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have a good trip
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Adios, Chief. Safe travels.
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It's a great time for putting the cabal out of office. Full moon and all.
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While you'e traveling, come to Muskegon, Michigan next weekend and hang out with Vicki, Feral Liberal, Nim and whoever else may show up.
Bet it'll be a good time.
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from link; 'So CNN decided it was appropriate to allow government officials to hide behind anonymous quotes in order to accuse a private citizen of, essentially, obstructing justice.
But when that private citizen rebuts those accusations with an on-the-record, on-camera statement about who she tried to reach at the FBI, CNN edits the comments to conceal the FBI agent's identity.'
This is getting pretty amazing. The false accusations are reported, not the actual facts. CNN, Fair and Balanced no longer.
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Of pride and protection rackets.
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First caller on CSpan: 'I'm a recovering Republican.'
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The great Buck O'Neil died last night, a month before his 95th birthday. His denial in to the baseball Hall of Fame was a crime, but he took it so well.....
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Secret trial for David Keogh and Leo O'Connor over the Al Jazeera memo leak
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And here I was posting away on a dead thread.
Met up with a bunch of liberal elitists last night. Good times.
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And here I was posting away on a dead thread.
Met up with a bunch of liberal elitists last night. Good times.
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OT: Blunkett: how I cracked under the strain of scandal
· Ex-home secretary says he was clinically depressed
· He admits he failed to question Iraq intelligence
David Blunkett today reveals the full extent of his emotional turmoil at the time of his resignation as home secretary, admitting that he "cracked" and that "at one point I really did think I was going mad".
He recalls: "My whole world was collapsing around me. I was under the most horrendous pressure. I was barely sleeping, and yet I was being asked to sign government warrants in the middle of the night. My physical and emotional health had cracked."
Mr Blunkett concedes that he threw himself too much into his work: "I probably overdid it, compared with colleagues," he says. "In the early part of last year, after my resignation as home secretary, I was probably clinically depressed." He rejected the offer of antidepressants from a House of Commons doctor.
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Day one Pelosi, break link between lobbyists and legislation, Day two enact 911 commission recommendations. Absolutely. But Day Three, how 'bout hearings on constitutionality of cretin in chief's signing statements.
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OT: Bomber attacks 'model' Iraqi city
A suicide attacker using a bomb-laden lorry has killed 14 people at an Iraqi army checkpoint in the city of Tal Afar, a medical source told the BBC.
Four soldiers and 10 civilians died in the blast in the northern city which US President George W Bush held up as a model in a speech in March.
The renewed violence comes as it appears the US may be considering a major change in policy on Iraq.
Reports of a change came after a visit to Iraq by a senior Republican senator.
Tal Afar, to the west of Mosul, was supposed to be a showcase for American-led efforts to pacify Iraq, the BBC's Frank Muir reports from Baghdad.
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Good Morning from trendy Fabulous Blue Ridge GA. It's foggy and 49 here on Sugar Creek..
My concern is that the Democratic establishment is simply not pushing back agains the Repuke Lies/claims of a plot.
Pelosi/Reid should be out in front flogging their accurate version of the story. CREW should be celebrated as a Public Interest group, and their message ("we gave this to the FBI as soon as we had it and they did nothing. Why NOT?") must be repeated and repeated.
It's like Sherlock Holmes "Dog that didn't bark in the night"...Why did the watchdogs of society in the FBI not bark at a highly placed predator?
What did Alberto know and when did he know it? Suggest AG Gonzales had a hand in the cover up, I mean, we've got as much evidence as the Pelosi bashers...
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Morning, bats.
We're coming to dinner tonight, then driving straight back. Mother Thersites is ailing and doesn't want to see us.
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Straw and the veil: second thoughts
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Hope all of you are well again, Molly I.
'And, by the way, isn't it strange that politicians who expressed moral objections to the desire of adult gays and lesbians to marry seemed to take the Foley matter so lightly when it first came to their attention? Where is the morality here?'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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Political considerations defeat 'family values'.
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Haster throws his CoS under the bus.
I've been wondering when he was gonna take the fall. Don't worry, Scott. I'm sure they'll find you a nice spot on a corporate board.
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Let's go Tigers!!
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Wow Moonbotica, I didn't know that Straw was partly deaf.
Because of terminal shyness, I have difficulty locking eyes with people when I'm speaking to them. A deaf guy gave me a lot of grief because he was unable to read lips..
To be deaf in a county that embraces the veil must be tough...
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I'm waiting to see if I can get other than SRO tix for today's game (aka handicapped seating).
I swore I'd never step foot in Comerica Park, but beating the Yankme's in the ALDS would be soooooooo worth it.
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Blair-Rice talks to focus on Iran
British PM Tony Blair is to discuss possible sanctions against Iran when he meets US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for talks at his Chequers home.
The five permanent UN Security Council members and Germany have been leading efforts to persuade Tehran to abandon its nuclear programme.
The countries' foreign ministers agreed on Friday to begin consultations on possible UN sanctions against Iran.
The talks could start next week, though China and Russia favour more diplomacy.
Western powers fear that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons, a charge Iran denies saying that it is simply trying to develop nuclear energy.
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We're coming to dinner tonight, then driving straight back. Mother Thersites is ailing and doesn't want to see us.
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Well that certainly sucks.
Don't know if we will make the dinner tonight. I had four beers last night.
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I've been getting these DVDs from Netflix: Democracy University. They're fabulous. I'm watching Greg Palast now.
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Hey, moonbootica, interesting tho't - veils as social hostility. No one that I heard commented on the Amish community dressing funny during the press invasion there this week.
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I had four beers last night -
Better put a couple of AA meetings in there somewhere today, QL...
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ql, it's twelve hours from now. You can do it!
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No one that I heard commented on the Amish community dressing funny during the press invasion there this week.
I didn't hear anyone suggest that the Amish girls were responsible for their attacker wanting to sexually molest them, come to that.
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You can do it!
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Yeah, but I may have to go to work today. It's supposed to be the start of my vacay. 
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Mo Do on Mark Foley. I was beginning to wonder when one of the Times' op-ed columnists would get around to writing about this.
Have a nice, safe trip, Duncan.
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Is Atrios coming to dinner tonight?
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yeah its a complex issue which no simply answer.
i believe no where in the Qu'ran is the veil mentioned, I suspect its a cultural pratice, the Byzantines and the Ancient Greeks were veiling their women long before Islam came along.
Islam asorbed and adapted the cultures which surrounded it.
it worked both ways also, as the Muslims forbid depictions of the prophet they realy on very pretty patterns, which are quite intricate, and this must of had some affect in the Byzantine Empire, when you look at the Iconoclasm period during the reign of Emperor Leo III the Syrian or "Isaurian," (reigned 717-741; born in eastern Anatolia).
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Don't know if we will make the dinner tonight. I had four beers last night.
Three gin-and-tonics for me, plus still all screwed up jet lag-wise. Felt like I was leaving my own party early, but just had to collapse. Still exhausted. Sitting here in a flannel robe and wool socks under a wool blanket and still freezing.
Is there anyone who is not in love with Athenae? Man. Woman. Gay. Straight. Entirely understandable why we all want to marry her.
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I really do love reading Glenn Greenwald.
None of the standard obfuscation tactics used for so long by Bush followers are working here. To the contrary, their attempted use of those tactics is making things much worse for them, because people can see that Bush followers are attempting -- through the use of patently dishonest and corrupt tactics -- to excuse the inexcusable. And seeing that, it gives great credence to all of the accusations voiced over the last five years that this is how the Bush movement operates in every area, because people can now see it for themselves.
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Why? Inquest wait goes on for families of dead soldiers
The Government has been accused of treating the families of dead servicemen with contempt and prolonging their agony by delaying inquests into their killings in Iraq.
For many grieving relatives, the coroner's court is their first chance to ask their own questions, while most insist it offers closure and a chance to move on.
But the families of almost two thirds of the 119 servicemen and women who have died in Iraq have not had inquests. Even the families of the first troops killed in the conflict, in a Sea Knight helicopter crash on 21 March 2003, have yet to have their day in court.
Ministers have repeatedly blamed a backlog at Oxford coroner's court as families were told that the inquests must be held there because the bodies were flown to RAF Brize Norton.
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Molly, I did see a comment on the Fox News site Thursday saying that the Amish were being punished by God though. Can you believe it?
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Is there anyone who is not in love with Athenae? Man. Woman. Gay. Straight. Entirely understandable why we all want to marry her.
Well, she's a goddess. I'm so glad she's around!
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yeah its a complex issue which no simply answer.
i believe no where in the Qu'ran is the veil mentioned, I suspect its a cultural pratice, the Byzantines and the Ancient Greeks were veiling their women long before Islam came along.
It isn't mentioned. The relevant verse says something like this:
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them when they go out or are among men."
So it all depends on what one means by "outer garments". There is nothing about the covering of the head in the Koran, either. And there is a very clear verse saying that men must dress modestly, too.
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Buck O'Neil has passed away. And with him, his precious memories of the Negro Leagues.
He made one of the greatest shames in American history palatable for fans of the great game. His smooth voice and sunny disposition will be remembered for as long as the game is played.
And shame on those who didn't vote this national treasure into the Baseball Hall of Fame while he was still alive. Shame! What were you thinking? Apparently, beatitude was not a virtue to you. It was to the rest of us. Mr. O'Neil, you will be sorely missed.
God bless you, Sir...
PS: How's Jackie hitting up there, and what's Satch's ERA this October?
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Molly, I did see a comment on the Fox News site Thursday saying that the Amish were being punished by God though.
It's official: conservatives have no souls.
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just can't read the Rummy op ed in WAPO today, I can get the lies from Fox if I want lies.
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s there anyone who is not in love with Athenae? Man. Woman. Gay. Straight. Entirely understandable why we all want to marry her.
res i
Good thing I can't have kids anymore. I couldn't decide amongst Athenae, Glenn Greenwald, Al Gore, The Big Dawg, WT, etc. Just too many great people around.
Thanks for arranging that last night res. It was great to see uncle smokes and Feral and all the other Atriots again.
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QL,
Feral just cracked me up when he said, "Shucks!" There really is a midwestern charm thing. You see it when THomas Frank is on teevee. Feral has it too.
And how fucking gorgeous (and sweet) is Bunter?
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Two wingers, Patrick McHenry of NC and a Rep from GA wagging crazy last night: " It's all about sick Mark Foley, it's not about Denny Hastert; It's ALL about Nancy Pelosi and Rahm Emanuel." Wha????
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Good morning, moonbats!
Four beers last night, quilt lady? Oh my! I had four bottles of Gallo!
/I keed, I keed. Not drinking at the moment - goal is a clear head for interview.
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A hymn to Athena from Apollonius Sophisotes:
"Athena, hear me, Aegis-bearing maid,
Thou daughter of the Mighty Father, aid
In every bold endeavor, standing by,
Companion on whose guidance I rely.
Thou knowest I've forfilled my every vow,
So please, I pray, be friendly to me now,
And hold thy hand above my works and give
Success on this and all the days I live."
So hail to Thee, Athena, Wisdom's child,
The source of thought and action reconciled,
The bright-eyed bringer of abundant wit,
Effective action's first prerequisite.
And hail to all the Goddesses of yore,
To all the ancient Gods that we adore!
Perhaps my song hath pleased thine ears; if so,
Thou might on me thy fruitful gifts bestow.
And it's a workday. Tonite I have a hot date with my guy, and we will have been together 11 years as of yesterday.
The love of a good man has enabled me to stand the 'slings and arrows..'
Ya'll have a good day..
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Well, res, we get Feral next weekend.
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thks, Echidne, all these clothes rules are kind of strange - like men wearing hats indoors, which used to be bad manners. Modesty just doesn't seem like a bad idea, but in the desert in the heat, making people suffer for it doesn't work for me, anyway.
omg, Amish being punished by a crazy man - what kind of god do these people worship?
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If this Foley shite has been going on for 11 years, this list of people who "knew" would probably fill a book or two.
Paper tigers burn brightly.
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Veil fetishism.
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Morning, Grand Rapids contingent! I was thinking about dith's obsession with ultimate dimhood, and I settled upon Eleanor Roosevelt as the Ultimate Democrat.
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Here is a Hymn to Athena from Apolloius Sophistes:
"Athena, hear me, Aegis-bearing maid,
Thou daughter of the Mighty Father, aid
In every bold endeavor, standing by,
Companion on whose guidance I rely.
Thou knowest I've forfilled my every vow,
So please, I pray, be friendly to me now,
And hold thy hand above my works and give
Success on this and all the days I live."
So hail to Thee, Athena, Wisdom's child,
The source of thought and action reconciled,
The bright-eyed bringer of abundant wit,
Effective action's first prerequisite.
And hail to all the Goddesses of yore,
To all the ancient Gods that we adore!
Perhaps my song hath pleased thine ears; if so,
Thou might on me thy fruitful gifts bestow.
And as it's a workday, I'm outta here.
Tonite me and My Guy have a hot date, it will be eleven years as of yesterday. The love of a good man has helped me endure 'the slings and arrows.'
ya'll go easy.
