I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
whoa
BOOYAH!!!!!
Blort
This "mess" will last for decades.
I'll be right back.
Damn you mer!
Bush broke it, but as Colbert pointed out, the Dems own it.
There is no solution. There is worst and worster.
Time to accept that and deal with it.
We need to withdraw our troops. Then, after the violence subsides, we need to step up, admit that we caused most of the mess, and do our best to help the Iraqis get back on their feet. It's only the right thing to do.
Perhaps part of our annual largesse to Israel could be diverted....
Time to rescind the AUMF.
What can the Democrats do? The foreign policy is still for the president to run. I guess they can make it harder for Bush to expand the war and easier to cut it back.
It just keeps getting better and better!! (Yes I saw it earlier but it's worth ... savoring ..rereading)
President Bush’s job approval rating has fallen to just 31 percent, according to the new NEWSWEEK Poll. Bill Clinton’s lowest rating during his presidency was 36 percent; Bush’s father’s was 29 percent, and Ronald Reagan’s was 35 percent. Jimmy Carter’s and Richard Nixon’s lows were 28 and 23 percent, respectively. (Just 24 approve of outgoing Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s job performance; and 31 percent approve of Vice President Dick Cheney’s.)
Of course. Just because we have belatedly stopped the flow of gasoline does not mean that the fire will now magically go out.
A lot of Democrats seem to think that this very thorny problem will, conveniently, just kind of go away without them needing to do anything about it.
Like who? Can you name a Democrat who thinks this?
Maybe Saddam's punishment should be to become Iraq's leader again.
Don't know how that mess is going to get cleaned up. 
Some Democrats say...
Start
withdrawing
troops
now
there
are
lots
of
'em
it
will
take
awhile.
that secret plan
bomb syria
striaght out of kissinger
anyways gonna watch Strictly Come Dancing catch you all later moonbats 
"..after the violence subsides, we need to step up, admit that we caused most of the mess, and do our best to help the Iraqis get back on their feet. It's only the right thing to do."
--terry in AZ
The violence will not subside whether we stay or leave. I would have to say we caused the whole mess.
Iraq probably needs another strong-armed leader, but since there is no military for enforcement, it probably doesn't matter.
Good afternoon, Moonbats!
Hopefully, some of the newly-elected Democrats do get this; I think my new Senator Jim Webb does.
Like Evan Bayh who in June said:
alling it “the biggest political and military blunder of my lifetime,” Sturgeon said to Bayh, “I’d like you to explain your vote on the war and why you gave the president a blank check to get us into this disaster.”
Bayh calmly answered that “I wouldn’t cast the same vote today as I did then.” He noted that “the French believed that (there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq), the Germans believed that, the Russians believed that, everybody believed he [Saddam Hussein] had weapons of mass destruction.”
Bayh said if the Iraqi factions “get their political act together — and we will know this in the next six to eight weeks… if they can form a government… then there’s something to work with there.” If not, then “we’re out.”
And then in July his spokesperson said:
Does Bayh think we need to leave Iraq? Yes. Does he think the Iraqis have gotten their political act together? no. Does he think the Bush Administration has a plan to help the Iraqis do that? Absolutely Not. Does he support adopting a flexible timeline for leaving (like Levin-Reed)? Yes. He does, however, oppose a date-specific withdrawal and he opposes a policy of staying the course indefinitely.
Senator Bayh believes that the question is not whether we should be out, but how we should get out. He agrees that we need to leave, he just think we need a plan to leave as Iraq stable as possible, because that is in our national security interest.
since then?
not so much
streams valleys hills the great beyond beyond the far horizon lies your dhim looserness inverness a coat a coatmundi mundel lowe and the jazz warriors warren buffett parrotheads the dead the doozers the dozens the kissin cousins flah flep flooey.
I could go on, but you get my point. you dhims are dhoomed.
Feel that Bush Bounce!
We need to withdraw our troops. Then, after the violence subsides, we need to step up, admit that we caused most of the mess, and do our best to help the Iraqis get back on their feet. It's only the right thing to do.
It may be that that is the only alternative at this point, but I do not look forward to watching that one play out. Nor do I wish to bear the responsibility of being the one to pull the plug.
I could go on--
Only if it's off a very high bridge.
Strong Link between Military Service and ALS - Study
Oh, and no stem cells for you, soldier.
So sorry, but Baby Jesus wouldn't like it.
Like who? Can you name a Democrat who thinks this?
Joe Liberman
Hillary Clinton
Mary Landrieu
There is no "good" way out of Iraq -- one that will leave everybody with peace, freedom, democracy, and everybody sitting around the campfire singing Cumbaya -- just as there was no "good" way out of Southeast Asia in the Vietnam War. In such circumstances, the best thing to do is just to leave. There will be a deadly, messy decade while the parties involved sort themselves out, just as they did at the end of the Vietnam War, but whether we leave now or two years from now will not make any difference -- the end will still be deadly and messy after we leave. We broke it, but that does not mean that we can fix it. Sometimes you just have to say you're sorry and walk away at shame of what you've done -- and be prepared to help economically and diplomatically if asked. Does anyone really think there's a magic fix to this mess we've made?
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This is the most fucked up part of it all. We screamed and yelled and stomped our feet, but no, they had to have their corporate welfare war. They consequently fucked everything up as we knew would be the case, and now after they have scooped billions in profits on death and hollowed our our nation once again, we are supposed to step in and clean up their mess. This is not the first time this has happened but it most definitely should be the last.
Is Haggard going to "recover" and stage a grand comeback?
So I'm listening to the 10@10 marathon, and they're on 1979.
When you cut out all the "new wave" entries from that year, it really, really sucked.
Iraq probably needs another strong-armed leader, but since there is no military for enforcement, it probably doesn't matter.
And which group has control?
Shia? Sunni?
They're not going to work together.
This is the most fucked up part of it all. We --
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww... a concern troll!
The cutest most bestest trolls of them all!!!
Isn't it almost time for the annual holiday special "The Concern Trolls Meet Santa Claus"?
And where are those pliers???
Bayh
I'd like to dig up birches speaches from the vietnam era
Since I'm not familliar
Strong Link between Military Service and ALS - Study
Oh, and no stem cells for you, soldier.
So sorry, but Baby Jesus wouldn't like it.
What if we make the Xmas tree tinsel out of depleted uranium?
Is Haggard going to "recover" and stage a grand comeback?
glenstein
Bottom half of Foley'08 ticket.
This McCain person is so far out of the mainstream that he can't even see the shore.
Isn't it almost time for the annual holiday special "The Concern Trolls Meet Santa Claus"?
And where are those pliers???
dave©™
I prefer "the Concern trolls Meet Abbot & costello"
No matter what happens, it will be John Kerry's fault...
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Speaking of Christmas, have you stocked up on Christmas cards yet???
getting in was too damn easy...getting out will be like picking out cactus needles after falling into a cactus patch...endlessly painful...get Dr. Dean stat
What's really fucked about all this is that-- unlike Vietnam -- when we leave with our tail between our legs, there really will be humongous disastrous consequences for us.
Thanks to the insane criminal Bush administration.
And I have yet to hear-- from anybody-- a solution that doesn't leave us, for want of a better word, completely fucked.
Am I being overly parnoid here?
