I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarYes!


GravatarOh the thrill--it's been too long!


Gravatar"His pants just fell down and he tripped over them, and I was just trying to help him up!"


Gravatarsexually immoral behavior.


Anyone?


Gravatarsexually immoral behavior.


Anyone?


I'm for it.


GravatarLube stains on the bible, I'm guessing....


GravatarEli--you really *do* have some magic trick for sussin' new threads, don't you?


GravatarHe'll always be welcome in my room in rehab...

For the counseling, of course....

-


GravatarHe was just helping that gay prostitute over the fence.


GravatarThat answers that question, they're not totally clueless.

I wonder what it was that tipped them off.


GravatarMrs. Rev is a looker.


Think I've got a shot?


GravatarI'm for it.
Eli | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:15 pm | #


It's a date, friend.


GravatarThe statement says they called in experts familiar with the alleged behavior. I wonder if it was a show and tell.


GravatarOT but after I spent time doing the calculations I am going to repeat this from the last thread.

What everyone keeps leaving out is the vast empty farmland that farmers are paid not to farm because we have such a glut of produce like corn. The gov't is paying a lot of farmers to keep grassland prairie, too, which is a nice natural environment and encourages wild turkeys, prairie chickens and the like, which I wouldn't want to plow up. But there's a lot of grain growing land that just stays idle and can be used for whatever can produce ethanol.

All the wastes running off from those agricultural industries producing too many animals in too little space - also can be used as fertilizer instead of pollution.


Replacing all the oil would require about 35 percent of the total land area of the US. CIA world factbook lists 18 percent as "arable"

My guess would be that there might be 100,000,000 acres that could be used. If we got Corn Belt yields on those acres we could get 42,000,000,000 gallons which is about 13 percent of our present oil use.


GravatarHe was just helping that gay prostitute over the fence.
Attaturk |

And he's all paid for too.


GravatarEli--you really *do* have some magic trick for sussin' new threads, don't you?

Oh, I've got something.


GravatarYesterday, Radio France's Rachel Maddow interviewed Jeff Sharlett, the author of "Soldiers of Christ," the definitive article on Ted Haggard published in Harpers last Spring. From the interview, we learn the following facts about Pastor Ted's battle against a shadowy group of demon-possessed evil doers that he calls "Control."

* Pastor Ted staked out homosexual bars and sex shops in an effort to recruit the establishment's patrons into a Christianist lifestyle.
* He laid siege to homosexual bars and federal buildings by praying in front of them and rebuking the demons within them.
* One Haggard follower would take a garden sprayer filled with blessed water and spray it onto sinful intersections.
* Pastor Ted says that Satan sent a witch to stab him.
* His parishioners say Haggard resurrected a dead person.

I have a recording of the interview at Jesus' General


GravatarWell, according to these people, having sex standing up is immoral.

That could lead to dancing!


GravatarIt's a date, friend.

But what *kind* of date? Hint: We should wait until Tuesday.


GravatarWell, well, well.

Guess that was a prostate "massage" after all.


GravatarEthanol uses up more energy than it produces. Republican economics.


GravatarLube stains on the bible, I'm guessing....

Nah, the pages were stuck together. Then the whole thing was cut in half and a cavity removed to hide the stash of astroglide.......
.


GravatarReplacing all the oil would require about 35 percent of the total land area of the US. CIA world factbook lists 18 percent as "arable"
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"Nice country you got there, Canada. 'Be a shame if somethin' should happen to it."


GravatarJust heard the statement on CNN...that church board statement did not sound like they were even the teensyest weensyest bit amused, nor inclined to "begin the healing process" or any of that usual pap.

"Dismissed and removed" I believe was the term they used for his current status. Not even "his resignation has been accepted" or politer phrasing. "Hit the road Jack, don' chew come back no mo no mo" would be about the only stronger way they could have put it.

Heh.


Gravatar* One Haggard follower would take a garden sprayer filled with blessed water and spray it onto sinful intersections.

Oh, for fuck's sake.


GravatarI wonder what it was that tipped them off.
olvlzl


The videos?


GravatarIs it OK according to this church to engage in immorally sexual conduct?


Gravatar* Pastor Ted staked out homosexual bars and sex shops in an effort to recruit the establishment's patrons into a Christianist lifestyle.


So that's what they're calling "cruising" these days?


Gravatarwatertiger!!!!!!!!!




[waves and gesticulates]


GravatarI need to find the dobson quote from the other day...back in a few...


Gravatar"without a doubt that he'd engaged in "sexually immoral conduct.""

I wonder what their limits are. Must be nuanced somehow that I cannot perceive.


Gravatarwe need a party that runs entirely on a pro-sexually immoral behavior platfrom.


Gravatar* His parishioners say Haggard resurrected a dead person.

There is a legend that says that once when a young boy had died they asked St. Bernard of Clerveaux to resurrect him. They say the St. prayed over him and laid down on top of him. But the boy didn't come back to life.

One wag said that it was the first time a monk lay down on a boy and the boy didn't rise up.


GravatarHe was just helping that gay prostitute over the fence.

Sure, mock all you want. Here's what really happened:

But while Control had been beaten, it wasn't destroyed. Its sex-demon-possessed members bided their time, waiting for an opportunity to strike back. That opportunity offered itself up one night a few years ago when Pastor Ted made a call to an escort service requesting that they send a manwhore to his hotel room to give him a massage.

That was it. That was all Pastor Ted asked of the manwhore--just an innocent massage. Sure, perhaps the manwhore's little soldier may have accidentally found its way into Pastor Ted's bunker complex and conducted a bit of reconnaissance, but those things happen when a man gets a massage. There's nothing homosexual about it. Even if you do it every few weeks with the same manwhore over a period of a couple of years.

