I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarfirst!


Gravatarhave a good trip


GravatarAdios, Chief. Safe travels.


GravatarIt's a great time for putting the cabal out of office. Full moon and all.


GravatarWhile you'e traveling, come to Muskegon, Michigan next weekend and hang out with Vicki, Feral Liberal, Nim and whoever else may show up.

Bet it'll be a good time.


Gravatarafternoon moonbats


Gravatarfrom link; 'So CNN decided it was appropriate to allow government officials to hide behind anonymous quotes in order to accuse a private citizen of, essentially, obstructing justice.

But when that private citizen rebuts those accusations with an on-the-record, on-camera statement about who she tried to reach at the FBI, CNN edits the comments to conceal the FBI agent's identity.'

This is getting pretty amazing. The false accusations are reported, not the actual facts. CNN, Fair and Balanced no longer.


GravatarOf pride and protection rackets.


GravatarFirst caller on CSpan: 'I'm a recovering Republican.'


GravatarThe great Buck O'Neil died last night, a month before his 95th birthday. His denial in to the baseball Hall of Fame was a crime, but he took it so well.....


GravatarSecret trial for David Keogh and Leo O'Connor over the Al Jazeera memo leak


GravatarAnd here I was posting away on a dead thread.

Met up with a bunch of liberal elitists last night. Good times.


GravatarAnd here I was posting away on a dead thread.

Met up with a bunch of liberal elitists last night. Good times.


GravatarOT: Blunkett: how I cracked under the strain of scandal

· Ex-home secretary says he was clinically depressed
· He admits he failed to question Iraq intelligence


David Blunkett today reveals the full extent of his emotional turmoil at the time of his resignation as home secretary, admitting that he "cracked" and that "at one point I really did think I was going mad".

He recalls: "My whole world was collapsing around me. I was under the most horrendous pressure. I was barely sleeping, and yet I was being asked to sign government warrants in the middle of the night. My physical and emotional health had cracked."

Mr Blunkett concedes that he threw himself too much into his work: "I probably overdid it, compared with colleagues," he says. "In the early part of last year, after my resignation as home secretary, I was probably clinically depressed." He rejected the offer of antidepressants from a House of Commons doctor.


GravatarDay one Pelosi, break link between lobbyists and legislation, Day two enact 911 commission recommendations. Absolutely. But Day Three, how 'bout hearings on constitutionality of cretin in chief's signing statements.


GravatarOT: Bomber attacks 'model' Iraqi city

A suicide attacker using a bomb-laden lorry has killed 14 people at an Iraqi army checkpoint in the city of Tal Afar, a medical source told the BBC.

Four soldiers and 10 civilians died in the blast in the northern city which US President George W Bush held up as a model in a speech in March.

The renewed violence comes as it appears the US may be considering a major change in policy on Iraq.

Reports of a change came after a visit to Iraq by a senior Republican senator.

Tal Afar, to the west of Mosul, was supposed to be a showcase for American-led efforts to pacify Iraq, the BBC's Frank Muir reports from Baghdad.


GravatarGood Morning from trendy Fabulous Blue Ridge GA. It's foggy and 49 here on Sugar Creek..
My concern is that the Democratic establishment is simply not pushing back agains the Repuke Lies/claims of a plot.
Pelosi/Reid should be out in front flogging their accurate version of the story. CREW should be celebrated as a Public Interest group, and their message ("we gave this to the FBI as soon as we had it and they did nothing. Why NOT?") must be repeated and repeated.

It's like Sherlock Holmes "Dog that didn't bark in the night"...Why did the watchdogs of society in the FBI not bark at a highly placed predator?
What did Alberto know and when did he know it? Suggest AG Gonzales had a hand in the cover up, I mean, we've got as much evidence as the Pelosi bashers...
MR. Bill | 10.07.06 - 7:20 am | #


GravatarMorning, bats.

We're coming to dinner tonight, then driving straight back. Mother Thersites is ailing and doesn't want to see us.


GravatarStraw and the veil: second thoughts


GravatarHope all of you are well again, Molly I.

'And, by the way, isn't it strange that politicians who expressed moral objections to the desire of adult gays and lesbians to marry seemed to take the Foley matter so lightly when it first came to their attention? Where is the morality here?'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...6100601371.html

Political considerations defeat 'family values'.


GravatarHaster throws his CoS under the bus.

I've been wondering when he was gonna take the fall. Don't worry, Scott. I'm sure they'll find you a nice spot on a corporate board.


GravatarLet's go Tigers!!


GravatarWow Moonbotica, I didn't know that Straw was partly deaf.
Because of terminal shyness, I have difficulty locking eyes with people when I'm speaking to them. A deaf guy gave me a lot of grief because he was unable to read lips..
To be deaf in a county that embraces the veil must be tough...


GravatarI'm waiting to see if I can get other than SRO tix for today's game (aka handicapped seating).

I swore I'd never step foot in Comerica Park, but beating the Yankme's in the ALDS would be soooooooo worth it.


GravatarBlair-Rice talks to focus on Iran

British PM Tony Blair is to discuss possible sanctions against Iran when he meets US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for talks at his Chequers home.

The five permanent UN Security Council members and Germany have been leading efforts to persuade Tehran to abandon its nuclear programme.

The countries' foreign ministers agreed on Friday to begin consultations on possible UN sanctions against Iran.

The talks could start next week, though China and Russia favour more diplomacy.

Western powers fear that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons, a charge Iran denies saying that it is simply trying to develop nuclear energy.


GravatarWe're coming to dinner tonight, then driving straight back. Mother Thersites is ailing and doesn't want to see us.
Molly Ivors


Well that certainly sucks.

Don't know if we will make the dinner tonight. I had four beers last night.


GravatarI've been getting these DVDs from Netflix: Democracy University. They're fabulous. I'm watching Greg Palast now.


GravatarHey, moonbootica, interesting tho't - veils as social hostility. No one that I heard commented on the Amish community dressing funny during the press invasion there this week.


GravatarI had four beers last night -

Better put a couple of AA meetings in there somewhere today, QL...


Gravatarql, it's twelve hours from now. You can do it!


GravatarNo one that I heard commented on the Amish community dressing funny during the press invasion there this week.

I didn't hear anyone suggest that the Amish girls were responsible for their attacker wanting to sexually molest them, come to that.


GravatarYou can do it!
Molly Ivors


Yeah, but I may have to go to work today. It's supposed to be the start of my vacay.


GravatarMo Do on Mark Foley. I was beginning to wonder when one of the Times' op-ed columnists would get around to writing about this.

Have a nice, safe trip, Duncan.


GravatarIs Atrios coming to dinner tonight?


Gravatar Ruth, revolted | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 7:32 am | #

yeah its a complex issue which no simply answer.

i believe no where in the Qu'ran is the veil mentioned, I suspect its a cultural pratice, the Byzantines and the Ancient Greeks were veiling their women long before Islam came along.

Islam asorbed and adapted the cultures which surrounded it.

it worked both ways also, as the Muslims forbid depictions of the prophet they realy on very pretty patterns, which are quite intricate, and this must of had some affect in the Byzantine Empire, when you look at the Iconoclasm period during the reign of Emperor Leo III the Syrian or "Isaurian," (reigned 717-741; born in eastern Anatolia).


GravatarDon't know if we will make the dinner tonight. I had four beers last night.

Three gin-and-tonics for me, plus still all screwed up jet lag-wise. Felt like I was leaving my own party early, but just had to collapse. Still exhausted. Sitting here in a flannel robe and wool socks under a wool blanket and still freezing.

Is there anyone who is not in love with Athenae? Man. Woman. Gay. Straight. Entirely understandable why we all want to marry her.


Gravatarfrom below

I really do love reading Glenn Greenwald.

None of the standard obfuscation tactics used for so long by Bush followers are working here. To the contrary, their attempted use of those tactics is making things much worse for them, because people can see that Bush followers are attempting -- through the use of patently dishonest and corrupt tactics -- to excuse the inexcusable. And seeing that, it gives great credence to all of the accusations voiced over the last five years that this is how the Bush movement operates in every area, because people can now see it for themselves.
ql in ny appalled | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 6:57
am | #


Gravatar Why? Inquest wait goes on for families of dead soldiers

The Government has been accused of treating the families of dead servicemen with contempt and prolonging their agony by delaying inquests into their killings in Iraq.

For many grieving relatives, the coroner's court is their first chance to ask their own questions, while most insist it offers closure and a chance to move on.

But the families of almost two thirds of the 119 servicemen and women who have died in Iraq have not had inquests. Even the families of the first troops killed in the conflict, in a Sea Knight helicopter crash on 21 March 2003, have yet to have their day in court.

Ministers have repeatedly blamed a backlog at Oxford coroner's court as families were told that the inquests must be held there because the bodies were flown to RAF Brize Norton.


GravatarMolly, I did see a comment on the Fox News site Thursday saying that the Amish were being punished by God though. Can you believe it?


GravatarIs there anyone who is not in love with Athenae? Man. Woman. Gay. Straight. Entirely understandable why we all want to marry her.

Well, she's a goddess. I'm so glad she's around!


Gravatar Ruth, revolted | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 7:32 am | #

yeah its a complex issue which no simply answer.

i believe no where in the Qu'ran is the veil mentioned, I suspect its a cultural pratice, the Byzantines and the Ancient Greeks were veiling their women long before Islam came along.


It isn't mentioned. The relevant verse says something like this:
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them when they go out or are among men."

So it all depends on what one means by "outer garments". There is nothing about the covering of the head in the Koran, either. And there is a very clear verse saying that men must dress modestly, too.


GravatarBuck O'Neil has passed away. And with him, his precious memories of the Negro Leagues.
He made one of the greatest shames in American history palatable for fans of the great game. His smooth voice and sunny disposition will be remembered for as long as the game is played.
And shame on those who didn't vote this national treasure into the Baseball Hall of Fame while he was still alive. Shame! What were you thinking? Apparently, beatitude was not a virtue to you. It was to the rest of us. Mr. O'Neil, you will be sorely missed.
God bless you, Sir...
PS: How's Jackie hitting up there, and what's Satch's ERA this October?


GravatarMolly, I did see a comment on the Fox News site Thursday saying that the Amish were being punished by God though.

It's official: conservatives have no souls.


Gravatarjust can't read the Rummy op ed in WAPO today, I can get the lies from Fox if I want lies.


Gravatars there anyone who is not in love with Athenae? Man. Woman. Gay. Straight. Entirely understandable why we all want to marry her.
res i


Good thing I can't have kids anymore. I couldn't decide amongst Athenae, Glenn Greenwald, Al Gore, The Big Dawg, WT, etc. Just too many great people around.

Thanks for arranging that last night res. It was great to see uncle smokes and Feral and all the other Atriots again.


GravatarQL,

Feral just cracked me up when he said, "Shucks!" There really is a midwestern charm thing. You see it when THomas Frank is on teevee. Feral has it too.

And how fucking gorgeous (and sweet) is Bunter?


GravatarTwo wingers, Patrick McHenry of NC and a Rep from GA wagging crazy last night: " It's all about sick Mark Foley, it's not about Denny Hastert; It's ALL about Nancy Pelosi and Rahm Emanuel." Wha????


GravatarGood morning, moonbats!

Four beers last night, quilt lady? Oh my! I had four bottles of Gallo!

/I keed, I keed. Not drinking at the moment - goal is a clear head for interview.


GravatarA hymn to Athena from Apollonius Sophisotes:
"Athena, hear me, Aegis-bearing maid,
Thou daughter of the Mighty Father, aid
In every bold endeavor, standing by,
Companion on whose guidance I rely.
Thou knowest I've forfilled my every vow,
So please, I pray, be friendly to me now,
And hold thy hand above my works and give
Success on this and all the days I live."

So hail to Thee, Athena, Wisdom's child,
The source of thought and action reconciled,
The bright-eyed bringer of abundant wit,
Effective action's first prerequisite.
And hail to all the Goddesses of yore,
To all the ancient Gods that we adore!

Perhaps my song hath pleased thine ears; if so,
Thou might on me thy fruitful gifts bestow.

And it's a workday. Tonite I have a hot date with my guy, and we will have been together 11 years as of yesterday.
The love of a good man has enabled me to stand the 'slings and arrows..'

Ya'll have a good day..


GravatarWell, res, we get Feral next weekend.


Gravatarthks, Echidne, all these clothes rules are kind of strange - like men wearing hats indoors, which used to be bad manners. Modesty just doesn't seem like a bad idea, but in the desert in the heat, making people suffer for it doesn't work for me, anyway.

omg, Amish being punished by a crazy man - what kind of god do these people worship?


GravatarIf this Foley shite has been going on for 11 years, this list of people who "knew" would probably fill a book or two.

Paper tigers burn brightly.


GravatarVeil fetishism.


GravatarMorning, Grand Rapids contingent! I was thinking about dith's obsession with ultimate dimhood, and I settled upon Eleanor Roosevelt as the Ultimate Democrat.


GravatarHere is a Hymn to Athena from Apolloius Sophistes:
"Athena, hear me, Aegis-bearing maid,
Thou daughter of the Mighty Father, aid
In every bold endeavor, standing by,
Companion on whose guidance I rely.
Thou knowest I've forfilled my every vow,
So please, I pray, be friendly to me now,
And hold thy hand above my works and give
Success on this and all the days I live."

So hail to Thee, Athena, Wisdom's child,
The source of thought and action reconciled,
The bright-eyed bringer of abundant wit,
Effective action's first prerequisite.
And hail to all the Goddesses of yore,
To all the ancient Gods that we adore!

Perhaps my song hath pleased thine ears; if so,
Thou might on me thy fruitful gifts bestow.

And as it's a workday, I'm outta here.
Tonite me and My Guy have a hot date, it will be eleven years as of yesterday. The love of a good man has helped me endure 'the slings and arrows.'

ya'll go easy.


GravatarHung over...... black eye..... yeah.

That'd look really good Monday wouldn't it???


GravatarIs the P. Bong in mothballs, then, Vicki?


Gravatargoing to get some lunch, so catch you all laters


Gravatar"Athena, hear me, Aegis-bearing maid,
Thou daughter of the Mighty Father, aid
In every bold endeavor, standing by,
Companion on whose guidance I rely.
Thou knowest I've forfilled my every vow,
So please, I pray, be friendly to me now,
And hold thy hand above my works and give
Success on this and all the days I live."

So hail to Thee, Athena, Wisdom's child,
The source of thought and action reconciled,
The bright-eyed bringer of abundant wit,
Effective action's first prerequisite.
And hail to all the Goddesses of yore,
To all the ancient Gods that we adore!

Perhaps my song hath pleased thine ears; if so,
Thou might on me thy fruitful gifts bestow.


GravatarHung over...... black eye..... yeah.

That'd look really good Monday wouldn't it???


No can do, know what I mean, Barndog bean!

Hey, Sister of Ye wants to come hang next weekend. That offer of a bed in your camper still on?

Nim and Jen have like no spare rooms.


GravatarI can actually see how the face veil would make conversations tricky as you couldn't see the expressions. I suspect the face veil was intended to stop communications initially. I Googled for some images of women in Saudi Arabia and most of them don't seem to wear the face veil, so it looks like a fairly strong religious statement to make, and anyone wanting to make that statement would also be likely to believe in the total separation of the sexes. Which makes the initial story about Straw an odd one.


GravatarAlthough none of Foser's article is in any way surprising, it struck me as one of th4e most depressing things I've read in a long time. The way he lays out Fox's poisonous agenda then shows how they've managed to make CNN a Republican lapdog in order to "complete" -- it's just frightening.
The only solace in this is that fewer and fewer people are watching each day, each month. The real way news is distributed and filtered these days is through e-mail forwarding and Youtube. I think the true alternative media may be reaching a critical mass -- certainly for the demographic under, say 70. Of course there are more and more 70-plus people every day, and that's who's watching CNN, Fox, etc, -- and they do vote.
I'll dutifully forward Foser's article to a half dozen people, who will forward it to another 30, etc. Some will subscribe to Media Matters, and the drumbeat for truth -- which is flying under the radar for the most part (although the blogosphere's role in the Foley story has been front-page news this week.
The best news is that after years of flying complete under the radar, primarily with Tom delay's hand up his ass, Denny Hastert was exposed to the clear light of day. And as we've all seen, it's an ugly, ugly picture. I haven't heard anybody say it, but I think a lot of people have to be thinking: "How can they call this guy a leader?" Everything about his physical presence and demeanor is so...second rate. When the history of the era is written, the Hastert era in the house will surely be one of the low points for a body whose history is pretty checkered.
For years my pet project had been to start a blog on Hastert, running him into the ground they way other people have taken on single personalities. But blogging ain't easy (though it's necessary.) I couldn't stand the fact that the Speaker of the House of Representatives -- the number three person in succession to the president -- was such a cipher. Truth is, Hastert was so low profile, I couldn’t find much damning about him, other than his obvious sockpuppetry for Delay. But he very quietly and subtly oversaw the transmogrification of the House -- the people's House -- into a third-world politburo. Perhaps it would have turned out that way no matter that ran the place -- but he was nominally in charge.
It will takes years to unravel all the damage that's been done under Denny Hastert's "stewardship" of the House. It's pretty clear that a lot has been happening behind closed doors. It's also clear what will happen when some light is shone -- you have a corrupt rat like Gary Bauer allowing that the real wrong where is that soon-to-be-Speaker Pelosi has refused a polygraph, and Al Hunt leaving that assertion unchallenged. I think the next 2 years will (hopefully) involve a lot more light shining on the dark corners where Delaybramoff, et all, have carried out their criminal agenda on our behalf.


GravatarIs the P. Bong in mothballs, then, Vicki?
plantsman, lowercase


I gave it up for a bit, for obvious reasons, plantsman. You like, I can ship it to you.

It's really more of a piece of artglass.


GravatarHow Dith is able to type with one hand so quickly is a better question to answer for him.


GravatarY'all are taking about Foser's brilliant article I read last night, I assume.


GravatarCuz, like, d'uh, if I'd just read the damn thread.

Sorry, I just woke up.

We've hit the freezing point - it's 30 degrees here.


GravatarI'd rather see dith around here than most of the trolls. He's harmless.


GravatarI think so, jes. I'm just kinda bummed today - my buddy from Kentucky who was coming up fishing tommorrow... can't keep his blood pressure under control.

He got some new meds and all that, but just had a stint put in a couple months back, and a mild heart attack earlier this year.

The old bastid has me kinda concerned.


GravatarSeems Kinky wasn't too effective at the debate last night. And Granny couldn't name the president of Mexico. All in all, the results look good for Bell, the Dem. Perry has a record running against him, we need a strong candidate to get him out.


GravatarThere are more 70+ online everday too, and many of us here are no spring chickens; contributing no doubt to the richness of the broth hereabouts!


GravatarI settled upon Eleanor Roosevelt as the Ultimate Democrat.

I can live with that.


GravatarI wish you wonderful luck and results in the interview, Vicki. No need bong, no have stuff to burn.


GravatarSorry to hear about your pal, Barndog. One of you many lovable traits is your concern for people.

I'd go fishing with you if I didn't have to get my mind in gear for Monday.


GravatarAny poll data to see which version of the Foley scandal is believed and the impact on the November election?


GravatarSeems Kinky wasn't too effective at the debate last night. And Granny couldn't name the president of Mexico. All in all, the results look good for Bell, the Dem. Perry has a record running against him, we need a strong candidate to get him out.


Ruth, call me WAY out of my league and none of my beeswax, but I watched that debate, and I agree with your consensus. Good Hair is too pretty to be a Texan, though.


Gravatar'The old bastid has me kinda concerned.
Barndog, mandolinist'

hope his ticker holds on for awhile, lots of my family have heart problems. And how are you holding up?


GravatarGimlet,

Last poll I saw said that 61% of people think Republican leadership knew about and is covering this thing up. It was as (R)Assmussen.


GravatarBarndog, ask your friend if his Dr. has tried
"Toprol XL" to control his blood pressure. I take it and two other BP Meds, and a neurologist put me on it after my stroke. Few side effects and really brings the numbers down.


GravatarWm Buckley on pages; 'If we were bent on prohibiting the corruption of minors, half the magazine stands in the U.S. would be closed down by midnight."


GravatarAny poll data to see which version of the Foley scandal is believed and the impact on the November election?


All kinds of it, Gimlet, and it isn't looking good for the GOP. Daily Kos has excellent rundowns almost every day. And you might want to check out www.pollster.com

Menendez is up by 2 in NJ at the moment.


Gravatarplantsman, if you like artglass, though...


GravatarOut of your league doesn't work, we're all watching TX and we're all watching CT. But when you really, really want something it's easy to delude yourself. I STILL think Bell looks good. Cross your fingers, Vicki and all.


GravatarRep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, wrote a letter supporting Hastert, saying it was inappropriate to ask for the speaker's resignation when similar scandals in the 1980s prompted a "dramatically different standard."

Barton was referring to Democratic Reps. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts and Dan Crane of Illinois, both of whom were censured after having sexual relationships with 17-year-old pages. Crane lost his re-election bid, while Studds survived the scandal.

"No Democrat demanded prescience from Speaker Tip O'Neill, and no Democrat shouted for his resignation. Neither did any Republican," Barton wrote. "The focus was on the members who created the problem, as it should have been and as it should be now."


GravatarI will cross them, Ruth.

We want Granholm to defeat DeVos here in Michigan, too. Rasmussen had her up by 5 two days ago, after the first debate in which he completely sucked.

And, as everyone knows, Rasmussen leans R, although I have to say that when I hear him on talk shows, etc., he seems like he tries to be fair.


GravatarDemocratic Reps. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts and Dan Crane of Illinois,

Dan Crane was a Republican as you well know, I suspect.


Gravatarwhy should reporters working for a global news corporation be any different when it comes to money and employment influences, than say, the american public and their willingness to allow the election of a brain damaged alcoholic, armed service deserter who's so grossly unqualified he's technically eligilble for disability allowances for now, to become not only the President of The United States, but allow their representatives in congress to imbue him with "special" powers that enable him to attack any country he so chooses and basically treat his station as a birthright that he shall do with what he pleases? (shorter version: finding the value in money is someplace to run and hide when reality dissolves.


GravatarWas that a sulfur egg bomb that just walked in?

Excuse me while I leave the room.


GravatarVIcki, I like art glass well enough, though salt-glazed classic Jugtown ware is more my style.
It's true value to me would be knowing it was from you.


GravatarEchidne, I believe most women do cover their faces in public in Saudi Arabia. They probably also don't like their photos taken, so that's why you wouldn't find too many images.


Gravatardouble standard bearer | 10.07.06 - 8:03 am | #

Yes, and Clinton got a blow job.

Do yourself (and us) a favor: go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw. Better yet: let your boyfriend Mark Foley and his willing accomplice Dennis Hastert do it.


Gravatarhttp://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/...hives/ a2531.htm

Foley has been behaving like this since 1995. Hope that answers that little squirrel rep from GA's questions.....

Warning: more of Foleys lurid emails at above link.


GravatarIt's true value to me would be knowing it was from you.


You, like JeffCO, and Barndog, and Gomez and a few others, are so sweet. It's the kindness and thoughtfulness that touches me.


Gravatarhow true
even fox isn't trying to blame Democrats but CNN repeats Newts lies with no response


GravatarGoing out. Enjoy the Saturday.


GravatarJoe Barton is a beady-eyed lying pipsqueak who double-crossed supporters of legislation for research into autism. Social conditions are significantly different for gay people and lesbians now that in the 1980's. I have a current study of sexual predation of minors from the Journal Pediatrics to share if anybody wants it.


Gravatarres,

Can I ask a question? Curios about Snow. He's so funny on the blog...what's he like?

And Athenae is a gem in every way, shape and form.


GravatarWhen a GOP Congressman preys on the underage, and the GOP leadership covers it up, clearly, the most important question to be asking is: how guilty are the Democrats?

....

Actually, this whole affair is starting to restore a little faith in me that there are some things the GOP cannot, in fact, spin away.


GravatarHey Nim, are you up? Can I call you?


GravatarActually Hastert waited to release the emails from Foley so he could accuse Dems of acting politically.

Dallas Morning News has printed an op ed piece on Fox News leaning to the right. love it.


GravatarAfter I make some coffee, of course.


GravatarDitto on what plantsman said, Toprol is a more advanced treatment and less side effects than cumadin(sp?)


Gravatar Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 7:51 am | #

what has happened is a local story has been seized upon by both sides who wish you furter a 'clash of civlizations', its an excuse for the right wing press and blogs to bash Muslims while on the other side there are these middle age Muslim men lining up to defend the right for their women to wear the niqab and inbetween are the Musilm women who are largely being ignored.

On this morning BBC Four's Today programme they interviewed a young Muslim lady who chose to wore the veil and she was very articulate and set out her position verywell, i was half dozing so I can't remeber what she said.

you can listen to their interview with Jack Straw here and also you can listen to Today's programme for the next 7 days, well worth doing.


GravatarDitto on the coffee. Down stairs to the grinder I go. B R B.


GravatarVicki,

Snow did not make it last night. I assume his flight was delayed. I had an email from him late, though, and he is here. I think we will see him tonight.


GravatarIt's October, and I'm loving the surprise.

Not what Karl had in mind, but still--


GravatarMorning all.


GravatarVicki-

I'm up, but Jen is still in bed. Can you hold off just a little while? She was exhausted yesterday, I want her to catch up on her sleep..


Gravatarheh you can read the letters sent into the Guardian about the veil issue here and here


GravatarNim, Yes, of course I can. I'll wait until this afternoon or so.

Why so tired? Work stress getting to her?


GravatarDoes Jack Straw not feel uneasy with a woman sitting in front of him with exposed cleavage?
Hasan Beg
Kirkcaldy

I'm writing to express my concern about the wearing of the kilt by certain extremist Scots. In the first place, it clearly marks them out as separate from our society. Second, I feel threatened by the thought of what might be underneath.
Richard Jones
Swansea

When will Mr Straw lift the veil of mendacity and lies over Iraq?
Alessandra Asteriti
Edinburgh

Is this the same Mr Straw who as foreign secretary oversaw the invasion of a secular Middle Eastern state transforming it into a cauldron of Islamist extremism?
Adam Swain
Nottingham


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ letter...1889687,00.html


GravatarRes, too bad about Snow! He'll be there - he was so looking forward to it!


GravatarOk, it's a work day here. Wish me and my guy a happy 11th anniversary.
The love of a good man has helped me stand 'the slings and arrows..'
Ya'll keep up the good work.


GravatarVicki-

Not sure, but probably. We did get your message yesterday though, but it was kind of late. So no, we're not giving you the cold shoulder, just were not watching the voicemail yesterday ^_^


GravatarNim, it's too close to the election for spin unless something bad happens.

'The watchword is accountability. It goes without saying that Foley should get all the professional help he needs for problems that he says stem from alcoholism and childhood sexual abuse. But he also must be held responsible for his own abuse: that of his office and the young pages.'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...6100601374.html

Abuse of office. Not getting much play is it?


GravatarSounds like the ol' blow off to me, Vicki. Heard it before.

I say go up and beat the door down. If you'd like, I'll drop off the rusty chainsaw to make that ease of entry thing a snap!!


GravatarDid anyone find Snow who was lost in NY last night?


GravatarNot sure, but probably.

Sometimes, she's highly intelligent in an Olmstead way, which means tha some of us are given to being high strung. Sometimes.

Me, I'm the stupid, laid back one.


GravatarThat's it Vicki! Wear a veil to your interview, they'll never notice your eye and cigarette burn!


GravatarStraw words 'sparked veil attack'

A leading Muslim has blamed Jack Straw's comments for an attack in which a woman's veil was torn from her face.

The woman was attacked in Liverpool by a man shouting racist abuse, the day after the former foreign secretary criticised veils that cover the face.

Mohammed Akbar Ali, ex-chair of the Liverpool Islamic Institute, said Mr Straw should have known better.

Merseyside Police, who say the attack was a hate crime, met Muslim leaders on Saturday to hear their concerns.

Mr Akbar Ali, who was involved in the campaign to free Liverpool hostage Ken Bigley in Iraq, said the attack was no coincidence.


GravatarMr Bill, best wishes to you and your 5( year old. heh


GravatarDid anyone find Snow who was lost in NY last night?


