I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Whoop de doo!
Fuck you, Charlie Rangel!
Fuck you, Charlie Rangel!
Depressing, isn't it?
So nice, halsocan forced me to say it twice.
Morning. What's wrong with Charlie Rangel?
Yes, it's depressing and infuriating.
Haven't you heard, Atrios?
We're winning!
What's wrong with Charlie Rangel?
When I was over a friend's house last night, I saw Rangel on Situation Room defending Dubya from that big meanie Hugo Chavez. Charlie gave Bush a tongue bath worthy of McCain. He was also happy to perpetuate the lie that The UN is in "his district".
Yeah, well, at one time, George Bush was saying that "getting bin Laden" was the most important thing evah. And another time, he was claiming that tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy would increase government revenues. And another time, he said he wouldn't touch social security reserves.
He just says whatever he thinks will get his ass off the hot seat at any given moment. He doesn't actually mean any of it, you know.
Cheney, dumber than Bush. Talk about Chauncey Gardner, Dick Cheney is that character without any redeeming features.
Rangel also said that no one "outside the family" is allowed to criticise Bush while in The US(see my earlier pint about The UN, same lie). It's nice to know that he thinks The US should be run like the Corleone family.
I saw the truth in his eyes, ya know?
As I said yesterday, I don't know what Charlie's game is. His constituents already think Bush is the devil, so it's not to win points from them. Maybe he's trying to appear more statesmanlike in preparation for being a committee chair er the Dems win the House in November.
Just a couple more Friedmans and we'll have turned a corner.
Now some pigfucker Boston city councilman wants to replace the Citgo sign in Kenmore Sq with a US flag. What bullshit.
Maybe he's trying to appear more statesmanlike in preparation for being a committee chair er the Dems win the House in November.
Maybe he's just trying to kiss Bush's ass.
Rangel also said that no one "outside the family" is allowed to criticise Bush while in The US(see my earlier pint about The UN, same lie). It's nice to know that he thinks The US should be run like the Corleone family.
BlakNo1 | 09.23.06 - 9:19 am | #
Isn't that just the biggest load o' crap?
The US reserves the right to fuck with any and every nation on the planet, but if any one them should dare to say mean words about Bush... that's just over the line!
Pathetic.
He just says whatever he thinks will get his ass off the hot seat at any given moment. He doesn't actually mean any of it, you know.
Jennifer
Now watch this drive!
When I started freaking out, my friends said to me "You shouldn't get so upset, these politicians are just two sides of the same coin anyway."
Maybe he's trying to appear more statesmanlike in preparation for being a committee chair er the Dems win the House in November.
Sounds entirely plausible.
By the way, today is the first day of Ramadan. If the pattern of the last couple years holds, that means a month of higher than usual Americans casualties in Iraq.
Hunh.
Charlie Rangel's pretty political.
bin Laden dead - AGAIN?
whatever...
The French defense ministry on Saturday called for an internal investigation of the leak of an intelligence document that raises the possibility that Osama bin Laden may have died of typhoid in Pakistan a month ago but said the report of the death remained unverified.
“The information defused this morning by the l’Est Republicain newspaper concerning the possible death of Osama bin Laden cannot be confirmed,” a Defense Ministry statement said.
i believe everything, i believe nothing...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
Better them than me.
And this surprises you why?
He fucks up everything he touches.
Look at Laura.
I wonder if the iraqis extract any info when they use their torture methods.
Or do they just do it for kicks?
Yep, heckuva job in Iraq, fellas!
America's Least Wanted
bin Laden dead - AGAIN?
Operation Ignore claims another victim! The Chimpster bravely waited for Osama to die of old age!
By the way, today is the first day of Ramadan. If the pattern of the last couple years holds, that means a month of higher than usual Americans casualties in Iraq.
Yup. That's the "tradition". Higher Iraqi casualties, too. That's why so many died in the truck explosion: stocking up on kerosene before Ramadan.
Last throes of the Iraqi insurgency, day 481.
Look at Laura.
I'd rather not thankyouverymuch.
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Three years now and still no statue. What 'up Mr. Perle. btw How much money have you and Trireme Associates made on this war so far?
Richard Perle - Sept 22, 2003 And a year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush. There is no doubt that, with the exception of a very small number of people close to a vicious regime, the people of Iraq have been liberated and they understand that they've been liberated. And it is getting easier every day for Iraqis to express that sense of liberation.
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The US reserves the right to fuck with any and every nation on the planet, but if any one them should dare to say mean words about Bush... that's just over the line!
Pathetic.
rorschach
That does seems to be Rangel's point. He overlooks the fact that Bush has brought such shame to the office that the whole world feels free to make humiliating comments about Bush/the presidency.
Look at Laura.
I'd rather not thankyouverymuch.
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spork_incident | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 9:30 am | #
I'm with you, buddy. I'd rather not plummet into the depths of those soulless eyes...
New drinking game: try to read something by Richard Perle from before the war. If you pee your pants laughing, you have to take a drink.
While the civil war rages, the military -industrial-intelligence-imperator complex is hard at work building a permanent imperial base in Iraq. Check out tomdispatch for a scary summary of how deep the roots already go, including a brand new $60 million prison on just one of our several "enduring bases" (Pentagon speak).
Damn this goddam empire.
And it is getting easier every day for Iraqis to express that sense of liberation.
Yes, experiencing a sense of liberation from one's body is getting easier.
Okay gotta go.
Laters.
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It's nice to know that he thinks The US should be run like the Corleone family.
BlakNo1
The US is being run like the Corleone family. The point is whether this is a good thing or not. In this instance Rangel seems to think it is.
brand new $60 million prison on just one of our several "enduring bases" (Pentagon speak).
Why don't they just give Halliburton the sacks of cash, and forego the charade of having to build stuff?
The death toll is now reported to be 35 people.
If Rangel thinks he can determine who says what in "his" district, I guess it's time to move the U.N. out of the US.
Has anybody seen the Black Dahlia? I kinda want to see it, but the reviews have not been great. The book was terrific, and I don't want to ruin that with a badly done film.
Anybody?
Yes, experiencing a sense of liberation from one's body is getting easier.
pie | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 9:32 am | #
At long last, it all becomes clear!
The ultimate solution for Iraq is astral projection!
Did bin Laden Die of Typhoid in Pakistan Last Month? [Andy McCarthy]
I dunno. Get one of your wingnut psychic pals to take a shot.
Has anybody seen the Black Dahlia? I kinda want to see it, but the reviews have not been great. The book was terrific, and I don't want to ruin that with a badly done film.
Anybody?
TJ | 09.23.06 - 9:34 am | #
Don't go see it.
It is a horrible mess.
I dunno. Get one of your wingnut psychic pals to take a shot.
Lime Rickey
Is Nancy Reagan's astrologer still around?
The US is being run like the Corleone family. The point is whether this is a good thing or not. In this instance Rangel seems to think it is.
R. McGeddon
It seems to me Rangel was making the point that the criticism was rude cause Chavez was IN the US at the time he said it.
Frankly that's an even more bizarre POV.
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Goddamn the news is still so depressing.
Morning BlakNo1.
Once we started treating money as political speech, we were fucked. Speech it may be, just not protected speech.
Hi TJ!!! 
Don't go see it.
It is a horrible mess.
rorschach
Thank you. Anybody have any recommendations? Mr. TJ and I were thinking of going to a movie, and we haven't been in a while, and don't want to waste our little bit of fun money on something crappy.
Money + Jesus = Votes.
Is Nancy Reagan's astrologer still around?
Dr. Wu
Yes.
bin Laden dead - AGAIN?
whatever...
profmarcus
Stumpy Joe BinLadin.
However, consider this:
UBL is thought to have died on August 23.
Saudis hear about it on or before September 4.
Pakistan and the Waziris sign a non-agression pact on September 5.
About that treaty, the Christian Science Monitor reports: "Although Mr. bin Laden is thought to be in the area, Pakistani officials have given mixed signals as to whether he would still be considered a target by government forces. In his blog for ABC News, Brian Ross reports that Pakistani Major General Shaukat Sultan said in an interview that bin Laden 'would not be taken into custody, as long as [he] is being like a peaceful citizen.' Soon after in a statement, however, the Pakistani ambassador to the US said, 'If [bin Laden] is in Pakistan, today or any time later, he will be taken into custody and brought to justice.' The ambassador also said that Gen. Sultan's comments were taken out of context, though Mr. Ross presents the transcript of the interview in his blog."
It certainly seems plausible that UBL's death was the catalyst for concluding an agreement, and that the Saudis were informed of the death in context of that agreement.
But if our allies the Saudis and the Pakistanis knew, then the US knew. So, if all of this in fact turns out to be true, what will be the public reaction that Bush and Associates went forward with Terror Tour Ver. 5.0 despite being aware of this report?
Once we started treating money as political speech, we were fucked. Speech it may be, just not protected speech.
Old Ironsides | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 9:36 am | #
Actually, we were fucked earlier than that--when we started treating corporations as persons.
Corporate = person combined with money = speech means goodbye democracy, it was nice knowin' ya.
Everybody gives money, nobody votes.
Thanks, Moe! But from your link, I see this:
Joan Quigley, of San Francisco, is a famous astrologer best known for her top secret devotion to the Reagan White House in the 1980s. She was considered apolitical, and therefore trustworthy, when it became known how much power she wielded during those years, because of how little she was willing to use that power for personal or political gain.
Guess we don't have to worry about her advising the Chimpster. He'd never let anyone like that into the White House.
Blak...
I'm pretty sure Rangel was all rangeled about what Chavez was sayin while walking around in Harlem, Not what he said on the floor of the UN.
Thank you. Anybody have any recommendations? Mr. TJ and I were thinking of going to a movie, and we haven't been in a while, and don't want to waste our little bit of fun money on something crappy.
TJ | 09.23.06 - 9:37 am | #
I haven't yet seen it, but have heard rave reviews, and I'm a Bukowski fan, so I'd be willing to bet on Factotum.
Ronnie Wise's work in the Delta is the most important thing evah.
UBL is thought to have died on August 23.
Saudis hear about it on or before September 4.
Pakistan and the Waziris sign a non-agression pact on September 5.
So if Musharref sends a little DNA to the US as proof of bin Laden's demise, could that be the little thing he and Bush have planned?
Surprise!
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He fucks up everything he touches. Look at Laura.
watertiger
Call me crazy, but I don't think there's been much of either in a very long time.
Clerks II was also enjoyable...
OT, but I got an email from the Lamont campaign recommending this GQ article about the primary campaign. Started reading it, and it's pretty good.
OT, but I got an email from the Lamont campaign recommending this GQ article about the primary campaign. Started reading it, and it's pretty good.
Bolivar County, one of America's least literate places, where 41% of 40,000 residents can't read
Holy crap.
So, if all of this in fact turns out to be true, what will be the public reaction that Bush and Associates went forward with Terror Tour Ver. 5.0 despite being aware of this report?
jac | 09.23.06 - 9:38 am | #
Hooray! Bin Laden is dead! George Bush sure is doing a great job, we should reelect some republicans so he can keep torturing people!
/the sheeple
sorry, I hold no faith in the ability of the average American to recognize and resist such propaganda, particularly when, if OBL really is dead, it's going to be a media frenzy.
So if Musharref sends a little DNA to the US as proof of bin Laden's demise, could that be the little thing he and Bush have planned?
Surprise!
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Agent Orange
I don't see how UBL dying of Typhoid helps Dim Son. I can see it hurting him, if (a) he knew before 9/11, and (b) he still went on the Terror Tour.
So if Musharref sends a little DNA to the US as proof of bin Laden's demise, could that be the little thing he and Bush have planned?
Surprise!
Shrubbery gets no credit for allowing bin Laden to die free and of natural causes.
So if Musharref sends a little DNA to the US as proof of bin Laden's demise, could that be the little thing he and Bush have planned?
Surprise!
I don't see how it helps Bush that bin Ladin died a natural death.
Chimpy invited some hate radio hosts to the WH. He let them all suck on the barrel of Saddam's pistol.
Clearly the Chimpster scared OBL to death. I think OBL even accepted Jesus as his Lord and Personal Savior before he died.
rangeled about what Chavez was sayin while walking around in Harlem, Not what he said on the floor of the UN.
The earlier point still stands. Rangel's model for The US is The Godfather. Bush is allowed to go around the world and spew his bullshit, but when a world leader comes here and tells the truth, they're BAD BAD BAD.
Corporate = person combined with money = speech means goodbye democracy, it was nice knowin' ya.
rorschach |
Perfect analysis.
Cure? A different way of financing elections so that our politicos don't spend all their time dialing for dollars and letting their donors call the shots.
Expect a tape NLT tomorrow morning.
He let them all suck on the barrel of Saddam's pistol.
Lime Rickey
Rush was disappointed he didn't to get to suck on something else.
Atta - Good blog. I left a comment over to your place.
Bolivar County, one of America's least literate places, where 41% of 40,000 residents can't read
So all the info they get is word-of-mouth.
But if our allies the Saudis and the Pakistanis knew, then the US knew. So, if all of this in fact turns out to be true, what will be the public reaction that Bush and Associates went forward with Terror Tour Ver. 5.0 despite being aware of this report?
jac |
That'll be an easy one for the Bushistas to "explain". It'll be like the police witholding specific information about a crime or not revealing the truth as part of the on going search for bin Laden's buddies.
Really no political problem explaining holding back the news...if it's true.
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Clearly the Chimpster scared OBL to death. I think OBL even accepted Jesus as his Lord and Personal Savior before he died.
Dr. Wu
The Scorecard Thus Far:
Number of Times Dead
Paul McCartney = 1
Elvis = 0
Osama = 16
Reports out of Pakistan, released through the French newspaper, LeMond, state that George W. Bush has been brain dead since early in 69. . . Stanford Binet tests confirm this. . . developing.
Just checked and Factotum is not playing here. Which is a shame, because it looks interesting.
The boys saw Clerks 2 and loved it, but I think it's already gone.
We'll probably end up seeing All the King's Men just because it will be fun to see all the familiar places where it was filmed. Mr. TJ spent a few days on Oak Street when they were filming, just watching the procedure and chatting with the security guards (off-duty NOPD). He learned some interesting stuff.
Soon after in a statement, however, the Pakistani ambassador to the US said, 'If [bin Laden] is in Pakistan, today or any time later, he will be taken into custody and brought to justice.'
If Khan is any example, I do not trust Pakistani justice.
I don't see how UBL dying of Typhoid helps Dim Son. I can see it hurting him, if (a) he knew before 9/11, and (b) he still went on the Terror Tour.
jac | 09.23.06 - 9:42 am
Of course, the MCM has to actually report the truth, not just regurgitate the WH spittle (or whatever) they swallow so easily.
