I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarPelosi!


GravatarConyers!


GravatarRazorbacks!


GravatarI'm out of breath and my knees are killing me. What happened to the train thread?

gwb:drf


GravatarNo more Lexapro!


GravatarMatthew Sweet!


Gravatar[shakes fist, withholds Curly]
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GravatarIMFUCKINGPEACHMENT


GravatarHitler's Thousand Year Reich

and

Gingrich's Permanent Republican Majority

They both lasted 12 years.
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GravatarTPM

Razorbacks/Gators sec championship?


GravatarI love all the handwringing and concern about Dem chairpersons. They would have to burn the capitol down to be more damaging to the institution and government than the GOP were.


GravatarThe repukes will never gain control of Congress again. Maybe they will the presidency with some charasmatic dunce in my lifetime but never Congress again.


Gravatar11/7 Changed Everything!

Deal with it, brownshirts...


GravatarThis is why I'm looking forward to Pelosi's first 100 hours.

I expect her approval rating to rise above 40% quickly after that. Unlike W.'s.


Gravatarbut most of that was the post-9/11 era where they basically let Bush control everything.

PATRIOT ACT.......REPEAL!!!!!


GravatarScooteraham Jeffratonian, for those who missed the good, good news...
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GravatarThe Democrats get to govern, without being restrained by the neo cons. Tanks god!


GravatarYeah, good thing that Dem-controlled Senate full of heroes like Kerry and Edwards and Clinton blocked that Iraq War Resolution.


GravatarJeffraham, that curly is one fine looking tiger cat.


GravatarAs soon as Bush started regularly lying in SOTU addresses without a peep of complaint from congress, I knew the GOP had completely abdicated their constitutional role.

It will be nice to see the institution of congress yank back some of that which had been yielded by the rightists.


GravatarMatthew Sweet! TinyPorcelainMouse

I've been listening to Girlfriend this week. Damn that's a fine album!


GravatarIt is quite freaky to realize that since 1995, except for a few months in 2001, the Democrats haven't controlled either the House or Senate.

Yes, and that explains why everything that has happened since the 2000 election is all their fault -- and good for the Republicans.
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Gravatarhttp://cbaker.org/blog/bush-mccain.jpg

http://cbaker.org/blog/bush-mccain.jpg


Gravatar Yeah, good thing that Dem-controlled Senate full of heroes like Kerry and Edwards and Clinton blocked that Iraq War Resolution.

Who called them 'heroes', clod?


GravatarI guess Some Dude hasn't been paying attention, as Edwards, last time I checked, isn't in the Senate.

come back when you wake up, troll.


GravatarWho called them 'heroes', clod?

He got a brand new USB iStrawman from Amazon.com. It talks.


GravatarAs soon as Bush started regularly lying in SOTU addresses without a peep of complaint from congress, I knew the GOP had completely abdicated their constitutional role.

It will be nice to see the institution of congress yank back some of that which had been yielded by the rightists.
underwhelm, gloaty


Yeah, in addition to every fucking thing else, they broke Congress. And we have to fix it.

Jesus fucking christ, I'm so sick of this.


GravatarYeah, good thing that D--

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...


GravatarAnd I'm currently listening to the best album recorded in the 90's: Neutral Milk Hotel's In The Aeroplane Over the Sea.


Gravatarfluffy little clouds cloying cloisters curling in your dhim looserness you dhims are all dhoomed bvd ascap nimby uaw pms mst3k msg iokiyar.

I can keep doing the abbreviations forever, btw.


GravatarNo more Lexapro!

HUZZAH!


GravatarI see my fiance's here.


GravatarTPM

Razorbacks/Gators sec championship?
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | 11.11.06 - 4:04 pm | #

Matthew Sweet! TinyPorcelainMouse

I've been listening to Girlfriend this week. Damn that's a fine album!
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:08 pm | #


Mrs...Unless there's a monumental meltdown.

JC...Along with about three other CD's from the 90's, not a bad song on it.


GravatarI see my fiance's here.

Aw, how sweet. But something tells me the honeymoon's over before it began.


GravatarNo more Lexapro!

HUZZAH!
watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:11 pm | #


Pinch me WT.


No, seriously, pinch me.


GravatarThis is why I'm looking forward to Pelosi's first 100 hours. I expect her approval rating to rise above 40% quickly after that. Unlike W.'s. Rmj

O'Donnell on McLaughlin yesterday predicted that if she allows Alcee Hastings to take over the Intelligence Committee, they will lose the House in 2008. Something about not being serious about reform.


GravatarI've been listening to Girlfriend this week. Damn that's a fine album!
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:08 pm | #


My second favorite CD this year is the 60s cover album by Sweet and Susanna Hoffs.

Wow!!!!!


GravatarBefore the Vietnamese War two Senators voted against the Tonking Gulf Resolution.

Senator Morse and Gruening refused to be stampeded by the LBJ administration.

They were right and everyone else was wrong. You would think that the Senate would have considered that before giving the depraved moron the power to make war in Iraq.

Very few ever pay attention to history. And so it's repeated ad nauseum.....


GravatarSeems to me, Democrats have been cleaning up after Repugs for most of my adult life.

Gets old, it does.


Gravataryes I was listening to the song "girlfriend" lately too


GravatarSome dude sucked my dick.


GravatarScooteraham Jeffratonian, for those who missed the good, good news...

You got a helmet for that thing?


GravatarThat should have been, "The Tonkin Gulf," not "Tonking."

My bad.


GravatarJeffCO

it seems the Harman thing is gonna have to be the first issue Pelosi has to deal with. the Usual Suspects have decided to see how much arm twisting Pelosi is willing to put up with.

hey hey ho ho
Jane Harman has got to go.


GravatarMy second favorite CD this year is the 60s cover album by Sweet and Susanna Hoffs.

Wow!!!!!
steve simels |


Is Cinammon Girl on that?


(I haven't posted in so long since I got the smackdown from ror, I have forgotten how to italicize.)


GravatarOkay, Duncan Hack has forced me to rewhore my thing about Ann Coulter.


GravatarO'Donnell on McLaughlin yesterday predicted that if she allows Alcee Hastings to take over the Intelligence Committee, they will lose the House in 2008

Don't know about you guys, but I always base all my votes, even for local judges, on who is chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
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GravatarI see my fiance's here.

To quote an obscure Tubes' song:

Pimp! Can't you control your bitches?


GravatarVery few ever pay attention to history. And so it's repeated ad nauseum.....

The hysteria and mass insanity brought about by 9/11 caused a lot of people to forget the lessons of Vietnam, I'm afraid.


GravatarGets old, it does.
Tena

If it wasn't for greed, stupidity and deceit, the Gooper party wouldn't even exist!


Gravatarsteve - if you haven't found your Ohio Express tune yet, I can hook you up. do you still have the same old crappy email account?


GravatarYeah, good thing that Dem-controlled Senate full of heroes like Kerry and Edwards and Clinton blocked that Iraq War Resolution.
Some Dude



Your concern has been noted.


GravatarI always base all my votes, even for local judges, on who is chair of the House Intelligence Committee.

I've already requested my absentee ballot for 2008 to vote straight Fascist party.


GravatarI thought about that too. More importantly, there has been no rationale oversite done iin 12 years either. The republicans went hog wild on Clinton making a mockery of this Congressional responsibility. Alternatively, the dems had nothing to investigate from the summer of 2001 to 9/11 because Bush hadn't had enough time in office to raise the millions of flags that later pointed to the most extreme corruption.

I imagine that such a regime would have begun in October 2001 with the corporate scandals giving the dem senate a reason to hold real investigation into Bush's Harkin shenanigans. But, alas, 9/11 changed everything and dems limited their corporate scandal investigation to companies rather than the republican criminal gang that paved the way for them.

Without 9/11 the corporate scandals (with Harkin and Enron) would have crippled an already shaky administration. Combine that with the recession and the general rule that the white house incumbant loses seats in the midterms and Bush almost certaintly would have lost the House in 2002. Instead, Bush leveraged the country's fear and good will into an 8 seat pickup.


GravatarJust in time for Veterans' Day:

ALS connected to military service during the Gulf War I:
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...-i- service.html

And that was without the depleted uranium dust that coats all of Iraq in this war.


GravatarYour concern has been noted.

Yes, this is the official new response.

Though I always liked "That's nice, dear," too...


GravatarHere ya go, dith.


GravatarOne thing that happened in the last six years that never happened before, at least in my lifetime, was a total abdication of the oversight role of Congress that every President before had to deal with.

I mean, LBJ came from the Senate, was a master of moving legislation about, yet faced uphill battles dealing with a Congress that was dominiated by his party.

Not to mention all the grief that Jimmy Carter had to put up with.

Then there's Clinton, who could not get things through in the two years his party was in control of Congress.

The notion of "divided government" that the talking head morons are pushing didn't used to be tied to party, but they seem to think that it always has been, when historically it hasn't been an issue of party.


GravatarIs Cinammon Girl on that?


(I haven't posted in so long since I got the smackdown from ror, I have forgotten how to italicize.)
TinyPorcelainMouse | 11.11.06 - 4:16 pm | #


Yep. Very cool version...

My favorite things on it, however, are the Velvet's "Sunday Morning" and
"Monday, Monday", both of which Hoffs sings the very beejesus out of. Just a gorgeous record overall....


GravatarMandatier. Trademark it before that whore Colbert steals it.


Gravatargreenwald has a great bit about the Harman/HIC kerfufle, as being currently played out by the right/center Usual Suspects. funny.


GravatarHi ho, Steverino!

Did you make it down to your local Tower?

I can't step into the place, myself. Too fucking painful...


GravatarOops!


This for dith and the other trolls:

http://thumbsnap.com/v/ua9kVi1P.jpg


GravatarBye for now.

Off to rake up some leaves before it rains on them.

Imagine that -- rain in the beautiful west San Fernando valley. Will wonders never cease...

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GravatarAs much as I am happy that the Dems have won, I really do not envy them their job.

Chimpy has fucked up the country, and the world. He has all but bankrupted the country, and managed to get 2 more idiots onto the supreme court. He has 150,000 bogged down in Iraq. If you stay, you are fucked, if you pull them out you are fucked.


GravatarJust a gorgeous record overall....


I love gorgeous overall records.

Two that are musts: Willie's "Spirit" and John Prine's "Fair and Square"


GravatarYour concern has been noted.

Yes, this is the official new response.

Though I always liked "That's nice, dear," too...
dave©™


I like the invitation to blow someone, too, but being female I can't use that one.


Gravatar Seems to me, Democrats have been cleaning up after Repugs for most of my adult life.

Whaaa???

Ungrateful bastards keep asking for answers and someone to be held accountable for how fucked this country's become....

Ungrateful.


GravatarNo, seriously, pinch me.

*pinch*

"mandatier." I like it.


Gravatarhey hey ho ho Jane Harman has got to go. mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari

Perhaps, but surely Pelosi can find a qualified Dem who *hasn't* been impeached in a bribery scandal to take over?


GravatarIf Pelosi and Reid and the Democrats do as advertised (raise minimum wage, provide congressional oversight to Bushboy's follies, rescind tax cuts for Big Oil, etc.), the Goopers will be reduced to a regional party in the South, totally dependent on Evangelicals as their "base."

Maybe then, we can put the entire Gooper party in a bath tub and drown it.


GravatarMy favorite things on it, however, are the Velvet's "Sunday Morning" and
"Monday, Monday", both of which Hoffs sings the very beejesus out of. Just a gorgeous record overall....


I've gotta go buy that. "Sunday Morning" is one of my favorite songs.


Gravatarsteve - if you haven't found your Ohio Express tune yet, I can hook you up. do you still have the same old crappy email account?
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:17 pm | #



You can? You could?

Tres cool...

Yes, same e-mail addy......


GravatarAs much as I am happy that the Dems have won, I really do not envy them their job.



I want to see a political cartoon with an elephant standing over a big pile of steaming shit whilst a group of donkeys are walking up with shovels cocked over their shoulders.


GravatarGOP strategist Brad Something on MSNBC a few minutes ago was asked about Karl Rove in the 2008 "Noooo" he said like Darth Vader in that last Star Wars movie.

Calming down, he predicted that Rove would be heading the Bush Library (!) ans School of Government (!?!). The Dem strategist, Flavia Something, started laughing "Karl Rove the librarian!" barely stifling a snort.

The W School of Government--I'd request my degree from there be kept classified


Gravatar"mandatier." I like it. watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:22 pm | #

I knew there was something I liked about you. From last thread:
Mandatier? I like it! JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:03 pm | #


GravatarI knew there was something I liked about you. From last thread:

Okay, that's just EERIE!!!


GravatarAFternoon, batsies.

What's going to be very interesting is where the Dems are gonna find qualified staff for all the committees they're gonna control. All those folks found new jobs a decade ago.


GravatarDid you make it down to your local Tower?

I can't step into the place, myself. Too fucking painful...
dave©™ | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:19 pm | #



Yeah. Everything I wanted was long gone...bummer, since I had really started craving the expanded version of Cale's "Paris 1919."


GravatarI like the invitation to blow someone, too, but being female I can't use that one.
Terry C, An American Again!


You could offer to do them with the strap-on


GravatarPerhaps, but surely Pelosi can find a qualified Dem who *hasn't* been impeached in a bribery scandal to take over?

zing.

Hastings has seniority. Harman has already been bumped up once. she has sucked with a capital S.

and employing a small army of folks to very publicly pressure Pelosi is just stupid.


GravatarAnother wanker of the day: Garrison Keilor.

He just opened up a bookstore across the street from me and won't sell some old picture of St. Paul because it's from his "personal collection".

Why put it in your bookstore, wanker?


GravatarOne thing that happened in the last six years that never happened before, at least in my lifetime, was a total abdication of the oversight role of Congress that every President before had to deal with.

O I agree. They didn't break it all at once; it took awhile, until they got CooCoo and the majority. Then it was Katie bar the gate (as my mom was so fond of saying.) They just picked it up on both hands and said: "here" and handed it to that fucking little shit and his fucking evil VP and his fucking evil advisor. And Grover Norquist, and Perle, and all the rest.

