I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarPelosi!


GravatarConyers!


GravatarRazorbacks!


GravatarI'm out of breath and my knees are killing me. What happened to the train thread?

gwb:drf


GravatarNo more Lexapro!


GravatarMatthew Sweet!


Gravatar[shakes fist, withholds Curly]
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GravatarIMFUCKINGPEACHMENT


GravatarHitler's Thousand Year Reich

and

Gingrich's Permanent Republican Majority

They both lasted 12 years.
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GravatarTPM

Razorbacks/Gators sec championship?


GravatarI love all the handwringing and concern about Dem chairpersons. They would have to burn the capitol down to be more damaging to the institution and government than the GOP were.


GravatarThe repukes will never gain control of Congress again. Maybe they will the presidency with some charasmatic dunce in my lifetime but never Congress again.


Gravatar11/7 Changed Everything!

Deal with it, brownshirts...


GravatarThis is why I'm looking forward to Pelosi's first 100 hours.

I expect her approval rating to rise above 40% quickly after that. Unlike W.'s.


Gravatarbut most of that was the post-9/11 era where they basically let Bush control everything.

PATRIOT ACT.......REPEAL!!!!!


GravatarScooteraham Jeffratonian, for those who missed the good, good news...
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GravatarThe Democrats get to govern, without being restrained by the neo cons. Tanks god!


GravatarYeah, good thing that Dem-controlled Senate full of heroes like Kerry and Edwards and Clinton blocked that Iraq War Resolution.


GravatarJeffraham, that curly is one fine looking tiger cat.


GravatarAs soon as Bush started regularly lying in SOTU addresses without a peep of complaint from congress, I knew the GOP had completely abdicated their constitutional role.

It will be nice to see the institution of congress yank back some of that which had been yielded by the rightists.


GravatarMatthew Sweet! TinyPorcelainMouse

I've been listening to Girlfriend this week. Damn that's a fine album!


GravatarIt is quite freaky to realize that since 1995, except for a few months in 2001, the Democrats haven't controlled either the House or Senate.

Yes, and that explains why everything that has happened since the 2000 election is all their fault -- and good for the Republicans.
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Gravatarhttp://cbaker.org/blog/bush-mccain.jpg

http://cbaker.org/blog/bush-mccain.jpg


Gravatar Yeah, good thing that Dem-controlled Senate full of heroes like Kerry and Edwards and Clinton blocked that Iraq War Resolution.

Who called them 'heroes', clod?


GravatarI guess Some Dude hasn't been paying attention, as Edwards, last time I checked, isn't in the Senate.

come back when you wake up, troll.


GravatarWho called them 'heroes', clod?

He got a brand new USB iStrawman from Amazon.com. It talks.


GravatarAs soon as Bush started regularly lying in SOTU addresses without a peep of complaint from congress, I knew the GOP had completely abdicated their constitutional role.

It will be nice to see the institution of congress yank back some of that which had been yielded by the rightists.
underwhelm, gloaty


Yeah, in addition to every fucking thing else, they broke Congress. And we have to fix it.

Jesus fucking christ, I'm so sick of this.


GravatarYeah, good thing that D--

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...


GravatarAnd I'm currently listening to the best album recorded in the 90's: Neutral Milk Hotel's In The Aeroplane Over the Sea.


Gravatarfluffy little clouds cloying cloisters curling in your dhim looserness you dhims are all dhoomed bvd ascap nimby uaw pms mst3k msg iokiyar.

I can keep doing the abbreviations forever, btw.


GravatarNo more Lexapro!

HUZZAH!


GravatarI see my fiance's here.


GravatarTPM

Razorbacks/Gators sec championship?
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | 11.11.06 - 4:04 pm | #

Matthew Sweet! TinyPorcelainMouse

I've been listening to Girlfriend this week. Damn that's a fine album!
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:08 pm | #


Mrs...Unless there's a monumental meltdown.

JC...Along with about three other CD's from the 90's, not a bad song on it.


GravatarI see my fiance's here.

Aw, how sweet. But something tells me the honeymoon's over before it began.


GravatarNo more Lexapro!

HUZZAH!
watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:11 pm | #


Pinch me WT.


No, seriously, pinch me.


GravatarThis is why I'm looking forward to Pelosi's first 100 hours. I expect her approval rating to rise above 40% quickly after that. Unlike W.'s. Rmj

O'Donnell on McLaughlin yesterday predicted that if she allows Alcee Hastings to take over the Intelligence Committee, they will lose the House in 2008. Something about not being serious about reform.


GravatarI've been listening to Girlfriend this week. Damn that's a fine album!
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:08 pm | #


My second favorite CD this year is the 60s cover album by Sweet and Susanna Hoffs.

Wow!!!!!


GravatarBefore the Vietnamese War two Senators voted against the Tonking Gulf Resolution.

Senator Morse and Gruening refused to be stampeded by the LBJ administration.

They were right and everyone else was wrong. You would think that the Senate would have considered that before giving the depraved moron the power to make war in Iraq.

Very few ever pay attention to history. And so it's repeated ad nauseum.....


GravatarSeems to me, Democrats have been cleaning up after Repugs for most of my adult life.

Gets old, it does.


Gravataryes I was listening to the song "girlfriend" lately too


GravatarSome dude sucked my dick.


GravatarScooteraham Jeffratonian, for those who missed the good, good news...

You got a helmet for that thing?


GravatarThat should have been, "The Tonkin Gulf," not "Tonking."

My bad.


GravatarJeffCO

it seems the Harman thing is gonna have to be the first issue Pelosi has to deal with. the Usual Suspects have decided to see how much arm twisting Pelosi is willing to put up with.

hey hey ho ho
Jane Harman has got to go.


GravatarMy second favorite CD this year is the 60s cover album by Sweet and Susanna Hoffs.

Wow!!!!!
steve simels |


Is Cinammon Girl on that?


(I haven't posted in so long since I got the smackdown from ror, I have forgotten how to italicize.)


GravatarOkay, Duncan Hack has forced me to rewhore my thing about Ann Coulter.


GravatarO'Donnell on McLaughlin yesterday predicted that if she allows Alcee Hastings to take over the Intelligence Committee, they will lose the House in 2008

Don't know about you guys, but I always base all my votes, even for local judges, on who is chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
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GravatarI see my fiance's here.

To quote an obscure Tubes' song:

Pimp! Can't you control your bitches?


GravatarVery few ever pay attention to history. And so it's repeated ad nauseum.....

The hysteria and mass insanity brought about by 9/11 caused a lot of people to forget the lessons of Vietnam, I'm afraid.


GravatarGets old, it does.
Tena

If it wasn't for greed, stupidity and deceit, the Gooper party wouldn't even exist!


Gravatarsteve - if you haven't found your Ohio Express tune yet, I can hook you up. do you still have the same old crappy email account?


GravatarYeah, good thing that Dem-controlled Senate full of heroes like Kerry and Edwards and Clinton blocked that Iraq War Resolution.
Some Dude



Your concern has been noted.


GravatarI always base all my votes, even for local judges, on who is chair of the House Intelligence Committee.

I've already requested my absentee ballot for 2008 to vote straight Fascist party.


GravatarI thought about that too. More importantly, there has been no rationale oversite done iin 12 years either. The republicans went hog wild on Clinton making a mockery of this Congressional responsibility. Alternatively, the dems had nothing to investigate from the summer of 2001 to 9/11 because Bush hadn't had enough time in office to raise the millions of flags that later pointed to the most extreme corruption.

I imagine that such a regime would have begun in October 2001 with the corporate scandals giving the dem senate a reason to hold real investigation into Bush's Harkin shenanigans. But, alas, 9/11 changed everything and dems limited their corporate scandal investigation to companies rather than the republican criminal gang that paved the way for them.

Without 9/11 the corporate scandals (with Harkin and Enron) would have crippled an already shaky administration. Combine that with the recession and the general rule that the white house incumbant loses seats in the midterms and Bush almost certaintly would have lost the House in 2002. Instead, Bush leveraged the country's fear and good will into an 8 seat pickup.


GravatarJust in time for Veterans' Day:

ALS connected to military service during the Gulf War I:
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...-i- service.html

And that was without the depleted uranium dust that coats all of Iraq in this war.


GravatarYour concern has been noted.

Yes, this is the official new response.

Though I always liked "That's nice, dear," too...


GravatarHere ya go, dith.


GravatarOne thing that happened in the last six years that never happened before, at least in my lifetime, was a total abdication of the oversight role of Congress that every President before had to deal with.

I mean, LBJ came from the Senate, was a master of moving legislation about, yet faced uphill battles dealing with a Congress that was dominiated by his party.

Not to mention all the grief that Jimmy Carter had to put up with.

Then there's Clinton, who could not get things through in the two years his party was in control of Congress.

The notion of "divided government" that the talking head morons are pushing didn't used to be tied to party, but they seem to think that it always has been, when historically it hasn't been an issue of party.


GravatarIs Cinammon Girl on that?


(I haven't posted in so long since I got the smackdown from ror, I have forgotten how to italicize.)
TinyPorcelainMouse | 11.11.06 - 4:16 pm | #


Yep. Very cool version...

My favorite things on it, however, are the Velvet's "Sunday Morning" and
"Monday, Monday", both of which Hoffs sings the very beejesus out of. Just a gorgeous record overall....


GravatarMandatier. Trademark it before that whore Colbert steals it.


Gravatargreenwald has a great bit about the Harman/HIC kerfufle, as being currently played out by the right/center Usual Suspects. funny.


GravatarHi ho, Steverino!

Did you make it down to your local Tower?

I can't step into the place, myself. Too fucking painful...


GravatarOops!


This for dith and the other trolls:

http://thumbsnap.com/v/ua9kVi1P.jpg


GravatarBye for now.

Off to rake up some leaves before it rains on them.

Imagine that -- rain in the beautiful west San Fernando valley. Will wonders never cease...

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GravatarAs much as I am happy that the Dems have won, I really do not envy them their job.

Chimpy has fucked up the country, and the world. He has all but bankrupted the country, and managed to get 2 more idiots onto the supreme court. He has 150,000 bogged down in Iraq. If you stay, you are fucked, if you pull them out you are fucked.


GravatarJust a gorgeous record overall....


I love gorgeous overall records.

Two that are musts: Willie's "Spirit" and John Prine's "Fair and Square"


GravatarYour concern has been noted.

Yes, this is the official new response.

Though I always liked "That's nice, dear," too...
dave©™


I like the invitation to blow someone, too, but being female I can't use that one.


Gravatar Seems to me, Democrats have been cleaning up after Repugs for most of my adult life.

Whaaa???

Ungrateful bastards keep asking for answers and someone to be held accountable for how fucked this country's become....

Ungrateful.


GravatarNo, seriously, pinch me.

*pinch*

"mandatier." I like it.


Gravatarhey hey ho ho Jane Harman has got to go. mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari

Perhaps, but surely Pelosi can find a qualified Dem who *hasn't* been impeached in a bribery scandal to take over?


GravatarIf Pelosi and Reid and the Democrats do as advertised (raise minimum wage, provide congressional oversight to Bushboy's follies, rescind tax cuts for Big Oil, etc.), the Goopers will be reduced to a regional party in the South, totally dependent on Evangelicals as their "base."

Maybe then, we can put the entire Gooper party in a bath tub and drown it.


GravatarMy favorite things on it, however, are the Velvet's "Sunday Morning" and
"Monday, Monday", both of which Hoffs sings the very beejesus out of. Just a gorgeous record overall....


I've gotta go buy that. "Sunday Morning" is one of my favorite songs.


Gravatarsteve - if you haven't found your Ohio Express tune yet, I can hook you up. do you still have the same old crappy email account?
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:17 pm | #



You can? You could?

Tres cool...

Yes, same e-mail addy......


GravatarAs much as I am happy that the Dems have won, I really do not envy them their job.



I want to see a political cartoon with an elephant standing over a big pile of steaming shit whilst a group of donkeys are walking up with shovels cocked over their shoulders.


GravatarGOP strategist Brad Something on MSNBC a few minutes ago was asked about Karl Rove in the 2008 "Noooo" he said like Darth Vader in that last Star Wars movie.

Calming down, he predicted that Rove would be heading the Bush Library (!) ans School of Government (!?!). The Dem strategist, Flavia Something, started laughing "Karl Rove the librarian!" barely stifling a snort.

The W School of Government--I'd request my degree from there be kept classified


Gravatar"mandatier." I like it. watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:22 pm | #

I knew there was something I liked about you. From last thread:
Mandatier? I like it! JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:03 pm | #


GravatarI knew there was something I liked about you. From last thread:

Okay, that's just EERIE!!!


GravatarAFternoon, batsies.

What's going to be very interesting is where the Dems are gonna find qualified staff for all the committees they're gonna control. All those folks found new jobs a decade ago.


GravatarDid you make it down to your local Tower?

I can't step into the place, myself. Too fucking painful...
dave©™ | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:19 pm | #



Yeah. Everything I wanted was long gone...bummer, since I had really started craving the expanded version of Cale's "Paris 1919."


GravatarI like the invitation to blow someone, too, but being female I can't use that one.
Terry C, An American Again!


You could offer to do them with the strap-on


GravatarPerhaps, but surely Pelosi can find a qualified Dem who *hasn't* been impeached in a bribery scandal to take over?

zing.

Hastings has seniority. Harman has already been bumped up once. she has sucked with a capital S.

and employing a small army of folks to very publicly pressure Pelosi is just stupid.


GravatarAnother wanker of the day: Garrison Keilor.

He just opened up a bookstore across the street from me and won't sell some old picture of St. Paul because it's from his "personal collection".

Why put it in your bookstore, wanker?


GravatarOne thing that happened in the last six years that never happened before, at least in my lifetime, was a total abdication of the oversight role of Congress that every President before had to deal with.

O I agree. They didn't break it all at once; it took awhile, until they got CooCoo and the majority. Then it was Katie bar the gate (as my mom was so fond of saying.) They just picked it up on both hands and said: "here" and handed it to that fucking little shit and his fucking evil VP and his fucking evil advisor. And Grover Norquist, and Perle, and all the rest.

I hates them. I really really do.


GravatarWhat's going to be very interesting is where the Dems are gonna find qualified staff for all the committees they're gonna control.

¿Where do I send my résumé?


GravatarHitler's Thousand Year Reich
and Gingrich's Permanent Republican Majority

They both lasted 12 years.

Brendan

And both did a lot of damage.


GravatarFlory,

Well, I'm available for $100K+ a year.

A bargain.


GravatarIf Rove et al had just governed honestly and decently, they might have maintained repuke control but they just couldn't help being mean assholes about it like their slavish Freepi minions.


Gravatarbecause Bush hadn't had enough time in office to raise the millions of flags that


Just the fact of Bush's name ought to have galvanized opposition, and it did especially among those of us who saw the 2000 fiasco as an indication of worse to come. That election was the worst thing that ever happened to this country besides 9/11 in this generation. We let the less aware let this fucker in the door, and now we all pay. Many of us knew it was going to be bad, we just didn't know how bad. Now we do.


GravatarI like the invitation to blow someone, too, but being female I can't use that one.
Terry C, An American Again!

You could offer to do them with the strap-on
____league


Nah - I don't wanna imitiate Condi Rice in ANY way, shape or form.


GravatarI for one would like to see Bushboy grovel.

The Dems don't have to impeach the depraved moron. All they have to do is investigate the war crimes by Gooper officials and the corporate embezzlement of the Defense Dept.

It will piss the American people off so much, Bushboy will beg them to stop!


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

He comes from a land where the men are men, the women are women, and the photographs are display only.


Gravatarbut most of that was the post-9/11 era where they basically let Bush control everything.

PATRIOT ACT.......REPEAL!!!!!
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr.


WORD!


Gravatar¿Where do I send my résumé?

Spitzer has a website where you can enter your resume directly and apply all in one shot. Google it.


Gravatar¿Where do I send my résumé?

Spitzer has a website where you can enter your resume directly and apply all in one shot. Google it.


GravatarMarty Peretz:

And Friday, according to an article by John Hemming from Reuters, Khameini that the defeat of the Republicans on Tuesday was a victory for Iran. Let's hope that the Democrats don't make it so.

One way to prevent this from seeming to be objectively true would be to have Nancy Pelosi end her ugly and personal vendetta against Jane Harman as the chair of the House Intelligene (sic) Committee. But, let's face it, it will take more than that. Much more.


Gravatarstars cosmic vapors vicks vaporub vagina dentata you dhims are all dhoomed in your dhiminess a loosering proposition rsvp nrbq afl-cio nafta cafta obgyn madd.

I can keep doing the abbreviations forever, btw.


GravatarJust the fact of Bush's name ought to have galvanized opposition, and it did especially among those of us who saw the 2000 fiasco as an indication of worse to come. That election was the worst thing that ever happened to this country besides 9/11 in this generation. We let the less aware let this fucker in the door, and now we all pay. Many of us knew it was going to be bad, we just didn't know how bad. Now we do.

If you look at Bush's approval ratings from Feb 01 to Aug 01 you will see that the American people were not all that thrilled with him and were becoming less thrilled as the year went by.

http:// www.pollkatz.homestead.co...98_image001.gif


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

Woe...BEGONE!


GravatarBring back Habeas Corpus!


GravatarJP - Whoohooo!


GravatarFlory,

Well, I'm available for $100K+ a year.

A bargain.
watertiger


Eclairs for all!!!

Seriously -- they could prolly do worse than wander around the fever swamps. There's a lotta policy expertise on these here internets.

What they need tho, is political expertise, and that's what the Dems don't have in Washington anymore.


GravatarHe comes from a land where the men are men, the women are women, and the photographs are display only.

You forgot the "above average" bit...


GravatarWoe...BEGONE!
NT'odd (Mandatier)

Sounds like a spray for depression.

Having a bad day? Boss unreasonable? Girlfriend pissed off? Spray Woe..Begone directly to forehead!


GravatarGreat, the elections have been held, and the protection rackets in the media have ratcheted down someone. May we please now begin to have a discussion of the raping of women and boys at Abu Ghraib? Perhaps Chris Shays can be the first person empanelled to explain his bizarre remarks claiming that Abu Ghraib was a "sex ring."

I mean Jesus on a stick, if we can all get worked up about the teen pages being endangered via IMs, maybe we can shed a tear or two for the Iraqi boys our soldiers buggered as a matter of course.


GravatarHey Zap, does Table of Contents still exist in either Minneapolis or St Paul?


GravatarIf Rove et al had just governed honestly and decently, they might have maintained repuke control but they just couldn't help being mean assholes about it like their slavish Freepi minions.

They were never interested, at all, in governing.

They want to rule. It's all this obscene monarchical divine right crap that was EXPLICITLY rejected by the Founders.

These people hate the Enlightenment, and all its fruits. To include the Constitution of the United States. This is why there is a war on science on at the moment. Darwinism is another fruit of the Enlightenment.

Hell, they even hate Adam Smith. Or would, if they ever actually read The Wealth of Nations.


GravatarNah - I don't wanna imitiate Condi Rice in ANY way, shape or form.
Terry C, An American Again!


Good point.


GravatarNah - I don't wanna imitiate Condi Rice in ANY way, shape or form.
Terry C, An American Again! | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:29 pm | #

Thanks for the image of Condi with a strap-on.

Now I won't be able to have sex ever again. Even with myself.


GravatarI've gotta go buy that. "Sunday Morning" is one of my favorite songs.
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr


Yeah.

But there's hardly anything on that first VU album I don't absolutely love.


GravatarWhat they need tho, is political expertise, and that's what the Dems don't have in Washington anymore.

What they're fucking lacking is common sense. Street smarts.

They're so busy trying to outfox each other for title of "king of the mountain" that they've completely lost sight of what the mountain is.


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

He comes from a land where the men are men, the women are women, and the photographs are display only.
underwhelm, gloaty | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:29 pm | #

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and the children are all above average.


GravatarHaving a bad day? Boss unreasonable? Girlfriend pissed off? Spray Woe..Begone directly to forehead!

Not sanctioned by the Duct Tape Advisory Board.

Woe...BEGONE!
NT'odd (Mandatier)


BOOOO!!!!


GravatarYou can? You could? Tres cool... Yes, same e-mail addy...... steve simels

Done and done.


GravatarOne way to prevent this from seeming to be objectively true would be to have Nancy Pelosi end her ugly and personal vendetta against Jane Harman as the chair of the House Intelligene (sic) Committee.



Why do these assholes think Nancy Pelosi either needs or wants their advice?


GravatarThe Dems don't have to impeach the depraved moron. All they have to do is investigate the war crimes by Gooper officials and the corporate embezzlement of the Defense Dept.

Very likely.

And why do I keep reading that one reason Rummy stepped down is he doesn't want to deal with two years of Congressional investigations. Hunh? He thinks he can't get subpoenaed just because he's off the payroll?


(and wtf is dith on about today?)


GravatarI mean Jesus on a stick, if we can all get worked up about the teen pages being endangered via IMs, maybe we can shed a tear or two for the Iraqi boys our soldiers buggered as a matter of course.
Mr Blifil |

Germany is working on it:
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...nst-top- us.html


GravatarY'know, this Maxwell House commercial isn't that good.

Instead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".


GravatarI mean Jesus on a stick, if we can all get worked up about the teen pages being endangered via IMs, maybe we can shed a tear or two for the Iraqi boys our soldiers buggered as a matter of course.

As Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

All the screaming by the whiny republicans isn't going to change that fact or save their asses.


GravatarHell, they even hate Adam Smith. Or would, if they ever actually read The Wealth of Nations.

Yeah, I always quote a section of On Rent when ExxonMobil announces their quarterly profits. It damns their notion of "free market"...


