I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
FUCK BUSH!!!!
Hiatt can kiss my fucking ass@
Felix Jr. was never circumsized, and now he has to get that done.
Ouch!
Who would Jesus torture?
Wow, the Post really is the new WSJ, isn't it?
Fred Hiatt is exactly what WaPo deserves.
im hurling after reading that endorsement.
Who would Jesus torture?
Indeed!
Where's Lou Grant when we need him?
And where's Jimmy Olson?
Just Say NO to Republican Joe!
I love the line that says by voting for Joe means no gridlock. Riiiiiight.
Washington Post, Washington Times -- it's getting hard to tell the difference.
Oh, god. I'm afraid to go look.
Who would Jesus torture?
Most likely Fred Hiatt...
Does that count as wanker for Saturday or Sunday?
Okay, fucking unbelievable.
Its the DC pundit class.
They almost can be ignored.
It's just another bit of evidence on the demise of democracy. Democracy doesn't mean voters having any power anymore. If it ever did.
There's a wanker on the roof. Or sheets.
Echidne of the snakes
Your comment below made me laugh. The visual....
um..."Hurdling"....???
Atrios needs some sleep.
What dog food does an Imam feed his dog?
I took it to mean he was leaping, as in jumping a hurdle. But "hurtle" was my first thought, followed closely by "hurling" after I read the link.
11:59 PM - wanker of Saturday.
Washington Post, Washington Times -- it's getting hard to tell the difference.
hey
i suggest the catchall, Foxington News- fear and balanced...
TALLAHASSEE - Danny Rolling, the notorious serial killer who murdered five college students and plunged the town of Gainesville into a frenzy of fear 16 years ago, will be executed next month, Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamihe...ld/
15590187.htm
Took way too long, but good fucking riddance.
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it is an israeli-fascist orientation.
the wapo favors the israelis killing more wogs. and especially loves the usa doing it for them.
I thought hurling too.
Apparently Grover Norquist has convinced Mr. Hiatt that bipartisanship as date rape is good for America, and that "no sap" Lieberman is just the man to explain these events to us in a civil and serious way.
Its highly unlikely an Imam, especially the Twelvth, would have a dog. Probably got a sword coming out of his mouth or sumpthin
I took it to mean he was leaping, as in jumping a hurdle. But "hurtle" was my first thought, followed closely by "hurling" after I read the link.
wtfwjd?
I suspect "hurling" would win in a straight-up vote. 
How people like Hiatt manage to tie their intellects and consciences (assuming they have either/both) in knots like these almost make me admire them.
Almost.
how can a republican-backed leiberloser be better for the democratic party?
OT - Did you ever realize that analyzing Bush's weekly radio speeches for lies is like shooting fish in a barrel?
Took way too long, but good fucking riddance.
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QuentinCompson | Homepage | 09.24.06 - 12:24 am | #
Except for the fact that the death penalty is barbaric and evil, sure.
Not Fred Hiatt!
I cannot believe it!
Took way too long, but good fucking riddance
Shouldn't it be Jeb?
I haven't read the story Atrios linked to.
Should I
(a) Take my leave of all you vituperative foul-mouthed bloggers on the Left for a few minutes to go read it or
(b) pontificate passionately anyway?
YOU make the call!!!!
Its highly unlikely an Imam, especially the Twelvth, would have a dog. Probably got a sword coming out of his mouth or sumpthin
Iams. Get it?
or, maybe the Foxington Post-Times... I forgot about 9/11.
Took way too long, but good fucking riddance.
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QuentinCompson
QC, I'm not sure where I stand on the capital punishment issue. My dad, gone 14 yrs ago, used to say that "some people need killing."
Having lived 6 long yrs under this maladministration, I can see his point, now, though I argued against it all our days together.
I look, however, at how few countries retain executions and wonder why we still do this when so many others do not.
I thought hurling too.
I love curling! Oh, wait...
Wow, WOTD at 11:59 PM
You have to wank way before dawn to be declared the Wanker of the day these days.
Heh. Did Atrios change the time stamp on this post to get Hiatt in by a minute?
When is this Great Republican Resurgence that will erase a year long ten point gap going to take place?
WaPo
Sucko
Doh!
I'm glad QuentinCompson likes killing people so much. So the rest of us dont have to?
(b) pontificate passionately anyway?
YOU make the call!!!!
steve simels |
I choose (b) !!
Gomez, I though you were going for Al Po.
Take care sweet bats, time to see if some nice ladies are afoot!
Locally of course, present company including a paragon of finery on that account.
Hopefully I'll see yall sooner than later.
Send GWPDA a kiss from me if she shows up.
.
YOU make the call!!!!
b, followed by a, followed by a repeat of b.
WOTD at 11:59 PM.
It almost went to the girl with the biggest tits.
well, by my clock it was 11:58 but blogger had the timestamp at 12:04, so I shifted it.
in my defense my cable box also had 11:58, so I think blogger's a bit ahead.
Hiatt is such a ridiculous wanker.
"Maliki and Al Sadr Punk America
by
Larry C Johnson
I will say it simply--the Iraqi Government of Prime Minister Maliki is taking part in an information operation to help Republicans in the upcoming election. The evidence? How about the repeated claims that "we have killed or captured" the number two in Iraq? (And no, my reference to "number two" is not a euphemism for defecation.) I refer instead to the steady drumbeat of breathless anouncements about the "latest" capture of a senior Al Qaeda operative in Iraq. The frequency of these claims is not a simple consequence of stepped up U.S. and Iraqi military operations. It is a deliberate effort to manipulate U.S. public opinion into believing real progress is being made in Iraq because the truth--that we're losing the ground war in Iraq--is unpalatable grist for the November elections."
I'm sure there will be no shortage of Sunday wankers.
Via Kos, they apparently still know how to do journalism in Montana...
how can a republican-backed leiberloser be better for the democratic party?
her eyes
This is why we need the news analysts. Otherwise we might mistakenly think Bush's widespread unpopularity is good for Democrats. Likewise, we need our betters to inform us Lieberwhore refusing to abide by the democratic decision of Democrats is good for Democrats otherwise we would imagine it was bad.
ror...have you been drinking liberal (!!) amounts of coffee??? Isn't it really late where you are, dear?
I guess it's time to brush off the old "Don't Change Horsemen Mid-Apocalypse" bumperstickers.
um, not that there's anything wrong w/staying up late.
Cause ya'know, if WOTD isn't run by the rules, this blog is going to hell. Wait until the Brendan Nyhans of the world expose the scandal!
in my defense my cable box also had 11:58, so I think blogger's a bit ahead.
Heck, haloscan and blogger get together sometimes for drinks and see who can fuck up timestamps worse.
When you're stake out the high moral ground of being for the culture of life, what you want to do is kill as many criminals as possible. If you have an oopsy along the way, as a decider you simply tell your wife not to read the headline about it before you go to bed. Its all very easy and bloodless.
ProviderUNE™IveGotNtodd'sPants
g'night
(do you REALLY have his pants??)
Propoganda only becomes truth if you allow it. If you fear it, the propogandists score extra points.
The MSM is almost straight propoganda, especially with November approaching. The Christian Science Monitor is now about the closest thing there is to fair and balanced reporting.
The WSJ used to be able to call itself unbiased, but hasn't been so for years.
Hiatt is the grand wizard of wankerness.
I was more against the death penalty when I was younger, but now I can see it in some circumstances, and Rollins is one of those.
And, yes, if Jeb Bush tortured, mutilated and murdered five people, leaving a severed head on a shelf - yes, fry his ass. I wish they still used Old Sparky instead of the injected dope, because I think Danny boy would fear that more, and maybe wet his pants on the way down the hall in mortal fear, maybe a fraction of what he caused in his victims.
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When is this Great Republican Resurgence that will erase a year long ten point gap going to take place?
Gomez
Sometime after the closing of the polls and before the tallying of the votes...
I guess it's time to brush off the old "Don't Change Horsemen Mid-Apocalypse" bumperstickers.
Uncle Smokes
what was that oldie but rudie..."don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw..." ??
Who's on the morning wankfests Sunday?
Hiatt doesn't want to lose a cocktail party buddy.
Torture McCain in 08: He can take and he can dole it out!
Torture McCain in 08: He can take and he can dole it out!
Uncle Smokes:
Got your CD-- many thanks!!!
BTW -- somewhere, the ghost of Grieg is smiling big time.
Big Dog on MTP, Special 1 PM time.
I guess it's time to brush off the old "Don't Change Horsemen Mid-Apocalypse" bumperstickers.
Or like they said in '72: "Don't Change Dicks in the Middle of a Screw!"
Torture McCain in 08: He can take and he can dole it out!
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Liddy or Bob?
Don't change rubbers in the middle of a fuck?
Ooops... Sarah beat me to it!
The Washington pundit class just seem to be going through the motions of wankery lately. OK whores, let's keep that energy level up!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
GOP: We Do Torture Right.
Mrs. I: Did you march from Tigert on Thursday?
How'd the review go?
Don't change rubbers in the middle of a fuck?
Gomez | 09.24.06 - 12:38 am |
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Gomez | 09.24.06 - 12:39 am
Um...that was fast...
Idiots. I just gave $$$ to Lamont.
When is this Great Republican Resurgence that will erase a year long ten point gap going to take place?
Gomez
Sometime after the closing of the polls and before the tallying of the votes...
George Johnston
This is one possible scenario: Very nasty smear-ads just a few days before the election date so that there is no time to poll about their impact. Then when the astonishing results are counted there is an obvious explanation. Worked in 2002, perhaps.
I should really go to bed. Wake me up when Fred Hiatt is no longer a wanker of this or any day.
BTW, the Agonist also has that "Dear Senator" torture postcard.
Modesty forbids mentioning where they got it...!
Forgive me...I date myself...
Al-Sadr's Army is here to stay
Al-Sadr's
army is on their way
And I would rather be anywhere else
But here today
There was a checkpoint charlie
He didn't crack a smile
But it's no laughing party
When you've been on the murder mile
All it takes is one itchy trigger
One more widow one less white nigger
Olivers Army is here to stay
Olivers army is on their way
And I would rather be anywhere else
But here today
TALLAHASSEE - Danny Rolling, the notorious serial killer who murdered five college students and plunged the town of Gainesville into a frenzy of fear 16 years ago, will be executed next month, Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday.
Well, what I want to know is when they're going to round up the serial killers known as the Crawford Wanker, Faceshot Dick, and Reichsfeldmarschall von Rumsfuck?
Um...that was fast...
ellroon
"Was it good for...WT???!!"
"the critical question facing voters in November, as opposed to party leaders now, is who would make the better senator -- which is why we welcome Mr. Lieberman's decision to remain in the race. He would be, by far, the better choice for the people of Connecticut."
Despite what democratic voters in CT prefer and in rejection of the party's electoral established process. The Washington Post editorial board think it is stickin' it to the man, when it's really just taking that short ride to Washington Times territory.
Well, what I want to know is when they're going to round up the serial killers known as the Crawford Wanker, Faceshot Dick, and Reichsfeldmarschall von Rumsfuck?
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Ooo! Saw that movie. The ending sucked.
Hiatt is the wanker of the month, the year, the... inquisition.
No one expects the _______ inquisition.
I wish they still used Old Sparky instead of the injected dope, because I think Danny boy would fear that more, and maybe wet his pants on the way down the hall in mortal fear, maybe a fraction of what he caused in his victims.
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QuentinCompson
QC, I hear you. I appeal to my better self, but I have a certain hard-wire to not turn the other cheek, to not forgive someone who would hurt any in my "tribe".
I prefer to think that I would want to make a quick, clean kill, but....I suspect I would have to arm-wrestle my enraged self first.
