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Claire is very inexperienced. She also said she could vote for Bolton on Tweety's show. But i expect monsieur Reid will have a nice chat with her soon enough and all will be fine
Debate?
Now, they say, they have to produce — to deal with long-festering problems like access to affordable health care and the loss of manufacturing jobs, and to find a bipartisan consensus for an exit strategy in Iraq, a source of continuing division not only between but also within the parties.
As you and others have noted, Bush is still the president. This makes it sound like the Dems are in control.
Plum--I imagine Mr. Reid has not abandoned the collection of fierce looking toys he probably has in his collection.
At UCLA conferences, we actually have a guy who brings a bullwhip to keep people on track. It's about the only time things don't run over.
The lazy liberal media, chapter #145,964.
NTodd--Debate? Why? Are you going fishing?
And how are the Kidz?
from below
Didn't wifey walk in on them fucking on Mother's Day?
dave©™
it's worse. There was some kind of public event that wifey had always presided over. The press was there as were about 50 invitees. Rudy decided that year that his mistress would preside, but never told his wife, so when she showed up she was confronted, in public with the press, with the mistress on the receiving line.
Prick.
ql in ny | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 2:18 pm | #
from below
Didn't wifey walk in on them fucking on Mother's Day?
dave©™
it's worse. There was some kind of public event that wifey had always presided over. The press was there as were about 50 invitees. Rudy decided that year that his mistress would preside, but never told his wife, so when she showed up she was confronted, in public with the press, with the mistress on the receiving line.
Prick.
ql in ny | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 2:18 pm | #
Frankly, I wasn't too impressed with McCaskill when I heard her post-victory interview on CNN election night. A lot of that "why can't we all get along?" bullshit.
Vote the party line, Claire, and there won't be any problems...
from 2 threads back:
One by one, these stiched together countries - Yugoslavia, Czechoslavakia, USSR, will unravel back to the divides that the locals want. I think a loose Federation is the best that can be hoped for. These people hate each other. Like Tito, it took a Dictator to make them live together.
General Zod
I agree with you but what I really do not want to see happen is our dismantling of the country. Let the Iraqis do it. I don't think we have any business doing it. We have done enough, thank you.
Tena | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 1:25 pm
I have no idea whether or not Iraq will be partitioned. But I do know that Iraq is not the USSR, or Yugoslavia. Totally different situation, different history, different reasons for the partition.
Tito may have 'created' Yugoslavia out of the ashes of WWII and the old Kingdom, but 'they' haven't always hated each other. The 'locals' didn't want war, they didn't want a breakup. Modern political machinations (manipulation of nationalism) are the reason for the breakup up Yugoslavia. In that, there is a similarity to Iraq. The 'people' won't count, the politicans don't care about them, they care about power.
What is shocking, to me at least, is that McCaskill doesn't seem to know anything about John Bolton.
I mean, I realize we're all informed about these characters above and beyond most Americans, but McCaskill is a friggin' politician. She should know who the players are, at least at the national level.
Economic populism is going to be a much bigger deal. I think the obvious stupidity of the fucktard tax cuts and the balooning Federal deficit, after the utterly irresponsible, blowjob receiving Clinton balanced the budget and was producing surpluses for the first time in what, 30 years, finally got to a lot of people out there.
It's time for the Bush Crime Family and its cronies to be reined in, as in making little rocks out of big rocks reined in.
Adultery May Be A GOP Family Value In 2008
(McCain and Guliani!)
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/ar...ives/
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...it's worse. There was some kind of public event that wifey had always presided over. The press was there as were about 50 invitees. Rudy decided that year that his mistress would preside, but never told his wife, so when she showed up she was confronted, in public with the press, with the mistress on the receiving line.
Ah! Now you know... the rest of the story!
to contrapose the 2 minutes of hate that brit brings to fuxnews, can we have 2 minutes of silence for veterans day
fuck you george, for making more and more everyday
McCaskill really has tripped up like nobody's business. She was the Best Campaigner No-One Cared About among the Senate crew, and for the past few days she's been all over the place -- including all sorts of bullshit about giving the preznit deference on Yosemite Bolton.
Um, don't go native already, Claire? And yes, have a chat with Harry Reid about how you were elected as a Democrat.
McCaskill got elected in a fairly conservative place, so she's saying what the constituency liked in her election campaign. She'll learn how to do the talk-and-walk thingy, I hope.
i dont think we should allow BakerBotts to control the Iraq dialogue...why give him STATESMAN -LIKE status...hes just another CROOK...big gangsta be it as it may
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so far Claire is way to GLIB for my liking...stfu claire till ya get the lay of the land!!!
is "the elite consensus" like "conventional wisdom"?
labor unions have been effectively illegal in the US for a couple of decades, according to Human Rights Watch. The union members and their families have worked hard for the Democratic Party--- they've put in time and money and shoeleather-- they've really come thru. Now the Democrats have to support the working people of America and make it possible again for workers to join and organize unions. More union members will, in turn, benefit the Democatic Party.
Um, don't go native already, Claire? And yes, have a chat with Harry Reid about how you were elected as a Democrat.
Claire needs to have a talk with Chafee.
I hate house cleaning. Why can't we just agree to move on when the cave is filled with dust?
"Giuliani informed his second wife, Donna Hanover, of his intention to seek a separation in a 2000 press conference. The announcement was precipitated by a tabloid frenzy after Giuliani marched with his then-mistress, Judith Nathan, in New York's St. Patrick's Day parade, an acknowledgement of infidelity so audacious that Daily News columnist Jim Dwyer compared it with "groping in the window at Macy's." In the acrid divorce proceedings that followed, Hanover accused Giuliani of serial adultery, alleging that Nathan was just the latest in a string of mistresses, following an affair the mayor had had with his former communications director."
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/ar...ives/
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Claire needs to have a talk with Chafee.
pie
In.
Deed.
OK, let's start a pool. Who will be the first troublesome Democratic congesssperson to die is a tragic small plane crash?
Hanover accused Giuliani of serial adultery
Oh my.
Not presidential material at all.
Now the Democrats have to support the working people of America and make it possible again for workers to join and organize unions.
Yes!
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Oh, and a note to the big papers? The Heath Shuler stuff is getting really tiring. I was talking to a bunch of party workers who manned precincts for the election -- one served as 'the big white guy outside the black community center, to make sure the sheriff's deputies keep their distance' -- and they all admitted it was a clothespeg vote, and that Shuler really isn't the brightest penny in the jar.
Still, he was smart to appear with Sherrod Brown very early on, cementing his position as an anti-globollocks economic populist.
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i dont think we should allow BakerBotts to control the Iraq dialogue...why give him STATESMAN -LIKE status...hes just another CROOK...big gangsta be it as it may
sittenpretty,MCI SUCKS
"Maybe we'll actually get a real debate on this stuff for once."
Maybe in some back hall in Congress, but nowhere in the "real world" until we get back the Fairness Doctrine.
Hanover accused Giuliani of serial adultery
Oh my.
Not presidential material at all.
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he really is pond scum for a myriad of reasons...thats from clients of his ...way,way back ...im told
no thats not ..im too old 
Not presidential material at all.
pie
and that's only the sex scandals. I'm sure we can find some $$$ scandals as well. Remember Bernard Kerik?
Tim Walz, a Minnesota teacher, retired National Guardsman and newly elected Democrat, described himself as “a farm state Democrat-soldier who’s concerned about the environment and civil liberties.”
He has seen how ugly the partisanship can get in American politics, Mr. Walz said, and is adamant about changing it. “I’m convinced that what we need to do is heal,” he said. “Tuesday was not a Democratic referendum; it was an American referendum. It’s not that the American people are so enamored with the Democratic vision, but what they believed is what we said about cleaning up corruption, having some real open debate. It just seems so broken.”
At least this one gets it.
Damn tags, I hate them.
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i dont think we should allow BakerBotts to control the Iraq dialogue...why give him STATESMAN -LIKE status...hes just another CROOK...big gangsta be it as it may
sittenpretty,MCI SUCKS
Absolutely. Never forget that Baker is essentially the Tom Hagen of this gang, brought in by the Don to clean up Fredo's mess.
He should be hanging, at most, two lamppossts down from the Don and Fredo.