Iraq probably needs another strong-armed leader, but since there is no military for enforcement, it probably doesn't matter.
bring back saddam, re-arm the baathists, and let the cheap oil flow!!!
or, as i've long suspected, replace saddam with chalabi, re-arm the baath and let the cheap oil flow...
cuz, ya know, i read somewhere there is actually a bunch MORE unexploited oil out in the western deserts--Sunnistan...
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the concern trolls meet the rockers uptown
Am I being overly parnoid here?
Eventually the world's supply of oil will be exhausted and the importance of this region of the world will decline. Give it a hunnerd years and everything will calm down.
Toons--not being a subscriber to magical thinking, I'd have to say, no.
It's not going to get better for a while.
I've read here and there some ramblings by people who think the election was all a Rovian plot to place the blame for all the shit on the Democrats.
That's insane. I think people understand that it is a terrible mess and I don't think Democrats will get blamed for the mess unless they make it worse.
Let me just say this: Biden's plan sucks. Dividing Iraq up ourselves is ridiculous. If the Iraqis want 3 separate countries, they can do it. We need to just bug out. Now.
Am I being overly parnoid here?
steve simels
no
basically I have started to see the entire debacle as a "lose lose"
Am I being overly parnoid here?
steve simels | 11.11.06 - 1:11 pm
nope...
and thanks to the (unfortunately, apparently somewhat pyrrhic) victory by the Dems this week, the fault, the opprobrium, the Pukes will now be able to shrug off no small amount of responsibility fr all that shit...
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HICA!
Yes, we have no bananas... but we shore do be bringin' tha Curly!
I have soooooooo much awesome news, I don't know where to begin. I'll start by building another blog post, so be patient with me if I don't see your shout-outs here, this afternoon.
Whoo-hoooo! Life is good.
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The Democrats in Congress need to demand a housecleaning of the people in war policy positions in the Bush administration (Wolfowitz, Bolton, Abrams, Rice, et al). That should be the starting point for any conversation between Congress and the White House.
The Democrats had better be careful not to stumble into the trap of taking ownership of the Iraq War. Rove would like nothing better.
Does that mean they are negotiating with terrorists or that they were lying last week?
res ipsa loquitur | 11.11.06 - 12:58 pm |
The first letter writer sounded like a WATB: don't pander to your liberal wing, and negotiate with 'moderate' republicans. Or else...
I think one way forward would be to offer Bush and cronies full immunity, and a lot of cash, to step away from the desk.
Then, the next President revokes all those promises, confiscates the cash and jails them.
Because, hey, it's war time, and the President has unlimited powers, right?
whew
my natural cynicism fits right in here
Bush aside from all the incomptency issues treated Iraq as though he was the Queen of England and it was just another colony
Vuce Roy Jerry implemented the beginning of the end as he dismanteled the infrastucture of the country
If the Iraqis want 3 separate countries, they can do it.
That's a BIG 10-4. Iraq wants to be three separate countries cf. Yugoslavia. Let's do it and get out. Not necessarily in that order, either.
It looks like dith is C&Ping his spam for us.
No matter what happens, it will be John Kerry's fault...
John Kerry is the new Bill Clinton?
This mess is such a disaster that no one is going to be able to clean it up easily.
The whole country should just get used to the idea that we've been fucked, very expensively.
f the Iraqis want 3 separate countries, they can do it.
That's a BIG 10-4. Iraq wants to be three separate countries cf. Yugoslavia. Let's do it and get out. Not necessarily in that order, either.
Lester Burnham, now dead
No, I said they can do it. You say - "let's do it and leave." I say bullshit - let them do what they want to do - it's their fucking country. We fucked it - we ought to give them the means to restore some infrastructure that we wrecked and get the fuck out of there.
Restore Saddam to power and extradite all American and UK war criminals to Iraq for trial.
David Cronenberg should direct a flick called Concern Troll Meets Bloody End In Paper Shredder.
Why don't the republicans just blame the treaty of versaille?
Jeffraham--sorry I was so out of it when you called last night. I really was heading for Snoozeville.
I'm enjoying the Bounty of Curly!
John Kerry is the new Bill Clinton?
Apparently so. What's funny (and not in a good way) is the plans I'm hearing for Iraq, redeploy, etc. sound suspiciously like Kerry's plan from a few month ago.
Concern Troll
from the director of Leprechaun
This is not the first time this has happened but it most definitely should be the last.
USA | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:08 pm | #
And it will be, once everybody --- and by everybody, I mean you guys -- admits that the major force in world events was, is, and remains the satiny sheen of my nutsac.
Stop prolonging (heh -- he said prolonging) the inevitable, loosers.
So far, Dave Edmunds' "Girl Talk" is the closest thing to do a decent song in 1979.
Tied for worst of set: "Jane" by the "Starship," "Heartache Tonight" by the Eagles, and "Don't Bring Me Down" by ELO.
The plan linked below has more chance of success that anything James Baker comes up with.
Assimilated Press
Read Finally A Plan: Rumsfeld To Lead Insurgents In Iraq
Possible Iraq outcomes
1] We stay. Lots of people continue to get killed. Lots of money gets wasted.
2] We get out.
2a] The Iraqis somehow manage to realize that they have to decide to quit killing each other and then throw out Al Quaeda and other outside meddlers and then actually put some sort of democracy together. This outcome has a probability of much less than one percen.
2b] Iran moves in an imposes control. They then realize that they have just replaced the US. Low probability
2c] After an extended period of fighting a new dictator emerges. May be two or three dictators before manages to stay alive. This is the most likely outcome. A version of this would be for the country to split into 2 or 3 parts. Each would be controlled by a dictator except for the Kurds who might manage to put together some kind of democracy.
And it will be, once everybody --- and by everybody, I mean you g--
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Why don't the republicans just blame the treaty of versaille?
I blame the Treaty of Paris.
how about peace with honor?
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
You're not the only one, sweetheart -- as I said, I was hoping that talking to someone on the phone would help me tune out the crazy assholes, and/or diminish their attention on me at the landport (that worked, btw). I thought, "hey, she's online, and it's not even 10p in the west, so..."
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USA | 11.11.06 - 1:19 pm | #
This was not my post.
Isn't it almost time for the annual holiday special "The Concern Trolls Meet Santa Claus"? And where are those pliers??? dave©™
The troll-baiting I can overlook. But making me think of Pia Zadora borders on inexcusable.
I'm happy to say that "the mess" may be cleared up quicker than you think: Harry Reid's already said that the first order of business is to restore oversight to the whole Iraq disaster. They'll be whittling away at it with their committees, finding instance upon instance of BushCo malfeasance, and use these instances as a pretext to defund the war -- which is exactly how the Democratic Congress forced Nixon to bring the troops home from Vietnam.
Concern Troll
from the director of Leprechaun
Will he bring Jennifer Aniston back (with her post-Leprechaun nose)?
What can the Democrats do? The foreign policy is still for the president to run.
That's the point that needs to be rammed up the pundit's collective asses. The dems can certainly make suggestions, and try to influence the process, but Chimpy is still "The Decider".
4Legs--Maxx looks healthy and beautiful and I feel much safer with him protecting us from the Alien Carrot of Doom.
we ought to give them the means to restore some infrastructure that we wrecked and get the fuck out of there.
I think we agree on this.
One thing that was said since Tuesday and I'm trying to recall if it was Chuck Schumer last night on Real Time, but whoever it was said the Democrats planned to pull almost all our troops out. They've been there too long, on too many rotations and they are exhausted, frustrated and making things worse for everyone.