It's why, though, the laws of civilisation need to be established to keep that side of me - and that side of others like me - under firm control.
It's like the torture this country seems to be allowing. That we are putting the decision of what constitutes torture into the hands of a miscreant like GW Bush is just simply beyond belief. He's one sick puppy.
I'm probably a sick puppy, too, when I think about what I would want to do to someone who harmed my grandchildren. But I welcome the restraints of the law that keep me from succumbing.
GWB, hell, he's got no fucking limits.
The GOP: We know just the right level of pinchiness to use while attaching to electrodes to the detainee's nads.
sdf
the review seeemed to go well. we get the report in a few weeks.
I missed the march, I was out sick t-th this week, just getting over it. went over to a pals house for the Gator game, great to get out.
how's it with you? going to the meeting Thursday night with the Dean?
Felix Jr. was never circumsized, and now he has to get that done.
Ouch!
The doctor is the real dick. Let me guess, he's Jewish. Circumcision is evil. Tell Jr. to go to Europe, they'll treat the problem instead of hacking his sex off.
dave™© -- That is a great piece of journalism -- well, not great but great to see it done the way it's supposed to be done. I'm old. I can remember when most newspaper writing on controversial subjects was like that.
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For people going to the chair they should force them to be organ donors. Detox them from whatever behaviorals they are on, by IV flush for a while, and have their organs to saving other's lives.
That would be true justice.
Man, I'm slow.
I got link'd by Pandagon a few days back.
(well, just for my headline)
BTW -- somewhere, the ghost of Grieg is smiling big time.
steve simels
I looked up info on the tune, and it seems that Grieg despised "In the Hall of the Mountain King."
So perhaps his ghost is thinking, "What's with the electronics and echoes and crap. You've ruined that song, and I thank you for that!"
This is one possible scenario: Very nasty smear-ads just a few days before the election date so that there is no time to poll about their impact. Then when the astonishing results are counted there is an obvious explanation. Worked in 2002, perhaps.
Echidne of the snakes
Exactly, it will be "explained." After all, we can't have Americans go Ukranian after suspicious election results...
the critical question facing voters in November, as opposed to party leaders now, is who would make the better senator -- which is why we welcome Mr. Lieberman's decision to remain in the race. He would be, by far, the better choice for the people of Connecticut."
let's poll the families of Connecticut's National Guardsmen or the middle-class folks facing bankruptcy, or the seniors on social security... just how much is a republican reach around worth?
I'm probably a sick puppy, too, when I think about what I would want to do to someone who harmed my grandchildren. But I welcome the restraints of the law that keep me from succumbing. - Sarah Deere
Way I look at it, Bush Republicans gang rape my daughter daily.
Sarah, your opinions are always welcome. Always. Glad to see you here.
I wish they still used Old Sparky instead of the injected dope
For people going to the chair they should force them to be organ donors.
Slippery slope and an unreliable justice system in this country would mean you'd simply be handing over means of torture and ownership of one's body to the state.
Has anyone seen "Shoes by Kelly" on YouTube? If you haven't, it's hilarious.
Child abuse
http://www.roncobbdesigns.com/
in...20790d35982d694
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I was more against the death penalty when I was younger, but now I can see it in some circumstances
A weapon as blunt as death can't be used to make such fine distinctions over questions of life. I am against the death penalty in every instance.
That exists already...
Slippery slope and an unreliable justice system in this country would mean you'd simply be handing over means of torture and ownership of one's body to the state.
masculine_monica_nyc |
Rummy has caused the death of thousands, was once a pal of Saddam's, but he's lovable because he plays a mean game of squash.
let's poll the families of Connecticut's National Guardsmen or the middle-class folks facing bankruptcy, or the seniors on social security... just how much is a republican reach around worth?
focus
That's what was wrong with the Democratic primary in CT! They forgot the purple ink!
Sarah--my sentiments exactly.
WTF? Are the WaPo editorial staff and news division even in the same effing building? The same planet?
WTF? Are the WaPo editorial staff and news division even in the same effing building? The same planet?
Let's ask the ombudsperson.
Bo, I feel that they have robbed my daughter, granddaughter and SIL, as you say, daily.
Uncle Smokes:
I just liked the fact that Mountain King worked so well with the political context of the CD.
I cling, perhaps naively, to the belief that all great classical composers (except that anti-semite bastid Dick Wagner) were good liberals.
WTF? Are the WaPo editorial staff and news division even in the same effing building? The same planet? - gimmeabreak
Different tubes of glue.
The size of the Federal Government exploded under Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson, preparing the soil for totalitarianism.
Never undersestimate their vindictiveness.http://today.reuters.com/news/
articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-09-
24T031153Z_01_N23213694_RTRUKOC_0_US-VENEZUELA-
USA-DETENTION.xml&archived=False
Different tubes of glue.
Make sure you know the difference between K-Y and K-Lo.
I'm surprised the rest of the sane editorial staff doesn't shove him down an elevator chute.
Ah the link didn't work...Venezuelan Foreign Minister detained at New York Aiport.
The size of the Federal Government exploded ... preparing the soil for totalitarianism.
Ah, the Reagan years.
Does anyone disagree that the death penalty should apply to jack?
Chavez was right, creosote and sulphur, and priapic episodes that find their release on Crawford ranch animals.
Make sure you know the difference between K-Y and K-Lo.
sounds like a difference without a distinction.
On c-span2/BookTV now
Mission Rejected: U.S. Soldiers Who Say No to Iraq
Peter Laufer
Description: At Village Books in Bellingham, Washington, Peter Laufer recounts the stories of soldiers who are opposed to the war in Iraq. During the discussion, he reads excerpts from his book, "Mission Rejected: U.S. Soldiers Who Say No to Iraq." He argues that there are many troops who are against the Iraq War and are serving out of fear. Many others, he says, have chosen to become war resisters and refuse to fight in Iraq.
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The size of the Federal Government exploded under Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson, preparing the soil for totalitarianism.
mick | 09.24.06 - 12:51 am | #
jack...buddy!!!!
How've you been? Damn, we've missed your lapidary prose style and steel-trap insights!!!!!
his is one possible scenario: Very nasty smear-ads just a few days before the election date so that there is no time to poll about their impact. Then when the astonishing results are counted there is an obvious explanation. Worked in 2002, perhaps.
Echidne of the snakes
Yep. There will be all sorts of inflammatory tactics that combined will be used to rationalize and discourage challenging results.
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As long as aggressively seeking the death penalty provides political windfall within a justice system that railroads those without money, the death penalty remains suspect.
Moreover, the bloodlust in this country is strong. It's as if we need to sacrifice a few every once in a while to satisfy burning hatred of The Other, the unknown evil, the creeping fear, the dread of being out of control of one's own destiny.
We are not as civilized as we like to convince each other we are.
The gods still demand blood, and we provide.
I've noticed that Doctor Phil and that Psychic guy on Fox go out of their way to say they 'support' the troops. What does this cowardly trope mean. I demand that all fucking Amerikans explain themselves when they cop out with this phrase.
A weapon as blunt as death can't be used to make such fine distinctions over questions of life. I am against the death penalty in every instance.
masculine_monica_nyc
there was a story recently here in cal, where an owner of a pitbull was prohibited from having these types of dogs; of course he continued and his new pits mauled a child, almost to death... (alot here succeed)however, killing this particular owner woul be in no way different than killing the dogs...
Saw a bumpersticker at DU tonight.
Dear Troops: Wish You Were Here
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WP suck up article by Dan "Licking the Administration's" Balz:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6092301077.html
This can only be good news for the GOP, Mort.
Ack, Gomez, they have started the story trajectory of which Echidne spoke.
Frank Rich on Russert's CNBC show now.
That is a great piece of journalism -- well, not great but great to see it done the way it's supposed to be done.
Sad that what used to be considered merely competent is now considered so extraordinary...
This can only be good news for the GOP, Mort.
Rove's a genius!
I'm worried, people...
The size of the Federal Government exploded under Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson, preparing the soil for totalitarianism.
mick | 09.24.06 - 12:51 am | #
jack...buddy!!!!
jack? ... really, how is school going dude, any dates yet?
Scrambled brains, a screaming back, and the bed's not made up.
Good night, Mrs. Calabash, where ever you are.
The funniest line in the Balz WAPO
piece:
"A combination of good luck -- in the form of a sharp decline in gasoline prices -- "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
The funniest line in the Balz WAPO
piece...
No fucking shit, dude... no fucking shit!
I've noticed that Doctor Phil and that Psychic guy on Fox go out of their way to say they 'support' the troops. What does this cowardly trope mean. I demand that all fucking Amerikans explain themselves when they cop out with this phrase.
It means bumper stickers and not letting your own children enlist, pretty much. And it means demanding lower taxes when it's time to take care of the veterans without legs or arms or with shattered minds.
"A combination of good luck -- in the form of a sharp decline in gasoline prices -- "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
steve simels | 09.24.06 - 1:09 am | #
yeah that's a good one
It has a different spin on the situation, but here is a BBC article on the the Venezuelan minister being detained at an airport.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/
5374954.stm
Among those voting with Tester to kill the bill were such current and former Republican stalwarts as Senate President Tom Beck of Deer Lodge, Bill Crismore of Libby, Bob DePratu of Whitefish, Bill Glaser of Huntley, Lorents Grosfield of Big Timber, Don Hargrove of Belgrade, Royal Johnson of Billings, Walt McNutt of Sidney, Bill Tash of Dillon and Tom Zook of Miles City.
Asked whether Republican senators who voted with Tester also had failed to protect children from sexual predators, Chuck Denowh, executive director of the state Republican Party, said, "From our perspective, this is just about Jon Tester."
We do what we can.
I cling, perhaps naively, to the belief that all great classical composers (except that anti-semite bastid Dick Wagner) were good liberals.
steve simels
I understand Beethoven certainly railed against aristocracy and felt betrayed when Napoleon declared himself emporer.
The Romantic movement, if I remember correctly, represented a challenge to the notion of "a place for everything and everything in its place." They saw the world not as mechanistic order, but glorious chaos of passions and horrors. Such notions were revolutionary and dangerous to existing power structures.
Then again, a system in which a composer has to rely on a weathy benefactor to survive could certainly put a damper on too much politcking.
As for Wagner, he made a living on the "sucker born every minute principle." That such stirring music could come from such a thoroughly rotten, hateful man is a lesson in celebrity: The art is not necessarily the artist.
To put it cryptically, consider the usual remark upon meeting a star: "He looks much shorter in real life."
"A combination of good luck -- in the form of a sharp decline in gasoline prices -- "
I've tried to find good economic articles on this and I have failed. In general when prices fall this much there is either some obvious explanation of why supply is increasing or why demand is dropping or both. But in this case the explanations are so tiny that I can't see how they could have caused such a big drop in the prices.
Add to that the fact that the oil industry is fairly openly oligopolistic and price fixing becomes a real possibility.
Also, diesel has not fallen. I'm not sure why not.
Way I look at it, Bush Republicans gang rape my daughter daily.
bo, vfmb(c)ol
yep. And you and me, as well.
JT, not being from Montana, I can't get the joke. Please fill us in...
and, yes, if we would kill, we should do it ourselves, not make the state do it for us.
Which is why we should not kill.
Makes me understand vegetarians, and I ain't joking.
...the veterans without legs or arms or with shattered minds.
Those whining leftist parasites. Why do they hate America?
Ok...on that note, off to the arms of
Morpheus.
Or morphine, if I could get some.
Catch you guys on the flipper...
"A combination of good luck -- in the form of a sharp decline in gasoline prices -- "
This has got to be good news for Republicans, Wolf...
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRPHINE
JT, not being from Montana, I can't get the joke. Please fill us in...