He was lost in a blizzard. One flake among many, you know?

/Sorry, I have a terrible habit with the Snow jokes. It all goes back to krsaz, who one time said to Snow when Snow said, "Is it hot in here or is it me?"

krsaz says, "Oh oh, you're melting."

STILL cracks me up. I mean gut laughing cracks me up.


GravatarBarndog, we can't go and storm their house! They have more animals than a pet store. Our legs will get chewed off.


GravatarUh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis


GravatarFear my army of lethargic goofus animals ^_^


GravatarI have 2 dogs that weigh over 200# between them. They're sure to provide some influence.


GravatarQL,

I had an email from him about midnight. Have not talked to him yet, though. He's here.


Gravatari think it is time that the word reporting gets defined for what the teevee does: one-sided opinion

if this is done long enough and hard-hitting enough, using REAL media like the WAPO, NYT and Chicago Tribune as examples where reporting actually attempts to uncover FACTS, maybe, just maybe, the sheep will begin to realize that teevee news is fake

it would be in those big papers interest as they have lost readership over the decades to teevee that is bland and meaningless - it is time for a war between media


GravatarLOL: Billmon.


GravatarI just went over to my local paper's wen site to see what gargae they are spewing today --The Santa Rosa Press Democrat --where failed journalists and the children of old families who couldn't get work else where spend their time lying to the public

We've started calling it the Healdsburg Unimpressed Republican
they are taking the tact that all politicians are bad so we might as well keep Republicans in power

they are responsible for the creepy DS who bungled the Karr case --they trashed his opponent repeatedly and unfairly and now can't understand why there is such a loser in office


GravatarLOL: Billmon.
res ipsa loquitur




GravatarBillmon is having a very active retirement.


GravatarBillmon is having a very active retirement.


GravatarSoros - Behind every woodpile


GravatarI remain i love with Billmon!!!!!


GravatarFear my army of lethargic goofus animals ^_^



And then there's Buddy, the arthritic. Barndog, you might bond with Buddy!


Gravatar*in


Gravatarres,
Is Atrios joinin us tonigh?


GravatarI'm writing to express my concern about the wearing of the kilt by certain extremist Scots. In the first place, it clearly marks them out as separate from our society. Second, I feel threatened by the thought of what might be underneath.


Morning, folks! Good times in NYC last night, eh?


GravatarLOL: Billmon.
res ipsa loquitur




So that's where that came from! I saw it floating around the Internets last night!


GravatarMolly, Atrios is going to Seattle.


GravatarSoros - Behind every woodpile
Loyal Republican


Republicans - Behind every page.


GravatarYou feel better, but is your carbon offset just hot air?

Green consumers and businesses who want to neutralise their carbon emissions face being ripped off by unscrupulous operators who exploit the growing market in carbon offset schemes, a Guardian investigation has revealed.

The surge in interest in such schemes, which invest millions of pounds in forestry and clean energy projects in the developing world, has created a lucrative market in carbon, which is unregulated and subject to little scrutiny. Campaigners and analysts say independent standards are urgently needed to protect consumers and to ensure the promised carbon savings are delivered. Francis Sullivan, a carbon offset expert who led attempts by banking group HSBC to neutralise its emissions, said: "There will be individuals and companies out there who think they're doing the right thing but they're not. I am sure that people are buying offsets in this unregulated market that are not credible. I am sure there are people buying nothing more than hot air."


GravatarI'm writing to express my concern about the wearing of the kilt



makes the Crocodile Dundee gender check easier


GravatarMolly, Atrios is going to Seattle.

Oh, boo. We'll be there.


GravatarMolly Ivors,

I don't know. I never heard from him.


GravatarHaniya: We will not recognise Israel

The Palestinian prime minister has vowed that Hamas will not be edged out of power or recognise Israel.

Ismail Haniya, the prime minister and Hamas leader, made the comments at a rally of tens of thousands of banner-waving supporters on Friday.

He told the crowd in a packed football stadium: "We will not recognise Israel, we will not recognise Israel, we will not recognise Israel."

He ruled out a proposal by members of his own Hamas movement to form a new government of technocrats as a way of winning international support and ending a seven-month aid freeze.

He said: "There are new scenarios, such as an emergency government, a technocrat government, or early elections.


GravatarOh, boo. We'll be there.
Molly Ivors


I would have gone if I could have...the cards weren't lining up for me this Summer, though.

Things are fine, now.

How's Rosie? A little better?


GravatarAbuse of office. Not getting much play is it?


right, the idiots (so called reporters) are all panty-sniffing for a sexual inpropriety story - which there may be, but the point is fairly clear that he abused his office and the page program


GravatarI don't know what, if anything, Aravosis has, but if it's something I hope he just goes fucking nuclear with it.


GravatarUh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
res ipsa loquitur


He should call hastert's office today. I'm sure they're in there.


Gravatarreally excellent - Robert Fisk: "The Conquest of the Middle East"


GravatarRosie got through a whole night without vomiting, which we take to be a good sign. But grandma doesn't want to see us, so we're driving straight back.

What are folks doing before dinner?


GravatarThe die is cast [Rich Lowry]

This week was the week for Republicans to get on a stronger footing on the Foley scandal


You're a sick, twisted little man, Lowry. First raping; now footing and fisting. Give your evil mind a rest, will ya?


GravatarUh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis


A rather Senior member of congress? Dare we speculate? I don't want to do the wrong thing here...


GravatarMolly Ivors,

I think QL is taking some folks, including Smokes, on a mini-tour before. Feral is going to the Met today. I am going to call SNow in a bit and see what he is up to.


GravatarHe should call hastert's office today. I'm sure they're in there.
Virginia


Nah, let's not bury it in the middle of a three day weekend. Much rather let the rumor spread throughout the internet and think about the target sweating bullets about when it is going to come out.

Heehee.


GravatarUh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
res ipsa loquitur

He should call hastert's office today. I'm sure they're in there.
Virginia


They haven't left for a week, I'm sure. I'll bet they smell bad, haven't showered, have been living off of delivered food and the stash of bourbon under the desk, with only quick snatches of Ambien-induced sleep on the receprion room couch.


GravatarCSpan showed a political ad accusing menendez of being the next [criminal's name] in NJ then kean comes on smirking, I approved this ad. Works for who?


GravatarSoros - Behind every woodpile

wingnuts ignore the fact that their RUpert Murdoch has WAYYY more power than Soros - and Murdoch lives in australia - i am not sure he is an american citizen, but he owns a HUGE broadcasting empire in america...george soros is an american citizen and he DOESN'T own as huge a media empire as Murdoch

but winguts are too stupid to care to know - they like to blamestorm


Gravatarres,
we're thinking of leaving here noonish, so we'll hit the city at 4 or so. Drinks before?


GravatarMan, there was a fabulous diary - very long - posted at kos this week on Dick DeVos' wife, Betsy. A must read (although I knew most of it because I've followed her political career here).

She's very Christian, very controversial, and very divisive. So, interestingly enough, the DeVos campaign has completely gagged her. I was wondering about that. Why we haven't heard a peep from a woman who told the masses that workers in the State of Michigan make "too much." Or the woman who, at the behest of Karl Rove, launched the anti-gay marriage campaign in 2004.

I'll see if I can't find it for Barndog and some of the other Michigan folks.


GravatarThey haven't left for a week, I'm sure.
Molly


To the mattresses!


Gravatarthe BBC are airing a new version of Robin Hood tonight.


GravatarUh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis

A rather Senior member of congress? Dare we speculate?


You know what's missing here: the Senate.


GravatarMolly Ivors,

Yeah, I can meet ya'll. Where are you thinking? Or do you want to meet chez res? I can corral people up here if it's easier.


GravatarI was thinking yesterday that if I were a page who had contact with a creepy congressperson, the last person I'd tell would be Denny Haster and his kiddie porn hotline.


Gravatar'right, the idiots (so called reporters) are all panty-sniffing for a sexual inpropriety story - which there may be, but the point is fairly clear that he abused his office and the page program
mogwai'

Issues, tissues.


GravatarSoros - Behind every woodpile

Soros financed last night. He's financing tonight's dinner and tomorrow's picnic, too. He gave me a huge honorarium for organizing this thing, too.


GravatarI love Grteg Palast. But to be honest, I thought he would have hair.


GravatarHere it is:

(MI-Gov) Doctrine of Dick DeVos: Wife Betsy DeVos Deliberately Gagged

If you're interested in the Michigan Gubernatorial Race, this is a good article for you. If not,


GravatarMolly, I think Greg Palast is hot without the hair.


GravatarRe Lowry,

During law school I was in a cab with a classmate and saw Lowry on the street. I said, "Hey, there's Rich Lowry, another one of the baby-faced facists of the Nat'l Review." My friend opened the window and yelled, "Hey, Rich Lowry!" LOwry looks up and smiles. He's so pleased someone has recognized him that his tiny little Republican penis is in the air. Then my friend yells, "You fucking putz!"

Okay, so it was juvenile. But we laughed all afternoon.


GravatarFoley incident stirs up a stereotype about gay men

Some conservatives have reacted to former Rep. Mark Foley's sexual messages to teenage boys and announcement he is gay by suggesting homosexuals are more likely to molest children, a link that psychiatric groups say has no basis in fact.

Yet the stereotype seems to be sticking, repeated in the conservative and mainstream media. A columnist for the Wall Street Journal suggested that homosexuality exists on a continuum stretching from "just another gay guy" to "a compulsive, predatory sex offender."

Jay Leno recently quipped that GOP now stands for "Gay Old Pedophile," and Ben Stein wrote in the American Spectator that "I hope it won't come as a surprise to anyone that a big part of male homosexual behavior is interest in young boys. (Take a look at anyone renting 'Endless Summer' next time you are at the video store.)"

But researchers say that the data cited to back up such stereotypes is flimsy, exaggerated and sometimes made up.


GravatarPalast will always be a hero to me for the work he did in 2000 on the stolen election. People were calling him batshit nuts, all that, yet he stood by his work, and later, he was proved right.


GravatarUh-oh: Round Two imminent? Aravosis
res ipsa loquitur


Ray Lahood (R-OH, soon to be D-OH) made it pretty clear last Monday on CNN that there were others. I believe C&L has the video.

Josh Marshall has been dropping strong hints that the former House Clerk, Jeff Trandahl, is gay and left that job in relation to Foley. (He's not talking, and has lawyered up.) And now Scott Palmer (Hastert's gay staffer?) is on the hot seat.

Pass the popcorn.


Gravatar Veiled threats?


Gravatarthat's the idea ... sell some crap about putting people back to work or expound on the way the area has lost jobs and population (because of the Republican mess we're subjected to to begin with) then if you can cheat your way into office make everyone sell amway while you destroy the unions and promote sub-level pay standards. (oh and invite all the cronies you feel indebted to to screw your states citizens in any way they deem fitting) (is there any public service or utility they havent deregulated completely yet? Getting industry and employment on the proper footing to De Vos means allowing phoney companies to pretend to start in Michigan then go bankrupt while giving the CEO and director board bonus's.


GravatarOkay, so it was juvenile. But we laughed all afternoon.




Res, that's a cool story. I like the addition of the tiny penis sproinging in the air.


GravatarI was thinking yesterday that if I were a page who had contact with a creepy congressperson, the last person I'd tell would be Denny Haster and his kiddie porn hotline.
Molly Ivors


They will be waterboarded and shipped to Gitmo, or vice versa.


GravatarIt's not working, CNN;

'Are you satisfied with the way Republicans are handling the Foley-congressional page scandal?

Yes 21% 26081 votes

No 79% 95474 votes
Total: 121555 votes '

their own poll.


GravatarAnd now Scott Palmer (Hastert's gay staffer?) is on the hot seat.



Who is the senior level congressman, then? Would it be irresponsible to speculate?

I have my ideas.


Gravatar"Hey, Rich Lowry!" LOwry looks up and smiles. He's so pleased someone has recognized him that his tiny little Republican penis is in the air. Then my friend yells, "You fucking putz!"

I think he needs to hear that sort of thing more often.


Gravataror boni (plural?


GravatarIt's a stupid argument, anyway: a Republican congressman whores after teenage pages, and it's Democrats fault? Yea, I know, par for the course, but that's really, really stretching it.


GravatarJay Leno recently quipped that GOP now stands for "Gay Old Pedophile,"

Jay Leno is a fucking moron.

The only thing funny about the gay angle in this thing is that the party that ran on fear of gay sex is now The Party of Gay Sex.™ Fuck 'em all.


GravatarI'll be back in a few ~ keep my seat warm.


GravatarVicki,

When we saw him I felt like Eric Stratton in "Animal House:" "What's required here is a really stupid and futile gesture on somebody's part..."

Sometimes stupid and futile are very funny.


GravatarI'll bet it's David Dreier. But doesn't everyone already know he's gay? The wingnuts might not, and their couls be a power/age thing, as there is in Foley's case.


GravatarMolly Ivors,

Do you have my digits?


GravatarMy Secret IMs With 'The Cowboy'

In the wake of the Foley sex scandal, Mark Morford reveals his chat with a "special" GOP friend

Cowby43 (8:34:20 PM): I like Libruls

WrtrGuy: (...)

Cwboy43 (8:34:50 PM): Is this thing on? Hello? I like Libruls. Hee hee hee OMG I like libruls and the weird thingz U do ha ha ha just like Mark Foley. wOOt!

WrtrGuy (8:35:10 PM): What? Who is this? How did you get this handle?

Cwboy43 (8:35:42 PM): I do. I like em. Libruls. can't help myselff. Dunt tell anyone. Things R gong badly here. No one to talk to. No one 2 ease my anxiety, you know?


Continues...


GravatarThe big debate


Gravatar'Getting industry and employment on the proper footing to De Vos means allowing phoney companies to pretend to start in Michigan then go bankrupt while giving the CEO and director board bonus's.
Tom Terrific '

Our incumbent is working to remove Federal supervision of ARkansas' pig farms. Which drain into TX. His own district. ????'s money is paying for this.

Moe, it's amazing how misinformed most people are about sexual predators, I think they're all listening to Focus on Family. Which would have you locking up anyone under 30.


GravatarIt's not David Dreier
he's member of the self loathing wing of the Republican lincoln logs
but I doubt if he is a pederast

i'm hoping it's some bible belter


GravatarWho is the senior level congressman, then? Would it be irresponsible to speculate?

I have my ideas.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I haven't put much thought in it. I doubt it's Dreier - he's out, with a partner.


Gravatarres,
email me your ##s and I'll prgram them into my phone.


Gravatarres, there's nothing funny about it. The reason Mark Foley was in the closet? 'Cause in the GOP, you must be. That this contributed to his fantasies running out of control is not a question to me.


Gravatarplantsman,

You just said it exactly right.


GravatarBen Stein --this is the guy who thinks Nixon was a great leader
he likes and respects Patty O'Bigot Buchanan

the media hauls him out when they want to float the most outrageous statements


GravatarOkay, to the showers.

The only thing I've committed to do today is clean my crib, but first, I must clean myself.


Gravatar Vexed question of the veil divides town gripped by racial suspicion

Jack Straw has found allies in some of the most unlikely parts of Lancashire by asking if his female constituents will remove niqab, not least the residents of Fishwick Parade, on Preston's Callon estate.

"Of course he's right," said Steve, one of the many 16-year-old white youths who while away their hours here racing bikes up to the pub and back. "It does make you wonder what they've all got to hide."

The niqab is a common sight here, a few hundred yards from the Fishwick district, home to a large proportion of Preston's Indian and Pakistani Muslim community, which makes up 8.6 per cent of the population

Steve's opinion on the issue moved seamlessly into a diatribe on how those of ethnic extraction ought to "behave" in "our country". He is perhaps not the kind of backer Mr Straw will welcome. But his words reveal the kind of racial suspicions which, statistically, make Preston one of the most racially divided places in Britain and which may have prompted Mr Straw to tackle such an issue now.


GravatarNYMary,

Done.

plantsman,

I am saying, "They are reaping what they sowed" not that it's right.


GravatarI want to kill Comcast. It keeps closing down on me. Haven't had any fresh e-mail in over 12 hours - and that pisses me off, too - because it means that my usual updates and things aren't coming thru. And so I wonder if what I'm sending is getting out.

Maybe it's my turn to be watched by the NSA.


GravatarMolly Ivors,

Where are you guys gonna park? Down there? Just lemme know where you're gonna be and I'll come meet you, provided you're virus- and vomit-free.


Gravatarres, gotcha!


Gravatar Police to toughen approach to Islamic extremists

Scotland Yard are to clamp down on Islamist extremists demonstrating in London following a series of complaints that radicals are being allowed to break the law, and are misrepresenting the views of the Muslim community.

The police are to use tactics deployed against crime bosses and suspected terrorists to target individuals who have called for the execution of critics of Islam and have been accused of stirring up racial hatred.

A team of specialist lawyers is also to be created to help the police prosecute radicals, under a proposal by the country's most senior Muslim police chief.

The new zero-tolerance approach follows a series of demonstrations in which Islamic extremists were accused of inciting racial hatred. Last month a well-known Islamist radical reportedly said during a protest outside Westminster Cathedral that Pope Benedict XVI should face "capital punishment" for insulting Islam.


GravatarAs Polly Klaas dad stopped Keith to remind him last night: they very nearly got away with this. Were within hours of getting away with it.

Of course there are others. They're addicted to power, to what power brings. It brings money, of course, but sex too.

Lots of others.


GravatarI want to kill Comcast. Big Ditto. I also hate how they never advertise the actual price for a service, only the 3-month come-on price.


GravatarAs Polly Klaas dad stopped Keith to remind him last night: they very nearly got away with this. Were within hours of getting away with it.

How so? (I was away, so I have missed some key components of this story.)


GravatarIf Foley hadn't resigned before the recess began, this would have been muffled.


GravatarVicki..... you need a hand - or a pair of hands in your effort?


GravatarHastert is fat.


GravatarThey've turned the corner! (Again!)
Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.


GravatarNice tidbit from Josh's:

Earthquake. The Cook Political Report changes its ratings in 14 House races--downgrading GOP chances in every one. Election Central has the rundown.

-- TPM Reader DK


GravatarVicki, did you know you can get your email from the comcast.net site? Or is that what you are trying to do?


GravatarComment in Dallas Morning News that about 60% of sexual offenders report that they were abused as children. When asked to submit to polygraph half then admit it isn't true. Just sayin.


GravatarBuenas dias, amigos...

Balloon fiesta begins today; howwever the skes are overcast, and scattered showers are forecast for the whole weekend...

oh, and Bill Moyers has something say about all this fucking GOPuke corruption. Brief but bracing: you read!
.


GravatarEarthquake. The Cook Political Report changes its ratings in 14 House races--downgrading GOP chances in every one. Election Central has the rundown.


That seems more like a tectonic plate shift to me...


GravatarJournalists killed in Afghanistan

Two German journalists have been shot dead by unidentified attackers in northern Afghanistan in an overnight attack, Afghan police say.

The two, a man and a woman, were killed while travelling from Baghlan province to the central province of Bamiyan, officials told Reuters news agency.

They were apparently in the country working on a documentary.

Varying reports say they were either killed in their tent or in a vehicle in the early hours of Saturday.

"Unidentified insurgents sprayed their vehicle with bullets," Baghlan's security chief, Gen Azim Hashimi, was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying.

There was no word about the fate of their driver.


GravatarI suppose it has been noted now that, whatever the GOP is trying, it doesn't seem to be working.


GravatarNTodd,
No pics (of me) on internets, please.


GravatarSCott Palmer chief of staff to Hastert admits to meeting with Foley a year ago on this issue

wapo

and Palmer rooms with Hastert during session --what no pillow talk

Hastert knew and did nothing to keep the $750k and the safe seat


GravatarLinkee no workee, Woody.


Gravatar Pediatrics reports that 82% of men who abused male minors were involved in a heterosexual relationship with the child's mother, grandmother, or another close female relative.


GravatarKen Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.
res ipsa loquitur


Except Denny didn't accept responsibility. He said "we" accept responsibility.

I think he meant the mouse in his pocket.

These things are noticed, and not just by pundits who promptly ignore it.


GravatarKen Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.

Mehlman's just relieved that he doesn't have to come out from behind his grandma's furs in the armoire.


GravatarComment in Dallas Morning News that about 60% of sexual offenders report that they were abused as children. When asked to submit to polygraph half then admit it isn't true. Just sayin.
Ruth, revolted


Yeah, even Peter King (R, soon to be D, NY) threw cold water on the "I'm an alcoholic" bullshit, and everyone's calling Foley out on the Clergy Abuse crap.

Republicans lie. Water is wet. Sky is blue.


GravatarFourteen dead in northern Iraq blast

At least fourteen people have died after a suicide car bomber hit an Iraqi army checkpoint in the northern Iraqi town of Tal Afar, police said.

Colonel Abdel-Karim al-Jubouri, Mosul's police chief, said the attack took place at a checkpoint at around 8.45am local time (0545 GMT) in Tal Afar, about 420 kilometres northwest of Baghdad.

The attacker ploughed a truck laden with explosives into the wall of a house used as a lookout by soldiers in the Al-Salam district of the town, the AFP news agency reported.

Four soldiers and 10 civilians were killed in the attack, while at least 13 more people were wounded, police said.


GravatarHastert is fat.
NTodd4


Only in comparison to a human.


GravatarNTodd,
No pics (of me) on internets, please.
res ipsa loquitur


DELETE RES'S FUCKING ACCOUNT, NTODD!


GravatarExcept Denny didn't accept responsibility. He said "we" accept responsibility.

I think he meant the mouse in his pocket.


Nah, it was probably the Victorian royal "we".

I think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.


GravatarWGG - small typo in your link; fixed, I hope.


Gravatarres

as it happens, only Uncle Smokes wants to walk around Manhattan today, so let me know where you and molly are hooking up, and we'll join youse.


GravatarLumpy: "Do I hafta wear this page outfit? I'm gettin' too old for this shit."

Chimpy: "Shoot! It makes yuh look lak a kid agin'. C'mon ovah heah an' give me an oral message."

Lumpy: "How 'bout a written message? Your pencil dick is the perfect tool."


GravatarMaybe it's my turn to be watched by the NSA.
Vicki


According to the schedule, you're next Tuesday.

Wear something frilly.


GravatarNo pics (of me) on internets, please.

That will cost you!


GravatarKen Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.

"accepted responsibility" = we can ignore this now


GravatarNot to be a nattering naybob of negativism, but the polls over at Josh's paint gloomy pictures in VA and CT: Ned's down by ten or even twenty points according to Zogby and Rasmussen (I am astounded by this) and Webb's down by eleven.

I recognize it's very tough to knock off an incumbent senator, but Ned down by twenty? Is this believable? And I thought Webb was within four or five...
Aauugghh!


GravatarBlair promises 'more for troops'

British forces in Afghanistan will be provided with whatever resources they need, the prime minister has said.

Addressing military personnel on the fifth anniversary of operations in the country, Tony Blair pledged "every support and every protection".

He said this included providing more armoured vehicles and more helicopters.

Mr Blair praised the courage displayed during a "very tough" operation and acknowledged it was still "lawless" in the south where most troops were based.


GravatarHow so? (I was away, so I have missed some key components of this story.)
res ipsa loquitur | 10.07.06 - 9:05 am | #

If Foley hadn't resigned before the recess began, this would have been muffled.
plantsman, lowercase


Basically, plantsman answered your question. But if this had been held just a little longer, Foley would have been reelected, the Republicans would be scattered to the four winds for their campaigns, and nothing, nothing would have been done.


GravatarHICA!
.


GravatarI think he needs to hear that sort of thing more often.
Molly Ivors - 8:53 am


they all do, but if you tell it to the fucking vice-prez, they'll arrest you...never mind that you're even polite and un-profane...

what they need to hear is galesof laughter whenever they appear in public; what the need to hear is hots of derision, and piles of obloquy...everybody and anybody who encounters the motherfuckers needs to diss the fuckers into oblivion...

what kind of fucking country is it when you cant tell the fascist fuckers to go fuck themselves???
./


GravatarWoody's link requires an "m" to be inserted at the end in the address bar to work properly.


GravatarThey've turned the corner! (Again!)
Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he believed that Republicans turned a corner when Mr. Hastert accepted responsibility for the mishandling of the page scandal after days of being pressed to take action by restive Republicans.
res ipsa loquitur


OK, let's see if I've got this.

Republicans have turned a corner.

Denny is staying the course.

Now, who's adapting to win?


GravatarI think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.

And the occasional snack cake, for dipping.


GravatarNah, it was probably the Victorian royal "we".

I think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.
SteveNS


"L'etat, c'est Denny?" I think he meant "we" as in "GOP Leadership." Which means he won't take responsibility himself.

That kind of weasely "stepping up without really stepping up" is noticed, especially in the "heartland." It just reinforces the conviction that the party in charge, doesn't need to be in charge anymore.


Gravatarres must be really hot.


Gravataroh, and Bill Moyers has something say about all this fucking GOPuke corruption. Brief but bracing: you read!


i love Bill Moyers, but he doesn't mention that the american people have become soo complacent and materialistic that i believe there is no way but down politically...as someone famous once said (and i paraphrase) "the death of democracy comes with the complacency of it's people"

oh and i would have come to NY to meet with some of you fine folks, but i have been travelling soo much that i need this weekend at home


GravatarMehlman's just relieved that he doesn't have to come out from behind his grandma's furs in the armoire.


Good God!


GravatarThat kind of weasely "stepping up without really stepping up" is noticed, especially in the "heartland." It just reinforces the conviction that the party in charge, doesn't need to be in charge anymore.
Rmj


Jeez, do I ever hope you're right.


GravatarOh, yeah: sorry 'bout de bad linkee; thanks virginny!!!
oh, and Bill Moyers has something say about all this fucking GOPuke corruption. Brief but bracing: you read!


GravatarJosh:

Did I say earthquake?

Here's another sign of the tectonic shift.

The NRCC dropped $7.8 million yesterday into 30 House districts.

But here's the thing. It's not just the size of the expenditure. Of the 30 districts in question, 27 are currently held by the GOP.

They're playing defense. But as the GOP playbook says, the best defense is a strong offense, so 98% of the $7.8 million is going to attacking the Democratic opponents.


GravatarAlex Wittless
STudds but not mention of PHil CRane
stupid bitch


GravatarAnd the occasional snack cake, for dipping.

Oh, YUCK!


Gravatar Ned down by twenty? Is this believable?

Yes, it's quite simple, really. Lieberman is pulling the GOP vote. Schlessinger was at like 4% last time I looked.

Lieberman is a Republican.


GravatarI think he only carries jars of mayonnaise in his pockets.

And the occasional snack cake, for dipping.



Poor L'il Debbie!!!


Gravatarres must be really hot.

No. Just really paranoid.


GravatarTroll sentenced to jail in England!

"She said: "He was isolated and living in a fantasy world, spending hours on his computer in his room where his persona could be as he made it, good or bad.""

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/ ...1889311,00.html


GravatarAnd the occasional snack cake, for dipping.
Molly Ivors


HE calls them "snack" cakes. To you and I, they're just cakes.


GravatarAlex Wittless
STudds but not mention of PHil CRane
stupid bitch


Not Phil Crane, but his brother Dan. Who was also a Republican, but you wouldn't know that from the CNN story.


GravatarGilliard thinks what we know so far about Foley is the tip of the iceberg, and worse is coming.


GravatarAnd the occasional snack cake, for dipping.
Molly Ivors




You are very, very bad.


GravatarNed's down by ten or even twenty points according to Zogby and Rasmussen (I am astounded by this)

ned won the Dem primary, only registered dems could vote...in the real election, republicans all got the fax to vote for joe - this is why you see those numbers


GravatarChirac's town hall wine collection to go under the hammer

He is partial to Corona beer and a steaming plate of tête de veau. But the sophisticated tastes of the famously indulgent French president Jacques Chirac will be available for all to sample later this month when around £400,000 of wine from his cellar at Paris town hall will be auctioned.

More than 4,000 bottles will go under the hammer, most dating back to Mr Chirac's time as mayor of Paris when the best "grands crus" were served at lavish receptions for international dignitaries and film stars. Mr Chirac was mayor from 1977 to 1995, a period noted for corruption scandals, but also for the vast quantity of food and drink imbibed at taxpayers' expense. In 2002 an auditor's report leaked to the press found that Mr Chirac and his wife, Bernadette, once spent £170,000 on food in one year. Their total personal food bill for one eight-year period was £1.4m.