I hates them. I really really do.


GravatarWhat's going to be very interesting is where the Dems are gonna find qualified staff for all the committees they're gonna control.

¿Where do I send my résumé?


GravatarHitler's Thousand Year Reich
and Gingrich's Permanent Republican Majority

They both lasted 12 years.

Brendan

And both did a lot of damage.


GravatarFlory,

Well, I'm available for $100K+ a year.

A bargain.


GravatarIf Rove et al had just governed honestly and decently, they might have maintained repuke control but they just couldn't help being mean assholes about it like their slavish Freepi minions.


Gravatarbecause Bush hadn't had enough time in office to raise the millions of flags that


Just the fact of Bush's name ought to have galvanized opposition, and it did especially among those of us who saw the 2000 fiasco as an indication of worse to come. That election was the worst thing that ever happened to this country besides 9/11 in this generation. We let the less aware let this fucker in the door, and now we all pay. Many of us knew it was going to be bad, we just didn't know how bad. Now we do.


GravatarI like the invitation to blow someone, too, but being female I can't use that one.
Terry C, An American Again!

You could offer to do them with the strap-on
____league


Nah - I don't wanna imitiate Condi Rice in ANY way, shape or form.


GravatarI for one would like to see Bushboy grovel.

The Dems don't have to impeach the depraved moron. All they have to do is investigate the war crimes by Gooper officials and the corporate embezzlement of the Defense Dept.

It will piss the American people off so much, Bushboy will beg them to stop!


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

He comes from a land where the men are men, the women are women, and the photographs are display only.


Gravatarbut most of that was the post-9/11 era where they basically let Bush control everything.

PATRIOT ACT.......REPEAL!!!!!
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr.


WORD!


Gravatar¿Where do I send my résumé?

Spitzer has a website where you can enter your resume directly and apply all in one shot. Google it.


Gravatar¿Where do I send my résumé?

Spitzer has a website where you can enter your resume directly and apply all in one shot. Google it.


GravatarMarty Peretz:

And Friday, according to an article by John Hemming from Reuters, Khameini that the defeat of the Republicans on Tuesday was a victory for Iran. Let's hope that the Democrats don't make it so.

One way to prevent this from seeming to be objectively true would be to have Nancy Pelosi end her ugly and personal vendetta against Jane Harman as the chair of the House Intelligene (sic) Committee. But, let's face it, it will take more than that. Much more.


Gravatarstars cosmic vapors vicks vaporub vagina dentata you dhims are all dhoomed in your dhiminess a loosering proposition rsvp nrbq afl-cio nafta cafta obgyn madd.

I can keep doing the abbreviations forever, btw.


GravatarJust the fact of Bush's name ought to have galvanized opposition, and it did especially among those of us who saw the 2000 fiasco as an indication of worse to come. That election was the worst thing that ever happened to this country besides 9/11 in this generation. We let the less aware let this fucker in the door, and now we all pay. Many of us knew it was going to be bad, we just didn't know how bad. Now we do.

If you look at Bush's approval ratings from Feb 01 to Aug 01 you will see that the American people were not all that thrilled with him and were becoming less thrilled as the year went by.

http:// www.pollkatz.homestead.co...98_image001.gif


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

Woe...BEGONE!


GravatarBring back Habeas Corpus!


GravatarJP - Whoohooo!


GravatarFlory,

Well, I'm available for $100K+ a year.

A bargain.
watertiger


Eclairs for all!!!

Seriously -- they could prolly do worse than wander around the fever swamps. There's a lotta policy expertise on these here internets.

What they need tho, is political expertise, and that's what the Dems don't have in Washington anymore.


GravatarHe comes from a land where the men are men, the women are women, and the photographs are display only.

You forgot the "above average" bit...


GravatarWoe...BEGONE!
NT'odd (Mandatier)

Sounds like a spray for depression.

Having a bad day? Boss unreasonable? Girlfriend pissed off? Spray Woe..Begone directly to forehead!


GravatarGreat, the elections have been held, and the protection rackets in the media have ratcheted down someone. May we please now begin to have a discussion of the raping of women and boys at Abu Ghraib? Perhaps Chris Shays can be the first person empanelled to explain his bizarre remarks claiming that Abu Ghraib was a "sex ring."

I mean Jesus on a stick, if we can all get worked up about the teen pages being endangered via IMs, maybe we can shed a tear or two for the Iraqi boys our soldiers buggered as a matter of course.


GravatarHey Zap, does Table of Contents still exist in either Minneapolis or St Paul?


GravatarIf Rove et al had just governed honestly and decently, they might have maintained repuke control but they just couldn't help being mean assholes about it like their slavish Freepi minions.

They were never interested, at all, in governing.

They want to rule. It's all this obscene monarchical divine right crap that was EXPLICITLY rejected by the Founders.

These people hate the Enlightenment, and all its fruits. To include the Constitution of the United States. This is why there is a war on science on at the moment. Darwinism is another fruit of the Enlightenment.

Hell, they even hate Adam Smith. Or would, if they ever actually read The Wealth of Nations.


GravatarNah - I don't wanna imitiate Condi Rice in ANY way, shape or form.
Terry C, An American Again!


Good point.


GravatarNah - I don't wanna imitiate Condi Rice in ANY way, shape or form.
Terry C, An American Again! | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:29 pm | #

Thanks for the image of Condi with a strap-on.

Now I won't be able to have sex ever again. Even with myself.


GravatarI've gotta go buy that. "Sunday Morning" is one of my favorite songs.
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr


Yeah.

But there's hardly anything on that first VU album I don't absolutely love.


GravatarWhat they need tho, is political expertise, and that's what the Dems don't have in Washington anymore.

What they're fucking lacking is common sense. Street smarts.

They're so busy trying to outfox each other for title of "king of the mountain" that they've completely lost sight of what the mountain is.


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

He comes from a land where the men are men, the women are women, and the photographs are display only.
underwhelm, gloaty | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:29 pm | #

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and the children are all above average.


GravatarHaving a bad day? Boss unreasonable? Girlfriend pissed off? Spray Woe..Begone directly to forehead!

Not sanctioned by the Duct Tape Advisory Board.

Woe...BEGONE!
NT'odd (Mandatier)


BOOOO!!!!


GravatarYou can? You could? Tres cool... Yes, same e-mail addy...... steve simels

Done and done.


GravatarOne way to prevent this from seeming to be objectively true would be to have Nancy Pelosi end her ugly and personal vendetta against Jane Harman as the chair of the House Intelligene (sic) Committee.



Why do these assholes think Nancy Pelosi either needs or wants their advice?


GravatarThe Dems don't have to impeach the depraved moron. All they have to do is investigate the war crimes by Gooper officials and the corporate embezzlement of the Defense Dept.

Very likely.

And why do I keep reading that one reason Rummy stepped down is he doesn't want to deal with two years of Congressional investigations. Hunh? He thinks he can't get subpoenaed just because he's off the payroll?


(and wtf is dith on about today?)


GravatarI mean Jesus on a stick, if we can all get worked up about the teen pages being endangered via IMs, maybe we can shed a tear or two for the Iraqi boys our soldiers buggered as a matter of course.
Mr Blifil |

Germany is working on it:
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...nst-top- us.html


GravatarY'know, this Maxwell House commercial isn't that good.

Instead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".


GravatarI mean Jesus on a stick, if we can all get worked up about the teen pages being endangered via IMs, maybe we can shed a tear or two for the Iraqi boys our soldiers buggered as a matter of course.

As Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

All the screaming by the whiny republicans isn't going to change that fact or save their asses.


GravatarHell, they even hate Adam Smith. Or would, if they ever actually read The Wealth of Nations.

Yeah, I always quote a section of On Rent when ExxonMobil announces their quarterly profits. It damns their notion of "free market"...


GravatarI'm going to call BellSouth to cancel my DSL subscription. I have dial-up here but it's alright. And with high-speed at work, anything I might want to watch I can there...


GravatarHe thinks he can't get subpoenaed just because he's off the payroll?

Can't force him to appear if he is not in the country.


GravatarInstead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".
watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:36 pm | #


You go, girl.


GravatarI see the Sweet/Hoffs Under the Covers '60s retro album is available for $5.19 at Amazon. Better yet I see it has violin and string arrangements by actual loony '60s holdover Van Dyke Parks.

Parks has never had to reach far to be eccentric. On his Tokyo Rose album, he has a song where Thomas Edison and Henry Ford debate '80s US trade policy looking down from heaven. He does both voices.


GravatarInstead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".
watertiger

Dear god, now they are advocating torture with our daily cup of coffee?


GravatarCan't force him to appear if he is not in the country.

I hear Paraquay is nice this time of year.


GravatarDid I also mention it's cheap as hellhere ($9) and free at work?


Gravatardoes Table of Contents still exist in either Minneapolis or St Paul?

Dunnfur. Just closed this spring.

I'm jazzed that Garrison opened this bookstore; cause it's one of about four or five indy's left in the TC's.

And it's a great store, don't get me wrong. Lotsa local stuff.


GravatarI keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".

[experiences shrinkage]


GravatarParaguay


GravatarIf Rove et al had just governed honestly and decently, they might have maintained repuke control but they just couldn't help being mean assholes about it like their slavish Freepi minions.
*****************************

republicans don't really deal in policy at all. they just have schemes.


GravatarHelen Caldicott is on c-span2 BookTV now, from September at Georgetown.

I'd vote for her on any ticket.
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GravatarThe Dems don't have to impeach the depraved moron. All they have to do is investigate the war crimes by Gooper officials and the corporate embezzlement of the Defense Dept.

Word. Put the Chimpster in a position where he's having to apologize for the piracy of the defense contractors who have been bleeding us to death in Iraq, and he'll impeach himself.

Any real leader would be incensed and calling for treason charges against senior management and asset forfeiture of American corporations guilty of half as much gouging as has been substantiated against Halliburton and others in Iraq. The Chimpster and the wingnuts, on the other hand, can't stop defending them. It's unreal.


GravatarYou go, girl.

I get down with my bad self.


Gravatar(and wtf is dith on about today?)
flory,


Darlin, what the fuck is he on about at anytime? He's a tedious little thread louse.


Gravatar
[experiences shrinkage]


Well, I certainly don't want a cup of that coffee.


GravatarOkay, that's just EERIE!!! watertiger

♪Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavelength
This is a post about your wavelength and my wavelength, baby...


Gravatar(and wtf is dith on about today?)
flory, keeper of the list | 11.11.06 - 4:35 pm | #


I don't think that's really dith, if you know what I mean.


GravatarCan't force him to appear if he is not in the country.

I'm guessing he isn't headed for Europe.


GravatarThey're so busy trying to outfox each other for title of "king of the mountain" that they've completely lost sight of what the mountain is.
watertiger


Eh. That goes with the territory. They're politicians, and that's what politicians do.

Which is why you need good, experienced, politically savvy staff to get the actual work done while the politicians are posturing and preening.

One reason Clinton's early years were such a disaster is because there weren't any experienced executive staff around the White House. His staff didn't know how to play the game and they got pwned.

We can't afford for that to happen on the Hill.


GravatarAs Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

As we used to say in the field artillery, Waxman is dealing with a target rich environment.


GravatarDunnfur. Just closed this spring.

Damn. Loved that place.


GravatarWar profiteering is a crime. Everybody must be on the same page as Billmon. That's he's suggestion...


GravatarThey are sending Georgie on an excellent adventure.
"In an awkward bit of timing, Bush will be globe-trotting when Congress returns to town next week to open its lame-duck session, taking up business the White House deems vital."

Isn't that so ... coincidental? Georgie will find out more about how big the world is!


GravatarBut there's hardly anything on that first VU album I don't absolutely love.

About ten years ago, I bought the "Peel Slowly and See" box set. It's still one of my prized posessions; in spite of the Doug Yule years...


GravatarI'm going to call BellSouth to cancel my DSL subscription. I have dial-up here but it's alright. And with high-speed at work, anything I might want to watch I can there...
Ô¿Ô


Right now I am using free WiFi thoughtfully provided by one of my neighbors. Don't think that I want to thank them though (even if I knew who it was.)

How far does a WiFi signal reach? The signal strength is 'very low' but it works just fine.


GravatarWell, I certainly don't want a cup of that coffee.

Sproing?


GravatarImpeachment is the only appropriate response to Cheney and Bush.


Gravatar"In an awkward bit of timing,

Heh. Awkward.


GravatarCan't force him to appear if he is not in the country.
____league


He better hope is not in in a country that's signatory to the ICC. His ass is on trial in Germany for war crimes...


Gravatarmr. steve - somebody needs to clean up their email so as not to exceed their quota or i have an old addie.


GravatarI keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".

Shelled or unshelled?


GravatarI keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".

Shelled or unshelled?


GravatarDamn. Loved that place.

You will be happy to know that the Borders in Calhoun Square just closed shop.

I was...because they were actively fighting a union organizing there.

But next time you come to town, I'll give you a tour of GK's new spot.


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

I don't know anything about the circumstances, but offhand, the fixtures and decorations in a store are rarely for sale.

From personal experience, even "framed" artwork displaying posters you are selling aren't necessarily available for purchase.

Just sayin'...


GravatarInstead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".



Time to rub my pork butt. Sear all sides. Cook over low heat. Monitor my new remote thermometer until internal temp is 200 degrees. Slow roast until the Hogs bring the PAIN at 1900 on the duece. Woo Pig Sooie!


Gravatardave©™: You got a helmet for that thing?

Oh yeah -- came with it! It's white, and dorky-lookin' as a slide rule and a pocket protector, but hells yeah, I'll wear it until I can afford to replace it with something cooler-lookin'.
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GravatarCould we please have our habeas corpus back?


GravatarOn his Tokyo Rose album, he has a song where Thomas Edison and Henry Ford debate '80s US trade policy looking down from heaven. He does both voices.
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Well, that just totally cracked me up.


GravatarI've gotten roped into volunteering to edit all this copy for a website and I don't want to do it. I already did all this copy for a book; I don't want to re-edit it for the website.

But like a fool, I said yes when they asked, and now my deadline looms. . .

Yes, I'm a whiny leftist. Whine whine whine.