Pitchforks & Torches
Tester is the Democrat up against incumbent Conrad Burns (foot in mouth candidate). The joke is what the director of the state Republican Party says to defend his attack on Tester alone.
Asked whether Republican senators who voted with Tester also had failed to protect children from sexual predators, Chuck Denowh, executive director of the state Republican Party, said, "From our perspective, this is just about Jon Tester."
Here is an amusing article about gas prices and its correlation with rising and falling political fortunes...
The size of my balls exploded under Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson, preparing the soil for totalitarianism.
Gasoline will bounce right back up after the election, we don't even need to be cyincal about that.
It's just another short-term payoff to feed the sheeple the poison of nonsustainability.
But the real question is...have sweet crude prices dropped to the level of yesteryear when gasoline prices were this low? That comparison will speak volumes.
Catch you guys on the flipper...
steve simels |
'night, young'un
May sweet dreams, no bedbugs, peaceful rest and a lovely morning await you.
preparing the soil for totalitarianism.
And when did that totalitarianism occur? During the Nixon years?
it seems that ultimately gas prices are the only thing that people notice. sad but true.
Pitchforks & Torches
hey, dear. thanks for the greeting earlier,
But the real question is...have sweet crude prices dropped to the level of yesteryear when gasoline prices were this low? That comparison will speak volumes.
That's a good tip. Thanks, I will research it. Though there might be valid reasons for a different relationship. Actually, what I can do is to talk to some people I know who study the oil market.
Vladimir Putin has issued a statement that he warned Bill Clinton of Bin Laden's plan to attack the USS Cole.
Makes me understand vegetarians, and I ain't joking.
Sarah Deere
It is problematic. I understand the moral reasons for vegetarianism and believe that the industrial factory processing of animals is utterly cruel...but I think chicken fried steak and gravy is quite tasty.
I oppose the death penalty...but if one of my family members is murdered, would I be so just and moral?
I try to live with the credo that I and the other are one, that what I do to another, I do do to myself.
I was raised with Christianity, and though I have dispensed with the organizational and dogmatic elements, some of the principles still make sense to me. The mythos of compassion and forgiveness remains paramount to me.
However, a true test of such principles is whether I could forgive remorseless evil.
I honestly do not know.
mick, mike, bill, andy, = jack.
iris | 09.24.06 - 1:28 am | #
Link??
iris = jack, too.
Without question that obscene rag should not be purchased nor read.
I honestly do not know.
Uncle Smokes
Same here, Uncle, I wish I did.
Bobby St. Chomsky | 09.24.06 - 1:30 am | #
But I love Froomkin!
Comedian Phyllis Diller has issued a statement that she warned George Bush of Bin Laden's plan to attack on 911.
There is a Bat out of Hell II and III?
Just saw a wacky commercial for it.
Comedian Phyllis Diller has issued a statement that she warned George Bush of Bin Laden's plan to attack on 911.
The whole gucking fovernment tried to warn Bush that Bin Laden was determined to attack inside the US but he and Condi wanted to go play ranch in Crawford instead.
iris | 09.24.06 - 1:28 am | #
Link??
gimmeabreak | 09.24.06 - 1:30 am | #
I googled clinton+putin+bin laden and came up with this: http://www.papillonsartpalace.co...e.com/
putin.htm
You can always trust the 100% SPIN-FREE NewsMax.....
I heard someone on Randi Rhodes' show say that Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia. Is that right?
Hey, thanks, hey...
I look, however, at how few countries retain executions and wonder why we still do this when so many others do not.
Sarah Deere
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A country which practices the death penalty is cruel and inhuman - but that's what America has become - so go ahead, America, kill, kill, kill.
Well, the eyes are falling, the yawns are stretching, and so it's off to bed for me.
I know I'll see some of y'all again in the wee hours, and until then, y'all take care of your good selves...especially you, Sarah Deere.
Good night.
It occurs to me that we have one fucking HUGE string section fiddling while...well, you know.
iris | 09.24.06 - 1:28 am | #
Good Lord, I got punk'd by a troll. That information is 5 years old.
However, a true test of such principles is whether I could forgive remorseless evil.
I will never forgive the current cabal for the Iraq deaths. Voting for a rethug in the future after "forgiveness" is impossible for me to justify.
We wait, we wait, interminably for the end of the tunnel, and it gets darker each day.
It will end when the last remaining seated rethug Senator left utters "There was no one left to defend me." Bushco seems bent on destroying its own party at this point. This week proved it.
thanks, Uncle. Sleep well, warrior man.
A country which practices the death penalty is cruel and inhuman - but that's what America has become - so go ahead, America, kill, kill, kill.
The Jeebofascists are seriously into kill kill kill.
I heard someone on Randi Rhodes' show say that Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia. Is that right?
Of course it's true. That's because Saudi Arabia is nearly out of oil and they've fooled us all.
There's no link. This is what happens every election cycle. I doubt Putin will help Bush this time.
The GOP propaganda machine works on 3 levels. International, national, and local.
The assists by the Pope and Musharraf were deliberate.
Local level propaganda is also starting to appear.
Osama faked his own death.
Sarah, interesting comment about fiddling... didn't one of the Ceasars execute all of the Senators?
remorseless evil
Rolling and Sondra London have been trying to make a buck off his crimes from day one. Makes you kinda wonder about before day one.
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It occurs to me that we have one fucking HUGE string section fiddling while...well, you know.
Sarah Deere
Yeah, and they're playing Bernard Hermann's Psycho score.
Reet! Reet! Reet! Reet! Reet! Reet!
I heard someone on Randi Rhodes' show say that Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia. Is that right?
A lot of their oil is thick enough that it requires steam extraction to pump it out of the ground. Makes the oil less profitable to pump, but with current prices Venezuela is doing just fine.
Good Lord, I got punk'd by a troll. That information is 5 years old.
gimmeabreak | 09.24.06 - 1:39 am | #
gimmeabreak:
Do you still have that website up? It's
http://www.papillonsartpalace.co...e.com/
billC.htm
Go to the home page and see if you can find a link to all of the right-wing horseshit; you really have to dig.
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com
A secret back room, for true believers only!
Good Lord, I got punk'd by a troll. That information is 5 years old.
gimmeabreak | 09.24.06 - 1:39 am | #
gimmeabreak:
Do you still have that website up? It's
http://www.papillonsartpalace.co...e.com/
billC.htm
Go to the home page and see if you can find a link to all of the right-wing horseshit; you really have to dig.
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com
A secret back room, for true believers only!
Torture is always wrong.
Teach your kids.
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Oil is still twenty bucks a barrel higher than it was when gasoline prices were this low. All pricing in the capital markets is suspect, as far as I'm concerned, when you've had an extended period with the Fed Funds rate was 1%. Twenty something rate hikes later, rates are still low. This is how money and credit is created. The fucking world is so awash in worthless US dollars and those dollars NEED to find a place to go. Oil futures and forward conracts, with the geo-policital problems of the last few years, made speculating and attactive place put dollars to work. Ironically, though most Amerikans don't get it, the same distortions that plague oil now plague the US housing market - think about the similiarities of both - extreme leverage(you only need to put five cents for every dollar in oil futures and forwards, shit, housing you sometimes don't need to put up anything). The rise of interest rates, as historically as moderate as it has been, have mitigated money and credit creation. Very soon, a year or two perhaps, we will be revisiting the 2003 worries about actual deflation taking root. Its gonna be ugly, but if any nation ever deserved it, make no mistake, IT IS US.
Osama faked his own death.
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Oh? I guess the conventional wisdom about Hillary killing him in a fit of jealous lesbian rage is inaccurate?
Oops.
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The Jeebofascists are seriously into kill kill kill.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
They would be very pleased if Bush nuked Iran. Their his base so he wouldn't lose any political capital with them if he did. It will still take some pretext before that happens like one of our aircraft carriers in the Gulf getting hit with WMDs like chemical or biological which Iran does have and that it can be blamed on them.
Torture is always wrong.
Teach your kids.
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melior
No one could have imagined that a boy who like to blow up frogs would decades later negotiate with the US Senate about how much torture he could apply.
Amerika lost it all with the grace of Leon Spinks. Rolled by a whore, alone in a flea-bag hotel, looking for his false teeth.
Its gonna be ugly, but if any nation ever deserved it, make no mistake, IT IS US.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 09.24.06 - 1:48 am | #
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you hate america don't you
Hey, I'll poke around a bit until my stomach can't take it.
I hate what my fellow citizens have done to it. She was a natural beauty, but they turned her into a painted whore.
No one could have imagined that a boy who like to blow up frogs would decades later negotiate with the US Senate about how much torture he could apply.
George Johnston
For some of us, the smirk he wore as our Governor when he mocked Karla Faye Tucker's plea for clemency was a giveaway.
yes she used to be quite fetching. such a shame.
Hey, I'll poke around a bit until my stomach can't take it.
gimmeabreak | 09.24.06 - 1:51 am | #
It didn't take me long to feel that way.
If it doesn't jump out at you, go to the bottom of the page and look for:
Just added! Visit Papillon's Husband Bob's Adventures for an interesting visit.
I didn't need to read that right before I go to bed...holy fuck. The Christianists have truly taken over.
American Fascism™: Same shit, different brownshirts
...the second pic when you image search "assclown" on google is of Ann Coulter from a Juraissic Pork link...
Now it's the first.
"You can't say it too often. I'll say it again. That is not a Muslim child, but a child of Muslim parents. That child is too young to know whether it is a Muslim or not. There is no such thing as a Muslim child. There is no such thing as a Christian child."
-- Richard Dawkins
Yeah, and they're playing Bernard Hermann's Psycho score.
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Strings were the only instruments used in that score.
hey | 09.24.06 - 1:56 am | #
I'll check out the husband's link, but what I've seen already - this woman is batshit crazy. I wonder if her "art customers" know what lurks behind her home page.
Gary Hart: October Surprise
For a divinely guided president who imagines himself to be a latter day Winston Churchill (albeit lacking the ability to formulate intelligent sentences), and who professedly does not care about public opinion at home or abroad, anything is possible, and dwindling days in power may be seen as making the most apocalyptic actions necessary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
ga...se_b_30086.html
Richard Dawkins has a blind spot when it comes to faith. The child knows its a Muslim when it gets a facewash with its parents blood because the family happened to be out after curfew in Tikrit and spooked some soldiers at a security checkpoint. The secular solution of providing a Happy Meal and a Teddy Bear will likely be of small consolation.
this woman is batshit crazy. I wonder if her "art customers" know what lurks behind her home page.
gimmeabreak | 09.24.06 - 2:00 am | #
Her husband is batshit crazier. I saw a lot more than I wanted to. It was nothing I've never seen before, but a bit more than I needed this close to bedtime.
In my fantasy about this guy, he cruises for teenaged male prostitutes....
The secular solution of providing a Happy Meal and a Teddy Bear will likely be of small consolation.
James Jesus Rimbaud
It's true. Only eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Baby Jeebus can heal that kind of trauma. That, and her 5 older brothers and 25 cousins killing US soldiers in retaliation.
R&T...could be, re: senators, dunno.
Uncle..yes!!
And as for the Papillon folx, yikes!!! Nutwads!!!!!
I just farted. har har har
U.S. Apologizes for Detaining Venezuela Diplomat
CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela's foreign minister was detained at a New York airport on Saturday, prompting an apology from the U.S. government and compounding already tense relations between the two countries.
In New York, State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said the United States regretted the incident involving Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro at John F. Kennedy airport.
http://tinyurl.com/z4klo
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In my fantasy about this guy, he cruises for teenaged male prostitutes....
hey | 09.24.06 - 2:04 am | #
And they call liberals "unhinged". Well on that note, I'm off to bed.