The same goes for the methampetamine. When a guy goes to a city the size of Denver, he wants to experience everything the city has to offer: the food, the cultural attractions, the nightlife, the thrill of scoring hard drugs, the rush of stabbing and robbing a drunk guy in a dark alley--things like that. It doesn't make him a bad guy, just a tourist.


Gravatar* He laid siege to homosexual bars and federal buildings by praying in front of them and rebuking the demons within them.

Homosexual bars and federal buildings?

Eats shoots and leaves.


Gravatarsimels my man!!!!!
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Gravatar"we need a party that runs entirely on a pro-sexually immoral behavior platfrom.
garth"

GOP?


GravatarLube stains on the bible, I'm guessing....

The Book of Job?


Gravatarhere it is:

http://releases.usnewswire.com/G...se.asp? id=75600

COLORADO SPRINGS. Nov. 2 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Focus on the Family founder and Chairman James C. Dobson, Ph.D., issued the following statement today addressing an allegation by a male prostitute in Denver that Ted Haggard was one of his clients:

"It is unconscionable that the legitimate news media would report a rumor like this based on nothing but one man's accusation. Ted Haggard is a friend of mine and it appears someone is trying to damage his reputation as a way of influencing the outcome of Tuesday's election -- especially the vote on Colorado's marriage-protection amendment -- which Ted strongly supports.

"He has shown a great deal of grace under these unfortunate circumstances, quickly turning this matter over to his church for an independent investigation. That is a testament to the character I have seen him exhibit over and over again through the years."


Maybe someone should be asking Dr. Shower With Your Sons exactly how good a "friend" he is to Pastor Ted?


GravatarSo that's what they're calling "cruising" these days?

So Cruise-i-fixion?


Gravatarmuch as I'm enjoying the schadenfreude (jeebus, we need some new Germanic descriptors), Dan Savage pointed out something that should at least temper that, for us.

his KIDS were in the car when he "confessed" to that reporter. and that, almost more than anything else, should point out where this fucked up GOP hypocrisy leads...to damaged human beings.


Gravatar"I have sinned....."


GravatarThe New Life Church is going to conduct a serious probe into this matter.


Gravatar* One Haggard follower would take a garden sprayer filled with blessed water and spray it onto sinful intersections.

Oh, for fuck's sake.
Eli


May I take this opportunity to thank my parents for moving us the fuck out of this town when I was a teenager?


GravatarI look at these fundies who prowl around "sinful" places and see similarities with vice cops who end up practicing the same vices they're supposed to investigate and eliminate.


GravatarWhen informed of the decision of the church elders, Pastor Haggard asked, 'Does it mean that I can no longer participate in the Monday morning telecons with the White House?'


GravatarOn the present topic I am not the least surprised about Haggard. His ealier stories just did not make sense. I wonder if this Jones guy was the first or if we will hear about others in his past. How the hell can anyone still think that demonizing gays so that some of them stay in the closet and end up in situations like this is a good thing.


GravatarWhat is the biggest lie by Evangelist leaders?

I was just helping the sheep over the fence.


Gravatarhis KIDS were in the car when he "confessed" to that reporter.

I said something about that last night to Mr. TJ when we watched the video. That was fucked up.


GravatarSpeaking of Republican hypocrites:

Let's all ask the fine folks at the StarTribune and the Pioneer Press (and WCCO, KSTP and KARE) why they aren't doing any stories on the role of local Republican bloggers PowerLine and Captain's Quarters in spreading around atom-bomb secrets merely to score cheap political points.

opinion AT startribune DOT com
letters AT pioneerpress DOT com


GravatarUNE_KaiserShrillhelm™

You've gone all Aryan on me!!!!


GravatarBut...but.. the accuser failed the lie detector.

/whiny


GravatarIf Haggard the Horrible was working against "Control," dows that mean he was working *for* KAOS?

http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/kaos.html


Gravatarsorry...

"damaged INNOCENT human beings."


GravatarSure, perhaps the manwhore's little soldier may have accidentally found its way into Pastor Ted's bunker complex and conducted a bit of reconnaissance, but those things happen when a man gets a massage.



I salute you!


GravatarNew gay porno movie to be released on Monday -

"The Dicks of Haggard"


GravatarNew gay porno movie to be released on Monday -

"The Dicks of Haggard"


GravatarIt was Haggard's fault that he dragged his wife and children into this, not anyone else. The far-right use their families this way.


Gravatar* One Haggard follower would take a garden sprayer filled with blessed water and spray it onto sinful intersections.

Oh, for fuck's sake.
Eli


The power of meth compels you.

The power of meth compels you.


Gravatarmuch as I'm enjoying the schadenfreude (jeebus, we need some new Germanic descriptors)

I've been suggesting "Gaydenfreude", but only Avedon listens.


GravatarMaybe someone should be asking Dr. Shower With Your Sons exactly how good a "friend" he is to Pastor Ted?

He can even take his Pastor with him into the shower, where the clergyman cannot help but notice that Dobson has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

Fixed Dobson's typos.


GravatarWhat is the biggest lie by Evangelist leaders?

I was just helping the sheep over the fence.
NTodd, Evil Fuck |"

Crude but worthy


GravatarAha! I was kinda sorta half right in thinking he'd resigned.

Whoever it was who said below that he was just on leave, was right.

But he did resign as head of the NAE.


GravatarReally. These fucks couldn't even handle power for half a decade without fucking it up six ways to Sunday.

Jeebus.