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Hung over...... black eye..... yeah.
That'd look really good Monday wouldn't it???
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Is the P. Bong in mothballs, then, Vicki?
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going to get some lunch, so catch you all laters 
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"Athena, hear me, Aegis-bearing maid,
Thou daughter of the Mighty Father, aid
In every bold endeavor, standing by,
Companion on whose guidance I rely.
Thou knowest I've forfilled my every vow,
So please, I pray, be friendly to me now,
And hold thy hand above my works and give
Success on this and all the days I live."
So hail to Thee, Athena, Wisdom's child,
The source of thought and action reconciled,
The bright-eyed bringer of abundant wit,
Effective action's first prerequisite.
And hail to all the Goddesses of yore,
To all the ancient Gods that we adore!
Perhaps my song hath pleased thine ears; if so,
Thou might on me thy fruitful gifts bestow.
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Hung over...... black eye..... yeah.
That'd look really good Monday wouldn't it???
No can do, know what I mean, Barndog bean!
Hey, Sister of Ye wants to come hang next weekend. That offer of a bed in your camper still on?
Nim and Jen have like no spare rooms.
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I can actually see how the face veil would make conversations tricky as you couldn't see the expressions. I suspect the face veil was intended to stop communications initially. I Googled for some images of women in Saudi Arabia and most of them don't seem to wear the face veil, so it looks like a fairly strong religious statement to make, and anyone wanting to make that statement would also be likely to believe in the total separation of the sexes. Which makes the initial story about Straw an odd one.
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Although none of Foser's article is in any way surprising, it struck me as one of th4e most depressing things I've read in a long time. The way he lays out Fox's poisonous agenda then shows how they've managed to make CNN a Republican lapdog in order to "complete" -- it's just frightening.
The only solace in this is that fewer and fewer people are watching each day, each month. The real way news is distributed and filtered these days is through e-mail forwarding and Youtube. I think the true alternative media may be reaching a critical mass -- certainly for the demographic under, say 70. Of course there are more and more 70-plus people every day, and that's who's watching CNN, Fox, etc, -- and they do vote.
I'll dutifully forward Foser's article to a half dozen people, who will forward it to another 30, etc. Some will subscribe to Media Matters, and the drumbeat for truth -- which is flying under the radar for the most part (although the blogosphere's role in the Foley story has been front-page news this week.
The best news is that after years of flying complete under the radar, primarily with Tom delay's hand up his ass, Denny Hastert was exposed to the clear light of day. And as we've all seen, it's an ugly, ugly picture. I haven't heard anybody say it, but I think a lot of people have to be thinking: "How can they call this guy a leader?" Everything about his physical presence and demeanor is so...second rate. When the history of the era is written, the Hastert era in the house will surely be one of the low points for a body whose history is pretty checkered.
For years my pet project had been to start a blog on Hastert, running him into the ground they way other people have taken on single personalities. But blogging ain't easy (though it's necessary.) I couldn't stand the fact that the Speaker of the House of Representatives -- the number three person in succession to the president -- was such a cipher. Truth is, Hastert was so low profile, I couldn’t find much damning about him, other than his obvious sockpuppetry for Delay. But he very quietly and subtly oversaw the transmogrification of the House -- the people's House -- into a third-world politburo. Perhaps it would have turned out that way no matter that ran the place -- but he was nominally in charge.
It will takes years to unravel all the damage that's been done under Denny Hastert's "stewardship" of the House. It's pretty clear that a lot has been happening behind closed doors. It's also clear what will happen when some light is shone -- you have a corrupt rat like Gary Bauer allowing that the real wrong where is that soon-to-be-Speaker Pelosi has refused a polygraph, and Al Hunt leaving that assertion unchallenged. I think the next 2 years will (hopefully) involve a lot more light shining on the dark corners where Delaybramoff, et all, have carried out their criminal agenda on our behalf.
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Is the P. Bong in mothballs, then, Vicki?
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I gave it up for a bit, for obvious reasons, plantsman. You like, I can ship it to you.
It's really more of a piece of artglass.
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How Dith is able to type with one hand so quickly is a better question to answer for him.
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Y'all are taking about Foser's brilliant article I read last night, I assume.
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Cuz, like, d'uh, if I'd just read the damn thread.
Sorry, I just woke up.
We've hit the freezing point - it's 30 degrees here.
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I'd rather see dith around here than most of the trolls. He's harmless.
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I think so, jes. I'm just kinda bummed today - my buddy from Kentucky who was coming up fishing tommorrow... can't keep his blood pressure under control.
He got some new meds and all that, but just had a stint put in a couple months back, and a mild heart attack earlier this year.
The old bastid has me kinda concerned.
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Seems Kinky wasn't too effective at the debate last night. And Granny couldn't name the president of Mexico. All in all, the results look good for Bell, the Dem. Perry has a record running against him, we need a strong candidate to get him out.
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There are more 70+ online everday too, and many of us here are no spring chickens; contributing no doubt to the richness of the broth hereabouts!
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I settled upon Eleanor Roosevelt as the Ultimate Democrat.
I can live with that.
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I wish you wonderful luck and results in the interview, Vicki. No need bong, no have stuff to burn.
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Sorry to hear about your pal, Barndog. One of you many lovable traits is your concern for people.
I'd go fishing with you if I didn't have to get my mind in gear for Monday.
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Any poll data to see which version of the Foley scandal is believed and the impact on the November election?
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Seems Kinky wasn't too effective at the debate last night. And Granny couldn't name the president of Mexico. All in all, the results look good for Bell, the Dem. Perry has a record running against him, we need a strong candidate to get him out.
Ruth, call me WAY out of my league and none of my beeswax, but I watched that debate, and I agree with your consensus. Good Hair is too pretty to be a Texan, though.
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'The old bastid has me kinda concerned.
Barndog, mandolinist'
hope his ticker holds on for awhile, lots of my family have heart problems. And how are you holding up?
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Gimlet,
Last poll I saw said that 61% of people think Republican leadership knew about and is covering this thing up. It was as (R)Assmussen.
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Barndog, ask your friend if his Dr. has tried
"Toprol XL" to control his blood pressure. I take it and two other BP Meds, and a neurologist put me on it after my stroke. Few side effects and really brings the numbers down.
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Wm Buckley on pages; 'If we were bent on prohibiting the corruption of minors, half the magazine stands in the U.S. would be closed down by midnight."
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Any poll data to see which version of the Foley scandal is believed and the impact on the November election?
All kinds of it, Gimlet, and it isn't looking good for the GOP. Daily Kos has excellent rundowns almost every day. And you might want to check out www.pollster.com
Menendez is up by 2 in NJ at the moment.
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Out of your league doesn't work, we're all watching TX and we're all watching CT. But when you really, really want something it's easy to delude yourself. I STILL think Bell looks good. Cross your fingers, Vicki and all.
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Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, wrote a letter supporting Hastert, saying it was inappropriate to ask for the speaker's resignation when similar scandals in the 1980s prompted a "dramatically different standard."
Barton was referring to Democratic Reps. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts and Dan Crane of Illinois, both of whom were censured after having sexual relationships with 17-year-old pages. Crane lost his re-election bid, while Studds survived the scandal.
"No Democrat demanded prescience from Speaker Tip O'Neill, and no Democrat shouted for his resignation. Neither did any Republican," Barton wrote. "The focus was on the members who created the problem, as it should have been and as it should be now."
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I will cross them, Ruth.
We want Granholm to defeat DeVos here in Michigan, too. Rasmussen had her up by 5 two days ago, after the first debate in which he completely sucked.
And, as everyone knows, Rasmussen leans R, although I have to say that when I hear him on talk shows, etc., he seems like he tries to be fair.
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Democratic Reps. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts and Dan Crane of Illinois,
Dan Crane was a Republican as you well know, I suspect.
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why should reporters working for a global news corporation be any different when it comes to money and employment influences, than say, the american public and their willingness to allow the election of a brain damaged alcoholic, armed service deserter who's so grossly unqualified he's technically eligilble for disability allowances for now, to become not only the President of The United States, but allow their representatives in congress to imbue him with "special" powers that enable him to attack any country he so chooses and basically treat his station as a birthright that he shall do with what he pleases? (shorter version: finding the value in money is someplace to run and hide when reality dissolves.
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Was that a sulfur egg bomb that just walked in?
Excuse me while I leave the room.
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VIcki, I like art glass well enough, though salt-glazed classic Jugtown ware is more my style.
It's true value to me would be knowing it was from you.
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Echidne, I believe most women do cover their faces in public in Saudi Arabia. They probably also don't like their photos taken, so that's why you wouldn't find too many images.
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Yes, and Clinton got a blow job.
Do yourself (and us) a favor: go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw. Better yet: let your boyfriend Mark Foley and his willing accomplice Dennis Hastert do it.
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http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/...hives/
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Foley has been behaving like this since 1995. Hope that answers that little squirrel rep from GA's questions.....
Warning: more of Foleys lurid emails at above link.
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It's true value to me would be knowing it was from you.
You, like JeffCO, and Barndog, and Gomez and a few others, are so sweet. It's the kindness and thoughtfulness that touches me.
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how true
even fox isn't trying to blame Democrats but CNN repeats Newts lies with no response
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Going out. Enjoy the Saturday.
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Joe Barton is a beady-eyed lying pipsqueak who double-crossed supporters of legislation for research into autism. Social conditions are significantly different for gay people and lesbians now that in the 1980's. I have a current study of sexual predation of minors from the Journal Pediatrics to share if anybody wants it.
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res,
Can I ask a question? Curios about Snow. He's so funny on the blog...what's he like?
And Athenae is a gem in every way, shape and form.
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When a GOP Congressman preys on the underage, and the GOP leadership covers it up, clearly, the most important question to be asking is: how guilty are the Democrats?
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Actually, this whole affair is starting to restore a little faith in me that there are some things the GOP cannot, in fact, spin away.
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Hey Nim, are you up? Can I call you?
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Actually Hastert waited to release the emails from Foley so he could accuse Dems of acting politically.
Dallas Morning News has printed an op ed piece on Fox News leaning to the right. love it.
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After I make some coffee, of course.
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Ditto on what plantsman said, Toprol is a more advanced treatment and less side effects than cumadin(sp?)
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what has happened is a local story has been seized upon by both sides who wish you furter a 'clash of civlizations', its an excuse for the right wing press and blogs to bash Muslims while on the other side there are these middle age Muslim men lining up to defend the right for their women to wear the niqab and inbetween are the Musilm women who are largely being ignored.
On this morning BBC Four's Today programme they interviewed a young Muslim lady who chose to wore the veil and she was very articulate and set out her position verywell, i was half dozing so I can't remeber what she said.
you can listen to their interview with Jack Straw here and also you can listen to Today's programme for the next 7 days, well worth doing.
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Ditto on the coffee. Down stairs to the grinder I go. B R B.
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Vicki,
Snow did not make it last night. I assume his flight was delayed. I had an email from him late, though, and he is here. I think we will see him tonight.
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It's October, and I'm loving the surprise.
Not what Karl had in mind, but still--
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Morning all.
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Vicki-
I'm up, but Jen is still in bed. Can you hold off just a little while? She was exhausted yesterday, I want her to catch up on her sleep..
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heh you can read the letters sent into the Guardian about the veil issue here and here
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Nim, Yes, of course I can. I'll wait until this afternoon or so.
Why so tired? Work stress getting to her?
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Does Jack Straw not feel uneasy with a woman sitting in front of him with exposed cleavage?
Hasan Beg
Kirkcaldy
I'm writing to express my concern about the wearing of the kilt by certain extremist Scots. In the first place, it clearly marks them out as separate from our society. Second, I feel threatened by the thought of what might be underneath.
Richard Jones
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When will Mr Straw lift the veil of mendacity and lies over Iraq?
Alessandra Asteriti
Edinburgh
Is this the same Mr Straw who as foreign secretary oversaw the invasion of a secular Middle Eastern state transforming it into a cauldron of Islamist extremism?
Adam Swain
Nottingham
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
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Res, too bad about Snow! He'll be there - he was so looking forward to it!
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Ok, it's a work day here. Wish me and my guy a happy 11th anniversary.
The love of a good man has helped me stand 'the slings and arrows..'
Ya'll keep up the good work.
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Vicki-
Not sure, but probably. We did get your message yesterday though, but it was kind of late. So no, we're not giving you the cold shoulder, just were not watching the voicemail yesterday ^_^
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Nim, it's too close to the election for spin unless something bad happens.
'The watchword is accountability. It goes without saying that Foley should get all the professional help he needs for problems that he says stem from alcoholism and childhood sexual abuse. But he also must be held responsible for his own abuse: that of his office and the young pages.'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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Abuse of office. Not getting much play is it?
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Sounds like the ol' blow off to me, Vicki. Heard it before.
I say go up and beat the door down. If you'd like, I'll drop off the rusty chainsaw to make that ease of entry thing a snap!!
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Did anyone find Snow who was lost in NY last night?
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Not sure, but probably.
