HULK SMASHED
Long Live the PDRE!
Hua!!
yes
Sneaky bastard. How many threads has he got in the queue?
Jagshemash!
good morning batses, have any right-wing Republican bible-thumpers been outed yet today?
Billmon on the Army Times calling for Rummy's head:
"If they're (the generals) taking aim at the SecDef -- and timing their battery fire for maximum political effect -- it's reasonable to believe that the generals have reached a point that in many countries would be followed in short order by a military coup.
They are, in other words, right fucking pissed at Shrub for giving Rummy the presidential promise of another two years on the job."
I'm going to see Borat today. Niiiiice!
Repost, cuz I can't keep up:
More news on what a super-excellent job our Preznit and his lackeys are doing in the foreign policy department:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
art...2436948,00.html
Six Arab states join rush to go nuclear
By Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor
Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, UAE and Saudi Arabia seek atom technology
THE SPECTRE of a nuclear race in the Middle East was raised yesterday when six Arab states announced that they were embarking on programmes to master atomic technology.
The move, which follows the failure by the West to curb Iran’s controversial nuclear programme, could see a rapid spread of nuclear reactors in one of the world’s most unstable regions, stretching from the Gulf to the Levant and into North Africa.
Of course, the repukes will say this is why we need to re-elect them.
Ha. That was then. Tuesday is the future. I know I'm not gonna vote for John Kerry. I'm voting for thet guy running agin him. Wait a sec, I hafta look up who he is.
from below:
I don't bother. 'course, I don't really bother mowing the lawn in summer, either.
NTodd, The Man | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 11:45 am
Have you considered a goat or a sheep? They're handy in so many ways.
If they're (the generals) taking aim at the SecDef -- and timing their battery fire for maximum political effect -- it's reasonable to believe that the generals have reached a point that in many countries would be followed in short order by a military coup.
Well, Bush has turned us into just another third-world nation, so I expect the coup to be the next order of business if things get even worse.
Here's my prediction for what happens the evening of Nov. 7th.
And now I'm off to rake leaves.
You all realize, of course, that if the Democrats take Congress, and manage to pass some legislation over the Republicans' dead bodies, and that legislation is wildly successful and positive... that Bush will take credit for all of it.
Well, I cannot keep up, so I'll keep uploading these Curly videos to YouTube before my batt'ry dies. With luck, I'll sneak on for a peek late tonight.
♥
'Well, Bush has turned us into just another third-world nation, so I expect the coup to be the next order of business if things get even worse.
Supreme Commander Thor'
Make that fourth-world, fifth-rate.
at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
'The GOP has entered fully into service of the myth that re-aligning government's role to serving business, at the expense of public service, was the right path. Greed has become the GOP mantra.'
Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, UAE and Saudi Arabia seek atom technology
Of course it'll be all right for Saudi Arabia to have the Bomb. After all, what bad things have they ever done to us?
'The GOP has entered fully into service of the myth that re-aligning government's role to serving business, at the expense of public service, was the right path. Greed has become the GOP mantra.'
I guess this means when Bush flies out of the country in a big-ass hury to keep from being hung, the plane's gonna be filled with suitcases of money.
HoldStillMerryGoRound!
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
How are you feeling? Last I heard (at 6:00a, CST today), you were heading to bed yesterday just after lunchtime. All is well?
I'll see if you come back, but then, really -- I'm all YouTube until the battery goes.
.
from below:
One way for him to restore his former reputation is to switch to supporting and being a Democrat. He could be a conservatve Dem, fiscally and strong on enlightened and effective defence. I think that would be great for the US.
Bad Art
No, thank you.
Terry C, Hates GOP | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 11:56 am |
No fucking way. There are many problems with Powell, his acquiescence to Bush and Cheney only the most recent.
Karl Rove's got 'the math'. Ted Haggard's got 'the meth'.
And after the Democrats sweep Congress, the Republicans will commence their whine that it was all illegitimate and thus should not be counted.... Lord, I am so tired of that whine.
Here. All politics really is local.
but but but Karl says we can win
this poll is a lie I tell you a lie
Karl Rove's got 'the math'.