In New York, State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said the United States regretted the incident involving Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro at John F. Kennedy airport.
"regretted the incident"? I fucking think NOT.
This is fucking Bushwad's idea of revenge.
Pathetic tiny penis-ed "man".
I've concluded that the current wave of neoconism is the result of above-ground nuclear testing in Nevada. The prevailing winds carried the radiation to all of the red states.
The neocons are the mutants.
Maduro's detention was denied by the State department. When did they reconsider?
Fred Hiatt has been doing so much Chimpwhoring that his mancunt must be stretched to the dimensions of a drainage culvert. I have nothing more to add.
The Onion and us had it right three years ago:
http://www.theonion.com/content/...tent/node/
34144
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."
- Thomas Jefferson
I've boiled down Bush's address for you so you can get a feel for how we look to the world. Compare his to Brazil's, and decide who the world leaders really are right now. For W., I pulled out only the key words for his message, the ones we in the U.S, know so well, but the rest of the world might find perplexing and disturbing.
This is what they heard in his TWENTY MINUTE address:
Attacks...death...suffering...terrible...extremist
s...killed...enemies...murder... Al Qaeda... extremist... attacked... extremists... terrible extremists... terror... weapon... fear... terror... extremists... terror... terrible... war... brutal Taliban... dictator... killed... destabilizing... oppression... hopelessness... extremism... propaganda... conspiracy theories... extremists... misery... violence... terror... martyrdom... blow themselves up... suicide attacks... terror... conquest... extremists... “My country desires peace”... extremists... propaganda... war... propaganda... terror... “death and destruction”
Then he addressed the peoples of:
Iraq:
“car bombers”... assassins... “horrendous acts of terror”... “sectarian violence”... “enemies of freedom”... “terrorists and extremists”...
Afghanistan:
misery... terrorists... death... extremists... oppress... terrorists...
Lebanon:
“Hezbollah’s unprovoked attacks on Israel”... crossfire... suffering... “armed extremists”...
Iran:
"fund terrorism"... extremism... “nuclear weapons”... “nuclear weapons ambitions”...
Syria:
“crossroad for terrorism”... “Hamas and Hezbollah”... “tool of Iran”... isolation... “support for terror”
Darfur:
violence... atrocities... genocide... suffering... “not strong enough”...
Palestinians:
“decades of corruption and violence”... “daily humiliation of occupation”
Israel:
“brutal acts of terrorism”... “constant fear of attack”... extremists... hatred... Hamas... “extremist agenda”... terror... terrorists and extremists
MOST IRONIC LINE OF THE ADDRESS: “Freedom, by its nature, cannot be imposed - It must be chosen”
Jersey Jay | 09.23.06 - 11:36 pm | #
Best 911 documentary so far:
http://video.google.com/videopla...2003&pr=goog-
sl
I think E&P made a mistake. That endorsement is from August 10th...exact same wording. Plus, the Washington Post has their Sunday editorial page up and Lieberman is not mentioned.
I think E&P made a mistake. That endorsement is from August 10th...exact same wording. Plus, the Washington Post has their Sunday editorial page up and Lieberman is not mentioned.
BarbinMD | 09.24.06 - 3:15 am | #
Doh!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
art...2372277,00.html
RITISH soldiers have been caught smuggling stolen guns out of Iraq and allegedly exchanging them for cocaine and cash on the black market.
Security officials confirmed this weekend that soldiers from the 3rd Battalion the Yorkshire Regiment are at the centre of a criminal inquiry by the Royal Military Police (RMP) into a “guns for cocaine” network.
I think E&P made a mistake.
Well, Fred's gonna have to give the plaque back.
fuckin' time zones . . .
Just Say NO to Republican Joe!
dave™©
I ALREADY SAID IT BACK IN 2000!
This is a real hotbed of liberal activity, isn't it?
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Hiatt is a piece of shit, and fuck the Greedy Old Pricks and all their fucking pathetic brain dead minions.
Well, Fred's gonna have to give the plaque back.
I wondered how the dewankification process worked. But really, he should just hold onto it until his next editorial.
If it's any consolence to you all, it looks like Daniel Akaka (D-HI) won the primary for Senate. Liebercrat Ed Case (booo, hisss), who quit his house seat to run for Senate, is going to the unemployment line. Anti-war Akaka will wipe out the rethug challenger in November, 3 to 1. It looks safe.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, fate. And the voters.
Morning
The wingnuts don't care 911 was an inside job...
Woo hoo! A Fred wins! Oh, wait . . .
The so-called "Russian Mafia" is actually a Jewish mafia. They were probably in on 911.
http://www.youtube.com/comment_s...v%
3DfAoe26MaTew
This is a real hotbed of liberal activity, isn't it?
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fukr | 09.24.06 - 3:44 am
go fuck yourself.
P&T - you're still up, darlin'!
When do you sleep??
xxoo/SD
what is this outrage!!?? how can you take back fred's wanker award?? the man lives wanker, he eats wanker, he DEFINES wanker. this is a gross injustice--don't worry fred, we all know youre the real wanker.
what is this outrage!!?? how can you take back fred's wanker award?? the man lives wanker, he eats wanker, he DEFINES wanker. this is a gross injustice--don't worry fred, we all know youre the real wanker.
pretzelattack
What? Did he get caught lip syncing again?
Fox News of all media organizations reported in a 4 part series on the Israeli/911 connection. Later, it was scrubbed from their website...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=fAoe26MaTew
it was based on an old column. but it
was still a wankey column, by god.
WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee.
ya just know that "Pat" Roberts, chairman of Senate Intelligence Committees (sic) version will trump the above version, by the mainstream MSM...
the way i see it, there's no statute of limitations on wankery.
WE WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE WAY IN WHICH POLITICIANS ARE REPRESENTED IN THIS PROGRAMME. IT WAS NEVER OUR INTENTION TO IMPLY THAT POLITICIANS ARE WEAK-KNEED, POLITICAL TIME-SERVERS WHO ARE CONCERNED MORE WITH THEIR PERSONAL VENDETTAS AND PRIVATE POWER STRUGGLES THAN THE PROBLEMS OF GOVERNMENT, NOR TO SUGGEST AT ANY POINT THAT THEY SACRIFICE THEIR CREDIBILITY BY DENYING FREE DEBATE ON VITAL MATTERS IN THE MISTAKEN IMPRESSION THAT PARTY UNITY COMES BEFORE THE WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE THEY SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENT NOR TO IMPLY AT ANY STAGE THAT THEY ARE SQUABBLING LITTLE TOADIES WITHOUT AN OUNCE OF CONCERN FOR THE VITAL SOCIAL PROBLEMS OF TODAY. NOR INDEED DO WE INTEND THAT VIEWERS SHOULD CONSIDER THEM AS CRABBY ULCEROUS LITTLE SELF-SEEKING VERMIN WITH FURRY LEGS AND AN EXCESSIVE ADDICTION TO ALCOHOL AND CERTAIN EXPLICIT SEXUAL PRACTICES WHICH SOME PEOPLE MIGHT FIND OFFENSIVE.
WE ARE SORRY IF THIS IMPRESSION HAS COME ACROSS.
ripped from Monty Python
I watched part of Timmy's interview with Frank Rich on CNBC. As usual, it was quite good. Timmy knows that we were lied into this war and yet on his network show he gives the maladministration a total and complete pass. I guess that makes him worse than the idiots who don't know better.
Incog, that crap about the Jews causing 9/11 is just that, absolute and total crap.
Over 100 Israeli spies were deported shortly after 911...
Editorial
Facing Facts on Iraq
If there is still a constructive way out of this disaster, it has to begin with some truth-telling. Politicians are not going to press for serious solutions when their constituents have not been prepared to understand what the real options are. Republicans will not talk about genuine alternatives as long as their supporters have been primed to believe victory is possible. Few Democrats will advocate anything that might wind up transferring responsibility for this awful mess to them.
when elephants fly...
ql in ny appalled
John Spencer is on channel 4.
Boy, Hillary is gonna have a cakewalk.
That's good news about Akaka, he is so sound a person, it looked like his age was the only factor against him. Tnks, P&T
REally, incog, the Jewish mafia stuff just doesn't make the gag barrier.
ql, 36% of Americans polled think 911 was an inside job. If it was, Jewish Zionists would have to be involved. Who else?
Flip Flop alert
Oops...
Spencer was attacking Hillary for voting for the war.
When asked if he would have voted for it, he said, "Knowing what we know now, well, yes I would have voted for it."
OK now, how can you attack someone for something you admit that you would have done too?
Being Jewish is immaterial to me. If Mayans had the motive and the resources, I would be suspicious of them.
look there is credible conspiracy stuff and incredible conspiracy stuff. the 100 jewish spies things is just bullshit, i mean cmon.
pretzelattack, view this video and then get back with me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=fAoe26MaTew
'36% of Americans polled think 911 was an inside job.'
is that the same % that think the cretin in chief is doing great in Iraq?
From all I see, 'Jewish Zionists' is an invention of the Ayatollahs.
Not to mention the bullshit of all the Jews who were warned not to come to work that day. Total, absolute, complete bullshit.
It was an inside job to the extent that the maladministration were warned that it was coming and they sat on their hands. Clearing brush in Crawford with his wife was far more important to w than protecting the country.
Welcome to NY Barry. I wager 90% of NYers cannot name Hillary's opponent.
incog, the people that flew the planes into the buildings were saudi arabs--not noted for sympathy for zionism. bush, who is not jewish, blew off explicit warnings that osama bin ladin, who is also not jewish, was planning to attack the us. a youtube video (and i hope it wasnt that dancing israeli thing that has been floating around the internet for years) is not going to change those facts.
im not going to argue about it, and im not going to watch the video. call me closed minded.
I'm awake.
Welcome to NY Barry. I wager 90% of NYers cannot name Hillary's opponent.
ql in ny appalled
Holy shit, this Spencer dude was having an affair with his secretary, then made her his Chief of Staff, then married her and kept her as Chief of Staff.
Typical rethug family values, taught by Newt.
No serious 911 researcher claims Jewish office workers were warned not to go to work at WTC. If anything, it was put out by some to discredit questioning what really happened. View the video, ql, and then get back to me...
Good morning, all. The WH gang has got remedial work to do, not enuff people are swallowing whole the muck they're hocking up.
also;
CNN;
Would al Qaeda still be a major terrorism threat if Osama bin Laden were dead?
Yes 90% 22124 votes
No 10% 2551 votes
Total: 24675 votes
pretzelattack, the YouTube video is a 4 part series aired by Fox News. Hardly an anti-Israeli news organization. All of it is very thoroughly fact-checked through a dozen governmental agencies. The series was later scrubbed from Fox's website.
And in CA, crops are rotting in the fields because the thugs in Congress are playing hot potato with border enforcement/work gang legislation. They're losing the growers, too.
awwwww.
just looking at the new york times the other day, and buzzflash today, incompetence and corruption in government is almost the rule these days, from fema to hud to the irs to education to homeland security to foreign policy to the fda to the dept. of the interior--just completely riddled with it and ruined by it.
Ariel Dorfman has written a beautiful, eloquent, article against torture in the WaPo, of all places.
He refuses to use the "bad intelligence" and "quid pro quo" arguments against it, and simply talks about the morality.
Can't the United States see that when we allow someone to be tortured by our agents, it is not only the victim and the perpetrator who are corrupted, not only the "intelligence" that is contaminated, but also everyone who looked away and said they did not know, everyone who consented tacitly to that outrage so they could sleep a little safer at night, all the citizens who did not march in the streets by the millions to demand the resignation of whoever suggested, even whispered, that torture is inevitable in our day and age, that we must embrace its darkness?