Sometimes, she's highly intelligent in an Olmstead way, which means tha some of us are given to being high strung. Sometimes.
Me, I'm the stupid, laid back one.
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That's it Vicki! Wear a veil to your interview, they'll never notice your eye and cigarette burn!
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Straw words 'sparked veil attack'
A leading Muslim has blamed Jack Straw's comments for an attack in which a woman's veil was torn from her face.
The woman was attacked in Liverpool by a man shouting racist abuse, the day after the former foreign secretary criticised veils that cover the face.
Mohammed Akbar Ali, ex-chair of the Liverpool Islamic Institute, said Mr Straw should have known better.
Merseyside Police, who say the attack was a hate crime, met Muslim leaders on Saturday to hear their concerns.
Mr Akbar Ali, who was involved in the campaign to free Liverpool hostage Ken Bigley in Iraq, said the attack was no coincidence.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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Mr Bill, best wishes to you and your 5( year old. heh
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Did anyone find Snow who was lost in NY last night?
He was lost in a blizzard. One flake among many, you know?
/Sorry, I have a terrible habit with the Snow jokes. It all goes back to krsaz, who one time said to Snow when Snow said, "Is it hot in here or is it me?"
krsaz says, "Oh oh, you're melting."
STILL cracks me up. I mean gut laughing cracks me up.
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Barndog, we can't go and storm their house! They have more animals than a pet store. Our legs will get chewed off.
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Uh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
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Fear my army of lethargic goofus animals ^_^
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I have 2 dogs that weigh over 200# between them. They're sure to provide some influence.
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QL,
I had an email from him about midnight. Have not talked to him yet, though. He's here.
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i think it is time that the word reporting gets defined for what the teevee does: one-sided opinion
if this is done long enough and hard-hitting enough, using REAL media like the WAPO, NYT and Chicago Tribune as examples where reporting actually attempts to uncover FACTS, maybe, just maybe, the sheep will begin to realize that teevee news is fake
it would be in those big papers interest as they have lost readership over the decades to teevee that is bland and meaningless - it is time for a war between media
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LOL: Billmon.
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I just went over to my local paper's wen site to see what gargae they are spewing today --The Santa Rosa Press Democrat --where failed journalists and the children of old families who couldn't get work else where spend their time lying to the public
We've started calling it the Healdsburg Unimpressed Republican
they are taking the tact that all politicians are bad so we might as well keep Republicans in power
they are responsible for the creepy DS who bungled the Karr case --they trashed his opponent repeatedly and unfairly and now can't understand why there is such a loser in office
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LOL: Billmon.
res ipsa loquitur

ql in ny appalled |
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Billmon is having a very active retirement.
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Billmon is having a very active retirement.
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Soros - Behind every woodpile
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I remain i love with Billmon!!!!!
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Fear my army of lethargic goofus animals ^_^

And then there's Buddy, the arthritic. Barndog, you might bond with Buddy! 
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Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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res,
Is Atrios joinin us tonigh?
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I'm writing to express my concern about the wearing of the kilt by certain extremist Scots. In the first place, it clearly marks them out as separate from our society. Second, I feel threatened by the thought of what might be underneath.

Morning, folks! Good times in NYC last night, eh?
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LOL: Billmon.
res ipsa loquitur

So that's where that came from! I saw it floating around the Internets last night!
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Molly, Atrios is going to Seattle.
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Soros - Behind every woodpile
Loyal Republican
Republicans - Behind every page.
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You feel better, but is your carbon offset just hot air?
Green consumers and businesses who want to neutralise their carbon emissions face being ripped off by unscrupulous operators who exploit the growing market in carbon offset schemes, a Guardian investigation has revealed.
The surge in interest in such schemes, which invest millions of pounds in forestry and clean energy projects in the developing world, has created a lucrative market in carbon, which is unregulated and subject to little scrutiny. Campaigners and analysts say independent standards are urgently needed to protect consumers and to ensure the promised carbon savings are delivered. Francis Sullivan, a carbon offset expert who led attempts by banking group HSBC to neutralise its emissions, said: "There will be individuals and companies out there who think they're doing the right thing but they're not. I am sure that people are buying offsets in this unregulated market that are not credible. I am sure there are people buying nothing more than hot air."
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I'm writing to express my concern about the wearing of the kilt
makes the Crocodile Dundee gender check easier
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Molly, Atrios is going to Seattle.
Oh, boo. We'll be there.
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Molly Ivors,
I don't know. I never heard from him.
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Haniya: We will not recognise Israel
The Palestinian prime minister has vowed that Hamas will not be edged out of power or recognise Israel.
Ismail Haniya, the prime minister and Hamas leader, made the comments at a rally of tens of thousands of banner-waving supporters on Friday.
He told the crowd in a packed football stadium: "We will not recognise Israel, we will not recognise Israel, we will not recognise Israel."
He ruled out a proposal by members of his own Hamas movement to form a new government of technocrats as a way of winning international support and ending a seven-month aid freeze.
He said: "There are new scenarios, such as an emergency government, a technocrat government, or early elections.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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Oh, boo. We'll be there.
Molly Ivors
I would have gone if I could have...the cards weren't lining up for me this Summer, though.
Things are fine, now.
How's Rosie? A little better?
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Abuse of office. Not getting much play is it?
right, the idiots (so called reporters) are all panty-sniffing for a sexual inpropriety story - which there may be, but the point is fairly clear that he abused his office and the page program
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I don't know what, if anything, Aravosis has, but if it's something I hope he just goes fucking nuclear with it.
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Uh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
res ipsa loquitur
He should call hastert's office today. I'm sure they're in there.
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really excellent - Robert Fisk: "The Conquest of the Middle East"
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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Rosie got through a whole night without vomiting, which we take to be a good sign. But grandma doesn't want to see us, so we're driving straight back.
What are folks doing before dinner?
Molly Ivors |
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The die is cast [Rich Lowry]
This week was the week for Republicans to get on a stronger footing on the Foley scandal
You're a sick, twisted little man, Lowry. First raping; now footing and fisting. Give your evil mind a rest, will ya?
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Uh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
A rather Senior member of congress? Dare we speculate? I don't want to do the wrong thing here...
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Molly Ivors,
I think QL is taking some folks, including Smokes, on a mini-tour before. Feral is going to the Met today. I am going to call SNow in a bit and see what he is up to.
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He should call hastert's office today. I'm sure they're in there.
Virginia
Nah, let's not bury it in the middle of a three day weekend. Much rather let the rumor spread throughout the internet and think about the target sweating bullets about when it is going to come out.
Heehee.
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Uh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
res ipsa loquitur
He should call hastert's office today. I'm sure they're in there.
Virginia
They haven't left for a week, I'm sure. I'll bet they smell bad, haven't showered, have been living off of delivered food and the stash of bourbon under the desk, with only quick snatches of Ambien-induced sleep on the receprion room couch.
Molly Ivors |
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CSpan showed a political ad accusing menendez of being the next [criminal's name] in NJ then kean comes on smirking, I approved this ad. Works for who?
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Soros - Behind every woodpile
wingnuts ignore the fact that their RUpert Murdoch has WAYYY more power than Soros - and Murdoch lives in australia - i am not sure he is an american citizen, but he owns a HUGE broadcasting empire in america...george soros is an american citizen and he DOESN'T own as huge a media empire as Murdoch
but winguts are too stupid to care to know - they like to blamestorm
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res,
we're thinking of leaving here noonish, so we'll hit the city at 4 or so. Drinks before?
Molly Ivors |
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Man, there was a fabulous diary - very long - posted at kos this week on Dick DeVos' wife, Betsy. A must read (although I knew most of it because I've followed her political career here).
She's very Christian, very controversial, and very divisive. So, interestingly enough, the DeVos campaign has completely gagged her. I was wondering about that. Why we haven't heard a peep from a woman who told the masses that workers in the State of Michigan make "too much." Or the woman who, at the behest of Karl Rove, launched the anti-gay marriage campaign in 2004.
I'll see if I can't find it for Barndog and some of the other Michigan folks.
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They haven't left for a week, I'm sure.
Molly
To the mattresses!
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the BBC are airing a new version of Robin Hood tonight.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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Uh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
A rather Senior member of congress? Dare we speculate?
You know what's missing here: the Senate.
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Molly Ivors,
Yeah, I can meet ya'll. Where are you thinking? Or do you want to meet chez res? I can corral people up here if it's easier.
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I was thinking yesterday that if I were a page who had contact with a creepy congressperson, the last person I'd tell would be Denny Haster and his kiddie porn hotline.
Molly Ivors |
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'right, the idiots (so called reporters) are all panty-sniffing for a sexual inpropriety story - which there may be, but the point is fairly clear that he abused his office and the page program
mogwai'
Issues, tissues.
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Soros - Behind every woodpile
Soros financed last night. He's financing tonight's dinner and tomorrow's picnic, too. He gave me a huge honorarium for organizing this thing, too.
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I love Grteg Palast. But to be honest, I thought he would have hair.
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Here it is:
(MI-Gov) Doctrine of Dick DeVos: Wife Betsy DeVos Deliberately Gagged
If you're interested in the Michigan Gubernatorial Race, this is a good article for you. If not, 
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Molly, I think Greg Palast is hot without the hair.
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Re Lowry,
During law school I was in a cab with a classmate and saw Lowry on the street. I said, "Hey, there's Rich Lowry, another one of the baby-faced facists of the Nat'l Review." My friend opened the window and yelled, "Hey, Rich Lowry!" LOwry looks up and smiles. He's so pleased someone has recognized him that his tiny little Republican penis is in the air. Then my friend yells, "You fucking putz!"
Okay, so it was juvenile. But we laughed all afternoon.
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Foley incident stirs up a stereotype about gay men
Some conservatives have reacted to former Rep. Mark Foley's sexual messages to teenage boys and announcement he is gay by suggesting homosexuals are more likely to molest children, a link that psychiatric groups say has no basis in fact.
Yet the stereotype seems to be sticking, repeated in the conservative and mainstream media. A columnist for the Wall Street Journal suggested that homosexuality exists on a continuum stretching from "just another gay guy" to "a compulsive, predatory sex offender."
Jay Leno recently quipped that GOP now stands for "Gay Old Pedophile," and Ben Stein wrote in the American Spectator that "I hope it won't come as a surprise to anyone that a big part of male homosexual behavior is interest in young boys. (Take a look at anyone renting 'Endless Summer' next time you are at the video store.)"
But researchers say that the data cited to back up such stereotypes is flimsy, exaggerated and sometimes made up.
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Palast will always be a hero to me for the work he did in 2000 on the stolen election. People were calling him batshit nuts, all that, yet he stood by his work, and later, he was proved right.
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Uh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
res ipsa loquitur
Ray Lahood (R-OH, soon to be D-OH) made it pretty clear last Monday on CNN that there were others. I believe C&L has the video.
Josh Marshall has been dropping strong hints that the former House Clerk, Jeff Trandahl, is gay and left that job in relation to Foley. (He's not talking, and has lawyered up.) And now Scott Palmer (Hastert's gay staffer?) is on the hot seat.
Pass the popcorn.
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Veiled threats?
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that's the idea ... sell some crap about putting people back to work or expound on the way the area has lost jobs and population (because of the Republican mess we're subjected to to begin with) then if you can cheat your way into office make everyone sell amway while you destroy the unions and promote sub-level pay standards. (oh and invite all the cronies you feel indebted to to screw your states citizens in any way they deem fitting) (is there any public service or utility they havent deregulated completely yet? Getting industry and employment on the proper footing to De Vos means allowing phoney companies to pretend to start in Michigan then go bankrupt while giving the CEO and director board bonus's.
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Okay, so it was juvenile. But we laughed all afternoon.

Res, that's a cool story. I like the addition of the tiny penis sproinging in the air.
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I was thinking yesterday that if I were a page who had contact with a creepy congressperson, the last person I'd tell would be Denny Haster and his kiddie porn hotline.
Molly Ivors
They will be waterboarded and shipped to Gitmo, or vice versa.
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It's not working, CNN;
'Are you satisfied with the way Republicans are handling the Foley-congressional page scandal?
Yes 21% 26081 votes
No 79% 95474 votes
Total: 121555 votes '
their own poll.
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And now Scott Palmer (Hastert's gay staffer?) is on the hot seat.
Who is the senior level congressman, then? Would it be irresponsible to speculate?
I have my ideas.
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"Hey, Rich Lowry!" LOwry looks up and smiles. He's so pleased someone has recognized him that his tiny little Republican penis is in the air. Then my friend yells, "You fucking putz!"
I think he needs to hear that sort of thing more often.
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or boni (plural?
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It's a stupid argument, anyway: a Republican congressman whores after teenage pages, and it's Democrats fault? Yea, I know, par for the course, but that's really, really stretching it.
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Jay Leno recently quipped that GOP now stands for "Gay Old Pedophile,"
Jay Leno is a fucking moron.
The only thing funny about the gay angle in this thing is that the party that ran on fear of gay sex is now The Party of Gay Sex.™ Fuck 'em all.
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I'll be back in a few ~ keep my seat warm.
