I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarFirst! and Thinnest!


GravatarNicole, you bitch!


GravatarThird?


Gravataryeah, I coulda been a contender.


GravatarI am not a bitch!

(throws drink)


GravatarFoley
750k protection money for a predator


GravatarThat's Hot


GravatarThe "club" nature of both the House and the Senate needs to be resisted as much as possible. I know it's human nature to form these sorts of groupings, and no one wants to lose a member of the club, but this is too fracking important.

You can see the "club" mindset at its absolute worst in the DC press corpse.


GravatarThe funny thing about that list, is that the RNC, and the NRCC both promised that Sekula-Gibbs would get $1 million in cash for her campaign.

They couldn't even give her $100k.


Gravatar33 Percent?!?!?


GravatarUm, hello? What bouncer let people like "Jennifer" and "Liars for Bush" into the VIP room? I'm gonna have him fired!


Gravataranother sheet?


GravatarThere are really only 50-60 seats that can be turned in a landslide year. No party will ever go say below 160 in seats the way they are rigged. We have our safe seats, they have theirs. What Delay did in Texas was just more extreme of what is going on elsewhere.

You have 5,000,000 voters. For simplicity sake, they are half dems, half repub voters when independent leaners are thrown in. You could make 10 competitive districts, or you could give 5 to each as safe seats. Or you could put 400,000 dems and 100,000 Republican in 2 districts, and put 212,500 democrats and 278,500 Republicans in the other 8 districts. That way you have 8 seats to two in a state that is 50/50. Neat trick.


GravatarNever thought I'd see the day when I'd be alone with Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie, Lindsay Lohan, and Jennifer...


GravatarBillmon has some great posts up also, one about it's not just the power, it's the campaign contributions Foley could bring in--as long as he was, as Billmon put it, "sweet."


Gravatar33 Percent?!?!?
watertiger


Bush is Bouncin' on Concrete these days.


Gravatar(repost...again)

antorum Event...

About 75 protesters remained on the street, said Mr. Grove.

He said the crowd was asked repeatedly to disperse.

Mr. Grove said a Port Authority canine unit was called in to help with crowd control. Two officers used their tasers to stun two protesters who "were asked to leave, but did not go," Mr. Grove said.The tasers he said were empty of the cartridges that supply a more powerful charge.

"It was a very tense situation. They were very close to the governor and shouting on top of him."As a precaution, the governor was ushered into a T-station supply closet and stayed there until the crowd left.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0...0/728177- 53.stm


GravatarMmm. Sweet juicy Foley's. Eww.


GravatarSheetenfreude!


GravatarKilled the monster thread with this one re Poppy Bush:

He's as evil as his son.

And almost as incompetent. The crisis that led to the first Persian Gulf War didn't even have to become a crisis, much less a war. Bush waited too long to respond to Saddam's threats against Kuwait, and when he did respond, he did so in the worst possible way -- by turning the whole thing into a public pissing contest between himself and Saddam, thus insuring that the crisis would never be resolved diplomatically...


Gravatarok, my last post missed this bit:

hiding in a closet??? oh dear!

Jeb Bush Hides From Protesters In a Closet During Santorum Event...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0...0/728177- 53.stm


GravatarDid any of you know that Denny Hastert's roommate is his cheif of staff?

It's not unusual for congressmen to room together, particularly those who don't have financial resources other than congressional paychecks. Most of them are supporting a home and usually a family as well back in the home district.

But Hastert's worth $6 million. Obviously, he could afford a place of his own.

Curious, no?


GravatarThe support for the deserting coward is nearing the point where just the slack-jawed Jeebus-addled are all he's got left, along with the multimillionaire parasites.


GravatarThe key to third party success is to have a separate armed wing. That would lessen the number of incumbents.


GravatarThe support for the deserting coward is nearing the point where just the slack-jawed Jeebus-addled are all he's got left, along with the multimillionaire parasites.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Yeppers.



GravatarI don't know about "first and foremost", but having worked within the party system, I can say there's some truth to that.

But also, the party is made up of people with all kinds of agendas and ambitions, and it is a vehicle for those.

Incumbents get elected, and defeated, for all kinds of reasons.

And of course money can raised entirely outside the party system, and often is.

But the main point, running candidates everywhere, is a good idea.


Gravatar"It was a very tense situation. They were very close to the governor and shouting on top of him."As a precaution, the governor was ushered into a T-station supply closet and stayed there until the crowd left.

He's every bit as brave as his brother the deserter.


Gravatar"He's as evil as his son."

You bet. I think of Boosh Sr as the cigarette smoking man and Jr as his son,Jeffrey Spender

and we know how that turned out


GravatarAlso from billmon:

When climbing amid the ruined schools, fuel stations, shops, homes, roads and bridges of southern Lebanon or driving through village after village flattened and pulverized by the terror that rained down, it is clear that the civilian population was deliberately targeted. Over 1 million cluster bombs were dropped, and 40% of them did not explode. They remain in the south, waiting for children to play with them, for farmers to step on them, a gift that keeps on giving. The agricultural fields on which the south depends for its economy are destroyed. ...

Update 10/7 12:45 PM ET:

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz published an article on Sept. 12 anonymously quoting the head of a rocket unit in Lebanon who was critical of the decision to use cluster bombs. “What we did was insane and monstrous; we covered entire towns in cluster bombs,” Haaretz quoted the commander as saying.


GravatarHe's every bit as brave as his brother the deserter.
Apprentice to Darth Holden

there's so many republicans hiding in closets lately


GravatarHW Bush's diplomats literally told Saddam that he viewed this as a private thing between Iraq and Kuwait and didn't really want to hear about it, tusting Saddam to take care of it all. Somehow Saddam interpreted that as a green light.


GravatarCurious, no?
Jennifer


Didn't he just give his CoS the heave ho?


Gravatarthe multimillionaire parasites.

Make that multibillionaire.


GravatarWe're so fucked. Rove is just lowering expectations. He's a genius.


GravatarDid any of you know that Denny Hastert's roommate is his cheif of staff?
Jennifer...


hum...look at this sweety! The puzzle is slowly making sense...

http://americablog.blogspot.com/...man- snared.html


GravatarThe Israelis released the cluster bombs after it was obvious that they'd lost, as they withdrew. Ehud Olmert, criticized for not killing enough Arabs, shot back: "How can you say we accomplished nothing? Half of Lebanon was destroyed!"


GravatarApprentice - Unless that happened today, no. Hastert's COS remains in his employ. Maybe you're thinking of Reynolds' COS, who was formerly Foley's COS, Fordham?


GravatarNorth Korea is going to set off a nuclear weapon inside an abandoned coal mine. Isn't there a mine fire here in the States that has never been extinguished?


GravatarYou can never have too many.


Gravatartunneling from the sardine can it opened into a majestic expanse of lavish rooms


Gravatarit is nice to see the Rethugs playing defense.

“We’re working to redirect the debate back to national security and lower taxes,” said Brian Jones, the communications director for the Republican National Committee. “But this week that’s proved to be a difficult task.”

Republican pollsters said their first concern was that the page scandal could discourage Republican voters from turning out.

“We’re not seeing it affecting voter behavior; we are seeing it affect voter intensity,” said Glenn Bolger, a Republican pollster. “It’s more of a deflation effect among Republicans than it is a motivator for Democrats. Does that change in the

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/ 0...artner=homepage


GravatarRepubliscum out!


GravatarNorth Korea is going to set off a nuclear weapon inside an abandoned coal mine. Isn't there a mine fire here in the States that has never been extinguished?
plantsman, lowercase |


"we must not allow the north korenas to develop more m ine shaft sapce or else we face a mine shaft gap"
-FOX commenatator Buck Tiurdgison


Gravatarhttp://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0...g/0...0/728177- 53.stm
plum P

Oh, shit. Best not to fuck with steelworkers in Pittsburgh.

"Santorum, that's Latin for asshole." --Bob Kerry


GravatarRepublicans
the party of cover up and hypocrisy
Richard Nixon
Bob Packwood
Crane
Libby
Livingston
Hyde
Schwarzenegger --the gropper
statistics put together by someone who didn't go to a charter school that doesn't believe in evolution
show that pedophilia has nothing to do with being gay


GravatarThe slack-jawed Jeebus-addled don't like them no Foley-hiders.


Gravatar Or you could put 400,000 dems and 100,000 Republican in 2 districts, and put 212,500 democrats and 278,500 Republicans in the other 8 districts. That way you have 8 seats to two in a state that is 50/50. Neat trick.


Well, now that mid-census redistricting is A-OK with the SCOTUS, we will have to take advantage of our impending control of a fair bit more state legislatures after this election and do as much of that in reverse as possible. What's good for the goose is good for the gander y'know. The whole edifice of Repug control was based on the premise that they could tilt the field so much in their favor that they would never be dislodged, not matter how much public opinion shifts. Once those barriers have been overcome, though, le deluge.....


GravatarDoes that change in the next 34 days? That's part of our job."

Haloscan (or my clumsy typing) cut off the money quote.


GravatarUpon reflection, yeah, it's an incumbency protection racket, but the first rule in business (often ignored by idiot sales twits who operate on commisions) is that the customer you already have is worth ten potential customers.

So having a seat, and being an incumbent, is the way to retain what you've got in the House or Senate, then building on it. Even if the incumbent isn't ideal ideologically, he's at least in your party. Now, I realize this is a Democratic notion...the GOP has so little use for those who don't hew the partei line, at least in their votes. What they do privately (or in IMs) seems to be of very little concern, as long as they're incumbent, vote to support Commander Cuckoo Bananas at all times, and can raise money for the overall partei effort.


GravatarSomehow Saddam interpreted that as a green light.

And why wouldn't he, since we certainly supported him when he invaded Iran...


GravatarRepug control was based on the premise that they could tilt the field so much in their favor that they would never be dislodged, not matter how much public opinion shifts. Once those barriers have been overcome, though, le deluge.....
blerb


Well said.


Gravatarok, so what's going on? i went to bed early last night and all was fine. now, it's repug land again. wtf?


GravatarDidn't Saddam's first chemical weapons come from us?


GravatarYou can never have too many.


link not, for me anyway.


GravatarPssssttt...some of y'all may want to tell Harold Ford Jr.that in order to be a lawyer, you have to have had passed the bar exam...trying and flunking it miserably doesn't count.

Jr. continues to enmbarass himeself by going on CNN and calling himself a lawyer...of course CNN is never concerned about the truth.


Gravatarin case someone brings it up again
"Mental health professionals agree that pedophilia should never be considered normal, because it is truly a disease. None of the things that make homosexuality a normal variation of human sexuality apply to pedophilia."
- Martin Downs, WebMD Medical News
"There is no medical evidence to suggest an association between homosexuality and impaired moral judgment."
- Journal of the American Medical Association - Pediatric Forum, March 2001

"It is ludicrous to identify pedophiles as homosexuals."
- Stan Robson, Chief Deputy, Benton County Sheriffs Department
(In over 14 years of Robson's work with pedophiles, 498 out of 500 offenders identified themselves as heterosexual.)

"The vast majority of offenders are heterosexual men. Male offenders who abuse young boys maintain adult heterosexual relationships. The habitual molester of boys is rarely attracted to adult males."
- Roland Summit, M.D. Head Physician, Community Consultation Service, Harbor UCLA Medical Center.

"The belief that homosexuals are particularly attracted to children is completely unsupported by our data. The child offenders who engaged in adult relationships as well, were heterosexuals. There were no homosexual adult oriented offenders in our samples who turned to children."
- A. Nicholas Groth, Ph.D., Director of the Sex Offender Program, Connecticut Department of Corrections, and Co-Director of the St. Joseph College Institute for the Treatment and Control of Child Sexual Abuse


GravatarDidn't Saddam's first chemical weapons come from us?

Shhh! Next thing, you'll be saying Rummy used to be Saddam's butthole buddy.


GravatarThe crisis that led to the first Persian Gulf War didn't even have to become a crisis

Like an auto crash. There's at least one incompetent to cause a wreck, but if the other driver swerves, then the crash does not happen.
--
It's what is wrong with the current way of running military operations. The person making the decision, can safely run things from thousands of miles away and so, will suffer none of the pain of engaging in conflict. If the commander has no empathy with the troops and the public who'll be the ultimate recipients of the warfare, he'll have absolutely no reason to not do it.


Gravatarah crap.

in case it didn't work the first time.


GravatarNorth Korea is going to set off a nuclear weapon inside an abandoned coal mine. Isn't there a mine fire here in the States that has never been extinguished?
plantsman, lowercase |


There's one outside of Glenwood Springs, Colorado. A coal seam fire that has been burning for years.


Gravatarin case it didn't work the first time.


Works now. Funny!


Gravatarhe'll have absolutely no reason to not do it.
Doug | 10.07.06 - 2:09 pm |

Indeed his career, and in some cases the superior size of his god, would demand it.


GravatarPssssttt...some of y'all may want to tell Harold Ford Jr.that in order to be a lawyer, you have to have had passed the bar exam...trying and flunking it miserably doesn't count.

is this true?


GravatarRepublicans lie to the American peoples face, steal elections, cheat and smear their way to power. They tax everything that moves 4 times over, drive our debt into the trillions, steal our healthcare, buy every judge, every media outlet, every cop, everything they can get their greedy hands on.
They prey on and molest children, spread racism, hatred, bigotry and corruption. They foment wars, send everyone elses kids to go die to enrich their corporations, deliberately ignore education,
and purposely sell out our country to the highest bidder, destroying our competitive advantage and standing in the world community, all the while waving our flag and braying endlessly about their values. When called on all of this, these brave GOP traitors go hide in a closet.


Gravatar“What we did was insane and monstrous; we covered entire towns in cluster bombs,” Haaretz quoted the commander as saying.

Fuckers. I'm sorry, but not everyone that criticizes Israel is a kook. They refuse to behave like a responsibility country and verify their nuclear caches, and join the IAEA. They continual spy on us, and play us for saps. Some ally.


Gravatar"The vast majority of offenders are heterosexual men. Male offenders who abuse young boys maintain adult heterosexual relationships. The habitual molester of boys is rarely attracted to adult males."
- Roland Summit, M.D. Head Physician, Community Consultation Service, Harbor UCLA Medical Center.

So important, it had to be seen again.


GravatarPssssttt...some of y'all may want to tell Harold Ford Jr.that in order to be a lawyer, you have to have had passed the bar exam...trying and flunking it miserably doesn't count.

actually, as lawschool graduates understand it, one is a lawyer after receiving the J.D. one can only be an attorney if one passes the bar. and of course one must pass the bar to practice law, but there is a distinction.


GravatarJr. continues to enmbarass himeself by going on CNN and calling himself a lawyer...of course CNN is never concerned about the truth.
dipshit


Not really, shopshit.

Ford couldn't hold a candle to you when it comes to embarrassing onesself. You are a master.


Gravatarok, so what's going on? i went to bed early last night and all was fine. now, it's repug land again. wtf?
me_imperturbe


What makes you think it's repug land again?


Bush is at 33% in the Newsweek poll, the party is imploding - how is it repug land again?


GravatarWolcott, quoting Tony Judt:

"It is thus depressing to read some of the better known and more avowedly ‘liberal’ intellectuals in the contemporary USA exploiting their professional credibility to advance a partisan case. Jean Bethke Elshtain and Michael Walzer, two senior figures in the country’s philosophical establishment (she at the University of Chicago Divinity School, he at the Princeton Institute), both wrote portentous essays purporting to demonstrate the justness of necessary wars – she in Just War against Terror: The Burden of American Power in a Violent World, a pre-emptive defence of the Iraq War; he only a few weeks ago in a shameless justification of Israel’s bombardments of Lebanese civilians (‘War Fair’, New Republic, 31 July). In today’s America, neo-conservatives generate brutish policies for which liberals provide the ethical fig-leaf. There really is no other difference between them."


GravatarWell said.


Thank you. I sure hope I'm right about that last bit....


GravatarFuckers. I'm sorry, but not everyone that criticizes Israel is a kook. They refuse to behave like a responsibility country and verify their nuclear caches, and join the IAEA. They continual spy on us, and play us for saps. Some ally.
garage maha


Word.


Gravatar#2 greatest common factor re child molestation: evangelical and/or fundamental christian background or extreme religion.
#1 is alcohol, which is also the most common consequence of a biblical upbringing. (among the puritans, drink was the only good earthly thing, and they drank cider every day.)


GravatarI noticed an interesting phenomon driving to and from work today. The campaign signs are out all along Lee Highway. The signs for Republicans just have the candidates' names and web address. The signs for Democrats say "Democrat" on them (except for the Webb/Moran signs, which is also interesting).


GravatarBush is at 33% in the Newsweek poll, the party is imploding - how is it repug land again?
Tena

7.8 million bucks


GravatarWhat happened? I went to bed last night and when I woke up all my Cheetohs were gone!


GravatarGood post, Atrios. Never thought about like that, but when incumbents get scared, the tiers start to crumble.

50 State Strategy makes good sense.


GravatarPssssttt...some of y'all may want to tell Harold Ford Jr.that in order to be a lawyer, you have to have had passed the bar exam...trying and flunking it miserably doesn't count.

There's a major crime that will distract everyone from the Repugs in Congress preying sexually on the pages - but but but Ford isn't really a lawyer!

Whooptifuckingdoo!


GravatarEvery day we meet someone new who is sick of Israel lying to them, but the Zionist arguments we usually see are normally at least a few years old.


GravatarThey continually spy on us, and play us for saps,while we subsidize them. Some ally.


GravatarThere's a major crime that will distract everyone from the Repugs in Congress preying sexually on the pages - but but but Ford isn't really a lawyer!


Like the Nancy Pelosi ♥ NAMBLA meme they're pushing. It's fucking ridiculous.


Gravatar"The signs for Democrats say "Democrat" on them"

Aren't some of the toaster signs also using 'Democrat' in big letters?


Gravatar7.8 million bucks
me_imperturbe


Karl Rove is a genius!

I'm worried, people...


GravatarPssssttt...some of y'all may want to tell H--

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Gravatar7.8 million bucks
me_imperturbe


That's not really that much money for the national organizations to have in the bank.

It is alot for them to spend in one day, spread accross so many races, of which the vast majority are for incumbents campaigns.

It is bad for Republicans that this much money has to be spread out among so many.


GravatarNancy Pelosi was the first to call for an investigation of Foley, and while Republicans booed her for it, it passed unanimously


GravatarI'm worried, people...

Worried, I tells ya - WORRIED!!!


GravatarDidn't Saddam's first chemical weapons come from us?

That's all? That's not gonna cover all their legal bills for the next couple of years.


GravatarHell did Holden get another pony?


Shoot he must be hip dip in Pony ... stuff!


GravatarIt is bad for Republicans that this much money has to be spread out among so many.
David (Austin Tx)


You know what's worse for Repugs? Abramoff is gone, Delay is gone, the money machine is broken.


GravatarThat 7.8 million is all going on defense though. They are just trying to stop the bleed. They have given up trying to take any seats from democrats here, and they are in trouble. Can Diebold pull it off for them? Only in races where the polls are close. Diebold won't work when the exit polls are 60-40.


GravatarLike the Nancy Pelosi ♥ NAMBLA meme they're pushing. It's fucking ridiculous.


They're just having a hissy fit because we keep calling them ReNAMBLicans. In the end, it will fly like a brick. Hopefully, if she even dignifies it, Pelosi will slap them silly for having the gall.


GravatarNancy Pelosi was the first to call for an investigation of Foley, and while Republicans booed her for it, it passed unanimously

The GOP are really gonna hate having her running the House.


GravatarBTW, what's with the "y'all" conceit? I can see how you'd use it in speech, whether you wanted to or not, but when you're writing? Sounds like something a Kansas City faggot would say if they were trying to sound like a "normal" person...


GravatarFord lawyer

More of dipshit's monkey shit. It's motherfucking liar dipshit's way of telling us that he hates Bush now. Seeing as how Bush referred to Ford as a lawyer. As did Ford's opponent.

Dipshit: motherfucking liar.


GravatarThat 7.8 million is all going on defense though. They are just trying to stop the bleed. They have given up trying to take any seats from democrats here, and they are in trouble. Can Diebold pull it off for them? Only in races where the polls are close. Diebold won't work when the exit polls are 60-40.
trifecta

this is true, and they were supposed to bankroll big time anyway right before elections.


Gravatartrifecta - Diebold won't work when the exit polls are 60-40.

That and Democrats have got to GOTV. For once.


GravatarThe GOP are really gonna hate having her running the House.

yup. heh.


Gravatardave™© must have the permanent impression of keys on his forhead from all the times he has fallen asleep at his keyboard.

Damn that lame troll induced narcolepsy!


GravatarA lot of what we gave Saddam was money with which to buy weapons from other countries. Arms merchants in Sweden and Italy joined a killing that eventually took in the entire industrialized world, but the whole thing was made possible by the dwarfing support of the American warmongers.


GravatarA WOMAN! An Uppity Woman!! An Uppity Democrat Woman!!!


Gravatar7.8 million bucks
me_imperturbe

Karl Rove is a genius!

I'm worried, people...
Tena


We're done for, we're done for!


GravatarI was going to go to Wake Forest University straight out of high school, instead of the Army.

All I can say, is if I did, I would be going crazy right now.

They are kicking Clemson's ass.


GravatarFake copyright dave, ya'll should shove it up ya'll's ass.


Gravatartrifecta - Diebold won't work when the exit polls are 60-40.

notice how the "our internal poll numbers have us much closer" stories seem to have decreased in frequency?


GravatarYou know what's worse for Repugs? Abramoff is gone, Delay is gone, the money machine is broken.


There's another self-defeating premise of Republican control. All this centralization of fundraising and message discipline has made them highly vulnerable to decapitating surgical strikes. Kind of like the aliens in that stupid movie Independence Day. Once the control center is destroyed, they're all just headless chickens.


GravatarI noticed an interesting phenomon driving to and from work today. The campaign signs are out all along Lee Highway. The signs for Republicans just have the candidates' names and web address. The signs for Democrats say "Democrat" on them (except for the Webb/Moran signs, which is also interesting).

Here locally, one of the candidates for a State Representative seat, who is heavily backed by the local corporate elite and developer interests, is bemoaning "partisan gridlock" in the Oregon legislature in his TV ads. Oregonians know that the legislature has been tilted wingnut R for many years now.

Naturally, he neglects to identify himself as a Republican.


GravatarA WOMAN! An Uppity Woman!! An Uppity Democrat Woman!!!

And a good looking one at that.

Denny's worried she's gonna cut off his "all you can eat" tab at the cafeteria.


GravatarDid any of you know that Denny Hastert's roommate is his cheif of staff?

[...] But Hastert's worth $6 million. Obviously, he could afford a place of his own. | Jennifer - 1:58 pm


Well, maybe it's the chief of staff who's hard up.


GravatarSomehwere in Karl Rove's office is a wall mounted glass fronted box, labelled Spin Control, In Case of Emergency Break Glass. The glass is shattered and the contents have been removed. More horrifying is the fact there is a blood trail leading away from the wall into Rove's private sanctuary.


GravatarBTW, what's with the "y'all" conceit? I

For me, I try to write how I'd talk at the moment. Don't laugh (okay, go ahead and laugh), if I'm in an Indigo Girls' mood, I might toss y'all in because they say that a lot in concert.

I'm a conversational writer, except when I have to write copy for industry.

That's my explanation.


GravatarSounds like something a Kansas City faggot would say if they were trying to sound like a "normal" person...

This faggot was born in the South and is a "normal" person, shitheel.


GravatarOh, Brian, ooops! I mean dipshit is here again?

Run along, Brian. Doesn't Janet have chores for you to do? It's Saturday, after all.


GravatarAll well and good, but I'm so sick of being asked for money (never mind the phone banking, leaflet dropping/ door knocking) I could spit! The party of *Nothing* but pandering has left me cold. I'm not of a mind to serve them til they show some spine. Fuck 'em.


Gravatarafter listening to Brad from Bradblog this morning, discussing voting machines, got me depressed!
He is fucking worried.
None of the problems have been fixed - so this could be a repeat of '04.
We need paper ballets, not a paper trail. A paper trail means nothing cause the votes are taken from the machine!
We need a paper ballet "backup plan," cause these machines will fail!!!


Gravatardave ... is there something you're trying to tell us about? what happened to you in Kansas City?


GravatarWe're done for, we're done for!
Rmj, Street Credentialed


Auntie Em! Auntie Em!


Gravatarnotice how the "our internal poll numbers have us much closer" stories seem to have decreased in frequency?
PoppieProng, Inter Alia | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 2:21 pm |

They spend huge amounts of money on complicated, difficult polls, but if they can't wring fake Bush support out of them (as has been the case lately) they sit on all that wasted money and act like nothing happened.


GravatarLike the Nancy Pelosi ♥ NAMBLA meme they're pushing. It's fucking ridiculous.

You know who else marches in the SF Gay Rights Parade?

PG&E, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Williams-Sonoma, a plethora of city and state workers' organizations...

You know who doesn't march in the SF Gay Rights Parade?

NAMBLA.


GravatarThere's another self-defeating premise of Republican control. All this centralization of fundraising and message discipline has made them highly vulnerable to decapitating surgical strikes. Kind of like the aliens in that stupid movie Independence Day. Once the control center is destroyed, they're all just headless chickens.
blerb


The source of their strength becomes the source of their downfall?

Who'd'a thunk it?

'O Rose, thou art sick....'

Heh. The GOP should have had an English major as an advisor, to warn them about these things.


GravatarLike Vicki, I write like I talk. In fact, I write exactly like I talk.


Gravatar"but but but Ford isn't really a lawyer!"

Yeah, this is great shit:

Republican assholes like Bush: "We don't need another lawyer in the Senate."

Ford responds.

Republican assholes like dipshit: "He called himself a lawyer but blah blah blah blah!"

No wonder lying Republican assholes can't protect America.


GravatarYou know who doesn't march in the SF Gay Rights Parade?

NAMBLA.


Hannity was telling his audience yesterday than NAMBLA not only marches in the parade, but that Nancy Pelosi had lunch with the head of NAMBLA.


GravatarOY!

Hastert is so bloated with pride, hubris and fat that he looks like he's one thin mint away from exploding.


Gravatar"I'm sorry, but not everyone that criticizes Israel is a kook."

The people who criticize Israel most intelligently and forcefully are...Israelis. Unfortunately, American reporters never think to interview them.

We're more likely to have a female or black president than one who has a rational and just policy toward Israel and Palestine.


