I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarhey ya'll


GravatarI think I've seen that movie before.

You're soaking in it!


GravatarWonder what MAF54 is doing right now


GravatarBattlestar Shitstorm...


GravatarRIP, Buck O'Neil.


GravatarGO TIGERS!!!

(Sorry, HBK)


GravatarWonder what MAF54 is doing right now

IM him, and let us know if he replies.


GravatarIs Gaius a Toaster?


GravatarMaf54: What would you like me to be doing?


GravatarPresident Guyus Beinart


GravatarIs Gaius a Toaster?

Gaius W. Baltar: Worst. President of the 12 Colonies. Ever.


GravatarMaf54 (7:48:00 PM): did you spank it this weekend yourself

Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:04 PM): no

Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:16 PM): been too tired and too busy

Maf54 (7:48:33 PM): wow…

Maf54 (7:48:34 PM): i am never to busy haha

Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:51 PM): haha

Maf54 (7:50:02 PM): or tired..helps me sleep


GravatarAny Bay Areaians interested in helping with the anti-Pombo effort in Stockon/Tracy tomorrow?


GravatarMAF54 watching GOP implode


GravatarOne-time Social Security phase-out maven, Rep. Tom Reynolds (R-NY) sends out a flyer accusing his opponent of wanting to deep six Social Security. Anything to change the subject from Foley, I guess.

Flippity floppity.


GravatarGoodnight, moonbats.

Have fun!


GravatarBFG2000 Blogging!
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GravatarMaf54 (7:53:45 PM): in your shorts and polo shirt?

Teen Male: (7:54:06 PM): no athletic shorts and t shirt…had soccer practice today

Maf54 (7:54:15 PM): ummm nice

Maf54 (7:54:30 PM): jock strap too

Teen Male: (7:54:41 PM): not in soccer

Teen Male: (7:54:42 PM): lol

Maf54 (7:55:09 PM): what do you wear then

Teen Male: (7:55:20 PM): just our boxers and shorts

Maf54 (7:55:34 PM): good

Teen Male: (7:55:37 PM): lol

Maf54 (7:55:42 PM): shows your package then

Teen Male: (8:33:29 PM): ya slow things down a little im still young…like under 18 dont want to do anything illegal…im not 18 till feb 23

Maf54Maf54 (8:33:43 PM): i know..

Maf54 (8:33:50 PM): nothing will happen

Maf54 (8:34:04 PM): just dreaming


GravatarRun!

Don't look back.

Run!

(Jammer's last words to Denny Hastert, but it took most of the episode for the sweaty wrestler to make it out of the frame.)


GravatarEwwwwwwwwww!

http://www.comcast.net/news/ stra...teacherarrested


GravatarWonder what MAF54 is doing right now
gadaddy


Listening to Michael Jackson CDs?


GravatarMaf54 (7:53:45 PM): in your shorts and polo shirt?
Teen Male: (7:54:06 PM): no athletic shorts and t shirt…had soccer practice today
Maf54 (7:54:15 PM): ummm nice
Maf54 (7:54:30 PM): jock strap too
Teen Male: (7:54:41 PM): not in soccer
Teen Male: (7:54:42 PM): lol
Maf54 (7:55:09 PM): what do you wear then
Teen Male: (7:55:20 PM): just our boxers and shorts
Maf54 (7:55:34 PM): good
Teen Male: (7:55:37 PM): lol
Maf54 (7:55:42 PM): shows your package then
Teen Male: (8:33:29 PM): ya slow things down a little im still young…like under 18 dont want to do anything illegal…im not 18 till feb 23
Maf54Maf54 (8:33:43 PM): i know..
Maf54 (8:33:50 PM): nothing will happen
Maf54 (8:34:04 PM): just dreaming


GravatarI'm watching the repeat now since I missed the initial showing. Damn.


GravatarWow-I'm divorced from this area of geekery, if it's geekery. How about a post on Robert Bresson or jean-Luc Godard?


GravatarRep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) is the jerk who's defending Bush and his war on Maher and she's really getting on my last nerve.

Robin Williams is cracking me up.


GravatarChris/TX | 10.06.06 - 11:47 pm | #\

Is that for real? I never had such juvenile sex talk, no matter how juvenile.


Gravatarheh, just back from notEschacon II. What a lovely group of peeps.


GravatarOh, fuck - Maher has Tweety on.

Now, we'll really hear the apologia for the Bush Regime!


GravatarListening to Sean Hannity this afternoon having an outta body experience over Foley almost gave me one. He kept saying NAMBLA, NAMBLA, NAMBLA.


Gravatarql in ny: heh, just back from notEschacon II. What a lovely group of peeps.

Was there bacon?
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GravatarMaher: Do people think you're a liberal or a conservative?

Tweety: Oh, that's tough.


WTF?


GravatarListening to Sean Hannity this afternoon having an outta body experience over Foley almost gave me one. He kept saying NAMBLA, NAMBLA, NAMBLA.
Ô¿Ô


Everytime I hear Hannity, I keep saying "Asshole, Asshole, Asshole!"


GravatarI'm watching the repeat now since I missed the initial showing. Damn.
BlakNo1 | 10.06.06 - 11:47 pm | #


I'm watching it again. The best show on TV.


GravatarMatthews is SO full of shit.


GravatarJP - No bacon.

Lots of beer and good vibes

I love Athenae.


GravatarTweety disses Billo.


Gravatar"Barton was referring to Democratic Reps. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts and Dan Crane of Illinois, both of whom were censured after having sexual relationships with 17-year-old pages. Crane lost his re-election bid, while Studds survived the scandal."

Mind control - best availble explanation.
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GravatarMaher: Do people think you're a liberal or a conservative?

Tweety: Oh, that's tough.


WTF?
JT | 10.06.06 - 11:54 pm | #


What, that's our choices? Where's 'fucking idiot?'


Gravatarhave i posted this yet?

http://myspace.com/butchercapone


GravatarDraco - Yes, real. Just a cut 'n paste.


GravatarHe kept saying NAMBLA in a way I thought his head was going to pop outta my car radio.


GravatarRequest a retraction from CNN.


GravatarAlso, the best available.
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GravatarMaher just commented on Allen's stupidity.


GravatarHe kept saying NAMBLA, NAMBLA, NAMBLA.

Does Hannity watch South Park?


Gravatarql in ny: Lots of beer and good vibes

My kind o' place!

I love Athenae.

I love all you warped puppies. I wish there was some reason for a mass gathering in Gnashvegas.
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GravatarWhy isn't the question to Republicans "Why were you trying to cover this up until after the elections"?


GravatarMaf54 (8:34:04 PM): just dreaming
Chris/TX


is dr. laura is twisting this around to blame democrats too? or ignoring the story all together?


GravatarA phrase I bet you don't hear much in Republican circles these days...

"Are we on the same page?"


GravatarI love Athenae.

Did she attempt to commandeer a TV?


GravatarJames Baker is educational on Charlie Rose.
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GravatarNow what's this about Foley fucking Saddam in his spider hole?


GravatarHi Incog--When do you think you might be home?


GravatarTweety kisses Macaca Man's ass all the time on "No Balls", but he's trashing him here.


Robin Williams is out of his fucking mind.


GravatarThe Republican Party: Blame, Deny, LIE!


Gravataris dr. laura is twisting this around to blame democrats too? or ignoring the story all together?
jello


Well, if you're gonna do the one, you pretty much have to do the other, ennit?


GravatarAbout 2am my time.


GravatarA phrase I bet you don't hear much in Republican circles these days...

"Are we on the same page?"
Elmer, PHD




GravatarWell, I don't love Gary Ruppert, mouthbreather, but that goes without saying, right?
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Gravatar"If there's cheating (on Election Day), it'll be both ways."

- Tweety

Is he fucking kidding?


GravatarIn other news, is anyone taking note that Condi completely fucked up the London Iran talks by being late due to her "SURPRISE!" visit to Iraq?


GravatarPeace, batses. I'm to sleep.


GravatarWell, I don't love Gary Ruppert, mouthbreather, but that goes without saying, right?
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Jeffraham Prestonian



It wouldn't surprise me.


Gravatargays this gays that..... well there was this one time I was dancing at the Lesbian Bar....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...related& search=


GravatarHelp me! Delta decided to fuck with me today and I just got here.


GravatarTweety is so stupid he doesn't know what an e-voting paper trail is.


GravatarI don't get NAMBLA at all--I haven't liked boys and teens since I was a boy or teen


GravatarWho was there?

Res, WT, NTodd (barely with pants), Ridichrome (sp?), Uncle Smokes, Feral Liberal, Spork, Athenae, Simels ( I kissed before Mr. QL arrived), jawbone ( a beauty), Bink, Gummo, Mrs. Gummo,

Aw fuck it, I can't remember who all. But lots of really great liberals.

People took pictures.


Gravatardave™©,

Headed for Tracy or Stockton tomorrow.


GravatarThe Republican Party: It's NEVER Our Fault!


GravatarJeffraham: Mwwwwwahahahahaha!

Meanwhile, guess which media outlet was given the Foley e-mails a year ago -- and SAT on them?

Why, FOX, of course!


GravatarIn other news, is anyone taking note that Condi completely fucked up the London Iran talks by being late due to her "SURPRISE!" visit to Iraq?

Russian minister basically said he had other priorities and could not wait. First she could'nt land, and then had some problem leaving. Her best effort this week was with the I/P situation when she told them they should all just get along.


GravatarTo be honest I miss New England...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...related& search=


GravatarI hope to contact you Incog--I feel I was quite inadequite talking last night. I'll be better


GravatarSnow, we were looking for you. Mr. QL and i are taking Uncle Smokes on a mini tour of NYC tomorrow. Wanna join us. Feral has to go to the Met.


GravatarOh, and Draco?

Yes, Chris is quoting from actual IMs exchanged by Foley with several different young boys. (One of the exchanges documents Foley having cybersex on the House floor during a vote on Iraq war funding.)


GravatarHeaded for Tracy or Stockton tomorrow.

Sadly, no. Just saw that blurb about the anti-Pombo crusade on Kos a little bit ago. But unfortunately, I have other plans...


GravatarSorry, Condi told the Iraqi's they should all just get along.


Gravataryeah, and fox identified foley as a democrat. no shame.


GravatarStudds brought home the bacon, and was over all a good guy. and folks in Massachusetts, more or less, ain't homophobes. hence, his constituents returned him to Congress, when all the facts came out.


Phil Crane (Republican-JeebusLand) didn't find his constituents so tolerant.

doubt Foley and Shaw's constituentrs are any more or less homphobic than the folks in southeastern MA and Cape Cod. except the fundie Xtians. a higher % in FL than in MA would be my guess, plus a hellaciously higher % of deluded Republican pimp Moms.

live by the homophobic bigot, die by the homophobic bigot


GravatarMeanwhile, guess which media outlet was given the Foley e-mails a year ago -- and SAT on them?

Why, FOX, of course!
- Phoenix Woman

Why, I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!


Gravatarsee fox sat on the emails cause they thought foley was a democrat, and they wanted to be all fair and balanced and everything.


Gravatar"If there's cheating (on Election Day), it'll be both ways."

- Tweety

Is he fucking kidding?
Terry C, Republiphobe


Probably not. Most of the media are trying very hard not to think about electronic voting irregularities.
As far as the run-of-the-mill sort of election skullduggery, well, I'm from up Chicago way, so....


Gravatar
Sadly, no. Just saw that blurb about the anti-Pombo crusade on Kos a little bit ago. But unfortunately, I have other plans...
- dave™©

Save the 21st and 28th.


GravatarWhy, FOX, of course!
Phoenix Woman


oreilly must have gotten hold of the transcripts and wouldnt return them.

"bill! get out of the bathroom already!"


GravatarSnow, we were looking for you. Mr. QL and i are taking Uncle Smokes on a mini tour of NYC tomorrow. Wanna join us. Feral has to go to the Met.

I want to but I just got here. And I am going to the Bronx zoo or Delta will regret it.


Gravatargoodnight batses

have a good weekend!