Gravatarres must be really hot.
Moe Szyslak

No. Just really paranoid.
res ipsa loquitur


(1) Living in a police state will do that to ya.

(2) I've read your words. Moe is right.


GravatarI don't think Mehlman will be well received in Narnia by anyone but the White Witch, who coincidentally was the Borg Queen.


GravatarNo. Just really paranoid.


I don't like my pics being posted on the Internets, either, inless I can pick and choose.

When we met in Michigan, I posted a pic, but because pie felt much the same way, she turned around to talk to Filkertom so as not to be seen in the photo.

And me? Heh. I had the camera, so no way in hell was I exposed.


GravatarIf and when HoJo wins the elections, the fucking Dems better put his office in a broom closet, and pull his seniority.

Hey Molly! Did you get the Robert Pollard/Tommy Keene disc? It's fab!


GravatarYes, it's quite simple, really. Lieberman is pulling the GOP vote. Schlessinger was at like 4% last time I looked.

McStain/Loserman, '08...

mark my words: the 'centrist' ticket
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GravatarOh, YUCK!

I did not think it was possible to gross you out.

Meet for a drink 4-4:30?


GravatarI'm gonna call Snow. Back directly...


GravatarWe've had abortions, say 5,000 Americans as crucial vote nears

More than 5,000 women from across the United States have revealed that they have had abortions, in advance of a crucial vote next month that could determine whether terminations remain legal across the country.

The list, published next week in the feminist magazine Ms, includes its co-founder Gloria Steinem, the actor Kathy Najimy and comedian Carol Leifer. But most of the names are of ordinary women who have joined the petition out of fear that the tide is turning against legal abortions in America.

South Dakota votes on November 7 on whether to overturn a state law banning virtually all abortions, including those undergone for reasons of rape, incest or a woman's health. Only abortions needed to prevent the woman's death are permitted under the law.


GravatarI don't think Mehlman will be well received in Narnia by anyone but the White Witch, who coincidentally was the Borg Queen.

I suspect when two queens meet there is always the potential for some friction.


GravatarMy picture is all over the internets.


GravatarMcStain/Loserman, '08...

mark my words: the 'centrist' ticket


If that dog hunts, I'm outta here.

I can't take another four years of this bullshit.

Ever notice how the economy sucks when Republicans are in office?


GravatarGilliard thinks what we know so far about Foley is the tip of the iceberg, and worse is coming.

When the Foley stuff first came out, there were lots of ominous statements flying around.


GravatarWe've had abortions, say 5,000 Americans as crucial vote nears

More than 5,000 women from across the United States have revealed that they have had abortions, in advance of a crucial vote next month that could determine whether terminations remain legal across the country.


Where do I sign?


GravatarMorning, rational people.


GravatarI'm sorry to hear this:

Buck O'Neil, the goodwill ambassador for the Negro Leagues who fell one vote shy of the Hall of Fame, died Friday night. He was 94.


He was the best thing about the Ken Burns' Baseball documentary.


GravatarHE calls them "snack" cakes. To you and I, they're just cakes.

Urinal cakes?


GravatarWhere do I sign?
Virginia


It was several months ago, but I signed. I suppose potential employers can use the list against us, eh?


GravatarWhere do I sign?

Ms. magazine, I do believe.


GravatarThe Navy Corpsman whose platoon murdered an Iraqi dude in cold blood, and made it look like he was an 'inusrgent'???

sentenced to 10 years, he will serve ONE in exchange for his testimony against the others...

no USer will serve life--or even 20-life, much less face the death penalty--for deeds done in Iraq against Iraqis...

so much for justice...
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GravatarGood morning, Diane C and Virginia!


Gravatar Ned down by twenty? Is this believable?

Yes, it's quite simple, really. Lieberman is pulling the GOP vote. Schlessinger was at like 4% last time I looked.

Lieberman is a Republican.
Vicki


I think 20 points is a bit much. Ten is believeable.

However, Lamont has apparently been putting together his GOTV, while Joe has been in an air war. That will narrow the gap. Also, any Republican who pulls a party-line lever will vote for Schlesinger, not Lieberman, ditto any Dem. And finally, Joe is fifth on the ballot, after two no-name candidates.

So in the end, it will be closer.


GravatarVirginia,
Try the Ms. Website.

https://msmagazine.com/donations/ ...n_c3_091906.asp


GravatarUrinal cakes?
NTodd4


The mayo might actually make them more palatable....


GravatarSo in the end, it will be closer.
NSA


Close ain't good enough!

Though I realize it's an uphill battle...


GravatarVicki, is the shiner fading a bit?


GravatarWhere do I sign?
Virginia


Here

And I did.


GravatarAlex Witt
whore fucking whore for the right
she is saying what the dems did about Gerry STudds matters now and never mentioning Phil Crane and what the Republicans did

what a stupid fucking republican whore


Gravatarsentenced to 10 years, he will serve ONE in exchange for his testimony against the others...

Wonder how much time the war deserters will get.


GravatarMornin, Vicki! I never heard how you got a black eye!


GravatarDiane C -

It's almost more like an abrasion now. It looks funky. I have some creams on it. I'm hoping by Monday it's just a bit red.

Was thinking of maybe going to Merle Norman this afternoon for some new make-up (i.e. concealer).


GravatarSo in the end, it will be closer.
NSA


old war saying: close doesn't count except in hand-grenades and horseshoes...
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Gravatar'HE calls them "snack" cakes. To you and I, they're just cakes.

Urinal cakes?
NTodd4 '

paddy cakes.


Gravatar(thanks, Molly!)


GravatarGilliard thinks what we know so far about Foley is the tip of the iceberg, and worse is coming.
Karin

When the Foley stuff first came out, there were lots of ominous statements flying around.
Molly Ivors


Yep.

It will be almost as fun to watch as the Republican Civil War after they lose the House.


GravatarHee, Greenwald says the Foley scandal is proof of intelligent design.


GravatarFucking cookies. (Sorry, Denny.)

Steve Simels (somebody buy him a drink for me) regrets the error.


GravatarAlex Witt's regular gig is weekend mornings, the ratings are very low. Thank heavens for small favors.


GravatarI never heard how you got a black eye!


Barndog hit me in the library with a candlestick!

No, just some stupid story, too embarrassing really. A friend whopped my in the face during an animated discussion. It was by accident, but she had a cigarette in her hand, so it burned me face a little under my right eye.

Reason 16,000,000 not to smoke: you might inadvertently clobber a friend. (I'm not the anti-smoking police, you guys...I'm just sayin', in this case.)


Gravatarpaddy cakes.

Ah, so it's James Baker in his pocket!

That makes a certain sort of sense.


GravatarI found Snow. His flight was cancelled. He is here, though, and traipsing around town.

Said he will meet us at 4 PM for a drinky.


GravatarSee, Vicki, I suggested you get creative with make-up this week-end!


GravatarI found Snow. His flight was cancelled.

I hate that when it happens - but only when I'm travelling "to" someplace.

On the way home, I never care. I take the free voucher and be done with it. I've gotten free vouchers because I've given up a seat or because my flight's been cancelled, plus upgraded to first class.

Sweet.

I love to travel. Wish I had more money to do so.


GravatarBuck O'Neil, the goodwill ambassador for the Negro Leagues who fell one vote shy of the Hall of Fame, died Friday night. He was 94.

Bob Edwards of NPR did a great interview with him, the audio is available somewhere on the internets, but I can't seem to locate it at the moment.


GravatarLieberman is Gaius Baltar.


GravatarWe know Snow had a ziploc with Disney characters on it rather than the regulation clear Ziploc. That's why they wouldn't let him on the plane.


GravatarSheesh. I see Crooks & Liars linked to me and I missed.

Damn NYC vacation! Makes me miss all the good things.


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GravatarJames Baker is very evil. He orchestrated the whole
anti-Dem disinformation campaign in FL in 2000.


Gravatarres - email me where


Gravatar Sheesh. I see Crooks & Liars linked to me and I missed.

nobody ever fucking links to me.


GravatarReason 16,000,000 not to smoke: you might inadvertently clobber a friend. (I'm not the anti-smoking police, you guys...I'm just sayin', in this case.)
Vicki, Who


Ouch!

I have reason number 16,000,001: I was sitting in the driveway in my car about to get out, had a lit cig in my hand, and tried to put my purse strap over my head. Knocked the fire off the cigarette, which fell onto the seat between my legs. I was wearing shorts, nd in my haste to get my butt up off the seat, slammed my foot to the floor; my big toenail caught on the brake pedal and I ripped that sucker right off. Ick.

*sigh* I'm a graceful little thing . . .


GravatarCSpan will talk about laws about online solicitation next. I'm there.

James Baker, not Bay Buchanananananon.


Gravatarres -

Am I invited?


.


Gravatarhappy rocktobersurprisefest burfday, FUX news. now eat shit, bark at the moon and die.

go As.


GravatarLieberman is Gaius Baltar.

Gaius is more Bush and an Iraq PM all rolled up in one; a loser getting his strings pulled--hard.


Gravatarnobody ever fucking links to me.

It's the digital. It smells funny.


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Gravatarnobody ever fucking links to me.

It's the digital. It smells funny.


.


Gravatar*sigh* I'm a graceful little thing . . .

I know *just* how that feels, being 'light on my feet' and clumsy and all....


GravatarQL,

Dunno where yet. Must figger out a place down there somewhere, I suppose.

Molly I.,

Where are you going to de-camp/park? Down there, I suppose?


GravatarGreat story, Virginia. My lit cigarette end fell off on my lap while I was driving and I barely escaped being hit by a truck when I swerved while brushing it off. [The trucker stopped to make sure I was okay, some kind of nice of him.]


GravatarRe pics: anybody who wants their pictures last night posted (or not, as the case may be), please lemme know. I'm only posting more abstractish/anon ones until I get permission.

(I'll ask folks tonight, too.)


GravatarThat wasn't a candlestick, Vicki.


GravatarJohn Aravosis

So here's my dilemma. Denny Hastert says that if I don't report the unsubstantiated allegations I've heard, I'm a criminal...

So what do I do? Do I publish unsubstantiated rumors about a GOP congressman and one of Denny Hastert's top aides? I don't want to, I don't think it's right, but Denny Hastert says he'll sic the FBI on me for hurting children if I don't. And he'll probably end up blaming Nancy Pelosi if my rumors turn out to be true and I didn't go public with them.


BRING. IT. ON.


Gravatar*sigh* I'm a graceful little thing . . .
Virginia


Grace is not one of my virtues, either, Virginia. Sez a woman who broke two feet/ankles at once falling down stairs.


Gravatar Sheesh. I see Crooks & Liars linked to me and I missed.

nobody ever fucking links to me.
NTodd4


In that case, I would demand to be un-registered.


GravatarIt's the digital. It smells funny.

And this is why you're not invited to drink at 4pm.


GravatarWow! The sun's not up yet, and the Moon is bee-you-tee-ful!!!!


GravatarWell, this Friday's news dump may not have been as spectacular as last week's, but it may be even more important: it looks like the investigation of Abramoff's White House visits is beginning to pay off.


GravatarSCT, I was thinking that because Lieberman is such a collaborator, but you're probably more on the mark.


GravatarThat wasn't a candlestick, Vicki.
Barndog, mandolinist




I stand corrected. Whatever it was, it was *certainly* hot.


GravatarSaid he will meet us at 4 PM for a drinky.
res ipsa loquitur


I am SOOOO envious.


GravatarBarry, Al - the dog - had a staph infected sore. He has been given a shot and antibiotics as well as a shaved spot and ointment. Much better now.

(See, I thought I had nothing to say but GO TIGERS)


GravatarI'm outtahere.


GravatarDWD,

GO TIGERS.

Wouldn't that be wild if they won today?

And I predicted Michigan by 10.


Gravatarspork_incident: It's the digital. It smells funny.

Howie Mandel was on Ferguson last night... said when he wants some space in a crowded elevator, he starts sniffin' his finger.
.


GravatarBarry, Al - the dog - had a staph infected sore. He has been given a shot and antibiotics as well as a shaved spot and ointment. Much better now.

(See, I thought I had nothing to say but GO TIGERS)
DWD- Fortified with Resolve


Glad to hear that DWD, we were wondering about him the other night.


GravatarUh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.


GravatarWhy does everybody but me get to travel? It's not fair. I have to stay home and paint the ramada.

NOT FAIR!!


GravatarMore Curly, please!


GravatarI am SOOOO envious.
Barry from AK in Chicago


. . . said "Where's Barry?" from Alaska . . .


Gravatarres,
Yeah, we'll find a lot. I sent you a suggestion around the corner from dinner.


GravatarUh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today


Congratulations.


GravatarYOU get the ramada.


GravatarUh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today


What, you got something goin' on, or something?


GravatarSCT, I was thinking that because Lieberman is such a collaborator, but you're probably more on the mark.
BlakNo1


He'd be more like one of the NCP who doesn't mind going out in the middle of the night and locking people up on order because "it's the right thing to do" and you'll be viewed as "a hero" later. Joe would be more like one of Baltar's butt sharks who likes working with the skin jobs 'cause they "keep order".


GravatarTo Alex Witt the most important question in the Foley affair is what did the Democrats do in 1983

saying nothing about Phil Crane
especially the washington post story saying they did cover it up

she is either the biggest moron in the world or a stupid, fucking republican whore


GravatarJust came back from Arkansas ... I was flipping through the TV channels and I came across yet another of those hosted news/commentary shows. I didn't recognize the host but I'm pretty sure it was on CNN ( I didn't stick around long enough to find out).

The guest was the Columbine father who originally was on with Katie. His spiel? That liberals are trying to censor him.

He must be memorizing the same press releases/talking points that Mighty Aphrodite has (althought in his case, I'd guess someone had to read them to him ... /snark).


GravatarDr. Barmpot-aren't you going to Canada to check out the bungalow?


Gravatar Wow! The sun's not up yet, and the Moon is bee-you-tee-ful!!!!
plantsman, lowercase


Yes it was - did you make your three wishes?
.


GravatarUh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today


Happy Get Married Day, Zap!

And may all the blessings in the world drop softly on you and your bride.


GravatarAnd this is why you're not invited to drink at 4pm.

Awww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.


.


GravatarAnd this is why you're not invited to drink at 4pm.

Awww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.


.


GravatarWell, this Friday's news dump may not have been as spectacular as last week's, but it may be even more important: it looks like the investigation of Abramoff's White House visits is beginning to pay off.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Au contraire, ma cherie. Susan Ralston's sudden resignation "after an internal ethics investigation, in order to not distract" is SOOOOOOO obviously a prelude to an indictment.

She's Rove's right hand, and this is a nasty wound in the days before the election. It will affect messaging and coordination, which as you can see, is already in a dither.

Tectonic, as Josh would say.


Gravatar . . . said "Where's Barry?" from Alaska . . .
Virginia


Barry is being a sad traveling panda.

Off to Toledo in just a bit, then Honolulu.

If I can't win the "farthest traveled" award, maybe I can win the "farthest away commented" award?


GravatarYes it was - did you make your three wishes?


I did. You can guess what they are.


GravatarCongratulations and a *pleasant* evening, Zap!


GravatarAwww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.




That...image...is too much for my maple pure mind.


GravatarGO TIGERS.

Wouldn't that be wild if they won today?


no, it wouldn't. it'd deprive me of the pleasure of watching the As stomp the yamn dankees in the dirt.


GravatarToday would have been my sister's 54th birthday.....


GravatarI think Tom DTL might have that distinction. But you definitely win the Most Exotic Locales Posted From Award, Lifetime Category.


GravatarUh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today


I was actually going to check to see if it was today. I knew it was ths or next week.

Congratulations!


Gravatarshe is either the biggest moron in the world or a stupid, fucking republican whore
liars for bush | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 9:44 am


those are NOT mutually exclusive, i'm sure you know...
.


GravatarUh, yeah. Light posting day for me, too.
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today


NTodd's posting pics - you should too.


Gravatarplantsman: More Curly, please!

Curly? I gotta make more...
.


Gravatar'Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today'

Whooop it up, then.

outahere meself.


GravatarBest wishes to you and your bride, Zap!


GravatarAwww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.

Hold on, I'll go talk to watertiger about that...


GravatarNOT FAIR!!
Dr. Barmpot


I got to have a longish conversation with Athenae last night (which is why I hung around and drank that last fatal glass of beer) and I must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing. What a woman. I really do want to be her when I grow up.


GravatarMay your fond memories of your sister comfort you today, Dr. Barmpot.


GravatarAwww, go drain some sap, Vermonter.



GravatarZap,

Hope your marriage goes better than the Twins, ya know?

Congratulations.

Off to shuttle some Dem canvassers for a few hours - have a good day.


GravatarGotta head out, ...

Everyone in NYC, have one for me!

Back in a few hours from that bastion of Liberty, Toledo Ohio.

Ugh.


Gravatarcatch you all laters


GravatarHave a most excellent happy day, Zap!


GravatarZap Rowsdower, Marrying Today

all joy to you, borther!@!


GravatarI must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing.

Yes, and she also exudes a great deal of compassion. She's a wonderful woman, just wonderful.

But quilt lady, you ain't so bad yourself, you know. You're charming and intelligent, and I had a lovely conversation with you in Philadelphia, as I recall. I hope you all have a great time. Kiss Simels for me.


Gravatarjac,
I tend to think the Ralston thing is huge, too.

As KO noted, Rove should go out looking for lost wallets, because he's improbably lucky.


Gravatarand I must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing.

She's amazing!


GravatarMolly Ivors,

Never been there, but looks as good as anywhere else. 4 PM?

I will disseminate.


GravatarBack in a few hours from that bastion of Liberty, Toledo Ohio.Ugh.
Barry from AK in Chicago - 9:48 am


ummm, the Toledo Blade's one of the best papers in the country...
just sayin'
.


GravatarHold on, I'll go talk to watertiger about that...

NO FLIRTING!


GravatarThe guest was the Columbine father who originally was on with Katie. His spiel? That liberals are trying to censor him.

Like his crazy-ass shit isn't going to censor itself?

And speaking of Katie:

The CBS Evening News with Katie Couric saw a further audience exodus on the first two days of this week, even as viewers tuned into the nightly news programs in greater numbers for news about the Amish school shootings and the sex scandal involving Florida Congressman Mark Foley. According to Nielsen the viewer numbers broke down this way: Monday: NBC, 9,940,000; ABC, 8,490,000; and CBS, 8,100,000. Tuesday: NBC, 8,630,000: ABC, 8,490,000; and CBS 6,550,000.


GravatarZap's getting hitched today? Mazel tov, dude.


GravatarOff to Toledo in just a bit, then Honolulu.

One of these things is not like the other...


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GravatarHave fun nuptuals-wise, Zap!


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GravatarI got to have a longish conversation with Athenae last night (which is why I hung around and drank that last fatal glass of beer) and I must say, she is as witty and intelligent in person as in her writing.

Athenae ROCKS!!!


GravatarNever been there, but looks as good as anywhere else. 4 PM?

Reviews say cheap and friendly and mapquest says it's close to where we want to end up.


GravatarBack in a few hours from that bastion of Liberty, Toledo Ohio.

I grew up there, as did Katie Holmes.


GravatarCBS 6,550,000.
Supreme Commander Thor


Shortest evening news anchor career ever?


GravatarTrolls are not early risers, thank dog!!


GravatarOne of these things is not like the other...

Well, if you close your eyes and drink a glass of pineapple juice...


GravatarKiss Simels for me.
Vicki, Who


I kissed Simels.

I kissed Feral.

I kissed NTodd

I kissed Spork

I kissed hisstoryman

I kissed Ridichrome

... Im sure I'm leaving out someone.


GravatarCBS 6,550,000.
Supreme Commander Thor

Shortest evening news anchor career ever?
Virginia


She'll soon be doing the news in a bikini if this keep up.


GravatarThanks everyone! I wish that you could all be in Saint Paul today so I could share this day with you. You're like, my extended family, 'n shit.

I should probably, like, do stuff, or something.

All you east coast elitists have one on me!

Peace!!


GravatarI will disseminate.

Oooh, Soul Coughing!


GravatarAthenae ROCKS!!!

This is very true.


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Gravatar Dr. Barmpot-aren't you going to Canada to check out the bungalow?
Karin


Not today I'm'n't. Today I have to paint the ramada. And vacuum. And make a chicken meatloaf. And plant some celery and stuff. The agent is supposed to be sending me more pictures of it tho.

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GravatarQL,

Just sent you the deets.


Gravatarummm, the Toledo Blade's one of the best papers in the country...

I used to deliver it. Their tag was always "One of America's Great Newspapers". They have done a great job during the Bush Clusterfuck Era.


GravatarShe'll soon be doing the news in a bikini if this keep up.

Will. Not. Help.


GravatarAthenae ROCKS!!!

Afuckingmen.


GravatarAthenae ROCKS!!!

Afuckingmen.


GravatarTrolls are not early risers, thank dog!!

It seems hte Trolls are having a hard time trying to keep up with the, "So, you support the GOP going after kids?" retort. Lose/lose for them anyway you look at it--and they're losers to begin, so it's the trifecta troll smackdown.


GravatarOh, I think that the Karen Ralston story is huge, but I don't think it's going to get the ink or the electrons right now that the Foley scandal is getting.

And I also think that in the long-run, her story is going to have wider repercussions than Foley's.

It's just not as sexy.


GravatarMorning, everyone.

Congratulations and best wishes for a happy future together.

for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.

Take those vows seriously, because you are going to see some of everything.


GravatarJust sent you the deets.

People are drinking? In a bar?


GravatarPeace!!
Zap Rowsdower, Marrying Today


Big hugs to you and your sweetie, sweetie! Have a beautiful day!


Gravatarspork & tigre,

Deets on the way.


GravatarHave a very, very nice wedding Zap & Zapette. Be nice to each other and remember to do the Dance of Joy.


GravatarWill. Not. Help.
plantsman, lowercase,/i>

That smile of hers makes me think she went to the Joker School of Broadcast Reporting.


GravatarThis was for Zap and his bride, of course.


GravatarNot today I'm'n't. Today I have to paint the ramada. And vacuum.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers


What color are you going to paint the vacuum? Will it match the toaster?


GravatarI witness more sweet emotions here than anywhere
else in my little life these days. Atrios be praised.


GravatarWhat color are you going to paint the vacuum? Will it match the toaster?

hee hee.


GravatarTake those vows seriously, because you are going to see some of everything.
pie


Truer words were never spoken.

Sadly, I have a friend who has terminal brain cancer. He fell in love with and married a woman who had been hurt before in life. He took her in, loved her, straightened her teeth, bought her a beautiful home, and they were gloriously happy until he was diagnosed.

She just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.


Gravatarspork & tigre,

Deets on the way.


Most excellent. I shall not screw up again.


GravatarWhat color are you going to paint the vacuum? Will it match the toaster?
jac


I did see that there's a company who'll slipcover my icebox in copper - that'd be pretty kuhl.


GravatarHave a wonderful wedding Zap and life after!


GravatarNTodd: I grew up there, as did Katie Holmes.

Yeah... and look what happened to the two of you!
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Gravatarkissed Simels.
I kissed Feral.
I kissed NTodd
I kissed Spork
I kissed hisstoryman
I kissed Ridichrome
... Im sure I'm leaving out someone.
ql in ny appalled


Umm. Yeah, I've been meaning to talk to you about that.

Harumph.


GravatarI grew up there, as did Katie Holmes.
NTodd4 - 9:52 am


so did my dad, at least part of the time...he went to devilbiss high, class of '37 or '38...
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GravatarI'm from the same town as Noah Adams and Ashley Judd.
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GravatarThis is why I like Barcelona:

BARCELONA, Spain - Albert Rivera's nude body is everywhere to be seen — just what he wants as he runs for president of Catalonia. Rivera has filled the streets of Barcelona and other Catalan cities with thousands of posters of him in the buff, modestly shielding himself with his hands.

The 26-year-old lawyer knows his campaign to lead this powerful northeastern Spanish region is a long shot. But he hopes at least to get voters talking about something else besides their role within Spain and whether they should speak Catalan or Spanish.

"We believe that we need a modern Catalonia where nationalism is not the only thing on the agenda," Rivera said in an interview. "Public money that's sunk into projects like Catalan-only sports teams or a Catalan national anthem should be destined to projects that encourage social equality."

His gimmick has brought attention to his fledgling Ciutadans, or Citizens, party as it tries to win seats in the Catalonia parliament Nov. 1. The party is stressing mundane issues like housing and transportation.

Beside Rivera's picture, the poster reads: "We don't care where you were born. We don't care which language you speak. We don't care what kind of clothes you wear. We care about you."


Gravatarhee hee.
pie


You my new best friend.


Gravatarkissed Simels.
I kissed Feral.
I kissed NTodd
I kissed Spork
I kissed hisstoryman
I kissed Ridichrome


SLUT!


GravatarGood morning. (SO nice not to be up at 5AM!). What did I miss in the last 180th-of-a-Friedman that resulted in a big-ass article showing up in the SPTimes about the "shadowy role" some "unknown blog" played in exposing Foley? Have y'all been talking about this or is it just wingers?

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/10/ 0...e_raises_.shtml


GravatarOh, and... Chuck Wollery. How could I forget Chuck!
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GravatarI hear watertiger is going to take control of NTodd's diet and exercise regimen and make him live according to the tenets of Scientology.

Oh wait. That's Tom Cruise abnd Katie Holmes. steve simels regrets the error.


GravatarIt's just not as sexy.
Diane C. Barking-Mad

Sex sells and that's why the Karen Ralston story will be buried by the MSM.

Robert Kuttner has written his usual first rate column attacking the Bushboy/Gooper incompetence and corruption in today's Boston Globe.

Consider how many Gooper foxes have been appointed to "guard the hen house."

There are more than most people realize.


GravatarShe just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.

This happens more than we care to think. Luckily for my mom, when her cancer recurred, my Dad became a wonderful loving care-giver till her end.
And our relationship improved immeasurably.


GravatarMost excellent. I shall not screw up again.

Heh.


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GravatarShe just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I'm gonna go ahead and pass judgment.


GravatarI witness more sweet emotions here than anywhere
else in my little life these days. Atrios be praised.


Me, too. Someone said something to Dr. Barmpot last night that made me cry - the poignancy of the comment. It was that she does things in life that matter in practical ways.


GravatarWe Are Not Either Unknown.


GravatarMost excellent. I shall not screw up again.

How did you manage to screw that up?


Gravatarwatertiger screwed up? That'd be a first.


GravatarMost excellent. I shall not screw up again.

Thank god for Internet cafes...


GravatarHastert has amassed a 6 million dollar fortune from his time in the House. Nice work if you can get it.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ 2006...1006hastert.php


GravatarI loves me some Wolcott:
Also on the panel was Ana Marie Coy Expressions, who needs to run a comb through her hair before going on camera and knock off the discount Maureen Dowdisms.


Gravatarres -

Got it.


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Gravatar"the discount Maureen Dowdisms."

...and the final word that needs to be written about Wonkette, has been written.


GravatarHeavens to Betsy I'm feeling unmotivated this morning.


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GravatarShe just left him to die alone. Couldn't handle the pressure. I'm not passing judgment here, I'm just saying that strength comes from working through the difficult times.

This happens more than we care to think.


Five brothers, and they all disappeared.


Gravatarpie,

Is your Comcast all fucked up? Mine keeps crashing. I haven't had an e-mail from anyone in at least 12 hours - including the bazillion daily briefings I get on things from astrology to politics to my bank account to daily positive thoughts, etc.

It's bugging me.


GravatarNim, I thought you were getting married today too?


GravatarAlso on the panel was Ana Marie Coy Expressions, who needs to run a comb through her hair before going on camera and knock off the discount Maureen Dowdisms.

Man that was some choice snark!

Ah-nah, my ass!


GravatarAna Marie Coy Expressions



He's right about the coiffure, too.


Gravatar...and the final word that needs to be written about Wonkette, has been written.
Nim


Calling her Dowd-y makes for a nice dual-purpose putdown.