GravatarThey spend huge amounts of money on complicated, difficult polls, but if they can't wring fake Bush support out of them (as has been the case lately) they sit on all that wasted money and act like nothing happened.

exactly! i like how that they can't even get people to say bush is even a little good.


GravatarDoes anyone read the Wayne Madsen Report?

October 7/8, 2006 -- The rumors about another top GOP member of the House being involved in sexual encounters with young "men for hire" are confirmed to WMR by well-placed sources in Washington's gay community. The member in question is House Speaker Dennis Hastert, whose "alternate" life style is the primary reason for him and his staff covering up the scandal involving ex-Florida GOP Rep. Mark Foley and his lewd messages sent to underage male congressional pages. Hastert's penchant to receive anal sex is well-known to our sources in DC's gay community. Additionally, Hastert's reported extremely small penis is the subject of many jokes among Washington's gay circles.

Holy shit!


GravatarThe party of *Nothing* but pandering has left me cold. I'm not of a mind to serve them til they show some spine. Fuck 'em.
bigvic

Ooooh I so hope I remember to use this next time.


GravatarLike Vicki, I write like I talk. In fact, I write exactly like I talk.
Tena


Yes, you do. And you've heard me talk, so I'm venturin' you'd say the same about me.


Gravatardave - I have friends from the former confederacy who take the time to type out y'all in instant chat in MMOs. It reflects the way they talk.


Gravatarmsgop continues to pimp the idea that dems held the info

contessa brewer could you be a more stupid person --no one is trying to sell this story anymore


GravatarWell, since NAMBLA exists pretty much as a PO box only (except in the fevered minds of Pat Buchanan and wingtards, it's safe to say they aren't marching in ANY parades. They have like what these days - 3 official members?


GravatarOh my! My little Lady Maine Coone, Marie, likes oatmeal cookies.

I shouldn't be too surprised. I had a Siamese once who would drink my orange juice and eat grapes--however, she peeled the grape very carefully before eating it!


GravatarHannity was telling his audience yesterday than NAMBLA not only marches in the parade, but that Nancy Pelosi had lunch with the head of NAMBLA.

Hannity's a lying cocksucker. The orginizers of the parade should give the boy a beatdown over this, as it's slander.


GravatarO fer christ's sake, - how many people even know what NAMBLA stands for?

I had to google it the other day myself.


GravatarYou know what's worse for Repugs? Abramoff is gone, Delay is gone, the money machine is broken.

They still have the ability to raise some serious cash though.

The only thing that was "good" for the Republicans was DeLay. His ability to enforce party discipline was the only thing he had.

Abramoff was a good fundraiser, but it was illegal. There are plenty of legal fundraisers who are quite effective on that side.


GravatarLike Vicki, I write like I talk. In fact, I write exactly like I talk.
Tena


If I did that, it would either be a jumble of letters, a la Boomhower (sp?) on "King of the Hill."

or LOOK LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I'D BE USING THE 'PREACHING' VOICE!

So better I write and speak in completely different ways....


GravatarRe: Writing like talking...

One of the things my mom says about me is that I write the way I talk.


GravatarWayne Madsen is awesome! Check out his new book Jaded Tasks!


Gravatarcrazy poll on CNN
51% happy with the way things are going.
49% unhappy.
I don't get it.


GravatarAnyone who watches South Park knows what NAMBLA is. Got lots of attention there.


GravatarVicki - yeah I can hear your voice now when I read your comments, as a matter of fact.


GravatarO fer christ's sake, - how many people even know what NAMBLA stands for?

I had to google it the other day myself.
Tena


You gotta watch TDS more often....


GravatarAt least Harold Ford was accepted to law school (University of Michigan, no less).

President Chimpy McCokeSpoon was rejected from every law and business school to which he applied. Poppy had to get him into Harvard B School on the Affirmative Action for Stupid Rich People plan.

Brian -- oops! I mean "dipshit," as we know, never made it to college, right Brian?


GravatarWe need a paper ballet "backup plan," cause these machines will fail!!!

the fact that even this simple request is denied strongly suggests that funny games are afoot.


GravatarLOOK LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I'D BE USING THE 'PREACHING' VOICE!





GravatarCan Maine Coon Cats, unlike other cats, taste sugar?


Gravatar'Wash Post' Editor Downie: Everyone in Our Newsroom Wants to Be a Blogger
http:// www.editorandpublisher.co...t_id=1003221716
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Gravatarhttp://www.electoral-vote.com/

A November swing of control of Congress to the Democratic party is possible.
current results:

Projected New Senate:
50 Democrats
49 Republicans
1 tie

Projected New House*:
218 Democrats
216 Republicans
1 Tie


GravatarThe people who criticize Israel most intelligently and forcefully are...Israelis. Unfortunately, American reporters never think to interview them.

There are plenty of Americans who do too, and Israel certainly didn't get to be the way it is because of all those critics. American reporters don't thin at all, they do what they're told, and they inevitably either Zinists themslves or totally owned by Zionists.


Gravatar135th or so?


GravatarThe member in question is House Speaker Dennis Hastert, whose "alternate" life style is the primary reason for him and his staff covering up the scandal involving ex-Florida GOP Rep. Mark Foley and his lewd messages sent to underage male congressional pages. Hastert's penchant to receive anal sex is well-known to our sources in DC's gay community.

Holy. Freaking. Shit.

Aravosis is gonna be pissed!


GravatarO fer christ's sake, - how many people even know what NAMBLA stands for?

Oh, I know:

N = North
A = American Republican
M = Mark Foley Preys on
B = Boy Pages until the
L = Law takes Custody of his
A = Ass


GravatarHannity was telling his audience yesterday than NAMBLA not only marches in the parade, but that Nancy Pelosi had lunch with the head of NAMBLA.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

it's only a matter of days, hours, seconds, when the real repugs stand up and disown Hannity/Rush/Ollie. i think it's already started.


Gravatarwhat's all this YALL stuff anymore ... aint none of yaz ever heard of usin' youin's? (arkansas protest


Gravatar
If I did that, it would either be a jumble of letters, a la Boomhower (sp?) on "King of the Hill."

or LOOK LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I'D BE USING THE 'PREACHING' VOICE!


hahahaha!

i like using "y'all" because A) i grew up in texas, and B) i like that it is one of the few distinctive forms of the second person plural in spoken english. (i've always been jealous of the spanish, french, and italian speakers)


GravatarOne of the things the GOP excells at is direct fundraising from the roots, they got this from direct mail types like Viguire and from accomplished con men like Falwell and Robertson.

The wingnuts set out in the 70's to convert the GOP into a wingnut party, and they've succeeded.


GravatarAfternoon bats!

bigvic --
This cycle please help the lesser of two evils --- it's important!

For those interested in the OH-2 (Mad Jean Schmidt) -- Survey USA has it 45% Schmidt to 42% for Victoria Wulsin (a pro-choice Episcopalian -- Schmidt is, of course, a pro-war Roman Catholic) -- dunno the margin of error, but in the 2004 election the result was 72%-28%
link (scroll down):
http://www.electoral-vote.com/ ev...ouse_polls.html


GravatarPresident Chimpy McCokeSpoon was rejected from every law and business school to which he applied. Poppy had to get him into Harvard B School on the Affirmative Action for Stupid Rich People plan.


Hahahahaha. Even a nit-wit like Commander fuck-up can go only so far on a legacy admission.


GravatarReality vs. Insanity. Who wins in the end?


GravatarCan Maine Coon Cats, unlike other cats, taste sugar?
plantsman, lowercase


I don't think any cats have "sweetness" receptors.


GravatarA WOMAN! An Uppity Woman!! An Uppity Democrat Woman!!!

And they know Pelosi isn't a wimpy Democrat, and who they fear might just have a bit of payback on her mind. Even our pathetic MSM will have to show her face then, as Speaker, grabbing valuable air time telling the public truths.


GravatarAll this centralization of fundraising and message discipline has made them highly vulnerable to decapitating surgical strikes.

I think this scandal is illuminating the dangers of "message discipline". Having all your talking heads say the the same thing can be devastating if people are being repulsed by the message.


GravatarBTW, from what I can gather (and I'm not going to waste too much time on the subject), the brownshirts are bitching about Pelosi being seen with gay rights pioneer Harry Hay. While Hay was not a "member" of NAMBLA, he supported NAMBLA's right to march in Gay Pride Parades, which usually ban the group.

Hay was also a union organizer and a fervent Communist, so... strike three, Dorothy! He died not too long ago; here's an informative look back at his life.


Gravatar3...2...1... till k+y=666 erupts into overt anti-semitism.


Gravatargood background on gerrymandering:

http://www.davidbrin.com/ gerryma...mandering1.html


GravatarHi, Prior! I'm supposed to be working, but I gave up and came home.


GravatarI write like Vicki and Tena talk-- and I've never heard either of them talk!

Coincidence? I think not!


GravatarA WOMAN! An Uppity Woman!! An Uppity Democrat Woman!!!

And a Jew... or a nigger, we're not sure which yet...


GravatarRepubliscum bubblehead on MSNBC, after pushing the BS about Dems being behind the Foley revelations, tells Dem spokesman to get off his talking points and not make allegations when he has no proof.


Gravatar"Holy shit!
Nicole Richie |"

I would not take any stock in that report until there is something concrete to back it up. But given their response to this whole affair, there has to be a lot more going on. I cannot see any reason otherwise outside of intense ego, that Hastert didn't step down for the "good" of his party. If he is into spin control, a mea culpa and step away would likely have stopped a lot of the chaos and damage.

Just doesn't make much sense otherwise.


GravatarI guess I write the way I talk sometimes and other times I don't. I don't write as well as I should in either voice. I'm not nearly as tightassed in person as I am when I write. I'm actually funny in person or at least that's what people have told me.


Gravatarthe brownshirts are bitching about Pelosi

Pelosi is the new Hillary. Bottom line, women with ovaries scare the ever-loving frapping shit out of these guys.


Gravatarthe brownshirts are bitching about Pelosi being seen with gay rights pioneer Harry Hay.

Yes, that's exactly right. Hannity was talking about Hay, and then he said he was "Will Geer's" partner for 8 years.


GravatarWe understand that word to signify violent bigotry directed against what Hannity would call "coastal iuntellectual elites" or its advocacy. Where have we done this?


GravatarSpecial K, yeah, forgot about that, and I've got a buttload of Arkansas relatives. My great aunt used youins all the time.

On the subject of NAMBLA, I first remember hearing about it back in the 70's. It's been kicking around for a long time.

The concept of NAMBLA dates back at least to ancient Greece.


GravatarIf the commander has no empathy with the troops and the public who'll be the ultimate recipients of the warfare, he'll have absolutely no reason to not do it.

Poppy Bush also wanted to prove he was as "tough" as Reagan. Remember the "wimp factor"? A weak initial response followed by overcompensation and a lot of macho "get out of Dodge" rhetoric. It may have played well with the voters in the US, but it also meant that Saddam couldn't leave Kuwait with any kind of face intact, thus pretty much guaranteeing that there would be a war...


GravatarLet Hastert deny it.
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GravatarSo better I write and speak in completely different ways....
Rmj, Street Credentialed


No one wants me to write like I speak.

First off, The Rude Pundit would be tame by comparison. And that would be assuming anyone could understand what I said.


GravatarHey, Prior A!

You the man. My sis-in-law is working against Mean Jean, BIG TIME!


GravatarOh, I thought you said Massage Discipline!


GravatarPresident Chimpy McCokeSpoon was rejected from every law and business school to which he applied. Poppy had to get him into Harvard B School on the Affirmative Action for Stupid Rich People plan.


He was born with a silver cokespoon in his mouth.


GravatarNancy Pelosi had lunch with the head of NAMBLA.

New potatoes, baby peas, and veal, I suppose.


GravatarThis is just me engaging in wishful thinking, but hey:

Let's get rid of all the lobbyists.

Let's get rid of all the consultants.

Let's marginalize the media's beltway insiders.

And let's put every fundamentalist in this country on prescription -- for our own sake.

Then maybe we could start rebuilding this country in an orderly and reasonable fashion without all these leeches draining us of blood...


GravatarBut given their response to this whole affair, there has to be a lot more going on. I cannot see any reason otherwise outside of intense ego, that Hastert didn't step down for the "good" of his party. If he is into spin control, a mea culpa and step away would likely have stopped a lot of the chaos and damage.


Yeah, I was just thinking about this. I don't want to spread allegations about Hastert that are untrue, so I hedge to comment. I would say that I agree that there is something more than meets the eye...and I think it's probably pretty black.


GravatarIf Nancy Pelosi wants to march with the North American Marlon Brandon Look Alikes, I say let her!


GravatarNAMBLA, Studds, Soros, Frank, Clinton, the culture, Democrats, Emmanuel, Pelosi, Pelosi, Pelosi..."


GravatarProjected New Senate:
50 Democrats
49 Republicans
1 tie

Projected New House*:
218 Democrats
216 Republicans
1 Tie
Doug

i'm a pessimist by nature/genetics, and i'm really thinking this is not going to cut it. the polls should be sooooooo much better for us by now.


GravatarJennifer - you write very well. You are very clear and have the ability to put things into words and phrases that sum them up very well.


GravatarHow about this from Wayne Madsen Report?

October 4, 2006 -- SPECIAL ALERT. The Unification Church, the global enterprise of South Korean Rev. Sun Myung Moon (born Yong Myung Moon), may be attempting to take control of the United Nations through the all-but-certain election of South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon as UN Secretary General. Foreign Minister Moon is slated to be formally elected Secretary General on October 9 by the UN Security Council. Moon has already won four straw polls by the UN Security Council and is now considered a shoo-in to replace Kofi Annan.

Some informed UN sources are concerned that Ban Ki-moon lists his religious affiliation as "non-denominational Christian," a code word often used by the "Moonies" for the Unification Church. In addition, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and UN ambassador John Bolton are attempting to have former Washington Times editor Josette Sheeran Shiner become the next Executive Director of the World Food Program. Sheeran Shiner is a member of Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. The term of the World Food Program Executive Director is five years. Shiner is currently the Under Secretary of State for Economic, Business and Agricultural Affairs.


What is it with the Bushies and the Moonies?


GravatarDoes Mimus Pauly have an army of monstous robots he isn't teling us about, and if so, what is to stop him from taking over for his own sake?


GravatarJennifer, I've always admired your posts. You write very well, and you're passionate and funny.

*Mwah!


GravatarAnd they know Pelosi isn't a wimpy Democrat, and who they fear might just have a bit of payback on her mind.

You know, what's really funny to those of us in the Bay Area who have lived with Pelosi for some time now is, around here, she's considered a centrist sell-out by most of the left.

One of the local weeklies has been pissed at her for years for her bill that basically sold off the Presidio to the highest bidder, turning what should be a low-maintenance national park into a high-rent business plaza occupied by the likes of LucasFilms.

At one of her recent public meetings, she got shouted down in a very firm way over her support of the war and refusal to voice support for impeachment.


Gravatarwondering about the funny (specially after the tightass clarification) funny butt?


GravatarRepubliscum bubblehead on MSNBC, after pushing the BS about Dems being behind the Foley revelations, tells Dem spokesman to get off his talking points.

Earlier, she tried to saddle a gays-rights guy with, "but why are gay men so attracted to youth?"
He replied, " well, as far as I know, Britney's not a lesbian."


Gravatar"I would say that I agree that there is something more than meets the eye...and I think it's probably pretty black."

Well, in my paranoid way of thinking, it would have nothing to do with sex scandals or money issues as another possibility.

These guys always give me the feel they are racing against a schedule that has to be met regardless of consequence. And we are not privy to the schedule and it's purpose.

(Huh? What's that? It looks like a black helicopter!)


GravatarWayne Madsen Report

Yea, the Moonies will run the U.N. right after Fritz indicts Rove.


GravatarLet's get rid of all the lobbyists.

Let's get rid of all the consultants.

Let's marginalize the media's beltway insiders.

And let's put every fundamentalist in this country on prescription -- for our own sake.




I believe that if we did the first three, there's no need for the fourth. As a member of a disfavored religion, I've got a pretty strong attachment to the First Amendment. And psychiatric "punishment" of dissidents scares the crap out of me.


GravatarNon-Denominational American Mirimba Lovers asscociation?


GravatarWhere did the bit about Hastert's catching proclivities come from? (The poor pitchers.)


Gravatarjust "venturin'" a guess but is your real name Gladys and not Jennyfur?


GravatarHannity was talking about Hay, and then he said he was "Will Geer's" partner for 8 years.

Grandpa's gay!?!?!?

Where's the fainting couch???


Gravatar"but why are gay men so attracted to youth?"
He replied, " well, as far as I know, Britney's not a lesbian."


Excellent.


GravatarTena - thanks, but I always think it's too dry. There's a lot of folks around these parts whose writing skills I really envy.


GravatarOT -- Thinking of going to see "All the King's Men" tonight. Anyone seen it? Any reviews?

The original is one of my favorite movies and I usually don't go for remakes. But I love Sean Penn, too.
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GravatarHastert's penchant to receive anal sex is well-known to our sources in DC's gay community.

....Young stud-for-hire tries desperately, with all his might, to hold those great, sweaty, heaving buttocks apart in order to get his cock even close to that deeply buried sphincter.....

AAAAAAHHHHHHH! The image, It BUUURNNSSSSSS!!!!!


GravatarThe election is all-but fixed.
As long as we don't have paper ballets, we are screwed, and I don't know what to do to fix it.
Personally, I can't go through another stolen election. I just can't do it...


Gravatar"I guess I write the way I talk sometimes and other times I don't. I don't write as well as I should in either voice.....".
--Jennifer

There are many great comments posted on this blog from many people, and you are one of my favorites.


Gravatarwhat's really funny to those of us in the Bay Area who have lived with Pelosi for some time now is, around here, she's considered a centrist sell-out by most of the left.

This is true, but I knew this because of my ex who lives there, who is very, very liberal. That's how he and I hooked up - liberal politics.

I still maintain I belong in SF, dave. Maybe someday.


GravatarGeer, of course, was also a well-known radical progressive... loved him in "President's Analyst"!


GravatarWhat is it with the Bushies and the Moonies?
jawbone | 10.07.06 - 2:35 pm |

They go way the hell back, and sometimes fight. The Larry E King molestation story was originally broken by the Moonie Times. Neil Bush has appeared at fundraiser events with Moon's tentacle organizations.
The scariest thing the Moonies have done so far is to purchase the land in South America which contains the largest fresh water aquifer. Ostensibly it's for some spiritual resort thing. Do they know something we don't about drinkable water getting much more expensive in a hurry some time soon?


Gravatar....Young stud-for-hire tries desperately, with all his might, to hold those great, sweaty, heaving buttocks apart in order to get his cock even close to that deeply buried sphincter.....

C'mon, it wasn't that bad!


GravatarLet Hastert deny it.

That great, bloated fool is the gift that keeps on giving. Let's cheer him on.
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GravatarI still maintain I belong in SF, dave. Maybe someday.

Maybe Tena can move out, too, and we can all move into that commune she lived in back in 1969 Berkeley!


Gravatardave™© ...

I think I read someplace that Pelosi is the wealthiest member of congress. I don't know where her bucks come from, but she has plenty of 'em. Explains a lot about the origins of her centrism. Takes a lot of rationalizations to protect that kind of cash.


GravatarAgain, re the Pelosi-NAMBLA smear, the best response is: "Show us a picture of the two of them marching together. And if you can't, then sit down and have yourself a hot slice of STFU..."


GravatarGrandpa's gay!?!?!?

Where's the fainting couch???


That's what I said! Hell, he even mentioned, of "The Waltons." I have no idea why...


GravatarCNN talking about the newsweek poll and qualifying everywhich way they can

practically saying poor george a victim of timing
how about a victim of his poor performance


GravatarThinking of going to see "All the King's Men" tonight. Anyone seen it? Any reviews?

Reviews are not good.

The first-time director apparently lets Penn feast on every bit of scenery he can find.


GravatarI'm with Tena: jennifer's the best poster around. And that's saying a lot.


Gravatar"Ollie"

I so much want to see Ollie North in prison, just so I can say 'who's america's traitor bitch now???'


Gravatar(The poor pitchers.)

A little less poor after the reach-around into Big Denny's wallet. Gannons don't grow on trees, you know.


GravatarMaybe Tena can move out, too, and we can all move into that commune she lived in back in 1969 Berkeley!




I'm so there.


GravatarThere's a lot of folks around these parts whose writing skills I really envy.

Jennifer,

Me, too. At least two or three times a day I read something here and go, "Damn. I wish that I'd written that." I'm still incredibly jeallous of whoever it was (strawhat?) who came up with Jenna/not-Jenna.


GravatarI don't know where her bucks come from, but she has plenty of 'em.

Rich hubby. Real estate or something - can't recall offhand.

She got her start as a well-to-do Marin housewife with a lot of time on her hands.


GravatarDo they know something we don't about drinkable water getting much more expensive in a hurry some time soon?
k+y=666 | 10.07.06 - 2:38 pm | #

Potable water is the new oil


GravatarWhy would the Messiah corner the market on all the water in South America, winemaking?


Gravatarthis is so depressing. we are making ourselves neanderthals.
protect the fire!


Gravatar"A little less poor after the reach-around into Big Denny's wallet. Gannons don't grow on trees, you know.
Little Brøther"

Good point; I forgot how it works in Washington Babylon; we're not talking about pro-bono boners.


GravatarI believe that if we did the first three, there's no need for the fourth. As a member of a disfavored religion, I've got a pretty strong attachment to the First Amendment. And psychiatric "punishment" of dissidents scares the crap out of me.

If the fundies went back under the rocks they crawled out from under, I'd be happy.

I don't see any Amish, or Wiccans, or Buddhists trying to tell people how they should live their lives. The Jeebus addled have crossed the line.


GravatarPaper Ballet



GravatarPelosi came from a well-to-do Baltimore family, I had heard.


Gravatar'Wash Post' Editor Downie: Everyone in Our Newsroom Wants to Be a Blogger

That's because they're not allowed freedom of speech, and their idealism is showing through.


GravatarWhy would the Messiah corner the market on all the water in South America,

you're kidding, right?


GravatarWikipedia on Paul Pelosi:

The Pelosi family has a net worth of over $25 million, mainly investments of husband Paul Pelosi. Besides a large portfolio of jointly owned San Francisco Bay Area real estate, he also has millions of dollars worth of shares in publicly traded companies such as Microsoft, Amazon.com and AT&T.


GravatarBush multitasks.


Gravatarjawbone -- What is it with the Bushies and the Moonies?

Haven't read Madsen but my first thought when I head Ki-Moon named was "I wonder if he's related to Rev. Moon." Probably silly, but having a South Korean secretary general with Moon in his name creeped me out. I don't think the Moonies are anything to snort about . . .
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GravatarPelosi came from a well-to-do Baltimore family, I had heard.

her dad was a Baltimore pol, wasn't he?


GravatarNancyP's money comes from her husband Paul who is a real estate developer --family developed ski resorts at Tahoe among other things


Gravatarhow about a victim of his poor performance
liars for bush


but he's the poepualr wartime president america love

well the america CNN taks to


GravatarThese guys always give me the feel they are racing against a schedule that has to be met regardless of consequence. And we are not privy to the schedule and it's purpose.

Heh, well said.


GravatarYes, kidding.


Gravatar"Holy shit!
Nicole Richie |"

I would not take any stock in that report



LBJ decided that he wanted to spread the rumor that an early opponent “fucked pigs.” An aide said: “Well, that’s ridiculous. Why would you want to spread that rumor when you know it's not true?” To which LBJ replied: “I just wanna watch him deny it.”


Let's not waste fairness on these murderous shitheads.
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GravatarI don't see any Amish, or Wiccans, or Buddhists trying to tell people how they should live their lives. The Jeebus addled have crossed the line.

well, in Houston, let me tell you, the Buddhist monks are EVERYWHERE, asking "have you reached nirvana?" and shoving prayer flags in your face.

and don't get me started on the pagans....


GravatarThe moonies can buy up all the sheets of paper (title to water rights) they want, but in the end, they'll be just that: pieces of paper. The people will claim the water that's rightfully theirs, when push comes to shove.


GravatarAll right, bats, I have to clean the living room. Big task. I'll be in and out in stages.

Need to get the living and my bedroom done today. Period.


GravatarFile under "You Lie Down With Dogs:" Foley Case Upsets Tough Balance by Capitol Hill's Gay Republicans.


GravatarI'm a died in the wool upper midwesterner who can count on one hand the number of trips I've made south of Ohio. Doesn't stop me from throwing in an occasional "ya'll" into a post if I'm so moved. It is a part of American slang.

Of course, I'll also throw in an occasional "eh?" as well, living as I do in "almost Canada."


Gravatarwell to do Martian housewife ... mmmmm? What does Pontiac know that we dont?


GravatarBush multitasks.

Wanna hear some fart jokes?


GravatarI think I read someplace that Pelosi is the wealthiest member of congress.

I'm pretty sure that, other than the obvious candidates for stinking rich, that would be Diane Feinstein.

In any case, I have just discovered that H*O*W*A*R*D B*E*R*M*A*N of Van Nuys, the very same H*O*W*A*R*D B*E*R*M*A*N who I voted for for the LA City Council because his Papa stood holding a sign asking that we vote for his son, at the onramp to the San Diego Freeway I used, was appointed to the House Ethics Committee in April. Awwwwwwwww.......... I'm so PROUD!


GravatarOk, now you good people are embarrassing me. I come around here because I find all of you so interesting; it's gratifying to be able to fit in. Kind of like how when I got to architecture school, for the first time in my life, I didn't feel so much like an alien.


GravatarNancy P was never a well do marin housewife

She started out as a Burton-Willie Brwon Demo --she became a fundraiser
for the Dem party, convention chair in 1984 and also worked for Olgivy and Mather

and she raised five children


GravatarJust for kicks, here's a well-known San Francisco nun bitching about Nancy "Sell Out" Pelosi.


GravatarThat's because they're not allowed freedom of speech, and their idealism is showing through.

wouldn't that be amazing? young idealistic reporters screaming at their editors, "I'M TIRED OF BEING A STENOGRAPHER!!!"


GravatarI don't see any Amish, or Wiccans, or Buddhists trying to tell people how they should live their lives.

Merkin Patriot could do something brilliant with this.


Gravatarhe people will claim the water that's rightfully theirs, when push comes to shove.