Well, thank goodness there's no civil war going on in Iraq.
I know this because Our Glorious Leader has said so.
All there has been peaceful, just, and calm, ever since he declared Mission Accomplished.
Soon he will achieve the same safety, security, and liberty for all of us here in the USA.
Isn't that something to look forward to?
Bolivar County, one of America's least literate places, where 41% of 40,000 residents can't read
The illeteracy rate in the entire province of New Brunswick is even higher:
Among adults aged 16 to 65, about 42 per cent scored below Level 3 in prose literacy, which is considered the threshold needed for coping in society.
Cure? A different way of financing elections so that our politicos don't spend all their time dialing for dollars and letting their donors call the shots.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 9:43 am | #
It would also be nice if states would remember that they have the power to revoke corporate charters when corporations behave in resolutely destructive ways.
When I was over a friend's house last night, I saw Rangel on Situation Room defending Dubya from that big meanie Hugo Chavez. Charlie gave Bush a tongue bath worthy of McCain. He was also happy to perpetuate the lie that The UN is in "his district".
BlakNo1
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It's an election year, he's trying to act like an American.
Shrubbery gets no credit for allowing bin Laden to die free and of natural causes.
Snow, Frank Sinatra
Y'all are thinking rationally again. You need to approach this from the perspective of the Fox News viewer. I think Dr. Wu nailed it.
It would also be nice if states would remember that they have the power to revoke corporate charters when corporations behave in resolutely destructive ways.
[ROFLMAO]
You're a funny man, ror.
The illeteracy rate in the entire province of New Brunswick is even higher:
Yikes! That's sad.
I don't see how it helps Bush that bin Ladin died a natural death.
Moe Szyslak |
Oh crap like they kept him on the run, he had to sleep somewhere different every night. It'll be like the hounds chasing the fox til the fox crawls into a hole and croaks from exhaustion.
It Repug Bizarro World at its most effective! We (Bush) got him like promised!
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There was also a Harlem councilman on that segment as well who did an excellent job tearing Rangel a new one the size of the Grand Canyon.
Also during the segment, the interviewer tried to trap said councilman by positing some ridiculous scenario about Iran & Venezuela being allies in a war against The US and would the councilman still support Chavez then. Fortunately, the councilman didn't fall for the strawman.
Billions for bribes, not one cent for tribute.
Chavez launched an expanded heating oil distribution programme in Harlem yesterday. I'm sure R
I really find it bizarre. Rangel's printed statement was more measured, but the idea that non-Americans shouldn't be 'allowed' to criticise Bush is dumb chauvinism. It's like Americans touring Europea and getting annoyed that no-one speaks English.
Yes, Bush is head of state; but when you combine the figurehead role with strong executive powers, then you takes yer knocks.
If Khan is any example, I do not trust Pakistani justice.
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Ronnie Wise's work in the Delta is the most important thing evah.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Thanks for the link, Dr. Shouty-Crackers. That was an amazing article.
We'll probably end up seeing All the King's Men just because it will be fun to see all the familiar places where it was filmed. Mr. TJ spent a few days on Oak Street when they were filming, just watching the procedure and chatting with the security guards (off-duty NOPD). He learned some interesting stuff.
TJ | 09.23.06 - 9:45 am | #
I was excited about this movie, but have heard bad things about it. I too would probably enjoy it just for the sake of seeing familiar places...
I doubt that I would have chatted up the NOPD security, though, given that those fuckers beat the crap out of me for no reason and threw me in OPP for a night...
Oh crap like they kept him on the run, he had to sleep somewhere different every night.
So did Clinton.
Of course, the MCM has to actually report the truth, not just regurgitate the WH spittle (or whatever) they swallow so easily.
jawbone
"BREAKING: Associated Press is reporting that George Bush personally flew an explosives-packed drone (riding astride it a la Captain Kong) into Osama Bin Ladin's tent, killing the terrorist. Just before impact, Bush did a Tom Cruise-Mission-Impossible-style leap onto a second drone flying behind the first, and escaped to safety."
Oops. Was going to say 'I'm sure Rangel's a man of sufficient principle to turn it down.'
The line that politics ends at the border means you don't play party politics overseas, because you're representing the country, not the party. But American pols can be so near-sighted: embrace our freedoms, as long as you don't say bad things about us.
he's trying to act like an American.
He was trying to act like a jackass, and succeeding beyound his expectations.
Clinton chased bin Laden from two countries.
It's the most important thing ever he's fucked up--
Although it's gonna try and top that with Iran.
Nothing says "I fucked you up!" like a nuke in someone's back yard.
Good morning.
[ROFLMAO]
You're a funny man, ror.
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 9:47 am | #
I aim to please, baby.
Pakistan and the Waziris sign a non-agression pact on September 5.
Osama's probably not in Waziristan.
So did Clinton.
Snow, Frank Sinatra
Well of course that doesn't count.
Sure, Clinton chased him, but Bush chased him to his final end...as promised.
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So did Clinton.
Snow,/i>
Speaking of . . . I don't think Chris Wallace will be asking him any trick questions any time soon, eh?
What really pisses me off is having to watch Fox to see it - maybe I'll just wait 'til it's on YouTube.
pseudonymous in nc, Rangel's statement did provide some food for thought (whether one agrees with it or not) and a bit of snark.
bin Laden died of Typhoid?
And this makes Bush a hero ... how?
It's like Josh said: Nearly 7,000 Iraqis killed in sectarian violence over the last two months.
But this is really just Bush holocaust of war - Bill Clinton has very big hand in help Bush lie us into war.
Venezuelan Catholics are particularly adept at recognizing satantic influences. From the time they're knee-high to an anteater's ass, Venezuelan Catholics are taught how to differentiate between mundane evildoing and genuine demonic possession. I don't know whether or not Chavez is correct in his analysis of Chimpy, but Chavez is as good a guide as you're likely to find in this situation -- unless he happened to be a Venezuelan Catholic priest, which he's not.
Morning, Vicki!
Sure, Clinton chased him, but Bush chased him to his final end...as promised.
Yeah, but Clinton chased him out of Saudi and you know Bush would have never bombed had bin Laden stayed in Saudi.
but Bush chased him to his final end...as promised.
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Agent Orange | 09.23.06 - 9:51 am | #
Um, no. Sorry, dear.
bin Laden died of Typhoid?
Doubtful. Al Qaeda has not announced his bodily assumption or crap.
Hi Rory!
Have I told you lately that I love you?
Yeah, pie: the statement on the website was fine by me. It was the impromptu stuff that seemed as sloppy in parts as Chavez's speech.
It's an election year, he's trying to act like an American.
Just saying...
I love how the trools and the dingnutz bring one's "Americanism" into play.
What drives the idiots crazy is that us leftists and the like are equally as "American" as the dingnutz in every way.
Suck it.
Yeah, but Clinton chased him out of Saudi and you know Bush would have never bombed had bin Laden stayed in Saudi.
Snow
Saudi Arabia? UBL was in Sudan before Afghanistan, not Saudi Arabia. I don't think he's been allowed into Saudi Arabia since about 1993 or so - the Saudis even revoked his citizenship (in 1996 or so, just from memory).
Bill Clinton has very big hand in help Bush lie us into war.
That's almost like an English sentence... but not really.
Go to this site and see what I believe the GOP will use in the coming weeks to discredit Bush's critics on the war. It looks to me like an orchestrated effort, and we'll be seeing it on the teevee very soon.
http://mariestwocents.blogspot.com/
Ding dong bin laden's dead, the big old twit, the wicked twit, ding dong Osama b'laden is dead!
Or whatever.
Oops. Was going to say 'I'm sure Rangel's a man of sufficient principle to turn it down.'
It's not Rangel's decision to accept or turn down. The oil distribution program happened last winter, and will happen again, it's a direct arrangement between Citgo and local community groups.
I doubt that I would have chatted up the NOPD security, though, given that those fuckers beat the crap out of me for no reason and threw me in OPP for a night...
rorschach
Understand completely. Initially, the guy was trying to get him to move from where he was having coffee and that's how they started talking. He was approaching it like a research project. Trying to figure out where this guy was coming from. He had a lot of stories about all the crimes the Saints players get away with.
Fuck trolls, and the minions who feed them.
If I were Angelides, I would be wary of appearing with Schwarzenegger. He's likely to spin it as a sign of support.
Hi Rory!
Have I told you lately that I love you?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 9:54 am | #
Well, I haven't been around much, so I guess not...
I ♥ Vicki!
Bill Clinton has very big hand in help Bush lie us into war.
Cheryl
It must be a lot of fun for these mental midgets to type nonsensical tripe.
It was the impromptu stuff that seemed as sloppy in parts as Chavez's speech.
Never saw his speech, just heard a few of his descriptive labels.
Glad Kos didn't fall for the come-on. I really don't care what other leaders say about him. Nothing shames him anyway.
Did anyone catch Hour One of NPR news? I missed it, but did hear Juan Williams during the second hour give a rather bare bones description of what the compromise means (as part of the political week in review). Struck me as rather pathetic for a news organization with lawyers on its staff who regularly give very analyses of new laws and court cases. Hhhmmm--whassup, NPR?
Look
On Bush's "watch"...
9/11 - Clinton's fault
OBL dead (?) - Bush's credit
My point is that that's how FOX et al will sell this, if true. And if true I'll bet there'll be a real 'Bush bounce' after the media finishes massaging the story to the people.
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Saudi Arabia? UBL was in Sudan before Afghanistan, not Saudi Arabia.
Clenis chased him Saudi. He fled to Sudan. Clenis chased him from Sudan. He fled to Afghanistan. Clenis chased him around Afghanistan until Boo Boo took over the chase.
Thanks for the link, Dr. Shouty-Crackers. That was an amazing article.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Given it's on the front page of the LATimes Diane, I'm figuring that all my old buds at the LAPL are right now meeting to figure out some way to coerce him back into the game - they're very, very clever, those liberians of the LA Public Libeary.
It's not Rangel's decision to accept or turn down. The oil distribution program happened last winter, and will happen again, it's a direct arrangement between Citgo and local community groups.
Karin
yeah, and fyi, Chavez also announced on Democracy Now a program for people with cataracts and other eye problems. He said any poor Americans who need eye surgery should present themselves at the Venezuelan consulate and they will be flown to Venezuela, put up at a hotel, and have the surgery free of charge.
I have never, ever seen a Schwarzenegger movie, Snow. Well, I did see a snippet of Conan on TCM or something during worst movie week, but beyond that...
I'm a picky person, and Schwarznegger was never someone I picked to entertain me. I think he's buttfucking ugly (too muscular), and really just a phenomona that shouldn't have happened, except that we live in the States, and people idolize bullshit here.
I've become quite the curmudgeon: I really dislike most fellow Americans. They're greedy, shallow, and in it for the competition.
Guess I don't belong here any more.
phenomonon. Jeezus H. Spelling Bee.
Understand completely. Initially, the guy was trying to get him to move from where he was having coffee and that's how they started talking. He was approaching it like a research project. Trying to figure out where this guy was coming from. He had a lot of stories about all the crimes the Saints players get away with.
TJ | 09.23.06 - 9:56 am | #
Yeah, that would be interesting, but given that I wound up with a black bruise covering, quite literally, the entirety of the right side of my body, and a thoroughly fucked up face, and my glasses smashed and lost... I'd probably be too wary to pull off such a conversation. But more power to y'all!
Guess I don't belong here any more.
On the contrary, we need you more than ever.
Well, I just got back from Pakistan. Anything interesting happening?
Bill Clinton has very big hand in help Bush lie us into war.
That's almost like an English sentence... but not really.
rorschach
I recognize that pattern of speech. I'm wondering if Bush is posting comments on the internets this morning?
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Clenis chased him Saudi. He fled to Sudan. Clenis chased him from Sudan. He fled to Afghanistan. Clenis chased him around Afghanistan until Boo Boo took over the chase.
Snow
According to this, UBL was last in Saudi Arabia in 1991.
"Bin Laden's increasingly strident criticisms of the Saudi monarchy led the government to attempt to silence him. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, "with help from a dissident member of the royal family, he managed to get out of the country under the pretext of attending an Islamic gathering in Pakistan in April 1991." Hassan al-Turabi, leader of the National Islamic Front, had invited bin Laden to "transplant his whole organization to Sudan" in 1989. Bin Laden's agents had begun purchasing property in Sudan in 1990. When the Saudi government began putting pressure on him in 1991, bin Laden moved to Sudan. The Saudi government revoked his citizenship in 1994."
Given it's on the front page of the LATimes Diane, I'm figuring that all my old buds at the LAPL are right now meeting to figure out some way to coerce him back into the game - they're very, very clever, those liberians of the LA Public Libeary.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Literacy is a problem all over the country. I did some volunteer work at the Pasadena library in their program, and I could have done it full-time.
I was shocked at the number of adults who cannot read.
Guess I don't belong here any more.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 9:59 am | #
Hey, don't go sayin' things like that!
I ♥ Vicki!
I have never, ever seen a Schwarzenegger movie, Snow.
Not even Kindergarten Cop (It's not a tuma!) or that Christmas toy movie?
yeah, and fyi, Chavez also announced on Democracy Now a program for people with cataracts and other eye problems. He said any poor Americans who need eye surgery should present themselves at the Venezuelan consulate and they will be flown to Venezuela, put up at a hotel, and have the surgery free of charge.
They've been doing that eye surgery thing for people all over South America. Talk about effective public diplomacy. Think of the good will this country could generate if we did stuff like that.
Huh. I went looking for the transcript and the Chavez interview was actually from last year, but here is what he said:
"We have also started a project called “The Miracle Project,” and we put this project today to be at the disposal of the U.S. If you know someone – tomorrow when you show this broadcast this show and you have people who have eye problems and they cannot afford an eye surgery, please, go to the Venezuelan Consulate in the U.S. Go to the U.S. Embassy in Washington. Go to CITGO. We can guarantee the transportation of these people to Caracas and Havana free, totally free of charge. These people could undergo eye surgery. This year we have conducted close to 100,000 eye surgeries, cataracts. In children, when you do not operate these cataracts, they can go blind, cornea operations, estavism, myopia and many others. You wear glasses and you are writing pretty well, right? If you remove your glasses, you cannot read. It’s going to be difficult. The same thing. I am 51 years old. So I have problems with my eyes. I need glasses. There are people who cannot read because no one has told them that they should wear glasses. They don't have glasses to read – millions of human beings. So we have this plan with Fidel, and we have agreed to do this in the next 10 years, and we have already started, 2005 to 2015, we are going to operate to conduct eye surgery to a million people. 600,000 people per year. That's a miracle surgery. And that includes the U.S. people, especially the poorest of the poor. Help us to help these people who are suffering from eye diseases."