He was talking about leaving enough military to secure the borders and finish training the Iraqis. I say - bring them all home.
31%
The only mandate the incompetent cowboy can look forward to these days is with JimmyJeff.
And JimmyJeff don't bottom for Bush no more!
And you can tell it was not my post because it does not have wayne madsens url attached to it. So fuck off troll.
In the long run, it's cheaper just to give the Iraqis a bunch of money and run.
In my opinion, anyway.
Musically, 1979, from the perspective of popular music, was a fucking wasteland...
Newsweek explains its poll
why this is all good for Republicans
Newsweek has proven itself to be a house organ for the GOP
David Cronenberg should direct a flick called Concern Troll Meets Bloody End In Paper Shredder. NT'odd
I am not interested in the subculture that likes to fuck bloody shredded trolls, but if Roseanna Arquette is involved I'll watch it anyway.
Surest sign that Poodle Boy Blair is done: Howard Dean's been hired by Labour to get them sorted before the Welsh and Scottish local elections next May!
The Doctor Makes House Calls!
In the long run, it's cheaper just to give the Iraqis a bunch of money and run.
In my opinion, anyway.
Unfortunately, if we do that, it will end up where the first batch went, in some crook's swiss bank account.
I was talking to an attorney who was in the Air Force and has a son there now. His assessment. We are fucked. There is nothing we can do to make it better but we probably can make it worse.
Will he bring Jennifer Aniston back (with her post-Leprechaun nose)?
NT'odd (aka Usul)
of course
got to have casting symmetry
also
"a nightmare on concern troll street"
So far, Dave Edmunds' "Girl Talk" is the closest thing to do a decent song in 1979.
Tied for worst of set: "Jane" by the "Starship," "Heartache Tonight" by the Eagles, and "Don't Bring Me Down" by ELO.
dave©™ | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:19 pm | #
Good lord, man, what are you doing?
HICA!
Yes, we have no bananas... but we shore do be bringin' tha Curly!
I have soooooooo much awesome news, I don't know where to begin. I'll start by building another blog post, so be patient with me if I don't see your shout-outs here, this afternoon.
Whoo-hoooo! Life is good.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:14 pm | #
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im so elated about your good news...email me i might be paying a visit to nash veghas
One by one, these stiched together countries - Yugoslavia, Czechoslavakia, USSR, will unravel back to the divides that the locals want. I think a loose Federation is the best that can be hoped for. These people hate each other. Like Tito, it took a Dictator to make them live together.
I blame the Treaty of Paris.
NT'odd
I blame the Council of Nicea
1. My Sharona, The Knack
2. Bad Girls, Donna Summer
3. Le Freak, Chic
4. Da Ya Think I'm Sexy, Rod Stewart
5. Reunited, Peaches and Herb
6. I Will Survive, Gloria Gaynor
7. Hot Stuff, Donna Summer
8. Y.M.C.A., Village People
Ah, Woody, you really think so?
God, what a comment on our culture. Rock went totally moribund there for several years.
Each would be controlled by a dictator except for the Kurds who might manage to put together some kind of democracy.
Except what would the Turks and Iranians do? They have made pretty clear that they will not stand for an independent Kurdistan. The whole thing was fucked from the get go.
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Musically, 1979, from the perspective of popular music, was a fucking wasteland...
I *hated* disco at the time, but since then #6 "I Will Survive" has really grown on me
Somehow, I suspect that this Brian Wilson idiot blathering on Fox News right now is not the guy who did the "Pet Sounds" album.
Thank god.
Good lord, man, what are you doing?
Really, Simels is right, what the hell are you doing? I'm down with bronchitis here... are you trying to kill me?
Why does the DOJ get to spend public money promoting the wiretap legislation Bush wants?
And "YMCA"
One by one, these stiched together countries - Yugoslavia, Czechoslavakia, USSR, will unravel back to the divides that the locals want. I think a loose Federation is the best that can be hoped for. These people hate each other. Like Tito, it took a Dictator to make them live together.
General Zod
I agree with you but what I really do not want to see happen is our dismantling of the country. Let the Iraqis do it. I don't think we have any business doing it. We have done enough, thank you.
Everybody's gonna presict, predict, predict, but never act, because then their prediction may not come true.
When the proof of the pudding is in the eating, suddenly we're all on a diet...
The war in Iraq is disasterous. But the war in Afghanistan is armegeddon like. Things are not going our way because we have a petulant brat running our foreign policy. A brat that refuses to allow thinking that does not conform to his way of thinking. All that stands between us and mass death is an ocean. When the radicals figure a way into this county, we will pay dearly for the blunders this would be king has reigned upon us.
These people hate each other. Like Tito, it took a Dictator to make them live together.
General Zod
Turkey's insistence on no free Kurdistan, the looming battle over who gets Kirkuk, and the Shia-Sunni division in Bhagdad are only the worst three of numerous very serious practical obstacles to any partition of Iraq.
Your gains are pitiful. Stop spinning. Media Research Center www.mrc.org has your number, there analisis is spot-on. You have won nothing, hopefully you have not lost us the War On Terror. God Bless Our President, and God Bless Our Troops.
I blame the Council of Nicea
I blame the Big Bang.
I liked "The Logical Song" and "The Sultans of Swing" at the time, but they haven't aged well.
Give every man, woman and child in iraq an ak-47 and a thousand rounds...
there's really nothing else that can be done...
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When a subpoena hits your eye like a big pizza pie
That's some oh-oh-oversight!
If I remember correctly-- granted, an iffy statement at best --1979 was a totally boss year.
Tons of great indie/punk/nascent new wave shit going on.
Didn't the Pretenders first album come out in 1979? I seem to recall that one side or another of that record was playing at every party held in the United States.
Musically, 1979, from the perspective of popular music, was a fucking wasteland...
Not from my perspective. The Jam, Shoes, the Cars, Cheap Trick: they were all on fire in 1979. It's not classic rock or jazz or whatever, but it's a watershed year for powerpop.
Somehow, I suspect that this Brian Wilson idiot blathering on Fox News right now is not the guy who did the "Pet Sounds" album.
Thank god.
steve simels
I'm lying in bed
just like
Brian Wilson did
OT, but the map that was posted last thread about the purpling of America really emphasizes it. What are our plans for NOLA and MS? Anybody heard anything? We need to get that appropriated money down there where it can help. Coastal MS went blue and so did southeast LA this week. Those people will remember who helped them and who screwed them.
Well if its as good as Bush's secret plan (you put on a WW2 flying jacket and strut around the deck of a warship saying, "we whupped their ass" or words to that effect) I will not be holding my breath.
God Bless Our President, and God Bless Our Troops.
auggysback
They sneezed?
Ah c'mon - I've nothing agin Rickie Lee, or Dire Straits. And "I Want You To Want Me" doesn't rock?
Let the Iraqis do it. I don't think we have any business doing it. We have done enough, thank you.
Tena
Yes, it has to be their decision, not one of ours shoved through proxies.
I liked "The Logical Song" and "The Sultans of Swing" at the time, but they haven't aged well.
Lester Burnham, now dead 1:27 pm
nothing that mark knopfler ever recorded is not at least 1oo times better than anything else on the pop charts at the time...
the sultans play creole...
imho 
And the Pretenders, as simels notes.
Let the Iraqis do it. I don't think we have any business doing it. We have done enough, thank you.
Should we help facilitate the process to attempt to minimize the bloodhed? Not own it, mind you, not make it our responsibility, but try to learn from the awfulness of the Yugoslav breakup.
