I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hello, I must be going...
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King of the hill!
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or coming
Truly awesome.
Shes a liberal, and her screeching means nothing to me. I would rather enjoy some country music from the heartland, but not the Dixie Bitches. They hate the USA.
(*whistles nonchalantly*)
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howdy, all.
I don't understand, if some one or some body's stick up for the constitution, the wingnuts hate them.
howdy, Sarah D.,
Long time no see.
Good Evening, Sarah Deere.
hey, Uncle, ShawK. 
I wish everyone here could be at ACL fest!
Aimee is awesome. I especially recommend Thievery Corporation and The Eels this year.
I really need to go watch the rest of the gator/vol game.
I really need to go watch the rest of the gator/vol game.
This piece on Manly Manliness in the NRO made me laugh so hard, I hurt myself.
I needed a good guffaw today. This'll do it for anyone:
http://www.nationalreview.com/
in...00604170813.asp
melior, nipple fan | 09.16.06 - 10:29 pm | #
are you an Austin local?
(lost 45 to 0 TX)and they are in the godforsaken Houston zone. I could go for a doctorate, but at 45, what program would admit me?
Hellkitty | 09.16.06 - 10:10 pm |
More than you think. It's not really about the schools admitting you, after all if you get get good test scores and have a good grades and can pay for it, most universities should be quite happy to have you.
It's what happens in the 'real' world after that can be problematic.
are you an Austin local?
Hellkitty
Hell yeah!
"I wish everyone here could be at ACL fest!"
I won't explain to keep things short, but I I have been working with servers way too long.
Hellkitty, writing a book sounds like an idea. Maybe I will tey it soetime 
(lost 45 to 0 TX)
But the Rice MOB always wins halftime!
My kick lately has been Curve (I'm trapped in 1992)--one of those bands I've heard of, but never bothered to try out.
I can't get enough of "Fait Accompli".
I recently tried to program my drum machine to get just that beat, I was so taken with the tune.
Most liberal men are ass pirates.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.16.06 - 10:30 pm | #
ah, there's the rub...the you can afford it part. I would need a teaching stipend and the only one that offers a good one is Rice. I dislike UT's attitude "we have 2000 applicants a year for this program but we only choose three" well lahtefuckingdah!
Shaw Kenawe
"Guns are less manly than swords" does it for me.
Austin City Limits (wish you were here).
Check out the downloads and streaming though, it's pretty well done. No messing with parking either.
Hell yeah!
melior, nipple fan | 09.16.06 - 10:31 pm | #
Wimberley.
We prefer 'booty bandits'...
i'd never heard this song with a political ear before, but man is it perfect in that context right now.
I've come to crush your bones
I've come to make you feel old
I've come to mess with your head
'Cause it'll make you feel good
I've come to make you good
All right!
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.16.06 - 10:30 pm | #
ah, there's the rub...the you can afford it part. I would need a teaching stipend and the only one that offers a good one is Rice. I dislike UT's attitude "we have 2000 applicants a year for this program but we only choose three" well lahtefuckingdah!
Hellkitty | 09.16.06 - 10:33 pm |
What, you don't want to go into massive debt?!
Work will probably pay for my Masters, but I have to pay class by class and then get compensated, which sucks. So I'm intending to take the GRE this fall, apply (which is an expensive process in and of itself) and save up for first class, hopefully next fall. I don't want to take out a loan.
Most liberal men supported the Clinton agenda of faggotizing our women and girls, making them into whores.
Uncle Smokes, see: and I am listening to Frank do an a very nice version of AUTUMN LEAVES. . . .
Speaking of ass...
I'll pay up to ten dollars for a picture of Dr. Helen's brown-eye.
Grrrr, tiger.
I went ahead and took the door knob off the door. Maintenance can replace it on Monday. Problem solved...
Wimberley.
Hellkitty
Cool! That's close enough to be a part of this wonderful blue dot in the middle of a reactionary red state.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.16.06 - 10:36 pm | #
good on you! what are you studying?
DWD, I seem to recall that you have a successful career as an author already
or was I just dreaming?
Arrrr, shave his belly with a rusty razor early in th' morn, says I!
Cool! That's close enough to be a part of this wonderful blue dot in the middle of a reactionary red state.
melior | 09.16.06 - 10:37 pm | #
you wouldn't believe how many blue dots there are up in my neck of the woods.
Anyone used to cloudwatch in balitmore?
Who knew after that Til Tuesday shit that Aimee Mann was actually really talented?
Uncle Smokes, see: and I am listening to Frank do an a very nice version of AUTUMN LEAVES. . . .
DWD
That's such a hauntingly beautiful song. I first heard it in the final episode of Twin Peaks.
Most liberal men supported the Clinton agenda of faggotizing our women and girls, making them into whores.
The faggot stitch was used in this, naturally. We only do feminist embroidery.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.16.06 - 10:36 pm | #
good on you! what are you studying?
DWD, I seem to recall that you have a successful career as an author already
or was I just dreaming?
Hellkitty | 09.16.06 - 10:38 pm |
Masters of Library Science, specializing in medical librarianship. I'd like at some point to leave the medical librarian field and move over to the social sciences field of librarianship. My B.A. was in history, and if I can survive getting the Mls, I'd like to eventually go for a MA in International relations.
After this is accomplished I will be near retirement age!
For a dead guy, Atrios sure has decent musical taste.
(lost 45 to 0 TX)and they are in the godforsaken Houston zone. I could go for a doctorate, but at 45, what program would admit me?
Hellkitty | 09.16.06 - 10:10 pm |
Silly.
Lots of them.
I don't think age is a barrier in academia.
AIMEE! I love you!
The faggot stitch was used in this, naturally. We only do feminist embroidery.
Echidne of the snakes
Drag Queen Knitting:
Star fit, one, clutch pearls, two.
Arrrr, shave his belly with a rusty razor early in th' morn, says I!
You have a woman's hands!
you wouldn't believe how many blue dots there are up in my neck of the woods.
Hellkitty
Wimberly is kind of an artsy fartsy place, I do believe.
Most liberal men supported the Clinton agenda of faggotizing our women and girls, making them into whores.
"Our women"?
I don't think age is a barrier in academia.
fourlegsgood
Sure enough, my mom got her Masters of Library Science after years of teaching.
Librarians are so cool.
Anyhoo, what's up tonight?
Eddie Izzard is on BBC america.
Most liberal men are ass pirates.
Gary Ruppert
I did do someone in the ass once. But she asked me to.
(And I used a condom. It was fun. I'd do it again.)
Who was the ferryman across the River Styx to the Underworld?
You know, this latest Althouse thing has really pissed me off. That person is really asking for it.
Most liberal men supported the Clinton agenda of faggotizing our women and girls, making them into whores.
Tsk tsk. Where would you be without whores? Not only would you never get laid, you wouldn't even exist.
Who was the ferryman across the River Styx to the Underworld?
Charon.
Don't pay him. Don't even fix a price.
Most liberal men supported the Clinton agenda of faggotizing our women and girls, making them into whores.
"Our women"?
Maybe republican women are really into ass sex.
It would make sense. Republican men are all so ugly women probably would prefer to to see their faces when they're getting porked.
Ok, continuing the trivia from downstairs:
What's the chemical symbol for Potassium?
Bonus for true chemistry geeks:
Why?
Wimberly is kind of an artsy fartsy place, I do believe.
fourlegsgood | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:44 pm | #
there is an element of that, yes. Then there is the subversive element....
Cake or death?
Cake please.
Very well, give him cake!!
Oh, wrong thread, sorry. We were doing trivia downstairs.
ass pirates.
Arr!
I have to concede that the visuals on this particular slur have always made me laugh.
Work will probably pay for my Masters, but I have to pay class by class and then get compensated, which sucks. So I'm intending to take the GRE this fall, apply (which is an expensive process in and of itself) and save up for first class, hopefully next fall. I don't want to take out a loan.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I have to pay $400 for a new Toto Toilet....
Who was the ferryman across the River Styx to the Underworld?
Karin | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:46 pm | #
Charon
You know, this latest Althouse thing has really pissed me off. That person is really asking for it.
Thers
It has saddened me. I didn't realize how bad things are still.
or, perhaps, "our" women...?
You have a woman's hands!
Thers
Thanks, Captain Redbeard Rum!
I love a beard you can lose a badger in.
Ok, continuing the trivia from downstairs:
What's the chemical symbol for Potassium?
Bonus for true chemistry geeks:
Why?
I don't know what it is, but sure the why is just to annoy us.
that's easy, Alexander the Great
Karin | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:43 pm | #
Ok, maybe so. Who owned the horse Toes, and why was he given that name?
Hellkitty | 09.16.06 - 10:45 pm | #
Ok, maybe so. Who owned the horse Toes, and why was he given that name?
Hellkitty
I'm stumped, who?
Potassium is K, from kalium, Latin for potash
It has saddened me. I didn't realize how bad things are still.
That shit she pulled was just really, really vicious. And the way she's trying to position herself as the only real pure feminist on earth is offensive.
What's the chemical symbol for Potassium?
I know that one is K, but don't know why. Did it come from Latin like Plumbum for lead?
Sure enough, my mom got her Masters of Library Science after years of teaching.
Librarians are so cool.
melior | 09.16.06 - 10:44 pm |
My friend helped pay for his sisters Masters in Education. After five years of teaching (elementary) she has realized she does not want to do that. Luckily for her, the Tulsa school disctrict is paying for her Mls, so she now works in the library, working with the teachers on the educational materials.
I think the people at work are beginning to realizes librarians are cool, and can help save your ass when you wait until the last minute to do your papers, can't find articles, and then we sit down with you and in five minutes on a database or two we've found just what you needed.
I'm stumped, who?
Karin | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:49 pm | #
Julius Caesar.
Althouse is a terrible person.
I love a beard you can lose a badger in.
Just don't get any clever ideas -- your foot will fall off.
Hellkitty,
Well, I have a career. Its success is yet to be determined. The Holocaust book continues to garner good reviews and is being used by several high schools now. (That is a good thing) My novel, CHALLENGE, is sort of languishing. It is a good book and pretty well received but I have no idea of how to pull it to the forefront and get some press and such.
"Toto Toilet"?
You know, this latest Althouse thing has really pissed me off. That person is really asking for it.
Thers
Me too. I was very rude about her on Salon this morning.
And from walking all over the Fair, my feet hurt something fierce. That's her fault too.
Symbol for potassium is K
for the Greek word.
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Hi--There''s maybe not so much chat about here. Please tell me what's around
Potassium is K, from kalium, Latin for potash
Buzz Bomb
We have a winner!
Ok, next one:
Name the four ghosts in pac-man. Nicknames are acceptable.
Who was the ferryman across the River Styx to the Underworld?
Charon.
Don't pay him. Don't even fix a price.
Thers | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:46 pm | #
Mona Charon?
Chris DeBurgh?
http://www.youtube.com/results?s...n&
search=Search
You know, this latest Althouse thing has really pissed me off. That person is really asking for it.
Thers
What's that idiot done now? She's really getting to be like Barney Fife.
That shit she pulled was just really, really vicious. And the way she's trying to position herself as the only real pure feminist on earth is offensive.
She's a republican.
I'm sorry, but republicanism (ie, insanity) and feminism are mutually exclusive clubs.
She's a fucking liar.
Althouse is a terrible person.
fourlegsgood
Yeah, and so are those who follow her. And the worst part, in my opinion, is they know and couldn't care less...
Buckeye, an MLS is one of the things I had considered as an advanced degree. I did look into UT's program and it is apparently quite good. I'd just like to figure out how close it is to an MIS degree (they look like kin) as so much of it involves database management.
I should look again....
Continuing the Latin theme, how many parts of Arabia were there according to the Romans? (Bonus points for naming them)
I have to pay $400 for a new Toto Toilet....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:47 pm
Have to?
Name the four ghosts in pac-man. Nicknames are acceptable.
Spooky
Whitey
Booey
Fraidy
I made those up.
Yes, a Toto Toilet. I now know far more about toitie 'throats' than I ever really needed to know. If I must, I will share. Do you need to know that it's Japanese? Or that the crucial bits in American Standard toities are now all made in (say it together) China? Not however the vitreous China part which would make some sense.
Please stop me.
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I have to concede that the visuals on this particular slur have always made me laugh.
Thers
"Avast, we're going to board ye!"
[Brandishing a paddle]
"Arr, yer gonna walk the plank!"
[*IMAGE SCRUBBED FOR CIVILITY*]
With all the friggin' in the riggin', we learn just why Roger is Jolly.
That shit she pulled was just really, really vicious. And the way she's trying to position herself as the only real pure feminist on earth is offensive.
Vicious, true, but also totally against the basic rules of both feminism and human decency. But I was even more angered by the comments threads and the number of truly horrible comments which were enthusiastically cheered. It's as if everybody dug in with a piece from an empty can...
Yeah, and so are those who follow her. And the worst part, in my opinion, is they know and couldn't care less...
Hell, they celebrate their meaness.
Continuing the Latin theme, how many parts of Arabia were there according to the Romans? (Bonus points for naming them)
Karin
Holy crap that's tough.
I'm going to go with "three," and their names were "Larry, Moe, and Curlicus Maximus."
"Trouser Pilot" gives me a giggle, too.
DWD | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:50 pm | #
do you have a literary agent? Isn't that what they are supposed to do?
I have to pay $400 for a new Toto Toilet....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:47 pm
Have to?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
It's frowned on to buy stuff without actually paying. One of the rules.
That shit she pulled was just really, really vicious.
It was nothing but a reprehensible public display of envy over a younger woman's perky points.
It must be horrible to realize your looks are gone and you've neglected your personality for so many years you have nothing left but ugly inside.
Why do people look at Althouse's blog? I mean, I looked at Powerline a few times and found it so offensive and infuriating I never went back. Why read Althouse, unless you're looking to be offended?
Draco, you need to call the emergency room in your area or your sister or your mother right now. I'm worried about you.