GravatarWar profiteering is a crime.

Which is the basis of the Bush Crime Family. Bushes have been war profiteers going back at least to WWI, perhaps earlier (Rockefeller got his start during the Civil War).


GravatarWhich is why you need good, experienced, politically savvy staff to get the actual work done while the politicians are posturing and preening.

One reason Clinton's early years were such a disaster is because there weren't any experienced executive staff around the White House. His staff didn't know how to play the game and they got pwned.


How'd you get so smart?



GravatarHow far does a WiFi signal reach? The signal strength is 'very low' but it works just fine.
____,league


My computer detected a wireless signal but it was too weak for me to use. Be careful not to use a printer or it might print out on theirs.


Gravatarthere's hardly anything on that first VU album I don't absolutely love.


I got the third Velvets album - the one with "Murder Mystery" on it - out of a bargain bin at Woolworth's for 79¢ when I was in high school.

Yes, I was an oddball...


GravatarAs Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

I'd like Waxman to find out exactly why the numerous clear warnings on 9/11 were so consistently ignored.

Exactly why.


GravatarOh yeah -- came with it!

Just checking... since your mom's not here...


Gravatarmr. steve - somebody needs to clean up their email so as not to exceed their quota or i have an old addie.
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:42 pm | #


Shoot. I don't what the fuck is wrong with that...

Thanks for trying, though.


Gravatar"Fit But You Know It" by Streets just came on...

Best. Cockney. Rapper. Ever.


GravatarI see Bolton has vetoed a resolution at the UN condemning Israel for the killing of 18 civilians.

He said it was politically motivated and unbalanced.

Projection again.


GravatarBush will be globe-trotting


With buckets of confetti to the face at each stop.


GravatarAs Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

Who dresses Pickles?


Gravatarevening, bats. lovely pics of your newly democratic capitol hill. it was just lovely outside and i'm so glad i took a walk.


GravatarBushes have been war profiteers going back at least to WWI

Exactly why I don't think the House needs to investigate very deeply before things get very uncomfortable for the Chimpster. Presumably the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy where the Carlyle Group, Halliburton, etc., are concerned will not hold much sway with the Democratic majority.

When I see Bunnatine Greenhouse explaining how Halliburton robbed us blind and Rumsfeld ordered the Pentagon to pay them anyway--and when someone from the Pentagon is put under oath to explain it--then I'll know that the Democrats are serious about protecting the troops. No more $50 six-packs and moldy food.


Gravatar Testing


GravatarWhat they need tho, is political expertise, and that's what the Dems don't have in Washington anymore.

Funny you should mention that... this site was being pimped at Kos today.


GravatarHave to look close, had one of the younger barred owls visit the woodpecker feeder. It wasn't sure how to grab a bite. It was raining so the video isn't very sharp. I's just above the handle of the thing I used to hold the suet.



http://www.dropshots.com/day.php...11& ctime=110146


GravatarMy computer detected a wireless signal but it was too weak for me to use. Be careful not to use a printer or it might print out on theirs.
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Thanks. I had not thought about that. Will shut off wifi before printing. Have not used a printer with this computer because the computer has no parallel port and the printer has no USB. Need to buy one of those converters.


GravatarHow'd you get so smart?


Tena


*blush*

There were all kinds of stories back in the day about how much trouble the Clinton Administration was having staffing the WH and the agencies because it had been so long since there'd been a Dem president there just weren't any people left in Washington.


GravatarIt's not that freaky when you realize how fucked up everything is.


GravatarCould we please have our habeas corpus back?

Don't forget to put posse comitatus back in there, as well.


GravatarI see Bolton has vetoed a resolution at the UN condemning Israel for the killing of 18 civilians.

He said it was politically motivated and unbalanced.


Bolton doesn't consider residents of the occupied territory "civilians," just terrorists that haven't been killed yet.


GravatarShoot. I don't what the fuck is wrong with that...

Just sign up for a Yahoo account... you don't have to ever use it again.


GravatarBest. Cockney. Rapper. Ever.
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr.


Have you heard Lady Sovereign
she has recieved the Jigga Seal of Approval


GravatarBe careful not to use a printer or it might print out on theirs.
Ô¿Ô


That raises all sorts of possibilities...


GravatarChiDy -- Greets! How ya doin' there in D.C.?

So good to see you!
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GravatarFrom personal experience, even "framed" artwork displaying posters you are selling aren't necessarily available for purchase.

Years ago I was in a shop that sold a variety of things. On the wall behind the cash register was a large, framed original John Lennon nude self portrait with Yoko. I really thought it would be for sale, considering the kind of shop it was because it had things like that for sale. So I asked.

You're right, dave®™ - store fixtures aren't for sale as a rule. Gol dang it.


GravatarShoot. I don't what the fuck is wrong with that... Thanks for trying, though. steve simels

Why don't you set up a nice free Yahoo account with 1GB of free space?


GravatarJeffCo owes me a Coke!


Gravatarvegetables snails darting through droplets of the dizzying dromedary of your dhim doomness, loosers to a d. And chud scud scuba fubar aipac anwar rko mgmua msnbc snl.

I just fucking love abbreviations, pdq.


GravatarOk, so I've washed all the exterior windows and doors, and the awning as best I can (Oxyclean will remove most of the moss without scrubbing - who knew? - and that's going to have to be good enough, because I can't safely get at it to scrub), all I lack is the back porch walls, doors, windows, and floor. And I've got my first case of "itchy fingers" of the cold season. Right now they're all red and puffy and itching, from warming back up. So the back may have to wait till tomorrow.

And I still want everyone to remind the Dems that we want investigations and where appropriate, prosecutions.


Gravatarchidy -- I'd say you're enjoying your new environs?

And your pics make me remember why I liked the damn town so much....


GravatarUh...that last steve simels post about abbreviations was me.

IRTE.


Gravatar...store fixtures aren't for sale as a rule.

Only at the end...


GravatarHave you heard Lady Sovereign
she has recieved the Jigga Seal of Approval


Yeah. She was just in town last weekend. She was also on Letterman a bit back.

The Strib called her a cross between Streets and MIA. Don't see it.

But she's okay by Zap standards...


Gravatarchicago dyke
the keeper of the whip!


GravatarAnd I still want everyone to remind the Dems that we want investigations and where appropriate, prosecutions.

The investigations should be held under the auspices of a Truth But To Hell With Reconciliation Commission.


GravatarFunny you should mention that... this site was being pimped at Kos today.
dave©™


That's for campaign staff. Entirely different breed.

It's the Repukkklicans that let campaigns run the policy...not us.


GravatarJeffCo owes me a Coke! dave©™

You can collect at EschaCon IIe: the Piggyback!


GravatarEnjoying the first of many beer this find Saturday -- a pint of Bridgport IPA, from Oregon, home of ErinPDX and other famous Eschatonians. Yummy. Cheap, too... on tap here at Cafe Coco, the jiggiest li'l cafe in midtown Gnashvegas.

This will be my only beer, here, though -- I'm catching the 18:00 bus back to west Gnashvegas, and scootering to Kroger next door to where the scooter is parked, to get six SNPA, and head home to Curly for the eve.
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GravatarBut she's okay by Zap standards...
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr


I like her
But I like MIA and the Streets Better


GravatarExactly why I don't think the House needs to investigate very deeply before things get very uncomfortable for the Chimpster. Presumably the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy where the Carlyle Group, Halliburton, etc., are concerned will not hold much sway with the Democratic majority'

I couldn't agree more.

There's a whole goddamn lot of information that's missing - parts of reports suppressed and never released, not to mention photographs that two federal courts have ordered the administration to release. There's just easy shit - bird nests on the ground - to keep the Democrats busy for most of the first session. And that's before they even have to start the colonoscopies on CooCoo, Cheney and Rice.


GravatarI see it has violin and string arrangements by actual loony '60s holdover Van Dyke Parks.

Man, I love Van Dyke Parks! Aside from his work with Brian Wilson, I'm probably the only guy in the universe that loved "Song Cycle."

"Discover America" is also great, but a little more "mainstream"... his version of "Sailing Shoes" is just great!


GravatarAnd where appropriate persecutions.


GravatarAny of you ya-hoos ever play a card game (w/its own, proprietary deck, btw), called M'hing?
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Gravatarevening, bats. lovely pics of your newly democratic capitol hill.

When we were there at the end of September, I could barely stand to look at the place.


GravatarYou cannot imagine how many leaves I raked today. They were falling faster than I could rake them. It already looks as if I hadn't raked at all.


Gravatarour lowly liquor lobby longs to back a road to old time songs. biblebelts worn from here and after all were born in the know. so rally round awhile jim crow for I thought I'd like to show they can recall the alamo way down in old mexico.

i left academia amid sixty-two. was it sixty-one scholar was cooled from the u? doubtless more on sore wing than prayer i up and just withdrew to the wander round there.


GravatarThat's for campaign staff.

Oh, too bad...


GravatarJupiter, Venus, Mars and Mercury are all crowded around the sun this weekend. The great conjunction is invisible to the human eye (too much sunlight), but SOHO can see it. The spacecraft's coronagraph is able to block the glare and reveal the planets. Take a look: live image.


GravatarI must go rub my pork and listen to the Razorback pre-game.

To those of you that own a copy of this, listen. For the rest, I'll leave you with the opening verse of Trout Fishing in America's "Just a Little While"


We live just a little while
Then somebody takes our place
But I'm here right now
and I don't want to leave without leavin a trace
We live a little while
then everything must change
It might get better, it might get worse
It never stays the same

But right now
I'm having a good time
Right now
I feel fine
Well, you can tell by the look in this boy's eyes
that I'm happy to be here
and that ain't no lie

Alright

Alright

Alright


Gravatari love it here. i got whistled at by a woman today, it was great. the weather is great, my 'hood is great, my three new girlfriends are great...so far, everything is great except the lack of a 420 connection. i'm working on that.


GravatarIt's the Repukkklicans that let campaigns run the policy...not us.
flory, keeper of the list


Funny how they made that claim about Clinton nonfuckingstop.

I wonder if I'll ever stop hating these people?


GravatarHey gang.

Just got in from raking the yard. Man, I hate to bag leaves. Raking ain't so bad, but I sure hate to bag 'em.


GravatarI must go rub my pork, listen to the Razorback pregame and listen to Trout Fishing in America's "Just a Little While". Fits the mood wonderfully.


GravatarThere's just easy shit - bird nests on the ground - to keep the Democrats busy for most of the first session. And that's before they even have to start the colonoscopies on CooCoo, Cheney and Rice.

It's amazing how much of this administration the Dems could/should expose.

And it would do every citizen of this world justice to do so.


Gravatarparked, to get six SNPA, and head home to Curly for the eve.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:54 pm


bridgeport ipa is very good...
i'm drinkin' a redhook (woodinville, wa) ipa as i type this...also quite good...
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GravatarHave you heard Lady Sovereign
she has recieved the Jigga Seal of Approval



Saw her on Letterman and thought she was about as exciting as watching paint dry.

And speaking of paint drying, here are the top three Worst Albums of the Year.

1. That lute/madrigal Sting nonsense.
Earth to Der Stingel: you're not Julian Bream.

2. That Audra McDonald crap where she tries to invest a Sesame Street song with deep spiritual significance (and its not even the worst thing on the album).

3. That Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence. Proof positive that all those beautiful folk and r8b covers he did back when he was good were the work of an idiot savant.

Apparently, I'm cranky today.


GravatarChimpy is going to play the bi-partisan card for all it’s worth for the next 2 years.

Every time the Dems try and be tough, the Right will scream “oooh you are not being nice to dear leader, why are you so mean”

They will hope the Dems will back off for 2 years, and then maybe they can steal 2008.

The Dems need to go full steam ahead, and they need to keep reminding people that the Repigs did not do oversight, which is why they have to be tough. Make McCain defend his crap record every day.


GravatarChimpy is going to play the bi-partisan card for all it’s worth for the next 2 years.

Every time the Dems try and be tough, the Right will scream “oooh you are not being nice to dear leader, why are you so mean”

They will hope the Dems will back off for 2 years, and then maybe they can steal 2008.

The Dems need to go full steam ahead, and they need to keep reminding people that the Repigs did not do oversight, which is why they have to be tough. Make McCain defend his crap record every day.


GravatarSo astrologers, what does it mean that all those planets are in conjunction with the sun?


GravatarChiDy: so far, everything is great except the lack of a 420 connection. i'm working on that.

I dabbled yesterday for the first time in over a year, with a new friend -- a handyman who's looking to find more work, who's agreed to give me 20% of any jobs I book for him via a website I'm doing for just such nefarious purposes. Working stiffs are sorely underserved by the web, methinks, and I'm gonna retire by keeping these folx in work, if FSM will allow it. Now that I'm not looking for minimum-wage pee-in-a-cup jobs, I figured, "what the hell?"
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Gravatardid michigan win today? i can't believe i'm asking, but my best fag friend went to rutgers, and told me he's actually following them as they're doing so well. i need bragging rights.


GravatarY'all should just mulch the leaves. Better for the soil...


Gravatarbillyb - I always rake them into the middle of a sheet, then fold up the corners, drag it around back, and dump it in either the "mulch pile" (I mow the leaves then add to the compost pile) or the alley. Much easier than bagging. If you must bag, mowing them up with a mulching mower with a bagger makes it a lot easier - also they take up a lot fewer lawn bags when they've been mulched.


GravatarWoody Guthrie's Guitar: i'm drinkin' a redhook (woodinville, wa) ipa as i type this...also quite good...

I used to love Redhook ESB, but it has gone quite far down in quality in the last couple of years, IMO. On tap, it seems better... but it used to be consistently excellent. Now, merely "good."
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GravatarI think Bush will resign before his term is over. I don't think he could the scrutiny.


Gravatar I'm probably the only guy in the universe that loved "Song Cycle."


Uh...not the only guy.


GravatarThat Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence. Proof positive that all those beautiful folk and r8b covers he did back when he was good were the work of an idiot savant.

No fucking shit. Who the fuck thought him covering "Fooled Around and Fell In Love" was a good idea?