Are we so morally sick, so deaf and dumb and blind, that we do not understand this? Are we so fearful, so in love with our own security and steeped in our own pain, that we are really willing to let people be tortured in the name of America? Have we so lost our bearings that we do not realize that each of us could be that hapless Argentine who sat under the Santiago sun, so possessed by the evil done to him that he could not stop shivering?
You know what would be funny? If Rumsfeld was chained in a stress position for six hours, until he shit on himself. Then if he were waterboarded for a few hours until he couldn't scream any more, that would be hilarious. He has no honor, he has no courage, and he has no heart, so watching him writhe in agony until he dies would be a major hoot! If anyone does that, please post pics.
Then there's the changeover from gov't inspection to 'voluntary compliance'. put down the spinach and back away slowly.
'Food and Drug Administration, with responsibility for all processed food products except meat and poultry, has 1,962 inspectors for more than 100,000 facilities -- a decrease of more than 250 inspectors since 2003. Today food processing plants are inspected on average once every 10 years. '
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6092201397.html
Not a Zionist Plot.
Here's the link: Are We Really So Fearful?
Thalia, Karin, that we are not storming the barricades at the prospect of 'degrees' of torture being seriously considered in D.C. is shameful. The US deserves a new gov't entirely, this one is corrupt and venial.
oh, and bush is apparently blocking an investigation into pinochet's link to that murder (letelier) that he ordered back in the 70s in washington, i think. yep, letting another terrorist go free.
Ruth, with all the spinach articles, I still haven't seen anyone explain HOW the spinach is contaminated. Is it a case where a good washing could have removed the e coli from the surface, or is IN the spinach itself?
We still have good spinach in Alaska.
http://www.ktuu.com/cms/anmviewe....asp?a=6458&
z=6
It turns out that Iraq isn't the central front in the 'war on terror.' It is instead now the principal incubator of anti-American terrorism, because people in the Sunni world are so furious at what Bush is doing there. That is the conclusion I draw from this report on the conclusions of US intelligence analysts.
Juan Cole take on A 30-page National Intelligence Estimate completed in April... the leading inspiration for new Islamic extremist networks and cells that are united by little more than an anti-Western agenda. It concludes that, rather than contributing to eventual victory in the global counterterrorism struggle, the situation in Iraq has worsened the U.S. position...
"What these guys at NIC are supposed to do is to lay it out in very clear, understandable terms," said the intelligence official. "It's not the role of the NIC to offer recommendations." Rather, it "basically states the conditions" as the intelligence community sees them. ( then it's up to Pat Roberts Senate Intelligence committee to spin it repug style)
for those who care..3 more soliders killed...sad..
We still have good spinach in Alaska.
Yes, I'm sure you do. I've got some lovely swiss chard in my garden that can't be eaten raw, but is a good substitute for cooked spinach.
Juan Cole is going to be on Amy Goodman's Democracy Now on Monday, iirc.
Ksrin, I understand it has to do with contaminated water supply, ag areas include pig farms etc. But the testing of products takes place in the processing plant.
Israel had foreknowledge of 9/11 – that was Carl Cameron's explosive contention, made last year in a blockbuster series of reports on Fox News exposing an Israeli spy ring in the U.S. New evidence confirms his story – and points to a rather ominous conclusion…
http://100777.com/node/180
C'mon folks, the migrant workers were using the spinach as toilet paper.
Victory gardens weren't very productive in NTX this year, I fear.
C'mon folks, the migrant workers were using the spinach as toilet paper.
That was my first thought, but there's also the runoff from the lagoons of pig shit.
There you go, if Ben Forgotten dies of typhus while here spinach is contaminated, we might have a whole new consciousness about water standards. And with EPA showing its indifference to public health at Ground Zero, well, turn the rotten crew out. From the top down.
BRITT HUME: Carl, what about this question of advanced knowledge of what was going to happen on 9-11? How clear are investigators that some Israeli agents may have known something?
CAMERON: It's very explosive information, obviously, and there's a great deal of evidence that they say they have collected — none of it necessarily conclusive. It's more when they put it all together. A bigger question, they say, is how could they not have know? Almost a direct quote.
HUME: Going into the fact that they were spying on some Arabs, right?
CAMERON: Correct.
incog, foreknowledge of 911 also was shown by the FBI agent whose superiors wouldn't listen to suspicions of ME-erners learning how to fly and not how to land. It was out there, and it was the cabal in the WH that was trying to cut military and intelligence, that had to refuse to acknowledge that the US needs protection - because it interfered with their tax cut priorities.
I still haven't seen anyone explain HOW the spinach is contaminated. Is it a case where a good washing could have removed the e coli from the surface, or is IN the spinach itself?
it's my understanding, that IF the cows were still fatten up by grazing the grasses, their waste, used as fertilizer, would not probably contain the dangerous E. coli virus..however, the good ole murkin tradition to fatten the faster, they are fed corn and other grains, which their stomachs do not fully digest, thereby providing a fertile area for the virus to grow..I suppose that the waste could/is processed to remove the virus...butthere are those who cut some corners, to save a buck, and use the unprocessed waste, to fertilize the spinach, ergo problems...
'C'mon folks, the migrant workers were using the spinach as toilet paper.
That was my first thought, but there's also the runoff from the lagoons of pig shit.
Karin'
BTW, e coli kills people which makes it hard for them to spread it.
Morning all. It was undoubtedly the water that brought the e-coli to the spinach. All sorts of weird things are done with water in California. My guess is an irrigation ditch was poisoned upstream. This is too big of a financial hit to simply go away-- we'll know soon enough.
incog, foreknowledge of 911 also was shown by the FBI agent whose superiors wouldn't listen to suspicions of ME-erners learning how to fly and not how to land. It was out there
The argument and the whole point if it was an inside job is if the Israeli agents had advanced knowledge about the 911 plot.
You also have to think about why e-coli has such a horrible effect. There's a huge population in the states that simply isn't healthy enough to fight off a bacteria that healthy people wouldn't even notice. Blame malnutriition, poverty, poor or non-existent health care, etc.
incog, Ramsi Yousef [who used liquid explosives] knew that there were plans in some places to fly planes into buildings, the twin towers were a longterm goal of the many plotters. Inside knowledge? it was out there.
Moe, sensitivities are very variable. There is an epidemic of antibiotic-resistant staph infection, that literally eats flesh, breaking out and is particularly bad in NTX. Again, the antibiotics fed to animals in mass farming industries is a suspect.
Doctor at execution balked
California's scheduled execution of Michael Angelo Morales, officially called off at 2:45 a.m. Feb. 21, actually aborted more than six hours earlier, when an anesthesiologist was told of his court-ordered duties for the first time and responded, "I can't participate. I can't proceed."
Five days earlier, the state had filed a document in federal court stating that the backup anesthesiologist, now identified only as "A2," would "monitor (Morales) and provide the verification" that he was unconscious during the execution.
A U.S. District Court judge and then the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals accepted that assurance and permitted the execution preparations to move forward. But nobody had told A2, who was recruited with an understanding that he'd do nothing but serve as a "warm body."
The scenario unfolded Tuesday in a lengthy statement of the facts, filed jointly by the state attorney general's office and Morales' lawyers in preparation for a full-blown judicial review of California's lethal injection procedure.
Set to open Sept. 26 in federal court in San Jose before U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel, the hearing will revolve around whether the procedure presents an unacceptable risk of inflicting extreme pain in violation of the Eighth Amendment.
The focus will be on the qualifications of execution team members and the conditions under which they work.
In newly filed prehearing statements, Morales' lawyers contend executions are carried out under "unacceptable conditions" by prison staff "with criminal records of misconduct," who lack training in administering intravenous drugs and other essential personal and professional skills.
The Morales lawyers also say a former execution team leader was removed from that job and suspended from work for several months for misconduct unrelated to the carrying out of executions.
Look, the point is "if it was an inside job." If so, the only group capable and eagerly willing behind it would be extremist forces within Israel. Those are called Zionists. They've done something similar before. Remember the facts surrounding the attacks on the USS Liberty?
Ruth-- the two aren't mutually exclusive. There can be antibiotic-resistant strains of e-coli and a weakened, unhealthy population.
Incog-- why would the Israelis risk it? They already get everything they want from the Americans.
Incog-- why would the Israelis risk it? They already get everything they want from the Americans.
Moe Szyslak
They could have never gotten a war against Iraq or a GWOT without 911.
Ô¿Ô, you've made a great leap from "advance information", to "an inside job". Can you explain why OBL and AlQaeda would be acting at the Israelis' bidding? It makes no sense.
True, Moe, but I became acutely aware of the variability factor when I had a really weird reaction to flu shots last year, after never having had this happen before. And the same serum had no effect on the others who took it.
My understanding was that they used to take the produce to an inside structure, away from contaminants for the final rinse. Instead, they are now doing the final rinse in the fields to save money which allows for proximity to bacteria.
incog, I have friends who are totally convinced that al Quaeda was behind the OK City bombing, too. They have strings of facts that can be fitted to fit the scenario. And Ralph Yarborough and Ms. Connally went to their graves contending that more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza than were officially recorded. Conspiracies are fun. Michael Moore really intended to ruin the golf industry, that's why he went after the cretin in chief in 9-11, btw.
They could have never gotten a war against Iraq or a GWOT without 911.
Ô¿Ô
We know that Bush was determined to attack Iraq, no matter what. True, 9-11 provided the excuse, but they would've done it regardless, with or without 9-11.
Colin Powell testifying to the Senate that 911 was a 'great opportunity' was a clincher. Yep, Iraq could have exploded its own weapons plants with the inspectors on the scene and the cabal was going to war with them anyway.
'Instead, they are now doing the final rinse in the fields to save money which allows for proximity to bacteria.
ql in ny appalled'
And would not pass tests by Ag Dept inspectors, if it were not for the cabal's imposition of 'voluntary compliance' on the former inspection process.
incog, foreknowledge of 911 also was shown by the FBI agent whose superiors wouldn't listen to suspicions of ME-erners learning how to fly and not how to land. It was out there
The argument and the whole point if it was an inside job is if the Israeli agents had advanced knowledge about the 911 plot.
Ô¿Ô | 09.24.06 - 7:06 am | #
Amen, and twice on Sunday.
Moe, sensitivities are very variable. There is an epidemic of antibiotic-resistant staph infection, that literally eats flesh, breaking out and is particularly bad in NTX. Again, the antibiotics fed to animals in mass farming industries is a suspect.
Ruth, revolted | Homepage | 09.24.06 - 7:13 am | #
With the respect this administration exhibits for science, it will SURELY come to the same conclusion...
They could have never gotten a war against Iraq or a GWOT without 911.
Ô¿Ô
We know that Bush was determined to attack Iraq, no matter what. True, 9-11 provided the excuse, but they would've done it regardless, with or without 9-11.
Moe Szyslak | 09.24.06 - 7:27 am | #
But would they have gotten their imperial presidency without 911?
I knew about the Loma Priata earthquake about 2 hours before it hit, because my cats hid like thay always do when a big one is on the way.
IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!
MY CATS CAUSE EARTHQUAKES!!!
"Ah, I feel wefweshed!"
Whaddayaknow, I actually slept a solid five hours.
Good morning all.
The argument and the whole point if it was an inside job is if the Israeli agents had advanced knowledge about the 911 plot.
Several Israelis died on 9/11/01.
and...
Maybe it's just me, but, uh, I'd feel a LOT better if the "Why was this man tortured?" ad with the picture of Maher Arar *didn't* remind me of those "Why Is This Man Smiling?" ads on the backs of comic books.
Again, the antibiotics fed to animals in mass farming industries is a suspect.