GravatarHeavens to Betsy I'm feeling unmotivated this morning.

If it makes you feel any better I've no intention of leaving my couch, my bed, or my PJs at any time before at least noon.


GravatarHeavens to Betsy I'm feeling unmotivated this morning.


If you're interested in Chinese archeology, the Asia Society has a fab new exhibit. I was chatting with their education director the other day.


GravatarAnd Zap ties the knot today? Congrats! Hope all goes wonderfully for the rest of your lives.


GravatarGooper foxes "guarding the hen house:"
A short list:

Hastert overseeing the House.
Frist overseeing the Senate.
Gonzalez overseeing the law.
Big Oil/Enron making Energy policy.
Big Pharma making Medicare policy.
Big Bio-Tech making FDA policy.
The MSM making FCC policy.
Big Energy & Big Auto making EPA policy.
And overseeing the whole shootin' match is Bushboy, the lord pertecter!!!


GravatarThe maggots are eating Denny's brain.


GravatarNim, I thought you were getting married today too?


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I did not know that.


GravatarI did see that there's a company who'll slipcover my icebox in copper - that'd be pretty kuhl.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers


vandykes.com has an awesome copper bathtub, and kitchen sinks.


Gravatarwatertiger screwed up? That'd be a first.

with age comes loss of memory.

that and an unerring sense of being just one block off all the time.


Gravatar"Nim, I thought you were getting married today too?
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
"

Well, I hadn't planned on it, but if there's a weekend special airfare to Las Vegas, I'd consider it.


GravatarI loves me some Wolcott:

That's it. I see the man in the street fairly regularly. Next time, I'm going all "Wayne's World I'm Not Worthy" on him.


GravatarCongrats on the big day, Zap! Many happy returns.


GravatarGood morning, everyone -- just wanted to say that I had an excellent time at the party last night, even though I had to duck out relatively early because of work today. Res, if you're still around, thanks again...


GravatarHeh. I'm free for the weekend. Thought I might have to go in today or tomorrow.

Currently meeting uncle smokes at 1:00 to do a bit of sightseeing in lower Manhattan.

Interested sportk? Or anyone else hanging out in NYC this weekend.


GravatarZap Rowsdower,
The happiest of marrying days to you.

I'm not so good at the something "old", "new" or "borrowed" parts of the rite, but if you need something "blue", I'm your guy


GravatarJen just told me she'd marry Nim today if he'd let her...she says she wants to lock him up for life!

Bwahahahahahahahahaha.


Gravatarres, you're totally worthy. Talk to Wolcott!


GravatarFive brothers, and they all disappeared.
Molly Ivors


So sad. I'm not really passing judgment, although it's awfully tempting. I know people can handle different levels of intensity, and everyone doesn't know how to get help (HOSPICE).

It just seems like that's an escape that would plague a person for the rest of his/her life. Regrets, much? And I'm perverse (?) in that I want to be there for folks when they are in their darkest hours.


GravatarCopper sinks? Well, of course it does -- it's much heavier than water.
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Gravatarbut if you need something "blue", I'm your guy

Hey, I do the "blue" thing, too, and I've got time right now--


Gravatar3-day weekend here, Canajun Thanksgiving.

I intend to spend at least 40 hours of that time on the couch.


GravatarOkay, kids. I'm going to try to get this massive geographical formation known as the family to move toward leaving: showers, baths, clothes.... it all takes time.

At the appointed place at the appointed hour, then, bats.

*mwah!*


GravatarIf you're interested in Chinese archeology, the Asia Society has a fab new exhibit. I was chatting with their education director the other day.

Hmmm...also, there's some photo shows down in Chelsea.


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GravatarIf you're interested in Chinese archeology, the Asia Society has a fab new exhibit. I was chatting with their education director the other day.
The Jewish Museum has that comic book show which looks great, but they're closed this weekend and next. Lots of Jewish holidays.


GravatarHospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.


GravatarCopper sinks? Well, of course it does -- it's much heavier than water.
Jeffraham Prestonian


*rimshot*


Gravatarql -

Yeah, sounds good. Let me know the details.


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GravatarTyping with a nudgey cat on one's lap makes typing difficult.


GravatarSpeaking of Wolcott, did ya'll see the cover of the new "VF?"

My boyfriend's on it, dancing with some blonde tramp.


GravatarHospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.

That's what we did. But someone needs to be there all the time, and it helps if there's a lot of someones to do it.


GravatarOoh. George Felix should be really busy this weekend.


GravatarJust read this about some of Bushes "signing statements" (executive branches way of hiding their hands, fingers crossed, behind their backs as they say "I promise!") among them...

Mr. Bush, for example, said he would disregard a requirement that the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency must have at least five years experience and "demonstrated ability in and knowledge of emergency management and homeland security."
His rationale was that it "rules out a large portion of those persons best qualified by experience and knowledge to fill the office."

Now, maybe this is somehow not as moronic as at first? I mean, do they mean the law states the person has to specifically come from FEMA, OR does it mean what I think, that one has to have experience "in the field" which would mean it could be experience elsewhere (in which case, the White House once aganin are shown being dishonest).


GravatarMy boyfriend's on it

res, We have the two bestest boyfriends in the world.


Gravatar Hospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.
plantsman, lowercase


I'm just wondering whether I couldn't call for some respite care for myself.


GravatarHospice services are available at home in a lot of places, too.
plantsman, lowercase - 10:09 am


my dad was in a home-hospice care program...a nurse came to the house every other day for the last 6 mos of his life...when he died, it was she whom we called...
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GravatarWalcott's been slacking with his blog. That needs to change.


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GravatarMolly, I wish you peace and healing from the hurt.


GravatarRerun of yesterday's Sam Seder is teasing some guy named Duncan something, of some blog thingy or other.


GravatarWolcott.


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GravatarIf America was truly the greatest nation on earth:

1. We would have direct election of the president and eliminate the electoral college.

2. We would stop invading other countries or overthrowing democratically elected (or any other) governments.

3. We would have national singlepayer health insurance that would cover everyone.

4. The Gooper party would be outlawed for seeking the overthrow of the US Constitution and the government derived therefrom.


GravatarI'm just wondering whether I couldn't call for some respite care for myself.

Girl, you've EARNED That!


Gravatarplantsman,

George Felix Macacastein I-Never-Sent-A-Naughty-IM-to-a-Teenager Allen Junior is the only Republican who is happy about L'Affair de Foley.


GravatarGilliard nails it:

As for the House leadership...

When the Allies liberate German concentration camps in 1945, they marched the locals into the camps at gunpoint, so they couldn't deny they didn't know and hadn't seen.

I'd like to take them to a mental hospital, youth prison, group home, wherever the survivors of child abuse are housed, and let them ask how it feels to be betrayed by those you loved and trusted. So they can't pretend they didn't commit a great crime, a crime which they cannot escape or deny.

As for Reynolds, Drudge and the rest, I'd like to take them to the Hetrick-Martin institute, and the kids there, chased from homes and schools for being gay, can discuss the issues of older people trying to take advantage of them is like. So they can't say they don't know.

Foley is a monster, a living, breathing monster. He's not just a goofy old man, or a solved problem. He hurt people, he ruined lives. If he fucked kids, he did tremendous damage to them. He used his office to seduce children, to bend them to his will, used them and discarded them. What do you think he did? He wasn't chasing a child, this wasn't Lolita. He was chasing as many kids as he could find. He was spending money on them, feeding them booze. What the fuck do you think happened to them?

They call them child abuse survivors for a reason. Not everyone survives. We do not know what kind or wreckage Foley left in his wake.

The reason he survived for so long was the confederacy of cowards which protected him, for whatever reasons.


Gravatarhey again

congrats Zap hope you have a truly wonderful day.


Gravatarspork,

Yeah. We should pass legislation requiring him to post at least once a day. Of course, we'd have to chuck the 8th Amendment, but I think the Republicans might actually go for that one.


GravatarI mean, do they mean the law states the person has to specifically come from FEMA, OR does it mean what I think, that one has to have experience "in the field" which would mean it could be experience elsewhere (in which case, the White House once aganin are shown being dishonest).
Tom Joad


Dear, this is why we invented the Civil Service.


GravatarMr. Bush, for example, said he would disregard a requirement that the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency must have at least five years experience and "demonstrated ability in and knowledge of emergency management and homeland security."
His rationale was that it "rules out a large portion of those persons best qualified by experience and knowledge to fill the office."


Like the assholes he's put in charge of FEMA? 86 can't figure out what he's gonna have for breakfast most of the time, but he knows who's "qualified" to run departments like FEMA.

Fuck The Decider. And everyone who voted for his stupid ass.


Gravatarspork, I emailed the deets to res to pass on to you cause I never can remember your real name.


GravatarGeorge Felix Macacastein I-Never-Sent-A-Naughty-IM-to-a-Teenager Allen Junior is the only Republican who is happy about L'Affair de Foley.
res ipsa loquitur


Speakina Mr. Sen. Allen, Jr., he's not the only Republican candidate Foot-in-Mouth Disease.

Ahnuld shares his propensity to say stupidly racist things.


GravatarWho's liveblogging the Zap nups? When do they start?


GravatarI am trying to get motivated to tidy my room as its currently extremly messy

you can enjoy some Saturday View Blogging, also here


Gravatarres, Tweety got a good one in last night when he told Howard Fineman that Macacastein "Didn't seem happy to be revealed as Jewish. Fineman broke into a very genuine grin.


GravatarI never can remember your real name.

I feel so insignificant. **sniffle**

And: I give up. Definition and etymology of "deets", please.

I never heard the word before today.

(Yes, I"m generally clueless.)


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GravatarGirl, you've EARNED That!
plantsman, lowercase


Well, maybe. But wanting isn't the same as having.

More coffee! And, where's the Albuquerque blue paint for the windows?


GravatarGeorge W. Bush killed nearly 30 American soldiers in Iraq this week...

it's gotta be a record of sorts...


and don gonyea is a fucking syphillitic whore...


GravatarThe reason he survived for so long was the confederacy of cowards which protected him, for whatever reasons.

Foley was a big money draw, so they kept him. Look the other way when he's on the computer, though, since the GOP didn't t want to know what he's up to.

The GOP: The Party That Hannibal Lecter Would Enjoy.


GravatarI am trying to get motivated to tidy my room as its currently extremly messy.

That can be a very tough nut to crack. Good Luck!


GravatarIf it makes you feel any better I've no intention of leaving my couch, my bed, or my PJs at any time before at least noon.
res ipsa loquitur




I let the dog out to go pee and he took off. Now that he's rounded up, back to bed with my snoring sweety.

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GravatarI've lost context, but deets = details?


GravatarPlantsman,
Thanks. It was a couple of years ago, now, but I have to say that I really haven't felt the same about my brothers since.

My MIL, who worked in respite care for a number of years, told me as things were coming to their end that no one would feel bad for me; they'd feel bad for my brothers who lost their mother. I didn't believe her, but she turned out to be right.


GravatarChris Tweety Matthews has been promoting his college tour appearances with Robin Williams
failing to mention he has a cameo appearance in the new movie --sort fatboy product placement and now they are promoting the movie


whoring as always


Gravatarand don gonyea is a fucking syphillitic whore...

It's been days since I've listened to NPR.

It's been nice. I should not-listen more often.


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GravatarI never can remember your real name.

I feel so insignificant. **sniffle**


I'm sure it is only a tribute to your fierce Jedi powers.

"This is not the spork you're looking for..."


GravatarAsked his views on assimilation, Schwarzenegger said being a successful American requires immigrants to learn English and U.S. history in addition to fully engaging in the nation's culture.

Sort of like when one of his fellow countrymen once took over another country and then "assimilated" Austria into the family?


GravatarFuck The Decider. And everyone who voted for his stupid ass.
Supreme Commander Thor

You would think that The Decider might be less decisive after fucking up every decision he's made, but then The Decider is really The Denier, who refuses to see the carnage in Iraq or the burgeoning debt that his stupidity and ignorance have created.


GravatarMolly, It was amazing how my two surviving sisters got so incredibly busy the last six months of mom's life. One managed to call on a daily basis.


GravatarI've lost context, but deets = details?

Ah, that would make sense. T'anks.


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GravatarI never can remember your real name.

(waves hand frantically)
I know! I know! Pick me!

(I know everybody's real name, even Mrs. Atrios! And Hecate! Not pie, though.)


GravatarPatty OBigot Buchanan says Fatboy Denny is the victim of a gay republican cabal


GravatarMolly Ivors, you do, of course have plenty of people to shower love on -- including the incomparably manly Thers!


Gravatar"This is not the spork you're looking for..."




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GravatarIt is rather difficult to motivate this morning, isn't it. The Great Hound has been trying to climb on my lap for an hour now - his way of telling me he wants to go for a walk. Must leave computer.


GravatarOne managed to call on a daily basis.

I had one brother--the best of the lot--who spent five minutes a day in the sickroom. Of course, he lived in the same house.


GravatarEyerack War Coalition Fatalities, animated map
http://www.obleek.com/iraq/

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Gravatardeets is mosquito repellant


GravatarHuzzah! To Zap and his bride! May your faces ache a week from smiling.


GravatarMan, that post of Gilliard's really set off alarm bells at Brownshirt Central. He's got concern trolls, defeat trolls, and your standard issue moronic brownshirt fucks all whining in his comments section...


GravatarYou guys see this yet? Top post from Aravosis.

http://www.americablog.blogspot.com/


GravatarI think we're unmotivated because it's cold. I sent the boy off to play soccer with his uniform over a sweatsuit. He looked like the Michelin Man.


Gravatarand a tasty new snack by Nabisco. less filling ... tastes Great!


GravatarCNN was bad but there's a lot of blame to go around. Virtually every station reporting the Fat Bastard "The Dems did it" BS didn't go after how it was a move of desperation without any grounding whatsoever. Nor did they challenge Fat Bastard and the Repugnobots directly with making it up.


GravatarThe awful truth is that the Goopers have no redeeming features, and what's worse is that 40% of the American electorate still don't fucking know it!!!!!


GravatarThe Great Hound has been trying to climb on my lap for an hour now ...

Ah these Congressmen today, and their strange IM lingo...


GravatarIf Mark Foley's emails were not criminal, knowing about them could not be.


Gravatar"The Great Hound has been trying to climb on my lap for an hour now ...

Ah these Congressmen today, and their strange IM lingo...
driftglass "

Did you turn this over to the FBI yet?


Gravatargarage mahal

He may be right. I have this thought in my head that there are at least two more in the mix.


GravatarMolly, it is cold. Fall is here, alas.

45 right now in Bland Rapids.

Our plans are shaping up nicely for Feral's visit next week, at least.


GravatarThe Fat Bastard can barely walk. He kind of lunges from step to step.

He also can barely talk, which is odd for "The Speaker," who mostly mumbles.

And for chrissakes don't ask him to walk and talk at the same time, it would cause so much consternation, he might expire!


GravatarPatty OBigot Buchanan says Fatboy Denny is the victim of a gay republican cabal
liars for bush - 10:23 am


that'd be the notorious Log Cabal?
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GravatarAnalysis: Hastert learned from wrestling
WASHINGTON - A lesson from Dennis Hastert's years as a high school wrestling coach: There's no one to blame but yourself if you get pinned.
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The strongest hit he could put on those pesky Democrats?

"Maybe they're resolving to, another way, to, to another political tactic," he said, and then the news conference was over.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061...DMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

That last paragraph is a clipped quote that pretty much makes no sense. Here is what he said at the end of his presser:
"Our friends on the other side of the aisle really don't have a story to tell, and maybe they're resolving to another way, to another political tactic"

So for two days the guy that learned personal responsibly from his days as a wrestling coach blamed the democrats.


Gravatarnow when i write angry emails to various media outlets --i also send them to various other media outlets
i try to make the subject line as outrageous as possible

at least it makes me feel better
today I used nbc anchor condones sex with underage girls


GravatarJEB Bush in the closet in Pittsburgh! Must read quip at Josh's.


Gravatar...that'd be the notorious Log Cabal?

Woody G.,

Someone (Billmon, maybe) had a post up this week that said conservative gay GOP insiders have been referring to themselves as the "Lavender Bund" since Reagan days.

Who the hell would call themselves such a thing?


Gravatartoday I used nbc anchor condones sex with underage girls


Evidence that CBS anchor exposed asshole to nation.


GravatarWho the hell would call themselves such a thing?


Conservative gay GOP insiders.


GravatarHastert been taking public speaking pointers from Dubya?


Gravatarliars for bush, I use the opposite tactic, figuring the readers will discount and delete any obviously angry email; but at least you're writing!


GravatarPressure increases on Speaker Hastert.


GravatarBlowhard Buchanan (Pat or Bay) can be counted on for the dumbest shit in TV commentary and yet, they are always on either MSNBC, CNN, PBS or other channels.

I can't stand either and flick them off as soon as they appear, but they are indicative of how the MSM has promoted the dumbing of America.


GravatarRove: "go ahead and talk ignorant ... the public will find it endearing"


GravatarSomeone (Billmon, maybe) had a post up this week that said conservative gay GOP insiders have been referring to themselves as the "Lavender Bund" since Reagan days.

The Boys in the Bund, as it were.


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GravatarWhat Vicki said, add in German heritage.


GravatarLavender Bund

http://billmon.org/archives/002795.html


GravatarWell, I need to risk arrest to put a meager amount of petrol in the 'Stang, sometime, today. Even though I never drive more than a mile, it still insists on being fed. Imagine that!
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GravatarNot pie, though.


I do!



GravatarBray Buchanan called for Hastert to step down.


GravatarMolly -- I'm sorry the loss of your mom is/was so rough on you.

It's gotten easier for me to deal with losing my own mom as time has passed (12 years). However, my brother really neglected her all his adult life, and declined to help her in a time of serious need when he could (and I could not) offer it. I'll never forgive him for it. Plus, he was in this (her) house about 4 times in the many years she owned it, and never gave a damn, until she died and he remembered he had a financial interest in it. (She had made a will leaving it to me exclusively, but never signed the damned thing. Legal loophole, woohoo!)

He's -- guess what? -- a big bush repuke.


Gravatarplantsman

I used to do what you do and then one day during the 2004 campaign I sent a very angey email...and got a response..so ever since then
I try to be amusing, provocative and as mean as possible within the bounds of truth.


GravatarNBC anchor is Brian Williams. Are you guys sure you don't mean the new CBS anchor, Katie "I'm trying hard to be relevent" Kouric???


GravatarNot pie, though.


I do!


Me, too, and Hecate, too.


GravatarHenny Penny, who will help me bake this pie?


Gravatar Analysis: Hastert learned from wrestling
WASHINGTON - A lesson from Dennis Hastert's years as a high school wrestling coach: There's no one to blame but yourself if you get pinned.
...
The strongest hit he could put on those pesky Democrats?

"Maybe they're resolving to, another way, to, to another political tactic," he said, and then the news conference was over.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061...DMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

That last paragraph is a clipped quote that pretty much makes no sense. Here is what he said at the end of his presser:
"Our friends on the other side of the aisle really don't have a story to tell, and maybe they're resolving to another way, to another political tactic"

So for two days the guy that learned personal responsibly from his days as a wrestling coach blamed the democrats.


That "maybe" says it all. He made the shit up. Pulled it out of his capacious ass.


GravatarI even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim.


GravatarWho hiding in his basement?


GravatarI even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Well, my last name isn't really Barking-Mad.


GravatarWhy is it so many people who claim to be so invested in "personal responsibility" fail their families at the worst possible times?


GravatarMy MIL, who worked in respite care for a number of years, told me as things were coming to their end that no one would feel bad for me; they'd feel bad for my brothers who lost their mother. I didn't believe her, but she turned out to be right.
Molly Ivors


I was okay with it by and large - right up to the day when Bunny-Bunny explained to me that he didn't feel any need to sympathise with the way my life had been put on hold because it had all been my choice and voluntary and therefore I must have preferred things to be the way they were. That was a little bit after he and Mrs. Bunny-Bunny got hold of the strange idea that my mother's household goods needed to be parcelled out, mostly to themselves, starting with the jewellery and car and proceeding to the furniture. That didn't get very far actually.


Gravatarcapacious is a real word ... I looked it up lol means roomy


GravatarWhite House aide to Rove resigns

Susan Ralston stepped down Friday from her post as a special assistant to President Bush. A congressional report showed she had extensive contacts with Abramoff and had accepted tickets to sporting events and concerts from him.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061...DJlYmhvBHNlYwM-

ralston was special assistant to bush but the headline says rove's aide? Why? Why not "special assistant to bush resigns" ?

Same thing with scooter. Among his many titles his main title was "Assistant to the President" yet news articles listed him as cheney's aide.


GravatarI looked it up lol means roomy.

Denny Hastert's ass is certainly that.


GravatarI even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Guess mine! Go ahead -- guess!


GravatarGoddamn they are shameless, unaccountable, finger pointing fucks:

Duke: "I Hurt More Than Anyone Can Imagine"
By Justin Rood - October 7, 2006, 8:38 AM
Duke Cunningham speaks! In an error-laden letter to the reporters who helped put him in prison, the disgraced ex-congressman lashed out at the investigative team, its paper, one of his bribers and -- not TPMmuckraker. (We're hoping a separate letter is on its way.)

Duke, who may have been the first congressman ever to draft up his own "bribe menu," complained that the reporters only wanted to write about "how I died not how I lived." He cited his many accomplishments and citations, including "Library Man of the Year."

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/arch...ives/ 001749.php


Gravataryeah ... I have to admit I'm not all that terrific either ô¿ô


GravatarMolly and Dr. B,

Greedy and hateful people are hurtful. I'm so sorry.

I'm not a greedy type, so I don't understand the the entitlement issue.

I watched my best friend and her sister care for their mother on a daily basis for three years. They had twelve children in the family, and only those two visited mom. Some of the brothers hadn't seen their mother in over two years. The sweet thing refused to pass until all 12 kids were in the room, so at the last minute, her brothers from the Carolinas arrive, and the woman dies.

I know my best friend lives in peace, knowing that she cared for her mother without complaint.


GravatarI've told people not to mess with Pittsburgh.

Idiot Jeb Bush brings only ONE security guard to this fundraiser in Pittsburgh for Manondog.

He has to SCURRY into a hideyhole like his idiot brother did.

Hope the fucker learns his lesson.

http://post-gazette.com/pg/06280.../728177- 177.stm


GravatarGuess mine! Go ahead -- guess!




I know yours! You've e-mailed me!


GravatarOMG! Just heard the bit with Pony Blow, pimping out windows and siding! Haw!
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GravatarSpread the meme. Refer to rethugs as 'toasters'


Gravatar{{{Gomez!!!}}}


GravatarAs plantsman said, Jeb was in the closet in Pittsburgh. Heh.


GravatarHastert's pants are roomy right now, he hasn't had them on for days, and he's running out of Cherrios and 2% milk.


GravatarA lesson from Dennis Hastert's years as a high school wrestling coach: There's no one to blame but yourself if you get pinned.

Pinning is one thing; pounding baby ass is quite another.


Gravatar"I even know Nim's real name. I bet you're surprised it isn't Nim.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
"

When my own affianced calls me that more than my "real" name, it might as well be =o


GravatarAs plantsman said, Jeb was in the closet in Pittsburgh. Heh.

And he goes to the Duquesne Club, where only the wealthy dine.

Until recently, no Jews, Catholics or Blacks allowed as members.


GravatarWhen my own affianced calls me that more than my "real" name, it might as well be =o




Want that I bitchslap her for you? My little sister, the spitfire. She's fifteen years younger than me, I can still make an impression on her.


GravatarDenny's wife has gone "down south," to be with the "grandchildren."


GravatarSPORK - Did res email you the details?


GravatarUntil recently, no Jews, Catholics or Blacks allowed as members.


Nice. I guess I'm out - two of three. Jewish Catholic.


GravatarMy real name is the most closely-guarded secret on this blog.


GravatarHelen Thomas' podcast in re Foley.


GravatarMy real name is the most openly-posted thingy on this blog.


Gravatarql -

Not yet. Mail me at spork_incident at hotmail dot com.


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GravatarGood morning.

Wow.

Why are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?

I hate the moral equivalancy game but I'd like to see who some of these assholes have been in parades with.


Gravatarql -

Not yet. Mail me at spork_incident at hotmail dot com.


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GravatarI've told people not to mess with Pittsburgh.

Idiot Jeb Bush brings only ONE security guard to this fundraiser in Pittsburgh for Manondog.

He has to SCURRY into a hideyhole like his idiot brother did.

Hope the fucker learns his lesson.

http://post-gazette.com/pg/06280...6280.../728177- 177.stm
Gomez | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 10:46 am | #

I hope one of the lessons the stupid fucked learned was not to blow kisses at Steelworkers. It must be infuriating to know that fucks like bro shrub find joy in excluding US citizens from the democratic process and then have their noses rubbed in it..


GravatarSpeaking of Fat Bastard, interesting paragraph from this morning's Post article:

Palmer, who shares a townhouse with Hastert when they are in town, is more powerful than all but a few House members. Members know that he speaks for Hastert.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...


GravatarNim and Jen have like no spare rooms.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Hey man...just because my spare room is my stained glass studio, doesn't mean that I don't have other options...such as 2 fold-out beds and 2 cozy recliners that I fall asleep in all the time (and one of them even VIBRATES!)



GravatarWhy are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?

You should have heard Hannity selling it yesterday. Coulter and Cadell were his aids.

Don't get me going. I haven't had enough coffee (speaking of which...better brew a pot).


GravatarOT: Has anyone used this website before? Just stumbled across it and it seems well-documented.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/


Gravatar(and one of them even VIBRATES!)


Ha! That one's my bed!


GravatarIt's all greek to me.


GravatarJEB! ("The Less Stupid One") was campaigning for man-on-dog?

What a creep.


Gravatar2 fold-out beds and 2 cozy recliners that I fall asleep in all the time (and one of them even VIBRATES!)


NO FLIRTING!!!


GravatarJEB! ("The Less Stupid One") was campaigning for man-on-dog?

What a creep.


A sign said "Pittsburgh is a Santorum-Free Zone"


GravatarWhy this fear of Pelosi? Denny could down her in one bite.


GravatarWhy are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?

Pictures? Proof? I didn't think so.


GravatarWhy this fear of Pelosi? Denny could down her in one bite.
Lime Rickey


I think it's inoculation for when she's speaker.


GravatarNow we both have sent Spork the deets.


GravatarI doubt Pelosi knew whom she was marching with,
fair number of gay men in SF on Gay Pride Day.
They even hang rainbow banners on the lamposts along Market Street.


GravatarSantorum? Hey, isn't that latin for shit-house?


GravatarAs a precaution, the governor was ushered into a T-station supply closet and stayed there until the crowd left.


GravatarHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
dave


Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....


GravatarHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
dave


Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....


GravatarNAMBLA does not march in the gay pride parade in SF

just another republican hatefilled screed and the media just lets them repeat this garbage


GravatarPalmer, who shares a townhouse with Hastert when they are in town, is more powerful than all but a few House members. Members know that he speaks for Hastert.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
dave™©


We know he's not the bottom. He'd be flat as a pancake.


GravatarThey're after Pelosi now as a coming attraction of what life will be like in Congress if/when the Democrats take over. Those nutjobs will lie and spin like there's no tomorrow. The Democrats will need to do Clinton/Wallace style smackdowns on a regular basis if they want to get anything done. They better be ready.


GravatarGood morning y'all. My head hurts like hell after last night's hootin' and hollerin' for the Tigers. What a game.


GravatarDr. Wu: As a precaution, the governor was ushered into a T-station supply closet and stayed there until the crowd left.

Did he see Narnia?
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GravatarJeb Bush hiding in out in an underground janitor's closet to escape an angry mob?

How....poetic.

Let's see more of these, please.


GravatarHeh. Everyone send good vibes Barndog's way. He may have a seat for the Tigers.

GO TIGERS!


Gravatari>As a precaution, the governor was ushered into a T-station supply closet and stayed there until the crowd left.

Should have locked his ass in there.

"Where's the Governor?"

"He's in the closet?"

"With Tom Cruise? Shit!"


GravatarDr. Wu: As a precaution, the governor was ushered into a T-station supply closet and stayed there until the crowd left.

Which I hope someone photographed.