Pretty much confirms the theory that Ron Wood and Ronnie Lane were the geniuses in Faces... Rod was just a tool (and a rather large one at that, if you get my drift)...


GravatarNow that I'm not looking for minimum-wage pee-in-a-cup jobs, I figured, "what the hell?".
Jeffraham Prestonian 5:01 pm


'salmost enuffta makeafella a on-ter-penure, doncha think?


Gravatar"keep the Democrats busy for most of the first session..."

This is what is most bothersome; the glacial pace of progress in our nation. It's been this way so long. We need to say "look, the malfeasance here is so overwhelming and constitutes such a grave danger to the republic we are intituting articles immediately". What will it take for us to get SERIOUS with these fuckers? They have ALREADY ruined our country. WHY are we waiting? So they can shred more evidence and perpetrate even more shit?


Gravatarmichigan just started playing
Indiana


Wolverines 21
HOOOSIERS 3


Gravatarright on, JP. another thing to add to a democratic agenda: a rational conversation on the failures of the war on drugs. starting with the recognition that pot is better than booze when it comes to your health, as well as having a myriad of other useful applications.


GravatarUh...not the only guy.

Why are the good ones always taken???


Gravatari'm drinkin' a redhook (woodinville, wa) ipa as i type this...also quite good...

Saint Paul has the best IPA/EPA I've ever had...Summit.

If any of you get yer hands on it, you'll lub it!! That's a Zap endorsement.


GravatarApparently, I'm cranky today.
steve simels


It's a Libra trait, baby. Think Groucho Marx.

That and argue argue argue.

Ain't it fun?


GravatarSo astrologers, what does it mean that all those planets are in conjunction with the sun?

That the Forces of Good win the day.


GravatarApparently, I'm cranky today.
steve simels


Apparently you are. I'll give you #'s 2 and 3, but I liked some of the Sting pieces.


GravatarIncog,

I get waaaaaaay too many leaves to use for mulch. If i didn't rake, they'd cover every inch of my yard up to my hips. Literally. But the county picks them up from the curb and turns them into mulch that anyone in the county can get for free, so it's all good. And, I tell myself that it's as good as a trip to the gym.


GravatarThat Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence.

Perhaps even worse was watching him perform said covers on the Tonight show. Karaoke night.


GravatarThat Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence.

Perhaps even worse was watching him perform said covers on the Tonight show. Karaoke night.


GravatarMichcigan is quarterbacked by figures skater sonya henne


GravatarY'all should just mulch the leaves. Better for the soil...

I just let them stay there, rotting.


GravatarWorking stiffs are sorely underserved by the web, methinks, and I'm gonna retire by keeping these folx in work...

That's an excellent fucking idea, buddy boy. Go for it!


GravatarChi-dy...

mich's up over ind 21-3 at the end of the ist half


Gravatarmy alma mater
is presently tied with the Univeristy of Manitoba


Gravatarright on, JP. another thing to add to a democratic agenda: a rational conversation on the failures of the war on drugs. starting with the recognition that pot is better than booze when it comes to your health, as well as having a myriad of other useful applications.
chicago dyke



OH YES!!!! This is so overdue.

However, the failure of the Nevada and Colorado ballot initiatives might make the Democrats think the public isn't really behind this idea.

That doesn't mean we can't make them pay attention. I thought what we were doing here is making democracy. I imagine that my letters to Congress are going to be going out in even greater numbers than before.


Gravatarthanks, ole. simels, if you're still cranky, i think there's a troll here who can blow you.


GravatarWoody Guthrie's Guitar: 'salmost enuffta makeafella a on-ter-penure, doncha think?

If I can pocket ~$800 cash every month, minimum for the next few months, I'll set aside 20% or so for taxes, and I will never cry about a single thang, money-wise, for some time to come. I'd rather be happy than "firmly" (yeah... riiight) middle class, again. I like the idea of working at my own pace, and more importantly, working ONLY with people I like, 'cause I have a choice.
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GravatarHere's a pretty good checklist for the Democrats.


GravatarI've got my friends at work to save coffee grounds from each pot of coffee made there. That's about 75 pots a week. I leave a bucket under the cabinet where the coffee machine is. Coffee grounds are pure gold in organic farming...


Gravatarohio state is also thumping northwestern

so nest week will be teh huge


Gravatar simels, if you're still cranky, i think there's a troll here who can blow you.
chicago dyke | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 5:08 pm | #


From now on, all I want are one-eyed trolls to give me a socket job.



Man, that disgusted even me.


GravatarSpeaking of that Sting thing, one of the DJs on the local FM rocker keeps saying while she basically has nothing against the album itself, she was pretty pissed at a comment Sting made about him doing it because rock music was "boring." She draws the word out using a fake British accent.

I've never been a big fan of Sting's - too fucking pretentious by half. He was good in "Quadrophenia," though...


GravatarI just let them stay there, rotting.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


Good for the Grub Worms.

Dig em up, freeze em and drive the crappie wild next May.


GravatarI've got my friends at work to save coffee grounds from each pot of coffee made there.

Around here, Starbucks offers the grounds gratis to composters.

If you don't have a Starbucks near you - good for you!


Gravatarchicago dyke: right on, JP. another thing to add to a democratic agenda: a rational conversation on the failures of the war on drugs. starting with the recognition that pot is better than booze when it comes to your health, as well as having a myriad of other useful applications.

Check Gatewood Galbraith, sometime when you're bored. He's what made me become a registered Libertarian back in the '80s.
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GravatarI just let them stay there, rotting.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


Even better. Lawns begin looking anemic from bagging after awhile.


Gravatartena, i fear it'll take a republican to bring forth the conversation we need. gary whathisname from AZ was a good start, i don't know what happened to him. but the approach shouldn't be "let your kids get high, who cares?" it should be "you're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."


Gravatarmy alma mater
is presently tied with the Univeristy of Manitoba
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 5:07 pm


it might surprise you to note that, even as we speak, i am wearing the University of Manitoba cap i traded with a colleague (for one from LSU) there, many mooons ago...
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GravatarApparently, I'm cranky today. steve simels

Happiness is only a quota-cleansing away.


Gravatarohio state is also thumping northwestern

so nest week will be teh huge


The cynical, oft-burned Bucks fan in me fears they'll blow it again against the Blue Wolfies.


GravatarCoffee grounds are pure gold in organic farming...
Ô¿Ô


They make the lettuce mighty perky.


Gravatarif you don't have a Starbucks near you - good for you!
dave™©,


They just built one close by. I'll check. Thanks for the tip. All those coffee grinds at work were just going straight into the landfill...


Gravatardave--I'm also a fan of Van Dyke Parks. I bet he's the only rock'n'roll guy ever to write a song praising J Edgar Hoover (the chorus goes Rat-a-tat-tat Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat).

And I love his production for Bonnie Raitt's Wah She Go Do? from Takin' My Time. Have you ever tried to position a 45 RPM single on a 33 RPM spike without an adaptor? You can never center it quite right and it keeps speeding up and slowing down. That's what this song's loopy rhythm sounds like on purpose.


GravatarThe Democrats aren't used to power. Can we trust them?

Solving the Great Depression, winning WWII, curing polio, passing the GI Bill and the interstate highway system, stepping foot on the Moon, providing electricity and phone service to rural US regions, protecting retirees from paupership, college degrees and home ownership to those who never imagined it possible, taking the festering civil rights issue in this country head on.

These were all accomplished by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I'm not convinced Democrats can handle federal power in an adult manner.


GravatarI do the same thing, Hectate. I mulch a few, but most of my yard is a veggie garden, and I understand too many leaves will overwhelm it. But even though I'm putting the leaves out on the curb ( along with all my green waste from the kitchen), I buy the processed compost back from the city, and the garden explodes with produce. It's a nice little circle of life.


GravatarQuadrophenia

Projected it at the 8th St numerous times in an earlier life. I must know every frame of that sucker.


Gravatarit might surprise you to note that, even as we speak, i am wearing the University of Manitoba cap i traded with a colleague (for one from LSU) there, many mooons ago...
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Woody Guthrie's Guitar


It might interest you
that the U of Manitoba Bisons were the number 1 football team in Canada this year (or at least in Canada WesT)
they put a hurt on my Huskies at home earlier this year


GravatarThey make the lettuce mighty perky.
R. McGeddon | 11.11.06 - 5:13 pm


get enough caffein in 'em, they'll chase the damn rabbits right outtada fuuukin yard...


GravatarGo on - try to stay cranky. I dare you! (Bonus: Virginia Madsen!)


Gravatardrive the crappie wild next May.

next thing ya know, you got a whole mess o' little crappies.


GravatarBonus: Virginia Madsen!

Is it something her bro would watch?


GravatarGo on - try to stay cranky. I dare you! (Bonus: Virginia Madsen!)
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 5:14 pm | #



Alas, I'm on dial-up, and have never been able to access YouTube.

What would it be if I could?


Gravatarit should be "you're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."
chicago dyke


That's the rational argument, but I'm not sure its ever gonna win against the "Eek, drugs! Bad! The Children!" emotional argument on the other side.
Don't know what will.

Plus, you've got probably the second most powerful industry in the country -- the prison industry -- lined up against you. They've got one very powerful vested interest in keeping those prisons full.


Gravatar "you're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."

Yeah, and they could make a really good strong law enforcement argument with it. Tell people that if they remove the drug trade from the streets, most violent crime will drop dramatically. And there will be more resources to fight the violence that isn't a result of the drug trade.

There's a lot of crime that police cannot and will not pay any attention to besides to show up and fill out the form for your insurance company. A lot of that is because they just don't have the resources.


It's a win win. There is no downside.


GravatarI think it'd make more sense to handle marijuana like we handle beer -- license producers, distributors, & sellers, tax same, put an age limit on it, and let people enjoy it if they like it.

And wouldn't restaurants just *love* to serve MJ appetizers? Think what it would do for dinner & dessert revenues! (munch, munch, munch)


GravatarLet's abolish the "Feed Curly" button this month.

Whoo-HOOOOO!
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Gravatarbillyb - I always rake them into the middle of a sheet, then fold up the corners, drag it around back, and dump it in either the "mulch pile" (I mow the leaves then add to the compost pile) or the alley.

Ironically the last 2 houses I've lived in are corner lots with houses in the back and on the side, so I don't have any way to get rid of the leaves other than bagging or taking them to the dump, which is closed on Saturday.

Thanks for the tip, tho.

Off to a U of DE hockey game. Later.


Gravatarscrolling down: i'm worried about atrios. his ponies are getting more and more butch with ever poll. or is that holden's thing?


Gravatarthey put a hurt on my Huskies at home earlier this year
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot 5:14 pm



hell, olex, i din't even know they were called the bison...

in case anybody but me cares: gawja whupped up on auburn...anything bad happens to auburn, i'm a happy guy...
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Gravatarflory - the EEK, the Children! argument can be met easily.

Children can obtain drugs far more easily than they can alcohol. The underground economy doesn't care how old you are.


GravatarTena, chasing burglars is dangerous-- they might shoot you. Far safer to go after pot smokers.


GravatarI bet he's the only rock'n'roll guy ever to write a song praising J Edgar Hoover (the chorus goes Rat-a-tat-tat Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat).

Rat-a-tat-tat
Rat-a-tat-tat
G-Man, G-Man Hooooo-Verrrr!

According to Van Dyke's website, that album has been reissued by RykoDisc... gotta look for it!


Gravataryou're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."

Yes. And I think America's ready for it; I really do. I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.


GravatarHave you ever tried to position a 45 RPM single on a 33 RPM spike without an adaptor?

Why, yes. Yes, I have.

It's a lost art...


GravatarY'all should just mulch the leaves. Better for the soil...

Too many, Incog. I do mulch as much as I can with the mower and also dump as many as possible in the beds, but I still end up with 20 or so 55 gal drum sized bags.


Gravatargawja whupped up on auburn...anything bad happens to auburn, i'm a happy guy...
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Woody Guthrie's Guita


I'm just trying to pass on a little knowledge
now if someone ever asks you waht the u of M teams are called you will know


GravatarChildren can obtain drugs far more easily than they can alcohol. The underground economy doesn't care how old you are.
Tena


Might work, if we could manage to get it into general circulation.

But its the vested interests of the prison industry that will make it a long, tough slog of a battle.


GravatarAnd wouldn't restaurants just *love* to serve MJ appetizers? Think what it would do for dinner & dessert revenues! (munch, munch, munch)
strawhat


now that's a thought. get the restaurant and food industries behind a MJ reform movement. hmmmm.


GravatarWhat would it be if I could? steve simels

You may have many reactions to Philip Oakley, but cranky would not be one of them. How can it fucking be that Electric Dreams is unavailable on DVD?!?


Gravatarall our leaves belong to the early snow

lousy weather suiting stereotypes


GravatarYou guys ever get the creepy feeling that whenever the Republicans take power, that a huge three-card Monte game is about to take place?


GravatarThere is no downside.

The downside is to those who now make the beega of the fact that it's illegal.


GravatarI think it'd make more sense to handle marijuana like we handle beer -- license producers, distributors, & sellers, tax same, put an age limit on it, and let people enjoy it if they like it.

I prefer the Starbucks business model.


GravatarTena, chasing burglars is dangerous-- they might shoot you. Far safer to go after pot smokers.
Moe Szyslak


Shit, they've been known to totally ignore car jackers here. My friend was car jacked 7 or 8 years ago and the police were so bored with the whole thing I couldn't believe it. She was sitting there hysterical, blood pouring down her face from her head, and they were just standing around. Wouldn't even call in the description of the car and the jacker.


GravatarIt's the knowledge that it has when they leave that's the real bummer


GravatarYes. And I think America's ready for it; I really do. I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Anyone except the Repukkkes and their cringing servants in the media.

Imagine the shitstorm Limpballs, Drudge and company would whip up if Dems tried to make the argument.

I agree with whoever said it upthread -- it'll take a Republican to get the debate going. A Democrat would just be making themselves into a target.


GravatarIt's a lost art... dave™©

You try telling the kids today... (hang on)


"You hoodlums get offa my lawn! I'm keeping that frisbee!"

Sorry, what was I saying?


