
Best to leave last thread's quarrels on the last thread, in my humble opinion.
if you guys would turn up the thermostat i'd come join ya, eh?
dirk gently
with global warming, the aveverage temp is up 3 degrees (celsius of course) in Canada this year, so in a few years you will get your wish
can Igniatieff fuck off back to Havard please?
plum p
I'm with you there. I've been here longer than him, but nobody's talking about making me Prime Minister. Jeesh.
Ah, Mrs. Moe has computer needs that needed attending to, so I better get on outta here. Later all.
momakabitchfrom hell
then why drag it up here?
I was simply trying to accomodate you there.
Would you have me leave? Have I said anything else to you?
My gosh.
BTW, that new Amazon video downloading thing is apparently a bunch of crap.
My plans to boycott ABC have become more complicated. Our local radio station that has Air America just used ABC news for the 2pm hour. Sometimes we have local people, sometimes AAR and I guess, sometimes ABC. I'll have to contact the local station (oh yes, Clear channel) whether they are the ones contracting with ABC or if it is AAR.
This Clear channel station, KPOJ, is the home for Thom Hartmann who does his Portland and national shows from their studio here. They also have Schultz.
Best to leave last thread's quarrels on the last thread, in my humble opinion.
rorschach
point taken.
Best to leave last thread's quarrels on the last thread, in my humble opinion. - rorschach
And I bleat my sheeplish agreement.
Best to leave last thread's quarrels on the last thread, in my humble opinion.
What happens on the old thread, stays on the old thread.
When I was building my sailboat, the nice man who sold me the mast gave me a coupon I could send in for a $50 rebate. He was quite the...
rorschach |
funny you should mention boats. i knew a fella, had thousands of tour boats. didn't believe in little family size businesses.
he was a mass ...
Dave: horrid guitars!
try these instead
http://www.briansetzer.com/
guita...tar_main17.html
Anyone going to watch Cheney on Timmeh tomorrow morning? I'm kind of curious but don't know if I can bear to watch.
And I bleat my sheeplish agreement.
bo | 09.09.06 - 5:16 pm | #
oh, ewe!
The entire culmination of the first half of the show is one big fat lie. This isn't just a small scene with a small error. It's THE scene and it NEVER HAPPENED AT ALL.
Sure it did. What the heck do you think he stole from the National Archives, stuffed into his pants, and then eventually cut up with scissors at his home?
It was the evidence that he is the one responsible. Read Michael Scheurer's account of the events.
Bush is obsessed with taking the social security money. He was running on this issue back in the 70s. He told anybody that would listen the programme would be bust by the 80s.
Well it still survives. And if you believe that Bushco is really all about the money, then that is the their great goal.
Notre Dame is now beating Penn State 20-0.
Sure it did. What the heck do you think he stole from the National Archives, stuffed into his pants, and then eventually cut up with scissors at his home?
copies?
What the heck do you think he stole from the National Archives, stuffed into his pants, and then eventually cut up with scissors at his home?
Wow. Just... wow.
I'm beginning to get a bad *you've been had* feeling about this.
That we're all being played for suckers.
pie
In the end, more people will know the details of the bogus parts than would have if the show had gone on to no fanfare. And, bullshit or no, like the man said, "At least we got it out there"
It was the evidence that he is the one responsible. Read Michael Scheurer's account of the events.
You obviously have a blockage in a carotid artery. Go get that fixed.
I'm kind of curious but don't know if I can bear to watch.
Glad i'm not the only one who can't stand to even look at the top crooks in office anymore. Even the blogs are hard to stomache given all the sewer flows being let loose....
with my last post I finally realize that I am indelibly stupid and beyond help. I am going to end it all now. The Fleet's applicator is in my ear as I type. Goodbye forever.
What would you have the people misportrayed, or the rest of us do - nothing?
Noooooooo.
I'm just wondering (since how could they possibly edit it to an acceptable degree?) what this movie will actually look like.