Auggy you bet me
if republicans lost
you would never darknen our doorstep again
so please to be fukcing off
or do you wnat to be a liar
Your gains are pitiful. Stop spinning. Media Research Center www.mrc.org has your number, there analisis is spot-on. You have won nothing, hopefully you have not lost us the War On Terror. God Bless Our President, and God Bless Our Troops.
auggysback | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:27 pm | #
I love you, man!
Ah c'mon - I've nothing agin Rickie Lee, or Dire Straits. And "I Want You To Want Me" doesn't rock?
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 1:29 pm
and robert palmer's addicted to love, too...
but be real...4 mebbe 5 songs out of 100?
not landmark territory...
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Each would be controlled by a dictator except for the Kurds who might manage to put together some kind of democracy.
Except what would the Turks and Iranians do? They have made pretty clear that they will not stand for an independent Kurdistan. The whole thing was fucked from the get go.
I know the Turks have said that they would not allow an independent Kurdistan but they want to get in to the EU. They might leave Kurdistan alone if it was very clear that the EU would have nothing to do with them for many years if they did invade. The Iranians will probably have enough to do trying to influence the rest of the country. Also if they moved into Kurdistan would the Turks let them? I don't know anything about the relative military strengths of Iran and Turkey but I doubt the Iranians want to find out.
Lunch break.
My double pastrami just arrived. Ahh, cholesterol - the good food.
I wager of the republicans hadn;t sucked ass
auggy
would all "you are loosers"
now he's down to disregarding america's move to the left
And there's a lot more to Blondie than "Heart of Glass," which sucked, IMHO. But there are some great songs on Parallel Lines.
Also the Starjets and Paul Collins' Beat had amazing records in 1979. And I will also confess to a soft spot for Supertramp.
I'm lying in bed just like Brian Wilson did
I was angry when I met you, I think I'm angry still
We can try to talk it over, If you say you'll help me out
Don't worry baby (don't worry baby) - No need to fight
Don't worry baby (don't worry baby) - We'll be alright
the sultans play creole...
imho
Woody Guthrie's Guitar
Word straight up!
Musically, 1979, from the perspective of popular music, was a fucking wasteland...
Woody Guthrie's Guitar |
Can it possibly be worse than the era of bubble-gum music, e.g., The 1910 Fruitgum Company - One, Two, Three, Red Light 1967 or '68?
nothing that mark knopfler ever recorded is not at least 1oo times better than anything else on the pop charts at the time...
Emphasis on "at the time" and we're in synch. I had all their albums and wore 'em out. Now I put in a CD and the magic is gone. Maybe I just heard the Straits too often in the past
Now Steely Dan, they are timeless.
Oh, and there's another retro pleaser on the list: "Dance the Night Away" (and "Beautiful Girls" not on the list but just sayin') stands up well over time IMHO
I *hated* disco at the time, but since then #6 "I Will Survive" has really grown on me
Pretty much how I felt, too, and I've come to appreciate/enjoy some disco since then.
Of course, I've also confessed to some appalling musical taste here in the past.
auggy
I know that you probably can not tell us where in Iraq you are posting from, but could you tell us what date your tour there ends?
In my rooooooom
In my rooom
Disco was dying in 1979. ("Goodnight Tonight," "Enough Is Enough"--shudder) But there was a gap there where all sorts of interesting things happened, Woody. Not popular, true, but terrific nonetheless.
This is bullshit.
Democrats can and will do something about Iraq. We don't need no fucking Bakers, Gates, or Bush 41.
It's not complicated.
Employ Iraqis to rebuild their country.
Open a dialogue with Iraqis (the Insurgents if anyone is paying attention) and ask them what they want. Stop ignoring them and hoping they will go away.
Get helmet inserts, body armor, and vehicle armor to the troops asap.
Appeal to Arab leaders from the region to open a dialogue with Iraqis leaders.
Any one of these is 10 times as much as what Bush has tried.
Except what would the Turks and Iranians do? They have made pretty clear that they will not stand for an independent Kurdistan. The whole thing was fucked from the get go.
Turkey has a 1 million man army. Maybe a little EU incentive would make them more receptive. That would take diplomacy with the Europeans. Not Shrubs forte, exactly.
Auggy you bet me
if republicans lost
you would never darknen our doorstep again
He's a fucking liar without morality like the Republiscum he worships.
Charlie Rangel on Cheney: "He's such a real son of a bitch"
Cheney's gotta go.
Rummy first
Then Cheney
Then Condi
Then Bush
we gave Israeli settlers in the westbank...400,000 per family..what do we owe Iraqis...i think Carlyle should pay them
And the Pretenders, as simels notes. Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
Now you know darn well it was Pretenders, young lady.
1979 the year that dhims turned to flopsweat thanks to the georgia peanut never to recover from their looserness. awhoo werewolves of london your hairs are not perfect dhims face up to your dhoom.
auggysback is a supreme intellectual, rotc lsmft byob asap spqr.
I could keep doing these initials for days, btw.
Good lord, man, what are you doing?
The local FM rocker does a schtick every weekday called "10@10" - "ten great songs from one great year!" (with Don Pardo doing the intro)... Saturday mornings, they run all five as a "marathon".
As you can see , the setlist is usually pretty good, but for '79... Good Lord! *choke*
I *hated* disco at the time, but since then #6 "I Will Survive" has really grown on me
I liked (and stll like) some disco, but that song always made me shudder.
He's a fucking liar without morality like the Republiscum he worships.
Speaking of which, did you see this excreta?
hopefully you have not lost us the War On Terror.
I just got finished watching the PBS Frontline from Afganistan/Pakistan. The WOT goes very poorly. This was made before the election. Your commander has failed in his attempt to quell radical islamists. All he has done is bloster your amount of jism.
Now you know darn well it was Pretenders, young lady.
I do. As Shoes are Shoes and not a "The."
I *hated* disco at the time, but since then #6 "I Will Survive" has really grown on me
Cake's cover takes itself.
.
Speaking of which, did you see this excreta?
And, just like that, I'm no longer interessted in lunch.
Can it possibly be worse than the era of bubble-gum music, e.g., The 1910 Fruitgum Company - One, Two, Three, Red Light 1967 or '68?
GeorgeM | 11.11.06 - 1:32 pm | #
Hey, I love that shit.
Seriously.
Get a copy of "Yummy Yummy Yummy" and turn your stereo so that only the left channel plays.
All you hear is the instrumental track,which is -- I swear -- every bit as tough as the Stones "Jumpin Jack Flash."
Bubblegum is great. Just ask the Ramones.
dith
Same question as I asked of auggy.
I do. As Shoes are Shoes and not a "The." Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
The Name of This Band.
Your gains are pitiful. Stop spinning. Media Research Center www.mrc.org has your number, there analisis is spot-on. You have won nothing, hopefully you have not lost us the War On Terror. God Bless Our President, and God Bless Our Troops.
auggysback
Hey, thanks for 2006!!! you dumbfuck, too stupid to live, cocksucking little whiny ass titty baby.
I liked "The Logical Song" and "The Sultans of Swing" at the time, but they haven't aged well.
Actually, I have to disagree. "The Logical Song" seems pretty damn prescient (and I'm always a sucker for any song with one of those siren whistles), and "Sultans of Swing" is a damn good story-song (which I'm also a sucker for).