GravatarCure all the cancers, heal all the kidneys, coax as many folks out those chairs and off those crutches that you want, I'll buy it when I see one of you charlatans heal an amputee. TIA


Gravatar"The Dicks of Haggard"

Boss Hogg says SOOOOOOEEEEEY!


GravatarI blame it on his parents. Or his religion. or his drinking. or his inability to admit he was gay in the first place.

I can't imagine what his wife is thinking right now, unless she already knew and stayed for the money. And those five kids...what a mess.


GravatarThe power of meth compels you.

The power of meth compels you.


The Methiah, you mean.


Gravatar* One Haggard follower would take a garden sprayer filled with blessed water and spray it onto sinful intersections.

Better than spraying intersections with blessed oil.


GravatarThe power of meth compels you

He that controls the meth controls the universe.


Gravatar"The Methiah, you mean.
Eli | Homepage"

They call the sin ... Methiah.

Sorry, had to steal that off of you.


Gravatar"blessed water"? Isn't that kind of papist for evangelicals? I'm shocked.


Gravatarwe still need pictures

lots and lots of pictures

i am thinking something along the lines of leather, tu-tu's and, well, you know


GravatarThe Methiah, you mean.
Eli


Nice.


GravatarWaPo's insightful analysis:

"If history is any guide, House Democrats won't enjoy a clean sweep come Tuesday night."

What, no one party has ever won all 435 seats?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/


GravatarBetter than spraying intersections with blessed oil.

Depends. Is it vegetable oil or petroleum?

Is this right room for an argument?


GravatarI can't imagine what his wife is thinking right now, unless she already knew and stayed for the money. And those five kids...what a mess.

WHAT WILL WE TELL THE CHILDREN?


GravatarWhat, no one party has ever won all 435 seats?

News You Can Use from the nice polite GOP whores at the Washington Post.


GravatarA Hindu Guru, while he was pontificating on re-incarnation, was asked: What about these bugs and flies in the rotten fruits in front of you? What were they in their previous lives?
'They were all Gurus and priests and ministers', he calmly replied.


GravatarAfternoon bats

did you guys see the spoof of the GOP ad against Ford. Jr.?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vd_lkdiWjto


Gravatarhis KIDS were in the car when he "confessed" to that reporter. and that, almost more than anything else, should point out where this fucked up GOP hypocrisy leads...to damaged human beings.
Anna Granfors


That's right - that's what this grotesque charade leads to - innocent people are hurt. This is what happens when people aren't allowed to be what they are.

Why are the "moralists" so fucking goddamned stupid that they never get this? How many more millennia? There has always been homosexuality. It's all over the entire "creation" for the love of god. Ducks, birds in general, all kinds of mammals including primates have homosexual sex.

GET OVER IT.


GravatarBetter than spraying intersections with blessed oil.

Depends. Is it vegetable oil or petroleum?


Don't think it much matters. Neither are particularly good for traction.


Gravatar"If history is any guide, House Democrats won't enjoy a clean sweep come Tuesday night."

What, no one party has ever won all 435 seats?


I'm guessing they mean all branches at state and Fed level. Not that it changes the insightfulness in any way...


GravatarWHAT WILL WE TELL THE CHILDREN?
NTodd, Evil Fuck


"You know how Daddy's been playing those "games" with you? Well, he's been paying somebody else to play with him, too."


GravatarI'll bet one person in America who really wishes that gay marriage was legal --- Mrs. Ted Haggard.

Then instead of sitting there in the car with her kids being humiliated as her husband lies about drugs and massages, she could have married some actual heterosexual and not have lived an entire life as an unloved beard for her hypocritical husband.

What kind of jerk leads this hypocritical life and then subjects his wife AND his kids to this kind of exposure -- there was a boy about 12 or 14 sitting there embarrassed behind 'Daddy' as he blathered to the reporter.


GravatarWHAT WILL WE TELL THE CHILDREN?

That Daddy forgot the safe word...


GravatarThe Methiah, you mean.
Eli


oh dear...that's quite a lisp you've got


GravatarWhat, no one party has ever won all 435 seats?

News You Can Use from the nice polite GOP whores at the Washington Post.


Anything less than a clean sweep is a Republican victory, and the Democrats are going to come up *hundreds* of seats short, in what is clearly the biggest electoral failure in American history.


GravatarGen. JC Christian, you are indeed a patriot.


GravatarI can't imagine what his wife is thinking right now, unless she already knew and stayed for the money. And those five kids...what a mess.
mer


those are gonna be some seriously fucked up kids.

imagine spending your whole life listening to dad telling the entire fucking world what eveeel demons teh gay were...only to find out which side he's really on.


GravatarFrom CNN, Haggard has been forced to resign from New Life Church.

Taking It to the Streets: Transforming Communities Through Prayerwalking (Paperback)
by Ted Haggard
http://www.amazon.com/Taking-Str...ie=UTF8& s=books
A new word is appearing in the Christian lexicon: Prayerwalking. The market offers several books on this subject, so why another? Because Pastor Ted Haggard and his congregation have been successfully practicing prayerwalking for quite some time. Taking It To The Streets shares with fellow Christians the helpful information and experiences garnered by this church.

Haggard works better moving, so when he began a prayer ministry he combined action with his prayers, walking and praying through all types of neighborhoods locally, nationally, and internationally. He names this genuine spiritual communion and confrontation `engaging prayer' -- both engaging with the Holy Spirit and challenging demonic powers. Taking It To The Streets combines personal experiences with clear details about prayerwalking such as what it is, its various forms, how to organize it, the energy it generates, blessings arising from the practice, praying with Scripture, and our Christian prayer privilege and responsibility.