OK, let's start a pool. Who will be the first troublesome Democratic congesssperson to die is a tragic small plane crash?
Waxman or Conyers.
Jennifer - “Tuesday was not a Democratic referendum; it was an American referendum. It’s not that the American people are so enamored with the Democratic vision, but what they believed is what we said about cleaning up corruption, having some real open debate. It just seems so broken.”
Yeah, that's what I'm hearing, too.
OK, let's start a pool. Who will be the first troublesome Democratic congesssperson to die is a tragic small plane crash?
OK, let's start a second pool. Who will be the first troublesome Liebercratic senator to die in a tragic small plane crash?
Maybe we'll actually get a real debate on this stuff for once.
Maybe so. Then the opposition will have a propagandagasm with clips from that debate (Senator X doesn't believe that the Free Market can change water into wine...) and that'll be that.
"Fundamentalism" is the proper term for the way a lot of folks feel about the Free Market. It differs from religion mainly in that most people know something about their religion.
A nice thought, though.
I'm not surprised McCaskill didn't give a definate "no" on Bolton before she even took office.
Bring back the goddamn anti-trust division of the DOJ. It's been moribund long enough.
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i dont think we should allow BakerBotts to control the Iraq dialogue...why give him STATESMAN -LIKE status...hes just another CROOK...big gangsta be it as it may
sittenpretty,MCI SUCKS
Absolutely. Never forget that Baker is essentially the Tom Hagen of this gang, brought in by the Don to clean up Fredo's mess.
He should be hanging, at most, two lamppossts down from the Don and Fredo.
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the mighty wurlitzer has given him the status already ...like his words should be etched in a big Rosetta stone.....not so flippin fast
Who will be the first troublesome Democratic congesssperson to die is a tragic small plane crash?
I'll put $5 on Durbin.
Pretty nitpickin stuff. I just like the breath and breadth of victory and the fresh air coming in through the open windows. Soon enough the dems will think they have to batten down the hatches and load the cannons again when the Preznit thinks he's reagained his balance and all who oppose him is defeatocrats and terrists.
There is no getting along with repukes. To get along with repukes means to follow their agenda exclusively.
I did not vote Democratic with the idea in mind having the repukes treat us decently.
It's like we are some kind of beaten wife or something, attempting to get the abuser to understand us or maybe, like the beaten wife, if we behave just right they will not beat us again.
Well fuck that attitude. Fuck these wife beating repukes.
Fuck them all... time for the burning bed baby.
The goal of this upcoming congress is not to find the love of repukes.
The goal of this upcoming congress is to govern and represent 'we the people' which includes investigations that will stop the kind of wife beating abuse that has been occuring over the last 12 fucking years.......
McCaskill got elected in a fairly conservative place, so she's saying what the constituency liked in her election campaign.
But she wasn't saying that during the campaign -- at least, not what I heard. Yes, you run against 'Washington', but she was running against Bush too, and Bolton is as clear a case of Bush's little-boy 'Me want!' attitude as you can get.
puppy!
http://mfrost.typepad.com/
cute_o...up_and_hyd.html
I just like the breath and breadth of victory and the fresh air coming in through the open windows.
Yeah.
[inhale] Ahhhhhhhhhhh.
And never forget that 9/11 was primary day here in NY and Rudy wanted to cancel the mayoral election to stay on.
Molly: how's the toilet training going with Rosie?
Oh, and a note to the big papers? The Heath Shuler stuff is getting really tiring. I was talking to a bunch of party workers who manned precincts for the election -- one served as 'the big white guy outside the black community center, to make sure the sheriff's deputies keep their distance' -- and they all admitted it was a clothespeg vote, and that Shuler really isn't the brightest penny in the jar.
Chafee was probably more liberal than some Democratic senators but he counted when it came to determine who ran the place. What matters is that you have more warm bodies with the right letter after their name. What they personally believe only counts when it comes down to a position that they cannot be persuaded to accept when it comes to vote time. If you don't have the bodies you don't control what they even get to vote on.
I'm not surprised McCaskill didn't give a definate "no" on Bolton before she even took office.
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she needs to get a poker face...and get slower on her delivery...soto voce
I'll put $5 on Durbin.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
Barney Frank out of the running?
when the Preznit thinks he's reagained his balance and all who oppose him is defeatocrats and terrists.
I hope Bootsy keeps that shit up. With a Dem Congress to fuck with him, that will be entertaining. And will keep his sorry ass unpopular. No reclamation projects, thank you.
The only important issue to deal with is the fallout from John Kerry's flubbed joke.
It cost you the election, haven't you heard?
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And never forget that 9/11 was primary day here in NY and Rudy wanted to cancel the mayoral election to stay on.
And New Yorkers adamantly said, *No fucking way!*
Toilet training! Awww, Christ...
[grabs bag of potato chips from counter and hurriedly exits]
"Who will be the first troublesome Democratic congesssperson to die is a tragic small plane crash?"
Waxman.
Molly: how's the toilet training going with Rosie?
I mentioned this below, but she does pretty good during the day, at home, pantless. (That's a lot of qualifiers, I know.)
Problem is, she gets M&M's when she's successful, so she's taken to getting in my face and yelling "More emmies!" when she doesn't have to go.
We're working on it.
If you don't have the bodies you don't control what they even get to vote on.
Glad you mentioned that.
Barney Frank out of the running?
Hey $5 only buys you one square in the pool.
carl levin
Oh by the way, did anyone notice on the cover of USA Today the announcement of new funds being of weapons allocations for south american nations? We are giving them weapons because the governments are becoming too Liberal. I guess with shrubs eye on terror he allowed a little too much democracy to creep in down south.....
I think House committee investigations are essential to success in 2008. Democrats have to show publicly and clearly the total criminal mess, in Iraq and here at home, the GOP has made. Otherwise, the Goopers and the MSM will talk 24/7 about the "unsolved problems" left over by "the Democrats in control of Congress." The GOP owns the mess right now, but they'll try to weasel out of it by 2008 and the MSM will help all they can.
Who will be the first troublesome Democratic congesssperson to die is a tragic small plane crash?
I'll put $5 on Durbin.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
Only would gain them anything if it was a Senator from a state with a Republican governor.
Waxman.
bublitchki
Is going to tear the Administration a new asshole. I can't wait.
We're working on it.
Molly
and in 2 years, it will be our future president's turn to learn how to potty! So sweet.
We're working on it.
Molly
and in 2 years, it will be our future president's turn to learn how to potty! So sweet.
Rosie will be the first president, SP the second president. Another political family is being born.
Only would gain them anything if it was a Senator from a state with a Republican governor.
Good point. But that's a lot fewer than it was this time last week.
Boxer?
Rosie will be the first president, SP the second president. Another political family is being born.
Echidne of the snakes
NO! Rosie will be Speaker of the House!
Rosie will be the first president, SP the second president. Another political family is being born.
We'll work on the whole empathy and personal responsibility thing.
Right now, GWB is getting in James Baker's face and screaming "More emmies!"
I'll take
Conyers
Pigboy,
I know you kids have a hard time undesrtanding this, but there WAS a time when the GOP was not totally controlled by wild-eyed, bomb-throwing, sack-the-city-and-rape-the-women-and-enslave-the-
children loons like it is now.
At one time Democrats and Republicans disagreed on many things, but could work together.
Somewhere in the 80's that totally changed. The shitbird Lanny Davis was on some talking head show last week and said that the GOP "Revolution" was in response to Democratic abuses in the 80's. He specifically cited special prosecutors as part of this, which is pure revisionist history, which is why Davis is going into the Duck Pit. The Reagan Administration openly shat on the Constitution with Iran-Contra, and it's been all downhill ever since.
The GOP has been transformed from a "broad tent" party into one where crushing those without money with the heel of your jackboot has been elevated to holy writ. Where racism is openly embraced as the key to keeping the masses in line.
Some Democrats are deluded into thinking the way it was as recently as the 70's is how it is now. They cannot do that. You're right...you cannot work with the current GOP any more than Social Democrats or Christian Democrats could work with National Socialists in the Weimar Republic. It's just not possible, because the GOP has made it very, very clear that they're out to trash the Constitution by any means necessary.