Agreed, but it will be tres, tres bloody and, for about 40 or 50 years, there'll be a shitload of $$$$ to be made for a group smart enough to make the $$$$$ and move it to Switzerland. Switzerland, BTW, may be one place in Europe that will tolerate global climate change longer than lots of others.


GravatarLet's not waste fairness on these murderous shitheads.
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QuentinCompson

see now, that's what i think the dems need to do. it's time to go bill clinton/ howard dean on their asses and where the fuck are the dems anyway? get off NPR and get on the TV!!!!!!!


GravatarThe first-time director apparently lets Penn feast on every bit of scenery he can find.

Not a good omen.

Penn can do good work, but he will take an inch given and turn it into a mile...he has to be disciplined to produce good work by a firm director's hand.

There are a lot of actors out there who can give restrained, nuanced performances if only they're coerced into them...otherwise they go all William Shatner on us.


GravatarHannity was telling his audience yesterday than NAMBLA not only marches in the parade, but that Nancy Pelosi had lunch with the head of NAMBLA.

GM picked a doozy of a spokesperson, eh? Oh, yeah, GM, I'll believe everything you say about the quality of your cars 'cause ole Sean vouches for you. [snicker]


Gravatarher dad was a Baltimore pol, wasn't he?

Mayor. For many years.


GravatarPlease spell it "y'all" instead of "ya'll".

The misplaced apostrophe really grates on Tena's nerves.


GravatarNancy Pelosi had lunch with the head of NAMBLA.

New potatoes, baby peas, and veal, I suppose.


Or, ala Duncan Hunter: "Oven fried chicken, 3 kinds of fruit, and tea. Sweet tea."

World's greatest asshole.


GravatarNancy P was never a well do marin housewife...

Sorry - I was thinking of Boxer.

Steve Simels regrets the etc...


Gravatarhttp://www.catsofaustralia.com/c...t- nutrition.htm

Discussion of cat nutrional, metabolism, requirements. Cats are considered by scientists, it says, to be strict carnivores, dogs omnivores with primarily carnivore needs. Dogs and cats manufacture their own Vit C in their bodies, so my Siamese did not need orange juice....


GravatarNow - nobody tell Hecate that I've painted the windowframes blue, okay?

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Gravatar"i've had it and i'm not going to take it anymore"
that would be a good commercial


GravatarPlease spell it "y'all" instead of "ya'll".

The misplaced apostrophe really grates on Tena's nerves.


mine, too. it's a contraction of you and all--there's no a in you.


Gravatari'm a pessimist by nature/genetics, and i'm really thinking this is not going to cut it. the polls should be sooooooo much better for us by now.
me_imperturbe


I'm worried, people...

Yeah, we get that about you.


Gravatarjawbone --
Moon paid George H. W. Bush to speak on his behalf in South America -- man gives honest whores a bad name!

Hecate --
Lovely hear -- working outside?

bigvic --
I went to school in Boner's district -- very Red State area -- Wulsin has a tough row to hoe

me_imperturbe --
Agreed, but people are usually reluctant to admit that something THAT BIG is wrong -- even inmates in Stalin's gulag thought EVERYONE ELSE must be guilty -- surely so much misery & suffering couldn't be happening without a cause! People can believe Bush killed thousands of innocent Iraqis & Afghans & US personnel just to prove to his Mommy that his dick was bigger than Daddy's -- we could have all just chipped in & bought him a Hummer!
http://www.gocomics.com/tomtheda...bug/2006/09/16/


GravatarAnybody seen Pelosi's daughter documentaries? She made one about covering Bush. She took heat for being overly kind to the Chimp in Chief.


GravatarThere's a lot of folks around these parts whose writing skills I really envy.

Hecate, you come up with some good stuff at times. Don't discount that or your inspiration will be squelched.

Uncle Smokes, Roadmaster, Virginia, Eli, JeffCO, and the hilarious Merkin Patriot have all written things I've copied down in the past.


Gravatardave™© -- The first-time director apparently lets Penn feast on every bit of scenery he can find.

Thanks. And rats! I wanted it to be good. Better look for an alternative plan. We have to drive 50 miles to see a decent movie and I definitely don't want to see a stinker instead.
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GravatarDo not feel sorry for this Fordham character for one fucking second.

From the NYT "You Lie Down With Dogs" article I linked to upthread:

Mr. Fordham’s history illustrates the potential tensions between private life and professional rhetoric. After leaving Mr. Foley’s office in 2004, he worked as finance director for the campaign of Senator Mel Martinez, Republican of Florida. In that race, a Martinez campaign flier accused a political rival of favoring the “radical homosexual lobby” by supporting hate crimes legislation that included protections for gay men and lesbians.

What a jerk.


Gravatar...otherwise they go all William Shatner on us.

not that there's anything wrong with that...


GravatarI don't see any Amish, or Wiccans, or Buddhists trying to tell people how they should live their lives.

I don't know much about Amish or Buddhists, but Wiccans specifically do not prostelytize.

But the xian fundies could stand on street corners all day long and yell "repent" to no ill effects if we'd (1) take away tax free status for ALL religions and (2) restore fairness to the media.

I don't want to see the First Amendment weakened in any way and i don't want psychiatric treatment used by the government to shut up people that the majority finds offensive.


GravatarC'mon, it wasn't that bad!
Jeff Gannon


Good punchline!


Gravatarwell to do Martian housewife

There's a whole sci-fi novel just waiting to be written...


GravatarI think I read someplace that Pelosi is the wealthiest member of congress.


Woo Hoo! It's great to be RICH! Had enough?


Gravatarthey go all William Shatner on us.

(starts singing 'rocket man')


GravatarPlease spell it "y'all" instead of "ya'll".

Unless one is contracting 'ya all', a regional disease.
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GravatarI love the idea of the Fat Bhastert gay meme.
I'd love to see someone throw this in Hannity's face Monday.
And each time Hannity says Nambla, we say Fat Bhastert could be gay could we hear he spreads his massive cheeks to anyone who'll do him.


GravatarHasidic Jews proseltyze but only to other Jews. Annoying.


Gravatarwell to do Martian housewife

There's a whole sci-fi novel just waiting to be written...
Ridnik Chrome


I think Bradbury touched on this a little.


Gravatar“radical homosexual lobby”
this means people who demand equal rights?


Gravatar"all y'all"

is my afvrite
all y'all


Gravatarthey go all William Shatner on us.

And begin doing Comcast ads?


GravatarUnless one is contracting 'ya all', a regional disease.

hmmmm... i hadn't considered that.

"how ya doin?"
"ya gonna be there tonight?"

okay. i'm beginning to come around on this...

...but i'll still spell it "y'all."


Gravatar(from res's NYT link):
“It’s one of the places the party goes when it’s in trouble,” he said. “A lot of us are holding our breath to see how this plays out.”

I simply cannot understand 1. how a gay person could keep their own lives secret for the purpose to work for a party that at least maintains a fiction of hating them, and 2. how these selfsame gay-hating pols can get away with employing gay staff.


GravatarLovely hear -- working outside?

Dark, cold, rainy. A "perfect" fall day, actually. But perfect for staying inside.

I had nine witches here last night, the energy was incredibly high, and I'm still kind of resting from it all.


GravatarBy rights, it's "all y'all", but "y'all" works just fine.

Hi, y'all.

Bye, y'all. Be back in a bit.


Gravatarit's a contraction of you and all--there's no a in you.

But "wouldn't" is a contraction of "would" and "not"-- and there's not N in "would." What about that, huh?


Gravatarit's a contraction of you and all--there's no a in you.

But "wouldn't" is a contraction of "would" and "not"-- and there's not N in "would." What about that, huh?


GravatarI don't know much about Amish or Buddhists, but Wiccans specifically do not prostelytize.


Praise Jeebuz! I'm so over the crazy fuckers on the *right* and their phony values. They can go straight to hell. Too gay for me!


Gravatarme_imperturbe --
Agreed, but people are usually reluctant to admit that something THAT BIG is wrong -- even inmates in Stalin's gulag thought EVERYONE ELSE must be guilty -- surely so much misery & suffering couldn't be happening without a cause! People can believe Bush killed thousands of innocent Iraqis & Afghans & US personnel just to prove to his Mommy that his dick was bigger than Daddy's -- we could have all just chipped in & bought him a Hummer!

well, i don't believe that that is bush's motive. i don't think the american people believe that either. i think most people believe that bush is the result, not the cause for so much suffering.


GravatarBut "wouldn't" is a contraction of "would" and "not"-- and there's not N in "would." What about that, huh?
Moe Szyslak


I'm'n't telling.


GravatarOh, great, there are a whole bunch of English majors arguing about contractions....



I rest my case.


Gravatarthe plural

"all y'alls"


Gravatarcs art is bread --

Reviews for "All the King's Men" universally execrable (they even change the setting to the 1950s -- no one seems to know why)!

Not much showing currently that i would want to see myself -- can you get to see Helen Mirren in "The Queen"?


Gravatark&y @ 2:38--Moonies into water, huh? My experience with Asians is that they do take an extremely long view economically. And water is the next oil--since it's still difficult to charge for the air we breathe.


Gravatar
I simply cannot understand 1. how a gay person could keep their own lives secret for the purpose to work for a party that at least maintains a fiction of hating them, and 2. how these selfsame gay-hating pols can get away with employing gay staff.


i don't get it either. i knew a young gay republican in indiana. he only liked them because of the low taxes stance. started coming around to the fact that, if he was REALLY paying A LOT in taxes, that meant that he was making A LOT of money.


GravatarBut "wouldn't" is a contraction of "would" and "not"-- and there's not N in "would." What about that, huh?
Moe Szyslak

can we stop with all the yall shit. just don't put anything there and you'll be ok.


Gravatar"I simply cannot understand 1. how a gay person could keep their own lives secret for the purpose to work for a party that at least maintains a fiction of hating them."

Happens whenever minorities are oppressed; they internalize the hatred, and join with their oppressor, from "house niggers" to Roy Cohn to Alberto Gonzalez...


GravatarMay I just say that where else on the Internet do you find such awesome conversation?

Okay, my living room won't clean itself.


GravatarI think I read someplace that Pelosi is the wealthiest member of congress.


it said in her Wikipedia article, which BTW is locked b/c of "recent vandalism", that her family is worth around $25 mil. That's quite a chunk of change, but I'll bet that's a far cry from the wealthiest member of congress.


GravatarThose wacky Iraqis!


GravatarMay I just say that where else on the Internet do you find such awesome conversation?


It's what keeps me coming back.


Gravatar“radical homosexual lobby”
this means people who demand equal rights?


wingnut logic : if we give the gays equal rights, then everyone will want to become gay.


GravatarI'm'n't telling.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers

I've heard that as "Am'n't telling" too.


Gravataror is it


"all y'all"


GravatarHannity was telling his audience yesterday than NAMBLA not only marches in the parade, but that Nancy Pelosi had lunch with the head of NAMBLA.

And W. has hung out with Foley on occasion. Hannity's point? SMEAR.

Hannity, Carlson, et al, need to grabbed by the hair and have their heads pounded into the pavement.


GravatarWe have to drive 50 miles to see a decent movie and I definitely don't want to see a stinker instead.
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cs art is bread

Did you see Little Miss Sunshine yet?Really good.


Gravatarfracking tags.


Gravatari don't get it either. i knew a young gay republican in indiana. he only liked them because of the low taxes stance. started coming around to the fact that, if he was REALLY paying A LOT in taxes, that meant that he was making A LOT of money.
PoppieProng, Inter Alia

Known in some circles as BBQs: bank balance queers.


Gravatarremember how in 1984, the language got all revised, so that vowels were dropped?

rmmbr?


Gravatar
But "wouldn't" is a contraction of "would" and "not"-- and there's not N in "would." What about that, huh?


um...

um...

well... um...

hmmm.... it's because, um... well, it's because it would look funny as would'n't (and not save any space to boot), now wouldn't it?



GravatarThe case for ya'll vs. y'all:

If the contraction is presumed to be a contration of "ya all" (which would be more in line with Southern patterns of speech than "you all"), then ya'll makes perfect sense. In other contractions: isn't, didn't, wouldn't, couldn't, you'll, the vowel from the second word is what is being dropped in all cases, though sometimes a consonant is dropped as well; the apostrophe takes the place of the dropped vowel. The first word retains its vowel(s). Thus, "ya'll" better fits the pattern for contractions.


GravatarOh, great, there are a whole bunch of English majors arguing about contractions....

And they're coming two minutes apart now.

A Baby shall come soon, and we shall call him "Webster".


GravatarThe Lincoln Logs sold themselves out after 2000 -- During the 2000 Campaign the frozen face of the Republicans Mary Matalin said the Republicans would support gay marriage --of course when they needed the fundies back it was see ya later to the gay community

During 2004 when it came up again -Republicans who are gay said they were willing to have their issues come later and it was for the great good....these are Tammy Bruce Republicans --from the self loathing wing

gay republicans are like charlie brown and lucy forever holding out hope they won't get kicked again


Gravataris Pelosi "the richest memebr"
like John Kerry was the "most liberal member"?


Gravatarremember how in 1984, the language got all revised, so that vowels were dropped?

rmmbr?


ys, d .


GravatarI simply cannot understand 1. how a gay person could keep their own lives secret for the purpose to work for a party that at least maintains a fiction of hating them, and 2. how these selfsame gay-hating pols can get away with employing gay staff.

I strongly suspect that they go into this knowing that the most virulent homophobes are deep closet cases, thinking that this will give them leverage.

However, on the surface, it's mind-boggling that they'd work with a party that ostensibly panders to people who would not have the slightest moral objection to rounding up gays and processing them through vernichtungslagern.


GravatarDid you see Little Miss Sunshine yet?Really good.
footloose


A riot!


GravatarThe chances of my posts being duplicated by Haloscan are apparently directly proportional to their stupidity.


GravatarCasto has visited the UN in New York many times on state business. I'm certain there were UN dinners. Every US official who attended that dinner is a communist supporter.

Right, Mr.Hannity?


GravatarHappens whenever minorities are oppressed; they internalize the hatred, and join with their oppressor, from "house niggers" to Roy Cohn to Alberto Gonzalez...
davidmizner

ask almost any woman in america. they'll explain it to you.


GravatarIt's what keeps me coming back.

I come for the hash bar and stay for the ladies.


Gravatardims ima gettin outta yer cities. yer cities of sickness. yer cities of perpetual rain. yer cities of the plague. yer cities of forestalling darkness. yer cities of dead falconers. yer cities of hanging alligators. yer cities of black hole dreams. yer cities ruled by intellectuals and thugs. yer cities of innocence sold and then sold again. yer cities where the wounds never heal. yer cities without the songs of birds. F YER CITIES!

ima moving to Livingston Montana dims...


GravatarNoun 1. lawyer - a professional person authorized to practice law, conduct lawsuits or give legal advice.

Synonyms: attorney


Who knew?


GravatarCNN bubblehead: Foley checks himself into rehab and his attorney says he's dealing with a whole host of personal problems from being abused as a teenager to being gay to needing help with his alcoholism.

Hey, Fredericka, how are you dealing with the problem of being female?


Gravatarsimply cannot understand 1. how a gay person could keep their own lives secret for the purpose to work for a party that at least maintains a fiction of hating them, and 2. how these selfsame gay-hating pols can get away with employing gay staff.

i meant to quote this one not yours, davidmizner


GravatarOh for g'ness sakes.

It's You All. All of YOU. You All. In the deeper south it gets faded into youall, and from there into y(glottal stop)all or y'all. The apostrophe substitutes for the glottal stop which is not common in most US English speech. Those of us whose people were from the Oklahoma/Missouri/Arkansas region actually say 'you all'.


Gravatar"alls y'alls"


GravatarLivingston Montana

I hope to god they don't have Internet there.


GravatarThe chances of my posts being duplicated by Haloscan are apparently directly proportional to their stupidity.
Moe Szyslak


The chances of mine getting quoted for comment is directly proportional to the number of grammatical errors contained therein.


GravatarSomeone's going to be a dental floss tycoon.


GravatarJennifer is correct -- it is "ain't" & it is "ya'll" (both "non-standard")

BTW -- billmon picked a lousy week to stop blogging -- so he didn't -- but a lot of stuff got buried -- like the "Velvet Bund" being common knowledge -- but liberals respect other people's privacy:
http://billmon.org/archives/002795.html


Gravatargeez, it took an hour?


GravatarIf the contraction is presumed to be a contration of "ya all" (which would be more in line with Southern patterns of speech than "you all"),

Where do you get that the pronunciation "ya" is southern?

What I have heard most often in NC sounds like its got an umlaut u in it -- "Yuue" all. I guess there's a fair amount of "yuh" all out there to. But Ya? That doesn't compute for me.


Gravatardims ima gettin outta yer cities.

I think I speak for everyone when I say, we'd be happy if you'd just get the fuck off of this blog.


GravatarWho knew?

Asked and answered.

dipshit: motherfucking liar.


Gravatarthe gayest part of San Fransisco
is names after Castro therefore all Gays are commies


GravatarDenny Hastert is a sodomite!


GravatarI had a girlfriend once from Latrobe, PA, who used to say "you'sens".


GravatarNoun 1. lawyer - a professional person authorized to practice law, conduct lawsuits or give legal advice.

Synonyms: attorney

Who knew?
Harold Ford Jr.

you wanna do the same thing for the Prez? oh yeah, he already did...."my job is to do my job"


GravatarWho knew?

Who cared?


GravatarG-damn it!!

I got new stationary and everything.


Gravatarwingnut logic : if we give the gays equal rights, then everyone will want to become gay.

Sadly, yes, this is wingnut "logic".

Similar to a lot of war on drugs rhetoric, which states we'll all become junkies if the stuff was made legal.


GravatarHere in Chicago, we have a beautiful system of incumbency protection. It's call Tax Increment Financing.

It's simple - TIF districts are created to spur development in "blighted" areas. Property taxes in these "blighted" areas are then baselined, and all "incremental" tax revenues are funnelled into little kitties that the city and the aldermen control. It ends up being hundreds of millions of dollars over the 23 year life of these TIF districts.

The best part? The city and the aldermen enter into contracts with their cronies and buddy developers, who then funnell campaign contributions back to them and the mayor as well.

Maybe that's not the best part. The real best part is that the law defining "blighted" is so vague, that even the most vibrant area of the city - the Loop - is now designated as a "blighted" area, with a TIF that will suck $500 Million dollars out of the property tax funds that go to our schools, parks, county hospitals, forest preserves, etc.

Then, when the county runs a huge deficit and needs to raise taxes, you can blame the county, not the city.

It's beautiful! Ingenious!

Check out What the Helen for details.


Gravatar"alls y'alls"

i had a friend from a different part of texas than me, and he always greeted people with "how y'all are?" but it really never sounded like a question.

always confused me.


GravatarDenny Hastert is a sodomite!

Now, Sonny, we don't know this.

What we do know is that he's a disgusting tub of goo, though.


GravatarSimilar to a lot of war on drugs rhetoric, which states we'll all become junkies if the stuff was made legal.

wellllll.... i might.


GravatarOh, dear: Just clicked on Riverbend's blog to see if she's posted since Aug. 5.

No new posts. Worrisome.


GravatarThis scandal is really giving us a good look at contemporary conservativsm's black heart:

"Where does post-modern American ethics place Mark Foley's homosexuality on a scale of 1 to 10 - a 1 being just another gay guy and a 10 being a compulsive, predatory sex offender?" - Daniel Henninger in the Wall Street Journal


Gravatar I had a girlfriend once from Latrobe, PA, who used to say "you'sens".
Moe Szyslak


Pennsylvania Deutsch. We retained remnants of it - and I still occasionally tell someone to outen the light....


Gravatari had a friend from a different part of texas than me, and he always greeted people with "how y'all are?" but it really never sounded like a question.

Sounds like German sentence structure disease, to me.

Lots of Germans running around in Texas. Big problem in the upper midwest and Pennsylvania, too.


GravatarBush the Elder visited Indonesia after the tsunami/earthquake.

It's a Muslim country, I guess that makes Poppy a terrorist.

Right, Mr.Hannity?


GravatarDenny Hastert is a sodomite!
Sonny Disposition


he once talked to ken mehleman
erego he is a soddomite by association


GravatarHastert = sodomite


GravatarHeh. Just thought of something...

Remember that miserable "Wuzzadem" cunt? The one who made the comic strip of "liberal mom" who neglects to supervise kid on computer and kid becomes a suicide bomber. She should revise that as follows:

Conservative MOM (CM): (with Marilyn Quayle flip hairdo): "Whatcha doing?"

Son: Homework. (IM screen from MAF45 reads "Do you have a ruler handy?"

CM: On your computer?

Son: I'm getting help from Mark. He's a congressman! (IMs: "Hold on. My mom's here.")

CM: He's a Republican, congressman right?

Son: Uh-huh. (IM screen reads: "Take out a ruler and measure it.")

CM: Oh, okay then. I don't want you talking with any of those nasty liberals. What does he want you to measure?

Son: The distance between Grover Norquists Wednesday morning meeting and Karl Rove's office. (Types: "My mom's here! Cool it!"

CM: Oh, that's nice honey. Okay, I have a meeting at the Mall of America Megachurch. Back later. Do your homework or dad will beat you bloody again, okay?

Son: Uh-huh. (IM screen reads: "Do you wank it after she leaves?")


GravatarThe Pelosi/NAMBLA connection being touted by various trolls on various blogs (And Hannity as well, it seems) is quite a stretch, to say the least. Here's where all the froth apparently started, an article in the American Spectator about the 2001 SF Pride Parade...

"Celebrant number 31 was the late Harry Hay. Harry, it seems, was quite the guy. [snip] Which makes one curious about the presence of marcher number 34 in the 2001 Pride Parade. Marching a mere three spots away from the famous Harry Hay, no doubt waving and smiling to the crowd, was, as the Chronicle logged her in the Official Guide and Program Parade Lineup: "U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi."

And here's the Wiki entry for Harry Hay.


GravatarBeen noticing something interesting at some of the conservative forums. A lot of social conservatives are sort of going into the "not a dimes worth of difference" mentality that we saw of the naderites in 2000.

That can only bode well.


GravatarNancy Pelosi | 10.07.06 - 3:05 pm | #

Remember, trollie: the future belongs to those who can spell!


GravatarSounds like German sentence structure disease, to me.

Lots of Germans running around in Texas. Big problem in the upper midwest and Pennsylvania, too.


ficken krauts, ruining our language!


(that's what i love about english, actually, that it's a mish-mash of romance and germanic languages.)


GravatarI think I speak for everyone when I say, we'd be happy if you'd just get the fuck off of this blog.

Either give dipshit a good spanking, (what he really wants) or ignore the stinking mess.


GravatarOh, dear: Just clicked on Riverbend's blog to see if she's posted since Aug. 5.

No new posts. Worrisome.
jawbone


Have you checked the Gitmo prisoner roster?


GravatarBwahahahaha

US News

Faux News
Internal polling data from a prominent GOP pollster, however, show that House Republican candidates will suffer massive losses if Hastert remains speaker until Election Day. A GOP source briefed on the polling data told Fox News that the data suggest House Republican losses could be catastrophic if Hastert's speakership continues. Still, the GOP source familiar with the polling data said that while most GOP lawmakers have stood by Hastert, pending a full airing of the facts in his handling of the Foley matter, this data now suggest that many voters have already made up their minds. "The data suggest Americans have bailed on the speaker," the source told Fox News. "And the difference could be between a 20-seat loss and a 50-seat loss.'"

Scott Rasmussen
Sixty-one percent of American adults believe that Republican leaders have been "protecting [Mark] Foley for several years." A Rasmussen Reports national opinion survey conducted Tuesday and Wednesday nights shows that only 21 percent believe that the leadership "just learn[ed] about Foley's problems last week. The data support speculation that this issue could have a devastating impact on Republican prospects at the polls this fall. Even among Republicans, 31 percent believe the GOP leadership has been protecting Foley. Just under half (46 percent) of the GOP faithful believe that congressional leaders just learned about the problem.

Lastly, a diligently nonpartisan AP-Ipsos poll "found about half of likely voters say recent disclosures of corruption and scandal in Congress will be 'very' or 'extremely' important when they cast their votes. That group is much more likely to vote Democratic."


GravatarThat can only bode well.
Bogsville


Nothing like trying to hoodwink an entire segment of the population. And nothing like the scorn from that population when it finds out it's been had!


GravatarRemember that stupid "Wuzzadem" cunt's little comic strip? Oh, we could do wonders with that little narrative now, couldn't we?


GravatarBut none are closer than Scott Palmer is to Denny Hastert. They don't just work together all day, they live together.

Hastert = sodomite!


Gravatarthe dipshit-americans will vote republican

the mighty 30!


GravatarI had a girlfriend once from Latrobe, PA, who used to say "you'sens".
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:05 pm | #


Musta been all that Rolling Rock.


GravatarI had a girlfriend once from Latrobe, PA, who used to say "you'sens".
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:05 pm | #


Musta been all that Rolling Rock.


GravatarCasto has visited the UN in New York many times on state business. I'm certain there were UN dinners. Every US official who attended that dinner is a communist supporter.

He also spoke at the Riverside Church.


Gravatardims ima gettin outta yer cities. yer cities of sickness. yer cities of perpetual rain...

Can you hear me snapping my fingers, dith?


GravatarChrist is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And upon those in the tombs
Bestowing life!


GravatarIf the contraction is presumed to be a contration of "ya all" (which would be more in line with Southern patterns of speech than "you all"), then ya'll makes perfect sense.
Jennifer


Yes, but it isn't.

As a lifelong Southerner, believe me when I say it's "yew awl." Y'all.

Come spend some time in the South before presuming to tell us how we speak.


GravatarI'm going to go back out for a minute and get me some of those little cocktail weinies with the cheese inside. I'm such a sucker for stuff like that.

steve simels apologises to you all.


Gravatari had a friend from a different part of texas than me, and he always greeted people with "how y'all are?" but it really never sounded like a question.

always confused me.
PoppieProng, Inter Alia


Justin Wilson, the "Cookin' Cajun," popularized that on his TV show.


GravatarI am happy to see the Democrats are practicing voter suppression --usually a republican strategy

this all seems good to me
I don't want to see fundies voting
It looks like they are going to be beaten at their own game


Gravatardims ima gettin outta yer cities. yer cities of sickness. yer cities of perpetual rain...

Cities of perpetual rain?

dith, are you under the impression that you are living in Blade Runner?

Or have you been reading the Legend of John Titer too much?