Well, I just got back from Pakistan. Anything interesting happening?
The Kenosha Kid
Are you the person who gave UBL typhoid? You were supposed to wait until after the mid-term elections.
It was Bill Clinton dammit. Get on script.
present themselves at the Venezuelan consulate and they will be flown to Venezuela, put up at a hotel, and have the surgery free of charge.
Great! Who'll come stay with Arthur?
They've been doing that eye surgery thing for people all over South America. Talk about effective public diplomacy. Think of the good will this country could generate if we did stuff like that.
Doesn't he understand that blowing shit up is much more effective diplomacy?
It was Bill Clinton dammit. Get on script.
Snow
ror, I'm so terribly sorry, the brutality of the nola cops is utterly shameful.
I wonder if the Lions know about Mr. Chavez's offer?
pie,
You're sweet. But, as you know because I've told you, my newly found cynicism is scaring me.
The only good thing I did last night was play yente for my daughter.
I found this hot tamale of a lad (he's 23, degree in Communications from MSU) for my daughter. Long, frizzy curly hair, gorgeous smile, biceps that made me ... well, I won't say , and he's articulate.
Plays guitar, keyboard, and bass, and he's looking to start a rock band here in town (he just moved here).
Boy, meet girl.
And boy, meet the new Mrs. Robinson.
(I'm so evil, except I'm not...)
Pundits are saying Chavez is crazy or akin to that for his snarky comments about the devil having been at the podium in the form of BushBoy.
Yet, Bush speak of the Axis of Evil, naming three countries (may be expanded to four after this), implying the leaders of these nations are evil incarnate, i.e., the devil.
What's the big diff?
Think of the good will this country could generate if we did stuff like that.
Heh.
Are you the person who gave UBL typhoid? You were supposed to wait until after the mid-term elections.
The opportunity presented itself, so I took a shot.. ummm, I mean, what's typhoid? I never heard of it!
Good morning, everybody -- Here in rural central Ohio it's a woesome grey outside.
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Think of the good will this country could generate if we did stuff like that.
My brother goes to South America and performs surgery on needy indiginents in the high mountains.
At least Chavez didn't imply all the people of the US are evil, as BushBoy does concerning Iran, Iraq and North Korea. If you call a nation evil, you certainly suggest all the people there are evil--not just the leaders.
(I'm so evil, except I'm not...)
You're fab.
Not even Kindergarten Cop (It's not a tuma!) or that Christmas toy movie?
Nope!
I thought Kindergarten Cop was stupid. I'm not into formulaic movies - I like the stuff at art houses.
I'm kind of a rebel, actually.
Be back, I need some major ibuprofen...
the brutality of the nola cops is utterly shameful.
A friend was caught with a joint in NOLA. He was told that if didn't get out of town then and there, he'd get put in jail right after he got checked out of Charity Hospital.
ummm, not to be a semantic prick and all, but wouldn't OBL die from Typhus?
ror, I'm so terribly sorry, the brutality of the nola cops is utterly shameful.
TJ | 09.23.06 - 10:04 am | #
Yeah, they did indeed suck, and that was just about the worst day of my life (and it happened just as my marriage was in the process of dissolving. Lagniappe!)
And boy, meet the new Mrs. Robinson.
(I'm so evil, except I'm not...)
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:05 am | #
Oh my... Yes'm.
If you call a nation evil, you certainly suggest all the people there are evil--not just the leaders.
In his statemen,,t Rangel said that a personal attack on the President was an attack on us all.
"I was shocked at the number of adults who cannot read.
Diane C. Barking-Mad "
Equally shameful are those who can but fail to use it.
I read the article on Wise earlier this morning. It got me to thinking about the folks I work with. On a funtional level, all can read unless someone is slipping by as some do. But they really do not read, it is strictly to get the job done and onwards they go. Reading for pleasure or insight is beyond most of them.
In that, I think there are two layers of illiteracy in this country.
Two different diseases DWD.
btw, juan gonzalez interviewed evo morales yesterday. it was really good.
http://www.democracynow.org/arti...6/09/22/
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JUAN GONZALEZ: I’d like to ask you, in many poor countries around the world, it is said that the most powerful official in the country is the U.S. ambassador, but in your campaign, you actually ran against, not just the other opponents, but against the role of the U.S. embassy and the U.S. ambassador in Bolivia. What is the role that the United States has played historically not only in Bolivia, but in Latin America, as far as you’re concerned?
PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] The arrogance of an ambassador or the arrogance of others, including a president, is always an error. This arrogance creates greater rebellion, greater resistance. In 2002, former U.S. ambassador to Bolivia, Manuel Rocha, said, “Don’t vote for Evo Morales.” And after that, people came out massively to vote for me. I said he was my best campaign chief. And a number of things were said about what would happen if I came to the presidency, that international cooperation would be reduced, we would no longer have access to markets, but in fact I’ve come to the presidency and we’ve seen a lot more support from other governments.
My brother goes to South America and performs surgery on needy indigents in the high mountains.
That's wonderful, Snow.
ummm, not to be a semantic prick and all, but wouldn't OBL die from Typhus?
No, typhoid is a water-borne disease. Typhus is flea-borne.
I do believe I'll go back to bed. I just can't seem to get started today. I hope WGG shows his face today...and I hope it's with good news.
Oh, and I've posted on what happens when you give the henhouse keys to the fox.
(*PDF version) for printing.
What is typhoid fever?
Typhoid fever is a potentially life-threatening illness that is caused by the bacteria Salmonella typhi (S. typhi). Persons with typhoid fever carry the bacteria in their bloodstream and intestinal tract and can spread the infection directly to other people by contaminating food or water.
Who gets typhoid fever?
Anyone can get typhoid fever if they drink water or eat food contaminated with the S. typhi bacteria. Travelers visiting developing countries are at greatest risk for getting typhoid fever. Typhoid fever is still common in the developing world, where it affects about 12.5 million persons each year. Only about 400 cases occur each year in the United States.
TJ @ 10:03--Guess our MCM didn't think this was worth telling the American people about--just a little vision saving surgery? For the poorest of the poor?
Who knew?
I hope WGG shows his face today...and I hope it's with good news.
Ditto.
If you call a nation evil, you certainly suggest all the people there are evil--not just the leaders.
Not certainly. You could simply be referring to the government of said nation.
My brother goes to South America and performs surgery on needy indigents in the high mountains.
Needy indigents are annoying. I prefer helping the un-needy indigents.
"No, typhoid is a water-borne disease. Typhus is flea-borne."
So Mccain and Lieberman will end up dying from Typhus?
Why is it that we can catch terrorist leaders in Iraq but not insurgent leaders?
Typhus
Definition
Several different illnesses called "typhus" exist, all of them caused by one of the bacteria in the family Rickettsiae. Each illness occurs when the bacteria is passed to a human through contact with an infected insect.
Description
The four main types of typhus are:
* epidemic typhus
* Brill-Zinsser disease
* endemic or murine typhus
* scrub typhus
These diseases are all somewhat similar, although they vary in terms of severity. The specific type of Rickettsia that causes the disease also varies, as does the specific insect that can pass the bacteria along.
Epidemic typhus is caused by Rickettsia prowazekii, which is carried by body lice. When the lice feed on a human, they may simultaneously defecate. When the person scratches the bite, the feces (which carrys the bacteria) are scratched into the wound. Body lice are common in areas in which people live in overcrowded, dirty conditions, with few opportunities to wash themselves or their clothing. Because of this fact, this form of typhus occurs simultaneously in large numbers of individuals living within the same community; that is, in epidemics. This type of typhus occurs when cold weather, poverty, war, and other disasters result in close living conditions that encourage the maintenance of a population of lice living among humans. Epidemic typhus is now found in the mountainous regions of Africa, South America, and Asia.
Brill-Zinsser disease is a reactivation of an earlier infection with epidemic typhus. It affects people years after they have completely recovered from epidemic typhus. When something causes a weakening of their immune system (like aging, surgery, illness), the bacteria can gain hold again, causing illness. This illness tends to be extremely mild.
Endemic typhus is carried by fleas. When a flea lands on a human, it may defecate as it feeds. When the person scratches the itchy spot where the flea was feeding, the bacteria-laden feces are scratched into the skin, thus causing infection. The causative bacteria is called Rickettsia typhi. Endemic typhus occurs most commonly in warm, coastal regions. In the United States, southern Texas and southern California have the largest number of cases.
Scrub typhus is caused by Rickettsia tsutsugamushi. This bacteria is carried by mites or chiggers. As the mites feed on humans, they deposit the bacteria. Scrub typhus occurs commonly in the southwest Pacific, southeast Asia, and Japan. It is a very common cause of illness in people living in or visiting these areas. It occurs more commonly during the wet season.
Don't U.S. officials in Venezuela (& other places), openly talk down the leaders and the government there? Maybe Chavez figured turnabout was fair play.
Why is it that we can catch terrorist leaders in Iraq but not insurgent leaders?
Good question. Perhaps because they have close, personal family ties to the Prescott Bush Family?
Why is it that we can catch terrorist leaders in Iraq but not insurgent leaders?
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:11 am | #
We've caught al-Qaeda's #3 man so many times I'm convinced that they all must be wearing red Star Trek shirts.
So Mccain and Lieberman will end up dying from Typhus?
EkCenTriK
No.
Duck pit, after the revolution. On pay-per-view.
BTW, hi Vicki!
And, btw,
H*A*P*P*Y* N*E*W* Y*E*A*R!
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Rangel also said that no one "outside the family" is allowed to criticise Bush while in The US(see my earlier pint about The UN, same lie). It's nice to know that he thinks The US should be run like the Corleone family.
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Bush supported the coup against Chavez, and he's not supposed to critize him?
We have an extradition treaty with Venezuela but we refuse to extradite Luis Posada Carriles, the man wanted for blowing up a Cuban airliner and killing 73 people, including the entire Cuban teenage Olympic fencing team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Lui...Posada_Carriles
I would say Chavez has standing to criticize Bush, Mr. Rangel.
It would not have been hard for the Dems to say this:
"I condemn Chavez' personal attacks on President Bush. Of greater concern is the fact that they were applauded by the UN delegates. The best response to that applause is for the US to reaffirm its adherence to the Geneva convention and to reject the President's attempts to make torture in any form acceptable."
We've caught al-Qaeda's #3 man so many times I'm convinced that they all must be wearing red Star Trek shirts.
rorschach
"Ensign - search over there behind that rock."
My first thought when I heard about the OBL demise leak was "sounds like the French are stepping on the toes of Bush's October surprise." And then I thought "good".
There's real warfare going on and all this crew thinks of is theatrics. I want some truth.
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hi Blak! How are you, sir? And how's the ever-feline Dudley?
And Happy Jewish New Year to you, too, Dr. Barmpot SC!
I wonder what my SR VP boss will atone for on the 2nd?
Oh, that was mean. Sorry. I have a bit of a snark thingy going on today. Must shift attitude!
My brother goes to South America and performs surgery on needy indigents in the high mountains.
Um. So, your brother's a doctor and stuff?
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For Agent Orange, if he's still around.
My apologies for the rough edges; I gotta motor downtown.
Harry bin Laden.
I like Charlie Rangel, but fuck him. He's wrong.
Thank God Chavez has nads.
And how's the ever-feline Dudley?
Sleeping, of course.
I would say Chavez has standing to criticize Bush, Mr. Rangel.
Indeed.
And Chavez brought up the Cuban airline incident in his speech:
PRESIDENT HUGO CHAVEZ: President Michelle Bachelet reminded us just a moment ago, the horrendous assassination of the former foreign minister, Orlando Letelier. And I would just add one thing: those who perpetrated this crime are free. And that other event, where an American citizen also died, were Americans themselves. They were CIA killers, terrorists. And we must recall in this room that in just a few days, there will be another anniversary. 30 years will have passed from this other horrendous terrorist attack on the Cuban plane, where 73 innocents died, a Cubana Aviacion airliner.
And where is the biggest terrorist of this continent who took the responsibility for blowing up the plane? He spent a few years in jail in Venezuela. Thanks to CIA and then-government officials, he was allowed to escape, and he lives here in this country protected by the government. And he was convicted. He has confessed to his crime. But the U.S. government has double standards. It protects terrorism when it wants to. And this is to say that Venezuela is fully committed to combating terrorism and violence, and we are one of the peoples who are fighting for peace. Luis Posada Carriles is the name of that terrorist who is protected here.
Harry bin Laden.
Does not compute, oh you who does not have a Demi Moore voice!
Will CNN spend this much time on bin Laden when he appears on tape holding today's paper?
Um. So, your brother's a doctor and stuff?
I'm a doctor!
ah, crap.
Let me try that again.
For Agent Orange.
This was my favorite line from his speech, btw:
But the U.S. government has double standards. It protects terrorism when it wants to.
But the MSM focused on the devil stuff so they didn't have to address the substance of his remarks.
I like Charlie Rangel, but fuck him. He's wrong.
I don't enjoy criticising him at all. He was one of my favorite dems until I witnessed that shameful display. At least it wasn't Conyers or Kucinich, that would've been heartbreaking.
Um. So, your brother's a doctor and stuff?
Sorry. Yes, my bro be a surgeon. And hates it. Going for MHA.
NPR's Hour One, about 10:08, has indepth discussion of the torture compromise. Not clear what the wording of the proposed legislation means--seems to have definition upon definition upon definition upon definition....
Read a post somewhere last night about lies upon lies upon lies upon lies...all the way down to the bottom. The Bush Maladministration.
The Torture Compromise sounds sort of like that and not a good thing.
Sorry. Yes, my bro be a surgeon. And hates it. Going for MHA.
Snow, Frank Sinatra |
Well, see, that's good, if he's using knives and things on people's eyes. Just checking - see my brother's a doctor, but not so much with knives.
Snow,
Nice post at your blog about Glenn Beck. I've been listening to his nonsense (that guy is nuts, btw), and I swear he's trying to establish a cult. He's so...Mormon...in the worst way.
And yes, if that comment offends anyone, I'm glad.
But the MSM focused on the devil stuff so they didn't have to address the substance of his remarks.
TJ | 09.23.06 - 10:17 am | #
Damn right. Bloody cowards in the press.
It's high time that someone pointed out that the only difference between "war" and "terrorism" in Iraq is that the former is backed up with loads of cash. Morally, they are the same.
Compromising on torture, egad. What the fuck!!!
If the latest OBL obituary proves true, expect the Unitard™ to officially announce it by scheduling a press conference on a hospital roof heliport, where he will arrive in Chopper One-- dressed in surgical scrubs, a stethoscope dangling from his neck and that mirror-thing strapped to his forehead.
And a banner reading "Another Mission Accomplished!"
