I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Where there's smoke there's water.
Smooooke on water.....
2nd?
When you want to make a point, repeating the text three times is good.
Smoking ban = revenue enhancement.
OT: A civil response to Dean Broder. Not.
Nah... I'm staying out of this one.
In the meantime, amuse yourselves with the Official Anthem of "President" Drunken Sociopathic Clusterfuck...
Ok, now it's down to one.
That's how we Jews used to be able to divorce our wives.
Damn that Bill Clinton.
Shit. Broder here.
If we can't smoke, then we can't drink, and if we can't drink, then we can't, well, you get the idea.
Nah... I'm staying out of this one.
I'm with you. The last two *discussions* have been doozies.
No Smooooookin'!
But, Broder is an honorable man.
Well anyway, as I said two threads down:
You know, for my beloved Bill to go on Fox and slap Chris Matthews around with that laser-sharp intelligence and boldness of his -- and the power of truth -- is EXACTLY what he should be doing.
I'd like to see him on every single wingnut cable show, doing the same thing, over and over again. The man's a freaking superhero with bullets bouncing off him everywhere. It's a hell of a show. People tune in to that kind of thing. It's dramatic -- they tune in expecting their hero to wipe the floor with the guy they hate, and look what happens! Dramatic reversal! Their guy ends up looking like a moron! It's pro wrestling! Showbiz! The wingnuts like to see anyone get their heads handed to them, and Bill can do it with style and fireworks. I'd love to see him keep doing this for the next two years & some (please god, keep him healthy), until we take both houses and the White House.
I only smoke when I drink. If I can't smoke, when I drink, then I will learn to not smoke while drinking.
I love Philly, I think it's a great city. The only thing I didn't like about it was that people smoked in restaurants, which seemed to me very anachronistic for such a hip town.
I'm a rara avis: an ex-smoker who refuses to proselytize against smoking or to endorse anti-smoking legislation...
dims any of you ever reach absolute dimhood? anything there?
Being from southern NJ the only place I had to go to smoke and drink was Philly.
I'll miss it, but I've seen this wave coming for a long time and have gotten over it in advance. The bars in Jersey don't seem to have lost any revenue banning smoking. After the initial shock wears off, the Philly bars will be fine.
Crooks and Liars is taking mucho time to load. I got there through a headline link at HuffPo. They have the entire Clinton/Wallace transcript posted; and after the part I quoted last thread, Bill REALLY gets busy wasting Wallace. It's awesome!
I only smoke when I drink. If I can't smoke, when I drink, then I will learn to not smoke while drinking.
David (Austin Tx) | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 1:59 pm | #
As Eddie Izzard puts it: There's no smoking in bars. Next there'll be no drinking and then no talking.
dims any of you ever reach absolute dimhood? anything there?
dith
Just you, sadly.
They have the entire Clinton/Wallace transcript posted; and after the part I quoted last thread, Bill REALLY gets busy wasting Wallace. It's awesome!
Yeah, that's the part they're definitely going to edit.
All smokers use Macs.
All smokers use Macs.
We just got one passed in Seattle last year. I voted against it not due to being for smoking in any way it's just that my inner libertarian tends to bristle at what I refer to as "common sense legislation" It seems to be going over well thus far. I haven't heard of any places loosing money over it other than some of those all night places where I'm convinced the only attraction of them is as a place to go and smoke. The only sticking point which has a lot of critics thinking it will eventually bounce in the courts is a small clause in the legislation saying that you can't smoke within 20 feet of a public place. So far everyone ignores that one and I've yet to hear of it being enforced.
dims any of you ever reach absolute dimhood? anything there?
dith
Shouldn't you be fleeing the city right about now?
All smokers use Macs.
Because using a Mac is like having sex.
Uh-oh. I've seen threads which have nothing to do with this devolve quickly into smoking wars. This could be scary.
All smokers use Macs.
NTodd, CT's Next Mangina | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:03 pm | #
Mac lights, Mac menthol, or Mac 100s?
Smoke? I don't care if you burn!
And a Harry Truman moment.
My brother just sent me this:
http://www.toddalbert.com/files/...s/
bushsmack.swf
Click on the fists in the foreground.
All smokers use Macs.
Because using a Mac is like having sex.
plantsman, lowercase
'
Says it for me.
Yah dith - thought you were going to hit the trail, climb mountains and all those other lies.
Good one from Christy at Firedoglake...
Shit, I'm used to having to go outside to smoke now.
When they start passing laws that tell me I can't smoke anywhere, including outside or my own house or car, then we'll have trouble.
Because using a Mac is like having sex.
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:04 pm | #
You user! How dare you objectify the, um, object with which you are...
I've seen threads which have nothing to do with this devolve quickly into smoking wars. This could be scary.
Rove is a genius!
I'm worried, people...
dims any of you ever reach absolute dimhood? anything there?
dith
No one can get much dimmer than you, dude.
All smokers use Macs.
Apple tastes good, like a cigarette should!
You know, for my beloved Bill to go on Fox and slap Chris Matthews around
Chris Wallace, son of CBS's Mike Wallace, not Chris Matthews, brother of Jim Matthews, republican candidate for lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania.
We in Austin are fortunate in that we can, and do sit outside for 10 months out of the year, so the smoking ban only hurts those places that don't have outside seating. Which is very few places, and most of those have adapted to make them more appealing to non-smokers. Those people who go to a bar only to smoke, can find bars outside of the city limits that cater to people who like that.
I'm a rara avis: an ex-smoker who refuses to proselytize against smoking or to endorse anti-smoking legislation...
rorschach
And you are universally adored.
No one can get much dimmer than you, dude.