All I know is I won't watch it. The whole thing is the worst kind of exploitation when feelings are raw.
Very raw. And Bush was the president. No matter what they say about Clinton, Clinton would not have ignored "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US."
And everyone knows it, whether they admit it or not.
Remember that, Karl.
Then remember Katrina, Karl.
You lose.
Well it still survives. And if you believe that Bushco is really all about the money, then that is the their great goal.
sally
I don't doubt that for a second, and I can see where it could come to pass if they steal another election, but I do think there will be payback if they do.
John Bolton just got deepsixed. Not even the Repugs were willing to gut SS at the start of Bush's second term because people made it clear they were mad as hell.
I don't know - if they steal another one, I have no idea what will happen. But if they win the mid-terms, that is a clear steal at this point.
just saw a commercial for 'all the kings men' - sean penn. looks interesting.
Well at least we know the official Rovian troll meme is that anyone who points out the movie is full of grossly misleading fabrications is too afraid and partisan to face up to 9/11 being all Clinton's fault even though Bush had been running the country and ignoring the warnings for 9 months.
ABC have already sold it to the BBC.
Here in the UK the first one has already gone out. The second one goes out on Sunday night. I will not watch it.
with my last post I finally realize that I am indelibly stupid and beyond help. I am going to end it all now. The Fleet's applicator is in my ear as I type. Goodbye forever.
dipshit
good riddance, need a gun to make yourself go away? Silly me, you must already have dozens of illegal guns!
Wow. Just... wow. dave™©
Trollie knows what he said is a lie - he's just trying to get a rise.
Trollie knows what he said is a lie - he's just trying to get a rise.
JeffCO |
i think ... i think it moved.
pie - No, I do see your point.
I also believe the majority of Americans won't watch the damn thing anyway. Football. It rulez.
And since the film is reported to be all but unwatchable, there's a good chance that some of those who tune in out of curiosity will tune out in about 5 hot minutes.
Jeez, just when I was thinking things might be turning our way.
The cynicism the Bush years have engendered is rock hard and very discouraging at times.
he was a mass ...
dirk gently, pacifascist | 09.09.06 - 5:16 pm | #
When I worked as the groundskeeper at a baseball field, I had to cover the whole thing with tarps when it rained one night.
Unfortunately, the next day, the sun came out, and the moths had descended upon them en masse and devoured them...
In the end, more people will know the details of the bogus parts than would have if the show had gone on to no fanfare.
Right. I already said that earlier. I didn't mean we as in we on the blogs. But the MSM has been talking about this.
I just don't want to see more people watching because of the controversy just for the ratings.
Because they will be affected by the dramatics.
Mississippi State is 0-2 for the year. The worst thing is that they have not yet scored a single point.
just saw a commercial for 'all the kings men' - sean penn. looks interesting.
dirk gently, pacifascist | 09.09.06 - 5:21 pm | #
That it does. I hope they pull it off, because that is one of the greatest American novels ever.
Distraction.
These threads otherwise might have been filled the last few days with the revelations in the Senate reports, and the fact that we now know Valerie was working on Iraq, not Iran.
Can we file complaints with the FCC?
The Extremist Rantings Of A Mainstream Progressive
Here is proof that Republicans are against any kind of sexual pleasure:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/...y-911-
show.html
It's a plot, I tell ya!
I just don't want to see more people watching because of the controversy just for the ratings.
Against Sunday Night Football's debut and the season premiere of the Simpsons?
Doubtful.
That said, I still think things have turned our way.
Jeez, just when I was thinking things might be turning our way.
People are fired up for a lot of reasons. So it's already turned.
Our way?
I'd prefer to think that it's what's better for all of us.
Distraction.
These threads otherwise might have been filled the last few days with the revelations in the Senate reports, and the fact that we now know Valerie was working on Iraq, not Iran.