If Rosie wanted to be a pol, she could easily do so. I have never seen anyone figure out how to game the system so quickly.
the teen will be a state rep?
[returns, wearing MP3 player, humming softly. Crosses room, opens refrigerator, removes container of Rondele cheese spread, exits]
I just hope that there is something done to end the nonsense in Iraq sooner rather than later.
There are aan awful lot of Dem hawks
Out on my deck, the feeding continues...
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coverage of social issues, there's at least acknowledgment that lefty-liberal social views exist.
**
Fie Fie!!!
The bane of ad-makers everywhere was that these libby-views were cloistered through the left's cowardly run from Rove and co.
I am expecting a nauseating influx now!
i fear a shortage of lawyers in DC in 07 with all the subpoenas the new congress will give to Cheney, Rummy, Condi...
You're right...you cannot work with the current GOP any more than Social Democrats or Christian Democrats could work with National Socialists in the Weimar Republic. It's just not possible, because the GOP has made it very, very clear that they're out to trash the Constitution by any means necessary.
I think the Gingrich-Atwater-Rove nexus is key here.
Right now, GWB is getting in James Baker's face and screaming "More emmies!"
Molly
the teen will be a state rep?
Oh, lord no. The teen will be whatever she wants to be, which at this point a cartoonist.
TAIBBI
(on election night)
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/2900
Don't count Giuliani out.
He's got the corpse of Amidou Diallo to run on, as the Man Who Made New York Safe for Whitey.
This, more than 9/11, gives him cred with the base. He is, after all, outpolling McCain in Iowa.
Forty-seven shots, baby.
i fear a shortage of lawyers in DC in 07 with all the subpoenas the new congress will give to Cheney, Rummy, Condi...
Too bad Hecate doesn't do criminal law.
The other day, Merkin called her HELLCATE, which I thought was hysterical.
Oh, lord no. The teen will be whatever she wants to be, which at this point a cartoonist.
Molly
as long as the teen go vote democrat, it's fine
. The teen will be whatever she wants to be, which at this point a cartoonist.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
cool
that was just prognosticating on the political juggernaut
Somewhere in the 80's that totally changed. The shitbird Lanny Davis was on some talking head show last week and said that the GOP "Revolution" was in response to Democratic abuses in the 80's. He specifically cited special prosecutors as part of this, which is pure revisionist history, which is why Davis is going into the Duck Pit. The Reagan Administration openly shat on the Constitution with Iran-Contra, and it's been all downhill ever since....
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 11.11.06 - 2:43 pm |
Davis actaully said that?! What a wanker!
My parents, Eisenhower republicans, left the party in 1980, after Reagan got the nomination. They didn't live to see this, but I don't think they'd be surprised as to what's happened to the Republican party. And it sure as hell wasn't a response to Dem 'abuses' in the in the 1980's.
Ann Coulter made a big deal about this election not measuring up to historical standards.
She cites 1938 where Republicans gained 71 House seats and six Senate seats. However, Republicans only had 88 House seats and 18 Senate seats prior to the election so there gains gave them a majority in neither house.
1958, when Democrats gained 48 House seats and 13 Senate seats, Coulter neglects to account for several factors, including the age of incumbents, as factors against their re-election. There was also a liberal shift in the country that accounted for many gains also. Unemployment was very high. And, oh yeah, there were four more seats added to the Senate.
In 1966, again the Republicans gained 47 seats in the House but were still far from a majority.
In 1974. Democrats gained 49 seats in the House. Interestingly, the President of the United States, a Republican, has just resigned in disgrace.
In each of these examples, the Democrats had and maintained a majority of the seats in the House and Senate, making Coulter's analysis even less relevant to today's events.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 11.11.06 - 2:43 pm | #
I know you kids have a hard time undesrtanding this,.......
thanks for being so condescending...
lecture someone else....
Has anyone asked when populism stopped being an ideology yet?
Thinking here is that Waxman is the one most feared by the corporate controlled whores in congress. Waxman should try not flying unless with a lot of Repubs on board.
Forty-seven shots, baby.
Davis X. Machina
They were "highly-trained professionals", right?????
i fear a shortage of lawyers in DC in 07 with all the subpoenas the new congress will give to Cheney, Rummy, Condi...
Plum P | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 2:44 pm | #
oh, there'll be enough lawyers in DC, trust me.
What's going to be fun is to watch Bush and Cheney claim executive immunity from subpoenas. After the Clinton matter, they may very well have some ugliness from the Supreme Court they thought they bought.
Adultery May Be A GOP Family Value In 2008
(McCain and Guliani!)
Gingrich.
as long as the teen go vote democrat, it's fine
She was gloating that her wingnut history teacher was practically in tears on Wednesday. I think she's okay.
as long as the teen go vote democrat, it's fine
She was gloating that her wingnut history teacher was practically in tears on Wednesday. I think she's okay.
I think the Gingrich-Atwater-Rove nexus is key here.
It's going to be interesting to see if Rove continues to be a part of the equation. I think Poppy and his crew are more disgusted than ever, and I'm sure there are other repubs who are blaming him for what happpened on Tuesday.
Newtie can go crawl back into his hole. He's a known loser.
After the Clinton matter, they may very well have some ugliness from the Supreme Court they thought they bought.
Diane C.
HA HA HA! indeed
Maybe we'll actually get a real debate on this stuff for once.
A., this is just pathetic. This is as sad-eyed as my wistful dreams every Remembrance Day that somehow, somebody will pay attention to the Great War. Buck up, man! Economics is never going to be on the tip of anybody's tongue! We just have to live with the consequences of hyper-education and an interest in stuff that nobody else cares about!
Sheesh....
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Ann Coulter made a big deal about this election not measuring up to historical standards.
My long post at Echidne's blog got me a comparison to "Anne Couliter". I was confused until I read this:
1958, when Democrats gained 48 House seats and 13 Senate seats
Greens claim a bumper crop of 38 election victories this year. That's 38 in every race they ran in, not for Congress.
Some Greens don't care for facing the facts.
May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?
He is repulsive!
The Repug Party is either going to have to change or die.
It has been rejected. This entire movement has been rejected.
Ann Coulter made a big deal about this election not measuring up to historical standards
She needs to shut the fuck up.
Adultery May Be A GOP Family Value In 2008
Not to their partners, it isn't. Republicans are lousy lovers.
WOW, is Heywood J's post on the reality behind what our American politics has devolved into great.
"Like a bunch of catty high-school girls" is how he describes an early stage of the baseless rumor-mill process which, frighteningly, can and often does play a real part in media "events" which can profoundly affect all of our lives. And this is EXACTLY why the GOP loves to reduce real education and real debate to the lowest common denominator and very least activity possible: when average social and political discourse is at the level of sophmore highschool, they can push through just about any damned agenda they please.
May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?
Power.
Plus, they might have that Bush bald-head thing.
Populism never died
not in Canada at least
It juts gentrified, the NDP became an Urban party when all the farmer's went conservative around the trudeau era
At UCLA conferences, we actually have a guy who brings a bullwhip to keep people on track. It's about the only time things don't run over.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
By Godfrey, we knew how to do things right at UCLA!
Waxman should try not flying unless with a lot of Repubs on board.
Heh. They are expendable.
But someone else will step in to take over for Waxman if something should happen to him.
(I really hate even speculating about this.)
See youse later.
She was gloating that her wingnut history teacher was practically in tears on Wednesday.
Heehee!
what, Coulter didn't implode this week? And she's going to jail anyway, that illegal voting in Florida and stuff
Not to their partners, it isn't. Republicans are lousy lovers.
Selfish, sanctimonious and closeted does not a rewarding encounter make.
May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?
Maybe it's the lisp. If not that then cash appeal.
Jeremy
1988-2006
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May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?
Power and money.
For some people -- male and female -- that's enough.
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I can relate, GeorgeM.
[beware: micro-boredom ahead]
I blundered into the enchanting recreation of back-yard bird feeding this year. It began by hanging a seemingly-sturdy triple-tube feeder on a less-sturdy tree branch not far from my back door.
Then there was a turbulent middle period in which I rediscovered squirrels, and impulsively wasted money on useless liquid spray repellents, and allegedly squirrel-proof feeders-- one of which the squirrels destroyed by chewing away the plexiglass tube itself.