Terry C, Unabashed Bush Hater
==================================
Except you.
When they start passing laws that tell me I can't smoke anywhere, including outside or my own house or car, then we'll have trouble.
I am beginning to think that this might be an optimistic viewpoint.
.
I'm a rara avis: an ex-smoker who refuses to proselytize against smoking or to endorse anti-smoking legislation...
EX-SMOKER PUKE!
windows/apple wars...
Shit, that's comparing apples and operating systems ...
I aint leavin' for a month or two dims.
dith - you better be posting from the wilderness or you have finally hit the wall and proven what a liar you are.
Terry C--I kinda liked the BushSmack at first, but my stomach started curdling at the continued sound effects...I would not make a good torturer, er, "professional interrogator."
Just wait until one them gets caught in another country, outside EU. Then, again, if BushBoy standards take hold, any nation.
Uh oh Terry C is stalking herself again
Trool pile on TerryC.
Month or two. You going to New Zealand, fuckwit?
Cause in a month or two, the mountains in this country will be covered with snow.
God you are just lame lame lame.
"We can't pick and choose when we enforce the law," Street said
Unless ofcourse it is immigration law. then we can pick and choose all day long so that the corporations can have their cheap precious mexican labor.
OK, Trool swarm, time for lunch.
I see my stalker is here.
Ho hum!
dith | 09.23.06 - 2:09 pm | #
Stop wearing out that mirror!
As Eddie Izzard puts it: There's no smoking in bars. Next there'll be no drinking and then no talking.
rorschach
God he's a sexy thing. I adore him almost as much as I adore you.
To paraphrase Mark Twain: If I can't smoke in heaven, I'm not going.
well I got some threads I need to follow out here in this city dims. I gots obligations. I gots a chica here dims. It wont close out that quick, but when it does, I'll be gone. And on the Yellowstone. Away from yer cities of perpetual rain, of crying lights, cities where the wounds never heal, cites without the songs of birds. F yer cities! F em..
And you are universally adored.
Tena | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:08 pm | #
Tell that to johnny!
And NTodd, for that matter.
Greenwald slaps Marty Peretz's new racist "blog" around...
dith - you better be posting from the wilderness or you have finally hit the wall and proven what a liar you are.
Tena
Isn't he supposed to be going to one of his weekend "rallys"?
dith | 09.23.06 - 2:12 pm | #
No, I'll join this conversation on the proviso that we stop bitching about people talking about wigs, dresses, bust sizes, penises, drugs, night clubs, and bloody Abba!
well I got some th--
Nobody's fucking interested and nobody fucking cares.
Atrios + Windows = Joementum
well I got some threads I need to follow out here in this city dims. I gots obligations. I gots a chica here dims. It wont close out that quick, but when it does, I'll be gone. And on the Yellowstone. Away from yer cities of perpetual rain, of crying lights, cities where the wounds never heal, cites without the songs of birds. F yer cities! F em..
dith | 09.23.06 - 2:12 pm | #
You are such a fucking idiot.
No smoking unless it's a joint.
Away from yer cities of perpetual rain, of crying lights, cities where the wounds never heal, cites without the songs of birds. F yer cities! F em..
I live in the boonies.
And you are universally adored.
Tena | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:08 pm | #
Tell that to johnny!
And NTodd, for that matter.
rorschach
He's mine! All mine!
dith has got to be clinically retarded
Since it is no longer posible to be a libertarian and a supporter of smoking in public, I cease to worry about the libertarians.
It's nice to be able to go back into restaurants here in NJ and be able both to breathe and avoid the dry cleaner afterwards. Also, since the people eating in restaurants will be able to taste the food (better), good cooks become more valuable.
The winners are the cooks, the losers are the dry cleaners (collateral winner: the atmosphere, due to reduction in CFCs), and the bars get a new clientele and don't tend to loose most of their old clients, since they just get up and go outside. (Having to do same also helps keep them sober, if the bartender and/or management are paying attention, so there probably a collateral reduction in DWI arrests and auto accidents.)
Nobody's fucking interested and nobody fucking cares.
"I care."
As Eddie Izzard puts it: There's no smoking in bars. Next there'll be no drinking and then no talking.
"Watch it, California. You're supposed to be the crazy state."
And remember kids - One Man Was President on 9/11/01 - and His Name WASN'T "Clinton"!
I cannot wait for the ban to become a nationwide thing. I hate that I cannot sit at a bar without breathing in the toxic smoke.
America's Least Wanted
I wonder if this will create a bunch of underground "Smoke-easies" like during Prohibition.
No, I'll join this conversation on the proviso that we stop bitching about people talking about wigs, dresses, bust sizes, penises, drugs, night clubs, and bloody Abba!
masculine_monica_nyc | 09.23.06 - 2:13 pm | #
Well then what's left to talk about?
Other than the mail-order bride and the ping-pong balls, I mean.
"I care."
Pssssssst... (sotto voce) she's your sister!
OT:tx repug hints at what 's going on in iran right now. along with the rumor that there are troops on the ground. i say october 17. bets?
We must continue to pursue peace through diplomacy, but we must not shrink from our responsibility through the option of strength. We must take advantage of internal resistance and change from within Iran to avert this path of mutual destruction. The policies and extremist views of Iran's religious mullahs are not representative of all Iranians. Many desire freedom and are willing to fight for it. I have met with them, and we should do everything we can to forward their cause. Now is the time for them to save their country, their society and their religion.
//www.statesman.com/opinion/content/editorial/
stories/09/23/23mccaul_edit.html
And remember kids - One Man Was President on 9/11/01 - and His Name WASN'T "Clinton"!
dave™©
To hear the wingnuts tell it, Chimpy had been president for "only" eight months on 9/11. I guess his training wheels were still on, and Clinton was stilll responsible for everything.
why do dims always try and ban smokin' and gamblin' and things like that? why cants ya just let people live?