GravatarI'm going to call BellSouth to cancel my DSL subscription. I have dial-up here but it's alright. And with high-speed at work, anything I might want to watch I can there...


GravatarHe thinks he can't get subpoenaed just because he's off the payroll?

Can't force him to appear if he is not in the country.


GravatarInstead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".
watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:36 pm | #


You go, girl.


GravatarI see the Sweet/Hoffs Under the Covers '60s retro album is available for $5.19 at Amazon. Better yet I see it has violin and string arrangements by actual loony '60s holdover Van Dyke Parks.

Parks has never had to reach far to be eccentric. On his Tokyo Rose album, he has a song where Thomas Edison and Henry Ford debate '80s US trade policy looking down from heaven. He does both voices.


GravatarInstead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".
watertiger

Dear god, now they are advocating torture with our daily cup of coffee?


GravatarCan't force him to appear if he is not in the country.

I hear Paraquay is nice this time of year.


GravatarDid I also mention it's cheap as hellhere ($9) and free at work?


Gravatardoes Table of Contents still exist in either Minneapolis or St Paul?

Dunnfur. Just closed this spring.

I'm jazzed that Garrison opened this bookstore; cause it's one of about four or five indy's left in the TC's.

And it's a great store, don't get me wrong. Lotsa local stuff.


GravatarI keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".

[experiences shrinkage]


GravatarParaguay


GravatarIf Rove et al had just governed honestly and decently, they might have maintained repuke control but they just couldn't help being mean assholes about it like their slavish Freepi minions.
*****************************

republicans don't really deal in policy at all. they just have schemes.


GravatarHelen Caldicott is on c-span2 BookTV now, from September at Georgetown.

I'd vote for her on any ticket.
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GravatarThe Dems don't have to impeach the depraved moron. All they have to do is investigate the war crimes by Gooper officials and the corporate embezzlement of the Defense Dept.

Word. Put the Chimpster in a position where he's having to apologize for the piracy of the defense contractors who have been bleeding us to death in Iraq, and he'll impeach himself.

Any real leader would be incensed and calling for treason charges against senior management and asset forfeiture of American corporations guilty of half as much gouging as has been substantiated against Halliburton and others in Iraq. The Chimpster and the wingnuts, on the other hand, can't stop defending them. It's unreal.


GravatarYou go, girl.

I get down with my bad self.


Gravatar(and wtf is dith on about today?)
flory,


Darlin, what the fuck is he on about at anytime? He's a tedious little thread louse.


Gravatar
[experiences shrinkage]


Well, I certainly don't want a cup of that coffee.


GravatarOkay, that's just EERIE!!! watertiger

♪Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavelength
This is a post about your wavelength and my wavelength, baby...


Gravatar(and wtf is dith on about today?)
flory, keeper of the list | 11.11.06 - 4:35 pm | #


I don't think that's really dith, if you know what I mean.


GravatarCan't force him to appear if he is not in the country.

I'm guessing he isn't headed for Europe.


GravatarThey're so busy trying to outfox each other for title of "king of the mountain" that they've completely lost sight of what the mountain is.
watertiger


Eh. That goes with the territory. They're politicians, and that's what politicians do.

Which is why you need good, experienced, politically savvy staff to get the actual work done while the politicians are posturing and preening.

One reason Clinton's early years were such a disaster is because there weren't any experienced executive staff around the White House. His staff didn't know how to play the game and they got pwned.

We can't afford for that to happen on the Hill.


GravatarAs Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

As we used to say in the field artillery, Waxman is dealing with a target rich environment.


GravatarDunnfur. Just closed this spring.

Damn. Loved that place.


GravatarWar profiteering is a crime. Everybody must be on the same page as Billmon. That's he's suggestion...


GravatarThey are sending Georgie on an excellent adventure.
"In an awkward bit of timing, Bush will be globe-trotting when Congress returns to town next week to open its lame-duck session, taking up business the White House deems vital."

Isn't that so ... coincidental? Georgie will find out more about how big the world is!


GravatarBut there's hardly anything on that first VU album I don't absolutely love.

About ten years ago, I bought the "Peel Slowly and See" box set. It's still one of my prized posessions; in spite of the Doug Yule years...


GravatarI'm going to call BellSouth to cancel my DSL subscription. I have dial-up here but it's alright. And with high-speed at work, anything I might want to watch I can there...
Ô¿Ô


Right now I am using free WiFi thoughtfully provided by one of my neighbors. Don't think that I want to thank them though (even if I knew who it was.)

How far does a WiFi signal reach? The signal strength is 'very low' but it works just fine.


GravatarWell, I certainly don't want a cup of that coffee.

Sproing?


GravatarImpeachment is the only appropriate response to Cheney and Bush.


Gravatar"In an awkward bit of timing,

Heh. Awkward.


GravatarCan't force him to appear if he is not in the country.
____league


He better hope is not in in a country that's signatory to the ICC. His ass is on trial in Germany for war crimes...


Gravatarmr. steve - somebody needs to clean up their email so as not to exceed their quota or i have an old addie.


GravatarI keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".

Shelled or unshelled?


GravatarI keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".

Shelled or unshelled?


GravatarDamn. Loved that place.

You will be happy to know that the Borders in Calhoun Square just closed shop.

I was...because they were actively fighting a union organizing there.

But next time you come to town, I'll give you a tour of GK's new spot.


GravatarWhy put it in your bookstore, wanker?

I don't know anything about the circumstances, but offhand, the fixtures and decorations in a store are rarely for sale.

From personal experience, even "framed" artwork displaying posters you are selling aren't necessarily available for purchase.

Just sayin'...


GravatarInstead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".



Time to rub my pork butt. Sear all sides. Cook over low heat. Monitor my new remote thermometer until internal temp is 200 degrees. Slow roast until the Hogs bring the PAIN at 1900 on the duece. Woo Pig Sooie!


Gravatardave©™: You got a helmet for that thing?

Oh yeah -- came with it! It's white, and dorky-lookin' as a slide rule and a pocket protector, but hells yeah, I'll wear it until I can afford to replace it with something cooler-lookin'.
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GravatarCould we please have our habeas corpus back?


GravatarOn his Tokyo Rose album, he has a song where Thomas Edison and Henry Ford debate '80s US trade policy looking down from heaven. He does both voices.
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Well, that just totally cracked me up.


GravatarI've gotten roped into volunteering to edit all this copy for a website and I don't want to do it. I already did all this copy for a book; I don't want to re-edit it for the website.

But like a fool, I said yes when they asked, and now my deadline looms. . .

Yes, I'm a whiny leftist. Whine whine whine.


GravatarWar profiteering is a crime.

Which is the basis of the Bush Crime Family. Bushes have been war profiteers going back at least to WWI, perhaps earlier (Rockefeller got his start during the Civil War).


GravatarWhich is why you need good, experienced, politically savvy staff to get the actual work done while the politicians are posturing and preening.

One reason Clinton's early years were such a disaster is because there weren't any experienced executive staff around the White House. His staff didn't know how to play the game and they got pwned.


How'd you get so smart?



GravatarHow far does a WiFi signal reach? The signal strength is 'very low' but it works just fine.
____,league


My computer detected a wireless signal but it was too weak for me to use. Be careful not to use a printer or it might print out on theirs.


Gravatarthere's hardly anything on that first VU album I don't absolutely love.


I got the third Velvets album - the one with "Murder Mystery" on it - out of a bargain bin at Woolworth's for 79¢ when I was in high school.

Yes, I was an oddball...


GravatarAs Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

I'd like Waxman to find out exactly why the numerous clear warnings on 9/11 were so consistently ignored.

Exactly why.


GravatarOh yeah -- came with it!

Just checking... since your mom's not here...


Gravatarmr. steve - somebody needs to clean up their email so as not to exceed their quota or i have an old addie.
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 4:42 pm | #


Shoot. I don't what the fuck is wrong with that...

Thanks for trying, though.


Gravatar"Fit But You Know It" by Streets just came on...

Best. Cockney. Rapper. Ever.


GravatarI see Bolton has vetoed a resolution at the UN condemning Israel for the killing of 18 civilians.

He said it was politically motivated and unbalanced.

Projection again.


GravatarBush will be globe-trotting


With buckets of confetti to the face at each stop.


GravatarAs Waxman said, there is so much to investigate, the Dems are going to have to pick and choose.

Who dresses Pickles?


Gravatarevening, bats. lovely pics of your newly democratic capitol hill. it was just lovely outside and i'm so glad i took a walk.


GravatarBushes have been war profiteers going back at least to WWI

Exactly why I don't think the House needs to investigate very deeply before things get very uncomfortable for the Chimpster. Presumably the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy where the Carlyle Group, Halliburton, etc., are concerned will not hold much sway with the Democratic majority.

When I see Bunnatine Greenhouse explaining how Halliburton robbed us blind and Rumsfeld ordered the Pentagon to pay them anyway--and when someone from the Pentagon is put under oath to explain it--then I'll know that the Democrats are serious about protecting the troops. No more $50 six-packs and moldy food.


Gravatar Testing


GravatarWhat they need tho, is political expertise, and that's what the Dems don't have in Washington anymore.

Funny you should mention that... this site was being pimped at Kos today.


GravatarHave to look close, had one of the younger barred owls visit the woodpecker feeder. It wasn't sure how to grab a bite. It was raining so the video isn't very sharp. I's just above the handle of the thing I used to hold the suet.



http://www.dropshots.com/day.php...11& ctime=110146


GravatarMy computer detected a wireless signal but it was too weak for me to use. Be careful not to use a printer or it might print out on theirs.
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Thanks. I had not thought about that. Will shut off wifi before printing. Have not used a printer with this computer because the computer has no parallel port and the printer has no USB. Need to buy one of those converters.


GravatarHow'd you get so smart?


Tena


*blush*

There were all kinds of stories back in the day about how much trouble the Clinton Administration was having staffing the WH and the agencies because it had been so long since there'd been a Dem president there just weren't any people left in Washington.


GravatarIt's not that freaky when you realize how fucked up everything is.


GravatarCould we please have our habeas corpus back?

Don't forget to put posse comitatus back in there, as well.


GravatarI see Bolton has vetoed a resolution at the UN condemning Israel for the killing of 18 civilians.

He said it was politically motivated and unbalanced.


Bolton doesn't consider residents of the occupied territory "civilians," just terrorists that haven't been killed yet.


GravatarShoot. I don't what the fuck is wrong with that...

Just sign up for a Yahoo account... you don't have to ever use it again.


GravatarBest. Cockney. Rapper. Ever.
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr.


Have you heard Lady Sovereign
she has recieved the Jigga Seal of Approval


GravatarBe careful not to use a printer or it might print out on theirs.
Ô¿Ô


That raises all sorts of possibilities...


GravatarChiDy -- Greets! How ya doin' there in D.C.?

So good to see you!
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GravatarFrom personal experience, even "framed" artwork displaying posters you are selling aren't necessarily available for purchase.

Years ago I was in a shop that sold a variety of things. On the wall behind the cash register was a large, framed original John Lennon nude self portrait with Yoko. I really thought it would be for sale, considering the kind of shop it was because it had things like that for sale. So I asked.

You're right, dave®™ - store fixtures aren't for sale as a rule. Gol dang it.


GravatarShoot. I don't what the fuck is wrong with that... Thanks for trying, though. steve simels

Why don't you set up a nice free Yahoo account with 1GB of free space?


GravatarJeffCo owes me a Coke!


Gravatarvegetables snails darting through droplets of the dizzying dromedary of your dhim doomness, loosers to a d. And chud scud scuba fubar aipac anwar rko mgmua msnbc snl.

I just fucking love abbreviations, pdq.


GravatarOk, so I've washed all the exterior windows and doors, and the awning as best I can (Oxyclean will remove most of the moss without scrubbing - who knew? - and that's going to have to be good enough, because I can't safely get at it to scrub), all I lack is the back porch walls, doors, windows, and floor. And I've got my first case of "itchy fingers" of the cold season. Right now they're all red and puffy and itching, from warming back up. So the back may have to wait till tomorrow.

And I still want everyone to remind the Dems that we want investigations and where appropriate, prosecutions.


Gravatarchidy -- I'd say you're enjoying your new environs?

And your pics make me remember why I liked the damn town so much....


GravatarUh...that last steve simels post about abbreviations was me.

IRTE.


Gravatar...store fixtures aren't for sale as a rule.

Only at the end...


GravatarHave you heard Lady Sovereign
she has recieved the Jigga Seal of Approval


Yeah. She was just in town last weekend. She was also on Letterman a bit back.

The Strib called her a cross between Streets and MIA. Don't see it.

But she's okay by Zap standards...


Gravatarchicago dyke
the keeper of the whip!


GravatarAnd I still want everyone to remind the Dems that we want investigations and where appropriate, prosecutions.

The investigations should be held under the auspices of a Truth But To Hell With Reconciliation Commission.


GravatarFunny you should mention that... this site was being pimped at Kos today.
dave©™


That's for campaign staff. Entirely different breed.

It's the Repukkklicans that let campaigns run the policy...not us.


GravatarJeffCo owes me a Coke! dave©™

You can collect at EschaCon IIe: the Piggyback!


GravatarEnjoying the first of many beer this find Saturday -- a pint of Bridgport IPA, from Oregon, home of ErinPDX and other famous Eschatonians. Yummy. Cheap, too... on tap here at Cafe Coco, the jiggiest li'l cafe in midtown Gnashvegas.

This will be my only beer, here, though -- I'm catching the 18:00 bus back to west Gnashvegas, and scootering to Kroger next door to where the scooter is parked, to get six SNPA, and head home to Curly for the eve.
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GravatarBut she's okay by Zap standards...
Zap Rowsdower, Grrr


I like her
But I like MIA and the Streets Better


GravatarExactly why I don't think the House needs to investigate very deeply before things get very uncomfortable for the Chimpster. Presumably the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy where the Carlyle Group, Halliburton, etc., are concerned will not hold much sway with the Democratic majority'

I couldn't agree more.

There's a whole goddamn lot of information that's missing - parts of reports suppressed and never released, not to mention photographs that two federal courts have ordered the administration to release. There's just easy shit - bird nests on the ground - to keep the Democrats busy for most of the first session. And that's before they even have to start the colonoscopies on CooCoo, Cheney and Rice.


GravatarI see it has violin and string arrangements by actual loony '60s holdover Van Dyke Parks.

Man, I love Van Dyke Parks! Aside from his work with Brian Wilson, I'm probably the only guy in the universe that loved "Song Cycle."

"Discover America" is also great, but a little more "mainstream"... his version of "Sailing Shoes" is just great!


GravatarAnd where appropriate persecutions.


GravatarAny of you ya-hoos ever play a card game (w/its own, proprietary deck, btw), called M'hing?
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Gravatarevening, bats. lovely pics of your newly democratic capitol hill.

When we were there at the end of September, I could barely stand to look at the place.


GravatarYou cannot imagine how many leaves I raked today. They were falling faster than I could rake them. It already looks as if I hadn't raked at all.


Gravatarour lowly liquor lobby longs to back a road to old time songs. biblebelts worn from here and after all were born in the know. so rally round awhile jim crow for I thought I'd like to show they can recall the alamo way down in old mexico.

i left academia amid sixty-two. was it sixty-one scholar was cooled from the u? doubtless more on sore wing than prayer i up and just withdrew to the wander round there.


GravatarThat's for campaign staff.

Oh, too bad...


GravatarJupiter, Venus, Mars and Mercury are all crowded around the sun this weekend. The great conjunction is invisible to the human eye (too much sunlight), but SOHO can see it. The spacecraft's coronagraph is able to block the glare and reveal the planets. Take a look: live image.


GravatarI must go rub my pork and listen to the Razorback pre-game.

To those of you that own a copy of this, listen. For the rest, I'll leave you with the opening verse of Trout Fishing in America's "Just a Little While"


We live just a little while
Then somebody takes our place
But I'm here right now
and I don't want to leave without leavin a trace
We live a little while
then everything must change
It might get better, it might get worse
It never stays the same

But right now
I'm having a good time
Right now
I feel fine
Well, you can tell by the look in this boy's eyes
that I'm happy to be here
and that ain't no lie

Alright

Alright

Alright


Gravatari love it here. i got whistled at by a woman today, it was great. the weather is great, my 'hood is great, my three new girlfriends are great...so far, everything is great except the lack of a 420 connection. i'm working on that.


GravatarIt's the Repukkklicans that let campaigns run the policy...not us.
flory, keeper of the list


Funny how they made that claim about Clinton nonfuckingstop.

I wonder if I'll ever stop hating these people?


GravatarHey gang.

Just got in from raking the yard. Man, I hate to bag leaves. Raking ain't so bad, but I sure hate to bag 'em.


GravatarI must go rub my pork, listen to the Razorback pregame and listen to Trout Fishing in America's "Just a Little While". Fits the mood wonderfully.


GravatarThere's just easy shit - bird nests on the ground - to keep the Democrats busy for most of the first session. And that's before they even have to start the colonoscopies on CooCoo, Cheney and Rice.

It's amazing how much of this administration the Dems could/should expose.

And it would do every citizen of this world justice to do so.


Gravatarparked, to get six SNPA, and head home to Curly for the eve.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:54 pm


bridgeport ipa is very good...
i'm drinkin' a redhook (woodinville, wa) ipa as i type this...also quite good...
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GravatarHave you heard Lady Sovereign
she has recieved the Jigga Seal of Approval



Saw her on Letterman and thought she was about as exciting as watching paint dry.

And speaking of paint drying, here are the top three Worst Albums of the Year.

1. That lute/madrigal Sting nonsense.
Earth to Der Stingel: you're not Julian Bream.

2. That Audra McDonald crap where she tries to invest a Sesame Street song with deep spiritual significance (and its not even the worst thing on the album).

3. That Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence. Proof positive that all those beautiful folk and r8b covers he did back when he was good were the work of an idiot savant.

Apparently, I'm cranky today.


GravatarChimpy is going to play the bi-partisan card for all it’s worth for the next 2 years.

Every time the Dems try and be tough, the Right will scream “oooh you are not being nice to dear leader, why are you so mean”

They will hope the Dems will back off for 2 years, and then maybe they can steal 2008.

The Dems need to go full steam ahead, and they need to keep reminding people that the Repigs did not do oversight, which is why they have to be tough. Make McCain defend his crap record every day.


GravatarChimpy is going to play the bi-partisan card for all it’s worth for the next 2 years.

Every time the Dems try and be tough, the Right will scream “oooh you are not being nice to dear leader, why are you so mean”

They will hope the Dems will back off for 2 years, and then maybe they can steal 2008.

The Dems need to go full steam ahead, and they need to keep reminding people that the Repigs did not do oversight, which is why they have to be tough. Make McCain defend his crap record every day.


GravatarSo astrologers, what does it mean that all those planets are in conjunction with the sun?


GravatarChiDy: so far, everything is great except the lack of a 420 connection. i'm working on that.

I dabbled yesterday for the first time in over a year, with a new friend -- a handyman who's looking to find more work, who's agreed to give me 20% of any jobs I book for him via a website I'm doing for just such nefarious purposes. Working stiffs are sorely underserved by the web, methinks, and I'm gonna retire by keeping these folx in work, if FSM will allow it. Now that I'm not looking for minimum-wage pee-in-a-cup jobs, I figured, "what the hell?"
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Gravatardid michigan win today? i can't believe i'm asking, but my best fag friend went to rutgers, and told me he's actually following them as they're doing so well. i need bragging rights.


GravatarY'all should just mulch the leaves. Better for the soil...


Gravatarbillyb - I always rake them into the middle of a sheet, then fold up the corners, drag it around back, and dump it in either the "mulch pile" (I mow the leaves then add to the compost pile) or the alley. Much easier than bagging. If you must bag, mowing them up with a mulching mower with a bagger makes it a lot easier - also they take up a lot fewer lawn bags when they've been mulched.


GravatarWoody Guthrie's Guitar: i'm drinkin' a redhook (woodinville, wa) ipa as i type this...also quite good...

I used to love Redhook ESB, but it has gone quite far down in quality in the last couple of years, IMO. On tap, it seems better... but it used to be consistently excellent. Now, merely "good."
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GravatarI think Bush will resign before his term is over. I don't think he could the scrutiny.


Gravatar I'm probably the only guy in the universe that loved "Song Cycle."


Uh...not the only guy.


GravatarThat Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence. Proof positive that all those beautiful folk and r8b covers he did back when he was good were the work of an idiot savant.

No fucking shit. Who the fuck thought him covering "Fooled Around and Fell In Love" was a good idea?

Pretty much confirms the theory that Ron Wood and Ronnie Lane were the geniuses in Faces... Rod was just a tool (and a rather large one at that, if you get my drift)...


GravatarNow that I'm not looking for minimum-wage pee-in-a-cup jobs, I figured, "what the hell?".
Jeffraham Prestonian 5:01 pm


'salmost enuffta makeafella a on-ter-penure, doncha think?


Gravatar"keep the Democrats busy for most of the first session..."

This is what is most bothersome; the glacial pace of progress in our nation. It's been this way so long. We need to say "look, the malfeasance here is so overwhelming and constitutes such a grave danger to the republic we are intituting articles immediately". What will it take for us to get SERIOUS with these fuckers? They have ALREADY ruined our country. WHY are we waiting? So they can shred more evidence and perpetrate even more shit?


Gravatarmichigan just started playing
Indiana


Wolverines 21
HOOOSIERS 3


Gravatarright on, JP. another thing to add to a democratic agenda: a rational conversation on the failures of the war on drugs. starting with the recognition that pot is better than booze when it comes to your health, as well as having a myriad of other useful applications.