Gravatarso, harry hay was not the founder or chair or even related to or a memeber of that organization.

can we use this as a reference mark for how low we are to go as well? can we, say, explain how eric rudolf was able to stay alive in the appalachians for so long? let's start the rumor that eric rudolf was funded by the ..... GOP, yeah, that's the ticket.


Gravatardims ima gettin outta yer cities. yer cities of sickness. yer cities of perpetual rain...

Cities of perpetual rain?

dith, are you under the impression that you are living in Blade Runner?


Hmmm....

Could be that dith is in Portland or Seattle...

Which is way too close to me...


GravatarAnd here's the Wiki entry for Harry Hay.


So Pelosi standing somewhere near an old, iconic figure in the LGBT rights movement who for a time inexplicably defended these guys somehow equates with her "marching with the head of NAMBLA"?? I wonder, what "she had lunch with him" amounts to? Maybe all the people at he head of the parade had lunch together? And even if she sat across from him and talked to him, it's beyond obvious that there was a great deal more to Hay that the fact that he advocated for the tolerance of NAMBLA at one time.

Man, is this some thin gruel! They are truly desperate if they are trying to spin this.


GravatarRidnik Chrome,

Really enjoyed meeting you last night. Thanks for coming by.


Gravatarjac - given that I've never lived anywhere other than Georgia and Arkansas, I think I have a pretty good idea of how Southerners talk. Even to the point of being able to distinguish the different regional variations in accent.


GravatarThose of us whose people were from the Oklahoma/Missouri/Arkansas region actually say 'you all'.

Actually, both, Dr.

Ya'll is easier, But 'you all' gets its share.


GravatarCould be that dith is in Portland or Seattle...

Which is way too close to me...
Apprentice to Darth Holde


Somebody already outed him as being in New York. He claims he's moving to Montana (going to wrangle dental floss).

I haven't bothered to tell him how popular he will be in the mountain west if he is from NYC.


GravatarI hear "you all" down here exactly as often as I hear "y'all."


GravatarThose of us whose people were from the Oklahoma/Missouri/Arkansas region actually say 'you all'.

Actually, both, Dr.

Ya'll is easier, But 'you all' gets its share.


The Ozark types like to use "you uns" a lot. My grandmother and great aunt were "you uns" types.


GravatarHaving grown up in Virginia, it always bothered me when northerners would make fun of southerners with the "y'all" thing, said to one person. Idiots. "Y'all" is plural.

Nowadays, I say "vous."


GravatarErin will have me hunted down and killed for saying this, but it really doesn't rain incessantly in Portland and Seattle. We just allow the impression to linger in a vain attempt to suppress the population growth rate.


GravatarIm not from NYC, I'm in the West somewhere. Ive only been to NYC once...


GravatarMother's family from PA -- "rede up the room" was normal -- "clothes press" well -- other things escape me

FWIW -- there is no such thing as "a" "Southern accent" -- there are regional accents all over this country -- I always thought I had the "Hi there, I'm from nowhere" accent of a baby boomer raised by TV -- a priest from Georgia who studies regional accents told me, "You speak Highland Southern -- either from Southwest Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Southern Ohio or Southern Indiana -- I'd guess Southeastern Ohio." (He was, of course, correct -- otherwise, I wouldn'y tell the story, now would I?)


GravatarPelosi and nambla charge
the facts don't matter to people like
Patty O'Bigot Buchanan --but it is important to keep reminding the media that it is not true and if they permit it they are just as guilty as the liars

they will be responsible for an increase in gay bashing the death of the next matthew shepherd will be on their hands for this kind of lying


GravatarSomebody already outed him as being in New York. He claims he's moving to Montana (going to wrangle dental floss).

Raisin' it up.
Waxin' it down.
In a little white box
I can sell uptown


GravatarIm not from NYC, I'm in the West somewhere. Ive only been to NYC once...

And how was Bolton? He show you a good time at the local leather club?


Gravatardims ima gettin outta yer cities. yer cities of sickness. yer cities of perpetual rain...

Gonna make it harder to get your welfare benifits, ain't it?


GravatarIf dith was really from NYC he wouldn't give a rat's fat ass how popular he'd be anywhere. That said, if dith is really in NYC, I'm tempted to tell him to show his face at a certain watering hole about two hours from now. I know a few people who would like to buy him a beer...and then dump it on his head.


GravatarPeople used to fear that everyone would have that TV anchor accent, but I read recently that regional dialects in the states have actually grown deeper.


GravatarRes -- Had an excellent time myself, and enjoyed meeting you, QL, Athenae and everybody else who was there (including the many lurkers). Wish I could attend the dinner and the picnic, too, but have major social obligations with the GF and her family...


GravatarWell, if we're going to play regional nitpicking, I blame southerners for the rampant mispronunciation of Detroit as DEE-troit, when it should be de-TROIT, or if we're really nodding at our roots, Day-TWAH.


GravatarFWIW -- there is no such thing as "a" "Southern accent" -- there are regional accents all over this country

That's very true. There are I don't know how many different regional southern dialects and accents, but each one is different than the other. People from Tennessee talk entirely differently than people from Georgia.


Gravatarthe facts don't matter to people like Patty O'Bigot Buchanan

True dat.

I have often said that my WASP ancestors really fucked up allowing Buchanan's Irish Catholic ancestors into the country.


Gravatardith, where are you, hon? Salt Lake City? Brokeback Mountain? Where, babe?


GravatarNo problem, Ridnik. Wasn't it great that we had longtime lurkers? I got a kick out of that.


GravatarWell, if we're going to play regional nitpicking, I blame southerners for the rampant mispronunciation of Detroit as DEE-troit, when it should be de-TROIT, or if we're really nodding at our roots, Day-TWAH.
sister of ye


Excuse me? Detroit is not a southern city, so how is that our fault?

I should think people from Detroit would pronounce Detroit the way they think is right, never mind what someone in Athens, Ga. says.


Gravatar"These guys always give me the feel they are racing against a schedule that has to be met regardless of consequence. And we are not privy to the schedule and it's purpose."

Picture an economic chart showing, as usual, most people somewhere in a slowly rising curve that suddenly makes a huge leap where the rich and super-rich dwell.

Mirror this image about its axis, now you have a rocket ship with massive first-stage engines, then other stages, till the payload at the top (the super-rich)

This is the escape plan, the golden starship. The masses are destined to be reaction mass. Only the payload will leave orbit.

So one either: becomes rich and enters the capsule, or one slows the escape and awaits the technology to advance to a point where the payload can be increased.

There is a third option: the nose cone. Where all the scanners and communication devices are stored. This allows the possibility of escape via uploading. From a sentient nose cones' viewpoint, the payload is reaction mass. So, learning computers allows for an escape.


GravatarTena, sister of ye is just snarkin'.


GravatarSister of ye, come on: Detroit is pronounced MOE TOWN. Simple


GravatarI see my offhand fucking-around comment about apostrophe placement in "y'all" has generated a buzz.

Is anyone else occasionally surprised by how a throwaway comment will get attention, yet comments that are more involved sink like a stone?

I'm perfectly aware that "more involved" can mean prolix, irrelevant, self-absorbed, tedious, and all of the above, so I'm not saying that more substantive comments necessarily deserve to capture the discussion.

I suppose it's like a comedian finding that an ad lib gets a bigger laugh than some jokes that the comedian has worked on and polished. I'm not complaining-- just wondering if anyone else experiences this phenomenon here.


GravatarWell, if we're going to play regional nitpicking, I blame southerners for the rampant mispronunciation of Detroit as DEE-troit, when it should be de-TROIT, or if we're really nodding at our roots, Day-TWAH.

I had a friend in the army from Michigan who prounounced the name of the wicked city near Windsor as DEE-troit.

I always thought it was de-TROIT myself. But yeah you can make a strong case for Day-TWAH if you've studied French.


GravatarPrior Aelred -- Unfortunately "The Queen" isn't here yet.

Our choices beyond "AtKM" are:

THE ILLUSIONIST
HEADING SOUTH
JESUS CAMP
LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
THE OH IN OHIO
THE DEPARTED
...SO GOES THE NATION

Reviews, opinions anyone?
.


GravatarI blame southerners for the rampant mispronunciation of Detroit as DEE-troit

My better half was morn in MI and lived in Flint for 13 years until her parents moved back to AR.

I say DEE-triot just to piss her off. After 27 years, she still corrects me.

I got a bud that's from North Joisey. He hates it when I accent the Mc in McDonalds as in MAC-Donalds. Same reason as above.


Gravatarright now I'm somewhere not too far from the Pacific coast...


GravatarIs anyone else occasionally surprised by how a throwaway comment will get attention, yet comments that are more involved sink like a stone?





All the time. Some of mine of which I am not terribly proud seem to have staying power.


Gravatarhey coingate repugs, will you blame this timing on the "liberal media" too?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/...r=1& oref=slogin


GravatarSister of ye, come on: Detroit is pronounced MOE TOWN. Simple
DWD


I like the sound of that.


GravatarPeople from Tennessee talk entirely differently than people from Georgia.

And OYMOYGAWD! Peopuhl from Lawn Guyland tawk totally FRICKin' diffrint dan peopuhl from duh Broinx.


GravatarI did my volunteer work for my state house candidate today. Her opponent, a noxious little puke named Farhat accused her of being in league with a Muskegon group with ties to Al Quida.

(I read that and burst out laughing. WTF? Muskegon, MI may be a lot of things but a hotbed of Al Quida supporters? Oh my.)


GravatarTena, sister of ye is just snarkin'.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore



[red faced] - D'oh!


Gravatarthe one time I was in NYC it was 1994 - I drank at the West End bar...accross from the campus there...then we went to the Anchor Bar...and like the Jungle Bar...sumpin' like dat....


GravatarHow many ways do people from different parts of Alabama (& different social classes AND different ethnic groups) have of prouncing "Birmingham"?

(The extremes I can think of are "Buminum" & "Buhrminghayum")


Gravatardith, I'm concerned about your drinking, sweetpea.


GravatarI'm not from NYC, I'm in the West somewhere...

Dith is a cowboy. Just like Ronald Reagan...


Gravatarfootloose -- Ah, thanks. That one is playing.
.


GravatarI suppose it's like a comedian finding that an ad lib gets a bigger laugh than some jokes that the comedian has worked on and polished. I'm not complaining-- just wondering if anyone else experiences this phenomenon here.
Little Brøther


Yes, my brøther, that would be the case. Often.


GravatarI should think people from Detroit would pronounce Detroit the way they think is right, never mind what someone in Athens, Ga. says.

There's a suburb of Augusta GA called Martinez.

I look at that and see mar-TEEN-ez.

But the locals say mar-tin-EZ.

Oh well.

Ok, here's a serious shibboleth for you all (y'all, you uns, whatever...)

How do you pronounce Willamette?


GravatarI read recently that regional dialects in the states have actually grown deeper.

What aboot the provinces, eh?


GravatarIs anyone else occasionally surprised by how a throwaway comment will get attention, yet comments that are more involved sink like a stone?

Little Brother, I am still kind of pissed off that no one wants to talk about hot and cold media and Marshall McLuhan or my theory on the denigration of sexual roles in modern society: what makes a man and what makes a woman.

But, we can talk all night to some pissant troll . . . .


Gravatar"Only the payload will leave orbit."
--Mike

Considering the destruction of the environment, this will have to be taken literally. Has someone been constructing a subdivision on Mars the elite can inhabit?


GravatarDith is a cowboy. Just like Ronald Reagan...

And George Felix Macacastein Allen Junior!


GravatarWill-a-Met.


GravatarI'm not from NYC, I'm in the West somewhere...

Maybe a Camarillo Brillo?


Gravatarthe one time I was in NYC it was 1994 - I drank at the West End bar...accross from the campus there...

Well, no wonder they just tore the place down!


GravatarOT: Henry Waxman is fighting the good fight! The White House is trying to scapegoat Susan Ralston:

The bipartisan report released by the Government Reform Committee documented 485 lobbying contacts between Mr. Abramoff and his associates and White House officials, including 186 contacts that occurred over meals, many at exclusive restaurants in Washington. Ms. Ralston accounts for just a small fraction of these lobbying contacts and meals. According to the documents released by the Committee, she was involved in just 69 of the lobbying contacts (less than 15%) and just 14 of the meals (less than 10%). The vast majority of lobbying contacts and meals with White House officials documented in the report were with White House officials other than Ms. Ralston.

http://www.housedemocrats.gov/ ne..._content_id=948


GravatarOT: Henry Waxman is fighting the good fight! The White House is trying to scapegoat Susan Ralston:

The bipartisan report released by the Government Reform Committee documented 485 lobbying contacts between Mr. Abramoff and his associates and White House officials, including 186 contacts that occurred over meals, many at exclusive restaurants in Washington. Ms. Ralston accounts for just a small fraction of these lobbying contacts and meals. According to the documents released by the Committee, she was involved in just 69 of the lobbying contacts (less than 15%) and just 14 of the meals (less than 10%). The vast majority of lobbying contacts and meals with White House officials documented in the report were with White House officials other than Ms. Ralston.

http://www.housedemocrats.gov/ ne..._content_id=948


GravatarBut, we can talk all night to some pissant troll . . . .
DWD- Fortified with Resolve


I'll e-mail you my thoughts on that. A couple certain folks live for the trolls. When I see that shit, I'm either off, or in a REALLY good mood so I just scroll on by.


Gravatarcs (etc.) --

I would so love to see "Jesus Camp"!

Fr Wm liked "The Illusionist"

Most people liked "Little Miss Sunshine" -- some thought it overhyped -- last thing I saw was "Hollywoodland" -- I would highly recommend it for any male baby boomer -- dunno how others would react


GravatarI got nothing, just wanted to do a quick fly by and get a post in from Toledo.

And just give Hastert a new excuse: It's all cause Lou let Mary have a job in the newsroom.


Gravatarcs art is bread,

"Sunshine" is pretty good.


GravatarNoun 1. lawyer - a professional person authorized to practice law, conduct lawsuits or give legal advice.

Synonyms: attorney

Who knew?
Harold Ford Jr.


Oh [clutches pearls convulsively] we're ruined. RUINED I say! Harold Ford, with a JD from a law school, is passing himself off as a lawyer! And all the Repugs have going against them is a nothing little scandal about some teenage boys working as pages in Congress being sexually preyed upon by a Repug Congressman, and all the Repugs in Congress well aware of it and madly covering it up.

The Democrats are RUINED!


GravatarAnd OYMOYGAWD! Peopuhl from Lawn Guyland tawk totally FRICKin' diffrint dan peopuhl from duh Broinx.
Pam @ Atlas Shrugs




This one tickles the shit outta me. A hell of a lot funnier'n Merkin or the ever-present dith.


GravatarBarry from AK,

Why couldn't you fly my plane back from Rome? Bumpy all the way. They made us stay in our seats for nine hours. I'm still trying to recover.


GravatarThese sports commentators tick me off. "Even if Boise St. wins every game they'd still never be worthy to oust Auburn from their rightful place amongst the top 10."

The Ducks could beat USC and still be #11.


Gravatar"Is anyone else occasionally surprised by how a throwaway comment will get attention,"


I am the ultimate case of the throwaway comment getting massive, nationwide attention.


GravatarI think the blame for popularizing the mispronunciation of "Detroit" should be laid on Chuck Berry. Didn't he say "DEE-troit" in "Back in the USA"?


GravatarHey, Barry! Good trip so far? Staying in Toledo overnight?


Gravatar"Only the payload will leave orbit."

What's the date on that IM?


GravatarFriend of mine saw "The Illusionist" and enjoyed it.


GravatarI read recently that regional dialects in the states have actually grown deeper.

What aboot the provinces, eh?
Little Brøther


The accents are so deep here, they sound like different languages. Oh, wait.

Actually, there are huge difference in accent. Newfie talk is practically a different language, and the difference between our maritime accent and that English they speak in Toronto is much wider then the difference between the southern US accents and New England accents, for example.

Don't know for sure about BC-- I'm going there for the first time in a few weeks-- but I wonder how the Asians have affected the language.


Gravatar
Why couldn't you fly my plane back from Rome? Bumpy all the way. They made us stay in our seats for nine hours. I'm still trying to recover.
res ipsa loquitur


Nine hours with the seatbelt sign on? Wow, that's hard on the knees.

But I suppose better than bouncing off the ceiling.

It seems to me, that a lot of pilots just forget about the seatbelt sign.


GravatarThis one tickles the shit outta me. A hell of a lot funnier'n Merkin or the ever-present dith.

You betchuh ass it is, yuh FRICKin' moonbat mistuh hookuh suh join!


GravatarOh hell, "Day-Twah" is to Detroit what "Tar-zhay" is to Target. It matters not.


GravatarWill-a-Met.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Vicki, you'd stick out like a sore thumb in Oregon (pronounced Ory GUN).

Puyallup is a place name that tests your nativeness to the Other Washington.


GravatarWill-a-Met.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

Will aah met


GravatarHey, Barry! Good trip so far? Staying in Toledo overnight?
Virginia


Naw, leave here at 6pm for Honolulu.

Just a short break between flights.


GravatarVicki, you'd stick out like a sore thumb in Oregon (pronounced Ory GUN).




I stick out like a sore thumb in Grand Rapids, my damned liberal self, so what's the dif?


GravatarSaskatchewan has no accent
just dialect


GravatarSorry if this was brought up below, but in following the link to the NewsWeak poll, the caption reads 'Americans are divided over whether Hastert should resign." No they're not - 50/50 is divided. 70-30 is a clear mandate that fat ass should get off the throne.


GravatarI don't know how to spell aah.
Sounds like happy.


GravatarFor all the years I've been posting here, I never *figured out* that Barry from AK was a pilot.

Well, now I know. Cool.


Gravatar
You betchuh ass it is, yuh FRICKin' moonbat mistuh hookuh suh join!
Pam @ Atlas Shrugs


XXX

Now shake them big tits for me, girl!!!


GravatarWill-a-Met

Will-a-Met, a-Will-a-Met, Will-a-Met, a-Will-a-Met... eeeeeeee, eeee-eeee-eeee-eee-mumm-mumm-a-way?


Gravatar
Well, now I know. Cool.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


That's why the end of my handle keeps changing, I try and reflect where I am.

It's a hobby.


GravatarOK, I really need to go wash the windows in the living room. Back in a bit.


GravatarBarry from AK,

Hard on the bum, too.

Got scolded for getting up and told FA, "If I don't get to that loo, both of us are going to be embarassed in a moment." It was like that for everyone.

Nothing crazy: just moderate near-constant bumpiness (or what they pilot called "chop") once we got off the coast of France all the way to about St. John.


GravatarLittle Brother, I am still kind of pissed off that no one wants to talk about hot and cold media and Marshall McLuhan or my theory on the denigration of sexual roles in modern society: what makes a man and what makes a woman.

But, we can talk all night to some pissant troll . . . .
DWD- Fortified with Resolve


Sorry we ain't up on your level, DWD.

Sometimes we just want to have fun.


GravatarThat's why the end of my handle keeps changing, I try and reflect where I am.

It's a hobby


Cool. If you ever get to Grand Rapids, give me a ring. I'll send you the details.


Gravatarwill - AM - ette (actually, it, of course, depends where you are talking about & the setting -- Valparaiso in Chile & Indiana & Florida are not pronounced the same)

FWIW, ARG has Leiberman at 47% & Lamont at 43% (MOE ±4%)


GravatarFor all the years I've been posting here, I never *figured out* that Barry from AK was a pilot.

Girl, where have you been? The man flies the big jumbo jets, too, not those little JFK-Junior numbers.


GravatarPrior -- Oh, I forgot all about Hollywoodland. Not playing at any of my fave theatres, but worth checking out. Thanks.
.


GravatarGirl, where have you been?

It must have escaped me.


GravatarOh, I knew someone would jump on that.

I'm talking about the mispronunciation of "Detroit" in the national media, which started after the influx of southerners up north, which filtered into country music, and spread from there.

Now can you quit the "you're not a real southerner" fingerpointing about a contraction? I promise from here on on to stand corrected on a word I won't ever use again.


GravatarWell, no wonder they just tore the place down!

Did they really? How could they? That was Kerouac and Ginsberg's hangout when they were Columbia students.

And by the way, I myself had a beer at the West End on my first trip to New York City, which was (interestingly enough) in September, 1994...


GravatarWhy couldn't you fly my plane back from Rome? Bumpy all the way. They made us stay in our seats for nine hours. I'm still trying to recover.
res ipsa loquitur


What airlines?


GravatarWil-AAM-et

I think. At least that's how it's said in Ducktown.


GravatarWhy couldn't you fly my plane back from Rome?

Oh, I left Rome / And landed in Brussels
On a plane ride so bumpy that I almost died.
There were clergymen in uniform / And young girls pullin' muscles
Everyone was there to greet me when I stepped inside...*

*I know certain parties who shall remain shunned have done Dylan lyrics to death here, but I reserve the right to lay an occasional lash on the dead horse.


Gravatarjust got back from the gym. Earlier I did a 25 miles bike ride. Time to strip down to the boxers.


Gravatarhas anyone seen _Mysterious Skin_ (from 2005)? it creeped me out!! then the foley things breaks. it's a VERY creepy movie.


GravatarRidnik,

The owners sold. The place will soon be called "Havana Central at the West End."

It's being gutted and renovated as I type.

Sorry.


GravatarOkay, I'm getting hung up on Canadian now. What's the difference between an imperial ton and a metric ton? And if I write "tonne," as they often do up here, which am I talking about?


GravatarNothing crazy: just moderate near-constant bumpiness (or what they pilot called "chop") once we got off the coast of France all the way to about St. John.
res ipsa loquitur


It was like that two weeks ago on my JFK-Gottenburg flight.

Must be that time of year.


GravatarTime to strip down to the boxers.


What are you? Muscle man? Where's the web cam?


GravatarWill-a-Met

My name William, gets pronounced one of three ways. At home in AR it's either Will-YUM or Wi-YUM. Other places it's Will-LEE-um.

My grandmother, who knew about such things, maintained that the Southern pronounciations were due to the Spanish influence where LL is pronounced "yuh".


GravatarWhy couldn't you fly my plane back from Rome? Bumpy all the way. They made us stay in our seats for nine hours. I'm still trying to recover.
res ipsa loquitur

What airlines?
Tena

Geez, on long flights you absolutely need to move to avoid deep vein thrombosis.


GravatarValparaiso in Chile & Indiana & Florida are not pronounced the same)

Versailles, Kentucky -- pronounced just like it's spelled.


GravatarLIME-ah, Ohia.

LEEM-ah, Peru.


Gravatarhas anyone seen _Mysterious Skin_ (from 2005)? it creeped me out!! then the foley things breaks. it's a VERY creepy movie.

I love that movie. It's heartbreaking.


GravatarThe end of the Korean conflict truce?

"Shots fired amid Korean tension

South Korean troops have fired warning shots at soldiers from the North amid rising tension over North Korean plans to test a nuclear weapon."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-...fic/ 5415304.stm


GravatarVicki, you'd stick out like a sore thumb in Oregon

More like two sore thumbs, I should say.

And I base that conclusion on the party's own testimony.


Gravatar- It is a well known fact that Democrats actually won a higher number of individual votes in the Presidential Elections of both 2000 and 2004. Right now, all Americans of conscience need to be proactive by setting up US National Vote Fraud Watch comittees with many local teams of US citizen observers and seasoned lawyers to scrutinize every single move by Republicans right up to Election Day. Since at least 2000, Republicans have stolen elections as they knew most Americans were already aware that Bush was a traitor, and was unable to win without resorting to blackbox manipulation, Vote buying, intimidation, & outright fraud -


GravatarOkay, I gotta go meet a bunch of Liberal Elitist Atriot Pony-Loving Beeyotches.

My best to you all (except the trolls, who can fuck off and die).


GravatarWhat's the difference between an imperial ton and a metric ton?

about 220 pds


GravatarCAWL-ass, Maine. Ca-LAY, France.


GravatarOkay, I'm getting hung up on Canadian now. What's the difference between an imperial ton and a metric ton? And if I write "tonne," as they often do up here, which am I talking about?
Moe Szyslak

I think an imperial tonne is one Hastert....or maybe that's imperialistic tonne...


GravatarWhat are you? Muscle man? Where's the web cam?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore



gonna shower down and grill now
might use some Heinz maf54 sauce


GravatarWe had a lot of turbulence on the way to DC last weekend. It was so bad that my stomach actually got a bit queasy, and that never happens to me. I was reading though, and I can't do that when I'm in a car.

I can't imagine nine hours of it. Yuk. And the leg circulation problems are very real.


GravatarGeez, on long flights you absolutely need to move to avoid deep vein thrombosis.
ellroon


That's one reason I want to know which airlines.

I actually liked the airbuses I flew to Italy and back on on Lufthansa. I liked Lufthansa, period. Terrible food and movies, but otherwise, a good airline, I thought. The airbus coming home had a bank of heads in an area between the two coach sections. It was big enough to stand around in and you were out of the aisles.


GravatarAnd I base that conclusion on the party's own testimony.
Little Brøther




res -- tell everyone I whined hello, OK?


GravatarOK, that number was from Noozweek's own polling - I have seen worse numbers for Hastert.


Gravatarellroon: That is indeed great work by Waxman to pin the tail directly on the corrupt fascist beast.


GravatarOkay, I gotta go meet a bunch of Liberal Elitist Atriot Pony-Loving Beeyotches.

Lucky! Say hello from all the computer-bound Atriots.


GravatarSouth Korean troops have fired warning shots at soldiers from the North amid rising tension over North Korean plans to test a nuclear weapon."



witnesses report seeing a mushroom cloud drilled through with perfectly placed shots...


GravatarGotta run, as Duncan says, Travel Day.

See ya all from Honolulu (and odd as it is, I'd rather be in NYC.)

later bats.


GravatarI love that movie. It's heartbreaking.
masculine_monica_nyc

yes, very heartbreaking. if you weren't sexually abused as a child, you should watch the film: mysterious skin.


GravatarGeez, on long flights you absolutely need to move to avoid deep vein thrombosis.
ellroon

maf54: deep vein thrombosis? sounds yummy..........


GravatarVicki would fit just fine in Oregon.


GravatarIt was so bad that my stomach actually got a bit queasy, and that never happens to me

We had a flight back from France once that was bumpy like that, for hours. I never get motion sickness, but by the time the air smoothed out I was getting a leeeetle nauseous.

(Did I mention that I hate to fly and that one little bump will make me whimper?)


GravatarDon't forget to visit me in Gitmo.