Then I finally decided it was stupid to try to prevent squirrels, and got this RollerFeeder™. So the squirrels are welcome to the stuff that falls out of the feeder, and the Peaceable Kingdom prevails.
huzzah to the good doctor
for calling today "remeberance day"
what, Coulter didn't implode this week?
What a load of shit. "They didn't win by that much." This, from the people who've claimed that 50.5% gives them the right to call us traitors.
I think the Gingrich-Atwater-Rove nexus is key here.
It runs deeper...Norquist and Viguire are two of the key players in mobilizing the fucktard base, and not just the fundies, although they're a key component.
The Freepi are interesting in this regard, because they're not particularly religious, they're more like updated Birchers. They're the original base. The God Squad got into it a bit later, that was the doing of Falwell and Robertson, with assists from Norquist and Viguire who were building a grand coaliton.
Reaction to the 60's, particularly the changes in sexual and racial mores is where all this comes from. Somehow these changes became equated with communism (nevermind that the USSR was and the PRC is notoriously puritanical) and that's what created the coalition of the Right.
GHWB was never in with this crowd, really (remember, he used to be called "Rubbers" because he supported Planned Parenthood) but Dim Son's "conversion" to Jeebus made him acceptable to the Fundies in a way that the Don never did.
Jeremy
1988-2006
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Lumpenprolitariot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 2:54 pm | #
I just finished a long breakfast with some friend this morning and the loss of pets was one of the main topics. The loss of such unconditional love is hugh. Sorry for your loss.
Good afternoon.
I've got some Bonus March over yonder...
And I won't be able to appreciate a tax cut until I get a fucking paycheck.
my sympathies Lumpenprolitariot. So young and good looking furry ball. Take care
(remember, he used to be called "Rubbers" because he supported Planned Parenthood)
That cracked me up. Wish he'd worn one.
1988-2006
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Lumpenprolitariot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 2:54 pm
a long, happy life...
now chasin' those pesky ardillas through the dappled forest of memory...
sorry for your loss...
you'll find another soon, brother...
McCaskill made some foolish statements during the campaign--said she "wasn't a liberal" at one point (she used to be); also said she'd vote for the flag desecration bill...bad signs. But, it is quite hard to believe she thinks Bolton is ok.
May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?
Power and money.
For some people -- male and female -- that's enough.
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Toonscribe, BlogJohn
I wouldn't let ANY of THAT crew TOUCH me.
Not for all the money in the world.
Yuk!
Even WWII doesn't get the attention it used to. Every year the focus on any particular conflict devolves more and more to the experts and aficionados. I dare say The Great War is as distant in the minds of most Americans as The Civil War. Soon WWII will join them in the world of "stuff from long ago."
Lumpenprolitariot:
My condolences.
But, it is quite hard to believe she thinks Bolton is ok.
Missouri Bird
Harry Reid will have a nice long chat with McCaskill soon enough. Let's not worry too much about it now.
Okay, I'm gonna stop brainstormin' and bullshit with y'all the rest of th afternoon. I've earned a break, this week.
Wanna see my new, pimped-out ride?
I've missed y'all... but great schemes are in the works. I'll be here a lot more in coming days and weeks. The ball is rolling towards complete self-sufficiency in the income department at Casa Curly, and I could NOT be happier.
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Edwina Rogers, ReNAMBLAcan spinner on MSNBC now - little Ed Rogers?
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Jeremy
1988-2006
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Even WWII doesn't get the attention it used to.
And yet groups like the VFW still look askance at Vietnam vets, and want nothing at all to do with Iraq/Afghanistan ones.
Aw...Lumpenproletariot...
Again, my condolences. That was a beautiful pup.
Sorry for your loss, Lumpenproletariat.
And the Strib's gotta piece about one of Atrios' favorite "Blue Dogs", Collin Peterson.
Grrr again.
Repukes, America has rejected you.
Even WWII doesn't get the attention it used to.
And yet groups like the VFW still look askance at Vietnam vets, and want nothing at all to do with Iraq/Afghanistan ones.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
And continue to support chickenhawk cowards like Bush.
I dare say The Great War is as distant in the minds of most Americans as The Civil War.
I was reading something this morning about the French commemoration in Paris -- there are only 4 French veterans of WWI left alive. Don't know how many American veterans are left.
Aww, Lumpen...
So sorry. Been a bad few weeks for Atriot pets.
Apprentice, don't you think that that whole mound of mushed-together shit is about to come apart? The Birchers and the God Squad never had much in common and they both seem like fair-weather fans--quick to stamp their feet and deny support out of spite if they feel like the team they're on isn't winning.
Jeffraham: what a fine pair of wheels! (and the glasses to go with it!)
you will get a surprise from Amazon this week...
"May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?"
It's gotta be the beady eye thing, and the sweaty thing, and the toupe thing, and the fascisto-lisp thing too.
And yet groups like the VFW still look askance at Vietnam vets, and want nothing at all to do with Iraq/Afghanistan ones.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
Good piece last night by Anderson Cooper who, despite some early Chimpwhoring about how the loss was Good For Republicans(tm), then focused on homeless Iraqi vets, showing how the Chimpster's administration "supports the troops" after they come home.
GHWB was never in with this crowd, really (remember, he used to be called "Rubbers" because he supported Planned Parenthood) but Dim Son's "conversion" to Jeebus made him acceptable to the Fundies in a way that the Don never did.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I have wondered for quite awhile just what Poppy's reaction was to Junior's "conversion." I have an idea that he was in on it. I have an idea that this coalition between the Repugs and the Religious Right was being built and they decided to plug CooCoo into it and see if they could make it work. They did. For awhile.
Repukes, you have been utterly rejected by Americans. Now go throw yourselves off a gorge...
So the squirrels are welcome to the stuff that falls out of the feeder, and the Peaceable Kingdom prevails.
Little Brøther
Bought this one from Target.
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The squirrels settle for the one they can get to easily
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Just heard that the US vetoed a UN resolution condemning Israel's excursion into Gaza this week.
Shock.
Bolton is soon out! Yeah!
I have wondered for quite awhile just what Poppy's reaction was to Junior's "conversion." I have an idea that he was in on it.
It's certainly plausible. Carlyle needed an electable warm body to sit in the chair, and may have overestimated Cheney's ability to avoid a repeat of Junior's pattern of fucking things up. The Chimpster doesn't go to church, so it's pretty clear his "born again" schtick is just a marketing ploy to get votes from the God Squad.
Even WWII doesn't get the attention it used to.
And yet groups like the VFW still look askance at Vietnam vets, and want nothing at all to do with Iraq/Afghanistan ones.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
And continue to support chickenhawk cowards like Bush.
Terry C, An American Again!
And why as a vet, I'll never set foot in a VFW or AL post, ever.
Even WWII doesn't get the attention it used to.
And yet groups like the VFW still look askance at Vietnam vets, and want nothing at all to do with Iraq/Afghanistan ones.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
And continue to support chickenhawk cowards like Bush.
Terry C, An American Again!
And why as a vet, I'll never set foot in a VFW or AL post, ever.
"And yet groups like the VFW still look askance at Vietnam vets"
HOW can this be? Man, the GOP running this country THRIVE on divisiveness.
I remember Agnew hissing about the "divissive" peacenicks.
One thing has crystalized, and that is that the overall GOP modus operandi invariably accuses others of their own exact pathologies.
And yet groups like the VFW still look askance at Vietnam vets, and want nothing at all to do with Iraq/Afghanistan ones.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was thinking back down on the lower thread when we were talking about WWII TV shows, that the only TV shows that emerged from the Korean and Vietnam Wars were about the medical corps and were vaguely and not so vaguely anti-war programs.
The American people were sick of the craven repukes and did something about it...
One thing has crystalized, and that is that the overall GOP modus operandi invariably accuses others of their own exact pathologies.
USA
Nonsense! If that were true, we'd be seeing things like a Republican chair of the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children turning out to be a sexual predator. Or something.
"May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?"
It's gotta be the beady eye thing, and the sweaty thing, and the toupe thing, and the fascisto-lisp thing too.