And yes, if that comment offends anyone, I'm glad.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:20 am | #
I'm profoundly offended. Not sure I can get over this, Vicki.
I keep trying to put words to what's behind the visceral contempt I have for George W. Bush. I've never had that reaction to a president before, democrat or republican. I think he's a horribly incompetent president, and that's part of it, but theres also a particular brand of arrogance that suggests that it doesn't matter what he fucks up, because being the president is his birthright, because of his family and social class. It's just a gut feeling that comes from watching both what he says and how he says it; his facial expressions and body language. Nothing new, but I felt like injecting it into this comment thread anyway.
I just cleaned out my pockets from last night, and some guy stuffed his address and phone number on a Keno paper in my pocket!
Frankly, I'm shocked!
I'm not looking for a buddy in a bar, you know?
Sorry, Bob, but you won't be hearing from me. I was nice to him, but that's that.
I hate bars, btw.
Beck is Mormon?
Morning, Vicki; glad to see you around this place.
expect the Unitard™ to officially announce it by scheduling a press conference on a hospital roof heliport, where he will arrive in Chopper One-- dressed in surgical scrubs, a stethoscope dangling from his neck and that mirror-thing strapped to his forehead.
And a banner reading "Another Mission Accomplished!"
Oh my God! I thought the same thing, only you funny!
I don't have any problem with Chavez criticizing Bush. I just wish he hadn't given the right-wing press its little sound bite with all that "devil" crap.
I hate bars, btw.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
That's even more offensive than your anti-Mormon comment!
I hate bars, btw.
I don't drink alcohol or coffee and I don't smoke tobacco. Those few lifestyle choices decimate my casual social options. This has only occured to me recently.
Ronnie Wise's work in the Delta is the most important thing evah.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Thanks for that, Doc.
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Snow, Beck is a Mormon. He converted for Tonya, his current wife. He's such a dick. He's always talking about his religion and the fact that he's a recovering alcoholic, and for as petty as he is, I often wonder why he thinks he can claim the stage on global issues.
I hate Sean Hannity, but Glenn Beck is a pretentious prick.
I hate bars, btw.
As a Whiskeypalian, I am offended by this.
Bush is no Satan, he's too stupid for the anti-Christ. One of the lesser fallen angels, perhaps Thammuz or Belial.
Chavez could have said diabolico and maybe gotten away with it.
G'morning, plantsman!
ror,
Sorry to have offended you. Of all people.
I just wish he hadn't given the right-wing press its little sound bite with all that "devil" crap.
They would've just found something else to give him shit for.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore -- I lost a bet with my teenage daughters once and they got to drag me to a Schwarzenegger movie. I fell asleep within minutes. The noise and effects were such an assault on my senses I just shut down, I guess.
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He converted for Tonya, his current wife.
He's married? He's been married previously? He's not breeding, please?
Seriously, I did not think you could become Mormon.
If the prognosticators are correct, we're in for a week of proper Indian Summer weather. I'll gladly take it!
I don't drink alcohol or coffee and I don't smoke tobacco. Those few lifestyle choices decimate my casual social options. This has only occured to me recently.
There are a lot of groups you can join, or volunteer activities you can participate in, depending on what your interests are. You can meet a lot of cool people that way.
He's always talking about his religion and the fact that he's a recovering alcoholic, and for as petty as he is, I often wonder why he thinks he can claim the stage on global issues.
Ok, it's wrong, I'm not supposed to take another's inventory, but
"Step 7. Humbly asked God to remove our shortcomings"
Now, all we're supposed to do is "ask", but Glenn B kinda makes me wonder if he's done his Seventh Step yet.
BlakNo1,
I never go to bars. Well, almost never. I went out with a friend of mine last night to mix it up and to get away from the Italian restaurant I frequent. More like the Italian guy who owns the Italian restaurant, but I digress.
ror,
Sorry to have offended you. Of all people.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:26 am | #
Just kidding with you, Vicki!
Bush is no Satan, he's too stupid for the anti-Christ. One of the lesser fallen angels, perhaps Thammuz or Belial.
Old Ironsides | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:26 am | #
At best, Bush is among the Manes.
Snow,
He's breeding and breeding and breeding.
You can convert to Mormonism; that's why the young fellers go door to door in their randy youth: to witness to potential followers.
Bush is no Satan, he's too stupid for the anti-Christ. One of the lesser fallen angels, perhaps Thammuz or Belial.
Old Ironsides
I dunno. If I was one to believe in the AntiChrist, Junior'd sure be it. And like I said before, if he's a Fallen Angel, he sure musta landed on his haid...
Just kidding with you, Vicki!
I know, sweetie. If I'm ever insecure about something I've said or you've said, I'll either ask you directly, or write you.
You can meet a lot of cool people that way.
I'd prefer that hash bars were legalized, actually.
It doesn't really bother me that much. I've spent most of my life being a social butterfly with more friends than I knew what to do with.
To me, Bush will always be Awol.
Beck became a self-admitted alcoholic and drug addict. By age 30 his addictions had consumed him, causing him to become in his own words "a despicable human being." The addictions culminated in a period of intense unhappiness and the disintegration of his first marriage, which had produced two children.
Oh. A hypocrite.
Seriously, I did not think you could become Mormon.
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:27 am | #
Oh, you most certainly can.
And what's more, the Mormons, with their extraordinary genealogical expertise, make it their practice to "convert" people's ancestors long after they are dead, with or without the consent of the living family members.
Freakish.
Seriously, I did not think you could become Mormon.
Snow
Are you kidding? That's why everyone has to do two years as a missionary.
BlakNo1 -- I wonder if contra dancing is still going strong. We did that when young and met a wonderful, intelligent, curious, drug/smoke/alcohol-free crowd. Great musicianship to work a sweat up to, too.
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that's why the young fellers go door to door in their randy youth: to witness to potential followers.
Those are Mormons?
Isn't the Anti-Christ supposed to be charismatic? I don't think Georgie even comes close.
I guess that leaves Shotgun out, too.
Naw, these guys are just snake-oil salesmen of the first water, harnessing the energy of the hateful and the scared, folks that really don't like that America is a free country.
I know, sweetie. If I'm ever insecure about something I've said or you've said, I'll either ask you directly, or write you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:31 am | #
You are such a sweetheart. I've missed you these many days when I've been too busy to hang out here.
I don't have any problem with Chavez criticizing Bush. I just wish he hadn't given the right-wing press its little sound bite with all that "devil" crap.
cs, art is bread
That was my thought too. Chavez and Bush both love to have perfect enemies to play off of. They would be lost without one another, or some approximation thereof.
I hate Sean Hannity, but Glenn Beck is a pretentious prick.
Oh thank god, I jump into the thread late and for a surreal and not properly caffeinated minute I thought you were talking about Beck (Hansen).
Those are Mormons?
Snow, Frank Sinatra
Could be Mormons, could be Jehovah's witnesses, could be other fundies.
I must say, the Mormons actually got me to read the Book or Mormon. Of course I did it so I could destroy the little self-righteous goobers with their own words....
I haven't see any of them in a long time. I may be on a list in Provo.
I always thought Rangel was OK, but not as intellectual as Conyers or Kucinich.
Either he's cynically playing to his jingo meatball constituents, or he got in touch with his own Inner Jingo Meatball.
It's a stretch, but for some reason this reminds me of Hunter Thompson's observation in "Hell's Angels", when he laments that Angels leader Sonny Barger and his crew spent a lot of time turning on, tuning in, and dropping out with Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters, and seemed to benefit from this mind-expanding association. But when push came to shove during the anti-war activism period (how quaint!), Barger reverted to his "con-boss instincts" and joined the ranks of the jingo reactionary hardhats instead of joining the revolution.
It'd be a shame if Rangel reverts to this troglodytic mafioso "us voises dem" mentality. I don't think the Rupperts of the world live in his district.
Those are Mormons?
Snow
Bicycles, white shirts, tie? Yep.
A friend of mine actually did his two years in Poland.
Those are Mormons?
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:33 am | #
Most of 'em. There are also Jehovah's Witnesses.
And what's more, the Mormons, with their extraordinary genealogical expertise, make it their practice to "convert" people's ancestors long after they are dead, with or without the consent of the living family members.
Freakish.
rorschach
In the extreme. On the other hand, it means they have a fantastic genealogical database for anyone wanting to research family history.
At best, Bush is among the Manes.
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:29 am | #
You apologize to Natalie!
(or does she spell it differently?)
Most of 'em. There are also Jehovah's Witnesses.
rorschach
Around here, Mormons show in in pairs, are always male, and about 20 or so.
Jehovah's Witnesses show in large groups, and are of all ages.
It'd be a shame if Rangel reverts to this troglodytic mafioso "us voises dem" mentality. I don't think the Rupperts of the world live in his district.
Certainly not!
On the other hand, it means they have a fantastic genealogical database for anyone wanting to research family history.
sdf (Stu) | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:36 am | #
That is true, but it is odd that this culture has such a strong obsession with the dead and gone...
And that's not even to start going into their beliefs about race!
Either he's cynically playing to his jingo meatball constituents, or he got in touch with his own Inner Jingo Meatball.
Must be the latter, because a jingo meatball wouldn't last a day on the streets of Harlem.
It seems to me that in addition to being posted on my front fencepost, there's another one just to one side that says BIG DOG WHO LOATHES PEOPLE SELLING GOD DOOR TO DOOR. It all balances out.
Off to have the convertible emissions tested. Have fun.
Rangel is really pissing me off. I don't give a goddamn if the UN is in his district, it's an international site. If he wants them to move it out of his district, he should say so. WTF is up with this guy?
The Jehovah's Witnesses leave The Watchtower in our laundry facility every week, the Mormons don't come around.
Bicycles, white shirts, tie? Yep.
Is it wrong that I want to run those doods over?
Has anybody seen the Black Dahlia? I kinda want to see it, but the reviews have not been great. The book was terrific, and I don't want to ruin that with a badly done film.
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I saw it last night. I read the book a few years back, and did not recognize it from the film. Brian DePalma's typical self indulgent mess.
It looked good, though, and Scarlett Johanson makes it worth renting in 3 months.
good morning fellow Atriots. I'm a bit late to the threads as I have been working this week. Just a question...
what happened to Waffles? I looked at The Poorman but couldn't access the archives.
JW's in this area always come in male/female pairs. Never seen any Mormons going door to door, I doubt if we have many in NJ.
Res Ipsa Loquitur!
Rangel's a cantankerous old coot. I find what he said absurd, but he's not my Rep.
Is anyone else feeling like a Good German these days?
And while I used to think such comparisons were over the top, lately I'm not so sure.
Just a question...
what happened to Waffles?
Attacked by a chow chow.
Is it wrong that I want to run those doods over?
No.
They're intrusive. I have enough assholes invading my life - who needs to be bugged by the uninvited?
I've had my door knocked on countless times this year. It drives me fuckign nutz.
That is true, but it is odd that this culture has such a strong obsession with the dead and gone...
rorschach
Here in the South that obsession is not unusual in the least, so I can't fault them on that (barring the post-mortal-coil conversion part, which is really, really tacky).
It's not Rangel's decision to accept or turn down.
Oh, I know, but is anyone going to ask him whether his constituents should accept it?
And what's more, the Mormons, with their extraordinary genealogical expertise, make it their practice to "convert" people's ancestors long after they are dead, with or without the consent of the living family members.
Freakish.
Yes, that is. Clinton talked about ideology last night on Olbermann saying that ideologists have all the answers and don't need to know anything else. That was a nice description of fundies and wingnutz, I think.
Jim McMahon, the non-Mormon QB that played for BYU was asked what was his best memeory of the university.
"Leaving."
I think Waffles is in a coma? Last I heard.
And that's not even to start going into their beliefs about race!
rorschach
Hey, they've allowed blacks priests for almost thirty years now! (Ever since the recognition that they were missing a tremendous potential "growth" sector for their missionaries ...)
Scarlett Johanson
Excuse me while I vomit. So sick of hearing about that tart. And she ain't even cute.
Folks, this is Rangel's district.
Manhattan (UWS, Harlem, MSide Heights, Indwood, WashHeights) and Queens (Astoria, parts of LIC)etc.
So if Musharref sends a little DNA to the US as proof of bin Laden's demise, could that be the little thing he and Bush have planned?
Surprise!
I don't see how it helps Bush that bin Ladin died a natural death.
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They will say he was forced to live in remote caves by our diligent pursuit. That's why he got sick and could not get medical help. And the wingnuts will buy it.
Around here, Mormons show in in pairs, are always male, and about 20 or so.
Jehovah's Witnesses show in large groups, and are of all ages.
jac | 09.23.06 - 10:37 am | #
I always had two solutions to visits from such people, and would implement one or the other depending on my mood.
1) See them coming down the street, play death metal or punk as loud as can be, and apply powdered sugar to my upper lip. Open the door in an obviously jittery manner. They leave quick.
2) Have a stack of Nietzsche's The Antichrist by the door and simply tell them: "Yes, I have read your book, and I will talk with you after you have read mine."
I just cleaned out my pockets from last night, and some guy stuffed his address and phone number on a Keno paper in my pocket!
Frankly, I'm shocked! [...] | Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore - 10:22 am
It's perfectly natural to feel shocked, violated, and revulsed when you've been victimized by a putpocket.
I'm pleased someone called keith "the most compelling newsperson of his generation." Scarbro and Tucker surely won't let Keith forget it was The Hollywood Reporter.
So sick of hearing about that tart. And she ain't even cute.
She has the sort of attributes prized by the shallow man.
/Seinfeld
Don't U.S. officials in Venezuela (& other places), openly talk down the leaders and the government there? Maybe Chavez figured turnabout was fair play.
Karin | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:12 am | #
Yes, I heard Rice call Chavez a Jackel months ago. Long before this incident..... egad does anyone else here smell sulfer?
Kenosha!
I like how Kos handled Chavez Qs yesterday.
BIG DOG WHO LOATHES PEOPLE SELLING GOD DOOR TO DOOR.
That's awesome. Aunty Dr. Barmpot rulz.
Last JW who knocked on my door was this gorgeous woman in her late 20s, dressed very nicely, with her little girl - about 6, dressed in Easter attire.
Very beautiful people.
My brother married one, and he and his wife have four children who go with her when she knocks on doors.
just passing by, but turned on the t.v. to check the weather, hit the wrong channel and Across America is worse than you can imagine. Send $1,000 to show your belief, God's gonna double your wisdom in the next six months, 'I see a businessman just making the step, I see one of those everyone buy something webbs' yeh, he sees web alright.
this is disgusting, 'god is a businessman, remember, I must be about my father's business' etc. Ackkkk.
My recollection--haven't read Hell's Angels in a couple decades--is that HST thought mixing Hell's Angels and acid was the stupidest, most dangerous thing anyone ever did. And bikers in general are an extremely Conservative bunch.