GravatarRep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) is the jerk who's defending Bush

old cuban anticommunists never grow old, they just grow rich


Gravatari feel so much safer now that the republicans have banned online poker. they have identified the real threat to america, and acted.


Gravatar::matthew: have a good weekend!

I was gonna give you some pointers, if you wanted 'em, on that site...
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GravatarOkay, Snow, we'll meet tomorrow over curry.


GravatarI was gonna give you some pointers, if you wanted 'em, on that site...
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Jeffraham Prestonian


I'm still semi-coherent, whatcha got?


Gravatari feel so much safer now that the republicans have banned online poker. they have identified the real threat to america, and acted.

tone deaf x pi = the Grand Old Perverts


Gravatarmaybe they think it'll make the fundies forget about foley.


GravatarJames Baker is spewing puke on Charlie Rose.

He's a disgusting prick.


GravatarBaker is a smart bastard, but I'm glad he's their smart bastard. Seems like he'd be at ease riding with the Devil.
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GravatarJust to clarify, both of them.


Gravatar::matthew: I'm still semi-coherent, whatcha got?

Well, the navigation. Might you consider having it always "above the fold?"

When I was doing web/GUI usability for the Fortune 500 gig, users always seemed to like the main navigation in one of two places -- left, or top, and always visible.
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GravatarThere's a woman om Tavis Smiley saying Repubs do "microtargeting," a term I'd not heard. It means the Repubs know your income, what church you go to, how many kids you have, etc., call you for that.

Never been microed


GravatarSpeaking of wankers:


"My advice to the commanders in Iraq?
Just stay the course. You're doing great!
If you listen to the liberal media you'd
think we were losing this war!"

-- handjob actor R. Lee Ermey (USAToday)


GravatarOh, so that's what it's called.
----
Yep, Democrat Dan Crane. Clearly a Democrat under the rule that Republicans who diddle congressional pages are transmogrified into Democrats. Like political transubstantiation. - josh marshall
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Perfect!


GravatarOoops!

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert's chief of staff confronted then-Rep. Mark Foley about his inappropriate social contact with male pages well before the speaker said aides in his office took any action, a current congressional staff member with personal knowledge of Foley and his behavior with pages said yesterday.

The staff member said Hastert's chief of staff, Scott Palmer, met with the Florida Republican at the Capitol to discuss complaints about Foley's behavior toward pages. The alleged meeting occurred long before Hastert says aides in his office dispatched Rep. John M. Shimkus (R-Ill.) and the clerk of the House in November 2005 to confront Foley about troubling e-mails he had sent to a Louisiana boy.

The staff member's account buttresses the position of Foley's onetime chief of staff, Kirk Fordham, who said earlier this week that he had appealed to Palmer in 2003 or earlier to intervene, after Fordham's own efforts to stop Foley's behavior had failed. Fordham said Foley and Palmer, one of the most powerful figures in the House of Representatives, met within days to discuss the allegations.

Palmer said this week that the meeting Fordham described "did not happen." Timothy J. Heaphy, Fordham's attorney, said yesterday that Fordham is prepared to testify under oath that he had arranged the meeting and that both Foley and Palmer told him the meeting had taken place. Fordham spent more than three hours with the FBI on Thursday, and Heaphy said that on Friday he contacted the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to offer his client's cooperation.

"We are not preparing to cooperate. We are affirmatively seeking to," Heaphy said...


GravatarDynamicDrive has some really neat-o stuff one can use for building persistent, easy-to-use nav elements, if you didn't already know about 'em. They've saved my bacon several times.
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GravatarRep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) is the jerk who's defending Bush

old cuban anticommunists never grow old, they just grow rich
mrs. ibrahim al-jaafari


And more and more stupid.


Gravatarsimple answers to simple questions:

are there any reporters who are able to resist the mind control powers of Republican talking point bullshit?

the answer is no.

this has been a public service announcement.


GravatarOla, Moonbats. I'm exhausted. Do we have our country back, yet?


GravatarParis Hilton is SUCH a slut!


GravatarBaker is a smart bastard, but I'm glad he's their smart bastard. Seems like he'd be at ease riding with the Devil. - QuentinCompson

I'll take Baker's kind of smart but evil over the incompetence and insanity of Chicken Caesar and the Assclown Posse.


GravatarHecate: Ola, Moonbats. I'm exhausted. Do we have our country back, yet?

I have it in my pocket, as I type!
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Gravatartoo bad these "Dateline" nimnuls never thought to run their little sting operation on the UNITED STATES FUCKING CONGRESS........


GravatarTo clarify about microtargeting, my income is internet and SSI (legally blind), my church and kids are zero. The Repubs have no idea I exist


GravatarI M
I M
I M
I M Superman


GravatarBaker says 41 didn't invade Iraq, but now times have changed so that's why 43 did.

I wonder how much Poppy paid him to say that.


GravatarThe guy who runs Diebold - you know, the one who promised to deliver Ohio to Bush in 2004 - needs to be questioned seriously about his company's voting shenanigans.

I'd suggest waterboarding, myself.


GravatarHey ya, r@d@r!

Long time, no see.


GravatarBaker is a smart bastard, but I'm glad he's their smart bastard. Seems like he'd be at ease riding with the Devil.
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Quentin


is he really? kerry proposed making baker his middle east envoy if he won the presidency.

if this were a real fight, dems would hang baker like an albatross around republicans' neck for defending saudi royals.


GravatarDraco: To clarify about microtargeting, my income is internet and SSI (legally blind), my church and kids are zero. The Repubs have no idea I exist

Would you perhaps be interested in free pizza for a year, then? Just sign up for the pilot of BeastMark™ -- you'll be glad you did!
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GravatarThere's a woman om Tavis Smiley saying Repubs do "microtargeting," a term I'd not heard.

Thats why they have such a good GOTV machine, its why they can win close races even when the Dems have more support.

Say they're going after incumbent Dem X, and X voted for a National Parks bill that included restricting snowmobile access in certain areas, they'd identify all the snowmobilers in X's district and send them fliers saying "DEMOCRAT X VOTED TO BAN SNOWMOBILES! REPUBLICAN Y WILL VOTE AGAINST THAT BAN!" of course the flier wont say that the Republican want to strip mine the entire area...

Multiply that by every vote that X ever made, and they can generate a lot of support for the Republican.


Gravatargod, I hate these fucking people. "Dem" Foley..."Dem" Crane. Subpoenas for Pelosi et al, when ABC has already SAID the tip came from a rethug. I suspect Newtie Baby. Or, hell, Blunt. Or.....

I suppose it's a measure of my deep resistance that after 6+ damned years of this, I retain my ability to be offended, angry.


Gravatarin his spider hole?
Farmer John | 10.06.06 - 11:58 pm


is that what they're calling it these days?


Gravatar(One of the exchanges documents Foley having cybersex on the House floor during a vote on Iraq war funding.)
Phoenix Woman


Our tax dollars at work, folks.


GravatarThe alleged meeting occurred long before Hastert says aides in his office dispatched Rep. John M. Shimkus (R-Ill.) and the clerk of the House in November 2005 to confront Foley

El Toasto. Thursday, COB, at the outside.
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Gravatarmicrotargeting.

What have we fucking done to the language.

Think of the Language!!!


Gravatarquick, everybody, form a protective circle around Jeffraham and his pocket.


GravatarJefferson R-LA


GravatarHecate: quick, everybody, form a protective circle around Jeffraham and his pocket.

Hey! No tickling! Who's doin' the bloody tickling?!?
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GravatarI M
I M
I M
I M Superman



Stoli>>>>>>>> Monitor.


Gravataris this chidy's bday? If so, let me add my own happy returns of the day to her, though I believe she, having good sense, is out and about, celebrating.


GravatarTo clarify about microtargeting, my income is internet and SSI (legally blind), my church and kids are zero. The Repubs have no idea I exist

They use commercial databases, if yu buy stuff, subscribe to magazines, give money to charities or political candidates they know about you.

They only target potential Republican voters, if they figure there's no chance you'll ever vote for them, they won't waste any effort on contacting you.


GravatarBaker's spreading the fertilizer awful thick.


GravatarI suspect Newtie Baby. Or, hell, Blunt. Or.....

Obviously gotta be Lee Atwater's sick puppy, Karl.
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Gravatarand I clearly have not had enough to drink at the close of this filthy week.

Going to try some homeopathy for lunacy and go out and moonbathe for a while.

Later, lovely ones.


GravatarWell, whoever's doing the Mich. governor's race microtargeting has fucked up, because I'm getting stupid DeVos voicemails, and there's no way in fucking hell I'd ever vote for the slimy bastard.


GravatarLong time, no see.
bo | 10.07.06 - 12:24 am


i have a confession to make.

i've been cheating on y'all.

i've been slutting it up with these fine folks.

it's kind of like here, only smaller, the lights are turned town a little bit, and everybody's a little more wasted.


GravatarThere's a woman om Tavis Smiley saying Repubs do "microtargeting," a term I'd not heard. It means the Repubs know your income, what church you go to, how many kids you have, etc., call you for that.
Draco

dems do the same thing. wesley clark used to ceo a company that did this type of consumer databasing. this is just more mumbo jumbo media is going to throw up to explain how republicans yet won again.


GravatarI pray Baker's offspring all suffer horrible deaths while he's still alive to witness it.

He's a despicable waste of a human life.


GravatarAt least five apparently bogus voter registration forms were submitted to the Metro Nashville election commission by a worker with ties to the Republican National Committee, and up to 150 other registrations have been called into question, The Tennessean has learned.

Election officials in Williamson County said they were probing three to five potentially fraudulent forms that might or might not be related to the Metro cases.


Gravatarkitty's change direction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...=r4B9qT8zaPU& NR


GravatarAll this is true but somehow I see a replay of 2004 election here. There is an issue and the Republicans are attacking not the Democrats’ weakness but what should be their strength with innuendos and falsehoods. Yet not one Democratic strategist, blogger or elected official is doing the cable show circuit pounding away their advantage and drilling home the fact that Foley is Republican and the leadership kept quiet and maybe even benefitted financially by their silence. If they do not use the opportunities when they come knocking the Democrats will not only lose their advantage but also lose the election and become irrelevant as a political party. Americans like winners and fighters, right now the Democrats appear far from being either. Neither the online whining of Mediamatters, or Thinkprogress or any of the gazillion liberal bloggers will finally help out if the people who should vote don’t see the Democrats on tv fighting back.


GravatarObviously gotta be Lee Atwater's sick puppy, Karl.
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QuentinCompson |

sumbitch. Bet you're right.


GravatarBaker trying to justify the Supreme Court appointing Bush over Gore.

Nice revisionist history there, cockbiter.


GravatarBaker trying to justify the Supreme Court appointing Bush over Gore.

Nice revisionist history there, cockbiter.


Gravatardon’t see the Democrats on tv fighting back.

Guess what? Six companies control the cameras.
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GravatarThanks for your concern.
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GravatarSorry Sarah D has gone, hope Jeffraham is still about. The Repubs are very thorough using market research techniques to get the Repubs out to vote, give money.

Most unsavory, but Repubs like it, respond. I'd hate it if Dems tried such manipulation on me


GravatarAt least five apparently bogus voter registration forms were submitted to the Metro Nashville election commission by a worker with ties to the Republican National Committee, and up to 150 other registrations have been called into question, The Tennessean has learned.

Election officials in Williamson County said they were probing three to five potentially fraudulent forms that might or might not be related to the Metro cases.
JT |


The idea is that five Repub fake ballots cancel out all of the legit Democrat ballots.


GravatarDems form the core majority of new registereds, plus this blocks repubs who change designations after the corruption exodus occurs.


GravatarSleep well, you sexy, scintillating, savvy Moonbats.


GravatarDraco -- I'm still here, but not for long. I need a shower, and sleep... soon.
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Gravatar"It's payback time, but that's not why I took the job."

Charlie Rose: *Chuckle*


GravatarSometimes I feel like a Spartan... sometimes I don't...


Gravatarjello | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:31 am | #

I'll not dispute you, but the Dems are less efficient. Less businesslike


Gravataranybody want some of this chocolate box cake? i really can't eat the whole thing.