GravatarI think it'd make more sense to handle marijuana like we handle beer -- license producers, distributors, & sellers, tax same, put an age limit on it, and let people enjoy it if they like it.

They'd figure out some sort of way from preventing us from growing our own. AMD will make billions from GM pot, but you and me will get arrested from growing it in our back yards.


GravatarIf you don't have a garden, you can still save your organics you have left over like potato peelings, tea bags and coffee grinds. Just keep a small bucket under your sink to dump organics in, and every few days, dump it in a large pot on your pation, and every week or so, keep a large bag of top soil and spread a layer on top. Let the rain and worms do the rest. Makes the best soil for growing anything including vegetables. I have a plastic pot that's the largest they sell at Home Depot for that. I was going to go with a specialized setup for that but this is much cheaper and just as effective.


Gravatarmy three new girlfriends are great...so far, everything is great except the lack of a 420 connection. i'm working on that.
chicago dyke


three girlfriends. Bit greedy there, no?


GravatarI wnat have the previous elections probed and paper trail mandated nationally.


GravatarGood one from Wolcott:

The Democratic rout of the Republicans in the midterms has sent a number of rightwing bloggers reeling into the ropes. Trying to get their bearings, they're showing a bad case of the staggers as they try to answer the ringing noises in their heads. Some whose prognostications went awry are seeking consolation in the enfolding, forgiving arms of Faith. Others are playing the political equivalent to Fantasy Baseball, finding new spots on the roster for Santorum and George Allen (see K'Lo's Klubhouse over at NRO's Corner), with the nuttiest pipe dream proffered by Tammy Bruce, who proposes John Bolton as presidential material for 2008.

But no one's gyroscope has gone screwier than the already wobbly Pamela of Atlas Shrugs. For her, John Bolton, on whom she has a mad pash, is too good to be merely president, only the throne of Aztec Sun God would suffice, and the prospect of him being sent out to pasture, along with the other setbacks of the week, has spun her into a fugue state, capped by a post genocidally titled Death to Germany. So hoarse is Pamela's latest yowl (which she quickly, clumsily retitled Eurabia: Death [Will Come] to Germany) that even some loyal readers fear her transmission is overheating...


Gravatarnow that's a thought. get the restaurant and food industries behind a MJ reform movement. hmmmm. chicago dyke

Along with civil unions, the pro-pot initiative went down hard in CO this week.


GravatarHUSKIES 16
BISONS 8


Gravatarmy three new girlfriends are great...

Jeez...and I can't give it away on 2nd avenue....


Gravataryou're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer.

You'll have to prove the two are related, but there's no doubt that the defense budget gets way too big a piece of the pie.


GravatarJeez...and I can't give it away on 2nd avenue.... steve simels

Try offering some free (shh)doobies.


Gravatarthree girlfriends. Bit greedy there, no?
ql in ny


ahem. new gfs. there's still my excellent bonobo and a couple wannabes.

i love being gay.


GravatarBut its the vested interests of the prison industry that will make it a long, tough slog of a battle.
flory


Yes, well, there shouldn't be a prison industry. But then, the entire justice system needs serious reform and that's going to have to wait. Again.

I do think it will be legalized eventually and I really didn't mean to say I thought it should be something they are concerned with right now. I don't. Forget that. Let's just stick to the big stuff: corruption and Iraq. Hell, there's more than enough there.

I really do think we're going to be ok, and that we've got time. I really do think the Democrats aren't going to relinquish power again for awhile. The sheer amount of bad shit the Repugs have pulled has completely stripped the party of trustworthiness. For real. There is a poll that says so very clearly.


GravatarToo many, Incog. I do mulch as much as I can with the mower and also dump as many as possible in the beds, but I still end up with 20 or so 55 gal drum sized bags.
billy b -blues deluxe


Yeah, but what does it matter?


GravatarGood evening all.

Jeez...and I can't give it away on 2nd avenue....
steve simels


Meet ya there in 5 minutes, kiddo.


GravatarHow in the fuck did Reagan's economic theory not get laughed out of existence that making the really rich, really richer, in fact benefits the really poor?

Even the really rich George H.W. Bush pegged it as "Voodoo Economics".


Gravatarback later...


Gravatari love being gay.
chicago dyke


Me too. As difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.


GravatarS.F. assemblyman to propose law barring 49ers from using 'San Francisco' if they move.

Maybe it will be the Santa Clara 49ers after all.

A San Francisco assemblyman announced Friday that he plans to propose a state law banning the 49ers from using the city's name if the team relocates.

Assemblyman Mark Leno said it "feels a bit of a rip-off" for a team to relocate but continue to cash in on the San Francisco name.

"Our city's name has great cachet, it clearly has an economic value to it," Leno said.

John York, 49ers team owner, announced Thursday that the team has abandoned efforts to construct a new stadium in San Francisco and is focusing now on a 55-acre Santa Clara site.

The goal is to construct a state-of-the-art football stadium between the team's Santa Clara headquarters and the Great America theme park by 2012.

The team would continue to be called the San Francisco 49ers, York said.

Not so fast, Leno countered Friday.

San Francisco is internationally famous, one of the world's hottest tourist draws and "should have some control" over use of its name, he said.

Leno's proposal would allow a professional sports franchise located elsewhere to call itself "San Francisco" only if the mayor and the Board of Supervisors authorize use of the name.


GravatarHow in the fuck did Reagan's economic theory not get laughed out of existence that making the really rich, really richer, in fact benefits the really poor?

Even the really rich George H.W. Bush pegged it as "Voodoo Economics".
Max Planck


Because the American Dream is that we're all rich, or will be one day.

And there's nothing more American than pissing on the poor, preferably from an imaginary great height. That stuff falling on us? Rainwater, dear, pure rainwater.


GravatarI'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I swear. But will ChiDy give me the time o' day? No! Penisphobe!
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GravatarAfternoon, all.


Gravatarpie- mind clarifying? i guess i just assume everyone understands that 1)prohibition makes the cost of drugs higher, and dealers thus richer and 2)poppy production in af'stan is up like 70% since the invasion, and the reTaliban isn't so upset this time about that. plan columbia hasn't done squat to bring down coca production, blah blah the list goes on and on. as tena says: kids can get drugs easier than booze, does anyone honestly think we've accomplished anything in the "war on drugs?"

other than enrich the prison industry, corrupt law enforcement, piss off millions in drug growing regions, lock up and disenfranchise millions of black, brown and poor people, and give republicans and racists the cover they need to keep on being racist?


GravatarAs difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.

I'm puzzled. Since when do you have a choice?


GravatarI'm kinda suprised that shrub is willing to work with Democrats with his job approval so high:

31%. President Bush’s job approval rating, according to a new Newsweek poll. 5:20 pm | Comment (0)

Filed under:
Posted by Judd at 5:20 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/


GravatarI'd rather be straight, so that my dalliances with other men would seem adventurously indecent. Then I'd snort some meth and get rebuked by godly men. Lay on those hands harder, Brother Bear!


GravatarFuck you, Haloscan. Well, here's the headline. If you're interested, click through:

S.F. assemblyman to propose law barring 49ers from using 'San Francisco' if they move.


GravatarMagoo Goodness!


Gravatarmind clarifying?

Yes. You don't have to prove it to me, but it would be nice if someone could explain that to Americans who don't know that.


GravatarI mean, I can understand if your neighbors get mad at you for not bagging when they do but fuck them. It doesn't mean you're lazy for not bagging. Lawns that are bagged start looking anemic and thin on grass unless they have a service to fertilize because of the bagging.


Gravatardoes anyone honestly think we've accomplished anything in the "war on drugs?"

Sure. Most of the weed you get nowadays is kinda shitty.

Victory!


GravatarJP- it's because you're bacteria, get it straight, alright?

titter. straight.


GravatarAfternoon, all.
Gummo | 11.11.06 - 5:33 pm | #


Hallooooooo!!!!!!!!


GravatarSure. Most of the weed you get nowadays is kinda shitty.

Is that why meth is so popular?


GravatarFrom the department of aggressive spin ...

Although some glitz has come off Mr Rove, Republicans have been more eager to blame botched campaigns and individual ethics scandals. “Bob Sherwood’s seat [in Pennsylvania] would have been overwhelmingly ours, if his mistress hadn’t whined about being throttled,” said Mr Norquist. Any lessons from the campaign? “Yes. The lesson should be, don’t throttle mistresses.”
I guess it would at least be a start.

-- Josh Marshall
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/


Gravatari love being gay.
chicago dyke

Me too. As difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.
Ô¿Ô


I love being me.


Gravatarhey, steve.

would a live soundboard of simon & garfunkle circa 1970 backed by a full band cheer you up?


GravatarHaloscan is begining to crash.


GravatarI could change a few minds around here, trust me.


GravatarI love being me.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


I love being me.

I think you're onto something there.


GravatarI could change a few minds around here, trust me.
slutty jewish girl


That's true --

she could turn us all gay!


Gravatarother than enrich the prison industry, corrupt law enforcement, piss off millions in drug growing regions, lock up and disenfranchise millions of black, brown and poor people, and give republicans and racists the cover they need to keep on being racist?
chicago dyke


Don't leave out arming military juntas in South and Central America to keep the local populations in check. Plus all that lovely heroin money to fund CIA black ops with--Daddy Bush must be pleased!


GravatarNew official Bush portrait released:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/fdHqwl1m.jpg


GravatarToday's final Curly review, but plenty more tomorrow or Monday...
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GravatarAs difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.

I'm puzzled. Since when do you have a choice?
pie


Where in my comment do I imply a choice. What's meant is before I was born, perhaps a cosmic ray hadn't passed through me in the womb or whatever the reason, I was a homo. But I've never hated being gay and it's alot of fun sometimes.


GravatarI could change a few minds around here, trust me.
slutty jewish girl


Call Ted Haggard. NOW!


GravatarI might as well love being me --

it's not like I have any options.


GravatarBolton must go!


"US vetoes motion on Gaza attack

The US has vetoed a UN Security Council resolution condemning an Israeli attack in Gaza that killed 18 civilians, including women and children.

The draft, which also condemned Israeli military operations in Gaza, followed Wednesday's attack in Beit Hanoun.

The US ambassador at the UN, John Bolton, described the text as unbalanced and politically motivated.

Ten of 15 Security Council members backed the resolution. Four abstained - Denmark, Japan, Slovakia and the UK."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 6139968.stm



Haloscan is begining to crash.
Moe Szysla


Haloscan is always crashing, and we are still at war with Oceania.


Gravatarwould a live soundboard of simon & garfunkle circa 1970 backed by a full band cheer you up?
Gummo | 11.11.06 - 5:38 pm | #


Not a huge fan, but thanks for asking.

Of course, if you had a live soundboard of Tom and Jerry.....


GravatarI'm puzzled. Since when do you have a choice?
pie


tell me about it. i tried to be with men, really, for years. and look how that turned out: ruination, depression, despair. shit, my skin even stopped with those annoying pimple thingys once i accepted the facts, and got with the tribadist program. men are cool, they should just be my friends. except for JP, because he thinks he knows more about Macs than I do.


GravatarI really do think the Democrats aren't going to relinquish power again for awhile. The sheer amount of bad shit the Repugs have pulled has completely stripped the party of trustworthiness. For real. There is a poll that says so very clearly.
Tena


Given demographics I think the Dems should hold power, at least in the House, for a generation -- unless they get greedy and corrupt.

And now that we've got a party machinery that understands how to fight, there's no reason not to increase the margin every single cycle....


GravatarBolton must go!
"US vetoes motion on Gaza attack
The US has vetoed a UN Security Council resolution condemning an Israeli attack in Gaza that killed 18 civilians, including women and children. The draft, which also condemned Israeli military operations in Gaza, followed Wednesday's attack in Beit Hanoun. The US ambassador at the UN, John Bolton, described the text as unbalanced and politically motivated. Ten of 15 Security Council members backed the resolution. Four abstained - Denmark, Japan, Slovakia and the UK.".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 6139968.stm


Haloscan is begining to crash.
Moe Szysla

Haloscan is always crashing, and we are still at war with Oceania.


Gravataruh, that last slutty jewish girl post about Simon and Garfunkel was me.


I regret the gender confusion.


Gravatarchicago dyke: JP- it's because you're bacteria, get it straight, alright?

titter. straight.


No matter how rough we play, you know I love you, right? I hope you'll come to the soon-to-be Gnashvegan mini-Eschaton, coming spring/summer 2007. I owe you a hug... but watch out. I've been known to cop a cheap feel.
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GravatarBut I've never hated being gay and it's alot of fun sometimes.

Then you're happy about it, and I'm happy about being heterosexual, and we're both happy.

It's who we are.


GravatarAnd now that we've got a party machinery that understands how to fight, there's no reason not to increase the margin every single cycle....
flory, keeper of the list


That's what I think, too.


GravatarBut I've never hated being gay and it's alot of fun sometimes.
Ô¿Ô | 11.11.06 - 5:40 pm | #


You're gay?

Who knew?


Gravatarchicago dyke: except for JP, because he thinks he knows more about Macs than I do.

Pshaw! No thinkin' required. I've forgotten more about Macs than you ever knew. I never took any of mine in for repair 'cause of a software config issue. What kind of geek could show their face after THAT?!
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GravatarI've been known to cop a cheap feel.

I tink that might be an expensive one to take.


GravatarS.F. assemblyman to propose law barring 49ers from using 'San Francisco' if they move.
Moe Szyslak


General consensus is he's fulla shit. Ain't no trademark on the name.


Gravatarspeaking of cocksuckers, via america blog:

It seems that religious right leader Lou Shelon has some questions to answer, including: Who else among the religious right leaders knew Haggard was gay and did nothing about it?

From Jewish Week, via Talk2Action and dogemperor:


Sheldon disclosed that he and “a lot” of others knew about Haggard’s homosexuality “for awhile ... but we weren’t sure just how to deal with it.”

Months before a male prostitute publicly revealed Haggard’s secret relationship with him, and the reverend’s drug use as well, “Ted and I had a discussion,” explained Sheldon, who said Haggard gave him a telltale signal then: “He said homosexuality is genetic. I said, no it isn’t. But I just knew he was covering up. They need to say that.”