USA
I just had to force the vomit back down.
Last Wounded US WWI veteran dies at 108, (2004)
Surviving Great War Veterans. (2006)
test
It's certainly plausible. Carlyle needed an electable warm body to sit in the chair, and may have overestimated Cheney's ability to avoid a repeat of Junior's pattern of fucking things up. The Chimpster doesn't go to church, so it's pretty clear his "born again" schtick is just a marketing ploy to get votes from the God Squad.
The conversion itself was so staged - a coffees hop in west Texas. I don't know that Poppy was all that thrilled with Cheney from the start, but whatever that means, I have always thought that the whole Bush as Jesus thing was contrived to start with.
I have wondered for quite awhile just what Poppy's reaction was to Junior's "conversion." I have an idea that he was in on it. I have an idea that this coalition between the Repugs and the Religious Right was being built and they decided to plug CooCoo into it and see if they could make it work. They did. For awhile.
Also, Poppy is an Episcopalian. Back in his time in the Big House, many fundies were still intolerant of the catholic sects. See Pat Robertson circa 1994.
Nonsense! If that were true, we'd be seeing things like a Republican chair of the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children turning out to be a sexual predator. Or something.
Dr. Wu
Speaking of Vets, this clipping I saved. It is short but pretty much says it all:
"I'm torn," says Raf Noboa, a seven-year veteran of the U.S. Army. When he returned from a tour in Iraq's Sunni Triangle, he became active in the antiwar movement. He worked on Ned Lamont's primary campaign earlier this year and helped found a grassroots group called Iraq Veterans for Progress, which is not affiliated with either party.
"If you're going to have folks like me who are against the Iraq war, then obviously you're going to have random guys on the other side," Noboa told IPS. "The problem is that these guys help legitimate what is an illegitimate enterprise. It's an illegitimate enterprise politically and an illegitimate enterprise morally. I'm not a fan. You know what I'm saying?"
Speaking of Vets, this clipping I saved. It is short but pretty much says it all:
"I'm torn," says Raf Noboa, a seven-year veteran of the U.S. Army. When he returned from a tour in Iraq's Sunni Triangle, he became active in the antiwar movement. He worked on Ned Lamont's primary campaign earlier this year and helped found a grassroots group called Iraq Veterans for Progress, which is not affiliated with either party.
"If you're going to have folks like me who are against the Iraq war, then obviously you're going to have random guys on the other side," Noboa told IPS. "The problem is that these guys help legitimate what is an illegitimate enterprise. It's an illegitimate enterprise politically and an illegitimate enterprise morally. I'm not a fan. You know what I'm saying?"
Thanks, Plum.
I feel better today. I knew it was the right thing to do, but carrying him into the vets office, laying him on the table and petting him as he died was some kind of tipping point for me. All the death and chaos of the last 5 years seem to hit me at once as they picked him up to put him in a plastic bag.
Molly Ivins reads Atrios.... so everyone... including petty pigboy.. better be on their best behavior...
Ivins says she's "perfectly comfortable" with the idea that newsgathering will move to the Internet. You'll have still the same problems: Find out whether it's true, and put it in a package that's useful. "I think this so-called war or competition between bloggers and the mainstream media is just plain silly," she adds. "We all need to be supporting one another. I'm fond of many bloggers I read." She cited Atrios, DailyKos and Talking Points Memo.
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"May I ask what ANY woman sees in Guiliani?"
Radioactive sizemeat.
Trust fund babies hatched in think tanks say no to the point atrios makes.
They'll fight kicking and screaming.
Time to go see Babel. L8R.
Also, Poppy is an Episcopalian. Back in his time in the Big House, many fundies were still intolerant of the catholic sects. See Pat Robertson circa 1994.
Speaking of which, I see that the Catholic Defense League is claiming victory in the war on X-Mas. Some clod on NBC last night was kissing Wal-Mart's ass and calling it ice cream.
Are you all as tired of this as I am?
Lumpenprolitariot
Sorry for your loss.
Also, Poppy is an Episcopalian.
Technically, so am I. So is Prior Aelred and Robert Jeffers, so that ought to tell us quite a bit about how real this whole Come to Jesus thing is.
Episcopalians are generally rather anti-fundie. We did pick up that charismatic Episcopal movement back in the late 70s, early 80s. But that's still not to say that we ever even approached the fundie theology. We never have. Episcopalians do not take the bible literally.
that the only TV shows that emerged from the Korean and Vietnam Wars were about the medical corps and were vaguely and not so vaguely anti-war programs.
Tena
I was just talking to my old pal who's now Army Chief Historian/Korea about this. The best we could come up with was that Jim Rockford was a Korean War vet...
See, this election wasn't about our fears. For far too long that's been the repukes cynical ploy. No, it was about our hopes and dreams for the future and that was expressed by the American people less than a week ago. They said, enough is enough of the repukes, they've got to go. They sent a message: The shall not stand. So they woke up that Tuesday morning, bright-eyed, with a fresh hopeful but determined face and marched by their millions to make a difference and a statement; to reclaim their beloved American which had been stolen and wrest it back they did...
Plum P: you will get a surprise from Amazon this week...
Bless yore Canookie heart, girl!
You'll be getting a tiny li'l smile-maker from Curly shortly, too, btw.
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Jeremy
1988-2006
Peace.
Speaking of which, I see that the Catholic Defense League is claiming victory in the war on X-Mas. Some clod on NBC last night was kissing Wal-Mart's ass and calling it ice cream.
Are you all as tired of this as I am?
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr
I've been tired of this for years.
And William Donahue and his fellow Opus Dei zombies need to get lives.
Carlyle needed an electable warm body to sit in the chair, and may have overestimated Cheney's ability to avoid a repeat of Junior's pattern of fucking things up.
I don't think Caryle selected the shrub
But when we were putting the board together, somebody [Fred Malek] came to me and said, look there is a guy who would like to be on the board. He's kind of down on his luck a bit. Needs a job. Needs a board position. Needs some board positions. Could you put him on the board? Pay him a salary and he'll be a good board member and be a loyal vote for the management and so forth.
I said well we're not usually in that business. But okay, let me meet the guy. I met the guy. I said I don't think he adds that much value. We'll put him on the board because - you know - we'll do a favor for this guy; he's done a favor for us.
We put him on the board and [he] spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.
He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.
And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things.
http://prorev.com/bushcarlyle.htm
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Jeffraham:
Are we ready to go blow some Hamiltons on some SNPA?
Spouse of the house & I had a long shiraz-fueled dinnertable conversation last night about what's going to happen in the next 2 years in comparison to Watergate.
The climax of Watergate was Nixon's near-defiance of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court had ruled unanimously that he had to turn over the tapes & transcripts. Now Nixon was a smart man, a veteran, he knew the law, and he'd served in the federal government for years & years before this (Congress, VP). His evil advisors (Haldeman, Ehrlichman) were already gone. He had only his own resources, his education, his history, to turn to -- and he stalled and dodged, but eventually he surrendered to the will of the Court.
Now you know that in the next two years congressional investigations will lead to the Oval Office, and the investigators will issue subpoenas to get something -- don't know what yet -- from W. W doesn't have Nixon's personal resources -- he doesn't have a history of service, he doesn't have legal training, he doesn't have much intelligence, and you know damn well his evil advisors will still be in his ear even if they're in jail. What will W do when the special prosecutor goes to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court tells W to give him what he wants?
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Tena! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Got your love offering yesterday -- thank you, sweetheart! Courly's also got a li'l somethin'-somethin' coming your way next week. You already have a DVD, right?
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Are you all as tired of this as I am?
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr.
I'm honest to pete sick to death of two things: religion and flag-waving, eagle-soaring fake patriotism.
However, as I said yesterday, the War on Christmas is such a hoot that I don't want it to go away. I have just draped a nice faux holly on my machine gun nest on the roof and my anti-Santa missile system.
It's become part of the holiday tradition.
Finally, we get a pony!!
Episcopalians do not take the bible literally.
Tena
Traditionally, Piskies do not actually involve the Bible in their services. As United Presbyterians we do go overboard, what with the footnotes and all the cross references, but Piskies seem to prefer the Prayer Book. And congratulations on the election of the new Head Piskie -
Wearing multicolored vestments that represent a new dawn, Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori formally took office yesterday as the first woman to lead the Episcopal Church and promised to seek healing and wholeness in a denomination threatened by schism.