GravatarUh...not the only guy.

Why are the good ones always taken???


Gravatari'm drinkin' a redhook (woodinville, wa) ipa as i type this...also quite good...

Saint Paul has the best IPA/EPA I've ever had...Summit.

If any of you get yer hands on it, you'll lub it!! That's a Zap endorsement.


GravatarApparently, I'm cranky today.
steve simels


It's a Libra trait, baby. Think Groucho Marx.

That and argue argue argue.

Ain't it fun?


GravatarSo astrologers, what does it mean that all those planets are in conjunction with the sun?

That the Forces of Good win the day.


GravatarApparently, I'm cranky today.
steve simels


Apparently you are. I'll give you #'s 2 and 3, but I liked some of the Sting pieces.


GravatarIncog,

I get waaaaaaay too many leaves to use for mulch. If i didn't rake, they'd cover every inch of my yard up to my hips. Literally. But the county picks them up from the curb and turns them into mulch that anyone in the county can get for free, so it's all good. And, I tell myself that it's as good as a trip to the gym.


GravatarThat Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence.

Perhaps even worse was watching him perform said covers on the Tonight show. Karaoke night.


GravatarThat Rod Stewart classic rock covers excresence.

Perhaps even worse was watching him perform said covers on the Tonight show. Karaoke night.


GravatarMichcigan is quarterbacked by figures skater sonya henne


GravatarY'all should just mulch the leaves. Better for the soil...

I just let them stay there, rotting.


GravatarWorking stiffs are sorely underserved by the web, methinks, and I'm gonna retire by keeping these folx in work...

That's an excellent fucking idea, buddy boy. Go for it!


GravatarChi-dy...

mich's up over ind 21-3 at the end of the ist half


Gravatarmy alma mater
is presently tied with the Univeristy of Manitoba


Gravatarright on, JP. another thing to add to a democratic agenda: a rational conversation on the failures of the war on drugs. starting with the recognition that pot is better than booze when it comes to your health, as well as having a myriad of other useful applications.
chicago dyke



OH YES!!!! This is so overdue.

However, the failure of the Nevada and Colorado ballot initiatives might make the Democrats think the public isn't really behind this idea.

That doesn't mean we can't make them pay attention. I thought what we were doing here is making democracy. I imagine that my letters to Congress are going to be going out in even greater numbers than before.


Gravatarthanks, ole. simels, if you're still cranky, i think there's a troll here who can blow you.


GravatarWoody Guthrie's Guitar: 'salmost enuffta makeafella a on-ter-penure, doncha think?

If I can pocket ~$800 cash every month, minimum for the next few months, I'll set aside 20% or so for taxes, and I will never cry about a single thang, money-wise, for some time to come. I'd rather be happy than "firmly" (yeah... riiight) middle class, again. I like the idea of working at my own pace, and more importantly, working ONLY with people I like, 'cause I have a choice.
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GravatarHere's a pretty good checklist for the Democrats.


GravatarI've got my friends at work to save coffee grounds from each pot of coffee made there. That's about 75 pots a week. I leave a bucket under the cabinet where the coffee machine is. Coffee grounds are pure gold in organic farming...


Gravatarohio state is also thumping northwestern

so nest week will be teh huge


Gravatar simels, if you're still cranky, i think there's a troll here who can blow you.
chicago dyke | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 5:08 pm | #


From now on, all I want are one-eyed trolls to give me a socket job.



Man, that disgusted even me.


GravatarSpeaking of that Sting thing, one of the DJs on the local FM rocker keeps saying while she basically has nothing against the album itself, she was pretty pissed at a comment Sting made about him doing it because rock music was "boring." She draws the word out using a fake British accent.

I've never been a big fan of Sting's - too fucking pretentious by half. He was good in "Quadrophenia," though...


GravatarI just let them stay there, rotting.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


Good for the Grub Worms.

Dig em up, freeze em and drive the crappie wild next May.


GravatarI've got my friends at work to save coffee grounds from each pot of coffee made there.

Around here, Starbucks offers the grounds gratis to composters.

If you don't have a Starbucks near you - good for you!


Gravatarchicago dyke: right on, JP. another thing to add to a democratic agenda: a rational conversation on the failures of the war on drugs. starting with the recognition that pot is better than booze when it comes to your health, as well as having a myriad of other useful applications.

Check Gatewood Galbraith, sometime when you're bored. He's what made me become a registered Libertarian back in the '80s.
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GravatarI just let them stay there, rotting.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


Even better. Lawns begin looking anemic from bagging after awhile.


Gravatartena, i fear it'll take a republican to bring forth the conversation we need. gary whathisname from AZ was a good start, i don't know what happened to him. but the approach shouldn't be "let your kids get high, who cares?" it should be "you're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."


Gravatarmy alma mater
is presently tied with the Univeristy of Manitoba
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 5:07 pm


it might surprise you to note that, even as we speak, i am wearing the University of Manitoba cap i traded with a colleague (for one from LSU) there, many mooons ago...
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GravatarApparently, I'm cranky today. steve simels

Happiness is only a quota-cleansing away.


Gravatarohio state is also thumping northwestern

so nest week will be teh huge


The cynical, oft-burned Bucks fan in me fears they'll blow it again against the Blue Wolfies.


GravatarCoffee grounds are pure gold in organic farming...
Ô¿Ô


They make the lettuce mighty perky.


Gravatarif you don't have a Starbucks near you - good for you!
dave™©,


They just built one close by. I'll check. Thanks for the tip. All those coffee grinds at work were just going straight into the landfill...


Gravatardave--I'm also a fan of Van Dyke Parks. I bet he's the only rock'n'roll guy ever to write a song praising J Edgar Hoover (the chorus goes Rat-a-tat-tat Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat).

And I love his production for Bonnie Raitt's Wah She Go Do? from Takin' My Time. Have you ever tried to position a 45 RPM single on a 33 RPM spike without an adaptor? You can never center it quite right and it keeps speeding up and slowing down. That's what this song's loopy rhythm sounds like on purpose.


GravatarThe Democrats aren't used to power. Can we trust them?

Solving the Great Depression, winning WWII, curing polio, passing the GI Bill and the interstate highway system, stepping foot on the Moon, providing electricity and phone service to rural US regions, protecting retirees from paupership, college degrees and home ownership to those who never imagined it possible, taking the festering civil rights issue in this country head on.

These were all accomplished by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I'm not convinced Democrats can handle federal power in an adult manner.


GravatarI do the same thing, Hectate. I mulch a few, but most of my yard is a veggie garden, and I understand too many leaves will overwhelm it. But even though I'm putting the leaves out on the curb ( along with all my green waste from the kitchen), I buy the processed compost back from the city, and the garden explodes with produce. It's a nice little circle of life.


GravatarQuadrophenia

Projected it at the 8th St numerous times in an earlier life. I must know every frame of that sucker.


Gravatarit might surprise you to note that, even as we speak, i am wearing the University of Manitoba cap i traded with a colleague (for one from LSU) there, many mooons ago...
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Woody Guthrie's Guitar


It might interest you
that the U of Manitoba Bisons were the number 1 football team in Canada this year (or at least in Canada WesT)
they put a hurt on my Huskies at home earlier this year


GravatarThey make the lettuce mighty perky.
R. McGeddon | 11.11.06 - 5:13 pm


get enough caffein in 'em, they'll chase the damn rabbits right outtada fuuukin yard...


GravatarGo on - try to stay cranky. I dare you! (Bonus: Virginia Madsen!)


Gravatardrive the crappie wild next May.

next thing ya know, you got a whole mess o' little crappies.


GravatarBonus: Virginia Madsen!

Is it something her bro would watch?


GravatarGo on - try to stay cranky. I dare you! (Bonus: Virginia Madsen!)
JeffCO | 11.11.06 - 5:14 pm | #



Alas, I'm on dial-up, and have never been able to access YouTube.

What would it be if I could?


Gravatarit should be "you're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."
chicago dyke


That's the rational argument, but I'm not sure its ever gonna win against the "Eek, drugs! Bad! The Children!" emotional argument on the other side.
Don't know what will.

Plus, you've got probably the second most powerful industry in the country -- the prison industry -- lined up against you. They've got one very powerful vested interest in keeping those prisons full.


Gravatar "you're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."

Yeah, and they could make a really good strong law enforcement argument with it. Tell people that if they remove the drug trade from the streets, most violent crime will drop dramatically. And there will be more resources to fight the violence that isn't a result of the drug trade.

There's a lot of crime that police cannot and will not pay any attention to besides to show up and fill out the form for your insurance company. A lot of that is because they just don't have the resources.


It's a win win. There is no downside.


GravatarI think it'd make more sense to handle marijuana like we handle beer -- license producers, distributors, & sellers, tax same, put an age limit on it, and let people enjoy it if they like it.

And wouldn't restaurants just *love* to serve MJ appetizers? Think what it would do for dinner & dessert revenues! (munch, munch, munch)


GravatarLet's abolish the "Feed Curly" button this month.

Whoo-HOOOOO!
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Gravatarbillyb - I always rake them into the middle of a sheet, then fold up the corners, drag it around back, and dump it in either the "mulch pile" (I mow the leaves then add to the compost pile) or the alley.

Ironically the last 2 houses I've lived in are corner lots with houses in the back and on the side, so I don't have any way to get rid of the leaves other than bagging or taking them to the dump, which is closed on Saturday.

Thanks for the tip, tho.

Off to a U of DE hockey game. Later.


Gravatarscrolling down: i'm worried about atrios. his ponies are getting more and more butch with ever poll. or is that holden's thing?


Gravatarthey put a hurt on my Huskies at home earlier this year
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot 5:14 pm



hell, olex, i din't even know they were called the bison...

in case anybody but me cares: gawja whupped up on auburn...anything bad happens to auburn, i'm a happy guy...
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Gravatarflory - the EEK, the Children! argument can be met easily.

Children can obtain drugs far more easily than they can alcohol. The underground economy doesn't care how old you are.


GravatarTena, chasing burglars is dangerous-- they might shoot you. Far safer to go after pot smokers.


GravatarI bet he's the only rock'n'roll guy ever to write a song praising J Edgar Hoover (the chorus goes Rat-a-tat-tat Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat).

Rat-a-tat-tat
Rat-a-tat-tat
G-Man, G-Man Hooooo-Verrrr!

According to Van Dyke's website, that album has been reissued by RykoDisc... gotta look for it!


Gravataryou're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer. and law enforcement more corrupt. and prisons larger and more filled with nonviolent offenders. it's time for a change."

Yes. And I think America's ready for it; I really do. I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.


GravatarHave you ever tried to position a 45 RPM single on a 33 RPM spike without an adaptor?

Why, yes. Yes, I have.

It's a lost art...


GravatarY'all should just mulch the leaves. Better for the soil...

Too many, Incog. I do mulch as much as I can with the mower and also dump as many as possible in the beds, but I still end up with 20 or so 55 gal drum sized bags.


Gravatargawja whupped up on auburn...anything bad happens to auburn, i'm a happy guy...
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Woody Guthrie's Guita


I'm just trying to pass on a little knowledge
now if someone ever asks you waht the u of M teams are called you will know


GravatarChildren can obtain drugs far more easily than they can alcohol. The underground economy doesn't care how old you are.
Tena


Might work, if we could manage to get it into general circulation.

But its the vested interests of the prison industry that will make it a long, tough slog of a battle.


GravatarAnd wouldn't restaurants just *love* to serve MJ appetizers? Think what it would do for dinner & dessert revenues! (munch, munch, munch)
strawhat


now that's a thought. get the restaurant and food industries behind a MJ reform movement. hmmmm.


GravatarWhat would it be if I could? steve simels

You may have many reactions to Philip Oakley, but cranky would not be one of them. How can it fucking be that Electric Dreams is unavailable on DVD?!?


Gravatarall our leaves belong to the early snow

lousy weather suiting stereotypes


GravatarYou guys ever get the creepy feeling that whenever the Republicans take power, that a huge three-card Monte game is about to take place?


GravatarThere is no downside.

The downside is to those who now make the beega of the fact that it's illegal.


GravatarI think it'd make more sense to handle marijuana like we handle beer -- license producers, distributors, & sellers, tax same, put an age limit on it, and let people enjoy it if they like it.

I prefer the Starbucks business model.


GravatarTena, chasing burglars is dangerous-- they might shoot you. Far safer to go after pot smokers.
Moe Szyslak


Shit, they've been known to totally ignore car jackers here. My friend was car jacked 7 or 8 years ago and the police were so bored with the whole thing I couldn't believe it. She was sitting there hysterical, blood pouring down her face from her head, and they were just standing around. Wouldn't even call in the description of the car and the jacker.


GravatarIt's the knowledge that it has when they leave that's the real bummer


GravatarYes. And I think America's ready for it; I really do. I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Anyone except the Repukkkes and their cringing servants in the media.

Imagine the shitstorm Limpballs, Drudge and company would whip up if Dems tried to make the argument.

I agree with whoever said it upthread -- it'll take a Republican to get the debate going. A Democrat would just be making themselves into a target.


GravatarIt's a lost art... dave™©

You try telling the kids today... (hang on)


"You hoodlums get offa my lawn! I'm keeping that frisbee!"

Sorry, what was I saying?


GravatarI think it'd make more sense to handle marijuana like we handle beer -- license producers, distributors, & sellers, tax same, put an age limit on it, and let people enjoy it if they like it.

They'd figure out some sort of way from preventing us from growing our own. AMD will make billions from GM pot, but you and me will get arrested from growing it in our back yards.


GravatarIf you don't have a garden, you can still save your organics you have left over like potato peelings, tea bags and coffee grinds. Just keep a small bucket under your sink to dump organics in, and every few days, dump it in a large pot on your pation, and every week or so, keep a large bag of top soil and spread a layer on top. Let the rain and worms do the rest. Makes the best soil for growing anything including vegetables. I have a plastic pot that's the largest they sell at Home Depot for that. I was going to go with a specialized setup for that but this is much cheaper and just as effective.


Gravatarmy three new girlfriends are great...so far, everything is great except the lack of a 420 connection. i'm working on that.
chicago dyke


three girlfriends. Bit greedy there, no?


GravatarI wnat have the previous elections probed and paper trail mandated nationally.


GravatarGood one from Wolcott:

The Democratic rout of the Republicans in the midterms has sent a number of rightwing bloggers reeling into the ropes. Trying to get their bearings, they're showing a bad case of the staggers as they try to answer the ringing noises in their heads. Some whose prognostications went awry are seeking consolation in the enfolding, forgiving arms of Faith. Others are playing the political equivalent to Fantasy Baseball, finding new spots on the roster for Santorum and George Allen (see K'Lo's Klubhouse over at NRO's Corner), with the nuttiest pipe dream proffered by Tammy Bruce, who proposes John Bolton as presidential material for 2008.

But no one's gyroscope has gone screwier than the already wobbly Pamela of Atlas Shrugs. For her, John Bolton, on whom she has a mad pash, is too good to be merely president, only the throne of Aztec Sun God would suffice, and the prospect of him being sent out to pasture, along with the other setbacks of the week, has spun her into a fugue state, capped by a post genocidally titled Death to Germany. So hoarse is Pamela's latest yowl (which she quickly, clumsily retitled Eurabia: Death [Will Come] to Germany) that even some loyal readers fear her transmission is overheating...


Gravatarnow that's a thought. get the restaurant and food industries behind a MJ reform movement. hmmmm. chicago dyke

Along with civil unions, the pro-pot initiative went down hard in CO this week.


GravatarHUSKIES 16
BISONS 8


Gravatarmy three new girlfriends are great...

Jeez...and I can't give it away on 2nd avenue....


Gravataryou're spending billions of your tax dollars...to make drug dealers and actual terrorists richer.

You'll have to prove the two are related, but there's no doubt that the defense budget gets way too big a piece of the pie.


GravatarJeez...and I can't give it away on 2nd avenue.... steve simels

Try offering some free (shh)doobies.


Gravatarthree girlfriends. Bit greedy there, no?
ql in ny


ahem. new gfs. there's still my excellent bonobo and a couple wannabes.

i love being gay.


GravatarBut its the vested interests of the prison industry that will make it a long, tough slog of a battle.
flory


Yes, well, there shouldn't be a prison industry. But then, the entire justice system needs serious reform and that's going to have to wait. Again.

I do think it will be legalized eventually and I really didn't mean to say I thought it should be something they are concerned with right now. I don't. Forget that. Let's just stick to the big stuff: corruption and Iraq. Hell, there's more than enough there.

I really do think we're going to be ok, and that we've got time. I really do think the Democrats aren't going to relinquish power again for awhile. The sheer amount of bad shit the Repugs have pulled has completely stripped the party of trustworthiness. For real. There is a poll that says so very clearly.


GravatarToo many, Incog. I do mulch as much as I can with the mower and also dump as many as possible in the beds, but I still end up with 20 or so 55 gal drum sized bags.
billy b -blues deluxe


Yeah, but what does it matter?


GravatarGood evening all.

Jeez...and I can't give it away on 2nd avenue....
steve simels


Meet ya there in 5 minutes, kiddo.


GravatarHow in the fuck did Reagan's economic theory not get laughed out of existence that making the really rich, really richer, in fact benefits the really poor?

Even the really rich George H.W. Bush pegged it as "Voodoo Economics".


Gravatarback later...


Gravatari love being gay.
chicago dyke


Me too. As difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.


GravatarS.F. assemblyman to propose law barring 49ers from using 'San Francisco' if they move.

Maybe it will be the Santa Clara 49ers after all.

A San Francisco assemblyman announced Friday that he plans to propose a state law banning the 49ers from using the city's name if the team relocates.

Assemblyman Mark Leno said it "feels a bit of a rip-off" for a team to relocate but continue to cash in on the San Francisco name.

"Our city's name has great cachet, it clearly has an economic value to it," Leno said.

John York, 49ers team owner, announced Thursday that the team has abandoned efforts to construct a new stadium in San Francisco and is focusing now on a 55-acre Santa Clara site.

The goal is to construct a state-of-the-art football stadium between the team's Santa Clara headquarters and the Great America theme park by 2012.

The team would continue to be called the San Francisco 49ers, York said.

Not so fast, Leno countered Friday.

San Francisco is internationally famous, one of the world's hottest tourist draws and "should have some control" over use of its name, he said.

Leno's proposal would allow a professional sports franchise located elsewhere to call itself "San Francisco" only if the mayor and the Board of Supervisors authorize use of the name.


GravatarHow in the fuck did Reagan's economic theory not get laughed out of existence that making the really rich, really richer, in fact benefits the really poor?

Even the really rich George H.W. Bush pegged it as "Voodoo Economics".
Max Planck


Because the American Dream is that we're all rich, or will be one day.

And there's nothing more American than pissing on the poor, preferably from an imaginary great height. That stuff falling on us? Rainwater, dear, pure rainwater.


GravatarI'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I swear. But will ChiDy give me the time o' day? No! Penisphobe!
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GravatarAfternoon, all.


Gravatarpie- mind clarifying? i guess i just assume everyone understands that 1)prohibition makes the cost of drugs higher, and dealers thus richer and 2)poppy production in af'stan is up like 70% since the invasion, and the reTaliban isn't so upset this time about that. plan columbia hasn't done squat to bring down coca production, blah blah the list goes on and on. as tena says: kids can get drugs easier than booze, does anyone honestly think we've accomplished anything in the "war on drugs?"

other than enrich the prison industry, corrupt law enforcement, piss off millions in drug growing regions, lock up and disenfranchise millions of black, brown and poor people, and give republicans and racists the cover they need to keep on being racist?


GravatarAs difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.

I'm puzzled. Since when do you have a choice?


GravatarI'm kinda suprised that shrub is willing to work with Democrats with his job approval so high:

31%. President Bush’s job approval rating, according to a new Newsweek poll. 5:20 pm | Comment (0)

Filed under:
Posted by Judd at 5:20 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/


GravatarI'd rather be straight, so that my dalliances with other men would seem adventurously indecent. Then I'd snort some meth and get rebuked by godly men. Lay on those hands harder, Brother Bear!


GravatarFuck you, Haloscan. Well, here's the headline. If you're interested, click through:

S.F. assemblyman to propose law barring 49ers from using 'San Francisco' if they move.


GravatarMagoo Goodness!


Gravatarmind clarifying?

Yes. You don't have to prove it to me, but it would be nice if someone could explain that to Americans who don't know that.


GravatarI mean, I can understand if your neighbors get mad at you for not bagging when they do but fuck them. It doesn't mean you're lazy for not bagging. Lawns that are bagged start looking anemic and thin on grass unless they have a service to fertilize because of the bagging.


Gravatardoes anyone honestly think we've accomplished anything in the "war on drugs?"

Sure. Most of the weed you get nowadays is kinda shitty.

Victory!


GravatarJP- it's because you're bacteria, get it straight, alright?

titter. straight.


GravatarAfternoon, all.
Gummo | 11.11.06 - 5:33 pm | #


Hallooooooo!!!!!!!!


GravatarSure. Most of the weed you get nowadays is kinda shitty.

Is that why meth is so popular?


GravatarFrom the department of aggressive spin ...

Although some glitz has come off Mr Rove, Republicans have been more eager to blame botched campaigns and individual ethics scandals. “Bob Sherwood’s seat [in Pennsylvania] would have been overwhelmingly ours, if his mistress hadn’t whined about being throttled,” said Mr Norquist. Any lessons from the campaign? “Yes. The lesson should be, don’t throttle mistresses.”
I guess it would at least be a start.