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Vicki,
When we saw him I felt like Eric Stratton in "Animal House:" "What's required here is a really stupid and futile gesture on somebody's part..."
Sometimes stupid and futile are very funny.
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I'll bet it's David Dreier. But doesn't everyone already know he's gay? The wingnuts might not, and their couls be a power/age thing, as there is in Foley's case.
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Molly Ivors,
Do you have my digits?
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My Secret IMs With 'The Cowboy'
In the wake of the Foley sex scandal, Mark Morford reveals his chat with a "special" GOP friend
Cowby43 (8:34:20 PM): I like Libruls
WrtrGuy: (...)
Cwboy43 (8:34:50 PM): Is this thing on? Hello? I like Libruls. Hee hee hee OMG I like libruls and the weird thingz U do ha ha ha just like Mark Foley. wOOt!
WrtrGuy (8:35:10 PM): What? Who is this? How did you get this handle?
Cwboy43 (8:35:42 PM): I do. I like em. Libruls. can't help myselff. Dunt tell anyone. Things R gong badly here. No one to talk to. No one 2 ease my anxiety, you know?
Continues...
Moe Szyslak |
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The big debate
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'Getting industry and employment on the proper footing to De Vos means allowing phoney companies to pretend to start in Michigan then go bankrupt while giving the CEO and director board bonus's.
Tom Terrific '
Our incumbent is working to remove Federal supervision of ARkansas' pig farms. Which drain into TX. His own district. ????'s money is paying for this.
Moe, it's amazing how misinformed most people are about sexual predators, I think they're all listening to Focus on Family. Which would have you locking up anyone under 30.
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It's not David Dreier
he's member of the self loathing wing of the Republican lincoln logs
but I doubt if he is a pederast
i'm hoping it's some bible belter
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Who is the senior level congressman, then? Would it be irresponsible to speculate?
I have my ideas.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I haven't put much thought in it. I doubt it's Dreier - he's out, with a partner.
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res,
email me your ##s and I'll prgram them into my phone.
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res, there's nothing funny about it. The reason Mark Foley was in the closet? 'Cause in the GOP, you must be. That this contributed to his fantasies running out of control is not a question to me.
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plantsman,
You just said it exactly right.
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Ben Stein --this is the guy who thinks Nixon was a great leader
he likes and respects Patty O'Bigot Buchanan
the media hauls him out when they want to float the most outrageous statements
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Okay, to the showers.
The only thing I've committed to do today is clean my crib, but first, I must clean myself.
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Vexed question of the veil divides town gripped by racial suspicion
Jack Straw has found allies in some of the most unlikely parts of Lancashire by asking if his female constituents will remove niqab, not least the residents of Fishwick Parade, on Preston's Callon estate.
"Of course he's right," said Steve, one of the many 16-year-old white youths who while away their hours here racing bikes up to the pub and back. "It does make you wonder what they've all got to hide."
The niqab is a common sight here, a few hundred yards from the Fishwick district, home to a large proportion of Preston's Indian and Pakistani Muslim community, which makes up 8.6 per cent of the population
Steve's opinion on the issue moved seamlessly into a diatribe on how those of ethnic extraction ought to "behave" in "our country". He is perhaps not the kind of backer Mr Straw will welcome. But his words reveal the kind of racial suspicions which, statistically, make Preston one of the most racially divided places in Britain and which may have prompted Mr Straw to tackle such an issue now.
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NYMary,
Done.
plantsman,
I am saying, "They are reaping what they sowed" not that it's right.
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I want to kill Comcast. It keeps closing down on me. Haven't had any fresh e-mail in over 12 hours - and that pisses me off, too - because it means that my usual updates and things aren't coming thru. And so I wonder if what I'm sending is getting out.
Maybe it's my turn to be watched by the NSA.
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Molly Ivors,
Where are you guys gonna park? Down there? Just lemme know where you're gonna be and I'll come meet you, provided you're virus- and vomit-free. 
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res, gotcha!
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Police to toughen approach to Islamic extremists
Scotland Yard are to clamp down on Islamist extremists demonstrating in London following a series of complaints that radicals are being allowed to break the law, and are misrepresenting the views of the Muslim community.
The police are to use tactics deployed against crime bosses and suspected terrorists to target individuals who have called for the execution of critics of Islam and have been accused of stirring up racial hatred.
A team of specialist lawyers is also to be created to help the police prosecute radicals, under a proposal by the country's most senior Muslim police chief.
The new zero-tolerance approach follows a series of demonstrations in which Islamic extremists were accused of inciting racial hatred. Last month a well-known Islamist radical reportedly said during a protest outside Westminster Cathedral that Pope Benedict XVI should face "capital punishment" for insulting Islam.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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As Polly Klaas dad stopped Keith to remind him last night: they very nearly got away with this. Were within hours of getting away with it.
Of course there are others. They're addicted to power, to what power brings. It brings money, of course, but sex too.
Lots of others.
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I want to kill Comcast. Big Ditto. I also hate how they never advertise the actual price for a service, only the 3-month come-on price.
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As Polly Klaas dad stopped Keith to remind him last night: they very nearly got away with this. Were within hours of getting away with it.
How so? (I was away, so I have missed some key components of this story.)
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If Foley hadn't resigned before the recess began, this would have been muffled.
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Vicki..... you need a hand - or a pair of hands in your effort?
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Hastert is fat.
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They've turned the corner! (Again!)
Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.
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Nice tidbit from Josh's:
Earthquake. The Cook Political Report changes its ratings in 14 House races--downgrading GOP chances in every one. Election Central has the rundown.
-- TPM Reader DK
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Vicki, did you know you can get your email from the comcast.net site? Or is that what you are trying to do?
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Comment in Dallas Morning News that about 60% of sexual offenders report that they were abused as children. When asked to submit to polygraph half then admit it isn't true. Just sayin.
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Buenas dias, amigos...
Balloon fiesta begins today; howwever the skes are overcast, and scattered showers are forecast for the whole weekend...
oh, and Bill Moyers has something say about all this fucking GOPuke corruption. Brief but bracing: you read!
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Earthquake. The Cook Political Report changes its ratings in 14 House races--downgrading GOP chances in every one. Election Central has the rundown.
That seems more like a tectonic plate shift to me...
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Journalists killed in Afghanistan
Two German journalists have been shot dead by unidentified attackers in northern Afghanistan in an overnight attack, Afghan police say.
The two, a man and a woman, were killed while travelling from Baghlan province to the central province of Bamiyan, officials told Reuters news agency.
They were apparently in the country working on a documentary.
Varying reports say they were either killed in their tent or in a vehicle in the early hours of Saturday.
"Unidentified insurgents sprayed their vehicle with bullets," Baghlan's security chief, Gen Azim Hashimi, was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying.
There was no word about the fate of their driver.
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I suppose it has been noted now that, whatever the GOP is trying, it doesn't seem to be working.
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NTodd,
No pics (of me) on internets, please.
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SCott Palmer chief of staff to Hastert admits to meeting with Foley a year ago on this issue
wapo
and Palmer rooms with Hastert during session --what no pillow talk
Hastert knew and did nothing to keep the $750k and the safe seat
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Linkee no workee, Woody.
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Pediatrics reports that 82% of men who abused male minors were involved in a heterosexual relationship with the child's mother, grandmother, or another close female relative.
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Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.
res ipsa loquitur
Except Denny didn't accept responsibility. He said "we" accept responsibility.
I think he meant the mouse in his pocket.
These things are noticed, and not just by pundits who promptly ignore it.
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Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.
Mehlman's just relieved that he doesn't have to come out from behind his grandma's furs in the armoire.
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Comment in Dallas Morning News that about 60% of sexual offenders report that they were abused as children. When asked to submit to polygraph half then admit it isn't true. Just sayin.
Ruth, revolted
Yeah, even Peter King (R, soon to be D, NY) threw cold water on the "I'm an alcoholic" bullshit, and everyone's calling Foley out on the Clergy Abuse crap.
Republicans lie. Water is wet. Sky is blue.
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Fourteen dead in northern Iraq blast
At least fourteen people have died after a suicide car bomber hit an Iraqi army checkpoint in the northern Iraqi town of Tal Afar, police said.
Colonel Abdel-Karim al-Jubouri, Mosul's police chief, said the attack took place at a checkpoint at around 8.45am local time (0545 GMT) in Tal Afar, about 420 kilometres northwest of Baghdad.
The attacker ploughed a truck laden with explosives into the wall of a house used as a lookout by soldiers in the Al-Salam district of the town, the AFP news agency reported.
Four soldiers and 10 civilians were killed in the attack, while at least 13 more people were wounded, police said.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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Hastert is fat.
NTodd4
Only in comparison to a human.
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NTodd,
No pics (of me) on internets, please.
res ipsa loquitur
DELETE RES'S FUCKING ACCOUNT, NTODD!
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Except Denny didn't accept responsibility. He said "we" accept responsibility.
I think he meant the mouse in his pocket.
Nah, it was probably the Victorian royal "we".
I think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.
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WGG - small typo in your link; fixed, I hope.
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res
as it happens, only Uncle Smokes wants to walk around Manhattan today, so let me know where you and molly are hooking up, and we'll join youse.
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Lumpy: "Do I hafta wear this page outfit? I'm gettin' too old for this shit."
Chimpy: "Shoot! It makes yuh look lak a kid agin'. C'mon ovah heah an' give me an oral message."
Lumpy: "How 'bout a written message? Your pencil dick is the perfect tool."
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Maybe it's my turn to be watched by the NSA.
Vicki
According to the schedule, you're next Tuesday.
Wear something frilly.
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No pics (of me) on internets, please.
That will cost you!
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Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.
"accepted responsibility" = we can ignore this now
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Not to be a nattering naybob of negativism, but the polls over at Josh's paint gloomy pictures in VA and CT: Ned's down by ten or even twenty points according to Zogby and Rasmussen (I am astounded by this) and Webb's down by eleven.
I recognize it's very tough to knock off an incumbent senator, but Ned down by twenty? Is this believable? And I thought Webb was within four or five...
Aauugghh!
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British forces in Afghanistan will be provided with whatever resources they need, the prime minister has said.
Addressing military personnel on the fifth anniversary of operations in the country, Tony Blair pledged "every support and every protection".
He said this included providing more armoured vehicles and more helicopters.
Mr Blair praised the courage displayed during a "very tough" operation and acknowledged it was still "lawless" in the south where most troops were based.
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How so? (I was away, so I have missed some key components of this story.)
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If Foley hadn't resigned before the recess began, this would have been muffled.
plantsman, lowercase
Basically, plantsman answered your question. But if this had been held just a little longer, Foley would have been reelected, the Republicans would be scattered to the four winds for their campaigns, and nothing, nothing would have been done.
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HICA!
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I think he needs to hear that sort of thing more often.
Molly Ivors - 8:53 am
they all do, but if you tell it to the fucking vice-prez, they'll arrest you...never mind that you're even polite and un-profane...
what they need to hear is galesof laughter whenever they appear in public; what the need to hear is hots of derision, and piles of obloquy...everybody and anybody who encounters the motherfuckers needs to diss the fuckers into oblivion...
what kind of fucking country is it when you cant tell the fascist fuckers to go fuck themselves???
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They've turned the corner! (Again!)
Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.
res ipsa loquitur
OK, let's see if I've got this.
Republicans have turned a corner.
Denny is staying the course.
Now, who's adapting to win?
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I think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.
And the occasional snack cake, for dipping.
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Nah, it was probably the Victorian royal "we".
I think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.
SteveNS
"L'etat, c'est Denny?" I think he meant "we" as in "GOP Leadership." Which means he won't take responsibility himself.
That kind of weasely "stepping up without really stepping up" is noticed, especially in the "heartland." It just reinforces the conviction that the party in charge, doesn't need to be in charge anymore.
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res must be really hot.
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oh, and Bill Moyers has something say about all this fucking GOPuke corruption. Brief but bracing: you read!
i love Bill Moyers, but he doesn't mention that the american people have become soo complacent and materialistic that i believe there is no way but down politically...as someone famous once said (and i paraphrase) "the death of democracy comes with the complacency of it's people"
oh and i would have come to NY to meet with some of you fine folks, but i have been travelling soo much that i need this weekend at home
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Mehlman's just relieved that he doesn't have to come out from behind his grandma's furs in the armoire.
Good God! 
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That kind of weasely "stepping up without really stepping up" is noticed, especially in the "heartland." It just reinforces the conviction that the party in charge, doesn't need to be in charge anymore.
Rmj
Jeez, do I ever hope you're right.
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Oh, yeah: sorry 'bout de bad linkee; thanks virginny!!!
oh, and Bill Moyers has something say about all this fucking GOPuke corruption. Brief but bracing: you read!
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Josh:
Did I say earthquake?
Here's another sign of the tectonic shift.
The NRCC dropped $7.8 million yesterday into 30 House districts.
But here's the thing. It's not just the size of the expenditure. Of the 30 districts in question, 27 are currently held by the GOP.
They're playing defense. But as the GOP playbook says, the best defense is a strong offense, so 98% of the $7.8 million is going to attacking the Democratic opponents.