I think Waffles is in a coma? Last I heard.
Karin
That's my understanding. Apparently there was a lot of blood loss and maybe some intra-cranial bleeding.
I hope he's ok. I'm trying to think good thoughts and put my faith in the remarkable toughness of cats.
Vicki, babe; being horny and having standards is SUCH a problem!
She has the sort of attributes prized by the shallow man.
I've seen her without attributes and then with huge attributes. She may have had some work done in that regard.
Attacked by a chow chow.
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:41 am | #
Oh poor baby. I hope he's going to be ok. I lost my favorite cat about this time last year...don't know if she was catnapped or killed by the two stray dogs that were in the area about then.
1) See them coming down the street, play death metal or punk as loud as can be, and apply powdered sugar to my upper lip. Open the door in an obviously jittery manner. They leave quick.
Heh, very good. I'll definitely have to give that one a try some time.
Here in the South that obsession is not unusual in the least, so I can't fault them on that (barring the post-mortal-coil conversion part, which is really, really tacky).
LittlePig | 09.23.06 - 10:41 am | #
I'm Southern born and bred, and I fault them on that. They do it without any style or tact. They've even done it to victims of the Holocaust. Fuckers.
Is anyone else feeling like a Good German these days?
Whenever I feel like a good German, I just go make love with my wife!
Don't U.S. officials in Venezuela (& other places), openly talk down the leaders and the government there?
The US tried to overthrow him via an unsuccessful coup. I would say that's bad manners at the very least.
I dunno, GWPDA, the district where I teach READING (literacy) is as poor as the Delta. I have been doing this for twenty some years.
Yes, librarians can help: but teachers who understand and can bring their understanding to the classroom . . . .
I wonder if contra dancing is still going strong.
Most metro areas have some contra dancing. When I was in Atlanta I used to play music at the dances there. There are some here in Philly but a smaller scene. Portland, OR as I understand has a young thriving contra dance thing going on.
But...but..we're turning the corner.
The insurgency is in its last throes.
The preznit sez so.
/wingnut
Vicki, babe; being horny and having standards is SUCH a problem!
The Italian man is such a good friend of mine: I'm really struggling with that one.
Perfect for me in every way, except one. I should have seen this coming - he's been miserable for years and I've listened - I should have known better.
It's hard when you've been friends for many years and you fall in love, you know? I knew that was coming - I could feel it, but I played my cards close to my chest, because I also knew that it was not in my best interest.
It's perfectly natural to feel shocked, violated, and revulsed when you've been victimized by a putpocket.
Little Brøther
Say, are there any putpockets that specialize in, say, medium sized unmarked bills? My pocket's a bit empty right about now...
Whenever I feel like a good German, I just go make love with my wife!
Gehen Sie! Schnell! Schnell!
Supposedly there was a leak in French intelligence that reports that Bin Laden is dead of typhoid.
My, my. That is one very well-timed leak, coming the day after Clinton was reported as challenging Bush on Bin Laden.
mixing Hell's Angels and acid was the stupidest, most dangerous thing anyone ever did.
Indeed. Bikers and repubs should not take Dr Hoffman's Headache Remedy. It is not for them.
The US tried to overthrow him via an unsuccessful coup. I would say that's bad manners at the very least.
BlakNo1
No other nation in the world is permitted to have a government of which Murka doesn't approve.
How arrogant is that?
It's perfectly natural to feel shocked, violated, and revulsed when you've been victimized by a putpocket.
Well, wtf am I gonna do with some middle aged Tigers' fan? Call him? Frankly, nice guy, but not very bright and not my type. He likes country music, for starters. Hates Bush, though, but he couldn't articulate why.
I always had two solutions to visits from such people, and would implement one or the other depending on my mood.
1) See them coming down the street, play death metal or punk as loud as can be, and apply powdered sugar to my upper lip. Open the door in an obviously jittery manner. They leave quick.
2) Have a stack of Nietzsche's The Antichrist by the door and simply tell them: "Yes, I have read your book, and I will talk with you after you have read mine."
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:43 am
My parents were friends with a biblical scholar from one of our local unis. Her solution was to ask them if they could read the Bible in the native languages. "No? Well, I can. When you can, come back and we'll talk." For some reason they never came back.
Is anyone else feeling like a Good German these days?
Nein.
That is one very well-timed leak
Are you saying Bush weaponized typhoid?
My, my. That is one very well-timed leak, coming the day after Clinton was reported as challenging Bush on Bin Laden.
If bin Laden is dead, it has nothing to do with Bush. Just remindin' you.
Male mormons remind me of Agent Smith from The Matrix.
1) See them coming down the street, play death metal or punk as loud as can be, and apply powdered sugar to my upper lip. Open the door in an obviously jittery manner. They leave quick.
I've answered the door with nothing on but a pair of PE shorts with a beer in my hand. That seems to do the trick.
2) Have a stack of Nietzsche's The Antichrist by the door and simply tell them: "Yes, I have read your book, and I will talk with you after you have read mine."
rorschach |
Good one. I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
Whenever I feel like a good German, I just go make love with my wife!
Gehen Sie! Schnell! Schnell!
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:49 am | #
Jawohl! Kommst du mit?
Is it wrong that I want to run those doods over?
Snow
Yes - but that doesn't mean you shouldn't 
I always had two solutions to visits from such people, and would implement one or the other depending on my mood.
1) See them coming down the street, play death metal or punk as loud as can be, and apply powdered sugar to my upper lip. Open the door in an obviously jittery manner. They leave quick.
2) Have a stack of Nietzsche's The Antichrist by the door and simply tell them: "Yes, I have read your book, and I will talk with you after you have read mine."
rorschach
It's been a while since we've seen Mormons. The Witnesses usually come through on a Saturday morning, often catch us working in the front yard, and are unfailingly polite. I see no reason to be nasty - just say thanks, and decline to enter into a conversation.
WaPo article on the what's in the Torture Compromise (and keep calling it that, because that's what it is):
Many human rights groups and legal experts who parsed the bill yesterday said the White House had achieved most of its objectives in negotiations with dissident GOP senators, including John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and John W. Warner (Va.).
They said the bill's provisions would violate detainees' legitimate rights, conflict with Supreme Court decisions, and come back to haunt Washington when Americans in foreign custody are subjected to the same harsh interrogations and military trials.
"It replaces the old broken" military trial system ruled illegal by the Supreme Court with "a new broken commission system," said Marine Corps Col. Dwight Sullivan, the chief defense counsel for the Defense Department's Office of Military Commissions. He said "it methodically strips rights" guaranteed by laws and treaties and appears to be unconstitutional.
SNIP
The bill is complex partly because negotiations were rushed, following a timetable set by President Bush. The White House wants Congress to pass the legislation before adjourning at the end of next week, expecting Democrats to withhold challenges to its most controversial provisions in the pre-election period for fear of being portrayed as soft on terrorism.
But the language is also opaque because its chief objective -- the legitimization of irregular interrogations by the CIA -- is a topic shrouded in official secrecy.
"As you know, specific techniques are classified," White House national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley said Thursday evening when he was asked which interrogation techniques the law sanctions. "This whole effort is to get a legal framework supported by the Congress" without letting terrorists know exactly what they will confront after capture, Hadley said. But he added that the draft language meets the CIA's needs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...2200507_pf.html
Thanks a lot, Rebel Rethug Trio--NOT. You all folded like a beach chair.
I got into a bit of row with the lower el people the other day. They wanted my endorsement of their pet reading project. I refused. (Every damned year they send me children reading from 2 to 3 years below level. If they COULD do their damned jobs, my life would be easier.)
Their pet program is something promoted by the Harper Collins people called Reading First. (this does not apply to the upper elementary teachers . . . yet. But one of the rules of the program is that teachers have to remove any book the children might read that is not published by Harper from the classroom. Think about that.)
Hates Bush, though, but he couldn't articulate why.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Well, one hardly knows where to begin with Monkey Boy.
Jawohl! Kommst du mit?
Ja. Danke.
If bin Laden is dead, it has nothing to do with Bush. Just remindin' you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Won't matter to the average potatohead...
Fat, arrogant and corrupt down to our 9-11 crooked American toes.
DWD--this is astounding. Is it legal?
It's just a gut feeling that comes from watching both what he says and how he says it; his facial expressions and body language.
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Same as it ever was...
http://wesclark.com/rrr/
dubya_pu...bya_punches.jpg
I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
billy b - air mcnair
Friend of mine tells them she is a Wiccan.
She is.
They skeedaddle like they've seen a ghost.
I see you're talking about Waffles. I really wish we had an update, but I'm glad someone brought this up because I came in to say something that would otherwise have been an out-of-the-blue OT remark....
I just went and checked the Poorman's site to see if there were any updates, and the last comment posted was some guy lecturing on how everyone needs to keep their cats indoors all the time. It pissed me off for 2 reasons, the first of which is that the Poorman doesn't need to be hearing from anyone who might even just be misconstrued as pointing fingers at this time. The second reason is that although I know it is a fact that "indoor cats" typically live longer lives, they do so at the price of a tradeoff that is made on their behalf by their owners (or "staff" which is probably more correct). I'm not slamming anyone for making that choice, and a lot of folks live in cities where if you're going to have a cat by necessity it will be an indoor cat. But it is a fact that cats love exploring their world...regardless of it being a "dangerous place". I've never been willing to take that from any of mine, and since I've never lived in an area where it was necessary, I haven't had to. Being outdoors allows cats to revert fully to their wild natures. I love watching mine from inside when they don't know I'm watching. And I have lost a couple of cats to cars over the years, but I've also had indoor-outdoor cats that lived to 18, 14, and 8 before dying of natural causes. I just expect them to be little adults and pay attention when they're out there, which for some of them may have been asking too much. But I think even the ones that got hit by cars had richer more catlike lives before they died.
All of this just to say that I thought the comment at the Poorman was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Well, wtf am I gonna do with some middle aged Tigers' fan? Call him? Frankly, nice guy, but not very bright and not my type. He likes country music, for starters. Hates Bush, though, but he couldn't articulate why.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 10:50 am | #
Meh. Why even waste a thought on him?
Good one. I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
billy b - air mcnair | 09.23.06 - 10:51 am | #
Perhaps you stunned them into satori! Well done.
Same as it ever was...
Once an asshole, always an asshole!
What is wrong with clipping fingernails in public?
Good one. I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
billy b - air mcnair | 09.23.06 - 10:51 am | #
I have done the same thing and the reaction is just as you have said. Its almost as if they cannot comprehend challenging a non-monotheistic worldview. They don't have the capacity to even argue it.
Are you saying Bush weaponized typhoid?
Snow
Clenis. Stick to the script.
jawbone, apparently this is a government funded/Harper Collins program. So, I guess it is.
Not only that but they provide teachers with a script that they must follow - and they have people wandering around making sure they do.
I want nothing to do with it.
What is wrong with clipping fingernails in public?
It is considered grooming.
It does not offend me, but it does bother the Elizabeth Post types.
Weird. I keep getting this "duplicate post" message when I try to comment, but the comment itself doesn't appear on the thread. Never had that happen before.
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Good one. I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
When someone tells me they are a Buddhist I view them as sort of a blank slate, not because there is nothing there, but because I don't think I have any stereotypes in my head about Buddhists or Buddhism.
Clenis. Stick to the script.
Oops. You're right. That was what he was hinting at with Chris Wallace. The Clenis finally took down bin Laden with the weaponized typhoid.
When fundies hand me reading material I accept it and then when it touches my hand I convulse and scream, "Aiiieeee!!! IT BURNS! IT BURNS!" throwing their tracts and pamphlets to the ground.
OK, not really, but I always want to do that.
Vicki, after my last relationship, it took a long time to heal, and as I told you, I had decided I might never be physical with anyone again. By happenstance, I was wrong. You already have a friendship of sorts, I think you may be wise enough
to build parameters to work within, not including codependency. Good luck, m'dear!
Excuse me while I vomit. So sick of hearing about that tart. And she ain't even cute.
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She may singlehandedly bring curves back into fashion. And that's a good thing.
I would love to be able to let Dudley outside. I could easily while away hours watching him do his thing. Unfortunately, this is a very high traffic area, as well as being full of people that I don't really trust not to be mean to my cat.
Bamboo shoots under the finger nails, torture, or merely recycling?
I view them as sort of a blank slate
I see fire. I am so going to hell.
They skeedaddle like they've seen a ghost.
Terry C, Unabashed Bush Hater
That was the look.
Seriously, I did not think you could become Mormon.
Snow, Frank Sinatra
Bay Buchanan did. Converted.
She married a Mormon and her fine Catholic family disowned her for it. Had three (?) sons but they divorced.
She stayed Mormon.
billy b - air mcnair 7 Hellkitty -- I use the Buddhism line, too. It's friendly and it gets them to leave right away.
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Weird. I keep getting this "duplicate post" message when I try to comment, but the comment itself doesn't appear on the thread. Never had that happen before.
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cs
Yeah, sorry about that. We'll be done in a moment.
As you were.
Perhaps you stunned them into satori! Well done.
heh. That's funny, rorsch.
While driving cross-country a few years ago, I caught a snippet from a rightwing rant fest, where a guy was railing about "these Buddhist extremists..." Unfortuntately that was the only part I could hear, but it got me wondering: what is a "Buddhist extremist"? Is that someone who does nothing, nothing at all?
...egad does anyone else here smell sulfer?
pigboy | 09.23.06 - 10:44 am
Well, now that you mention it, sometimes when there's a strong southerly wind--and Chimpy is in DC--well, maybe, there is a sulpherous edge to the air here in NJ....
Is it wrong that I want to run those doods over?
Snow
Yes - but that doesn't mean you shouldn't
And haven't we learned from our Jeezer friends that you can do all the wrong you want, as long as you tell God about it, 'cause then he'll say it's OK? And if it's good enough for them, it's....nah, fuckit...
Rangel also said that no one "outside the family" is allowed to criticise Bush while in The US(see my earlier pint about The UN, same lie). It's nice to know that he thinks The US should be run like the Corleone family.
BlakNo1
I don't want to be in any "Family" with a BUSH in it.
OK, about the doods on the bikes with ties, I always thought they were coming to drink my beer. No wonder they always looked funny when I said no.
Frankly, nice guy, but not very bright and not my type. He likes country music, for starters. Hates Bush, though, but he couldn't articulate why.
Well, if he's not your type, it's no use, but I wouldn't nix someone off for liking country music, and the Bush-hating shows good instincts.
But one of the rules of the program is that teachers have to remove any book the children might read that is not published by Harper from the classroom. Think about that.)
Well, that's fucked up!
Thanx for the laugh, Jennifer. Buddhist extremeists...doing absolutely nothing at all....