The problem with both is you can never hear them without remembering you've heard them ten million fucking times before...
All you hear is the instrumental track,which is -- I swear -- every bit as tough as the Stones "Jumpin Jack Flash."
Seriously?
The things I learn on the internets.
There was one good disco song in 79, that "I Like the Nightlife." Trashy as hell, but it's aged okay.Plus there's that video where Elrond crossdresses.
I *hated* disco at the time, but since then #6 "I Will Survive" has really grown on me
Oh, all right, I also cop to "Pick Up the Pieces"
I could keep doing these initials for days, btw.
lsmft cracks me up for some reason.
God Bless Our President
He missed this week, Auggy bin Doggy
Revealing my eclectic yet pedestrian musical taste to such an august and leaned assembly would no doubt engender the text equivalent of nervous and embarrassed laughter, so I shall forgo the experience on behalf of us all and wish you all a good day.
The disco movie "Flashdance" had a XXX counterpart called "Fleshpants"
I liked "The Logical Song" and "The Sultans of Swing" at the time, but they haven't aged well.
Lester Burnham
"Sultans of Swing" is fucking ageless, it's doing just fine.
1979 saw some very good music, it's just that, like always, the most popular stuff is the usually the dreck.
Hey, I love that shit.
Seriously.
Me too.
The problem with both is you can never hear them without remembering you've heard them ten million fucking times before...
dave©™
That's a big 10-4 good buddy!
Bush and Cheney are still in charge of the war. Unless the Democrat Congress cuts off the money and puts their asses in jail, nothing will change in Iraq.
Speaking of which, did you see this excreta?
Oh, gag.
He's just crying cause Daddy's taking his country away.
Hey, I love that shit.
Me, too, man...
Speaking of instrumental tracks, the track for "Sugar Sugar" is pretty cool, too.
Though I still want to hear the demo Kirshner did for the Monkees as the follow-up to "I'm a Believer." I can almost hear Leon Russell playing that xylophone riff on a cheesy Farisa...
The disco movie "Flashdance" had a XXX counterpart called "Fleshpants"
(1) Flashdance wasn't disco.
(2) I saw "Flesh Gordon" at the drive-in.
There was one good disco song in 79, that "I Like the Nightlife." Trashy as hell, but it's aged okay.Plus there's that video where Elrond crossdresses.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:38 pm | #
Yeppers. Weirdly mannered vocal, but at heart it's classic Memphis r&b. Great record.
And to think I assumed I was the only person who would defend it...
Hey Molly, I have a soft spot for Supertramp too.
"Revealing my eclectic yet pedestrian musical taste to such an august and leaned assembly" catalexis
Intellectual activity does tend to burn calories.
“In recent weeks, homosexual activists have sought to ‘out’ various high-level GOP staffers and leaders as homosexuals, to highlight their hypocrisy in working for a socially conservative party. Now we in the pro-family movement are calling for full disclosure for a different reason: because homosexual GOP staff and pro-‘gay’ policies in the party are undermining the wholesome values Republicans say they support.”
– undercover homosexual agenda investigator Peter LaBarbera, on the secret (and successful) plan by gays to destroy the GOP
from amada/pamdagan
I loved the "story songs" that Dire Straits told at the time. Now, though, they seem a little too overdone, earnest, indulgent, kind like American cars of the period: too large, fat even.
Of course, I've also confessed to some appalling musical taste here in the past.
Oh, hell.
I like Motorhead.
There, I've said it.
Hey Steve,
Got to agree with you re: Bubblegum. I have 2 comps of Bubblegum from the Super K label-its pretty groovy.
However, 1979 also saw the ascendancy of Margaret Thatcher, which was really the beginning of the end for sane government.
There's no good way to end this thing. It's the work of the devil himself.
I like Motorhead.
"Ace of Spades" is awesome, but I dig Hawkwind more.
Lester Burnham, now dead-- I have the exact same take on disco as you do. In 1979, as it happens, I was working at a small record/tape distributor; it was the heyday of "Saturday Night Fever", which we shipped in droves.
Consciously, I loathed disco and considered it a waste of musical talent and technology. After all, I'm one of those arguably snobbish egghead types who resented a genre dedicated to being intentionally and enthusiastically vapid.
But I also wound up going along to a few clubs and bars over the years, including work-related retirement parties or get-togethers with deejays and dance music.
And secretly, and in spite of my genuine disdain, I began to... like... certain disco classics including the two you mentioned. They melted or pounded right through my higher brain functions and soaked into my lizard brain, willy-nilly. I can only apply Emerson's "foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds" as a poultice.
...there analisis is spot-on...
Anal Isis. Deus ex booty...
Oggi, you have become a parody of yourself. Wait..."you'reself". Yeah, that's the ticket...
I loved the "story songs" that Dire Straits told at the time. Now, though, they seem a little too overdone, earnest, indulgent, kind like American cars of the period: too large, fat even.
Journey was to music as K-cars were to automobiles.
I do. As Shoes are Shoes and not a "The."
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:36 pm | #
You like Shoes?
Who knew?
God Bless Our President, and God Bless Our Troops.
God bless the Democrats and the voters who sent them to repudiate Bush's disastrous policies that put our troops in harm's way for no damn good reason.
Of course, I've also confessed to some appalling musical taste here in the past.
Oh, me too.
And I don't really give a fuck if anyone approves. That's the beauty of the iPod.
I think I'm just too fucking old to give a shit if anyone thinks I'm hip or not.
– undercover homosexual agenda investigator Peter LaBarbera, on the secret (and successful) plan by gays to destroy the GOP
With a name like LaBarbera, who investigated this guy? He might be the perfect mole (or hamster)
I love Supertramp's "goodbye stranger".
Afternoon, all--is this a thread where we admit to liking bad music? cause I have a soft spot for, gulp, country.
Bubblegum is great. Just ask the Ramones.
steve simels
Maybe it's the lyrics I object to the most. "Yummy Yummy Yummy, I've got love in my tummy"????
I like Motorhead.
I saw them live last year. Aside from Lemmy's bald spot, it was pretty much the same as it would have been 20 years ago.
1) We give up on pretending that the government we tried to institute is ever going to be the soveregin authority in Iraq.
2) We acknowledge who the real power brokers in that country are -- the Sunni insurgents and the shi'ite militias -- and find a way to bring them to the table after..
3) We announce in no uncertain terms to the world that we intend to vacate Iraq sooner rather than later and make irefutable public demonstration of the fact that we have no intention of trying to establish either permanent military bases or control of the oil industry there.
4) We get real and start negotiating with Syria and Iran about what they can do to help stabilize the situation. We admit to them and to ourselves that we will need carrots to do this and not sticks. This may entail throwing Israel under the bus, as much for its own good as ours.
5) We apologize contritely to all the European and other foreign leaders whom we insulted in order to ramrod this war and beg them for some kind of help in terms of a multinational force. In addition to abasing ourselves for our arrogance, we pay them handsomely.
6) We try to find a way to get the UNRA and ICRC relief agencies operating in Iraq again, with the protection of bluehats who have non-pussified rules of engagement.
7) Once it looks like there are the makings of a functioning cooperation between the tribal Sunni leaders and the Shiite militia leaders, we bug out except for our contribution to the multinational force and hope for the best.
I loathed disco and considered it a waste of musical talent and technology. After all, I'm one of those arguably snobbish egghead types who resented a genre dedicated to being intentionally and enthusiastically vapid.