This is not a difficult book to read. The actions and people contained in it are motivated totally by the Lord. No extraneous narratives or eye-candy words appear. But don't let its ingenuousness fool you. Coping with its message requires clear thinking about your own beliefs, dedication to the Lord, and humility.

Modern Christianity may have come up with the name "prayerwalking," but I have a hunch that dedicated Christians have been practicing it for centuries. This neat, unassuming little book seeks to help us join our Christian forbearers in introducing the lost to their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. - Donna Eggett, Christian Book Previews.com


GravatarRE: the whole Homosexuality thing?

I've mentioned this before, but I slept with a guy once.

I had to.

I needed a ride.


GravatarThat's right - that's what this grotesque charade leads to - innocent people are hurt

His children have no doubt been living a live of wealth and privilege as a result of his Jesus-peddling charlatanry, so I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call his kids "innocent." Perhaps today is the first day of reality-based life for the little wingnuts; a chance to develop into useful Americans instead of hypocritical hucksters like their father.


GravatarNTodd--I don't know. What will you tell Maddy when Monsieur brings her over in a little while?


GravatarI'm guessing they mean all branches at state and Fed level. Not that it changes the insightfulness in any way...

They *did* say "House Democrats", not just "Democrats".


GravatarFrom CNN, Haggard has been forced to resign from New Life Church

I bet they dunked his head in the toilet while he signed the resignation papers.


GravatarThis is from over at Alterman's page.

Name: Ned Fagan
Hometown: River Falls, Wisconsin
Hello, Eric. I've written to you before, over the years. You once published one of my notes.
Earlier today I got an email message from my college-student daughter who has a high school male friend who was recently shipped to Iraq after serving in Korea. My daughter and he have corresponded since he joined, and he has visited our home while on leave, so we know him.
Here is a paste of her email to me:
"Something I thought you MAY ALSO find slightly interesting...... The army is placing a policy that soilders can't send emails without using their id card as a signature and to do this they have to order a usb device and pay for it themselves. They just got a 9 day warning and after that they won't be able to use their gov. email to SEND email. (At least the soilders in Iraq). Isn't that weird --- disturbing???? Ben just sent out a mass email to everyone in his address book explaining it. Thought I'd pass it on. "


GravatarUnless they meant "House Democrats" as opposed to "Field Democrats", but probably best not to go there...


Gravatar
"If history is any guide, House Democrats won't enjoy a clean sweep come Tuesday night."


"The GOP has achieved a moral victory tonight: while the Democrats have won control of the legistlature, the lamentations of Republicans have not fallen on deaf ears and GOP party members will not be driven into the sea as once feared. This softening only reinforces the GOP message that Democrats are weak on security."


GravatarThey call the sin ... Methiah.


GravatarNo extraneous narratives or eye-candy words

i.e., it's written at the third-grade (aka wingnut) level.


GravatarI've mentioned this before, but I slept with a guy once.

I had to.

I needed a ride.


We're not gay.
But we're willing to learn.


GravatarWhat kind of jerk leads this hypocritical life and then subjects his wife AND his kids to this kind of exposure -- there was a boy about 12 or 14 sitting there embarrassed behind 'Daddy' as he blathered to the reporter.
artemesia


Those kids are all going to learn a lot of things that they would have been better off learning about later. Also, what happens when they go back to school on Monday. The other kids may not understand what is going on, but I bet Haggard's kids are not going to have a good week. Actually, I bet that the whole family disappears from public view within a few days. If I was their mother I would certainly think seriously about it.


GravatarI wonder if he'll hook up with a gay hairdresser like Tammy Fay did after she had to give up her original ministry. What did happen to Tammy Fay?


Gravatar"This softening only reinforces the GOP message that Democrats are weak on security."

I think I hear CNN calling you!


GravatarThe army is placing a policy that soilders can't send emails without using their id card as a signature and to do this they have to order a usb device and pay for it themselves.

Some soldier must have spoken less-than-worshipfully about Dear Leader.


GravatarThe Pursuit of the Good Life (Hardcover)
by Ted Haggard
http://www.amazon.com/Pursuit-Go...ie=UTF8& s=books
Book Description
There are many Christians who want to know how to approach God more effectively. God has made a way for us to meet Him and has created a map for us to follow. Using the tabernacle of Moses, Ted Haggard shows how God has invited us into His presence and given us a road map to becoming competent Christians.
Fascinating tabernacle symbolism in this book includes: ·The two most crucial events in the life of every believer ·Four "basin basics" that every Christian should know ·How to move from believing to becoming a light for Jesus ·Three choices that face all Christians in their journey ·How to use the one key that opens the door to the most holy place ·What changes to expect as you move from the outer court into the holy of holies

Customer Reviews

Cheap and easy route to the good life, November 3, 2006
Reviewer: Murphy's Law "Murph" (CA USA) - See all my reviews
Splendid little book chock full of tips on how to score crystal meth and male prostitutes in pursuit of the good life. Recommended reading for all members of National Association of Evangelicals.


GravatarI've mentioned this before, but I slept with a guy once.

I had to.

I needed a ride.

We're not gay.
But we're willing to learn.
driftglass

"I'm not gay, I'm just cheerful,".


GravatarPrayerwalking is a big thing with him. That's what he called his vists to gay bars, seriously.


Gravatar'Taking It To The Streets shares with fellow Christians the helpful information and experiences garnered by this church. '

This was going to be a good joke, but he methed it up


Gravatar2 morro is sunday after allllllllll....


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.

Explain.


GravatarWhat did happen to Tammy Fay?

She sells rhinestone-spangled bhurkas on al Jazeera eBay.

For Jebus.