-- Josh Marshall
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/


Gravatari love being gay.
chicago dyke

Me too. As difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.
Ô¿Ô


I love being me.


Gravatarhey, steve.

would a live soundboard of simon & garfunkle circa 1970 backed by a full band cheer you up?


GravatarHaloscan is begining to crash.


GravatarI could change a few minds around here, trust me.


GravatarI love being me.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


I love being me.

I think you're onto something there.


GravatarI could change a few minds around here, trust me.
slutty jewish girl


That's true --

she could turn us all gay!


Gravatarother than enrich the prison industry, corrupt law enforcement, piss off millions in drug growing regions, lock up and disenfranchise millions of black, brown and poor people, and give republicans and racists the cover they need to keep on being racist?
chicago dyke


Don't leave out arming military juntas in South and Central America to keep the local populations in check. Plus all that lovely heroin money to fund CIA black ops with--Daddy Bush must be pleased!


GravatarNew official Bush portrait released:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/fdHqwl1m.jpg


GravatarToday's final Curly review, but plenty more tomorrow or Monday...
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GravatarAs difficult as most think it would be and it is sometimes, I would still rather be gay than hetero.

I'm puzzled. Since when do you have a choice?
pie


Where in my comment do I imply a choice. What's meant is before I was born, perhaps a cosmic ray hadn't passed through me in the womb or whatever the reason, I was a homo. But I've never hated being gay and it's alot of fun sometimes.


GravatarI could change a few minds around here, trust me.
slutty jewish girl


Call Ted Haggard. NOW!


GravatarI might as well love being me --

it's not like I have any options.


GravatarBolton must go!


"US vetoes motion on Gaza attack

The US has vetoed a UN Security Council resolution condemning an Israeli attack in Gaza that killed 18 civilians, including women and children.

The draft, which also condemned Israeli military operations in Gaza, followed Wednesday's attack in Beit Hanoun.

The US ambassador at the UN, John Bolton, described the text as unbalanced and politically motivated.

Ten of 15 Security Council members backed the resolution. Four abstained - Denmark, Japan, Slovakia and the UK."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 6139968.stm



Haloscan is begining to crash.
Moe Szysla


Haloscan is always crashing, and we are still at war with Oceania.


Gravatarwould a live soundboard of simon & garfunkle circa 1970 backed by a full band cheer you up?
Gummo | 11.11.06 - 5:38 pm | #


Not a huge fan, but thanks for asking.

Of course, if you had a live soundboard of Tom and Jerry.....


GravatarI'm puzzled. Since when do you have a choice?
pie


tell me about it. i tried to be with men, really, for years. and look how that turned out: ruination, depression, despair. shit, my skin even stopped with those annoying pimple thingys once i accepted the facts, and got with the tribadist program. men are cool, they should just be my friends. except for JP, because he thinks he knows more about Macs than I do.


GravatarI really do think the Democrats aren't going to relinquish power again for awhile. The sheer amount of bad shit the Repugs have pulled has completely stripped the party of trustworthiness. For real. There is a poll that says so very clearly.
Tena


Given demographics I think the Dems should hold power, at least in the House, for a generation -- unless they get greedy and corrupt.

And now that we've got a party machinery that understands how to fight, there's no reason not to increase the margin every single cycle....


GravatarBolton must go!
"US vetoes motion on Gaza attack
The US has vetoed a UN Security Council resolution condemning an Israeli attack in Gaza that killed 18 civilians, including women and children. The draft, which also condemned Israeli military operations in Gaza, followed Wednesday's attack in Beit Hanoun. The US ambassador at the UN, John Bolton, described the text as unbalanced and politically motivated. Ten of 15 Security Council members backed the resolution. Four abstained - Denmark, Japan, Slovakia and the UK.".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 6139968.stm


Haloscan is begining to crash.
Moe Szysla

Haloscan is always crashing, and we are still at war with Oceania.


Gravataruh, that last slutty jewish girl post about Simon and Garfunkel was me.


I regret the gender confusion.


Gravatarchicago dyke: JP- it's because you're bacteria, get it straight, alright?

titter. straight.


No matter how rough we play, you know I love you, right? I hope you'll come to the soon-to-be Gnashvegan mini-Eschaton, coming spring/summer 2007. I owe you a hug... but watch out. I've been known to cop a cheap feel.
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GravatarBut I've never hated being gay and it's alot of fun sometimes.

Then you're happy about it, and I'm happy about being heterosexual, and we're both happy.

It's who we are.


GravatarAnd now that we've got a party machinery that understands how to fight, there's no reason not to increase the margin every single cycle....
flory, keeper of the list


That's what I think, too.


GravatarBut I've never hated being gay and it's alot of fun sometimes.
Ô¿Ô | 11.11.06 - 5:40 pm | #


You're gay?

Who knew?


Gravatarchicago dyke: except for JP, because he thinks he knows more about Macs than I do.

Pshaw! No thinkin' required. I've forgotten more about Macs than you ever knew. I never took any of mine in for repair 'cause of a software config issue. What kind of geek could show their face after THAT?!
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GravatarI've been known to cop a cheap feel.

I tink that might be an expensive one to take.


GravatarS.F. assemblyman to propose law barring 49ers from using 'San Francisco' if they move.
Moe Szyslak


General consensus is he's fulla shit. Ain't no trademark on the name.


Gravatarspeaking of cocksuckers, via america blog:

It seems that religious right leader Lou Shelon has some questions to answer, including: Who else among the religious right leaders knew Haggard was gay and did nothing about it?

From Jewish Week, via Talk2Action and dogemperor:


Sheldon disclosed that he and “a lot” of others knew about Haggard’s homosexuality “for awhile ... but we weren’t sure just how to deal with it.”

Months before a male prostitute publicly revealed Haggard’s secret relationship with him, and the reverend’s drug use as well, “Ted and I had a discussion,” explained Sheldon, who said Haggard gave him a telltale signal then: “He said homosexuality is genetic. I said, no it isn’t. But I just knew he was covering up. They need to say that.”

Boy, Lou Sheldon sure is up on his gay code. I didn't realize that people who think being gay is genetic - like, uh, scientists who have actually studied it - are per se all gay because they think it's genetic. What a fascinating man. And a hypocrite.


GravatarCrazy ass thought for the day: Just heard a caller on FOX suggest a Giuliani/Lynn Cheney ticket for 08. Cause she did such a good job with Blitzer. Looks like the election pushed some teetering folks completely around the bend.


GravatarAlong with civil unions, the pro-pot initiative went down hard in CO this week.
JeffCO |


Yeah, I said that myself way upstream.

*sigh* I had such hopes. Was it killed by the front range fundies?


Gravatartell me about it. i tried to be with men, really, for years. and look how that turned out: ruination, depression, despair.

It shouldn't have to happen to anyone.

May you have the love of a good woman and a lot of friendship and fun until you find her.


GravatarI love being me. NT'odd

I never took the smile away from anybody's face.


GravatarI owe you a hug... but watch out. I've been known to cop a cheap feel.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


that's fine. i love breaking wrists of cheap str8 feeling up men. and ntodd can tell you the fine details of what i can do with a riding crop.

/cause you said "rough."/


GravatarJeffraham! I just arrived and you're bitching about Macs! Tsk tsk tsk


GravatarIt kinda creeps me out that Lou Sheldon thinks he has gaydar.


GravatarThat's great...anyone who says homosexuality might be genetic gets the Fundamentalist Body Snatcher screech:

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebuuuuuuuke!


GravatarHola.
I'm watching "A Very British Coup".

Good stuff.

The late, great Ray McNally.


GravatarYou're gay?

Who knew


a friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay..instead of the other way around. It helps keep your mind active and that prevents some of the effects of agings


Gravatar*sigh* I had such hopes. Was it killed by the front range fundies? Tena

Hard to say - a lot of them must have also voted for Ritter for Gov, but we don't seem to have changed much since the Amendment 2 days. Or were you talking about the pot?


Gravatarntodd can tell you the fine details of what i can do with a riding crop.


Is it warm in here or is it just me?


GravatarIt kinda creeps me out that Lou Sheldon thinks he has gaydar.
Moe Szyslak


And just how fine tuned would your gaydar have to be to wonder about ol' Pastor Ted?


Gravatarbonsoir Moe. Did you see you will be the guest of honour at the Liberal convention in a couple of weeks? Howard Dean! The convention is in Montréal, i might go give him a bouquet of flowers!


GravatarCrazy ass thought for the day: Just heard a caller on FOX suggest a Giuliani/Lynn Cheney ticket for 08. Cause she did such a good job with Blitzer. Looks like the election pushed some teetering folks completely around the bend.


The birdcage ticket. That would be fun.


Gravatarthere is a history of senate dems giving republicans a free pass. when back in the early 90s, the dems were "investigating" if vaccines were cause for gulf war syndrome, dems didn't bother to put anybody under oath. people like general swartzkoff and collin powell were free obfuscate. senator rockefeller, in particular, was noteworthy for failing to respond with tough follow up questions, despite obvious lies from swartzkoff.

i've seen nothing but cowardice from rockefeller since then. if he's awarded an investigative committee, expect nothing but shit swept under the rug.


Gravatar I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.

This has been my firm view for nigh on thirty-five years.

Or should I say high on thirty-five years, give or take some long droughts...


GravatarIs it warm in here or is it just me?
steve simels


I'm pretty sure I just heard a {SPROING!!}} coming from a northeasterly direction....


Gravatara friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay

I certainly assume every conservative religious person who hates gays is gay.


GravatarIs it warm in here or is it just me?
steve simels


I got a welt on my thigh just reading that comment.


GravatarPlum P: Jeffraham! I just arrived and you're bitching about Macs! Tsk tsk tsk

Not at all -- I love Macs. I'd never been a successful web guy in the 1990s without them, 'cause I got my web server admin experience starting with Chuck Shotton's MacHTTP (later, WebSTAR). I did that on a rescued Centris 610.
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GravatarAnd there's nothing more American than pissing on the poor

O Robert - be fair. They did abolish debtors' prisons. What else can the ungrateful rabble want?




GravatarYou're gay?

I've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure.


GravatarI'm pretty sure I just heard a {SPROING!!}} coming from a northeasterly direction....

That was just Kayla snoring.


GravatarI didn't realize that people who think being gay is genetic - like, uh, scientists who have actually studied it - are per se all gay because they think it's genetic.

Apparently I need to have a serious talk with myself.


Gravatari've seen nothing but cowardice from rockefeller since then. if he's awarded an investigative committee, expect nothing but shit swept under the rug.
jello


There are enough overlapping committee jurisdictions that I'm not too worried something important will get buried.
Plus you've also got the House. Between Waxman and Conyers, not much is gonna go unanswered....


GravatarPlum! Yep, I posted about that yesterday. Dean will set our Libs straight, while the Dems fire him for being successful. Weird, that.

And Ignatief is going down in flames. It's fun to watch.


Gravatar“Yes. The lesson should be, don’t throttle mistresses.”

And the evangelicals will return to you in droves!


Gravatara friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay

I certainly assume every conservative religious person who hates gays is gay.
Thers


The most vociferous homophobes have the most "issues."


Gravatar"I've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure."
Thers

Nah, he's not gay.


Gravatar I don't know ANYONE who thinks pot should be criminalized anymore.

This has been my firm view for nigh on thirty-five years.

Or should I say high on thirty-five years, give or take some long drought


In Pima county AZ (Tucson) the law is that any new employee hires gets a drug test. I told the people who recently hired me about my narcotic use last winter due to surgery, doctor prescribed of course. They then raised the testing ante from a pee test to a hair snip. They didn't find anything besides the drug cocktails that the docs gave me, but still I was a bit disgruntled about this.


Gravatara friend of mine said learn to assume everyone is gay


i turned gay to celebrate pelosi becoming madam speaker.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.

It bothers me that something so personal should be anyone elses business.

He should not have to explain himself to anyone.

Because there is nothing too explain.


GravatarI called my local fundie nemesis at Alliance Defense Fund. We both write locally opposing each other. We used to exchange little terse emails. The tone of his emails always suggest I'm "tempting him over to the dark side" of something like Haggard wrote, just by me exchanging comments with him with email. Anyway, I asked him about the election and was it about "values" and since that's not the spin this time, was it about "no values." After years of dealing with these people, I instinctively just say something and hang up in their face. Anways, I told him I planned to return to the pages of my local rags and maybe some gay demostrations. Let ADL spend more money here for nothing. They pay him and many others for just my efforts locally.


GravatarI've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure.
Thers



And Ignatief is going down in flames. It's fun to watch.
Moe Szyslak

he tried to use Québec just to gain votes and it failed miserably. We'll have to get used to prime minister Rae I suppose.


GravatarIt kinda creeps me out that Lou Sheldon thinks he has gaydar.
Moe Szyslak


Lou Sheldon creeps me out.

Period!


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 5:53 pm |

showing off again, eh JP? who's got the date tonight, hmmm? that'll teach ya. she loves me for my hands, as well as my Mac. just a little advice.


...ok, i won't pick on you anymore. groper.


Gravatari turned gay to celebrate pelosi becoming madam speaker.
jello


You can't. Because if you can turn gay, then its not genetic. And if you believe its not genetic then you're not gay. QED.


Gravatar"I've suspected for some time that chicago dyke might be gay, but I could never tell for sure."
Thers


Me and Lou Sheldon have been looking for tell-tale "signals," but so far have merely concluded that she belongs to an all-woman equestrian club.


Gravatar"And now that we've got a party machinery that understands how to fight, there's no reason not to increase the margin every single cycle...."
--flory, keeper of the list

That's what I think too. My husband is a bit more cynical. He suggests once their on the hill, the lobbyists will swag them.


GravatarOr were you talking about the pot?

Yes.


GravatarO Robert - be fair. They did abolish debtors' prisons. What else can the ungrateful rabble want?



Tena


And we've been going downhill since.

At least here in Houston we destroyed the freeway overpasses on I-10 so the homeless can't sleep under 'em anymore. And when the freeway is widened to 328 lanes, as it soon will be, the noise will be deafening, and the homeless won't be able to sleep!

Serves 'em right!


GravatarSpeaking of gaydar:

Sheldon disclosed that he and “a lot” of others knew about Haggard’s homosexuality “for awhile ... but we weren’t sure just how to deal with it.”

Months before a male prostitute publicly revealed Haggard’s secret relationship with him, and the reverend’s drug use as well, “Ted and I had a discussion,” explained Sheldon, who said Haggard gave him a telltale signal then: “He said homosexuality is genetic. I said, no it isn’t. But I just knew he was covering up. They need to say that.”
http://americablog.blogspot.com/


GravatarIn Pima county AZ (Tucson) the law is that any new employee hires gets a drug test. I told the people who recently hired me about my narcotic use last winter due to surgery, doctor prescribed of course. They then raised the testing ante from a pee test to a hair snip. They didn't find anything besides the drug cocktails that the docs gave me, but still I was a bit disgruntled about this.
Doug jumping for cholla


I've always had this silly idea that what one does on their OWN time is THEIR business.


Gravatarchicago dyke: Thers is asking if you're gay


GravatarLou Sheldon creeps me out. Period! Terry C

He's got the eyes of a stranger.


GravatarYou can't.

party pooper.


GravatarMy husband is a bit more cynical. He suggests once their on the hill, the lobbyists will swag them.
mer


No question they'll try. And some of them will succeed. It's pretty much up to us to make sure corruption doesn't become so endemic it destroys the party.


GravatarI just always thought chicago dyke was Venustian.


GravatarMe and Lou Sheldon have been looking for tell-tale "signals," but so far have merely concluded that she belongs to an all-woman equestrian club.

Really? I thought she was in an all girls softball team.


Gravatarshe loves me for my hands, as well as my Mac. just a little advice.

Is that a mouse in your pocket?


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.
It bothers me that something so personal should be anyone elses business.
He should not have to explain himself to anyone.
Because there is nothing too explain.
pigboy


did he still win?


GravatarNah, he's not gay.
mike in pr


sweetie, don't let the strap on fool you. unless you're that trannie that i had an embarrassing encounter with from behind that one night after too much vodka at XO, i'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender. my butch #3 gf just said last night, "your cuves put the 'femme' in femme."


GravatarI just always thought chicago dyke was Venustian.
Ô¿Ô


IIRC, the Tralfamadorians say it takes 3 sexes to procreate humans.

I've been meaning to ask Thers about this, actually.


GravatarIt's pretty much up to us to make sure corruption doesn't become so endemic it destroys the party.
flory

i think they know by now that the blogosphere can find any shit they do. They'll behave...or else.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.

it was his choice. bet the letting go of the burden of keeping it hidden must be so liberating.


GravatarI've been in and out getting dinner ready. Be back in a while.

Have I told everyone how happy I am? Damn, both the House and the Senate. I'm loving it.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.
It bothers me that something so personal should be anyone elses business.
He should not have to explain himself to anyone.
Because there is nothing too explain.
pigboy

did he still win?
jello | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:03 pm | #

Oh yeah and big. He has the reputation of doing a great job, which is suprising for the conservative area I live.


Gravatari think they know by now that the blogosphere can find any shit they do. They'll behave...or else.
Plum P


Such innocence...such naivete. It's so touching.

Somehow I don't think even left blogistan can fundamentally alter human nature.


GravatarSomehow I don't think even left blogistan can fundamentally alter human nature.
Rmj

yes we can! we have too! we're the last hope, sniff sniff!


GravatarLook who's back...

The Duggars have been pretty quiet of late.


GravatarAnd when the freeway is widened to 328 lanes, as it soon will be, the noise will be deafening, and the homeless won't be able to sleep!

Serves 'em right!


I'll say it does. If they had any self-respect in the first place, they'd go be homeless in Galveston or Corpus Christi, Port Aransas, you know - the coast! Instead of Houston which everyone knows is uninhabitable anyway.



GravatarSomehow I don't think even left blogistan can fundamentally alter human nature.
Rmj, Street Credentialed


Now, Robert -- plum has a point.

No we can't alter human behaviour, but my comment was that it was up to us to make sure corruption doesn't become endemic. Identify it early and get it the fuck outta the party, so it doesn't tarnish the decent men and women trying to do their jobs.

That we can at least help do.


Gravatari'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender

Do I sense a little teasing going on here?


GravatarI've said it many times before, but:

I've never done drugs, I have never had the desire to do drugs. I don't understand what the attraction is.

That said, I think the so-called War on Drugs is bullshit.

Legalize the stuff, regulate it,tax it, put the proceeds to good use, put the drug dealers out of business and the crime and violence with decrease.


GravatarMy state rep 'came out' during this last election campaign.

it was his choice. bet the letting go of the burden of keeping it hidden must be so liberating.
jello | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:04 pm | #

That's true. I guess in a way he could be breaking down some walls of prejudice.


GravatarThe Duggars have been pretty quiet of late.

Pre-occupied with getting busy.


GravatarSorry -

the crime and violence WILL decrease.


Gravatarflory's right, and what's more, I do think some Democrats understand that we are out here and we're paying attention.

I really do.


Gravatari'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender.

I'm going to go drown myself in a puddle now.


Gravatari don't know, rmj. that seems a little harsh. the blogosphere brought down macacawitz, and put lamont on the map, if not in office. and more.

have some faith, o ye believer. things are changing, and if it's not quickly enough to make us happy, i certainly don't think we're ever going to go back to the days of "what? i never said/did/took that." the intertubes are a beautiful thing in this way. and macacas live forever.


Gravatar2006 Election... A Comedic Roundup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=F23LoQb4VPY

from c&l


Gravatar"Our bodies are meant to be a living sacrifice," write the Hesses. Or, as Mary Pride, in another of the movement's founding texts, The Way Home: Beyond Feminism, Back to Reality, puts it, "My body is not my own." This rebuttal of the feminist health text Our Bodies, Ourselves is deliberate. Quiverfull women are more than mothers. They're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce, homosexuality and child abuse, in that order.




Fuck off, whackjob.


GravatarSaturday Goddess Blogging is up.


Gravatarthe intertubes are a beautiful thing in this way. and macacas live forever.
chicago dyke

amen!


GravatarLet me say this - so far, the Democrats from whom we've heard understand very well that this election was about corruption, principally. It was also about Iraq, but the two are linked,anyway.

The Democrats will start to forget by and by and probably sooner rather than later. And so we'll have to remind them.


GravatarNO taxes on Drugs!


GravatarLook who's back...

The Duggars have been pretty quiet of late.
watertiger


Let's check back in in 15 years and see how many of those kids are in jail or rehab, shall we?


GravatarPre-occupied with getting busy.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


hopefully not you know where


GravatarPre-occupied with getting busy.

She must be up to 19 at this point.


GravatarSo "dyke" isn't your last name, chicago?


GravatarShut up liberals.

Remember:
Record Unemployment
Record DOW high
Great Economy
Low Gas prices $2.08avg
We are currently winning the war on terror

God Bless our President, and
God Bless our Troops


GravatarLook who's back...


Damn, we are amateurs....


GravatarLook who's back...


Mother of Mercy, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, Amen....


GravatarPoint of reference: here I am, a confirmed old heterosexual, albeit a timid and ineffectual one.

But I cannot countenance or fathom the unmitigated preposterous bullshit premise feeding the "debate" about whether gay persons may marry under the law.

The whole issue is pitched by the media as though each of us is a citizen-juror-- which, ipso facto, means an overwhelming majority of straights-- charged to ponder the freaky new question of gay marriage and render a verdict on whether "we" ought to "let" "them" have their marriage.

So the story is mostly just reported as "gay marriage-- the public won't have it". It's such a hot-button issue that politicians won't dare show leadership and address the "tyranny of the majority" embedded in the above-described social fantasy.