__________
Corn is the enemy. Corn fed beef is so much more yummy, and corn more cost effective as a feed than grass. However, cows 4 stomachs are designed for grass, so corn feed makes them sick. They're sick so much of the time, that it only makes sense to keep them on antibiotics 24/7. They become resistant to antibiotics, we eat them, and we become resistant, too.
The animals ran for cover during the tsunami last year too while the humans got smeared....our instincts have been superceded by all of the other charming things our minds are dwelling on, darned asymetric cerebral lobes.
To raise enough corn to make our cows sick, it is necessary to dump a ton or so of oil on any given corn field as fertilizer.
The American diet, corn and oil.
I agree with Cockburn:
From Flying Saucers to 9/11
From Flying Saucers to 9/11
The world is in tumult, but here in the heart of Empire the level of creative political energy runs flat along the bottom of the graph. As Iraq disintegrates amid frightful slaughter, US generals propose to bring to life the mad plan they ascribed to Saddam Hussein, to dig a defensive ditch round Baghdad, one of the larger cities on the planet. In Afghanistan the Taliban are once again on the rise. Amid these vivid implosions of the "war on terror," the US antiwar movement is near dead.
Here in the homeland, the mightiest names of the auto-industrial age have their backs to the wall. Tens of thousands of men and women face grim times as Ford and GM shutter plant after plant. Yet the pulse of organized labor amid this devastation is feeble. From the environmental movement there is an even fainter heartbeat, even as an actual conspiracy--official concealment of the toxic toll on New Yorkers from the 9/11 attack--finally comes to light. There's no convincing energy plan beyond posturing about ANWR; no protest at the giveaways of public lands.
The theory goes that certain agents with advanced foreknowledge about plans for 911 including the date and time planted explosives for a controlled demolition of the WTC. This video lays it all out including facts that the WTC was increasingly vacant of tenets and a financial loser for the Port Authority so that different company offices were moved around from floor to floor. Also, reports that strange men in jumpsuits were seen unrolling spools of wire and loud noises eminating from supposedly vacant floors, etc.
http://video.google.com/videopla...2003&pr=goog-
sl
Also, before the WTC collapsed, an explosion occured on the ground floor. Windows were clearly seen blown out with smoke rising. What would cause the windows of the lobby to explode outward?
Ah, com'on Incog-- it would take thousands upon thousands of people to pull off such a conspiracy. And we're to believe that the Israelis are responsible for the soft New York real estate market?
Even now, we do not know for certain whether or not the Reichstag Fire was an "inside job."
History has made clear, however, that the Nazis knew exactly what to do with it after.
Those who seek power, seize power. Those who fear, yield.
Why crash planes into the building if you're going to blown it up? Makes no sense.
good one, portia. camoflage.
''They become resistant to antibiotics, we eat them, and we become resistant, too.
el'
Time to fence in my yard and start growing chickens in the back, veggies in the front. And I'm looking for a handmade sign saying Keep Out.
Again, the antibiotics fed to animals in mass farming industries is a suspect.
Ruth
One of the (many) reasons that I have problems with Monsanto is that they used a bacterial antibiotic resistance gene as a marker gene.
There are some big problems in the transgenics industry that have nothing to do with transgenics per se.
It's also possible that the St. Joseph statue industry has caused the collapse of our home sales, as the newest real estate trick is burying St. Joe upside down to hex your house into a sale.
The one clear and incontravertable sign that it was, if not an "inside job" then at least well anticipated, are the put shares bought in the week before 9/11. Reuters and others had said American and United were looking at a drmatic up-trend. Why buy put shares (shares that pay based on stock dropping rather than rising) on stocks that're rising with such promise? Look to the CEO of A.B. Browne for the answers to who bought the bulk of those shares.
Did the Bush administration attack the World Trade Center? No. Did they allow it to happen? Of course! Why else alter standard NORAD and FAA proceedures as soon as they took office, when the old system would have prevented this? Why else were all the FAA tapes of 9/11 found shredded, in different waste baskets? Why can none of the air traffic controllers on duty be interviewed? Why are all personel at Andrews Airforce Base under strict orders not to discuss the events of that day, and the stand-down order that kept them grounded? Why did Cheney warn the Afghanis that they're accept a carpet of gold, or be buried under a carpet of bombs?
No, the Bush administration didn't slam planes into buildings... they merely left the door open, provoked mad dogs, and sat back and watched while we were attacked.
There can be no question that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, et. al. are guilty of high treason, mass murder, mass tortture, the theft of trillions of dollars, and are accessories to the deaths of the victims of 9/11. They're traitors, plain and simp0le, and justice has to be done. We have to demand it. If we can't get it, the trains have to stop.
We don't need to be violent, we need to take some time off. Once the money people see that we're willing to cost them billions by missing a few days of work here and there, they'll pull the funding from this cartel of greedy sociopaths, and our new choices for leadership will take care of the rest. If work strikes don't work, tax strikes will.
Time to fence in my yard and start growing chickens in the back, veggies in the front. And I'm looking for a handmade sign saying Keep Out.
Ruth, revolted
Ah, The Good Life.
Why crash planes into the building if you're going to blown it up? Makes no sense.
Moe Szyslak
To put the correct "face" on it.
A great big Saudi mug,
uhmmm, Iraqi, no wait....
gee, I am confused
Why crash planes into the building if you're going to blown it up? Makes no sense.
Moe Szyslak
Just view the video like I did. It's all explained there. I have to scoot. Later all.
What would cause the windows of the lobby to explode outward?
Ô¿Ô
Massive air displacement from the collapse?
''They become resistant to antibiotics, we eat them, and we become resistant, too.
el'
That's not how it works.
Why is WaPo making endorsements in a connecticut senate race?
There's a huge population in the states that simply isn't healthy enough to fight off a bacteria that healthy people wouldn't even notice.
And another section that's been exposed to antibacterials from birth, fucking up their immune systems.
thks UncaSmokes; 'Felicity Kendal starred in two short lived series The Mistress and Solo which were tailored for her talents and most recently she co-starred in the murder mystery Rosemary & Thyme. She became something of a sex symbol with her tomboy character, often wearing iconic wellington boots on the show.'
Dunno that wellington boots are the sex symbol I was looking for, but I'll try anything once.
No, the Bush administration didn't slam planes into buildings... they merely left the door open, provoked mad dogs, and sat back and watched while we were attacked.
This has benn my supposition since about a week after the attack.
Just view the video like I did. It's all explained there.
Ô¿Ô
The Path to 9-11 explains how it was all the Democrats fault, too.
Can I interest you in a bridge?
And let's not forget hormones. Corn, oil, antibiotics and hormones = American food supply.
So growth hormone has anything to do with why Americans are fat, or is that just McDonalds? And why so many teenagers have big boobs, both males and females?
Why is WaPo making endorsements in a connecticut senate race?
Joe buys lunch.
(It is an August editorial, btw. Today's WaPo sniffiness is directed towards Chavez.)
Massive air displacement from the collapse?
JR
Just view the video. They were blown out with fireman walking around on the broken glass over half an hour before the WTC came down.
And another section that's been exposed to antibacterials from birth, fucking up their immune systems.
pseudonymous in nc
It doesn't exactly "fuck up" the immune system, as much as it doesn't allow the immune system to develop it's own responses.
Oh, there's an explanation for everything. Of course.
So growth hormone has anything to do with why Americans are fat, or is that just McDonalds?
Nah, that's corn. The Omnivore's Dilemma goes into some detail about it. As a fillip to the corn-growers, the US places import tariffs on sugar, meaning that many confectioners either switch to HFCS or move out of the US.
And because the Iowa caucuses come first, the corn lobby continues to get fed. Corn ethanol is the latest boondoggle.
This video lays it all out including facts that the WTC was increasingly vacant of tenets and a financial loser for the Port Authority
The Port Authority owned the buildings but leased the property out as an entirety. Their lease would have been unaffected by vacancy. Larry Silverstein acquired the leasehold in July 2001.
JR, the thugs have to keep attention off the 3rd world country they're turning the US into and its HARD WORK.
Michael Massing at HuffPo
"For one of the articles that I did for The New York Review, I was like an anthropologist going out into a foreign land and listening in to those raving right-wing talk shows. It was extraordinary what I learned about how these shows worked, about what they're saying. You can see how the perceptions of many people in America are molded by them. So I think there should be much better coverage of that. That would be one way, in a sense, of documenting the excesses of what gets aired. I heard Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, and Michael Savage say things that made my jaw drop, because of their ugliness, inaccuracy, or extremity. It would be great if the Times had a regular column or some reporter covering that world."
They were blown out with fireman walking around on the broken glass over half an hour before the WTC came down.
Fireballs went down the elevator shafts, came out at ground level.
It doesn't exactly "fuck up" the immune system, as much as it doesn't allow the immune system to develop it's own responses.
JR, kerosene and a match
Everyday, drop a little food on the ground, then pick it back up and eat it.
Tell your kids: "Yes, put that in your mouth! You don't know where it's been!"
Sound advice for a healthier America.
Want to know what went wrong with the spinach?
Drive down Highway 5.
When you get to Fresno, roll down your window.
Finish vomiting, and roll the window up REAL QUICK!
Feel free to call me names as you pull over to vomit some more.
Now you know. For the last few years, in SoCal they've been seeing health problems normally associated with rural India, caused by fecal particulants in the air. The water table across the lower half of the state is, like our govenator, fulla shit.
It doesn't exactly "fuck up" the immune system, as much as it doesn't allow the immune system to develop it's own responses.
So rather, it is fucking up the system of the immune system?
were blown out with fireman walking around on the broken glass over half an hour before the WTC came down.
Ô¿Ô
And parts of a building collapse long before the final event. There was glass blown out of the upper floors during the initial strike.
Think about this... if they blew the structure at the bottom that long before the collapse, then why didn't it collapse then and why did the collapse start from the strike area, and not the bottom?
You can see how the perceptions of many people in America are molded by them. So I think there should be much better coverage of that.
Atrios has said it before, but there's this hear-no-wingnut-evil thing from the press and cabloids. They'll bring on the wingnut radio types as 'analysts', but never make reference to the things they actually say on the air.
It's odd: perhaps it's because you can read a blog whenever you like, and it doesn't take as long to scan a post, but the guardians of the meedja act as if they have never scanned the AM dial, nor are aware of how many people parrot what they hear on talk radio.
Of course, they know all that. They just don't want to deal with it.
UncaSmokes link; 'A person who incites another to a crime will become a member of a ***conspiracy *** if agreement is reached, and may then be considered an accessory or a joint principal if the crime is eventually committed.'
I'm plotting a Dem takeover, please join in.
So rather, it is fucking up the system of the immune system?
Nancy Willing
It's more like fucking up the rest of the system by not training the immune system.
Now, this is not to say that antibiotics shouldn't be prescribed at all, but they shouldn't be handed out like candy, either.
Tell your kids: "Yes, put that in your mouth! You don't know where it's been!"
Sound advice for a healthier America.
Well, allowing kids to play in the dirt (as long as dogs haven't been crapping there) is better than keeping them in sanitised bubbles. I've lost count of the number of times my wife has been laid low with some minor virus or bug, and I've been fine.
Kids are great disease vectors.
'I've lost count of the number of times my wife has been laid low with some minor virus or bug, and I've been fine.
pseudonymous in nc '
is this your way of telling us you play in the dirt or what?
report from the heartland | 09.24.06 - 8:12 am |
How to report on the dumbing down of America. This segment was big enough to vote Geo Bush into office. Coverage to well heeled liberals won't change it.
Who funds and feeds the press to preach to it, that's another story.
Dirt generally doesn't have a lot of bacteria that can hurt you in it.
Tetanus comes to mind, though.
JIK; 'When you get to Fresno, roll down your window.
Finish vomiting, and roll the window up REAL QUICK!'