GravatarIf Haggard the Horrible was working against "Control," dows that mean he was working *for* KAOS?

http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/kaos.html


"Why, that's the second-biggest schlong I've seen this week, Agent 99!"


Gravatarwww.tammyfaye.com

Tammy Faye Messner is doing motivational speaking, writing books, and currently fighting cancer.


GravatarThe army is placing a policy that soilders can't send emails without using their id card as a signature and to do this they have to order a usb device and pay for it themselves.

Bastards are really getting nervous, aren't they?


GravatarThe Methiah, you mean.
Eli | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:26 pm | #


Stwike him, centuwian. Vewy wuffwy.


GravatarThe Methiah, you mean.
Eli | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:26 pm | #


Stwike him, centuwian. Vewy wuffwy.


GravatarPrayerwalking is a big thing with him. That's what he called his vists to gay bars, seriously.

Y'know, these people are like perps drawn back to the scene of their crimes.


GravatarBut do the Democrats have a plan for teh gay?

No. Which is why they have to get their act together.

/concern troll


GravatarAlso, what happens when they go back to school on Monday.

Bet the little darlings are homeschooled.


Gravatar"sexually immoral conduct."

I guess that means we should start nosing around St. Anne St. and Baton Rouge's Gay Bar for clues about what Haggard was doing here in the early 1980s.

Haggard, Swaggart...most men cry when they can't get laid - these guys only complain when they do ! Proof positive you can't trust Evangelicals - especially those from Baton Rouge.


GravatarThe right thing to do is let him stay and convince all those christians that homosexuals are people too. Though, I do have a problem with the meth.


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.

Explain.


That's what a lot of the local VFW chapters want to know. She was never even sent a questionnaire.


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.

Explain.


The head guy is a big-time wingnut.


There, that was easy.


GravatarFrankly, I don't think Rev. Haggad wants his private life flaunted like so much wide-wale corduroy.


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.

Explain.


The VFW's been drinking way too much Kool-Aid. Too many flag-wrapped types who can't bring themselves to criticize the President, even if he's a draft-dodging moron who's sending our troops on a fool's errand.


GravatarTammy Faye Messner is doing motivational speaking, writing books, and currently fighting cancer.
Dr. Wu

Sorry to hear about the cancer, but what's she motivating people to do?


Gravatar'What did happen to Tammy Fay?
olvlzl '

Resurrection hopefully not soon?

Pls take a minute and go to CNN; the poll;
Created: Saturday, November 04, 2006, at 12:20:38 EDT
Should CIA interrogation tactics be a state secret?

Yes 49% 14284 votes

No 51% 14614 votes
Total: 28898 votes


GravatarPrayerwalking is a big thing with him. That's what he called his vists to gay bars, seriously.

But when his crew all started to Step-Step-Kick/Step-Step-Kick in unison, some grew suspicious....


GravatarBut do the Democrats have a plan for teh gay?


Karl Rove is a genius!


Boy, wouldn't that be sweet - a direct connection btwn Karl and Pastor Ted.


GravatarSomething in the back of my head tells me the gop implosion isn't close to being over. It's like a cartoon snowball rolling downhill gathering up more and more "victims" before it hits the wall Nov. 7.


GravatarBut do the Democrats have a plan for teh gay?

No. Which is why they have to get their act together.


The Republicans seem to be against withdrawal...


Gravatar". . . the kids were in the car."
They may not appreciate it now, but his is the best change those youngsters have of leading a normal life and not one as twisted and fucked as the old man's.


Gravatar·How to use the one key that opens the door to the most holy place

Bet he learned that in denver...


GravatarHarsh. I suppose the Christian forgiveness comes later.


GravatarTena - word.


GravatarThe army is placing a policy that soilders can't send emails without using their id card as a signature and to do this they have to order a usb device and pay for it themselves.

Some soldier must have spoken less-than-worshipfully about Dear Leader.
Dr. Wu


And how are they going to be kept quiet after they are back in the US. They might be able to control the regular Army, although I doubt it, but the Guard and Reserves are certainly going to speak out if they want.


GravatarBut when his crew all started to Step-Step-Kick/Step-Step-Kick in unison, some grew suspicious....

I'll never execute a "ball change" the same way again.


GravatarHis = this


GravatarWhat kind of jerk leads this hypocritical life and then subjects his wife AND his kids to this kind of exposure -- there was a boy about 12 or 14 sitting there embarrassed behind 'Daddy' as he blathered to the reporter

A self-hating person who decided to mask himself behind a facade of what he thought he really should be, I think, and then once he got a taste of the power that came with his self-hatred, he couldn't see that eventually his house of cards would fall in, and he would be left a ruined, broken person. All because he couldn't accept who he really was. Do I feel sorry for him? Nope. His kids? You bet. His Wife? I don't know how much she knew about the whole situation, so I'll not comment on her.
But a sanctimonious hypocrite deserves no pity in my eyes. Just my opinion.


GravatarOddly, I never married.


GravatarThe Republicans seem to be against withdrawal...
Eli

Cut and run.


GravatarWhat an utterly unexpected surprise!
.


GravatarI'll never execute a "ball change" the same way again.

I'm hoping I never need one at all...


GravatarBut when his crew all started to Step-Step-Kick/Step-Step-Kick in unison, some grew suspicious....
driftglass


And when he hired a male choreographer, the jig was up.


GravatarNothing left for Haggard but to rock.

Enjoy.

http://tinyurl.com/yxvoz6


GravatarCut and run.

You left out the 8 inches.


GravatarI'm guessing the fundie line will be that he spent so much time around teh gay, he was recruited.

Like teh gay would waste a draft pick on that fuckwit.