We seem stuck in the "separate but equal" rut at best; perhaps further progress is not possible until the younger generation, generally more tolerant of sexual identity, outnumber the permanent anti-gay constituencies, especially opposition based on religious belief.


GravatarThey're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce, homosexuality and child abuse, in that order.



Uh.......what the fuck?


Gravatarugh


Gravatari'm pretty sure the high, firm completely natural titties are proof of my wholly feminine gender

Do I sense a little teasing going on here?
____league |


Like Steve said, it's getting warm in here...


GravatarThe Democrats will start to forget by and by and probably sooner rather than later. And so we'll have to remind them.
Tena


That'll be our new job.


Gravatar Auggy- that message is why you loosers will continue to loose elections!


Gravatarteasing, moi? mais non. jamais.

oh, aquatigre, that's just sick. from her link:

But Wolfson, Moore and thousands of mothers like them call themselves and their belief system "Quiverfull." They borrow their name from Psalm 127: "Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate." Quiverfull mothers think of their children as no mere movement but as an army they're building for God.

Quiverfull parents try to have upwards of six children. They home-school their families, attend fundamentalist churches and follow biblical guidelines of male headship--"Father knows best"--and female submissiveness. They refuse any attempt to regulate pregnancy. Quiverfull began with the publication of Rick and Jan Hess's 1989 book, A Full Quiver: Family Planning and the Lordship of Christ, which argues that God, as the "Great Physician" and sole "Birth Controller," opens and closes the womb on a case-by-case basis. Women's attempts to control their own bodies--the Lord's temple--are a seizure of divine power.


barf. i'm just glad studies show a lot of kids from big families turn out to be so different from their parents, as a response to the lack of attention they receive.


GravatarRemember:
Record Unemployment


Hey augs -- you sure you wanna be bragging on this one?


Gravatar
Uh.......what the fuck?
steve simels


And no, they never make any provisions for the puir widow either.

Tchah.


GravatarGod Bless our President, and
God Bless our Troops
auggysback


you said you'd leave us after a democratic win

why are you a liar?

lies make baby jesus cry


GravatarAuggy, fire of my loins, how are ya, buddy?


GravatarGod Bless our President, and
God Bless our Troops

auggysback

amen.

kaboooooom!


GravatarSaturday Goddess Blogging is up.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspiratox,


Have I told you how much I love Saturday Goddess Blogging? I love it.


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.


GravatarShut up liberals.

Remember:


Shut up, Auggy.

Remember:

WE FUCKING WON!
THE HOUSE!
THE SENATE!
HUGE MANDATE!
GET OVER IT, LOOSER!


GravatarWhen are the Auggy/simels Jersey Nuptials?


GravatarThey're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce, homosexuality and child abuse, in that order.

she left out, out of control healthcare costs, stagnant wages, loss of pensions, attacks on social security, Medicare, Medicaid, cut backs in foodstamps, childcare, school funding. Working women who can't afford to have children is a symptom of a society in decline not a reflection of character.


Gravatarauggy seems to forget that america hates republicans and has nbow moved to the left


GravatarQuiverfull parents try to have upwards of six children. They home-school their families, attend fundamentalist churches and follow biblical guidelines of male headship--"Father knows best"--and female submissiveness.
**
This is so Santorum


GravatarAuggy are you still nursing that hangover?


Gravatar"Our bodies are meant to be a living sacrifice

Sweetheart, if that's how you see things, then have fun.

I don't give a shit what you do with your body. That's your business. If you want to make a sacrifice of it - be my guest. But don't ever make the mistake of thinking you get to make that choice for the rest of us. Cause you don't.


GravatarThank you, Tena!


Gravatarsome hot simels on auggy action
cause steve is obviously a top
and auggy acts like a bottom
and/or the gimp in Pulp Fiction


Gravatarauggy signed up to suck my dick.


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


And they were a means of Social Security after the parents (read widowed mother) could work no more. But now - can we say public tit without any public weal?


GravatarOur bodies are meant to be a living sacrifice

Sweetheart, if that's how you see things, then have fun.

I don't give a shit what you do with your body. That's your business. If you want to make a sacrifice of it - be my guest. But don't ever make the mistake of thinking you get to make that choice for the rest of us. Cause you don't.


Word. And if they're so damn secure in their choice, they won't need to make everyone else do the same thing to make themselves feel as if they made the right choice.


GravatarOh, no.

Auggy is here.

Liar. He said he wouldn't come back here if we took Congress.


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?

WalMart greeter or meth dealer would be my guess.


GravatarWhen are the Auggy/simels Jersey Nuptials?
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:19 pm | #



In case anybody's interested, we're registered at the Pink Pussycat boutique.


Gravatarolexicon: did you know Howard Dean will be the specail speaker at the Liberal convention in a couple of weeks? Should i go do my groupie thing with him since it's in Montréal?


GravatarUggh. I stopped when I got to "glory hoops."


Gravatarauggy signed up to suck my dick.
Ô¿Ô


I approve this message


GravatarWorking women who can't afford to have children is a symptom of a society in decline not a reflection of character.

I'm going to steal that.


GravatarIn case anybody's interested, we're registered at the Pink Pussycat boutique.
steve simels

link please!


GravatarJeez, so Augs is just a bot.

Only a bot wouldn't understand that the whole script just changed.

Someone reprogram the Aug bot and tell it that 11/7 changed everything.

Or, don't. Let it wander around spamming until it finally runs all the way down.


Gravatar--"Father knows best"--and female submissiveness.




Fuck..............that!


Gravatar? Should i go do my groupie thing with him since it's in Montréal?
Plum P |

heck I would
even if it is the Liberal Convention


GravatarAuggy, fire of my loins, how are ya, buddy?

Ah, Simels. You are da bestest, mang.


GravatarIn case anybody's interested, we're registered at the Pink Pussycat boutique.
steve simels | 11.11.06 - 6:22 pm | #

Has anyone bought those asschaps for Auggy yet?


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?


Lately? Overseeing NASA studies, overseeing NIH grants, and overseeing the "reconstruction" of Iraq.


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?



Crack whores, meth manufacturers, cocaine dealers........


GravatarHas anyone bought those asschaps for Auggy yet?
pigboy


I bought the biker from the Village People outfit which i believe is his wedding gown


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


I remember investigating a very old graveyard in Nacogdoches, TX (oldest town in Texas) one autumn afternoon.

A family plot told the story of the family. The father outlived two wives (one of whom died in childbirth; the child was there, too) and all of his 7 or so children, including one that died in his 20's.

A sad tale, but not an uncommon one, for 100 or so years ago.


GravatarWord. And if they're so damn secure in their choice, they won't need to make everyone else do the same thing to make themselves feel as if they made the right choice.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


If its all about female submissiveness, didn't they by definition *not* make a choice? Wasn't their *choice* forced upon them by that dominant male in their lives?

So how can they talk about movements and activism when they're basically just doing what they're told?


GravatarLately? Overseeing NASA studies, overseeing NIH grants, and overseeing the "reconstruction" of Iraq.

It says that directly:

"After arguing Scripture, the Hesses point to a number of more worldly effects that a Christian embrace of Quiverfull could bring. "When at the height of the Reagan Revolution," they write, "the conservative faction in Washington was enforced [sic] with squads of new conservative congressmen, legislators often found themselves handcuffed by lack of like-minded staff. There simply weren't enough conservatives trained to serve in Washington in the lower and middle capacities." But if just 8 million American Christian couples began supplying more "arrows for the war" by having six children or more, they propose, the Christian-right ranks could rise to 550 million within a century ("assuming Christ does not return before then"). They like to ponder the spiritual victory that such numbers could bring: both houses of Congress and the majority of state governor's mansions filled by Christians; universities that embrace creationism; sinful cities reclaimed for the faithful; and the swift blows dealt to companies that offend Christian sensibilities."


GravatarI bought the biker from the Village People outfit which i believe is his wedding gown
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:25 pm | #

dreamy


GravatarExtreme Close Up Kitten Picture

http://kitten-picture.blogspot.c...en- picture.html


Gravatar"They're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce"


Excuse ME for wanting a life of my own.

As for divorce, I suppose these idiots want people who have grown to hate one another to "stay together for the sake of the kids."

Like making children live in a warzone is SO beneficial to them!


GravatarSo these quivermothers have 15 barely educated brats apiece. They can't all become preachers. How do you suppose the other 14 make a living?


When I was a kid there were some people up the street like this. When the kids finally got out of the house, they both predictably, had severe problems adjusting to normal life.


GravatarThe repukes always knew they never had anything really to begin with that's why they so quickly fizzeled out and faded into oblivion.


Gravatarin what state is Auggy and Steve doing it?


GravatarIf its all about female submissiveness, didn't they by definition *not* make a choice? Wasn't their *choice* forced upon them by that dominant male in their lives?

So how can they talk about movements and activism when they're basically just doing what they're told?
flory, keeper of the list


They're not people - they're walking, talking incubators.


GravatarAh, Simels. You are da bestest, mang.
watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:23 pm |


As I've said before -- if I had blood I'd be blushing.


GravatarIf its all about female submissiveness, didn't they by definition *not* make a choice? Wasn't their *choice* forced upon them by that dominant male in their lives?
And they don't seem to interview any husbands, just wives.

It's the Phyllis Schlaffly conundrum.


GravatarOh, and in case you were unsure, those Purity Balls are federally funded.


GravatarWhen I was a kid there were some people up the street like this. When the kids finally got out of the house, they both predictably, had severe problems adjusting to normal life.
Falstaff


It's a safe bet that those kids couldn't WAIT to get the fuck OUT of THAT house.


GravatarLately? Overseeing NASA studies, overseeing NIH grants, and overseeing the "reconstruction" of Iraq.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Let's hope 11/7 changes everything....


Gravatari got auggy his pony gear getup. simels will have fun with that, and the riding crop. i hear auggy blows better when he's tearful.


GravatarAh, kids from big families do okay. They just get the hell away from their siblings is all.

I think the home-schooling thing is more of an issue, because they'll be dumb and narrow-minded.


Gravatarin what state is Auggy and Steve doing it?
Plum P |


I believe Steve announced New Jersey


Gravatarin what state is Auggy and Steve doing it?
Plum P | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:27 pm | #


Jersey. I popped the question to him right after Jersey approved gay marriage.

I proposed with the traditional "Just blow me, okay? By which I mean again."

It was tres romantic.


Gravatari got auggy his pony gear getup. simels will have fun with that, and the riding crop. i hear auggy blows better when he's tearful.


...ah, beloved haloscum. eschaton just wouldn't be the same without your little tantrums.


Gravatari hear auggy blows better when he's tearful.
chicago dyke


That is officially the funniest thing I've read all week


GravatarYou know, people didn't have 14 kids because they wanted to. They had them because they couldn't figure out how not to, and only a certain percentage would ever grow to adulthood.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


And yet pretty much every pre-modern society had means of limiting population growth, ranging from drugs and plants that prevented conception, to aborticides, to infanticide.


GravatarI was at a loss what to get auggy for his bridal shower, then I got an error message saying I was missing a colon separator.

That's the ticket!


GravatarI'm going to go drown myself in a puddle now.

*Splash!*

We'll be waiting to crunch some Ntodd bones.


GravatarWhat's better:

Roses on a piano, or tulips on an organ?





Think about it!


Gravatarboth houses of Congress and the majority of state governor's mansions filled by Christians; universities that embrace creationism; sinful cities reclaimed for the faithful; and the swift blows dealt to companies that offend Christian sensibilities."

And yet, every Saturday morning, in my little eruv, I see happy Jewish families on the way to temple, Mummy, Papa, and four, five, six children, one or two in perambulators.... Ya know, the thing about having babies? Even folks who aren't one with Christ can do it....


GravatarAnd the quiver brats are probably going to be all home-schooled, insuring that we will have all these Auggys running around.

Jebus Chripes on iceskates.


GravatarWord. And if they're so damn secure in their choice, they won't need to make everyone else do the same thing to make themselves feel as if they made the right choice.

You know what this made me suddenly flash on? Doonesbury, when Uncle Duke was in charge of American Samoa. There was an entire story line about the reluctant volcano virgin.

Sorry, but that's what flashed right into the frontal lobes.


GravatarI proposed with the traditional "Just blow me, okay? By which I mean again."

It was tres romantic.

steve simels | 11.11.06 - 6:29 pm | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
what a hoot! you are a romantic


GravatarIt was tres romantic.

steve simels



Gravatarboth houses of Congress and the majority of state governor's mansions filled by Christians; universities that embrace creationism; sinful cities reclaimed for the faithful; and the swift blows dealt to companies that offend Christian sensibilities."




Fundies offend ME.


Gravatarthe colon seperator?

that's more for summer weddings


Gravatara bloodless romantic!


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.


GravatarI think the home-schooling thing is more of an issue, because they'll be dumb and narrow-minded.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


That was my point. I see nothing wrong with a big family if its because you like kids and want a houseful, but to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

And I don't see a lot of success in the future of most of those kids.


GravatarThe Quiver Morons talk like the Nazis did 60 years ago.


GravatarAnd yet pretty much every pre-modern society had means of limiting population growth, ranging from drugs and plants that prevented conception, to aborticides, to infanticide.
Moe Szyslak


My angel, in Western and Central Europe, such knowledge was women's wit, held by wisewomen - and good, g_dfearing Christians steered clear. Not of course, infanticide however. Prevention was regarded as against the will of the Lord. Termination, not so much.


GravatarI proposed with the traditional "Just blow me, okay? By which I mean again."

It was tres romantic.
steve simels


*sniff* Always a bridesmaid, borrowed and blue...


GravatarSorry - 70 years ago.


Gravatarthe fundies kids revolt will become an historical event


GravatarA family plot told the story of the family. The father outlived two wives (one of whom died in childbirth; the child was there, too) and all of his 7 or so children, including one that died in his 20's.

A sad tale, but not an uncommon one, for 100 or so years ago.
Rmj, Street Credentialed


There are so many like that around here where the mother and child died during childbirth. Also, you can see where many escaped the worst of the Civil War as refugees by movning here. They'll list place of birth in Georgia or South Carolina but died here. I think that's what that's about.


GravatarWhen I was a kid there were some people up the street like this. When the kids finally got out of the house, they both predictably, had severe problems adjusting to normal life.

Natural born military recruits. This blows out of the water any possibility of family values winning over. The military culture is powerful in itself, and would corrupt their fundie values.


GravatarExtreme Close Up Kitten Picture

http://kitten-picture.blogspot.c...en- picture.html
Plum P | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:26 pm | #

you're not a kidding that is a close up for sure....... funny thing is, it looks like cats have their hair outside the nose rather than in it. It sure would make nose hair trimming easier for humans.


Gravatarthis kitten rivals my own for the award for cutest ever. damn you, plum, like i needed another time sinking website. /shakes paw/


GravatarThat was my point. I see nothing wrong with a big family if its because you like kids and want a houseful, but to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

And I don't see a lot of success in the future of most of those kids.
flory, keeper of the list



Gonna be a lot of heroin addicts there.


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


a new 1960s
rebellion against American Puritanism


Gravatar
And I don't see a lot of success in the future of most of those kids.


Not without actual educations.

On the other hand, their critical thinking will kick in in high gear once they figure out how fucked up their childhoods were. Like Molly Ivors says about Southern liberals and race: once you figure out the're lying to you about that, you know they're lying to you about everything.


Gravatar*sniff* Always a bridesmaid, borrowed and blue...
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:34 pm | #


What can I tell you...I flit from flower to flower...


Gravatar but to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

No shit. It's like they're breeding serial killers in every litter.


GravatarOh, Auggy's here.

Don't worry, Auggy, Democrats are pretty magnanimous in victory.

*snerk*

No, we're not.


GravatarIf the girls are giving daddy their purity in a little pink box, why doed daddy cut off his BALLs and put them in a little blue-for-boys box and give them to the daughter.

If ball-less daddy ceased producing children as a result of Purity Balls, I'm all for it.

np:44


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


As I pointed out earlier -- that'll be the ones that aren't in jail or rehab by then....


Gravatar
*sniff* Always a bridesmaid, borrowed and blue...


Awww, c'mon over here. I have a brother....


GravatarMany folks think that MTV's "Real World" was the forerunner of reality shows.

I think it was this program called "An American Family" about the Loud family shown on PSB in the early '70's.


GravatarPSB=PBS


GravatarA sad tale, but not an uncommon one, for 100 or so years ago.
Rmj, Street Credentialed



But...but...THOSE were the GOOD old days. Things were better back then.

/wingnut


GravatarAlso, you can see where many escaped the worst of the Civil War as refugees by movning here. They'll list place of birth in Georgia or South Carolina but died here. I think that's what that's about.
Ô¿Ô


There's a whole fair-sized section of the cemetary where my people are buried here in Phoenix, dating to the 1870s & 1880s, where the headstones record birthplaces of Georgia, Texas, Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama - men who came west after the war, to start again - some are recorded as born slaves, died as cowboys....


GravatarI think the Duggars' oldest girls should be hitting 15 or so now. Are they going to marry them off now?


Gravatarmy Huskies arer still winning
and the Vanier Cup is in Saskatoon


GravatarIt's gonna be great about 2020, though, when all these kids blow off their fundie parents and go to San Francisco or Seattle or Austin or wherever the new hip city is and live in squats and do lots of ecstasy.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


Oh, great, that's just what we need. thousands of socially repressed 18 to 20 year olds, moving to "cool" cities just so they can end up crack-whores, and homeless junkies.

Cause you know, their parent's will disown them, and that is exactly how they will end up.


GravatarLike Molly Ivors says

Errrr, Molly Ivins.


Gravatara bloodless romantic!
Plum P


hold on. um, i thought blood was a key element to the, um, process of being something to blow. simels is filled with what? milk? wine? the frothy mix of...no, i won't go there.

there's some pr0n that even i won't do.


GravatarNo shit. It's like they're breeding serial killers in every litter.
Tena



GravatarI realise that the dems do not hold sway over foreign policy, but at some point, someone is going to have to have a sit down with the radical islamists. Because at the rate 43 is heading, we will lose this so called WOT. Already, we have no ally that is capable of creating a decisive victory over these people. We are going to have to find some kind of neutral ideology that they and us can come to an agreement to cease hostilities. Preferably before the entire world goes up in flames. Someone is going to have to begin by just raising the point. At some time, we all have to realise that bombs and bullets are not going to solve the problems that both sides percieve as threats. I just hope that this happens soon.


GravatarOn the other hand, their critical thinking will kick in in high gear once they figure out how fucked up their childhoods were.

I wonder tho if it won't be too late for them by then.


Gravatarbut to raise 15 kids when you see them as some kind of brainwashed army for jeebus is flat out fucking creepybadwrong...

No shit. It's like they're breeding serial killers in every litter.
Tena



Genetic Russian Roulette, too.

If you have THAT many kids, chances are one or two of them are going to have serious physical or mental handicaps.


GravatarOh, great, that's just what we need. thousands of socially repressed 18 to 20 year olds, moving to "cool" cities just so they can end up crack-whores, and homeless junkies.

Cause you know, their parent's will disown them, and that is exactly how they will end up.
David (Austin Tx)


Doesn't Austin have enough problems?


GravatarRun NTodd, they're on to ya!


GravatarAnd another question:

HOW do you have the time and energy, not to mention the financial means, to take care of 15 kids?????????


Gravatarthe fundies kids revolt will become an historical event
Plum P


Long live the PKRAP!

All hail the glorious Preachers Kids Righteously Against Prudes!

You have nothing to lose but your control!


GravatarI think the Duggars' oldest girls should be hitting 15 or so now. Are they going to marry them off now?
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


Did they get their little pink boxes?


GravatarI remember seeing Blind Melon's "no rain" video (remember the Bee Girl, who went from place to place trying to find somewhere she fit in, until she came across a meadow filled with other kids in bee suits?) followed by Soul Asylum's "runaway train" video, with all the missing kid posters.


Gravatarhold on. um, i thought blood was a key element to the, um, process of being something to blow. simels is filled with what? milk? wine? the frothy mix of...no, i won't go there.

chicago dyke

i was just quoting him, look:

As I've said before -- if I had blood I'd be blushing.
steve simels | 11.11.06 - 6:27 pm |


Gravatarchidy -
I tried to be with men, really, for years. and look how that turned out: ruination, depression, despair. shit, my skin even stopped with those annoying pimple

I've been married for 25 years, and all that stuff happens to me. Maybe the problem is being with one man.

np:44


GravatarOh, great, that's just what we need. thousands of socially repressed 18 to 20 year olds, moving to "cool" cities just so they can end up crack-whores, and homeless junkies.



I recently read where a lot of porn stars grew up in overly religious homes.


Gravatardating to the 1870s & 1880s, where the headstones record birthplaces of Georgia, Texas, Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama - men who came west after the war, to start again - some are recorded as born slaves, died as cowboys....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers


They have the black rodeo circuit in town here this week. I think people left seeking new frontiers. There's not that old escape for ushere in the New World anymore like that.


GravatarGreetings kiddies! Back from the theatre and a film called Babel. Very thought provoking. I just thought there would be answers at the end. Very disappointing that.


Gravatar"An American Family"

Excellent show. Cinema verite of the dysfuntional but loving American family dynamic. Well worth getting on DVD if that exists, probably not. More like a cappucino-staines but still viewable vhs in some obscure Salvation Army bargain bin by serendipity.


GravatarMany folks think that MTV's "Real World" was the forerunner of reality shows.

i just read in one of DC's weekly gay mags that the Mr. Gay American contest included one man who entered the contest just after succeeding in a court case...to preserve his rights to the video in which he is fisting a "real world" member from a few years back.

auggy, would that make a better gift than the bridle? 'cause i think i can get it.