Allo, all you Haters on the Far Left!
What's new?
WHAT HAPPENED TO PLUSHY? what's that thing ob your blog 4legs?
Oh come on. No one knows the ghosts in Pac Man?
Neither do I.
4.
Something with Jordan Saudi Arabia and ?? Syria maybe?
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Just don't get any clever ideas -- your foot will fall off.
Thers
Ha! It wasn't long ago that all you'd say was "Thers go 'plop, plop!' Thers go 'plop, plop!'"
Hi--Incog--Would you please call me Christopher in Atlanta?
Is Althouse still going on about that picture of the bloggers with Clinton or is there a fresh outrage?
(I'm sort of principled about going places like that, also I'm lazy, plus you guys sum things up so well)
But I was even more angered by the comments threads and the number of truly horrible comments which were enthusiastically cheered. It's as if everybody dug in with a piece from an empty can...
Just not nice people. At all.
Americans need to get over this bullshit about breasts being dirty.
And just because rethugs are all pervs doesn't mean that everyone else is.
Allo, all you Haters on the Far Left!
What's new?
steve simel
just arrived myself. I've been sleeping since wednesday afternoon, awful cold. What's this boobs controversy about? I'm a bit lost
Why do people look at Althouse's blog? I mean, I looked at Powerline a few times and found it so offensive and infuriating I never went back. Why read Althouse, unless you're looking to be offended?
One goes to places to get the back of friends.
Buckeye, an MLS is one of the things I had considered as an advanced degree. I did look into UT's program and it is apparently quite good. I'd just like to figure out how close it is to an MIS degree (they look like kin) as so much of it involves database management.
I should look again....
Hellkitty | 09.16.06 - 10:53 pm
MLS/MIS can indeed be kin, Michigan has both programs, as do other schools.
I will be doing mine online, I just have to decide 'where' do I want to go and who will have me. And do I want the MLS or the MIS?
I'm going to go with "three," and their names were "Larry, Moe, and Curlicus Maximus."
Excellent guess, because the Romans were big on threes, and correct!
Arabia Deserta (what is now Saudi)
Arabia Petra (rocky Arabia, what is now Jordan)
Arabia Felix (happy Arabia, aka Yemen)
Someone said somethin' about lunatics and Iraq?
Hello--Anyone around?
WHAT HAPPENED TO PLUSHY? what's that thing ob your blog 4legs?
He's out enjoying the evening air.
When he comes in I'll take some plushy pics.
What is that thing on my blog? it's what americans look like to much of the world, thanks to chimpy and his merry band of torturers.
Good evening, Mr. Simels.
We've entered the naughty/silly part of the evening.
Luckily for her, the Tulsa school disctrict is paying for her Mls, so she now works in the library, working with the teachers on the educational materials.
Tee-hee.... My Mummy, Tulsey-born and bred, got her MLS from UCLA in 1968, eventually becoming one of the Regional Childrens Librarians for LAPL. About two days ago I got a note from one of her great friends demanding that we all have a reunion, because they'd just finished marrying off the daughter of one of the Librarians Mummy trained and realised how much they all owed to her.... So, I'm off to the land of LAPL'dom next month - they're all of them deeply strange, but it'll be nice to hear again how much they esteemed her.
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It's frowned on to buy stuff without actually paying. One of the rules.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:56 pm |
For us, but not for Republicans.
Baaaaa! I suck at trivia.
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What is that thing on my blog? it's what americans look like to much of the world, thanks to chimpy and his merry band of torturers.
fourlegsgood
ok, that makes sense
Ha! It wasn't long ago that all you'd say was "Thers go 'plop, plop!' Thers go 'plop, plop!'"
Why do you have a piece of cheese hanging from your nose?
Asia Syria Bithynia Judaea (Palaestina) Galatia Arabia Petraea Lycaonia Aegyptus Lycia Cyrenaicia Pisidia Numidia Pamphylia Africa Cyprus Mauretania Cilicia Baleares (Hispania)
Cappadocia Pontus Armenia Inferior Sophene Osroene Commagene Assyria Mesopotamia Syria
Have I missed any?
Jorge Luis Borges writes of a Chinese encyclopedia that divided animals into
a) those that belong to the Emperor
b) embalmed ones
c) those that are trained
d) suckling pigs
e) mermaids
f) fabulous ones
g) stray dogs
h) those that are included in this classification
i) those that tremble as if they were mad
j) innumerable ones
k) those drawn with a very fine camel's hair brush
l) others
My cat is clearly type f).
"I love a beard you can lose a badger in."
I often marvel at the things I read here, the things I learn, the images I take away.
I mean that.
WHAT HAPPENED TO PLUSHY? what's that thing ob your blog 4legs?
plum p | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 10:57 pm
It's an orc, or what Republicans really look like under their human disguise:
http://veged.ru/forlj/orc.jpg
http://www.celebritywonder.com/
m..._towers_030.jpg
For us, but not for Republicans.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I'm funny that way. You know - somebody sells me something that I need, I pay them. It's kind of whimsical, but the result is that the people I trade with continue to trade with me! Magic!
And I will have my Toto Toity.
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Lion kitty maxx is one of the fabulous ones.
Just came back from seeing "The U.S. vs. John Lennon" ... lately, I had been getting nostalgic for Richard Nixon. Never mind. I'm over it.
The American Library Association (ALA) is a hotbed of anti-American activism. The far left slant of libraries today, who will not purchase Coulter but buy dozens of Chomsky titles with my tax money, has me perturned.
Why do you have a piece of cheese hanging from your nose?
Thers
I have...a cunning plan, as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University; a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
Dr. Crackers,
I grew up in the Los Angeles county libraries...which one did your mom work in? I probably knew her
Echidne--I'm sorry if I bother you. I'm a real pain, no good.
Aimee's great but Til Tuesday had better songs, in my opinion. First album, other than the title song, was pure pop genius.
no! you're scaring me Buckeye! ( i must admit i have mild hallucinations due to all the flu medecine i've been taking the last few days)
My cat is clearly type f).
melior | 09.16.06 - 11:03 pm |
Look up "Chinese Measure Words." That encyclopedic classification will make a lot more sense.
You betcha you're perturned Gary. Perturned upside down and backasswards too...
Arthur's an "L"!
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Please stop me.
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
or, as my mom used to say in moments of frustration: someone take this thing away from me!
I often marvel at the things I read here, the things I learn, the images I take away.
I mean that.
Sarah Deere
Thers and I are indulging in a little Blackadder geekery. It's probably tiresome to witness, but I'm having fun.
Draco, you aren't bothering us, we are worried about you as you aren't making much sense and you are talking about being sick to dying. Do you have a fever?
The American Library Association (ALA) is a hotbed of anti-American activism. The far left slant of libraries today, who will not purchase Coulter but buy dozens of Chomsky titles with my tax money, has me perturned.
Gary Ruppert
You rock, dude.
I have demanded that my local library remove titles of a too far left bent, and they complied. I have had many challenges upheld by the board as they are books which do not present balanced arguments, or have a hidden agenda.
Ok, A little less PhD based trivia:
What was the name of singer who planned to commit suicide 4 years after starting a punk band, and did so?
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Dr. Barmpot - Make sure you get the right Toto, 400 sounds right. Got mine a few months ago for about 450 total. Backorder around here is four months.
Hellkitty, Actually, a literary agent serves as a buffer between the publisher and the author. They present an author's material and if it is accepted, serve as an intermediary between the two.
I have a small publisher with zero dollars for promotion. What I really and truly need is book promotion company. Someone who can present the material to the media, important reviewers, and such.
But they cost a lot of money -something I am not exactly rolling in. (I would certainly be interested in a percentage sharing, but most are not.)
With a small publisher there really is quite a bit of money in royalities - if we could sell some. The novel, for example, offers 30% to the author. (an almost unheard of bunch of money) but it does little good if your sales numbers in the double digits. . . .
I once had this idea of having people promote the books - if they honestly liked them - on their websites. Hell, I could offer a dollar or two for every sale. But no one seems much interested.
It is a problem that I have not found a solution for.
pour little litten!
http://www.dailykitten.com/
Echidne--I'm sorry if I'm any bother.
Echidne--I'm sorry if I bother you. I'm a real pain, no good.
You're not bothering me. But you need to call someone and get help. It's not good to be all alone and feel as much despair as you're clearly doing. Please take the phone and call either your physician, the emergency room, your sister, your mother or a friend or a neighbor.
The American Library Association (ALA) is a hotbed of anti-American activism. The far left slant of libraries today, who will not purchase Coulter but buy dozens of Chomsky titles with my tax money, has me perturned.
Gary Ruppert | 09.16.06 - 11:05 pm | #
There, there Gary (pats GR on the head, and then pulls away, realizing she'll have to disinfect her hand). I'm sure you know this because you actually spend time in libraries and have seen such things for yourself.
The far left slant of libraries today... has me perturned.
Coincidentally, I do believe it was Aimee Mann who said
Save me
from the freaks
who're convinced
they could never love anyone.
But I was even more angered by the comments threads and the number of truly horrible comments which were enthusiastically cheered. It's as if everybody dug in with a piece from an empty can...
Yeah.
A few times in the past few years of blogging I've had the sensation that I just saw a lid being suddenly pulled away, and underneath I could see all sorts of writhing corruption & maggots. If that makes sense. Just a stomach-dropping sense that yes, human beings can very easily be turned into evil shrieking beasts, capable of any atrocity.
They no longer order far left materials, since they know I and others in our community will object. We are making progress in making responsive collections in our community. Those who disagree with us? Screw them.
Draco, I always enjoy your presence here. (Even if I kid you once in a while)
Hi Draco.
I'm not here much lately but any friend of Incog's is a friend of mine.
When I do comment here I feel pretty lonely sometimes. But it's nice knowing everyone is here, and that they care....
Peace brother
Speedy
Ack--I'm scared I'm getting scared.
A few times in the past few years of blogging I've had the sensation that I just saw a lid being suddenly pulled away, and underneath I could see all sorts of writhing corruption & maggots. If that makes sense. Just a stomach-dropping sense that yes, human beings can very easily be turned into evil shrieking beasts, capable of any atrocity.
Thers
My brother called my blogging the turning over stones to find creepy-crawlies, and on some days he's right. But I look for the maggots, and there are also butterflies or chubby bees or whatever else we might call fairly ok people.
They no longer order far left materials, since they know I and others in our community will object. We are making progress in making responsive collections in our community. Those who disagree with us? Screw them.
Gary Ruppert | 09.16.06 - 11:10 pm | #
blinkered fools who are convinced that no one has the right to read an opposing viewpoint than their asshole tight concept of the truth.
a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
Ah, Uncle. I could just eat that image w/a spoon.
You are all so delightfully, deliciously verbal.
Whenever I see arguments of a far left, liberal biased form on my local PBS outlet, I write letters to my representatives. I have been successful at getting them to remove material that was nothing but left-wing brainwashing and doctrination without facts, such as environmental hooey.
A few times in the past few years of blogging I've had the sensation that I just saw a lid being suddenly pulled away, and underneath I could see all sorts of writhing corruption & maggots. If that makes sense. Just a stomach-dropping sense that yes, human beings can very easily be turned into evil shrieking beasts, capable of any atrocity.
Thers | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 11:09 pm | #
They no longer order far left materials, since they know I and others in our community will object. We are making progress in making responsive collections in our community. Those who disagree with us? Screw them.
Gary Ruppert | 09.16.06 - 11:10 pm | #
Second post nicely illustrates the first.
I have demanded that my local library remove titles of a too far left bent, and they complied. I have had many challenges upheld by the board as they are books which do not present balanced arguments, or have a hidden agenda.
Gary Ruppert | 09.16.06 - 11:08 pm
In your head you're a successful defender of whatever the hell it is you think you're defending.
In reality, however ...
Dr. Barmpot - Make sure you get the right Toto, 400 sounds right. Got mine a few months ago for about 450 total. Backorder around here is four months.
Chris/Tx
Thanks - I'm told this is the Tall Toto Toity, and will arrive Tuesday. Or possibly Toisday.... (It pays to have your contractor have started his life out as a plumber.... The old toity started making the whistling noise indicating extreme leakage - a bad, bad thing in a water shortage place, and I called and asked him to scout me a toity - and a Toto it is.)
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blinkered fools who are convinced that no one has the right to read an opposing viewpoint than their asshole tight concept of the truth.
Hellkitty | 09.16.06 - 11:12 pm | #
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Of course, liberals think there is no right or wrong. We know better, which is why you keep losing elections. Moral relativism is no longer an excuse for you to push sex to children and abortion on demand and "dissent" that is actually treason when we are at war.
sorry. i can't follow a thread, too stoned on cold medecine
à demain
My brother called my blogging the turning over stones to find creepy-crawlies
Who was that dreadful human being who posted on his blog a coupla years ago about the disposable utility of "comfort women" and suggesting the "curb stomping" of any who disagreed with unleashing the US war machine in Iraq?
A few times in the past few years of blogging I've had the sensation that I just saw a lid being suddenly pulled away, and underneath I could see all sorts of writhing corruption & maggots. If that makes sense. Just a stomach-dropping sense that yes, human beings can very easily be turned into evil shrieking beasts, capable of any atrocity.
Thers
Oh, dear. I get that feeling almost everytime I walk out the door here in Texas.
Draco.....[[[[HUGS]]]], dear. Breathe. Change the channel in your mind. Echidne is right, call someone, get another human bean on the line, re-connect.
SD
You know, this latest Althouse thing has really pissed me off.
Thers
Me too.
Lindsey said (on feministe or pandagon) she cried after reading that thread.
I need to step away from that blog war, however, before I attract a pest.
My brother called my blogging the turning over stones to find creepy-crawlies, and on some days he's right. But I look for the maggots, and there are also butterflies or chubby bees or
Anything to eat? I'm hungry!
Of course, liberals think there is no right or wrong. We know better, which is why you keep losing elections. Moral relativism is no longer an excuse for you to push sex to children and abortion on demand and "dissent" that is actually treason when we are at war.