GravatarBut when his crew all started to Step-Step-Kick/Step-Step-Kick in unison, some grew suspicious....
driftglass | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:37 pm | #

he was, a time ago, one, singular sensation...


GravatarI'll never execute a "ball change" the same way again.

The Steeler's problem has been "ball security"


Gravatar·How to use the one key that opens the door to the most holy place

"Are you the Gatekeeper?"


GravatarThe Republicans seem to be against withdrawal...
Eli

Cut and run.


That's 8"-Cut and run...


GravatarYou left out the 8 inches.
Eli

Well, I've always been a big promoter of frottage as safer sex.


GravatarY'know, these people are like perps drawn back to the scene of their crimes.
watertiger


The more homophobic the schtick, the more they want dick.


GravatarDamn your fast hands, Eli!


Gravatarsimels, I saw an absolutely gorgeous armoire at that re-sale store today. You have excellent taste in where to shop.


GravatarPreacher Haggard was against withdrawal too.


GravatarLike teh gay would waste a draft pick on that fuckwit.
underwhelm




GravatarDamn your fast hands, Eli!

That's not what you said last night...


Gravatarhis KIDS were in the car when he "confessed" to that reporter. and that, almost more than anything else, should point out where this fucked up GOP hypocrisy leads...to damaged human beings.

So what are you saying? If people have kids we should back up from exposing their hypocritical behavior? Maybe this guy should have thought of his kids before cheating on his wife with behavior he publicly demonizes.

Guy was probably dragging his kids around in the hope he could exploit their presence to shut people up.


GravatarBut when his crew all started to Step-Step-Kick/Step-Step-Kick in unison, some grew suspicious....
driftglass | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:37 pm | #

he was, a time ago, one, singular sensation...
Hellkitty


...and all that jazz!


GravatarI'll never execute a "ball change" the same way again.



GravatarWell, I've always been a big promoter of frottage as safer sex.

So... you're the big frottage cheese?


GravatarPrayerwalking is a big thing with him. That's what he called his vists to gay bars, seriously.

Well its not like he was prayerskipping. That would be really upsetting.


GravatarThe more homophobic the schtick, the more they want dick.
Dr. Wu


Johnny Cochran would be proud


GravatarHis children have no doubt been living a live of wealth and privilege as a result of his Jesus-peddling charlatanry, so I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call his kids "innocent."

I'm sorry - I don't believe putting the sins of the fathers on the heads of the children. It's absurd to hold them responsible for something they have absolutely no control over.


GravatarPreacher Haggard was against withdrawal too.
Gomez

I'll bet he made lots of deposits.


Gravatar'The Republicans seem to be against withdrawal...
Eli '

There's something onanerous about it.


GravatarSo... you're the big frottage cheese?
Eli

No, I'm cut.


GravatarI just love it when the admissions and details come out in a protracted way like this! It keeps everything going longer that way, and it underlines pointedly what a lying sack of shit this guy is. If he just fessed up fully from the git-go, it would make the whole "hapless victim of Teh Gey" story play a lot better. But Haggard is doing this just right for us.


GravatarThere's something onanerous about it.

It's downright barbaric.


GravatarAnd how are they going to be kept quiet after they are back in the US.

Well, the Chimpster and Congress has been cutting V.A. funding. Uppity veterans might find themselves last on the list. If I were an amoral, sociopathic, unamerican little fuck like Chimpy and Cheney, that's what I'd do, anyway.


GravatarOkay, apparently I have to get caught doing meth with a male prostitute before anybody will acknowledge I'm here tonight?


GravatarNo, I'm cut.

You're the big cuttage cheese?


GravatarRepublicans just can't get a break. Now, to add to a weekend of historic pre-election grief, Saddam's lawyers have asked that announcement of his sentence be delayed---with one of the reasons having to be that Bush not benefit from its timing.


GravatarOh the other hand: Doogie Howser is gay and proud

"(I) am quite proud to say that I am a very content gay man living my life to the fullest," Harris tells People magazine's Web site.


GravatarPreacher Haggard was against withdrawal too.
Gomez

I'll bet he made lots of deposits.
olvlzl


Do you know if he was a top or a bottom?


GravatarHow to become a "competent" Christian? What a load that is.

I'm trying very hard to be charitable towards Mr. Haggard and his family, but I admit that I'm failing.

I must not be a competent Christian.


GravatarI just love it when the admissions and details come out in a protracted way like this! It keeps everything going longer that way, and it underlines pointedly what a lying sack of shit this guy is. If he just fessed up fully from the git-go, it would make the whole "hapless victim of Teh Gey" story play a lot better. But Haggard is doing this just right for us.

If only he was running for Senate...


Gravatar"Sexually immoral behavior"

Exactly what is that?

I need to know if I've ever engaged in it.


GravatarIs Sarah Deere about? I was just about to step outside for a smoke. Care to join me?


GravatarWhat I really liked about "The Confession in the Car" was that his EXCUSE was that he called the guy to buy meth.

I mean, really. The worst God damned drug in the universe, and he'd rather admit that he was buying meth than getting his ashes hauled by a guy.

METH!! This is not a drug you decide to try just cuz you heard it was fun.

How could a good clean preacher man be tempted to use meth???


GravatarI withdraw, Eli.

Got to go back to my glorious work, stapling signs together. I've got two-hundred more to do tonight.

Have a good evening, friends.


Gravatarthe replacement is Ross Parsley

wonder if he's related to Ken Blackwell's BFF Rod Parsley?

also wonder how much they got in "faith based initiative" money and if any of that will be returned. ditto on the black ministers in VA who just came out in favour of "Macacawitz" Allen


Gravatarsteve!