...haloscum is about to get fisted, i'll tell you that...


GravatarAnd Tena, flory, et al-- I heartily agree on the issue of keeping the newly-empowered Democrats from quietly tiptoeing away from confronting the criminal underbelly of the present regime.

Yes, I am going to go berserk about this, possibly getting on everyone's nerves in the process and wearing out my welcome. I'm as passionate about "social justice" as Tena is about "We the People". I truly believe that the transition from the Compassionate State to the Hollow State which began with Reagan, and was not reversed by any succeeding administration, dumped the baby of "social justice" out with the bathwater of "oversized government".

I'll stop as soon as I feel those dried-spit bubbles forming at the corners of my mouth. In the meantime: one of the shucks underpinning the Corporatized Hollow State is that a business model is universal and the one and only approach to managing delivery of services. So things are pretty much organized according to cost/benefit precepts.

And from this perspective, social justice is a money pit. It's not one of those attractive win-win opportunities, such as politicians combining with businesses in some boondoggle. It's about seeking justice for high crimes and misdemeanors on behalf of all of the nameless, faceless citizens who were harmed by the cabal's excesses.

PS: See the “Common Dreams” article “What the Democrats Should Do Now” by Robert B. Reich. http://www.commondreams.org/view...s06/1109- 30.htm

In case you don’t have the time or interest to check it out (like Reich himself, it’s very short), it basically argues that Democrats should accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative now that they’re back in charge of the legislative branch—or the remaining stump of it.

Here’s the gist: “Some Democrats want to expose the malfeasance and nonfeasance of the Bush Administration – find out who really knew what and when with regard to weapons of mass destruction, Abu Graahb, Katrina, payoffs to Abramoff and all the other rot. That’s understandable, but it would be far better if Democrats used their new-found power to lay out a new agenda for America.

There’s no point digging up more dirt.”

This article gave me the whim-whams. It's standard fare from DLC and Clintonista Democrats, IMO.


GravatarHOW do you have the time and energy, not to mention the financial means, to take care of 15 kids?????????
Terry C, An American Again


You don't. Trust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.


Gravatari turned gay to celebrate pelosi becoming madam speaker.
jello

You can't. Because if you can turn gay, then its not genetic. And if you believe its not genetic then you're not gay. QED.
flory, keeper of the list


Such a simple concept.

Why don't people get it?


Gravatarman I'm missing like every third letter. It's been a rough half-decade.


GravatarHello everybody. I've been following the conversation for the last little while, don't have much to add, just saying hello. Happy first post-w-era weekend.


GravatarGreeting, rational people.


Gravatar I see nothing wrong with a big family if its because you like kids and want a houseful,

I know that this is unpopular and will get me flamed, but the Earth can't support large families. There are too many people here. See, e.g., Gaia's Revenge by James Lovelock. I'd like us to find solutions that DON'T involve governmental control, but if that's going to happen, it's going to need to happen globally and quickly, say, in the next 20 years or so.


GravatarMolly,

check here for all the latest!


GravatarRun NTodd, they're on to ya!

Barry from Alaska



damn you Barry,you made me cough!


GravatarDid they get their federally funded little pink boxes?

fixed yer typo.


GravatarThis article gave me the whim-whams. It's standard fare from DLC and Clintonista Democrats, IMO.

Not going to happen.

It's conciliatory stuff until the shit hits the fan.


GravatarTrust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.

Amen. As the oldest daughter from a large, Catholic family, I have HUGE issues around this. HUGE. It's JUST NOT RIGHT. Those girls deserve childhoods.


GravatarTrust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.

Amen. As the oldest daughter from a large, Catholic family, I have HUGE issues around this. HUGE. It's JUST NOT RIGHT. Those girls deserve childhoods.


GravatarNah, those kids aren't going to start thinking critically at age 20 or 21 or whenever they realize the world doesn't work the way mommy & daddy taught them. They won't have the tools to do any critical thinking -- remember, homeschooled? No, they'll rebel by handing over control to some other authoritarian culture -- a cult, a gang, an abusive marriage, the neo-nazis. The healthier ones will be able to join the military and get some sort of an education, maybe even learn a trade -- but I'm guessing most of them won't have the tools to be able to think through what their parents indoctrinated them with. Jeez.


GravatarShut up liberals.

auggysback


Hey, Auggy.

Great win by Sugar Tits Harris Tuesday night.


Gravatarthat's not a family, it's a cult


GravatarOne reason Clinton's early years were such a disaster is because there weren't any experienced executive staff around the White House. His staff didn't know how to play the game and they got pwned.
flory


that's being generous. to this day, clinton insists on providing cover for his so called enemies. you know how many speeches he has given? where he rattles off a list of criminal conservapukes, then insists they are all good men who want nothing but the best for the country.

failure to play hardball is a clintonite acolyte trademark. especially visible during the early days of 9/11 and iraq war, when dems didn't even want to talk about holding bush accountable for his failures. you had to drag them kicking and screaming just to get them away from standing shoulder to shoulder with the bastard.


GravatarYou don't. Trust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.

I actually recommend clicking on the link I provided to Molly; it's incredibly informative, even if it doesn't mean to be.


GravatarAmen. As the oldest daughter from a large, Catholic family, I have HUGE issues around this. HUGE. It's JUST NOT RIGHT. Those girls deserve childhoods.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Oldest of six, Hecate.

I hear ya!


GravatarI recently read where a lot of porn stars grew up in overly religious homes.
Terry C, An American Again!


And there are a surprising number of porn stars who say they are Christian, as well.


Gravatarflory is right. I'm the oldest of nine, and I've known how to change a diaper for 52 years. My sisters and I were primary care givers for the younger children.

Not a good situation - nothing good about it.

np:44


GravatarI know that this is unpopular and will get me flamed, but the Earth can't support large families. There are too many people here. See, e.g., Gaia's Revenge by James Lovelock. I'd like us to find solutions that DON'T involve governmental control, but if that's going to happen, it's going to need to happen globally and quickly, say, in the next 20 years or so.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Why can't people who want big families and can afford them ADOPT????


GravatarOh, Auggy's here.

Please do not tease. That cannot possibly be true.


GravatarWhat can I tell you...I flit from flower to flower...
steve simels


Galloping in double-time...


Gravatarfailure to play hardball is a clintonite acolyte trademark.

*sigh*


GravatarIt's conciliatory stuff until the shit hits the fan.
pie


Already has. NYT reports Cheney is determined to make Bolton UN Ambassador, de facto since he can't do it de jure. Gonna be interesting when that rebounds on him and the Democrats look sensible for following the law and practice and Cheney gets caught trying to have it his way no matter what anyone says.


GravatarThere’s no point digging up more dirt.”

This article gave me the whim-whams. It's standard fare from DLC and Clintonista Democrats, IMO.
Little Brøther


Na. Ga. Happen.

What's one sure as shit way to get your face on the teebee? Get Rummy or Darth testifying under oath before your committee.

Those boyz and girlz are salivating at the prospect.


GravatarI recently read where a lot of porn stars grew up in overly religious homes.
Terry C, An American Again!

And there are a surprising number of porn stars who say they are Christian, as well.
Moe Szyslak


They're more Christian than the fundies are.


GravatarAnd even if you want a big family you can still have one
plenty of chidren needs homes


Gravatarpie is so cute.


GravatarNYT reports Cheney is determined to make Bolton UN Ambassador, de facto since he can't do it de jure.

You must not be up on the latest 9-9 news with Chafee.


Gravatarthat's being generous.

Listen, greenshirt. Win a federal race and then talk.


Gravatarthat's being generous.

Listen, greenshirt. Win a federal race and then talk.


Gravatari hate haloscan. that is all.


GravatarHOW do you have the time and energy, not to mention the financial means, to take care of 15 kids?????????
Terry C, An American Again

You don't. Trust me, the older daughters are little mommies to the younger kids by the time they're eight.
flory, keeper of the list


Yep and that sucks!


GravatarIf you have THAT many kids, chances are one or two of them are going to have serious physical or mental handicaps.
Terry C, An American Again!

Wasn't there a study a while back that said the more siblings, the more chance of being born gay?


GravatarOkay -- one last post before I head off into the desert of no WiFi (today): Heathersaurus Rex!

I was helping a 16 year old guy figure out what bus to take to get to his N.A. meeting. His sponsor bailed on him, and we started out talking about computers and whatnot. I ended up talking to his mama on the cell, 'cause the sponsor said he looked for the kid here, and he wasn't here -- which is a lie. The kid hadn't left my sight for more than a minute in the last two hours. Now Mama knows the score.

I think I'll hang, though... I can catch the last bus outbound at 7:21. Heh!
.


Gravatarfailure to play hardball is a clintonite acolyte trademark.

*sigh*
pie


I know, pie.


GravatarOh, Auggy's here.

Please do not tease. That cannot possibly be true.
Snow


nah, i think it was one of us pretenting to be Auggy to get Steve all excited. And some perv reason we like the mental of Steve doing it - hard - to Auggy...


GravatarWASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives led by frequent China critic Nancy Pelosi will intensify scrutiny of Chinese trade and human rights practices, but will stop short of confrontation, American and Chinese experts said.


So the dems will talk and posture but they won't actually do anything. The more things change...


GravatarI'd like us to find solutions that DON'T involve governmental control, but if that's going to happen, it's going to need to happen globally and quickly, say, in the next 20 years or so.
Hecate,


here is a ray of hope: pollution is make people sterile.


GravatarI know that this is unpopular and will get me flamed, but the Earth can't support large families.

You're right in the long term. But the problem is not the teeny percentage of large families in the developed world. It's the huge percentage of large -- and unwanted -- families in the developing world. And there are answers, if we could get our foreign aid policies untangled from the xtianists....


GravatarDemocrats look shrill, vengeful, and irresponsible for following the law and practice and Cheney gets caught trying to have it his way no matter what anyone says.
Rmj, Street Credentialed | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 6:48 pm | #


Fixed your typo.


GravatarAlready has. NYT reports Cheney is determined to make Bolton UN Ambassador, de facto since he can't do it de jure.

Oh wait.

Explain, please.


GravatarListen, greenshirt. Win a federal race and then talk.
Snow

never voted green in my life. try again.


GravatarIf you have THAT many kids, chances are one or two of them are going to have serious physical or mental handicaps.
Terry C, An American Again!

Wasn't there a study a while back that said the more siblings, the more chance of being born gay?
1watt Hermit


I read that. But, since it isn't in the bible, the quiver idiots wouldn't know that.


GravatarHi mena (waves)


GravatarDick Cheney Controls the Universe


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian = all around great guy


GravatarFuck Helloscam and the colon separator it rode in on!

PS: When I get mad I stay mad.


GravatarHere in the Tucson area, Gas prices have begun to go up. In Benson the gas station my wife fills up at sometimes (can't remember which brand) went up 5 cents on Thursday. The Fry's grocery/gas station went up a penny on Wednesday. (still at $1.99/gal, but that's subsidized if you shop at the grocery store)


Any possibility of investigations of this in January?


Gravatarjello, there's noting cute about any of this.


GravatarThose girls deserve childhoods.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Not in the xtianist worldview. Those girls only reason for existence is to pump out more little warriors for jeebus. What need have they of a childhood?


GravatarGood evening, ya'll.

You know how Rummy cannot go to Germany? Check out this Rall cartoon. Heh. Heh. Heh.


GravatarWhy can't people who want big families and can afford them ADOPT????
Terry C,


because brown babies can't be real christians, only their handmaidens and slaves.


GravatarAny possibility of investigations of this in January?
Doug jumping for cholla | 11.11.06 - 6:53 pm | #


Remember, Doug...this election was a rebuke to liberalism! Let centrism be your watchword!


GravatarAny possibility of investigations of this in January?
Doug jumping for cholla | 11.11.06 - 6:53 pm | #


Remember, Doug...this election was a rebuke to liberalism! Let centrism be your watchword!


Gravatarnever voted green in my life. try again.

Heh. What is it you think you can achieve?


GravatarWell kids, I'm off to my local watering hole.

Why, you ask?

Why, to quaff elitist chardonnay with my satanic commie buds blah blah blah you know the drill.

Have fun in my absence (you may taunt my little love muffin auggy if you like) and I look forward to chatting with you later in the evening, when I will return to the keyboard with drink-palsied hands and start typing strange words like gazorninplat.


GravatarA fake Auggy? *tsk*

How disappointing.


Gravatarthere used to a girl blogger who liked to bandy about "greenshirt." hamlette? what happened to her?


GravatarBolton will be appointed to a deputy slot at the UN, and no one will be nominated by the White House for the Ambassadorship


GravatarOh wait.

Explain, please.
pie


Here ya go:

But Mr. Bolton is keen to stay at the helm of the American team at the United Nations, administration officials say, and White House officials, including Mr. Bush’s counsel, Harriet E. Miers, have been looking into whether the president can somehow bypass the Senate and keep him there. Administration officials said Vice President Dick Cheney was backing exploration of such a move.

Mr. Bolton “could be named acting permanent representative or deputy U.N. ambassador or something else that doesn’t require confirmation,” a senior administration official said.

Obviously, doing that will anger Democrats, the official said. “But we’ll see.”

When senators blocked Mr. Bolton’s confirmation last year, Mr. Bush gave him a recess appointment, which expires when this Congress adjourns. Mr. Bush could give Mr. Bolton a second recess appointment as the United Nations ambassador, but under the law he could not be paid for his work.

White House officials are looking into whether he can be paid by some other entity and still serve as ambassador, or whether a de facto position could be created in which Mr. Bolton served as ambassador for all intents and purposes, but not in name.

Such a move would almost certainly enflame relations between the White House and the ascendant Democrats and would probably kill any further talk about bipartisan cooperation.


GravatarWe need to 1) lay out and enact restoration and progress, 2) expose the crimes since 2000, and 3) make SURE the GOP contributes to these repairs.

It's a tall order, but neglecting either of these three categories sets us up for more repetition of history ignored.


Gravatarhttp://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/ sto...EMPLATE=DEFAULT
suck this spanky


GravatarHoly shit!



Recipes

TATER TOT CASSEROLE
2 lb ground turkey cooked, seasoned, drained
3 2lb bags tater tots
2 cans cream of mushroom
2 cans evaporated milk
2 cans cream of chicken
Brown meat & place in large cass. dish.
Cover with tater tots. Mix soup & milk together.
Pour over top. Bake at 350 for 1 Hour.
(One of Daddy’s Favorites!) Makes 2- 9”X13” pans


I'm speechless.


Gravatarsimels, Are you in the 'hood again?


GravatarThis can't be RMJ, because Bolton's nomination is dead, thanks to Chafee.


GravatarSuch a move would almost certainly enflame relations between the White House and the ascendant Democrats and would probably kill any further talk about bipartisan cooperation.

Not that this will deter the petulant three year old in the Oval Office.


Gravatar*waving back to Tena*

Nolly - the only thing that recipe's missing is crushed potato chips.


Gravatarit's incredibly informative, even if it doesn't mean to be.
watertiger


I like the recipe page.

Tater Tot Casserole

Broccoli Casserole -- first listed ingredient is Velveeta.

It's a fucking parody site....


GravatarA fake Auggy? *tsk*

How disappointing.
Buzz Bomb


I should've known that the real one wouldn't have the stones to show up.

Too busy posting his nonsense on his sorry excuse for a blog.


GravatarI'm speechless.

I gained ten ponds just reading the recipe.


GravatarHave the Wilsons been indicted yet?


GravatarA fake Auggy? *tsk* How disappointing.

He can't stay here with every single hope he had shattered.


GravatarDick Cheney Controls the Universe
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot


Hmmm...the things that pop up when Googlin "cheney universe".


Gravatarpounds


Gravatarbye Steve! Be back for SNL, it might not totally suck since Alec Baldwin is again hosting and he always brings the quality up if only a bit


GravatarWasn't there a study a while back that said the more siblings, the more chance of being born gay?

There was a study like that applying to male siblings. Almost as if it were an immune reaction from the mother's body. If true, it could only be a partial explanation.


GravatarI've been putting together tomorrow's post for FDL, and can't remember where I saw it, but somebody suggested that maybe Bush will appoint Lieberman to the U.N.


GravatarIf we're talking investigations. How about voter intimidation and Diebold investigations?


GravatarMolly.


Gravatarbecause brown babies can't be real christians, only their handmaidens and slaves

Alas, this is what it has come down to.

There's more than a little racism involved with the Fundigelicals.


Gravatar"TATER TOT CASSEROLE
I'm speechless."

I think that's one of the "dugger's" recipes. The only way their children don't grow up hugely fat, is that they have to fight to get enough food from the hog trough.


GravatarIf Bolton thinks it's so important that he stays on at the UN, the least he could do is view it as pro bono work.

oh yeah, they don't *believe* in that...


GravatarI'm speechless.

Isn't that just a recipe for baked soup?

I mean, even that many tater tots are not going to sop up that much liquid. And even if they did, aren't you just going to wind up with baked, soup-flavored tater tots?


Gravatarvoter intimidation and Diebold investigations?


those would be good


Gravatarvoter intimidation and Diebold investigations?


those would be good


GravatarBut the problem is not the teeny percentage of large families in the developed world. It's the huge percentage of large -- and unwanted -- families in the developing world. And there are answers, if we could get our foreign aid policies untangled from the xtianists....

I agree, in part. Everyone born into the developed world uses many, many, many times the resources of those born into the developing world. That's a problem. And, it's getting worse as people in say, China, expect to have more and more of the creature comforts that people in Western Europe and America enjoy. But even beyond that, the percentage of our land that has to be turned over to agribusiness to support that many people is endangering the planet's survival. We can't cut down ALL of our forests, but that's where we're headed -- and headed fast.

I think this is an incredibly sticky area, because having children is, for so many people, a huge part of being human. We don't want the government to control it, because we can't imagine that they'll do it in a fair way (I don't think that government can.) But if we don't very quickly come up with a very way to limit families globally, we're going to see some combination of government control and control by Gaia (via, say, storms, floods, droughts, etc.) And, I do agree that getting our sex education policy, our medical policies, and our foreign policy out of the hands of dominionists is vital. ,


GravatarThis can't be RMJ, because Bolton's nomination is dead, thanks to Chafee.
pie


The plan is to appoint Bolton to a non-confirmed position, and appoint a puppet Ambassador who would defer to Bolton on everything.

Or just appoint Bolton in recess again, which would keep him there for 2 years, if I understand correctly, and find someone to pay his salary, since the gov't can't.


GravatarTATER TOT CASSEROLE



Is that what the Duggars have?

Where's the Saltpeter for "daddy's serving"?


Gravatar
It's a fucking parody site....


You're such an optimist.


GravatarTATER TOT CASSEROLE
2 lb ground turkey cooked, seasoned, drained
3 2lb bags tater tots
2 cans cream of mushroom
2 cans evaporated milk
2 cans cream of chicken
Brown meat & place in large cass. dish.
Cover with tater tots. Mix soup & milk together.
Pour over top. Bake at 350 for 1 Hour.
(One of Daddy’s Favorites!) Makes 2- 9”X13” pans

I'm speechless.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


Whenever I hear "cream of ANYTHING soup" in a recipe, I reach for my gun!

Yes, I am a food snob.


Gravatarsimels, Are you in the 'hood again?
res ipsa loquitur | 11.11.06 - 6:57 pm | #


Just for the weekend, alas.


And now I really gotta go....


GravatarHave the Wilsons been indicted yet?
Shellshocked Wingnut


Okay, this nom de blog made me laugh out loud.


GravatarBroccoli Casserole -- first listed ingredient is Velveeta.

It's a fucking parody site....
flory


well the kids will all be dead by 25 with that food!


GravatarThis can't be RMJ, because Bolton's nomination is dead, thanks to Chafee.
pie


I'd file that under
"decider hubris"


GravatarOr just appoint Bolton in recess again, which would keep him there for 2 years, if I understand correctly, and find someone to pay his salary, since the gov't can't.

Doesn't that violate some Federal law?


GravatarHiya mena!

And yes, res. Soup flavored tater tots. Bleah.


Gravatarmmmmm. baked soup.

I like soup.


GravatarI mean, even that many tater tots are not going to sop up that much liquid. And even if they did, aren't you just going to wind up with baked, soup-flavored tater tots?
res ipsa loquitur


My nonna would cross herself and give me a swift kick in the culo if I ever dared served anything like that.


GravatarSo the dems will talk and posture but they won't actually do anything. The more things change...
spanky


O well, if Reuters said so...






fuckwit


GravatarI just don't see how they can accept HoJo in the Senate and still keep Pete Rose out of the Baseball Hall of Fame!


GravatarI'm speechless.

Moi, aussi. Nutritional value=0. Taste=-10


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ mena! ♥ ♥ ♥

What's shakin', sweetness?
.


Gravatarwell the kids will all be dead by 25 with that food!

That's their problem. Mom did her job. Birthed 'em and fed 'em within budget. Mission Accomplished.


GravatarOr just appoint Bolton in recess again, which would keep him there for 2 years, if I understand correctly, and find someone to pay his salary, since the gov't can't.

If the govenment can't pay his salary, how can he be representative of the government?


GravatarOr just appoint Bolton in recess again, which would keep him there for 2 years, if I understand correctly, and find someone to pay his salary, since the gov't can't.

And how much power will he have?

They're making the UN totally worthless.

Nice.