The bars in Jersey don't seem to have lost any revenue banning smoking. After the initial shock wears off, the Philly bars will be fine.
gimmeabreak
The restaurant my daughter and I have Saturday dinner at has lost no business at all because of the ban.
The regulars still go there.
No smoking unless it's a joint.
BlakNo1 | 09.23.06 - 2:13 pm | #
Anti-bong bigot!!!
Street is getting a little uppity, ain't he? How dare he try to order his "betters" around!
you'll be glad when they start enforcing it
there was the same kind of whinin when the laws went into effect in Ca
it is a much better way to live
"I care."
NTodd
Pssssssst... (sotto voce) she's your sister!
dave™©
He doesn't care.
dith | 09.23.06 - 2:17 pm | #
Stop flexing your muscles, you big pile of budgie turd. I'm sure your mates will be much more impressed if you just go back to the pub and fuck a couple of pigs on the bar.
Greenwald slaps Marty Peretz's new racist "blog" around...
dave
Thanks for that. I can never get enough Marty-Peretz bashing, and Greenwald, as always, does a thorough job. The guy puts actual facts in his posts.
why do dims always try and ban smokin' and gamblin' and things like that?
We don't ban gamlin'. You do. And smoking kills people who just want to breathe.
Pssssssst... (sotto voce) she's your sister!
I'd still hit it. 'specially in Jedi.
why do dims always try and ban smokin' and gamblin' and things like that? why cants ya just let people live?
dith | 09.23.06 - 2:17 pm | #
You are such a fucking idiot.
I'd still hit it.
Good Lord! *choke*
why cants ya just let people live?
dith
I'd like to ask the same thing about fundies and wingers who would like to ban abortion, birth control, gay people's rights......
in washington state the dims banned internet gamlin' and any magazines or written material abouts it.
Nah, bongs, vaporizers, etc are fine too.
I'm a rara avis: an ex-smoker who refuses to proselytize against smoking or to endorse anti-smoking legislation...
rorschach
I'm one of those.
I'mm lissening to I-Tunes radio. Motherless Children by the Steve Miller Band. Cool.
I wonder if this will create a bunch of underground "Smoke-easies" like during Prohibition.
NTodd, CT's Next Mangina
You think they don't already exist?
I happen to know of 3 or four places on the north side of Austin, where everyone looks the otherway if you light up.
So is this thread the Atrios equivalent of a radio DJ putting on the "long" version of "In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida" and then going out to the parking lot to get a blow job from a teenage fan?
dith | 09.23.06 - 2:19 pm | #
Bernice has left her cake out in the rain!
Hey dith - looks just like a city, don't it?
You are so fucking lame. And a very bad liar.
I'm also an ex-smoker who has no real strong feelings about this one way or the other. I can see the point about restaurants, but bars?
In case anybody cares, my solution to the smoking issue has always been in restaurants and big bars, call them nightclubs, no smokin; small bars, call them taverns, smoking. That way older people, who started smoking decades ago and maybe picked it up while fighting in wars or working in factories, can still light up with their Budweiser. Seems like the least we could do.
Nah, bongs, vaporizers, etc are fine too.
BlakNo1 | 09.23.06 - 2:19 pm | #
I prefer to mainline the stems, myself. But I'm hardcore.
dont look like a city to me. looks like the set of City Slickers 3.
"You never took me to any football games."
dont look like a city to me. looks like the set of City Slickers 3.
dith | 09.23.06 - 2:23 pm | #
You are such a fucking idiot.
I always smoke after sex. But I've never actually caught on fire.
A message for those who smoke in the house with children present.
Fuck you. And die soon, please.
looks just like a city, don't it?
Who's that groovy hippie chick on the far right?
Fox-eh lay-duh!!!
Of course it should not be banned in bars.
I mean bars have some secrect smoke shield that protects the employees!!!!
As stated above, separate rooms would do the trick.
Building Contractors can't use abestos anymore can they?
Separate rooms or no.
Having been exposed to second hand smoke against my will for years, much of that time trapped inside a car in a wintry climate, I have nothing but contempt for the so-called rights of smokers.............
it's not about the smoker --it's about the people who work in the taverns etc.
it's workplace issue
dave™© | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:25 pm | #
what dave said.
off topic: I live in Munich and I was having a coffee outside of a cafe today. It's Oktoberfest and half the city is walking around in traditional Bavarian clothing - Lederhosen for the men, Dirndls for the ladies and you can imagine the scene.
An American guy beside me asked me: "Can you tell me when Oktoberfest starts?" I spit my coffee out, I thought it was so funny.
I mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year? Hilarious!
A message for those who smoke in the house with children present.
Fuck you. And die soon, please.
badnews
Maybe you can jump up my ass. What do you think about that?
But, Broder is an honorable man.
When Broder uttered that shit about Clinton trashing "our town", he surrendered any notion that he was honorable.
I mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year? Hilarious!
mimi
You mean they don't?
Who's that groovy hippie chick on the far right?
Woo hoo! Hubba hubba!
I mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year? Hilarious!
mimi
You mean it's not??
*changes vacation plans*
Maybe you can jump up my ass. What do you think about that?
Is this a sneak preview of the sequel to "Fantastic Voyage"?
I mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year? Hilarious!
mimi
Woo hoo! Hubba hubba!
Hey, man, go back to the frat, square...