How are you, you crazy bastard!


Gravatar"Sexually immoral behavior"

Exactly what is that?

I need to know if I've ever engaged in it.


If you need to ask ...


GravatarAnother customer review for
The Pursuit of the Good Life (Hardcover) ...

Excellent! Pastor Haggard has helped me find the good life., November 3, 2006
Reviewer: Brother Russell (Dallas, TX United States) - See all my reviews
This book is full of the heartwarming wit, wisdom and guidance of the power and influential Pastor Ted Haggard, who has a standing weekly conference call with President Bush but has not let fame and power go to his head. I am enjoying this book immensely (I am about three-quarters of the way through it.. I only got to read parts of it once a month or so, in motel rooms, when I go of town on "business") Pastor Ted will help show you how to pursue, find and live the good life, alone or with a special secret friend, if necessary. He has been living the good life for at least the past three years, and I consider him a role model after getting into this awesome book. The power of Christ can come onto your life if you will just bare yourself completely to His love, as Rev. Haggard shows you in this book. Even if it is a little painful at first, the Lord will smooth the way and each time it gets a little less painful as you expand and grow in his love. thanks, Pastor Haggard, I needed that.


GravatarWow, the church statement is pretty damned coldblooded. Nice bunch of "Christians."


GravatarI must not be a competent Christian.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


You need to learn to love the sin and hate the sinner.


GravatarPastor Teds's impersonation of Tony Montana -

"Say hello to my little friend!"


GravatarExactly what is that?

I need to know if I've ever engaged in it.

If you need to ask ...


I'm thinking maybe I could hire a "ref".

"How about now? Okay... now? What about this here?"


GravatarGeez, I go to the grocery store, fend off my Avon-selling neighbor, and Haggerty's church admits it was more than a massage? That' something.


GravatarSaddam's lawyers have asked that announcement of his sentence be delayed---with one of the reasons having to be that Bush not benefit from its timing.

I'm sure the Judge will deny that motion, given how much everybody in Iraq just loves the Chimpster.


GravatarGod. Please let the next closeted gay be Santorum. Pleeese.


GravatarLike teh gay would waste a draft pick on that fuckwit.



GravatarThere's a press release on the Church website:

http://www.newlifechurch.org/ pre...lease110606.pdf

Says a letter of explanation and apology is going to be read aloud in church tomorrow.

This should be good.


Gravatarstencil--in re: best chance for his kids--god, I hope so. something tells me the poor things never had a chance when being born into a family like that.

sister of ye--all I'm sayin's that I'm sorry they had to deal with something as fucked up as that. of course hypocritical behavior needs to be exposed; indeed, it's the only way we'll get through all of this.


GravatarSo, can Haggard own up to what he is, admit his view of Christianity was limited, start a bi-curious ministry and work to undo the harm he's done?


GravatarGod. Please let the next closeted gay be Santorum. Pleeese.

Grover Norquist gets my vote


GravatarWhat will you tell Maddy when Monsieur brings her over in a little while?

Vacuum!


GravatarNothing left for Haggard but to rock.

Enjoy.

http://tinyurl.com/yxvoz6
Unrepentant Fenian |

stuff like this is why I can never follow a thread. I keep getting sidetracked....(nicely sidetracked, but, still...)


GravatarSays a letter of explanation and apology is going to be read aloud in church tomorrow.

This should be good.


In front of the CHILDREN?


GravatarGod. Please let the next closeted gay be Santorum. Pleeese.
Gomez


Nah. Santorum is already toast. How about Joe Loserman?


Gravatar'It's downright barbaric.
Eli '

leave the little elephants out of it.


Gravataralso wonder how much they got in "faith based initiative" money and if any of that will be returned. ditto on the black ministers in VA who just came out in favour of "Macacawitz" Allen

So important, it needed to be said twice.


GravatarIs any media outlet going to observe that this SOB flat-out lied over and over again about his activities? Remember what happened to a President who lied about sex? The humiliation of it was not enough then.

I'm totally disgusted by this hypocrisy.

Also, major right wing preachers, unless you are total scumbags, you will weigh in on this incident and how it impacts your holy scam. Of course, you won't, precisely because you are total scumbags.


GravatarYeah, I noticed the kids in the car too. You *know* the missus threw Rev. Creepy out that night -- and called the most pit-bullish divorce lawyer in the state as soon as the door quit reverberating from the mighty slam she slammed in his protesting face.


GravatarIt's downright barbaric.

Onan, what is best in life?

Onan: To crush teh gay, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of your wife when she finds out you like to get cranked and play miter-the-bishop with gay hookers.


GravatarHow are you, you crazy bastard!
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:46 pm | #


I'm okay, kiddo.

You too, I hope...


GravatarI took the liberty of fixing a few typos in that review:

Another customer review for
The Pursuit of the Good Shit(Hardcover) ...


Pastor Ted will help show you how to pursue, find and live the good shit, alone or with a special secret friend, if necessary. He has been smoking the good shit for at least the past three years, and I consider him a role model after getting into this awesome book. The power of meth can come onto your life if you will just bare yourself completely to its love, as Rev. Haggard shows you in this book.


GravatarGod. Please let the next closeted gay be Santorum. Pleeese.

Grover Norquist gets my vote


Aw, you freakin pikers.


Commander Codpiece.


GravatarGod. Please let the next closeted gay be Santorum. Pleeese.

Grover Norquist gets my vote


Aw, you freakin pikers.


Commander Codpiece.


GravatarRepublicans just can't get a break. Now, to add to a weekend of historic pre-election grief, Saddam's lawyers have asked that announcement of his sentence be delayed---with one of the reasons having to be that Bush not benefit from its timing.
Boake Carter

Actually I think it's also some of the judges that are expressing their concerns about an early ruling.