GravatarHe'd be flat as a pancake.


Time for breakfast.


GravatarLogic suggests that if the Houses of Congress go Democratic, less Goopers will get TV face-time.
But I dunno.


GravatarSantorum, comes with electro-shock therapy and straight white vest


GravatarMost Nambla members are closeted republicans


GravatarWhy are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?

The only hope they have now is to keep the hardcore batshit crazy brownshirts - the 30% of which 70% vote. A poll I saw yesterday had the fundamentalist cults at barely above 50% likely to vote the Nazi ticket. The polls are much more dismal amongst the security moms and NASCAR dads, so they're pretty much conceding the "moderate" vote, and need the Batshit Crazy vote to come out in at least their usual numbers to make up for it. The Right-Wing Ayatollahs all want Hastert's head on a platter, but they'll probably trade that if the Republican leadership will become even more KKKrazy than usual. They hate the "moderate" "pandering" and if the GOP will come right out and say let's string up the faggots, they'd be more than happy to send the sheep into the voting booths. Hence, they'll be waving the Bloody Flag of Faggotism from now until the first week of November.


Gravatar Refer to rethugs as 'toasters'

'Skin jobs' is also acceptable.


GravatarA lesson from Dennis Hastert's years as a high school wrestling coach: There's no one to blame but yourself if you get pinned.

And he takes that as an excuse to do anything, even break the rules to prevent it. Some wrestling coach--the kind who would tell his team to cockpunch if necessary.


GravatarIt's not a war on Islam but aircraft carriers get "christened"


GravatarHastert has amassed a 6 million dollar fortune from his time in the House. Nice work if you can get it.

Maybe that's the reason they spend millions for a job that pays around 100,000 or so.

And I thought it was 'cause they are patriots wanting to give back to their country.

First Santa, then the Easter Bunny, now this.


GravatarWarner: Iraq Drifting Sideways

And this is NEWS? This is some sort of SURPRISE? It's no surprise at all, because sideways drift and wholesale
destruction of the planet and it's people is exactly the sick inhuman agenda PLANNED by the perpetrators of these daily crimes against Americans, and against humanity. WHY is Karr "free to return to obscurity" and a "free man" all of a sudden, after his involvement in the Ramsey slaying was trumpeted all over the media to the exclusion of serious
coverage of the ever-worsening Iraq debacle? The reason is because Karr
knows all about the global child molestor ring headed up by some of the very same people who have brought you the Foley affair and other delightful news of the day. The
corruption, deception, disinformation, manipulation and
sheer unmitigated greed emanating from Washington is a disgrace to all human beings as a class. Demand
triplicate paper ballots independently verified by
both parties and a third independent party. Anything less enables more of the same.


GravatarFirst Santa, then the Easter Bunny, now this.

Gimlet




GravatarBoner: "Why do you have a ham under each arm?"

Denny: "Why do you have baby powder on your chin?"


GravatarMorning Batties -

Lovely day here.


GravatarYou know when the Tooth Fairy goes, the fat lady has sung the last finale.


GravatarIs the chimp on an aircraft carrier again? Where's his flight suit and 6 pack of tube socks?


GravatarWell, I'd best get started on trying to pack up an eight room house for the move to a 4 room apartment.

See you folks later.


Gravatarplantsman,

Coffee's done. Black, right?


GravatarVicki, wonderful!


GravatarAn aircraft carrier being named after Poppy. Dim Son is speaking now at the commissioning. God, I hate this family.


GravatarThe moral of the story is that fresh page boy booty is still only $100,000 a pop.


GravatarThe U.S.S. George H.W. Bush will not go to sea yet.

Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.


GravatarMorning, Tena. Super Indian Summer day here.


Gravatar Refer to rethugs as 'toasters'

I don't get this.


GravatarGOP fire sale.


Gravatarplantsman - It's cool and dry here, after a very hot and humid week.


GravatarThe rudder on the U.S.S. George H.W. Bush has only two settings

"Thousand Points of Light" and

"Stay the Course"


Gravatar NAMBLA does not march in the gay pride parade in SF

just another republican hatefilled screed and the media just lets them repeat this garbage


The new Republiscum talking point would then be: Pelosi in the same STATE ad the head of NAMBLA (that is, if they were moved to correct the first lie).


GravatarI have a fashion question fo y'all.

There's a goofy guy at Cafe Coco who wears one of these, even when it's 95F outside. I don't know what it's called!
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GravatarThe U.S.S. George H.W. Bush

Did they paint a big target on it?


Gravatar(I know everybody's real name, even Mrs. Atrios! And Hecate! Not pie, though.)
Molly Ivors


I know pie's. But I don't know Mrs. Atrios' -


GravatarTena, that sounds very nice. Firey round Eschaton this morning.


Gravatarsounds pretty reactionary but ... it wouldnt be difficult to imagine the whole Karr thing was a hatched Rove concept. what do they care it's only taxpayer virtual money anywayz


GravatarThere's a goofy guy at Cafe Coco who wears one of these, even when it's 95F outside. I don't know what it's called!

A mistake.



GravatarWhy are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?



What is this and where did it come from? I couldn't find the link upthread (if there is one). It sure sounds like a giant crock of shit to me. If they're saying this because she was in the Gay Day parade here in SF, then it's definitely a crock of shit. I mean, who knows if the guy (whoever he is) was actually in that massive parade somewhere? But I have little doubt that if he was part of any kind of contingent that tried to unfurl a banner identifying itself, he would have been instantly hounded out of the parade, probably with injury.


GravatarThe rudder on the U.S.S. George H.W. Bush has only two settings

"Thousand Points of Light" and

"Stay the Course"
Gomez


I heard they've already had a problem with the ship in that it only turns right.


GravatarGud morning. More coherence when the caffeine comes.


GravatarWe got a little problem with the current Zogby poll - while we are asked which party we belong to, the questions presume that we are Republicans....

How likely is it that the current scandal involving former Congressman Mark Foley will change how you plan to vote?
Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree or strongly disagree that concerns about congressional corruption may play a role in your decision to vote this year.
Because of reports about Congressional corruption, I will be much more likely, somewhat more likely, somewhat less likely, or much less likely to vote this year.
Does the recent scandal involving former Congressman Mark Foley make you much more likely, somewhat more likely, somewhat less likely, or much less likely to vote for a Republican?
Does the recent scandal involving former Congressman Mark Foley make you make you much more likely, somewhat more likely, somewhat less likely, or much less likely to vote for a Democrat?
Does the recent scandal involving former Congressman Mark Foley make you make you much more likely, somewhat more likely, somewhat less likely, or much less likely to vote for an independent candidate
Please indicate which of the following two statements comes closer to your own point of view - A or B.
Statement A: The timing of the Foley information release was intended to influence the upcoming election.
Statement B: The timing of the Foley information release was not intended to influence the upcoming election.
Are you proud or ashamed of your party?
Are you proud or ashamed of the national leaders of your party?


GravatarGorgeous with a capital G in the Giant Wang -- October and April are our best months. 75 and fair, with a good breeze . . . ahhhhhhhh.


GravatarI know pie's. But I don't know Mrs. Atrios' -


But do you know mine?


GravatarAnd, disgracing Ireland, Ronan Tynan is providing the song in Newport News.


GravatarI heard they've already had a problem with the ship in that it only turns right.
Supreme Commander Thor




Headed toward an iceburg at the moment.


GravatarDenny's stares at the wrestling trophies, as the bile rises to the back of his glot, ashen he snots, it's all over, now.


GravatarBoner: "We gotta go after the diaper-heads."

Denny: "Christ! They get younger every year."


GravatarTena, that sounds very nice. Firey round Eschaton this morning.
plantsman, lowercase


What kind of firey? The "get your lighters roll that sticky let's get higher, got that blueberry yum yum and it's the fire..." kind or - ?


Gravatargood Morning Bats

I heard they've already had a problem with the ship in that it only turns right.
Supreme Commander Thor


I would assume just keeping it afloat would be a problem...


GravatarThe whole nambla thing is a bullshit argument that the media lets bigots like buchanan spew --

new newsweek poll gives dems the edge on trust issues
so I'm sure people like Alex Wittless will be doing everything she can to throw mud.

the newswek reporter said for the first time since everything changed for us...9/11 DEmocrats have the edge on trust issues
witt wanted to start spewing out dem scandals but she ran out of time
I'm sure it's coming though


GravatarWhy are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?

I'm sitting here smiling, just imagining what the Dykes on Bikes group would do if they saw some guy unfurl a NAMBLA banner. They would turn him into roadkill.


Gravatar "get your lighters roll that sticky let's get higher, got that blueberry yum yum and it's the fire..." kind or - ?

Gimme a couple of hours.


GravatarHe cited his many accomplishments and citations, including "Library Man of the Year."

Else what's the point of done, ruined, fucked?
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GravatarSpread the meme. Refer to rethugs as 'toasters'
Mike


I prefer "dead-enders," actually.


GravatarThe U.S.S. George H.W. Bush

Did they paint a big target on it?


My stepson was stationed in the Navy, and he "did time" (his own words) aboard the Kitty Hawk, which he said everyone called the "Shitty Kitty".

I can just imagine what the sailors are gonna call the GHW Bush. "Man, I am stuck in the Fuckin' Bush!"


GravatarCNN now- aircraft carrier George H.W. Bush??????

We are gonna name an AIRCRAFT CARRIER after a
ONE TERM PRESIDENT WHO ISN'T DEAD YET???

And I thought that was a one time exception for
Reagan 'cause he was pre-maturely BRAIN DEAD!

Sorry for the shoutin', but I just woke up to this.

Roves' Oct. suprise?


GravatarThe Rude One's 10/6 entry is Choice!

http://www.rudepundit.blogspot.com/


GravatarVicki: Coffee's done. Black, right?

Pink (or "pank," as my people often say) sugar for me, please.

Take that however you will.
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GravatarDr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers,

Yup.

How about this: If bush eat a baby on live TV would it change your vote?

No. It would not change my vote.


GravatarBut do you know mine?
Vicki,


To the exact same extent that you know mine.



Hey - look what this keyboard will do: œ ? ´ ´ ® † ¥ ¥¨¨?“‘«“‘«åß?ƒ©???¬…æ??ç??˜µ??÷.

I'm loving this.


GravatarWant that I bitchslap her for you? My little sister, the spitfire. She's fifteen years younger than me, I can still make an impression on her.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I would not recommend that.



GravatarThe U.S.S. George H.W. Bush

Is broccoli on the menu in the galley?


GravatarPink (or "pank," as my people often say) sugar for me, please.

Take that however you will.


Always sugar from me, babe!

Here's a cup, with a cube!


GravatarOKay it's made but still too hot to drink. I'll try to work up some wit here and then maybe somebody will say good morning to me.


GravatarPeople all fired up, ain't takin no shit firey!


Gravatar. The Democrats will need to do Clinton/Wallace style smackdowns on a regular basis if they want to get anything done. They better be ready.
Neponset


Well, they better put Bubba on retainer, then, 'cause who else they got that can do that? Howie comes close, but only close...


GravatarRefer to rethugs as 'toasters'

I don't get this.
Virginia | 10.07.06 - 11:07 am | #


It's cause toasters are a brutal occupation army, in iraq and the usa.


GravatarI would not recommend that.


High Priestess of Selune


Well, since you are BIGGER than me, I suppose I'll refrain.



GravatarNobody is buying Foley's excuses. The DAllas paper has a long column this AM about that and how disgusting it was for Foley to try to blame everything on being molested by a priest.


GravatarBush's fluffing the Navy for the real action, a week or two hence.


Gravatar{{{Mena!!!}}}

No one says hi to me, either, even when I hug them.


GravatarWonder what they'll name after 43.


GravatarIt's cause toasters are a brutal occupation army, in iraq and the usa.
Mike


Might be a little obscure, no?


GravatarNo one says hi to me, either, even when I hug them.
==

Hey Vick. It's a jungle in here.


Gravatar{{{Mena!!!}}}

No one says hi to me, either, even when I hug them.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


That's 'cause you squeeze too hard...


GravatarWonder what they'll name after 43.

Fucker's got a school already.

He shouldn't get more than a public shitter in McArthur Park.


Gravatar
There's a goofy guy at Cafe Coco who wears one of these, even when it's 95F outside. I don't know what it's called!


Canadian national headgear. It's a 'tuke' (also known as a 'toque'.)


GravatarWonder what they'll name after 43.


Au fait accompli.


GravatarSpeaking of marches, I recall when the TFP people marched in the Gulf War 1 victory parade.

The parade wasn't as good as the old soviet Red Square parades, since D.C. streets could only fit one tank at a time.

All the TFP people looked evil and embittered.


GravatarIt's cause toasters are a brutal occupation army, in iraq and the usa.

It would also help if you watched BSG.

I still can't believe what I saw. I'm watching it again as soon as it's done downloading and the proper 'supplies' are obtained.


GravatarWell, since you are BIGGER than me, I suppose I'll refrain.

Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore





GravatarMight be a little obscure, no?
Virginia | 10.07.06 - 11:18 am | #

See previous thread


GravatarAnd yes, nlerb, I'd love to see the nambla scum face to face with the Dykes on Bikes. It's making me smile just to imagine it.


Gravatarmorning mena

My cat insists on keeping his nose on the left side of the keyboard, making capitalizing quite difficult. But it is a warm spot and cold here this morning.


GravatarPeople all fired up, ain't takin no shit firey!
plantsman, lowercase


The very best kind.

There was an anti-air pollution demonstration in Dallas yesterday. I didn't know about it until I read about it this morning in the paper.

People are mad. They really are fed up.


GravatarWonder what they'll name after 43.

That chemical dump in Apex, NC ?


GravatarNimitz, Lincoln, Enterprise, Bush?

Give me a break.

This is an insult to ships everywhere.


GravatarIt's cause toasters are a brutal occupation army, in iraq and the usa.
Mike

Might be a little obscure, no?
Virginia


Not really.

Besides, I thought everyone here was a sci-fi geek?


GravatarHi everyone!


GravatarUm, Blerb. The caffeine hasn't quite finished kicking in.


GravatarHigh Priestess,

Just keep reminding yourself that if it weren't for:

1. Eschaton
2. EschaCon
3. Your humble servant, moi

You wouldn't be engaged to Nim.

Ha! I just won.


GravatarThis moron on MSGOP just told a big, fat lie.

He said that most of the IEDs come from Iran.
The British looked all over and found no evidence of this.

Michael Evans you're an idiot.

Since late August, British commandos in the deserts of far southeastern Iraq have been testing one of the most serious charges leveled by the United States against Iran: that Iran is secretly supplying weapons, parts, funding and training for attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

A few hundred British troops living out of nothing more than their cut-down Land Rovers and light armored vehicles have taken to the desert in the start of what British officers said would be months of patrols aimed at finding the illicit weapons trafficking from Iran, or any sign of it.


Gravatarƒ©???¬…

From a Foley IM?


GravatarOKay it's made but still too hot to drink. I'll try to work up some wit here and then maybe somebody will say good morning to me.
mena

name change to mensa might work


Gravatarjust occurred to me that notEschaconII would have been perfect with mena, tena, vicki, the Dr., plantsman, Virginia, Echidne, Hecate, and everyone else here this morning. As it was, it was pretty darned good!


Gravatar
I still can't believe what I saw. I'm watching it again as soon as it's done downloading and the proper 'supplies' are obtained.
BlakNo1


It was pretty much a slap in the face to certain real-life administrations. I started wondering who the Skin Jobs were going to designate as as the main "#3".


Gravatar I thought everyone here was a sci-fi geek?

It doesn't matter if you're a geek or not. There is no other show on TV that depicts the hellish situation "we" are in as well as BSG.


GravatarI thought a toque was more like a knit cap that goes on top of the head:

"In Canada, "toque" may also be a misspelling of tuque (IPA: [tuk]), a knit woollen winter hat, originally worn by French-Canadians but now a staple of the Canadian winter wardrobe. This "fashion" originated when coureurs des bois kept their woollen nightcaps on for warmth during cold winter days. The Canadian Oxford Dictionary regards the use of toque for this hat to be assimilated from the etymologically unrelated French word tuque."

(A toque is also what a chef wears.)


GravatarDr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers: Canadian national headgear. It's a 'tuke' (also known as a 'toque'.)

Ah! See, Bob & Doug had me convinced that was just a generic term for ANY knit winter cap, not just for ones that had earflaps and pigtails!
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GravatarAs it was, it was pretty darned good!
==

Morning QL! Did anyone take pitchers? I wish I could have been there too.


GravatarWhy are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?



What is this and where did it come from? I couldn't find the link upthread (if there is one). It sure sounds like a giant crock of shit to me. If they're saying this because she was in the Gay Day parade here in SF, then it's definitely a crock of shit. I mean, who knows if the guy (whoever he is) was actually in that massive parade somewhere? But I have little doubt that if he was part of any kind of contingent that tried to unfurl a banner identifying itself, he would have been instantly hounded out of the parade, probably with injury.
blerb


Pat Pukecannon may have been the first to spew this shit. I saw him do it at least twice in the last day or so.


Gravatar"He said that most of the IEDs come from Iran.
The British looked all over and found no evidence of this."

I read a while back on cryptome.org that some of the newer IED arming techniques came from the IRA.


Gravatarql,

I promised more than a few in here that I'd put up a blogger post for EschaCon 2007. Seems the consensus is that we spread the work out a bit, and like that. So I was ready to roll on Thursday and blogger spit at me like the dirty sailor she is, so I'll try to do it this weekend, while everyone's out having a blast.


GravatarABC News' Brian Ross, who broke the Foley story, and who was introduced
on Larry King Live by King as "one of the worlds top investigative reporters" told the New York Times that his sources were Republicans:
Mr. Ross dismissed suggestions by some Republicans that the news was disseminated as part of a smear campaign against Mr. Foley.
"I hate to give up sources, but to the extent that I know the political parties of any of the people who helped us, it would be the same party," Mr. Ross said, referring to Republicans. So, on the morning of Thursday, October 5, CNN reporters and producers almost certainly knew the following facts:
1. The Republican Speaker of the House was blaming Democrats for revealing that Republican Congressman Mark Foley had sexually explicit internet conversations with teenagers, though the speaker offered no evidence to back up his allegations.
2. Widely-read Capitol Hill newspaper The Hill reported on the front page that the emails were passed on to reporters by a "longtime Republican."
3. The ABC News reporter who broke the story said his sources were Republicans.
How did CNN, "the most trusted name in news" choose to handle this information? By flagrantly misleading their viewers -- over and over again, all day and into the evening.


GravatarAw, thanks, ql!


GravatarRepublicans have a history of covering up politicians and rich businessmen having sex with boys, going back to the Ronald Reagan era.

Conspiracy of Silence (Video link) is a banned but well researched documentary from 1994 showing a cover-up of pedophilia by law enforcement as well as politicians, stemming from Boys Town in Nebraska to the White House. It has interviews with victims who were sexually abused and other evidence that is very disturbing. The fact it was banned is evidence of how far this corruption goes.


GravatarIt doesn't matter if you're a geek or not. There is no other show on TV that depicts the hellish situation "we" are in as well as BSG.
That's true. Last night pretty much nailed it in the head.

And it's suppose to get even "darker". Good times, all.


Gravatarql - hey thanks! Wish like hell I could have been there.

Good Morning mena!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarWonder what they'll name after 43.

Fucker's got a school already.

He shouldn't get more than a public shitter in McArthur Park.
Supreme Commander Thor | 10.07.06 - 11:19 am | #

Join the Bush Heritage Project!

We are out there trying to get jails, mental hospitals and garbage dumps named after
43 in all 50 states!


Gravatar*laughing really hard at the mensa suggestion, hurting self*


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ mena! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
.


Gravatarjust occurred to me that notEschaconII would have been perfect with mena, tena, vicki, the Dr., plantsman, Virginia, Echidne, Hecate, and everyone else here this morning. As it was, it was pretty darned good!
ql in ny appalled


WAHHHHHH!

I hope EschaconIIa can be next summer, someplace I can get to, and between graduation and having to actually get a fucking job, and not when we're going to Canada (unless we can do it in Montreal -- that'd be SCHWEET).


GravatarThere is no other show on TV that depicts the hellish situation "we" are in as well as BSG.
BlakNo1 | 10.07.06 - 11:23 am |


Too bad we can't expect helpful space brothers soon.

Maybe we might transmit some sort of plea for help to the stars.


GravatarHa! I just won.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Yeah, you got me there.




Gotta go, Nim and I are going to breakfast


GravatarOh great, the LA Times just got taken over in a hostile coup by the GOP Machine, and an insane wingnut put in charge over editorial content.

And I was just starting to like that paper for some real reporting they've done in the last few months.

We need to find a way to strip these evil fuckers of their stranglehold positions of control over our mainstream media.

They are hurting America, as Stewart woiuld say, by filling our heads with Rove lies, slander, and propaganda.


GravatarBye, sis! Enjoy the food.

*Mwah!


Gravatar GOOD MORNING!!!


GravatarGOOD MORNING, BLAKNO1!!!


GravatarTime to paint. Be good.


GravatarI love the fact my little sis is finally posting here.

It took like, what, a year?


GravatarMORNING BLAK!!


GravatarWe are gonna name an AIRCRAFT CARRIER after a
ONE TERM PRESIDENT WHO ISN'T DEAD YET???


I'd like to see a list of all the things they've named after republicans in the last 10 years. I bet they've set an all-time record. Talk about a group ego...


GravatarBlakNo1 -- Curly sez, "meow!"
.


GravatarWhy are these guys fixated on "Pelosi marched with head of NAMBLA" bit?



What is this and where did it come from? I couldn't find the link upthread (if there is one).


I didn't post a link because there is no link.

If you look at everybody that's marched in a parade with somebody else I'm sure you'll find that Ghouliani has marched with Sinn Fein.

It's all bullshit trying to cloak the issue.


GravatarOh great, the LA Times just got taken over in a hostile coup by the GOP Machine, and an insane wingnut put in charge over editorial content.

Awww. Just too late. Ain't gonna work.


GravatarGM, Blak and mena!

And Tena!

(I never chime in because I feel like, who gives a shit? Not ever ever meaning to be cold or rude.)


GravatarMorning, one & all!

just occurred to me that notEschaconII would have been perfect with mena, tena, vicki, the Dr., plantsman, Virginia, Echidne, Hecate, and everyone else here this morning. As it was, it was pretty darned good!
ql in ny appalled


Pretty darned good, indeed!


GravatarMena,
I think Blak just showed us a way to get attention!



I won't have to resort to letting my tits gently fall out of my unstrapped bra any more!

Yay!


Gravatarƒ©???¬…

From a Foley IM?
Lime Rickey



New computer. My first desk top. My first real keyboard, instead of the rather cramped keyboard on my laptops.



GravatarBush is at 33 in the polls

and no matter how Alex Wittless tries to spin it
it's not just about Foley


GravatarHi Tena - have you seen zoey posting here at all since the fair weekend? God, I wish we caould all see each other more often.


GravatarI won't have to resort to letting my tits gently fall out of my unstrapped bra any more!

Yay!


Shit.


Gravatar,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


GravatarIt's shocking to Alex Witt that Democrats are trusted more

gee teh Bushco has been lying to the American public for six years and some of it is sneaking through the lying media like this skank


GravatarIt's all bullshit trying to cloak the issue.
HoneyBearKelly? |




Yep and what's so great is that people get that. I don't think all this Repug pointing at everyone else is working too well for them.

Ha ha!

[/nelson]


GravatarI won't have to resort to letting my tits gently fall out of my unstrapped bra any more!

Yay!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I'm afraid this will actually draw a NUMBER of boos.


GravatarBlak!

::giggles::

Okay, just for you...


GravatarI won't have to resort to letting my tits gently fall out of my unstrapped bra any more!

Yay!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


*wakes up* Wha?


GravatarI won't have to resort to letting my tits gently fall out of my unstrapped bra any more!

Yay!
==

You're going to deprive the public of what it wants?


Gravatarmena - Zooey actually has shown up briefly a couple of times and yeah, me too.

I just loved her. And I really enjoyed Woody's other friend a lot, too.

And of course, I wish you lived next door to me.

For real.


GravatarAnyone seen our favorite mouthbreather this morning?
.


GravatarOKay it's made but still too hot to drink. I'll try to work up some wit here and then maybe somebody will say good morning to me.
mena


}}}}hi mena{{{{

feedin the hounds and so missed your entrance...
sorree
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Gravatar*wakes up* Wha?
Gomez


Occasionally, when the comments roll in here, I unhook my bra and allow my ample breasts to spill forth onto the blog.


Gravatar


GravatarAnd of course, I wish you lived next door to me.


And if both of you lived next to me, we'd be in BIG trouble! Blak, too. Visits to the green grocer would be regular.


GravatarI'm thinkin' I might have to scramble some eggies, and broil some toast.
.


GravatarYep and what's so great is that people get that. I don't think all this Repug pointing at everyone else is working too well for them.

Ha ha!

[/nelson]
Tena


The cabloids seem enamored of it, and even NPR is being less than stalwart in reporting the story rather than the spin (they were getting better for awhile).

But the clear indication is, no one is taken in by the GOP whining.


GravatarOccasionally, when the comments roll in here, I unhook my bra and allow my ample breasts to spill forth onto the blog.

Sounds like a winner to me. Or winners.


GravatarHey Woody - kiss. Tena and I were just talking about how much we miss you are your local pals.



Vicki - I bet they make a sound kinda like "blog."


GravatarAnyone seen our favorite mouthbreather this morning?

Whoa. Details?


GravatarVicki - I bet they make a sound kinda like "blog."




GravatarSounds like a winner to me. Or winners.
Gomez

Gomez, for you:

(.) (.)


GravatarIf you can divert yourself for a moment from the high road, Newsweek says Bush is at their all-time low, 33 per cent, and that Foley and Iraq are a one-two national punch that is killing Republican chances of retaining control of Congress.


GravatarIf you can divert yourself for a moment from the high road, Newsweek says Bush is at their all-time low, 33 per cent, and that Foley and Iraq are a one-two national punch that is killing Republican chances of retaining control of Congress.


GravatarBoo-Yah!

Democrats now outdistance Republicans on every single issue that could decide voters' choices come Nov. 7. In addition to winning--for the first time in the NEWSWEEK poll--on the question of which party is more trusted to fight the war on terror (44 to 37 percent) and moral values (42 percent to 36 percent), the Democrats now inspire more trust than the GOP on handling Iraq (47 to 34); the economy (53 to 31); health care (57 to 24); federal spending and the deficit (53 to 29); gas and oil prices (56 to 23); and immigration (43 to 34).


Gravatar...earflaps and pigtails!

Now, that's one toque over the line...


Gravatarbtw, BSG premiere is repeated Monday 11pm for those who missed it


GravatarYou know, this conversation is not helping me work on the sermon I should be writing (first in 5 years; it's almost intimidating).


GravatarMoe Szyslak: Whoa. Details?

Something about buying alcohol for a teenager, I hear...
.


GravatarOh, great, the scold troll Ashlyn's hear to tell us how things really are.

Bite my fucking leg, you dog.


GravatarOh,jeebus. Bucket of ice water, anyone?


Gravatar Oh great, the LA Times just got taken over in a hostile coup by the GOP Machine, and an insane wingnut put in charge over editorial content.

And I was just starting to like that paper for some real reporting they've done in the last few months....

melior | 10.07.06 - 11:27 am | #


Awww. Just too late. Ain't gonna work.
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 11:31 am | #


Bit of a worrisome development out here, true. But I had a thought, maybe the news section will be fairly independent. There is a precedent, of course -- everybody credits the Wall Street Journal with some of the best objective reporting out there, even with a toxic rightwing slime editorial page.

L.A. Times, of course, was very rightwing until about '70. I'm hoping if they were to try to be the SoCal Moonie Times they'd get laughed out of town.


Gravatarhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ ar...MNGF9LJSMM1.DTL

10-06) 04:00 PDT Washington -- A Pentagon project to modify its deadliest nuclear missile for use as a conventional weapon against targets such as North Korea and Iran could unwittingly spark an atomic war, two weapons experts warned Thursday.

Russian military officers might misconstrue a submarine-launched conventional D5 intercontinental ballistic missile and conclude that Russia is under nuclear attack, said Ted Postol, a physicist and professor of science, technology and national security policy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Pavel Podvig, a physicist and weapons specialist at Stanford.