Is this a sneak preview of the sequel to "Fantastic Voyage"?
dave™©
Via AP:
U.S. fatalities in war exceed those from Sept. 11
Military deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan reach 2,974
WASHINGTON - Now the death toll is 9/11 times two.
U.S. military deaths from Iraq and Afghanistan now surpass those of the most devastating terrorist attack in America’s history, the trigger for what came next.
The latest milestone for a country at war came Friday without commemoration. It came without the precision of knowing who was the 2,974th to die in conflict. The terrorist attacks killed 2,973 victims in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania
Yep, just another number. Keep diggin' that hole George, every new body makes us safer (if not safe).
Shit...
Hey, man, go back to the frat, square...
NARC!!
Hey, man, go back to the frat, square...
NARC!!
BlakNo1
"We'll make an example of this....hepcat!"
An American guy beside me asked me: "Can you tell me when Oktoberfest starts?" I spit my coffee out, I thought it was so funny.
I mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year? Hilarious!
mimi |
Those sneaky Germans. Who could have imagined starting Oktoberfest
in Oct er ah....September?
.
"You never took me to any football games."
watertiger | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:23 pm |
Now I have to go and watch Amelie again.
NARC!!
No, man, you're the narc! Check out those plaid pants!!!
When you want to make a point, repeating the text three times is good.
Mike
Works for Chimpy.
Who's that groovy hippie chick on the far right?
Ms. Tena has let her hair grow out. Wow. Looks great.
Funny, I didn't know she was so tiny.
I mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year?
mimi
Of course not. Everyone knows they don't wear Lederhosen on New Year's Eve.
No one knows if he's dead, the pukes just floating that one to take the heat off not nailing him sooner.
"You never took me to any football games."
watertiger
I remember reading a similar story about a guy, I think in Nashville. Turned out to be members of a local band that had gone out on tour.
Of course, now I'm thinking about Audrey Tautou.
Now I have to go and watch Amelie again.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.23.06 - 2:31 pm | #
Ew. I loathe that movie.
I mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year?
mimi
That's just like all the tourists who think that Bourbon Street is about tits and beads all year long. Rather pathetic, really.
Out here in B.C. the smoking ban went into effect about a dozen years ago. Just about the first place to honor the ban was Tim Horton's. What goes beter with coffee, what goes better with cigarettes? Well, there was nary a peep. I, myself ran a restaurant and welcomed the smoking ban. Didn't lose any business. The atmosphere was much cleaner. Smokers adapted well and the change became an accepted way of life for them. IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY!
Off to get lunch before UT-Iowa State game. Be back later.
Tena:
That's some right purty scenery behind you folks.
Gorgeous!
Smokers adapted well and the change became an accepted way of life for them. IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY!
Bobby St. Chomsky | 09.23.06 - 2:34 pm | #
Fuck adaptation! This is the US and we don't believe in heathen evolution down here. So kiss our smoky ass!
mean, did he think Munich was full of drunk people wearing Lederhosen every day of the year?
mimi
That's just like all the tourists who think that Bourbon Street is about tits and beads all year long. Rather pathetic, really.
rorschach |
The same kind of people who think all of Canada is French?
In a reasonable universe, polite smokers would go outside to smoke and polite non-smokers wouldn't try to make smokers feel bad.
On another topic, it turns out that carving one of those very intricate pumpkin designs is a bit more complicated than I imagined, even when you go to the crafts store and buy the little pumpkin carving kits with tiny saws and scrapers.
AO,
there's a post over at my crib with your name on it.
No one knows if he's dead, the pukes just floating that one to take the heat off not nailing him sooner.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
I keep wondering why they maintain he's in the same area he was 2 years ago. He could be in an apartment in Islamabad for all we know.
On another topic, it turns out that carving one of those very intricate pumpkin designs is a bit more complicated than I imagined, even when you go to the crafts store and buy the little pumpkin carving kits with tiny saws and scrapers.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
THAT can get very.....er....interesting.
The same kind of people who think all of Canada is French?
Terry C, Unabashed Bush Hater | 09.23.06 - 2:37 pm | #
Mais oui, Mlle.
On another topic, it turns out that carving one of those very intricate pumpkin designs is a bit more complicated than I imagined, even when you go to the crafts store and buy the little pumpkin carving kits with tiny saws and scrapers.
Oh, yeah. I'm lucky if I can finish two pumpkins in a night. And there's usually at least one section that has to be re-assembled using toothpicks...
On another topic, it turns out that carving one of those very intricate pumpkin designs is a bit more complicated than I imagined, even when you go to the crafts store and buy the little pumpkin carving kits with tiny saws and scrapers.
Hecate
Why don't you get Dick Cheney to come over and shoot your pumpkin in the face? That would be pretty scary, I think.
Aw, poor Rummy. Life interferes with his daily squash game . . . during which he routinely cheats.
Why did they build the castle so far from the train station?/whine
Having been exposed to second hand smoke against my will for years, much of that time trapped inside a car in a wintry climate, I have nothing but contempt for the so-called rights of smokers.............
Still Hostile Child
Oho - Mommy and Daddy issues.
I'd suggest you grow up. And to paraphrase Fran Liebowitz: smoking is cool, smoking is sexy, smoking is, as far as I'm concerned, the whole point of being an adult.
Fran said it - not me.
On another topic, it turns out that carving one of those very intricate pumpkin designs is a bit more complicated than I imagined, even when you go to the crafts store and buy the little pumpkin carving kits with tiny saws and scrapers.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
I have no skill at that... the most intricate pumpkin carvings I've ever seen, though, were at Ann Rice's Halloween party (I went as Drag-Queen Jesus). Very well done, they were.
Why don't you get Dick Cheney to come over and shoot your pumpkin in the face? That would be pretty scary, I think.
jac
You can carve the pumpkin to look like Snarly Dick.