Gravatarellroon: That is indeed great work by Waxman to pin the tail directly on the corrupt fascist beast.
Apprentice to Darth Holden

Waxman is my hero. He's relentless and dogged and will NOT take no for an answer. God! We need more of his ilk!


GravatarWashington Post afghan reporter in response to the rumdum oped

shorter response
overly optimistic very overly optimistic....hughly optimistic
and er ummm some of his facts are wrong too


Gravatarlater bats.
Barry from AK in Toledo | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 3:54 pm | #

Have a great trip. And, glad to know you don't blog from work!!


Gravatargonna shower down and grill now
might use some Heinz maf54 sauce


Got a ruler?

Love details...


GravatarDon't know for sure about BC-- I'm going there for the first time in a few weeks-- but I wonder how the Asians have affected the language.
Moe Szyslak


What, the Hong Kong Chinese? Or the folks who stuck around after building the CPR?

The only weirdy I ran across that I can remember was "la cienega". In LA? La See-en-ega. In Albuquerque? La See-a-nayga. For some reason it brought home the diversification in Spanish norms.


GravatarSouth Korean troops have fired warning shots at soldiers from the North amid rising tension over North Korean plans to test a nuclear weapon.

This is not good.

The standing joke when I was stationed in the ROK in '87 was that the 2nd ID was there to keep the NKs and the ROKs from fighting each other.


GravatarFrom what depths of hell did these mean, evil, greedy, self-absorbed, perveted, cowardly, pathological lying rethug. demons spawn?


GravatarI can't imagine nine hours of it. Yuk. And the leg circulation problems are very real.
pie


When I went to Italy, there were two groups of us on this tour. One group was mainly from Houston. That group had a couple who had brought their 80 some odd year old mom along and the first day we were there, she had to go to the hospital. They thought it was thrombosis.

I'll be damned if they didn't release her about a day later and they picked up the tour again. She passed out in the road stop on the way back from Pompeii. If that had been my mother, she would have gone back to the U.S. as soon as she was out of the hospital the first time, cause I'd have taken her myself if she refused on her own.

I couldn't believe it -


(pie - I owe you an email. I started to answer you last night, but it was late. Sorry I haven't yet - I will.)


GravatarAnd, glad to know you don't blog from work!!

I thought that was what auto-pilot was for.


Gravatartonne is metric ton = 100- kilograms = 2204.62#

imperial (or long) ton = 2240#

displacement ton = 35 cubic feet of sea water

shipping ton (refers to cargo) = 40 cubic feet

register ton (refers to internal capacity of ships) = 100 cubic feet


GravatarIt's okay, Tena. I know how it goes.


GravatarVicki would fit just fine in Oregon.

Vicki would do just fine in Portland proper or Eugene, once she got her pronunciation of Willamette down right.

Around Gresham, places in Washington county, and the cesspit that is Josephine county, she'd definitely be a misfit.


GravatarBTW --
I listened to a conversation between a couple of Newfies & I literally cound not understand a single word (except, "eh")


GravatarFrom what depths of hell did these mean, evil, greedy, self-absorbed, perveted, cowardly, pathological lying rethug. demons spawn?

The twisted mind of Grover Norquist.


GravatarWhat, the Hong Kong Chinese? Or the folks who stuck around after building the CPR?

Both, I guess. There was a recent show on CBC about dating in Vancouver-- most people (I think it was something like 80 %) under 30 had at sometime in their life dated someone of a different race. All sorts of things result because of that, no doubt, but I'm wondering how it affects language.


GravatarMoe - the very best conversion site.


GravatarThanks Prior Aelred, and Dr. B! Now to figure out if CP uses ton or tonne.


GravatarRobin Williams had a great, new phrase on Maher last night: Caucus Suckers!


GravatarA sad day for record lovers.


Gravatarpie - well, love you - which is mostly what I was going to say. And I will answer.

I've been going back and forth with a 19 year old who is being a WATB about her parents' refusal to let her go off to NYC on her own and go to school.

She hasn't even applied, for all love.

I've been slightly distracted.

And tonight Mr. Tena is giving me a birthday party. I'm still stunned by this - it's a first.


GravatarNow to figure out if CP uses ton or tonne.
Moe Szyslak |


shit
I don't have my CP style guide here!


GravatarTena, just curious-- do you mean you would've taken the ailing old woman home on GP, i.e. because she was obviously unfit, if not incapacitated, for the kind of hyperactive touring you've described elsewhere?

I'm only wondering, because I've heard stories (from real people, not "some people say") of travellers developing unexpected health problems in Europe, and somehow receiving excellent and seemingly hassle-free care. I don't know about Italy; I vaguely recall France, Portugal, possibly Germany.

It's insane to expect an infirm person to enjoy an active "vacation", for sure. Unless they're prepared to say, "She died doing something she loved..."


GravatarAnd tonight Mr. Tena is giving me a birthday party. I'm still stunned by this - it's a first.


Wow!

That's cool. So cool!


GravatarFrom O'Donnell at Huffpo:

The Odd Couple


Many chiefs of staff are close, very close, to their bosses on Capitol Hill. But none are closer than Scott Palmer is to Denny Hastert. They don't just work together all day, they live together.

There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual.


Shades of Hoover and Tolson?


GravatarHippo birdie two ewes, Tena.


GravatarHmmm. Four p.m. Is it too early for a glass of embarassingly inexpensive sauv blanc? Nevermind. I've already answered that question. Cheers.


GravatarFrom the interview with Chris Wallace in the Times magazine:

Q. But why go to Fox News, of all channels, which has been criticized for having a conservative bias?

A.I thought it got a bad rap from the national media and the chattering classes. It did a fair, aggressive and extremely watchable job of presenting the news during the day. People confuse the basic mission of Fox News for the political-opinion shows they have at night, which clearly are conservative.


GravatarMILAN (Reuters) - Italian prosecutors have wrapped up an investigation into the 2003 suspected CIA kidnapping of a terrorism suspect in Milan, which could lead to criminal charges being brought against 38 people, most of them CIA agents.

Judicial sources said on Saturday that 26 CIA agents and the head of Italy's Sismi military intelligence agency, Nicolo Pollari, were among the 38 suspects notified at the end of the probe, meaning prosecutors can now ask a judge to order them to stand trial.

The magistrates say a CIA-led team seized Muslim cleric Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, in Milan in 2003 and flew him to his native Egypt. Nasr says he was tortured there while being questioned.
http://today.reuters.com/news/ar..._C2_worldNews- 1

SOP in the New Amerika.
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GravatarAnd tonight Mr. Tena is giving me a birthday party. I'm still stunned by this - it's a first.

Whoa!! That's fabulous!

Glad to hear it.


GravatarTwo somewhat good events in my life from the previous week. I may be getting a job, in a QA lab in Tucson. Pretty decent pay, that isn't defense work.

Also, me and my son poured a foundation for a large shed, and so far, after about 4 tons of concrete (before adding water) mixed by hand, poured and screeded, I show no ill signs from the hard work. Must have made a total recovery from last winter, where I was wondering if I was going to be still around at this time.


GravatarMy red dress | 10.07.06 - 4:07 pm

Look, I don't think we should be any part of perpetuating innuendo about Hastert.

I don't want the taint in liberal blogistan.


GravatarKerry was also on Real Time and he talked about putting a boot in GOP ass! Better than average episode indeed.


GravatarForgot the link, in case you care:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/0.../ 08wwln_q4.html


GravatarIt did a fair, aggressive and extremely watchable job of presenting the news during the day.

The news? And what about the accuracy of your news, Chris?


GravatarDoug!

That's great news! I, for one, am enriched by you being here.

Congratulations all around.


GravatarAll sorts of things result because of that, no doubt, but I'm wondering how it affects language.
Moe Szyslak


Okay, one more Bunny-Bunny and cross-cultural misunderstanding story and then I'm gonna go paint.

In Calgary, when Bunny-Bunny, I and my sister were little, there were lots of Ukrainians, Doukhoubours, Scandanavians, English, Scots, Irish, Germans, Blackfeet, Cree, Chinese and Texans, but what there weren't any of were black people. So, the first trip we took down to Tulsa, to visit with Mummy's Mummy and Daddy, there was the young and darling Bunny-Bunny, looking around as they went around town, finally asking why there were so many Chinese around.... It was the only not-us group that he absolutely knew.


GravatarThere are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual.

Shades of Hoover and Tolson?
My red dress

I thought I'd read Dreier and his chief of staff live together...but then again, they are lovers.


Gravatarevening moonbats


GravatarCome on, Tena, be nice: I have been on my best non-elitist behavior of late.

But I do mean the sexual differentiation thing. Honestly, people are so confused about what is the proper role that it is causing all sorts of problems and giving the haters a wedge to drive between us.

But that is neither here nor there. As the old saying goes, I could get my own blog and talk about whatever I want to.


Alone.


So alone.


GravatarThat group had a couple who had brought their 80 some odd year old mom along and the first day we were there, she had to go to the hospital.

One of my mother's aquaintances made her 80-something year old mother go on a Caribbean cruise with her about a year ago. The mother died on the flight back from the cruise.


GravatarAlone.


So alone.
DWD- Fortified with Resolve


GravatarMoe, metric tonne = 1000 kg

imperial ton = 2000 lbs

and I lived in Vancouver for 5 years and didn't find that the Chinese changed the language that much except everyone in Vancouver knows how to say Happy New Year in Cantonese for Chinese New Year!


GravatarThere are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual.

Shades of Hoover and Tolson?
My red dress


I think there's a 2nd aide who's part of the mix as well


GravatarDWD,
suffice to say I said I'd visit you, and I had a silly comment...


GravatarYears ago, on my first visit to Italy, I developed water on the knee. I went to an Italian medical clinic, where the doctor pointed out that the knee was sunburned. It was also, unlike the other similarly sunburned knee, about twice normal size. My joke ever since has been that in Italy, while the doctor beats the drum, the nurse shakes the rattle.

Ultimately, I had to cancel plans to go to Greece where the medical care was rumored to be similar in order to go to Switzerland for medical attention.

It's all anecdotal; I'm sure there are lots of very good doctors in Italy, perhaps they just aren't easy for broke college backpackers to find.


GravatarBetter than average episode indeed.
Cartman | 10.07.06 - 4:09 pm | #


It would have been tonnes better if Robin Williams had not been on. He is incapable of allowing anyone else to speak. I kept yelling "shut up" at the tv for the entire hour.

I was hoping his stint in rehab would calm him down a bit, but alas, no.


GravatarLook, I don't think we should be any part of perpetuating innuendo about Hastert.

Agreed. I just read something about Hastert from WMR in a comment at TPM, and I didn't think it was a good idea to repeat rumors from over 20 years ago when they were precisely that - rumors.

This isn't about being gay anyway. Geez.


GravatarAnd a short ton is indeed 2,000 POUNDS....

Are you getting the hint cher? That since Canada is putatively on the metric system, and since the metric tonne is spellt tonne, that might be the one in use?


GravatarBut that is neither here nor there. As the old saying goes, I could get my own blog and talk about whatever I want to.


Alone.


So alone.
DWD- Fortified with Resolve


hey DWD

don't take this the wrong way at all cause it's meant in the best of intentions:
I've stumbled across a few blogs where actual 'issues' are discussed in an intelligent objective non-'personal' manner- that might be what you are hoping for...

on the other hand- maybe not!


GravatarBack to the living room.


GravatarHee, my BIL is a somewhat successful musician in Vancouver, putting out a CD next month. We're going for the party. But he's from Toronto, so that doesn't help at all.


GravatarI'm torn about the Hastert rumor. On the one hand, I don't think we're trying to be like them. On the other hand, "Dems had evil perverted kids set up poor Foley" -- fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.


GravatarRe-HICA!
.


GravatarRe-HICA!
.


GravatarThis isn't about being gay anyway. Geez.
pie


This is about a bunch of openly gay people and possibly more than a few closeted gay people using sexual orientation as a club and political wedge. It's about hypocrisy. Even average Americans who aren't that gay friendly "get it".


GravatarForgot the link, in case you care:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/0.../ 08wwln_q4.html
david mizner


What a prick the younger Mr. Wallace is.

Good for the Clenis in slapping him down.


GravatarVicki, I did the blog thing for years - before they were called blogs.

At one point we were getting 5K hits a day 139K a month (and mostly from newspapers and stuff) but never found a way to make it pay and the constant updating got old. Really old.

I used to be one half of the Doom Brothers, News with a Difference. I doubt you would remember me, but some do. The Doom Brothers did parody news (like the Onion and the Frumious Bandersnatch - who had us on their link page. I guess that was blogrolling before there was such a thing. We were awarded LA Time's Site of the Day and a Best of Web top 1000 comedy sites)

After doing it for years I vowed not to bother. But it was kind of fun while it lasted.


Gravatarshit
I don't have my CP style guide here!
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot



maybe it's 'bookmarked' under 'pierre burton'


Gravatarwhy do so many dislike dims?


Gravatar
It would have been tonnes better if Robin Williams had not been on. He is incapable of allowing anyone else to speak. I kept yelling "shut up" at the tv for the entire hour.


I think 'they' know that before they ask Williams to be on. That's his deal.


GravatarSEN. DeWINE: Tim, I was shocked by that as well. But you know, on reflection, this is their country. There’s a lot of things going wrong. You blame someone who is there. Still does not change that we’re not in Iraq primarily for the Iraqis. We’re in Iraq for us. We’re—have to do what we have to do, and it goes back to what the three generals—three military leaders said. It would be a total disaster for us to leave. It is in our self-interest, the interest to protect American families, that we are in Iraq. That’s why we’re there.

http://amygdalagf.blogspot.com


GravatarDr. B, the problem is I'm quoting Maude Barlow, who uses "ton," but she's writing to a North American audience, inclusive of both the US and Canada, so I don't know what the hell she's talking about.


Gravatarhttp://americablog.blogspot.com/...s-just- gop.html

americablog reports that mr. steele ran an add defaming the support of drug companies for dems, though he just ran a drug comp fundraiser.


GravatarEarl, I enjoy this site and the people here. (Including you and Doug and the rest - my favorite Atriots)


Gravatarpie - I don't think it's about "teh gay" but it might very well be about "covering up teh gay". As someone said way upthread, Hastert's actions don't make a lot of sense when viewed with just the facts we already know. The real danger I see here is that the Republicans will try to make it about teh gay rather than what it is actually about - teh corruption, teh incompetence, and teh lust for unfettered power.


GravatarI tripped over a railway line while in Switzerland and was in a caste for 6 weeks.


GravatarWell, Tena, you won't believe this-- but I was the one who thought up the idea for your party and talked Mr. Tena into it. I even put up some of the dough.

The thing is, we agreed between us to keep this in the vault. So no matter how hard you pump him, he'll swear up and down that he never heard of any jackass named Little Brøther, nobody has to tell him that giving a party for his adorable wife is quite a sweet and romantic gesture, etc.

I don't think you need to put the both of you through that.

And the only reason I'm telling you about this now is because I sense a certain latent uneasiness in your attitude about the party. And I worry that you may not enjoy it as much as you should because of this nagging concern about how the hell this came about, anyway?

So now you know. No-- don't thank me. You'll embarrass both of us. This is a private thing we'll just keep between ourselves and the one or two Atriots loitering about.

Party Hearty! ♥


GravatarTena - You were asking about airlines. I imagine Dallas has much the same gateways to Europe as Houston.

The best flight I have found by far is the afternoon KLM flight. You leave at four in the afternoon which puts you into Amsterdam at about seven AM. Best part, it's mainly a sleeper flight, so you arrive rested and no jet lag.

I would pay the extra and get into the bubble (second floor so to speak). It's business class, and mostly business people that have a morning meeting in Europe. Right from takeoff, they dim the lights, get out the blankets, and no kids (at least use to). Not sure if Lufthansa has the same airplanes. Anyway, flying in the bubble was head and shoulders better than anything I've ever flown.


Gravatarwhy do so many dislike dims?
dith


www.pollingreport.com

Get an education. You got it backwards.


GravatarMoonbootica, what caste were you? In India? Switzerland? Oh hell, I am so confused.


Gravatarwhy do so many dislike dims?
dith


why do so many like us, assface?


GravatarI tripped over a railway line while in Switzerland and was in a caste for 6 weeks.
Moonbootica


I didn't know they had untouchables in Switzerland.


GravatarI tripped over a railway line while in Switzerland and was in a caste for 6 weeks.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom


was that temporary caste in Switzerland, Gujarat possibly?


GravatarSo, the Tigers gonna win this PM? Dunno.

My nephew is visiting and he said, "Cheering for the Yankees is like hoping Brad Pitt gets the girl at the movies."

I kind of liked that.


GravatarThe new Forbes 400 list of richest Americans is billionaires only. If you're net worth is a mere $999 million, forget it. A billion means a thousand million, and that's the Forbes 400 minimum -- up from $900 million in 2005. Donald Trump and two of his kids grace the Forbes 400 cover, but ranked No.94 with $2.9 billion, Trump's a long way from No.1 Bill Gates with $53 billion. The combined wealth of the 400 richest Americans is a record-breaking $1.25 trillion. That's about the same amount of combined wealth held by the 57 million households who make up half the U.S. population. The economy is booming for billionaires. It's a bust for many other Americans. A record 400 Americans are billionaires, and a record 47 million Americans have no health insurance. America has 400 billionaires, and 37 million people below the official poverty line. The official poverty line for one person was just $9,973 in 2005 (latest data). That wouldn't cover the custom-made men's shoes ($4,12 and Hermes purse ($6,250) on the Forbes Cost of Living Extremely Well Index. The official poverty line of $15,577 for a three-person family is lower than the cost of the Patek Philippe men's gold watch ($17,600). The Forbes 400 minimum is up $100 million since 2005, but the federal minimum wage has been stuck at $5.15 an hour -- just $10,712 a year -- since 1997. GOP leaders in Congress have been holding a raise for minimum wage workers hostage to more giant tax cuts for wealthy inheritors. Wealth isn't trickling down. It's flooding up -- from workers to bosses, small investors to big, poorer to richer. The heirs to Wal-Mart founders Sam and Bud Walton have a combined $82.5 billion -- while the children of Wal-Mart workers swell the ranks of state health insurance programs which pay only for the neediest. In today's corporate America, workers see gutted paychecks and pensions despite rising worker productivity, while CEOs get golden pay, perks, pensions and parachutes. The pay gap between average workers and CEOs has grown nine times wider since the 1970s. The number of billionaires is a record high, but the share of national income going to wages and salaries is at a record low. U.S. corporate profits increased 21 percent in the past year, Market Watch reported in March. "Profits have been so high because almost all of the benefits from productivity improvements are flowing to the owners of capital rather than to the workers," said Market Watch. The wealthiest 1 percent of Americans (minimum net worth $6 million) owned 62 percent of the nation's business assets, 51 percent of stocks and 70 percent of bonds as of 2004, according to the latest data from the Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finances -- which excludes the Forbes 400. That's way up from 1989, when the wealthiest 1 percent owned 54 percent of business assets, 41 percent of stocks and 52 percent of bonds. Our growing economy is not producing a growing middle class, but a richer aristocracy.


GravatarThis is about a bunch of openly gay people and possibly more than a few closeted gay people using sexual orientation as a club and political wedge.

Well, this is about an adult using his position to irresponsibly and wrongly approach younger people for sex. And I agree that the repubs are the height of hypocrisy when it comes to gay issues, but I don't see how it helps anything to bring unsubstantiated rumors into an already hot-button issue. You'd think this would help some people wake up about and get a clue about the whole gay-straight orientation, but noooooooooo.

Whatever. People are going to do what they want anyway.

See you later, gaters.


Gravatarooops

sorry mispelling

you know what i mean.

sorry had a bit to drink.


GravatarLet's go, you Motor City kitties!


GravatarI'm torn about the Hastert rumor
Virginia


You are? Wolcott's not.


Gravatargawd i'm so embarassed lol


GravatarLet's go, you Motor City kitties!
Jay C.


Shorter Jay C.: Fuck the Fucking Yankees!


Gravatarsorry had a bit to drink.
Moonbootica


Never be sorry for that.


GravatarWhy do I, dith and the GOP hate 67% of America?


Gravatar
Shorter Jay C.: Fuck the Fucking Yankees!


Fuck those fucking fucks!


Gravatardith must be running some sort of 'paisley poetry product placement service' for republicans.

PPPP Mission Statement:

be poetic and artistic beyond the influence of 'leftist' politics- striking a delicate balance between the 'aesthetic' and the 'anti progressive legislation' movements.


whatever it is, it's WEIRDLY HOSTILE


GravatarThe real danger I see here is that the Republicans will try to make it about teh gay rather than what it is actually about - teh corruption, teh incompetence, and teh lust for unfettered power.

Yeah, see my comment above. And they already tried to make it about teh gay. That's why we're much better off making it about the other issues, because that's what it is about.


Gravatarhow can it be weirdly hostile, it aint, it just is...


GravatarSo now you know. No-- don't thank me. You'll embarrass both of us. This is a private thing we'll just keep between ourselves and the one or two Atriots loitering about.

Party Hearty! ? ?
Little Brøther


You're too much.


GravatarAnyone want to take my place at various wedding festivities, please do. There's too much baseball to watch.


GravatarJay C.,

You read Gilliard, right? That's his line.


GravatarIF this turns into a big "gay congressmen" scandal for the Repugs, the way I see it is that that just hurts them with their religious base.

I think everyone else gets what is going on. I haven't seen or heard anything outside of Fox News that tells me otherwise.


GravatarEarl, I enjoy this site and the people here. (Including you and Doug and the rest - my favorite Atriots)
DWD- Fortified with Resolve


MR DWD:
AND YOU ARE ENJOYED too
i just thought maybe you
would want to sometimes find a different balance

key word: sometimes


GravatarVarious Democrats are accusing Republicans of covering up Congressman Mark Foley’s boy problem, a charge for which there is no evidence. One wonders, though, whether that is exactly what the Democratic Party did.

_Powerline

via S!N!


Gravatarer -- no --
an imperial ton is not 2000#
2000# is a short ton
an imperial ton is a long ton (2240#)

TENA! -- Happy Birthday Party!

Tea time -- might see you later bats


GravatarThe high point for median household income -- the income of the household in the middle -- was $47,671 in 1999, adjusted for inflation. In 2005, median household income was $1,345 less at $46,326. In the same period, the Forbes 400 gained more than 100 billionaires. Government policies are fueling rising inequality. Taxpayers with incomes above $1 million will see their after-tax income grow by about 6 percent this year thanks to tax cuts the nation can't afford. In an economy where money is flowing up to the very top, even college-educated workers are going backward. Inflation-adjusted median household income was lower in 2005 than 1999 even when the householder had a bachelor's degree, master's degree, professional degree or doctorate. The problem is much bigger than the rich getting richer, while the poor get poorer. The really rich are getting richer at the expense of most everyone else. Solutions include providing guaranteed wage and health insurance immediately for injured workers, restoring the link between rising worker productivity and pay, raising the miserly minimum wage, narrowing the obscene pay gap between workers and CEOs, rolling back tax cuts for the wealthy, and stop taxing income from work more than income from capital gains.


GravatarHow's the not-Eschacon festivities setting up, Res?


GravatarChrist, would someone remind me to skip the glass cocktail tables in my next life?

The glass dining table I love, but the cocktail tables (a wedding gift from my parents like 20 years ago) are hideous to clean, and they really don't suite my style.


Gravatarpeace and humptiness forever


Gravatarhow can it be weirdly hostile, it aint, it just is...
dith



dith- i like you, and im by no means a democrat, a clintonian democrat especially NOT- okay, maybe a george mcgovern democrat------------

but i see a huge difference between 'them' and the other 'them'

kind of like the difference between being run over on the street by a datsun or an 18 wheeler


GravatarDWD - no one is chasing you off.

I was just jumping into another conversation I shouldn't have. And all I was saying, in a friendly way, was "lighten up, Francis."

But you weren't talking to me and I shouldn't have commented.

No biggie.


Gravatarima moving to Livingston Montana dims...
dith


Enjoy having a Democratic governor, numbnuts. I wish we had one here in California.


Gravatar...and Minnie Moore, Tena! Celebrate!


GravatarI like DWD a lot.

And now I must go. Later, all.


GravatarYou'd think this would help some people wake up about and get a clue about the whole gay-straight orientation, but noooooooooo.

Whatever. People are going to do what they want anyway.

See you later, gaters.
pie


No. It's about the cover-up. The cover up is about the hypocrisy.

Sheesh!


Gravatarearl, you're teasing Moonbootica about "caste" but it should be Pierre "Berton" not "Burton" you would be talking about.

Greatest skit on Canadian tv ever, was the skit on Rick Mercer Report on CBC showing Pierre Berton, one of the best and most prolifit Canadian authours, at about 80 years of age, teaching a young Canadian how to roll a joint (he was using medicinal marijuana). Side splitting and something you'd never see on American television.

google it and you might just find it.


GravatarVarious Democrats are accusing Republicans of covering up Congressman Mark Foley’s boy problem, a charge for which there is no evidence. One wonders, though, whether that is exactly what the Democratic Party did.

_Powerline


nancy pelosi was in charge of the padded manila envelope keeping marc foleys 'peepee' covered up.

she removed it when she wanted to embarass the republicans.

who is covering up dennis hastart's 'peepee?'


GravatarJay C.,

A good time was had by all last night. Everyone is in love with Athenae, which, if you ever meet her, will make complete sense (then again, all you have to do is read her to understand that). Snow got delayed, but he is showing up tonight. Got to meet Ridnik Chrome, and hisstoryman, and Bunter, who is beautiful and sweet, and we had a few longtime lurkers, too. I think we will have about twenty tonight and people seem to be looking forward to tomorrow's picnic, too.


GravatarSecret trial for David Keogh and Leo O'Connor over the Al Jazeera memo leak


GravatarThank you all, now to watch some baseball and football between innings.

Damn! Too much sport on tv this day.


later, 'bats.


Gravatarearl, you're teasing Moonbootica about "caste" but it should be Pierre "Berton" not "Burton" you would be talking about.


jeez i must have been thinking of burton cummings???????


i've seen rick mercer shopping at the big carrot in toronto. short guy.

that would be a funny skit for sure?

btw: years ago i made the acquaintance of pierre b's daughter who was married to bruno gerussi's son.


Gravatarres,

lovingly stroke Simels' beret for me tonight, would you? Thank you.