GravatarThread at Freeperville:


Sci Fi Channel

Posted by Freep EE
On 10/06/2006 8:58:56 PM PDT · 23 replies · 404+ views

Sci Fi Channel | 10/06/06 | Sci Fi Channel
Freepers please help. This is one of my first posts. I am sorry if I don't do this right! I just watched Battlestar Galactica tonight. I was just sickened by the program tonight where the resistance fighters were wearing suicide belts, blowing themselves up to fight the "evil silons". This is blatant "moral equivalance" situation where Sci Fi viewers were subjected to the "war on terror" equivalance of the "war on Silons" where they try to equate the terrorists to fictional characters on Sci. If this continues, I will not watch Sci Fi channel anymore. Freepers please help ssend a...


GravatarGraph of Foley finger-pointing.


GravatarYes, game time tommorrow...
Ralston out was big, quite a Friday docudump.


This of course prevents her from claiming Executive privilege and may actually extend the Fitz trial because of procedure, she cannot claim executive privilege.


That would be the way Bush usually handles things, get people from page gate , make them part of a new committee or task force, and hold them to executive privilege.

Have the feeling Fitz has it covered and when any one person does such a thing he immediately springs into action, unfolding an extended depth of trial proceedings.

Simply expand what it is you can find out, the loss of privilege holds a person to account. The 5th pleas will come ringing in.

How it works upon the base timeline is another story altogether, one I'm not certain of.


GravatarYes, game time tommorrow...
Ralston out was big, quite a Friday docudump.


This of course prevents her from claiming Executive privilege and may actually extend the Fitz trial because of procedure, she cannot claim executive privilege.


That would be the way Bush usually handles things, get people from page gate , make them part of a new committee or task force, and hold them to executive privilege.

Have the feeling Fitz has it covered and when any one person does such a thing he immediately springs into action, unfolding an extended depth of trial proceedings.

Simply expand what it is you can find out, the loss of privilege holds a person to account. The 5th pleas will come ringing in.

How it works upon the base timeline is another story altogether, one I'm not certain of.


Gravatar"Guess what? Six companies control the cameras."

That might be the case but it still not an excuse of exploiting an issue to their advantage. There are Democratic strategists, bloggers and representatives invited on talk shows and yet they remain eeriely silent as if saying anything on this issue will be a breach of some sort of ethics. The Republicans will not implode, the Democrats have to defeat them and that's what politics is all about. I wish more people had the courage to say what Harold Ford Jr. had said recently.


GravatarJeffraham--I need a shower too. I've come down with a case of psoriasis, must take two a day, lest I start flaking. Supposedly curable


GravatarI'll not dispute you, but the Dems are less efficient. Less businesslike

Yeah. The Rethugs invented and perfected this way of doing things. The Dems are doing the same sort of thing but are behind the curve. There was story on NPR about this today, but its been a concern for the last 2 or 3 election cycles that the Rs have been way outperforming the Dems in this area.


GravatarI'll not dispute you, but the Dems are less efficient. Less businesslike

Yeah. The Rethugs invented and perfected this way of doing things. The Dems are doing the same sort of thing but are behind the curve. There was story on NPR about this today, but its been a concern for the last 2 or 3 election cycles that the Rs have been way outperforming the Dems in this area.


Gravataranybody who willingly and with a straight face calls themselves something like "freeper" would tend to be more a victim of science fiction than a fan of it. in other words - someone who can't tell the difference between science fiction and reality.

hint: if you go over to free republic and post "OCTAVIA BUTLER!!!", the entire right half of the internet will implode.


GravatarSome wingnut on the radio just said "Jimmy Carter was really a woman."


GravatarFreepers please help

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Do they think Ronald Moore is going to be intimidated by their cheeto eating asses? Dream on, you douchebags.


Gravatarand, entirely unrelated, but jeebus are there any reporters who are able to resist the mind control powers of Republican talking point bullshit?

You have it, spread it about. =)


GravatarSome wingnut on the radio just said "Jimmy Carter was really a woman."
Ô¿Ô | 10.07.06 - 12:49 am


to those people, that's an insult.

hell, even pete townshend said "i AM a woman."


GravatarJimmy Carter deregulated the railroad, airline, and trucking industry. Tell that to the next wingnut you meet and wait for his head to explode.


GravatarThere are Democratic strategists, bloggers and representatives invited on talk shows and yet they remain eeriely silent as if saying anything on this issue will be a breach of some sort of ethics.

Name two of each who've been invited on talk shows since last Friday, and not said anything about Masturgate.

I'll wait.
.


GravatarIncog--It's very funny you venture to the far-flung ways of the internet. Damn you have an eye for the half-sane loonies


GravatarStrom loved the smell of napalm in the mourning dove.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarStrom loved the smell of napalm in the mourning dove.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarNeat. Mann Coulter voted illegally for Mark Foley. How does that not surprise me?

But that finger-pointing flowchart left out the Fibbies/DOJ - I think there's a big fat commie rat story therein somewhere.
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GravatarI was just sickened by the program tonight where the resistance fighters were wearing suicide belts, blowing themselves up to fight the "evil silons".

Ah, the evil silons, who infest cylindrical grain storage towers throughout the farm belt.


GravatarOMG! It's true. Rick Santurum was right...... gay marriage will lead to the downfall of our society... It is already happening...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...related& search=


GravatarThe MSM instinct to protect repubs that I was talking about last night really started to kick in today. It's truly amazing to watch. The repubs have absolutely no evidence yet they get the press to repeat their bs claims that the dems had something to do with the disclosures. Extremely revealing as to who ultimately controls the press.


GravatarThe MSM instinct to protect repubs that I was talking about last night really started to kick in today. It's truly amazing to watch. The repubs have absolutely no evidence yet they get the press to repeat their bs claims that the dems had something to do with the disclosures. Extremely revealing as to who ultimately controls the press.


GravatarMust shower, now that Jeffraham has reminded me. I have too many diseases, health falling apart.


GravatarOMG! It's true. Rick Santurum was right...... gay marriage will lead to the downfall of our society... It is already happening...

RABBIT
ON
CAT


GravatarOMG! It's true. Rick Santurum was right...... gay marriage will lead to the downfall of our society... It is already happening...

RABBIT
ON
CAT
Dr. Wu | 10.07.06 - 12:54 am | #

Gawd Yes!!!! Help us all!


GravatarLooks like Denny Hastert's Chief of Staff, Scott Palmer, is in a heap of trouble.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...ives/ 010238.php


GravatarDamn...


GravatarFYI:

Catholics is Creepy. (pic)


GravatarFYI:

Catholics is Creepy. (pic)


GravatarOkey-dokey, better smokie!


GravatarBetter visit the popcorn aisle tomorrow.
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Gravatar2nd witness now says Hastert's office was warned about Foley well before November 2005

http://americablog.blogspot.com/...rts- office.html


Gravatar"Name two of each who've been invited on talk shows since last Friday, and not said anything about Masturgate"

It's not a question of name two of each, my point is if they want to defeat the Republican noise machine then the Democrats have to make some noise of their own. I can tell you what I saw and that is two Democratic challenegers (the guy who is now a virtual shoo-in for Foley's seat and the guy who is challenging Hastert) play it safe on Hardball in the last 2 days. The issue they should have raised is whether the Republican leadership took hush money to protect a child predator and for how long. When someone gives 100 grand to a political party or a candidate it should raise some eyebrows, and when it is given by an elected representative of the house it stinks to high heaven and begs the questions where did he get the money from and why did he make such a huge "donation"?


GravatarI have a feeling maf54 is maferbaiting..


GravatarThat Marine's email quoted here a while back has made Time magazine.

http://www.time.com/time/world/a...43658- 1,00.html
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Gravatar"...people who should vote don’t see the Democrats on tv fighting back..."

This is quite true, because at this point nothing has anything to do with truth; reality itself is constructed by the media, and therefore it is a rigged game from the start.

Just take a look at who owns the media. The same interests that own everything else at this point. Capitalism is great, but capitalism with no conscience is as tyrannical or moreso than any other absolutist program.

All of this is covered by Ferdinand Lundberg in "The Rich And The Super Rich". Media Matters is not "whining", they are taking one of the only approaches available given the reality underlying our situation.

One of the most daunting challenges for Americans seeking progress is
the state of our language itself.
Self-identified Liberals see other
self-described Liberals engaged in all sorts of behaviours and engaged
in various programs which are decidedly anything but liberal, and by
the same token, every day so-called Conservatives participate in highly
radical, destructive, anarchic policys which cannot by any stretch
of the imagination be termed conservative, yet these simplified, dumbed-down stereotypes are reinforced every second.

Eric Blair writing as George Orwell foresaw and predicted this inversion of meaning long ago in his classic
1984, and a scant 22 years after that date we are now living with certain realitys that would have shocked even Blair in their brutality, invasiveness, and anti-human character.

Both Lundberg's book and the recently released film "Orwell Roll's In His Grave" are essential materials for charting the waters ahead.


GravatarMSGOP top story, "Aide disputes Hastert Timeline" comes up "page not found".


GravatarIt's very dysfunctional for me to have my current undiagnosable whatever illness. To periodically break out in psoriasis is disgusting, showering repeatedly the only solution; I can't stand my own body. It's very strange and bad to feel that way as I like to feel clean


GravatarRep. Mark Foley (R-FL) Seduces Eric Cartman.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gxCJw7_Vflo


Gravatarhint: if you go over to free republic and post "OCTAVIA BUTLER!!!", the entire right half of the internet will implode.
r@d@r | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:48 am | #


Explain? Please?


Gravatarhint: if you go over to free republic and post "OCTAVIA BUTLER!!!", the entire right half of the internet will implode.
r@d@r | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:48 am | #


Explain? Please?


GravatarOh, dear, Buck O'Neill died.

Keith Olberman will be so sad.


GravatarExplain? Please? ~ hey

Google, she ees jour amiga, no?

so.


Gravatarhint: if you go over to free republic and post "OCTAVIA BUTLER!!!", the entire right half of the internet will implode.
r@d@r | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:48 am | #


And if you post "URSULA LE GUIN!" the entire left hand of the internet will fall into darkness.


GravatarRep. Mark Foley (R-FL) Seduces Eric Cartman.



Sick (R-FL) but funny!


GravatarIt's very dysfunctional for me to have my current undiagnosable whatever illness. To periodically break out in psoriasis is disgusting, showering repeatedly the only solution; I can't stand my own body. It's very strange and bad to feel that way as I like to feel clean
Draco

Try an Alkaline/acid foods diet yet?
http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/ ac...idalkfoods.html


GravatarDennis Hastert made a deal with The Devil.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XNdd...ney% 20Represent


GravatarBSG may well be one of the best shows on TV, but the new Dr. Who is still pretty damn good IMHO (D-KS)


GravatarTime for me to get some sleep and digest the dark but rich buffet that BSG just served up, peace!


GravatarDennis Hastert made a deal with The Devil.


Bob Satan is a perfect pagan gentleman I'll have you know.


GravatarAbout Gaius: A friend has a theory that he is, and he and Caprica Six died in that explosion together. Their code somehow got scrambled together on the way back to resurrection and that's why they both see each other.

But ... maybe he's not, and they're just screwing with us trying to make us think he is? Or is it a double-screw, and they want us to think he isn't when really he is? Or maybe that's just what they WANT us to think, and --

Dammit, remind me never go in against a BSG producer when DEATH is on the line.


GravatarRep. Mark Foley (R-FL) Seduces (D-FL) Eric Cartman.



Sick (R-FL) but funny!

OMG! (D-FL)


GravatarDid everybody die?


GravatarBut ... maybe he's not, and they're just screwing with us trying to make us think he is? Or is it a double-screw, and they want us to think he isn't when really he is? Or maybe that's just what they WANT us to think, and --

BSG is so good I've quit trying to second guess them. Are they trying t double psych us, or are they following a tried and true formula (but with a twist!).

To me the best thing to do is just to lie back, think of Caprica, and enjoy whatever happens...


GravatarDid everybody die?

No, was eating a tasty high calorie snack, barbecued pork ribs.


GravatarThat theory about Gaius and Caprica Six is very interesting.