Visits to Denver and LA produced a stinging sensation in my skin, too. We're going to have to get back to regulation of pollution because we're killing ourselves.
Bushco has made journalistic bias a small business, (over two $billion served)
just like the faithfully paid-off industry of religioneers.
I'm plotting a Dem takeover, please join in.
Ruth, revolted
Shall we toss cherry bombs into the DLC toilets?
[Technically speaking, I think I have just committed a crime.]
NYT Letter to the editor:
Russ Feingold
US; 'Shall we toss cherry bombs into the DLC toilets?'
Do you prefer the electrical cords or the waterboard?
/NSA
To the Editor:
John Yoo, a former deputy assistant attorney general in the Bush administration, acknowledges that President Bush’s unique approach to the law, which the president has insisted is necessary to fight terrorism, is motivated by the “broader’’ goal of strengthening executive power (Op-Ed, Sept. 17).
Mr. Yoo cites this goal as a reason the administration has fought a “pre-emptive’’ war, “data-mined communications in the United States to root out terrorism,’’ detained terrorists without “formal’’ charges and conducted “harsh’’ interrogations.
The agenda includes the reclassification of government information and the withholding of information from Congress and the courts, and has been buttressed by the president’s “signing statements,’’ which Mr. Yoo asserts claim the president’s right not to enforce “unconstitutional’’ laws.
In our system of government, it is the courts that determine the constitutionality of laws, not the president.
But Mr. Yoo takes his argument further, asserting that the president can ignore laws like the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act because they have produced “dysfunction.’’ Indeed, according to Mr. Yoo, the president can ignore both laws and judicial decisions that he deems “wrongheaded’’ or “obsolete.’’
These views are clearly offensive to our constitutional system. It is long past time for Congress to reassert its proper role in checking an executive branch that has so little respect for the principles that have sustained our democracy for more than 200 years.
Russ Feingold
U.S. Senator from Wisconsin
Washington, Sept. 19, 2006
This will the the type of political commentary that will turn George Costanza against the Bush Administration
portia's link; 'It is long past time for Congress to reassert its proper role in checking an executive branch that has so little respect for the principles that have sustained our democracy for more than 200 years.
Russ Feingold'
And it's time to work for progressives, and vote out the criminal element that has enabled the cretin in chief.
It is long past time for Congress to reassert its proper role...
Sorry, Russ, with gerrymandering the Congress has a new role of yes man to the president.
DLC has consumed my state's DEM party whole.
A few DE bloggers are outdoing each other to report the tarriff reduction bills presented by Castle-R and Carper-D that support the AGro chemicals industry (cheap pesticides to sell to farmers who buy the pesticide-resistant seed strains).
el
you are correct. I may be alone of all my friends to have listened to Rush and company-- no one outside my bubble has ever heard the hatred and lies that pour out of talk radio all day and all of the night because we don't drive or stay home with the kids all day-- it is a jaw-dropping phenom that, as you say, elected W
attaturk link; sad when the best political commentary is on the sports page, indeed.
Morning, rational people.
Making friends the hard way.
US detained Venezuelan Foreign Minister.
BBC linkage
Do you prefer the electrical cords or the waterboard?
/NSA
Ruth, revolted
Ah, choices! The hallmark of democracy!
"Hmmmm, let's see. I'll take the electrodes on the testicles, followed by a feeding tube forced up my nose, and let's finish with a mock execution. Please, tell them to go easy on the fake menstrual blood."
Is it proper etiquette to tip the torturer?
signing off to get my homework finished
Is anyone ever going to mention that Lieberman's piety is as fake as he is?
How the heck can an orthodox Jew, who can't answer a phone or turn on a light from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday, hold his office? Either his service to our country has to be inadequate, or he's into some pretty fakey orthodoxy.
Ok, this guy sucks dogballs, time to find out who owns him. Be right back with the dirt.
'Is it proper etiquette to tip the torturer?
Uncle Smokes'
if you'd tipped him off before he started, maybe. heh
Ruth, I thought about you yesterday as I selected the subject for my Bonus Critter Blogging.
Alan: Why are all the mirrors covered?
Arnold: So we don't see the pain in our faces.
Alan: Why is everyone sitting on boxes?
Arnold: To make sure there's pain in our faces.
Ma: [in an undertone] You told me he was Jewish!
Arnold: Out-of-town Jewish.
-- Matthew Broderick, Harvey Fierstein, and Anne Bancroft, Torch Song Trilogy
lovely, Diane, and I love WT's comment, too.
is this your way of telling us you play in the dirt or what?
Once upon a time: I am, after all, a filthy foreigner.
Germolene and TCP as a kid for cuts and scrapes, not Neosporin (antibiotic ointments aren't really used back home); and the ideal of antibacterial shopping carts and baskets is just bizarre to me.
FROM:
http://www.opensecrets.org/polit...mmary.asp?
CID=N
00000616
CAREER PROFILE (SINCE 1989)
Joe Lieberman
1989-2006 Total Receipts: $37,161,796
1989-2006 Total Spent: $33,624,807
Debts: $0
Date of last report: July 31, 2006
Source of Funds:
Individual contributions $27,553,927 (74%)
PAC contributions $3,882,139 (10%)
Candidate self-financing $2,000 (0%)
Other $1,455,933 (4%)
PAC Contribution Breakdown:
Business $2,952,703 (75.6%)
Labor $430,897 (11.0%)
Ideological/Single Issue $521,072 (13.3%)
Why does God hate the American Midwest?
Ruth, I thought about you yesterday as I selected the subject for my Bonus Critter Blogging.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Good heavens, I've got an aunt who looks like that.
[Little annoying voice in my head: "And you will, too, soon enough!"]
O Genetics, you are a harsh cosmetologist!
lovely, Diane, and I love WT's comment, too.
Ruth, revolted
I laughed too when I saw WT's response.
FROM:
http://www.opensecrets.org
CAREER PROFILE (SINCE 1989) Joe Lieberman
1989-2006 Total Receipts: $37,161,796
1989-2006 Total Spent: $33,624,807
Debts: $0
Date of last report: July 31, 2006
Source of Funds:Individual contributions $27,553,927 (74%) PAC contributions $3,882,139 (10%) Candidate self-financing $2,000 (0%) Other $1,455,933 (4%)
PAC Contribution Breakdown: Business $2,952,703 (75.6%) Labor $430,897 (11.0%) Ideological/Single Issue $521,072 (13.3%)
'the ideal of antibacterial shopping carts and baskets is just bizarre to me.
pseudonymous in nc '
Hey, I'm from the south, cough syrup was whiskey in honey.
Don't put that in your mouth, you don't know where it's been [a la mom]!
If you know it's been in the toilet, that makes it all right.
Germolene and TCP as a kid for cuts and scrapes, not Neosporin
i agree (although i just woke up)...apparently copper has been found to kill staph bacteria as well as other infections...don't know where it is going, but what they need to do is make doorknobs and other unsanitary items out of copper/copper alloys that still have the ability to block and kill bacteria
FROM:
http://www.opensecrets.org
CAREER PROFILE (SINCE 1989) Joe Lieberman
Top Contributors:
1 United Technologies $189,650
2 Citigroup Inc $159,746
3 Lehman Brothers $155,050
4 Hartford Financial Services $101,950
5 Aetna Inc $96,118
6 Goldman Sachs $94,250
7 Purdue Pharma $84,500
8 UBS Americas $84,050
9 Merrill Lynch $73,650
10 Pfizer Inc $72,540
11 Greenwich Capital Markets $71,250
12 Irell & Manella $69,200
13 Guardsmark Inc $67,525
14 Sempra Energy $60,050
15 General Electric $57,585
16 Richman Group $56,400
17 American International Group $54,800
18 General Dynamics $52,300
19 Time Warner $51,650
20 Bear Stearns $50,216
By INDUSTRY:
1 Lawyers/Law Firms $3,142,444 2 Securities & Investment $2,402,813 3 Real Estate $2,055,519 4 Retired $1,352,496 5 Pro-Israel $876,388 6 Insurance $830,577 7 Misc Finance $825,370 8 Health Professionals $816,402 9 Business Services $699,404 10 Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $511,586 11 Misc Business $495,099 12 Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $438,740 13 Computers/Internet $388,341 14 Education $387,897 15 Retail Sales $374,050 16 Commercial Banks $339,077 17 Defense Aerospace $333,485 18 TV/Movies/Music $327,550 19 Hospitals/Nursing Homes $301,400 20 Lobbyists $297,635
'[Little annoying voice in my head: "And you will, too, soon enough!"]'
If you'd listened harder it would have told you to take that cigarette out of your mouth. 
Joe Lieberman Top Contributors:
1 United Technologies $189,650 2 Citigroup Inc $159,746 3 Lehman Brothers $155,050 4 Hartford Financial Services $101,950 5 Aetna Inc $96,118 6 Goldman Sachs $94,250 7 Purdue Pharma $84,500 8 UBS Americas $84,050 9 Merrill Lynch $73,650 10 Pfizer Inc $72,540 11 Greenwich Capital Markets $71,250 12 Irell & Manella $69,200 13 Guardsmark Inc $67,525 14 Sempra Energy $60,050 15 General Electric $57,585 16 Richman Group $56,400 17 American International Group $54,800 18 General Dynamics $52,300 19 Time Warner $51,650 20 Bear Stearns $50,216
'Why does God hate the American Midwest?
Moe Szyslak'
It's a Ziionista plot.
Sorry, Russ, with gerrymandering the Congress has a new role of yes man to the president.
This has probably already been posted and discussed, but the republican-controlled Congress has definitely ceded all power to the Executive branch. I'm not sure what can be done, but something has to be. This from a Dennis Kucinich email:
Earlier this year, I demanded congressional hearings on Iran and was able to
secure the promise of a classified briefing from the Department of Defense,
the State Department and the CIA. When the briefing was held, the Department
of Defense and the State Department refused to show and are continuing to
block any congressional inquiry into plans to attack Iran.
They refused to show up. Incredible.
You know, I can understand how someone could have their laptop stolen or misplaced, especially if he or she is a regular business traveler, but hundreds of laptops missing from one government agency?
From AP
The Census Bureau collects the most personal information about Americans, from how much money they earn and where they spend it to how they live and die. It's all confidential - as long as no one steals it.
Lost or stolen from the Census Bureau since 2003 are 217 laptop computers, 46 portable data storage devices and 15 handheld devices used by survey takers.
What is up with that?
don't know where it is going, but what they need to do is make doorknobs and other unsanitary items out of copper/copper alloys that still have the ability to block and kill bacteria,
While I'm not sure about the antibiotic properties of copper, the idea behind shiny metal doorknobs and the like (steel, brass, etc.) is that dirt and bacteria can't get a grasp on the surface.
'Bear Stearns $50,216
JIK '
They'd better do better or they'll have their rent raised.
If you'd listened harder it would have told you to take that cigarette out of your mouth.
Ruth, revolted
That's what I love about our society. Even though my mother's ten years gone, I can always find another one to give me my guilt fix.
I should get married.
'They refused to show up. Incredible.
pie'
Used to be something called Contempt of Congress. I guess if you prosecuted anyone for it, you'd have to slap the US public in jail too.
Joe Lieberman Top Contributors:
never liked joe...when he ran for preznit and when gore picked him for VP, i was like, WTF...why do people think droopy is a good candidate...he ain't done shit for our state but cater to special interests (sub base personnel are special interests)...and every fucking incumbent is saying they saved the fucking base...bah - that shit is lame!
but then again i am a real progressive, not a fake one like most dems
America, take back your country, starting with Washington DC. If they steal this election, we have no alternative.