"Any launch of a long-range nonnuclear armed sea or land ballistic missile will cause an automated alert of the Russian early warning system," Postol told reporters.

The triggering of an alert wouldn't necessarily precipitate a retaliatory hail of Russian nuclear missiles, Postol said. Nevertheless, he said, "there can be no doubt that such an alert will greatly increase the chances of a nuclear accident involving strategic nuclear forces."


Unintended consequences. This could be really bad. And I don't think the BushMacht would give Russia a heads up about our possible attacks on either Iran or North Korea.

Just another thing to toss into the worry pot.


GravatarI'm all for seeing more of each other. ooh la la


Gravatar(.) (.)

And my weekend has been made.


GravatarOh Jeffra - around here we just call those hats snowboarders, because that's who wears them.


GravatarRMJ - Well, Dallas News columnist, Sherry Jacobson, sure isn't buy it.
Her column today is captioned: "Foley's clergy abuse claims ring hollow".


Gravatar...(42 percent to 36 percent), the Democrats now inspire more trust than the GOP on handling Iraq (47 to 34); the economy (53 to 31); health care (57 to 24); federal spending and the deficit (53 to 29); gas and oil prices (56 to 23); and immigration (43 to 34).
jac


Aw, hell, let's just call it "pollitics", and get it over with...


GravatarI have a tee shirt idea for trademark Dave.
"Vote For Pedo" with a picture of Foley.


GravatarAnd my weekend has been made.
Gomez


Give me a month or so and I'll really make your weekend.


GravatarIf you can divert yourself for a moment from the high road

Breaking news... to anyone who hasn't been reading this thread, anyway. High road? High horse.
.


GravatarPage's lawyer on tv now.

Page is cooperating with the FBI.


GravatarThat Newsweek poll -

President Fuckwit at 33% approval

"For the first time since 2001, the NEWSWEEK poll shows that more Americans trust the Democrats than the GOP on moral values and the war on terror. Fully 53 percent of Americans want the Democrats to win control of Congress next month, including 10 percent of Republicans, compared to just 35 percent who want the GOP to retain power. If the election were held today, 51 percent of likely voters would vote for the Democrat in their district versus 39 percent who would vote for the Republican. And while the race is closer among male voters (46 percent for the Democrats vs. 42 percent for the Republicans), the Democrats lead among women voters 56 to 34 percent. ...

The scandal’s more significant impact seems to be a widening of the yawning credibility gap developing between the President, his party and the nation. While 52 percent of Americans believe Hastert was aware of Foley’s actions and tried to cover them up, it’s part of a larger loss of faith in Republican leadership, thanks mostly to the war in Iraq. For instance, for the first time in the NEWSWEEK poll, a majority of Americans now believe the Bush administration knowingly misled the American people in building its case for war against Saddam Hussein: 58 percent vs. 36 percent who believe it didn’t. And pessimism over Iraq is at record highs on every score: nearly two in three Americans, 64 percent, believe the United States is losing ground there; 66 percent say the war has not made America safer from terrorism (just 29 percent believe it has); and 53 percent believe it was a mistake to go to war at all, again the first time the NEWSWEEK poll has registered a majority in that camp. ...

Democrats now outdistance Republicans on every single issue that could decide voters’ choices come Nov. 7. In addition to winning—for the first time in the NEWSWEEK poll—on the question of which party is more trusted to fight the war on terror (44 to 37 percent) and moral values (42 percent to 36 percent), the Democrats now inspire more trust than the GOP on handling Iraq (47 to 34); the economy (53 to 31); health care (57 to 24); federal spending and the deficit (53 to 29); gas and oil prices (56 to 23); and immigration (43 to 34).
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1516.../site/newsweek/


GravatarJoin the Bush Heritage Project!

We are out there trying to get jails, mental hospitals, and garbage dumps named after
43 in all 50 states!
flint | 10.

So far citizens in Iraq have been much more receptive to the idea....
But Americans are beginning to warm to the concept!


GravatarNew computer. My first desk top. My first real keyboard, instead of the rather cramped keyboard on my laptops.


Tena | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 11:32 am | #

I went the other way, from bulky desktops to a Mac laptop. Still, I have the wireless keyboard, real mouse, second LCD monitor, and stand for laptop (don't like the tiny keyboard either).


GravatarSome of the Kos family bloggers are saying that the Establishment let this Foley mess come out right now because they have given up on the 'thuglicans and are throwing them under the bus/limo/hummer/whatever. Well...Do you remember all the renewed Abramoff revelations coming out *just before* this Foleygate business hit the fan? The reports that contacts between Abe and the *White House* including Karl Rove were more extensive than originally admitted? (Note Rove staffer Susan Ralston resignation just yesterday.) Note the distraction now away from Abe-scam?

So, who is maybe throwing who under a bus? Don't you smell a roving rat here?


GravatarI'm all for seeing more of each other. ooh la la
maf54


This was funny, given the nym from which it came.


GravatarAnyone seen our favorite mouthbreather this morning?

Explains a lot.


GravatarDemocrats now outdistance Republicans on every single issue that could decide voters' choices come Nov. 7.

Chimpy'll turn that around with his stumpwise speeches.


GravatarHigh horse.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian


. . . she rode in on.


GravatarGive me a month or so and I'll really make your weekend.

I am so there.


GravatarRobert - the good thing Jacobson does is to also explode this idea that because Foley is gay that is an excuse. She spends most of the column on that.

Basically, she ain't having any of it and she's thoroughly disgusted with the whole thing.


GravatarJeffraham,

Ashlyn is of the Ted Baiamonte school of trolldom. Ted.E.Us.


GravatarIf you can divert yourself for a moment from the high road, Newsweek says Bush is at their all-time low, 33 per cent, and that Foley and Iraq are a one-two national punch that is killing Republican chances of retaining control of Congress.

Yeah, we got that, bitch. And now we've moved on. Feel free to do so yourself...right into traffic.


GravatarOh great, the LA Times just got taken over in a hostile coup by the GOP Machine, and an insane wingnut put in charge over editorial content.

that's not quite right, iirc...

LAT was bought by the Tribune Group (Chi Trib, ChiCubs, and a LOTTA fuukin media properties) from the Chandler heirs about two years ago...
fired Bob Sheer, hired Doughy Pantload...that's the group
the former publishedr refused to make further cut in the newsroom, and tried to hold up Trib management for concessions...
they fired him yestiddy...
RIP, LAT...once a great newspaper, now just another GOPuke asswipe...
.


Gravatar "Foley's clergy abuse claims ring hollow".
Tena


Ring? I didn't hear any kind of ring at all, especially not the ring of truth. More of a moist "plop", actually...


GravatarI am so there.
Gomez


Cool!


Gravatarplantsman, do you have the tall candle sconces from Jugtown?

I swear I must know you from the distant past.

Cheers.


GravatarOccasionally, when the comments roll in here, I unhook my bra and allow my ample breasts to spill forth onto the blog.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore





looks like I got here just in time


GravatarIf you can di--

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...


Gravatardidnt they name a landfill after Marvin Bush already?


Gravatar10% of Republicans want the Democrats to win control Congress next month.

"Stop us! Stop us, please God!"
-


GravatarNTodd,

How's the sap?


GravatarRing? I didn't hear any kind of ring at all, especially not the ring of truth. More of a moist "plop", actually...
Elmer, PHD


That was just Vicki's tits.


GravatarRMJ - Well, Dallas News columnist, Sherry Jacobson, sure isn't buy it.
Her column today is captioned: "Foley's clergy abuse claims ring hollow".
Tena


Well, there's the highly technical fact that there is no causal relationship (somebody was posting those stats earlier).

And then there's the: "Whatever happened to that claim?" No follow-up makes us all suspicious it was just an excuse of convenience.

And then everybody starts to think, "Hey, that was damned convenient, wasn't it? When it trouble, blame a priest!" Yeah, that's the ticket.

And while Denny said "We" take responsibility, everyone knows that means no one is taking responsibility. What difference did that make, anyway, since he immediately went back to blaming the Democrats?

Stick a fork in 'em, the GOP's done.


GravatarSo, who is maybe throwing who under a bus? Don't you smell a roving rat here?

O yeah - Karl Rove is a genius!

I'm worried, people...


GravatarSo, who is maybe throwing who under a bus? Don't you smell a roving rat here?

If the GOP loses Congress, Bush is fucked. And the Dems can then followup on the Abramoff thing in Articles of Impeachment.

How's the sap?

Flowing like sweet, sweet wine!


GravatarMarvin Gardens


Gravatar I have a tee shirt idea for trademark Dave.
"Vote For Pedo" with a picture of Foley.
Irving R. Feldman | 10.07.06 - 11:42 am | #


What's this about Dave Foley???

Oh. Skimmed it too fast.

Hey, how about a skit where Rep. Foley trolls down at the YMCA in a gallant, Ronald Colman kind of way?

'Whatever, freak!'


GravatarOh great, the LA Times just got taken over in a hostile coup by the GOP Machine, and an insane wingnut put in charge over editorial content.
Melior @ 11:27

When I read the the Carlyle Group had a role in putting the Knight-Ridder chain in play, I theorized there was absolutely a plan to neuter any press which had been reporting actual facts.

Just my little conspiracy theory--probably debunked. Then, again, look at the results....

Oh, and g'day to all you Atriots.


GravatarRuppert posts under his real name? No one does that. Well, except me.


GravatarSo, who is maybe throwing who under a bus? Don't you smell a roving rat here?
Neil'


No.

Every Ponzi scheme collapses of its own weight eventually.


Gravatar didnt they name a landfill after Marvin Bush already?
maf54


They named a herpes strain after Neil Bush.


GravatarOccasionally, when the comments roll in here, I unhook my bra and allow my ample breasts to spill forth onto the blog.

Strom was impressed I could type with my nipples, hit the esc key with my auxiliary nipple, and give him a hand job all at the same time.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarMy balls are going to be named after George W. Bush


GravatarFlowing like sweet, sweet wine!


Good! I'm so happy for you and ... umm ... not to say too much.


Gravatarmike - I still have my laptop, but Apple has it at the moment. I'm having to replace the entire keyboard.

The A key fell off yesterday, and that's what started all of this movement that ended in my getting a new iMac.

All I've ever had were laptops and I love them, but this is amazing.


GravatarSo, who is maybe throwing who under a bus? Don't you smell a roving rat here?
==

Given the stench it's impossible to tell anymore which rat stinks worst, but we're definitely watching some rats fucking some other rats over really well. My wish is for it to get out of hand so we'll be forced to go in and fumigate.


GravatarRuppert posts under his real name? No one does that.
Moe Szyslak


Shit. I've been doing it all wrong.


GravatarVisits to the green grocer would be regular.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore 11:36 am


i'd be your 'go-to' guy...

my produce is usually pretty decent and almost fresh...
.


GravatarRIP, LAT...once a great newspaper, now just another GOPuke asswipe...

Ummmmmmm... when was this, exactly?

It's been a GOP asswipe forever.

Otis gave it a little more depth, but he always - ALWAYS - had to fight the rest of the family on the political end, and usually lost.

BTW, Otis' most lasting contribution, IMHO, was the hiring of Paul Conrad as editorial cartoonist.


GravatariMacs are nice. Not too bulky a choice, then


GravatarGood! I'm so happy for you and ...

Who, the Maple Tapper?


GravatarRMJ,

What's interesting about this scandal is that it hit them, blindsided, which is why their message management has been so incompetent.

It really shows us just how orchestrated their message machine is when it's working, and when it's not working - they're the biggest bunch of incompetent fuck-ups in the history of the USA.


GravatarMy balls are going to be named after George W. Bush



why skip? are they dried up and useless?


GravatarRobert - the good thing Jacobson does is to also explode this idea that because Foley is gay that is an excuse. She spends most of the column on that.

Basically, she ain't having any of it and she's thoroughly disgusted with the whole thing.
Tena


Wonder how Paul Burka is excusing it?


Gravatari'd be your 'go-to' guy...

Good, I'm sick of being the only one who "knows someone".


GravatarWho, the Maple Tapper?


Yeah...the receptacle, like that.


GravatarI'm worried, people...

Worried, I tells ya - WORRIED!

Focus, people, FOCUS!!!


GravatarGood! I'm so happy for you and ...

Who, the Maple Tapper?
NTodd4


Jake's sister?


GravatarMarvin Gardens
maf54 | 10.07.06 - 11:47 am | #


name of a pot club in Guerneville California


Gravatar RIP, LAT...once a great newspaper, now just another GOPuke asswipe...
.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitarron | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 11:44 am | #


Well, as I said, maybe they'll pull a WSJ and the straight news will still be fairly responsible.

I don't think they would last long out here with a front page that looked like it came out of the NewsMax newsroom. So they'd have to be subtle about it. And how would that make them diff. than the WaPo, or NPR?

Here's hoping the sheer weight of the facts, anyhow, is about to cause the appeasing press to backtrack out of sheer humiliation.


GravatarIt really shows us just how orchestrated their message machine is when it's working, and when it's not working - they're the biggest bunch of incompetent fuck-ups in the history of the USA.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


True, dat. Was bound to catch up with 'em, too. Murphy's Law says it should happen about now.

Good ol' Murphy.


Gravatar"Vote For Pedo" with a picture of Foley.
==

Heehee!


GravatarWe are out there trying to get jails, mental hospitals, and garbage dumps named after
43 in all 50 states!
flint | 10.


In other news tonight, we have reports that "Precinct 43"s in major cities from coast to coast have petitioned their respective City Halls for a new designation, such as "Precinct 42a"...


GravatarWhat's interesting about this scandal is that it hit them, blindsided, which is why their message management has been so incompetent.

It really shows us just how orchestrated their message machine is when it's working, and when it's not working - they're the biggest bunch of incompetent fuck-ups in the history of the USA.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


And why? Susan Ralston is in charge of message crafting.

And she's been preoccupied with her looming indictment.

QED.


GravatarBTW, am I the only one who thinks of his performance in "Apocalypse Now" when that retirement fund ad with Dennis Hopper comes on the radio?

"How are you gonna retire with fractions, man? You can't play 3/5ths of a shuffleboard - that's dialectics, man!"


GravatarO yeah - Karl Rove is a genius!

I'm worried, people...
Tena


We're done for, we're done for!

(And now back to the Gospel of Mark...)


GravatarSo, is this an Intel-iMac, Tena?


GravatarThere used to be a rule ya had to be DEAD to be on money, or have a ship or a building named after you. It was "temporarily suspended" for Raygun,'cause he was sick.

Shows ya what's gonna happen with the other"temporarily suspended" rules and laws.


GravatarHey, how is that Republican negative ad buy working out?

Anybody know?

heh. heh.


Gravatarthey're the biggest bunch of incompetent fuck-ups in the history of the USA.
==

They really are buffoons. Boobs, even.


GravatariMacs are nice. Not too bulky a choice, then
Mike


Gosh, no.

A 17 inch screen and a keyboard.

They transferred the data from my laptop and all I had to do was take this out of the box, plug it in and that was that.

Wish dave™® wasn't here - I'd say how damn much I love macs.



GravatarMan, on my job interview I'd LOVE to use the Foleygate example of incompetent message management - it is so ripe for the taking - I'd get the job in seconds flat when I point out all the mis-steps - but damned if the politics of the whole thing don't fuck it up for me.


GravatarWish dave™® wasn't here - I'd say how damn much I love macs.

At those prices, you'd better!


GravatarSorry kids, but I refuse to count my chickens before they hatch on the morning of November 8th. If that gets me branded as a worry-wart, so be it.


GravatarWish dave™® wasn't here - I'd say how damn much I love macs.


Tena


Say it, saaaayyyyy it!

Macs rule!


GravatarHey, how is that Republican negative ad buy working out?

Anybody know?

heh. heh.


Not to state the obvious, but...

Not. too. well.


GravatarDuring the 80's I had a lot of friends who went through rehab and various 12 step programs and I think Foley's confessions are part of the rehab process --especially ..the I am gay issue. Perhaps once he has been through therapy and the courts he like McGreevy will talk about why it is wrong to be in the closet and to expect others to remain in the closet for our convenience.


GravatarI hear ya Blak


I also wonder what kind of shit will be pulled between Nov and Jan if the houses are turned over.


GravatarSay it, saaaayyyyy it!
==

Virginia - I think you have to waggle your fist when you say that.


GravatarA 17 inch screen and a keyboard.

They transferred the data from my laptop and all I had to do was take this out of the box, plug it in and that was that.


Gee, my computer came with 19 inch flat screen and keyboard... and a mouse!

And a 250GB hard drive.

Took it out of the box, started it up, and it just worked.

Cost $500, brand new.


Gravatarplantsman - no. I didn't need that - and they run about a thousand higher than this one.

This is the midrange imac with a 17 inch screen.


GravatarSorry kids, but I refuse to count my chickens before they hatch on the morning of November 8th. If that gets me branded as a worry-wart, so be it.
BlakNo1


I'm with ya. I am not going to get my hopes up -- couldn't take the disappointment, yet again.

I am very cautiously optimistic, but bearing in mind that my party is not particularly, shall we say, adept these days.


GravatarAhem - I have a mouse, dave. It came with it.

The package is complete.


GravatarThey really are buffoons. Boobs, even.
mena



love it when you talk naughty ~(o:{


Gravatarfumigate.

Mena,

Or perhaps Fumi-Gate?

What a fine name for both the meta-scandal that is the Republican Party, and the cure for same.

Fumi-Gate.

Spell it. Learn it. Use it in a sentence.


GravatarMan, on my job interview I'd LOVE to use the Foleygate example of incompetent message management - it is so ripe for the taking - I'd get the job in seconds flat when I point out all the mis-steps...

Massage it... keep it technical. It's a very good example.


GravatarTook it out of the box, started it up, and it just worked.


That's great dave; the fact that you're chained to Bill and Melinda for eternity, not so much.


GravatarThe package is complete.

NO FLIRTING!!!


GravatarYup--Republican staff will take Republican shaft.

It will turn out that none of the staff shaftees will have done their jobs and informed their representatives of what they knew.

Yeah, riiiigggggghhhtttt.

They will resign, perhaps be prosecuted, but will get nice private sector jobs if they keep their mouths shut and avoid embarrassing the elected Rethugs.


Gravatardriftglass - I like! But does it make us haters? *finger to chin*


Gravatarmorning, peeps. evangelica teens leaving church in droves.

perhaps they should offer them more ice cream.


GravatarI built a computer with a 21" screen and a 300 GB drive out of $2.37 worth of tofu. And had enough left over to feed a family of ten.


GravatarThe Atrios foul-mouthed contributions---a fugue for tinhorns?

With such coarse, though plebian, attitudes and language is it any wonder that Democrats have seized the lead as defenders of family values?
But you're letting premature success go to your groin.


GravatarVirginia - I think you have to waggle your fist when you say that.
mena


No, I'm the peaceable type; I was just entreating, not threatening!

Speaking of loving my Mac, I need to use it to do some fucking homework.

Love you lunatics! See you anon.


GravatarThat's great dave; the fact that you're chained to Bill and Melinda for eternity, not so much.

Isn't that the new Mac selling point?


GravatarI had a lot of friends who went through rehab and various 12 step programs and I think Foley's confessions are part of the rehab process --especially ..the I am gay issue.

I am pretty familiar with the rehab process/12 Step Programs.

I think that both Foley and Gibson are using rehab as a screen to cover for their bigger issues.

I have not known anyone in AA who has worked the Program who will jump out and make amends on Day 4. It takes a while to "get" the Program. If you're a daily drinker, for example, the suggestion is 90 meetings in 90 days, more meetings a day if you need them. The goal, first and foremost at the very start, is to do whatever necessary to not drink. You can start working the Steps immediately, of course, but recovery is not an overnight process...it's slow, and progressive. That's why the one year marker is so huge to recovering alcoholics - only 8% of the people get to that point who enter AA.

So automatic recovery simply, in my mind, isn't feasible.


GravatarBut you're letting premature success go to your groin.

You make my groin grow large and groan with the ache of love. It would very much like to meet yours.


GravatarSorry kids, but I refuse to count my chickens before they hatch on the morning of November 8th. If that gets me branded as a worry-wart, so be it.
BlakNo1


thou and i both, brother...

when the votes are tallied, and they show the repudiatiation of the whole puke infrastructure wil i believe it...

by the way: Vote GOPedophiliac
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GravatarThey're all blenders, kids. Or as Dick Clark once said: "It's like arguing the difference between hot dogs and hamburgers. Who the hell cares?"


GravatarLittle Ricky: "Can't we get in on some of this page action?"

Macaca Boy: "They don't respond to dog whistles."


GravatarWell, I am typing on a pc and have never owned a mac, but what would happen to the universal order if I got mac laptop and had one of each? Would I go insane? Would markets collapse? WOULD IT BRING DOWN YOU-KNOW-WHO??


GravatarWith such coarse, though plebian, attitudes and language is it any wonder that Democrats have seized the lead as defenders of family values?
But you're letting premature success go to your groin.


Ashlyn, you of the twee name and pretensions,
who said "Go Fuck yourself!" and "Adam Clymer's a major-league asshole" ?


GravatarMust...resist...getting drawn into Mac/PC argument yet again...


GravatarYou make my groin grow large and groan with the ache of love. It would very much like to meet yours.

I think I saw that movie, "How Groin Was My Valley"


GravatarOk, let's recap:

Number 1 - the Repug money machine is broken, since Abramoff and his buddies are out of play.

Number 2 - everyone hates the Chimp, except for the functioning insane.

Number 3 - Not a few of the top Repugs are under indictment or worse

Number 4 - the Iraq War is just worse and worse every day.

We have a chance here. I'm particularly happy about the Repug money machine being out of order. However, I'm still pissed off that redistricting in Texas hasn't been overturned, and that hurts us here.


GravatarI like! But does it make us haters?

I hate the game, not the playas.

Of course, in the Party of God these are one in the same....


GravatarIs it me, or is Lawrence O'Donnell saying Hastert is gay?

If Fordham did warn Palmer about Foley a long time ago, what are the odds that Palmer did not tell Hastert? As close to zero as you can get. Many chiefs of staff are close, very close, to their bosses on Capitol Hill. But none are closer than Scott Palmer is to Denny Hastert. They don't just work together all day, they live together.

There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual. But it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch up on. And then there's breakfast for anything they forgot to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there's all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more than any other co-workers in the Congress.


Gravatar...what would happen to the universal order if I got mac laptop and had one of each? Would I go insane? Would markets collapse?

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER!!!


GravatarThey're all blenders, kids. Or as Dick Clark once said: "It's like arguing the difference between hot dogs and hamburgers. Who the hell cares?"

As long as it works, it works for me.


GravatarDOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER!!!
dave™© | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:03 pm | #


All ye cats and dogs rejoice! Ye slimey things, come hither...


GravatarTena,

I watched the governor's debate last night. I think the Dem candidate came off well. Kinky was a disappointment. GoodHair is too pretty to be a manly man from Texas.


GravatarSo automatic recovery simply, in my mind, isn't feasible.
==

Maybe it works that way with automatic addictions. These are busy guys, after all.


GravatarActually, I'm typing right now on a Coleco ADAM... and playing Donkey Kong at the same time.

Suck it, loosers!!!


Gravatar Little Ricky: "Can't we get in on some of this page action?"

Macaca Boy: "They don't respond to dog whistles."


LOL


GravatarYou see, if we didn't live in Bizarro World I'd be convinced that the Toasters were going down in flames.


GravatarAlex Witt's shift has ended. Contessa (none too bright) Brewer now up.


GravatarAnother Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan today.


GravatarMaybe it works that way with automatic addictions. These are busy guys, after all.
mena


Easy come addiction, easy go addiction - like that?

I don't know...


GravatarCost $500, brand new.
dave™©


And then you gotta buy anti-virus software, and utilities to make it work because Microsoft based programs always screw up, and...

The $$ has only just begun....


GravatarVicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 10.07.06 - 12:00 pm | #
thanks for the detail

I guess it would have been better if he said he was a proud gay man


GravatarIn the law Bush signed Wednesday, Congress stated no one but the privacy officer could alter, delay or prohibit the mandatory annual report on Homeland Security department activities that affect privacy, including complaints.

But Bush, in a signing statement attached to the agency's 2007 spending bill, said he will interpret that section "in a manner consistent with the President's constitutional authority to supervise the unitary executive branch."

Spork

Has anyone seen American Blackout?


GravatarI built a computer with a 21" screen and a 300 GB drive out of $2.37 worth of tofu. And had enough left over to feed a family of ten.

I built mine out of spun protein I precipitated out of the air. Feeds thirty, cured the Wilson boy of the croup and now I have erections lasted 3 hours and 59 minutes.

Of course you tell that to kids today and they won't believe you...


Gravatar"One Iraq is bad enough," said Bruce Hoffman, a counterinsurgency expert at Georgetown University. "Given that our two main theaters of operations aren't going well, one has to question how well the U.S. understands counterinsurgency."

D'oh.

From NTodd's two quagmires for the price of one:

http://www.dohiyimir.org/


GravatarI also fault the 24/7 cable "news" station idea itself.

With so much time to fill, they use these rumors to fill time, and to keep viewers with more titillating charges.

But they have no business repeating any of these rumors until they have proof, but with so much competition and time to fill, they get temped into being sloppy and craven.

Not to excuse them, but 24 hours is a LOT OF EMPTY TIME.


GravatarOmigod!!! US Pols now think Fidel Castro has terminal cancer and will never return to power!

Well, duh.


Gravatar"Well, I am typing on a pc and have never owned a mac, but what would happen to the universal order if I got mac laptop and had one of each?"

I'm planning on upgrading to a Macbook Pro once Leopard comes out. With an extra 30" screen on the side. As I recall, the machine can handle two of these. Put the laptop in the middle and have a 6 foot desktop. Why waste time?


Gravatardenny is gay? ick. someone really needs to remind him that fat like his just isn't fabulous. perhaps that's why he has to sleep with his employees, even the meth whores in boystown have some standards.


GravatarIsn't Steve Jobs a majority stockholder with Disney?

I don't recall hearing a single peep out of him about "Path up Dubya's Ass".


GravatarWell, I am typing on a pc and have never owned a mac, but what would happen to the universal order if I got mac laptop and had one of each? Would I go insane? Would markets collapse? WOULD IT BRING DOWN YOU-KNOW-WHO??
mena


Zuul and the dark overlords? (you could give it a try


Gravatarmasculine_monica_nyc...

If you want/need deets on tonight/tomorrow, please email me at resipsaloquitur_2004 at yahoo dot com.


GravatarI built mine out of spun protein I precipitated out of the air.



LFoD just popped into my head.


GravatarAVG anti-virus, Spybot and Spyware Blaster are completely free and work as well, if not better, than anything you can buy.


Gravatarcotton candy ... it's not just for pantie hose anymore!


GravatarAnd then you gotta buy anti-virus software...

Nope. Using the virus/firewall that came with DSL. No viruses and

...and utilities to make it work because Microsoft based programs always screw up...

Nope. The few Microsoft programs I use (mainly Powerpoint and Word, for work) run just fine. Windows XP has run just fine.

I dislike Microsoft as much as I dislike Apple - both want a monopoly and run by power-hungry meglomaniacs - but I'm having no problem either with this computer, or the virtual twin I bought for my wife.


GravatarI can only post 3,000 characters here, so the comma thing doesn't work:

4,000 Iraqi police killed in past two years: U.S.

BAGHDAD — About 4,000 Iraqi police have been killed and more than 8,000 wounded in the past two years, the U.S. commander in charge of police training said, but he said the force's performance was improving and officials are working to weed out militiamen.


GravatarLFoD just popped into my head.
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Was that the I-built-this-town-out-of-tofu troll? I pay so little attention to them, but I remember that. I bet he wears one of those hats.


GravatarGrooooiiiiiinnnnn Acres is the place to be....


GravatarIsn't Steve Jobs a majority stockholder with Disney?

Due to his prior ownership position at Pixar; and he's fighting pancreatic cancer now, so he may not
have the strength to be fully politically engaged.


Gravatar ...what would happen to the universal order if I got mac laptop and had one of each? Would I go insane? Would markets collapse?