Jefferts Schori, 52, a pilot, rock climber and former oceanographer whose surprise election in June deepened existing rifts over homosexuality and the authority of scripture, did not delve into those issues in her opening sermon as presiding bishop. But she did call for peace, intoning the Hebrew word "shalom" no fewer than seven times.
Aw, JP - yay!
Thank you sweetie. It's the least I can do for all the Curly you so generously provide for us.
{{{mwaah!}}}
Anyone else getting this?
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The best we could come up with was that Jim Rockford was a Korean War vet...
Magnum P.I. was a Vietnam vet.
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the global war on christmas
fought in mosques and synagogues
Zap Rowsdower: Are we ready to go blow some Hamiltons on some SNPA?
If Sallyh will give her tacit approval, I'll get six on the way home, tonight. My cash (despite the generosity of y'all this month) is perilously low... $145 went to the TN Dept. of Safety, to "provisionally" reinstate my driving privs, and I had to give $111 to Uncle Phil as tribute on the blessings of scooterhood. Dang.
But, I think mo' monay is just around the corner -- I fret not.
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Magnum P.I. was a Vietnam vet.
We just put his pic up on our computer wallpaper last night.
Basically, if I have to follow one more fucking Jeep around, with a tire cover painted in huge ass eagles and flags and bullshit about our big balls, I'm going to ram the son of a bitch.
Feel the righteous anger of the American people, repukes...
Anyone else getting this?
Not so far today, but I have in the past.
god damn its beautiful and crisp here in austin.
finally feels like fall. blue skys shining on me , nothing but blue skys do i see'
sweet.
Then it accepts the next one.
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yep
threw my rhythym off
Jeffraham--the pimped out ride is teh cool!
And why do you need my consent to buy a six?
Basically, if I have to follow one more fucking Jeep around, with a tire cover painted in huge ass eagles and flags and bullshit about our big balls, I'm going to ram the son of a bitch.
Tena
Hummers do have some value.
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There is right and there is wrong and there is no way to compromise with those who would skim the cream off the top of the country, steal everything in sight, and wreck the place. There are things we need to do and it sounds like these folks don't get it, dammit to hell.
the A Team fought in vietnam
...and we're imprisoned for a crime they didn;t commit
these men promptly escaped froma military stockeade to the los angeles undergroungd
maybe the populists should join the Lieberman Party, he will be getting plenty of face time
Basically, if I have to follow one more fucking Jeep around, with a tire cover painted in huge ass eagles and flags and bullshit about our big balls, I'm going to ram the son of a bitch.
Ahhh.
I have the luxury of living in a "Liberal Oasis". Never see those unless I'm outstate or cruising the trendy parts of the Twin Cities.
Rep. Betty McCollum has her office right across the street from me.
Finally, we get a pony!! and speaking of ponies, where's holden?
I wish Molly Ivins would post here -
I've got nothing against Christmas. I would just like to chop it down from the maudlin, month-long orgy of consumerism it is to the one-day holiday it is supposed to be. Or maybe three days, tops. A long weekend, like 4th of July or Thanksgiving. I was in Macy's on Union Square in San Francisco the weekned after Halloween and they had Christmas decorations up already. I just wanted to take a flamethrower to the place.
Basically, if I have to follow one more fucking Jeep around, with a tire cover painted in huge ass eagles and flags and bullshit about our big balls, I'm going to ram the son of a bitch. Tena
I hope you have a cowcatcher grille.
There are an increasing number of Americans who refuse to worship war. This leads to a fear, in some, of the inexorable next step; that there will be a corresponding reduction in the worship of warriors. Already you can hear the somewhat forced invocations of phrases like "our brave men and women in uniform", or "the legions of heroes defending our precious freedoms." It all begins to sound archaic and formal like the challenge and response rituals in church. This doesn't mean that there isn't bravery or valor or heroism in soldiers, police and fire and just those in the right place at the right time who do the right thing, it's just our discourse has become formulaic and sloganeering. Lapel pins, SUV ribbons, small American flags - it's kitsch, and everybody knows it, and we're drowning in it and it's taboo to call bullshit on anyone who plays one of these claptrap cards.
Der Speigel--European Reactions
http://www.spiegel.de/
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It's a fresh new beginning for America and her people...
Tena: Thank you sweetie. It's the least I can do for all the Curly you so generously provide for us.
I've been showing people what I'm sending your way this week... I explain to them that this silly furball, Curly, has kept me from being homeless and unloved for over a year, and people look at me as if I had Ann Coulter's penis growing out of the middle of my forehead. Then I explain that I have the best friends anyone could hope to have, and that we are going to take care of our own, and it makes them nod, and want to get to know me as well as you do. It's awesome.
{{{mwaah!}}}
Back atcha, sweetie. Can y'all help me plan an eventual get-together here, for this spring? It'd likely be a everyone-pays-their-own-tab affair, but I might make a deal with the MTA to provide rides, and do some day tours of Gnashvegas. It's really a fun city, and will surprise folx who only know of it from TV and movies...
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'The Rev. Shawn Spear, a Brethren in Christ pastor in Hollidaysburg, Pa., knows at least part of what lies ahead for Haggard. After admitting he had an affair with a woman, Spear endured a painful yearlong separation from the ministry, went to counseling six times a month and worked to earn back the trust of his wife and his church.'
Shawn Spear sounds like a b list prono name...
Basically, if I have to follow one more fucking Jeep around, with a tire cover painted in huge ass eagles and flags and bullshit about our big balls, I'm going to ram the son of a bitch.
Tena
A guy serving in Iraq called in to Car Talk on NPR for advice on managing the extra couple tons of weight the Humvees carry when they add armor, overloading springs, ball joints etc.
Click and Clack couldn't offer much except lubricate, lubricate, lubricate, and replace parts before failure.
Problem is, there's getting to be more and more places there where you can't run down to the depot for replacement axles etc. without running a significant risk of rendering both the HMMWV and yourself good only for parts.
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"The falling leaves drift by the window..."
and I hope Johnny Mercer knows how much I miss him.
It's a fresh new beginning for America and her people... Ô¿Ô
That is the most jacklike you've been lately.
Feel the righteous anger of the American people, repukes...
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Wonder how many assholes in Highland Park who still had W stickers sent their maids out on Wednesday to scrape them off?
Shawn Spear sounds like a b list prono name...
Mr.Murder
B list GAY PRON
"The falling leaves drift by the window...
I have loved that song since I was about 2 years old.
"name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category."
See here, now, THIS is what is so disturbing. It MATTERS who and what our leaders are and DO. It AFFECTS every aspect of our lives. And ESPECIALLY when they are as INTRUSIVE as this ASSHOLE has been.
GrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
I am SICK of a government which sucks my blood and that of my loved ones. I want a government that WILL do something for me, and if not, will at LEAST LEAVE ME ALONE. Kennedy was right to suggest we not ask, and that we try to contribute, but Kennedy was an honest man, and you can only give so much when all the Government does is take.
We must seize this mandate. Period. There is no other alternative for ourselves, our loved ones, or our future. end/speech
Sallyh: And why do you need my consent to buy a six?
I'd be using your wonderful gift -- the bounty of the Kroger gift card -- to purchase them. I'm well-stocked in the pantry, Curly's got 17lbs. or more of kibble (just bought a bag a week or so, back), and I think I'm gonna be earning some cash in the coming week, by hook or by... well, I dunno. 
So, I seek your nod, wink or thumbs-up before I use the Kroger card to buy more beer. I already got the sixer of Redhook, and I'd feel like a guilty squanderer if I bought more without your okay.
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Students in California ban pledge of allegiance.
Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk!
Boy, this will get the idiots coming out of the cracks. This of course is more important the 800 thousand dead Iraqis and Murkans.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/...omo_code=2872-
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I wish Molly Ivins would post here -
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
She's going to be speaking at the University of Texas this week.
I'll post some pictures.
the insufferable libertarian troll is still here?
USA, Go Away
USA, Go Away
repeat as necessary
the insufferable libertarian troll is still here?