Exactly! Anhedonia, thy name is Lester
Who knew?
Pppptttthhhhbbbttt!
I made Thers buy me Jeff's book for my birthday.
He's just crying cause Daddy's taking his country away.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse - 1:40 pm
"cause Daddy's taking his country back..."
i'm not one to usually or often or even occasionally start spewing star trek ephemera, but there's that episode where there's a spoiled, dark, curly-headed 'god' in a toga, or some shiite...
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All he has done is bloster your amount of jism.
All trolls are just jismofascists.
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There was one good disco song in 79, that "I Like the Nightlife." Trashy as hell, but it's aged okay.Plus there's that video where Elrond crossdresses.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
And Donna Summers' "Turn out the Lights, Sweet Darling..." or something like that. Nice song.
I dig Hawkwind more.
Kid Charlemagne
After they threw Lemmy out they kinda sucked.
7) Once it looks like there are the makings of a functioning cooperation between the tribal Sunni leaders and the Shiite militia leaders, we bug out except for our contribution to the multinational force and hope for the best.
See, I don't see this happening.
Maybe it's the lyrics I object to the most. "Yummy Yummy Yummy, I've got love in my tummy"????
You prefer spitters?
All trolls are just jismofascists.
Consider this stolen.
I found out the other day that I know a troll, a real one.
Oh it was "Dim All the Lights..." or something like that.
Not from my perspective. The Jam, Shoes, the Cars, Cheap Trick: they were all on fire in 1979.
See, the problem here is: yes, the Cars and Cheap Trick got airplay. The Jam? The Shoes? No.
People forget how incredibly unpopular some of the bands now considered "classic" were back then, and the intense hatred the punk/new wave scene received from the "rock" community.
The legendary underground rocker, KSAN in San Francisco, jumped on the punk/new wave bandwagon with a vengeance starting in '77, and eventually went out of business because of it. While they were playing, for the first time in the US, bands like the Pistols, Elvis Costello, The Motors, and all the others we think of as the "legends" of that era, their rivals cranked up the Eagles, Journey, and Pink Floyd and won the ratings battle.
You prefer spitters?
JeffCO
Auggy supports his local music scene.
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Got to agree with you re: Bubblegum. I have 2 comps of Bubblegum from the Super K label-its pretty groovy.
Kid Charlemagne | 11.11.06 - 1:42 pm | #
There's a song from that period that I've been trying to track down...
It was written by the great Graham Gouldman (Bus Stop, Look Thru Any Window, all that 10cc stuff) but I don't remember who the artist was.
I think it was one of those Kasenetz/Katz bubblegum acts -- maybe even the 1910 Fruitgum etc -- and the title was something like "mendocino" (no, not that Sir Doug song -- but something like that -- a town's name.
I hate being senile.
I cringe as I type, but I liked McCartney's "Back to the Egg."
(hiding)
...there analisis is spot-on...
Anal Isis. Deus ex booty...
Oggi, you have become a parody of yourself. Wait..."you'reself". Yeah, that's the ticket...
Elmer, PHD
Maybe that explains why he walks like an Egyptian.
Afternoon, all--is this a thread where we admit to liking bad music? cause I have a soft spot for, gulp, country.
TJ, ready to work
O my.
That is the one genre I cannot listen to. I'd much rather listen to mariachi music than country. All I ever hear when country music is played, is whining.
And secretly, and in spite of my genuine disdain, I began to... like... certain disco classics including the two you mentioned. They melted or pounded right through my higher brain functions and soaked into my lizard brain, willy-nilly. I can only apply Emerson's "foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds" as a poultice.
Little Brøther/i>
I like dance music in dance clubs. You aren't suposed to listen to it, just move with it. That's OK, except I like *listening* to music when I'm not dancing.
He's just crying cause Daddy's taking his country away.
Now we'll have fun, fun, fun.
Well, I think I'm going to hop out to run some errands, get some drugs for my cold, rent some movies and plan to spend the rest of the weekend hanging with Mr. Plushy.
Who is currently laying on the floor, twisted into what looks to be an anatomically impossible position as he digests his lunch.
(2) I saw "Flesh Gordon" at the drive-in.
I saw it at a porn theater on lower Broadway in Nashville.
It was a simpler age back then.
Hey Molly, I have a soft spot for Supertramp too.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:41 pm | #
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plushy boy looks great!!!!glad he is taking his meds...ask the vet if milk thistle can be taken to cleanse the liver...just a plant substance very cleansing,like cranberries for urinary tract
dave,
I know it all too well.
You know Shoes all have regular jobs? Seriously.
I cringe as I type, but I liked McCartney's "Back to the Egg." (hiding) Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
I make no apologies for enjoying the rockestra.
Molly,
Did you ever catch the rip of "Goody, Goody, Gumdrops" in Redd Cross' "Faith Healer"?
and the title was something like "mendocino" (no, not that Sir Doug song -- but something like that -- a town's name.
Was it Sausolito?
See, I don't see this happening.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
I admit that one's a bit of a stretch. But I think that if we can balance the twin cudgels of external interference from Iran or Syria should the two factions fail to play nice, I think they may realize that they are better off cooperating rather than trying to fight it out. Especially, if we remove ourselves as a player in the racket.
See, I don't see this happening.
Molly
Seeing that they've been at war with each other for over a thousand years, I kind of agree with you.
You know Shoes all have regular jobs? Seriously.
Before he moved to LA, John Wicks of the Records worked at a Best Buy here in Northern VA.
I found out the other day that I know a troll, a real one.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:47 pm | #
You mentioned that yesterday, IIRC.
Spill the beans, please!
Other guilty pleasures of the age:
The first Boston album
"Let's Get Small" by Steve Martin
Did you ever catch the rip of "Goody, Goody, Gumdrops" in Redd Cross' "Faith Healer"?
I can't say I ever pinned that one down, but then one of my favorite hobbies for a while was getting trashed and trying to figure out where Redd Kross had ripped certain riffs from. It's pointless, though--by the time you find it in your mental databank, they've done three more.
plushy boy looks great!!!!glad he is taking his meds...ask the vet if milk thistle can be taken to cleanse the liver...just a plant substance very cleansing,like cranberries for urinary tract
He has to get tests in 2 weeks to make sure his body is tolerating this drug. The big obstacle was whether it would upset his tummy and make him barf.
He seems to be fine though (other than hating the doing part).
blerb is an intellectual giant.
I love `60s samba/bossa nova music.
And add me to the list of soft spot for Supertramp.
People forget how incredibly unpopular some of the bands now considered "classic" were back then, and the intense hatred the punk/new wave scene received from the "rock" community.
I remember the opprobium with which the UK music press treated the Boomtown rats... because they weren't punk.
Up here the first station to play punk was the CBC.
yglesias:
"A big divide among Democrats in the coming years will, I think, have a bit less to do with the substance of Iraq policy than just their analysis of what's going to happen."
Seems to me most dems have nailed it so far. bush's stay the course was only going to make things worse. That's is what has happened so far. Dems nailed it.
"A lot of Democrats seem to think that this very thorny problem will, conveniently, just kind of go away without them needing to do anything about it. Either Jim Baker or John Warner or Bush 41 or someone is going to clean up the mess."
Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen a lot or even any dems say it'll just go away or let the repubs handle it. Is the y-man pulling this out of his ass or what?