GravatarCan we handle another?
LAYERED ICE CREAM CAKE
24 Ice cream sandwiches
8 oz. Cool Whip™
1 Hershey’s™ chocolate syrup bottle
1 Smuckers™ caramel syrup bottle
2 king size Butterfinger™ candy bars chopped up
1st layer -12 ice cream sandwiches
2nd – half of whipped cream
3rd - half of Butterfinger™ bars, Squeeze 1/2 of caramel &
chocolate over that.
4th - rest of ice cream sandwiches
5th – Cool Whip™
6th - rest of Butterfinger™, caramel & chocolate. Yummy! Yummy!


I think my pancreas just gave out.


GravatarOr just appoint Bolton in recess again

How many times is the President permitted to do that horsehit? Indefinitely? And if the Senate formally puts the kibosh an such an appointment, can the President just re-appoint the jackass in recess?


GravatarTater Tot Casserole

Broccoli Casserole -- first listed ingredient is Velveeta.

It's a fucking parody site....
flory, keeper of the list


They're not even feeding their kids healthy stuff.


GravatarI think this is an incredibly sticky area, because having children is, for so many people, a huge part of being human. We don't want the government to control it, because we can't imagine that they'll do it in a fair way (I don't think that government can.) But if we don't very quickly come up with a very way to limit families globally, we're going to see some combination of government control and control by Gaia (via, say, storms, floods, droughts, etc.) And, I do agree that getting our sex education policy, our medical policies, and our foreign policy out of the hands of dominionists is vital.

Mother nature will take care of this, eventually.

We may not like her approach, though. But she's not going to give us any options.


GravatarMoi, aussi. Nutritional value=0. Taste=-10

Well, you are going to get your RDA of sodium ...


GravatarIt's a fucking parody site....

it's certainly entertaining.


GravatarI've been putting together tomorrow's post for FDL, and can't remember where I saw it, but somebody suggested that maybe Bush will appoint Lieberman to the U.N.
watertiger


Thereby leaving his Senate seat vacant, to be filled by an appointment by Republican Governor Rell.


GravatarI just don't see how they can accept HoJo in the Senate and still keep Pete Rose out of the Baseball Hall of Fame!

Was HoJo bettin' on baseball? I guess the MLB has higher standards than the Senate.


GravatarI declare Tuesday the beginning of the Dean Coalition.


GravatarI declare Tuesday the beginning of the Dean Coalition.


GravatarI think my pancreas just gave out.

All that and she can't even use real whipped cream.


GravatarSuch a move would almost certainly enflame relations between the White House and the ascendant Democrats and would probably kill any further talk about bipartisan cooperation.
Rmj, Street Credentialed


You know what? I hope he does. Nothing...absolutely nothing will make it more clear that any talk of "bipartisanship" on the part of the Bush Crime Family is so much horseshit.
And I suspect we're gonna need some serious evidence to point to when some of our more invertebrate DLCers start talking about cutting deals.


GravatarLAYERED ICE CREAM CAKE
24 Ice cream sandwiches
8 oz. Cool Whip™
1 Hershey’s™ chocolate syrup bottle
1 Smuckers™ caramel syrup bottle
2 king size Butterfinger™ candy bars chopped up
1st layer -12 ice cream sandwiches
2nd – half of whipped cream
3rd - half of Butterfinger™ bars, Squeeze 1/2 of caramel &
chocolate over that.
4th - rest of ice cream sandwiches
5th – Cool Whip™
6th - rest of Butterfinger™, caramel & chocolate. Yummy! Yummy!


If you'll pardon me, I'll just slip into a nice little diabetic coma right now...


GravatarTATER TOT CASSEROLE

Wonder what she serves on the side? Probably canned cream corn.


GravatarYes, I am a food snob.
Shaw Kenawe

you could do that receipe with real ingredients and it would be fine. Make a real bechamel and mushrooms instead of canned. Do a parmentier with real potates, etc. With the workforce they breed,they have time to prepare the stuff. But no, they have to do it the trailer trash way. Dead at 25 i say


Gravatarwell the kids will all be dead by 25 with that food!

Kids are pretty resilient. However, they are very likely all to be living in vans down by the river.


Gravatarhi just got here? what's up?


GravatarRJM,

Wow. They learned absolutely nothing, huh?

OK. Well then Pelosi needs to call W and Cheney up and say, "Let it be war between us." We have to protect our Constitution. I didn't vote for the Democrats to let them sit by and watch W flush what's left of it down the drain.


GravatarThe Duggar family report that tater tots casserole is Daddy's favorite.

np:44


GravatarAll that and she can't even use real whipped cream.

Which really isn't more expensive.


GravatarAbout Bolton: I think Bolton Watch at TPM Cafe has the best info on everything having to do with Bolton. The last post says Bolton's gone: the Senate won't confirm and the White House doesn't want to antagonize the Dems right off the bat.


Gravataryou could do that receipe with real ingredients and it would be fine. Make a real bechamel and mushrooms instead of canned. Do a parmentier with real potates, etc. With the workforce they breed,they have time to prepare the stuff. But no, they have to do it the trailer trash way. Dead at 25 i say
Plum P


Now you know they don't know what those fancy French words mean!


GravatarAll that and she can't even use real whipped cream.

They cannot afford good food on their budget.


Gravatar24 Ice cream sandwiches
8 oz. Cool Whip™
1 Hershey’s™ chocolate syrup bottle
1 Smuckers™ caramel syrup bottle
2 king size Butterfinger™ candy bars chopped up
1st layer -12 ice cream sandwiches
2nd – half of whipped cream
3rd - half of Butterfinger™ bars, Squeeze 1/2 of caramel &
chocolate over that.
4th - rest of ice cream sandwiches
5th – Cool Whip™
6th - rest of Butterfinger™, caramel & chocolate. Yummy! Yummy!


Salvador Dali Good Humor Man


GravatarLAYERED ICE CREAM CAKE

Look at it this way: the recipe calls for ice cream sandwiches, i.e., this course counts as the entree and dessert.


GravatarWatch it. We'll be talking about Mormon recipes next.

np:44


GravatarOr just appoint Bolton in recess again, which would keep him there for 2 years, if I understand correctly, and find someone to pay his salary, since the gov't can't.
Rmj, Street Credentialed


Can't. You're only allowed one recess appt.

They'd have to go the Deputy route...which may not work so good depending on UN protocol. There may very well be meetings, briefings, sessions, etc that deputies would not be eligible to attend.


Gravatar. However, they are very likely all to be living in vans down by the river.

Yummy yummy!


Gravataryou could do that receipe with real ingredients and it would be fine. Make a real bechamel and mushrooms instead of canned. Do a parmentier with real potates, etc. With the workforce they breed,they have time to prepare the stuff. But no, they have to do it the trailer trash way. Dead at 25 i say
Plum P


GravatarNow you know they don't know what those fancy French words mean!
Terry C,

sorry!


Gravatarattacked by armies of fat children?


GravatarThey cannot afford good food on their budget.

Actually, you could eat a lot of really decent rice-and-beans type stuff as main courses, but you would have to be willing to take that cultural leap. A lot of Americans don't feel as though they've had a meal unless there's meat involved.


GravatarThey cannot afford good food on their budget.

I'm tellin' ya, I priced it today for the triflr I made. They're pretty comparable, even if you don't whip the cream yourself.


GravatarNow that's just repulsive. You know, just because you have an army of kids doesn't mean you can't eat like a civilized human being. Good God.


GravatarWe really need Bolton.

Seoul dodges the dragon but feels the heat
By Donald Kirk

SEOUL - The prospect of John Bolton, fiery US ambassador to the United Nations, careering through Seoul, making speeches denouncing North Korea, attempting to talk South Korean leaders into hard-nosed enforcement of the UN sanctions against the North, was more than South Korean officials could bear.

A day or two after getting word that Bolton would be coming to Seoul, his visit was abruptly canceled,

from atimes.com


Gravatarthe stay puf marshmallow child?


GravatarWhich really isn't more expensive.

Pennies add up at their level of consumption. That is a ton and a half of growin' boys.


GravatarSnow, I had a long chat with a very nice lady in your city today. She owns a gallery there. I told her I was going to stop by and meet her when I visit and you show me your fair city.


GravatarThe term "bipartisanship" absolutely requires the capacity for humility on the part of the Chief Executive.

Shrub's version of bipartisanship has always meant "give me everything I want, and I won't call you a traitor".


GravatarI am shocked *shocked* that no one has yet pointed these people to the readily available tofu and ramen sections of their local supermarket.


GravatarWatch it. We'll be talking about Mormon recipes next.

My mom ran a kitchen for a retreat house, and I've seen her recipes. You can feed 20 people with actual food. Or 40.


GravatarI think my pancreas just gave out.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


Gravataryou could do that receipe with real ingredients and it would be fine. Make a real bechamel and mushrooms instead of canned. Do a parmentier with real potates, etc. With the workforce they breed,they have time to prepare the stuff. But no, they have to do it the trailer trash way. Dead at 25 i say
Plum P


I actually made a green bean casserole from scratch when I was asked to bring one to a potluck dinner. I had never heard of it (being from an Italian family). I made my own cream of mushroom soup, fried my own onion rings and used fresh green beans.

No one ate it. I was mortified, but learned a bitter lesson.

Sigh.


GravatarMy family's Ice Cream Cake is much simpler than that diabetes-induced-coronary recipe: Angel food cake cut into three layers, with neopolitan ice cream between the layers, Hershey's syrup on top.

Yum!


GravatarNow you know they don't know what those fancy French words mean!

Odd thing about French cooking if you study it for awhile, is that a whole lot of it is a cook or housewife trying to be economical with food while making it taste good, while not wasting much.

Think about a quiche: leftover ingredients, egg (which any farm has lots of) pie crust (simple and inexpensive to make) and a little cream.


GravatarI am shocked *shocked* that no one has yet pointed these people to the readily available tofu and ramen sections of their local supermarket.

I am concretely sure that the vast majority of their diet is as white as they are: white bread, white rice, macaroni.


GravatarAll that and she can't even use real whipped cream.
watertiger


Gravatarmy Huskies still be winning


GravatarJP, you drive that scooter carefully out there in the dark now, you hear me, young fella?


GravatarActually, you could eat a lot of really decent rice-and-beans type stuff as main courses, but you would have to be willing to take that cultural leap.

Cue Love Tofu or Die in 3...2...1...


GravatarMy mom ran a kitchen for a retreat house, and I've seen her recipes. You can feed 20 people with actual food. Or 40. Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors

I have a recipe for a vat of golden tofu in brown sauce that I wheedled from the cook at a Govinda's restaurant. I think it feeds several dozen.


GravatarTwice. FUCK YOU HALOSCUM WITH A RUSTY CHAINSAW!!!!


GravatarPennies add up at their level of consumption. That is a ton and a half of future serial killers.

np:44


GravatarShrub's version of bipartisanship has always meant "give me everything I want, and I won't call you a traitor".

Can you send that to the pundits please?


GravatarSnow, I had a long chat with a very nice lady in your city today. She owns a gallery there. I told her I was going to stop by and meet her when I visit and you show me your fair city.

OK. We'll have rice and beans.


GravatarAll that and she can't even use real whipped cream.
watertiger


Too much saturated fat.


GravatarCue Love Tofu or Die in 3...2...1... NT'odd

Way aheadaya big guy.


Gravatari spend much less on food, do it from scratch, and we eat very very well

velveeta sux


GravatarI think my pancreas just gave out.

All that and she can't even use real whipped cream.
watertiger


It's too high in fat


GravatarI think my pancreas just gave out.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors



Where's the coconut? It can't do shit without the coconut.


GravatarMy mom ran a kitchen for a retreat house, and I've seen her recipes. You can feed 20 people with actual food. Or 40.

Confirming, yet again, that you and I must be sisters. My mom ran a soup kitchen for homeless people and she took a great deal of pride in serving them nutritious, fresh food, usually organic. She had every farmers' market and grocery store in the area on her speed dial.


GravatarActually, you could eat a lot of really decent rice-and-beans type stuff as main courses, but you would have to be willing to take that cultural leap. A lot of Americans don't feel as though they've had a meal unless there's meat involved.
res ipsa loquitur


My grandparents were poor Sicilian peasants who raised 8 children on homemade pasta and vegetable and fish. They always had plenty of food. The foraged in the mountains for wild mushrooms, greens, and the older boys hunted lepre (wild hare) and other creatures for meat--but meat was rare. They made their own cheese, pressed their own olive oil, made their own wine, and raised their own veggies.


GravatarMrs. Duggar should check into long grain and wild rice for her growing brood.


GravatarLAYERED ICE CREAM CAKE

reminds me of Krystal Casserole.

1 large platter
36 cheese Kystal burgers
12 large orders of fries

--Arrange burgers on platter (there should be enough for three layers)
--sprinke fries between each layer of burgers

serve with ketchup if desired.

A person I know brought this to a potluck dinner once.


GravatarMontréal vs Toronto bitches!

And a bunch of new entries in the Hockey Hall of Fame including Patrick Roy!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?f...d=9335& hubname=


GravatarAll that and she can't even use real whipped cream.
watertiger

Too much saturated fat.
flory, keeper of the list


Oooops....


GravatarShe had every farmers' market and grocery store in the area on her speed dial.

Mine was a canner; my dad was the organic gardener. Still is, actually. My freezer is full of blanched tomatoes and peppers, my basement full of potatoes and onions and garlic.


Gravatari'm so frugal i brew my own beer. and it is just as good as what you buy. maybe even better.


GravatarLiving on starch like that just makes you hungrier, even as you get fatter and more tired, so you eat more starch. And salt or sugar and fat to make it taste like something.

They're clearly not teaching their homeschooled kids anything about nutrition.


GravatarAll that and she can't even use real whipped cream.
watertiger


Reminds me of a conversation I had with Mlle yesterday. She was saying, we have to eat at my inlaws, but I want to come later to have my real dinner.

Her complaints were:

1) They use Stove Top Stuffing.
2) They don't make homemade bread.
3) They buy their desserts, as opposed to baking them.
4) They use...gah!...Cool Whip.


GravatarWhere's the coconut? It can't do shit without the coconut.

She sprinkles paprika on top, "for color."


Gravataris that a whole lot of it is a cook or housewife trying to be economical with food while making it taste good, while not wasting much.

Of course. They utilize all parts of an animal in their traditional cuisine. Their genius is, in fact, that they learned to make very pedestrian ingredients into masterpieces of taste.


Gravatar*ahem*


GravatarWay aheadaya big guy.

JeffCO is dead to me.


GravatarGiven the size of those families, I would've guessed that fresh vegetables would be cheaper than canned.

I suspect the real reason for those kinds of recipes is that they're easy enough for the kids to make while mom does other endless chores.


GravatarRemember when attaturk and I liveblogged that tv show where the Duggars built their own house?

You should SEE the freakin' kitchen.


GravatarI am shocked *shocked* that no one has yet pointed these people to the readily available tofu and ramen sections of their local supermarket.
JeffCO


Just last night I was pleased to discover that they had removed trans fats from my favorite brand of ramen noodles. So I bought some and ate them. It's my one occasional junk food indulgence, even though I know it's horrible stuff. Even without the trans fat, there's enough sodium to stun a horse.


GravatarIt would seem to me that someone with the foreign relations experience, stature and gravitas of John Kerry is what is called for to restore our esteem and influence at the UN, not insufferable Bolton, who IS the Walrus, just another dangerous ass from their seemingly limitless treasure trove of dangerous asses.


GravatarNo one ate it. I was mortified, but learned a bitter lesson.

I would have eaten it!

Shaw, Sister res and I just had some taleggio and grana padano with some tomato chutney and glasses of Nero D'Avola.


GravatarWatch it. We'll be talking about Mormon recipes next.

np:44
Arabella Trefoil

what are mormons known for eating?


GravatarMy freezer is full of blanched tomatoes and peppers, my basement full of potatoes and onions and garlic.

Don't forget the two huge pumpkins on your stoop!


GravatarShaw,

Proscuitto de parma, too.


GravatarNo one ate it. I was mortified, but learned a bitter lesson.
Sigh.
Shaw Kenawe

yes, but it was good, right?


Gravatar
I suspect the real reason for those kinds of recipes is that they're easy enough for the kids to make while mom does other endless chores.


There's a point on the website where she says she's folding laundry at 2am.

Fuck that. Everybody can have their own laundry basket.


GravatarOK, this thread is formally deigned the "Food Thread", and the Food Thread it shall be.

Heretofore and Forevermore.

Resolved.

With a bit of fresh cayenne pepper.


Gravatar1) They use Stove Top Stuffing.
2) They don't make homemade bread.
3) They buy their desserts, as opposed to baking them.
4) They use...gah!...Cool Whip.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

wait
by that logic
OMG! the SIL is a DUGGA!


Gravatarsicilian reds are a real good deal and very tasty.


GravatarJeffCO is dead to me. NT'odd (Mandatier)

Reap the wild wind.


GravatarShe was saying, we have to eat at my inlaws, but I want to come later to have my real dinner

How long until she is suggesting joint family gatherings at your place?


GravatarI am afraid to ask what a "Krystal Burger" is.

I'm even scared to Google that.


GravatarUSA: We need John Kerry in the Senate for now. When we have an unstoppable majority in the Senate, then we can spare him, but not until then.


GravatarShaw, Sister res and I just had some taleggio and grana padano with some tomato chutney and glasses of Nero D'Avola.
res ipsa loquitur


Sounds yummy.

Taleggio with figs is heaven! HEAVEN!

The Chinese have a saying "Food is Heaven."

Works for me.


GravatarDon't forget the two huge pumpkins on your stoop!

They went off to the compost yesterday. I have several more that I need to stew down, however.


GravatarUncle Smokes Pizza Delight

1 pound of anchovies
2 cans Cream of Olives soup
3 cabbages sliced and diced
2 cups of lard
1 package of oinion strings

Spread the lard evenly in a casserole dish and make a bed of cabbage. Mash in the anchovies with a meat tenderizing hammer, and then cover with soup and onion strings.

Broil at 800 degrees until the lard catches fire, setting off the smoke alarm and filling the house with a smell so hideous that you have to flee. Go out and order a pizza.

-------------

Okay. Now I'm hungry.

Y'all take care of your good selves!


Gravataranyone ever make mustard from scratch?


GravatarHer complaints were:

1) They use Stove Top Stuffing.
2) They don't make homemade bread.
3) They buy their desserts, as opposed to baking them.
4) They use...gah!...Cool Whip.


I guess Mlle and I can never marry...


GravatarA lot of Americans don't feel as though they've had a meal unless there's meat involved.

Damn right.


GravatarSnow--maybe another year. I'd have to cook for at least 40, but it's a scalar thing. Not a problem.


GravatarTheir genius is, in fact, that they learned to make very pedestrian ingredients into masterpieces of taste.
Tena


And always served it with a nice glass of wine.


OK, this thread is formally deigned the "Food Thread", and the Food Thread it shall be.

Erm...I don't think any of what we're talkin' about can actually be classified as "food".


GravatarWell, you guys just missed all the excitement... there was a car wreck at the corner about a half block from our house.

A small pick-up was pulling into traffic when a bigger pickup clipped it. I was outside and heard the smash - no brakes beforehand.

No one was hurt... but there's hamburger all over the highway!


GravatarShoot, it's easy enough to have the younger ones tear up a bunch of greens & have the oldest ones cut up veggies and grate cheese to make a big ol' salad.


GravatarMolly,

Remember when those canning lids would "pop" -- indicating a good seal? That sound made my mom so happy.

Shit. I'd better stop. I'll be in tears and craving her homemade applie butter or bread & butter pickles, and I'm never going to taste either of those this side of the River Styx.


GravatarWhat the Duggars need is a nutritionist. I nominate Live Free or Die. LFod will have them changing the casserole recipes to:

Chuck blocks of tofu into the pyrex. Add onions half a stalk of celery and some miso and a dash of tabasco sauce. Heat in the oven for 350 degrees for 30 minutes. Serve with brown rice.

gwb:drf


GravatarNTodd--oh, you could marry.

But you'd have to bring NTodd's Pa to my house for dinner.


GravatarNo one ate it. I was mortified, but learned a bitter lesson.
Sigh.
Shaw Kenawe

yes, but it was good, right?
Plum P


Yes it was good, but it was missing that overly salted and drowing in fat taste you get when you use processed foods to make it.


GravatarProscuitto de parma, too.

Proscuitto e melone. Mmm...


GravatarNo one was hurt... but there's hamburger all over the highway!

Call the Duggars!


GravatarIt would seem to me that someone with the foreign relations experience, stature and gravitas of John Kerry is what is called for to restore our esteem and influence at the UN, not insufferable Bolton, who IS the Walrus, just another dangerous ass from their seemingly limitless treasure trove of dangerous asses.
USA


he's too busy windsurfing, snowboarding, biking and playing hockey. his senator gig is just a hobby.


GravatarYou should SEE the freakin' kitchen.
watertiger |

you mean the laboratory?


GravatarWhen the Duggar family was a meager 15, they were living in a tiny, rented house with 1 or 2 bathrooms (I've repressed the whole episode).


Gravataranyone ever make mustard from scratch?
smelly cat


Yep. Dr. Barmpot sent me instructions....


GravatarHecate--you may not be able to taste your mom's apple butter, but don't overlook Harry and David's. Damn fine stuff.


GravatarHecate,
I experimented with butter pickles until I could make them taste like hers. But the spaghetti sauce is the one that makes me get misty--even the smell.


Gravatarreminds me of Krystal Casserole.

There used to be a Krystal in Dallas, back when I was in high school and stoned all the time. We'd drive over here and buy sacks full of them - I think they were 6 for a dollar.


GravatarHUSKIES 32
BISONS 15


Gravatarmaybe another year.