And if Starbuck isn't playing a long con on the cylon, I'm gonna be pissed off.


GravatarKen Mehlman was lying like a cheap rug just now on Cavuto, saying Hastert immediately made Foley resign, etc.

First I've seen his mug since this all broke - must have taken a while to get the meds adjusted just right.
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GravatarBut ... maybe he's not, and they're just screwing with us trying to make us think he is? Or is it a double-screw,

You mean the double helix time space ladder of the DNA matrix?

That what decodes space and time 8x faster than light, that fine line that we walk, a chopped and animated 3d world that is actually only a single vibrating point, a point of light within a point of light? Infinities end?


GravatarDown with King George the Deluded!


Gravatar/checks deodorant....

People all asleep?


Gravatar/picks up hat and cane...

On the goOOoooddd ship
LollLlllLLIIIIiii Pop...

tappity tappity tap


Gravatar/clears throat

OOooooLLlllldddDDdd Maaaaaaaaaaaannnn River
He just keeeeeeeps rooooolllin'
aaalooooooooooooooongg...


GravatarJeb Bush has to hide in closet from angry crowd in Pittsburgh
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2549903

Candy ass.
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GravatarOo! The place all to myself!

Frist!

First!

Fuck Bush!

Muhahahaha!


GravatarAnn Althouse is very, very silly.


Gravatareep!


GravatarTigers beat the Borg. The Borg will looking for a flight out of Detroit Metro airport about 8'oclock tonight. The Borg are going home for the winter. Everyone here is drunk is some people are behaving lechereously.


GravatarJeb Bush has to hide in closet from angry crowd in Pittsburgh
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2549903

Candy ass.
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QuentinCompson

Well.. that's the first time a Republican has been seen ENTERING a closet....


GravatarHey -- I just went to http://www.freerepublic.com to post OCTAVIA BUTLER!!!, but they make you register to post. Not going to happen -- I don't even want them to have my IP address. However, they do have a link to the ABC News Tip Line web page, and I suppose the reason it's there is so that Freepers can inundate ABC News with bogus tips and general bullshit.

Question, while on the topic of ABC News: Since it was ABC that produced and aired the 9/11 pack o' lies, why are they also the ones going after Foley and by extension, the Republicans?


GravatarYes Buck O'Neill died. That is very sad. The borg also died, and that is very food.


GravatarPosada: A Double Standard in the War on Terror
Posted on Friday, October 6, 2006. By Michelle Garcia.

On October 6, 1976 seventy-three people were killed when terrorists blew up Cubana Flight 455, which was on its way from Barbados to Cuba. Thirty years later, on September 11, 2006, Luis Posada Carriles, one of the men who allegedly carried out the attack, was sitting in a Texas prison when a federal judge in El Paso, Texas, ordered him released from detention. If a U.S. district court upholds the ruling, Posada could be on the street within a few weeks.
http://harpers.org/mg-posada- 116...1160087414.html

How 'bout some law and order, by God!
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GravatarQuestion, while on the topic of ABC News: Since it was ABC that produced and aired the 9/11 pack o' lies, why are they also the ones going after Foley and by extension, the Republicans?
hey

I'll do a Hastert and say I've only heard it suggested that Disney/ABC were stunned at the angry backlash after the propaganda misinformation movie. I have no proof....


GravatarSee if there's YouTube of Shuster's piece on Hardball, Atrios. He acted like he heard you, and refuted every GOP spin point and lie, explicitly and in sequence.

Since it was ABC that produced and aired the 9/11 pack o' lies, why are they also the ones going after Foley and by extension, the Republicans?

News division != entertainment division.


GravatarDennis Hastert | 10.07.06 - 1:16 am | #

I can't figure if your comment was helpful or trollish in intent. The link was odd indeed.

I'm sorry to trouble any Atriots with my medical problems


Gravatarlol!

i saw on fox how democrat mark foley was fucking little boys and i laughed because teh democrat party are fags and loosers!

lol!


GravatarYou know, Hastert does bear a certain resemblance to Brando...


GravatarBSG may well be one of the best shows on TV, but the new Dr. Who is still pretty damn good IMHO (D-KS)
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 10.07.06 - 1:17 am | #

That's the problem: I'm sure there's many fine dramas on television but television itself is crap. Other than news and TDS, BSG is the only thing I watch.


Gravatar"...people who should vote don’t see the Democrats on tv fighting back..."

This is quite true, because at this point nothing has anything to do with truth; reality itself is constructed by the media, and therefore it is a rigged game from the start.

Just take a look at who owns the media. The same interests that own everything else at this point.

Capitalism is great, but capitalism with no conscience is as tyrannical or moreso than any other absolutist program. All of this is covered by Ferdinand Lundberg in "The Rich And The Super Rich". Media Matters is not "whining", they are taking one of the only approaches available given the reality underlying our situation.

One of the most daunting challenges for Americans seeking progress is
the state of our language itself.
Self-identified Liberals see other
self-described Liberals engaged in all sorts of behaviours and engaged
in various programs which are decidedly anything but liberal, and by
the same token, every day so-called Conservatives participate in highly
radical, destructive, anarchic policys which cannot by any stretch
of the imagination be termed conservative, yet these simplified, dumbed-down stereotypes are reinforced every second.

Obfuscation, misdirection, distraction, lying, and dissimulation of all kinds are part of the program to divide and thereby presumably win what is actually an unwinnable goal.

Eric Blair writing as George Orwell foresaw and predicted this inversion of meaning long ago in his classic
1984, and a scant 22 years after that date we are now living with amoral realitys that would have mystified Blair and surprised even Lundberg in their brutality, invasiveness, ultimately suicidal and therefore futile anti-human character.

Both Lundberg's book and the recently released film "Orwell Roll's In His Grave" are essential materials for charting the waters ahead.


GravatarYou know, Hastert does bear a certain resemblance to Brando...
animus | 10.07.06 - 1:40 am | #

Yeah but he's a double for Cardinal Law


GravatarYes Buck O'Neill died.

Well that sucks. They should have put him in the Hall of Fame while he was still alive.


GravatarThere's a woman om Tavis Smiley saying Repubs do "microtargeting," a term I'd not heard. It means the Repubs know your income, what church you go to, how many kids you have, etc., call you for that.

There was something about this in the Dewlap Ken profile done by Nagourney last week. They get tradeable databases looking at things like magazine subscriptions and cable subs and whatever.

The idea is to pick out GOP voters in the middle of majority-Dem districts, by finding the subscribers to Soldier of Fortune or KKK Monthly or I Love Me Some Pages Weekly.


Gravatar
That's the problem: I'm sure there's many fine dramas on television but television itself is crap. Other than news and TDS, BSG is the only thing I watch.
Mike | 10.07.06 - 1:40 am | #


House is good.
Veronica Mars is good.
Studio 60 is good.
Lost is good.
Weeds is good.
Extras is good.


Gravatarlol!

i saw on fox how democrat mark foley was fucking little boys and i laughed because teh democrat party are fags and loosers!

lol!

haha You're either a clumsy attempt at making a joke or you are a joke yourself.

Hint: Foley is a Republican.


GravatarYou know, Hastert does bear a certain resemblance to Brando...
animus | 10.07.06 - 1:40 am | #


The horror! The horror!


Gravatarlol!

i saw on fox how democrat mark foley was fucking little boys and i laughed because teh democrat party are fags and loosers!

lol!
haha | 10.07.06 - 1:40 am | #


haha might be a troll, but Fox did post this image last night.


GravatarYou know, Hastert does bear a certain resemblance to Brando...
animus


You know, Hastert does bear a certain resemblance to a bear...


GravatarGrrr. Dammit. Try this:

http://thumbsnap.com/v/gjFvcDks.jpg


GravatarHouse is good.
Veronica Mars is good.
Studio 60 is good.
Lost is good.
Weeds is good.
Extras is good.
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 1:44 am | #

Like I said, I'm sure they are. Still, that's six hours of my life every week. I'm still trying to find the time to watch several hundred megabytes of technical presentation videos I download every week or so.


GravatarBy the way, in case you didn't know, the name for Starbuck's comes from the novel Moby Dick. The first mate was Starbuck, and he drank a lot of coffee.


GravatarI see the "liberal" media is dutifully regurgitating the lie that the deficit is only $250 billion, even though public debt shot up over $600 billion in the past year - including a one day bump of over $40 billion the day after the end of the fiscal year.


GravatarBy the way, in case you didn't know, the name for Starbuck's comes from the novel Moby Dick. The first mate was Starbuck, and he drank a lot of coffee.
Draco

That's fun to know...


Gravatarum, hey, your linkie thingie is brokie, okie dokie?


GravatarI'll not dispute you, but the Dems are less efficient. Less businesslike

Yeah. The Rethugs invented and perfected this way of doing things. The Dems are doing the same sort of thing but are behind the curve. There was story on NPR about this today, but its been a concern for the last 2 or 3 election cycles that the Rs have been way outperforming the Dems in this area.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |

When everything is about power rather than actual, you know, governance, this sort of thing is considered worthy of pursuit.

I'm fucking sick of it. It has no damn place in running the country.

Rethugs are ALL about power, governance, not at all.

SD


GravatarLike I said, I'm sure they are. Still, that's six hours of my life every week. I'm still trying to find the time to watch several hundred megabytes of technical presentation videos I download every week or so.
Mike | 10.07.06 - 1:48 am | #


You said "television itself is crap." Not sure how else to interpret that, really.

By the way, in case you didn't know, the name for Starbuck's comes from the novel Moby Dick. The first mate was Starbuck, and he drank a lot of coffee.
Draco | 10.07.06 - 1:49 am | #


I keep waiting for a tea-shop chain named Stubb's to open up...


Gravatar"...people who should vote don’t see the Democrats on tv fighting back..."

This is quite true, because at this point nothing has anything to do with truth; reality itself is constructed by the media, and therefore it is a rigged game from the start. The only mechanism available to address this is triplicate non-electronic paper balloting verified by both parties in addition to a third independent audit, with public supervision.

Just take a look at who owns the media. The same interests that own everything else at this point.

Capitalism is great, but capitalism with no conscience is as tyrannical or moreso than any other absolutist program. All of this is covered by Ferdinand Lundberg in "The Rich And The Super Rich". Media Matters is not "whining", they are taking one of the only approaches available given the reality underlying our situation.

One of the most daunting challenges for Americans seeking progress is
the state of our language itself.
Self-identified Liberals see other
self-described Liberals engaged in all sorts of behaviours and engaged
in various programs which are decidedly anything but liberal, and by
the same token, every day so-called Conservatives participate in highly
radical, destructive, anarchic policys which cannot by any stretch
of the imagination be termed conservative, yet these simplified, dumbed-down stereotypes are reinforced every second.

Obfuscation, misdirection, distraction, lying, and dissimulation of all kinds are part of the program to divide and thereby presumably win what is actually an unwinnable goal.

Eric Blair writing as George Orwell foresaw and predicted this inversion of meaning long ago in his classic
1984, and a scant 22 years after that date we are now living with amoral realitys that would have mystified Blair and surprised even Lundberg in their brutality, invasiveness, ultimately suicidal and therefore futile anti-human character.

Both Lundberg's book and the recently released film "Orwell Roll's In His Grave" are essential materials for charting the waters ahead.


Gravatarum, hey, your linkie thingie is brokie, okie dokie?
D L | 10.07.06 - 1:51 am | #


Yeah, sorry. Try the link at my 1:48 post.

(After all this, it becomes the equivalent of a joke that needs to be explained.)


Gravatarbtw I would likely watch 'Weeds' but just have basic cable. I had lots of premiums years ago but canceled all of them after seeing how HBO ran _The Night the Lights Went out in Georgia_ every fucking month.


GravatarIs there a more disgusting Nazi apologist than that sleazy motherfucker Lieberwhore?


GravatarHowdy. What's the good word?


Gravatarbtw I would likely watch 'Weeds' but just have basic cable.

I don't have Showtime, but I got Weeds on Netflix.


GravatarHowdy. What's the good word?
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 1:58 am | #


"Mellifluous."