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Alex Wittless
STudds but not mention of PHil CRane
stupid bitch
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And the occasional snack cake, for dipping.
Oh, YUCK!
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Ned down by twenty? Is this believable?
Yes, it's quite simple, really. Lieberman is pulling the GOP vote. Schlessinger was at like 4% last time I looked.
Lieberman is a Republican.
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I think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.
And the occasional snack cake, for dipping.
Poor L'il Debbie!!!
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res must be really hot.
No. Just really paranoid.
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Troll sentenced to jail in England!
"She said: "He was isolated and living in a fantasy world, spending hours on his computer in his room where his persona could be as he made it, good or bad.""
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/
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And the occasional snack cake, for dipping.
Molly Ivors
HE calls them "snack" cakes. To you and I, they're just cakes.
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Alex Wittless
STudds but not mention of PHil CRane
stupid bitch
Not Phil Crane, but his brother Dan. Who was also a Republican, but you wouldn't know that from the CNN story.
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Gilliard thinks what we know so far about Foley is the tip of the iceberg, and worse is coming.
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And the occasional snack cake, for dipping.
Molly Ivors

You are very, very bad.
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Ned's down by ten or even twenty points according to Zogby and Rasmussen (I am astounded by this)
ned won the Dem primary, only registered dems could vote...in the real election, republicans all got the fax to vote for joe - this is why you see those numbers
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He is partial to Corona beer and a steaming plate of tête de veau. But the sophisticated tastes of the famously indulgent French president Jacques Chirac will be available for all to sample later this month when around £400,000 of wine from his cellar at Paris town hall will be auctioned.
More than 4,000 bottles will go under the hammer, most dating back to Mr Chirac's time as mayor of Paris when the best "grands crus" were served at lavish receptions for international dignitaries and film stars. Mr Chirac was mayor from 1977 to 1995, a period noted for corruption scandals, but also for the vast quantity of food and drink imbibed at taxpayers' expense. In 2002 an auditor's report leaked to the press found that Mr Chirac and his wife, Bernadette, once spent £170,000 on food in one year. Their total personal food bill for one eight-year period was £1.4m.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |
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res must be really hot.
Moe Szyslak
No. Just really paranoid.
res ipsa loquitur
(1) Living in a police state will do that to ya.
(2) I've read your words. Moe is right.
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I don't think Mehlman will be well received in Narnia by anyone but the White Witch, who coincidentally was the Borg Queen.
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No. Just really paranoid.
I don't like my pics being posted on the Internets, either, inless I can pick and choose.
When we met in Michigan, I posted a pic, but because pie felt much the same way, she turned around to talk to Filkertom so as not to be seen in the photo.
And me? Heh. I had the camera, so no way in hell was I exposed.
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If and when HoJo wins the elections, the fucking Dems better put his office in a broom closet, and pull his seniority.
Hey Molly! Did you get the Robert Pollard/Tommy Keene disc? It's fab!
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Yes, it's quite simple, really. Lieberman is pulling the GOP vote. Schlessinger was at like 4% last time I looked.
McStain/Loserman, '08...
mark my words: the 'centrist' ticket
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Oh, YUCK!
I did not think it was possible to gross you out.
Meet for a drink 4-4:30?
Molly Ivors |
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I'm gonna call Snow. Back directly...
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We've had abortions, say 5,000 Americans as crucial vote nears
More than 5,000 women from across the United States have revealed that they have had abortions, in advance of a crucial vote next month that could determine whether terminations remain legal across the country.
The list, published next week in the feminist magazine Ms, includes its co-founder Gloria Steinem, the actor Kathy Najimy and comedian Carol Leifer. But most of the names are of ordinary women who have joined the petition out of fear that the tide is turning against legal abortions in America.
South Dakota votes on November 7 on whether to overturn a state law banning virtually all abortions, including those undergone for reasons of rape, incest or a woman's health. Only abortions needed to prevent the woman's death are permitted under the law.
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I don't think Mehlman will be well received in Narnia by anyone but the White Witch, who coincidentally was the Borg Queen.
I suspect when two queens meet there is always the potential for some friction.
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My picture is all over the internets.
Moe Szyslak |
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McStain/Loserman, '08...
mark my words: the 'centrist' ticket
If that dog hunts, I'm outta here.
I can't take another four years of this bullshit.
Ever notice how the economy sucks when Republicans are in office?
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Gilliard thinks what we know so far about Foley is the tip of the iceberg, and worse is coming.
When the Foley stuff first came out, there were lots of ominous statements flying around.
Molly Ivors |
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We've had abortions, say 5,000 Americans as crucial vote nears
More than 5,000 women from across the United States have revealed that they have had abortions, in advance of a crucial vote next month that could determine whether terminations remain legal across the country.
Where do I sign?
Virginia |
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Morning, rational people.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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I'm sorry to hear this:
Buck O'Neil, the goodwill ambassador for the Negro Leagues who fell one vote shy of the Hall of Fame, died Friday night. He was 94.
He was the best thing about the Ken Burns' Baseball documentary.
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HE calls them "snack" cakes. To you and I, they're just cakes.
Urinal cakes?
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Where do I sign?
Virginia
It was several months ago, but I signed. I suppose potential employers can use the list against us, eh?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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Where do I sign?
Ms. magazine, I do believe.
plantsman, lowercase |
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The Navy Corpsman whose platoon murdered an Iraqi dude in cold blood, and made it look like he was an 'inusrgent'???
sentenced to 10 years, he will serve ONE in exchange for his testimony against the others...
no USer will serve life--or even 20-life, much less face the death penalty--for deeds done in Iraq against Iraqis...
so much for justice...
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Good morning, Diane C and Virginia!
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Ned down by twenty? Is this believable?
Yes, it's quite simple, really. Lieberman is pulling the GOP vote. Schlessinger was at like 4% last time I looked.
Lieberman is a Republican.
Vicki
I think 20 points is a bit much. Ten is believeable.
However, Lamont has apparently been putting together his GOTV, while Joe has been in an air war. That will narrow the gap. Also, any Republican who pulls a party-line lever will vote for Schlesinger, not Lieberman, ditto any Dem. And finally, Joe is fifth on the ballot, after two no-name candidates.
So in the end, it will be closer.
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Virginia,
Try the Ms. Website.
https://msmagazine.com/donations/
...n_c3_091906.asp
Molly Ivors |
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Urinal cakes?
NTodd4
The mayo might actually make them more palatable....
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So in the end, it will be closer.
NSA
Close ain't good enough!
Though I realize it's an uphill battle...
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Vicki, is the shiner fading a bit?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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Where do I sign?
Virginia
Here
And I did.
Virginia |
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Alex Witt
whore fucking whore for the right
she is saying what the dems did about Gerry STudds matters now and never mentioning Phil Crane and what the Republicans did
what a stupid fucking republican whore
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sentenced to 10 years, he will serve ONE in exchange for his testimony against the others...
Wonder how much time the war deserters will get.
Moe Szyslak |
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Mornin, Vicki! I never heard how you got a black eye!
Virginia |
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Diane C -
It's almost more like an abrasion now. It looks funky. I have some creams on it. I'm hoping by Monday it's just a bit red.
Was thinking of maybe going to Merle Norman this afternoon for some new make-up (i.e. concealer).
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So in the end, it will be closer.
NSA
old war saying: close doesn't count except in hand-grenades and horseshoes...
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'HE calls them "snack" cakes. To you and I, they're just cakes.
Urinal cakes?
NTodd4 '
paddy cakes.
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(thanks, Molly!)
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Gilliard thinks what we know so far about Foley is the tip of the iceberg, and worse is coming.
Karin
When the Foley stuff first came out, there were lots of ominous statements flying around.
Molly Ivors
Yep.
It will be almost as fun to watch as the Republican Civil War after they lose the House.
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Hee, Greenwald says the Foley scandal is proof of intelligent design.
Moe Szyslak |
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10.07.06 - 9:32 am | #
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Fucking cookies. (Sorry, Denny.)
Steve Simels (somebody buy him a drink for me) regrets the error.
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Alex Witt's regular gig is weekend mornings, the ratings are very low. Thank heavens for small favors.
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I never heard how you got a black eye!
Barndog hit me in the library with a candlestick!
No, just some stupid story, too embarrassing really. A friend whopped my in the face during an animated discussion. It was by accident, but she had a cigarette in her hand, so it burned me face a little under my right eye.
Reason 16,000,000 not to smoke: you might inadvertently clobber a friend. (I'm not the anti-smoking police, you guys...I'm just sayin', in this case.)
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paddy cakes.
Ah, so it's James Baker in his pocket!
That makes a certain sort of sense.
Molly Ivors |
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I found Snow. His flight was cancelled. He is here, though, and traipsing around town.
Said he will meet us at 4 PM for a drinky.
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See, Vicki, I suggested you get creative with make-up this week-end!
plantsman, lowercase |
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I found Snow. His flight was cancelled.
I hate that when it happens - but only when I'm travelling "to" someplace.
On the way home, I never care. I take the free voucher and be done with it. I've gotten free vouchers because I've given up a seat or because my flight's been cancelled, plus upgraded to first class.
Sweet.
I love to travel. Wish I had more money to do so.
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Buck O'Neil, the goodwill ambassador for the Negro Leagues who fell one vote shy of the Hall of Fame, died Friday night. He was 94.
Bob Edwards of NPR did a great interview with him, the audio is available somewhere on the internets, but I can't seem to locate it at the moment.
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Lieberman is Gaius Baltar.
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We know Snow had a ziploc with Disney characters on it rather than the regulation clear Ziploc. That's why they wouldn't let him on the plane.
Molly Ivors |
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Sheesh. I see Crooks & Liars linked to me and I missed.
Damn NYC vacation! Makes me miss all the good things.
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James Baker is very evil. He orchestrated the whole
anti-Dem disinformation campaign in FL in 2000.
plantsman, lowercase |
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res - email me where
ql in ny appalled |
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Sheesh. I see Crooks & Liars linked to me and I missed.
nobody ever fucking links to me.
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Reason 16,000,000 not to smoke: you might inadvertently clobber a friend. (I'm not the anti-smoking police, you guys...I'm just sayin', in this case.)
Vicki, Who
Ouch!
I have reason number 16,000,001: I was sitting in the driveway in my car about to get out, had a lit cig in my hand, and tried to put my purse strap over my head. Knocked the fire off the cigarette, which fell onto the seat between my legs. I was wearing shorts, nd in my haste to get my butt up off the seat, slammed my foot to the floor; my big toenail caught on the brake pedal and I ripped that sucker right off. Ick.
*sigh* I'm a graceful little thing . . .
Virginia |
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CSpan will talk about laws about online solicitation next. I'm there.
James Baker, not Bay Buchanananananon.
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res -
Am I invited?
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spork_incident |
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happy rocktobersurprisefest burfday, FUX news. now eat shit, bark at the moon and die.
go As.
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Lieberman is Gaius Baltar.
Gaius is more Bush and an Iraq PM all rolled up in one; a loser getting his strings pulled--hard.
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nobody ever fucking links to me.
It's the digital. It smells funny.
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spork_incident |
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nobody ever fucking links to me.
It's the digital. It smells funny.
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spork_incident |
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*sigh* I'm a graceful little thing . . .
I know *just* how that feels, being 'light on my feet' and clumsy and all....
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QL,
Dunno where yet. Must figger out a place down there somewhere, I suppose.
Molly I.,
Where are you going to de-camp/park? Down there, I suppose?
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Great story, Virginia. My lit cigarette end fell off on my lap while I was driving and I barely escaped being hit by a truck when I swerved while brushing it off. [The trucker stopped to make sure I was okay, some kind of nice of him.]
Ruth, revolted |
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Re pics: anybody who wants their pictures last night posted (or not, as the case may be), please lemme know. I'm only posting more abstractish/anon ones until I get permission.
(I'll ask folks tonight, too.)
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That wasn't a candlestick, Vicki.
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John Aravosis
So here's my dilemma. Denny Hastert says that if I don't report the unsubstantiated allegations I've heard, I'm a criminal...
So what do I do? Do I publish unsubstantiated rumors about a GOP congressman and one of Denny Hastert's top aides? I don't want to, I don't think it's right, but Denny Hastert says he'll sic the FBI on me for hurting children if I don't. And he'll probably end up blaming Nancy Pelosi if my rumors turn out to be true and I didn't go public with them.
BRING. IT. ON.
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*sigh* I'm a graceful little thing . . .
Virginia
Grace is not one of my virtues, either, Virginia. Sez a woman who broke two feet/ankles at once falling down stairs.
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Sheesh. I see Crooks & Liars linked to me and I missed.
nobody ever fucking links to me.
NTodd4
In that case, I would demand to be un-registered.
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It's the digital. It smells funny.
And this is why you're not invited to drink at 4pm.
NTodd4 |
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Wow! The sun's not up yet, and the Moon is bee-you-tee-ful!!!!
plantsman, lowercase |
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Well, this Friday's news dump may not have been as spectacular as last week's, but it may be even more important: it looks like the investigation of Abramoff's White House visits is beginning to pay off.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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SCT, I was thinking that because Lieberman is such a collaborator, but you're probably more on the mark.