It's not up to Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi to come up an Iraq solution or even divine what the future holds. It's bush's war. He is president. bush access to the great minds in the US. All he has to do is listen to them. Even the greatest minds aren't gonna turn a shit hole in to a five layer chocolate cake.
nothing that mark knopfler ever recorded is not at least 1oo times better than anything else on the pop charts at the time...
i000 times, if you're comparing to Stuportramp...
Before he moved to LA, John Wicks of the Records worked at a Best Buy here in Northern VA.
That is a crime. And "Starry Eyes" was even kind of a hit! (Also 1979, IIRC.)
steve, he's our computer guy at work. A real nutjob. Trolls Smirking Chimp, not here.
I found out the other day that I know a troll, a real one.
I think I do too, but I can't confirm it without outting myself.
Was it Sausolito?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:50 pm | #
Ohmigod, I think you're right.
Marry me, please. I don't care if its interspecies.
Disco songs I like: "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer (really Giorgio Moroder), "Disco Inferno" by the Trammps (turning a revolutionary exhortation to destroy society into an exhortation to shake your booty was brilliant in its perversity), "More More More" by the Andrea True Connection (a great recording of the type no one makes anymore)...
And - wait for it - everything the Bee Gees did on the "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack! Another bunch of songs you can't forget you've heard a billion times before, but the production is just fucking awesome. I get all verklumpt every time I hear their version of "More Than a Woman." Sue me!
What else hasn't aged well from then?
The Eagles
The Doobie Brothers
(oh all right) John Denver
I still have an occasional hankering for Jackson Browne and Joni Mitchell, though.
I hate being senile. steve simels
I recall enjoying those Buddha Records joke songs that told a little story with excerpts from the "hits" of the day. I know we had one about the moon landing.
steve, he's our computer guy at work. A real nutjob. Trolls Smirking Chimp, not here.
Oh, dear.
I suspect I know Toby.
Also a techie.
"...and he'll have fun, fun, fun, until Daddy takes Iraq away - yay!"
The first Boston album...
Side one, yes. Side two - eh...
Sue me!
I think it would have to be class-action.
"Disco Inferno" Which takes me straight to "Disco Duck" "Oh mama!"
steve, he's our computer guy at work. A real nutjob. Trolls Smirking Chimp, not here.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:52 pm | #
Oy gevalt.
I found out the other day that I know a troll, a real one.
I am NOT a troll! I've been here for years...
Afternoon, all--is this a thread where we admit to liking bad music? cause I have a soft spot for, gulp, country.
TJ, ready to work
i like country too; well, some of it...who doesn't like original hank Williams, or Bob Wills, or the Carter famblee...merle haggard, buck owens, patsy cline, the louvin bros...
and i like the 'new' roots/altie country, too
but spare me the toby keith/garth brooks (except 'Low places'), and the rest of what's nothing but drawling redneck insensibility.,..
./
Who the fuck is NT'odd? Has Atrios started attracting quaker trolls?
I suspect I know Toby.
Also a techie.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:53 pm | #
Good gravy.
So what you're saying is that Toby isn't his real name?
Details, please.
4legs,
He outed himself to my employee, not to me. But on Thursday, when my coowrkers kept sticking their heads into the office to ask if Macaca had conceded yet, he was pretty tetchy.
What else hasn't aged well from then?
The Eagles
The Doobie Brothers
Are you fucking kidding me?
I heard an early Doobie song on the radio the other day, Long Train Running, and I was struck at how exquisite the guitar work was.
My 23 year old research assistant was in the car with me, and she said, "what a great tune!!"
You know Shoes all have regular jobs? Seriously.
I assume most people from that era are working in "normal" jobs by now. There was no money in it then, and they probably signed away any rights to any music that might now be popular long ago.
Back when I worked at the Big Record Store That Is Now Bankrupt, we used to see a lot of former DJs and musicians coming in as A/R guys and such... but that avenue is pretty much dried up these days.
blerb | 11.11.06 - 1:44 pm
I'm late to the thread, but blerb's "plan" makes more sense than anything we've seen so far.
The only change I'd make is to start with direct talks with Iran, Syria, Jordan, and the Arab League, in essence, asking them to assist in providing military/police forces as we gradually deploy 'over the horizon' so that the Iraqi civilians have some security force in place.
4 legs,
I'd draw a distinction between early Doobies and Michael McDonald-era.
Good gravy.
So what you're saying is that Toby isn't his real name?
Yeah, what a shock. I just know this guy's politics, and I also know he bought a home in South Austin around the same time Toby did, he drives a crappy car AND he works for the state.
I could be wrong, but the circumstantial evidence fits.
And - wait for it - everything the Bee Gees did on the "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack! Another bunch of songs you can't forget you've heard a billion times before, but the production is just fucking awesome. I get all verklumpt every time I hear their version of "More Than a Woman." Sue me!
dave©™
I must confess to owning a Gibb/Streisand duet CD
"Disco Inferno"
Ever play the game "Afterlife" from LucasArts.
One of the hazards is "Vinnie, the Disco Inferno"
Back when I worked at the Big Record Store That Is Now Bankrupt, we used to see a lot of former DJs and musicians coming in as A/R guys and such... but that avenue is pretty much dried up these days.
Absolutely.
I could be wrong, but the circumstantial evidence fits.
Is the pic he used to post real?
4 legs,
I'd draw a distinction between early Doobies and Michael McDonald-era.
I do too, though there are a few songs from the McDonald era I like as well.
But early Doobies rocked. The Captain and Me is a great album. I love that song Ukiah.
While you're all here, I'll remind you again that DeepDiscountDVD is having their biannual extra 20% off everything sale. You can find an FAQ and codes here. Best prices of the year on some stuff.
BTW, since it's most regulars here today, let me whore my brand-spanking-new blog featuring my cartoon work!
Speaking of someone looking for a job (in cartooning, that is)...
And - wait for it - everything the Bee Gees did on the "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack! Another bunch of songs you can't forget you've heard a billion times before, but the production is just fucking awesome. I get all verklumpt every time I hear their version of "More Than a Woman." Sue me!
dave©™
***********
Or as my brothers called it "Bald-headed Woman."
Is the pic he used to post real?
Oh, I never saw that. So I can't say. That might confirm things.
Steve,
That tune isn't on any of my Bubblegum comps, but I need to look at my records. I might have it.
I get all verklumpt every time I hear their version of "More Than a Woman." Sue me!
dave©™
Oh, I like that too.
The Captain and Me is a great album.
Crikey, I first read that as "The Captain and Tennille"! Muskrat Love anyone?
I'd draw a distinction between early Doobies and Michael McDonald-era.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:58 pm | #
Actually, the very first Doobies album -- which has no hits on it -- is pretty cool. They were a hippie/biker bar band at that point.
And guess who got them signed to Warner Brothers?
Skip Spence. Of Moby Grape, and one of the greatest fucking rock guys who ever drew breath.
Even after he lost his marbles, he still had his marbles, if you know what I mean.
I heard an early Doobie song on the radio the other day, Long Train Running, and I was struck at how exquisite the guitar work was.
that's kinda 'early' Doobies, innit, and quite different from the disco doobies?
"I'd like to hear some funky Dixieland, pretty mama come and take me by the hand,"
pre-michael mcdonald stuff rocked...
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Oh, I never saw that. So I can't say. That might confirm things.
Heavyset guy, brown hair, bearded. It was his gravatar.
Blogwhore Alert!