I thought math was hard for this bunch?
Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, UAE and Saudi Arabia seek atom technology
Of course it'll be all right for Saudi Arabia to have the Bomb. After all, what bad things have they ever done to us?
First we got the bomb, and that was good
'Cause we love peace and motherhood
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's okay
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way
Who's next?
(my favorite line is "Then China got the bomb, but have no fears; they can't wipe us out for at least five years!")
Just finished phone banking, lots of happy folks going out even here in NTX where the incumbent is going down, but last count was still 48% - trying to turn the GOPerverts out of office.
And nyclept, I'm clapping all my furry feet for the PDRE.
Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, UAE and Saudi Arabia seek atom technology
Just check the GOP tubes. It's all laid out for ya.
So when will they learn that when they keep w under wraps his numbers go up. When people are reminded what a fetid load of crap he is, his numbers go down.
Love it!
http://www.comcast.net/news/inde.../04/
513561.html
Sounds like these 6 Arab countries downloaded Saddam's nuclear bomb documents from Bush's website before it was taken down.
There are many problems with Powell, his acquiescence to Bush and Cheney only the most recent.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
He's pissed away his credibility LONG ago!
'the plane's gonna be filled with suitcases of money.
Supreme Commander Thor '
he sent it on ahead.
Saw Borat last night. Laughed all the way through, including ten minutes AFTERWARDS in the car on the way home.
Amazing, awesome show. Atrios was spot on, mate.
So when will they learn that when they keep w under wraps his numbers go up. When people are reminded what a fetid load of crap he is, his numbers go down.
ql Beale
So let us hope he just stays out and keeps putting his foot in his mouth.
32 percent would most like to see the Republicans keep control.
The same assholes.
Republican liars are out with their excuses already this is common
but what about redistricting shouldn't that have saved the goopers from the six year itch
So when will they learn that when they keep w under wraps his numbers go up. When people are reminded what a fetid load of crap he is, his numbers go down.
ql Beale
Word.
Karl Rove's got 'the math'. Ted Haggard's got 'the meth'.
Stinky
The only poll I believe is the one conducted in 2004.
one last drag up the stairs, and then off to go grocery shopping:
But even taking that interpretation out of it, you have to acknowledge that a win's a win. They will control an entire chamber of Congress. That's not breaking their hegemony, and even if the Dems take the House, impeachment goes nowhere.
Impeachment? It still goes nowhere even in a 51-49 Dem Senate. And I really, really hope that the House does not go that far anyway. It will accomplish nothing other than to allow all the Goopers to start playing the victim, no matter how gratifying we in the peanut gallery might find it. I think that Nancy Pelosi, who would no doubt like to roast Little Boots' balls on the end of a stick like a couple of marshmallows, understands that and will not do it, just like she has said.
Revenge is a dish best served cold, and that would just be a hot-headed move. The point is not to apply the maximum legal sanction to the Bushistas that we can, but to repudiate their policies and their enablers in the eyes of the electorate as much as possible, so that we can achieve a real governing mandate in 2008. IMO, that involves a lot of exposing their nefarious deeds and a lot of finding ways to get the MSM into a chickenwing in order to force them to thoroughly cover said exposures. Politicians need to be made to run from the label "Republican" the same way we have been made to run from the label "liberal". That kind of turnaround of electoral mentality can only be bought about with patience and subtlety. To borrow the words of John Cleese, we can't just go charging straight to the clitoris here.
I hope that saying this doesn't subject me to a hail of concern-trollery accusations, but that is honestly the way I feel. We get one real shot at putting these fuckers in the shitter here, and I don't want us to go off half-cocked, no matter how much GWB may actually deserve to be impeached.
Where's the Osama video? It's all they have left.
So when will they learn that when they keep w under wraps his numbers go up. When people are reminded what a fetid load of crap he is, his numbers go down.
Get him out there!
Repeating from below: We need seven. With six Senate, and assuming Lieberman wins, it's 51-49. But Lieberman will act as if he is a Republican, and indeed I think he will switch parties in January. That makes it 50-50, and Cheney then gets to break the tie.