Gary Ruppert
Those who cheat and steal elections in order to ensure that proper "morals" are legislated and regulated by the government are themselves practicing moral relativism.
Speedy--Thanks. I tried to say OK to you, Haloscan messed us up.
We know better, which is why you keep losing elections.
House Speaker Pelosi House Speaker Pelosi House Speaker Pelosi.
O noes -- head gonna 'splode!
Who was that dreadful human being who posted on his blog a coupla years ago about the disposable utility of "comfort women" and suggesting the "curb stomping" of any who disagreed with unleashing the US war machine in Iraq?
Adam Yoshida.
A truly sick fuck.
Just came back from seeing "The U.S. vs. John Lennon" ... lately, I had been getting nostalgic for Richard Nixon. Never mind. I'm over it. - Brooklyn Girl
I saw Pete McCloskey today.
Wouldn't want to perturn (sic) anyone with my radical leftism, but if someone had collected that radical commie rag the Economist from my mailbox last week, he'd have learned that global warming is real and must be addressed. Then there's that scurrilous socialist scandal-sheet Foreign Affairs, whose lead article suggested we haven't been struck by terrorists in the USA since 9/11 because the threat barely exists. Scientific American? Hoo-ee, Katy bar the door...
Also, if someone interposed himself between my mail and myself, he'd be committing a federal crime...
Lindsey said (on feministe or pandagon) she cried after reading that thread.
Things really haven't changed much.
And people on that side of the divide are pretty disturbed.
It's why we fight.
No takers on the music trivia?
Extra hint, he did it one day before John Lennon got shot.
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We know better, which is why you keep losing elections.
House Speaker Pelosi House Speaker Pelosi House Speaker Pelosi.
O noes -- head gonna 'splode!
melior
Oh it's going to be so much fun. Watch for all the threats of armed resistance, just like they were threatening if Gore prevailed in the 2000 election.
GR you don't know who I am or what my background is. I seriously doubt that you could justify GW Bush's current actions regarding torture with the principals of Kant to save your soul.
Speaking of moral relativism Asshole, your nitwit in chief is the embodiment of moral relativism. One of the most frequent exercises in ethics classes is to justify the use of torture if it will prevent the deaths of thousands and the correct answer is NO. Fuckwad.
Sarah Deere--I'm sorry that I'm a pain, I don't wan't to be a nobody, annoyance. You're an ace lady, I'd not like to be any pain,
And people on that side of the divide are pretty disturbed.
It's why we fight.
fourlegsgood
too true.
No takers on the music trivia?
Are you talking about Darby Crash?
I get the impression that most on the right have no idea what full-blown leftists think.
The liberal straw boogeyman they kick around is a joke compared to the true transformation of power that is being sought.
When their world crashes under the weight of its own over-consumption and blood lust, these notions will be waiting in the wings to take effect.
In the scope of centuries and the sweep of history, whatever beliefs of which you are absolutely certain are farts in the wind.
Are you talking about Darby Crash?
Yes sir.
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Gary, what kind of mindaltering substance are you on?
Ann Althouse on boobs is a caution, isn't she?
The right these days really has extraordinary issues around sex...
Dr. Crackers,
I grew up in the Los Angeles county libraries...which one did your mom work in? I probably knew her
Hellkitty
Sorry - City, not County. She was Western Regional head, out of West LA branch - Mar Vista, Venice, WLA, Brentwood, forgotten the others.... I think she had nine altogether... Then she went to become head of Childrens Services for Albuquerque Public Library - (today I went past my personal favorite library, the Ernie Pyle branch. It was Ernie's house that his wife left to the City - and the City decided it should be a library.... Reference is in the bathroom! 600s are in the kitchen. )
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re: Jessica:
Well, you know.
Later, dears. Draco, know you are cared about. Consider it a life vest, okay?
Ack--I'm scared I'm getting scared.
Draco
Draco,
Are you ill? What's the matter?
Can you call someone right now to come over and be with you?
What's ironic about Adam Yoshida is that he's Canadian. He actually tried to run for a position on his local school board and was laughed off the field. I don't think he's still operating a blog any more.
Meanwhile, if you want to observe a homegrown American nutbar, observe the comments of "Swiftee" in the comments thread for this post of mine on Keith Ellison: http://
phoenixwoman.blogspot.com...845057003523786
No takers on the music trivia?
Extra hint, he did it one day before John Lennon got shot.
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dieselcreek
I dunno. Was it the singer for Joy Division?
Ann Althouse on boobs is a caution, isn't she?
The right these days really has extraordinary issues around sex...
They have extraordinary issues on just about everything.
I certainly don't want to live in the kind of world they'd like to impose on the rest of us.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 11:21 pm | #
Ah, we were North Hollywood & Van Nuys...not close at all.
The right these days really has extraordinary issues around sex...
And not just sex but issues around women's bodies in general. Like who owns them...
Of course, liberals think there is no right or wrong. Gary Ruppert
you are wrong... and you have a little dick and you can't screw.
Anything to eat? I'm hungry!
Doug
I've got green chile stew, and two bags of Senor Murphy caramel corn and a caramel Dixon apple, and EIGHT LOT-A-BURGERS.
Want one?
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Ack--I'm scared I'm getting scared.
Draco
What is wrong?
Draco, we care about you. You are marvelously well informed, erudite, funny and kind. And we are worried because you are feeling so terrible and you are all alone. We can't help you across the cyberspace and you need to contact someone in the meatspace.
What is wrong?
fourlegsgood | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 11:24 pm | #
we've been trying to get him to tell us, but he won't or can't.
Anything to eat? I'm hungry!
Doug
Do you like snails with garlic?
We can't help you across the cyberspace and you need to contact someone in the meatspace.
Meatspace? I'm in meatspace?
Good heavens.
I never really liked Darby Crash, but Pat Smear (once he learned to play that guitar) came up with some great riffs for The Germs.
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Do you like snails with garlic?
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 11:25 pm | #
I have two cans and lots of garlic...butter, you bring the red wine and maybe a nice crusty loaf?
Does Draco live in Atlanta?
Anyone know the crisis number?
Draco,
email me at robert@blackveils.com -- send me your phone number and I'll call you if you want me to.
Yours--
Oh it's going to be so much fun. Watch for all the threats of armed resistance, just like they were threatening if Gore prevailed in the 2000 election.
Buzz Bomb
Indeed, not to mention all the fun of watching them struggle to wrap their minds around why God doesn't like Bush anymore, voting machines ought to have paper trails, and filibustering is a sacred American tradition.
Anybody in the SF Bay/Sac'to area want a piece of Bonehead In Chief? Mark Oct. 3rd on your calendar
Meatspace? I'm in meatspace?
Good heavens.
Except for the vegans among us. They're in tofuspace.
Meatspace? I'm in meatspace?
Good heavens.
Sorry...
Pat Smear was in the Foo Fighters.. then he wasn't.. never really found out what happened there.
Meatspace? I'm in meatspace?
Good heavens.
fourlegsgood
The Interflesh.
Want one?
I could eat a lot of lotta burgers, along with the green chilli stew.
Brooklyn Girl
I saw Pete McCloskey today.
bo
Did you fling yourself on him and kiss his cheeks and forehead and shake his hand?
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geoduck--I'm sorry I've been getting afraid lately. It's bad. I should be over it soon. I apologize to all.
The Interflesh.
Aha.
Kenosha,
Believe it or not, you got home before I did. It was a slow ride through hell up here.
This piece on Manly Manliness in the NRO made me laugh so hard, I hurt myself.
I just had a totally splendid day in which my wife personified this twit's definiton of manliness. So I said to him, "You.stupid.fuck" and stopped reading.
Do you like snails with garlic?
Echidne of the snakes |
I've got green chile stew, and two bags of Senor Murphy caramel corn and a caramel Dixon apple, and EIGHT LOT-A-BURGERS.
Want one?
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
I'm trying to avoid substantial late-night snacking, but you guys aren't making it easy.
Do you like snails with garlic?
Echidne of the snakes
You'd think at a fancy restaurant like this they could keep the snails off the food. /Steve Martin
"Anything to eat? I'm hungry!"
Doug
Do you like snails with garlic?
I haven't ever eaten them. Are they good?
Echidne: it's all about sex and power, and it's present on the right to a degree that transcends merely bad stuff that must be fought politically, though it's certainly all of that, and, seems to me, achieves genuine strangeness...
Pat Smear was in the Foo Fighters.. then he wasn't.. never really found out what happened there.
The Kenosha Kid
Was in Nirvana, too, the last couple years, before Kurt hit the reset button...
Meatspace? I'm in meatspace?
Good heavens.
Snowden's secret.
geoduck--I'm sorry I've been getting afraid lately. It's bad. I should be over it soon. I apologize to all.
What are you afraid of?
I'm sorry I've been getting afraid lately. It's bad. I should be over it soon. I apologize to all.
Draco
There's nothing to apologize for. but you don't need to go through this alone.
Do you like snails with garlic?
I haven't ever eaten them. Are they good?
Doug
Much better than snails without garlic.
Gators win!
Who knew after that Til Tuesday shit that Aimee Mann was actually really talented?
Buzz Bomb
_____________________________________
Her first solo album, "Whatever" (1995) is poignamt and gorgeous---
if you like her sound.
Want one?
I could eat a lot of lotta burgers, along with the green chile stew.
Doug
Too late!
Believe it or not, you got home before I did. It was a slow ride through hell up here.
How the h#ll did that happen?
My brother called my blogging the turning over stones to find creepy-crawlies, and on some days he's right. But I look for the maggots, and there are also butterflies or chubby bees or whatever else we might call fairly ok people.
Oh, the good stuff is there too. Hell, people here have done and said some wonderful things for me & my family that have floored me, with how good people can be.
But somehow I'm just more able to believe in extraordinary goodness than extraordinary evil. That someone would rush to Jessica's support, I believe it. I just can't totally believe someone would really be able to type out some of the horrible shit that was said about her.
Echidne: it's all about sex and power, and it's present on the right to a degree that transcends merely bad stuff that must be fought politically, though it's certainly all of that, and, seems to me, achieves genuine strangeness...
ProfWombat
Yes. Some of it I can't really even respond to, because any response I can think of would bring mental problems in my opponent. And at the same time it is very, very sad, because anyone who wants to be the jailkeeper for others will also be imprisoned by the task.
Green chiles are delicious.
Speedy--My number is no secret--404 352 6375--please call. I like your photo at NTodd's
Good Christ!
There is an opinion by John Fuck Yoo on the NYT op-ed today.
Draco, we love you. Hold on.
Good heavens.
fourlegsgood | Homepage | 09.16.06 - 11:25 pm | #
Detroit Grand Pubahs..."Sandwiches" comes to mind.
I just can't totally believe someone would really be able to type out some of the horrible shit that was said about her.
There is a truly frightening amount of bile and anger on the right.
They are horrible, horrible people.
"Meat?"
"Meat. They're made out of meat."
"Meat?"
"There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."
(click watch film)
anyone who wants to be the jailkeeper for others will also be imprisoned by the task.
Very wise words. The lesson of long-term military occupations, too...
Draco, there was a special on "I don't get any respect" comedian, Rodney Dangerfield, the other night where there was shown him doing routines about the "heavyness". I think he was talking about real life in this case.
Many of us suffer from this sometimes, and some all the time.
Kenosha,
The train was going very slow and it was getting more and more crowded and hot. I had to get off because I thought I would either suffocate or have a nervous breakdown. So I got off at Columbus Circle, waited for 20 minutes for a bus, and then when that bus came in add'n to smelling like urine it took forever to get uptown.
Did you fling yourself on him and kiss his cheeks and forehead and shake his hand? -
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Damn near. He came to Defender's of Wildlife's anti-Pombo leafleting campaign. He even walked part of a precinct himself. The guy's 78 now. Said he'll do the same thing in 4 weeks in Lodi.
Years ago I had tickets to see Aimee Mann opening for The Kinks at the Greek Theater in Berkeley. But the show was cancelled when the Kinks broke up. Just about broke my heart.
Gators win!
I hope Atrios bans Mrs I a-J.
Er, I meant "bring up the idea that my opponent suffers from mental problems"..
Green chiles are delicious.
fourlegsgood
As the old man in Hatch said, "Chile is liiiiiiiiiiiiiiife...."
Verdad.
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Aimee Mann is great. A little trivia: She is the ONLY guest vocalist to record with the band RUSH in the almost 40 years they have been recording.
Oh, and Kenosha Kid, I knew Pat Smear years ago. No idea what ever happened to him. This was back in E. WA. many moons ago. Diddly Squat, Moral Crux, Screaming Trees days.
Draco: still there? What's happening?
And not just sex but issues around women's bodies in general. Like who owns them...
Echidne of the snakes
Yeah- policing women's bodies -- a time tested tactic to manifest scummy political goals.
I just can't totally believe someone would really be able to type out some of the horrible shit that was said about her.
Thers
actually, I still don't believe it. I keep on thinking that Ann will slap her forehead and think -- wow - I can't believe I said those horrible things.
Whenever anyone talks about "Bush hatred," I think, oh, right, we're the haters.
The amount of hatred (and fear, and ignorance, and xenophobia, and racism, and sexism, and all the other interrelated maladies of the mind) on the American Right is unbelievable.
But the show was cancelled when the Kinks broke up. Just about broke my heart.
I heard the Kinks broke up because they were sick of performing in front of hatless freaks.
The Germs are touring again (with Pat Smear and the other 2 original members). Mainly because a movie was made about Darby Crash. The actor who plays Darby is actually on tour with the band.
What we do is secret:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h?
v=ZrgfE8oANLQ
night, all Drugs kicked in. Draco, you will be well.
Trying to upgrade yourself on NYC public transport is always a crap shoot.
SNL skit is good.
"Dick, I don't want to be president anymore."
John Yoo is an asshole.