Gravatar"I know it's fasionable to say what you're saying," Lieberman told the student.

Fuck you with 10,000 tons of jagged white-hot death, Joe.


Gravatar"Mellifluous."
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 1:59 am | #


Oooh. Teh sexy!


Gravatar"You said "television itself is crap." Not sure how else to interpret that, really."

No great mystery. Don't take me too literally.


Gravatar "Mellifluous."
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 1:59 am | #

Oooh. Teh sexy!
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 1:59 am | #


I been saving it, and myself, just for you.


Gravatar Coming out party at the white house?


GravatarThink of all the daily propaganda we get from MSM, and the resources it takes from the right.

How bout trying out all that propaganda on the enemy, instead of Americans? We shd be able to crush any enemy.


GravatarI looked at the digital cable offering (I wouldn't mind upgrading, since then I could get cable broadband to replace DSL) and it's like 600 more channels which contains, I recall, *one* additional news channel.


GravatarTHE HISTORY CHANNEL HAS EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEWS WITH HITLER'S LIVING DESCENDANTS.


GravatarTHE HISTORY CHANNEL HAS EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEWS WITH HITLER'S LIVING DESCENDANTS.
spawn | 10.07.06 - 2:03 am | #


Fuck you too, jack. Ya miserable putz.


GravatarElroon--Moby Dick isn't much read these days, but I find it dascinating. The descriptions of whale slaughtering, the draining of the oil, the skull ambrosia, most valuable, the gathering of the meat, the fetishistic hoisting of the penis, used in sausage eventually. I cannot understand how my great-great-grand-father was part of this culture, but he was


GravatarWhen everything is about power rather than actual, you know, governance, this sort of thing is considered worthy of pursuit.


This is what we get with routine less than 60% turn out. All the the Rethgugs need is 30% of voters to turn out & vote for them. If turn out was more like 90% this sort of manipulation would not decide the elction.


Gravatar
How bout trying out all that propaganda on the enemy, instead of Americans? We shd be able to crush any enemy.
garage mahal | 10.07.06 - 2:03 am | #


You're missing the point. The owners of the media ARE trying out all that propaganda on the enemy, i.e. average Americans.

And it's working.


GravatarONT one inclueded The GrimAdventures of billy and Mandy on their favorite TV shows.


Gravatarfascinating, not dascinating


GravatarPreviewing Comment: Click "Publish" to submit your message.

The idea is to pick out GOP voters in the middle of majority-Dem districts, by finding the subscribers to Soldier of Fortune or KKK Monthly or I Love Me Some Pages Weekly.

speak your truth, the sheep cannot, or better for us, will not comprehend, that the idea is to create the illusion of voter choice (i.e. democracy- Exxon, et al., will never let voter choice interfere with power... never) Diebold is, and was designed, for such.... and fuck your idealism, any kind of choice or balance would only hinder our design. This is real global domination, and the profits thereof... do you really we care about what you think?


GravatarPreviewing Comment: Click "Publish" to submit your message.

The idea is to pick out GOP voters in the middle of majority-Dem districts, by finding the subscribers to Soldier of Fortune or KKK Monthly or I Love Me Some Pages Weekly.

speak your truth, the sheep cannot, or better for us, will not comprehend, that the idea is to create the illusion of voter choice (i.e. democracy- Exxon, et al., will never let voter choice interfere with power... never) Diebold is, and was designed, for such.... and fuck your idealism, any kind of choice or balance would only hinder our design. This is real global domination, and the profits thereof... do you really we care about what you think?


GravatarHITLER'S SISTER WAS ENGAGED TO A MASS MURDERER.


GravatarWhatcha mean MOby DIck isn't mjch read these days? Are you freaking crazy?


Gravatar"Freepers please help. This is one of my first posts. I am sorry if I don't do this right! I just watched Battlestar Galactica tonight. I was just sickened..."


We should start refering to rethugs as 'toasters'


Gravatar Draco | 10.07.06 - 2:04 am | #

Love that novel. And Henry James's remark that Moby-Dick is "a great short story" tells you everything you need to now about why I can't stand James's novels.


Gravatar"No one has been tortured" = Gaius Baltar to Roslyn.

Gaius Baltar: White House spokestwit.


GravatarHa ha...you and I agree on that one Rorhschachs...

Henry James sucks


Gravatarhitler had relatives IN AUSTRIA that were CLINICALLY INSANE.
HITLER TRIED TO COVER IT UP.


GravatarEven with his betrayal of the human race and stuff, I'd rather have Gaius Baltar as prez instead of Boosh


GravatarI readn Jose Saramago's Blindness now...just finished a scond reading of McCarthy's THe Road...My wife took the keys to the gun cabinets


Gravatarhenry james, the Bobo of the early late 19th century.

blow me, henry



harriet jacobs, now there's a 19th century american


GravatarWillaim James desnt' suck though.


GravatarLove that novel. And Henry James's remark that Moby-Dick is "a great short story" tells you everything you need to now about why I can't stand James's novels.
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:07 am | #


James is just about the worst.

Melville's great, of course. "The Confidence-Man" and "Pierre" both really get to me, too.


GravatarTHE BORG ARE GOING HOME LOSERS TONGIGHT


GravatarI dreamed the sky was full of falling elephants. The donkeys are watching, too disorganized to accomplish much, just making frisky little experimental leaps. But you get the feeling they are finally getting it together, and their time is coming. Elephants in free fall: Haster, Boehner, Reynolds? More?


Gravatarhenry james, the Bobo of the early late 19th century.

Funny 'cause it's true.

George Lippard...now there's a classic American novelist, in a sense...


GravatarHitler's sister said Hitler used to slap her in the face.


Gravatarrorschach--I like Henry James. His prose is twisted, indirect beyond belief, but I like how well he understands manners, as in the novel where the crucial incident is that the man doesn't stand up when his mistress enters the room, telling all that she is indeed his mistress


GravatarMelville's great, of course. "The Confidence-Man" and "Pierre" both really get to me, too.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:11 am | #


Yeah, but "Billy Budd" makes my fucking eyes bleed. So, so bad.


George Lippard...now there's a classic American novelist, in a sense...
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:12 am | #


True, that. Monks of Monk Hall still rather freaks me out, in a good way.


GravatarI like how well he understands manners, as in the novel where the crucial incident is that the man doesn't stand up when his mistress enters the room, telling all that she is indeed his mistress
Draco | 10.07.06 - 2:14 am | #


I don't think being hopelessly bourgeois really earns you that many points.


GravatarThe Freeper Filth would be among the first to colloborate with the Cylons.


GravatarI'd pay minimum wage to have someone come to my house and read Moby DIck to me.


GravatarTrue, that. Monks of Monk Hall still rather freaks me out, in a good way.
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:15 am | #


I love that book.

What about James Purdy? He's pretty underrated, I think.


Gravatarrorschach--I like Henry James. His prose is twisted, indirect beyond belief, but I like how well he understands manners, as in the novel where the crucial incident is that the man doesn't stand up when his mistress enters the room, telling all that she is indeed his mistress
Draco | 10.07.06 - 2:14 am | #


Yes, I do... appreciate James. But I never enjoy James.

Well, almost never.


Gravatarhenry james, the Bobo of the early late 19th century.

That's good.

I can almost see Bobo doing an essay about Chartes. Almost, but not - it would be a terrifying essay.


GravatarI remember the punk Jaret Wrights dad, CLyde Wright, he sukced too. They say JAret expereinced because of the 7th game of '97 world series...but they lost that game...ha ha 198 million dollar linup and the Borg can't score a run.


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I don't think being hopelessly bourgeois really earns you that many points.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:15 am | #


Heh. That's well put.

Purdy... that has been years, so I really cannot say...


GravatarYeah, but "Billy Budd" makes my fucking eyes bleed. So, so bad.

He's written some of the worst prose in English, no doubt about it. "Pierre" and "TCM" are two of my favorite books, but they're unreadable in spots. "Redburn" is pretty lousy, too.

On the other hand, it's a lot easier to criticize his worst than to match his best...


Gravatarharriet jacobs, now there's a 19th century american
mrs. ibrahim al-jaafari


yes.


GravatarI seem to be the only one liking Henry James. My favorite is The Europeans, an ironic title about American children raised in Europe, never exactly adjusting to either culture.


GravatarMIKE...Stnd in repsect and awe before Moby Dick you big dummy.


GravatarOn the other hand, it's a lot easier to criticize his worst than to match his best..

I love Benito Cereno. (and, of course, Bartleby.)


GravatarOn the other hand, it's a lot easier to criticize his worst than to match his best...
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:18 am | #


Damn right, that.

And, further on your hopelessly bourgeois comment--

I'd love to put together a book of criticism on "wannabe" writers. Not people who want to be writers, but writers who are wannabes.

Like James, who wanted to be the perfect English boozhy. And F. Scott, who wanted to be decadent rich. And Spenser, who wanted to be a court favorite.

That could be fun.


GravatarYes, I do... appreciate James. But I never enjoy James.

"Washington Square" is tolerable. And a couple of his ghost stories are OK. But the idea that he belongs in any sort of canon is bizarre to me, and all I can think is that his preoccupations and pretensions happened to dovetail very neatly with those of early 20th c. academics.


GravatarYou know, Hastert does bear a certain resemblance to a bear...
Here's who Denny Hastert resembles


GravatarMy favorite is The Europeans, an ironic title about American children raised in Europe, never exactly adjusting to either culture.
Draco


I enjoyed that one too.


GravatarI'd pay minimum wage to have someone come to my house and read Moby DIck to me.
Mike | 10.07.06 - 2:15 am | #


Maybe this isn't what you are looking for, but have you ever checked audio books out of your local library? When I broke my glasses and was too poor to get them replaced, audio books saved my sanity.

Some readers are better than others.


GravatarI thought not; but sweet dreams to you revolutionaries without weapons or means…


GravatarThe Freeper Filth would be among the first to colloborate with the Cylons.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 10.07.06 - 2:15 am | #

They'd line up in vast numbers.

Last year, I had the occassion to visit the US Embassey. It was a small peaceful western country but the embassey was like a fortress. There was a nice entrance which had been permanently shut, replaced by a guard hut where they emptied your pockets, scanned you, also rubbed paper over your hands and scanned the paper before directing you to a back entrance. Across the street the local police had rigged a trailer. Guards and police all carried submachineguns with the clips doubled for quick'n'easy reloading.

Waiting in line, in the crowd, for an hour, felt extremely vulnerable. We were perfect targets.


GravatarAny reason I shouldn't follow up a bottle of cabernet with some tequila? Reality seems to be creeping in on little...um...weasel feet.


GravatarCharles Frazier is a wannabe.


Gravatar"Washington Square" is tolerable. And a couple of his ghost stories are OK. But the idea that he belongs in any sort of canon is bizarre to me, and all I can think is that his preoccupations and pretensions happened to dovetail very neatly with those of early 20th c. academics.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:21 am | #


Agreed, again.

The Turn of the Screw is fun enough. But the most profound enjoyment I got even from that tale came not from the novel itself, but rather from James's assertion that he was creating a brand new form (!!!)... and from a critical essay demonstating how much it relies of boys' stories of the era.

Pretentious jackass.


GravatarThat could be fun.
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:21 am | #


Interesting idea. Earn you a lot of enemies. Though that's possibly all to the good.

I'd put Henry Miller in there.


GravatarAny reason I shouldn't follow up a bottle of cabernet with some tequila? Reality seems to be creeping in on little...um...weasel feet.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:24 am | #


Sounds dangerous to me, but what the hell.


Gravatar"Maybe this isn't what you are looking for, but have you ever checked audio books out of your local library?"

I want instant voice control. Back up. Read the last two paragraphs again. That kind of thing. Maybe I could find some software


Gravatarnotthatthereisanything wrong with fetishizing Melville and Hawthorne, as far as early 19th C. stylistsb go


jacobs and douglas, et. alia

the captivity narrative is the narrative of the 19th century.

just ask Thoreau
and Emerson
and Parker
and Alc ott
and Fuller


how many dead Margaret Fuller's does it take?


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I'd put Henry Miller in there.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:26 am | #


Heh. Yeah, I'd say so too. Anais Nin too, for good measure.