They Write Letters, But Should They Some real genius letter writers were published in the local fishwrap this morning, Veteran's Day morning.
Speaking of the Doobie Brothers, the song "Jesus is Just Alright" will be on my iPod in hell.
I'd draw a distinction between early Doobies and Michael McDonald-era.
Exactly. And I still have "Neal's Fandango" on my shuffle list.
Oh, and Rocky Mountain Way, about the only Joe Walsh song I could stand, but it's a gem
And add me to the list of soft spot for Supertramp.
Me, too.
As one gets older, "The Long Way Home" becomes more meaningful.
.
that's kinda 'early' Doobies, innit, and quite different from the disco doobies?
Yes, came out in 1973.
Oh, I never saw that. So I can't say. That might confirm things.
Didn't someone describe it as an asshole turned inside out?
Kid C,
Eli sent me Strange Man, Changed Man for my bday.
As one gets older, "The Long Way Home" becomes more meaningful.
.
Toonscribe, BlogJohn
It's an incredibly melancholy song.
plushy boy looks great!!!!glad he is taking his meds...ask the vet if milk thistle can be taken to cleanse the liver...just a plant substance very cleansing,like cranberries for urinary tract
I gave Hank milk thistle when she was getting chemo. I don't know if it helped but she lived about three months longer than the predictions and she was having a great time until three days before the end.
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The first Boston album...
Side one, yes. Side two - eh...
dave©™
Side 3...4...5...6. Definitely not worth the wait. Jeez, by the time the last one came out, the kids that danced to the first one were married with kids of their own...
Heavyset guy, brown hair, bearded. It was his gravatar.
If that was a real photo, that isn't who I'm thinking of.
Sadly, there are several people in Austin who are trollish enough and churlish enough to fit Toby's profile.
I'm sure that won't come as a shock to anyone.
And guess who got them signed to Warner Brothers? Skip Spence. Of Moby Grape, and one of the greatest fucking rock guys who ever drew breath.
I know this was discussed over the summer... who was the guy from the Beau Brummels who brought someone who became extremely popular to Warner Brothers' attention?
Bands of the time I missed but caught up with later: B-52s and Talking Heads
post bush owls
Eli sent me Strange Man, Changed Man for my bday.
Oh. My. GOD!
Hmmm...the Tower Records going out of bizness sale is happening down the street.
50 percent off?
Think I'll stroll down there and buy me a present.
Hope they have the Move box set!!!!
But I'll settle for Warren Zevon's "Excitable Boy" or John Cale's "Paris 1919."
Other guilty pleasures of the age:
The first Boston album
That's not really a guilty pleasure. Great album. Way overplayed, but a good one, just the same.
Molly I - I couldn't agree more on the Doobies. When Tom Johnston was at the helm, that was a great rock and roll band.
I've always had a problem with Michael McDonald because he turned the Doobies into lounge lizards. I can take him now, but back then I hated him.
OT: motivation tool backfiring. Rosie gets four M&M's when she uses the potty successfully. She has taken to whining when she doesn't have to go. "More emmies!"
Speaking of the Doobie Brothers, the song "Jesus is Just Alright" will be on my iPod in hell.
You realize that was originally done by the Byrds?
steve - is it this Ohio Express song?
Molly,
Did he burn it? That's not on CD is it? I've only seen it as a *really* expensive Japanese import.
I saw them back in the day right around "Girl of My Dreams". My buddy really bugged Bram T. by calling for Motors songs the whole concert. Finally, he stopped, turn to my friend and said exasperatedly, "We came to bury the Motors, not praise them!"
sheets
I know this was discussed over the summer... who was the guy from the Beau Brummels who brought someone who became extremely popular to Warner Brothers' attention?
dave©™ | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 2:06 pm | #
I think you're referring to the great Sal Valentino (BBs frontman) but I don't know who he got signed.
Did he burn it? That's not on CD is it? I've only seen it as a *really* expensive Japanese import.
Yes, no, and I think you're right.
Drop me an email if you want a copy.
sorry, i should have said (instead of sheets)
DRAPES!
Foulegs,
Toby Petzold on NEOGNOSTIKOS.NET
Not a great pic but it should be enough to ID the turd.
OT: motivation tool backfiring. Rosie gets four M&M's when she uses the potty successfully. She has taken to whining when she doesn't have to go. "More emmies!"
Wait till her future boyfriend offers her some M&Ms.
-Dr. S. Freud
Molly, I'll trade you for that great Twilley disc I got!
Molly, I'll trade you for that great Twilley disc I got!
Perfect! Do you have my email?
Molly - I promise by the time she goes to kindergarten, she'll be using the potty.
suspect I know Toby.
Also a techie.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
O, so that makes Toby a troll in real life, too. Austin is a blue city in a blue part of Texas pretty much all the time.
plushy boy looks great!!!!glad he is taking his meds...ask the vet if milk thistle can be taken to cleanse the liver...just a plant substance very cleansing,like cranberries for urinary tract
I gave Hank milk thistle when she was getting chemo. I don't know if it helped but she lived about three months longer than the predictions and she was having a great time until three days before the end.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 2:05 pm | #
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"blerb's "plan" makes more sense..."
Diane C
Abandoning our support of Israel "for their own good" is not sensible, or responsible, especially as the peace process there had advanced quite well until this latest escalation of regional conflict occasioned by our, or rather the twice unelected Cheney and Bush's, overwhelming need to fubar Iraq. This is why diplomacy was strenuously urged upon the administration from many quarters, especially this one, in what has now come to be known as the "run-up to the war", ie the wholesale lying and media manipulation which presaged it.
Negotiations were critical then; 4 years and hundreds of thousands of lives later, negotiation there is now imperative to the current stability and future interests of the planet.
It really isn't a good thing to go around making war, even if you can, and even if you can "profit" by it in the short term. In the long run everyone loses. Now that we have refuted the GOP paradigm, it's time to do the same with the permanent war paradigm the GOP fosters.
Molly, has it changed? I have the one when I sent you the CDs last time.
OT: motivation tool backfiring. Rosie gets four M&M's when she uses the potty successfully. She has taken to whining when she doesn't have to go. "More emmies!"
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
Uh oh.
My granddaughter is now asking to use the potty. Yay! My son told me he bought her some big girl pants the other week to encourage her. He's such a wonderful parent. Which is lucky, considering her mom...who basically isn't really enamored of having a child who isn't a kitten or puppy.
Kid C,
It's the same.
I could be wrong, but the circumstantial evidence fits.
Riddle me this: Is there a Cheeto stuck in his beard? 
i like country too; well, some of it...who doesn't like original hank Williams, or Bob Wills...
[raises hand]
Oh, I can handle some Bob Wills, and a little Waylon & Willie never hurt nobody, but Hank--Sr or Jr or 3r--leaves me cold. The worst of it, I think, being that Godawful noise they called a steel guitar in the early '50s. Hateful stuff...
Abandoning our support of Israel "for their own good" is not sensible, or responsible,,
Why not?
Many owls overhead! But I still want an answer about the Cheeto...
Because
A) We have an obligation to at least restore the environment that existed before the increased violence occasioned by our, or rather the twice-unelected Cheney and Bush's limitless desire to fubar Iraq, and
B) Because our doing so would lead to less rather than more stability in the region and thus the world, and
C) Because simply runing into a place, causing untold havoc, saying "oops, sorry", then running out is not a responsible, moral, ethical, logical, or practical way to conduct the foreign policy of the United States of America.
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