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That wasn't a candlestick, Vicki.
Barndog, mandolinist

I stand corrected. Whatever it was, it was *certainly* hot.
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Said he will meet us at 4 PM for a drinky.
res ipsa loquitur
I am SOOOO envious. 
Barry from AK in Chicago |
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Barry, Al - the dog - had a staph infected sore. He has been given a shot and antibiotics as well as a shaved spot and ointment. Much better now.
(See, I thought I had nothing to say but GO TIGERS)
DWD- Fortified with Resolve |
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I'm outtahere.
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DWD,
GO TIGERS.
Wouldn't that be wild if they won today?
And I predicted Michigan by 10.
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spork_incident: It's the digital. It smells funny.
Howie Mandel was on Ferguson last night... said when he wants some space in a crowded elevator, he starts sniffin' his finger.
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Barry, Al - the dog - had a staph infected sore. He has been given a shot and antibiotics as well as a shaved spot and ointment. Much better now.
(See, I thought I had nothing to say but GO TIGERS)
DWD- Fortified with Resolve
Glad to hear that DWD, we were wondering about him the other night. 
Barry from AK in Chicago |
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Uh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today |
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Why does everybody but me get to travel? It's not fair. I have to stay home and paint the ramada.
NOT FAIR!!
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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More Curly, please!
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I am SOOOO envious.
Barry from AK in Chicago
. . . said "Where's Barry?" from Alaska . . .
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res,
Yeah, we'll find a lot. I sent you a suggestion around the corner from dinner.
Molly Ivors |
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Uh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today
Congratulations.
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YOU get the ramada.
plantsman, lowercase |
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Uh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today
What, you got something goin' on, or something?
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SCT, I was thinking that because Lieberman is such a collaborator, but you're probably more on the mark.
BlakNo1
He'd be more like one of the NCP who doesn't mind going out in the middle of the night and locking people up on order because "it's the right thing to do" and you'll be viewed as "a hero" later. Joe would be more like one of Baltar's butt sharks who likes working with the skin jobs 'cause they "keep order".
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To Alex Witt the most important question in the Foley affair is what did the Democrats do in 1983
saying nothing about Phil Crane
especially the washington post story saying they did cover it up
she is either the biggest moron in the world or a stupid, fucking republican whore
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Just came back from Arkansas ... I was flipping through the TV channels and I came across yet another of those hosted news/commentary shows. I didn't recognize the host but I'm pretty sure it was on CNN ( I didn't stick around long enough to find out).
The guest was the Columbine father who originally was on with Katie. His spiel? That liberals are trying to censor him.
He must be memorizing the same press releases/talking points that Mighty Aphrodite has (althought in his case, I'd guess someone had to read them to him ... /snark).
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Dr. Barmpot-aren't you going to Canada to check out the bungalow?
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Wow! The sun's not up yet, and the Moon is bee-you-tee-ful!!!!
plantsman, lowercase
Yes it was - did you make your three wishes?
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Uh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today
Happy Get Married Day, Zap!
And may all the blessings in the world drop softly on you and your bride.
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And this is why you're not invited to drink at 4pm.
Awww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.
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spork_incident |
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And this is why you're not invited to drink at 4pm.
Awww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.
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spork_incident |
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Well, this Friday's news dump may not have been as spectacular as last week's, but it may be even more important: it looks like the investigation of Abramoff's White House visits is beginning to pay off.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Au contraire, ma cherie. Susan Ralston's sudden resignation "after an internal ethics investigation, in order to not distract" is SOOOOOOO obviously a prelude to an indictment.
She's Rove's right hand, and this is a nasty wound in the days before the election. It will affect messaging and coordination, which as you can see, is already in a dither.
Tectonic, as Josh would say.
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. . . said "Where's Barry?" from Alaska . . .
Virginia
Barry is being a sad traveling panda.
Off to Toledo in just a bit, then Honolulu.
If I can't win the "farthest traveled" award, maybe I can win the "farthest away commented" award?
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Yes it was - did you make your three wishes?
I did. You can guess what they are. 
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Congratulations and a *pleasant* evening, Zap!
plantsman, lowercase |
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Awww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.

That...image...is too much for my maple pure mind.
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GO TIGERS.
Wouldn't that be wild if they won today?
no, it wouldn't. it'd deprive me of the pleasure of watching the As stomp the yamn dankees in the dirt.
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Today would have been my sister's 54th birthday.....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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I think Tom DTL might have that distinction. But you definitely win the Most Exotic Locales Posted From Award, Lifetime Category.
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Uh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today
I was actually going to check to see if it was today. I knew it was ths or next week.
Congratulations!
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she is either the biggest moron in the world or a stupid, fucking republican whore
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those are NOT mutually exclusive, i'm sure you know...
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Uh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today
NTodd's posting pics - you should too.
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plantsman: More Curly, please!
Curly? I gotta make more...
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'Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today'
Whooop it up, then.
outahere meself.
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Best wishes to you and your bride, Zap!
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Awww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.
Hold on, I'll go talk to watertiger about that...
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NOT FAIR!!
Dr. Barmpot
I got to have a longish conversation with Athenae last night (which is why I hung around and drank that last fatal glass of beer) and I must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing. What a woman. I really do want to be her when I grow up.
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May your fond memories of your sister comfort you today, Dr. Barmpot.
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Awww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.

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Zap,
Hope your marriage goes better than the Twins, ya know?
Congratulations.
Off to shuttle some Dem canvassers for a few hours - have a good day.
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Gotta head out, ...
Everyone in NYC, have one for me!
Back in a few hours from that bastion of Liberty, Toledo Ohio.
Ugh.
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catch you all laters
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Have a most excellent happy day, Zap!
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Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today
all joy to you, borther!@!
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I must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing.
Yes, and she also exudes a great deal of compassion. She's a wonderful woman, just wonderful.
But quilt lady, you ain't so bad yourself, you know. You're charming and intelligent, and I had a lovely conversation with you in Philadelphia, as I recall. I hope you all have a great time. Kiss Simels for me.
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jac,
I tend to think the Ralston thing is huge, too.
As KO noted, Rove should go out looking for lost wallets, because he's improbably lucky.
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and I must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing.
She's amazing!
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Molly Ivors,
Never been there, but looks as good as anywhere else. 4 PM?
I will disseminate.
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Back in a few hours from that bastion of Liberty, Toledo Ohio.Ugh.
Barry from AK in Chicago - 9:48 am
ummm, the Toledo Blade's one of the best papers in the country...
just sayin'
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Hold on, I'll go talk to watertiger about that...
NO FLIRTING!
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The guest was the Columbine father who originally was on with Katie. His spiel? That liberals are trying to censor him.
Like his crazy-ass shit isn't going to censor itself?
And speaking of Katie:
The CBS Evening News with Katie Couric saw a further audience exodus on the first two days of this week, even as viewers tuned into the nightly news programs in greater numbers for news about the Amish school shootings and the sex scandal involving Florida Congressman Mark Foley. According to Nielsen the viewer numbers broke down this way: Monday: NBC, 9,940,000; ABC, 8,490,000; and CBS, 8,100,000. Tuesday: NBC, 8,630,000: ABC, 8,490,000; and CBS 6,550,000.
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Zap's getting hitched today? Mazel tov, dude.
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Off to Toledo in just a bit, then Honolulu.
One of these things is not like the other...
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Have fun nuptuals-wise, Zap!
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I got to have a longish conversation with Athenae last night (which is why I hung around and drank that last fatal glass of beer) and I must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing.
Athenae ROCKS!!!
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Never been there, but looks as good as anywhere else. 4 PM?
Reviews say cheap and friendly and mapquest says it's close to where we want to end up.
Molly Ivors |
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Back in a few hours from that bastion of Liberty, Toledo Ohio.
I grew up there, as did Katie Holmes.
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CBS 6,550,000.
Supreme Commander Thor
Shortest evening news anchor career ever?
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Trolls are not early risers, thank dog!!
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One of these things is not like the other...
Well, if you close your eyes and drink a glass of pineapple juice...
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Kiss Simels for me.
Vicki, Who
I kissed Simels.
I kissed Feral.
I kissed NTodd
I kissed Spork
I kissed hisstoryman
I kissed Ridichrome
... Im sure I'm leaving out someone.
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CBS 6,550,000.
Supreme Commander Thor
Shortest evening news anchor career ever?
Virginia
She'll soon be doing the news in a bikini if this keep up.
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Thanks everyone! I wish that you could all be in Saint Paul today so I could share this day with you. You're like, my extended family, 'n shit.
I should probably, like, do stuff, or something.
All you east coast elitists have one on me!
Peace!!
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I will disseminate.
Oooh, Soul Coughing!
watertiger |
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Athenae ROCKS!!!
This is very true.
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Dr. Barmpot-aren't you going to Canada to check out the bungalow?
Karin
Not today I'm'n't. Today I have to paint the ramada. And vacuum. And make a chicken meatloaf. And plant some celery and stuff. The agent is supposed to be sending me more pictures of it tho.
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QL,
Just sent you the deets.
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ummm, the Toledo Blade's one of the best papers in the country...
I used to deliver it. Their tag was always "One of America's Great Newspapers". They have done a great job during the Bush Clusterfuck Era.
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She'll soon be doing the news in a bikini if this keep up.
Will. Not. Help.
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Athenae ROCKS!!!
Afuckingmen.
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Athenae ROCKS!!!
Afuckingmen.
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Trolls are not early risers, thank dog!!
It seems hte Trolls are having a hard time trying to keep up with the, "So, you support the GOP going after kids?" retort. Lose/lose for them anyway you look at it--and they're losers to begin, so it's the trifecta troll smackdown.
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Oh, I think that the Karen Ralston story is huge, but I don't think it's going to get the ink or the electrons right now that the Foley scandal is getting.
And I also think that in the long-run, her story is going to have wider repercussions than Foley's.
It's just not as sexy.
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Morning, everyone.
Congratulations and best wishes for a happy future together.
for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.
Take those vows seriously, because you are going to see some of everything.
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Just sent you the deets.
People are drinking? In a bar?
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Peace!!
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today
Big hugs to you and your sweetie, sweetie! Have a beautiful day!
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spork & tigre,
Deets on the way.
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Have a very, very nice wedding Zap & Zapette. Be nice to each other and remember to do the Dance of Joy.
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Will. Not. Help.
plantsman, lowercase,/i>
That smile of hers makes me think she went to the Joker School of Broadcast Reporting.
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This was for Zap and his bride, of course.
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Not today I'm'n't. Today I have to paint the ramada. And vacuum.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
What color are you going to paint the vacuum? Will it match the toaster?
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I witness more sweet emotions here than anywhere
else in my little life these days. Atrios be praised.
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What color are you going to paint the vacuum? Will it match the toaster?
hee hee.
pie |
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Take those vows seriously, because you are going to see some of everything.
pie
Truer words were never spoken.
Sadly, I have a friend who has terminal brain cancer. He fell in love with and married a woman who had been hurt before in life. He took her in, loved her, straightened her teeth, bought her a beautiful home, and they were gloriously happy until he was diagnosed.
She just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.
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spork & tigre,
Deets on the way.
Most excellent. I shall not screw up again.
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What color are you going to paint the vacuum? Will it match the toaster?
jac
I did see that there's a company who'll slipcover my icebox in copper - that'd be pretty kuhl.
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Have a wonderful wedding Zap and life after!
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NTodd: I grew up there, as did Katie Holmes.
Yeah... and look what happened to the two of you!
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kissed Simels.
I kissed Feral.
I kissed NTodd
I kissed Spork
I kissed hisstoryman
I kissed Ridichrome
... Im sure I'm leaving out someone.
ql in ny appalled
Umm. Yeah, I've been meaning to talk to you about that.
Harumph.
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I grew up there, as did Katie Holmes.
NTodd4 - 9:52 am
so did my dad, at least part of the time...he went to devilbiss high, class of '37 or '38...
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I'm from the same town as Noah Adams and Ashley Judd.
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This is why I like Barcelona:
BARCELONA, Spain - Albert Rivera's nude body is everywhere to be seen — just what he wants as he runs for president of Catalonia. Rivera has filled the streets of Barcelona and other Catalan cities with thousands of posters of him in the buff, modestly shielding himself with his hands.
The 26-year-old lawyer knows his campaign to lead this powerful northeastern Spanish region is a long shot. But he hopes at least to get voters talking about something else besides their role within Spain and whether they should speak Catalan or Spanish.
"We believe that we need a modern Catalonia where nationalism is not the only thing on the agenda," Rivera said in an interview. "Public money that's sunk into projects like Catalan-only sports teams or a Catalan national anthem should be destined to projects that encourage social equality."
His gimmick has brought attention to his fledgling Ciutadans, or Citizens, party as it tries to win seats in the Catalonia parliament Nov. 1. The party is stressing mundane issues like housing and transportation.
Beside Rivera's picture, the poster reads: "We don't care where you were born. We don't care which language you speak. We don't care what kind of clothes you wear. We care about you."