GravatarThe best flight I have found by far is the afternoon KLM flight. You leave at four in the afternoon which puts you into Amsterdam at about seven AM. Best part, it's mainly a sleeper flight, so you arrive rested and no jet lag.

I've heard that's another good airline.

We left on Lufthansa at 3:30 - same thing. Night flight. I prefer them, too, even though I never sleep. We came in through Frankfort. I wouldn't mind coming in through Amsterdam, except I'd want to stay awhile.

We flew business class to Ireland - it was awesome. It was also $4000 more expensive per person. If his hadn't been paid and mine hadn't been a free upgrade, we wouldn't have done that.


GravatarSounds like a blast, Res.

Viva the shrillness!


GravatarTea bell ringin, but drive by link from Smirking Chimp:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/1455


GravatarThat's why we're much better off making it about the other issues, because that's what it is about.
pie


What appeals to me about it, I guess, is the hypocrisy angle. I am sick unto death of being lectured by the scumbags that I'm immoral because I believe people have a right to be who they are and pursue happiness, including any minority -- ethnic, sexual, or otherwise.

If they go down (sorry!) because they're gay, that's their own petard they're being hoist on. If they hadn't been complete assholes about other people's lives it wouldn't be an issue to me whatsoever.


GravatarSmirking Chimp is definitely worth the linkage.


GravatarBesides, I am still a writer and when I try to guage people's opinions and thoughts (usually of smarter people) it is often just a prelude to a book.


Gravatarvicki,

No simels ce soir, unfortunately. But he was there with bells on last night (and will be tomorrow). I'll give Snow a peck on the cheek for you, though.

And now I'm really going.


GravatarThe glass dining table I love, but the cocktail tables (a wedding gift from my parents like 20 years ago) are hideous to clean, and they really don't suite my style.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |



could you hire the local 'youth' to use spray paint grafitti to 'inform' the tables?????????????????????


GravatarBesides, I am still a writer and when I try to guage people's opinions and thoughts (usually of smarter people) it is often just a prelude to a book.
DWD- Fortified with Resolve





user! user! user!


Gravatar Mummies of 'cloud warriors' tribe found in Peruvian cave

Archaeologists in Peru have discovered an underground burial vault that could unlock the mystery of a pre-Colombian tribe known as the "warriors of the clouds".

The Chachapoyas commanded a vast kingdom stretching across the Andes to the fringe of Peru's northern Amazon jungle until they were conquered by the Incas in the 15th century.

The Incan empire was itself overrun soon after by the Spanish, and details of the Chachapoyas and their way of life were lost or destroyed in the widespread pillaging that followed.

Now a team of archaeologists, working on a tip-off from a local farmer, have uncovered a burial site in a 820ft-deep cave. The researchers have so far found five mummies, two of which are intact with skin and hair, as well as ceramics, textiles and wall paintings, the expedition's leader, Herman Corbera, told Reuters.


GravatarThere are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual.

Shades of Hoover and Tolson?
My red dress

I thought I'd read Dreier and his chief of staff live together...but then again, they are lovers.
ellroon


Of course it's not about teh gay. It's about the poor pig. As Mark Shields says, "Bestiality is never consensual."

-


Gravatarcould you hire the local 'youth' to use spray paint grafitti to 'inform' the tables?????????????????????


Nah, I'll keep on them with Ammonia and Vinegar or Windex or whatever.

If I get this new job, I may just have to buy some new furniture.


GravatarI wouldn't mind coming in through Amsterdam, except I'd want to stay awhile.

I really like KLM, and it might be because I have a thing for staying a while in A'dam.


GravatarI'll bet you were quite the young stud 20 years ago, Atrios, before you got fat and decided you liked girls.


Gravatarnew furniture! always exciting!


GravatarThe researchers have so far found five mummies, two of which are intact with skin and hair

Yes, but is there any evidence of sexual predation, homo or otherwise, among the mummies? I would think that that would be the first thing they'd check!


GravatarI'm not exactly Ms. International Traveller. The furthest I've been is Quebec for a business meeting, and Encenada to ride burros and eat lobster.


GravatarSecond minister enters veils row

Communities and Local Government Minister Phil Woolas has become the second minister to join the debate over Muslim women who veil their faces.

Wearing veils could provoke "fear and resentment" and play into the hands of far-right activists, he warned.

In an article for the Sunday Mirror, he urged Muslims to be aware of the views of non-Muslims.

His words follow Jack Straw's call for Muslim women to take off veils at his Blackburn constituency surgery.


Gravatarearl, try this link for Rick Mercer and the video of Pierre Berton showing us how to roll a joint is in October - no link for it directly.

click on homepage.


GravatarI agree with Virginia, and I also repeat - if this becomes a big "gay congressmen hiding it" scandal, I don't think that bounces back on gays and lesbians. It just hurts the Repugs that much more with their religious base.

I don't think other people have Teh Gay on the brain like the religious right.


GravatarI wouldn't mind coming in through Amsterdam, except I'd want to stay awhile.

I really like KLM, and it might be because I have a thing for staying a while in A'dam.
Virginia



this guy i know paid for a prostitute in a 'window' in amsterdam and complained to me that she didn't seem to 'care' at all.............i.e. feel 'connected' to him in any way---


GravatarYes, but is there any evidence of sexual predation, homo or otherwise, among the mummies? I would think that that would be the first thing they'd check!
Little Brøther


"Dateline" recently infiltrated a mummy sex ring. The mummies would show up at the "child"'s house with a sarcophagus full of wine coolers and videos.


GravatarIs Atrios proud to be associated with vile, destestable, vile fascist pig?

Gay thug, Mike Rogers, to out Republican Staffers on Monday

“Starting Monday… Investigate these closeted staffers

I am very concerned what these CLOSETED high level staffers have done. This site first reported on the danger Kirk Fordham was to gays OVER TWO YEARS AGO. Before anyone gets out the violins for poor Kirk, remember he was the money chief for US Senator Mel Martinez’s campaign. You know Mel, he’s the one who equaled marriage equality with living under “totalitarian rule in Cuba.”

It’s not that Kirk is gay that got him in trouble. It’s that he was hiding in a closet and facilitating Mark Foley’s actions.

Well, America, I want other closeted staffers questioned. I want all entities investigating this matter to look at every other closeted staffer who may have contributed to this national disgrace.

So…. Beginning Monday, and every weekday thereafter, I will be identifying the name of a closeted senior staffer in Congress with the hopes that those investigating this matter will make sure to include them in their questioning. And I hope the press looks for them as well. It’s time to rid the government of those that would harm us.

I will also highlight a past case from the site’s history. I will ask you all to join me in sending emails to the ethics committee and media about these staffers who are putting the very stability of our government.

Some have said this is a purge of gays from the government. No my friends, this is NOT about gays. To suggest that there will be a purge of gays from the government is preposterous. Now, if you want to talk about a purge of anti-gay closet cases facilitating the hard Right’s agenda… I say purge away.

It’s about the hypocrisy. The know it. We know it. They want to change the focus. “


Gravatarearl, try this link for Rick Mercer and the video of Pierre Berton showing us how to roll a joint is in October - no link for it directly.

click on homepage.
mimi


okay mimi thanks. i wish rick mercer had never left 'this hour has 22 minutes'

that was his best imho


Gravatar..i.e. feel 'connected' to him in any way---
earl 'cliche' guevera


They were connected by a few dollars/guilders!


GravatarWhat a surprise!


http://www.comcast.net/news/inde.../07/ 493931.html


GravatarThe vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual (95%+, iirc), and over 90% of them know their victims.


GravatarIn memoriam...

I worked at Tower Records in the SF Bay Area back in the late 70s-early 80s. In those days, the place virtually had a license to print money. Friday nights and weekends the place was packed. From Thanksgiving to Christmas, there were literally crowds at the door waiting for the place to open at 9 am. The last week before Christmas, lines would stretch entirely around the interior of the store to get to the cash registers, and were like that from opening until closing (at midnight!). I remember one day during the Christmas rush when our store broke $100,000 in sales for the day - a considerable amount at the time.

The "backstage" stories at Tower could fill several books, and I don't know why they haven't (yet!)... and I'm not even talking about the story of the front office. The first night I worked there, I walked into the manager's office after my register shift to encounter a tiny little room packed with about 20 people and my manager preparing some freebase cocaine. I remember one guy who always had a baggie full of quaaludes for sale, another guy with a burlap bag full of thai sticks for sale in his van, and a wide variety of pot and hash to choose from. One time, the store manager's assistant was bragging that a certain then-hot rock star was going to come by the store to buy some quaaludes from her. Everyone smirked, but that afternoon, a limo pulled up to the front of the store and out popped Mr. Famous Rock Star, who went straight to the back room, picked up his 'ludes, and then went on his merry way.

Tower's problems started long before the internet - they started out as a "discount" chain, but dropped that idea sometime in the early 90s. Their main problem, though, even towards the end of my short tenure there, was Russ Solomon filling so many executive positions with his in-laws, who weren't the sort of businessman Russ was (btw, Russ' stationery always gave his title as "Grand Poobah"). They overexpanded in the 80s and ate shit for it in the 90s. They also used to stock *everything* and had people on staff that could talk intelligently about jazz, classical, country, gospel... the Tower employees got a lot of shit for being "rude," but the other side of the coin was most were incredibly knowledgable and passionate about their music. You're not going to get that at Best Buy - but you WILL get the rudeness!

Of course, in a way, Tower really died when CDs replaced albums. With albums, you could get all sorts of oddities from all sorts of sources, and Tower carried so much of that. I still remember going into the San Francisco store in 1972 and seeing a big stack of the UK version of "Let It Be," with the original "Get Back" title, in a flimsy box with the big book of movie stills that fell apart so easily in a stack on the floor for $2.99 - right next to a huge stack of pristine editions of "Two Virgins" by John and Yoko for $1.99! If I had a time machine, I'd take a couple of hundred dollars with me and buy them out.


GravatarVicki - have you thought of replacing the glass with something else? You could probably have all kinds of things cut to fit.

Marble or granite or even wood.


GravatarYes, but is there any evidence of sexual predation, homo or otherwise, among the mummies? I would think that that would be the first thing they'd check!
Little Brøther



most archeologists have the 'foley factor' as their number one concern!!!


GravatarAnd doesn't it just kill you that they've long since perfected the self-cleaning oven, and yet they can't manufacture a simple self-cleaning cocktail table?

This is something Andy Rooney needs to address.


GravatarI posted this elsewhere the other day, but I was proud of the snark, so here's it is:

These guys are one-trick ponies. They're incompetents, yes, but what's worse is that they are willful incompetents.

What we have in Washington right now is one party hogging the dance floor with lame white-guy moves, grooving to the most execrable Survivor tune you might imagine, and congratulating themselves for being the cool guys. And not a damn one of them knows how to dance.

All Foley did was draw attention to the dance floor. And the more people check out the scene going on there, the less willing they are to remain polite and considerate, the less willing they are to pretend not to notice the obvious.

I think that by election day, the consensus will be that somehow, we took a wrong turn and ended up at the geeks' party. And that if we don't get out pronto, it's going to rub off on us. Frankly, I'm wondering how the Republicans are going to make it through the next 5 weeks without attracting a Greek chorus of disgust everywhere they go. Normally polite people, once willing to pretend not to notice the obvious, now standing up, pointing, laughing derisively, and shouting "GEEK PARTY!" in any of a hundred different ways, whether by pointed questions or blunt statements of fact.

Sucks to be you, GOP, but it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.


Gravatarmost archeologists have the 'foley factor' as their number one concern!!!

"... it appears the royal advisor was sending suggestive papyrus messages to young King Tut. As we can all see here by the suggestive use of two owls and an ankh."


GravatarThe vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual (95%+, iirc), and over 90% of them know their victims.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Can't be said enough!


GravatarKirkuk curfew implemented

Thousands of Iraqi police and soldiers have imposed a curfew on the restive Iraqi oil city of Kirkuk, searching homes for weapons after all residents were ordered off the streets.

The city lay deserted after authorities placed it under the 36-hour curfew on Friday evening.

All traffic was banned and shops were forced to close.

Kirkuk, 250 km north of Baghdad, is an ethnically mixed city claimed by Arabs, Kurds and Turkmen which has seen an upsurge of violence.

Speaking to Aljazeera from Kirkuk, Turhan Abdul-Rahman Yusif, the deputy director of Kirkuk police, said: "The Iraqi forces have carried out the campaign and the preliminary results are very good. Kirkuk did not witness any security breakdown during the implementation of the plan.


Gravatar dave™©

Very cool story. Write it!


Gravatar"Dateline" recently infiltrated a mummy sex ring. The mummies would show up at the "child"'s house with a sarcophagus full of wine coolers and videos.
Jay C.- 4:41 pm


God damn it, why do I always forget to circle "sweeps weeks" on my calendar?


GravatarIt’s about the hypocrisy. The know it. We know it. They want to change the focus. “


Makes perfect sense to me.


GravatarYou could probably have all kinds of things cut to fit.

Marble or granite or even wood.


Yeah, but truth be told, the style of the table is too Americana for me. My mom was really into that "country" thing back then. I just kept them out of gratitude that I didn't have to buy tables.

Almost everything in my home, with the possible exception of some art glass pieces I have and the couches and chairs, which are getting dated, has been given to me. I love art, but it always ends up being the most expensive piece in the gallery, so I work with what I'm given.


GravatarHow many cubits? Don't forget to measure.


Gravatarhey, my email got read on lou dobbs!


GravatarEnd of Dayers are pissed at repukes... don't want their end times ruined....

10/7/2006 2:10:00 PM


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To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Antonio Conde, 832-758-6578, Deed Camp, 281-324-1818, both of the Global Peace Initiative

News Advisory:

More than one thousand churchgoers and several pastors will gather on Sunday to hear the world's most popular evangelist, Dr. K. A. Paul, deliver a major sermon on how Republicans have delayed the second coming of Jesus. With the midterm elections next month, Dr. Paul is launching a crusade to save America from the wrath of God and Republicans abusing their power and mired in scandal.

Dr. Paul has been supported and endorsed by major Republican and evangelical leaders across the country. He prayed with President Bush and mobilized thousands of voters in Florida to help him win the 2000 presidential election. Dr. Paul has also counseled more than 60 heads of state around the world.
http://releases.usnewswire.com/G...se.asp? id=73945


GravatarChris Wallace: "I used to sit in my office in ABC and have cable news on and wonder at the fact that for the vast majority of the day, ABC, CBS and NBC were in the selling-soap business, while the cable networks were actually doing news."

This guy is a deluded twit.


Gravatarhey, my email got read on lou dobbs!

Ooh, care to post?


GravatarJeb Bush Hides From Protesters In a Closet During Santorum Event...


Coward, just like his brother.


Gravatari forgot what i said to lou dobbs though....d'oh! oh well.


GravatarI love art, but it always ends up being the most expensive piece in the gallery, so I work with what I'm given.

So true. I am still pissed at the French for not letting me eat off of the Mona Lisa. Fuckin' culture fascists.


GravatarMore than one thousand churchgoers and several pastors will gather on Sunday to hear the world's most popular evangelist, Dr. K. A. Paul, deliver a major sermon on how Republicans have delayed the second coming of Jesus

In other news, thousands decry the failure of Americans to applaud to save Tinkerbell from vanishing.


GravatarPrior and Moe... Newfoundlanders don't like the Newfie word, as it is attached to jokes about their supposed stupidity. Regardless, I only know educated people there, and yet they still have it thick, and proudly teach it to their children.

LabraDOOR, on the other hand, has a nightmarish but wonderful 16th century Cotswoldesque accent (pardon my guess there) that is not apparent in the youth. They sound like Newfoundlanders. It seems TV is deleting history in speech.


GravatarOoh, care to post?
Jay C.

i totally forgot to watch it last night, i was tired.


Gravatar"More than one thousand churchgoers and several pastors will gather on Sunday to hear the world's most popular evangelist, Dr. K. A. Paul, deliver a major sermon on how Republicans have delayed the second coming of Jesus."

WTF is that about? I guess everyone needs a scapegoat.


GravatarI must say cleaning's kind of fun when you can take a break every twenty minutes or so.

I'm lazy today, but at least I'm getting it done.

Slow and steady wins the prize.


GravatarVery cool story. Write it!

It's an excerpt from my upcoming book, "What Did You Do in the Revolution, Daddy?"


GravatarVicki - have you thought of replacing the glass with something else? You could probably have all kinds of things cut to fit.

Why not commission a humongous sponge tabletop from a sponge quarry and eliminate the middleman, so to speak? The money you'd save on coasters alone would mean the sponge practically pays for itself!


GravatarDr. Paul has been supported and endorsed by major Republican and evangelical leaders across the country. He prayed with President Bush and mobilized thousands of voters in Florida to help him win the 2000 presidential election. Dr. Paul has also counseled more than 60 heads of state around the world.
http://releases.usnewswire.com/G....com/ G...se.asp? id=73945
pigboy



oh jesus. one of those war = sperm = second coming = fulfillment of prophecy guys?????????


GravatarWatching "Dr. Phibes Rises Again".

I love Vincent Price's movies!


Gravatar"More than one thousand churchgoers and several pastors will gather on Sunday to hear the world's most popular evangelist, Dr. K. A. Paul, deliver a major sermon on how Republicans have delayed the second coming of Jesus."

it must be all those scandals which contiue to hang around the Republicans.


GravatarWhy not commission a humongous sponge tabletop from a sponge quarry



GravatarThere's a show on PBS about obesity. I have the opposite problem

At 6-1, I should weigh about 160, 165. I was alarmed to see my weight go to 142, then 138

Atriots know everything--just ask them, you get an answer

What's a way to put on healthy weight, not fat? I'm not bad being thin, but I don't want to be unhealthily thin


GravatarTena - Holy shit, I just checked those business class prices. I only flew business when the company was paying, so didn't pay attention to costs. I assumed they were about double. Friggin 8k vs 600 in coach. Which is strange, because my frequent flyer miles is double for business class (or use to be). So yeah, looks like I'll be flying coach or using my FF miles because I sure as hell ain't paying an extra thousand an hour to be able to stretch my legs.


GravatarDrive-by to wonder why, at the height of election season, Susan Ralston, Rove's chief of staff, resigned today.

Curiouser and curiouser...


GravatarLittle Bro -- there's probably one right next to the soap mine.


GravatarPrior and Moe... Newfoundlanders don't like the Newfie word, as it is attached to jokes about their supposed stupidity. Regardless, I only know educated people there, and yet they still have it thick, and proudly teach it to their children.

LabraDOOR, on the other hand, has a nightmarish but wonderful 16th century Cotswoldesque accent (pardon my guess there) that is not apparent in the youth. They sound like Newfoundlanders. It seems TV is deleting history in speech.
Pitchforks & Torches



here's a 'newfie' joke making fun of other canadians:

so newfoundland is at war with upper and lower canada eh and the canadian army throws dynamite over the wall at the newfies.
so the newfies light it and throw it back


Gravatarit must be all those scandals which contiue to hang around the Republicans.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 4:51 pm | #

Yes Jeebus only loves honest, true blue, man on woman, americans that start wars in his name


Gravatarcite to Ralston's resignation through Smirking Chimp:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/1466


Gravatarcite to Ralston's resignation through Smirking Chimp:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/1466


GravatarAt 6-1, I should weigh about 160, 165. I was alarmed to see my weight go to 142, then 138

Atriots know everything--just ask them, you get an answer

What's a way to put on healthy weight, not fat? I'm not bad being thin, but I don't want to be unhealthily thin
Draco



seriously: 2 whiskeys a night or
bedtime snacks like a bowl of cereal
or
lots of ice cream


GravatarNews sources report that Jeb Bush comes out of the closet.


GravatarThat's why we're much better off making it about the other issues, because that's what it is about.
pie

What appeals to me about it, I guess, is the hypocrisy angle.
Virginia


The hypocrisy angle is the hook. It gets the voters we don't yet have who aren't sympathetic to gay issues or comfortable with sexual matters.

And with all due respect, Vicki, since the birth of this nation, American politics has never been anything but a veritable snake pit of "taint" and innuendo. It's how the game is played, but I'm sure the other side is happy to hear you don't agree. We spread the innuendo and keep the "taint" off our politicians and apply it to theirs. Something like that. You don't have to get down in the mud with us, but you don't have to look down your nose at those of us who do.


GravatarThe best flight I have found by far is the afternoon KLM flight.

They make it tough on the sunbathers sometimes.

http://www.airliners.net/open.fi...ev_id=& next_id=



GravatarLocal people, Muslim and non-muslim united in protest outside Jack Straw's surgery in Blackburn today


GravatarNews sources report that Jeb Bush comes out of the closet.
doodah | 10.07.06 - 4:54 pm | #

For years Jeb Bush hid the fact that he was a lying, stealing, two faced, coward....... today he came out of the closet.........


GravatarDraco, in addition to what you regularly eat, add a bottle of Ensure every day. Balanced nutrition, good vitamins and minerals.


GravatarSo true. I am still pissed at the French for not letting me eat off of the Mona Lisa. Fuckin' culture fascists.
spinoza

snobby french!
hey there was an 'artist' i.e. art student here in toronto who got his 15 minutes of fame eating tons of coloured jello before going to the Art Gallery of Ontario and inducing vomit over paintings
and then other 'cultural institutions' where he '**'performed'**'


Gravatar Wanna Bigger, 'Better', Wider War ? Or Maybe Worse ?


GravatarNo comment.


Gravataryou don't have to look down your nose at those of us who do.
My red dress


It's not necessary to castigate Vicki. She's not that kind of person, at all, and I always respect and enjoy hearing her point of view.


GravatarI must say cleaning's kind of fun when you can take a break every twenty minutes or so.Vicki

I only feel like that once a month, only when it's gotten too dirty. It's important keeping everything clean, but what a constant annoying chore. Great feeling, everything's clean!


GravatarPC? Mac? Fuck that shit - Amiga lives!!!


GravatarExcuse me, but could I ask a small favo(u)r? The next time anybody hears about my having had something or another built, which I then intend to paint myself, would you remind me not to? Painting raw wood, like painting raw wallboard, is agony. It is not worth the 'cost savings'. For 2k I coulda had this whole thing finished (far better than the job I'm doing) and done two months ago.

I am now going to embrace my inner stereotype and interrupt the activity by having a drink of whiskey.

.


Gravatar'add a bottle of Ensure every day. Balanced nutrition, good vitamins and minerals.
plantsman, lowercase'

I have heard that Ensure has some liver/kidney issues. Would check with physician.


GravatarWanna Bigger, 'Better', Wider War ? Or Maybe Worse ?
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom


no shit. within a month. terrifying. will change everything. im hanging on to my chair.


GravatarMagglio bangs one to deep left center (400'+) -

1-0 Tigers


GravatarSo what advice would you give to Ned right now, cause I think he needs some.


Gravatarplantsman--Thanks for such advice


GravatarI am now going to embrace my inner stereotype and interrupt the activity by having a drink of whiskey.

.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers



embrace your inner 'primer!'


GravatarHow can people recognize that sponge quarries are always near either soap mines or detergent wells, and still deny the workings of Intelligent Design?


GravatarDraco: eat more while exercising. Can't argue with conservation of energy, and if you're making muscle you'll make less fat...


GravatarSo what advice would you give to Ned right now, cause I think he needs some.
Sonny Disposition


I'm utterly baffled.


GravatarTena - Holy shit, I just checked those business class prices. I only flew business when the company was paying, so didn't pay attention to costs. I assumed they were about double. Friggin 8k vs 600 in coach. Which is strange, because my frequent flyer miles is double for business class (or use to be). So yeah, looks like I'll be flying coach or using my FF miles because I sure as hell ain't paying an extra thousand an hour to be able to stretch my legs.
Chris/TX


Yep. Sad, innit?

You get spoiled very quickly flying business and first class. It's a different world altogether.


Gravatar3-0 day tway


Gravatar3-0 Tigers

C-Mo hits a shot to left field with Pudge on.

Hang on Yankme's fans... gunna be a long afternoon -


Gravatarwine is great!

no wonder the Cult of Bacchus was such a riot in Ancient Rome


Gravatarhttp://www.airliners.net/open.fi...ev_id=& next_id=


Agent Orange


cool shadow in that pic


GravatarCarnation Instant Breakfast is about as good nutrition as Ensure in most cases, tastes better and is cheaper. Pets like it, too...


GravatarDraco, if you're at a convenience store, pick up a Ben & Jerry milk shake, e.g. Chunky Monkey.

That'll put hair on your chest.


Gravatar'It is not worth the 'cost savings'. For 2k I coulda had this whole thing finished (far better than the job I'm doing) and done two months ago.

I am now going to embrace my inner stereotype and interrupt the activity by having a drink of whiskey.'

You earned it. Have you tried spray-paint?


GravatarRuth--Thanks for that warning. I'm among very few who suffers not from obesity, but weight loss. And no, I'm no anorexic, avoiding or vomiting up food


GravatarAre the Yankees losing?

Nice weather we're having...


GravatarPainting raw wood, like painting raw wallboard, is agony. ...

.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |


Right surface prep
Right brushes
Right primer - right consistency
Right top coat - right consistency
What's the problem???


.


GravatarMoe, if she's using 'ton' she's talking about 2,000 lbs. A 'short ton'. So you quote her exactly. A Canadian knows perfectly well when the information is being broadcast generally and that metric will take second position.

Now, if you'd like to try broadcasting Plum P's radio show into Mexico, you wouldnt have that kind of problem, because the vast majority of educated Mexicans speak and read French. It's why NAFTA gatherings always make the US representatives irritable - the Canadians and the Mexicans get together and point...


GravatarDraco, if you are eating like you always have and you are still losing weight, you might want to check with a physician to see if there is something wrong.


Gravatarits a great evening, nice bottle of Tesco's Finest Cotes Du Rhone Villages, hanging out here and listening to the Scissor Sisters


GravatarSo what advice would you give to Ned right now, cause I think he needs some.
Sonny Disposition

his message of being nonwashington is good.


GravatarLittle Brother - haloscan had a mini breakdown when I was trying to answer you about why I would not have taken the elderly woman on the rest of the trip. It's not because of the care in Europe, but because it would end up being a nightmare for me and I suspect, a lot of other people.

I get what you said about dying doing what you love - I'm all for that. But if it's in another country, the people left behind have a huge hassle on their hands.

Later, batses. It's time for me to go wash my hair.



GravatarAgent Orange - Great pic. Those pilots really earn their money at some airports. I remember flying into the Reynosa airport, pilot has to do a corkscrew to come down or take off between the mountains.