So it's gotta be seven. That way, it's 52-48, so even if Lieberman goes Republican on us, there's no tie, and Cheney doesn't get a vote.
How come Colin isn't campaigning for Steele
blerb,
If not now, when? If not these circumstances, which?
If ever a president deserved impeachment, it's this one.
only 29 percent say they are satisfied.
That Pastor Ted is a great masooser.
Saw Borat last night. Laughed all the way through, including ten minutes AFTERWARDS in the car on the way home.
Amazing, awesome show. Atrios was spot on, mate.
Daddy-O
Sweet. We were gonna go this afternoon, but one of the boys had a XC end of the season party, so we're all gonna go to the matinee tomorrow. Been looking forward to this for months.
why are we even talking about these trivial matters when there are naked men carrying concealed weapons?
priorities, people. priorities.
There's plenty of work to finish on Abramoff's tentacles and the GOP subversion of churches for political ends -- wipe out a number of tax exemptions, point out the futilty of forcing gays to stay in the closet, plenty to do, impeachment or not.
Ntodd--you lied. The only poll you claim is worth paying attention to is Assmussen.
'but what about redistricting shouldn't that have saved the goopers from the six year itch
liars for bush '
Take a look at Delay, king of the redistricting scum, and where his district is now. About to go Dem. Not everyone in TX is a crook, try as they might to make it so.
Yes, but the Dems willl come to power, they won't know what do to with it. If the first thing they do is overturn that stain of a "Tortilla Curtain", I shall begin to have faith.
But to be sure, the Dems have no solution for Iraq
Although it is likely we will relect the Gropper governor again it isn't going to be the blow out everyone thinks
Anti war democrats are going to the polls in big numbers and they will not be voting for the Gropper posing as a Democrat he already tried to start a war a the border
"You can't get much more concealed than that," Horgan said.
(my favorite line is "Then China got the bomb, but have no fears; they can't wipe us out for at least five years!")
Eli
We'll try to stay serene and calm,
When ALAAAAAABAAAMA gets the bomb!
Who's next, who's neeexxxxtt, who's next?!
Tom Lehrer, "Who's Next", That Was The Week That Was
Anyone else old enough to have seen the show when it ran live?
blerb,
If not now, when? If not these circumstances, which?
If ever a president deserved impeachment, it's this one.
My take is, start with investigations, and if they uncover so much dirt that the people *demand* impeachment, well, the people's will must be served.
Surprised that Bush hasn't called a strategic terrorism alert.
Blerb--Nancy Pelosi isn't screaming for impeachment. What she's asking for are investigations.
If that leads to impeachment, so be it.
. It will accomplish nothing other than to allow all the Goopers to start playing the victim, no matter how gratifying we in the peanut gallery might find it.
Tell you what, I'll take his resignation instead of impeaching him, but either the Democrats revisit habeas and torture and the signing statements and the rest of this unAmerican, illegal crap or I want him impeached.
The reason, blerb, is because we have a constitutional crisis sitting right in the middle of the fucking living room and it has to be addressed immediately if we take the majority.
For the country, blerb. Not for revenge, because it's the law.
If ever a president deserved impeachment, it's this one.
noblejoanie
True that, but I have this fantasy which might prove to be much more effective, not to mention fun.
What the House does is start investigating members of the Administration...Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, right down the line...bring out so much damaging information that there are resignations right and left.
We could isolate Bush completely, leaving him no one to prop him up, neutering him for the remainder of his misbegotten term.
This Cheney "full speed ahead" quote might be the final Repuke disaster of the campaign.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/s...tory?
id=2627805
http://www.comcast.net/news/poli...l&
cvqh=itn_bush
Fuck you, Monkey Boy!
If that leads to impeachment, so be it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 11.04.06 - 12:11 pm | #
and if it leads to criminal charges or a military tribunal with charges of treason, so be it.
The GOP in supposedly purple Minnesota, running ads for senate thus (link from earlier thread):
10/24 – Kennedy has been reduced to airing commercials with the tag line “I am Mark Kennedy and I approved this message, even if it’s not what you want to hear.” Not a good sign.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Surprised that Bush hasn't called a strategic terrorism alert.