ErinPDX | 09.09.06 - 5:26 pm | #
I blame the sheeple!
Jesus Fuckin Christ this is outrageous.........
Disney/ABC Highlighting Faked Scenes In Ads For 9/11 Terror Porn
by Hunter
Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:22:44 PM PDT
Daily Kos diarist STOP George has uploaded one of the foreign trailers for the Disney/ABC conservative fan fiction to YouTube, and the advertisement makes it very clear just what sort of Limbaugh-style political porn this thing was intended to be. Featured prominently? The words: "OFFICIAL TRUE STORY".
http://www.dailykos.com/
Unfortunately, the next day, the sun came out, and the moths had descended upon them en masse and devoured them...
rorschach
one time the chimp tried to give a speech w/o a teleprompter or a pre-screened audience. whenever i tried to stall for time with a well placed "er.." the crowd would jump in ahead of him.
he really hated those massed "er" beaters.
and the fact that we now know Valerie was working on Iraq, not Iran.
We already knew that.
So who's going to make a movie about that?
searching for any brouhaha about Paths to 9/11 in the british press and there's not much. It's airing on the BBC for fucks sake! Disappointing
Our way?
I'd prefer to think that it's what's better for all of us.
pie
Ok.
I'll see y'all later. I'm misunderstood with every post it seems.
Our way, pie, I should think you'd know by now, is the same thing as what is best. At least I have always thought that was what all of us here were working for.
Later bats.
the simultaneous broadcast to an audience of hundreds of millions.... we predict a black day for America.... THE OFFICIAL TRUE STORY..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
v=aHgbeJu1WGk
It was the evidence that he is the one responsible. Read Michael Scheurer's account of the events.
dipshit
Well of course he was. He's Jewish, after all.
Right?
G_d what an unbelievable idiot. Little wizened toady, crouched in front of a keyboard with his instructions crayoned in great big letters. The 30%.
Jesus.
he really hated those massed "er" beaters.
dirk gently, pacifascist
If you were a sarcastic head of the house and you liked to egg people on, would you be a Master baiter?
The cynicism the Bush years have engendered is rock hard and very discouraging at times.
The good news is much of the cynicism is directed against the policies the Bush conservatives have been pushing.
I do wonder about these polling results.
http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/
Against Sunday Night Football's debut and the season premiere of the Simpsons?
Doubtful.
dave™©
VERY good point. Nobody will watch apart the usual bunch of Clinton haters and the trolls
he really hated those massed "er" beaters.
dirk gently, pacifascist | 09.09.06 - 5:29 pm | #
I can certainly understand that.
Reminds me of another shitty job I had when I was a teen, re-roofing houses. We used hot tar, and to keep it from clumping, I'd have to stir it, or beat it as though it were eggs or cake batter.
Family business, so I was effective my ma's employee.
Interestingly, on our phone bank today I ran into a retired oil co. person who was spouting the typical Thuglican line, and threw in the Disney movie at the end. But at one point he assured me that the price of gas was going to be down for the election.
For the most part he just talked over anything I said, that shut your ears and blab type, altho not unpleasant, just didactic. I was quite intrigued with his sure knowledge that the election would be held with gas prices down. Lots of retire oil execs in the area, of course, it's rural and cheap but not so far from Dallas, OkCity and Ft. Worth.
Later bats.
Tena |
later bats? you mean bats that will arrive in the future?
i just don't understand you, tena.
Let ABC do a movie about Bush on the day of 9/11 running around the country shitting his pants.
Let's get his pants in for forensic examination, to see what the quality of his shit was. Was it shit fear?
the movie is full of grossly misleading fabrications
And if you complain about it, you are simultaneously (1) trying to avoid blaming Clinton exclusively for the worst catastrophe ever and (2) a silly stupid m00n84+ for not realizing that there's plenty of blame to go round and all the movie does is give Clinton his fair share.