GravatarYou don't have to get down in the mud with us, but you don't have to look down your nose at those of us who do.


I wasn't looking down my nose at you. I'm speaking what I believe. And I believe that people like you are on the wrong track in your desire to perpuate hate. I didn't chastize you, I offered my opinion. I just re-read my comment, and in no way did I indicate looking down my nose at you.

But I'm not starting in on one of these stupid wars with someone I've never seen post here before.


Gravatarwine is great! [...] | Moonbootica, Space&Freedom - 5:01 pm

According to Proverbs 20:1, "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise."

It doesn't say anything about abstaining or moderating, though. So guzzle down as much as you like! Apparently as long as you're not actually "led astray by it", you're spiritually and morally OK.

I'm sure that's a relief.


GravatarVirginia,

For some crazy reason, the concern trolls have been out in force lately, and I guess I attract them.

Whatevah.


GravatarLittle Brøther | 10.07.06 - 5:02 pm | #

Actually, I make my own milkshakes regularly. It's not helping me with weight loss. Really like the Coffee Chocolate Chip mixed with milk


GravatarRight surface prep
Right brushes
Right primer - right consistency
Right top coat - right consistency
What's the problem???


.
Agent Orange


ALL OF IT OVER MY HEAD!!!!!!!


GravatarDraco: you actually eating? Appetite OK?


GravatarBut I'm not starting in on one of these stupid wars with someone I've never seen post here before.

I, for one, would like to see you in a mud fight.


GravatarBut I'm not starting in on one of these stupid wars with someone I've never seen post here before.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 10.07.06 - 5:05 pm | #

When I first started posting here I got down on Merkin and hard. Who, boy! Did I get some feedback! It's always best to learn who's, who before making judgements.


GravatarI, for one, would like to see you in a mud fight.
Gomez


With you?


GravatarWhen I first started posting here I got down on Merkin and hard.

LOGICAL FALLACIOS?


Gravatarspeaking of starting fights, I think i've gone at least a week, maybe two without any hardcore slagging of hilary clinton


GravatarYay earl!


Gravatarmer--I'm sure there is something wrong, but doctors are expensive. I should see one anyway, ruin my credit rating


GravatarWhen I first started posting here I got down on Merkin and hard. Who, boy! Did I get some feedback!



I remember that. You are a friend of Charley, right?

Yeah, nobody fucks with merkin.


GravatarHey Gomez, come to think of it, my fireplace needs to be cleaned out. We could hose it down and wrestle it out in the remains of the ashes.

Heh.


GravatarWith you?

I'd let you win.


GravatarYay earl!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore




not that it *cough* changes my opinion!!!


GravatarWhen I first started posting here I got down on Merkin and hard.

LOGICAL FALLACIOS?
Jay C. | 10.07.06 - 5:09 pm | #

yep, his sense didn't make sense, which was his point.


Gravatarmer--I'm sure there is something wrong, but doctors are expensive. I should see one anyway, ruin my credit rating
Draco


pasta with lots of butter?


GravatarCNN is never concerned about the truth.
dipshit



Fuck - for once shopshit has told the truth about something!


GravatarHillary isn't my favorite, but her speech about the Torture Enabling and Habeas Corpus Restriction Act was the best one I've read of hers, or Bill's for that matter...


GravatarGreat pic. Those pilots really earn their money at some airports. I remember flying into the Reynosa airport, pilot has to do a corkscrew to come down or take off between the mountains.
Chris/TX |


747 pilots earning their money. Another day of crosswind landings at Kai Tak Airport Hong Kong (now fortunately closed).

17 second video-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...related& search=


GravatarI'd let you win.
Gomez


Smart man. You know who should come out on top.


GravatarWell, I never.

You have to go fishing with me, before any mud slinging occurs. I think I have seniority here.


Gravatar Epicentre of despair: rebuilding lives after the Pakistan earthquake

The earthquake that ripped through Pakistan's North West Frontier and Kashmir was among the worst in history. A year on, 30,000 frightened people remain in tents. Ann McFerran reports


GravatarOk, now you good people are embarrassing me. I come around here because I find all of you so interesting; it's gratifying to be able to fit in. Kind of like how when I got to architecture school, for the first time in my life, I didn't feel so much like an alien.
Jennifer


We like you, too, Jen!


GravatarALL OF IT OVER MY HEAD!!!!!!!
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers


THAT'S a problem...what is it?
.


GravatarI must say cleaning's kind of fun when you can take a break every twenty minutes or so.

I'm lazy today, but at least I'm getting it done.


Slacker!!

(said by someone who touches the vacuum once every 6 months or so)


GravatarI remember that. You are a friend of Charley, right?

Yeah, nobody fucks with merkin.
Chris/TX | 10.07.06 - 5:10 pm | #

No, I don't know Charley but I did get that impression when it came to Merkin


GravatarHillary isn't my favorite, but her speech about the Torture Enabling and Habeas Corpus Restriction Act was the best one I've read of hers, or Bill's for that matter...
ProfWombat



well thank god for that because we need as many informed voices as possible.........


GravatarDraco: I'm with mer; going to docs can cost you but if you have unexplained weight loss it's the right thing to do...


Gravatar"I don't think it's about "teh gay" but it might very well be about "covering up teh gay". As someone said way upthread, Hastert's actions don't make a lot of sense when viewed with just the facts we already know. The real danger I see here is that the Republicans will try to make it about teh gay rather than what it is actually about - teh corruption, teh incompetence, and teh lust for unfettered power.
Jennifer"

Exactly. It's also about character; the type of character that tries to confuse and obfuscate in order not only to avoid the seriousness of the main issue, but to further distract from other issues which directly affect our national interests. These are the actions and tactics of base traitors, not of men.


Gravatar"I don't think it's about "teh gay" but it might very well be about "covering up teh gay". As someone said way upthread, Hastert's actions don't make a lot of sense when viewed with just the facts we already know. The real danger I see here is that the Republicans will try to make it about teh gay rather than what it is actually about - teh corruption, teh incompetence, and teh lust for unfettered power.
Jennifer"

Exactly. It's also about character; the type of character that tries to confuse and obfuscate in order not only to avoid the seriousness of the main issue, but to further distract from other issues which directly affect our national interests. These are the actions and tactics of base traitors, not of men.


GravatarDraco: you actually eating? Appetite OK?
ProfWombat | 10.07.06 - 5:07 pm | #

I'm eating as normal, fond of creamy soups, fresh fruits, noodles, eggs. It's unaccountable that my weight keeps dropping


GravatarYou have to go fishing with me, before any mud slinging occurs. I think I have seniority here.




Of course you do! But there's that one little thingy that gets in the way!









Not that, ya dirty minded moonbats!

He sports a gorgeous bride!


GravatarRamada - see? Off in the distance, all that raw wood? It's 18" between each rib, each section is about 10' long. Aaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhh!


Gravatari've been tidying my room today, looks less like a student pigsty inbetween doing my various assigments.

it looks half decent.


GravatarSmart man. You know who should come out on top.

*letting the hanging curve fly by*


GravatarWhat's a way to put on healthy weight, not fat? I'm not bad being thin, but I don't want to be unhealthily thin

Lots of good, wholesome, non-Lite beer.
Trust me, it'll put that middle-aged spread back on you in no time!


GravatarVicki, some posters are going to assume that if you speak to them at all you're trying to undercut them.

I had the great privilege of working with the least underhanded politician every, so deny that in order to take interest in politics you need to assume that they need to be slimey.

And Draco, I recommend Ovaltine too.


Gravatari've been tidying my room today, looks less like a student pigsty inbetween doing my various assigments.

it looks half decent.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |


ya ever hear the beach boys song 'in my room'..................?

great tune


GravatarApropos of nothing: I hope against hope that the Sunday bobbleheads will wrench the issue from the virulent spin that the Foley affair is a matter of predatory gay misconduct, and assert the more wholesome and accurate fact that there is an epidemic of established Gooper politicians stepping on their pricks.

I can't watch the stuff, myself, so I'll find out here.


GravatarReports Undercut Hastert on Foley Timeline

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?i...tory? id=2539965

Oct. 7, 2006 — Republicans had hoped House Speaker Dennis Hastert's "the buck stops here" speech last Thursday would ease some of the pressure on him, but the daily drip of the Mark Foley scandal continues to keep the focus on what Hastert and his staff knew and when did they know it.

Today, the Washington Post quoted an unnamed Congressional staffer who said Hastert Chief of Staff Scott Palmer, one of the most powerful men on Capitol Hill, personally met with then-Rep. Foley, R-Fla., about his inappropriate contact with male pages. That meeting, the same source tells the Post, took place long before Hastert says his office was first alerted to "overly-friendly" e-mails Foley had sent to a Louisiana boy.

The New York Times also cites an anonymous Hill source who alleges Palmer was warned about Foley's troubling behavior well before Hastert has said his aides were first alerted in 2005.

Those two reports seem to back up former Foley Chief of Staff Kirk Fordham's account — first told to ABC News — that he warned Hastert's top aide about Foley's problems as far back as 2003.

Hastert's office is now declining to talk about specifics of the scandal, citing an ongoing House Ethics Committee investigation, which was launched after Palmer denied Fordham's account.

A new Newsweek poll conducted since the Foley scandal broke seems to suggest the scandal is bad news for the GOP's prospects in next month's elections. The poll shows that 53 percent of Americans want the Democrats to win control of Congress, including 10 percent of Republicans.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?i...tory? id=2539965

They must know about the thing with the pig.
-


Gravatar
earl 'cliche' guevera | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 5:16 pm | #


yeah


GravatarOk, now you good people are embarrassing me. I come around here because I find all of you so interesting; it's gratifying to be able to fit in. Kind of like how when I got to architecture school, for the first time in my life, I didn't feel so much like an alien.
Jennifer

They have that effect. Even after the Merkin affair I kept coming back anyway because of the postings made here. Keep coming back and participating. The more open minds the better.


GravatarAnd Draco, I recommend Ovaltine too.
Ruth, revolted



6:30 ovaltine
6:45 ensure
7:00 jamesons
7:15 pasta
7:30 guiness
7:45 repeat


GravatarAgent Orange - That was one wicked landing.

Pigboy - My bad. I could have sworn you said you found this place via a regular here in comments that was a friend.


Gravatar8:00 carnation instant breakfast


GravatarThe Times is reporting that Ralston resigned because she was said to have served as a conduit between Rove and Abramoff:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/0...ton& oref=slogin


GravatarDraco: I'm with mer; going to docs can cost you but if you have unexplained weight loss it's the right thing to do...
ProfWombat | 10.07.06 - 5:13 pm | #

it could be something relatively simple --a thyroid imbalance
but unexplained weight loss is a symptom of a bazillion things
I'm with the others--getit checked
no self medicating


Gravatar8:05 the Denny Hastert special.


Gravatar The list of British war casualties awaiting hearings

I hate this bollocks "war"


GravatarNow there are TWO battleships named 'Bush'."


And in Bar's case, there is also a battleAXE named Bush.


GravatarVicki, some posters are going to assume that if you speak to them at all you're trying to undercut them.


Point taken. Not worth my energy.


GravatarJay C

har!
indeed


GravatarI think your friend the pony is hawt.


Gravatar*letting the hanging curve fly by*


HOME RUN!



GravatarWhat's competence got to do with anything in Bush Bizarro World?
.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...er=emailarticle
.


GravatarOh, I thought they called the aircraft carrier the
USS Poppy.


GravatarAROD makes an error! lol he sucks this year


Gravatari've been tidying my room today, looks less like a student pigsty inbetween doing my various assigments.

it looks half decent.
- Moonbootica


phhhhtt!!
You need to do what most folks do in college dorms-

throw everything into the closet!!!
(ok, so there's hurling involved in the semi-annual cleaning of same, but, hey... your room stays really clean-looking!)


GravatarThey must know about the thing with the pig.
-
QuentinCompson | Homepage | 10.07.06 - 5:16 pm | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

Hey! I have an alibi... I mean accurate time line of my where abouts!


Gravatarpig sties ROCK!

/Katie Couric


GravatarDraco: the list of things that cause weight loss with normal or increased appetite is mostly non-scary and easy to fix without horrible diagnoses or screwing up your life. You should bite the bullet and see a doc.


GravatarNice fielding by Lightning Rod there.


GravatarThe Times is reporting that Ralston resigned because she was said to have served as a conduit between Rove and Abramoff:


And of course the White House declares that the case is now closed.
Repugs always 'looking forward'...especially when caught!
.


GravatarOn page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio — perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report…You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.

The rest is history


GravatarArod hast cost about $1million an error this year, lol.


GravatarBut, she's not going fishing... that's my gig.

I mind my manners here, missy. To accuse me of lesser, would otherwise be uncivilized.


GravatarThey also used to stock *everything* and had people on staff that could talk intelligently about jazz, classical, country, gospel..
Am an alumni of a similar store, now shuttered. Sigh. I MISS the rekkid bidness..


Gravatarduring my first year I saw some appalling and gross flats in the student village.

god it was ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

the flat I was in was all girls and we had a spotless place, was the quietess flat also in our block.

we got 100% pass rate on sanitry inspections.


GravatarWell, I guess when George Jr. Gets a ship named after him it will be based on
The Bush Lite Cruiser Class.


GravatarSonny Disposition, that is a disgusting story.


GravatarI mind my manners here, missy. To accuse me of lesser, would otherwise be uncivilized.




You are such a tease!

I can't win with you guys today.


GravatarI'm eating as normal, fond of creamy soups, fresh fruits, noodles, eggs. It's unaccountable that my weight keeps dropping
Draco


Draco, do you ever feel your heart seeming to race? Rushes of energy? Some wild ups and downs? Let me recommend you find in your area one of the services that will test various things for you - now that it's flu season, whoever is offering you flu shots at the grocery store will doubtless also offer you testing for other things.

Like being hyperthyroid. No kidding.


GravatarBarndog,

You sure you want me to put a worm on a hook?

I don't know...


GravatarYankees currently choking away the playoffs. A-Rod now batting 8th.

Hee. Hee.


GravatarPigboy - My bad. I could have sworn you said you found this place via a regular here in comments that was a friend.
Chris/TX | 10.07.06 - 5:18 pm | #

Actually I think I found the link on our leaders page. Lord on High Kos.. Hail Kos... Leader of Blogs! Lord of Blogs! ALL Hail Kos!!


GravatarI imagine a ship named after Dubya would be cursed.


Gravataryep, wasted effort, Vicki.

And when I went to phone bank so many people showed up that they sent me home since I've been there every single time they asked for someone. Now it looks good, everyone is turning up. Says a lot about the voting public, but we've always incorporated in our basic line that we have a winner in Glenn. Hey, it's nice to see that they're seeing the light.


Gravatar"The Times is reporting that Ralston resigned because she was said to have served as a conduit between Rove and Abramoff:"

That's a lie. It is more like she was a tube. And suitcases of cash are not like trucks.


Gravatar"It is coming apart for the New York Yankees here in Detroit, Michigan."


Gravatarher."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.

The rest is history
Sonny Disposition



question:
(assuming carville did that and what a thing to do)
why wouldn't kerry go anyway?


Gravatar4-0 Tigers. Pudge singles in Ordonez. Runners at the corners, 2 out - Torre is sweating.


GravatarThe guy who's taken over the Julia Child show, I think he spells his name Jacques Pepin, is pretty amazing, The way he chops garlic, smashes bones for soup marrow, cracks eggs for custard, adding caramel, all at the same time, ever efficiently


GravatarYankees currently choking away the playoffs. A-Rod now batting 8th.

Hee. Hee.
Gomez


This is good news. This is very good news.


GravatarBronx Bombers are falling apart.


GravatarStalag 17 is on TCM right now - with the 'man from Geneva' threatening the camp commander with the fact that 'after the war, there will be a war crimes tribunal - and you will be held responsible.'

Oh, those quaint Geneva Conventions!

.


Gravatar4-0 Tigers. Pudge singles in Ordonez. Runners at the corners, 2 out - Torre is sweating.


This is good news. This is very good news.


GravatarI ended up here via Tom Tomorrow way back in 2002....


GravatarI ended up here via Tom Tomorrow way back in 2002....


GravatarThe USS George W. Bush will be a garbage scow.


GravatarMaybe I should turn the teevee on?


GravatarThe rest is history
Sonny Disposition


I'm appalled.


GravatarI ended up here via...not sure, Buzzflash, I think, in 2003.


GravatarThe USS George W. Bush will be a garbage scow.

"the Laundry ship Walter Mondale."


Gravatar Office workers who leave computers on all night 'add to global warming'

Don't just switch off the television, switch off the computer too. Office workers who leave two million computers on every night are speeding up climate change, according to new research.

One in five white-collar workers told a national survey that they left their computers on at least three times a week, wasting more than £100m of electricity every year.

According to the PC Energy Report, power stations generating the electricity emit 200,000 tonnes of carbon a year - equivalent to the exhaust fumes of 120,000 4x4 cars. Switching off would save as much pollution as from all the cars in a city the size of Liverpool.


Gravatar"The USS George W. Bush will be a garbage scow.
Richard"

Very likely to be brought down by the Foley Frigate.


GravatarWhat's that Kos? I have spent far too much time on the computer? Yes, Kos I know. Okay so the yard won't mow itself......... I have orders and must go........ Hail Kos! Lord High Almighty Kos! Post well blogger participants...... post well....


GravatarI ended up here via Tom Tomorrow way back in 2002....


I also found Atrios via Tom Tomorrow.


GravatarI ended up here via Tom Tomorrow way back in 2002....
Jennifer


I can't remember how I ended up here, but I know who I'm going to blame for the buttload of Bs I'm gonna get . . .


GravatarI imagine a ship named after Dubya would be cursed.

It would be pretty amusing if it rear-ended the USS Gannon.


GravatarI ended up here via Prodigy in '89.


GravatarI ended up here via...not sure, Buzzflash, I think, in 2003.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I ended up here via BartCop.com, circa 2004. Around July or August, I think.


Gravatara ship named after Dubya will problay barely make it out of the dry dock.

and i bet it will go on vacation a lot.


GravatarMoon every two months or so we do a crack down on folks leaving their systems up. Not that it helps much, we have a day or two of compliance and they are right back at it.


GravatarTerry C,

You begin posting in the Fall of 2004 - I remember it because you were on a thread when the PITME troll had a meltdown once.

Don't ask me how I remember that, or why, but I do.


GravatarI ended up here via Prodigy in '89.

I picked up the original photocopied Atrios 'zine at an independant bookstore in '82.


GravatarHe says the president has authority, and that much is true. However, Bush, having stolen two elections and from thence proceeded to dump his country directly into the shitter for the exclusive benefit of his and his unelected vice presidents corrupt oil conglomerate pedophile cronies not only negates his position as president per se, but also negates any authority a legitimate holder of that office could rightfully claim.
Impeachment is far too kind a treatment for traitors.


GravatarHe says the president has authority, and that much is true. However, Bush, having stolen two elections and from thence proceeded to dump his country directly into the shitter for the exclusive benefit of his and his unelected vice presidents corrupt oil conglomerate pedophile cronies not only negates his position as president per se, but also negates any authority a legitimate holder of that office could rightfully claim.
Impeachment is far too kind a treatment for traitors.


GravatarI ended up here via BartCop.com, circa 2004. Around July or August, I think.
Terry C, Republiphobe



it was july 17 and that night you ordered in chinese according to our satellite photos


GravatarOops. Sorry.

Not BartCop.

The Smirking Chimp.


GravatarDraco, do you ever feel your heart seeming to race

GWPDA--Yes, that does happen. I don't know my illness, most people would like to be thinner


GravatarAmerica to Bush: "Ewww! You stink! Please just go away!"


GravatarI started lurking on this blog after my brother recommened it to me.

lurked for about 2 years before finally plucking up courage to post, starting with Friday Cat Blogging.

my family had just lost our second old cat Dieter and then we got new kittens around Easter time last year and I was eager to show them off as well.


GravatarThe booze cruiser George W. Bush, out of New Haven.


GravatarWhen I first saw the link to Atrios, I thought it was a philosophy web site. And then when I opened the comments, I realized it was a fucking togo party!


GravatarMYDD:
The Season for Apologies
by Jonathan Singer, Sat Oct 07, 2006 at 04:12:33

Two very endangered Republican Congressmen, Tom Reynolds (NY-26) and Don Sherwood (PA-10) -- both of whose races the Cook Political Report downgraded to "toss-up" status yesterday -- have come out with ads apologizing for letting down their constituents.


Gravatar"I picked up the original photocopied Atrios 'zine at an independant bookstore in '82.
Jay C."

Was that before or after the shareware disk set sold in baggies.


GravatarI ended up here in 1892 after I got sick of all the yellow journalism.


GravatarI don't use worms for salmon and steelhead.. occasionally for steelhead.

I use spawnbags, flies and jigs. I'm actually betting you'd enjoy it quite a bit. Hell, Pie's boss steelhead fishes a great deal, and she's asked me to her cabin a couple times to fish in the past few years.

It kind of the unwritten rule amongst the truly hardcore steelheaders - fishing first, anything else is secondary.


Gravatarthe USS George W Bush will be used to smuggle cocaine....


GravatarIt's too bad there's no easy way to tell your puter to go to sleep at a certain time each day, and wake up at a regular time as well.


GravatarOf course it's not about teh gay. It's about the poor pig. As Mark Shields says, "Bestiality is never consensual."

-
QuentinCompson


Wow, my ewe used to jump up and down ever time I walked into the sheep pen. I thot that was con-sensual.


Gravatar'I imagine a ship named after Dubya would be cursed.
Moonbootica, Space&Freedom |

by everyone who sees it.


Gravatarthey discuss it here


GravatarDraco, I was more or less joking about the milk shakes, although I do like them. But it you're counting up the votes, add one more to the "get it checked out".

I'm not trying to hype or scare you-- I react with hostility to that sort of appeal. But it so happens that I've been getting news lately of a former co-worker who went from being a full-fleshed big woman to a skeleton over a matter of months.

She finally did get proper care and is receiving treatment. But I gather that it's not uncommon for people to tolerate weight loss because (as in her case) they could stand to lose a few pounds and were pleased to be losing weight without working at it. I would be, too. I know that's not what you're saying; I'm just explaining why I'm recommending you look into it ASAP.

Regardless of why a person tolerates chronic weight loss, sometimes things are discovered upon delayed or belated care that could be more easily remedied if revealed sooner. Duh. And there's some lead time involved; as someone noted, they have to isolate the true cause of the persistent weight loss by a process of elimination.

Well, you get my drift. End of sermon.


Gravatarim waiting for an important phone call.
but it's time for a brief nap using my......this is not a joke..........'Still Point Inducer'...one piece of molded foam like two ball shapes for under the head upper neck....stretches the neck and assists cranial sacral fluid to flow...


Gravatari'm so glad I found you guys, its like your a second family, my extended network of friends.

i've never met any of you yet, however you seem so close and friendly.

i love this place.


GravatarBarndog, I've never fished, but I love the lake. And I have that hippie outdoorsy thing.

Maybe a Saturday by month's end?


GravatarI ended up here in 1892 after I got sick of all the yellow journalism.

As a "new media" type, Atrios was one of the first broadsheet writers to stop using those fs as the letter "s".


Gravatar4-0 Tigers. Pudge singles in Ordonez. Runners at the corners, 2 out - Torre is sweating
Go Tiggers! Ain't nuthin' like making A-Rod pout!


GravatarMoon ~

{{{hugs}}}!

You'd make any mom proud!


Gravatarit became easier to post here reguarly once i got my own laptop.


GravatarAs a "new media" type, Atrios was one of the first broadsheet writers to stop using those fs as the letter "s".

Yeeah, it was always a bitch to read about Atrios wearing a feerfucker suit.


GravatarA Yankees loss. Brass bands playing, children eating hot dogs in the golden fall evening. Who sasy this isn't a great country?


GravatarDraco:

I going to throw in MY two cents.

See a doctor, please.


GravatarGA Republican voter

New Ga State Flag
A White Peach sitting on a Ritz Cracker (tip the good rogerailes during the recent flag flap


Gravatar Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 10.07.06 - 5:34 pm | #

(((hugs back))



GravatarYeeah, it was always a bitch to read about Atrios wearing a feerfucker suit.

It was all over once he stopped capitalizing Nouns.


GravatarGo Tiggers! Ain't nuthin' like making A-Rod pout!

Pay-Rod's pain delights this Mariner fan.

Plus, the defeat of Satan's Team is always a good thing.


GravatarIn "Soldier: The Life of Colin Powell," Powell's wife, Alma, says the former secretary of state was "callously used to promote a war she wished had never happened," author Karen DeYoung writes. "They needed him to do it because they knew people would believe him," she told DeYoung, an editor at the Washington Post


GravatarI remember when atrios began using koina greek. What a sellout.


Gravatari certainly got a lot better idea of American local politics.

and i know far too much about Loserman than I really should.


GravatarI remember when atrios began using koina greek. What a sellout.

New media, New Testament.


GravatarIn "Soldier: The Life of Colin Powell," Powell's wife, Alma, says the former secretary of state was "callously used to promote a war she wished had never happened," author Karen DeYoung writes. "They needed him to do it because they knew people would believe him," she told DeYoung, an editor at the Washington Post

Shorter version: Colin Powell has not spine.


GravatarDraco, do you ever feel your heart seeming to race

GWPDA--Yes, that does happen. I don't know my illness, most people would like to be thinner
Draco


Honest - get a simple TSH panel test at the local grocery store - look in your newspaper for who's giving flu shots and that'll be the clue. It'll run you about $40. If it's wacky, make an appointment with an endocrinolgist. If it isn't, contact your local public health clinic and declare yourself a candidate for 'teaching'! And I'm not going to be scary about this either, but since I'm here in the beautiful southwest, and since I know four people already who've been diagnosed, getting a TB test is a good idea too....


GravatarDraco, you should look into this problem because it's not just your body losing weight, it's your heart losing muscle as well, and that could cause problems. sorry to be a downer.


GravatarMaybe we'll see what happens this week with the job thing. I'd like to see you with a couple days off between places of employment for some recharge time.

If it was my choice of options that is. God only knows you could use it.


GravatarGWPDA--Did you ever see the Truffaut review of Stalag 17 saying "There are a series of identical prisoner barracks, except one is populated by Paramount bit players"?


GravatarDraco:

Add protein and some complex carbs. Lean meat, fish is great. Whole wheat pasta. Lift weights 2-3 times/week. Two-three months of that should add 10-15 pounds of muscle.