USA, Go Away
USA, Go Away
repeat as necessary
Wonder how many assholes in Highland Park who still had W stickers sent their maids out on Wednesday to scrape them off?
Tena
I think it depends on whether the stickers were there because the owners were trying to say "Wow, Bush is really doing a great job protecting us from terrorism, I really believe in him and I want everyone to know that!" or "Ha ha, fuck you, in your face, liberals!" The people who were trying to send the latter message, I think, are the ones who are most likely scraping 'em off now.
I already got the sixer of Redhook, and I'd feel like a guilty squanderer if I bought more without your okay.
Man...to live in a state where you can buy decent beer at a grocery store...
It's a foreign concept to me.
The Socialist Group of parliamentarians in the European Parliament, the body's second-largest group, hailed the results as "the beginning of the end of a six-year nightmare for the world."
Wonder how many assholes in Highland Park who still had W stickers sent their maids out on Wednesday to scrape them off?
I hate those bush loving assholes. I hope Darth-cheney gets goes into a rage when Charlie Rangel appropriates his posh office in the house office building.
Went into Cost Plus this morning and it was so swamped with "Christmas" paraphernalia that I thought I would drown - barely made my out of it. Appalling. I don't -want- any of the crap being sold or foisted, it's all dreadful and it does not make me cheerful or think at all kindly of le bon Dieu one damned bit. The whole 'season' plays on my last nerve to the point where I just about cannot guard my tongue at all - when the compassionate co-worker, convinced that I am the person on whom she will demonstrate her seasonal kindness begins to extend the gawdawful invitation to Thanksgiving Dinner, I am forced to explain that I celebrate each year by dressing up in a Pilgrim outfit and going downtown to share.... Is this nice?
Pfui - how long til Epiphany????
Apprentice, don't you think that that whole mound of mushed-together shit is about to come apart? The Birchers and the God Squad never had much in common and they both seem like fair-weather fans--quick to stamp their feet and deny support out of spite if they feel like the team they're on isn't winning.
Before I begin, let me say how much I hate Haloscan. It ate my previous reply to Dr. Wu, then proceeded to tell me I'd already said that.
The Bircher/Jeebus coalition was possible because of the 60's. They're not natural allies. They're both tools of the plutocrat country club crowd (like Poppy) who are the natural overlords of the GOP and have ever since that radical Lincoln conveniently was removed from the picture.
The 60's did three things, basically. You've got your sexual revolution, your civil rights revolution, and your Vietnam. Those three things came together in a perfect storm that really upset a lot of Americans, and created the climate for the "emerging Republican majority" which has been used to attempt to roll back FDR's accomplishments on the economic front, which is the only thing the plutocrats care about. They don't care about the invisible sky buddy, but he's useful to them in keeping the rabble under control. They're of course naturally against any move towards socialism (which is why they hate education for the masses so much) because as Orwell pointed out, when people have leisure time, they start thinking, and they start thinking they really don't need the people at the top anymore, and we can't have that!
Michael Lind has covered a lot of this in Up From Conservatism I recommend it to you all. I don't agree with everything (Lind seems to be a bit uptight about the 60's himself) but he and Thomas Frank (What's the Matter with Kansas?) have some valid points IMHO.
it's taboo to call bullshit on anyone who plays one of these claptrap cards.
Yes, but speaking out about how you feel is the most patriotic American thing you can do. It's called excersising your freedom, and it is what makes us Americans. It also takes a bit more than peeling a bumpersticker or wearing a lapel pin, so really it shows you do care.
"I have wondered for quite awhile just what Poppy's reaction was to Junior's "conversion."
Kissing up to the religious right was a Reagan and Poppy ploy. I can't believe that this sociopath had a religious conversion of any kind except the conversion to thinking he was God and should rule the world.
Wonder how many assholes in Highland Park who still had W stickers sent their maids out on Wednesday to scrape them off?
I'm wondering if I can finally remove the Kerry/Edwards sticker from my front door. I've always felt it had a "blood of the lamb" talisman quality.
Oh, my oral surgeon is a winger.
Lots of hunting pics and trophies.
He has fox news playing on the lobby tv.
I got to wait in his viewing room, next to his office, where he had a nice set of antler racks and hutning pics and firearms trophies and taxidermy ducks.
I heard him on the phone or talking with someone next door...
"Rumsfeld quite he wasn't fired..."
I mentioned to him on leaving that Rummy is afraid to face subpoenaes over lying about WMD and torture at Abu gharib.
He's getting out now so repub fence straddlers will not do the right thing and call him out in committee votes.
Perhaps he fears someone using his own statements about Halliburton investigations from his Congress days against him now... you could hear the guy's circuits singe. Several of his staffers and nurses came back to hear it... probably just to the look on his face.
onvinced that I am the person on whom she will demonstrate her seasonal kindness begins to extend the gawdawful invitation to Thanksgiving Dinner, I am forced to explain that I celebrate each year by dressing up in a Pilgrim outfit and going downtown to share.... Is this nice?
Yes, it is.
Since I'm not goinig to go out of town for Thanksgiving this year, I may volunteer meself.
And then have dinner with my best bud, Mr. Plushy. (he says he'll pop through the worm hole to bring you guys some pie.)
If you want to honor war veterans, make it so we never have any in the future.
Dr. Barmpot is a saint....just sayin'
I'm wondering if I can finally remove the Kerry/Edwards sticker from my front door. I've always felt it had a "blood of the lamb" talisman quality.
I think we should get bumperstickers that say "Kerry Was Right" just to rub some salt into the wound.
But then I'm mean that way.
(he says he'll pop through the worm hole to bring you guys some pie.)
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Us too?
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It also takes a bit more than peeling a bumpersticker or wearing a lapel pin, so really it shows you do care.
USA | 11
IS That A pledge pin on your uniform
Mickey the Kaus disses Waxman. Is there some kind of contest going on between Carville and Kaus for fuckwit of the week?
I still think the best way to go after the 'thugs, is RICO. Civil rights violations (voter suppresswion), and the criminal enterprise known as the K-Street Project.
Us too?
Wouldn't you prefer some nice oatcakes?
I can talk fourlegs into baking you some.
Kerry- right on the war, wrong on the Constitution.
You'd cut that enabler slack for the historically unethical endorsement of Bush from the start of this?
Mr. Murder - you said all this before or after your oral surgery appointment?
it's taboo to call bullshit on anyone who plays one of these claptrap cards.
Libertarians should be waterboarded before someone slips a noose around their pudgy necks.
the insufferable libertarian troll is still here?
USA, Go Away
USA, Go Away
repeat as necessary
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Not libertarian, not a troll. Left wing liberal Democrat, been here 4 years. We did this.
Americans hate wingnuts...
Mickey the Kaus disses Waxman. Is there some kind of contest going on between Carville and Kaus for fuckwit of the week?
they are trying to beat out Marty Peretz?
they are trying to beat out Marty Peretz?
I think they're competing for a window seat on the Rocket to the Sun.
Not libertarian, not a troll. Left wing liberal Democrat, been here 4 years. We did this.
you don't happen to have any bridges for sale, do you?
Wouldn't you prefer some nice oatcakes?
I can talk fourlegs into baking you some.
lion kitty Maxx
Oooooooooooooooh, oatcakes! Suet, too? And apple? Nummies!
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You'd cut that enabler slack for the historically unethical endorsement of Bush from the start of this?
I would remind you that Kerry worked very hard to raise millions of dollars for democratic candidates.
No offense, but I'm sick of the Kerry bashing. He's a good man who is on our side.
Episcopalians do not take the bible literally.
Tena
I remember being in the elementary-aged church school at Grace Episcopal and wondering at the perfunctory nature of our studies.
Of course it later provided a hilarious juxto to the unitarian/catholic and evangical of friends' experience...I thought they were all nuts!!
Oooooooooooooooh, oatcakes! Suet, too? And apple? Nummies!
Apples it is!
All's I know is that anyone who spends more than half their posts stating their credentials is tedious, regardless of troll-status.
I wouldn't have, if it wasn't being brought up.
Naptime!
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Wouldn't you prefer some nice oatcakes?