I wasn't suggesting that you do it. Let her do it. Pass it on to future generation. That is progress.

When I make something for family potlucks, I always say it is store bought. It is more fun that way.


GravatarUSA: We need John Kerry in the Senate for now. When we have an unstoppable majority in the Senate, then we can spare him, but not until then.
strawhat


I would like to see some kind of ambassadorship for Kerry.

I think that would be right up Teresa's alley.


GravatarWhen the Duggar family was a meager 15, they were living in a tiny, rented house

That was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.


GravatarIs Krystal basically White Castle?


GravatarWhenever I hear "cream of ANYTHING soup" in a recipe, I reach for my gun!

Well, I do use Cream of Mushroom when I make Macaroni and Cheese... and that Green Bean thing.

On the other hand, we've got a bunch of butternut squash and I've been making homemade butternut squash soup, so it evens out, I guess.

Also have a recipe for butternut risotto and a butternut pie I'm gonna make for Thanksgiving...


GravatarJust back from filching my neighbor's pomegranates, which, once again, are far, far superior to mine. If anybody needs any, let me know and I'll march boldly to the front door and request permission to pick the hell out of the tree. It's an old tree and very big - that may explain it. They sure are nice tho, ruby red arils and all. My oranges are better however.


GravatarBut the spaghetti sauce is the one that makes me get misty--even the smell.
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


German potato salad. Mine is just never quite teh same.


GravatarMolly - basically, yeah.


Gravatarper the mustard:

I used crushed brown seeds
a homebrewed brown ale
malt vinegar (i bought that)
6 cloves of crushed garlic

it is in a jar on the counter now....was wonderering about other spices I could add.........


GravatarI think that would be right up Teresa's alley.
Terry C

how about ambassador to Vietnam?


GravatarI'm invited to a dear friend's for Thanksgiving, but they can't cook for shit. I bought a small turkey and will make a second Thanksgiving dinner over the weekend. Debating white v. cornbread stuffing at the moment.


GravatarOn meat :

Growing up, since I had to make a happy plate, I ate the veggies first and savored the meat for last. I ate one thing at a time.

Everyone thought I was weird.

I also traded my dessert for more veggies.

Give ME veggies and meat !


GravatarThat was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.
Max Planck


birth canal
more like SUEZ canal


GravatarIs this the Food Thread or the John Kerry thread? I don't want to stray away from the assigned topic.

np:44


GravatarWe need John Kerry in the Senate for now.


Oh yes, most assuredly. I meant someone with that level. But I doubt if anyone of that caliber exists in the GOP. The pick doesn't HAVE to be GOP, do they? It would seem for all their noise about bipartisanship they would do well to nominate a great Dem like Kerry if one is available. If they do they should tap that person, dem or gop, fast, and ditch The Walrus pronto.


GravatarIs Krystal basically White Castle?

More than likely.


Gravatarstrawhat: JP, you drive that scooter carefully out there in the dark now, you hear me, young fella?

I will -- I use lightly-traveled roads, and am cautious. Hell, I made it to 43, so I probably can figure out how NOT to repeat my stupid spill of yesterday.
.


GravatarSo the dems will talk and posture but they won't actually do anything. The more things change...
spanky




Your concern is duly noted.


GravatarDo I want to know who the Duggar Family is?

I get the feeling I don't...


Gravatarsmelly cat -- I used a mixture of different colored seeds and a really, really good champagne vinegar. No other spices.


GravatarIs Krystal basically White Castle?
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


Just went to the web site (curiosity got the better of me).

Sure looks similar.

Hey, Mollymalone!


Gravatarits the food thread for happy people wanting to satiate all appetites, political and sensual........


GravatarIs Krystal basically White Castle?

Almost identical.


GravatarOh, I thought "Krystal Burger" was some sort of non-meat-type concoction.


GravatarWrong again. I think of Michelle Duggar's birth canal as the Donner Pass.


GravatarMy oranges are better however.
Dr. Barmpot

that you can pick up those fruits in your backyard is something so foreign to me! That would be so wonderful.


GravatarThat was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.
Max Planck


birth canal
more like SUEZ canal
olexicon, Sir Shrill-a-Lot


Lincoln Tunnel.


Gravatar...and that Green Bean thing.
...
dave™©


I once attended a family function in which three different people brought those damn green-bean-cream-of-mushroom-onion-string casseroles.

Bring nachos. No one complains about too many nachos.

[Now to attend to my uninspired chicken soup dinner.]


GravatarIt's the Food Thread now, I'm about to become one with my certarest or whatever the frak it is. Peaceout.


GravatarMy sisters and I were primary care givers for the younger children.

Not a good situation - nothing good about it.

np:44
Arabella Trefoil


Gravatar'I'm even scared to Google that."
--res ipsa loquitur

I've heard Kystals are like White Castle burgers.
They're square thin patties with some sauteed onions on a square bun--with cheese or without.

Actually, 40-50 years ago they were pretty good fast food. Not so much anymore.


GravatarI need to learn how to make a gingersnaps crust for cheesecake. I think the problem is crushing the gingersnaps but I'm not sure.


GravatarI loves teh food threads.

Today's baking adventure will be whole wheat-oat bran bread which, despite its name, that hints at a horrible healthiness, it's delicious and moist.


GravatarWhen I worked at the Big Record Store That's Going Bankrupt, everyone wanted to work Thanksgiving (and Christmas) because it paid double time. Additionally, the management always brought in a big spread of food and drink, highlighted by a turkey stuffed with drugs and lots and lots of beer.

Ah, memories...


GravatarWhen the Duggar family was a meager 15, they were living in a tiny, rented house with 1 or 2 bathrooms (I've repressed the whole episode).

We used to live in middle of road...


GravatarI bought a small turkey and will make a second Thanksgiving dinner over the weekend.

Heh, we did that last year. For some reason, Mother Thersites likes turkey basically uncooked. It was gross. So we came home Saturday and I made another Sunday. Bonus: turkeys were on sale!


Gravatardid anybody else here desparately need chocolate after lil'boot's last press conference? rummy going away, and i had to have chocolate


GravatarMy oranges are better however.
Dr. Barmpot


Your oranges are about the best I've ever tasted.


GravatarWhen I was a kid, they'd have the Kraft Music Hall on.

The Kraft commercials they had on had recipes for stuff I wouldn't feed a dog.

My mom used to call them gag-worthy.


GravatarIf Halo is eating your post, right click and copy it before posting. That way you will not lose your words of wisdom and you can repost it if you please.


GravatarSnow--a heavy marble rolling pin or a blender on the 'crush' setting does wonders.


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

Still at Coco... didja see the flirty gal video I put up? And the extra CurlyQ?

Molly -- I need to know where to send you a strip of bacon and some birth control pills. E-me.
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GravatarThat was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.
Max Planck

imagine the cellulite!


GravatarI think of Michelle Duggar's birth canal as the Donner Pass.

I'd, uh, rather not think of her birth canal and eating human flesh...


GravatarHey, Mollymalone!

Hey, Gummo!


GravatarNYT: Incoming Democrats Put Populism Before Ideology

um... so populism isn't an ideology?


GravatarWhat is Michelle Duggar telling her adolescent daughters?

"OK, you will have misgivings after your first 17 children. This is natural."


GravatarI get a free turkey.

If you accumulate enough points at ShopRite, you get a free turkey or a free ham.


GravatarAnd Dr. Shouty-Crackers -- PLEASE e-me your USPS info, ASAP. I want to send you a 50-Cent CD. Not really, no... but, what I want to send will cost $0.50.
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Gravatarit looks like every sperms a winner at the duggans


GravatarI can just barely boil water.

I shop. I wash dishes. I clean.

Mrs. Gummo cooks.

Thank the goddess.


GravatarYour oranges are about the best I've ever tasted.
flory, keeper of the list


This year even better I think - much bigger than last, 'cause I had the trees cut and pruned so severely. They're already nearly about the size of softballs.


GravatarSnow--a heavy marble rolling pin or a blender on the 'crush' setting does wonders.

I suspected that damn little wooden pin wasn't enough. I am just not sure that is my only problem. I'll try the blender.


GravatarWe used to live in middle of road...

I had to get up in the middle of the night, half hour before I went to bed and worked 26 hours a day in the mines.


GravatarThat was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.
Max Planck


You're all wrong. It's a waterslide. Well, smegmaslide.

Okay, I just grossed myself out, and may have brought the food thread to a screeching halt.


GravatarOn meat again :

I love Dick !!!

Tenn 0
Ark 7


GravatarThat was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.
Max Planck

imagine the cellulite!
Plum P


The fact that the song "Afternoon Delight" just popped into my head shows I'm a sad, sick man.

Or I need to eat something....


GravatarWhat is Michelle Duggar telling her adolescent daughters?

"OK, you will have misgivings after your first 17 children. This is natural."
Max Planck


You don't actually think they talk about ****sex*** and procreation to the virginal little pink girlies in the Duggar household, do you?


GravatarHail the new Democratic Congress. Our fondest liberal dreams, are now realized:
• Enjoy Christmas, Freepers. We're cancelling it next year.
• We're gonna recognize Cuba, then subsidize their sandwiches.
• Free abor--no, scratch that. Forced free abortions. Abortions for everyone, even your pets.
• Over-the-counter Soros Brand Stem Cell Hair Rinse at a Rite-Aid near you.
• And, we're bringing back the draft for the sole purpose of letting hippies dodge it so we can give them amnesty again.


GravatarIs it White Castle? Yes, I said, way upthread, right after Molly asked.



You guys all owe me cokes.


GravatarI used to milk the cow, separate the cream, make the butter, help make the cottage cheese, grind the wheat, pick bugs off the veggies, pick the veggies, clean them, help can them, feed the chickens & pigs, help dress (no not that) them, cut them up, smoke (no not that) them, put up hay. I have no idea why I miss those days.

If I ever get a job out here, I plan to start doing a lot of that again.


Gravatar PLEASE e-me your USPS info, ASAP. I want to send you a 50-Cent CD. Not really, no... but, what I want to send will cost $0.50.

I'm sorry, darling, but I am evanescent. I am everywhere, I am Mariah. I have no location. Thank you for the thought tho. Want some pomegranates?


GravatarRe food ...

I have a dough rising as I type. I am trying that "No-knead bread" recipe that was in the NYT this week. You barely mix the dough and then leave it to rise for 18 hours. You fold it over twice, then let it rise 2 more hours. Then bake.

We'll see.


GravatarOh, I thought "Krystal Burger" was some sort of non-meat-type concoction.

You're thinking Krusty-Burger.


GravatarSnow--a heavy marble rolling pin or a blender on the 'crush' setting does wonders.
Sallyh

put the cookies in a ziplock bag. hen use hammer. Works very well


Gravatarum... so populism isn't an ideology?

It's more of a dessert topping.


GravatarThat was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.

It doubles as the arboretum.


GravatarTena, I feel like we're the same person. Krytals at 2am, stoned as could be, were some of my favorite food back in my college days.


GravatarOh boy, a recipe thread.


GravatarYou're all wrong. It's a waterslide. Well, smegmaslide.



Eew.


GravatarDammit Pigboy! You just gave away our Double-Secret Republican Filter


GravatarSo the dems will talk and posture but they won't actually do anything. The more things change...
spanky


pelosi will stop giving away the store, unlike what the republicans have been doing.


GravatarThe fact that the song "Afternoon Delight" just popped into my head shows I'm a sad, sick man.

who among us DOESN'T love Uncle Smokes?!


GravatarThe Duggars' oldest daughter has already joined the family business. She wants to be a midwife. She and her sibs have all attended Mommy's birthing session.

Maybe they eat the placenta cooked in a casserole made with two cans of soup, Velvetta and frozen veggies.

gwb:drf


GravatarIf you freeze the gingersnaps first, they might crush better.


GravatarDr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers: I'm sorry, darling, but I am evanescent. I am everywhere, I am Mariah. I have no location. Thank you for the thought tho. Want some pomegranates?

If you make me do a low-level grep of this old Toshi hard drive, I will send your ass a guitar, whether you or Arthur want it, or not.
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GravatarOK, I have Bonus Critter Blogging up (inspired by one of Dr. Shouty-Crackers' comments last evening), and if you scroll down one, Ruth has provided a link to a wonderful Sylvia Plath poem.


GravatarI'm sorry, darling, but I am evanescent. I am everywhere, I am Mariah. I have no location. Thank you for the thought tho. Want some pomegranates?


This is sheer Perelman.


GravatarWanker of the Day?

ATRIOS...


He forgot it was Veterans Day


Gravatarhey, from spanky's cite, pelosi got roughed up in china:

Pelosi, set to become speaker of the House, in 1991 went to Beijing's Tiananmen Square to honor victims of the massacre of democracy activists there two years earlier. She was surrounded by Chinese police who roughed up her entourage in an incident China denounced as a "premeditated farce."


GravatarSnow,

Just wash your hands and crush the gingersnaps with them.


GravatarIt doubles as the arboretum.
watertiger


The foliage is ... um.... breathtaking.


GravatarWhat do you do with the pomegranates, Dr. B? I've always been kind of nonplussed by them as an eating fruit.


GravatarMaybe they eat the placenta cooked in a casserole made with two cans of soup, Velvetta and frozen veggies.

They need protein somewhaere.


GravatarYou don't actually think they talk about ****sex*** and procreation to the virginal little pink girlies in the Duggar household, do you?
flory, keeper of the list


"God sends you babies."


Gravatarres, did you get the Squash-full of recipe e-mail I forwarded to you from the SF Chronicle? You are the Squash Queen, ain'tcha?


GravatarWant some pomegranates?

Cut up pink grapefruit into chunks, skin removed, over a bowl. Mix Campari and some sugar w/ the juice, toss over grapefruit pieces. Sprinkle pomegranate seeds on top.

Yum.


GravatarMmmmmmm...nachos.


Gravatarum... so populism isn't an ideology?

It's more of a dessert topping.
NT'odd (Mandatier)


...and, of course, a floor wax.


GravatarIt doubles as the arboretum.

Don't be too hard on the woman - it's also where the Beatles got their start!


GravatarHUSKIES WIN
HUSKIES WIN!

Go to Ottawa next


GravatarIt's been 3 whole days....... and what have the Democrats done! Have you had enough?

http://movies.crooksandliars.com...ion- Opening.wmv


GravatarDr. Barmpot,

Yes, I did. I am going to the greenmarket tomorrow AM to buy some squash, too. Thanks.


GravatarHe forgot it was Veterans Day

You concern has been noted.


GravatarHecate, drop me a note about the pomegranates - we're talking about a 40' tree full of ruby red pomegranatey goodness....


GravatarDon't be too hard on the woman - it's also where the Beatles got their start!
JeffCO


The acoustics are incredible.


GravatarWanker of the Day?

ATRIOS...


He forgot it was Veterans Day
respektor dreck


Your concern was noted when you posted that this morning.


GravatarAnd, we're bringing back the draft for the sole purpose of letting hippies dodge it so we can give them amnesty again.
Otto Schmidlap


a draft would cause wingers to flee to canada.


GravatarHow does Mr. Duggar get any traction when his dick enters the Big Dig?

gwb:drf


GravatarThat was before Michelle Duggar's birth canal really started getting into the zone.
Max Planck


"A krusty Burger
that doesn't sound very appetizing"
_BUSH1 in "twoi bad neighbors"


GravatarOh, and in case you were unsure, those Purity Balls are federally funded.
watertiger


If Halliburton supplies chastity belts as dependable as the armor going to our troops in Iraq, daddies will have no trouble breaching them with their purity balls.


GravatarHe forgot it was Veterans Day


Reminds me --

we took our kitty to the veteran today.

Whatever weirdness had her shunning food and water for a day and a half seems to have passed like the wind. Vet couldn't find anything wrong!

She lives to annoy another day!


GravatarGo to Ottawa next
olexicon,

watch the hockey now. Montréal v Toronto


GravatarOh, and in case you were unsure, those Purity Balls are federally funded.

How can that be?


GravatarWanker of the Day?

ATRIOS...


He forgot it was Veterans Day
respektor dreck


Your concern was noted when you posted that this morning.
Terry C, An American Again!




Was just wondering if he'd had a change of heart for the Veterans.

Guess not.

Carry on.


GravatarHow does Mr. Duggar get any traction when his dick enters the Big Dig?

Where did I see this described as "tossing a hot dog up a hallway"?


Gravatarfuck, TO 1-0 MTL


GravatarPut ginger snaps, crackers, etc. in a zip lock bag, seal, and use a rolling pin to crush. No crumbs on the counter. Works wonderfully.


Gravatara draft would cause wingers to flee to canada.
jello

yes! more husband material for moi!


GravatarHow does Mr. Duggar get any traction when his dick enters the Big Dig?

Damn, I thought I was the only one thinking that very thing.


GravatarHe forgot it was Veterans Day

And you care because you are a Veteran and are offended? Not.


GravatarIt's more of a dessert topping.
NT'odd (Mandatier)

...and, of course, a floor wax.
flory, keeper of the list


I was telling he missus about the frequent allusions to the floor wax/dessert topping, and when she saw the NYT headline she insisted I come here to tell y'all.


GravatarThe acoustics are incredible.

Oh to have heard them tear through Komm, Gib Mir Deine Plazenta....


GravatarOkay, lovebugs. Gotta put some food on my family.

*mwah!*


GravatarWhere did I see this described as "tossing a hot dog up a hallway"?
Molly *Clarabelle* Ivors


stewie griffin talking to a hooker he meets at quagmire's house


GravatarKrystal Burger vs. White Castle.

I’ve had both. Krystal Burgers, while similar, always seemed a bit on the dry side to me, like the meat was still just a short step way from its flash freezing after having hit the griddle. Not much in the way of flavor.

Now White Castles . . . “Belly Bombers” have the edge in everything, due to a secret process that allows years of grease to accumulate and cook into even new fry griddles. Even brand new Castles produce Sliders that have that unique taste. Though, truth be known, the White Castle is always better coming from a store that’s been around since the 1950’s, or even earlier. Nothing finer than putting down a 12 pack of beer then heading off to the Castle in Whiting, IN, and getting down a quick 10 pack (with a large onion ring and a chocolate shake on the side) to soak up the alcohol.

Ah, the good old days.


GravatarShe lives to annoy another day!
Gummo

the grey one? Must have been the stress of this elections week


GravatarAgainst my better judgment, I went to the local Rememberance Day ceremony today. And once again, just like last year, I left in disgust when the started singing "Onward Christian Soldiers."

If the vets want some loving, they're gonna have to do better than that.


Gravatar1 large platter
36 cheese Kystal burgers
12 large orders of fries


I love Sliders, and i miss 'em. can only get the froze kind down here. But I'd make it with onion rings...


GravatarHow does Mr. Duggar get any traction when his dick enters the Big Dig?

I'm thinking that he gets locked and loaded and when the time's right...


GravatarHe forgot it was Veterans Day

I'm sure Bush would have forgotten as well if he didn't have people reminding him about this stuff.


Gravatar “Belly Bombers” have the edge in everything, due to a secret process that allows years of grease to accumulate and cook into even new fry griddles.

And you people wonder why I don't eat.


GravatarI love seeing "Hecate" and "pomegranites" in one season.
Hecate, like the Goddes Ceres, brings us out of Hades from time to time.

gwb:drf


Gravatarthe grey one? Must have been the stress of this elections week
Plum P


No, we have a 15-year-old black cat named Jezebel with kidney problems. She was acting spookily like her sister acted just before the sister's kidneys shut down for good and had to be put to sleep.

But last night she started scarfing food like a kitten and her vet could find nothing wrong!

Another reason to celebrate this fine autumn eve!


GravatarD R A P E S


GravatarOh to have heard them tear through Komm, Gib Mir Deine Plazenta....

"Placenta Valley Sunday"


GravatarHow does Mr. Duggar get any traction when his dick enters the Big Dig?

I'm thinking that he gets locked and loaded and when the time's right...
watertiger


You guys are sick.



And I love you all!



Gravatar"Placenta Valley Sunday" watertiger

Take me, I'm yours!


However, I suspect you'll never get them to believe there were Monkees in their ancestry.


GravatarWhooooooo has new sheets on their bed?


GravatarI'm thinking that he gets locked and loaded and when the time's right...
watertiger


I don't know the Duggars from Adam, but as a man I have to agree that his flintlock is primed before firing.


GravatarOh, hell: This - Creole Roasted Garlic Turkey - is what I'm making for Turkey Day.


GravatarOh, and in case you were unsure, those Purity Balls are federally funded.

How can that be?
Snow, Ordinary Thinker


Well, shouldn’t part of a good Christist home schooling be daddy teaching his little girl about sex? The gummint wants to offer incestives – oops, I mean incentives – for such righteous endeavors.


GravatarMr. Duggar goes spelunking up the Holland Tunnel, finds the cervix and then shoots his load dead center. Then he climbs out.

When the porn magazine come out with the afterbirth, it's an awkward moment.

gwb:drf


GravatarMolly *Clarabelle* Ivors: Where did I see this described as "tossing a hot dog up a hallway"?

Stewie, Family Guy. Hi-larious!
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GravatarMrs. Duggar's exercise video is called "Kegles for Christ."

gwb:drf


GravatarPlacenta Valley Sunday is now a part of my brain's nerve endings.

Thank you.


GravatarInstead of "bean is", I keep hearing them sing "each penis roasted to perfection".
watertiger | Homepage | 11.11.06 - 4:36 pm | #

I myself like them dark roasted but that's just me.


GravatarMy advice to the new congress: don't give Bush a fucking inch. No matter what, the Bush base is going to spend every minute of the next two years in full WATB mode.


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