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER!!!


Now look what you did! Are you happy now? Huh?


GravatarGood afternoon, everybody -- Apple crisp autumn day here in rural central Ohio. My favorite time of year.
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GravatarI dislike Microsoft as much as I dislike Apple - both want a monopoly and run by power-hungry meglomaniacs

Yup.


Gravatar"Our growing economy is not producing a growing middle class, but a richer aristocracy.

The high point for median household income -- the income of the household in the middle -- was $47,671 in 1999, adjusted for inflation. In 2005, median household income was $1,345 less at $46,326. In the same period, the Forbes 400 gained more than 100 billionaires.

Government policies are fueling rising inequality. Taxpayers with incomes above $1 million will see their after-tax income grow by about 6 percent this year thanks to tax cuts the nation can't afford.

In an economy where money is flowing up to the very top, even college-educated workers are going backward. Inflation-adjusted median household income was lower in 2005 than 1999 even when the householder had a bachelor's degree, master's degree, professional degree or doctorate.

The problem is much bigger than the rich getting richer, while the poor get poorer. The really rich are getting richer at the expense of most everyone else."
http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/c...-10/ 04sklar.cfm

Someone should organize a Class Warfare Party.
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GravatarGrooooiiiiiinnnnn Acres is the place to be....
==

Thank you for reminding me I was looking for something to throw at spinoza....


GravatarTena,

I watched the governor's debate last night. I think the Dem candidate came off well. Kinky was a disappointment. GoodHair is too pretty to be a manly man from Texas.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore


I didn't. I'm ashamed, but BSG was on, and then The Wire, which we missed last week and then Real Time, which I could have skipped.

Anyway, the Dallas paper had good things to say about Chris Bell, too. They did point out that his weakness is the same as Kerry's - he's too smart and has the answers and they are too detailed.

What the fuck? How did this become a "weakness"?


Gravatar...by the way: Vote GOPedophiliac
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WoodyGuthrie'sGuitarron


The GOPeds! Has a ring to it.


Gravatar fighting pancreatic cancer now

Oh.


Gravatardenny is gay? ick.
chicago dyke


There have been repeated hints that another "senior Republican in leadership" was to be outed.

Those paragraphs walk right up to the closet door without opening it.


GravatarThank you for reminding me I was looking for something to throw at spinoza....

Money would do for a start.


GravatarWhat the fuck? How did this become a "weakness"?


I don't know. I had someone tell me the other day that even though Al Gore is smart and experienced, he doesn't possess the leadership skills that Bush has.
???

The mind never ceases to amuse me...


GravatarI dislike Microsoft as much as I dislike Apple - both want a monopoly and run by power-hungry meglomaniacs - but I'm having no problem either with this computer, or the virtual twin I bought for my wife.
dave™©


I've used nothing but PC's, and had various problems with them. Apples may be foolproof, for all I know.

But I suspect the cost works out to be the same between them. And I find many people have more trouble with computers than they should. My father has his worked on about once a year, but then he knows about as much about computers as he does his telephone. And he uses them both for the same purpose: phone calls on the latter, e-mails on the former.

But the telephone doesn't need to be repaired once a year to keep working. Even cars now (or did; do they still?) have 100,000 mile warranties. Computers? Just hope you can get it home, Jack.


GravatarNATO soldier was 40th Canadian to die in Afghanistan: report


Gravatar Chris Bell, too. They did point out that his weakness is the same as Kerry's - he's too smart and has the answers and they are too detailed.

What the fuck? How did this become a "weakness"?
Tena


Always has been. Talk over the average bozo's head, abd he'll vote for the other guy every time...


GravatarDubya has leadership skills?


GravatarI dislike Microsoft as much as I dislike Apple - both want a monopoly and run by power-hungry meglomaniacs

Yup.
BlakNo1


Totally agree.

So I base my decision on the computer rather than the CEO of the corporation.

This is my choice.

I respect dave's ™® choice.


GravatarKenosha,

There is a pre-dinner drink thing tonight at 4 PM. Do you want me to email you the details?


GravatarHaving used unix for years, the ability to open a terminal window and do complicated find commands thru grep filters and such and open all the resulting files in BBEdit is one thing I like a lot about macs. I suppose one might do the same in windows.


Gravatar the force's performance was improving

"Improving" means staying alive for more than a month.


GravatarThe best response to that Pelosi-NAMBLA garbage is simply "Prove it. Show us a picture of the two of them marching together. And if you can't, STFU."


GravatarI deplore and reject the insinuation that Big Denny is gay*.

I accept his explanation that the Posterior Penis Pin is a universally recognized classic Greco-Roman wrestling hold, is generally taught in private coaching sessions, and requires extensive practice to master.

*Not that there's anything wrong with it.


GravatarDubya has leadership skills?
BlakNo1
==

Skillz. Mad ones.


GravatarIs anyone else out there having problems with Comcast crashing today?


GravatarAnyway, the Dallas paper had good things to say about Chris Bell, too. They did point out that his weakness is the same as Kerry's - he's too smart and has the answers and they are too detailed.

What the fuck? How did this become a "weakness"?
Tena


Dunno, but for some reason voters all seem to agree with Julie Brown: they like 'em big and stupid.

Me, I don't get it.


Gravatar...by the way: Vote GOPedophiliac
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WoodyGuthrie'sGuitarron

The GOPeds! Has a ring to it.
Elmer, PHD

Once again, "Vote For Pedo"


Gravatar There is a pre-dinner drink thing tonight at 4 PM. Do you want me to email you the details?

OK though I might be too lazy to get there.


GravatarBingo, Rmj! Which explains my ancient phone-line powered Touch-Tone. Even when the power goes out, it usually works.


GravatarHas anyone seen American Blackout?
masculine_monica_nyc | 10.07.06 - 12:06 pm

No, but thanks much for bringing it to our attention. Trailer is great.

We should start an Eschaton Cinema Club--virtual, like.


GravatarWork, gonna happen. Really.


Gravatarparaphrasing an interview with Senator John Warner

Q Who made the mistakes in Iraq
A I blame myself and Tommy Frank for being arrogant white men who think they know everything


GravatarRmj: And then you gotta buy anti-virus software, and utilities to make it work because Microsoft based programs always screw up, and...

Um... not unless one is brainless, no.
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Gravatar"Our growing economy is not producing a growing middle class, but a richer aristocracy.

That was the whole point of it. They are trying their best to drag us back to the Gilded Age.

Ultimately, what's so dumb about that is that the reaction is always going to be about as extreme as what it's the reaction to. So they pull us back to this unfettered capitalism model, where a handful of uber-wealthy families control everything, and they are asking for a real socialist revolution in response.

Where do they imagine that FDR came from? Out of nowhere? This is what comes of having a bunch of basically illiterate MBAs in charge.


GravatarI accept his explanation that the Posterior Penis Pin is a universally recognized classic Greco-Roman wrestling hold, is generally taught in private coaching sessions, and requires extensive practice to master.
Little Brøther




GravatarIs anyone else out there having problems with Comcast crashing today?

I'm not, but you've been having this stuff for hours now. Is it bad enought to weather a phone call to them?


GravatarIs anyone else out there having problems with Comcast crashing today?

Nope, it's either a local infrastructure problem in your area or your cable modem needs replacing, especially if it's one of those Motorola "surfboards".


GravatarBingo, Rmj! Which explains my ancient phone-line powered Touch-Tone. Even when the power goes out, it usually works.
plantsman, lowercase


Got one that looks like a phone from the '40's (unfortunately sans dial; those were the days!). Keep it just so it'll work when the power is out.

Always does.


GravatarBingo, Rmj! Which explains my ancient phone-line powered Touch-Tone. Even when the power goes out, it usually works.
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I love to tell the youngsters about The Old Days, when people leased the same phone for pretty much a lifetime, and repairmen would come to your house to work on them on the rare occasion of a problem. They narrow their eyes trying to imagine it.


GravatarSorry, not to bitch, it's just that Comcast here keeps falling into an Error message. Weird.

Oh well.

I have to say I LOVE the high speed.


GravatarThe best response to that Pelosi-NAMBLA garbage is simply "Prove it. Show us a picture of the two of them marching together. And if you can't, STFU."
Ridnik Chrome - 12:15 pm


I rather like saying that the NAMBLA fellow is a Republican and that Pelosi is showing bipartisanship.

Don't know if it's true but make them show it's not. They will probably shut up about it and move on to a new talking point.


GravatarAnother film to look for is "Idiocracy."


GravatarI'm barely old enough to remember when phones were damn near indestructable.


GravatarMy windows PCs are old (Win 9. I just tried to select some text from a browser window and drag it into Ultraedit. It didn't work. Does that work in XP? (works on a mac)


GravatarI love to tell the youngsters about The Old Days, when people leased the same phone for pretty much a lifetime, and repairmen would come to your house to work on them on the rare occasion of a problem. They narrow their eyes trying to imagine it.

And Ma Bell checked the line voltage to make sure you didn't have an illegal extension.


GravatarI respect dave's ™® choice.

Fueled by the fact that I'm a cheap bastard!

Seriously, I haunted the daily Fry's ads for nearly two months before I bought this computer...


GravatarWell, three of five are clean and dressed--and we were supposed to be ut the door ten minutes ago.

Luckily, I'm a leadfoot.


GravatarComputers? Just hope you can get it home, Jack.
Rmj, Street Credentialed |


Competition has forced the mfgs to use rock-bottom components, which was not always the case. There are $39.00 motherboards, and there are $399.00 motherboards. Which one you think is in that $299.00 E-Machine, or that $349.00 Dell?


GravatarTerminal, other than installing and compiling new software, computer interfaces are all about the eye candy these days.

Linux users for a disorenting experience, install beryl with KDE. Just turn the wobblies off. They made me seasick.


GravatarRmj: And then you gotta buy anti-virus software, and utilities to make it work because Microsoft based programs always screw up, and...

Um... not unless one is brainless, no.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Colour me brainless, then.

What, you think every PC user is computer programmer or a geek? Most people use it the way I do: for e-mail and internet browsing.

This computer has been more stable than most I've had, which seems to mean the OS (windows) has been improved (finally!), but I've had beaucoup hardware problems, too.

I can learn to repair a car (marginally; I prefer the pre-computer, pre-pollution equipment MG), but I don't want to learn to be a Geek Squad member just to read the news on the Internet.

Got better things to do with my time than learn the ins and outs of a computer.


GravatarOkay, I need to get some things done. I'll check back after I complete each task, just to make the day a bit more fun. As I've done many times before.

Love these weekends when the only thing beckoning me is toilet bowler cleaner and a scrub brush.


Gravatarwhen people leased the same phone for pretty much a lifetime, and repairmen would come to your house to work on them on the rare occasion of a problem.

You could use them as weapons then. Hevy as hell.


GravatarWhere do they imagine that FDR came from? Out of nowhere? This is what comes of having a bunch of basically illiterate MBAs in charge.
==

I agree. Now let's hope we survive what they've done to revive the antitrust and fairness laws and repair the economy, and let's hope it doesn't require major depression and world war to get there. Bastards.


GravatarLuckily, I'm a leadfoot.


Just be safe!


GravatarIs anyone else out there having problems with Comcast crashing today?

I'm not, but you've been having this stuff for hours now. Is it bad enought to weather a phone call to them?
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:18 pm | #

Is anyone else out there having problems with Comcast crashing today?

Nope, it's either a local infrastructure problem in your area or your cable modem needs replacing, especially if it's one of those Motorola "surfboards".
BlakNo1


Comcast could not keep me online no matter what. I forced them to give me a new modem and that didn't solve it either.

I switched to Earthlink DSL, finally. At least they can keep me online. My comcast connection went kablooie about every 10 minutes and the best they could come up with as an explanation was "something in my area."


GravatarI love to tell the youngsters about The Old Days, when people leased the same phone for pretty much a lifetime, and repairmen would come to your house to work on them on the rare occasion of a problem. They narrow their eyes trying to imagine it.
mena




My wife and I both worked for BellSouth at one time. Our running joke:

"When we were little, you only had one phone in the house - and it was hard-wired into the wall.

And when it rang, you didn't even know who was calling until you picked it up.

And if you weren't home? You didn't even know anyone had called."


GravatarSeriously, I haunted the daily Fry's ads for nearly two months before I bought this computer...
dave™©


That's a form of Russian Roulette...


GravatarActually, FDR saved their bacon. He ame out of their class, but by spreading around the benefits of capitalism, he avoided a Russian Revolution sort of situation.


GravatarSorry, not to bitch, it's just that Comcast here keeps falling into an Error message. Weird.

Oh well.

I have to say I LOVE the high speed.
Vicki,


So you have Internet access, but your email is returning an error?

Then it's just their mail server acting up.


GravatarOkay, off to meet unka smokes and spork.

Have a nice y'all.


GravatarLuckily, I'm a leadfoot.
==

Speed Demon Mama!


GravatarOh, I'm safe, Vicki. I drive 500 miles a week without incident, and it's been ages since I had a speeding ticket even.


GravatarCompetition has forced the mfgs to use rock-bottom components, which was not always the case. There are $39.00 motherboards, and there are $399.00 motherboards. Which one you think is in that $299.00 E-Machine, or that $349.00 Dell?
Elmer, PHD


Well, I will say my old Toshiba desktop (which they don't make anymore) is still more reliable than my E-machines bargain purchase.

But then, I'm working three jobs to keep the bills paid, so a cheap computer is the only way I'm gonna go.

Funny, I don't remember cheap telephones being unreliable, or cheap cars. They didn't have A/C, maybe, or a 5 disc CD player, but they were usually more reliable than the "luxury cars." The line was: "just more things to repair," and it was usually true.

If I could get a PC the equivalent of my old Volvo sedan, I'd be happy as a clam.


GravatarI can learn to repair a car (marginally; I prefer the pre-computer, pre-pollution equipment MG), but I don't want to learn to be a Geek Squad member just to read the news on the Internet.


Maybe we can work something out here...


GravatarGOP spinner are MSNBC:

"Is this a vast left wing conspiracy?"

"Hastert muscled Foley out..."

"What are you talking about? Hastert expressed surprise when Foley resigned."

"Oh, um, well, I'm sure Hastert told him..."


Gravatar"When we were little, you only had one phone in the house - and it was hard-wired into the wall.

And when it rang, you didn't even know who was calling until you picked it up.

And if you weren't home? You didn't even know anyone had called."


And if you were trying to get someone who was on the phone, you had to try back later!


GravatarI much as I hate to link to buttsex-ette, take a look at this:

http://www.wonkette.com/politics...%20republicans/

Is Charlie Christ gay? You know, the puke running for FL gov.

If this gets "out", I guess we'll see Hannity claim the dems are saying Christ was gay.


GravatarActually, FDR saved their bacon. He ame out of their class, but by spreading around the benefits of capitalism, he avoided a Russian Revolution sort of situation.
Molly Ivors


And how quickly the wealthy forget that lesson....


GravatarIt costs more, but you can get a router that can handle both cable and DSL simultaneously, for that extra bit of reliability should one carrier drop


GravatarDubya has leadership skills?

Lead over the average bozo's head, and he'll vote for the other guy every time...


GravatarOkay then, party lines.


Gravatar I prefer the pre-computer, pre-pollution equipment MG

Pretty soon you'll be able to buy a Chinese MG.


Gravatar"When we were little, you only had one phone in the house - and it was hard-wired into the wall.

And when it rang, you didn't even know who was calling until you picked it up.

And if you weren't home? You didn't even know anyone had called."

And if you were trying to get someone who was on the phone, you had to try back later!
Molly Ivors


And shortly after that, the waters separated from the earth.

And then the earth cooled.

Ah, yes, I remember it well.....


Gravatarmore

GOP spinnner:

"Look at Pelosi..."

"There you go again, blaming the Democrats...."

"I'm not taking the low road.."

"You just did."


GravatarI agree. Now let's hope we survive what they've done to revive the antitrust and fairness laws and repair the economy, and let's hope it doesn't require major depression and world war to get there. Bastards.
mena


Yeah, I know.

I don't know when or how we'll get there. I know we will eventually - everything pushes us toward that. This conservative movement is, in my opinion, an anomaly. It's not going to last - it's falling apart now. People don't want to go back to the Gilded Age - except for the multi-gazillionaires. But that doesn't mean it's going to change tomorrow, it just means it will change.


GravatarI'm old enough to remember party lines and what a big deal it was to get a private line instead. No more waiting for someone you didn't even know to hang up so you could use the phone.
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GravatarIs Charlie Christ gay? You know, the puke running for FL gov.
Bjorn


Someone posted in the comments here that he and Foley were once roomates.


Gravatar Tena,

I watched the governor's debate last night. I think the Dem candidate came off well. Kinky was a disappointment. GoodHair is too pretty to be a manly man from Texas.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 10.07.06 - 12:04 pm | #


Vicki, you might've missed some recent updates around blogistan. I can't remember the exact details, but there's been some coverage of him and some pretty slimy things he's said on Imus and places like that. Kinky, it has become painfully apparent, is nobody a liberal wants to be flirting with.


GravatarI bought a cheap phone once. It had the weight of the old AT&T phones you rented. I took it apart and it had several lead weights next to a cheap circuit board.


GravatarAnd how quickly the wealthy forget that lesson...

Bush was IIRC a history major.
/runs from room


GravatarWell, I will say my old Toshiba desktop (which they don't make anymore) is still more reliable than my E-machines bargain purchase.

E-machines have a really, really bad rep.

You've gotta buy a computer like you buy a car - lots of research and then pick your price.

I got an HP from Fry's - fairly good rep, nicely equipped, and I just waited and waited 'til the price got to a point where I swooped. Then I waited about three weeks until the same computer came up again at an even lower price. One of the few times I've done well shopping, btw...


GravatarAh, yes, I remember it well.....

Well, you're older than me, gramps! But I certainly remember being told off because I talked on the phone all night in my parents' room--the only extension except the kitchen--and no one could get through.

My parents were mostly misanthropes, though, so they didn't really mind.


GravatarMaybe we can work something out here...
dave™©


As Pound said to Whitman: "Let there be a commerce between us."

Obviously I'm gonna have to grab an old MG before the new Chinese models get here. Time to start saving that pocket change....


Gravataryou can get a router

Ooh reminds me, I gotta call my school to see when my CCNP classes will start.


GravatarAnd shortly after that, the waters separated from the earth.

And then the earth cooled.

Ah, yes, I remember it well.....
Rmj




GravatarActually, FDR saved their bacon.
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Yep, And they repaid him with ignorant, greedy scorn ever since.


GravatarBush was IIRC a history major.
/runs from room


Who cheated his way to a C average.

I think it's safe to say he did not learn the lessons of history.


Gravatar"When we were little, you only had one phone in the house - and it was hard-wired into the wall.

And when it rang, you didn't even know who was calling until you picked it up.

And if you weren't home? You didn't even know anyone had called."

And if you were trying to get someone who was on the phone, you had to try back later!
Molly Ivors


***sigh**** - I remember it well. Much better than you do, as a matter of fact, since I'm much older. Alas.



GravatarE-machines have a really, really bad rep.

You've gotta buy a computer like you buy a car - lots of research and then pick your price.


It sucks, but I'm stuck. Saving for another Toshiba, probably.

That, or I'll actually research it like I did my stereo. Got so confused that by the time I'd decided, none of the components were available anymore. And the ones I settled one were too expensive.

Or I'll just throw darts.


GravatarRmj: What, you think every PC user is computer programmer or a geek? Most people use it the way I do: for e-mail and internet browsing.

Well, what I know is a side-effect of the work I've done... and sure, having spent the better part of 20 years on the net doesn't hurt, either.

I use AntiVir (free), and I don't use Microsoft's apps for the net, ever. If I were more worried, I could pop in my Knoppix CD, and say to hell with Windows... but given that I've never, ever had a virus, trojan, spyware infection, I think the whole anti-Windows thing is a bit overblown.
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GravatarTena,
I'm 40 in a month. Having an emotional crisis over it.


GravatarJohn Mark Karr stopped by SF cops for "peering in the windows of an elementary school" there.


GravatarSo, are we going to to be stuck here on the world's longest thread all day?

Or does someone have the backdoor keys?


GravatarI think it's safe to say he did not learn the lessons of history.
==

I think it's safe to say he had his own writers.


GravatarAttaturk has the keys, but I haven't seen him. I thought you did too, Tena. No?


GravatarAh, yes, I remember it well.....

Well, you're older than me, gramps! But I certainly remember being told off because I talked on the phone all night in my parents' room--the only extension except the kitchen--and no one could get through.


I was quite certain we'd established that.

I remember dragging the kitchen phone out to the pool room to talk to my girlfriend (now wife). Pulled the cord all the way across the room into another room. In the days when a service tech had to come out to install a longer cord on the handset.

Rotary dial, too. Still remember when we had to start dialing the prefix, and it went from LYric to 59-.

It was shortly after the dinosaurs started looking peaked, I think.


GravatarI'm 40 in April, hasn't really hit me yet.


GravatarI'm 40 in a month. Having an emotional crisis over it.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:31 pm | #

In Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand said life didn't truly begin until you were 40.


GravatarEchidne also has keys, iirc.


GravatarHow much doublethink does it take for the fundies to vote for Charlie in FL?


GravatarTena,
I'm 40 in a month. Having an emotional crisis over it.
Molly Ivors


Ah, yes, I remember it well!

I think that was during one of my times of employment, actually.

It's a great life if you don't weaken. Or think about it too much.


GravatarPulled the cord all the way across the room into another room. In the days when a service tech had to come out to install a longer cord on the handset.

Not a lot of humor in The Ice Storm, but the moment when the dad sees the phone cord stretched into the daughter's room and yanks it is kind of amusing.


GravatarOur growing economy is not producing a growing middle class, but a richer aristocracy.

Those aren't aristocrats. Those are lootocrats. We love in a lootocracy...


GravatarRMJ was a guest blogger once too. You don't have the keys?


GravatarMolly - o dear. I didn't have a crisis until the year I was 49. I woke up every single morning that year and the first thing I thought was: "I'm going to die."

Turning 50 was a bitch.

Turning 40 didn't phase me.

Everyone is different.


but given that I've never, ever had a virus, trojan, spyware infection, I think the whole anti-Windows thing is a bit overblown.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


See, if you had had one, you wouldn't feel that way. My PC was destroyed utterly by worms, virii, trojans, you name it.


Gravatarrmj: the young'uns, bless 'em, have no idea what it's like when the pterodactyls got dysentery...


Gravatar40 is the new 16 year old beast.


GravatarWe love in a lootocracy...

A Loony Lootocracy!


GravatarThose aren't aristocrats. Those are lootocrats. We love in a lootocracy...
Elmer, PHD | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:35 pm | #


I can't decide if we live in a Military Decidership or an Oligarchical Kleptocracy.


GravatarWhat's that smell in here? Did someone just mention Aynrandistan?


GravatarI'm 40 in a month. Having an emotional crisis over it.
Molly Ivors


{{{Hugs, sweetpea.}}}

It's not so bad. I'm 46 now, and I still look okay (sans black eye). A little chunker than in my youth, but that is to be expected. The only thing I can say to you is that with age comes experience, and with experience, wisdom. And you are already very wise, so imagine how great it'll be to gain even more wisdom!

Because, for me at least, with wisdom comes peace. And with peace, comes love.

I know that sounds corny, but it's what I've learned.


GravatarAttaturk has the keys, but I haven't seen him. I thought you did too, Tena. No?
Molly Ivors


God, no. Atrios changed the locks at least 3 years ago on me.



GravatarMolly - 40 wasn't so bad for me, probably though because my whole life fell apart right around then - took my mind off any one thing. Hope it goes well, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't - look at you!


Gravatarrmj: the young'uns, bless 'em, have no idea what it's like when the pterodactyls got dysentery...
ProfWombat


Duck 'n' Cover!

As for aging: it beats the alternative. And Browning was right, about the best being yet to be.

In fact, I'm counting on it.


Gravatarhello moonbats

finally tidied up my room, much more pleasant environment heh


GravatarAnyway, the Dallas paper had good things to say about Chris Bell, too. They did point out that his weakness is the same as Kerry's - he's too smart and has the answers and they are too detailed.

What the fuck? How did this become a "weakness"?
Tena


That bugs the hell out of me. It's a notion completely fabricated by the media. While I believe there are voters who vote for the "regular guy", I don't think the inverse is true: that people consciously think "I'm not voting for the too-smart candidate."

I think it was a smear invented for Adlai Stevenson and the media -- with help of political ops, probably -- have been regurgitating it ever since.
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GravatarWe love in a lootocracy...
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I love that even more than the typo.


Gravatarmsnbc showing videos created by soldiers in Iraq.

Includes attacks on soldiers.


GravatarAs Little Richard said, being a living legend beats being a dead legend...


GravatarJohn Mark Karr stopped by SF cops for "peering in the windows of an elementary school" there.
plantsman, lowercase


Had to hit CTRL-+ a few times to make sure that wasn't "...peeing in the window..."


GravatarNice one from the Jersey Girls:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/ 200..._over_1006.html

In an October 5th response to recent news of yet another pre-September 11th warning that was ignored by senior Bush administration officials, four widows who lost their husbands during the terrorist attcks have issued a statement about what they see as the failure of White House officials to act upon warnings that Al Qaeda was planning a strike on the United States.

Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg, and Patty Cazaza – who are among the four widows from New Jersey known as the Jersey Girls (the fourth, Monica Gabrielle, is not a member of the group) – have issued a compilation of pre-9/11 terrorism warnings that they believe paints a disturbing picture of a negligent Presidency.

They also address the latest revelation from Watergate reporter Bob Woodward that then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice was warned of a possible attack on July 10, 2001 by then-CIA Director George Tenet.


Bless you, ladies. Keep up the pressure--even tho' right now it's all Foley/Fumigate all the time that it isn't school shootings. (Bless also the reticence of the Amish, so that we didn't get each and every funeral service broadcast.)

Their list is at the end of the article.


Gravatarbut I can't imagine why it wouldn't - look at you!
mena


No shit!

50s are turning out to be ok, so far.

Now I'm dreading my 60s.


GravatarTena: See, if you had had one, you wouldn't feel that way. My PC was destroyed utterly by worms, virii, trojans, you name it.

Maybe I'm just lucky. Or maybe the CD of free goodies that I burn periodically and load on every new PC I'm asked to encounter before it ever touches the Internet helps. I dunno.
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GravatarVoting for the "not smart" candidate certainly backfired this time.


GravatarI was quite pleased I managed to up my laptop all by myself (well with my brother giving instructions down the phone).


Gravatar'Now I'm dreading my 60s.
Tena '

They're more fun. Except for having some one file for your social security benefits, which I've just had to run a report in to the police about. Wheee.


GravatarVoting for the "not smart" candidate certainly backfired this time.
plantsman


Yeah, it did. I'd love to think at least some people realize that now, and I think they do. The one perception that seems to be fairly universal is the perception that Commander CooCoo Bananas is a total idiot.


GravatarRemember when phones actually rang?


GravatarUbuntu!

my brother has little time for Mac v Pc PC v Mac arguments.

cause when your using free software like Unbuntu and such like it doesn't matter what machine you have.

my last laptop suffered no major disasters either, so guess i'm lucky also but it was set up by my brother and so it was rock solid as my current one is.

i run regular spybot checks too


GravatarRuth - well, sure, you look about 42, so it's easy for you to say.



GravatarKILOTHREAD!!!!
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GravatarThreadbot, why have you foresaken us?


Gravatar'That bugs the hell out of me. It's a notion completely fabricated by the media. '

cs, they have to be smart to understand the answers, just makes 'em mad.

A friend told me ABC gave a short report on the debates this a.m. and showed Bell fumbling his answers. I told her they had to be pretty selective to manage footage like that. I'm recording the debates at 2 when they're rerun.


GravatarDid someone say CooCoo Bananas??


GravatarI'm 40 in a month. Having an emotional crisis over it.
Molly Ivors


Every woman friend I've had found their 40s to be great. No black balloons. Get ready to celebrate!
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GravatarJohn Mark Karr stopped by SF cops for "peering in the windows of an elementary school" there.
plantsman, lowercase


Yet another fuckup - they should have left him in Thailand, but nooooooo - they thought they'd have a big ol' headline.