I look forward to shooting him into the sun.
Draco, stop apologizing.
And don't you dare apologize for apologizing so much, buddy boy.
If you are sick or freaking out, please think about contacting someone near by-- friend, relative, 911. ASAP, buddy boy. 
Don't just sit there feeling spaced out and embarrassed. Time to stop going in a circle.
Yr Friend, Little Brøther 
There's a help line in just about every major town or city that people can call to talk.
Draco- I really think you should call your local help line or call a friend.
You don't have to do this alone.
You can find this line by typing in "help line" or crisis counseling and your town's name into google.
I keep on thinking that Ann will slap her forehead and think -- wow - I can't believe I said those horrible things.
No chance.
Aimee Mann is great. A little trivia: She is the ONLY guest vocalist to record with the band RUSH in the almost 40 years they have been recording.
Heh, I can imagine her singing Entre Nous or Closer to the Heart.
But not Bytor and the Snow Dog.
.
Good lord, did I scare Ruppert off with the Kantian challenge?
re: Escargot, my grandmere was French and I learned to cook and eat them at an early age. They are sublime...especially when followed by a good onion soup.
You can't kiss anyone for days, but gastronimically speaking it is worth it.
I heard the Kinks broke up because they were sick of performing in front of hatless freaks.
I heard they broke up because the only people who listen to power pop anymore are overeducated Irish louts who live in the boondocks.
But somehow I'm just more able to believe in extraordinary goodness than extraordinary evil. That someone would rush to Jessica's support, I believe it. I just can't totally believe someone would really be able to type out some of the horrible shit that was said about her.
Thers
To them, she is not a person.
I've seen people do this to people they actually know, and for no better reason. The inhumanity we assume resides in the breasts of monster and sociopaths is not far from any of us.
Or certainly not far from most of us. I know people I am sure are incapable of such cruelty and malice. And then I've been surprised by the people who are; and at how easily it is manifested. Usually around issues of identity, I find; which are usually centered on issues of boundaries.
Thus do most of us go through life: worried endless about the edges which define us, and about what those defining edges say about us. Demonizing is hardly even more than a reflex action in such situations.
You can't kiss anyone for days, but gastronimically speaking it is worth it.
Hellkitty
Except another garlic lover! They are sublime, kind of like a meaty mushroom.
No chance.
Nope.
She's sitting at home congratulating herself on putting Jessica down.
Gators win!
I hope Atrios bans Mrs I a-J.
Thers
Heh. Mrs. I and I (heh) are supposed to be meeting up for lunch in the next week or so.
I'm sure my students are getting trashed now. Fortunately, since it's away game, there won't be any broken beer bottles or strange odors outside the department. I hope.
As a newly-minted fan I won't pretend to talk any trash, of course.
But, when did Louisville get so good? Lousiville? Football?
She is the ONLY guest vocalist to record with the band RUSH in the almost 40 years they have been recording.
Yeah, and that 40 years was for only one fucking track.
John Yoo is an asshole.
He's a perfect Nixonian holdover where the ends *always* justify any fucking means whatsoever.
The slight flaw in Messr. Yoo's raison d'etre, is that the ends suck ass.
I keep on thinking that Ann will slap her forehead and think -- wow - I can't believe I said those horrible things.
No chance.
Thers
It's about never having to say you're sorry. A lot of wingnuttery seems to be about that and winning. Like life is a football game.
This whole Feministing thing cries out for the wisdom of Ann Altmouse. Any chance she'll go back to blogging?
hey hellkitty: had seriously garlicky escargots tossed with pasta about 15 years ago, delicious...
"Dick, I don't want to be president anymore."
Steve French
Reminds me of this old Bob the Angry Flower toon.
fourlegs,
I'm not even going to click that damn link. I don't want to get angrier than I already am.
Nope.
She's sitting at home congratulating herself on putting Jessica down.
fourlegsgood
I don't get evil either.
I mean, I understand when somebody acts out of anger.
but I don't understand how someone can hurt somebody, not in anger, with intent. It confuses me.
I heard they broke up because the only people who listen to power pop anymore are overeducated Irish louts who live in the boondocks.
Overeducated boondocked Irish louts with hats.
Kenosha,
I should have walked.
Except another garlic lover! They are sublime, kind of like a meaty mushroom.
melior | 09.16.06 - 11:39 pm | #
Melior, we need to find a good place in Austin that serves them and invite the locals to join in.
He's a perfect Nixonian holdover where the ends *always* justify any fucking means whatsoever.
Yep.
He is an evil fuck. I wish aliens would eat his head.
Pat Buchanan on cspan2. Yucko
There's also an NYT editorial with the following headline and subhead:
Where Chutzpah’s No Handicap: Kenneth Tomlinson, the patronage hack who blithely operated a horse-racing business from high federal office, shows a staying power more worthy of Dracula than Seabiscuit.
Overeducated boondocked Irish louts with hats.
Thers
Hey! I never said I listened to The Kinks.
This whole Feministing thing cries out for the wisdom of Ann Altmouse. Any chance she'll go back to blogging?
res ipsa loquitur
I would be worried that it would put Almouse at risk.
I mean, over the past few months i've seen some creepy people on the internet.
RMJ: I recall Joseph Campbell saying people who wore a military uniform, thus trading their identity for a mythic external one of sorts, shouldn't be held liable for crimes they thereby commit; we parted company at that one...
He is an evil fuck. I wish aliens would eat his head. - fourlegsgood
Where is the Symbionese Liberation Army now that we really need it?
fourlegs,
I'm not even going to click that damn link. I don't want to get angrier than I already am.
It's pretty retarded.
Don't read it, it will just irritate you. It's a bunch of nonsense about how chimpy has properly reclaimed the presidential powers due to him.
Overeducated boondocked Irish louts with hats.
I remember that band - The Safety Dance!
No chance.
Nope.
She's sitting at home congratulating herself on putting Jessica down.
fourlegsgood
I know you are right.
Miss Althouse is unfortunately the kind of woman who is offended by what she imagines is competition. That there is no competition is immaterial. She sees it and she must vanquish it.
It's a great sadness. Miss Jessica was in truth merely standing up straight, as doubtless every single person in her youth adjured her to do. Like a person. A human being....
But then, I can only repeat that Miss Althouse is a Great Big Meanie. I'd be charmed to tell her so in person, but she would be so surprised to discover my gender it wouldn't work out.... She'd probably insist that I was wrong to pretend to be who I am.
Ah me.
.
This whole Feministing thing cries out for the wisdom of Ann Altmouse. Any chance she'll go back to blogging?
No, I'm too busy and reading Althouse every day is fucking boring.
However, I am cooking up something for ol' AA.
ProfWombat | 09.16.06 - 11:43 pm | #
there were a few things Campbell was a bit wide afield on. Have you ever read "The Inner Reaches of Outer Space"? aside from the numerical cooincidences it was almost Caycean in its oddness.
This week's softer world.
i FREEDOM FIGHTER BOMBING love you
whether you reply or JIHAD not.
Well, now that Draco has published his phone number-- assuming it's correct-- I presume he'll be deluged with calls.
In the truest sense of the term, I trust things will be sorted out favorably, unless there is a problem with too many cooks.
I hope an update will be provided here tomorrow morning-- although I don't suppose Master Atrios would replace a Roveketeer photo with a "Draco OK" alert.
Draco's done this at least once before, FWIW. Hope all is, or will be, well. [There ought to be a crossed-fingers smiley.]
spinoza: as if I really needed a good reason not to watch cspan2...
the New york Review of Books this week has John Gray on George Soros and Karl Popper; well worth a read: winds up by saying that the faith-based policies of the fundies/Bushies simply defy a falsification or reflexivity analysis...
However, I am cooking up something for ol' AA.
Sounds promising.
John Yoo is an asshole.
I look forward to shooting him into the sun.
fourlegsgood
That's going to be a very crowded spaceship.
Melior, we need to find a good place in Austin that serves them and invite the locals to join in.
Hellkitty
We might have to invent one. I wonder how difficult snail wrangling is?
No, I'm too busy and reading Althouse every day is fucking boring.
I'll say.
Her picture is next to "banal" in the dictionary.
RMJ: I recall Joseph Campbell saying people who wore a military uniform, thus trading their identity for a mythic external one of sorts, shouldn't be held liable for crimes they thereby commit; we parted company at that one...
Joseph Campbell was a little too much of a Platonist for me. When he got his Jungian juices going, I felt he was trying to lick the eidai.
Even that one track is almost 20 years old Thers.
Damn I'm getting old.
That's going to be a very crowded spaceship.
It is indeed.
It's a great sadness. Miss Jessica was in truth merely standing up straight, as doubtless every single person in her youth adjured her to do. Like a person. A human being...
That was exactly my thought. I had seen that photo a couple times and never saw anything odd, except maybe that Atrios's face was blocked from view almost like back in the Blue Dot Days.
That Ann even noticed this just, well, says everything you need to know about her, which others have summarized much better than I ever could.
He's a perfect Nixonian holdover where the ends *always* justify any fucking means whatsoever.
This whole maladministration if filled with people who believe that any ends justify the means. E.g., warrantless wire tapping, torture, secret prisons, trials where you can't face your accuser or even see the evidence. God save us.
hk: yup, I agree--me, I thought Campbell read himself too much...
to tell you the truth, "feministing" to a dyslexic like myself looks an awful lot like "fisting" when read quickly. Did they consider that when naming the blog?
fourlegs,
That's exactly what I said last night. Althouse is banal. Also that she obviously got her gig at that law school via some sort of affirmative action initiative for the benefit of dumb people.
I'm going to go get me one of my Lot-A-Burgers and take it to bed with me.
Does that make me easy?
Goodnight machacas.
.
The twine post is still my favorite.
Nothing will ever beat that - Twine!
That's going to be a very crowded spaceship.
Buzz Bomb
If the aliens eat their heads first, we can squeeze a few more in.
That was exactly my thought. I had seen that photo a couple times and never saw anything odd, except maybe that Atrios's face was blocked from view almost like back in the Blue Dot Days.
Me too.
But then neither of us are so fucked up that we are immediately terrified by breasts.
We might have to invent one. I wonder how difficult snail wrangling is?
melior | 09.16.06 - 11:47 pm | #
hard to fit for a snaffle bit and the reins are pretty slick but I think we can manage.
i've been thinking about forwarding her blog to a law professor here.
i'd be interested in this professor's response to said blog.
(and if I knew a kid who wanted to go to law school I'd suggest they don't go to U Madison unless they have NO interest in Con Law.)
If the aliens eat their heads first
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
there were a few things Campbell was a bit wide afield on. Have you ever read "The Inner Reaches of Outer Space"? aside from the numerical cooincidences it was almost Caycean in its oddness.
Hellkitty,
Edgar Cayce in a trance in 1937 predicted you would say that on this thread.
geoduck,
Con law is required, so there's always the risk that some poor schmuck shelling out $30K to be there could get stuck with that moron.
If the aliens eat their heads first, we can squeeze a few more in.
If aliens would eat their heads I wouldn't need to spend all my lottery money on a spaceship.
Fucking aliens. Off fucking off somewhere when they could be here doing something useful.
Edgar Cayce in a trance in 1937 predicted you would say that on this thread.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in | 09.16.06 - 11:50 pm | #
no doubt. But did Nostradamus say it first?
hard to fit for a snaffle bit and the reins are pretty slick but I think we can manage.
Hellkitty
No Salt Shakers Permitted Past This Point.
But then neither of us are so fucked up that we are immediately terrified by breasts
Thank God! And I have cock and bull blogging almost ready, except I have umpteen decent photos of cock, and only one worthy photo of the bull.
The twins are still going at it, so my night has been looonnngggg.
Played Life, Sorry, and Yahtzee, though, and I lost all 3
But then neither of us are so fucked up that we are immediately terrified by breasts
Thank God! And I have cock and bull blogging almost ready, except I have umpteen decent photos of cock, and only one worthy photo of the bull.
The twins are still going at it, so my night has been looonnngggg.
Played Life, Sorry, and Yahtzee, though, and I lost all 3
When I live in No. Cal, I could never keep all of the snails out of my garden. Made growing artichokes a hopeless task unless you liked snail poop all over the thistle heads.
Snail wrangling there would be easy, water the yard, and a half hour later pick up thousands of them.
What up, crazy moonbats!
Okay, I'll be back later.
No Salt Shakers Permitted Past This Point.
melior | 09.16.06 - 11:52 pm | #
The Riders in the Sky version of this is
really good:
http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/
t...tiSALTSLUG.html
Snow,
Did you have fun hanging with your bro?
But then neither of us are so fucked up that we are immediately terrified by breasts.
fourlegsgood
What I despised was how she used Jessica's body
(1) as a prop to make a rhetorical point
(2) to get attention and publicity
(3) to criticize Jessica in a totally inappropriate manner
(4) as bait to attract horn dogs to her site. And then she allowed them to use Jessica's body as a site of homosocial bonding. ie - "I'd do her!" "But she's a slut!"
btw, i just saw talledega night, ballad of ricky bobby.
hilarious. 9/10
they should have gone for the R and then it would have been a 10/10
And then she allowed them to use Jessica's body as a site of homosocial bonding. ie - "I'd do her!" "But she's a slut!"
That Madonna/whore duality's a bitch, ain't it, rightards?
This whole maladministration if filled with people who believe that any ends justify the means
I like that mis-spelling of if for is in your post. It reminds me of the typographical habit back in the colonial day of using f's for s's.
Like when critically important documents start out, "In Congreffs..."
That's going to be a very crowded spaceship.
we'll have to build an entire fleet of them.
Con law is required, so there's always the risk that some poor schmuck shelling out $30K to be there could get stuck with that moron.
res ipsa loquitur
Yeah - and I don't know about Madison, but ususally there's only one or two people who teach Con law 1 and 2.
So I expect a student would get stuck with her as a teacher. i'm just assumming that she's a piss poor teacher - and thus a student shouldn't go to Madison unless they don't need Con law or aren't interested in it.