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hee hee.
pie
You my new best friend.
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kissed Simels.
I kissed Feral.
I kissed NTodd
I kissed Spork
I kissed hisstoryman
I kissed Ridichrome
SLUT!
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Good morning. (SO nice not to be up at 5AM!). What did I miss in the last 180th-of-a-Friedman that resulted in a big-ass article showing up in the SPTimes about the "shadowy role" some "unknown blog" played in exposing Foley? Have y'all been talking about this or is it just wingers?
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/10/
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Oh, and... Chuck Wollery. How could I forget Chuck!
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I hear watertiger is going to take control of NTodd's diet and exercise regimen and make him live according to the tenets of Scientology.
Oh wait. That's Tom Cruise abnd Katie Holmes. steve simels regrets the error.
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It's just not as sexy.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Sex sells and that's why the Karen Ralston story will be buried by the MSM.
Robert Kuttner has written his usual first rate column attacking the Bushboy/Gooper incompetence and corruption in today's Boston Globe.
Consider how many Gooper foxes have been appointed to "guard the hen house."
There are more than most people realize.
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She just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.
This happens more than we care to think. Luckily for my mom, when her cancer recurred, my Dad became a wonderful loving care-giver till her end.
And our relationship improved immeasurably.
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Most excellent. I shall not screw up again.
Heh.
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spork_incident |
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She just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I'm gonna go ahead and pass judgment.
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I witness more sweet emotions here than anywhere
else in my little life these days. Atrios be praised.
Me, too. Someone said something to Dr. Barmpot last night that made me cry - the poignancy of the comment. It was that she does things in life that matter in practical ways.
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We Are Not Either Unknown.
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Most excellent. I shall not screw up again.
How did you manage to screw that up?
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watertiger screwed up? That'd be a first.
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Most excellent. I shall not screw up again.
Thank god for Internet cafes...
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Hastert has amassed a 6 million dollar fortune from his time in the House. Nice work if you can get it.
http://www.iht.com/articles/
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I loves me some Wolcott:
Also on the panel was Ana Marie Coy Expressions, who needs to run a comb through her hair before going on camera and knock off the discount Maureen Dowdisms.
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res -
Got it.
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"the discount Maureen Dowdisms."
...and the final word that needs to be written about Wonkette, has been written.
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Heavens to Betsy I'm feeling unmotivated this morning.
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She just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.
This happens more than we care to think.
Five brothers, and they all disappeared.
Molly Ivors |
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pie,
Is your Comcast all fucked up? Mine keeps crashing. I haven't had an e-mail from anyone in at least 12 hours - including the bazillion daily briefings I get on things from astrology to politics to my bank account to daily positive thoughts, etc.
It's bugging me.
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Nim, I thought you were getting married today too?
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Also on the panel was Ana Marie Coy Expressions, who needs to run a comb through her hair before going on camera and knock off the discount Maureen Dowdisms.
Man that was some choice snark!
Ah-nah, my ass!
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Ana Marie Coy Expressions

He's right about the coiffure, too.
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...and the final word that needs to be written about Wonkette, has been written.
Nim
Calling her Dowd-y makes for a nice dual-purpose putdown.
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Heavens to Betsy I'm feeling unmotivated this morning.
If it makes you feel any better I've no intention of leaving my couch, my bed, or my PJs at any time before at least noon.
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Heavens to Betsy I'm feeling unmotivated this morning.
If you're interested in Chinese archeology, the Asia Society has a fab new exhibit. I was chatting with their education director the other day.
Molly Ivors |
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And Zap ties the knot today? Congrats! Hope all goes wonderfully for the rest of your lives.
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Gooper foxes "guarding the hen house:"
A short list:
Hastert overseeing the House.
Frist overseeing the Senate.
Gonzalez overseeing the law.
Big Oil/Enron making Energy policy.
Big Pharma making Medicare policy.
Big Bio-Tech making FDA policy.
The MSM making FCC policy.
Big Energy & Big Auto making EPA policy.
And overseeing the whole shootin' match is Bushboy, the lord pertecter!!!
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The maggots are eating Denny's brain.
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Nim, I thought you were getting married today too?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
?????????????????????????????????
I did not know that.
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I did see that there's a company who'll slipcover my icebox in copper - that'd be pretty kuhl.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
vandykes.com has an awesome copper bathtub, and kitchen sinks.
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watertiger screwed up? That'd be a first.
with age comes loss of memory.
that and an unerring sense of being just one block off all the time.
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"Nim, I thought you were getting married today too?
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers"
Well, I hadn't planned on it, but if there's a weekend special airfare to Las Vegas, I'd consider it.
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I loves me some Wolcott:
That's it. I see the man in the street fairly regularly. Next time, I'm going all "Wayne's World I'm Not Worthy" on him.
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Congrats on the big day, Zap! Many happy returns.
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Good morning, everyone -- just wanted to say that I had an excellent time at the party last night, even though I had to duck out relatively early because of work today. Res, if you're still around, thanks again...
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Heh. I'm free for the weekend. Thought I might have to go in today or tomorrow.
Currently meeting uncle smokes at 1:00 to do a bit of sightseeing in lower Manhattan.
Interested sportk? Or anyone else hanging out in NYC this weekend.
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Zap Rowsdower,
The happiest of marrying days to you.
I'm not so good at the something "old", "new" or "borrowed" parts of the rite, but if you need something "blue", I'm your guy 
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Jen just told me she'd marry Nim today if he'd let her...she says she wants to lock him up for life!
Bwahahahahahahahahaha.
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res, you're totally worthy. Talk to Wolcott!
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Five brothers, and they all disappeared.
Molly Ivors
So sad. I'm not really passing judgment, although it's awfully tempting. I know people can handle different levels of intensity, and everyone doesn't know how to get help (HOSPICE).
It just seems like that's an escape that would plague a person for the rest of his/her life. Regrets, much? And I'm perverse (?) in that I want to be there for folks when they are in their darkest hours.
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Copper sinks? Well, of course it does -- it's much heavier than water.
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but if you need something "blue", I'm your guy
Hey, I do the "blue" thing, too, and I've got time right now--
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3-day weekend here, Canajun Thanksgiving.
I intend to spend at least 40 hours of that time on the couch.
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Okay, kids. I'm going to try to get this massive geographical formation known as the family to move toward leaving: showers, baths, clothes.... it all takes time.
At the appointed place at the appointed hour, then, bats.
*mwah!*
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If you're interested in Chinese archeology, the Asia Society has a fab new exhibit. I was chatting with their education director the other day.
Hmmm...also, there's some photo shows down in Chelsea.
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If you're interested in Chinese archeology, the Asia Society has a fab new exhibit. I was chatting with their education director the other day.
The Jewish Museum has that comic book show which looks great, but they're closed this weekend and next. Lots of Jewish holidays.
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Hospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.
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Copper sinks? Well, of course it does -- it's much heavier than water.
Jeffraham Prestonian
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ql -
Yeah, sounds good. Let me know the details.
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Typing with a nudgey cat on one's lap makes typing difficult.
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Speaking of Wolcott, did ya'll see the cover of the new "VF?"
My boyfriend's on it, dancing with some blonde tramp.
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Hospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.
That's what we did. But someone needs to be there all the time, and it helps if there's a lot of someones to do it.
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Ooh. George Felix should be really busy this weekend.
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Just read this about some of Bushes "signing statements" (executive branches way of hiding their hands, fingers crossed, behind their backs as they say "I promise!") among them...
Mr. Bush, for example, said he would disregard a requirement that the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency must have at least five years experience and "demonstrated ability in and knowledge of emergency management and homeland security."
His rationale was that it "rules out a large portion of those persons best qualified by experience and knowledge to fill the office."
Now, maybe this is somehow not as moronic as at first? I mean, do they mean the law states the person has to specifically come from FEMA, OR does it mean what I think, that one has to have experience "in the field" which would mean it could be experience elsewhere (in which case, the White House once aganin are shown being dishonest).
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My boyfriend's on it
res, We have the two bestest boyfriends in the world.
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Hospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.
plantsman, lowercase
I'm just wondering whether I couldn't call for some respite care for myself.
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Hospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.
plantsman, lowercase - 10:09 am
my dad was in a home-hospice care program...a nurse came to the house every other day for the last 6 mos of his life...when he died, it was she whom we called...
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Walcott's been slacking with his blog. That needs to change.
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Molly, I wish you peace and healing from the hurt.
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Rerun of yesterday's Sam Seder is teasing some guy named Duncan something, of some blog thingy or other.
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Wolcott.
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If America was truly the greatest nation on earth:
1. We would have direct election of the president and eliminate the electoral college.
2. We would stop invading other countries or overthrowing democratically elected (or any other) governments.
3. We would have national singlepayer health insurance that would cover everyone.
4. The Gooper party would be outlawed for seeking the overthrow of the US Constitution and the government derived therefrom.
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I'm just wondering whether I couldn't call for some respite care for myself.
Girl, you've EARNED That!
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plantsman,
George Felix Macacastein I-Never-Sent-A-Naughty-IM-to-a-Teenager Allen Junior is the only Republican who is happy about L'Affair de Foley.
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Gilliard nails it:
As for the House leadership...
When the Allies liberate German concentration camps in 1945, they marched the locals into the camps at gunpoint, so they couldn't deny they didn't know and hadn't seen.
I'd like to take them to a mental hospital, youth prison, group home, wherever the survivors of child abuse are housed, and let them ask how it feels to be betrayed by those you loved and trusted. So they can't pretend they didn't commit a great crime, a crime which they cannot escape or deny.
As for Reynolds, Drudge and the rest, I'd like to take them to the Hetrick-Martin institute, and the kids there, chased from homes and schools for being gay, can discuss the issues of older people trying to take advantage of them is like. So they can't say they don't know.
Foley is a monster, a living, breathing monster. He's not just a goofy old man, or a solved problem. He hurt people, he ruined lives. If he fucked kids, he did tremendous damage to them. He used his office to seduce children, to bend them to his will, used them and discarded them. What do you think he did? He wasn't chasing a child, this wasn't Lolita. He was chasing as many kids as he could find. He was spending money on them, feeding them booze. What the fuck do you think happened to them?
They call them child abuse survivors for a reason. Not everyone survives. We do not know what kind or wreckage Foley left in his wake.
The reason he survived for so long was the confederacy of cowards which protected him, for whatever reasons.
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hey again
congrats Zap hope you have a truly wonderful day.
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spork,
Yeah. We should pass legislation requiring him to post at least once a day. Of course, we'd have to chuck the 8th Amendment, but I think the Republicans might actually go for that one.
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I mean, do they mean the law states the person has to specifically come from FEMA, OR does it mean what I think, that one has to have experience "in the field" which would mean it could be experience elsewhere (in which case, the White House once aganin are shown being dishonest).
Tom Joad
Dear, this is why we invented the Civil Service.
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Mr. Bush, for example, said he would disregard a requirement that the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency must have at least five years experience and "demonstrated ability in and knowledge of emergency management and homeland security."
His rationale was that it "rules out a large portion of those persons best qualified by experience and knowledge to fill the office."
Like the assholes he's put in charge of FEMA? 86 can't figure out what he's gonna have for breakfast most of the time, but he knows who's "qualified" to run departments like FEMA.
Fuck The Decider. And everyone who voted for his stupid ass.
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spork, I emailed the deets to res to pass on to you cause I never can remember your real name.
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George Felix Macacastein I-Never-Sent-A-Naughty-IM-to-a-Teenager Allen Junior is the only Republican who is happy about L'Affair de Foley.
res ipsa loquitur
Speakina Mr. Sen. Allen, Jr., he's not the only Republican candidate Foot-in-Mouth Disease.
Ahnuld shares his propensity to say stupidly racist things.
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Who's liveblogging the Zap nups? When do they start?
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I am trying to get motivated to tidy my room as its currently extremly messy 
you can enjoy some Saturday View Blogging, also here
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res, Tweety got a good one in last night when he told Howard Fineman that Macacastein "Didn't seem happy to be revealed as Jewish. Fineman broke into a very genuine grin.
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I never can remember your real name.
I feel so insignificant. **sniffle**
And: I give up. Definition and etymology of "deets", please.
I never heard the word before today.
(Yes, I"m generally clueless.)
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Girl, you've EARNED That!
plantsman, lowercase
Well, maybe. But wanting isn't the same as having.
More coffee! And, where's the Albuquerque blue paint for the windows?
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George W. Bush killed nearly 30 American soldiers in Iraq this week...
it's gotta be a record of sorts...
and don gonyea is a fucking syphillitic whore...
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The reason he survived for so long was the confederacy of cowards which protected him, for whatever reasons.
Foley was a big money draw, so they kept him. Look the other way when he's on the computer, though, since the GOP didn't t want to know what he's up to.
The GOP: The Party That Hannibal Lecter Would Enjoy.
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I am trying to get motivated to tidy my room as its currently extremly messy.
That can be a very tough nut to crack. Good Luck!