GravatarTena's right Ruth - if everybody 60something looked like you, it would be the new black.


GravatarLittle Billy Kristol:

After a few days of panic last week, House Republicans seem to have calmed down and to be dealing more effectively with the Foley aftershocks. Now they need to defend against the charge that they don't care about sexual predators, and attack the Democrats for unjustly impugning their honor. Then they can get back to the issues--terror and taxes--where the parties really are distinct.

Ya gotta have honor before it can be impugned.


GravatarRuth is in her sixties?

Not from the pics I've seen!

Woo Hoo!


Gravatarciao gotta get me dinner.


Gravatar'Ruth - well, sure, you look about 42, so it's easy for you to say.

Tena'

Oh, that's sweet, now I remember you.


Gravatar"my brother has little time for Mac v Pc PC v Mac arguments."

As I am reading this, I am loading Win 2000 on a MacBook.

The argument may be mute in a bit. ANd Ubuntu is an amazing product as well.


GravatarSpeaking of Eschaton cinema, my sister asked me out of the blue yesterday if I'd go see "The US vs. John Lennon" with her. We're both Beatles/Lennon fans through and through, and although my BIL is OK with the Beatles, he's also one of those people who purposely undercuts the pleasure of others just to prove that everybody doesn't have to be delighted by the production at hand. So ML was wise to ask me.

They had a bowl of "WAR IS OVER - if you want it" buttons in the lobby, and I took three. We both loved it. I did expect the documentary to focus more on the mechanics and background of how the Nixon administration and agencies plotted to have John & Yoko deported-- which it does, but devotes more time to simply showing John & Yoko during that time. Since I've always, always been convinced that John & I would get along great together-- Yoko, too-- I found the virtual time-travel to that period poignant and moving. I know that some critique and dismiss Lennon as just another rich celebrity dilettante coming late to politics and dabbling ineffectually, but just watching him swimming against the tide of ridicule and skepticism proves otherwise-- in my considered opinion.

Afterwards my sister, who is more moderate than I, deplored the fact that the willingness of (young) people to push back against oppression and state violence has atrophied. She works at a local university, and asserts that although kids still search for extra-cultural or counter-cultural identity, and support progressive causes, that they are passive or indifferent in the face of the proto-fascist agenda of the current criminal cabal. They just don't seem to recognize the inherent wrongness and evil of the Unitard™'s actions as readily as all us useless old hippies or freaks did back in The Day. Sorry to sound like a maundering old fuck, but there it is.

From Wikipedia: Nutopia is a conceptual country created by John Lennon and Yoko Ono on April Fool's Day 1973. This country (or nation) was supposed to live up to the standards set by the song "Imagine".

In the official declaration of Nutopia, it is stated that it

"has no land, no boundaries, no passports, only people. Nutopia has no laws other than cosmic. All people of Nutopia are ambassadors of the country. Citizenship of the country can be obtained by declaration of your awareness of Nutopia."


GravatarAhnuld debates tonight.

He's ahead, but his folks are worried about the reaction when people see that Angelides towers over the Terminator.


GravatarAll I know is I want my own laptop. Stat.

All this desktop blogging leaves me in a mango painted room with green swirly wall paper and lemon yellow window trim.

I was trying out something artsy that went terribly psychedelic.


Gravatar"Mena,

Or perhaps Fumi-Gate?

What a fine name for both the meta-scandal that is the Republican Party, and the cure for same.

Fumi-Gate.

Spell it. Learn it. Use it in a sentence."
driftglass | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 11:57 am |

Yes, or Fuming-gate or Fume-irate, for how most Americans (not counting utterly lost shrubbots/thuglidrones) are feeling about all this!


Gravatar'Tena's right Ruth - if everybody 60something looked like you, it would be the new black.
mena '
'Ruth is in her sixties?

Not from the pics I've seen!

Woo Hoo!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore '

Keep it coming, there are no upper limits, friends.


Gravatar"House Republicans seem to have calmed down and to be dealing more effectively with the Foley aftershocks. "

I am sure that triage and proper disaster management are in the skill set that the Republicans carry. I mean this is just a trainwreck, cars scattered about, bodies hanging from the trees. No big deal.


GravatarRuth is teh HOT!


GravatarSpeaking of growing old (or something), my pitiful little blog is about 2 days away from having had 100,000 visitors.

Which I guess is a birthday of some sort. Or one more reason to go on blogging.

But I really need to finish this sermon I'm supposed to be working on...


GravatarOooh, Little Brother, I SO want to see that movie.


GravatarRuth, you old diva.


Gravatar"All this desktop blogging leaves me in a mango painted room with green swirly wall paper and lemon yellow window trim."

My god, you are a Liberal! Know them by their wallpaper.



GravatarEkCenTrik,

The ceiling is mango, too.

It's my Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds Room.


GravatarOkay, back to finish cleaning the bathroom. Toilet scrubbed. Check. Tub scrubbed. Check. Shower Stall. Check.

Sink, mirror, and windows, next. And new towels.


Gravatarmango is lovely in a room in the evening!


GravatarYes, of course, mena and Vicki and Tena all have impeccable taste, you know.

and on man on anything else sex:

Mark Shields - "Bestiality is never consensual."


GravatarSpeaking of growing old (or something), my pitiful little blog is about 2 days away from having had 100,000 visitors.

Lord, give us more pitiful little blogs.


GravatarBrian Ross, who BROKE the Foley story, said on Larry King Live, in front of millions of viewers, that Foley resigned 1 hour after ABC disclosed to him the contents of the illegal pedophiliac sexual messages Foley had sent to an underage Congressional page, and which ABC had recieved from a REPUBLICAN source.

Why is CNN now LYING about FACTS?
CNN is "Trusted" in the exact same way FOX is "Fair", in other words, they both CONTINUALLY LIE through their teeth to the American people, We The People to whom CNN OWES a solemn obligation of Public TRUST.

Answer to question: CNN is LYING because CNN is entirely COMPLICIT in the sick, greedy, inhuman, entirely unconscionable Republican agenda that has and continues to do grave harm to OUR nation.

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GravatarOther than a broken elbow, other wombats, even one or two with well-turned pouches, describe me without irony as rougishly well-preserved...


GravatarSink, mirror, and windows, next. And new towels.
==

Then, mena's house!


GravatarFrom the Newsweek poll--and is it pony time?:

Meanwhile, the president’s approval rating has fallen to a new all-time low for the Newsweek poll: 33 percent, down from an already anemic 36 percent in August. Only 25 percent of Americans are satisfied with the direction of the country, while 67 percent say they are not. Foley’s disgrace certainly plays a role in Republican unpopularity: 27 percent of registered voters say the scandal and how the Republican leadership in the House handled it makes them less likely to vote for a Republican Congressional candidate; but 65 percent say it won’t make much difference in determining how they vote. And Americans are equally divided over whether or not Speaker Hastert should resign over mishandling the situation (43 percent say he should, but 36 percent say he shouldn’t).

BushBoy down to 33% and it only makes the 4th paragraph, bottom of first screen. Wow. Foley takes up the rest, mostly.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1516.../site/newsweek/


GravatarMy baby does the hanky-panky.


GravatarCNN is Time-Warner, no?


GravatarI missed you bats yesterday!

How's everyone?


GravatarHolden - I thought you didn't do weekends?


GravatarMark Shields - "Bestiality is never consensual."
Ruth, revolted | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 12:56 pm

But my dog loves me!

Or my dolphin or sheep or whatever....


Gravatar'Other than a broken elbow, other wombats, even one or two with well-turned pouches, describe me without irony as rougishly well-preserved...
ProfWombat'

You have a beautiful mind, too.


GravatarSo if Bush is so unpopular, why doesn't he have more chair marks on his head?


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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Gravataraww gawrsch, Ruth...thank you


GravatarWell, that looks very nice indeed. I should have done -that- sooner.

Onwards to the roller work!


GravatarAnyone got Echidne's blog bookmarked. You could go there and beg her to start us a new thread here.


GravatarSo if Bush is so unpopular, why doesn't he have more chair marks on his head?
ProfWombat | 10.07.06 - 1:01 pm | #
...
Well, we can't blame Keith Olbermann.


Gravatarhey sallyh...wasshaykin?


GravatarI was trying out something artsy that went terribly psychedelic.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 10.07.06 - 12:50 pm | #

be careful if that wallpaper ever starts to move. Or turn yellow.


Gravatar'But my dog loves me!

Or my dolphin or sheep or whatever....
jawbone'

Taking a page out of their book - so does the box turtle surely.


GravatarHi Sallyh!


GravatarLittle Brøther -- Ah, wasn't that a time? We've used "War is Over (if you want it) as our holiday card the last 3 years. Don't think I could get through the season during this dark times without it.
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GravatarAhnuld debates tonight.

He's ahead, but his folks are worried about the reaction when people see that Angelides towers over the Terminator.
CoT-Colbert's Apprentice

Didya know that Arnold's father died in a concentration camp?

Fell out of a guard tower.


GravatarHow's everyone?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

In Tiger heaven.


GravatarWell, we can't blame Keith Olbermann.

No, indeed. His last "special comment" kicked!


GravatarSpeaking of getting old, I liked the opening of this story:

Here's something men are good at: dropping dead of heart disease.


GravatarOlbermann's recent commentary will be an important part of his time's historical record. Few of his contemporaries will merit that distinction.


GravatarMark Shields - "Bestiality is never consensual."

What about when the pet initiates sex?


GravatarYou could use them as weapons then. Hevy as hell.

Do tell. My sister socked me in the head with an old-fashioned telephone receiver once when we were kids. Hurt like you wouldn't believe...


GravatarProfWombat--perhaps a lot of 2 a.m. phone calls and threats of dead horseheads in the beds of reporters?


GravatarI'm running the window manager beryl ontop of Kanotix, and KDE. Even the German Kanotix elves are amazed at beryl which is at a ".1" beta stage (dangerous to use, but fun).

No real support even at the # beryl irc line, and so it being kind of untested it does some strange things sometimes, like pop a cube display up of your desktops for no reason that you know of. That display is supposed to be a feature, but I have no idea how to make this feature appear when I want it to.


GravatarWhat about when the pet initiates sex?
Mike
==

Or asks for it?


GravatarI call Olbermann's routines Special Sauce!


GravatarTelephone nostalgia: My father finally grudgingly allowed a second extension in my parents' bedroom, but for many years the standard black dial phone on the desk in the dining room was it. The dining room had a roomy closet built under the staircase; it wasn't exactly walk-in, since it was full of coats, but there was storage room.

As my siblings and I reached our teens, our practice was to drag the phone into the closet. You could sit or recline on the floor among the galoshes, small appliances, unused boxes of wedding-gift glassware, etc., and converse in reasonable privacy. I spent countless hours in that closet during high school.

BTW, I'm referring to an actual, literal closet here; this Foley crap has really confused things.


GravatarHi sallyh!!!!!!


GravatarHolden!


GravatarHere's something men are good at: dropping dead of heart disease.
dave™© |

'Put down the weed' might not fly too well 'round here.


Gravatar{{{{sallyh!!}}} How are you feeling?!


GravatarAnd after that, I'm going to plant the star jasmine.

Okay. Everybody keep your various appendages crossed that my endocrinologist deigns to offer me l'eau de Gila Monster on Monday!


GravatarSallyh -- I have some Curly for ya.
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GravatarHolden - I thought you didn't do weekends?

Mrs. Holden left my cage door open.

More from Newsweek

For the first time since 2001, the NEWSWEEK poll shows that more Americans trust the Democrats than the GOP on moral values and the war on terror. Fully 53 percent of Americans want the Democrats to win control of Congress next month, including 10 percent of Republicans, compared to just 35 percent who want the GOP to retain power. If the election were held today, 51 percent of likely voters would vote for the Democrat in their district versus 39 percent who would vote for the Republican.


We're the party of moral values now. Scary, ain't it?


GravatarJeffraham and ProfWombat--yesterday was crazy; preop stuff in the morning, babysitting the rest of the day. I admit that the granddaughter was unbearably cute and fun


Gravatarsallyh: that, and their addiction to cocktail weiners. Seems to me that the Bushies have demonstrated beyond doubt the evil of one-party government...


Gravatar"What about when the pet initiates sex?
Mike
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Or asks for it?
mena."

The only way beastiality isn't rape is if the animal's dead.

Sorry.


GravatarPac 10 game of the week: Oregon Ducks (11) vs Cal Bears (16), 5pm Pacific.
Naturally the oddsmakers give Cal a 5.5 point lead. We shall see.


GravatarPut down the weed' might not fly too well 'round here.

That shit won't even get off the ground here. What crap that is.


GravatarDavid mizner - I really wouldn't want you to think that was anything other than sarcasm. As I'm sure was mike's.
And the damn phone has started. and the chores....


Gravatar'What about when the pet initiates sex?
Mike'

You've been reading No Bad Dogs, huh?


GravatarGood on Maddy; it'll only get better. How are Mom and Dad doing?


Gravatar"What about when the pet initiates sex?
Mike


When Mr. Plushy jumps in my lap and purrs and rubs his furry little body against me, it does not mean he wants me to fuck him.

For fuck's sake.


GravatarThe obviously biased opinions of low-grade morons is more likely to give me a heart attack than the next joint I smoke.


GravatarJeffraham--ooh, the black feets!


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham and ProfWombat--yesterday was crazy; preop stuff in the morning, babysitting the rest of the day. I admit that the granddaughter was unbearably cute and fun

Of course!

But pre-op...? I thought the surgery was a week away...?!?
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GravatarFOLEY DELIBERATE REPUBLICAN DISTRACTION TO COVER IRAN FALSE FLAG
AND INTERNATIONAL PEDOPHILE RING

"Republicans are now trying to sweep the DeLay-Abramoff-Reed-and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, hoping the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being run by Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is a meaningless placebo.

The only way to counter the power of organized money is with organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of Congress fear most is a grassroots movement that DEMANDS CLEAN ELECTIONS and an END to the buying and selling of influence." - Bill Moyers


GravatarA review of beryl in a German computer magazine, translated through babblefish. This includes on the page some video of the bery desktop.

http://tinyurl.com/m5vjz


GravatarShared a pirate party line with some dorm mates in the late 1960s. Bought some lamp wire and war-surplus battleship wall dial phones, hooked it up between windows...


Gravatar"David mizner - I really wouldn't want you to think that was anything other than sarcasm. As I'm sure was mike's.
And the damn phone has started. and the chores....
mena"

Course not. Interesting people hang here but no "animal lovers" as far as I can tell.


GravatarWe're the party of moral values now. Scary, ain't it?

Since our morals don't include bombing the shit out of brown people, and fucking over the middle class (as well as poor people), I think that's an improvement.


GravatarStar Jasmine! Heaven on Earth.


GravatarBlak--Putting down the weed is not a goal. It's not even an objective.


Gravatarplantsman, how about that weather forcast?


GravatarI should go run some errands before the football game, but I'm loathe to displace lion kitty Maxx.


GravatarCNN is indeed owned by TimeWarner.

Here's a list of all TimeWarner property.

The list is from 2004.

AOL has since been spun off.


Gravatarnot a goal. It's not even an objective.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
nor a strategy or a tactic


Gravatarlak--Putting down the weed is not a goal. It's not even an objective.

I think we should be asking people to pick up the weed.

Think of all we'll save on the costs of long term care for Altzheimer's patients.


GravatarProfWombat--your mention of cocktail weenies makes me realize why I cringe whenever I hear the phrase "Third Way."


GravatarEven the hazardous waste dump fire in NC hurts the GOP. Citizens are up in arms that a hazardous
site was located so close to residential areas.


GravatarCNN is indeed owned by TimeWarner.

And so is TIME Magazine. Obviously.


GravatarPoppy, apparently nervous that his son's crimes will be revealed:

"Former President George H.W. Bush says that a Democratic takeover of Congress would be a
'ghastly thing for our country.'"

Ghastly, indeed.


Gravatarfourlegs, what game are you waiting for? I want all top 10 teams to lose. Go Razorbacks!


GravatarOh dear, Paula Zahn is going to separate "fact from fiction" on the Foley scandal on Monday.

Asshats.


GravatarErin, It's wicked good weather for October! Historically, by month's end, we will have a 60% chance of rain every day.


GravatarGo Michigan!

Hail to the Victors Valiant!

Go Michigan!


Gravatarfourlegs, what game are you waiting for? I want all top 10 teams to lose. Go Razorbacks!

Texas v. Oklahoma.

You cannot possibly root for the sooners. It's fucking oklahoma.


GravatarPaula Zahn is fiction to me.


GravatarGo Ducks!


Gravatar4Legs--I think I may agree with E.J. Dionne: we need to come out as the party of Real Family Values--and I'm not talking about cheap shit at Walmart.


GravatarIt's fucking oklahoma.
fourlegsgood



Hey, if you are an Oregon fan you can (ducks and runs).


Gravatar'Course not. Interesting people hang here but no "animal lovers" as far as I can tell.
david mizner'

we all admit to a bit of catblogging.


Gravatar"Former President George H.W. Bush says that a Democratic takeover of Congress would be a
'ghastly thing for our country.'"

Ghastly, indeed.


You know, I want to beat that old man repeatedly about the head and shoulders.

What a fuckwit. It's his fault his son is such a fuckup.


Gravatar . . . and attack the Democrats for unjustly impugning their honor



GravatarPutting down the weed is not a goal. It's not even an objective.

No doubt, and I know you've experienced how destructive "real" drugs are first hand, as I have.

Assclowns do vex me.

Back later, Peace!!


Gravatar4Legs--I think I may agree with E.J. Dionne: we need to come out as the party of Real Family Values--and I'm not talking about cheap shit at Walmart.

I agree.

I'll stack my morals up against anyone's. Just cause I don't worship the baby jeebus doesn't mean I don't have a moral code.


GravatarWhere the heck is Atrios headed, Shanghai?


GravatarNow the Republicans are admitting they did cover up but not to keep power or money

they didn't want to be seen as gay bashing --head should be exploding everywhere

I guess blaming democrats didn't work so now they are just blaming gay people for everything


Gravatar'Former President George H.W. Bush says that a Democratic takeover of Congress would be a
'ghastly thing for our country.'"'

There's the point of view of some one who thinks no disaster outranks the exposure of our cretin in chief's shredding the constitution and his oath of office.


GravatarRepublicans not gay-bashing. That's a new meme!


GravatarDemocrats already are the party of family values

insurance, housing, education and wages --


GravatarI'll stack my morals up against anyone's. Just cause I don't worship the baby jeebus doesn't mean I don't have a moral code.


Mine is to do the least harm and the most good.

Now, every so often, I get twisted up in a crisis of conscience, but since about 1994, when I finally grew up, I always end up doing the right thing - even it if isn't necessarily what my impulses want me to do.


GravatarI'm watching "In The Money" on CNN, mostly because I don't want to disturb Mr. Plushy's nap.

This shit is pissing me off.

They're discussing how companies who don't "make their numbers" (in order to please Wall Street) start laying workers off.

It's fucking sick.


GravatarAtrios posted a couple of days ago that he had an obligation in Seattle.


Gravatar"...a Democratic takeover of Congress would be a
'ghastly thing for my son."

That's what he meant to say.

Long thread here, hi all.


Gravatarinsurance, housing, education and wages --
liars for bush | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 1:24 pm | #

adequate medical care, secure retirement, a future for our children, a balanced budget....


GravatarYou know what? we need a new theme.

Republicans ARE NOT PATRIOTIC.

They put their personal well being above the good of the country.


Gravatar'they didn't want to be seen as gay bashing --head should be exploding everywhere'

24/7/365.25 politics, let's go for 23% .... or 20%. I'd say 0, but there's still the totally stupefyingly stupid aka the pro-torture crowd.


Gravatar"You know, I want to beat that old man repeatedly about the head and shoulders.

What a fuckwit. It's his fault his son is such a fuckup.
fourlegsgood"

And in the same interview he laments the "climate of incivility." Though I have to laugh at his word choice. "Ghastly, just ghastly. Now muffin, please pour me another gin and tonic."


GravatarLet's see ... what was it?
Oh yeah.




FUCK BUSH!
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GravatarFrom Dave's linked article: The only thing more pathetic than a 43-year-old guy who still gets high is a 43-year-old guy who gets high then drops dead of a heart attack.

Who writes this stuff? I wonder how many 40-year old drunks he knows, and whether he thinks they're "pathetic", too...


Gravatarinsurance, housing, education and wages --
liars for bush | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 1:24 pm | #

adequate medical care, secure retirement, a future for our children, a balanced budget....


A clean environment, better schools, better relations with other nations...


Gravatar"Former President George H.W. Bush says that a Democratic takeover of Congress would be a
'ghastly thing for our country.'"

Ghastly, indeed.


Ghastly for those who "might be" brought to account for the horrors they caused for this country, and for the countries they invaded.


GravatarAnd in the same interview he laments the "climate of incivility." Though I have to laugh at his word choice. "Ghastly, just ghastly. Now muffin, please pour me another gin and tonic."

Right. I seem to recall that it was his fuckup of a kid saying that democrats don't want to protect the nation.


GravatarIs Atrios off to yet another left wing blogger conference where they don't allow...you know...darkies?


GravatarI think we should be asking people to pick up the weed.

Think of all we'll save on the costs of long term care for Altzheimer's patients.



If you know you have heart problems and continue to smoke pot, you are just asking for it. Everybody who has smoked pot knows that THC makes your heart beat much faster. It can also cause anxiety attacks that can themselve precipitate heart episodes. I am no kind of anti-drug crusader at all, I have smoked plenty of weed in my life and still do so (very) occasionally now. I am immensely relieved to have found out a few moths ago that it doesn't especially cause lung cancer, given what a bong-scraping joneser I was in my twenties. And it's great that it may have beneficial effects vs. Alzheimer's. But it is just plain bad for your heart.


GravatarDenver thread above.


GravatarThe Daily Dish, Power Line, Captain’s Quarters, Daily Kos, TPM Café, Hit & Run, Unclaimed Territory, Pandagon, Tapped, The American Scene

What do these ten blogs have in common?


GravatarHi 4LGS, Mr. Plushy is looking pretty spiff these days, is he feeling well again?


GravatarTime to go plant the Foxglove and Lupines


Gravatar'They're discussing how companies who don't "make their numbers" (in order to please Wall Street) start laying workers off.'

That's to avoid the CEO having to take responsibility. Usually the COO goes, too.

Having been watching a GMAC Smartnote anxiously, I can understand the underlying cause, but screwing the workers is not the way I want to make money.


GravatarHolden Caulfield -- We're the party of moral values now. Scary, ain't it?

Doesn't scare me at all. I think it's a sign that we're getting to the bedrock of what's moral and what's not.

I don't approve of sex games with interns or teens viewed as sex toys, but underneath this kind of reprehensible behavior are fundamental issues of the rights and obligations of egalitarian citizenship. I think -- hope -- we're gettin' down to the nitty gritty of that. And the folks who stay truest to those principles are likey to be democrats.
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GravatarA Family Research Council Guy just said on MSNBC that gay men are 10 times more likely to molest children than heterosexual men. A current study at Pediatrics.org does not support that statement.


GravatarThe Pelosi/NAMBLA connection is quite a stretch, to say the least. Here's where all the froth started, an article in the American Spectator about the 2001 SF Pride Parade...

"Celebrant number 31 was the late Harry Hay. Harry, it seems, was quite the guy. [snip] Which makes one curious about the presence of marcher number 34 in the 2001 Pride Parade. Marching a mere three spots away from the famous Harry Hay, no doubt waving and smiling to the crowd, was, as the Chronicle logged her in the Official Guide and Program Parade Lineup: "U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi."

And here's the Wiki entry for Harry Hay. Harry Hay is indeed a hero to many in the gay community (including me). Unfortunately, he wasn't perfect and his associations with NAMBLA, though he was never a member, we would all rather forget. In fact, as far as I know, NAMBLA as an organization has never been allowed to march in the SF Pride Parade (or probably any other gay pride parade anywhere) as it would be like the KKK marching in a 4th of July parade.

I wonder if any republican has ever marched in a parade or appeared in public with a known pedophile. For example, someone like Maf54...


Gravatarwhere they don't allow

Liar.


GravatarRecent medical research indicates marijuana may have broad clinical applications in treating Alzheimers.


GravatarAnyone who is nostalgic for Bush I, please read him again.

He's as evil as his son. And I'm convinced that he is the one that wants the dynasty to take over.


GravatarIs Atrios off to yet another left wing blogger conference where they don't allow...you know...darkies?

Quick, how many black Republicans are there in Congress? And how many black Democrats?

And when you've answered that, tell me which party doesn't allow "darkies"...


Gravatar"Christening" aircraft carriers doesn't seem right.


GravatarBonjour all, threadbot is on strike?


GravatarPHILADELPHIA -- When Ma Bell broke up in 1984, Betty Jane Hunt continued leasing her telephone -- and did so until just a few years ago, when a friend analyzed her phone bill and discovered the small monthly fee.

The municipal clerk, who hadn't given much thought to the charges on her bill, promptly told AT&T that she wouldn't pay another dime for the phone. After some haggling, she said, the company let her out of the contract. But the damage was already done: Hunt had leased the beige rotary-dial relic, which still hangs in her kitchen, for far more than it would have cost to buy it.

"It was an expensive phone," Hunt, 61, of West Amwell Township, N.J., said with a laugh.

Twenty years after the government's breakup of the Bell monopoly, nearly 1 million consumers still lease their telephone from an affiliate of AT&T, paying anywhere from $4.45 a month for an old-style rotary phone with "conventional bell sound" to $20.95 a month for a cordless phone with built-in digital answering machine. The result: Customers spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on a piece of equipment that can be purchased for as little as $10.

AT&T's Web site touts numerous benefits to leasing, including portability (you can take your phone with you if you move anywhere in the continent) and free accessories like long cords.

But consumer advocates say the program takes advantage of consumers, particularly elderly people, who may be easily confused over what their options are. According to an AARP survey from 1998, the latest year for which figures are available, 6 percent of people 75 or older leased their phone, compared with 2 percent under 65.

"It is such a rip-off," said Chris Baker of AARP's Public Policy Institute. "It's one of the things older people really depend on, and the fact they get abused is pathetic."
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0...4229/ 362300.stm

20 years at 4.45 is $1,068 - at 20.95 $5,028
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GravatarAnd when you've answered that

That motherfucking liar has no answers. He just has more monkey shit to fling. Cause he's full of it.

We smack him down, he just flings more shit. That's all he's got.

Motherfucking liar.


GravatarAmericaBlog. who's been excellent on the Foley scandal, has this dilemma today, what should John do?


"Second Republican congressman snared in page sex scandal?
by John in DC - 10/07/2006 08:03:00 AM

Denny Hastert has put me in a difficult position.

I've heard rumors. Unsubstantiated talk. No proof yet. But I've heard things. Just like I heard things about Mark Foley this past July. This time I've heard things about a relatively senior Republican member of the House, and also about someone on the Speaker's own staff. Both rumors seem relevant to this story as it's unfolding.

So here's my dilemma. Denny Hastert says that if I don't report the unsubstantiated allegations I've heard, I'm a criminal. But the thing is, I'm also a journalist, and a good human being. I don't think it's right to print unsubstantiated rumors I've heard, rumors that could make life quite difficult for this Republican congressman and this senior member of Hastert's staff.

So what do I do? Do I publish unsubstantiated rumors about a GOP congressman and one of Denny Hastert's top aides? I don't want to, I don't think it's right, but Denny Hastert says he'll sic the FBI on me for hurting children if I don't. And he'll probably end up blaming Nancy Pelosi if my rumors turn out to be true and I didn't go public with them.

So what do I do? Maybe I'll just call Denny Hastert's office on Monday, tell them what I've heard, and let them decide how comfortable they are with the Speaker's new standard of justice."

* i say send the info to ABC Brian Ross, he'll invistate, it's "his" story and the wingnuts are trying to smear him right now. So he's up to find the truth. Imagine if there really is a cover-up on a SECOND congressman! oh dear!


GravatarDoug -- Ghastly for those who "might be" brought to account for the horrors they caused for this country, and for the countries they invaded.

Bush pere went on to imply just about that, talked about how they'll initiate all kinds of investigative committees and such!
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GravatarHe's as evil as his son.

And almost a