(Can you imagine her teaching us about Civil Rights or the 14th Amendment? OMG.)
What I despised was how she used Jessica's body
(1) as a prop to make a rhetorical point
(2) to get attention and publicity
(3) to criticize Jessica in a totally inappropriate manner
(4) as bait to attract horn dogs to her site. And then she allowed them to use Jessica's body as a site of homosocial bonding. ie - "I'd do her!" "But she's a slut!"
Said perfectly.
I'm going to play with my musical toys now.
Y'all take care of your good selves, and don't be too hard on Campbell.
His studies took him to modes of thought often impractical to a Western rational individualist trying to keep sane in today's world. I'm indebted to him for providing the tools I needed to forgive the ignorant Baptist crapola I was raised under, to engage the spiritual in a manner other than cynical anger.
Good night, and follow your bliss.
btw res ipsa loquitor is my favorite part of tort law, which, no offence to the real RIL here, is not saying much.
could product liability be anymore fucked up?
how many restatements do we need?
Snail wrangling there would be easy, water the yard, and a half hour later pick up thousands of them.
Doug | 09.16.06 - 11:53 pm | #
you can eat the garden snail but it is a lot of work for little reward, plus you have to consider their environment...what do people put in their yards, chemicals etc. then you have to feed them lettuce for two weeks to clean out their digestive tracts. I'd rather buy canned.
Y'all take care of your good selves, and don't be too hard on Campbell.
Glen? He can pick a helluva mean guitar, now.
The Riders in the Sky version of this is really good
Hellkitty
Ah, echoes of my homie, Lewie C.
'A loaf of bread,' the Walrus said,
'Is what we chiefly need:
Pepper and vinegar besides
Are very good indeed --
Now, if you're ready, Oysters dear,
We can begin to feed.'
(Can you imagine her teaching us about Civil Rights or the 14th Amendment? OMG.)
geoduck, I have to tell you that she actually couldn't be worse than the guy I had for con law I. He was a Harvard guy, of course, and thoroughly incomprehensible. I stopped taking notes about three weeks into class. I went to the Bar Bri review for the class and it was like a revelation. I got an "A-." I took con law II from a total wingnut and I actually liked the guy a lot. I didn't agree with him about anything, but he was a good teacher. I even took another class with him.
CAn I just say that children with abandonment issues are really hard to soothe?
Know it, and never leave your children without telling them why. These boys, their mother left them because she's a ... whatever. And like that. God, never mind, God...my brother is the best dad he could possibly be. I admire him for carrying this torch.
euphronius,
The NYCOA just did a case where the issue was can P get summary judgment in an RIL case.
although rylands v fletcher was sure entertaining . . . . not!
I'm really glad I didn't go to law school. I think I would have hated it and dropped or flunked out.
Did you have fun hanging with your bro?
Yes, we decided to take our drinking home. Now he is claiming to not be a Republican. Fucking doctors cannot tell the truth.
to tell you the truth, "feministing" to a dyslexic like myself looks an awful lot like "fisting" when read quickly.
I'm not dyslexic, but whenever I see "geoduck" my brain thinks "turducken".
Brains are funny that way.
Yes, we decided to take our drinking home. Now he is claiming to not be a Republican. Fucking doctors cannot tell the truth.
Send him to Michigan. I will change him once and fer all.
melior | 09.16.06 - 11:59 pm | #
The Owl and the Pussycat is another favorite.
Now he is claiming to not be a Republican. Fucking doctors cannot tell the truth.
Make sure you remind him when he is sober that he is no longer a Republican.
It would suck if my bro was a Republican. even my dad is not a republican anymore.
but wouldnt P still have to prove the standard of care and damages?
did the D just stipulate as to damages??
Now I'm wondering how geoducks would taste with garlic butter.
Brains are funny that way.
Little Brøther | 09.17.06 - 12:01 am | #
spealing of molluscs, google geoduck and see what comes up.
Evening, folk!
Three weeks from tonight....
Send him to Michigan. I will change him once and fer all.
The future sister too?
No takers on the music trivia?
Extra hint, he did it one day before John Lennon got shot **********
Was it the guy who headed up the Minutemen, the group that did those 30 second songs? Something George?
So Aimee Mann just put my nephews to sleep.
I should have signed on about an hour and a half ago.
I'm really glad I didn't go to law school. I think I would have hated it and dropped or flunked out.
Buzz Bomb
I did, and yes, at times, no, but pretty close first year, and not even close to answer your surmising.
It's damned near impossible to flunk out of law school, yet it can be done with vaunted determination.
Life and Sorry: there's a juxtaposition. Reminds me of a woman Randall Jarrell described in a supermarket. 'moving from Cheer to Joy, and from Joy to All'...
Was it the guy who headed up the Minutemen, the group that did those 30 second songs? Something George?
D. Boon, baby!!
Gawd, I love those guys.
The future sister too?
Snow, Frank Sinatra
My wish is your command.
Like when critically important documents start out, "In Congreffs..."
Max Planck - 11:56 pm
So I wasn't the only kid who programmed that "f" into my head, even after I was well aware that the f-like letter was really an "s"!
euphronius,
I can get you the cite on Monday, but the gist of the opinion is that RIL creates an inference (not a presumption) of negligence. It possible -- but extremely rare -- to get SJ in such a case.
and from Joy to All'...
And from 'All' to 'Tide'(ings) of great 'Joy'...
Forgive me.
Cheer.
Only one person flunked out of my medical school in four years--doens't happen often, but does happen
What an entertaining day of scholar-athletes playing American footsball.
Gawd, I love those guys.
Zap Rowsdower, Soonly Wed
Me too. Double Nickels On The Dime, wore out the grooves.
Buzz Bomb, You could have gotten through it. You might not have liked it; but you would have graduated. That said, don't do it!
I just read through the wingers-vs.-tits blog foodfight. It took me quite a while to figure out exactly how stupid ye wingers can be.
I need reminding, from time to time.
The NYCOA just did a case where the issue was can P get summary judgment in an RIL case.
res ipsa loquitur
i am thinking a "suicide" where life insurance policy holding company is P?
D. Boon, baby!!
Gawd, I love those guys.
Zap Rowsdower, Soonly Wed
Me too!
fIREHOSE sucked, though.
Wombat,
Was it his/her studies, or did they find they were unsuited, temperament-wise, to be a doc?
The only thing I can't figure out tonight is why John Yoo is a law professor anywhere except a third-rate night school.
Only one person flunked out of my medical school in four years--doens't happen often, but does happen
In spite of the grade points required to get into med school, not all of the students can be that consistently good.
Now you are scaring me.
focus,
No, it was a really typical something-got-dropped-on-someone's-head case. I think it was roofing material falling off a house.
What an entertaining day of scholar-athletes playing American footsball.
Hail to the fucking victors valiant...
Have one, and only one, half way decent pic of Dozer. He wiggles and giggles and tickles inside too much for me to get anything other than a cursory shot. Although I took 40.
UW Madison has 4 Con. Laws Profs. teaching this years curriculum.
.
John Yoo, as one of our overlords, has the courage to discuss Serious matters.
Like making shit up and directly contradicting settled law.
Huzzah for Seriousness. The adults are in charge!
"It's damned near impossible to flunk out of law school, yet it can be done with vaunted determination.
Max Planck"
i could do it, easily.
no recall. no focus. no discipline. a yen for pussy over books.
i'm yer man.
The library at the traditional black college in Delaware has been rotting since it was built in the 1970's.
Story here:http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/
article?AID=/20060916/NEWS/609160337/1006/NEWS
"Five days later, Streetman took photographs inside the library to buttress complaints that he's been lodging for three years or so. The photos depicted, among other things, walls splotched with black mold, fallen tiles, corroded window frames that allowed water inside the six-story building and, in one case, a burn mark on a door that apparently was caused when water infiltrated a closet containing high-voltage power lines."
This is the state of the library at Delaware State University. They are putting in a wellness center and astroturf and not fixing the moldy library because:
"Few students use the library, DSU President Allen L. Sessoms said, and, for that reason, it’s on a far backburner on the school’s capital-improvements list"
RIL dont worry about the cite. im sure i wont care by monday.
but it is interesting that such a case would even get to trial and be litigated.
I would have fucking settled out.
maybe it was the under employed layer's guild.
btw, taking wills, trusts and estates in LS now. fucking great. now this is law i like . . . rich dicks trying to screw their wives. holler.
focus & euphronius,
Here it is. A little light reading for Sunday AM.
fIREHOSE sucked, though.
Buzz Bomb
I actually saw them open for the Beastie Boys on their "Check Your Head" tour. I was 16, and had no clue who Mike Watt was.
But yeah, they sucked. "Ballhog or Tugboat?" was an okay solo album, though.
lawyers' , not lawyer's
euphronius,
Do they have you reading the Charles Kuralt case?
No! the Lee Marvin case!
Lee Marvin loved the ladies...
vicki baby...yer little gerbils kicked the shit out of holy touchdown jesus today...i rooted for them...this may seem a sin, but i'm for big 10.
The Suzuki auto seems to be OK so far. It's working on the freeway between here and Benson, where someplaces the wind gets kind of high. High enough that about once a month a truck gets blown off the highway and about once a week this happens to an auto.
The only thing I can't figure out tonight is why John Yoo is a law professor anywhere except a third-rate night school.
I am wondering that about Althouse, too. I'm telling you: in Althouse's case it's affirmative action for the dumb. In Yoo's, it's affirmative action for baby-faced facists.
Long time ago, but medical schools were really quite selective; not a clinker in the bunch that should've been thrown out where and when I was, anyway.
Yeah, the Lee Marvin case is fun. But I did that in family law, not in T&E.
DAmnit! I missed the Minuteman question- cool band. Good ol' Mike Watt still rockin!!
.
No! the Lee Marvin case!
Lee Marvin loved the ladies...
Gonna paint your wagon,
gonna do it fine.
Gonna use an oil-based paint,
'cause the wood is pine.
Anyone for cherry cobbler?
I am wondering that about Althouse, too. I'm telling you: in Althouse's case it's affirmative action for the dumb. In Yoo's, it's affirmative action for baby-faced facists.
res ipsa loquitur
It seems to be some corollary to the Peter Principle at work. Yoo probably got the position because of his connection to the White House.
That's all I can figure, because he can't form a Constitutional argument to save his life. Even granting the NYT Op-Ed is not the Yale Law Journal, he makes no attempt whatsoever to ground his argument in anything except "Because I say so."
Ponderooooosa pine...
maybe it was the under employed layer's guild.
Is that a chicken joke?
no kuralt yet.
working on reading the morejon v. rais now.
I resent the night school derogatory comments.
some of us have to work.
Buzz Bomb, You could have gotten through it. You might not have liked it; but you would have graduated. That said, don't do it!
res ipsa loquitur
S'okay, I became a geologist instead, and I like it sorta okay. Environmental consulting is a growth industry. Real James Bond-glamorous, too. Er, I was joking about the last bit. It's not really fun or sexy, but at least I don't feel like I'm causing harm to anybody or profiting off of other peoples' misery or stupidity.
I have noticed that geologists are often portrayed in movies and TV (when they are portrayed at all) as pedantic assholes or geeky absent-minded professor types (think George Sibley on Six Feet Under). I think a lot of screenwriters must have taken a geology class in college because they needed an easy science course, and still resent it to this day.
Re: med schools. This may or may not apply, but I have a friend who went through Harvard Law. He reported that the school didn't really try that hard to flunk people (contrary to the movies). They screened carefully for entry, and didn't want their system to be so deficient that they had a high failure rate.
I would assume med schools function on much the same principle. If you don't belong there, how did you get in to begin with?
there ya go, res; summary judgment means no issue of fact and construing in favor of non-moving party and like that...
Well bats, Barry from AK still has the bunny slippers and I have been informed that I have been blogging for the last 8+ hours. Who counts?
I hope you all go from Cheer to Joy and against the Tide when need be.
Have a good night and I'll see y'all tomorrow evening. Hope someone can hold Draco's hand.
Love you guys.
Environmental consulting is a growth industry.
yeah it was in the 90s also, until it wasn't anymore.
Rmj,
Better you read that than me. I am too angry lately.
I graduated from a fairly prestigious, at least in the region, law school, and snagged a 3.2 GPA while fighting it the whole way. Nobody failed out in my class, and I'm telling you, there were some folks in there who surprised me that they could manage to don the cap and gown properly.
there ya go, res; summary judgment means no issue of fact and construing in favor of non-moving party and like that...
ProfWombat
I can count on 1 hand the number of those I ever won. Damned high hurdle to clear.
Not that you don't try.
You guys are missing one hell of a lightning storm.
RMJ: yup; they want everyone to make it, which means they have to be reasonably smart and capable of a lot of work...
Environmental consulting is a growth industry.
yeah it was in the 90s also, until it wasn't anymore.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Depends on the area of the country you're in, too. I'm in California. Boo-yeah.
This may or may not apply, but I have a friend who went through Harvard Law
An ex-girlfriend of mine went to law school here in Madison. She hated it, they really try to psych you out and get you to quit or break you. She left that for Public Administration which suites her much better.
.
RMJ, a constitutional question:
Can a law be passed that over-rides a treaty (Geneva torture) with-out the same sort of ratifications the treaty law originally went through?
Nobody failed out in my class, and I'm telling you, there were some folks in there who surprised me that they could manage to don the cap and gown properly.
Max Planck | 09.17.06 - 12:17 am | #
A guy in my class went bonkers. For real. They think he was an undiagnosed schizophrenic. Apparently, when under a lot of stress they can decompensate. He went bonkers during exams. Really crazy stuff. Scared a few people. They let him come back one semester and he made it about two weeks, at which time we had a brief due or something. He broke down again, left, and never came back.