Boy, Lou Sheldon sure is up on his gay code. I didn't realize that people who think being gay is genetic - like, uh, scientists who have actually studied it - are per se all gay because they think it's genetic. What a fascinating man. And a hypocrite.


GravatarCrazy ass thought for the day: Just heard a caller on FOX suggest a Giuliani/Lynn Cheney ticket for 08. Cause she did such a good job with Blitzer. Looks like the election pushed some teetering folks completely around the bend.


GravatarAlong with civil unions, the pro-pot initiative went down hard in CO this week.
JeffCO |


Yeah, I said that myself way upstream.

*sigh* I had such hopes. Was it killed by the front range fundies?


Gravatartell me about it. i tried to be with men, really, for years. and look how that turned out: ruination, depression, despair.

It shouldn't have to happen to anyone.

May you have the love of a good woman and a lot of friendship and fun until you find her.


GravatarI love being me. NT'odd

I never took the smile away from anybody's face.


GravatarI owe you a hug... but watch out. I've been known to cop a cheap feel.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


that's fine. i love breaking wrists of cheap str8 feeling up men. and ntodd can tell you the fine details of what i can do with a riding crop.

/cause you said "rough."/


GravatarJeffraham! I just arrived and you're bitching about Macs! Tsk tsk tsk


GravatarIt kinda creeps me out that Lou Sheldon thinks he has gaydar.


GravatarThat's great...anyone who says homosexuality might be genetic gets the Fundamentalist Body Snatcher screech:

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebuuuuuuuke!


GravatarHola.
I'm watching "A Very British Coup".

Good stuff.

The late, great Ray McNally.


GravatarYou're gay?

Who knew


a friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay..instead of the other way around. It helps keep your mind active and that prevents some of the effects of agings


Gravatar*sigh* I had such hopes. Was it killed by the front range fundies? Tena

Hard to say - a lot of them must have also voted for Ritter for Gov, but we don't seem to have changed much since the Amendment 2 days. Or were you talking about the pot?


Gravatarntodd can tell you the fine details of what i can do with a riding crop.


Is it warm in here or is it just me?


GravatarIt kinda creeps me out that Lou Sheldon thinks he has gaydar.
Moe Szyslak


And just how fine tuned would your gaydar have to be to wonder about ol' Pastor Ted?


Gravatarbonsoir Moe. Did you see you will be the guest of honour at the Liberal convention in a couple of weeks? Howard Dean! The convention is in Montréal, i might go give him a bouquet of flowers!


GravatarCrazy ass thought for the day: Just heard a caller on FOX suggest a Giuliani/Lynn Cheney ticket for 08. Cause she did such a good job with Blitzer. Looks like the election pushed some teetering folks completely around the bend.


The birdcage ticket. That would be fun.


Gravatarthere is a history of senate dems giving republicans a free pass. when back in the early 90s, the dems were "investigating" if vaccines were cause for gulf war syndrome, dems didn't bother to put anybody under oath. people like general swartzkoff and collin powell were free obfuscate. senator rockefeller, in particular, was noteworthy for failing to respond with tough follow up questions, despite obvious lies from swartzkoff.

i've seen nothing but cowardice from rockefeller since then. if he's awarded an investigative committee, expect nothing but shit swept under the rug.


Gravatar I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.

This has been my firm view for nigh on thirty-five years.

Or should I say high on thirty-five years, give or take some long droughts...


GravatarIs it warm in here or is it just me?
steve simels


I'm pretty sure I just heard a {SPROING!!}} coming from a northeasterly direction....


Gravatara friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay

I certainly assume every conservative religious person who hates gays is gay.


GravatarIs it warm in here or is it just me?
steve simels


I got a welt on my thigh just reading that comment.


GravatarPlum P: Jeffraham! I just arrived and you're bitching about Macs! Tsk tsk tsk

Not at all -- I love Macs. I'd never been a successful web guy in the 1990s without them, 'cause I got my web server admin experience starting with Chuck Shotton's MacHTTP (later, WebSTAR). I did that on a rescued Centris 610.
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GravatarAnd there's nothing more American than pissing on the poor

O Robert - be fair. They did abolish debtors' prisons. What else can the ungrateful rabble want?




GravatarYou're gay?

I've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure.


GravatarI'm pretty sure I just heard a {SPROING!!}} coming from a northeasterly direction....

That was just Kayla snoring.


GravatarI didn't realize that people who think being gay is genetic - like, uh, scientists who have actually studied it - are per se all gay because they think it's genetic.

Apparently I need to have a serious talk with myself.


Gravatari've seen nothing but cowardice from rockefeller since then. if he's awarded an investigative committee, expect nothing but shit swept under the rug.
jello


There are enough overlapping committee jurisdictions that I'm not too worried something important will get buried.
Plus you've also got the House. Between Waxman and Conyers, not much is gonna go unanswered....


GravatarPlum! Yep, I posted about that yesterday. Dean will set our Libs straight, while the Dems fire him for being successful. Weird, that.

And Ignatief is going down in flames. It's fun to watch.


Gravatar“Yes. The lesson should be, don’t throttle mistresses.”

And the evangelicals will return to you in droves!


Gravatara friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay

I certainly assume every conservative religious person who hates gays is gay.
Thers


The most vociferous homophobes have the most "issues."


Gravatar"I've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure."
Thers

Nah, he's not gay.


Gravatar I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.

This has been my firm view for nigh on thirty-five years.

Or should I say high on thirty-five years, give or take some long drought


In Pima county AZ (Tucson) the law is that any new employee hires gets a drug test. I told the people who recently hired me about my narcotic use last winter due to surgery, doctor prescribed of course. They then raised the testing ante from a pee test to a hair snip. They didn't find anything besides the drug cocktails that the docs gave me, but still I was a bit disgruntled about this.


Gravatara friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay


i turned gay to celebrate pelosi becoming madam speaker.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.

It bothers me that something so personal should be anyone elses business.

He should not have to explain himself to anyone.

Because there is nothing too explain.


GravatarI called my local fundie nemesis at Alliance Defense Fund. We both write locally opposing each other. We used to exchange little terse emails. The tone of his emails always suggest I'm "tempting him over to the dark side" of something like Haggard wrote, just by me exchanging comments with him with email. Anyway, I asked him about the election and was it about "values" and since that's not the spin this time, was it about "no values." After years of dealing with these people, I instinctively just say something and hang up in their face. Anways, I told him I planned to return to the pages of my local rags and maybe some gay demostrations. Let ADL spend more money here for nothing. They pay him and many others for just my efforts locally.


GravatarI've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure.
Thers



And Ignatief is going down in flames. It's fun to watch.
Moe Szyslak

he tried to use Québec just to gain votes and it failed miserably. We'll have to get used to prime minister Rae I suppose.


GravatarIt kinda creeps me out that Lou Sheldon thinks he has gaydar.
Moe Szyslak


Lou Sheldon creeps me out.

Period!


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 5:53 pm |

showing off again, eh JP? who's got the date tonight, hmmm? that'll teach ya. she loves me for my hands, as well as my Mac. just a little advice.


...ok, i won't pick on you anymore. groper.


Gravatari turned gay to celebrate pelosi becoming madam speaker.
jello


You can't. Because if you can turn gay, then its not genetic. And if you believe its not genetic then you're not gay. QED.


Gravatar"I've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure."
Thers


Me and Lou Sheldon have been looking for tell-tale "signals," but so far have merely concluded that she belongs to an all-woman equestrian club.


Gravatar"And now that we've got a party machinery that understands how to fight, there's no reason not to increase the margin every single cycle...."
--flory, keeper of the list

That's what I think too. My husband is a bit more cynical. He suggests once their on the hill, the lobbyists will swag them.


GravatarOr were you talking about the pot?

Yes.


GravatarO Robert - be fair. They did abolish debtors' prisons. What else can the ungrateful rabble want?



Tena


And we've been going downhill since.

At least here in Houston we destroyed the freeway overpasses on I-10 so the homeless can't sleep under 'em anymore. And when the freeway is widened to 328 lanes, as it soon will be, the noise will be deafening, and the homeless won't be able to sleep!

Serves 'em right!


GravatarSpeaking of gaydar:

Sheldon disclosed that he and “a lot” of others knew about Haggard’s homosexuality “for awhile ... but we weren’t sure just how to deal with it.”

Months before a male prostitute publicly revealed Haggard’s secret relationship with him, and the reverend’s drug use as well, “Ted and I had a discussion,” explained Sheldon, who said Haggard gave him a telltale signal then: “He said homosexuality is genetic. I said, no it isn’t. But I just knew he was covering up. They need to say that.”
http://americablog.blogspot.com/


GravatarIn Pima county AZ (Tucson) the law is that any new employee hires gets a drug test. I told the people who recently hired me about my narcotic use last winter due to surgery, doctor prescribed of course. They then raised the testing ante from a pee test to a hair snip. They didn't find anything besides the drug cocktails that the docs gave me, but still I was a bit disgruntled about this.
Doug jumping for cholla


I've always had this silly idea that what one does on their OWN time is THEIR business.


Gravatarchicago dyke: Thers is asking if you're gay


GravatarLou Sheldon creeps me out. Period! Terry C

He's got the eyes of a stranger.


GravatarYou can't.

party pooper.


GravatarMy husband is a bit more cynical. He suggests once their on the hill, the lobbyists will swag them.
mer


No question they'll try. And some of them will succeed. It's pretty much up to us to make sure corruption doesn't become so endemic it destroys the party.


GravatarI just always thought chicago dyke was Venustian.


GravatarMe and Lou Sheldon have been looking for tell-tale "signals," but so far have merely concluded that she belongs to an all-woman equestrian club.

Really? I thought she was in an all girls softball team.


Gravatarshe loves me for my hands, as well as my Mac. just a little advice.

Is that a mouse in your pocket?


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.
It bothers me that something so personal should be anyone elses business.
He should not have to explain himself to anyone.
Because there is nothing too explain.
pigboy


did he still win?


GravatarNah, he's not gay.
mike in pr


sweetie, don't let the strap on fool you. unless you're that trannie that i had an embarrassing encounter with from behind that one night after too much vodka at XO, i'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender. my butch #3 gf just said last night, "your cuves put the 'femme' in femme."


GravatarI just always thought chicago dyke was Venustian.
Ô¿Ô


IIRC, the Tralfamadorians say it takes 3 sexes to procreate humans.

I've been meaning to ask Thers about this, actually.


GravatarIt's pretty much up to us to make sure corruption doesn't become so endemic it destroys the party.
flory

i think they know by now that the blogosphere can find any shit they do. They'll behave...or else.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.

it was his choice. bet the letting go of the burden of keeping it hidden must be so liberating.


GravatarI've been in and out getting dinner ready. Be back in a while.

Have I told everyone how happy I am? Damn, both the House and the Senate. I'm loving it.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.
It bothers me that something so personal should be anyone elses business.
He should not have to explain himself to anyone.
Because there is nothing too explain.
pigboy

did he still win?
jello | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:03 pm | #

Oh yeah and big. He has the reputation of doing a great job, which is suprising for the conservative area I live.


Gravatari think they know by now that the blogosphere can find any shit they do. They'll behave...or else.
Plum P


Such innocence...such naivete. It's so touching.

Somehow I don't think even left blogistan can fundamentally alter human nature.


GravatarSomehow I don't think even left blogistan can fundamentally alter human nature.
Rmj

yes we can! we have too! we're the last hope, sniff sniff!


GravatarLook who's back...

The Duggars have been pretty quiet of late.


GravatarAnd when the freeway is widened to 328 lanes, as it soon will be, the noise will be deafening, and the homeless won't be able to sleep!

Serves 'em right!


I'll say it does. If they had any self-respect in the first place, they'd go be homeless in Galveston or Corpus Christi, Port Aransas, you know - the coast! Instead of Houston which everyone knows is uninhabitable anyway.



GravatarSomehow I don't think even left blogistan can fundamentally alter human nature.
Rmj, Street Credentialed


Now, Robert -- plum has a point.

No we can't alter human behaviour, but my comment was that it was up to us to make sure corruption doesn't become endemic. Identify it early and get it the fuck outta the party, so it doesn't tarnish the decent men and women trying to do their jobs.

That we can at least help do.


Gravatari'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender

Do I sense a little teasing going on here?


GravatarI've said it many times before, but:

I've never done drugs, I have never had the desire to do drugs. I don't understand what the attraction is.

That said, I think the so-called War on Drugs is bullshit.

Legalize the stuff, regulate it,tax it, put the proceeds to good use, put the drug dealers out of business and the crime and violence with decrease.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.

it was his choice. bet the letting go of the burden of keeping it hidden must be so liberating.
jello | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:04 pm | #

That's true. I guess in a way he could be breaking down some walls of prejudice.


GravatarThe Duggars have been pretty quiet of late.

Pre-occupied with getting busy.


GravatarSorry -

the crime and violence WILL decrease.


Gravatarflory's right, and what's more, I do think some Democrats understand that we are out here and we're paying attention.

I really do.


Gravatari'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender.

I'm going to go drown myself in a puddle now.


Gravatari don't know, rmj. that seems a little harsh. the blogosphere brought down macacawitz, and put lamont on the map, if not in office. and more.

have some faith, o ye believer. things are changing, and if it's not quickly enough to make us happy, i certainly don't think we're ever going to go back to the days of "what? i never said/did/took that." the intertubes are a beautiful thing in this way. and macacas live forever.


Gravatar2006 Election... A Comedic Roundup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=F23LoQb4VPY

from c&l


Gravatar"Our bodies are meant to be a living sacrifice," write the Hesses. Or, as Mary Pride, in another of the movement's founding texts, The Way Home: Beyond Feminism, Back to Reality, puts it, "My body is not my own." This rebuttal of the feminist health text Our Bodies, Ourselves is deliberate. Quiverfull women are more than mothers. They're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce, homosexuality and child abuse, in that order.




Fuck off, whackjob.


GravatarSaturday Goddess Blogging is up.


Gravatarthe intertubes are a beautiful thing in this way. and macacas live forever.
chicago dyke

amen!