Now THAT's scary!
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has written a sequel to his Rolling Stone article about vote-hacking, this time about the 2006 election.
On another topic, it turns out that carving one of those very intricate pumpkin designs is a bit more complicated than I imagined, even when you go to the crafts store and buy the little pumpkin carving kits with tiny saws and scrapers.
I've always had good luck with a boning knife (yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it). Especially the thin ones.
No, go ahead, light up. Mind if I fart?
I keep wondering why they maintain he's in the same area he was 2 years ago. He could be in an apartment in Islamabad for all we know.
Lumpenprolitariot
Not really - Peshawar's about as far as he could get, and he'd probably be ratted out there. The folks down in the Indus plains are nothing like the border tribes, which consider themselves part of Afghanistan, not Pakistan.
I quit smoking nine years ago (as of Nov 14 of this year at 11:23 PM, but who's counting?) I could cheerfully start again right now, but to date it's the only thing I've ever really succeeded in.
I fucking hate the Hallmarkization of breast cancer. I fucking hate it.
Smoking anything that doesn't get you high is a waste of time.
billy b. - It's pretty long, really. I didn't have a chance to get it cut before I left for the mountains. I'm getting it trimmed next week.
I'm 5'4.5" tall - not exactly tiny, but not exactly not, either, these days.
And yah, I don't weigh much.
You can carve the pumpkin to look like Snarly Dick.
already been done.
I have no skill at that... the most intricate pumpkin carvings I've ever seen, though, were at Ann Rice's Halloween party (I went as Drag-Queen Jesus). Very well done, they were.
rorschach |
I usually do a series of Edvard Munch 'Scream' pumpkins.
btw Pumpkins have a nice color.
.
Now I have to go and watch Amelie again.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.23.06 - 2:31 pm | #
Ew. I loathe that movie...
rorschach | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:34 pm |
Repent, you sinner!
I fucking hate the Hallmarkization of breast cancer. I fucking hate it.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
Hecate, I thought it was just me!
You can carve the pumpkin to look like Snarly Dick.
Now THAT's scary!
I did find a stencil that says "Dump Bush". I'm going to do several of those.
rory, I am so jealous.
No smoking in bars or restuarants in Massachusetts.
Hip Hip Hooray!
No more going out for a Guiness with friends and coming home smelling like an ashtray.
My friends, I love you all, but those who smoke, Dear God, you have no idea just how BAD cigarette smoke smells! It's truly nauseating to those of us who don't smoke.
And, forgive me for this, but you have no idea how badly YOU ALL STINK! Your clothes, your hair, your breath, your homes and cars, even your pets. Jesus Christ, but it's unbearable at times.
I watched my parents die of lung cancer. I, myself, have some permanent lung damage just from being in a house with two smokers for slightly less than 20 years. And God knows what damage I suffered in the womb, thanks to my mother smoking during pregnancy.
Please, if your health and the health of those around you (human and animal) means nothing to you, remember that each and every dollar you spend on cigarettes goes to companies that contribute TONS of your money to the GOP.
Yes, the carton of cigarettes you bought in 1999, helped elect Bush.
The carton of cigarettes you buy today, what GOP candidates will your money help elect in November?
You can carve the pumpkin to look like Snarly Dick.
already been done.
watertiger
(Runs screaming from room)
Bite me, badnews
watertiger | Homepage |
I guy has to be careful what he wishes around here.
Candy coated popcorn, peanuts and a prize.
I fucking hate the Hallmarkization of breast cancer. I fucking hate it.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed
My wife saw a "pink ribbon" on the back of a vehicle this week:
Save the Ta-Tas.
I think the smoking ban bill is too vague. Can we get McCain to help rewrite it?
Anonymous Coward :
You make many good points.
erratum
I = A
I guy has to be careful what he wishes around here.
And to paraphrase Fran Liebowitz--
Sorry, she's a fucking idiot.
The carton of cigarettes you buy today, what GOP candidates will your money help elect in November?
Anonymous Coward |
Yeah, the government tried to run that bullshit on me about marijuana, too. Said it was supporting terrorism to buy it.
Kindly jump up my ass.
I'm going back to the pumpkin carving. Back in a bit, Bats.
Voice of reason: Christy Hardin Smith at firedoglake.com:
I’m as disgusted as anyone else about the torture issue — hell, I’ve written about it a lot, along with all of the other "GOP spits on the Constitution" machinations of the Bush Administration, we’ve asked you guys to phone all over the place trying to inject some spine on the Dem side. But winning in November is the first step — after that, we start looking for better candidates and start building a better Dem coalition.
From the link above (the title is so great):
http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/...kick-some-butt/
I'm 5'4.5" tall - not exactly tiny, but not exactly not, either, these days.
And yah, I don't weigh much.
You are exactly my daughter's size. From the pic, about the same weight, also.
Speaking of no. 1 child, she called today and met a lobbyist for Hillary last night and got invited to a fund raiser at Hill's house next week. She met John Kerry in a restaurant this past week. That's probably not a big deal to folks that live in DC, but for local yokels like moi, that seems pretty cool.
The other day, we had a couple come in talk to my boss about a case.
He reeked of cigarettes. She smelled as though she BATHED in the perfume she uses.
I was actually gagging.
Sorry, she's a fucking idiot.
dave™©
Yeah.
I think she could probably lay you out in a battle of wits, with one hand tied behind her back.
I love the flexibility on some issues that gets demonstrated from time to time.
rory, I am so jealous.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:43 pm | #
It was quite an evening, I have to say. And all the more amusing because everyone there was decked out in elaborate, black vampire get-ups... and there I was wearing nothing but my make-up, my stigmata, and a white sheet.