"We stand by those principles, and in the context of this appeal, reaffirm that only in the rarest of res ipsa loquitur cases may a plaintiff win summary judgment or a directed verdict. That would happen only when the plaintiff's circumstantial proof is so convincing and the defendant's response so weak that the inference of defendant's negligence is inescapable."
and i affirm that such a case should never go to trial, and if it did, D's lawyer should be sued, not just for malpractice, but for wasting everyone's fucking time.
sallyh: yes yes i said yes
The one time I had to go to court, the Judge threw out the case after the prosecution finished their case but before my lawyer did his thing (other than question the witnesses and ask the judge to through the case out). Does that count as summary judgment ?
Depends on the area of the country you're in, too. I'm in California. Boo-yeah.
Buzz Bomb Depends on the area of the country you're in, too. I'm in California. Boo-yeah. - Buzz Bomb
Which end of the state.
The library at the traditional black college in Delaware has been rotting since it was built in the 1970's.
Story here:http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ article?AID=/20060916/NEWS/609160337/1006/NEWS
Do you have a link that works?
TIA.
RMJ, a constitutional question:
Can a law be passed that over-rides a treaty (Geneva torture) with-out the same sort of ratifications the treaty law originally went through?
Doug | 09.17.06 - 12:19 am | #
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open question. unknown.
there ya go, res; summary judgment means no issue of fact and construing in favor of non-moving party and like that...
um, "triable issue of material fact"
judicial notice sweeps up the rest nicely. but always shoot for litigation if there is an opening.
Once I got into grad school, I discovered that it was actually harder to flunk out than to succeed. I guess a) no one wants to admit they were wrong and b) they don't want to lose their investment.
Saw a surgical resident read out of the program after a psychotic break. Nice guy, lots of pressure; enormously sad. No patients got hurt, thankfully...
Depends on the area of the country you're in, too. I'm in California. Boo-yeah.
What kind of projects do you do? LUSTs? industrial sites? remediations? site assesments?
ProfWombat--Monsieur says it works nicely with French vanilla ice cream, but I have almond whipped cream as well.
Maybe a nice Calvados to wash it down?
What an entertaining day of scholar-athletes playing American footsball.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
I rather enjoyed seeing the Ducks lucky victory over Oklahoma.
law schools would, historically, fail a sizable percentage after first year.
not no mo'.
old man and agent orange, if yer out there how about juxtaposing these two pieces?
wapo, 9-16-06:
"In May 2003, a team of law enforcement experts from the Justice Department concluded that more than 6,600 foreign advisers were needed to help rehabilitate Iraq's police forces.
The White House dispatched just one: Bernie Kerik."
and put it together with a piece from an article in the ny times sunday addition:
BAGHDAD, Sept. 16 — Shiite militiamen and criminals entrenched throughout Iraq’s police and internal security forces are blocking recent efforts by some Iraqi leaders and the American military to root them out, a step critical to winning the trust of skeptical Sunni Arabs and quelling the sectarian conflict, Iraqi and Western officials say.
The new interior minister, Jawad al-Bolani, who oversees the police, lacks the political support to purge many of the worst offenders, including senior managers who tolerated or encouraged the infiltration of Shiite militias into the police under the previous government, according to interviews with more than a dozen officials who work with the ministry and the police.
No one expected a housecleaning to be easy, and some headway has been made in firing people. But despite that progress, recent difficulties reveal the magnitude of the task facing Mr. Bolani and Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. When he took office in late May, Mr. Maliki said one of his top goals was to reform the Shiite-led Interior Ministry, which had, to the minority Sunni Arabs, become synonymous with government complicity in abduction, torture and killing...
The ministry recently discovered that more than 1,200 policemen and other employees had been convicted years ago of murder, rape and other violent crimes, said a Western diplomat who has close contact with the ministry. Some were even on death row. Few have been fired.
...need i draw the connections?
ABC News headline:
Bush, Congress Butt Heads
Why yes, yes they are.
What an entertaining day of scholar-athletes playing American footsball.
Nim
Just to be sure, I'm going to spend all day tomorrow watching football as well.
sallyh: your cherry cobbler, I'd assume, needs no further embellishment. And the calvados would be splendid...
law schools would, historically, fail a sizable percentage after first year.
This was in 98', and she didn't make it through the first year before freaking out and switching schools.
.
lol,melior.
nice tolkien name, btw
What kind of projects do you do? LUSTs? industrial sites? remediations? site assesments?
The Old Man From Scene 24
Yep, all the above, although I myself mostly work on LUSTs.
Does that count as summary judgment ?
Old Man, See Wombat's standard above, i.e., there would have had to be no triable issues of material fact, i.e., no facts had to be found. There would have had to be a motion by your opponent. And the motion would have been construed in your favor.
Does that count as summary judgment ?
The Old Man From Scene 24
If there's any Ryan Adams fans out there, WTF is this?
ust to be sure, I'm going to spend all day tomorrow watching football as well.
luckily for me I like soccer as well as the NFL so my football watching starts 2 hours early!
law schools would, historically, fail a sizable percentage after first year.
First year is a purposeful mind fuck. I would guess the percentage is more dropping out, than failing out.
nice tolkien name, btw
euphronius
My furry toed cat, Frodo, is old enough to remember when people asked, "Frodo, where did you get that name?"
I'm waiting for a new thread to cock and bull blog.
Shall I wait until...6:00 AM?
i have been to grad school ans LS and I must admit that LS is way more intense than (non PHD) grad school.
IMVWEHO
"I rather enjoyed seeing the Ducks lucky victory over Oklahoma."
the duckies won??? yeah! i gots me a soft spot for the duckies...who doesn't loves a duck?
ABC News headline:
Bush, Congress Butt Heads
Why yes, yes they are.
melior
You cannot tell me that wasn't intentional! I'm sure even deep within the Disney empire, there must be more than a few disgruntled trolls.
agent orange and old man if yer out there. how about juxtaposing these two pieces:
from the wapo 9/16
"In May 2003, a team of law enforcement experts from the Justice Department concluded that more than 6,600 foreign advisers were needed to help rehabilitate Iraq's police forces.
The White House dispatched just one: Bernie Kerik."
and put it together with a piece from an article in the sunday ny times:
BAGHDAD, Sept. 16 — Shiite militiamen and criminals entrenched throughout Iraq’s police and internal security forces are blocking recent efforts by some Iraqi leaders and the American military to root them out, a step critical to winning the trust of skeptical Sunni Arabs and quelling the sectarian conflict, Iraqi and Western officials say.
The new interior minister, Jawad al-Bolani, who oversees the police, lacks the political support to purge many of the worst offenders, including senior managers who tolerated or encouraged the infiltration of Shiite militias into the police under the previous government, according to interviews with more than a dozen officials who work with the ministry and the police.
No one expected a housecleaning to be easy, and some headway has been made in firing people. But despite that progress, recent difficulties reveal the magnitude of the task facing Mr. Bolani and Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. When he took office in late May, Mr. Maliki said one of his top goals was to reform the Shiite-led Interior Ministry, which had, to the minority Sunni Arabs, become synonymous with government complicity in abduction, torture and killing...
The ministry recently discovered that more than 1,200 policemen and other employees had been convicted years ago of murder, rape and other violent crimes, said a Western diplomat who has close contact with the ministry. Some were even on death row. Few have been fired.
three chances to draw connections, the first two don't count.
luckily for me I like soccer as well as the NFL so my football watching starts 2 hours early!
The Old Man From Scene 24
Tomorrow is a HUGE day! My roommate is a mad Arsenal fan, although he readily admits they're the 4th of the big 4 this year. Good fun for all.
Wombat,
Do you think he was schizophrenic? They're the right age. The guy in my class was twenty-three. Very sad, also. I don't think he really understood what was happening to him.
Yep, all the above, although I myself mostly work on LUSTs.
Don't we all.
Can a law be passed that over-rides a treaty (Geneva torture) with-out the same sort of ratifications the treaty law originally went through?
No. A treaty IS American law.
Yep, all the above, although I myself mostly work on LUSTs. - Buzz Bomb
Vicki is going to be so all over you when she hears you work in lust.
There would have had to be a motion by your opponent. And the motion would have been construed in your favor.
Ah-hah. no then.
RMJ, a constitutional question:
Can a law be passed that over-rides a treaty (Geneva torture) with-out the same sort of ratifications the treaty law originally went through?
Doug
Doubt it would ever come up, as there are usually simpler bases for finding such a law un-Con.
In the case of Bush's law, for example, due process springs to mind immediately. Hard to argue that isn't restricted by torture, and that it isn't basic to the legal system.
Res--my theory is that bipolars go into PhD programs instead of MD ones. I think the messed up sleep cycle screws with us too much.
euphronius,
Are you second or third year? Second year is a bitch. It was relentless.
lol, tolkien fans before it was "cool"
my brother gave me his 1978 edition of LoTR when i was 12 in 1990.
fan ever since.
Does that count as summary judgment ?
The Old Man From Scene 24
i don't think so. i believe when a judge (sua sponte) makes a determination of insufficient evidence it is considered a "declaration" but Civil procedure is very long ago away...
I'm a Ryan Adams fan, but lately I have drifted away from his music.
As much as some of his music really strikes a chord with me, the guy is a dick.
The site? I have no idea, maybe some nostalgia of childhood?
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I think I'd love law school, and I think I'd pass, if law school were the only thing on my mind. In other words, no work, no friends, nothing but study.
My new yard sign is going up tomorrow:
Torture Is For Cowards
(I was going to put put it up as:
"Torture Is For Pussies"; but Gal shot that down)
im in 2nd year of 4 year night program.
I will be bald soon.
night bats!!
I find it irksome that there are so many lawyers here. My higher degree does not cover this. Let us all change the subject to the Lenten Pastorals of the Irish Hierarchy in the late 1920s and how they are palpable rhetorical figurings in the work of Eimar O'Duffy.
And shit.
Tomorrow is a HUGE day! My roommate is a mad Arsenal fan, although he readily admits they're the 4th of the big 4 this year. Good fun for all.
yeah. the Man. U. vs Arsenal is the only one on live though (at least on my cable system) so I'm going to watch that, then go over to a friend's house to watch the Raiders lose (Ha ha!) BBQ and then watch the Chefs at Denver.
Good night, batsies!
I love you all, in a purely heterosexual way of which Gen. JC Christian would approve, of course.
Sleep tight, Draco.
I think the pukes are counting on the base thinking the Geneva Convention is part of the UN, and this the US getting out of the UN.
Let us all change the subject to the Lenten Pastorals of the Irish Hierarchy in the late 1920s and how they are palpable rhetorical figurings in the work of Eimar O'Duffy.
Yeah, okay. But what would my auntie, Gertrude, say?
Law school sucked, by the way. Even made grad school look good.
Seminary was fun, but that's clearly sign of a personality disorder.
btw, it is unclear as to whether "regular" congressional acts signed by potus can implicitly abridge or abrogate previous treaty law.
Res--my theory is that bipolars go into PhD programs instead of MD ones. I think the messed up sleep cycle screws with us too much.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Architecture and design students are fucking nuts. They pull all-nighters on a regular basis. And I thought I had it bad when I had to stay in the lab until midnight or 1:00, maybe once a month or so.
i believe when a judge (sua sponte) makes a determination of insufficient evidence it is considered a "declaration" but Civil procedure is very long ago away...
Is the summary judgement just civil? cos my situation was criminal 
Let us all change the subject to the Lenten Pastorals of the Irish Hierarchy in the late 1920s and how they are palpable rhetorical figurings in the work of Eimar O'Duffy.
"On Postmodernism and the wishbone offense"
In the case of Bush's law, for example, due process springs to mind immediately.
It is all of course rendered meaningless once you consider that they were always just making stuff up and now don't care about the law anyway.
RMJ: equal protection, too, methinks, since 14th amdt protections apply to persons, not just citizens, but the Bushies would doubtless disagree. Heavens to Murgatroyd, but they'd seem to be on the wrong side of history, legality, philosophy, and ethics in their position. I never thought they'd be bald enough to say what they're saying out loud, as my president and his administration...
No. A treaty IS American law.
Thers
That's correct. A President can sign it, but it has no binding effect on American citizens until the Senate approves it. Treaties are a fascinating area of law, and there exists a shload of them of which most citizens are unaware.
They hear the word "treaty" and they think, ah, well, we can break that shit whenever it suits us.
As much as some of his music really strikes a chord with me, the guy is a dick.
I try and seperate the two; as hard as it is sometimes.
Him & the Cardinals are the backing band on Willie Nelson's new album. He's doing a covers of "$1000 Wedding" (Gram Parsons) and a Leonard Cohen song.
It'd make a great wedding present, BTW...
Hi--is anyone aware of Speedy? He's an ace guy, jope you are aware of him.
Zap, I just finished design a CD for a brass band in the twin cities. They are called Southside Aces. Play lots of obscure Dixieland jazz sorta stuff.
Anyway, that storm head to WI?
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hey Draco,
how are you doing now?
hey Draco,
how are you doing now?
modern republicans are consistently on the wrong side of history - yet are the palimentary, executive and judicial majorities on a federal level. strange.
Hi--is anyone aware of Speedy? He's an ace guy, jope you are aware of him.
Draco
dude, you have a lot of aces in your hands and prolly not just on this blog use them/us when you need to...
Is the summary judgement just civil? cos my situation was criminal
The Old Man From Scene 24
Motion to Dismiss, I think. Burden is on prosecution in criminal cases, making it easy for the defense to deflect by simply saying: "Judge, they got nothin'."
Eimar O'Duffy was a lot of fun, actually. A gifted satirist; his bit about Cuchullain joining a tennis club is too funny...
Draco, maybe you've gone to sleep, but it was great talking to you tonight. Call me anytime. My wife enjoyed talking to you too. Hope we can get together sometime--we're not far from each other.
Call anytime, friend.
Peace to all,
Speedy
I think I'd love law school, and I think I'd pass, if law school were the only thing on my mind. In other words, no work, no friends, nothing but study.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Vick, you can succeed in anything you want to. But you're right, the law school process is stressful, and I saw a couple of marriages disintegrate because of it.