GravatarLet me say this - so far, the Democrats from whom we've heard understand very well that this election was about corruption, principally. It was also about Iraq, but the two are linked,anyway.

The Democrats will start to forget by and by and probably sooner rather than later. And so we'll have to remind them.


GravatarNO taxes on Drugs!


GravatarLook who's back...

The Duggars have been pretty quiet of late.
watertiger


Let's check back in in 15 years and see how many of those kids are in jail or rehab, shall we?


GravatarPre-occupied with getting busy.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


hopefully not you know where


GravatarPre-occupied with getting busy.

She must be up to 19 at this point.


GravatarSo "dyke" isn't your last name, chicago?


GravatarShut up liberals.

Remember:
Record Unemployment
Record DOW high
Great Economy
Low Gas prices $2.08avg
We are currently winning the war on terror

God Bless our President, and
God Bless our Troops


GravatarLook who's back...


Damn, we are amateurs....


GravatarLook who's back...


Mother of Mercy, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, Amen....


GravatarPoint of reference: here I am, a confirmed old heterosexual, albeit a timid and ineffectual one.

But I cannot countenance or fathom the unmitigated preposterous bullshit premise feeding the "debate" about whether gay persons may marry under the law.

The whole issue is pitched by the media as though each of us is a citizen-juror-- which, ipso facto, means an overwhelming majority of straights-- charged to ponder the freaky new question of gay marriage and render a verdict on whether "we" ought to "let" "them" have their marriage.

So the story is mostly just reported as "gay marriage-- the public won't have it". It's such a hot-button issue that politicians won't dare show leadership and address the "tyranny of the majority" embedded in the above-described social fantasy.

We seem stuck in the "separate but equal" rut at best; perhaps further progress is not possible until the younger generation, generally more tolerant of sexual identity, outnumber the permanent anti-gay constituencies, especially opposition based on religious belief.


GravatarThey're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce, homosexuality and child abuse, in that order.



Uh.......what the fuck?


Gravatarugh


Gravatari'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender

Do I sense a little teasing going on here?
____league |


Like Steve said, it's getting warm in here...


GravatarThe Democrats will start to forget by and by and probably sooner rather than later. And so we'll have to remind them.
Tena


That'll be our new job.


Gravatar Auggy- that message is why you loosers will continue to loose elections!


Gravatarteasing, moi? mais non. jamais.

oh, aquatigre, that's just sick. from her link:

But Wolfson, Moore and thousands of mothers like them call themselves and their belief system "Quiverfull." They borrow their name from Psalm 127: "Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate." Quiverfull mothers think of their children as no mere movement but as an army they're building for God.

Quiverfull parents try to have upwards of six children. They home-school their families, attend fundamentalist churches and follow biblical guidelines of male headship--"Father knows best"--and female submissiveness. They refuse any attempt to regulate pregnancy. Quiverfull began with the publication of Rick and Jan Hess's 1989 book, A Full Quiver: Family Planning and the Lordship of Christ, which argues that God, as the "Great Physician" and sole "Birth Controller," opens and closes the womb on a case-by-case basis. Women's attempts to control their own bodies--the Lord's temple--are a seizure of divine power.


barf. i'm just glad studies show a lot of kids from big families turn out to be so different from their parents, as a response to the lack of attention they receive.


GravatarRemember:
Record Unemployment


Hey augs -- you sure you wanna be bragging on this one?


Gravatar
Uh.......what the fuck?
steve simels


And no, they never make any provisions for the puir widow either.

Tchah.


GravatarGod Bless our President, and
God Bless our Troops
auggysback


you said you'd leave us after a democratic win

why are you a liar?

lies make baby jesus cry


GravatarAuggy, fire of my loins, how are ya, buddy?


GravatarGod Bless our President, and
God Bless our Troops

auggysback

amen.

kaboooooom!


GravatarSaturday Goddess Blogging is up.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspiratox,


Have I told you how much I love Saturday Goddess Blogging? I love it.


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.


GravatarShut up liberals.

Remember:


Shut up, Auggy.

Remember:

WE FUCKING WON!
THE HOUSE!
THE SENATE!
HUGE MANDATE!
GET OVER IT, LOOSER!


GravatarWhen are the Auggy/simels Jersey Nuptials?


GravatarThey're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce, homosexuality and child abuse, in that order.

she left out, out of control healthcare costs, stagnant wages, loss of pensions, attacks on social security, Medicare, Medicaid, cut backs in foodstamps, childcare, school funding. Working women who can't afford to have children is a symptom of a society in decline not a reflection of character.


Gravatarauggy seems to forget that america hates republicans and has nbow moved to the left


GravatarQuiverfull parents try to have upwards of six children. They home-school their families, attend fundamentalist churches and follow biblical guidelines of male headship--"Father knows best"--and female submissiveness.
**
This is so Santorum


GravatarAuggy are you still nursing that hangover?


Gravatar"Our bodies are meant to be a living sacrifice

Sweetheart, if that's how you see things, then have fun.

I don't give a shit what you do with your body. That's your business. If you want to make a sacrifice of it - be my guest. But don't ever make the mistake of thinking you get to make that choice for the rest of us. Cause you don't.


GravatarThank you, Tena!


Gravatarsome hot simels on auggy action
cause steve is obviously a top
and auggy acts like a bottom
and/or the gimp in Pulp Fiction


Gravatarauggy signed up to suck my dick.


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


And they were a means of Social Security after the parents (read widowed mother) could work no more. But now - can we say public tit without any public weal?


GravatarOur bodies are meant to be a living sacrifice

Sweetheart, if that's how you see things, then have fun.

I don't give a shit what you do with your body. That's your business. If you want to make a sacrifice of it - be my guest. But don't ever make the mistake of thinking you get to make that choice for the rest of us. Cause you don't.


Word. And if they're so damn secure in their choice, they won't need to make everyone else do the same thing to make themselves feel as if they made the right choice.


GravatarOh, no.

Auggy is here.

Liar. He said he wouldn't come back here if we took Congress.


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?

WalMart greeter or meth dealer would be my guess.


GravatarWhen are the Auggy/simels Jersey Nuptials?
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:19 pm | #



In case anybody's interested, we're registered at the Pink Pussycat boutique.


Gravatarolexicon: did you know Howard Dean will be the specail speaker at the Liberal convention in a couple of weeks? Should i go do my groupie thing with him since it's in Montréal?


GravatarUggh. I stopped when I got to "glory hoops."


Gravatarauggy signed up to suck my dick.
Ô¿Ô


I approve this message


GravatarWorking women who can't afford to have children is a symptom of a society in decline not a reflection of character.

I'm going to steal that.


GravatarIn case anybody's interested, we're registered at the Pink Pussycat boutique.
steve simels

link please!


GravatarJeez, so Augs is just a bot.

Only a bot wouldn't understand that the whole script just changed.

Someone reprogram the Aug bot and tell it that 11/7 changed everything.

Or, don't. Let it wander around spamming until it finally runs all the way down.


Gravatar--"Father knows best"--and female submissiveness.




Fuck..............that!


Gravatar? Should i go do my groupie thing with him since it's in Montréal?
Plum P |

heck I would
even if it is the Liberal Convention


GravatarAuggy, fire of my loins, how are ya, buddy?

Ah, Simels. You are da bestest, mang.


GravatarIn case anybody's interested, we're registered at the Pink Pussycat boutique.
steve simels | 11.11.06 - 6:22 pm | #

Has anyone bought those asschaps for Auggy yet?


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?


Lately? Overseeing NASA studies, overseeing NIH grants, and overseeing the "reconstruction" of Iraq.


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?



Crack whores, meth manufacturers, cocaine dealers........


GravatarHas anyone bought those asschaps for Auggy yet?
pigboy


I bought the biker from the Village People outfit which i believe is his wedding gown


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


I remember investigating a very old graveyard in Nacogdoches, TX (oldest town in Texas) one autumn afternoon.

A family plot told the story of the family. The father outlived two wives (one of whom died in childbirth; the child was there, too) and all of his 7 or so children, including one that died in his 20's.

A sad tale, but not an uncommon one, for 100 or so years ago.


GravatarWord. And if they're so damn secure in their choice, they won't need to make everyone else do the same thing to make themselves feel as if they made the right choice.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


If its all about female submissiveness, didn't they by definition *not* make a choice? Wasn't their *choice* forced upon them by that dominant male in their lives?

So how can they talk about movements and activism when they're basically just doing what they're told?


GravatarLately? Overseeing NASA studies, overseeing NIH grants, and overseeing the "reconstruction" of Iraq.

It says that directly:

"After arguing Scripture, the Hesses point to a number of more worldly effects that a Christian embrace of Quiverfull could bring. "When at the height of the Reagan Revolution," they write, "the conservative faction in Washington was enforced [sic] with squads of new conservative congressmen, legislators often found themselves handcuffed by lack of like-minded staff. There simply weren't enough conservatives trained to serve in Washington in the lower and middle capacities." But if just 8 million American Christian couples began supplying more "arrows for the war" by having six children or more, they propose, the Christian-right ranks could rise to 550 million within a century ("assuming Christ does not return before then"). They like to ponder the spiritual victory that such numbers could bring: both houses of Congress and the majority of state governor's mansions filled by Christians; universities that embrace creationism; sinful cities reclaimed for the faithful; and the swift blows dealt to companies that offend Christian sensibilities."


GravatarI bought the biker from the Village People outfit which i believe is his wedding gown
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:25 pm | #

dreamy


GravatarExtreme Close Up Kitten Picture

http://kitten-picture.blogspot.c...en- picture.html


Gravatar"They're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce"


Excuse ME for wanting a life of my own.

As for divorce, I suppose these idiots want people who have grown to hate one another to "stay together for the sake of the kids."

Like making children live in a warzone is SO beneficial to them!


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?


When I was a kid there were some people up the street like this. When the kids finally got out of the house, they both predictably, had severe problems adjusting to normal life.


GravatarThe repukes always knew they never had anything really to begin with that's why they so quickly fizzeled out and faded into oblivion.


Gravatarin what state is Auggy and Steve doing it?


GravatarIf its all about female submissiveness, didn't they by definition *not* make a choice? Wasn't their *choice* forced upon them by that dominant male in their lives?

So how can they talk about movements and activism when they're basically just doing what they're told?
flory, keeper of the list


They're not people - they're walking, talking incubators.


GravatarAh, Simels. You are da bestest, mang.
watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:23 pm |


As I've said before -- if I had blood I'd be blushing.


GravatarIf its all about female submissiveness, didn't they by definition *not* make a choice? Wasn't their *choice* forced upon them by that dominant male in their lives?
And they don't seem to interview any husbands, just wives.

It's the Phyllis Schlaffly conundrum.


GravatarOh, and in case you were unsure, those Purity Balls are federally funded.


GravatarWhen I was a kid there were some people up the street like this. When the kids finally got out of the house, they both predictably, had severe problems adjusting to normal life.
Falstaff


It's a safe bet that those kids couldn't WAIT to get the fuck OUT of THAT house.


GravatarLately? Overseeing NASA studies, overseeing NIH grants, and overseeing the "reconstruction" of Iraq.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Let's hope 11/7 changes everything....


Gravatari got auggy his pony gear getup. simels will have fun with that, and the riding crop. i hear auggy blows better when he's tearful.


GravatarAh, kids from big families do okay. They just get the hell away from their siblings is all.

I think the home-schooling thing is more of an issue, because they'll be dumb and narrow-minded.


Gravatarin what state is Auggy and Steve doing it?
Plum P |


I believe Steve announced New Jersey


Gravatarin what state is Auggy and Steve doing it?
Plum P | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:27 pm | #


Jersey. I popped the question to him right after Jersey approved gay marriage.

I proposed with the traditional "Just blow me, okay? By which I mean again."

It was tres romantic.


Gravatari got auggy his pony gear getup. simels will have fun with that, and the riding crop. i hear auggy blows better when he's tearful.


...ah, beloved haloscum. eschaton just wouldn't be the same without your little tantrums.


Gravatari hear auggy blows better when he's tearful.
chicago dyke


That is officially the funniest thing I've read all week


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


And yet pretty much every pre-modern society had means of limiting population growth, ranging from drugs and plants that prevented conception, to aborticides, to infanticide.


GravatarI was at a loss what to get auggy for his bridal shower, then I got an error message saying I was missing a colon separator.

That's the ticket!


GravatarI'm going to go drown myself in a puddle now.

*Splash!*

We'll be waiting to crunch some Ntodd bones.


GravatarWhat's better:

Roses on a piano, or tulips on an organ?





Think about it!


Gravatarboth houses of Congress and the majority of state governor's mansions filled by Christians; universities that embrace creationism; sinful cities reclaimed for the faithful; and the swift blows dealt to companies that offend Christian sensibilities."

And yet, every Saturday morning, in my little eruv, I see happy Jewish families on the way to temple, Mummy, Papa, and four, five, six children, one or two in perambulators.... Ya know, the thing about having babies? Even folks who aren't one with Christ can do it....


GravatarAnd the quiver brats are probably going to be all home-schooled, insuring that we will have all these Auggys running around.

Jebus Chripes on iceskates.


GravatarWord. And if they're so damn secure in their choice, they won't need to make everyone else do the same thing to make themselves feel as if they made the right choice.

You know what this made me suddenly flash on? Doonesbury, when Uncle Duke was in charge of American Samoa. There was an entire story line about the reluctant volcano virgin.

Sorry, but that's what flashed right into the frontal lobes.


GravatarI proposed with the traditional "Just blow me, okay? By which I mean again."

It was tres romantic.

steve simels | 11.11.06 - 6:29 pm | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
what a hoot! you are a romantic


GravatarIt was tres romantic.

steve simels



Gravatarboth houses of Congress and the majority of state governor's mansions filled by Christians; universities that embrace creationism; sinful cities reclaimed for the faithful; and the swift blows dealt to companies that offend Christian sensibilities."




Fundies offend ME.


Gravatarthe colon seperator?

that's more for summer weddings


Gravatara bloodless romantic!


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.