While driving cross-country a few years ago, I caught a snippet from a rightwing rant fest, where a guy was railing about "these Buddhist extremists..." Unfortuntately that was the only part I could hear, but it got me wondering: what is a "Buddhist extremist"? Is that someone who does nothing, nothing at all?
Jennifer
With the fundies, it's "thou shalt have no god save the one WE deem appropriate."
YOu see fire when you see a Buddhist? You mean like thoe Buddhist monks who were immolating themselves in Vietnam in the leadup to the war?
Ron Reagan Jr. is a Buddhist. He seems like he has his shit together. Read once where he said, "Dick Cheney does not seem very mindful. Indeed.
For someone to convert willingly to Mormonism is like someone being a right-wing Jew or a black Rethug: it indicates something is seriously wrong here.
You mean like thoe Buddhist monks who were immolating themselves in Vietnam in the leadup to the war?
Yes. Like I said, I am so going to hell.
They skeedaddle like they've seen a ghost.
Terry C, Unabashed Bush Hater
That was the look.
billy b - air mcnair
That and the pentacle she wears.
But I think even the ones that got hit by cars had richer more catlike lives before they died.
All of this just to say that I thought the comment at the Poorman was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Jennifer
I didn't read the comments, because I knew it would have hateful stuff like that in it.
I believe just as you do, Jennifer. I let mine go in and out, always have. I live on a cul-de-sac (which was a big selling point), so the traffic is very light, and our little area is full of cats, so it's pretty safe. After living here 22 years the first cat fatality only occurred about six months ago, and he was a half-feral cat who really wandered far afield.
All the others tend to pass away naturally in their late-teens or early 20s, so I think the "inside cat" argument is really overrated.
All of this just to say that I thought the comment at the Poorman was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Jennifer
Brava. Pretty much my thoughts on the subject. We moved from the suburbs to an apartment and my outdoor cat is extremely unhappy, still, six years later. We couldn't have kept him in if we tried. Even here, about once a week he darts into the hall trying to get out.
I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
I tell them I'm Quaker and to get the hell off my lawn.
Bush worships at the Great Golden Cattle Prod.
...first car fataility...
The only thing wrong with Mormonism is that it's got one "m" too many in the name.
Eons ago, driving across Alabama with the nuclear family, Dad happened upon a fundy radio station
(while not religious, dad loves gospel music) from which station came " get a genuine, synthetic, aurory-borealis Cross!!!" Dad almost drove in a ditch laughing.
Ron Reagan Jr. is a Buddhist. He seems like he has his shit together. Read once where he said, "Dick Cheney does not seem very mindful. Indeed.
res ipsa loquitur
Funny, because when someone asked Ron if he ever thought of running for public office, he said "No, I'm an atheist. I'd never get elected."
Couldn't stand the old man - like the son enormously.
I have done the same thing and the reaction is just as you have said. Its almost as if they cannot comprehend challenging a non-monotheistic worldview. They don't have the capacity to even argue it.
heh. That's exactly it, HK. None of the fundies I know or have known have any knowledge of much else other than what Reverend Rex or Brother Delbert tells them on Sunday morning and Wednesday night. They'll argue like mad with Methodists, etc., as the different sects of Christianity are variations on a theme, but the Buddhism thing really dumbfounds.
I've heard about the "script teaching"--think it was part of new program in NYC schools. My thought at the time is that it would sure cut down on lesson planning time--and drive anyone who thinks around the bend!
Talk about stifling individualism, creativity, thinking...scary stuff.
But they could then just put robots in the rooms, with a low paid assistant to manage disciplinary problems. With cattle prods or some sort of electric shock.
What is wrong with clipping fingernails in public?
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The unpredictable trajectory of a clipped nail.
The only thing wrong with Mormonism is that it's got one "m" too many in the name.
Jennifer |
The "Angel Moroni" - which I always call "I, Moron."
The only thing wrong with Mormonism is that it's got one "m" too many in the name.
Melts in your mouth, not in your hands.
Jennifer We have a cartoon on our frig titled "The Dali Lama's Birthday Present". The caption is "Just what I've always wanted", and there's nothing inside the box he holds in his hands.
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The unpredictable trajectory of a clipped nail.
Newton Minnow
Those things DO travel.
I tell them I'm Quaker and to get the hell off my lawn.
Or you'll what? Invite them in for supper?
The only thing wrong with Mormonism is that it's got one "m" too many in the name.
Jennifer | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:02 am | #
What's Ormonism? Or did you mean Mormonis?
Good one. I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
There are several Atriettes who could elicit a very strange reaction from these...people. Big smile..."I'm a witch!"
The unpredictable trajectory of a clipped nail.
That's operator error.
Maybe he became a Buddhist after he was an atheist.
He seems like an okay guy. He took a lot of shit while his dad was prez.
Jennifer,
WRT outdoor cats. I had one cat when I moved here four years ago. It was during the breakup of my marriage. My cat was in heat at the time and my ex allowed her out...I got the cat and the kittens in the ensuing separation. The kittens spent the first six months in the house then they decided it was high time to explore the outside world. All eight of them burst upon the neighborhood and formed their own posse. They hunt deer together and co-exist with (and eat with) the local raccoonage. The funny thing is, three of them have set up residence with other neighbors. They come back for the occasional visit but have adopted other families. I live above a dry creek and to wath them exploring out in the wild is really fun. Yes, there are hazards here, but have you ever seen two cats tie a snake in a knot?
I have...they also keep down a lot of the other vermin in the area.
Jennifer,
WRT outdoor cats. I had one cat when I moved here four years ago. It was during the breakup of my marriage. My cat was in heat at the time and my ex allowed her out...I got the cat and the kittens in the ensuing separation. The kittens spent the first six months in the house then they decided it was high time to explore the outside world. All eight of them burst upon the neighborhood and formed their own posse. They hunt deer together and co-exist with (and eat with) the local raccoonage. The funny thing is, three of them have set up residence with other neighbors. They come back for the occasional visit but have adopted other families. I live above a dry creek and to wath them exploring out in the wild is really fun. Yes, there are hazards here, but have you ever seen two cats tie a snake in a knot?
I have...they also keep down a lot of the other vermin in the area.
You mean like thoe Buddhist monks who were immolating themselves in Vietnam in the leadup to the war?
Yes. Like I said, I am so going to hell.
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:01 am |
Me too!
Not a bad idea. The Mormons can be converted to Onanism, and that'll keep 'em busy and cut down on the population growth.
Greetings from Lola and Vinnie.
...egad does anyone else here smell sulfer?
pigboy | 09.23.06 - 10:44 am
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One of the more humorous examples of Tweety's militant cluelessness is the fact that he misunderstood Chavez and accused him of ridiculing Bush with a joke about flatulence.
The unpredictable trajectory of a clipped nail.
Newton Minnow | 09.23.06 - 11:03 am | #
It's all just fun and games until someone loses an eye. Then it becomes a party!
I thought I read this same story yesterday. Same bullshit, different day, I reckon.
Weird Al has a new song and video, "White and Nerdy" available for free download at his site and featuring Donny Osmond.
The Israelites were able to get to Utah because of a golden version of one of those spheres that represent the Old Man's will from the Phantasm series. There's pictures in the Book of Mormon.
The thing I find most disturbing about Mormonism is the colonizing thing. Sure looks a heck like infiltration to me.
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Morning Batties - I agree with your Poorman comment.
Don't put the onus on the victim - the cat was the victim and so was Poorman.
The dog's owner is at fault - not the Poorman.
How is Waffles? It just killed me to read what happened the other day.
Where I grew up it was really country, lots of woods, and our cats all went outdoors, and lived to ripe old ages. otoh, where I am now, in a suburban development, I find other people's loose cats to be pests. They poop in my freshly dug garden beds and attack birds at my backyard feeder.
Maybe he became a Buddhist after he was an atheist.
He seems like an okay guy. He took a lot of shit while his dad was prez.
res ipsa loquitur
I love the shit from the wingers calling him "gay".
Hey, he's been married to the same woman for almost 25 years.
Can they say that about Newt, Rush and the scumbags heroes of the right wing?
Maybe he became a Buddhist after he was an atheist.
The trajectory of faith is ever so much less predictable than the clipped nail...
It is good to see that Riddick has learned what those things are for.
Jennifer - I see I left your name off my comment.
Follows - I'm not all that awake.
The unpredictable trajectory of a clipped nail.
Newton Minnow
Wasn't Lena Olin in that?
I've used this one with the door-to-door and street preachers more than once: I just give them this real intense look when they ask if I've accepted Jesus Christ as my personal lord and savior, and say, "Let's just say that he and I have a ....personal understanding."
Both times I used it, the preachers literally stepped off by physically backing up several paces and making excuses to go on their way.
Eons ago, driving across Alabama with the nuclear family, Dad happened upon a fundy radio station (while not religious, dad loves gospel music) from which station came " get a genuine, synthetic, aurory-borealis Cross!!!" Dad almost drove in a ditch laughing.
plantsman
I gotta tell you, I really miss those small-town radio stations. Reports on agricultural prices sponsored by the local funeral homes, every sort of music under the sun . . .
There's a co-op radio station in Whitesburg, KY - can't remember the name now, it's on the net. It's a real throwback.
And there's a small station in Chama, NM that's much the same.
But the rest of the spectrum is a vast wasteland of over-segmented crap.
Is Yom Kippur next weekend?
In fairness Bush does smell like sulfur. In his childhood his mother told him often that because of his superiority it was charity top allow others to be near to the least of him.
I think Jennifer meant the middle "m"
but because I don't think I have any stereotypes in my head about Buddhists or Buddhism.,
res - that's exactly why I've done it. Back in college the Jesus Freak 'movement' existed and the proselytizers would stand out in front of the cafeteria, intercepting us as we were trying to go eat. The folks were mostly burnout hippies that had 'seen the light'.
I used to tell them I was Jewish to attempt to get them to leave me alone. That worked up to a point, but they'd often continue to try and convert me.
I happened on the Buddhist deal as a result. As you say, they really had no take on it, so the conversation ofrten ended right there. Mission accomplished.
I lost my last 4 cats to old age and all 4 were indoor/outdoor cats.
Two of them lived to be over 20.
Oh, yeah. Fuq Chuck Rangel. Sorry, the Debul made me do it.
The dog's owner is at fault - not the Poorman.
Yes indeed. We have a special responsibility as dog companions in keeping everybody safe. Dog attacks make me so mad.
Greetings from Lola and Vinnie.
NTodd, CT's Next Whale Vagina
Lola always looks like she a good buzz working. What are you feeding that child?
Hey? How did Chris Wallace get those two big red cock-shaped slap marks on either side of his head????
Rosh Hashanah is this weekend and Yom Kippur is the week after next.
I happened on the Buddhist deal as a result. As you say, they really had no take on it, so the conversation ofrten ended right there. Mission accomplished.
When I was a practicing Buddhist, I found out that worked for me, too.
They really do leave you alone if you tell them that.
The trajectory of faith is ever so much less predictable than the clipped nail...
What is the sound of one pre-clipped nail?
Is Yom Kippur next weekend?
It is usually around this time o' the year.
Is Yom Kippur next weekend?
Oct. 1.
Lola always looks like she a good buzz working. What are you feeding that child?
Heroin. Keeps 'em docile.
So that's why all those Rosh Hashanan Recipe tips are everywhere!
Cats and the outdoors: I adopted cats and had to promise I would keep them as indoor cats (they had been so before). This week, when I had the front storm door open to carry in something large, two of them got outside. But I didn't notice.
I was surprised as supper time that only one of the cats showed up--and feared the others might be sick, but couldn't find them. Not unusual if a cat is under the weather.
Later, when getting ready for bed, I heard my boy cat calling to me through the window. Then, found the littel female kind hanging around him. Took a long time to get them inside, as both were pretty freaked, but opening a can of cat food did it.
Well, there was a strange odor (and, yes, it was close to the day BushBoy spoke at the UN...) outside, but nothing a I could readily identify.
Later, however, when the boy cat was settling down on the bed to sleep, I realized what it was: He'd gotten a slight spray of skunk. The little female was way too skittish to get close, but that boy cat is afraid of nothing.
Thank goodness for sinus problems!
The trajectory of faith is ever so much less predictable than the clipped nail...
What is the sound of one pre-clipped nail?
NTodd, CT's Next Whale Vagina | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:10 am | #
If one is engaging in sex with one's partner, it's usually:
"Ow!" *Slap!*
Prezilldent - that must be from the bitch-slapping from a powerful Clenis.
Is Yom Kippur next weekend?
res ipsa loquitur
I'm not Jewish - no idea. Why don't you ask George Allen?
To the market, batses!
Yes indeed. We have a special responsibility as dog companions in keeping everybody safe. Dog attacks make me so mad.
NTodd,
Are you being snarky or serious? Did I step into an argument, 'cause I didn't read the whole thread.
Dog attacks make me mad,too - dogs can kill people and other animals. Generally, cats are only a threat to other cats and smaller animals and birds.
The unpredictable trajectory of a clipped nail.
Newton Minnow
Wasn't Lena Olin in that?
LittlePig | 09.23.06 - 11:08 am | #
Another book I'm 'supposed' to read, and haven't. I think that's what retirement is for.
Actually, in some schools of Reform Judaism, Yom Kippur could be now if you like. How much time have you got? (joke)
It's always about sex with you, innit, ror?
I gotta tell you, I really miss those small-town radio stations. Reports on agricultural prices sponsored by the local funeral homes, every sort of music under the sun . . .
My favorite part of travel to down South.
I think Jennifer meant the middle "m"
Karin | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:09 am | #
Ya think?
It's always about sex with you, innit, ror?
NTodd
You say that like it's a bad thing.
It's always about sex with you, innit, ror?
I may have played some small part in it.
It's always about sex with you, innit, ror?
NTodd, CT's Next Whale Vagina | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:13 am | #
Sorry.
Doggies do not attack unless something is wrong.
This whole George Felix Macaca Allen Junior is Jewish thing isn't generating sympathy for him, is it? I think Somerby had a point when he said that people might get pissed if you drag Macaca's 83-year-old mama into it.
Are you being snarky or serious? Did I step into an argument, 'cause I didn't read the whole thread.
Serious. I fucking hate dog owners who don't understand dog psychology and fail to take responsibilities for their companions' actions. Instead of buying dog licenses for the dogs, it's the people who should be licensed and have to take a test. Most of my neighbors here are great about their canines, but I have one neighbor who just doesn't get it, and I feel sorry for their animal.
I need help deciding.
This:
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or this:
http://www.abdallahcandies.com/P...?
productid=0010
Out of Pagosa Springs, heading south, used to pick up a station from the Rez. Now that was fun. They'd have announcements about gatherings and remind everyone to bring his or her own chair.