It is all of course rendered meaningless once you consider that they were always just making stuff up and now don't care about the law anyway.
Thers
You read my post on John Yoo's op-ed, I see.
Burden is on prosecution in criminal cases, making it easy for the defense to deflect by simply saying: "Judge, they got nothin'."
Thats about it, fascist bastards.
Now the next question is:
If this (a law over-riding treaty law) is determined to be un-constitutional, by the supreme court, shouldn't this hammer home the concept that we've got a law breaking, constitution breaking impeachable president?
Anyway, that storm head to WI?
Yeah, but it's heading ENE, or so. If you're in Madtown, you should be okay.
BTW, I'm honeymooning on Madeline Island. Can't wait!
DLC loses tax exempt status.
And it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of Bush enableers!
max plank-
it is also unclear as to what legal signifigance executive agreements have. but, they are certianly less "persuasive" than treaties.
I have maintained for a long tome that we need some amendments to reign in the executive. WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong now, especcially with modenr precedent thrown in.
but, this have been clear since the 70s at least and no one does anything about it.
Frank Rich is up:
The Longer the War, the Larger the Lies
By FRANK RICH
Fuck, I hate that firewall.
Going to bed.
Speedy is a mensch. But we knew already knew that.
Hang in there, Draco.
Stay away from the bagged spinach, ya'll.
Is the summary judgement just civil? cos my situation was criminal
The Old Man From Scene 24
I am not a criminal attorney but a video of the decedent killing himself should absolve you of any murder charges... a rose by any other name and shit
Big line of T-storms heading this way
DLC loses tax exempt status.
Tonight they're crying themselves to sleep on a sack of hundred dollar bills.
Now the next question is:
If this (a law over-riding treaty law) is determined to be un-constitutional, by the supreme court, shouldn't this hammer home the concept that we've got a law breaking, constitution breaking impeachable president?
Doug | 09.17.06 - 12:39 am | #
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the potus has the same ability to construe the constitution that hte scotus has.
if hte congress nad executive agree that some act is constitutional, i am hard pressed to see the scotus, especcially this one, disagreeing. if they didnt agree, they would just probably refuse to decide.
Madeline Island...
Can't get any more north in Wi! Such a beautiful area. Congrats Zap.
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They hear the word "treaty" and they think, ah, well, we can break that shit whenever it suits us.
/dam* right, said the
glad it sounds like everybodys doing ok tonight.
I'd better to bed. night all.
/dam* right, said the
ok sooners
Frigging Barry Switzer. I knew it.
RMJ, a constitutional question:
Can a law be passed that over-rides a treaty (Geneva torture) with-out the same sort of ratifications the treaty law originally went through?
Doug
Doug, thanks for asking this because this has been puzzling me as well.
Spousal Unit and I (neither lawyers) were debating it after a bit on CNN (typically inadequate but at least raised the subject) earlier today.
His thought was that it would take a ruling from the World Court since the matter is, allegedly, just a "clarification" of the clause about offense against personal dignity.
I held out for the assumption that it being a treaty it would have to go back to the entire group of countries which wrote/ratified the treaty to begin with. One reference I saw earlier today seemed to imply that it was not a post-WWII thing as I always thought but in fact went back to a conference at the Hague in 1907 (? or thereabouts).
Hell, half the countries in existence in 1907 aren't even around any more. That would seem to complicate matters further.
In any case the concentration of lawyers/law students here seems to make this an ideal venue to discuss the matter. Being as everyone here is presumed to be starting from the assumption that the Rule of Law and upholding of the Constitution in both letter and spirit is a Good Thing and in fact kinda fucking mandatory.
you must realize that scotus is very weak - in the federal sloar system, it is mercury to the executive jupiter and the congressional saturn.
RMJ: well done post on John Yoo; thanks as always. Quite the piece of work, he is. Wonder how many of the Federalist Society folk have actually read those Federalist Papers? It's really mind-boggling that anyone trained in law can make such an argument with a straight face...
If this (a law over-riding treaty law) is determined to be un-constitutional, by the supreme court, shouldn't this hammer home the concept that we've got a law breaking, constitution breaking impeachable president?
Doug
yes, why do you acks?
You read my post on John Yoo's op-ed, I see.
Well, I read your post, but I had come to the "they're making shit up" conclusion myself.
I'm not boasting, by the way; that they are making shit up is pretty goddamn obvious.
I saw a couple of marriages disintegrate because of it.
I saw a majority of marriages disintergrate because of it.
Xan -
one argument is that just as congress (with a presidential signature) can repeal or amend any legislation, so too can the repeal or amend any treaty.
Speedy--I'm sorry I've lost your numberr!!!. Can you please call me back, 404 352 6375
RARELY has a television network presented a more perfectly matched double feature. President Bush's 9/11 address on Monday night interrupted ABC's "Path to 9/11" so seamlessly that a single network disclaimer served them both: "For dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, as well as time compression."
No kidding: "The Path to 9/11" was false from the opening scene, when it put Mohamed Atta both in the wrong airport (Boston instead of Portland, Me.) and on the wrong airline (American instead of USAirways). It took Mr. Bush but a few paragraphs to warm up to his first fictionalization for dramatic purposes: his renewed pledge that "we would not distinguish between the terrorists and those who harbor or support them." Only days earlier the White House sat idly by while our ally Pakistan surrendered to Islamic militants in its northwest frontier, signing a "truce" and releasing Al Qaeda prisoners. Not only will Pakistan continue to harbor terrorists, Osama bin Laden probably among them, but it will do so without a peep from Mr. Bush.
You'd think that after having been caught concocting the scenario that took the nation to war in Iraq, the White House would mind the facts now. But this administration understands our culture all too well. This is a country where a cable news network (MSNBC) offers in-depth journalism about one of its anchors (Tucker Carlson) losing a prime-time dance contest and where conspiracy nuts have created a cottage industry of books and DVD's by arguing that hijacked jets did not cause 9/11 and that the 9/11 commission was a cover-up. (The fictionalized "Path to 9/11," supposedly based on the commission's report, only advanced the nuts' case.) If you're a White House stuck in a quagmire in an election year, what's the percentage in starting to tell the truth now? It's better to game the system.
This guy who just left will talk your ear off. Gave me some really great casino boat gambling tips I may try this Thursday night. Also told me some really funny and interesting stories about some of his gaming escapades. Last week he gave me some really great tips on trout fishing. But jeez, I've got to work and it's hard to get him to leave sometimes. Anybody want some great gambling or trout fishing advice, let me know...
Ladies and gentlemen, the Nairobi Trio!
The untruths are flying so fast that untangling them can be a full-time job. Maybe that's why I am beginning to find Dick Cheney almost refreshing. As we saw on "Meet the Press" last Sunday, these days he helpfully signals when he's about to lie. One dead giveaway is the word context, as in "the context in which I made that statement last year." The vice president invoked "context" to try to explain away both his bogus predictions: that Americans would be greeted as liberators in Iraq and that the insurgency (some 15 months ago) was in its "last throes."
The other instant tip-off to a Cheney lie is any variation on the phrase "I haven't read the story." He told Tim Russert he hadn't read The Washington Post's front-page report that the bin Laden trail had gone "stone cold" or the new Senate Intelligence Committee report(PDF) contradicting the White House's prewar hype about nonexistent links between Al Qaeda and Saddam. Nor had he read a Times front-page article about his declining clout. Or the finding by Mohamed ElBaradei of the International Atomic Energy Agency just before the war that there was "no evidence of resumed nuclear activities" in Iraq. "I haven't looked at it; I'd have to go back and look at it again," he said, however nonsensically.
These verbal tics are so consistent that they amount to truth in packaging — albeit the packaging of evasions and falsehoods. By contrast, Condi Rice's fictions, also offered in bulk to television viewers to memorialize 9/11, are as knotty as a David Lynch screenplay. Asked by Chris Wallace of Fox News last Sunday if she and the president had ignored prewar "intelligence that contradicted your case," she refused to give up the ghost: "We know that Zarqawi was running a poisons network in Iraq," she insisted, as she continued to state again that "there were ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda" before the war.
Ms. Rice may be a terrific amateur concert pianist, but she's an even better amateur actress. The Senate Intelligence Committee report released only two days before she spoke dismissed all such ties. Saddam, who "issued a general order that Iraq should not deal with Al Qaeda," saw both bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as threats and tried to hunt down Zarqawi when he passed through Baghdad in 2002. As for that Zarqawi "poisons network," the Pentagon knew where it was and wanted to attack it in June 2002. But as Jim Miklaszewski of NBC News reported more than two years ago, the White House said no, fearing a successful strike against Zarqawi might "undercut its case for going to war against Saddam." Zarqawi, meanwhile, escaped.
btw, i should say htat I think the current executive is a war criminal and that the current congress is, at best, a cesspool.
I dont think the framers predicted such a terrible force as television.
euphronius: here's my favorite fantasy amendment:
The deployment of American troops outside our borders into harm's way shall be a per se impeachable offense, and will result in the removal from office of the President, Vice President, Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense, unless a 2/3 majority of Congress acting in joint session upholds their continued tenure within 90 days of the deployment.
Treaties keep the oil, the go juice flowing across the planet. The US would do nothing but shoot itself in the ass to go around breaking its international treaty obligations.
A treaty brought this nation into official existence. They are quite important.
I held out for the assumption that it being a treaty it would have to go back to the entire group of countries which wrote/ratified the treaty to begin with
Sorta, but in the sense that you'd need a new treaty. We're bound by this one until we have another one.
There are a lot of insane and obnoxious aspects to Shrub's request for "clarification"; among them is that all other signatories really need to say is "you should have brought this up before you signed the treaty, asshole."
"Gave me some really great casino boat gambling tips "
"great tips on trout fishing"
Casting the Hardway?
euphronius, thanks. I can see how they could repeal it, as in rescind the ratification, withdraw from the Geneva Conventions entirely --but I can't see how they can keep it in force but amend it, even to the extent of adding/subtracting/"clarifying" bits of the wording, without going through either the World Court as mentioned or persuading [pause for uproarious laughter at the prospect] all the other signatories to make the same change so everybody's agreeing to the same thing.
It was in an interview with Ted Koppel for the Discovery Channel, though, that Ms. Rice rose to a whole new level of fictionalizing by wrapping a fresh layer of untruth around her most notorious previous fiction. Asked about her dire prewar warning that a smoking gun might come in the form of a mushroom cloud, she said that "it wasn't meant as hyperbole." She also rewrote history to imply that she had been talking broadly about the nexus between "terrorism and a nuclear device" back then, not specifically Saddam — a rather deft verbal sleight-of-hand.
Ms. Rice sets a high bar, but Mr. Bush, competitive as always, was not to be outdone in his Oval Office address. Even the billing of his appearance was fiction. "It's not going to be a political speech," Tony Snow announced, knowing full well that the 17-minute text was largely Cuisinarted scraps from other recent political speeches, including those at campaign fund-raisers. Moldy canards of yore (Saddam "was a clear threat") were interspersed with promising newcomers: Iraq will be "a strong ally in the war on terror." As is often the case, the president was technically truthful. Iraq will be a strong ally in the war on terror — just not necessarily our ally. As Mr. Bush spoke, the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, was leaving for Iran to jolly up Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Perhaps the only way to strike back against this fresh deluge of fiction is to call the White House's bluff. On Monday night, for instance, Mr. Bush flatly declared that "the safety of America depends on the outcome of the battle in the streets of Baghdad." He once again invoked Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, asking, "Do we have the confidence to do in the Middle East what our fathers and grandfathers accomplished in Europe and Asia?"
Rather than tune this bluster out, as the country now does, let's try a thought experiment. Let's pretend everything Mr. Bush said is actually true and then hold him to his word. If the safety of America really depends on the outcome of the battle in the streets of Baghdad, then our safety is in grave peril because we are losing that battle. The security crackdown announced with great fanfare by Mr. Bush and Mr. Maliki in June is failing. Rosy American claims of dramatically falling murder rates are being challenged by the Baghdad morgue. Perhaps most tellingly, the Pentagon has nowstopped including in its own tally the large numbers of victims killed by car bombings and mortar attacks in sectarian warfare.
And that's the good news. Another large slice of Iraq, Anbar Province (almost a third of the country), is slipping away so fast that a senior military official told NBC News last week that 50,000 to 60,000 additional ground forces were needed to secure it, despite our huge sacrifice in two savage battles for Falluja. The Iraqi troops "standing up" in Anbar are deserting at a rate as high as 40 percent.
I saw a majority of marriages disintergrate because of it.
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by marriage.
"Even the most sanguine optimist cannot yet conclude we are winning," John Lehman, the former Reagan Navy secretary, wrote of the Iraq war last month. So what do we do next? Given that the current course is a fiasco, and that the White House demonizes any plan or timetable for eventual withdrawal as "cut and run," there's only one immediate alternative: add more manpower, and fast. Last week two conservative war supporters, William Kristol and Rich Lowry, called for exactly that — "substantially more troops." These pundits at least have the courage of Mr. Bush's convictions. Shouldn't Republicans in Congress as well?
After all, if what the president says is true about the stakes in Baghdad, it's tantamount to treason if Bill Frist, Rick Santorum and John Boehner fail to rally their party's Congressional majority to stave off defeat there. We can't emulate our fathers and grandfathers and whip today's Nazis and Communists with 145,000 troops. Roosevelt and Truman would have regarded those troop levels as defeatism.
The trouble, of course, is that we don't have any more troops, and supporters of the war, starting with Mr. Bush, don't want to ask American voters to make any sacrifices to provide them. They don't want to ask because they know the voters will tell them no. In the end, that is the hard truth the White House is determined to obscure, at least until Election Day, by carpet-bombing America with still more fictions about Iraq.