At one point a couple of female vampires knelt down to worship me as the first of the Undead.
I was significantly... altered... at the time, too...
Anonymous Coward | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:44 pm | #
Yeah, condescension tends to be the ideal way to convince people that your way of thinking is correct. Well done.
2,700.
"It's a number."
/Pony Blow
Looking over the BuyBlue stats, about two-thirds of every dollar spent by anyone in the country "helped elect George W Bush".
, but for local yokels like moi, that seems pretty cool.
Oh hell, us Texans are the bastard step-children of the Democratic Party. Nobody comes down here.
I think all of that is incredibly cool.
Oh hell, us Texans are the bastard step-children of the Democratic Party
Yeah, but you guys had Ann Richards and you've still got Molly Ivins
Ever attend "Southern Decadence", rors?
Yeah, the government tried to run that bullshit on me about marijuana, too. Said it was supporting terrorism to buy it.
Kindly jump up my ass.
Tena
Tena:
Maybe if the turrists had all the joints they could smoke, they wouldn't want to hurt anybody.
Smokers help keep me out of bars.
I love living just a few blocks away from Elizabet Ney's house, I have to say. She's another Texas treasure.
We're gonna smoke him out of his hole and whup him.
The closest thing to smoking in an enclosed space is peeing in a public swimming pool.
i am a former tobaacco user.
there is no tobacco use in my house or my car, and i do not gladly frequent places where such use is tolerated.
as someone said, it is not an issue of the smoker poisoning her or himself; it is an issue of whether the people who work in that enviropnment should be required, as a term of their employment, to be exposed to those noxious fumes.
i was in attendance while both of my parents succumbed to tobacco-smoke induced COPD...
i wish smokers would have that experience.
by the way, i'm home, and healthy of heart once again.
i have a stent, now...
it wasn't bad, really. the worst was keeping my leg, wherein they inserted the catheter, imobile for 6-7 hours...
thanks for all y'alls' good wishes and thoughts, etc...
.
rorschach - well, I haven't just been talking out of my ass when I've made claims for Texas having great women. I truly feel that we do - I've met some of them.
New Mexico does, too. And certainly inasmuch as Dr. Barmpot lives there, I'll throw in Arizona.
I don't know what it is about the southwest, but there are some amazing women living here.
And to paraphrase Fran Liebowitz--
Didn't she die in a kiln explosion?
Woody!!
Woody! Glad to hear you're doing well.
Ever attend "Southern Decadence", rors?
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:52 pm | #
Oh yes indeed. Matter of fact, I was the bartender at the parade's origin site (MRB on St Philip) the year that Peaches (Zod) was in command. 1998, perhaps?
Glad to see you're home, WGG! Heal good and fast!
Well, nothing like a firm hand at the wheel: a law is a law.
DE now has bar folk hanging outside, draped over porch rails, checking out the occasional passerby like the old saloon days.
And inside, shite, it is heaven.
It almost ruined the governor who installed the law here, though.
Woody:
Nice to see ya, dude! 
Goddamn Woody!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot tell you how glad I am to see you!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I already said I'm used to smoking outside now - it doesn't bother me.
It's fine with me to make things nice for everyone. But I'll be damned if I'm going to take a lot of shit in general for smoking, as long as I'm not blowing it in someone's residence or car or face.
oh yeah, a law is a law unless you can sign it away like POTUS.
I don't know what it is about the southwest, but there are some amazing women living here.
Tena | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 2:55 pm | #
True that.
And I love the fact that Austin is the capital of Texas thanks to the actions of a brothel madam... Just fantastic!
Anyone who wants to is welcome to come on up and join me at 9200 ft. next summer and see who can keep up with whom.
This is the best news I’ve heard in a long, long time!
I hope Mayor Street and the City Council propose and pass legislation that if you’re not height/weight proportionate, and a city employee, you’ve got one month to get in shape or be fired. There should also be a law preventing fat women in stretch suits from leaving their homes. Also, men with combovers should be fined, have their heads shaved and jailed.
Now we can go after some of the other violations we’ve been neglecting all these years. I’m also all for a separate unit of the police force that would issue fashion citations. The nerve of some people wearing the things they do!
Woody, so happy to hear that all went well for you.
Be well!
I hope Mayor Street and the City Council propose and pass legislation that if you’re not height/weight proportionate, and a city employee, you’ve got one month to get in shape or be fired. There should also be a law preventing fat women in stretch suits from leaving their homes. Also, men with combovers should be fined, have their heads shaved and jailed.
Oddly, these are nothing like smoking.
randy, its not about smoking being unhealthy for the smoker, its about people who do not wish to smoke being forced in inhale other people's toxic carcinogenic smoke.
"Woody, my friend! I'm so pleased you are not dead!"
I think the combover prohibition should start with Congress.
This is true Ntodd. They're nothing like smoking, but those offenders are bad for the eyes.
I hope Mayor Street and the City Council propose and pass legislation that if you’re not height/weight proportionate, and a city employee, you’ve got one month to get in shape or be fired. There should also be a law preventing fat women in stretch suits from leaving their homes. Also, men with combovers should be fined, have their heads shaved and jailed.
Now we can go after some of the other violations we’ve been neglecting all these years. I’m also all for a separate unit of the police force that would issue fashion citations. The nerve of some people wearing the things they do!
Randy | 09.23.06 - 3:00 pm | #
Wow. Are you actively trying to miss the point, or is your irrelevance actually inadvertant?
To each their own, it's all unknown.
As for me, after smoking cigarettes for 16 years, my sense of smell and sense of taste miraculoulsy returned when I quit.