GravatarI think the home-schooling thing is more of an issue, because they'll be dumb and narrow-minded.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


That was my point. I see nothing wrong with a big family if its because you like kids and want a houseful, but to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

And I don't see a lot of success in the future of most of those kids.


GravatarThe Quiver Morons talk like the Nazis did 60 years ago.


GravatarAnd yet pretty much every pre-modern society had means of limiting population growth, ranging from drugs and plants that prevented conception, to aborticides, to infanticide.
Moe Szyslak


My angel, in Western and Central Europe, such knowledge was women's wit, held by wisewomen - and good, g_dfearing Christians steered clear. Not of course, infanticide however. Prevention was regarded as against the will of the Lord. Termination, not so much.


GravatarI proposed with the traditional "Just blow me, okay? By which I mean again."

It was tres romantic.
steve simels


*sniff* Always a bridesmaid, borrowed and blue...


GravatarSorry - 70 years ago.


Gravatarthe fundies kids revolt will become an historical event


GravatarA family plot told the story of the family. The father outlived two wives (one of whom died in childbirth; the child was there, too) and all of his 7 or so children, including one that died in his 20's.

A sad tale, but not an uncommon one, for 100 or so years ago.
Rmj, Street Credentialed


There are so many like that around here where the mother and child died during childbirth. Also, you can see where many escaped the worst of the Civil War as refugees by movning here. They'll list place of birth in Georgia or South Carolina but died here. I think that's what that's about.


GravatarWhen I was a kid there were some people up the street like this. When the kids finally got out of the house, they both predictably, had severe problems adjusting to normal life.

Natural born military recruits. This blows out of the water any possibility of family values winning over. The military culture is powerful in itself, and would corrupt their fundie values.


GravatarExtreme Close Up Kitten Picture

http://kitten-picture.blogspot.c...en- picture.html
Plum P | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:26 pm | #

you're not a kidding that is a close up for sure....... funny thing is, it looks like cats have their hair outside the nose rather than in it. It sure would make nose hair trimming easier for humans.


Gravatarthis kitten rivals my own for the award for cutest ever. damn you, plum, like i needed another time sinking website. /shakes paw/


GravatarThat was my point. I see nothing wrong with a big family if its because you like kids and want a houseful, but to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

And I don't see a lot of success in the future of most of those kids.
flory, keeper of the list



Gonna be a lot of heroin addicts there.


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


a new 1960s
rebellion against American Puritanism


Gravatar
And I don't see a lot of success in the future of most of those kids.


Not without actual educations.

On the other hand, their critical thinking will kick in in high gear once they figure out how fucked up their childhoods were. Like Molly Ivors says about Southern liberals and race: once you figure out the're lying to you about that, you know they're lying to you about everything.


Gravatar*sniff* Always a bridesmaid, borrowed and blue...
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:34 pm | #


What can I tell you...I flit from flower to flower...


Gravatar but to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

No shit. It's like they're breeding serial killers in every litter.


GravatarOh, Auggy's here.

Don't worry, Auggy, Democrats are pretty magnanimous in victory.

*snerk*

No, we're not.


GravatarIf the girls are giving daddy their purity in a little pink box, why doed daddy cut off his BALLs and put them in a little blue-for-boys box and give them to the daughter.

If ball-less daddy ceased producing children as a result of Purity Balls, I'm all for it.

np:44


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


As I pointed out earlier -- that'll be the ones that aren't in jail or rehab by then....


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*sniff* Always a bridesmaid, borrowed and blue...


Awww, c'mon over here. I have a brother....


GravatarMany folks think that MTV's "Real World" was the forerunner of reality shows.

I think it was this program called "An American Family" about the Loud family shown on PSB in the early '70's.


GravatarPSB=PBS


GravatarA sad tale, but not an uncommon one, for 100 or so years ago.
Rmj, Street Credentialed



But...but...THOSE were the GOOD old days. Things were better back then.

/wingnut


GravatarAlso, you can see where many escaped the worst of the Civil War as refugees by movning here. They'll list place of birth in Georgia or South Carolina but died here. I think that's what that's about.
Ô¿Ô


There's a whole fair-sized section of the cemetary where my people are buried here in Phoenix, dating to the 1870s & 1880s, where the headstones record birthplaces of Georgia, Texas, Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama - men who came west after the war, to start again - some are recorded as born slaves, died as cowboys....


GravatarI think the Duggars' oldest girls should be hitting 15 or so now. Are they going to marry them off now?


Gravatarmy Huskies arer still winning
and the Vanier Cup is in Saskatoon


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


Oh, great, that's just what we need. thousands of socially repressed 18 to 20 year olds, moving to "cool" cities just so they can end up crack-whores, and homeless junkies.

Cause you know, their parent's will disown them, and that is exactly how they will end up.


GravatarLike Molly Ivors says

Errrr, Molly Ivins.


Gravatara bloodless romantic!
Plum P


hold on. um, i thought blood was a key element to the, um, process of being something to blow. simels is filled with what? milk? wine? the frothy mix of...no, i won't go there.

there's some pr0n that even i won't do.


GravatarNo shit. It's like they're breeding serial killers in every litter.
Tena



GravatarI realise that the dems do not hold sway over foreign policy, but at some point, someone is going to have to have a sit down with the radical islamists. Because at the rate 43 is heading, we will lose this so called WOT. Already, we have no ally that is capable of creating a decisive victory over these people. We are going to have to find some kind of neutral ideology that they and us can come to an agreement to cease hostilities. Preferably before the entire world goes up in flames. Someone is going to have to begin by just raising the point. At some time, we all have to realise that bombs and bullets are not going to solve the problems that both sides percieve as threats. I just hope that this happens soon.


GravatarOn the other hand, their critical thinking will kick in in high gear once they figure out how fucked up their childhoods were.

I wonder tho if it won't be too late for them by then.


Gravatarbut to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

No shit. It's like they're breeding serial killers in every litter.
Tena



Genetic Russian Roulette, too.

If you have THAT many kids, chances are one or two of them are going to have serious physical or mental handicaps.


GravatarOh, great, that's just what we need. thousands of socially repressed 18 to 20 year olds, moving to "cool" cities just so they can end up crack-whores, and homeless junkies.

Cause you know, their parent's will disown them, and that is exactly how they will end up.
David (Austin Tx)


Doesn't Austin have enough problems?


GravatarRun NTodd, they're on to ya!


GravatarAnd another question:

HOW do you have the time and energy, not to mention the financial means, to take care of 15 kids?????????


Gravatarthe fundies kids revolt will become an historical event
Plum P


Long live the PKRAP!

All hail the glorious Preachers Kids Righteously Against Prudes!

You have nothing to lose but your control!


GravatarI think the Duggars' oldest girls should be hitting 15 or so now. Are they going to marry them off now?
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


Did they get their little pink boxes?


GravatarI remember seeing Blind Melon's "no rain" video (remember the Bee Girl, who went from place to place trying to find somewhere she fit in, until she came across a meadow filled with other kids in bee suits?) followed by Soul Asylum's "runaway train" video, with all the missing kid posters.


Gravatarhold on. um, i thought blood was a key element to the, um, process of being something to blow. simels is filled with what? milk? wine? the frothy mix of...no, i won't go there.

chicago dyke

i was just quoting him, look:

As I've said before -- if I had blood I'd be blushing.
steve simels | 11.11.06 - 6:27 pm |


Gravatarchidy -
I tried to be with men, really, for years. and look how that turned out: ruination, depression, despair. shit, my skin even stopped with those annoying pimple

I've been married for 25 years, and all that stuff happens to me. Maybe the problem is being with one man.

np:44


GravatarOh, great, that's just what we need. thousands of socially repressed 18 to 20 year olds, moving to "cool" cities just so they can end up crack-whores, and homeless junkies.



I recently read where a lot of porn stars grew up in overly religious homes.


Gravatardating to the 1870s & 1880s, where the headstones record birthplaces of Georgia, Texas, Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama - men who came west after the war, to start again - some are recorded as born slaves, died as cowboys....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers


They have the black rodeo circuit in town here this week. I think people left seeking new frontiers. There's not that old escape for ushere in the New World anymore like that.


GravatarGreetings kiddies! Back from the theatre and a film called Babel. Very thought provoking. I just thought there would be answers at the end. Very disappointing that.


Gravatar"An American Family"

Excellent show. Cinema verite of the dysfuntional but loving American family dynamic. Well worth getting on DVD if that exists, probably not. More like a cappucino-staines but still viewable vhs in some obscure Salvation Army bargain bin by serendipity.


GravatarMany folks think that MTV's "Real World" was the forerunner of reality shows.

i just read in one of DC's weekly gay mags that the Mr. Gay American contest included one man who entered the contest just after succeeding in a court case...to preserve his rights to the video in which he is fisting a "real world" member from a few years back.

auggy, would that make a better gift than the bridle? 'cause i think i can get it.

...haloscum is about to get fisted, i'll tell you that...


GravatarAnd Tena, flory, et al-- I heartily agree on the issue of keeping the newly-empowered Democrats from quietly tiptoeing away from confronting the criminal underbelly of the present regime.

Yes, I am going to go berserk about this, possibly getting on everyone's nerves in the process and wearing out my welcome. I'm as passionate about "social justice" as Tena is about "We the People". I truly believe that the transition from the Compassionate State to the Hollow State which began with Reagan, and was not reversed by any succeeding administration, dumped the baby of "social justice" out with the bathwater of "oversized government".

I'll stop as soon as I feel those dried-spit bubbles forming at the corners of my mouth. In the meantime: one of the shucks underpinning the Corporatized Hollow State is that a business model is universal and the one and only approach to managing delivery of services. So things are pretty much organized according to cost/benefit precepts.

And from this perspective, social justice is a money pit. It's not one of those attractive win-win opportunities, such as politicians combining with businesses in some boondoggle. It's about seeking justice for high crimes and misdemeanors on behalf of all of the nameless, faceless citizens who were harmed by the cabal's excesses.

PS: See the “Common Dreams” article “What the Democrats Should Do Now” by Robert B. Reich. http://www.commondreams.org/view...s06/1109- 30.htm

In case you don’t have the time or interest to check it out (like Reich himself, it’s very short), it basically argues that Democrats should accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative now that they’re back in charge of the legislative branch—or the remaining stump of it.

Here’s the gist: “Some Democrats want to expose the malfeasance and nonfeasance of the Bush Administration – find out who really knew what and when with regard to weapons of mass destruction, Abu Graahb, Katrina, payoffs to Abramoff and all the other rot. That’s understandable, but it would be far better if Democrats used their new-found power to lay out a new agenda for America.

There’s no point digging up more dirt.”

This article gave me the whim-whams. It's standard fare from DLC and Clintonista Democrats, IMO.


GravatarHOW do you have the time and energy, not to mention the financial means, to take care of 15 kids?????????
Terry C, An American Again


You don't. Trust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.


Gravatari turned gay to celebrate pelosi becoming madam speaker.
jello

You can't. Because if you can turn gay, then its not genetic. And if you believe its not genetic then you're not gay. QED.
flory, keeper of the list


Such a simple concept.

Why don't people get it?


Gravatarman I'm missing like every third letter. It's been a rough half-decade.


GravatarHello everybody. I've been following the conversation for the last little while, don't have much to add, just saying hello. Happy first post-w-era weekend.


GravatarGreeting, rational people.


Gravatar I see nothing wrong with a big family if its because you like kids and want a houseful,

I know that this is unpopular and will get me flamed, but the Earth can't support large families. There are too many people here. See, e.g., Gaia's Revenge by James Lovelock. I'd like us to find solutions that DON'T involve governmental control, but if that's going to happen, it's going to need to happen globally and quickly, say, in the next 20 years or so.


GravatarMolly,

check here for all the latest!


GravatarRun NTodd, they're on to ya!

Barry from Alaska



damn you Barry,you made me cough!


GravatarDid they get their federally funded little pink boxes?

fixed yer typo.


GravatarThis article gave me the whim-whams. It's standard fare from DLC and Clintonista Democrats, IMO.

Not going to happen.

It's conciliatory stuff until the shit hits the fan.


GravatarTrust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.

Amen. As the oldest daughter from a large, Catholic family, I have HUGE issues around this. HUGE. It's JUST NOT RIGHT. Those girls deserve childhoods.


GravatarTrust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.

Amen. As the oldest daughter from a large, Catholic family, I have HUGE issues around this. HUGE. It's JUST NOT RIGHT. Those girls deserve childhoods.


GravatarNah, those kids aren't going to start thinking critically at age 20 or 21 or whenever they realize the world doesn't work the way mommy & daddy taught them. They won't have the tools to do any critical thinking -- remember, homeschooled? No, they'll rebel by handing over control to some other authoritarian culture -- a cult, a gang, an abusive marriage, the neo-nazis. The healthier ones will be able to join the military and get some sort of an education, maybe even learn a trade -- but I'm guessing most of them won't have the tools to be able to think through what their parents indoctrinated them with. Jeez.


GravatarShut up liberals.

auggysback


Hey, Auggy.

Great win by Sugar Tits Harris Tuesday night.


Gravatarthat's not a family, it's a cult


GravatarOne reason Clinton's early years were such a disaster is because there weren't any experienced executive staff around the White House. His staff didn't know how to play the game and they got pwned.
flory


that's being generous. to this day, clinton insists on providing cover for his so called enemies. you know how many speeches he has given? where he rattles off a list of criminal conservapukes, then insists they are all good men who want nothing but the best for the country.

failure to play hardball is a clintonite acolyte trademark. especially visible during the early days of 9/11 and iraq war, when dems didn't even want to talk about holding bush accountable for his failures. you had to drag them kicking and screaming just to get them away from standing shoulder to shoulder with the bastard.


GravatarYou don't. Trust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.

I actually recommend clicking on the link I provided to Molly; it's incredibly informative, even if it doesn't mean to be.


GravatarAmen. As the oldest daughter from a large, Catholic family, I have HUGE issues around this. HUGE. It's JUST NOT RIGHT. Those girls deserve childhoods.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Oldest of six, Hecate.

I hear ya!


GravatarI recently read where a lot of porn stars grew up in overly religious homes.
Terry C, An American Again!


And there are a surprising number of porn stars who say they are Christian, as well.