GravatarDavid Broder poo-poohs the use of clay tablets as a "fad;" goes back to delivering news via recited alliterative rhyme.


GravatarHey, look, $250 million doesn't go as far as it used to!

Next year we'll bring in some REALLY big-money players!


GravatarIf The Yankees lose, will HolyJoe declare that "This result can't stand?"


GravatarIf The Yankees lose, will HolyJoe declare that "This result can't stand?"

The Yankees will continue to play as independents.


GravatarDraco, if a private physician is scary price-wise, there are health depts everywhere.


Gravatar[Friends, I am glad to see our cyber-body fat sucking program is working so well. If we can get a few more people like Draco to post here, we should have enough fluid to make an entire person.]


GravatarI'd like to see you with a couple days off between places of employment for some recharge time.


That is exactly what I'm thinking.

Man, if I am blessed enough to get this new job, I think I'm going to bawl my eyes out for a few days just for the relief it all.

The chance to feel valued and challenged again. I need that so much in my life.

Getting choked up just thinking about the possibility. Think I'll go clean my mantle now.


GravatarIt's no coincidence that the GOP and the Yankees are going down at the same time, because the Yankees are the GOP of baseball teams. Did Foley do in the Yankees? Yes, indeedie.


Gravatar i'm so glad I found you guys, its like your a second family, my extended network of friends.

Which is why, Little Sister, I'm telling you that on Monday you need to wander around and find a nice Historical Society to volunteer with. Some group which specialises in tramps around Roman ruins. I want you out working well with others, leading lectures and walking around at least three times a week.

Eh?

And now, I'm back to the painting. Oh I don't wanna do it.....


Gravatar"used to promote a war she wished had never happened,""

Is there ever a war anyone wished happened?

Unless of course you are a cheetoh stained enthusiast of Avalon Hill games and LGF.


GravatarTo be worthy of his administration, a ship named after Dubya would be completed only after massive cost overruns by an incompetent and corrupt contractor that had never built ships before. The ship would sink as soon as it slid out of drydock.


GravatarGWPDA,

You and I - both doing our Saturday things - no motivation, really, except necessity.



Gravatar5 minute nap of 'out like a light' and awake with a body-long shudder.
time to make cornbread.


GravatarRoyal marines take over in Helmand

Royal Marines are taking over military operations in Helmand, Afghanistan as 16 Air Assault Brigade head home from their six-month tour.

Troops from 3 Commando Brigade Royal Marines, based in south west England and Arbroath, Scotland, are part of a Nato force whose mission is to support the democratically-elected government in Afghanistan.

Within hours of arriving, soldiers were on joint patrols with 16 Air Assault Brigade.

Sergeant Bas Shaw, from 3 Commando Brigade headquarters, said: "I've served in many parts of the world and this is by far my biggest challenge.

"We have trained hard for this mission and we are raring to go.

"Days like today when you see the local population and the hope in the eyes of the children make it all worthwhile."


GravatarI don't want to waste time my weight loss. It is a bit odd, obesity the much more common problem

So thanks for your help, won't trouble you further


GravatarAh, behold the power of positive thinking.


GravatarUnless of course you are a cheetoh stained enthusiast of Avalon Hill games and LGF.

Don't dis AH games!

Although I do recall rules being put into effect at gaming cons that wearing Nazi uniforms was out of bounds.


Gravatar[...] Powell's wife, Alma, says the former secretary of state was "callously used to promote a war she wished had never happened," [...]

I envision Powell's fate as religious iconography: a full-length portrait of a stripped and naked Powell, with his rack of medals for a fig leaf, suspended from marionette strings-- strings plunged into his flesh, and blood dripping from the stigmata.

Not my will, but Thine, be done.


GravatarSo James Carville and conversations with his hideous botoxed face wife cost us the election in 2004
why am I not surprised
this is the woman who was Bush's representative to the gay community in 2000 and who lied lied lied
Carville must be a total loser

upthread from the woodward book


Gravatar"To be worthy of his administration, a ship named after Dubya would be completed only after massive cost overruns by an incompetent and corrupt contractor that had never built ships before. The ship would sink as soon as it slid out of drydock."

And blessed by Donald Rumsfeld.


Gravatarthe Yankees are the GOP of baseball teams.

And the Cowboys are the Republicans of the NFL.

Are there Republican teams in the NBA?


GravatarAravosis on CNN ...


GravatarDraco, if a private physician is scary price-wise, there are health depts everywhere.
Ruth, revolted


walk in clinics?


GravatarDavid Broder poo-poohs the use of clay tablets

personal secret: everytime someone says poo-poohs, i think of them pooing on themselves.


Gravatarlittle brother interesting image of powell-------


would that be in a brueghel or bosch painting?

or perhaps spanish manuscript illumination?


GravatarA ghostly Tommy Lasorda just appeared in the corner of the Fox TV screen.

Don't do that to me, guys.


GravatarMaybe I can lure Wade Boggs and Ken Phelps outta retirement, for, what, $12, 15 million per?

And Luis Tiant, what's he doing these days?


GravatarAre there Republican teams in the NBA?

The Lakers. Perhaps the Celtics.

DEFINITELY the Bulls in the Michael Jordan era.


Gravatarittle brother interesting image of powell-------


would that be in a brueghel or bosch painting?


Ralph Steadman


GravatarI lurves me some Bosch.


GravatarNewton Minnow--Thanks for that advice. I didn't realize I was halfway liked, all the good will I received


GravatarAre there Republican teams in the NBA?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11

The Celtics!


GravatarAnd Luis Tiant, what's he doing these days?
George Steinbrenner


How about Satchel Paige?

He's one of the game's immortals, right?


GravatarDraco:

But first, see your doctor.


Gravatar[Friends, I am glad to see our cyber-body fat sucking program is working so well. If we can get a few more people like Draco to post here, we should have enough fluid to make an entire person.]
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in


I'd like to volunteer to be a donor. Where do I sign up?


GravatarThe Celtics!
david mizner


Oh, duh. Absolutely.


Gravatar*comes in from gardening*

Do garter snakes eat snails?


GravatarVermeer


GravatarHow about Satchel Paige?

Yeah, he's a good one. I'll get Costanza right on it.


GravatarDEFINITELY the Bulls in the Michael Jordan era.

Hm. You'd have to account for Dennis Rodman to convince me.


GravatarThe Celtics!
david mizner


The NBA's salary cap makes it tough to come up with a "Yankees of..." equivalent. In the NFL, I'd say that my beloved Patriots mirror BushCo. in terms of calculating deception, ruthlessness in dealing with subordinates, etc.


GravatarDraco, I don't know you, even in online sense, but I hope you heed the suggestions of people here and see a doctor. Extreme weight loss is nothing to take lightly.


Gravatarheironmymous bosch opened the first liposuction clinic


GravatarAfternoon, rational people.


GravatarA ghostly Tommy Lasorda just appeared in the corner of the Fox TV screen.

And we're sure getting a lot of Kerry Healey Slime Machine ads between innings..Just runnin' scared...


GravatarThe Celtics!

Not the "old" classic Celtics that dominated the NBA in the late 50's through the end of the 60's. Low-budget operation, run on a shoestring. Also, drafted the first black player in the NBA, the first team to start five black players.

Don't know much about the current Celtics.


GravatarUnless of course you are a cheetoh stained enthusiast of Avalon Hill games

Do NOT fucking dis Avalon Hill.


GravatarKILOTHREAD!!!!
.


GravatarAnd if you weren't there when I said it before, thank all of you for pushing me to get a Honda since it's such a good car, rather than my inferior choices. I went ahead and did it, since I know that after the election Hondas are going to be really hard to find when gas prices skyrocket. [And my old Maxima would pro'ly have kept going for at least another year, but there's the gas consideration.] I am pleased. And now must cut out, thnks.


GravatarHow about Satchel Paige?


On that note, the Negro League's Buck O'Neal died today at 94.

He was the classy gent who was recently denied entrance to the Hall of Fame by one vote.


GravatarDEFINITELY the Bulls in the Michael Jordan era.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 10.07.06 - 5:46 pm | #


Can we leave the pervasive partisan attribution of cultural artifacts to the insane people like Brent Bozell?

Please.


Gravataris finding jessica simpson sexy a shameful admission?


GravatarHm. You'd have to account for Dennis Rodman to convince me.

Nothing accounts for Dennis Rodman.


GravatarIn the NFL, I'd say that my beloved Patriots mirror BushCo. in terms of calculating deception, ruthlessness in dealing with subordinates, etc.
Jay C.


I've been a Redskins fan (to some extent) since my childhood in the fifties, so it pains me to say that current owner Daniel Snyder most closely approximates The Chimp™ in terms of his management style and success.


GravatarWelp, the sports chat started at the perfect moment. I'm gonna make us some eggs benedict for dinner.

Later, beloved lunatics!


GravatarPowell was "callously used to promote a war" ?

Powell allowed himself to be used like the cheap whore that he is. Fuck the fucking traitor who stood by and allowed the military he used to belong to be devastated by what he knew to be a fool's errand. So much for the "Powell doctrine".


GravatarWarriors -Ross Perot


GravatarGarter Snake Diet, from Wikipedia:
Garter snakes, like all snakes, are carnivorous. Their diet consists of almost any creature that they are capable of overpowering: insects, slugs, snails, earthworms, leeches, lizards, amphibians, baby birds, and small rodents.. When near the water, they will eat fish and other aquatic animals. The ribbon snake in particular favors frogs (including tadpoles), readily eating them despite their strong chemical defenses.[citation needed] Food is swallowed whole. Although dining mostly upon live animals, they will sometimes eat eggs or even carrion as well.


Gravatarhey Draco, I never told you this, but you changed my entire perception of 9-11. I watched all those google videos you referred to and now I am convinced it was an inside job. Just so you know, I am a mechanical engineer so I have a little bit of knowledge of the matter of structural forces, etc.

so, thanks for that.


GravatarSo dare I ask, since so many Michigeese and Michiganders are here?

Who won? MSU or U of M?


GravatarAfternoon, rational people.
Diane C. Barking-Mad



diane you say that like it's not 'morning in america!'



GravatarDon't know much about the current Celtics.
Dino


Paul Pierce, Delonte West and Sebastien Telfair. Quite a change from the square squads of the past.

Not your father's Celtics.


Gravatar earl 'cliche' guevera was commenter #1000.
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Gravatarearl 'cliche' guevera was commenter #1000.
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Jeffraham Prestonian



The Millenium is with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarCan we leave the pervasive partisan attribution of cultural artifacts to the insane people like Brent Bozell?

Oh, stop. Just having a little fun.

And the 1997 Seattle Supersonics were the Ned Lamont of basketball.


GravatarMore than one thousand churchgoers and several pastors will gather on Sunday to hear the world's most popular evangelist, Dr. K. A. Paul, deliver a major sermon on how Republicans have delayed the second coming of Jesus

They've also conspired to delay the arrival of the Kwisatch Haderach and the One who will bring balance to the Force.


Gravataris finding jessica simpson sexy a shameful admission?
earl 'cliche' guevera


Don't know about shameful.

Puzzling, perhaps.


GravatarOf pride and protection rackets.


GravatarIf I were queen of everything
I would get a third party to keep up the noise ala swiftboaties --rather than letting individual dems make the case in their ads

one just really horrible ad and then send out somebody who thinks they should all resign for letting it happend --they self publish a quickie book and pimp it on all the tv shows while casting aspersions on
the character of all Republicans
making charges without actually making them


GravatarWhat's a way to put on healthy weight, not fat? I'm not bad being thin, but I don't want to be unhealthily thin
Draco


I'll give you my extra 10 lbs. if you want it.


GravatarThe Powell Doctrine:

Be a fucking whore


GravatarDon't know about shameful.

Puzzling, perhaps.
Terry C, Republiphobe






GravatarI love Dennis Rodman, or I did when he was a Piston.

Good times, with Isaiah Thomas, Bill Laimbeer, Joe Dumars, VJ...


GravatarPaul Pierce, Delonte West and Sebastien Telfair. Quite a change from the square squads of the past

Yeah, unfortunately, I know about THAT part of the Celtics, and it ain't pretty.

I meant that I don't know much about the ownership now, how the organization is run, etc.


GravatarLarry Bird. French Lick.

That is all.


GravatarSuper Golden Crisp cereal most closely brings to mind the Know Nothing party of years past.

Hellman's mayo is pure Whig.


GravatarThe Emerging Russian Giant Plays its Cards Strategically

by F. William Engdahl


Gravatardiane you say that like it's not 'morning in america!'


earl 'cliche' guevera


Earl, this place is...well, special. Weird sometimes, but special.



GravatarPowell Doctrine - "I'll cover your ass and you cover my ass, boss."
-


GravatarNot your father's Celtics.
Jay C.


But the Bird, McHale, Parish Celtics? Now that was a Republican basketball team.


Gravatarwe thought he was a good boy. but after viewing the brueghel paintings he told the family we should bring the cow and goats into the living room for warmth at night.
of course he was too busy to clean up their waste.
that fell on ma and me and we are both getting on in years.
still though, he's a good boy.


GravatarWhat's a way to put on healthy weight, not fat? I'm not bad being thin, but I don't want to be unhealthily thin

Look, kid, four, five orders of fried shrimp and six, seven chocolate cream pies just before bed did wonders for me.


Gravataris finding jessica simpson sexy a shameful admission?
earl 'cliche' guevera


Jessica Simpson...the blondest blonde of them all.


Gravatarmimi--Over at antiwar.com they harbor suspicions that 9-11 was an inside job, don't say so directly, give evidence.

I, of course don't know, can't possibly


GravatarGettin' to be an old fashioned whuppin' in Detroit.


Gravatar[...] Powell's wife, Alma, says the former secretary of state was "callously used to promote a war she wished had never happened," [...]



Now he's hiding behind a woman's skirts.

Nice!


Gravataris finding jessica simpson sexy a shameful admission?
earl 'cliche' guevera


Far be it from me to judge.

Sex is in the brain for me.


GravatarThis might be common knowledge in Eschatonia but it seems there's another big intel report about Iraq that the administration is trying to keep under wraps till after the election. Seems like every Dem everywhere should put up a stink, no?


GravatarBut the Bird, McHale, Parish Celtics? Now that was a Republican basketball team.

Spin writer Chuck Klosterman pegged them as the team of Greatest Generation values. Rugged individualism and no room for loafers.


GravatarHellman's mayo is pure Whig.
Jay C.


Folgers' coffee is Mugwump.

Put it in your mug, it tastes like wump.


GravatarBut the Bird, McHale, Parish Celtics? Now that was a Republican basketball team.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11


Yep!


GravatarMy garden seems to have become a snail ranch. I haven't found anything small enough for Snakey free-range, though. Maybe I should start an indoor snail farm.

I put three small crickets in with him/her two days ago. I haven't seen any crickets today.


Gravatarafter my husband died, the doctor put me on Prozac for a little while. when I got a cold, I took some sinus medication. I think I had to eat a tub of ice cream every day to keep my weight up, and I thought it was because I was sick - it wasn't - it was taking 2 stimulants at the same time. I could have died.


Gravataris finding jessica simpson sexy a shameful admission?
earl 'cliche' guevera

You should never feel bad about your attractions; juts watch the IMs.


Gravatarif sex is mental and zen is nothing and jessica simpson is blonde:


are the sheets white, rumpled, or missing?


Gravataris finding jessica simpson sexy a shameful admission?
earl 'cliche' guevera

Jessica Simpson...the blondest blonde of them all.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Great body.

Not pretty. Even worse with no make-up.


GravatarUK troops 'need more helicopters'

UK forces fighting the Taleban in Afghanistan need more troop-carrying helicopters to carry out their mission, the British commander there has said.

Brigadier Ed Butler requested more Chinook helicopters in response to a promise by Prime Minister Tony Blair of whatever extra resources were needed.

Mr Blair praised troops' courage during a "very tough" operation.

Shadow Defence Secretary Liam Fox said the Army was overstretched, and was already waiting for promised supplies.

Mr Blair's comments came in an interview on British Forces TV and Radio to mark the fifth anniversary of operations in Afghanistan.


Gravataris finding jessica simpson sexy a shameful admission?

Well, she does have a nice body. I'd be ashamed to admit that I liked her music, however.


GravatarI guess my definition of Republican right now is "corporate, dishonest, all talk, no walk."

Bird, Parrish, McHale definitely weren't that.

Okay, Bird could talk some smack, but he did it all on the court, not in the press.


GravatarWell, she does have a nice body. I'd be ashamed to admit that I liked her music, however.
Richard


She sings?


GravatarYou should never feel bad about your attractions; juts watch the IMs.
david mizner





maf54: yah


GravatarWell, she does have a nice body. I'd be ashamed to admit that I liked her music, however.
Richard

She sings?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11


Like she acts.............badly!


Gravatarwould that be in a brueghel or bosch painting?

Goya


GravatarName of the House Ethics Committee Chief Counsel?

William V. O'Reilly.


GravatarGood times, with Isaiah Thomas, Bill Laimbeer, Joe Dumars, VJ...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Bill Laimbeer now a coach in WNBA.

Surprised the hell out of me.


GravatarBut the Bird, McHale, Parish Celtics? Now that was a Republican basketball team.
Had a job interview in the building next to the Fleet Center yesterday. When I came out, there were goddamned ELEPHANTS being walked around Causeway Street. Apparently the circus is in town..


Gravatarokay. cornbread making calls.
have fun 'youse' guys


Gravatarcatch you laters

gonna watch a DVD


GravatarDraco

If the problem is that you are not eating, I suggest Clintec-Carnation's Peptamin. You can flavour/sweeten it however you want (unlike Boost, etc, that always taste like liquidized chocolate bar), and it is nutritionally complete, right down to the trace minerals.


GravatarOkay, Bird could talk some smack, but he did it all on the court, not in the press.
Dino


Remember Danny Ainge?

I hated that guy.

I remember when a Sixers player got fined for fighting with Ainge and people all over the country sent money in to pay the fine.

He wasn't a popular guy.


GravatarI had no idea who Jessica Simpson was, had to look her up at Wikipedia


GravatarTiggers score again.. C'mon, Fox, gimme some close-ups of Big Baby A-Rod..


Gravatar"ELEPHANTS being walked around Causeway Street. Apparently the circus is in town."

I once watched them bring the elephants through the streets of New York, for the circus. They do it in the middle of the night. BTW, the cover story in the Times magazine is about the impact of man's intrusion on the world of elephants: essentially we're driving elephants crazy. Very sad.


GravatarI spent all of my married years watching sports with my ex-husband. Huge Pistons' and Lions' fan. He loved Da Bears. He liked the Tigers. I quite enjoy basketball to this day, I admit.

On our honeymoon, we had to stop in at the Green Bay Packers Hall of fucking Fame, which was several hundred miles out of the way of our trip home.


Gravatar Apparently the circus is in town..
bill buckner


Here comes the blind commissioner, they've got him in a trance...


GravatarJessica Simpson?

Ah, I wouldn't kick her out of bed fer eatin' crackers!


GravatarI spent all of my married years watching sports with my ex-husband.



So did I, Vicki.

Don't bother much anymore.


GravatarOn our honeymoon, we had to stop in at the Green Bay Packers Hall of fucking Fame, which was several hundred miles out of the way of our trip home.
Vicki,


I can't believe you stayed married long enough to produce Audrey after that beginning.



GravatarI had no idea who Jessica Simpson was, had to look her up at Wikipedia
Draco



Not missing much, my friend.


GravatarYeah, Ainge was a jerk, not sure that makes them a "Republican" team though.

People sent money in to Robert Parrish's fine after he punched Bill Laimbeer, too.

Laimbeer was widely loathed.


GravatarRemember Danny Ainge?

I hated that guy.


He was, perhaps, even more annoying when he played major league baseball because he pretty much sucked.


GravatarIs there a reason we don't have a new thread?


Gravatarthe cover story in the Times magazine is about the impact of man's intrusion on the world of elephants: essentially we're driving elephants crazy. Very sad.
david mizner


I believe in Kenya, they built a hotel across an elaphant trail. The elephants refused to stop using the trail, so several times a day a bunch of wild elephants walk through the lobby of this very upscale hotel, and out the back door.


GravatarAnd the Cowboys are the Republicans of the NFL.

Are there Republican teams in the NBA?


Politics and sports don't mix. I don't like any of the owners of any sports team I can think of (except Mark Cuban and I pulled for the Heat last year).

The Cowboys are likely to kick da Iggles ass manana. heh.


GravatarIs there a reason we don't have a new thread?
nick


Atrios is on the road.


This has been another episode of simple answers to simple questions.


GravatarKevin McHale always looked to me to be a charter member of the undead.


GravatarI think other players in the league even chipped in to help Parrish out after he punched Laimbeer.


GravatarLaimbeer is currently the head coach of the Detroit Shock in the Women's National Basketball Association (WNBA).

And he's as colorful as ever.


GravatarIs there a reason we don't have a new thread?
nick


Dad's away on business.

We're driving mom nuts, but we're gonna get potched good when he gets home.

heehee.


GravatarI can't believe you stayed married long enough to produce Audrey after that beginning.


I've told you that the unity candle didn't light, didn't I? And the priest who married us left the Church to marry - a bad omen according to my grandma (which, I've read, means that you get an easy anullment - ha!)!

It wasn't long after Audrey that it ended, believe me.


Gravatarhey nick, owls!!


GravatarKevin McHale always looked to me to be a charter member of the undead.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


The ex used to call him Herman Munster.


GravatarAnd the 1997 Seattle Supersonics were the Ned Lamont of basketball.
Jay C.


And here's hoping that Ned Lamont will prove to be the 1975 Golden State Warriors of 2006 US Senate candidates.
-


GravatarPolitics and sports don't mix. I don't like any of the owners of any sports team I can think of (except Mark Cuban and I pulled for the Heat last year).

Yeah, lots of big-business-meets-Jesus.

I'm happy to root for my local team's laundry. As long as they aren't beating their wives.


GravatarI think ol' Jessica is purty... but what do I know? I LOL'd last night when Ferguson showed a clip of her saying she'd dated every man on the cast and crew of her last movie.
.


GravatarSteveLG,
"Desolation Row?"


GravatarSheets.

Wow, nick... you got talent.


GravatarAnd here's hoping that Ned Lamont will prove to be the 1975 Golden State Warriors of 2006 US Senate candidates.
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QuentinCompson


I still remember that NBA final.

What a shocker that was.


GravatarIs there a reason we don't have a new thread?
nick

Ask and you'll shall receive...


GravatarAnd here's hoping that Ned Lamont will prove to be the 1975 Golden State Warriors of 2006 US Senate candidates.

Now THERE was a team.

Even if the obnoxious Rick Barry was the star.


Gravatarnick: Is there a reason we don't have a new thread?

Don Atriosio had a sit-down with some of the other bosses out on the left coast.
.


GravatarJR, kerosene and a match | 10.07.06 - 6:04 pm

Thanks for your concern. This is what's so puzzling. I always eat a healthy balanced diet, but I'm losing wieght. No known reason.


GravatarEven if the obnoxious Rick Barry was the star.
Dino


Even more obnoxious as an announcer.

Bill Russell and he did NOT get along.


Gravatar"Desolation Row?"
bill buckner


Now at midnight all the agents
And the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone
That knows more than they do
Then they bring them to the factory
Where the heart-attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders
And then the kerosene
Is brought down from the castles
By insurance men who go
Check to see that nobody is escaping
To Desolation Row


Gravatari hate concern trolls.
we don't need you, especially now. if anything, you only create doubt.
please don't worry about polls.
you are the lazy fuckers who don't vote anyway.
if you must type something on the internet, pls see Atrios post F.U. from yesterday, and use that thesis and pick one of 100 Bush crimes to talk about.
nothing more, nothing less.


sorry, i just had to type that, as Im seeing (not here) alot lately


Gravatarsheets!


GravatarI still remember that NBA final.

What a shocker that was.
Terry C, Republiphobe


I was bouncing off the walls of my Oakland flat at the time. And echoing the sports announcer nostalgia from last night, I really miss Bill King.
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GravatarOct. 7, 2006 — Hastert's chief of staff met with Foley to discuss the time and attention Foley was giving House pages YEARS before Hastert admits becoming aware of the issue, a current House staffer told ABC News.

The staffer told ABC News of learning in November 2005 about an EARLIER meeting between Scott Palmer and Foley.

November 2005 was around the time Shimkus, head of the House Page Board, and then-clerk Trandahl, who was the administrator of the page program, met with Foley about an e-mail exchange Foley had with a former page sponsored by Rodney Alexander, R-Lousiana.

"At that time, I became aware that there was a PREVIOUS meeting" between Foley and Palmer, the House staffer told ABC News.

That seems to corroborate the account of Kirk Fordham, Foley's former chief of staff, who said he had gone to Palmer to ask Hastert to intervene and try to change Foley's behavior as FAR BACK as 2003.

Palmer has since said, "What Kirk Fordham said did not happen."

On Wednesday, Fordham was forced to resign as chief of staff to Thomas Reynolds, R-New York

Before the scandal became public, sources told ABC News, Trandahl had called Fordham several times to complain that Foley was paying too much attention to pages. Fordham said he would talk with Foley about the matter, according to the accounts.

Usually, Foley's behavior would change for a short time, only to return — and Trandahl would call Fordham AGAIN, according to the sources.

After SEVERAL such cycles, the sources said, Fordham and Trandahl discussed seeking the help of Hastert's office, which led to Fordham's meeting with Palmer.

Today, The Washington Post and The New York Times also reported claims that Palmer was AWARE of allegations against Foley before Hastert ACKNOWLEDGES knowing about them.

Hastert is now declining to talk about specifics of the scandal".

It's all the LIBRUL MEDIAS fault.
It's all the DEMOCRATS fault.
It's all PELOSIS fault.
It's all the AYRABS fault.

IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY NOW.


GravatarJeebus fuckin christ.... "I do want to clairify this"?

You fucking slime fuck..... so is this how it works?

You say something stupid in front of a camera, on air, then blame Ned Lamont for saying what you said on air, as if what you have been saying on air and that was recorded would somehow be proof of? Of what?

Proof that you are a lying sack of crap who takes the voters of Connecticut as a bunch of dimwitted fools?

Good thing the liberal media will be all over this.


GravatarFirst!!

Okay 1028th (or so) but making the same point.

Man I remember the day when bloggers would bow down to having 1000 page views a week.

"What hath God wrought? God has wrought rotten." Or something like that.


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