They refused to show up. Incredible.
pie
Noice. Even if the Dems take over one or both parts of Congress, the executive will continue to resist any efforts to investigate it. It will make the stonewalling Nixon pulled seem minor, I imagine.
But, first things first. Got to get control of something or it's a moot point.
HOw are you this am, dear one?
Wake up Atrios. Dammit, you got a blog to run here. We go-getters have been up since 6:30.
Diane, that article reminds me of the report not a month ago that the Pentagon was selling off public property at bargain basement prices, investigators ordered it off their official sales website.
'Even though my mother's ten years gone, I can always find another one to give me my guilt fix.'
It's my duty as a citizen to warn you of your imminent comeuppance. [extra points for mother tongue language.]
on copper from wikipedia (knew i wasn't still dreaming in my wake up state
As a biostatic surface in hospitals, and to line parts of ships to protect against barnacles and mussels, originally used pure, but superseded by Muntz Metal. Bacteria will not grow on a copper surface because it is biostatic. Copper doorknobs are used by hospitals to reduce the transfer of disease, and Legionnaire's Disease is suppressed by copper tubing in air-conditioning systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper
I could definitely be better. Hanging in there.
mogwai, do you take commissions from the copper bracelet folks? Maybe copper nailpolish next.
"America, take back your country, starting with Washington DC. If they steal this election, we have no alternative."
Very noble sentiment, grandly overstated, and inspirational but incorrect. I already toldja, we start with work strikes. We should be asking all loyal americans to take a sick day on election day. If they steal the election, we wait to go back to work until after they recant and fuckoff. If they don't we quietly go back to work, and come April, we tell them we can't afford them any more - then we send our tax money to our state governments.
Mr.Jefferson told us that when our government in its abuses surpasses our ability to tolerate those abuses, we're obligated to remove that government. We've long since reached that point. While violence isn't required to remove them, remove them we must. They have to stand trial for their crimes.
They refused to show up. Incredible.
pie
and the pentagon has been under court order for the past couple of years to release abu ghraib docs but has refused -- with absolutely no consequences. astonishing lawlessness.
if the republic does survive bush (and i am not certain it will), people will look back at this period in jaw-dropping stupefication at the literal corruption and moral and ethical bankruptcy of all leading institutions of this country -- the press, the courts, congress, the executive -- and marvel at how easily it happened.
and marvel at how easily it happened.
And in such a short period of time, although they'd been working toward the goal for a long time.
It's my duty as a citizen to warn you of your imminent comeuppance. [extra points for mother tongue language.]
Ruth, revolted
"Something had happened. A thing which, years ago, had been the eagerest hope of many, many good citizens of the town, and now it had come at last; George Amberson Minafer had got his comeuppance. He got it three times filled, and running over. But those who had so longed for it were not there to see it, and they never knew it. Those who were still living had forgotten all about it and all about him."
-- Orson Welles (via Booth Tarkington), The Magnificent Ambersons
don't know where it is going, but what they need to do is make doorknobs and other unsanitary items out of copper/copper alloys that still have the ability to block and kill bacteria,
While I'm not sure about the antibiotic properties of copper, the idea behind shiny metal doorknobs and the like (steel, brass, etc.) is that dirt and bacteria can't get a grasp on the surface.
billy b
Not to mention the fact that copper tarnish, which would not have the same antibacterial properties and would form in about a day, will pit the surface and give bugs purchase.
And copper does nothing for arthitis, either. I guess people have to have their magic talismans.
Bacteria will not grow on a copper surface because it is biostatic. Copper doorknobs are used by hospitals to reduce the transfer of disease, and Legionnaire's Disease is suppressed by copper tubing in air-conditioning systems.,
Interesting. Brass, which contains copper and zinc (which also exhibits antimicrobial properties), has always been a good choice also.
Back in the 1980s there was big push to have everyone stop using wooden chopping boards and to go out and buy acrylic ones on the theory that you could keep the acrylic boards cleaner. Then it turned out that there was something in the wood that killed salmonella (or some bacteria associated with raw chicken) so it was recommended that we all go out and buy wooden boards again. I wouldn't depend on the wood entirely to do the job, but it is interesting.
I used to work with a woman who wore gloves year round and would never touch a banister or hand strap in the subway without them. I almost started down that route when I saw a homeless person using the hand rail, then stopped myself figuring if I've lived this long without catching some dreadful disease from using public handrails I'll probably live a bit longer.
JIK, about 50% of us work for ourselves or good friends. A work stoppage wouldn't do a bit of good. Get out and work hard for progressives, now. Later, if it doesn't work out, we might go another route.
I could definitely be better. Hanging in there.
pie
Well, my thoughts are with you and yours. Not that that helps much, but just the same...
Highya, Folks. Got to pursue one of my favorite loves the past few days... salmon and steelhead fishing in the streams. I haven't been healthy enough in 4-5 years to go, and it's really depressed me greatly - not being able to don the chest waders and wade amongst those beautiful fish.
I spent a good 6-8 hours in the river each day (except for Wed when I arrived), hooked a Steelhead for a brief moment (not an unusual occurance - ask any Steelhead fisherman), and managed to come home with a pair of nice King Salmon fillets from the 14 lb female I landed Saturday morning around 0730. She was ripe full of eggs, which I harvested for spawn bags to tie for next weeks fishing trip.
Next weeks trip will be a 6-8 hour float raft trip down the fabled Pere Marquette River... drift fishing for Steelies, Salmon & football sized Brown trout. So, If y'all don't see me around much this coming week - that's where I'll be.
Maybe I'll be lucky enough to feed those coming to see Feral Liberal in a couple weeks fresh Salmon & Trout.
I recommend not holding your breath tho. The fishing pressure is really high right now, and the streams are getting beaten to death with fishing pressure.
Once upon a time: I am, after all, a filthy foreigner.
Germolene and TCP as a kid for cuts and scrapes, not Neosporin (antibiotic ointments aren't really used back home); and the ideal of antibacterial shopping carts and baskets is just bizarre to me.
pseudonymous in nc
Yeah, but you didn't move to a third world country. The Busheviks may be turning it in to one by cutting Food Inspections and Environmental protections, but no one will mistake North Carolina for the jungles of Peru or Laos.
You should have seen the sterilisation routines here during the SARS outbreak.
Thanks, billy b.
I already toldja, we start with work strikes. We should be asking all loyal americans to take a sick day on election day.
and if you give the 'movement' a cool name like..."flash-mob"...maybe the youths will join in - it is they who have the energy and vigor and lack responsibility that change is poitive for them
Brass doesn't oxidize as quickly as copper, either.
Wood contains *some* anti-bacterial properties, and if you keep it cleaned and oiled it is much better all around.
US; use of the word in a sentence - check.
Next word; schadenfreude. [that'll show him].
Bet Fred's up and all ready wanking
Thanks, billy b.
pie
XXX OOO XXX.
Back in about 45. Got to go lift the weights.
pie
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Only a commie traitor would say to overthrow the goverment of America! I am reporting you to Homeland security. I hope they put you in Gitmo and hammer you a bunch. You librils are all fags and traiters who hate Christians and America.
mogwai, do you take commissions from the copper bracelet folks? Maybe copper nailpolish next.
Ruth, revolted
Wouldn't that turn your nails green?
Divine decadence!
Ack. Don't ask, ql.
mogwai, do you take commissions from the copper bracelet folks?
LOL..nah, i found out that in a reasearch lab my friend works, they were testing how to kill staph, and they found out that copper would do the trick albeit slowly...and even tarnished copper has the property to kill bacteria
Only a commie traitor would say to overthrow the goverment of America!
goosestepping on the constitution
the problem with change is that the most ignorant have the most changing to do
He's awake!
Saddam during happier times.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/DJDkk015.jpg
pie, you didn't eat the spinach didja?
Barndog, good to hear you're up to the fishing this year.
Thhis makes me laugh;
'Federal health officials said Thursday that more explicit labeling was just one proposal under consideration for allowing fresh spinach back on the market. Others include stepped-up regulation of how spinach is grown and processed.'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6092100157.html
WARNING; spinach has been known to cause vomiting and death when subjected to voluntary compliance.
afternoon moonbats
Who scrubs the trolls while A man sleeps?
"JIK, about 50% of us work for ourselves or good friends."
Broaden your scope, Ruth. If "us" means the people on this blog, then you might be right, but to me "us" (in this context) means all americans. If they don't all read the blog, you'll have to talk to the ones that don't. Get started, please.
"Get out and work hard for progressives, now. Later, if it doesn't work out, we might go another route."
Been working for progressives for over thirty years. Be afraid not to, I think if you don't, they kick you out of town. I'm from Berkeley.
box turtles, my friends.
I've lived this long without catching some dreadful disease from using public handrails I'll probably live a bit longer.
ql in ny appalled
"Well, as my tutor, Old Bubbleface used to say, 'Make love and be merry, for tomorrow you may catch some disgusting skin disease.'"
-- Prince Edmund (Rowan Atikinson), The Black Adder
and they found out that copper would do the trick albeit slowly...and even tarnished copper has the property to kill bacteria
mogwai
Of course, that doesn't help an infection...
You've obviously never had to polish copper and brass. The thought of the human hours wasted if copper/brass were promoted as "sterile" makes me shudder. Let's leave it as a "trade secret"... washing varnished steel is a metric buttload easier.
Who scrubs the trolls while A man sleeps?
Nancy Willing
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Yah, Ruth... wife's a little whiney about me taking off fishing after all the festivals this summer.
I had to explain that - since the procedures on my back this summer, which have given me back so much mobility without the excruciating pain... I told her that I have to take all the advantage I can of these opportunities while I can.
Might be next month, week...tommorrow - that maybe I won't be able too again for another 4-5 years - or again for that matter. Hell if I know what the next minute holds. I've been around enough to take the chances while I can - provided they won't end up with me dead, looking out.
That's a young man's game there.
"It's a script that counts the number of line breaks"
Aw damn, I HATE that friggin' thing!!!! It plays havoc with reposting from Open Secrets, my all time favorite website.
My father taught me when I was very young to pay close attention to what everyone says, then ignore it all completely, and follow the money. Open Secrets does it for us, all we have to do is look. In fact, it gives us the keys to every race, if we know how to use it. Pick the worst crimes of the companies in question, particularly those directly against the constituents of the politician being discussed, and make those crimes known to the district in question. Be sure to tie the voting record of the politician to the industry or company that owns them.
staying indoors all the time gives me thin skin
This one time? I got all this cheese on me? And it was really scary. And I ran and ran. And then I fell down and got leaves on me.
George Bush must die.
Everyone must, it's a rule.
But he should die first so we can all watch.
"But he should die first so we can all watch."
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Used to be I'd have barfed at the idea of a televised execution, and it still sickens me. BUT... if he were to heave a stroke or heart attack and keel, and it wuz televised, that'd be sweet!
Huh. Seems like 6 years ago, I was a much nicer person. Go figure.
Humans are fascinated with death. We hunt. We like to think of it as a challenge...an us vs. nature thing. But it's not us vs. nature. It's a deer vs. death, and we are just the deliverer of the Reaper's message.
How many people watched the "Death of Steve Irwin" (fake video claiming to contain Steve Irwin's "gruesome" death)? By last count, on Google Video, the hit counter was over 3 million.
We love to see people die. It's a strange urge. If you saw a man lying dead on the streets, you would have no choice but to stare in disbelief.
We are getting closer and closer to televised execution. We read in the newspapers about how a prisoner was executed, how long it took, what his last meal was, what his final words were, and the exact time that his heart beat for one final moment.
It will happen in our lifetime. If another McVeigh comes along in the next 20 years, be ready for a public execution.
But, please, do not overlook this. What we do now is disgusting, but this is something we cannot just remain seated for. At the least, I won't be sitting down when that time comes.
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