We just spoil those Native Americans so much -
Is Yom Kippur next weekend?
So no one is going to dive in with "Yom Clipper"?
Sad. Very sad.
What is the sound of one pre-clipped nail?
"OK, I'ma drive this nail in one hit! Here, hold my beer..."
This whole George Felix Macaca Allen Junior is Jewish thing isn't generating sympathy for him, is it? I think Somerby had a point when he said that people might get pissed if you drag Macaca's 83-year-old mama into it.
res ipsa loquitur
Yep. I was surprised when I read that, not having considered it, but it looks to be right. Always the stupid little mistakes.
Hey, it's fall now, isn't it?
Whee! Fall!
NTodd - that's very right...a few weeks ago, I couldn't believe it, there was this argument over at HuffingtonPost about the Dog Whisperer, all these folks saying, "oh, this guy is just trying to prove his Latino machismo by forcing dogs to submit to him." I couldn't fricken believe some of the crap over there. There's nothing that dude does that qualifies as abusive of spirit-breaking or that denies dogs their primal dogness. It's as though some of the loonytunes believed that it hurts a dog's feelings to be treated as they would be treated by other dogs. Nutso. A good many of the dogs that are euthanized in shelters end up there in the first place because of behavioral problems that their owners either didn't know how to fix, or were unwilling to fix because they wouldn't treat the dog as a dog rather than a person.
Serious. I fucking hate dog owners who don't understand dog psychology and fail to take responsibilities for their companions' actions. Instead of buying dog licenses for the dogs, it's the people who should be licensed and have to take a test.
I agree - especially with big dogs - frankly, they scare me.
I was trapped and bitten once and I'm wary as hell now.
This whole George Felix Macaca Allen Junior is Jewish thing isn't generating sympathy for him, is it? I think Somerby had a point when he said that people might get pissed if you drag Macaca's 83-year-old mama into it.
res ipsa loquitur
Are you kidding. Senator George Felix Macacastein Allen, Jr., is now the champion of the oppressed minority, living his life to help the unfortunate!
(I can't believe I got that out without cracking up.)
He tried on CNN the other day - ain't nobody buying it. He's just a jerk that can't control his mouth, who has given eleventyeight contradictory explanations for "Macaca," and is in a downard spiral of his own making.
The fact that I was thinking of the thumb nail probably wasn't as obvious as I'd like...
Hey, it's fall now, isn't it?
As of today, I believe.
There was nothing at the gate preventing entry to MacDill, which houses the U.S. Central Command, responsible for U.S. military operations in the Horn of Africa, Middle East and Central Asia and therefore for much of the U.S. war on terror.
"Back in college the Jesus Freak 'movement' existed and the proselytizers would stand out in front of the cafeteria, intercepting us as we were trying to go eat. The folks were mostly burnout hippies that had 'seen the light"
My best friend and I were atheists for a few years (12-13) and the girl down the street took us to hang with the jesus freaks at her church.
We felt some "thing" singing those songs so we decided to become agnostic.
Ann Coulter admitted to Brian Lamb that she was a teen-aged atheist, such a hypocrit.
Personally, res, I think everyone is laughing at Allen by now.
When I was a practicing Buddhist, I found out that worked for me, too.
They really do leave you alone if you tell them that.
Well, Ms. Tena I've never been anything but a practicing Methodist and that's been a day or two ago.
If you tell a fundy you're a Methodist and the fun begins. Fundies see Methodists as barely Christian at all (you don't BELIEVE in anything like not dancing, not listening to rock music, etc.)
One of my sisters recently bagen going to one of the most fundy churches in my hometown. The preacher asked her if she ever joined a church and she said she'd been baptized in the Methodist Church. He told her that wasn't 'good enough'.
I've told 'em I'm a Buddhist before also. That elicits a very strange reaction from them. They get a weird look on their face and get real quiet.
I'm not really a Buddhist, but I've used that one to good effect a few times myself. It works a lot better than all those secular humanist, rational agnostic-type arguments. They're usually ready for those.
There was nothing at the gate preventing entry to MacDill
I wouldn't be sure of that.
I gotta tell you, I really miss those small-town radio stations. Reports on agricultural prices sponsored by the local funeral homes, every sort of music under the sun . . .
My favorite part of travel to down South.
footloose
It's fading out, sad to say, as everything gets swallowed up. I still get a lot of joy tuning around on AM at night, but things are a lot more homongenized than they were back in the day.
Aw, jeez, I'm becoming an old fart!
Is it still against the law to beat the fuck out of freepers?
I don't see how it helps Bush that bin Ladin died a natural death.
Bush will claim that his buddy, the Spirit in the Sky, took out Osama when he asked Him in prayer to do it and promised to spend Osama's bounty getting Haliburton to build Christian churches in Afghanistan.
Out of Pagosa Springs, heading south, used to pick up a station from the Rez.
Tena
That's the Jicarilla station out of Dulce, I think.
I'm actually wearing my KFLH (Chama) t-shirt right now.
ExxonMobile being sued for age discrimination.
It works a lot better than all those secular humanist, rational agnostic-type arguments. They're usually ready for those.
blerb
I don't know, ya start quoting Kant and Hume and their eyes kinda glaze over...
btw, just noticed Arthur Silber is back, and has a great post about pro-war "liberals", aka Useful Idiots.
In Five Germanys I Have Known, Fritz Stern – a coauthor of the 1988 New York Times text defending liberalism – writes of his concern about the condition of the liberal spirit in America today. It is with the extinction of that spirit, he notes, that the death of a republic begins. Stern, a historian and a refugee from Nazi Germany, speaks with authority on this matter. And he is surely correct. We don’t expect right-wingers to care very much about the health of a republic, particularly when they are assiduously engaged in the unilateral promotion of empire. And the ideological left, while occasionally adept at analysing the shortcomings of a liberal republic, is typically not much interested in defending it.
It is the liberals, then, who count. They are, as it might be, the canaries in the sulphurous mineshaft of modern democracy. The alacrity with which many of America’s most prominent liberals have censored themselves in the name of the War on Terror, the enthusiasm with which they have invented ideological and moral cover for war and war crimes and proffered that cover to their political enemies: all this is a bad sign. Liberal intellectuals used to be distinguished precisely by their efforts to think for themselves, rather than in the service of others. Intellectuals should not be smugly theorising endless war, much less confidently promoting and excusing it. They should be engaged in disturbing the peace – their own above all.
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/
I fucking hate dog owners who don't understand dog psychology and fail to take responsibilities for their companions' actions. Instead of buying dog licenses for the dogs, it's the people who should be licensed and have to take a test. Most of my neighbors here are great about their canines, but I have one neighbor who just doesn't get it, and I feel sorry for their animal.
NTodd, CT's Next Whale Vagina | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:16 am
Dayton police have recently busted several dog-fighting rings. Owners putting the dogs on steroids and treadmills, and fighting.
The general consensus at work is that the idiots who did this should be shot up with steriods, chains put around their nexts, and dropped into a Toughman contest. Fuckers.
Jennifer - I do have some issues with Cesar's approach, but overall I think he's right. He could lighten up a little and admit compromise in the pack, perhaps. No matter: he gets results which means the dogs will have a much better, longer life and everybody around them will be safer and happier.
Tena - when I was 7 I was bitten on the nose by a big German shep. He was on a chain in a yard and the kids there said he was friendly, but when I walked up to greet him he lunged and snapped at my face. So I do actually have a fear of dogs, which is why I work so hard on mine from a behavioral POV.
Ann Coulter admitted to Brian Lamb that she was a teen-aged atheist, such a hypocrit.
Nancy Willing
Q
This whole George Felix Macaca Allen Junior is Jewish thing isn't generating sympathy for him, is it?
Maybe a pity fuck from the Council of Conservative Citizens' Comfort Women’s Auxiliary, but that's the extent of it...
Ann Coulter admitted to Brian Lamb that she was a teen-aged atheist, such a hypocrit.
Nancy Willing
I have no idea what just happened -
Quick - name one person on the right who isn't a hypocrite. Just one.
Hey, it's fall now, isn't it?
As of today, I believe.
Yup. Also my wedding anniversary. Feh.
Dood kills his wife at NC women's shelter. It's the Bible Belt y'know.
Yes indeed. We have a special responsibility as dog companions in keeping everybody safe. Dog attacks make me so mad.
Then you must really hate Joey Porter.
He just got cited for his dogs killing a miniture horse.
Ann Coulter admitted to Brian Lamb that she was a teen-aged atheist, such a hypocrit.
Nancy Willing
"I Was A Teen-Aged Atheist Pre-Op Tranny"
Another fundie brain-twister:
Ask them why they have such an intense focus on the Rapture (don't even get into the part about how some British fundie minister made all that shit up back in the 1830s). Ask them, if you're doing everything the way Jesus said you should be doing it, why would you even bother thinking about the Rapture? It shouldn't matter to you one way or the other. Right?
I don't see how it helps Bush that bin Ladin died a natural death.
Bush will claim that his buddy, the Spirit in the Sky, took out Osama when he asked Him in prayer to do it and promised to spend Osama's bounty getting Haliburton to build Christian churches in Afghanistan.
Gimlet
"See? If that goddamn heathen Klintoon had been a good Christian, Osama would have already been dead. Why didn't Klintoon pray as hard as Saint Arbusto? Huh? Answer me that, Lib." [/wangnut]
Saying Bin Laden is dead takes the heat off.
That's why its being said.
That's the Jicarilla station out of Dulce, I think.
Very well could be - I can't recall if I ever heard. I haven't gone to New Mexico through Pagosa Springs in years. They keep tearing Wolf Creek Pass up and it's not worth it anymore.
My favorite part of travel to down South.
footloose
well, you have probably heard the joke about why Baptists don't make love standing up...?
people might think they were dancing.
Goodness, I thought Q was supposed to mean something..
Quick - name one person on the right who isn't a hypocrite. Just one.
Tena | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:23 am | #
William F. Buckley
LittlePig, et al. -- Dylan's MX radio show really captures that old-time feel, the way he introduces the songs, tells a bit about them and the performers. His voice even has a nice late-night dj feel.
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Bonjour tout le monde!
Snow: weren't you here at 3 am with moi? Just woke up dear...where is the breakfast
Happy doggies are everyone's friends. Although, if I were a kitty or raccoon, I wouldn't test this theory.
RO: weren't you here at 3 am with moi? Just woke up dear...where is the breakfast
Macacastein?
I just discovered how to "borrow" songs from podcasts.
I am so behind the times.
Snow: weren't you here at 3 am with moi? Just woke up dear...where is the breakfast
Eggs, steaks and grits are on the table. Was I here at 3 am?
This whole George Felix Macaca Allen Junior is Jewish thing isn't generating sympathy for him, is it?
Maybe a pity fuck from the Council of Conservative Citizens' Comfort Women’s Auxiliary, but that's the extent of it...
driftglass
driftglass!!!!!!
NTodd - up. Also my wedding anniversary. Feh.
NTodd, CT's
Celebrate your freedom. That's the only way to get through some of that bullshit.
{{{{{{MWAAH}}}}}} - you're a hot young thing. You are. Start making the most of it!
You funny, driftglass.
William F. Buckley
I agree. Buckley took his boat out into international waters just to smoke pot.
That is scrupulous.
William F. Buckley
rorschach
Ya think?
Ok.
Saying Bin Laden is dead takes the heat off.
That's why its being said.
"Killed" by someone's falling poll ratings.
Another Zogby-related death.
Macacastein?
res ipsa loquitur
Thank you - I'm here all week. Tip your servers!
well, you have probably heard the joke about why Baptists don't make love standing up...?
people might think they were dancing.
Hellkitty | 09.23.06 - 11:25 am | #
Indeed, though I always heard it as "because it might lead to dancing."
When I was studying at Oxford, there were some exchange students from some religious college in Missouri, which relied heavily upon the money of some old donor--the stipulation being that there never be dances held on campus...
So the college, instead, has "foot functions." No, I did not make that up.
Foot functions.
Continuing on with the religious theme of my last post - Is Nim getting ready to watch Wisconsin v. Michigan?
You can guess what number 2 is on every Notre Damer's prayer list.
Hint: Number 1 is to humiliate MSU.
you're a hot young thing. You are. Start making the most of it!
Tena
NO FLIRTING!
I think Barry Goldwater wasn't a hypocrite. Of course, he's dead now.
Eggs, steaks and grits are on the table. Was I here at 3 am?
Snow
maybe it was 2am, who look at the clock at that late hour............
I don't know, ya start quoting Kant and Hume and their eyes kinda glaze over...
I think it's that they have been trained to autonomically respond to any assertions about a rational basis for moral behavior as the words of Satan. One of them actually told me, after I explained to her at length why I did not need the threat of hellfire to enforce my morality, which I felt emerged naturally from my rationalist worldview, that all of that was just Satan speaking through me. Somehow, if you bring another religion that they ecognize into it, they can't use that canned "atheism is satanism" response.
I don't know, ya start quoting Kant and Hume and their eyes kinda glaze over...
I think it's that they have been trained to autonomically respond to any assertions about a rational basis for moral behavior as the words of Satan. One of them actually told me, after I explained to her at length why I did not need the threat of hellfire to enforce my morality, which I felt emerged naturally from my rationalist worldview, that all of that was just Satan speaking through me. Somehow, if you bring another religion that they ecognize into it, they can't use that canned "atheism is satanism" response.
William F. Buckley
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:25 am |
Buckley is probably MOCKINGBIRD and lies often enough in his writing and speaking that he cannot be considered honest. We are certain that if we knew him better we could find some basic hypocrisy, in particular regarding his precious crossworshipping.
Buckley is a jackass, but at least he is consistent, mostly...
Tena! Res!
I'm plagarizing, but it's from myself so I think I'm covered.
Buona Sera, Plum P.
phenomonon. Jeezus H. Spelling Bee.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Phenomenon. Jeezus H. Spelling Bee on a crutch.
Buckley is a jackass, but at least he is consistent, mostly...
rorschac
I'll buy it - I haven't listened to him in over 20 years and if I hear him in 20 more it will be too soon.
maybe it was 2am
That is more like it. I'm too old for 3 am. Well, for just talking anyway.
I don't know, ya start quoting Kant and Hume and their eyes kinda glaze over...
I think it's that they have been trained to autonomically respond to any assertions about a rational basis for moral behavior as the words of Satan.
I gotcher categorical imperative swingin', baby!
(Apologies to NTodd for being too nearly sexual with this comment. I hate to offend.)
Buona Sera, Plum P.
Tena
merci! Any news from Vicki this morning? She had a date last night and her purse was stolen at the club where she went. Lost her wallet, everything. We worry about her lately, that falling in love thing is dangerous.