Nur al-cubicle
=======================
Where's the Osama video? It's all they have left.
P O'Neill
Won't work anymore.
Impeachment? It still goes nowhere even in a 51-49 Dem Senate.
No, it goes somewhere, if not ultimately in a guilty verdict--but there's absolutely no sense in trying if the GOP retains a majority. And keep in mind that was merely one element of my overarching point: if the Dems don't win the Senate, they've lost. And lost big with current sentiment. There's no way to spin out of that.
The flip is that if the Dems win a 1-seat margin, that's huge. It means they control the agenda and can, presuming they control the entire Leg branch, resist and even reverse Bush policy.
I just finished my MPRE, BTW.
The country is broken. Our government is broken. It has got to be fixed.
In order to fix it, he has got to be made to answer. WE cannot go on this way - not with these signing statements, not with the president having power the constitution never gave him, not with this unitary executive bullshit.
It has got to be addressed.
Iran Contra investigations all over again. But why waste the time? These characters always maneuver to get a Presidental Pardon and a job at CNN.
"We've got the basic strategy right," Cheney told George Stephanopoulos in an interview to be broadcast Sunday on "This Week."
"...And as you know, George, I have never claimed I hadn't met a person I had nor lied about what I had said earlier on Television before, except those several times i did."
We could isolate Bush completely, leaving him no one to prop him up, neutering him for the remainder of his misbegotten term.
and in a final act, Bush, coked, tina-ed, and drunk out of his mind, pushes the red button.
Greed has become the GOP mantra.'
"has become"?????????
No fair.
11/07 coincides with the day of the GOP Evangelical leaders' scheduled monthly tryst with male prostitutes. They lose their deposit of $300 if they can't make it.
Ntodd--you lied. The only poll you claim is worth paying attention to is Assmussen.
Thus I am qualified to be a politician.
BTW, one more note about impeachment. Even without a supermajority, it would be worthwhile to have a trial in the Senate. It would air plenty of real evidence about corruption and wrongdoing, change the national debate, and possibly even win over the "moderate" GOP members if done effectively.
I just finished my MPRE, BTW.
congrats! are you ethical now? 
blerb,
If not now, when? If not these circumstances, which?
If ever a president deserved impeachment, it's this one.
noblejoanie
Look, I agree that from a standpoint of objective reality, Bush may well deserve to be impeached. His abuses of power are probably as bad as Nixon's were if not even worse. But I resolutely stand by my assertion that if we go that route, we will severely imperil our real shot at obtaining a governing mandate in 2008 that is substantially more durable than the one Bill CLinton got in 1990. To me, getting that mandate is of paramount importance, and what may costitute George Bush's just desserts takes a back seat to that. This is about saving human civilization to me, not destroying Chimpy.
What Tena said.
If the damn Democrats want us to continue to believe in a nation of laws, they have no choice but to move articles of impeachment. Yes, we'll lose, probably. But it is absolutely the right thing to do.
Last night my wife and I somehow started watching Trading Spouses (never ever did or thought we would). IT swapped a wife who worked as a lobsterman (a "lobstah-person"? from MA (pure NE working class family at its most basic) with a glam gal part time real estate agent from fabulous Boulder CO. who had dumped her former husband and parent of her two adolescent daughters for a younger (but quickly aging) and mentally immature Val Kilmer look alike. It was actually fascinating from a pop sociology perspective. It is obviously scripted to pit family values from queer loving MA vs. health conscious, affluent, but emotionally brittle CO.
Now this election cycle gets me wondering about what is the essence of what has been dividing us in this country so absolutley over the past couple of decades, and especially since Bush took over. It's like we are Shia and Sunni here, but there is this undefinable dividing principal at work. We think their political hero's are the spawn of Satan and they think the exact same about ours. Just crazy.
'Anyone else old enough to have seen the show when it ran live?