GravatarAny reason I shouldn't follow up a bottle of cabernet with some tequila?
Phila


My stomach would have something to say about that.

But that's just me.


GravatarJames's assertion that he was creating a brand new form (!!!)

Are you serious? I had no idea. Man, that's delusional.

I mean, the ghost story attained near-perfection in long before he came along, and he added nothing to it. Almost every practicioner is better than him, from Vernon Lee to (I shudder to say it) Baring-Gould.


GravatarMIKE...Stnd in repsect and awe before Moby Dick you big dummy.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 10.07.06 - 2:19 am |

wtf? I'd like to read it. It is too much eyestrain and effort to read it for myself. audiobooks are ok I guess but doesn't give the fine grain control I can get by reading.


Gravatarthe captivity narrative is the narrative of the 19th century.

Tell it to Mary Rowlandson, baby. A couple centuries off, she'd say.


Gravatarthe captivity narrative is the narrative of the 19th century.

I guess so -- i tend to think of it as a Mary Rowlandson(sp?) kind of thing.


GravatarMy stomach would have something to say about that.

But that's just me.
geoduck | 10.07.06 - 2:28 am | #


I don't think it is. A little angel perched on my shoulder is cautioning me against it...


GravatarIt is too much eyestrain and effort to read it for myself.

WTF?


GravatarLouisa May Alcott's gothic stuff is quite interesting.


Behind a Mask -- much fun.


GravatarIn ever asserted nothing


GravatarAP refers to foley as a dem.
fox refers to foley as a dem.
Now cnn refers to crane as a dem.

Is anybody outraged at such a blatent abuse of their journalistic powers?


GravatarLast year, I had the occassion to visit the US Embassey. It was a small peaceful western country but the embassey was like a fortress. There was a nice entrance which had been permanently shut, replaced by a guard hut where they emptied your pockets, scanned you, also rubbed paper over your hands and scanned the paper before directing you to a back entrance. Across the street the local police had rigged a trailer. Guards and police all carried submachineguns with the clips doubled for quick'n'easy reloading.

Most US Embassies are fortresses. I've only been inside three: In Honduras, El Salvador, and the Republic of Korea.

They have to be. A lot of people have hated the United States, particularly our rapacious commerical interests that are in practice little better than locusts.


GravatarBehind a Mask -- much fun.
geoduck | 10.07.06 - 2:31 am | #


Yeah, I like that stuff. There's also a story that makes fun of her old man...can't remember the name, but it's a fascinating portrait of transcendentalist utopianism. Even though I like a lot of that stuff, it really makes you feel how stultifying some of those guys must've been in day to day life.


GravatarIt is too much eyestrain and effort to read it for myself. audiobooks are ok I guess but doesn't give the fine grain control I can get by reading.
Mike


Are your eyes ok? Sometimes people need glasses or a new perscription & don't know it.

Honestly, with Moby Dick I always skip the chapters on whale blubber & how to skin a whale & such because i want to keep reading the narrative. (but this is rather frowned upon by many, many people.)


GravatarThe Gothic sublime was perfected well before silly Mr James.

Vathek, The Monk, The Italian, hell, even the pseudo gothic Northanger Abbey.

All way better than James.


GravatarThe Catholic Church is in the intial stages of invstingating Hawthorne's daughter for Sainthood. Goddamn..the Melvill e and Hawthorne on exhibit it Clarel woiuld be freaked out.


GravatarOK, all this 19th century literature chat is making me, a history major who avoided lit like the plauge after getting the freshman stuff out of the way down.

Now, on the BSG season premiere:

Yeah, the allegory is there. The barely human Freepers even picked up on it, understanding precisely what it's an allegory to, and they don't like it. Funny that they loved Red Dawn so much. Tigh said something profound: ordering people into combat is little different than asking someone to volunteer to be a suicide bomber. Once you've done it, it's the same thing.


GravatarIt is too much eyestrain and effort to read it for myself.

WTF?
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:30 am | #

It just is, for me. It wasn't a comment on the worthiness of the novel.


GravatarHonestly, with Moby Dick I always skip the chapters on whale blubber & how to skin a whale & such because i want to keep reading the narrative. (but this is rather frowned upon by many, many people.)
geoduck | 10.07.06 - 2:33 am | #


Doesn't bother me....it's your choice. But a while back, they put out a heavily edited version of "Pierre," which I thought was totally contemptible.

As far as I'm concerned, you can learn more from Melville's failures than most authors' successes, and it really pissed me off that these schmucks felt themselves capable of editing him.


GravatarA little angel perched on my shoulder is cautioning me against it...

ah - listen to the angel. It makes morning ever so much more pleasant.

There's also a story that makes fun of her old man...can't remember the name, but it's a fascinating portrait of transcendentalist utopianism. Phila

I gotta read that. I do wonder about the gender dynamics in the Concord revolution. Wasn't Alcott rather put upon by her father to earn money for the family? I could be remembering this all wrong, though.


GravatarHitler's sister said Hitler used to slap her in the face.
spawn
===

He used to have his niece shit on him.


GravatarIt is too much eyestrain and effort to read it for myself.

WTF?
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:30 am | #

It just is, for me. It wasn't a comment on the worthiness of the novel.
Mike | 10.07.06 - 2:36 am | #


So, you will not, between now and the time you die, read a few hundred pages of text, b/c it's too hard on the eyes?


GravatarThat fucking book killed Melville. He put everytning in and people shit on it. FUCK THEM.


Gravatar
As far as I'm concerned, you can learn more from Melville's failures than most authors' successes, and it really pissed me off that these schmucks felt themselves capable of editing him.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:36 am | #


Ew. Yeah, reading edited Melville is a horrifying idea.

He's best when he's just allowed to ramble on and on.

He's he ideal example of H.G. Wells's notion that the novel should be a baggy monster (love "Tono-Bungay.")


GravatarMost US Embassies are fortresses. I've only been inside three: In Honduras, El Salvador, and the Republic of Korea.

They have to be...Apprentice to Darth Holden | 10.07.06 - 2:32 am | #


It wasn't the fortress aspect I minded as much as the total lack of protection for the crowd waiting to get in. It made me think of all those attacks in Iraq where a line of police recruits gets blown up.


GravatarVathek, The Monk, The Italian, hell, even the pseudo gothic Northanger Abbey.

Melmoth the Wanderer!

But never mind the gothic stuff...if it's the psychological ghost story we're talking about, even Kipling blew James out of the water with stories like "They" or "The House-Surgeon." Or Bulwer-Lytton (whom I referred to as Baring-Gould, above) with "The House and the Brain."

Oliver Onions, W.H. Hodgson, A.N.L. Munby, Robert W. Chambers, Julian Hawthorne...don't even get me started. For that matter, a paragraph from one of Sarah Orne Jewett's ghost stories puts James in the shade.


GravatarAs far as I'm concerned, you can learn more from Melville's failures than most authors' successes

Yes, Melville is one of the best. I particularly love his short stories.

James, I think, is better used as a historical primary source, then as an example of great writing.

It just is, for me. It wasn't a comment on the worthiness of the novel.
Mike


I wonder if learning skiming techniques would help. I'm teaching some of them to my niece, and she is now enjoying reading fiction much more then she was a year ago. She was also talking to me about how it hurt her eyes. (I found out she was reading in a very verbal way -- and it was really slowing down her reading speed & making it more difficult for her to read quickly.)


GravatarAs far as I'm concerned, you can learn more from Melville's failures than most authors' successes

Yes, Melville is one of the best. I particularly love his short stories.

James, I think, is better used as a historical primary source, then as an example of great writing.

It just is, for me. It wasn't a comment on the worthiness of the novel.
Mike


I wonder if learning skiming techniques would help. I'm teaching some of them to my niece, and she is now enjoying reading fiction much more then she was a year ago. She was also talking to me about how it hurt her eyes. (I found out she was reading in a very verbal way -- and it was really slowing down her reading speed & making it more difficult for her to read quickly.)


Gravatartheodore parker
george ripley
jones very


GravatarHe's he ideal example of H.G. Wells's notion that the novel should be a baggy monster (love "Tono-Bungay.")
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:40 am | #


Yeah, I think we've agreed on this before.

You should really check out Marilynne Robinson's "Mother Country," if you ever have the time.


Gravatarhenry james, the Bobo of the early late 19th century.


GravatarI cannot hear thy voice with other’s ears,
Who make of thy lost liberty a gain;
And in thy tale of blighted hopes and fears
Feel not that every note is born with pain.
Alas! That with thy music’s gentle swell
Past days of joy should through thy memory throng,
And each to thee their words of sorrow tell
While ravished sense forgets thee in thy song.
The heart that on thy past and future feeds,
And pours in human words its thoughts divine,
Though at each birth the spirit inly bleeds,
Its song may charm the listening ear like thine,
And men with gilded cage and praise will try
To make the bard like thee forget his native sky.


GravatarWhey the ehll does anyone have to read quickly? Its like fucking quickly.


GravatarDo they think Ronald Moore is going to be intimidated by their cheeto eating asses? Dream on, you douchebags.

Ron Moore eats that shit up.

He's a fracking genius. He was TNG/DS9's "Klingon Guy". The man is brilliant.

I remember back in 93, when the Sideshow Bob for Mayor ep of the Simpsons ran. Some GOP twit got all pissed on alt.fan.tv.simpsons, and Groening quoted this moron verbatim in a "Life in Hell" shortly thereafter and celebrated that he had indeed provoked the fucktard demographic with that episode.

Eat hot Colonial rounds, Freeper scum.


Gravatar
But never mind the gothic stuff...if it's the psychological ghost story we're talking about, even Kipling blew James out of the water with stories like "They" or "The House-Surgeon." Or Bulwer-Lytton (whom I referred to as Baring-Gould, above) with "The House and the Brain."


Yeah, who's this "we," buddy?

Kidding, of course. Wilkie Collins also springs to mind, on another tangent... which reminds me of the most horrific diss defense story ever, but I've told that tale here before, so I shan't iterate it.


GravatarIt is not life upon Thy gifts to live,
But, to grow fixed with deeper roots in Thee;
And when the sun and shower their bounties give,
To send out thick-leaved limbs; a fruitful tree,
Whose green head meets the eye for many a mile,
Whose moss-grown arms their rigid branches rear,
And full-faced fruits their blushing welcome smile
As to its goodly shade our feet draw near;
Who tastes its gifts shall never hunger more,
For 'tis the Father spreads the pure repast,
Who, while we eat, renews the ready store,
Which at his bounteous board must ever last;
For none the bridegroom's supper shall attend,
Who will not hear and make his word their friend


GravatarOK, so who here has had the puzzling experience of reading Nathaniel P. Willis?


GravatarBarbara Pym, overlooked, imho.


GravatarSome medications make it damned near impossible to enjoy reading, if not nearly impossible to read. I grew up in a bookstore -- literally, since my parents owned one and I was pressed into service 6 days a week -- and I was a voracious reader all of my life.

I can barely read a paragraph in a magazine today without losing my place, and I know for a fact that this problem is due to medication.

Not all who want to know can also read. Being read to is the most wonderful thing on Earth, and one of the hardest services to come by. I, too, would be lost without audio books.


GravatarSo, you will not, between now and the time you die, read a few hundred pages of text, b/c it's too hard on the eyes?
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:38 am | #


Who knows. also, not 'the eyes' but 'my eyes'


GravatarWilkie Collins also springs to mind, on another tangent... which reminds me of the most horrific diss defense story ever, but I've told that tale here before, so I shan't iterate it.
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:44 am | #


I remember it. Bloodcurdling.


GravatarBiggest Hassle — High-ranking visitors. More disruptive to work than a rocket attack. VIPs demand briefs and "battlefield" tours (we take them to quiet sections of Fallujah, which is plenty scary for them). Our briefs and commentary seem to have no effect on their preconceived notions of what's going on in Iraq. Their trips allow them to say that they've been to Fallujah, which gives them an unfortunate degree of credibility in perpetuating their fantasies about the insurgency here.