Prof wombat:
put in language where the impeachement is a matter of the operation of law - i.e, it doesnt even take congressional action, the executive is just 'removed", and I agree.
euphronius: here's my favorite fantasy amendment:
I was thinking today that in the case of attacking another country that it wouldn't happen until a sufficient number of people had volunteered for the campaign. So if Bush wanted to invade Iraq with 150,000 troops they'd have to get 150,000 citizens to sign up and get trained for it & not use the regular military.
Draco, I'll call you soon. Thanks to you, my wife and I are actually going to have SEX tonight!
Night all!!!!!!
PEACE!
Buzz Bomb--email me at sallyh@surfcity.net
I'll give you my NYT password and user id. I have Times Select.
HEY-OOOOO
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euphronius: that was exactly my intention, that impeachment would result under operation of law unless affirmatively rejected by a majority of congress...I have to learn how to draft contsitutional amendments more precisely...
Speedy and the Mrs--Whoa
As things gel into to place, it has been a rotten week, it finally clicked.
The only thing a Republican stands for is supporting the Bush administration. All other disputes and differences between parties are gone. Tirades about entitlements and taxes have died off pretty much. I can't think of anything that ultimately doesn't really just reflect a defense of Bush, irrational or unexplained.
Xan-
that's is exactly why it is an open question.
no one know for sure.
but if your question is "can the legalize past actions of the executive" i think the answer is yes (maybe).
it is past the point of black/white constitutional law at this point and answers will only come at the point of the partisan sword.
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by marriage.
NOW you tell me!!
Buzz Bomb--email me at sallyh@surfcity.net
I'll give you my NYT password and user id. I have Times Select.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
And post the article here...
So the dog just decided she wanted to sleep outside. Maybe she's meeting a coyote for dalliance?
Anyway, time to hit the sack: n'ght, all
And post the article here...
er...
or better yet, instead of removing the executive, as that is kind of wierd, just have an automatic call for a new election for pres if he keeps troops out there for longer than 3 months.
I saw the best minds of my generation
Jogging the streets at dawn
Looking for a Starbucks' frappaccino...
And post the article here...
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I think someone just did!
ok, good night all
I'm not sure it will get you behind the firewall, but here's the link: Frank Rich's column 9-17
Oh fuck!!!
Bush is speaking to the UN Assembly on Tuesday?
What *nobody* has been able to explain to me, is why the US Congress was let off of the hook by not declaring a formal state of war with Iraq.
And it pisses me off. That shit was specifically addressed in the Constitution.
Oh fuck!!!
Bush is speaking to the UN Assembly on Tuesday?
Zap Rowsdower, Soonly Wed
Can't he even wait until after the elections to start lobbing nukes at Iran?
"And it pisses me off. That shit was specifically addressed in the Constitution.
Max Planck"
And that means what? ( With these maniacs in charge)
Can't he even wait until after the elections to start lobbing nukes at Iran?
He will, the saber rattling makes the price of oil go up which makes his ratings go down.
"And it pisses me off. That shit was specifically addressed in the Constitution.
Max Planck,
It is equivalent to the congress passing a law that gives the president the power to set taxes. They passed a law that gave their constitutional authority to another branch of government. Byrd made this very clear in his speeches against the resolution. The fact that Kerry, Clinton, etc., voted for it gives one a bitter taste in one's mouth.
Funny (in a sad way):
"There's no question that people are less afraid to speak up after what happened in Iraq," said one intelligence official. "There's less of an inclination to let Cheney and Rumsfeld run free."
Well, I read your post, but I had come to the "they're making shit up" conclusion myself.
I'm not boasting, by the way; that they are making shit up is pretty goddamn obvious.
Thers
It was sarcasm on my part. That they have created a completely fictional legal system is obvious.
Whether they can make us all live in it, is another matter.
that impeachment would result under operation of law unless affirmatively rejected by a majority of congress.
again, the standard is "high" crimes and misdemeanors and any Congress (reb or Dem) will decide as to the highness of such. All that "for the greater good" and terror bullshit will be pranced about and nothing will come of it other than polidicks
that impeachment would result under operation of law unless affirmatively rejected by a majority of congress.
again, the standard is "high" crimes and misdemeanors and any Congress (reb or Dem) will decide as to the highness of such. All that "for the greater good" and terror bullshit will be pranced about and nothing will come of it other than polidicks
OK. On any other day of the year, the mere fact that the wind was coming from the west would have been justification enough for the oil companies to have colluded to raise the price of gasoline 30 to 50 cents in a matter of 3 weeks. However, with the election less than 60 days away, the Israel/Lebanon War, the war in Iraq, the impending war with Iran, and the loss of over half of BP's output from Prudhoe Bay, we see gas prices going down.
Not FUCKING SUSPICIOUS or anything, is is it?
Oh, fuckin' *SNAP*
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6091500996.html
I can't help but feel sorry for my old Republican friends in Congress who are fighting for their political lives. After all, it must be tough explaining to voters at their local Baptist church's Keep Congress Conservative Day that it was their party that took a $155 billion surplus and turned it into a record-setting $400 billion deficit.
Consider the source, as they say.
euphr, thanks again. I guess that was the underlying gist of my questions, "how is this sort of thing done?" I couldn't think of a case where this had ever been done but figured if it had, somebody here would know about it.
that's the song they all sing toward the end of "Magnolia", isn't it?
Mary Landrieu: "And Americans are most certainly tired of leadership that, despite documented mistake after mistake after mistake . . . never admit that they ever do anything wrong." 9/17
Heh, I almost forgot I had a senator...
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Hi incog. Draco's looking out for you.
The "Aaaam a uniter not a divider" sure is working out for the chimp isn't it? Even the Republicans are fighting each other over his policies.
Via Roger Ailes, "Headline of the Day":
Brendan Nyhan -- Imbecile or Fruitcake?
It was sarcasm on my part.
Oh. I was guessing litodes.
Now days are dragon-ridden, the nightmare
Rides upon sleep: a drunken soldiery
Can leave the mother, murdered at her door,
To crawl in her own blood, and go scot-free;
The night can sweat with terror as before
We pieced our thoughts into philosophy,
And planned to bring the world under a rule,
Who are but weasels fighting in a hole.
I wish YouTube had Groove Armada--Hands of Time video. All I can find is a brief blurb at Barnes and Noble.
http://btobmusic.barnesandnoble....&disc=1&
track=3
9/11 was an inside job.
All our 3,000 war dead and 25,000 war maimed and half trillion war dollars have achieved is making Saddam Hussein (remember him?!), grow a beard.
Where's Ror? He busted me out so bad because I was being sympathetic to his loss.
My sister drowned in the White River, our house burned downed the day afetr Christmas the next year. Everything I had ever written got lost in a credit card debacle with a storage unit. My old man and best friend have wrapped their lips round .357s in the past few years.
I come here for commonality and brotherhood.
I'm so pissed 'cause I couldn't express myself better, and, at the same time I'm pissed because I was being authentic and got shit on.
Too thin-skinned, I guess.
Too thin-skinned, I guess.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 09.17.06 - 1:30 am | #
It's all about the love here, so I don't know why you feel bad.
Everyone go to bed? Think I will go read. Thanks Echidne and Sallyh. Night all..
TPM, try not to get too pissed. Nine outta 10 times, people don't mean anything badly how you take it especially on the Intertubes where words sometimes get crossed from their real meaning...
It's all about the love here, so I don't know why you feel bad.
It usually is about the love. I feel bad because I don't feel comfortable here.
This used to be a refuge.
TPM, try not to get too pissed.
You are right.
Leopold Von Sacher-Masoch
Not nice.
.
No comments for a half an hour? On a Saturday/
WTF?
Hi. Anyone who wants to talk, just peck me on the head.
I'm to bed.
Peace to all you sane ones out there.
TPM.
What Incog said, with the added advice that, Jeez, dude, from what you've endured, try to find some solace with a pro. We're just winging it here.
Peace be with you.
Leopold Von Sacher-Masoch
Not nice.
.
Steve French | 09.17.06 - 1:39 am | #
I was being sarcastic, but where were you when rorschach was browbeating TPM the other night?
I just looked around, and there were no posts here...
never mind. Suffice it to say that it had nothing to do with refreshing the screen.
It matters not.
FUCK BILLARY WITH HER OWN COCK!
STAND UP TO FASCISTS OR YOU ARE ONE!
SHE'S 1 & 1/2!
Too thin-skinned, I guess.
TinyPorcelainMouse
fuck, I am sorry for your losses. no one should have to experience such shit. but we have. i have come to know the poster ROR and i don't/would never think he had any malice intended... but i may be able to help you if it it hurts to much- you can email me if you like - Mack04@quepasacom. we have to stay together.
Too thin-skinned, I guess.
TinyPorcelainMouse
fuck, I am sorry for your losses. no one should have to experience such shit. but we have. i have come to know the poster ROR and i don't/would never think he had any malice intended... but i may be able to help you if it it hurts to much- you can email me if you like - Mack04@quepasacom. we have to stay together.
but where were you when rorschach was browbeating TPM the other night?
Oh my.
TPM is way less offensive than some of the others who post here, including me....
ACTUALLY ASSASSINATING IRAQI WOMEN & CHILDREN?
HILLARY WANTS TO SEND MORE TROOPS!
MAKING A FICTIONAL FILM ABOUT GEORGE W. BUSH BEING SHOT?
HILLARY OBJECTS!
FUCK HER & HER BUSH STEP-SON HUSBAND!
OK. No sarcasm.
TPM:
1) If, by the time your life is over you need more than one hand to count all of your true friends, you are more blessed than most.
2) You never lose friends -- you just find out who they are. In the process, you find out who and what everybody else is, too.
AL GORE LOVES JOE LIEBERMAN
JOE LIEBERMAN LOVES GEORGE W. BUSH
BILL CLINTON LOVES GEORGE H. W. BUSH
BUT WHO LOVES HILLARY?
KARL ROVE.
Can you spell B-R-E-A-S-T-S? A look at Ann Althouse' s Site Meter -- and what she has to say about it.
In the process, you find out who and what everybody else is, too.
Leopold Von Sacher-Masoch
In the process, you hopefully find out who you are.
Weirdest. thread. ever. Sometimes it hits one am, sometimes much later.
Just a thought... why didn't Althouse reference Mel Gibson's insights on the female anatomy by using the term Sugar Tits?
I was being sarcastic, but where were you when rorschach was browbeating TPM the other night?
Sorry I misintrepeted your intention, I didn't catch that exchange.
TPM, my heartfelt sympathies go out to you.
Peace, all.
This is why I wait til 2 am to post most times.
I'm witless and groping at the ether.
This is why I wait til 2 am to post most times.
I'm witless and groping at the ether.
george bush rose to power after crushing ann richards.
In the process, you hopefully find out who you are.
Max Planck | 09.17.06 - 1:51 am | #
Who comes here expressly to do that?
I'm witless and groping at the ether.
TinyPorcelainMouse
Oh. come on, sweetie. I
I'm witless and groping at the ether.
TinyPorcelainMouse
Yet you're able to communicate with others. Your spirit wants to thrive. You're beaten down now, but that's a long way from the end.
Do something simple tomorrow that gives your soul a bit of enjoyment. Take a bike ride, have an ice cream, any stupid little thing that will remind you that you're alive and can enjoy something.
A VOTE FOR HILLARY IS A VOTE FOR BUSH.
FUCK THAT BITCH AND HER WIFE!
This place gets really retarded late nights.
Sorry I misintrepeted your intention, I didn't catch that exchange.
Thanks. No problem. ror had apparently just discovered that he'd lost beaucoup personally penned literature, and was reeling. TPM attempted to offer encouragement and sympathy. rorschach decided that TPM's comments were insipid and uninformed and proceeded to ream his well-wisher mercilessly over a period of at least 20 minutes. Everything TPM tried to say thereafter merely increased the punishment.
Do something simple tomorrow that gives your soul a bit of enjoyment
Took the most beautiful red-headed three year old to the county fair tonight.
She and daddy rode $60 worth of tickets through dust and cotton candy and a sunset from the ferris wheel that we will never forget.
Great advise.
This place gets really retarded late nights.
it really does
Actually, no. This place rocks. It's just an off night.
I speak from experience, so fuck you very much, and often, and hard.
I hope the democrats win in november.
I think these google ads are guaged off the content of your posts.
Vicki,
I'm still up. Em's out and about. And I just waded through some waist-high sewage that is otherwise known as the MN rightist blogosphere.
Man, they're nasty.
Everything TPM tried to say thereafter merely increased the punishment.
I'm an RN. I was pained. Probably Pollyannish. Coulda been the Bourbon/Steve Earle.
Leopold Von Sacher-Masoch | 09.17.06 - 2:04 am
Beats reading Terry C on an angry night.
This place gets really retarded late nights.
it really does | 09.17.06 - 2:03 am | #
You have two choices then, as I see it:
1) Leave, either quietly or spitting, swearing, and cursing.
2) Attempt to school us, the unworthy, and make us better without exposing your own soft underbelly.
Coulda been the Bourbon/Steve Earle.
TinyPorcelainMouse
I'm currently going bourbon/Ryan Adams.
But Earle rawks!
The coming civil war will be welcomed by all as another form of entertainment.
I'm currently going bourbon/Ryan Adams
"16 days" always makes the mix.
Test!
Zap, no longer can do, which is why I pick my place of posts carefully.
Michigan is struggling so much, and it isn't the fault of Granholm.
Zap, no longer can do, which is why I pick my place of posts carefully.
Michigan is struggling so much, and it isn't the fault of Granholm.
The coming civil war will be welcomed by all as another form of entertainment.
Just like the first battle of manassas junction.
Michigan is struggling so much
South Bend would disagree.
This thread is locked on 1.03 am.
no longer can do, which is why I pick my place of posts carefully.
Michigan is struggling so much, and it isn't the fault of Granholm.
I rarely do so myself, but the US House is about to get it's first Muslim Rep; and he hails from the fair city of Minneapolis. That has the rightists in a tizzy I've never seen the likes of.
Oh, and he's a 'peace-first' kinda guy. That pisses them off even more.
What sad people.