GravatarI wonder how Haggard scored on the Classic Purity Test.


GravatarBrad R. at Sadly No! has taken up the gauntlet I see. Let the Youtube mayhem commence.....I don't have a link to anything egregious; I'd just get my sorry ass kicked in a contest like this anyway.


GravatarYou know, I'd love to have heard Haggard's explanation to his Church board. I bet he tried to bullshit them as much as he's been bullshitting the public. Apparently it didn't work.


GravatarHow are you, you crazy bastard!
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:46 pm | #

I'm okay, kiddo.

You too, I hope...

steve "clay aiken gay" simels


I'm gonna be okay. Docs say I ain't gonna die. Well, not yet. I'm doin' fine.

I've missed you and your pithy posts.


GravatarHere's the text, if you don't want to click on a pdf link:

We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard. Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct.

The language of our church bylaws state that as Overseers we must decide in cases where the Senior Pastor has "demonstrated immoral conduct" whether we must "remove the pastor from his position or to discipline him in any way they deem necessary."

In consultation
with leading evangelicals and experts familiar with the type of behavior Pastor Haggard has demonstrated, we have decided that the most positive and productive direction for our church is his dismissal and removal. In addition, the Overseers will continue to explore the depth of Pastor Haggard's offense so that a plan of healing and restoration can begin.

Pastor Haggard and his wife have been informed of this decision. They have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a new pastor for New Life Church should be selected according to the rules of replacement in the bylaws.

That process will begin immediately in hopes that a new pastor can be confirmed by the end of the year 2006. In the interim, Ross Parsley will function as the leader of the church with full support of the Overseers.

A letter of explanation and apology by Pastor Haggard as well as a word of encouragement from Gayle Haggard will be read in the 9:00 and 11:00 service of New Life Church.


GravatarCommander Codpiece.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


He said closeted.


GravatarLonely Hearts sheets.


GravatarYou know, I'd love to have heard Haggard's explanation to his Church board.

He tried to blame it on Satan.

Didn't work. Satan's on the Board.


GravatarQuit boo-hooing for the innocent wife and kids and start boo-hooing for the people he damaged that did not have the ability to tell him to STFU.

Personally, as a gay person, I am sorry for them, but yet glad that the pain he helped inflict on others has come home to roost. Because he wasnt there to comfort me, my friends, or my family when I kept trying to kill myself as a youngster with little understanding of why I felt that way.


Gravatarhellkitty..I'd be pleased to join you


GravatarCommander Codpiece.
Hecate


No - the ultimate: Commander Codpiece, Gov. Goodhair and der Rovester videotaped in a 3 way.

Yeah, baby!


GravatarI'm gonna be okay. Docs say I ain't gonna die. Well, not yet. I'm doin' fine.

I've missed you and your pithy posts.
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 11.04.06 - 5:52 pm | #


I continue to light numerous candles in your general direction.


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.

Explain.


that VFW endorsement stinks of bribery.


GravatarThe army is placing a policy that soilders can't send emails without using their id card as a signature and to do this they have to order a usb device and pay for it themselves.

And which one of Bush's relatives or cronies are major stockholders in the company that makes the USB dongle the soldiers are required to buy?


GravatarNo - the ultimate: Commander Codpiece, Gov. Goodhair and der Rovester videotaped in a 3 way.

Yeah, baby!
Tena


Oh, if there is a Gawd! I think it's just a matter of time.

We still don't know how and why Jimmy Jeff got access to the WH press room.


GravatarPastor Ted's battle against a shadowy group of demon-possessed evil doers that he calls "Control."

Pastor Ted is a KAOS agent?


GravatarShouldn't we call Powerline and Captain Eds blogs "TheRosenburgs.com"?


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.

Explain.


knowing one VFW post that was looking for new recruits - GOP infestation most likely.


GravatarTed, we hardly knew ye!


GravatarFrom CNN, Haggard has been forced to resign from New Life Church. Church board said they've concluded without a doubt that he'd engaged in "sexually immoral conduct."

the board then resumed their orgy.


GravatarPastor Ted is a KAOS agent?

I think he's Siegfried's flunky...


GravatarWe still don't know how and why Jimmy Jeff got access to the WH press room.
Shaw Kenawe


there must be one secret service agent holding evidence who is still a patriot.


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.



Same reason those assholes sided with Bush over Kerry.

Too many drugs in 'Nam - too much drinky poo at the VFW posts.


GravatarHere's the skinny: Haggard's church throws him under the bus!


GravatarTammy Duckworth lost both legs in Iraq. Her opponent never served. The VFW endorsed him.

Explain.


The obvious explanation is too awful to contemplate.


GravatarThe louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.

Ralph Waldo Emerson

(In days of yore silverware, think silver, was a store of wealth)


GravatarThe answer to Duckworth and the VFW is easy. Shes a Democrat. These fuckers are like cult members. There is no logic involved.


GravatarMostly I am thinking how sorry I feel for him. I have a feeling he is going to shoot himself in the head.


GravatarNew Life Church members were seen gathering firewood and erecting a stake in front of the World Prayer Center for the public execution to be held at the conclusion of tomorrow's 10:00 service.


GravatarThe reason the neocons turn the other cheek to Foley and Haggert is because they relate to them so well.
Concubines+Confederate+Conman+Meth= Modern Republicans.
The definition of the modern Republican is a Gay Evangelical Methhead Pedophile that will try to scare you into voting for them.
I'm sorry but I'd rather go to hell than live in what a neocon thinks is heaven.


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