David Derbes'
If you want to hear some played for you of Tom Lehrer's classics-
Go to http://members.aol.com/quentncre...rer/
pigeons.htm
and in a final act, Bush, coked, tina-ed, and drunk out of his mind, pushes the red button.
watertiger | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 12:15 pm | #
happily, carl levin has switched the real red button for one that just make fart noises.
everyone, including bush, is happy.
and in a final act, Bush, coked, tina-ed, and drunk out of his mind, pushes the red button.
watertiger
Nah - he'd pass out first.
"We've got the basic strategy right," Cheney told George Stephanopoulos
[The army of the undead is unleashed!] When you removed the book from the cradle, did you speak the words? Did you speak the exact words?
Look, maybe I didn't say every tiny syllable, no. But basically I said them, yeah.
It would air plenty of real evidence about corruption and wrongdoing, change the national debate, and possibly even win over the "moderate" GOP members if done effectively.
NTodd, The Man | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 12:16 pm | #
stop being so fucking reasonable. i want blood.
[note to nsa: figurative blood.]
congrats! are you ethical now?
The great thing about the MPRE is that I only have to get a C- to practice in any jurisdiction.
Via CNN:
Should CIA interrogation tactics be a state secret?
Yes
No
http://www.cnn.com/
Hit It.
happily, carl levin has switched the real red button for one that just make fart noises.
Look, maybe I didn't say every tiny syllable, no. But basically I said them, yeah.
Cheney as Ash? Doesn't seem to have the right Anti-hero Charisma. He's more a member of the Army of Darkness...
The great thing about the MPRE is that I only have to get a C- to practice in any jurisdiction.
underwhelm |
with grades like that, you could be preznit!
Wow, GOP down to 20 to hold the house on Tradesports.
Money is seriously walking right now.
The next few days, if you can, get people to the polls.
'The White House is fighting for its life, because if the public rebukes it by voting in Democrats in either or both houses of congress, the spending spree is over and responsible financial management is nigh. Congressional oversight is much needed. They hates it, with reason. '
see http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Does anyone know the latest poll figures on Lamont v Lieberman?
It is hard for me to accept that this jerk can lose in the primary and win the election.
ah, fuck.
happily, carl levin has switched the real red button for one that just make fart noises.
"Hey, why does this button say 'Easy' on it?"
-- G.W. Bush
I don't want blood - I want the rule of law back. I want my constitution back in full force and affect.
Look, I agree that from a standpoint of objective reality, Bush may well deserve to be impeached. His abuses of power are probably as bad as Nixon's were if not even worse
I don't care about political expediency - that's how we got in this mess, goddamn it. No more. Either the law is obeyed or it isn't and if it isn't, we're fucked.
It is hard for me to accept that this jerk can lose in the primary and win the election.
Tom |
his party was not allowed to vote in that primary.
The great thing about the MPRE is that I only have to get a C- to practice in any jurisdiction.
yup! i think that is the most funny thing about it.
More sucky sheets.
Should CIA interrogation tactics be a state secret?
Yes, and they therefore shouldn't be revealed to people without proper clearance.
Hey, from the MSNBC ad on the right, I can see that my prediction came true: Reverend Ted admitted to the drugs, but not to the assfucking.
He's in counseling, right?
Oh, and he'll say he was molested as a youth.
"if the Dems don't win the Senate, they've lost"
If they don't win the senate then we lost. If dems don't go to the polls we all loose. If the current state of affairs doesn't get dems to the polls then great experiment fails.
underwhelm, When will you know your score?
'"has become"?????????
Terry C, Hates GOP'
It started out along the lines of compassionate conservatism. Of course, we knew it was lying, but there were about 30% who were fooled.
>Hey, from the MSNBC ad on the right, I can see that my prediction came true: Reverend Ted admitted to the drugs, but not to the assfucking.>
Well, not quite. He admitted to buying crystal meth but then he says he threw it out.
As we all know, when someone is curious about experimenting with illegal drugs for the first time crystal meth is usually the first thing one purchases.
blerb,
If not now, when? If not these circumstances, which?
If ever a president deserved impeachment, it's this one.
My take is, start with investigations, and if they uncover so much dirt that the people *demand* impeachment, well, the people's will must be served.