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that's what I call coaxing the pony
Of course it later provided a hilarious juxto to the unitarian/catholic and evangical of friends' experience...I thought they were all nuts!!
And you were right. They ARE all nuts.
the USA troll was earlier telling us how he hates the irrationality of taxes.
fucking Libertarian twit, the troll is clearly Live Free with a new handle.
you don't happen to have any bridges for sale, do you?
No, but if I run across one I'll let you know.
you can only give so much when all the Government does is take
"Left wing liberal Democrat" = Grover 'Joe Hill' Norquist
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No, I never went under that handle, sorry.
Kissing up to the religious right was a Reagan and Poppy ploy.
Well, more accurately, a Reagan-handlers and Poppy ploy.
Reagan was always a front man, which is what Fredo was supposed to be. Poppy is an actual "hands on" kind of guy, not to the extent of Jimmy Carter, who was trained as a know it all nuclear engineer by Hyman Rickover, which lead to his doom, but more in the terms of an executive who has some actual knowledge. Not a policy wonk like Clinton, by any stretch of the imagination, but still a lot more engaged in running things than Reagan ever was.
The SNL sketch of Reagan as a aimiable dunce for the cameras but a dynamo of hands on energy was hilarious because it was so obviously out of tune with the reality of things...Reagan was a full time aimable dunce.
Feingold is the only Senator who should get consideration for the next POTUS ticket.
It's why Carville is already carving up the turkee and trying to get Dean into a retaliatory sound byte.
Howard's learned the art of restraint and will play it low key when confronted with the issue. You'll be surprised how he changes the topic towards key domestic issues.
He should make the point that nobody questions health care for the troops, but some groups don't fulfill the obligation.
We need to expand this concern towards all Americans, we can model health care availabilty and pricing upgrades towards our troops as a way to help do the same for all americans.
Bring medicine costs down with bulk purchase power.
Oh, since everyone says "President Bush" or "Senator McCain" we need to say "Dr. Howard Dean" and emphasize his health care expertise.
You saw how James Webb turned the corner from foreign policy towards socioeconomic concerns. Let's see every Democrat find a way to do that. Take an issue of the war and contrast it to similar concerns in your local/nsational races.
Carvilel thinks he called Dean out. Howard should not hammer him, he should keep his focus on the message.
Comparing me to Grover Norquist is like comparing a volkswagen to a 40' tractor trailer. We are both people, but the comparison ends there. I have no idea what anyone has invested in saying I am anything other than what I am or the reason for this "purity test".
The Feral Burros
That reminds me of my last duty station in 1975. China Lake. We went out into the hills for some testing, and there were lots of burros running around out there
They don't care about the invisible sky buddy
Show me one really wealthy person who does really believe in Jesus, and I'll show you a wealthy fool.
Just as I truly think that anyone who claims to be Unitarian Republican (yes, I've actually met one) is very confused, I truly think that really rich people don't give one shit about Jesus. while claiming otherwise.
I just don't buy the premise that all those Highland Park Baptists and Methodists really go to church for their souls. It's a generalization, I should be shot for it - it's broad and I'm sure it's unfair.
Can't help it.
IS That A pledge pin on your uniform
DROP AND GIVE ME TWENTY!
We are both people, but the comparison ends there.
You both say stupid things.
you will spend tonite and every night in the stable
Perhaps, but my party kicked his partys ass up and down the country, so really I think the things I say are far less stupid than the things he says.
I have no idea what anyone has invested in saying I am anything other than what I am or the reason for this "purity test". USA
Then why are you still going on about it? I don't care how long you've been here or what your political views are, the only people who spend this much time obsessing over their reception here eventually melt down into trolls, which is why so many people have tagged you. Give it a rest.
He can't do that to our Pledges. Only WE can do that to our Pledges.
No, I am simply responding. And one cannot melt down into something one never was to begin with.
double roll of sheets
Bush at 31%...
Then why are you still going on about it?
JeffCO
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Because it's a troll.
This has been another in a continuing series of simple answers to simple questions.
(or maybe a meth head, since it will not shut the fuck up.)
No, I am not a troll, nor a meth head, and I will say what ther fuck I please.
The Chimpster doesn't go to church, so it's pretty clear his "born again" schtick is just a marketing ploy to get votes from the God Squad. -
Dr. Wu
That, or they can't sober him up from Saturday night.
I'm wondering if I can finally remove the Kerry/Edwards sticker from my front door
I found an old Dean For America sticker in my desk the other day, so I'm going to replace the Kerry/Edwards sticker on my car with that...he's done more to bring about the current happy state of affairs than Kerry (or Edwards, for that matter) and he seems to know well enough to not try to tell stupid jokes.
Last night on Lou Dobbs he actually talked about the war on the middle class. Lou was very thoughtful and informative, like journalists are supposed to be. Jim Webb was a guest, and Webb was very populistic in his tone, which was nice to hear. The Clinton DLCers squashed the thought of left wing economics in the 1990's, basically agreeing with the GOP on everything. It was BS then, and it's BS now.
Bush Administration, Dying at the Border
This is from “Skeptical Economist”. This is the one of the best articles I have ever read on economics and illegal immigration.
It is no secret that the Bush administration is failing and failing badly. The woes of the administration are legion, Iraq, immigration, the economy, Katrina, health care, gasoline prices, etc. The impact on public opinion is profound. Bush is well on his way to being one of the least popular presidents in U.S. history. His current popularity rating of 31% may be a high water mark. The twenties and perhaps teens are not that far off. Increasingly he has lost, not just liberals and mainstream Americans, but conservatives as well. The key question is why? Why has this once promising administration gone downhill so far and so fast? Is it just bad luck or is their a deeper force at work? In my view, the ideology and practice of Open Borders has condemned this president to complete failure. Could the Bush administration turn itself around by changing its stance on immigration? Yes, but it is exceedingly unlikely to happen. Bush is doomed and may not finish his term in office.
It is clear that the immigration polices of this administration are deeply unpopular and contrary to what the public wants. Clearly, immigration is contributing mightily to the low standing of this president. However, immigration is also directly responsible for the economic failings of this president and is (one step removed) also responsible for the debacle in Iraq. Immigration is also partially responsible for all of the other problems (Kartrina, gasoline prices, health care, Dubai ports, etc.). The links between immigration and what ails Bush (and America) are explained in more detail below. What should be clear by the end, is that immigration is either directly or partially for everything (and there is a lot) that is weighing down this president.
The immigration failures of this administration are obvious. The border is totally out of control and Bush completely refuses to even try to control it. Ordinary Americans are demanding immigration control and Bush has abandoned even the pretense of enforcing our laws (by some measures enforcement has declined by 95% at least, but other measures 100%). Ordinary Americans fiercely resent illegal aliens taking over their neighborhoods, jobs, and schools. Bush actually proposed legislation to replace every American worked with a foreigner who would do the same job for less (the “willing worker” program).
To call the administration out of touch on immigration would be an injustice to the language. Polls show strong support for greatly intensified enforcement. Bush is still trying to have the Kennedy Amnesty bill passed. Why the administration is so committed to policies that the American people regard as toxic is another matter. However, the reality of a president at war with his own people on this issue, should not be in doubt. Astoundingly, Zogby finds
god, what a wanker. What exactly does Claire say that's so troubling??? She's quoted for all of two or three sentences with nothing that seems remotely shocking to me. Yes, she acknowledges many in DC have to play to all Blue or all Red areas. So what?
I saw Claire speak the night she won and she was easily one of the most well-spoken and honest politicians I had seen in some time. give it a rest, worry boy.
What exactly is it about these Senators that has an "economic populiust streak"? What are they proposing to do that our former bunch of 44, wouldn't do if they had a majority?
I do see some resistance to trade, from general skeptics like Mcaskill to outright reactionaries like Brown,. but for the most part, It's a bunch vagely centrist - center-left propositions, mixed with some pooh-poohing of partisanship and rhetoric about Good Government.
Basically, the old class + 6 more.
Actually, from Duncan's post, concerning economic vs. social issues, I've always considered the two, virtually, one and the same.
For me, economic justice is a HUGE part, the major part, of social justice AND a major part of civic responsibility.
For this Congress, fencing with windmills by emphasizing 'social issues' AS social issues would be a catastrophe.
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