If this makes sense to you, you are a dipshit. Who, by the way, should maybe explain why he's lying about Berger again, after being corrected numerous times.
It's airing on the BBC for fucks sake! Disappointing
How many people in the British Isles think Saddam had anything to do with 9/11?
heh.
(dirk--I can't believe we've gotten away with these awful jokes without a single groan!)
Michael Scheuer was leader of the CIA team tasked to take out Bin Laden, which both Berger and Clarke are lying about when they said that situation never happened.
Scheuer, noted Bush critic, calls Berger and Clarke out on their lies in this Op-ED article.
Be sure to read the last sentence. There's little wonder why the Clintonistas and the fascists on the left are upset about the movie. It uncovers the truth about the Clinton lies and malfeasance.
These 3000Americans should never have died. Their blood is on Clinton's hands.
Family business, so I was effective my ma's employee.
rorschach | Homepage | 09.09.06 - 5:31 pm | #
then there was the catholic group that would gather after the midnight service and wager on which nun's habit was most likely to get ripped.
Ah...I see jack 'n his box of nyms pulled a double shift today.
If this makes sense to you, you are a dipshit. Who, by the way, should maybe explain why he's lying about Berger again, after being corrected numerous times.
CowAnotherCow |
Whoa...hold on there feller...being a dipshit is a bad thing?
Our way, pie, I should think you'd know by now, is the same thing as what is best. At least I have always thought that was what all of us here were working for.
Tena, I must be the one being misunderstood, although I will say that no one has the "best" answer for anything.
But it's certainly better than the republican version.
"Be sure to read the last sentence. There's little wonder why the Clintonistas and the fascists on the left are upset about the movie. It uncovers the truth about the Clinton lies and malfeasance."
Uh, the writer/producers admitted that they made the Berger scene up.
And let's not forget: "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within U.S."
Bush threw that one away and trotted off to clear some fake brush.
Scheuer, noted Bush critic, calls Berger and Clarke out on their lies in this Op-ED article.
And you believe his opinion, why?
Brave King Georgie ran away, he ran away, brave King Georgie ran away on 9/11 day....
btw, jack daniels. in case anyone is interested.
he really hated those massed "er" beaters.
dirk gently, pacifascist | 09.09.06 - 5:29 pm | #
My dog used to chase cars and actually try to bite the tires. When he caught them, he'd usually end up quite a mess.
(dirk--I can't believe we've gotten away with these awful jokes without a single groan!)
rorschach
Since you asked for it: *single groan*
Take the ABC poll at KATU.
Do you plan on watching 'The Path to 9/11'
http://www.katu.com/news/
your_tu...turn_060908.asp
Only 87% have decided not to watch this DocuDrama so far. Which shows the majority of Americans approve of the DocuDrama and support the President.
That "editorial" is in the Washington Times, by the way.
Maybe it was actually written by Reverend Moon. Maybe he's using a "pen name."
Life is unfair:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...DltBHNlYwM3MTY-
sheets
jOWLs
Scheuer, noted Bush critic, calls Berger and Clarke out on their lies in this Op-ED article.
And you believe his opinion, why?
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It's not his opinion. He was there.
...but...but...but noted gay outer John Avarosis said it didn't happen
This thing is a big waste of time for Mr Atrios and all the rest of us.
It has all the signs of a dead end for the Dems. Obsession with who said what in Washington, frantic protection of Bill Clinton, disconnected from any actual event. Just people arguing about what they argued back then.
On top of that, the internet wing of the liberals and Democrats whipped up in media criticism, the lowest form of journalism.
It's a joke, please stop it.
Okay, so now we're finally involved as real-life players, in that science fiction novel that we've read forever.
The kids favorite for generations with Mikey Mouse, now serves the interest of the radical rightwing.
That this is being exploited as it is, is nothing less than that horrific futuristic novel that you read as a teenager.
It has come to pass.
We are the characters in that strange, unsettling sci-fi novel.