Biggest Outrage — Practically anything said by talking heads on TV about the war in Iraq, not that I get to watch much TV. Their thoughts are consistently both grossly simplistic and politically slanted. Biggest Offender: Bill O'Reilly.

http://www.time.com/time/world/a...43658- 3,00.html


GravatarAugustine thought the Bishop was a freek because he read silently.


GravatarBarbara Pym, overlooked, imho.
Sarah Deere, Shrill One | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:45 am | #


Not as overlooked as Barbara Comyns, though. If you ever come across one of her books, I beg you to buy it and read it. One of the greatest writers of the 20th c for my money.


Gravatar
Who knows. also, not 'the eyes' but 'my eyes'
Mike | 10.07.06 - 2:46 am | #


Sorry.

"Your eyes."


GravatarWhy oh why didn't I buy another bottle? Dang me, as Roger Miller would say...


Gravatar"Your eyes."
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:48 am | #


If he's got weak eyes, what he's saying makes sense...I assume that's what he's going on about.


GravatarHastert will never resign.


GravatarBlogger Bloggered - A Reply To Post Above Re: Democratic Media Presence Here


GravatarNot all who want to know can also read. Being read to is the most wonderful thing on Earth, and one of the hardest services to come by. I, too, would be lost without audio books.
anonymous


I didn't understand this a year ago before starting to work with my niece and learning more about reading. I have almost instant visual translation from words to image when I read fiction, so was very confusing for me to understand how reading could be so difficult for her.

audio books drive me crazy because they don't go fast enough.

Poetry is different for me - I love that read out loud.


GravatarTHis reminds me of horrible perter Gabriel song.


GravatarChanging the subject to the lively arts, I hope everyone will watch the movie I linked to at my place, entitled Fingers and Holes in a Shaken Cornstarch Solution.


GravatarHastert will never resign.
ann | 10.07.06 - 2:49 am | #


Good. I'd rather watch the fat fuck burn in the castle.

Metaphorically speaking, of course.


GravatarYeah, maybe, Phila, but there's large print and books on tape and so on, and he did post this earlier:

"I'm still trying to find the time to watch several hundred megabytes of technical presentation videos I download every week or so.
Mike | 10.07.06 - 1:48 am | # "

So I reckon the eyes, his eyes, are fine. Anyway, I didn't mean to harass you, Mike.

Sorry.


GravatarYeah, maybe, Phila, but there's large print and books on tape and so on, and he did post this earlier:

I shoulda known.


Gravatar"audio books drive me crazy because they don't go fast enough."

I want variance, not pure speed. I am a very verbal reader and can easily go off on tangents. It seems some people here think I need to suffer to show respect towards classic novels.


GravatarPublic Service Announcement:

If you are blind, or legally blind, or dyslexic, or physically handicapped, you can get books on tape for free.

Check out the Talking Books Program. Every state has one.


GravatarNot as overlooked as Barbara Comyns, though. If you ever come across one of her books, I beg you to buy it and read it. One of the greatest writers of the 20th c for my money.
Phila

Phila, so noted. I have sent myself an email, w/reminder to look for.

Many thanks.


GravatarWonder what MAF54 is doing right now
gadaddy

he has positioned himself between the mattress and boxsprings and is sucking his thumb, frantically.


Gravatarentitled Fingers and Holes in a Shaken Cornstarch Solution.
Phila


this i gotta see.

Tonight I saw In the Mood for Love. Visually it was amazing.


GravatarUSe a magnifying glass for chrissake.


GravatarHastert will never resign.
ann

Wanna bet the farm?


GravatarPhila, so noted. I have sent myself an email, w/reminder to look for.

Many thanks.
Sarah Deere, Shrill One | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:54 am | #


My advice is, give preferential treatment to:

Sisters By a River
Who Was Changed and Who Was Dead
Our Spoons Came From Woolworth's
The Vet's Daughter


GravatarSorry.
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:52 am | #

No prob. Also, I can ready easily off a LCD, and OS X's antialiasing is great. Books and magazines are more difficult for me. I read a ton when I was younger.


GravatarTonight I saw In the Mood for Love. Visually it was amazing.
geoduck | 10.07.06 - 2:56 am | #


I've never actually seen any of his stuff, and I guess I should.

Actually, I saw a very strange occult HK film called "Saviour of the Soul," which I think he had something to do with...very very odd. But that's it.


GravatarPhila, thanks for the titles. Have sent second email to self


GravatarIt is too much eyestrain and effort to read it for myself.

Would large print help? I'd bet cash money your local library has a large-print edition of a classic like Moby Dick.


GravatarI am a very verbal reader and can easily go off on tangents. Mike

That makes sense.

Reading silently is a vastly different experience for people. I find the pedagogy of reading quite interested because there are several different ways to read silently. People read differently, and thus experience the consumption of literature in a variety of ways.


GravatarChanging the subject to the lively arts, I hope everyone will watch the movie I linked to at my place, entitled Fingers and Holes in a Shaken Cornstarch Solution.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:51 am | #


Speaking of the lively arts, I'm hoping to go see this show tomorrow night...

(The photos on this site, by the way, were all taken by my friend, who also did my wedding pictures...)


GravatarI've never actually seen any of his stuff, and I guess I should. Phila

Well, I didn't love the film -- but I did enjoy it.


GravatarQuestion: (apologies for being such a schtupe) I really, really want to find lyrics for Mutual Admiration Society lyrics, a sing from a musical called "Happy Hunting".

I futzed around this afternoon (and at work!!!) trying to locate, but could not find.

If anyone is better at searching than I am, I would must assuredly appreciate guidance.

Thanks,
SD


GravatarSpeaking of the lively arts, I'm hoping to go see this show tomorrow night...

Purple hair and cleavage...boy, that takes me back. Reminds me of one of my few regrets from pre-married life.


GravatarUSe a magnifying glass for chrissake.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 10.07.06 - 2:56 am | #


That wouldn't help me, or anyone else taking certain anti-seizure medications; specifically, carbamazepine.

Not only has reading become confusing and frustrating, but I cannot verbal recount my dreams anymore, even though I can replay them in my mind's eye. Not that it really matters, but it is a curious side effect that tells me that the drug is having some kind of effect on the left hemisphere/right hemisphere communication in my brain that goes beyond merely preventing seizures.


Gravatar Also, I can ready easily off a LCD, and OS X's antialiasing is great. Books and magazines are more difficult for me.

If that's the case, try Project Gutenberg. They have all the classics in a bunch of different formats for reading on your computer.

Just don't try to read it in the bathtub!


GravatarSarah:

Here ya go.


GravatarChanging the subject to the lively arts, I hope everyone will watch the movie I linked to at my place, entitled Fingers and Holes in a Shaken Cornstarch Solution.

I just read that post and now my brain is tired.



GravatarPeople read differently, and thus experience the consumption of literature in a variety of ways.
geoduck | 10.07.06 - 2:59 am | #


It took me over a year to get thru SRD's Dhalgren but I read Cory Doctorow's Down and out in the magic kingdom in one sitting using downloaded pdf's on-screen


GravatarPurple hair and cleavage...boy, that takes me back. Reminds me of one of my few regrets from pre-married life.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:02 am | #


Good times, eh?

Also, I can ready easily off a LCD, and OS X's antialiasing is great. Books and magazines are more difficult for me.

If that's the case, try Project Gutenberg. They have all the classics in a bunch of different formats for reading on your computer.


Odd coincidence: I actually manage a team of nearly 100 people on a project to put books online.


GravatarI just read that post and now my brain is tired.


fourlegsgood | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:03 am | #


Try writing it.


GravatarGood times, eh?

I'll never know. Probably a mixture of good and bad.


GravatarQuestion: (apologies for being such a schtupe) I really, really want to find lyrics for Mutual Admiration Society lyrics, a sing from a musical called "Happy Hunting". = I really, really want to find lyrics for Mutual Admiration Society, a song from a musical called "Happy Hunting."

Nuts!!!


Gravatarderrida gets the margaret fuller treatment. go gators!


I guess I'll have to adjust my schedule, given the needs of my monsters...

j. hillis miller, gaby schwab, et alia. cixous. who was doing the pre-puiblicity? nada moi.

go go go Department of Germanic and Slavic Studies. a gss conference introduced by a Dean who has just eliminated the funding for the Department of Germanic and Slavic Studies.

that's my Boss!


GravatarSarah, look above. I already posted a link for you.


GravatarTry writing it.

Not this week. I'm juggling about 10 different projects at once.

And my boss is a boob.

My webmaster took my archive down cause it was "old" information.

I'm going to have to drop my photography class because I don't have time for it.

On the bright side, tonight's nudibranch was lovely and Mr. Plushy just ate a huge midnight snacky-snack.


Gravatar
I'll never know. Probably a mixture of good and bad.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:05 am | #


"I'll never know" are three of the saddest words in the language...


GravatarIt took me over a year to get thru SRD's Dhalgren but I read Cory Doctorow's Down and out in the magic kingdom in one sitting using downloaded pdf's on-screen
Mike


That's fantastic!

Actually, one of the exercises recommended for my niece, was to scroll down script for her on a screen, because it picked up her reading speed. There's a correlation between a faster reading speed & reading comprehension/retention, too.


Gravatar"I'll never know" are three of the saddest words in the language...
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:07 am | #


I think I dodged a bullet, really. Not easy, either...it was one of those heat-seeking ones.


GravatarPurple hair and cleavage...boy, that takes me back. Reminds me of one of my few regrets from pre-married life.
Phila |

oh, honeychile!! A story I'd like to hear.

At my age, I have some regrets myself - but, mercifully (because I have not been...contained), not too many. I intended long ago to rock on my front porch and have many good memories to recall.


Gravatarand Mr. Plushy just ate a huge midnight snacky-snack.
fourlegsgood


He has a good life.

My cat's newest mischief is to ballance himself on the very top of my typing chair & chew on my hair.


GravatarI tried to read SRD's Triton. I really tried. But damn, it put me to sleep.


GravatarHe has a good life.

My cat's newest mischief is to ballance himself on the very top of my typing chair & chew on my hair.


Excellent.

I have resorted to stealth dosing to give Maxx his meds.


GravatarCrane misidentified as a Democrat by CNN. Pathetic, or malicious?

"Barton was referring to Democratic Reps. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts and Dan Crane of Illinois, both of whom were censured after having sexual relationships with 17-year-old pages. Crane lost his re-election bid, while Studds survived the scandal."

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/dotcom/


GravatarSarah:

Here ya go.
Phila

Phila!!! Dang!!!

Thanks so much - XXOO/SD


GravatarI think I dodged a bullet, really. Not easy, either...it was one of those heat-seeking ones.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:08 am | #


Understood. I would have done well to have dodged a certain bullet back in New Orleans, but instead, I chose to live with her for several years...

You're wiser than I.


GravatarUnderstood. I would have done well to have dodged a certain bullet back in New Orleans, but instead, I chose to live with her for several years...

I have been known to run out in front of the gun, waving my arms and yelling, "over here! over here!"

I think those days are over.


GravatarI have resorted to stealth dosing to give Maxx his meds.
fourlegsgood


When I had to give mine liquid antibiotics, he very quickly learned what the syringe looked like & ran under the bed.

Smart little bastards.


Gravatar"That's fantastic! "

Urgh, not really. I read Dhalgren many years ago, so no eye issues, just a really motherfu*king difficult book to read.

Apparently, it's been re-edited a number of times and wikipedia says the later editions are much better


GravatarWhen I had to give mine liquid antibiotics, he very quickly learned what the syringe looked like & ran under the bed.

Smart little bastards.


Maxx can identify the sound of me filling the syringe.

I have resorted to running the fawcet and then sneaking up on him.


GravatarWell, this centaur is exhausted. What a long week.


Gravataroh, honeychile!! A story I'd like to hear.

Nothing much to it. I was pursued very avidly by a shapely young (i.e., 17) thing with purple hair and plenty o' thems and those. Didn't do anything 'cause I was involved with a lying, cheating harridan, though my knuckles still have scars from gnawing 'em in the wee small hours.