This is true Ntodd. They're nothing like smoking, but those offenders are bad for the eyes.
You offend my sight.
Randy | 09.23.06 - 3:00 pm |
(^.^) (-.-) (_ _) (^.^)
I bow in your general direction, sir.
Let's make people over a certain weight wear their body fat ratio numbers on their sleeves and have them picked up every time they order anything fried in a restaurant.
Smoke wars!
And it's 1-2-3, what are we fightin' for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Long as we lock up foreign old men!
(Now with pictures!)
i wish smokers would have that experience.
i've had that experience. twice.
here's the thing, nobody gets to live forever.
"sooner or later we're gonna get ya"
but i'm glad you got the heart thingy, and everthing is ok.
I understand your point too, Old Man. I also hope you understand mine about the social faux pas some people make every time they step out of their homes. It literally hurts my eyes (and I suspect I'm not alone in that) to see some of those people.
Sooner or later, love is gonna get ya
Sooner or later, love is gonna get ya
Jim
Just like death.
Or cancer.
Hecate, Brightly-Coiffed, thanks for linking to twisty's Crunch For The Cure post. I was having trouble getting the site to load the other day, and your post reminded me to go back. Some of the comments there are delectable.
Just like death.
Or cancer.
Death causes cancer.
Or cancer.
Rmj, Street Credentialed
Um, that's not inevitable. Love and death - probably are.
I also hope you understand mine about the social faux pas some people make every time they step out of their homes.
no not really, looking at fat/ugly peope dien't actually hurt you or make you fat/ugly. Its not like they're forcing their high cholesterol on others around them.
No, I didn't miss the point rorschach. Everybody's got an opinion as well as an asshole. Last I checked, anyone was allowed to comment here, regardless whether the current clique voted to allow it.
Yeah, the government tried to run that bullshit on me about marijuana, too. Said it was supporting terrorism to buy it.
Kindly jump up my ass.
Tena
Tena:
Maybe if the turrists had all the joints they could smoke, they wouldn't want to hurt anybody.
Terry C, Unabashed Bush Hater | 09.23.06 - 2:52 pm | #
*word*
Um, that's not inevitable. Love and death - probably are.
Actually, if you live long enough, it probably is inevitable...
New Mexico does, too. And certainly inasmuch as Dr. Barmpot lives there, I'll throw in Arizona.
I don't know what it is about the southwest, but there are some amazing women living here.
Tena
In the the early days of westward expansion women were enticed to move west with the abilty to vote in state elections. Poltically active women could be more influential in the west. I think it started the tradition.
Tena:
Maybe if the turrists had all the joints they could smoke, they wouldn't want to hurt anybody.
Terry C, Unabashed Bush Hater | 09.23.06 - 2:52 pm | #
*word*
Nancy Willing
You know, y'all are going to hate me for this but I think we need to go drop a pound right in Chimpy's lap.
Mellow that little cocksucker right out.
This is true Ntodd. They're nothing like smoking, but those offenders are bad for the eyes.
Randy | 09.23.06 - 3:02 pm
You could always gouge out your eyes.
no not really, looking at fat/ugly peope dien't actually hurt you or make you fat/ugly. Its not like they're forcing their high cholesterol on others around them.
The Old Man From Scene 24
They could explode!
Good to see your entry, Woody--good health.
From the link on your blog to Gore Vidal:
...on his first trip to New Orleans, he [Bush] promised to restore the drowned city. But, as usual, nothing was done. Then this Aug. 29 he was back in town to reassure high school students: "Ive come back to New Orleans to tell you the words that I spoke on Jackson Square are just as true today as they were then." And so of course they were! Meanwhile, one hopes that some noble humanitarian will finally shut the doors of the temple of Janus, which have not been shut since December of 1941 when we went from one war to another and another without a pause or thought.
I have no problem with smoking bans.
I will admit I should've just come out directly and said "fat" people should have to pay twice as much for their insurance since their ailments are indirectly and partly the cause of my health insurance premiums going up.
There's NO excuse for combovers and the offenders should have to undergo forced electrolysis on their scalps so they can't possible offend again.
No, I didn't miss the point rorschach. Everybody's got an opinion as well as an asshole. Last I checked, anyone was allowed to comment here, regardless whether the current clique voted to allow it.
Oh, here we go: STOP OPPRESSING ME, MOTHERFUCKER! Now we can debate "process" and "cliques". That's more fun than smoking.
But you did miss the point. It's not opinion that second hand smoke is dangerous. It's not opinion that you are not actually harmed by looking at ugly people, you junebug-raping snotburger.
I will admit I should've just come out directly and said "fat" people should have to pay twice as much for their insurance since their ailments are indirectly and partly the cause of my health insurance premiums going up.
And that has to do with smoking bans how?
No, I don't feel "oppressed." It just that I've noticed the tendency of a few to attack like killer bees when the presence of a troll is perceived by one.
Sooner or later, love is gonna get ya
Jim | 09.23.06 - 3:05 pm
Agh! Now I have The Grass Roots going through my head:
Sooner Or Later
( The Grass Roots )
Sooner or later, love is gonna get ya
Sooner or later, girl, you've got to give in
Sooner or later, love is gonna let ya
Sooner or later, love is gonna win
Its just a matter of time
Before you make up your mind
To give all that love that you've been hiding
Its just a question of when
I've told you time and again
I'll get all the love you've been denying
People always resort to name-calling sooner or later. I suppose that's why you're always up for "Best Commenter" on the Wampum board, right NTodd?
Hitler was a rabid anti-smoker. Franco? He didn't smoke either.
two new sets of sheets
it was actually a reference to the old White Owl cigar commercial.
maybe i got it wrong.