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If it makes you feel any better I've no intention of leaving my couch, my bed, or my PJs at any time before at least noon.
res ipsa loquitur
I let the dog out to go pee and he took off. Now that he's rounded up, back to bed with my snoring sweety.
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I've lost context, but deets = details?
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Plantsman,
Thanks. It was a couple of years ago, now, but I have to say that I really haven't felt the same about my brothers since.
My MIL, who worked in respite care for a number of years, told me as things were coming to their end that no one would feel bad for me; they'd feel bad for my brothers who lost their mother. I didn't believe her, but she turned out to be right.
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Chris Tweety Matthews has been promoting his college tour appearances with Robin Williams
failing to mention he has a cameo appearance in the new movie --sort fatboy product placement and now they are promoting the movie
whoring as always
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and don gonyea is a fucking syphillitic whore...
It's been days since I've listened to NPR.
It's been nice. I should not-listen more often.
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I never can remember your real name.
I feel so insignificant. **sniffle**
I'm sure it is only a tribute to your fierce Jedi powers.
"This is not the spork you're looking for..."
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Asked his views on assimilation, Schwarzenegger said being a successful American requires immigrants to learn English and U.S. history in addition to fully engaging in the nation's culture.
Sort of like when one of his fellow countrymen once took over another country and then "assimilated" Austria into the family?
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Fuck The Decider. And everyone who voted for his stupid ass.
Supreme Commander Thor
You would think that The Decider might be less decisive after fucking up every decision he's made, but then The Decider is really The Denier, who refuses to see the carnage in Iraq or the burgeoning debt that his stupidity and ignorance have created.
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Molly, It was amazing how my two surviving sisters got so incredibly busy the last six months of mom's life. One managed to call on a daily basis.
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I've lost context, but deets = details?
Ah, that would make sense. T'anks.
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I never can remember your real name.
(waves hand frantically)
I know! I know! Pick me!
(I know everybody's real name, even Mrs. Atrios! And Hecate! Not pie, though.)
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Patty OBigot Buchanan says Fatboy Denny is the victim of a gay republican cabal
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Molly Ivors, you do, of course have plenty of people to shower love on -- including the incomparably manly Thers!
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"This is not the spork you're looking for..."
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It is rather difficult to motivate this morning, isn't it. The Great Hound has been trying to climb on my lap for an hour now - his way of telling me he wants to go for a walk. Must leave computer.
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One managed to call on a daily basis.
I had one brother--the best of the lot--who spent five minutes a day in the sickroom. Of course, he lived in the same house.
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Eyerack War Coalition Fatalities, animated map
http://www.obleek.com/iraq/
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deets is mosquito repellant
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Huzzah! To Zap and his bride! May your faces ache a week from smiling.
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Man, that post of Gilliard's really set off alarm bells at Brownshirt Central. He's got concern trolls, defeat trolls, and your standard issue moronic brownshirt fucks all whining in his comments section...
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You guys see this yet? Top post from Aravosis.
http://www.americablog.blogspot.com/
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I think we're unmotivated because it's cold. I sent the boy off to play soccer with his uniform over a sweatsuit. He looked like the Michelin Man.
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and a tasty new snack by Nabisco. less filling ... tastes Great!
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CNN was bad but there's a lot of blame to go around. Virtually every station reporting the Fat Bastard "The Dems did it" BS didn't go after how it was a move of desperation without any grounding whatsoever. Nor did they challenge Fat Bastard and the Repugnobots directly with making it up.
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The awful truth is that the Goopers have no redeeming features, and what's worse is that 40% of the American electorate still don't fucking know it!!!!!
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The Great Hound has been trying to climb on my lap for an hour now ...
Ah these Congressmen today, and their strange IM lingo...
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If Mark Foley's emails were not criminal, knowing about them could not be.
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"The Great Hound has been trying to climb on my lap for an hour now ...
Ah these Congressmen today, and their strange IM lingo...
driftglass "
Did you turn this over to the FBI yet?
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garage mahal
He may be right. I have this thought in my head that there are at least two more in the mix.
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Molly, it is cold. Fall is here, alas.
45 right now in Bland Rapids.
Our plans are shaping up nicely for Feral's visit next week, at least.
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The Fat Bastard can barely walk. He kind of lunges from step to step.
He also can barely talk, which is odd for "The Speaker," who mostly mumbles.
And for chrissakes don't ask him to walk and talk at the same time, it would cause so much consternation, he might expire!
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Patty OBigot Buchanan says Fatboy Denny is the victim of a gay republican cabal
liars for bush - 10:23 am
that'd be the notorious Log Cabal?
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Analysis: Hastert learned from wrestling
WASHINGTON - A lesson from Dennis Hastert's years as a high school wrestling coach: There's no one to blame but yourself if you get pinned.
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The strongest hit he could put on those pesky Democrats?
"Maybe they're resolving to, another way, to, to another political tactic," he said, and then the news conference was over.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061...DMzBHNlYwM3MDM-
That last paragraph is a clipped quote that pretty much makes no sense. Here is what he said at the end of his presser:
"Our friends on the other side of the aisle really don't have a story to tell, and maybe they're resolving to another way, to another political tactic"
So for two days the guy that learned personal responsibly from his days as a wrestling coach blamed the democrats.
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now when i write angry emails to various media outlets --i also send them to various other media outlets
i try to make the subject line as outrageous as possible
at least it makes me feel better
today I used nbc anchor condones sex with underage girls
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JEB Bush in the closet in Pittsburgh! Must read quip at Josh's.
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...that'd be the notorious Log Cabal?
Woody G.,
Someone (Billmon, maybe) had a post up this week that said conservative gay GOP insiders have been referring to themselves as the "Lavender Bund" since Reagan days.
Who the hell would call themselves such a thing?
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today I used nbc anchor condones sex with underage girls
Evidence that CBS anchor exposed asshole to nation.
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Who the hell would call themselves such a thing?
Conservative gay GOP insiders.
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Hastert been taking public speaking pointers from Dubya?
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liars for bush, I use the opposite tactic, figuring the readers will discount and delete any obviously angry email; but at least you're writing!
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Pressure increases on Speaker Hastert.
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Blowhard Buchanan (Pat or Bay) can be counted on for the dumbest shit in TV commentary and yet, they are always on either MSNBC, CNN, PBS or other channels.
I can't stand either and flick them off as soon as they appear, but they are indicative of how the MSM has promoted the dumbing of America.
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Rove: "go ahead and talk ignorant ... the public will find it endearing"
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Someone (Billmon, maybe) had a post up this week that said conservative gay GOP insiders have been referring to themselves as the "Lavender Bund" since Reagan days.
The Boys in the Bund, as it were.
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What Vicki said, add in German heritage.
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Lavender Bund
http://billmon.org/archives/002795.html
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Well, I need to risk arrest to put a meager amount of petrol in the 'Stang, sometime, today. Even though I never drive more than a mile, it still insists on being fed. Imagine that!
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Not pie, though.
I do!
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Bray Buchanan called for Hastert to step down.
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Molly -- I'm sorry the loss of your mom is/was so rough on you.
It's gotten easier for me to deal with losing my own mom as time has passed (12 years). However, my brother really neglected her all his adult life, and declined to help her in a time of serious need when he could (and I could not) offer it. I'll never forgive him for it. Plus, he was in this (her) house about 4 times in the many years she owned it, and never gave a damn, until she died and he remembered he had a financial interest in it. (She had made a will leaving it to me exclusively, but never signed the damned thing. Legal loophole, woohoo!)
He's -- guess what? -- a big bush repuke.
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I used to do what you do and then one day during the 2004 campaign I sent a very angey email...and got a response..so ever since then
I try to be amusing, provocative and as mean as possible within the bounds of truth.
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NBC anchor is Brian Williams. Are you guys sure you don't mean the new CBS anchor, Katie "I'm trying hard to be relevent" Kouric???
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Not pie, though.
I do!
Me, too, and Hecate, too.
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Henny Penny, who will help me bake this pie?
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Analysis: Hastert learned from wrestling
WASHINGTON - A lesson from Dennis Hastert's years as a high school wrestling coach: There's no one to blame but yourself if you get pinned.
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The strongest hit he could put on those pesky Democrats?
"Maybe they're resolving to, another way, to, to another political tactic," he said, and then the news conference was over.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061...DMzBHNlYwM3MDM-
That last paragraph is a clipped quote that pretty much makes no sense. Here is what he said at the end of his presser:
"Our friends on the other side of the aisle really don't have a story to tell, and maybe they're resolving to another way, to another political tactic"
So for two days the guy that learned personal responsibly from his days as a wrestling coach blamed the democrats.
That "maybe" says it all. He made the shit up. Pulled it out of his capacious ass.
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I even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim. 
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Who hiding in his basement?
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I even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Well, my last name isn't really Barking-Mad.
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Why is it so many people who claim to be so invested in "personal responsibility" fail their families at the worst possible times?
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My MIL, who worked in respite care for a number of years, told me as things were coming to their end that no one would feel bad for me; they'd feel bad for my brothers who lost their mother. I didn't believe her, but she turned out to be right.
Molly Ivors
I was okay with it by and large - right up to the day when Bunny-Bunny explained to me that he didn't feel any need to sympathise with the way my life had been put on hold because it had all been my choice and voluntary and therefore I must have preferred things to be the way they were. That was a little bit after he and Mrs. Bunny-Bunny got hold of the strange idea that my mother's household goods needed to be parcelled out, mostly to themselves, starting with the jewellery and car and proceeding to the furniture. That didn't get very far actually.
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capacious is a real word ... I looked it up lol means roomy
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White House aide to Rove resigns
Susan Ralston stepped down Friday from her post as a special assistant to President Bush. A congressional report showed she had extensive contacts with Abramoff and had accepted tickets to sporting events and concerts from him.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061...DJlYmhvBHNlYwM-
ralston was special assistant to bush but the headline says rove's aide? Why? Why not "special assistant to bush resigns" ?
Same thing with scooter. Among his many titles his main title was "Assistant to the President" yet news articles listed him as cheney's aide.
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I looked it up lol means roomy.
Denny Hastert's ass is certainly that.
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I even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Guess mine! Go ahead -- guess!
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Goddamn they are shameless, unaccountable, finger pointing fucks:
Duke: "I Hurt More Than Anyone Can Imagine"
By Justin Rood - October 7, 2006, 8:38 AM
Duke Cunningham speaks! In an error-laden letter to the reporters who helped put him in prison, the disgraced ex-congressman lashed out at the investigative team, its paper, one of his bribers and -- not TPMmuckraker. (We're hoping a separate letter is on its way.)
Duke, who may have been the first congressman ever to draft up his own "bribe menu," complained that the reporters only wanted to write about "how I died not how I lived." He cited his many accomplishments and citations, including "Library Man of the Year."
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/arch...ives/
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yeah ... I have to admit I'm not all that terrific either ô¿ô
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Molly and Dr. B,
Greedy and hateful people are hurtful. I'm so sorry.
I'm not a greedy type, so I don't understand the the entitlement issue.
I watched my best friend and her sister care for their mother on a daily basis for three years. They had twelve children in the family, and only those two visited mom. Some of the brothers hadn't seen their mother in over two years. The sweet thing refused to pass until all 12 kids were in the room, so at the last minute, her brothers from the Carolinas arrive, and the woman dies.
I know my best friend lives in peace, knowing that she cared for her mother without complaint.
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I've told people not to mess with Pittsburgh.
Idiot Jeb Bush brings only ONE security guard to this fundraiser in Pittsburgh for Manondog.
He has to SCURRY into a hideyhole like his idiot brother did.
Hope the fucker learns his lesson.
http://post-gazette.com/pg/06280.../728177-
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Guess mine! Go ahead -- guess!

I know yours! You've e-mailed me!
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OMG! Just heard the bit with Pony Blow, pimping out windows and siding! Haw!
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Spread the meme. Refer to rethugs as 'toasters'
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{{{Gomez!!!}}}
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As plantsman said, Jeb was in the closet in Pittsburgh. Heh.
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Hastert's pants are roomy right now, he hasn't had them on for days, and he's running out of Cherrios and 2% milk.
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A lesson from Dennis Hastert's years as a high school wrestling coach: There's no one to blame but yourself if you get pinned.
Pinning is one thing; pounding baby ass is quite another.
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"I even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore"
When my own affianced calls me that more than my "real" name, it might as well be =o
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As plantsman said, Jeb was in the closet in Pittsburgh. Heh.
And he goes to the Duquesne Club, where only the wealthy dine.
Until recently, no Jews, Catholics or Blacks allowed as members.
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When my own affianced calls me that more than my "real" name, it might as well be =o

Want that I bitchslap her for you? My little sister, the spitfire. She's fifteen years younger than me, I can still make an impression on her.
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Denny's wife has gone "down south," to be with the "grandchildren."
Tim Finnegan |
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SPORK - Did res email you the details?
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Until recently, no Jews, Catholics or Blacks allowed as members.
Nice. I guess I'm out - two of three. Jewish Catholic.
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My real name is the most closely-guarded secret on this blog.
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Helen Thomas' podcast in re Foley.
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My real name is the most openly-posted thingy on this blog.
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