Macacastein?
lol! Though it sounds suspiciously Scottish...
Felix Macacastein of the Klan Macacastein.
In the end, there can be only one.
Ann Coulter admitted to Brian Lamb that she was a teen-aged atheist, such a hypocrit.
Nancy Willing
Not surprising at all. Bork was a Commie as a kid. Halfawitz is an ex Stalinist. Once an extremist picks an extreme, there's no law says they won't just up and pendulum all the way to the other side. They do it all the time...
And the Haloscan Bakery is closed again today? Where's my cookie!?
So how do torturers worship a guy on a cross who was tortured with the idea that him being tortured and on the cross was a bad thing?
Macacastein?
Jewbaca.
Ann Coulter admitted to Brian Lamb that she was a teen-aged atheist, such a hypocrit.
Nancy Willing
Then she realized that Jesus sells. Just like the Chimpster did.
I think Barry Goldwater wasn't a hypocrite. Of course, he's dead now.
Jennifer
Goldwater couldn't get elected dogcatcher in the Conservative movement today - too damn liberal.
I'll buy it - I haven't listened to him in over 20 years and if I hear him in 20 more it will be too soon.
Tena | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:30 am | #
Word. Same here. Though I have occasionally been taking a look at one of his earliest works, from the 50s--a book defending McCarthy, of all people...
So how do torturers worship a guy on a cross who was tortured with the idea that him being tortured and on the cross was a bad thing?
Gomez
He was tortured for their benefit.
That worked out so well they want to give some other Middle Eastern folk a chance.
NTodd - re: Cesar Millan - don't know about the "pack" stuff, but one thing's for sure - his whole bit about how you carry yourself is dead-on correct. I have to go into customer's yards and houses all the time when they aren't home in my job, and I don't have any "dog problems", even with the big ones or with dogs that the owners say are typically hostile to new people. I learned a long time ago by helping my Dad at his clinic how to deal with stranger dogs.
Ann Coulter admitted to Brian Lamb that she was a teen-aged atheist, such a hypocrit.
Nancy Willing
Then she realized that Jesus sells. Just like the Chimpster did.
Dr. Wu
Ding! We have a winner - give that man a cigar.
William F. Buckley knocks affirmative action but defends legacy admissions. There is your hypocrisy.
Is it still against the law to beat the fuck out of freepers?
Gomez
It's against the law to exceed the speed limit, too. But a lot of times there isn't a cop around. Just sayin'.
Plum P - I just got here myself. I'm sorry to hear that about Vicki.
This shit seems to be going around. I realized last week that the car thieves in Alb took more than my glove box - they took all 4 of my headrests, too.
But that still is much much easier to deal with than losing all your ID and everything. I'm so sorry that happened to Vicki. Wow.
So how do torturers worship a guy on a cross who was tortured with the idea that him being tortured and on the cross was a bad thing?
Hate.
But that still is much much easier to deal with than losing all your ID and everything. I'm so sorry that happened to Vicki. Wow.
Tena
i know! This sucks. Hard.
Foot functions.
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:28 am | #
could lead to toe sucking...
no, I really didn't just say that.
Is it still against the law to beat the fuck out of freepers?
Gomez
It's against the law to exceed the speed limit, too. But a lot of times there isn't a cop around. Just sayin'.
Dr. Wu
That was my original thought, but then realized that the freepi in question might be able to identify you.
But suddenly a Dr. Wu enlightment came to mind - just make sure you wear a mask, Gomez. If the bandana don't fit they must acquit.
I realized last week that the car thieves in Alb took more than my glove box - they took all 4 of my headrests, too.
Well, at least there are four fewer people in ABQ with sore necks from sleeping without anything upon which to rest their heads!
could lead to toe sucking...
And that would be bad because . . . ?
Foot functions.
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:28 am | #
could lead to toe sucking...
no, I really didn't just say that.
Hellkitty
That was the first thing in my mind. You're not alone.
But suddenly a Dr. Wu enlightment came to mind - just make sure you wear a mask, Gomez. If the bandana don't fit they must acquit.
LittlePig
Ahhh! You grow wise, Grasshopper!
Foot functions.
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:28 am | #
could lead to toe sucking...
no, I really didn't just say that.
Hellkitty | 09.23.06 - 11:37 am | #
Careful. NTodd will accuse me of always being about sex, again...
'round midnight here last night, check the thread: a couple of hours of TV shows porn names. We're not Kos here, no sir. We're too silly for that!
Well, at least there are four fewer people in ABQ with sore necks from sleeping without anything upon which to rest their heads!
rorschach
All the realization did was to make me feel that much luckier that they were interrupted - they were going to strip the car; that much is obvious now.
Chop shops, baby.
Back in a few, batties.
Goldwater had to have known the forces behind him. Personally, I'm tired of all the hagiography about the guy.
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Careful. NTodd will accuse me of always being about sex, again...
That's jealousy talking.
That other Ron in the Delta.
"...And let us not grow weary in well doing." Galations 6:9
http://www.myersfoundation.net/
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could lead to toe sucking...
And that would be bad because . . .
Nail schrapnel. I've heard it can cause blindness.
But then again, what fun stuff doesn't?
what rhymes with toe sucking?
could lead to toe sucking...
no, I really didn't just say that.
Hellkitt
heh...heh...heh...
Toe sucking was pretty cool in my younger days, say around the age of 18.
Now that I'm much older and the feetsies are all calloused and shit, not so much...
Nail schrapnel.
Not if you clip them first. Now we are back to nail clipping in public.
what rhymes with toe sucking?
Rake mucking?
what rhymes with toe sucking?
Hellkitty
pillow fluffing?
did anyone else catch the humor of the Times calling 800,000 people celebrating Hezbollah's victory a "throng" ?
a throng? would 2.6 million people then be a "crowd" ?
Now that I'm much older and the feetsies are all calloused and shit, not so much...
billy b
good point!
try maple syrup on young toes...delish!
what rhymes with toe sucking?
Hellkitty
pillow fluffing?
Plum P | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:42 am | #
Mo' fucking.
Now that I'm much older and the feetsies are all calloused and shit, not so much...
Pumice, oils, massaging.
Mo' fucking.
rorschach
Oy! Again with the Sex! [/Macacastein]
Not if you clip them first. Now we are back to nail clipping in public.
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:41 am | #
I think the thing that bothers me the most about nail clipping is not the potential hazard of flying debris, its the noise. Clip clip clip. Drives me nuts.
The major concern that's breaking out in the right blogosphere is that Osama's death may have come too early for the elections. A typical comment "Ask me in a month".
Oy! Again with the Sex! [/Macacastein]
jac | 09.23.06 - 11:45 am | #
With sincere apologies to NTodd and his delicate sensibilities.
Mo' fucking.
rorschach
Oy! Again with the Sex! [/Macacastein]
jac | 09.23.06 - 11:45 am | #
Ah. I've been absent a few days. Good to know I can still jump right in!
So how do torturers worship a guy on a cross who was tortured with the idea that him being tortured and on the cross was a bad thing?
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Bill Maher asked this of Fox's Sandy Rios last night. She kept talking about Revelations and how Jesus was coming back as a warrior with a sword to kill his enemies. The Church argued about whether to put the damn book in the canon, because it was so out of keeping with the rest. Think how many deaths have been justified because they put it in.
There are 2 types of Christians: those who follow the Jesus of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John; and those who view those books as a kind of pomegranate sherbet intermezzo to clean the palate between heavy doses of Leviticus and Revelations.
I think the thing that bothers me the most about nail clipping is not the potential hazard of flying debris, its the noise. Clip clip clip. Drives me nuts.
Now that makes sense. I don't get the people who say it is disgusting though.
Good to know I can still jump right in!
whiskeyina | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:47 am | #
With me, anytime! NTodd's a bit touchy about talking about sex though...
Good to know I can still jump right in!
The water's great.
and those who view those books as a kind of pomegranate sherbet intermezzo to clean the palate between heavy doses of Leviticus and Revelations.
Newton Minnow
Ah. I've been absent a few days. Good to know I can still jump right in!
whiskeyina
Toss off your clothes and lick your eyebrows!
With me, anytime! NTodd's a bit touchy about talking about sex though...
rorschach
why?
Hey, you doggie-people. Anyone wanna recommend good books on the subject?
I am spending a hellacious amount of time (this may become permanent) with a 4-year-old doggie with separation anxiety and no training except "how to wrap the people around my little claw." He's a total love, though. Anybody written about How Dogs Think, and how you behave around them to bring out their best? I'm not the authoritarian type, so no hard-core "you'll obey me or else" stuff... Any recommendations?
Clinton Fights back and kicks ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h?v=V-
0evg0Du5g
Their pet program is something promoted by the Harper Collins people called Reading First. (this does not apply to the upper elementary teachers . . . yet. But one of the rules of the program is that teachers have to remove any book the children might read that is not published by Harper from the classroom. Think about that.)
Jayzus!! Is DWD still around? Holden posted this yesterday!
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A scorching internal review of the Bush administration's billion-dollar-a-year reading program says the Education Department ignored the law and ethical standards to steer money how it wanted.
The government audit is unsparing in its view that the Reading First program has been beset by conflicts of interest and willful mismanagement. It suggests the department broke the law by trying to dictate which curriculum schools must use.
It also depicts a program in which review panels were stacked with people who shared the director's views, and in which only favored publishers of reading curricula could get money.
If he's not, can someone please point him to this article later?
There are 2 types of Christians: those who follow the Jesus of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John; and those who view those books as a kind of pomegranate sherbet intermezzo to clean the palate between heavy doses of Leviticus and Revelations.
Newton Minnow | 09.23.06 - 11:47 am | #
There are two kinds of pomegranate lovers: Christian and non-Christian. I am the latter.
did anyone else catch the humor of the Times calling 800,000 people celebrating Hezbollah's victory a "throng" ?
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The US equivalent would be 60 million.
why?
NTodd wants all teh sex for himself.
Neo-conservatism has become a spent force.
With me, anytime! NTodd's a bit touchy about talking about sex though...
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:49 am | #
Now that makes sense. I don't get the people who say it is disgusting though.
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:49 am | #
I think it's fascinating: the characters that we write for ourselves to play, in life and online...
With me, anytime! NTodd's a bit touchy about talking about sex though...
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:49 am | #
Now that makes sense. I don't get the people who say it is disgusting though.
Snow, Frank Sinatra | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:49 am | #
I think it's fascinating: the characters that we write for ourselves to play, in life and online...
don't know about the "pack" stuff, but one thing's for sure - his whole bit about how you carry yourself is dead-on correct.
Absolutley, as is his whole notion of "phrasing". Confidence, body language and consistency in commands. That's what it takes.
Ahoy!
Oh, damn. I missed Sailor Day.
Okay -- HICA!
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CNN has moved on from bin Laden to . . . agro-terrorism. All beacuse some company polluted a valley of fields.
With me, anytime! NTodd's a bit touchy about talking about sex though...
rorschach |
Guess he figures, once the pants are off, the talking stops...
NTodd wants all teh sex for himself.
Snow
typical...
Any recommendations?
Be the pack leader.
http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/
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why?
Plum P | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:50 am | #
Alls I know is that he kinda bit my head off, and rather hurt my feelings.
I've been away for a while, and was looking forward to talking with him again, so it's rather disheartening.
NTodd wants all teh sex for himself.
Only Snow truly understands me and my...needs.
JP + CURLY!
I think it's fascinating: the characters that we write for ourselves to play, in life and online...
Well, that isn't quite the character I would have chosen for myself, the public nail-clipper.
I've been away for a while, and was looking forward to talking with him again, so it's rather disheartening.
rorschach
NTodd...the bastard!
Alls I know is that he kinda bit my head off, and rather hurt my feelings.
Um, it was a joke, duh.
I think it's fascinating: the characters that we write for ourselves to play, in life and online...
whiskeyina | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:52 am | #
I'd like to play with your character, baby.
(Just illustrating your point!)
pie - there was heavy pressure to only use McGraw-Hill programs in Reading First.
Unsurprisingly, McGraw-Hill have been unflagging Bush/GOP contributors.
Wire services are reporting an american drone has successfully killed Bin Laden in Pakistan.
Personally, res, I think everyone is laughing at Allen by now.
Tena
Personally, I think as many people as possible should be going "Mazel tov!" at him in public, just to catch him--on tape, if possible--in a Linda Blair moment...
the public nail-clipper.
Snow
no, you are the atriettes boytoy!
Howdee, Plum!
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Only Snow truly understands me and my...needs.
Now why do people keep thinking I'm a girl?
NTodd...the bastard!
Am not. I'm pretty sure I know who my dad was.
no, you are the atriettes boytoy!
See, plum p gets me.
"George Bush says Iraq is the Most Important Thing Evah. He's sure fucking it up."
That depends. If you were an ultra wealthy repub sharing in the billions being sucked out of American taxpayers and funneled through Iraq things would look a lot different.
Now why do people keep thinking I'm a girl?
Because they're all sexists.
there was heavy pressure to only use McGraw-Hill programs in Reading First.
The fact that all other books must be removed from the classroom is extraordianry and apparently, illegal, which is not surprising.
DWD should read the article so he has some ammunition.
no, you are the atriettes boytoy!
See, plum p gets me.
[sobs, realizing he's too old to be boytoy]
Now why do people keep thinking I'm a girl?
Snow
I think it's the Jimmy Choo slingbacks, the halter, and the miniskirt you were wearing yesterday.
But I could be wrong.
Absolutley, as is his whole notion of "phrasing". Confidence, body language and consistency in commands. That's what it takes.
Well, that and a big shovel. The shovel says 'phrasing' pretty well, also.
[sobs, realizing he's too old to be boytoy]
NTodd, CT's Next Whale Vagina | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 11:58 am | #
Not in my book, sweetcheeks.
There are 2 types of Christians: those who follow the Jesus of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John; and those who view those books as a kind of pomegranate sherbet intermezzo to clean the palate between heavy doses of Leviticus and Revelations.
Newton Minnow | 09.23.06 - 11:47 am
Fooking brilliant! Something I've been thinking and put so well and succinctly.
BushBoy is definitely in second group, if he thinks at all about meaning of Bibilical teachings.
I can't even imagine what kind of voice(s) he hears when he thinks he's communicating with his "heavenly father." Is there any smell of sulphur, Chimpy? Inquiring minds want to know. Chavez thinks he already knows.
A regional newspaper in France? What a source for this kind of scoop...
"The French regional daily L'Est Republicain reported that, according to a French secret service report, Saudi Arabia is convinced bin Laden died of typhoid in Pakistan in late August. The French government has said it could not confirm the report and would investigate the intelligence leak"
let me say C'EST DE LA MERDE!
[sobs, realizing he's too