The thing is, she was very moody, and actually had conniptions when I went into the cafe where she worked with a (chaste) female friend. It seemed like it would've been a bit too much of a rollercoaster ride, and being as I was about 30 at the time, I had no stomach for it.


GravatarI have been known to run out in front of the gun, waving my arms and yelling, "over here! over here!"

4LG -

Me, too!!!

Idiots!!!


GravatarI have resorted to running the fawcet and then sneaking up on him.

That was you!?

I had a great time, by the way.


GravatarMaxx can identify the sound of me filling the syringe.
fourlegsgood

oh, I read that and laughed.

ah - the little princes. What big ears they have.


GravatarMe, too!!!

Idiots!!!


Oh, well.

I've rarely been bored.


GravatarI tried to read SRD's Triton. I really tried. But damn, it put me to sleep.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 10.07.06 - 3:09 am | #

I took almost a year to read Triton. But I remember it much more and got a lot more out of it than Dhalgren.


Gravatar There's a correlation between a faster reading speed & reading comprehension/retention, too.

Really? Because I can suck a book down, but I feel like I remember nothing a week later.


Gravatarvery


GravatarGood point. (Not wingnuttery.)

Underwhelming scandal


GravatarOnce I dose him he's just fine. He has a snacky-snack and then goes off for a nap.

Or else he runs over and scratches on his post and then bats at his particle accelerator.

No doubt in celebration of the fact that I squirted that stuff in his mouth and he survived the ordeal.


GravatarPhila. Knots. Tied up in, you.

"my knuckles still have scars from gnawing 'em in the wee small hours"

Yep, know that one, though, being female, reacted differently, though result was the same, just different body parts/hunks of psyche cannibalized.

Are you happy, now? I hope so. You truly are Somebody.

Best, SD


GravatarOh, well.

I've rarely been bored.
fourlegsgood | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:16 am | #


Same here. Nothing quite so exciting as watching the cops haul off your live-in girlfriend while you sit there, bleeding!

Twice!


I took almost a year to read Triton.


Triton's a brilliant, weird book. I'm actually mentioning it at a presentation I'm doing on 70s sci-fi at a Marxist conference in a few weeks.


GravatarAh sometimes I wished I hadn't dodged bullets that I dodged.


GravatarReally? Because I can suck a book down, but I feel like I remember nothing a week later.

Silly, you're supposed to read them, not eat them.


GravatarAre you happy, now? I hope so.

Romancewise? Ecstatically and unprecedently.

I'm a hopeless melancholic other than that. But I'm used to it. I tune out the voices in my head, usually.


GravatarWell, goodnight all.


GravatarI've rarely been bored.
fourlegsgood

same goes for me. Older I get, it's a word that has less and less meaning. Too much to do, too much fun to have. And, honestly, that's not bs.


GravatarI tune out the voices in my head, usually.
Phila | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:20 am | #


No wonder I've been feeling ignored lately!


GravatarUnprecedentedly.

Hmm. Not a proper word, I'm thinking. Maybe I don't need any more booze after all.


GravatarOnce I dose him he's just fine. He has a snacky-snack and then goes off for a nap.
fourlegsgood


ha! yeah after the dose mine was just dandy.

And there was liquid antibiotics all over the bed, and the carpet, and my clothing, and his fur. Very little in his little kitty stomach, i fear.


GravatarNo wonder I've been feeling ignored lately!
rorschach | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:21 am | #


Nah. You're more pictures than voices.


GravatarRequested from abive...

Lyrics - Mutual Admiration Society

http://www.top40db.net/Lyrics/?S...&By=Year& Match=


GravatarSilly, you're supposed to read them, not eat them.
fourlegsgood


I eat them. I don't understand how to read a book for more then a couple of days, much less a year. It's rather unhealthy of me.

Night 4legs.


GravatarA kike, an irishman, a black, an asian, a wop and a spick.
That's what i call a balanced ticket.


GravatarI'm gonna go watch some Betty Boop cartoons and then hit the hay. G'night, friends.

XOXO,


GravatarG'night, Phila.

Always a pleasure.


GravatarReally? Because I can suck a book down, but I feel like I remember nothing a week later.
hamletta


for me it depends on the book. If it's pulp fiction, I will forget the book.

If it's a good book, well written, ect. I will remember it. (think something like Invisible Man, for example.)

I get addicted to the book & then I won't put it down.


GravatarI'm a hopeless melancholic other than that. But I'm used to it. I tune out the voices in my head, usually.
Phila |

Understood, completely. It makes me happy that you are happy. Weird, that. We do not know each other from a jar of Vicks, so to speak, but I feel a resonance, and it warms my soul to know you are well, for whatever it's worth.

I feel that way about so many here. Ror, that would include you !!


Gravataryep - I better turn in too.

night all.


Gravatar(think something like Invisible Man, for example.)

That is an incredible book.

But I have serious issues with it, though.


GravatarThank ya, Deere!


GravatarA kike, an irishman, a black, an asian, a wop and a spick.
That's what i call a balanced ticket.
larry

No, that would be a kike, a mick, a nigger, a gook, a wop, and a spic.

That's "balance", whiteBoy style.


GravatarSarah Deere, Shrill One

Lyrics for Mutual Admiration Society @ 3:22 if you missed it.

Happy Hunting (1956). It seems like 50 years have gone by...Wait, 50 years have gone by!


.


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No, that would be a kike, a mick, a nigger, a gook, a wop, and a spic.

That's "balance", whiteBoy style.
Sarah Deere, Shrill One | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:29 am | #


As a queer, I find this offensive.


Gravatar"Why make a knife pass between two texts? Why, at least, write two texts at once? What scene is being played? What is desired? In other words, what is there to be afraid of? who is afraid? of whom? There is a wish to make writing ungraspable, of course. When your head is full of the matters here you are reminded that the law of the text is in the other, and so on endlessly. By knocking up the margin - (no) more margin, (no) more frame - one annuls it, blurs the line, takes back from you the standard rule that would enable you to delimit, to cut up, to dominate. You are no longer let know where the head of this discourse is, or the body, the neck is dissimulated from you so that you cannot bear your own." (64b)


GravatarJones Very:

Okay, you've read a little Derrida. Point?


Gravatar"Oh my God, the dead have risen and are voting Republican!"


Gravatar"You were Ronnie to his Nancy!"

"Sonny to his Cher!"

"Ringo to his rest of the Beatles!"


Gravatar reading derrida is nothing compared to hearing his ghost.

or being not being , being a comma after listening to him, then surfing at the wedge, th3e coron clifs, 1,000 steps...

ghost dhances, my teacher, teh paper machine.

god bless my teachers soul, en abeyance the soul of Heidegger

derrida killed no one
not derrida
killed many


fuck this vERY killing machine, even of paper


GravatarAs a queer, I find this offensive.
rorschach


I don't believe that. With a rack like Miriam's around, there's just NO way.


GravatarI don't believe that. With a rack like Miriam's around, there's just NO way.
Pitchforks & Torches | 10.07.06 - 3:55 am | #


Queer as in bi, not as in gay.

And now it just means that there's twice as many folks with whom I don't cheat on her. Or her fabulous rack!


GravatarHey, Rorschach.

Still up to your usual sleeping habits, eh?


GravatarHey, Rorschach.

Still up to your usual sleeping habits, eh?
DWD- Fortified with Resolve | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 4:04 am | #


So it would seem.

And yourself as well...


GravatarYeah, the pain pills only work for so long - then need to be replaced.

My sons just got back from Detroit: they are still pumped up after the game.


GravatarYeah, the pain pills only work for so long - then need to be replaced.

My sons just got back from Detroit: they are still pumped up after the game.
DWD- Fortified with Resolve | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 4:10 am | #


That's a drag.

I am imagining Austin will be quiet this weekend, given the TX-OU game...

I just wish they'd show the Saints on Sunday, dammit! The Cowboys and the Texans suck! Admit it!


GravatarWell, I reckon now that I've put everyone else to sleep, I should to the same for myself.


GravatarWell, I reckon now that I've put everyone else to sleep, I should to the same for myself.
rorschach

Not so fast. It's a nuit blanch for me too.


Gravatari've read a little lacan.

i don't have a point.

this is that special time, when it could be really late, or really early.


GravatarRorschach,

Yeah, me too: the Ibuprofin is working. (This is actually a drug that makes it possible to work and such. The Endocet just would not work with teaching, you know?)


GravatarYeah, me too: the Ibuprofin is working. (This is actually a drug that makes it possible to work and such.

I can't take Ibuprofin, it does something strange to my mind. I've heard other people say the same thing.


GravatarNot so fast. It's a nuit blanch for me too.
olvlzl | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 4:18 am | #


Well, then. That changes everything!

i've read a little lacan.

I've gotcher objet petit a swingin', buddy. Wait,that didn't come out right...

the Ibuprofin is working. (This is actually a drug that makes it possible to work and such. The Endocet just would not work with teaching, you know?)

Glad to hear it. You can still teach on Endocet, but just what exactly you do teach will likely remain a hazy mystery to you... all the more fun.


GravatarAnd on that note, then...


GravatarTexans suck! Admit it!

Texas sucks. Texans suck. Period.

I saw a scribble on a bathroom stall at Drexel University in Philadelphia decades ago... it's a hotbed of Texas haters...

Here I sit, buns'a flexin', givin' birth to another...Texan!!!


GravatarHi P&T. Damn I like Incog a lot, but he told me off, I'm POed. I was perfectly polite on the phone with him, he, possibly drunk, said "Christopher, I don't wan't to speak to you anymore." WTF? I hung up fast, not wanting anything worse. I don't know what to do about this


GravatarLooking at the times, seems like I'm the only one around


GravatarFirst, one must HAVE a mind that can be controlled.
When journalist's become less caring about facts than casual blogger's, we all ought to be concerned.
I''m not shocked by the "F"-word News, it's the others that worry me.
Tear apart the media conglomerate's! If not, I'll


GravatarPunt. That'd be my advise.


GravatarG'night, all. Tomorrow? Hey - Another Day!!!

Keep your strength up.

Sweet dreams.


GravatarDraco...dear, hugs.

SD


GravatarSweet dreams??? That's nice but I'm just waking up. Maybe some sleep later today


GravatarSarah D--best wishes if you're still about.


GravatarIs nobody here? I keep going to other sites looking back


GravatarYo BD, just started fooling with a mandolin. Strange to play things backwards.


GravatarI really do love reading Glenn Greenwald.

None of the standard obfuscation tactics used for so long by Bush followers are working here. To the contrary, their attempted use of those tactics is making things much worse for them, because people can see that Bush followers are attempting -- through the use of patently dishonest and corrupt tactics -- to excuse the inexcusable. And seeing that, it gives great credence to all of the accusations voiced over the last five years that this is how the Bush movement operates in every area, because people can now see it for themselves.


GravatarHere's a map showing from which states casualties are from.

Lays out pretty clearly which states are fighting for American feance and peance.


GravatarHmm, sneaky early morning sheets.


GravatarPainful as it is, I have to give Tweety brownie points recently for resisting the GOP mind control. Maybe there is a miracle drug that he took, or maybe he's detecting a mighty wind that will occur on November 7.

Either way, it's refreshing.


GravatarHoly Christ, look at the concentration of casualties on both coasts compared to the middle of the country. Even with the population and relative minority concentrations on the coasts, the losses are clearly disproportionate.


Gravatar"Holy Christ, look at the concentration of casualties on both coasts compared to the middle of the country. Even with the population and relative minority concentrations on the coasts, the losses are clearly disproportionate."

Don't forget the Third Coast. Actually, it's just a population map of the US. It's the city boys who are fighting this one--no wonder the hinterland is full of virtuous joy.


GravatarI saw a scribble on a bathroom stall at Drexel University in Philadelphia decades ago... it's a hotbed of Texas haters...

The Philly area seems to be a font of creativity when it comes to commode graffiti work. Many moons ago I saw something on a bathroom wall in Swarthmore:

Why change dicks when you're getting a screw,
Vote for Nixon in '72.


GravatarParis Hilton is SUCH a slut!
Tinkle Tool


Yeah, jerkoff - we KNOW that.


GravatarBattleStar Iraq - and guess who the cylons are?


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