I never tried to imply there was a connection between smoking bans and high health premiums. Just saying, now that we finally are getting smoking bans it's time to start reigning in the other offenders.
I go more to bars now there's no smoking. I hated coming home w/ that nasty odor still attached to my clothes for days afterwards.
And I was a smoker for ten years, but stopped in 1981.
No, I didn't miss the point rorschach. Everybody's got an opinion as well as an asshole. Last I checked, anyone was allowed to comment here, regardless whether the current clique voted to allow it.
Randy | 09.23.06 - 3:09 pm | #
A tad defensive, no?
Last I checked, no one had tried to silence you, as you seem to feel...
I smoke and use a Mac, and I say fuck everyone who doesn't smoke or use a Mac. Also, I'm a liberal who appreciates all views. Posted from a cafe in Brooklyn where I am drinking, not smoking (grrrrr) and using a Mac.
Nope, rorschach. Not defensive at all here. Atrios said "Fight away!" and I left a few comments. Whether or not anyone wants to call me names for having an opinion is their business. Trust me, I haven't lost any sleep in the four+ years I've been reading and commenting on this blog. I'm sure I'm not bothered one way or the other by anyone here "trying to silence me"
Something else I've noticed in those years is that cliques come and go in these comments all the time. I've not lost any sleep worrying that I wouldn't be included in the "Heathers" club, either.
i, an ex-smoker (4 packs a day, i was serious about it) actually think a smoking ban in bars is a stupid idea.
i'm all for no smoking in restaurants, it certainly befouls the air of those trying to enjoy thier food, and does destroy the pallate experience, if i can mispell that word and still keep on point.
but my contention is, nobody goes to a bar for health reasons, and if you're going to let people drink, let them smoke, too.
as to the idea that the poor bartender and waitresses must breathe the foul air, i am unsympathetic to draconian measures.
i say if that bothers you, go to school, learn a trade, get a real f*cking job that you don't have to breathe bad air for. bartending & wait-staff in bars are, to me, temp jobs on your way to something real, and if you can't get past that, you've got bigger problems than second hand smoke.
i do, however, endorse smoking bans for indoor public buildings and restaurants. not so much outdoor.
"Do you mind if I smoke? No, do you mind if I fart? It's one of my habits." - Steve Martin
Sounds more like a revenue stream to me. No wonder most business owners lean Libertarian.
Yeah, cool. Next, let's fine everybody who eats grease drippin' french fries $1,000. Obesity makes people sick and they go to the hospital and can't pay there bills and that costs taxpayers money.
Skinny rules!
no not really, looking at fat/ugly peope dien't actually hurt you or make you fat/ugly. Its not like they're forcing their high cholesterol on others around them.
The Old Man From Scene 24
They could explode!
Tena | Homepage | 09.23.06 - 3:12 pm | #
are you implying that there are fat/pretty peolpe out there..horrors.
"Oh, I remember, I'm radioactive!"
In honor of "mind if I fart?"
As musician who has to work in bars, I view this as a worker safety issue. I don't smoke, yet I have to go home night after night with my hair, skin, and clothes saturated in cigarette smoke. God knows what it's doing to my lungs. I pray that smoking in bars and restaurants will be made illegal here in Georgia so I can stop worrying about dying of lung cancer.
err, I recently went to a fairgrounds that prohibited smokin anywhere within the grounds. So I sat on a bench with a cup of coffee, which was also banned unless you brought your own in a thermos, and wished I could have a smoke along with that cup of coffee and wondered how long it would be that participants in the fair would be banished if they actually drank coffee, and as I sat there, and watched the parade of fatness-- deplobale obesity displayed prominently --teenagers-- fat teenagers parading around as if their fatness was the norm and proud of it. Excuse me--but being fat is now accepted as the healthy norm in youngsters, but smoking will kill them? Heh--
Hmmm...can we ban fat people from public places? Seeing fat people damages my sex drive. If I don't have sex, then I won't have an after-sex cigarette...
The government has better things to do than to be my mommy.
My city (Madison) enacted a smoking ban the year after they forced bars to install expensive smoke-eaters. It is pretty nice to have non-smoky bars, but they went too far when they made it illegal to have separate rooms for smoking guests and when they forgot to make exemptions for cigar and hookah bars.
Apparently, having separate rooms in gay bars and fetish clubs for fucking was more sanitary. (Note: I think that the rooms for fucking should be legal.)
www.whyquit.com
Bill, free and healing for 4 1/2 years. This is possible!
Porta Bella,
I work in bars, and when people smoke, their smoke gets into MY lungs. When there are fat people in the bar, their food doesn't get into my stomach and their fat doesn't find its way into my cells. Surely you can understand this distinction. If someone wants to overeat, that affects their own health. When someone smokes in a bar, it affects mine as well. The analogy between smoking and fat people is profoundly flawed.
I think bars are wonderful places to go where we can smoke and drink and makes passes at attractive passerbys and do socially dubious things. The fact that we can't smoke, and I don't smoke, makes it more and more sound like the SS is marching towards us. I think it stinks and I don't care if it bothers somebody or not. They should leave, fast. We've got the thought police, the smoking police, the fat police, the snoopers on the telephone and email and what it is all about is that some people really get jazzed when they can pretend they are better than somebody else.
Rachel, you make excellent points. In my own way all my earlier comments were meant to express similar sentiments, but I've found through the years that irony and subtlety are lost on some of the crowd who post here. More often than not, it's the "know-it-alls" who don't get it and I suspect in a vocal environment, they would be the ones talking the most just to hear themselves. Gotta love'em. Or.not.
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