'We could isolate Bush completely, leaving him no one to prop him up, neutering him for the remainder of his misbegotten term.
Diane C. Barking-Mad '
I have a dream. the Cretin in Chief forced to live by his wits.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahhaha
underwhelm, When will you know your score?
5 weeks, I guess.
Does anyone know the latest poll figures on Lamont v Lieberman?
It is hard for me to accept that this jerk can lose in the primary and win the election.
Tom
I'm not sure how the polls are conducted, but I think younger voters are under-represented (caller ID, cell phones, etc.), They also seem to be motivated.
I don't know about the rest of you but I feel as if my head may explode between now and Wednesday morning.
Here in Oregon we have vote by mail and the ballots had to be sent yesterday to get in on time. I am done. I can't do anymore and despite the polls I have an overwhelming sense that something diabolically fucked up is going to happen to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The last 5 years have taught us that it is impossible to be overly cynical.
I am going for a long walk in the woods.
"if the Dems don't win the Senate, they've lost"
That's silly. Sure, I'd love us to take the Senate, but even if we only take The House, we gain the speakership, control of the committees, and subpoena power - way more than we have now.
and in a final act, Bush, coked, tina-ed, and drunk out of his mind, pushes the red button.
I think that's been on his to-do list from day one, and he's jumping up & down like a boy who needs a bathroom asking Unka Karl and Unka Dick if today's the day.
Tom, I know just how you feel -- But than I remember that last year at this time Lou Beres, then head of the Oregon Christian Coalition, now revealed as an incestuous child molester, was often quted approvingly in The Oregonian. No more.
Tell you what, I'll take his resignation instead of impeaching him, ... because we have a constitutional crisis sitting right in the middle of the fucking living room and it has to be addressed ...For the country, blerb. Not for revenge, because it's the law.
Tena
I will not dispute the merits of the case for impeachment, Tena. And I agree that we have some very serious issues to contend with regarding the erosion of the rule of law by this administration. I thoroughly agree that that damage has to be undone somehow. Apparently, you believe that that will only happen if George Bush resigns or is forced out of office. I, on the other hand, believe that the damage can be undone without that taking place, and moeover that it will never happen anyway. I also believe that two years will not be enough time to sufficiently establish the case for impeachment in the minds of the American public, and that drawing up and passing articles of impeachment would therefore backfire on us in 2008. I guess that time will tell which of us is right. Now, off to buy food....
Tom,
I know how you feel. We have early voting here in TX and I voted last Sunday. At this point I just want the whole damn thing to be over. And of course, every tv and radio spouts nothing but election related news, as though nothing else is happening in the world (11 US dead in Iraq in three days, anyone?).
I am burned out on the whole pre-election circus. I just want the count.
Come on Tuesday.
blerb, do not forget that likewise 2 years will not remove the bitter taste of Iraq from the public.
My take is, start with investigations, and if they uncover so much dirt that the people *demand* impeachment, well, the people's will must be served.
Eli
One last clarification -- if the impeachment question ever gets better than a 50% "yes" rating in any reputable poll of national voter sentiment, then I will take back everything else I have said and cry "full steam ahead!". But I really, really doubt that will ever happen.
Wolcott's got some thoughts on Ted Haggard:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott
Chimpy screaming in Musgrave's district.
What I'd like to know, WRT Lieberwhore is this. Shouldn't there be a law that states that you can't turn parties right after an election? He's running as a D but we all know he will probably turn R within nanoseconds should he win.
As Molly Ivins says "ya gotta dance with the one that brung you". He should either be forced to declare his intentions or not run.
Is she Speaker Yet?
Can't come soon enough.
I believe that impeachment will be used as threat to get Bush in line and forget his dream of being the American Dictator. They did it to Nixon..the papers were all drawn up and he was told either you retire or we proceed to impeach !!
Sounds good but part of the Miltary Commissions Act makes him exempt from some of the more egregious charges and even in the Dums sweep to a majority, they won't persue impeachment.
No matter the outcome of this selection, we have to put the heat on bigtime if we are to end this fiasco and bring these creeps to justice
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